🔴Charlie Kirk Case: Getting Ready For The Tyler Robinson Trial (LIVE w/Friends)

Um, all right. We should be live. Welcome everyone. Look at this panel. Look at this panel. What's up? Where the dangsters at?

All right guys, we got we got me. We got Jesse. We got Aaron. Mr. LetGo. We got Danks. We got Matt Trigger. And what we are going to do in this episode is just cover the entire Charlie Kirk I don't know what do we want to call it? Case debacle. It's like saga.

Yeah, saga.

Yeah, it's a saga. Yeah, that's what it is. It's a saga.

And we're going to start at the beginning, guys. And basically, from the time Tyler Robinson gets on the campus, we're going to walk through it. And we're also going to debunk all the things that turned out to be lies that we know are lies or misrepresentations, things like the uh the rifle that we were shown, which didn't happen to be the rifle, all that type of stuff. So, should be a fun one. And this is going to get us ready for the trial Monday.

You know what would be an incredible use of AI if someone really smart with AI was able to do this is if we took like what the output from this stream is and someone asked AI to create like a visual representation of like this clue led here which led here and like like as an example the rifle where it's like oh they showed this picture of the rifle which is critical to the story that the parents are the ones who recognized him but it turns out that that rifle was not the real rifle which completely breaks that from being possibly true.

Yep.

So we're gonna we're going to cover all that type of stuff in the in the trial. Do we want to I know I know Danks, you and Matt are like super spun up on the actual trial itself, right? And like where that's at evidence-wise, things like that. Is there anything we've seen in the trial that is I don't I guess they haven't shown the evidence that that leads us to believe uh that they have something different than what we have been presented so far. Do we know anything like that yet?

The biggest thing that I know of is going to be the what was it uh 300 terabytes of video from campus.

That should be big.

That's going to be huge.

Right? Yeah. Yeah, I mean there's there's hund 200 terabytes just of personal files, all the additional information that they haven't all the metadata, all the things that haven't really been doving into, you know, we who knows what would be uncovered from that.

The thing is like when it comes to because that that footage is going to be very very valuable for everybody. The thing to consider though is that I don't think anyone is even disputing that Tyler Robinson is on that roof. And so I think a lot of that footage is going to support the official story even though the official story is not true if that makes sense. You know what I mean? I mean I'm just speculating but

Do you understand what I'm saying?

100%.

Do you guys think that they have footage of him actually being up on the roof?

Well, they should there's a I know that there's a camera angle that could literally see where he took the shot from. Like there in the prone it should be able to see. I mean, uh, uh, Steven Gardner and, uh, and Gary actually went to UVU and they show they went up to where he supposedly took the shot from and they angle the camera and they point to that that one camera where we see the footage of him running off the roof.

Yeah.

There's another camera that can directly line of sight to the place where he supposedly takes the shot from. So, I said from the beginning, if they don't show us that footage, that's going to be a big big problem for me cuz I know you have that footage.

That footage though, would that say he did this to Charlie Kirk? I would still say no cuz I would look at that as a decoy.

You won't be able to identify it being Tyler. Like even if you see him take the shot, you're not going to be able to know for sure it's Tyler. And if you and even if you could ID Tyler, maybe then you might not be able to see the shot. the only way. And then even if you do see him take the shot, you're like, they could have adjusted it with AI. It's all like video. It's It's tough, man.

So, to Jesse's point, and and this will be early in what we talk about is we're going to see I mean, we already have this. This is [ __ ] zoomed in, right? Like now we can't like see cuz he's got sunglasses. But to Jesse's point, he's not going to look different than this in the camera footage. This is [ __ ] from 4T away and we still can't tell who this is. So, looks so much more like Lance in if you look at Lance's Tik Toks, dude. Like the one where he's out there and he's doing like the weird dance. That is the only person that that picture on the left resembles to me.

That does not look like Tyler Robinson at all.

I don't think so either. But but we'll we'll get to that as as we do it, guys. Uh also for chat, excuse me, if you guys if you if there's things we miss, if there's questions you have, just throw them in the chat. Super chat them if you want them. I'll try to keep up with the super chats as we go the best I can that way. I know chat like there's so much to this like it's very easy to to forget things, right? Like oh, the the fact that the you know the rifle didn't get found by the dogs and and also the shell casings. Like these are all This is what I want to ask you guys before we get going. What are some things in the evidence hearing that that you think we need to see to actually if the official narrative, the FBI narrative is to be true? What are some some some types of evidence you guys need to see for that to move you at all? I know for me, right out the gate, it's going to be the rifle. It's going to be the rounds. Show me these engraved rounds. Like, explain to me why he had he threw his engraved rounds on the ground instead of just keeping him in his pocket when he left and left him with a rifle. Like, all of these things I think need to be explained. What do you guys have for like evidence that you think they've got to put forward to give us more than what we got?

More information on the autopsy. like what actually happened inside of Charlie Kirk's body.

Yes.

I need to know that because regardless of who did what, the thought process that a 30 six kilome would exonerate, you know, one way or the other.

That's a great.

Yeah. Yep.

They have it if the if the if the bullet didn't kill him, you know.

Thanks, you're thanks, you're muted, so you know.

Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. So, especially speaking with the medical staff on site, all of the people, every sing the receptionist, I mean, anybody that could have been there to witness the experience of him being in the hospital, being brought in, whatever the case may be, anybody involved should be uh would definitely help.

This is a huge one.

This is a huge one. We know they have highdeaf 4K footage of what the security team was doing when they were treating Charlie Kirk. We have not seen.

And they were very panicked about whether or not Candace recorded it when they showed it to her through the through the computer.

Yes.

And why the angle of Charlie was so different in this UVU uh situation versus every last one. It's like when he was at UVU, every single thing was different. The mic was different. The the angle from behind him was different. Why was it different?

Mhm. Yep. That's.

It's really and and what I think is going to be fascinating to look at as people who are as up to up to date on all of the facts of the case as people who are as up to date on all of the facts of the case is to watch how the defense handles witnesses and handles the entire defense. Because as much as people want to be like, "Oh, this is all conspiracy theory nonsense." No, it's not. If your job is to create reasonable doubt, every single intelligent argument that a person has made on the internet can be used to present a coherent defense that makes people doubt whether Tyler did it or not. Anything like if they go, "Oh, so bring on the security guys." And you're like, "So, what were you guys doing during this? Oh, we were plugging the wound. We were doing whatever." And you show pictures. How come there's no blood on your hands? How come there's no blood on your on your any any discrepancy at all can be used to create reasonable doubt against Tyler? Which means if they are not doing that, they're either incompetent or something more nefarious. You know what I mean?

Well, what a lot of people need to realize is like this preliminary hearing, it actually could stop here, you know? But the thing is,

Right, Danks, why don't you explain that? I don't think a lot of people don't understand what this preliminary here means evidence-wise for what the prosecution basically has to prove to the judge.

All they have to prove is that there's uh some world that Tyler Robinson was involved in the assassination and and pretty much prove that. That's about it. There's no uh major requirement. The bar is actually very low uh to get into trial. And now for me,

It's a trial to have to justify having a trial.

Right?

Yeah. Exactly. So it it could literally stop here if they if they can't prove for however they're going to be using a lot of hearsay from Lance Twigs this video recording that then everything that's damning against Tyler is coming from Lance Twigs I think. So besides whatever ballistics you know but you're talking about confession alleged confessions the Discord messages the text messages all kinds of stuff and then the guy Lance whatever the furry is not even going to have to show up at all. I think that the bar should be risen for the uh you know should be higher for this situation to even have a man on trial for his life should have to face the accuser that is responsible for all of that information that's putting him there.

I literally rubber stamp like.

For sure Lance should have to be there for sure.

Yeah, but Erica Kirk and Charlie's parents are going to be there apparently.

That's what I heard. Another thing is if Lance Twigs, okay, so say they use Lance's hearsay testimony, not under oath, etc., uh, just this recording, and they admit it into court, uh, into the trial, it's a part of getting them to trial and the judge says, "We're going to trial. This is part of the reason why." Then they can use that against Tyler or in the trial, even if Lance disappears, because this is part of getting them to trial. So this is a major major problem. It can be disputed how I I understand it, but you never know if things can, you know, imagine if if he just disappears, Lance Twig disappears. The thing that got everyone to this position is his hearsay, his screenshots, his whatever.

It's crazy when you start to think.

He's gone and then what you know, so that's.

So much so much of the evidence.

One guy, the whole pumpkin mixy saying no audio. A lot of people are saying no audio.

No audio.

No audio for all of us or for some of us.

Can you specific in chat?

Refresh your stream, guys. If you got an audio problem because Yeah, cuz pretty much.

I don't think we got any audios issues.

Just refresh your stream. That that typically.

Or if you're Yeah. If you're if you're having bad audio like Okay, never mind. It sounds.

Yeah, we're good. We're good. It's just refresh, guys. Sometimes if you whenever you have problems on YouTube on a live stream, refresh first. Usually it'll fix it. Yeah, you you guys make really good points there. So much of the real evidence is and especially the admitting to the crime is via Lance Twigs because we what we heard was, you know, the family turned him in and all those things. We'll we'll get to that, right? Why don't we uh why don't we kick this off and why don't we start start from the beginning um which is basically Tyler Robinson getting to campus and we've heard all of these things. I tried to find the the clip from Governor Cox where he's he explains that Tyler Robinson shows up and I believe I don't know how much we know. We're trying to still put these things in order.

Or do we want to look at the do we want to look at the uh charging documents first real quick.

Just to.

Yeah, that's probably because the charging documents are different than what people have taken to be the the official narrative. Like there I mean it's it's it's close, but there are certain things that are that are in there where you're like, wait, like just little details that seem like a big deal that people talk about all the time are not in the charging documents and and there are other things that are. You know what I mean?

I'll pull them up real quick. There's there's just some things to Oh, I'll keep us here. Just some things to think about. So, I'm not worried too much about the charges. We've seen the charges, bunch of murder charges, tampering with evidence, things like that. But really, here is the actual shooting. And I think this is this is kind of interesting. They detail what happened, right? Where everybody is at. But this is where I think it starts to get interesting is down here with the UVU surveillance investigation, right? Because it says at the moment, this is basically from the time of the shot. The shot rings off. At the moment of the shot, a UVU police officer was watching the crowd from an elevated vantage point. As soon as he heard the shot, he began to scam the area for threats, believing the shot came from a rifle because of its sound. That's not what I've heard from everybody else in the crowd, but whatever. He looked for potential sniper positions. He noted a roof area. I mean, to me, this is bizarre. Like, this police officer immediately locates the shooter the second the shot rings off and rushes there to look for evidence.

And if he's got a if he's got line of sight to that roof, how is he not seeing him in advance if he's law enforcement.

Right? It's.

Or seeing him run off. You know what I mean?

It's very very bizarre. But this is important. This is important here because the suspected shooting position adjacent to the open. It talks about where it is and it says the UVU officer climbed over the railing down onto the roof. When he walked to the suspected shooting position, confirmed a clear shooting corridor to the position of Charlie Kirk's seat. He also noticed markings in the gravel rooftop consistent with a sniper having laid on the roof. I'm not as someone who's done a lot of this, I have no idea what that would actually mean. And somebody laying on the roof, I guess.

Yeah. Can you tell someone's a sniper by the way they lay down?

No, absolutely not. Uh, impressions in the gravel.

They act like it's going to be like an outline like chalk on your body.

Right. That's why it's the whole charging document is a little sloppy. Impressions in the gravel potentially left by elbows and knees and feet and person in a prone shooting position or laying down watching what's going on. Then it says, "Police reviewed for surveillance footage from the camera covering covering the roof and discovered that recorded an individual dressed in dark clothing cross the railing from the public walkway and drop onto the roof at approximately 12:15. Although the individual moved out of the camera's view,

This tells me right here for a short time, the camera again captured the individual running across the roof, then low crawling the area and the UVU area or the UVU officer recognized where this suspected sniper dropped into a prone position. I'm assuming they're saying they don't actually have camera footage of him taking the shot.

That's what that sounds like.

The way I'm reading this.

Okay, but how don't they? I know it's.

But I mean again it says here although the individual moved out of the camera's view for a short time and then captures him running across the roof. Well when we saw him running across the roof that's after the shot. We've all seen that. So I think they're saying in these charging documents that they don't have video footage of Tyler Robinson taking the shot.

And that is impossible that that roof does not have a single video feed that covers it. That's I mean that's how like how can that be possible? then impossible, but it seems it has to be impossible.

This is super important because this is super debunked as [ __ ] and that's the fact that he was walking around with a [ __ ] 30 six in his skinny jeans, right? But they have it here.

Discovery led to the intensive review of the UVU surveillance uh recordings to attempt and track and identify the suspect, yada yada yada. Throughout the surveillance, the suspect kept his head down and really raises his head enough to get a clear image of his face. I mean, they're saying that we're not going to get anything better than what we have here, right? Because they had all the evidence when they wrote the charging documents or at least the camera footage. As he proceeds across the campus, he is seen walking with an unusual gate. Now, is this before or after the shooting? This has got to be before, right?

Now, I have that footage.

Well, this would be before because 11:15 is before the shooting here at 12:15, right?

Yeah.

But anyway, we'll get to it. It says the suspect walks with a very with very little bending in his right leg. This is the TMZ footage. They are citing the TMZ footage outside of what's that guy's house? The [ __ ]

Joe Lyman's.

Joe Lyman's house, right? Cousin's house or something like that.

I'll pull that up here in a second. But I've also disproved that he has a 306 in his pants from that footage already.

Consistent with the.

Yeah, consistent. Let me finish this real quick. Uh consistent with a rifle being hidden in his pants. This is in the charging documents, the official charging documents. The unusual gate continues until the suspect is seen crossing the railing off the open walkway under the roof where he leaves the camera's view. Now, let me show you guys this, I think, because I've shown this a hundred times. This Let's see. Can I Can I do it like this? Yeah. Here we go, guys. This is Tyler Robinson one heading to the roof here, right? This is like the entrance to the building that gets him up to the stairwell. He's got a phone in his pocket here.

There's no 3006. I've shown this. I've put my own 44 inch 30 30 in my jeans and it is the most obnoxious [ __ ] you will ever see in your life and I am 6 in taller than Tyler Robinson and it sticks up out of my jeans. You know what I mean? And you can see here, so what I like about this, there's also one more. It shows a full bend in his left leg. And then as he comes around the corner here, there's another there's another picture where he takes a step up and his full right leg is bent.

So a lot of people tried to say, well, actually he had it up his back.

No.

We have the back frame here.

So he doesn't have a 30 odd six on him. This whoever we all agree on that whoever this person is in this footage.

He does not have a 30 odd six.

Like a lot of guns. I think that the the reason why we're not going to get to the point where we get enough information on this is because this whole city and to anybody that lives in that city, I don't want to say anything bad about them, but this whole city seems to be a whole Mormon city, right? And it's, you know, like I said, I don't want to say anything bad about anybody's religion, but they are on code with whoever is above everybody else, right? And whether it's the person that's doing the paperwork, whether it's the person that actually like not man the camera, but in is in charge of, you know, how the camera's paying. I think every single person in that city is so on code all they have to do is make a call because that user is somebody's cousin, somebody's wife, somebody's friend and they can just say, "Hey,

Get rid of that camera angle and just just throw it out and no matter who it is in that city, they're going to stay on cold with everybody else." And I.

It's like ganged up. It's all ganged up.

I want to say, but I don't want to offend anybody that lives there. I lived there for a year and I worked at a company about a hundred 100 employee company and I was the only person there that was not Mormon. And so I like so no like I have a lot of insight into that community and like they're dude first of all they're amazing people. Like we never had we've had nothing but positive things to say about the you know, the see I mean that's a totally different conversation but but to your point.

That is accurate that like that that's a group that is so tight that is, you know, and I mean that as a as like an uh as a good thing to where they are so interconnected though that if you have people who are high up in the church or high up in the community, high up in whatever.

They are going to be able to call on people to do things that they would like to do. And they know no one's going to break code and no one's going to talk. Like if they're not supposed to, they're not going to.

This is this is Provo, Utah, right? And I learned, if you guys don't know who Mike Glover is, Mike Glover, fellow Green Beret, he had a very high-profile uh case on him a few years ago, he lives or last year, year and a half ago, he lives in Provo, Utah. And the amount of corruption. The Provo, Utah Police Department and [ __ ] up stuff they did that were exposed for that they got sued for after is wild. So it's not, again, Utah is known as being an incredibly corrupt state through the justice system. That's nothing new. Not to say that that's what's happening here necessarily, but to your guys's point, that is well known. Now, I want to take a look at this is what the charging documents are talking about is this footage right here, which is again, you can see the TMZ watermark there.

I'm blown away that the and again, this is Phil Lyman's camera. He's he's his own camera. aunt's camera apparently according according to what I learned his entire well a huge like nine different people in.

I think he owns he owns the property though they own that whole neighborhood.

That whole block. I mean, the whole block.

They own a lot of property in different areas. I did a records check on their. Yeah, they own a lot of property.

So this is this is kind of bizarre and and again, this was immediately they footage but let's let's look and see if Tyler Robinson. He it's hard for me to believe because I thought he had on, according to Governor Cox, he changed into the black clothes on the roof. Didn't he have on red clothes before and after?

I love that they just that they they determined that that was the same person within 24 hours and then just like never entertained that.

I think this is I think this is I think this has always been after words. Now, I know I don't know about how the timing works out, but I mean it. Anyway, let's actually look and see if he has a 30 odd six in his pants. He is limping, right? But we also watched him jump off a 12ft hole tall building.

[ __ ] Daddy's got a 306 in his pants right now.

He is limping, but when you'll see when this zooms in, I put this in my leg. It's still his leg is still bending way too much. The right leg, see the bend in the leg? that there's no way his leg.

Oh, yeah. No way. It would go down. It'd be like a like a what do you call it? A stint or a.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And he just because of him falling jumping off of the.

Right. I did that on camera. It is impossible to with a 30 six in your pants. For one, it's obnoxious how much it sticks out of your jeans.

I couldn't bend my my leg at all. Zero. None. It's like having a metal rod through your leg. You can't bend your knee like more than an inch. He's bending his knee six to seven inches as he's walking.

So that's there's no 30 odd six in his pants there. But that's what the charging documents say. That's what the evidence says. He's got a 30 in his at all.

No. So what I need to see I need to see real evidence of how the [ __ ] he got this rifle to the roof.

Because it's not what we've seen so far. Haven't they also said that it was disassembled and that's why the part of the gun at one point walking up the stairs? So, how when did he reassemble it or disassemble it to put it.

In his backpack? Cuz if that's before what you're showing.

Right?

He had it in his leg. Oh, so the whole time he's supposed to be walking disassembled.

Then it's in his backpack.

Well, they're claiming he walks to the roof and it's in his pants. He somehow disassembles it on the way to the roof and puts it in his backpack for these pictures, right? Because these pictures prove he doesn't have a 30 odd six in his pants. Now he supposedly has it in this tiny little black backpack, which by the way, I've broken down a 30 odd six. It's it won't fit in this little backpack. He breaks down into three pieces, two in some versions. It's not going to fit in an 18inch backpack. But then again, he but then he goes to the roof and reassembles it. cold boore shot because keep in mind he's a reassembled gun with a scope on it now which those of us that shoot know that's not the best way not the best way to take a long gun shot is with a reassembled rifle with a cold war boore scope and then disassembles it somehow back in the backpack reassembles it in the woods to leave it there in a towel and then also dumps the extra shell casings out of his pocket and then leaves them with the gun for some That's sort of our our start to this.

It's also I mean.

Does that does that sound I know it's comical. I don't know what.

That's the official narrative though, right?

Nothing must never like you have two guys similar or like you have someone similar build, two different outfits. Uh I don't understand why they just went, "Oh yeah, one guy changed clothes." If you don't have him on video changing clothes, why did they never entertain that his homosexual furry boyfriend who is an identical frame was not one of these two and one of them put the rifle up there, left, the other guy comes up there afterwards and does, you know, like there's like a million ways that this would make more sense than all of the things that are supposedly the official story. Well, the thing that just came out recently was uh the thing Baron showed the the guy that was, you know, the other Patsy that had the other rifle that might be an air rifle or something similar. Have you seen that in the last couple days?

I haven't.

So that Yeah. So all this information came out. There was two other arrests and both of them had some kind of rifle. They say it was like a 22 air caliber rifle or something similar. They both have a wooden stock that look like mousers. Huh.

There at the scene.

Yeah.

Yes. He got arrested. He got arrested. Project.

Con 22 caliber like like like nitro. That's not the point, though. The point is that there was other people there with guns that got arrested.

But here's the here's the thing. Here's here's the here's the kicker.

That dude is that dude has connections to Lance.

They're in the same furry group. They're they have like all these connections. Project did two posts on that today.

What's his name?

Let me pull it up.

Cuz I have all those guys dialed from when I, you know, when I my original hypothesis when I we went deep on these guys, dude. We got into all their like Steam stuff and like we I like all the records connecting uh like who's in that crew. We connected Robin Westman, the shooter from uh Michigan uh.

Russell Kennington.

From two weeks before to to those people like they're all they were all connected.

Here, I put it I put it in the shared chat. I put it in the private chat. You can pull that link up.

Thanks for president. I'm gonna I'm gonna hit super chats as we go guys as you guys are like bringing up points and stuff like that. Down from the campground. So, I have a signal, but there's a party from the fourth and park. Just happy say 4th of July. Thank you. Thank you. What has 10 arms and six sleeves? These dudes. Yeah, we did this one from Bobby. Couple more. Uh, no way you can take apart a rifle and not have to recite the scope. Yes, this is so true.

Yeah. Usually, it's just not a thing, right? On any scope, you can't take your or take the scope off the gun and put it back on and expect you're going to have, you know what I mean, Matt? Could you imagine taking a long gun scope off, putting all in your backpack, and then just reassembling it and just taking a Cold War shot and expecting it to.

There's never You're never going to hit that shot. Well, well, I mean, maybe, but.

I mean, the especially How do you take it apart while you're getting up and then have it completely disassembled within less than two seconds? That's just.

Well, you don't with a 300 6. It takes at least It takes about two minutes to to disassemble uh a 300 6 at least. At least the the versions I have. Maybe a mouser is a little bit different, but I mean I imagine.

Takes you two minutes, it's gonna take them seven.

Yeah. Yeah. That's me as somebody that like very very comfortable and familiar with how to do it. This kid who's probably never done it before.

Is there is there anything with this Victor Markx collapsible rifle that you've looked into?

Anybody? I don't know. So, I mean, I've said from the beginning, if you were to talk about like this being an AR-15 style weapon with like a 300 Blackout round, Yeah. I mean, my my AR-15 can collapse down into something that could fit in a backpack in three seconds.

But, uh, like.

That's what I was saying, too. You don't need this special full AR to do that.

No. No. But like.

I have a 10 that can do it.

A World War I era mouser is not got a collapsible butt stack on it. Like that's that collapsible buttstocks in World War I. Like that's if it was a different type of gun. It be a different type that era what a collapsible stock would be. They'd be they would literally think that you just showed them an iPhone.

Yes. Exactly. Yeah. There there's no there's no like high-speed collapsible buttstocks in 1918, man. That's.

Yeah.

That's that's not what we're talking about. So, all right. Uh where where were we at here talking about Okay. So, we got him coming to to campus getting up to the roof. Obviously, that is silly. Let's talk about the shot being taken.

I got to see something in the trial about this [ __ ] man. Which is.

Uh this dude, like we've got George Zen. You're you're telling me that this [ __ ] guy just happens to be here. The second the shot rings out, he pulls his pants down and starts screaming, "I'm the shooter." Like, but there's no involvement. There's like there's no connection to him with what's going on. Does anybody believe that? Like I mean maybe I just.

Well, I'll tell you what a lot of people don't know is that George Zen, that guy right there, you know, a lot of people have said the he was at or 911 or the Boston bombings or whatever it might be. But what I found was I found that interesting that that he he endorsed Phil Lyman. He's an official endorser on website.

And then once Danks pointed that out, they took it off the website, too. Like they they didn't realize it was on there and they took it down after.

I have video.

Well, and also, you know, he gets arrested right afterward for CP, right? Exactly. If you guys didn't know this, that makes it that's the one charge that he's not allowed to be interviewed.

M.

But it also supports that the way they would have if this is a bigger conspiracy the way they would have gotten Tyler up on the roof the way way they would have got this guy to be a distraction the way they would have gotten all of these people to do the things that they want them to do is they would have picked out people who are avid consumers of horrifying CP and they blackmailed him to do what they had.

You're right, you're right, that's that's a very MK Ultra style thing to do.

Yeah, that's a blackmail tactic.

We'll definitely get to this one here in just a second. Why was the crime ski stamper with and gave the order to do it also paving over we'll talk about that in a second. We're we're just starting with the shot ring, you know. Here's the other one. Right. Jesse knows Jesse knows this guy better than anybody. Right.

Uh here's another nights on a on account of that dude.

Just again like I guys I've been shot at quite a bit. I have never seen anyone react this way ever. It's just the human the human condition is not to under fire turn around and laugh and cheer and look at the shooter and pump your arms at how cool things are.

I try to I try to relate with this guy in some type of way like was he just trying to like.

No, encourage everybody like hey, it's going to be okay and at some point I'm like.

He did not he has videos out saying why he did it. I get he could you could say that, man. But like again, when you when you're being shot at, bro, and you you hear in a situation with gunfire going off.

And again I I WAS pretty conditioned to it, boys.

Jesse.

And I you would never see me doing some [ __ ] like that.

What do I think about this? Yeah. Right here. What do you think he's doing?

If I had to Okay, like I mean, this is not one I feel bulletproof confident on. If I had to bet though, I would bet that whoever actually did this and is trying to frame leftists for it, they put out a bunch of stuff onto leftist like uh groups which brought people like this dude out there to watch what was going to happen. And when Charlie got shot, I think that this was a left cuz when Trump got shot and survived and the whole crowd started chanting USA, I think this guy was chanting USA cuz he thought Charlie had actually gotten killed and so this was him like rubbing it in the right's face that like, hey, we got your guy this time.

Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense.

I That's interesting. And that brings up another point, too. all of these. I mean, we know how how many people on Twitter I mean, there was a dude that made a song about this like a little bit before. How many people on Twitter this talked about this happening before it happened? Quite a few.

Yeah.

So, for me trial like.

If we don't if I don't hear a word in the trial about like these nine other people who seem to be somewhat.

I'm going to be very very concerned. Right. Cash testified in front of Congress and said there was at least 20 people that they were all that they were looking into in all those Discord groups. Nothing. And then nothing.

That I don't know how you guys feel about that, but that's that's a tough cell for me. That's a tough cell for me. All right, so the the shot rings off. We uh we see we're not going to play any of that footage because guys, they will immediately demonetize anything Kirk related when with that now. So we've all seen it a hundred times.

Shot rings out. We see we then see Tyler Robinson flee which we've all seen the footage. We again we don't all we see is the frame where he's running. We don't get to say him getting up. We don't see him reassembling or disassembling his rifle. He supposedly leaves the screwdriver. He's got his DNA evidence on. He runs. He jumps off the off the roof. Doesn't look like he has a gun on him. Um and then makes it off to the chicken coupe. Dumps the reassembles the rifle. Dumps it in the woods. also for whatever reason takes the other three rounds out of his pocket and throws them on the ground engraved because.

Right.

Why not? Sure. Let me leave the evidence.

I thought weren't the rounds still they were still in the in the magazine. Uh because he hadn't he had only taken one shot and had.

Was that what it was? Okay. So that would make it a although again he had to reassemble the rifle and put the magazine back in.

Yeah. True.

Make no sense. Yeah.

And then leave it there. Uh, so and then the uh from there we have the the uh well we we'll get to.

We got the DNA on the towel DNA screwdriver.

Right? That's what I was just going to get to. Then we got the DNA problems, right? There's problems with the DNA. Isn't there like six or seven people's DNA on this rifle? Thanks, Matt. I know you guys are.

Five. I think there's five. Six, including Tyler. And do you guys think that maybe Lance.

Who definitely has access to Tyler's DNA, could have I mean, everything that is going to be got in the messages and the confessions Lance could have done and the DNA evidence Lance easily also could have done, you know.

But you still that there's still five other people, are they?

They were dirty ass dudes over there, man. It's probably a bunch of They're Magic the Gathering nerds.

But correct me if I'm wrong, guys. They weren't able to. Now, this is not that uncommon for like a murder trial with a weapon. maybe like the law enforcement officers get their hands on it, whatever, but you can exclude them from the DNA or the fingerprint samples because you can just.

You can just prove it with or or back check it to the law enforcement officers. From what I understand, there's three or four untraceable DNA.

On this rifle on top of Tyler. Is that right? I want to make sure like we're getting things right.

I haven't seen anything confirming that.

How long does DNA stay on an object? Does anybody know.

Been on the environment?

Can be a long time.

Sure. But I mean like in the amount of time they found it, it would have for sure still been there.

Okay.

Yeah.

They'll go because they'll go ripping through people's trash, you know, like so like something that's been in there for much longer than that and they'll pull it and they'll be able to pull like perfect samples off that stuff.

Oh yeah.

It says it can stay on for a few hours up to several months.

Okay. So.

So, but again, we've got we've got the DNA on the towel, on the rifle, and on the screwdriver left on the roof from Tyler Robinson, right?

Wait, towel? So, we're talking about a gun and a towel.

Yeah, cuz he's supposed to screwdriver.

Wrapped the gun in a towel. Even though.

Cuz I'm looking at the fact that he can't even have a gun on him now. He has a towel. Where was the towel?

In the back. In the magic backpack. Oh, in the magic backpack. It's in Door the Explorer's backpack.

Hey, Nate. Does it say Does it Does it say DNA on the on the rifle itself? Do it. Does it say that or or No.

On the trigger.

I believe it says on the trigger.

It is. It's definitely on the trigger. It says Tyler Robinson DNA on the trigger.

Yep.

And you could get a finger. Obviously, you can get a fingerprint from a from a trigger, of course. Right. However.

Not not a to not a not a full one, though, I would assume. However, does that necessarily mean that rifle was used to take the shot? It's a 30 odd six. I don't believe that. So.

I I said on day two or day three, I was on Alex Jones show. I said, you know, very easily you could have had a situation where Tyler is the pathy or Lance is involved and they're told to stash that rifle in the chicken coop so that the actual shooter can come by, get it, and take the shot. And if that's Tyler's if if Tyler is as Apache or MK Ultra type thing and again, who knows here, right? We're speculating.

Uh yeah, he's gonna have his DNA on because it's his rifle.

Did they GSR Tyler?

No, not that I know of.

I heard early on that they found it on like how would they not test his his you know what I mean? If you got his fingerprints supposedly like in his text messages, he's all hope they don't get my print. So he wasn't wearing gloves. So obviously you should be able to garm him and either he has it or he doesn't.

Right?

Well, I don't know. Let's let's talk about uh let's talk about the rifle though, right? That's where we're at. So the rifle itself we're given I forgot to Anybody got the the picture of the rifle?

We're given.

We're we're given the the this goes viral the stock footage of the rifle. We've all seen it right in the in the cardboard box right at nighttime with the flashlight. And so much of the story that we were told with the evidence actually it's important because of this rifle because the rifle itself that we're shown. We're told then that his parents recognize it, right?

And they text him and ask where the rifle is because they saw it on TV. Isn't that what we're told by the official narrative? They they they saw an image of the rifle which matched uh which matched their the one that his like the father's father had had given to Tyler or whatever which and this is.

That's why this was such a huge because I'm like this doesn't look like 1911 and then when.

That's from Walmart dude.

Yeah. When you when you image search this this not only doesn't it looks very similar to a like more mainstay uh mouser. It looks identical to a Ruger uh a Ruger. What? Um like the most common 300 6 on Earth is like the Ruger whatever that you can.

Yeah, Ruger Americ 6 with a scope that's like five inches too far back on.

It. But point being is this is not the rifle.

>> Yep.

>> So the entire narrative that Tyler Robinson's parents saw the rifle, that's how they knew it was him. But again, did that ever even make sense? Like if I saw a random picture of a Browning 30 odd six would I be like yep that's mine?

>> right?

>> From three hours away in a rand like okay, that never made sense anyway because there's you know, like to to say that you you recognized your gun from you know, a situation like this was bizarre. But so we know that's not it. But that's what we were told is that Tyler Robinson's parents saw the rifle, they contact him and then they turned him in because he admitted that to them. Now, can you I know Baron Baron debunked this right through.

>> Look at this mount job. Like, am I tripping or is this like?

>> I don't I don't know what the hell's going on. The scope is like four inches too far back on the gun to begin with.

>> This looks like AI in itself.

>> It does right there. Huh?

>> I've never even looked at that before.

>> That's not attached to [ __ ].

>> It's all mushed together.

>> Yeah, you're right. That's completely fake generated image.

>> I literally never even done this. I just was looking at it right now like, huh, that doesn't look right. Yeah, that's a fake gun.

>> So, I did a video on this. I deep dived on this whole thing. So, New York Post says that is the gun. That's the gun.

>> Well, who is the New York?

>> And hold on, hold on. And if you look at the evidence and you look all the stuff that's been submitted for this probable cause case, um, they say that there's a gun in a box is is one of the line items. So, I think that is supposedly the exact gun according according to everything I've seen. I did a whole video on it.

>> But didn't the FBI come out come out and say that's not the gun and that they haven't released anything and something I thought this was this was leaked to to uh Steven Crowder this image?

>> No. No. It was some some podcasters came out and said it wasn't and it was fake and all that [ __ ]. But that's why I dived back into it because someone was I saw something came out and they're like, "No, this is the gun." I was like, "No,

>> that's but that's not that's not a World War I era mouser. It's got a stock on it."

>> Correct. But it's sporterized. So it's a mouser. They switch the stock out from wood to the synthetic aftermarket one, which everyone does. If you if you look online, that's the most common thing. There's whole websites dedicated to just updating mousers, right? So, not only did they update the stock to be a synthetic stock, but they also updated to be a 3006 instead of a 8mm or 762, whatever the the original ones were. So, based on everything I can find, they're claiming that that is the gun.

>> That is the gun. Now,

>> according to New York Post and according to everything I can find,

>> New York Post is still saying that that that corpse of uh Epstein at the at the corner is him, too. I mean, somehow the New York Post is just uh you know, they're conveniently getting these things and then, you know, they get debunked later.

>> I mean, he doesn't even have the scope on correctly enough to even fire a real shot on that. So,

>> that's my thing. That looks like a a AI uh picture right there. I mean, literally, if they're actually saying that this is uh that this is actually

>> then we do I mean, if they're really saying that, then you actually do have to look at this. And it's like, bro, that I mean, this is not attached to anything.

>> No, it's not.

>> like this is like it's not it's like

>> you can't shoot anything with this from a long distance.

>> No, you're right. Now that I'm looking at it, that scope is not attached to that gun.

>> It's not attached, right?

>> Unless I mean, maybe

>> not attached at all. Like

>> I mean

>> I mean

>> it could be a super low profile mount, but it would still be pretty shitty either way.

>> Yeah, that's not put on correctly.

>> I'm just saying using that whatever it is, whether it's AI or real, you cannot shoot anything accurately from 100 yards away.

>> You can shoot anything accurately if you practice with it.

>> If you zero it, if you zero it in, even if it's on shape like steady, you might be able to. But this is

>> But the thing is he he couldn't have though cuz he [ __ ] disassembled it and reassembled it.

>> Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah.

>> Threw that on, dude.

>> You're right.

>> He just threw it on all [ __ ] up and then took the perfect shot to the next from 140 yards with that much distraction noise and everything else.

>> It's not z it can't be zeroed because you can't take the scope off of a gun and then have it still be zeroed. That's not how zeroing a weapon works, right?

>> Yeah.

>> The second you take it off, it's no longer zeroed. You have to rezero it. So

>> rezero it.

>> Unless Yeah. The only way you could zero it would be if he had one of those laser pointer 306 rounds and then he did it like through the scope and then you know uh there's just there's no [ __ ] way that that happened. I like there that's just it did. You're right. Impossible.

>> All right. So So according to Matt this and again Matt I'm not saying you're not wrong. We're just trying to figure these things out so we have a good understanding of the evidence as we know it going into Monday. That as we as we know it for now is what the FBI is saying is the actual gun.

>> Yeah. The New York Post did it twice. Two separate posts they did said this is the weapon found on site by the FBI in like the caption of the gun.

>> So they're saying it is. I'm not saying it is. They're saying it is.

>> Right. No, no, that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Well, just not this doesn't mean

>> I I don't believe the 306 got used no matter what to kill him. But uh

>> but guess who But guess who runs and basically owns New York Post?

>> I don't know.

>> I ruptur I could guess. Was it Murdoch? You'll probably guess right.

>> Rupert Murdoch.

>> Is it? Of course.

>> Yeah. The Murdoch family. Yeah.

>> Yeah. So, Fox News. Yeah. Okay. So,

>> I'm I'm really starting to believe that 60 Minutes interview that Candace recently played. I mean, it's all a stage and we're just watching it unfold and it's at scale, you know, all the way up to the top. You know, it really concerns me that Baron's foyer request about the plane came back from the presidential airlift group and that's kind of I mean, if Bor Wuka is connected that implicates all the way to the top and that's a scary place to think about.

>> Well, if it goes all the way to the top that means I'm right and he's in wits. If it goes to Trump,

>> if it goes to Trump, that also I mean that leads into a lot of my theories because it it I'm not saying he's the one who's behind it, but I am saying that it sure seems like Charlie Kirk would have been a really big problem for Donald Trump moving forward with a lot of things. Uh the Iran war, Thomas Massie, the Epstein files, like these are all things that Charlie Kirk was going to be a big [ __ ] problem for Donald.

>> Think about the data centers, AI, like all the other

>> things. Yeah, I've never I've certainly never pushed against them having a massive motive to to knock him off.

>> All right, let's hit let's hit some uh Go ahead. Go ahead, Aaron. And then we'll hit some super chats. I want to make sure we we stay with these because the questions are kind of like filtering in as we're talking about this. Go ahead, though.

>> If Charlie Kirk was getting paid by them and for whatever reason he turned on them because he was with them at first and then he turned on them and he turned down money. I can't see them not getting rid of him in real life because he started turning down money. So to fake his death would mean he took the money and actually be able to trace that money that was offered. But

>> it's on record that he turned the money down. So if he turned the money down, I think he is dead because he turned the money down. We know, we do know that he turned the the cash influx down. Do we know for sure that TPUSA accepted that cash influx afterwards he was killed? I I've heard

>> Did you see what Andrew Kovitt said today on I literally just did a video about this where he's saying that not only did they never get offered that $150 million, but that even if they did, it wouldn't they wouldn't have been able to take it because of XYZ. And what I commented on is like, okay, so let's just say that what he's saying is like even partially accurate. What he definitely did not say is that he said TPUSA can't take that money. He didn't say Charlie or him couldn't have taken that money. Like

>> you know, because you know that they offered Trump $200 million to agree that if he won to let them annex the West Bank, right? Like that's essentially. So like

>> what would the difference be? Like you you think that these people don't have ways to just give people $150 million? Like you just have like a cold storage Bitcoin wallet and have $150 million on it. You know what I mean?

>> Didn't Didn't Candace say that uh they rolled it into a stock investment like a new a startup or

>> something like that? Yeah.

>> Something like that. Yeah. And andrew just publicly like just denied it.

>> Yeah. But you have to watch out for these [ __ ] people, right? Because they're crafty. Because to Gangster's point, what he'll say is TPUSA never accepted $150 million cash influx.

>> While he's not denying part of the story,

>> well, he's not while he may not be lying that they didn't accept $150 million cash investment, they may have also accepted $150 million in a different form in an equity investment. So you [ __ ] you got to be [ __ ] careful with these people with the way that they deny things like that, you know?

>> Yeah. Listen to them like you're a lawyer. What are they not? have I have a a art theory that I'm still scared to do a live about to this day because I'm afraid of getting sued. But

>> then you probably shouldn't talk about it.

>> This the worst possible place for you to talk about this if you don't want to get sued. Literally, I can promise you some of our some of our friends some of our friends are watching this right now getting ready to do some expose [ __ ].

>> So, I would I would save that for your for your own stream.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> We we'll move past that one. All right, let's hit let's hit some let's hit some of the super chats so Aaron doesn't get us all.

>> Yeah, everybody all at once.

>> Yeah. All right. Uh we're going to talk about this. Why did they not preserve the crime scene papers? Why did they not collect all the evidence? His phone, the car, etc. We will talk about that here soon. Uh if you have a viewer saying no audio, yeah, just refresh. Type uh just type F5 in the uh in the chat. How do you say refresh? Works so the viewer can't hear.

>> Things look good.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Have any of you actually watched a case from beginning before to end before investigation? All pre-trial hearings in a trial? I have. Yes.

>> I did with a DD trial.

>> This is my

>> They can be boring. There's definitely that's why I want to get a bunch of guys in on it. Uh we got me and Matt so far that are going to be and then I'm sure you guys will probably jump in with us. But

>> it'll be it'll be like like there will be like like blips of such amazing excitement. Like Lance is testifying today, you guys. It's his first day of testimony.

>> Yeah. You know. In the real.

>> Hey, Nate's Terra. My handle is from Brady Bunch. If he gets convicted, he will be able to get off on appeal. That's why he needed a private attorney. We're talking about Tyler.

>> Sounds like

>> Oh, it's going to be tough to appeal that. They'll kill him before death. I I don't know. I think he's definitely getting the death penalty. We're going to talk about at the end what we think is going to happen. Thank you, Bonnie. We'll do a couple more. Have you guys seen a picture of the microphone after exploded? You can see USB port device obviously malfunction next day pavement to hide the residue. We're going to talk about that. We'll get we'll get to the exploding pager thing as as we get a little bit further. Charlie wasn't shot. The of course there's no footage of TR shooting from the roof. Well, there is there is a gunshot that goes off. Uh that is that's going to be really hard to work our way around, but that doesn't necessarily mean there wasn't multiple things happening at once, right?

>> Was it a shot?

>> There's called fail safes. No, I'm saying there was a gunshot.

>> Okay.

>> From what everybody in the crowd said, they don't they don't think it sounded like a 306. They think it sounded more like a 22 or maybe a, you know, like a 223 round or a firework.

>> There was some type of

>> blank or a blank they put in there for Tyler or whoever was on the roof, you know.

>> And keep in mind, keep in mind, guys, the a blank sounds just as loud as a real bullet, right? It's the same amount of explosive powder. It's just not firing a cartridge out of it. So, you can use blanks and they're very, very loud. So, that's possible, too. All right, two more. Let's jump in. Thank you, Renee. And uh seems like they're trying to use uh jargon that won't be understood by anyone who doesn't know the basics of shooter laying down etc. would look like. Yeah, maybe. All right. So um

>> let's do bullet let's do the bullet fragments.

>> Oh, okay. That's good. Yeah, let's do that. So this is a this is an interesting one. Uh I, you know, me and Jesse I think we had talked about this before with Chris Pyota, right? Um, we asked Chris this Jesse. He said the fact that the bullet can't be conclusively matched language is important to Tyler Robinson rifle uh because TPUSA and officer Tatum will tell you none of that matters. According to Chris Pyota, he said that's actually very very important because it just helps instill reasonable doubt into the case. Right. So,

>> um, have we learned anything beyond that? I did a whole episode on the follow-on report that of course some of our our friends uh use to mislead people with, but we haven't found any about any more than that than the ATF report also saying that it's not conclusive. And then

>> I could kind of explain the difference between a 30 caliber and a 306 because that seemed to be a very seemed to be like TPUSA that was a gotcha. They seem to uh somehow try to say that because it says a 30 caliber uh a 30 caliber bullet was found in Charlie but they couldn't match it. That means it's a 306.

>> Do we all do we all understand that that's

>> not what that means?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Yeah. One thing I was just going to throw out there just because you brought it up is like if during this trial if you see that any of us are hosting Chris Pyota, we we should definitely do

>> that is where you listen like that's where everybody just shut your dumb face and listen to dude who is third in command of the FBI in this type of like he knows exactly what's

>> technical evidence. Yeah.

>> Yeah. Exactly. I just listen to him and I'm like okay that makes sense. And like it's it's it's very uh illuminating when he's talking about cases in terms of like cuz he's also like with us or he's looking he's like ah you know but he like knows that's why you should be suspicious of XYZ not necessarily this case where he was talking about but like that Brown the Brown shooting I did a stream with him and it was like so yeah we should we should definitely start bringing him on when it comes to the trial for sure.

>> Do you guys uh Matt or Danks in your coverage of the trial do you guys have any anything extra on this on the on the fragments? Yeah. So, basically the ATF did their testing. They did the VCM, the visual analysis, and then they also did some metallergical testing on the lead fragments. And then that was what was inconclusive. But then it says right here in the document, the state also intends to conduct melogical testing with the FBI. So, the FBI is supposed to be doing testing after the ATF. So Chris Pyota, we asked Jesse, you remember we asked him about that about the ATF doing a report and the FBI doing an independent report and he said that never happens and they do not allow that to happen because what happens if the ATF comes back with one thing and the FBI comes back with other, your case is shot.

>> Yeah.

>> And so he said that's actually insanely bizarre. And he he says that you you should not expect to see the FBI actually come back with anything here because only the ATF would actually handle that. And that's from the

>> because then like you you if if they came back with oh it's a positive match literally then now the juryy's going to assume that anything that came from the FBI would be suspect that they planted it or whatever because you know oh the ATF said it doesn't match and the FBI told no no it does match. It's like

>> that's the thing though it's the lang it's the language though the the ATF said it was inconclusive. That doesn't mean it doesn't match. So by them saying inconclusive that means whatever the FBI comes up with is good to go. That's the problem.

>> Yeah. Well, it means what it means is the ATF cannot say the ATF can't prove that it's matched. But to Matt's point, if the FBI could prove that,

>> maybe what I also think is interesting here is in that report it says a 30 caliber round

>> was found inside Charlie. Mhm.

>> This is where and I was actually very disappointed in and you know I talk about Gary ever, but I was very disappointed in Gary because Gary is an actual firearms expert and he used it as an opportunity to immediately come out and say he took that clip and he said this proves it was a 306. Now he knows that 30 caliber doesn't mean 306 and he still decided to mislead his viewers which I think is is just not the way to do it. For those you don't know, pretty much every W rifle fires a 30 caliber round or can fire a 30 caliber round. So you can fire a 300 Blackout round, not an AR-15,

>> 308, AK-47 round is a 30 caliber round, right? Uh your 300 Win Mag, your 300 6, 3030. There's like 15 different rounds out of every rifle platform that shoots a 30 caliber round. So understand guys, for those of you who aren't big firearms guys, the ATF report saying a 30 caliber round that could be matched to pretty even pistols. There are there are even pistols that can shoot a 30 caliber round. So that doesn't mean it's not a 306 because a 300 6 is a 30 caliber round, but it could be, you know, it could be a every different type of rifle that basically exists fires a 30 a 30 caliber round. So right is everybody 30 caliber round. If they did find a killed 30 caliber round inside of Charlie's body though, if that's true, obviously that would lend it, you know, that would be

>> Yeah.

>> He was shot by some type of he was what that would mean is he was shot by some type of firearm.

>> Exactly.

>> That's what it tells from a pistol.

>> But here's the thing, though. If if they have a if they have a a magazine and it has three other bullets in it.

>> Mhm.

>> And he fired one bullet and they have the casing and this says right here right here in the report it says with a jacket. So it's a jacketed bullet of some type. They can just look at the other three bullets and see exactly what it is.

>> That's true. Does it match the other three the other three or four that are still in the mag. This is this is important, Matt, because when I saw that report, that was my very first thought and I was a little confused why the ATF didn't list what the specific actual round was because to your point, they have three other rounds right there that they could say, "Okay,

>> hold on. I got it right here. I got it right here.

>> These are 3030. These are 30 odd six. These are 300 Win Mag,

>> right?

>> Can I share screen real quick?" They could and they could test the metal on like even like if they identify the it's a you know if they're all the same rounds they're say they're Winchester whatever it is like they could take that projectile they found in Charlie and then metal test it to see if it is the same as the ones that were still in the mag right

>> they list it right here

>> they literally say 306 Springfield caliber cartridge. You have the casing. So the case that's left is a 306 Springfield. The other three are also 306 Springfield. So they're saying all of them were 306

>> in this report. This is the report that they put out.

>> I guess they're saying that those were the actual the if you go to the report, go down to where it talks about what was found inside Charlie. That's not what they say.

>> Let's see.

>> Yeah. So, like, so they're saying inside the magazine you have one spent casing

>> and they also say they can't conclusively match the brown found in Charlie to those casings to that,

>> which is crazy because like I said, they should be able ballistics and try to match is I I'm not you guys probably know this better than me, but like the markings on it from the barrel or whatever, if they couldn't do that, they still would be able to test that that the the metal makeup of the round against the ones that are still in at in that rifle to see if this this we were already told by the FBI. We were already told this was for 306 rounds, right? My point is when you go to the actual if you scroll down to the actual report of what they found,

>> they don't say a 3006, they say a 30 caliber round and also cannot be conclusively matched to those to those cartridges to that rifle. Right?

>> One really important point for people who are not firearms people is like see what it says here. This is important. Like legal legal documents, guys. And Baron would able to say this. My dad's a lawyer. Words are so important. Words mean very specific things in legal and evidence. And so what you see here is it says consists of 130 caliber deformed damaged bullet and four leg fragments. The next the very next paragraph says the result of the care comparison was inconclusive. Right? They were not able to match that 30 caliber round to the rifle or those cartridges that they listed above that. And then uh and you see down there on the bottom, it says uh firearms right here. And it they say it in the report, exactly what I'm telling you. Firearms that produce general rifle rifling characteristics similar to those observed in exhibit 6A, the bullet found in Charlie fragment, include numerous makes and models. They literally say the the 30 caliber bat bullet can't be conclusively matched because it could belong to a wide variety of different types of rifles.

>> And look at that report says right there.

>> They said it's the leg fragments are not suitable for microscopic comparison because that's what I'm saying. Compare it microscopically the metal to the ones that are in the rifle. Why would you not be able to Why would that not work? My point with this is you could have Char you could have Tyler Robinson's rifle and some [ __ ] rounds, but if Charlie was shot with a different [ __ ] gun.

>> Yeah.

>> That still matches this report.

>> Oh, wait. I'm sorry. The microscopic comparisons is that are they referencing how they look for the markings? Is that how they match? I might have actually said the wrong thing there.

>> Okay, I apologize. That's not

>> But to my point, right? Like yes, they talk about that they found those cartridges, but when you actually get down to the report, that's not what it says. They should say a 30 odd six round was found

>> inside of Charlie Kirk. It does not say that. And then it very specifically, they are very specific to tell you the reason why we can't conclusively match this is because this round could be matched to multiple different types of rifles. The ATF said that in the report. Yeah, I'm not This isn't my opinion. I'm just we're going by the report, right?

>> dude? But language too is like any of those the majority of those what's what's a 30 caliber round that you would not expect to rip through his neck though like 762 is probably going to go through

>> 300 blackout 300 blackout be as small as you get and that's going to blow right through his neck too.

>> Yeah.

>> I mean most likely right?

>> Yeah.

>> Well I mean a subsonic at 140 yards might not but I don't know.

>> It's gonna Yeah. Maybe maybe not. Right. Well, you're in the to Matt's point from that angle, you're in the realm of possibilities for sure now. Like

>> short barrel though, like with a short barrel, it's going to go a little bit slower.

>> Mhm.

>> But

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it still soft neck tissue.

>> Yeah.

>> And not penetrating through an exit room. I mean, you'd expect even a pistol round to do that, but but to my point,

>> you are in the realm of like statistical probabilities here that

>> if it was, let's say, you know, AR-15 with a 300 blackout round to Matt's point, uh, yeah, maybe right now, you could very easily have, not very easily, it'd still be statistically low probability, but it's in the realm of like if you, if the FBI would have told me that right out the gate, it was an AR-15, I probably would have been like, "Okay,

>> Yeah.

>> that would make a little bit more sense.

>> It's like it's possible at least.

>> Yeah, you would think you would think that the 30 caliber finding would actually be like why wouldn't they just turn it into Oh, it's not a 30. I guess because they the gun they [ __ ] up with the gun. They should have never showed the gun.

>> I don't know. Just saying. Yeah, you know, when we look at the report, right, this is why I did a whole episode on that report to try to explain this to people of like, hey, we have we have to really understand what they're talking about uh with the words here. But anyway,

>> but again, when you're talking about reasonable doubt, right? like that.

>> And if they did and if it was a let's just say like play it out if it was a 300 let's say it was 300 blackout and they he was shot from a different position or whatever because a 300 blackout

>> like from I mean that's a much tough well I guess not necessarily a tougher shot either way where did that shot come from and where did that person go? You know what I mean? If it was not

>> we we don't know for sure that rifle was even on the roof. You there's nothing that we know for sure. I feel like at all.

>> No. Okay, let's that's that's good with the with the fragments. Let's talk about paving over the crime scene, right? That's another one that I think everybody is like, "Okay, is this a I wish we had like a uh crime scene investigator on the panel. I don't know if you guys have have talked you guys have talked to a lot of different like interesting people in that regard. Matt and DX, have you heard anything like is that is this a normal I've never heard anything like this. Is this a normal thing that you got to just immediately pave over? And why did have we got a reason why they had to pave over this immediately?

>> There was nothing normal about it. Uh if you watch the interview from the guy who actually did it, it was called a paver emergency. Something he'd never heard of. They had him do it on

>> paper emergency.

>> A paver emergency.

>> Oh, you didn't hear that?

>> I haven't heard that. No.

>> I've never heard those words about anything.

>> What does that mean?

>> Yeah, they they hit him up. Yeah, he'll tell you. I have that day. They didn't work that day either. So, he had he had he had a really hard time finding people to help him because no one else usually works on that day. And uh basically, long story short, they they hired him. He jumped in and did it. And afterwards, he's like, you know, it seems kind of sketchy, but you know, the the soil had already been removed by somebody else. And the people that did it before, I guess they were like the UVU crew or something or or they worked for the state. So, it was all sketchy, but they removed 10 10 inches of earth

>> to do pavers. I don't know if that's normal.

>> Do we know why

>> do you want to see the actual video of the guy talking?

>> I can tell you why. So,

>> no, that's okay. Don't worry about it. We We got a We got a lot to get through. Yeah. I think

>> the only realistic reason that that it would make sense would be in the event that there was an enormous amount of blood like there that they could not get rid of, you know, and there was just like this is trauma for like the students at the school if it was like on

>> But there wasn't because there wasn't But there wasn't. There is very little blood. No blood on the way to the truck. There was no blood under the tent and there was no blood in the actual truck. There was no blood anywhere.

>> Nowhere.

>> The the only thing I can say for sure is that that guy that did the interview that Triggers was talking about and that Mr. Lego wanted to play is that he said that the governor, Governor Cox and the FBI think he either said I think he said FBI I don't think he named anybody. I don't think he named Cash Patel. He said FBI and Governor Cox said that it was coming from them. So it was coming from the top of the top the person telling him. Yeah. Directly

>> from And then also in the school's uh schedule for that day or or their work schedule of of doing renovations. They had that in there. I don't know if they inserted it in. I don't know enough details about that, but this it wasn't in there. I'm sorry. And then they added it into their schedule. So it wasn't on the preapproved plan is what I meant to say. Yeah. No, no, I see what you're saying. So, it wasn't like, hey, it just happened like they were going to be doing this anyway.

>> Unfortunate coincidence.

>> They have a list of things that they usually do and it wasn't in there and then they added that work

>> and it was done on a Sunday, a day that he work.

>> Yeah. In Utah. So, he turns around and just like, yo, okay, I'll get to it Monday. And, you know, part of the emergency was like, I don't work on Sunday. I'm not I don't want it. He was literally I don't want to do it. And they kind of forced him to do it. And then they turned around and said,

>> "And there will be no questions asked."

>> That was a part of what he said.

>> And this is from the guy who paved it over.

>> Yes. There's no questions. You can't ask any questions.

>> And it's quiet for as long as he did.

>> Yeah. He stayed quiet for as long as he did because he thought he was like doing the right thing. And then when he started getting caught up on how shady the case was, he's like, I should I think I have to talk about this.

>> Yeah. His business was getting hurt. They were leaving onestar reviews. They were calling harassing the guy

>> and and he he was trying to save face. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.

>> That reminds me, I need to bury this dude's business in Palm Desert that tried to [ __ ] my mother-in-law at two grand. Anyway, neither neither here nor there.

>> So, do we have any reason why

>> why

>> why they needed to pay like an official from the FBI from from this guy from the school

>> the pave. It's it's all

>> why did you need to hear at this point

>> nobody has said this like nobody official from an official like FBI the UV

>> that's a good point I don't think

>> the defense like why would the defense not bring that up if they are trying to get Tyler Robinson acquitted

>> I will say I will say

>> I think they've just said beautifying the the property and like cleaning it up I think work they wanted to do but they never did I don't think they've given an official

>> I mean that's a crime scene

>> how fun would it be if we got if we got Tyler to hire us as his defense team and we got to actually just roll in and like and just try this thing and bring up people were like, "Have you ever heard of this?" Like, "Dude, you could tear this case apart."

>> If there was a good reason for it, wouldn't they just be able to say, "Here's the reason." And we'd go, "Oh, okay. That makes sense." But

>> I think the actual reason why they paved it over because no, you know, bomb dogs because it was like explosive, you know, [ __ ] all over the ground. So it wasn't about blood in my opinion.

>> Not if it was a gunshot. It was

>> Oh, you're saying the real reason the real reason they did that is because they wanted to get rid of it. Yeah, I agree that like I think everybody's on the same page that clearly there was evidence of something that actually happened that they wanted to get rid of. Whatever.

>> Bring a dog to there. They would have found all types of [ __ ] with a dog.

>> That's what it looks like. I mean, I don't know how you could come to any con if they haven't given any statement otherwise. I don't see how you could come to any conclusion otherwise. So, I mean,

>> now playing devil's advocate.

>> Yeah. No, no, Matt. These are good. These are good.

>> Go, Matt.

>> So, playing devil's advocate because I had the same question because I I can't say who, but I've spoken to people at UBU. I told them I wouldn't say, you know, who specifically it is. Um, so you're looking at, so say the crime happens today, 4 days later, it's like four or five days later, they do this paving, right? So, there was plenty of time. If somebody want to go there and find some residue or something or catch something, they have plenty of time to do it. But the fact that it was done on a Sunday, you know, it's kind of sketchy, whatever. But four days later, that's plenty of time for the FBI and the police to scrape everything, get all the, you know, samples they need. They had plenty of time to do all that because I was I was like deep in that for like probably two weeks. And I was like, is it normal?

>> But according to Joe Kent and according to Mike Glover and his CIA source, the investigation was concluded by the FBI within 48 hours. Yeah. I mean that to me that seems like plenty of time. Yeah. I mean because you're talking about like what 20 30 40 people on the ground all doing samples everywhere, taking pictures, video, everything. 48 hours. That's a long time.

>> But I think their concern would be someone coming later who's outside of whatever is actually going on and they get into the ground and they find something that they do not want anyone to ever see or have. No, I I get your I get your point with that, Matt. But again, that doesn't

>> that doesn't explain why

>> they were going through the grass for a good

>> what, 45 minutes, just going through the grass looking for something,

>> kicking stuff around. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Wait, they were afterwards? I I haven't seen that. Wait.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Well, here's my right after it happened. Uh this was when um you seen um like when Farnsworth went and got the SD cards start start taking everything down. In the background, you'll see people just looking around kicking [ __ ] you know, like just just looking around in the grass things.

>> You want to hear something? You want

>> you want to hear something crazy?

>> It's not the

>> Listen to this because there's one,

>> you know, the uh Butler uh place where Trump was speaking was also covered up with the building as well.

>> I have that. Yeah.

>> Wait, really? The the Trump Yeah, I saw Baron.

>> He showed it. They he went on Google Earth and they covered up the crime. Got shot

>> was covered up with a building and a a building.

>> They put a cement flooring over the top of it and put an entire building right on top of it.

>> They built a building over it.

>> So now they're going to see that Trump's blood was fake.

>> Is the ear ketchup?

>> Put cement over crime scenes like these big ass crime scenes that are are

>> Wow.

>> Here's here's a good one from Bobby. What's the difference from the TMZ dude's house and the chicken coupe where they found the weapon and how did he put it back together? Didn't they find his screwdriver on the roof? Yeah, that's a problem because as far as I understand it, Matt, maybe you know more about uh a World War I era mouser. I believe a World War I era mouser gets put together with a flathead screwdriver and two pieces.

>> Yeah.

>> I don't believe you need I

>> I don't believe you need as much as like more modern 30 sixes to break.

>> Correct.

>> Two pieces and like two screws. Ian, I know Ian went out there and he told me that he went to like the chicken coop

>> and

>> and I was like,

>> is there a reason why he would have left it there as opposed to like like taken it with him? He's like, so here here's where I like I'm not going to I'll play devil's advocate, too, right? Just me thinking through this. Uh the the excuse will be the reason why he needed to leave it there is because he didn't want to travel back to his car with a 306. So he gets seen and then you know potentially gets arrested. So he's

>> dumping it and then doesn't he say oh let's we could actually we didn't we're going to talk about after the arrest but

>> doesn't he talk about that? I actually have the uh the document of going back and needing to

>> grab the rifle.

>> Um, hold on. Let me pull it back up. is my favorite part of the case

>> of needing to Yeah, we can move on to this. This is a good transition, right, of him kind of getting away. We're kind of to that point

>> of

>> He talks about this, right? Doesn't he say that he needs to find a way? Oh, yeah.

>> That I used to shoot. I need to do that in writing.

>> I'm wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got my vehicle. I'm worried what my old man would do if I didn't bring back his grandpa's rifle. Okay. Uh,

>> the most egregious part of this text thread is when he actually references the the things that were written on the on the on the on the rifle round. Like, you have to be [ __ ] kidding. Every bit of physical evidence is somehow referenced in this text thread. Give me a break.

>> Let's go through this. But again, also, real quick, guys, do you think after you just shot someone in the throat and fled for your life that the number one thing you'd be worried about is your dad finding out that you took his rifle?

>> You know how [ __ ] dumb that sounds? like I mean come on dude

>> dad

>> this is the worst of your your worries. But anyway, let's let's jump into this guys because this is a this is a huge piece of the evidence, right? This is where he admits to the crime. This like you guys said at the beginning.

>> This is like a key piece of evidence that is that's tied to Lance Twigs.

>> It's their confession. It's his

>> This is This is the confession, right? And and here it is, right? I just First thing, I'm still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in

>> dude. No one would talk to their girlfriend, boyfriend. Somebody might, but a 22y old in that situation like that. You would be talking like like think about it. Like if you were talking to your wife, you'd be all, "I still need to try to go back." Even if this was real, he'd be like, "I need to figure out a way." You wouldn't be like, "Hey sweetie,

>> you'd be panic. It's like,

>> it's so dumb. Anyway, okay, let's uh But I'm stuck in Or for a little a little while longer yet. Shouldn't be long before I can come home, but I got to grab my rifle still. Like I love how he admits to literally everything that you could possibly admit it to. To be honest, I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I'm sorry to involve you,

>> but I did write a note for you just in case I didn't want to weren't the one who did it, right?

>> I'm sorry. Also, why would he be apologizing? Isn't it wasn't the whole reason he killed Charlie was for his roommate because Charlie was, you know,

>> right? So bigot.

>> If you intended to do something, why are you apologizing? I

>> Okay. I don't know. to him. I thought they caught the person. No, they grabbed some old crazy dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I plan to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out, but there's still one vehicle lingering. Now, what I know from this, because I actually know one of the sheriffs that was on the ground here, and he was updating me in real time the first day as this was happening, they did not have this lockdown for hours. It took hours for the sheriff's department to get there because the UVU police department did such a terrible job of actually locking this down. So, he actually had plenty of opportunity to freely come back and get its rifle from my police my source that is an actual sheriff there. Anyway, just an aside. Uh,

>> that's really important. That's a really important detail.

>> Yeah, I don't think many people know that. I probably should have told you.

>> I I did not know that. Super important. Um, let me

Let me get you guys want to hear about me? Uh, me talking to the UVU sheriff and him literally line by line as it was happening, right?

Uh, >> yeah. >> So, um, at first, right, and this was I'm talking about before we ever even got the first Cash Patel. We got him like he's updating me and I see Cash Patel put out the message. We got him. And I text him and I'm like, "Okay, Cash." And I sent him, "Hey, Cash Patel said you guys got him." And he goes, "We have no idea why the FBI is saying that. We have no one in custody and we have no leads." And I'm like, "Oh, okay. That's [ __ ] weird."

And then Cash Patel comes out and goes, "We don't got him." Right? And then Cash Patel comes out again and goes, "We got him." >> Cash said that about Zen, right? He He's like, he was talking about Zin the first time. >> Right. And so my buddy in the sheriff's department was like, "We have no [ __ ] clue why he said that because we have no one in custody and we have no suspects at the moment. All we know," he told me, "All we know is that it was it looked like it was somebody in black clothing." At that point, that's all they had known. The sheriff's department who had gotten there after about an hour and they actually had called in the SWAT team from uh what's the big city in Utah? The main city, >> uh Salt Lake City. >> Salt Lake City. The Salt Lake City uh SWAT team had come down hours later to help them deal with the with the situation.

Then when Castell said it again, I was like, "Okay, you guys got him now." and he goes, "No, we [ __ ] pulled over an old guy in downtown Provo who had a plet rifle in the back of his truck. The FBI heard that we had pulled somebody over and Cash Patel immediately posted on Twitter that they found him." And then we had to tell the FBI, "No, we [ __ ] don't have them. Stop doing this." This was straight from the sheriff's at the sheriff's department while this was happening. So this let's give you an idea of how [ __ ] up and and disorganized and how uh basically the FBI was not coordinating with the sheriff's department at all while this was happening.

>> So what let me ask you that like when what what was the like exact timing of when this is happening and I'll tell you why I asked is because a lot of people think that Tyler Robinson was supposed to go >> as it was happening the first day dude like as Cash Patel put the tweet out I text him. >> Yeah. Cuz you know what I'm saying? People thought a lot of people think that Tyler Robinson was supposed to show up somewhere and then get killed by police and and then they're like and then he didn't show up. So like that would line up where Cash is like [ __ ] he didn't show up then.

>> Here's what he told me cuz I was like what was it like when you got there? He said when we got there he's like the entire scene was not secured. We had to basically resecure the entire scene. The the area up where the shooter was. He said nobody had even been up there to look yet. Even though the charging documents said that that police officer ran immediately up there and found the pictures. He was like nobody had even been up there yet. It was the sheriff's department that actually got up there and found that.

>> He's like we actually found a Polaroid picture of Tyler Robinson that he had written I did it on the roof >> after so [ __ ] dumb, dude. >> But anyway, we'll get we'll get back to the charging documents. But anyway, this is kind of interesting, right, of like the sheriff's department just being like, "What are you guys [ __ ] talking about?" the entire time that was going on.

>> Uh, so, so he said, "Here, I've had enough of this hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out." Who [ __ ] talks like this? Not a 22-year-old Gen Z kid. Maybe we'll grab my rifle.

>> Never talked to him about this before either. He sleeps in bed with him and he's just like, "Yeah, I'm just going to keep this to myself like I'm going to go commit this murder."

>> Here's crazy. How long have you been planning this? Just a week. So, this 20-year-old, this 22-year-old Gen Z kid pulls off this and gets in, infiltrates in, pulls off the shot, kills Charlie Kirk, gets out, doesn't get caught, all in just a tiny amount of >> with no practice. >> No practice, having never seen >> eight times.

>> Anyway, so what do you guys Oh, the the engraving down here. I love how he he even writes about engraving the >> That's what I'm saying. That's the dumbest thing of all >> is right here. It says like to end it, "Only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel." Dot dot dot. Remember how I was engraving bullets? The effing messages are mostly a big meme. I see. Whatever that means on Fox News, I might have a stroke. All right, I'm going to leave it. That really [ __ ] sucks. Why would you Why did Again, just >> that What are our thoughts on that here now?

>> That text right there. No one will ever convince me that's real. Like that's not that's >> that's the lead piece of evidence though. I know, but that particular text is so you Oh, hey. Hey, remember when I It's kind of a big meme. And if I see them on Fox News do the you whatever thing, I think I'll have a stroke. It's like, oh, this is just all so silly. It's all so silly. I just shot a dude in the face on national television and I'm just going to reference the physical evidence that I left behind. It's so dumb. It's [ __ ] idiotic. If this was the if this is the main evidence, if you were Tyler Robinson, do you really think you're going to get convicted?

>> Well, I mean, I think he's going to get convicted in Utah. >> I mean, you would think no matter what real good framing me for this. >> Can he file for change of venue because of that? >> Good question. I would if I would want to. >> I would I would file for change. I don't know if he can though because it's a state case, right? He didn't cross state lines.

>> They might be able to change city. >> My insight on the LDS church is limited as it relates to whether he's going to have a a better or worse time physically there. I don't know. But like >> I just >> Yeah, I guess you're right. You couldn't you couldn't you couldn't transfer it out of Utah obviously.

>> No, it's Yeah, even if you go to another city, it's going to be the same Colts. We we could get to our thoughts there at the end. I mean, I think in in Utah with the evidence they have now, which is not even evidence, he's going to get found guilty and get put to death.

>> Damn. >> Because it's so so hardcore religious there >> in my opinion. >> Hopefully hopefully he had downloaded the worst types of stuff. If he is a pathy, I hope that the reason that they chose him is cuz he was watching the most monstrous content in the history of the world. And I'll be happy that he's gone afterwards. You know what I mean?

>> All right. So, we got through that. We got the the silly evidence. Uh, where we where are we at now? >> Let's look at the vehicle. I sent you a link, Nate, in the private chat. Those are from Daisy. That's the HD version of the >> on the text messages. They've never really said >> where these texts came from actually. Right. It's just that the feds have them, right?

>> Oh, no, they did. They did. They said that they said that when they interviewed Lance Twigs, Lance Twigs buckled under questioning. He told them about the note that that Tyler had left him underneath the >> that he destroyed, right? >> The keyboard and then he gave them the text thread uh conversation.

>> No, no, no, no, no, no. This is what we got to right before Matt, we'll get to that. I got it pulled up right before we get to the car. The Discord messages. I think this is huge. This Darren >> and Turkey Tom >> uncovering and Turkey Tom undercovering that the Discord messages were put out after Tyler was already in custody with the sheriff's department. That has been proven right through time stamps. Not not debatable. So that tells us what it tells me as somebody who like I play video games as a hobby. Not anymore, but as grown up.

>> Discord is on my computer. I that's what you use to talk to all your buddies while you're gaming. >> And if you were to come in my house and you got on my computer, you got on Discord, it's already it's all it stays logged in. You could jump in and you could start [ __ ] texting. Well, who could have possibly been sending Discord messages admitting to the crime >> after Tyler Robinson was already apprehended?

>> Could it? >> Maybe Twigs, his roommate boyfriend, who had access to his gaming PC >> and he also could have texted all of that stuff to himself and then gone and deleted Tyler's phone while he was, you know, or what or he had a cloned version of it or whatever. Like, >> right. That's >> if even a real person. I I mean I'm s like I'm not joking about friend of mine in Utah does not think that he's even a real person. He's like I'm He's like I don't know anyone who knows the Lance guy. He's like I know all these other people like we I've got connections all over. He's like but no I haven't talked to anyone who knows that kid Lance. And I'm like that's >> seems weird. I don't know.

>> Let's remember like ultimately to get through through the preliminary they don't have to prove anything. They just have to say they have these. It's up to this to the defense. >> They have to prove probable cause. >> They still have to prove. >> Yeah. I mean, they're going to use whatever they say they have. >> Yeah. But I mean, they they've got like the pictures of Tyler walking up to the roof with him running off the roof. To Den's point, that's probably good enough for them to be like, "All right, we could try to >> Yeah. They're just going to say these are all the things." Anything they can provide to get them through to say we think he's involved, they'll use it. So, they're going to throw the book at him on his own discord, even if they're going to be able to poke holes in whether he actually did it, is going to for sure be enough for them to do the trial theoretically.

>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then later in the trial, if the defense is good, they'll be able to say, "Yeah, not possible. This evidence is not possible." Right. Because he wasn't >> Yeah. I still can't believe that to your guys' point that they're allowing Lance to not show up for the preliminary trial given the fact that he's the source on literally >> all of the key evidence, >> everything. >> Yeah. But >> and he's the most suspicious person >> and he's been given immunity. Well, >> and I heard he got kicked out. >> Stabbed his family member >> as far as was it Baron? Was it Baron or Matt that was explaining he's only got immunity for the recording? >> Yep. >> It was Baron that will be in the pre-trial. He doesn't have immunity for the actual >> uh the actual trial. >> But I would be But I would not be shocked to see the prosecution try to give him full immunity in the actual trial.

>> Question. This can make it to the Supreme Court and get out of Utah. True or false? >> The Supreme Court. >> Yeah. >> Supreme Court will look at state cases. >> I think they would of who who died. I'm pretty sure it can. Look at uh Donald Trump just tried to get the Egene Carol case. That's a private civil lawsuit that went to the Supreme Court that they >> Supreme Court looked at it. They they looked at >> Yeah, but then they turned it down. They said, "We're not taking the case." But it went to the Supreme Court and they turned it down last week. So, >> yeah, I would assume so. I assume you could try to appeal it, but >> Yeah, but I think you have to go through this court first and then appeal.

>> Oh, 100%. 100%. >> Yeah. I mean, in a in an appeal, >> he could he'll be able to appeal. Yes, he'll be able to appeal if it's like the Carmelo Anthony trial. He's they're going to try to appeal. They'll get it's going to get turned down, but >> um he'll have the ability to appeal it. That doesn't mean anybody will take it, >> but >> I think they would take this one. I think they would have to take this one. >> Do you There's I mean, we don't know what they're going to end up doing in trial once they likely get there. So, I mean, it's really hard to say for now.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. What it says about the Supreme Court for this particular type of case is it says the Supreme Court can take on a state murder trial only if the case involves a specific unresolved question of federal law or US constitution which probably means that how Trump was trying to go at the Egene Carol thing was some kind of thing about the president can't be blah blah blah whatever some federal [ __ ] that he was trying to use to get them to take it on and they were like [ __ ] you >> that won't there's nothing there's nothing there that'll make this a federal case.

>> Damn. >> So he's not going to be able to appeal it then. Well, he might be able to appeal it, but not to the Supreme Court. Okay. Uh, let's get to Matt just sent me these. Let's talk about the >> extra. This is evidence, right? The stuff like this is evidence now where they're actually use it. That's going to be Let's pull it up here.

>> The stuff inside. >> Those are courtesy of researcher Daisy, by the way. So, make sure we give her props. >> Researcher Daisy. Thank you. Let's zoom this in. This was found. >> This looks exactly like an explosive debris from something plastic, right? Yeah, >> looks like a battery to me. >> Yeah, it's this looks like a a charred explosive piece of a battery for sure. That was found in uh Tyler's or no, excuse me, not Tyler, but that was found in the SUV that Charlie was put into, right?

>> Mhm. >> That's what they say. That's a picture of Yeah. >> So, >> what's the chance? What's the chance that this is related related to something medical, Nate? >> Related to something medical? >> Yes. Like, >> let me really look at it. Like could that be that to me looks like like it could be a device that projected fake blood, but you know I'm biased on that. Or device >> from a no. From a trauma medicine standpoint, Matt. >> No, that's there's there that's not there's nothing. I've never seen anything.

>> Is it for sure burned? Like are those edges burned? >> Looks charred. Yeah, >> it looks like it. >> This looks like this looks like explosive debris from something plastic or a battery to Matt's point. That's not That's That doesn't have anything to do with anything trauma related. Let's see. That's There's some other ones here, right?

>> But it looks like there's blood on it, right? >> Oh, there's the SUV. >> Yeah, it does look like it is. Yeah. >> Uh don't know what that is. >> Kind of fluid. Yeah. >> Like among all those pictures, they're all This guy slammed his his car door into my door. >> This is where Charlie was was seated, I'm assuming. or >> dude, look at some crime look at some crime scene photos of like someone transported a gunshot victim in the back of their car and compare the amount of blood there versus there.

>> There's almost none, dude. >> I mean, there there's some there's little bits here and there, but like comparatively to Dude, I've dealt with arterial wounds before and oh my god, dude. I don't think they think >> Danks Danks knows Danks D has a story about about like someone saw someone lose blood that's that's similar everybody like I've always heard people just so like you don't even like I never thought that that much blood was even inside of a human >> that's that's not Gau homie that's a solid piece of that's a solid object you can see like something is frayed up here but there is it does look like blood on it >> looks like blood on it >> but that's not No that's not gauze that's some type of hard piece piece of plastic or charred battery of some sort. How would >> Should we say fluid instead of blood so we don't get our how would there be like let's say that it was fluid too that like how would that be on that piece >> you know what I mean like uh >> because that was on his chest >> but did he have a chest wound >> just what Baron showed >> just from just from what so there's a little bit right a little bit of fluid but I mean nowhere near what you would expect from >> Yeah. >> what we saw cuz look there's none down here on the floor. >> There's none on the ground. >> Little bit little bit on the scene where he was but I mean he was also he also had it all over his body already. Right.

>> On the platform below him too. >> Yeah. So >> there's very little on his body either. Like he's got a white shirt on and it's like dude there's not very much blood on him if like at all. >> Fluid Jesse. Fluid. >> Fluid. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Uh mud. There's not very much mud on him. Not very much mud on him. But there's fluid on the security guards, too, when they're carrying him out. So, there was some dude got that.

>> Can we show that? Can we show the footage of him being carried? >> I I wouldn't. >> No, it's gotten demonetized. >> I haven't I get demonetized. >> Okay, we won't mess with that then. >> I do have a couple of things. >> Yeah, go ahead, Digs. >> I do have a couple of things about the SUV itself. So >> there were people. So yesterday I did a live stream and I ended up getting the car report of what's been going on with the VIN number. >> Carfax. >> Um it's it's well it's beyond a Carfax. It's also it's called a first I did VIN verified which is something you would use for like social security and background checks but you can run VIN numbers on them. I'm going to share my screen here. And I also have a picture from a source that sent me that works within a government agency. They ran the VIN number. So, this is the VIN number of the vehicle. This is um this is basically the same vehicle that they've been showing with the same VIN number. It's the same vehicle in general.

>> You guys want to You guys want to real quick, Danks, you want to hear something weird? >> Go ahead. This is like the exact make and model that we always get in special operations whenever we rent vehicles for exercises. This Yukon >> Denali Xenol. >> I'm just saying I'm not I'm not one that's big on the military angle here, but that's kind of weird. Sorry.

>> Yeah. And what's interesting though is this is actually So I checked three sites. Uh and this is from Georgia. So they were actually putting this up for auction and it went out to other places in Georgia and in uh another country Bar there was a listing auction that the was transported. >> Yeah, there we were looking on my live stream. >> They was it I had to convert it to English. It was showing up in like this uh Russian type language.

>> So this what were they trying to sell? Why would somebody else want to buy it from Utah? This car, this original listing was in Georgian. I had converted it when I bought it. So, I bought this cuz it had more information than the Ben Verified. The Benified was similar across all the other two. So, I was like, "Well, let me try this one." And it was much more detailed. What's funny is I ran through the information and it sold.

>> It sold for 6200. >> It sold. Yeah. For 62,000. What a destroyed interior Denali. >> Yeah. So, the interior >> 62K 3,400 miles. There was actually like 50 miles put on it um after that cuz the registration was it was it 2025? >> 2025. >> It was December 15th. Yeah.

>> Nobody would pay that much for that. >> So, they listed it for like 5K and then 8. >> That's $100,000 car. >> That's $110,000 vehicle. It kept going up and then it went >> not after that. What just happened before? This is before. This is December 2025.

>> Oh. Oh, my bad. Sorry. I thought December 2025 after >> No, it is. That's after September of 2025. >> Yes. >> Oh, it was. >> Yeah. >> What? >> Yeah. So, it went through the >> Wait, what? >> But that's I mean, dude, that's a that's a 110 110 $117,000 vehicle, brand new, and it's a >> seat removed though. Yeah, maybe when it was brand new. It's actually So, what's interesting about this is they it it was salvage title in Utah and then they register in California under clean title and the last time it was tracked it did an oil change in Palm Desert at Jessups, which >> how did you how and how did you find it, Danks? You >> I ran I I ran this and then the other two uh through my AI and it came out. Look, it it's got right here. California section >> um >> Uncle BB >> California Motor Vehicle. So December 30th, the title was >> in Elcohone, California, and then the lean was reported dealer listing January 14th went up for dealer and it was in dealer inventory and then it was last serviced 9,000 miles at Jessup Cathedral City, which is close to Palm Desert where Jesse was just talking about. uh which is close to me.

>> That's so weird, dude. >> That vehicle now. Okay, so now I told you that then during the live stream someone sent me this photo and they said that the vehicle is sitting they know based off of government sourcing that the vehicle itself is sitting in a different location here. Let me pull this picture.

>> My goodness. Whose viewer is that smoke? I think I know, right? There we go. It >> has to be a auto AI picture. >> Well, that this is true. >> Okay. You know what, dude? That is not as good as I thought. The 20 like a uh Oh, wait. Is that a Denali? >> Never mind. I'm sorry. The Yukon XL is on CNN 2025 is 74, but that was a it's a Denali, right? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's my that's my point, dude. No one's buying that for 65,000 after what happened to it. They'd have to rip all the interior out. They'd have to [ __ ] completely fix vehicle. They drive away. Remember, >> I was I was pricing this wrong. I was pricing this like like like it's an Escalade. This actually prices like an uh like a uh Expedition, like a Ford Expedition is like the same this cuz like a brand new uh right now >> uh 2026 GMC Yukon XL is 89. So after that [ __ ] happened to it and it's got and it's an and it's a last year 62 is reasonable I think.

>> So this person right here >> title also >> Yeah. It got a salvage title in Utah, but then they gave it a they gave it a clean title in the state of California, >> but they bought it with the savage tout title. Correct. >> They did. Yes. Yes. >> For 62,000 with no seats. >> And right now, this person told me uh it got sold through insurance auction. That's why it's got the salvage title. All they had to do is either fix it or take it to the highway patrol for inspection. They can get another title.

>> That doesn't happen. It's sitting at a different location under uh investigation. Government hold. That's what >> 2026 Yukon is 102 brand new. >> So, >> I'm shopping for cars now, guys. >> It says it says a salvage title cannot become a truly clean title. Once branded, the vehicle's total lost history is permanently tied to its VIN.

>> That's what I was thinking. should be >> you can you can convert it to a a rebuilt or prior salvage, but it never becomes a clean title. >> So that's that's sketchy if it's a clean title. >> So according to Zack Costello, he said he had somebody look into it and ask why is it not showing Savage title? He said they actually changed it recently and said and it's now presently saying Savage title. That's what Zack Cetto said. So, I don't know.

>> A lot of weird stuff with the chain of custody of that vehicle as well. >> Just like But I mean, the thing is, man, you just >> by itself, you're like, >> why even get rid of it anyways? You right. >> You're getting rid of a crime part of a crime scene. >> Exactly. To >> And it went to California from Utah. That's about $1,000 just to get it transported. And it has no damn seats. >> I think it was three grand. >> We'll let We'll let Jesse answer this one at the end. Do I still think Charlie is alive? 100. Yes, I do.

>> There you go. All right. Uh, but anyway, like danks, what you're just explaining by itself, that story about the SUV, you'd be like, that's [ __ ] weird. But, you know, >> but then when you add it to the 150 other [ __ ] weird things about this case, >> right? >> That's the thing. There's no oneoffs here. It's like, oh, well, that's kind of weird about this or that's kind of weird about this. Like there's a hundred 200 different things that we could we I mean that we could go through to be like none of this makes sense. This doesn't make sense. Why? We haven't even talked about like the fact that the FBI and Cash Patel just happened to shut down Joe Kent and the you know National Counterterrorism Center and the CIA both from investigating foreign ties into this as well >> which is insanity. >> Why? Why? Why would you do that? don't you're covering up your own involvement is the only reasonable answer I can think of or I mean devil's advocate they're trying to protect their case but you are only responsible for domestic crime >> you can't see they're not supposed to investigate international involvement no matter what and even if they had like oh Tyler Robinson admitted to it y'all well cool did anyone talk to him through his computer and and activate him maybe from another country like how would you not have a a political assassination of this size like how would you not investigate that >> you 100% would investigate potential foreign ties.

>> Even if it's not even if it's not our greatest ally, even if it's China, if it's Russia, if it's Iran, like you'd want to know, hey, was this a foreignbased assassination of one of the most prominent, you know, mouths mouthpieces in the United States in the political arena. You would want >> literally the president of the United States most valuable >> like populist asset in his entire administration probably. >> Yeah. >> It is very weird that nobody's turning over stones to figure it out. It feels like they and and to be able to just say we've got them. Once they say we've got them and they're handed over to the court, there's no more investigation, ladies and gentlemen. There's no more investigation. That investigation's over. So whatever we're doing online, that's all that's left besides the court case. And what happens after court cases go unsolved? Almost nothing usually.

>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> This is another one that's very important. You see people all the time be like, "Ah, 140 meter shot." And I and I have shot people under duress. I probably shouldn't say that the way I said it. I may have done those things under pistol with a air pistol. >> Well, you guys know my back. Everybody resume, right? Like you're not surprised to hear that. But my point is >> potato gun >> and shooting under duress is incredibly different than doing it flat at the range with no stress, no pressure. Now we're talking about a situation where this kid is 22. He's he's not conditioned to this a it's not like he's some Navy Seal or Green Beret. He goes in, he's taking the most crazy shot he's ever taken in his life and he's got to do it under this insane amount of stress and duress. He also knows most likely the second that he lets that trigger off, he might get canoed in the head, right? Like that's most likely case course of action. You assume as soon as I pull this trigger, I'm dead.

>> And when you factor all those things in, that's not >> the easy to to a a potentially moving target that's speaking with a microphone doing this. Not the easiest not the easiest shot in the world. You know what I mean? I think that uh I think that got written off really early of like, oh, it's only it's 140 meters with a long gun. That makes it super easy. It's like >> I just >> And he's like a 20 year he's like a 20-year-old kid that >> has no training also as far as we know. >> Well, you don't know that either. Like you don't know he has no training, >> right? >> Well, I know he has no professional level like when we're talking he's he may have firearms training at a range learning how to shoot, but I know he doesn't have any high level tactical training that would indoctrinate him and you know uh uh what's the word I'm looking for? uh stress inoculate him to be able to do this at the level >> how long is boot camp how long is boot camp and training like initial training for green berets >> initial training for a green beret two years >> okay so you're saying he couldn't have trained with someone for two years from like 18 to 20 or 20 to 22 or whatever and had the same amount of you know efficiency if he was like government trained or something allegedly 100% because the first gunfight I was in I had no [ __ ] clue what was going on I was so overwhelmed and stressed because it's the most insane situation you'll ever be in.

>> So, no, I don't believe that he had that training. >> Yeah. >> Even if we're playing devil's advocate, no. >> Yeah. So, I want to correct. I have like 30 people on chat that are saying, including researcher Daisy. >> She says that vehicle was sold with a salvage junk auction with a clean title. >> So, the title was clean >> according to several people. >> Okay. So, >> guys, I got I got to jump though. I got to go. I gota go. Happy 4th of July to everybody. Happy uh birthday to America 250.

>> All right, let's uh >> Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna probably This has [ __ ] been great. We should have left ourselves more time. Uh >> yeah, >> let's uh let's do it again for sure. >> Yeah. >> No, this has this has been good. We've gotten through we gotten through most of the start to finish of everything that's happened. You know what I mean? Um beyond this, we're starting to get into like different theories and things like that. Uh, wrapping it up, like wrapping it up before we hit some super chats. I don't know who's or who's, but we'll try to like plow through those because I don't want to leave those unattended. Uh, what do we >> Are you guys available tomorrow or Sunday for the part two before we go live on Monday for court? >> Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, we can do it. >> I could Sunday. Yeah. Yeah, >> Sunday's ideal for me, too. >> Yeah, let's do that. >> Let's do that, guys. We'll uh so to the chat, we'll we'll pause this discussion here. Uh, because I mean, we do have more to get through. I don't want before Monday, >> right? >> Uh, but this has been an awesome one. If you guys I mean I'm assuming we got super chats for everybody here. You guys want to just blow through the super chats and then >> That's cool. Y >> and call it good. >> I don't know who's or whose. So we're just uh >> let's run it. >> Everybody say part two in the chat if you want to see part two. >> Part two in the chat. >> I think Yeah, I think this is a good one. Uh, all right. Uh BB's just a day BB I hate saying the last name on the channel. just a day after Kirk died said it wasn't us. He said it the same day, didn't he? >> The same day. Yeah. >> Yeah, I think he said it the same day. Is like the same. >> Him and Victor Marks both said it almost almost at the same time. >> Consider responding. >> Well, no. Well, BB res he first showed his condolences. Then he came out. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Okay. That's right. He showed his condolences. Didn't he do it at the exact one same minute time stamp as Trump? >> As Trump. Yeah. >> Like one minute away. Something like that. Couple one or two at the most. Uh, DNA depends on environment and it was just an hour or two after the feds, not the bomb dogs found it. Bulocks. It's all BS. I don't know enough about DNA. You guys might know more. >> Yeah, that's correct. Like UV and stuff degrades it faster, but it can be out it can be out for years >> in perfect >> uh DNA evidence is not the end all beall. This is I know this is uh true in core cases. The proof of DNA evidence means nothing and the lack of DNA evidence also means nothing. If you run DNA through a PCR machine long enough, you will get your man every time. That's a That's a good point. >> What's a CR? >> I'm assuming that's >> it runs in multiple cycles and looks for certain things, certain proteins and stuff as it goes through. And if you run it enough times, eventually it will have enough >> it'll match it'll match your just like the COVID stuff, you know, the PCR test for >> CO. Yeah. Okay. >> Backpack like a GTA in uh no clear videos or photos of Tyler in 4K at UVU. >> We got what we got. So far, >> right, guys? Is there I mean, I'm hoping >> we got video of him being in a car also, but it's not in 4K. It's not It's not clear. >> We should expect >> There's no evidence. I don't I don't even think he was there on property. I could be wrong. Maybe he was, but >> I think a lot of people are moving towards >> I don't think he was on the roof at least. >> Someone was on the roof. >> The >> We don't know that necessarily that's him. I don't think >> AI of a person on the roof though. >> That's true. That's actually true. >> We don't know what they're going to show from his phone. So, we got to just wait. See what the prosecution puts up, I guess. >> Yeah. Uh, Jesse, sorry. Sorry, guys. Jesse's out of here. Scope looks like it was setting her sideways. Scope's pretty [ __ ] up. Uh, Jan says, "Nate, I don't know how you feel about Candace Owens." I think Candace is great. Uh, but she's very thorough with her investigations. You should check her investigation on this. Well, I mean, I've been follow I've been following it for the last nine months. So, I'm uh I think everybody likes Candace here. So, uh, in our group at least. I'm not I don't want to put my I don't want to speak for you guys, but >> Oh, yeah. I love I [ __ ] with Candace. I love Candace. >> Yeah. Shout out to Candace, man. She's doing >> when she she she was she was in a relationship space. So So yeah, I love Candace. >> Uh Charlie Kirk is JD Vance. >> You know, I was saying it's like out of all the people that know Charlie, it's she's the only one that really seems to give a [ __ ] It's crazy >> that really cares. Yeah, >> it's kind of sad. Isn't that, dude? Doesn't that like make you kind of like make your skin crawl a little bit when you see all of his friends that were just immediately like, >> "Yep, this is the truth. Don't say [ __ ] don't ask any goddamn questions. Shut your mouth and you're good." >> Charlie to a certain degree in their minds denied him, denied them of an opportunity to make more money or get more money because Charlie Kirk started going against the grain. So there's there may be a certain amount of resentment towards >> Charlie from the friends because just imagine if somebody was about to like pay all of us a whole bunch of money and one of us was like you know what >> I don't like this >> I have a moral obligation >> going and then that person was to get you know took out of here you would be like damn that's my guy >> but now we can >> I don't know man I don't think any amount of money can buy them all Ow. There's something else going on. It just >> I think you're right. I think you're right, Danks. I don't think it's what >> one person even a billion. >> They were though. >> To have someone working together. >> Some people won't trade uh souls for money, bro. They won't. >> Yeah. And that's why I personally see why Candice is the way she is versus the other people. I don't think they were really close to Charlie like that. They were just co-workers. >> Some of them. Yeah. For sure. I think a lot of these influencers that say they were so close to Charlie were probably like >> I think they were just coworkers >> connected through social media and things like that. >> And because you know Charlie now is like, "Oh, Charlie was my best friend in order to get views." >> Yeah. >> Hey, just real quick. I just want to say something really quick. I know we're doing supers and everything, but I just want to say this. There are so many people that have been involved in research and sharing information behind the scenes and digging into everything everywhere. People you will never see.

>> Yeah. Yeah, >> they maybe they don't want to be seen, but a lot of people that started to come to light, you know, you have like M and researcher Daisy and all these people Ali top files there. There's like 50 different people. I I can't name them all, but I just want to say like thanks to everyone who's been looking into this. Whatever the end result is, that hard work and everything is is appreciated in the community.

>> So much, Matt. And to your point, I mean, from all the different people that have done ballistics testing, all the different people that have dug into the court side of things, >> it it's it's almost like everything the FBI should have been doing. Yes. >> And you know what's what's crazy is I I would hope that the uh defense would review, but it's like they already got hella terabytes or whatever 200 to study over there. It's like now they're going to >> study all the bus. I don't know, man. It's I hope they come to some conclusion, but it's going to be >> I don't know. I'm I'm I'm very interested to see what happens. >> This this evidence is going to be interesting. Bobby says, "Wouldn't the photo of the weapon also includes a towel they found in it?" You would expect they wouldn't [ __ ] with the evidence and take it out of the towel. They would have opened the towel and taken a picture of it. But, >> right, that's what I was thinking with the towel. Like, what's up with the towel?

>> I don't know. But that's what we were told. Uh, he tells Lover Lance that reckons granddad's gun does pretty good meaning the first time shooting this particular rifle. >> Another point, no no practice cuz he had to steal the rifle. >> No. From what I've heard though, that's actually something we were misled on. He did not steal it from grandpappy's basement. It was actually gifted to him by his father.

>> Yeah. >> Which would make sense. The rifle that's like my my 230 Y sixes were gifted to me by my dad and they used to be my grandpa's rifles, right? They get passed down through the family to usually the oldest son is typically how that works.

>> Um, so that's as far as I know, right? I that was gifted that I'm pretty sure we've learned that that was not stolen from Grand Papy. Um, but again, [ __ ] who knows? >> I'm pretty sure. Yeah, it's like a family gun, I thought. >> Yeah. Heirloom or like heirloom type gun that was passed down >> like passed down, but it was central held at a place where they could all get it if they want, >> which could also explain multiple DNA as well. >> And now I don't know actually. I don't know if it was at Tyler and Lance's >> Yeah. Yeah. Not sure where it was, but that's as far as I understand. He didn't go to his grandpa's house and steal it out of the basement. Uh Tyler's text, grandpa knows, wants to know who has what. The feds released a photo of the rifle. It's very unique. Again, as far as we know, according to uh Baron, right, that his parents did not turn him in. Don't his parents also believe he's innocent? >> Yes, >> that's what we've heard recently. >> They just came out and said that. Project Constitution said that.

>> Uh, all right, Joe says exactly 100. kid would have screwed up zeroing during assembly. It didn't. It would or won't work as required. Just saying this ain't the weapon. I mean, Matt, have you ever slapped a scope on a rifle and tried to shoot it without zeroing it at all? >> Never. >> You I mean, you've definitely like Right. You've tried it before, right? >> Well, well, I mean, when when you zero it, you are shooting it unzeroed, so technically. Yes. >> And how often is it like sometimes it's like eight Sometimes it's not on paper. >> Exactly. Yeah. and you're like, "Oh [ __ ] I need to bring this in to like, you know, 10 meters to at least get it on paper to figure out where the hell this is even." Now, you back that up to 140 m on a rifle that's potentially not zeroed at all. That shot could have been 10 feet off. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? >> Yeah. >> I mean, there's people that miss at 100 because most people, you know, they'll zero to 100 yards with most rifles, most hunting rifles. >> That's what I mean. You got to you got to go up to 25 and do like a 100 meter a simplified 100 meter zero because you can't even hit the paper from there because it's not it's not 100%.

>> Uh Charlie Kirk, we got this one already. You guys You didn't see that one already. >> I think the funnier one is uh JD Vance and Erica Kirk being uh Michael Aino's kid. Have you seen that one? >> Yeah, Michael Aino's kid. Yeah. Yeah, they're >> actually They actually have the same face. >> Exactly the same. >> It looks exactly the same. Yeah. I was talking about JD Vance looking like Michael Aino like five months ago on my show when I was talking about Michael because he was a Green Beret, right? So I'm like this [ __ ] weird and let me and then I was like god he looks exactly like JD Van. >> Yeah. >> But anyway, uh uh how would Oh, so I was going to just ask you guys this and this is why this is cool. How would Charlie Kirk act based on today? Do we know he wouldn't have supported Tucker and Candace? I was literally going to ask you guys, do you think let's say Charlie

was still alive, and we've seen this massive split based off the Epstein files in the round war. Would Charlie have been a Thomas Massie style denter like the rest of us, or would he have cucked for the administration?

"He would have cucked."

"You think I— He was against, he was against a lot of stuff Trump did, and he still said, 'You know what? I, I back Trump. I'm a Trump guy.'"

"He still love Trump."

"I agree. He love Trump. He just—"

"I hate to say that. I hate to say that because I wish he would have been a Tucker or Candace style, but I don't think he would have."

"Yeah."

"I don't know with the people around him. I don't think—"

"For Trump."

"Uh, it was me. I confessed. He's a 458 Win Mag with a 100-grain bullet made out of dry ice. Yeah, I mean, that might have left—that might have been the correct wound."

"I researched. There was over a hundred people that confessed to the shooting at Charlie."

"Really? Wait, what?"

"Yeah, that happened cases. Yeah."

"That's pretty common in high-profile murders."

"Very common."

"It is. Yeah."

"Why?"

"They want to be famous."

"Yeah. They want to be famous or just three hots and a cot. I don't know."

"Yep. Yep."

"Yo."

"Uh, if Murdoch is in the New York Post, or is the New York Post, uh, that reported, and Trump is close with Fox News, also Murdoch. True. And then it's Trump. And also keep in mind, Murdoch is very close with Bibi Netanyahu and our greatest ally. So there's that. Speaking of which, uh, Benjamin Netanyahu, friend of the show, says they actually got Kirk with a P320."

"Yeah. Oh my god. It was Charlie Kirk's holstered P320 that got him."

"That's a good sick joke. Uh, thanks, guys, for all the updates, uh, and the work you do. Hey, Jesse. Well, Jesse's gone, but he'd appreciate it. Thomas Massie's still in office if Charlie was alive, but we just talked about this. Would he have turned on Massie? Do you think he would have?"

"I mean, he probably would have."

"I think I—"

"He would have had to."

"I think he would have. He, yeah. Well, he got to make a decision."

"When you pick a side, you have to pick the side."

"Yeah. God, I hope not. And I, I, I hope not, but I think you guys are probably right."

"Uh, so an F-15 Eagle got shot down in Iran by jellyfish-shaped drone swarms. I was going to do a story on this, and then I just didn't get around to it. As a JTAC, somebody that's very familiar with all the munitions that all these planes use, I, I'm not saying that this didn't happen. I'm just saying that this is not anything I know exists. So, whatever this thing is, it's not something I'm aware of. Again, not saying that it didn't happen. Did I tell you guys the— Did I get tell you guys? I found about—found out about this right when it happened, but I wasn't allowed to tell people because I got told from the ground about the, uh, the pilot who got shot down in Iran. The, the not the WSO, not the gunner, but the actual pilot. He was also the same pilot that got shot down in Kuwait."

"Yeah. Same pilot got shot. Both F-15s. Yeah. F-15s."

"Bad luck."

"Oh, real quick, real quick. I just want you to remember, uh, when we talk about the loyalty of Charlie Kirk and—"

"You got to remember this. Charlie Kirk may have went to prison if Trump wasn't elected."

"Trump wasn't elected. So you got to remember that. That is his actual loyalty. So he saved Charlie from going to prison. So you got to think about that too. So he would have been loyal because of that, in particular."

"Forever loyal."

"Fair, actually."

"Yeah, forever loyal. Yeah."

"It's a pretty fair point."

"Uh, Bibi again says, 'I supplied all the mics in the courtroom in case something goes off script.'"

"Holy [ __ ] bro."

"I don't know whose that is, but—"

"That's—"

"Hey, Amy. What's up?"

"Uh, says, 'This is one of your guys that says he probably wouldn't get to trial until mid-2027 at least. Are we all staying friends till then? Do you guys think it'll take that long after the pre-hearing?'"

"Shouldn't."

"Uh, she wants a speedy trial."

"The Diddy case lasted for two years, I think. When did the prelim?"

"Yeah, but from the actual start of the trial, it wasn't that long. Like the trial itself, trial until mid—"

"No, you're right. You're right. It was."

"Do you think it could be a year from now? I don't think so. I think—"

"I don't think so. With the pre—with the pre-hearing and the evidence trial, I think it'll be—it should—once they wrap this up, they should—they're going to decide if this goes to trial or not."

"They're going to—"

"I think it'll be, I think it'll be around a year."

"What, what are they, what are they going to do from then? This, like, they've already done all of the pre-trial and the pre-hearings other than the evidence."

"Well, they have to let the defense review all of the, uh, the evidence data. They can keep pushing it back and pushing it back. Push jury selection, all that. Melo Anthony case. Uh, that was a pretty small case, and that lasted for two years."

"God damn. Let's hope not, man."

"So—"

"I know they've been trying to push for a speedy trial, both sides. So, well, not the defense as much, but—"

"Diddy was in, Diddy was in jail for two years, you know, before, you know. So, yeah, it can happen."

"This is interesting. Let's see. Do I have the— Oh, one of, I think one of you guys shared the picture of the rifle."

"Did you notice the picture?"

"I'll have to, I'll have to re-look at it. I'm not sure where—"

"I don't have it pulled up anywhere."

"Yeah, I did. I covered this in my video as well, but there's aftermarket, there's aftermarket ones that look similar that go past 90 degrees. So, if you look at the side of it, it's at 90 degrees. That'd be like the factory one. That one would hit the scope, but they have aftermarket ones that are on that side that go past 90 degrees, like down at an angle. And those can actually just be flipped up and down on just the right side and not even hit the scope. So technically, if it's an aftermarket, uh, aftermarket, uh, safety, just like there's aftermarket stock and 30-06 conversion, it's not, you know, it's not out of question that he can flip it upside."

"Yeah."

"Okay. Yeah. All right. That's, that's important stuff to know, right? Like, if you can, if you can show that things are possible, that's good to know, too. Uh, Sixth Amendment guarantees a defendant the right to confront and cross-examine witnesses against them. Granting immunity to a witness does not waive the constitutional right. Lance can't hide."

"Well, keep in mind, hold on, though. Immunity is not saying that he does not have to attend the trial or have to go up and face crossing examination. What immunity is is that he cannot be charged for a crime based off of the things he says during that deposition."

"Right. So if Lance, if Lance Twigs has full immunity and he gets up there on the trial and he goes, 'I killed, I killed Charlie Kirk,' the trial's over and Lance Twigs doesn't go to jail. So that's how immunity works. It's not, it's immunity is not like he doesn't have to show up to trial because he has immunity. That's not—"

"Well, it's his, the immunity that he has called limited use immunity. So it's—"

"For this one. Yeah."

"For, yeah. Just for what he's telling the, whatever he's presenting, but other than that, outside of what he's presenting, he could be held criminally liable for something."

"I'm saying if you were given full immunity as a witness, which he has not been, right? I'm just saying like hypothetically, if he were to get full immunity, he couldn't. He still has to potentially be called. He could still get subpoenaed. He just wouldn't be able to be tried for potentially something that he said went on the stand. It's typically how actual immunity works. But he doesn't have that, right?"

"Right. Correct. Correct. Yes, you're correct."

"Uh, look up PTFN explosion. Is that what that is? Against bulletproof glass and here, and you will find two men putting a PTFN explosion charge on bulletproof glass. Sounds the same as gunshot that day and brings up deer. Oh."

"Are you talking about petting? Is that what we're talking about here?"

"Yes. Yep."

"Okay. Uh, I mean, that's outside my wheelhouse even here. I'm going to take your word for it. You five are hip to be, are hip to be square."

"I remember that song."

"Crowd of y'all. Thank you. Uh, wouldn't showing the judge the pic of the rifle pointing the safety out and it can't fire?"

"Well, Matt just, uh, Matt just explained that one away. So."

"Yep. And I've seen, I've seen the actual safety on available online and everything. So."

"There you go. Tyler Robinson, friend of the show. Well, I mean, not really, but—"

"Thanks, Bibi. Uh, someone on the left knows only a little about farms. I appreciate your guys' analysis."

"Well, I'm glad that we can provide a little insight. Uh, thank you. Oh, here we go. They planted the fragment in his neck. I truly believe that is why Frank had blood on him also and why the stories didn't match."

"I mean, here's the thing. If everybody's in on it, and the medical examiner is in on it, you don't even need to plant anything, right? And actually, like, trying to plant something in the neck, the medical examiner is going to get in there, look at that, and be like, 'What the [ __ ] is this? Why did you guys shove something in the wound?'"

"It won't look natural."

"Yeah."

"Yeah. So—"

"What was the thing on his back? We, we can talk about that in part two."

"The blowout. Yeah, we could, we could go to part two and talk about that then, if you want to. But—"

"I, according to me and Devrew operator Rob O'Neill and a bunch of special operators, we don't [ __ ] know as it comes to a bullet."

"A lot of us have looked at that and gone—"

"Pretty weird. What? The thing that was on his back is the thing that boggles me the most as far as setting, you know, this being some type of purposeful setup or something."

"What are you talking about? The actual, like, how his shirt blows out."

"Yeah, it was something on his back because it was a cord that came out. I can show you guys that show it here."

"Huh?"

"I think that's his necklace that comes off."

"No, no, no. It was actually a cord. I can show it to y'all in in a group chat."

"Yeah. I mean, I've, I've like done that frame by frame by frame in videos, whether it's a necklace or a cord."

"I don't know. As for a gunshot to the neck, you wouldn't expect any of that to happen. As potentially, and I guess that's what, even though it's not my theory, it pushes me a little bit more towards potentially some type of explosive is—"

"That's actually what you would potentially see from an explosive underneath the shirt is that type of blowing force that actually would do something like that due to the actual like seismic shock that's come off that explosive that you would expect to see there. As for a gunshot wound, a 30-06 shot to the neck—"

"Right?"

"Why is that going to blow his shirt six inches off?"

"Why would the back of his shirt blow up and where it is? It, I can show you guys. It's actually a, a wire or a cord, and it's not a necklace. I can show you guys later."

"Uh, again, I don't know. Matt, any ideas? I mean—"

"With everything we've looked at—"

"Yeah. With everything I've looked at, and we've gone over a million times."

"Maybe the cavitation in the neck."

"Yeah. Yeah. So, so the thing going on the back, um, some people think it's cavitation, but typically the cavitation goes perpendicular to the direction of the bullet."

"So, you would expect, you expect like, you basically, you expect to go up and down, not to the side."

"Be this way."

"Yeah. So, so that's weird. And then if it was, you know, an event in the front from the road mic—"

"Mhm."

"—you would typically expect anything to blow out the back unless it was like a piece of shrapnel or something. And why would it curve around the soft shirt and then hit the back? You know what I mean?"

"It makes no sense. Yeah, it's very strange."

"It looks pointy. It looks pointy, too. You know what I mean? It's like—"

"It's, it's what's so crazy about that. I was actually going back through my stuff looking for stuff for this episode, and I came across me and Gary's episode like four days after the shooting where we sat down, went over this, and we were trying to figure it out. We were looking at the shirt, right? The shirt [ __ ] raising up bizarrely, the blowout in the back. And that's why we were both like, 'Is this a [ __ ] Is it body armor? Like, what the hell is going on here?' Because this is not normal. And that was before, like, this was before, like, like controversies, like everything, right? When we're just looking at this completely vanilla, everybody was just like—"

"None of this makes sense for a gunshot."

"You know."

"That was well before anybody even had mentioned explosives. So, uh, we did this one already. We did this one already."

"I don't understand the engraving. What? Why are we engraving bullets, guys? Is this like a— It seems like every, every trans bullets—"

"Engraves bullets. Is this like—"

"I don't think he was shot. So the whole bullet thing to me is null and void. So the engraving of the bullet actually just makes it look like he was shot, and he wasn't shot."

"All right, I gotta start blowing through these. I got about, I got about 17 minutes to get to the rodeo. All right. Uh, how can we believe the government? The Melo Examiner could have been paid off. Sorry, I don't believe anything they put out. I don't believe the government on anything. I worked for the government for a long time, so I don't know what your guys' thoughts, but—"

"I'm right there with you."

"Uh, seems that the rifle was fired, the dogs would have found it. Yes, they would have. I can tell you, having worked very closely with bomb dogs and army special forces on every combat operation I've ever been on, they are incredible. And yes—"

"They didn't allow dogs on the site, though."

"Uh, the FBI did, or excuse me, the sheriff's department, not on site. The sheriff's department used them to try to find the rifle in the surrounding area, but not—"

"Could not find it."

"Near the tent."

"No, they weren't looking like, or whatever. Okay, gotcha."

"No, no, no. I don't, I don't know if the dogs looked, smelled in the, uh, I'm just—"

"Right. Right. Because I think that's why they paved over everything. Dog. No, no dogs."

"Could be."

"Yeah."

"Uh, there's no reason why they should have done it. Came out from the governor and the FBI office that it all needs to be done. This is the, uh, talking about paving over. Uh, they had to dig the ground away to hide fake blood and make sure there wasn't any gunpowder residue on the soil or if this was like some type of explosive. Maybe dude had to call in friends to make it happen."

"Yeah. I mean, I think, uh, paving over, I don't know what you guys think, but I think paving over the area makes way more sense if there was some type of explosive that went off."

"Yeah."

"Yeah. Yeah."

"Yeah."

"Or as like, why you need to, uh, could the defense foyer paver permits the defense? Yeah, the defense could foyer anything they want, right, in a murder trial. So, they absolutely could."

"You and I could try, but anybody can foyer anything, guys. Whether they give you those documents or not, you never know."

"And in time—"

"Xcount claimed OSHA required cleanup for ED facilities. Okay, for the mods, thank you, Christie. Uh, sup dudes. Happy Fourth. Hold on to your sacks. Thank you."

"Danks. Oh, Danks gifted five memberships."

"I did my, uh, to some of the people in the chat."

"Oh, there's a membership."

"Shout out to you."

"You can, you can gift members to your own—"

"Actually, they give us, they give us some free ones every month. They, I have like 10 saved up. Yeah."

"How the heck click in your— If you go in your studio right now, you should be able to get some memberships. But you got to go in the actual live studio on YouTube and—"

"Yeah. And then you click like the plus sign like you're gonna, uh, give a super chat or something like that. Let me see. Where am I at? Let me go to it and show you. So you don't—"

"Yeah. Where it shows the plus sign and then it says, uh—"

"I had no idea."

"Not the plus sign."

"Sorry. The, uh, dollar sign and it says membership gifting."

"Oh, dollar sign."

"Membership gifting."

"Yeah."

"Oh, it's every month."

"Yeah, I think it refreshes every month. I, I screwed my fans because I could have done, I could have been doing this. We missed out on like [ __ ] a hundred of these."

"Yeah, I noticed this like two months ago."

"Genius world."

"I got five more. There we go. All right. I gifted—"

"I spilled the beans here just to tell you guys."

"Oh, damn. Danks. I was hoping that they accumulated. I was hoping I was going to have like 200 of them, but no, it's, they roll over each month. Sorry. Sorry, chat."

"Sorry, chat. Well, thank you to Danks for that because somehow—"

"You might have more because I have less subs, you know. So—"

"Uh, no, I have to pay for them from there on, but okay. I didn't know I could. That's cool, though. I can actually, uh, pay to give subs to my own members. Okay. I kind of like—"

"That's awesome. That's cool."

"All right. Well, thanks. Thanks. I learned something new today, guys. Jose, on his question, the shot supposedly was taken from a roof. Uh, there is wood, technically the residue. Now, the pave, all that all but says the shot was not taken from the roof. Yes, Joe. I have no idea what you're saying here. Shot was supposed to be taken from the roof, but technically—"

"Oh, you mean residue on the roof? Yeah, there'd be gun—gunshot residue for sure on where you would expect underneath the barreling of the of the weapon if he didn't have some type of suppressor on. I don't know. Matt, did we get anything on that other than like—"

"No."

"Yeah, I didn't hear anything from that."

"Uh, the paving over is an issue. They're moving the dirt by someone other than the guy doing the paving is my concern."

"Yes, agreed."

"Mhm. Uh, do we have any proof Lance and Tyler were actually dating? And where's the proof? He was trans. Pic seems like 10 years old. Uh, the Turkey Tom video, I think, is worth a watch if you haven't watched it. You guys watch that?"

"No."

"Yes. It's really interesting, but some people think it was made up, contrived, everything."

"Dude, that would be a lot because he had like pictures and [ __ ]"

"Yeah. If you go to Baron's new clip channel, he has a clip, like a full explanation of what the turkey situation is. Baron Coleman clips. So, do we think that it was real or wasn't real? The person, what's, what do you know what the Baron has come to the conclusion of?"

"Yeah, his, he thinks that it, I mean, allegedly, I can't speak for him, but it seems to me that he thinks that the source is a fed."

"Like an actual fed makes everything way more interesting because it was so good."

"There was so much in that to where you're like, holy [ __ ] Right. That video, that video is what made me think or still believe that they're both involved. I believe they're MK Ultra paths, but that video is why I, I thought that they were at least involved, right? At like some low level, like maybe trying to help with the situation. But if that's just fed slop, they might not be involved at all."

"I mean, that, that was so early as well. It feels like that was some of the early planting of the narrative seeding for Lance Twigs, you know?"

"Yeah. Oh, man. I need to, I got to watch that one."

"Yeah. Uh, so my question is, uh, what was handed off right away when they all jump over the table? I believe the guy in the black shorts ran off quickly. I mean, they tried to say car keys, right? Isn't that what Brian Harpool said? The Shawn Ryan interview. It was car keys that were being handed off. Like when you see all that when they're supposed to be treating Charlie and they're handing [ __ ]"

"Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah."

"I think they tried to say it was car keys, but there's multiple things passed."

"Multiple things being passed around. Yeah."

"So, that's, uh, Jesse. Well, Jesse's not here. Uh, you need to about Eric Kirk. I'll text him. Uh, I'll text him and let him know that you, uh, say guys, I'll let him know that you, uh, that you're trying to get a hold of him. Uh, is an explosive MSAD pager? Well, I mean, not not a pager, but a road map."

"You believe Trump has gotten, he got gifted gold pager? How crazy."

"That's so, I can't believe they did that."

"And he loves it, too."

"I mean, I don't think he gets it. I don't think he actually even gets the threat."

"Oh, you don't? Really interesting."

"I mean, who knows, dude. Like, he might just think it's a gold pager."

"Look how cool this gold pager is. You know?"

"He's old. Like, he would have used a pager back in the day."

"Uh, question. When they brought in dogs to look for a weapon after, when they found the weapon, were the dogs previously in that same area? That's all these dogs do? Yeah. I mean, according to what we know, I can't confirm it. Uh—"

"According to Candace, the dog—"

"That's what the reporting says. And if you know from my source in the sheriff's department, they did see that they did sweep the area with dogs. He told me the same thing. So—"

"Not pictures of it."

"Yeah."

"He didn't tell me that they like couldn't find the rifle or anything like that, but he said they were searching the area with dogs. So, I know they were. Now, as for—"

"What the dogs did or did not find. That's, that's Candace's story."

"Oh, we're cooking. I'm almost there. Oh, wow. That's quite the outfit. You want to show everybody your outfit?"

"No, you're good. Come in here. She'll look at my wife's rodeo outfit. Come on in here. What are you doing? You look good. She's, she's looking pretty fancy."

"Oh, yeah. Dancing."

"All right."

"All right. We're cooking through these. All right. Uh—"

"People like your shirt, too, Nate."

"Thank you. Yeah, we're going to the rodeo tonight, guys. Uh, can someone's talked to the doctor? They said they didn't find bullet pieces, but white powder residue only if it was a bullet. It had to be fragmented bullet only. Which powder? Which rules the powder? Penton makes sense. Penton is just Pent, is not what you would use to as an explosive to try to kill somebody is the problem. Um, like you're not going to put Penton in a pager and like that's not, you're not going to see a directional blast that is pushing a fragment into his neck from some type of a Pent explosive. Penton's just going to blow up this way, right?"

"So I'm not sure about Penton. You know, I do like the shape charge. Uh, the John Bre shape charge theory, I think, is the one that I'm most, uh, intrigued by. As for like, that works with the wounds and everything, but, uh, as for actual explosive, you can't just put Penton in a pager and think that you're going to get that type of wound. That's not going to happen."

"The shape, directional shape charge without anything is most convincing to me, I think."

"Yep."

"Yeah. And I mean, that's a very common, it's an EFP, very common IED, large scale IED that we saw in Iraq. So you would just shrink that down a miniature size and you would have the same effect. And I mean, again, I did the episode with Matt and John Bray, and was very intrigued by by John's theory. I think it's the theory I'm most like lean towards outside of like a regular gunshot in my opinion. I don't know where you guys are at, but—"

"I mean, isn't that crazy? You can literally kill someone with just pressure and air and—"

"It's just so wild, man."

"Yeah. You can blow through a Bradley tank, dude."

"Yeah."

"Like straight through, like it's magma."

"Jeez."

"That's like—"

"There's an actual air gun. Oh, that's on the market."

"It's a real thing, dude. It's crazy. Those things go straight through tanks. It was like the nastiest IED, uh, in Iraq."

"Uh, James says, 'I want to know what inspired him to talk to his parents to turn himself in.' This is not true as far as I understand."

"Uh, what made him realize he was being set up and the new info and family says he didn't confess. Did it on 911 before media images. According to Baron and and new sources, uh, that I saw you guys talking about, as far as we know, the family didn't turn him in."

"No."

"And in fact, you know how we know the family didn't turn— I forgot about this. This was months ago. You know how we know the family didn't turn him in? Because the Utah, uh, the Utah head, the sheriff, the head sheriff came out in a press conference like four months ago, five months ago, and literally said the parents didn't turn him in. It was his friend, the former sheriff that recognized Tyler Robinson because he used to be not a boy scout leader, but like a church group leader, some sort, and he recognized Tyler from that, and he went over to the house to convince the family and convince Tyler to turn him in. That was the count. That was the same sheriff that resigned an hour after the ATF report came out."

"You guys know about that?"

"You guys don't know about that?"

"Some. Yeah. One of the craziest parts of this entire story."

"Hold on, repeat it again."

"The Utah County Sheriff, the head sheriff who came out and said he was like, one of the main sheriffs on the case. Yeah."

"He was one of the ones at the press conference six months ago."

"Sure. Baldhead guy or the guy with with the hat on?"

"Baldhead guy came out and said that it wasn't Tyler Robinson's family that turned him in. It was his, one of his, another sheriff that had retired that he had worked, like a friend of the family that they trusted, and they brought, because he was like a, a church group leader for Tyler or something, a pastor, and he recognized Tyler, and he went over to the house and convinced Tyler to turn himself in, otherwise the SWAT team was going to show up and kill him. Right."

"Yeah. He said option. He said that at a press conference, and that is the same sheriff who resigned from the sheriff's department one hour after the ATF report came out that said that the bullet couldn't conclusively, and people were like, and I pressed, uh, oh, when I debated Gary about this on Alex Jones, I asked him about that. I'm like, don't you think that's weird? And he was like, 'Well, no, that's just a coincidence.' Well, it might."

"Everything is a coincidence, right?"

"But it's a pretty bizarre coincidence that one hour after that report came out, he was like, 'Nah, dude. I'm out. I'm [ __ ] out, boys. I'm I'm done.' Sheriff."

"That's true. That happened, right? I mean, you can fact check that."

"Yeah. No, you're right."

"I, I did a whole video on it when that, when that came out."

"What, we looking at like five minutes?"

"Yeah. Yeah, probably about five minutes. Uh, we got to blow through these guys. Uh, we're just going to hit big ones from now. Sorry to everybody. Uh, Phil or Oregonian moved to Florida five years ago. Let's look into the, uh, trans thing. Not even sure. Uh, too much, too much of the T-word on this one. Uh, we got to hit these ones. I don't know who this is for. Omar Rosa. I don't remember this one. Maybe for one of you guys. The odds of being shot by a T-shooter at the exact moment Charlie was answering a question about a about two shootings is essentially zero. Just massage embedding jokes to make another mad laugh."

"Yes."

"It's pretty coincidental, right? Like—"

"Oh."

"—isn't that one? And the fact that he was shot in the throat. I know that was like all that at the very beginning. It was just kind, or maybe not shot in the throat, but the wound was to the throat."

"It's pretty weird."

"I think the throat part was inadvertent. I think something went wrong."

"But, uh, Musa, I'm not sure who that was to, but thank you very much for the generosity. Uh, Draw Latina, this is for one of you guys, too. Says, 'Kudos to Mr. LetGo.'"

"I'm seeing this for you. Uh, whom I remember was into some sort of the under the t-shirt explosion from the first week."

"Mhm."

"Wow."

"The, um, air actuated pellet, pellet discharger. I was thinking it was a air, uh, pellet something."

"There you go. Uh, tungsten iridium carbon alloy, weighted 2.25 to 2.5 grams, giving a mass comparable to standard 22 bullet. Density launched at supersonic subsonic speeds will penetrate but loses kinetic energy to exit. Now, I think the, uh, I think that's too big of an entrance wound for a 22 caliber, um, round myself from what I've seen, but who knows, right?"

"That looks like too big of an entrance wound for a 30-06. I mean—"

"It looks like too, it does look like too big of an entrance wound for 30-06. So, yeah, that's, that's, uh, that's a big problem, right? If, if this is the entrance wound, yeah, that's, that's not going to be a 22. You wouldn't ever, you basically not even be able to see the entrance wound of a 22 almost on camera from that far away. It'd be very, very hard to see. Uh, again, we'll just kind of, we'll get these as we, or we're talking. Uh, how in the world did we end up with a cross-eyed free shooter and a matching cross-eyed FBI director to go with him?"

"That's super funny actually."

"Funny."

"Cash Patel, friend of the channel. Yeah. Uh, it's a good-looking group of dedicated people. Thanks for all the you have done. Can't stop open. Thank you, Danielle. Appreciate you. We all know exactly what that is. I'm sure not sure what we're talking about here, Ryan. Thank you, though. I get back to a few of these. Uh, that SUV was purchased as a trophy."

"Did they know though? Did they know that's what they were buying?"

"Yeah, it was from California."

"Dang. Did they know that they were buying that vehicle based off of what you could tell from the, from the report?"

"I think that the pricing speaks for that. I think—"

"You're like, why is this Sukon Denali—"

"And they already tried to sell it for less than 10 grand twice, then over, and then over 20 grand twice, and then it just jumped up to 49, and then it bid it up all the way to 62."

"So, it was a crazy—"

"I can send you the file."

"That's crazy."

"Yeah, I got you."

"Oh, that's, that just makes things creepier. All right, Kevin with a big donation. Thank you. Uh, I can see mid Jeep corn on your glasses, Jesse. I think this is what—"

"Do you think short king? Oh, Jesse getting called a short king. He's not going to like that. Jesse's not that short, guys. Jesus. He might be the shortest one here, though."

"Uh, Britney, thank you for the big donation. Uh, says, 'I'll be in court Monday. This is going to be in fun.' Or, 'This is going to be fun. I don't know how they get a conviction on this kid.' Are you going to be at the trial? Is that what you're saying? That's completely set up. Maybe I should, uh, loan the judge my mouser and see how fast you can break it down. It feels down to pound like that's going to be crazy. If you're going to be in the trial, let me know. Reach out to me."

"There's a lot of people that are going to be there."

"I have. Yeah, I have had it hurt a few people. God, we should have done it. We should have gone there, dude. What were we thinking kind of—"

"Well, the court case, we plenty of time if they go—"

"Yeah. To the actual trial. Yeah, we should do that for the—"

"Unless it gets to some crazy scenario. If it's important enough, maybe last minute trip."

"Uh, insurance adjuster. Yes, you can take a salvage title in one state and get a clear title in in another state. Here we go. It's done frequently. You can also take two vehicles, make one out of it in a rebuild title, and then it get cleared in another state."

"Oh, I think it was under a rebuilt title."

"So, there you go."

"Um, I think, I'm not sure. I'll share the file with these guys."

"All right, we'll check that out on the next, on the next one. Uh, Drawatina again, big $50 donation. I think this was for Mr. LetGo last time. Said, uh, 'I am so thrilled that the five of you guys came together for this episode. It's nice to see the collaboration amongst smaller channels. Each has been given so much knowledge and important attention to this case with much gratitude.'"

"Oh, yeah. Guys, also, I should have said this at the beginning. Make sure you go subscribe to everybody that's here, all my audience. Make sure that you guys go subscribe to Matt and Danks and and Aaron. You probably already subscribe to Jesse, but we'll make sure I do, I'll do a better job of that next time of pushing you guys, my audience."

"Uh, Baron's shadow videos underrated topic people don't discuss much. The shadows don't match the time of day they claim. I haven't seen this, but I need to look at this."

"That was the reason why I said, uh, the, the video was AI because the shadows were off."

"That when he's running away, I've seen that where shadow, he just doesn't have a shadow on the—"

"Yeah. And the people disappear past the tree. It—"

"Didn't see Gary debunked that already, guys."

"I don't know. He actually did, but I saw him saying he did. So, uh, Bobby, big $50 donation. Thank you, brother. Says, 'They want us to believe this kid pulled this off, then leaves a trail of breadcrumbs leading right to him.'"

"Right to him."

"Yeah, he did. This always made zero sense to me. The kid is the fall guy for something more devious. Yeah, I, I've always, again, as somebody, I thought, I thought it was a professional hit. That was the first video I did because I was like, 'Dude, this guy got in, infiltrated the crime scene, took the shot, got out, didn't get caught, and he was gone for 30 hours.' And I was like, 'Dude, you're never going to find whoever this was. He, if he's 30 hours later, he's [ __ ] long gone. And then all of a sudden it's like, 'Oh, nope. Don't worry. He, uh, he sent all the messages and, you know, just happens that a sheriff [ __ ] was friends with his family and turned him in.'"

"Yeah."

"Hold on real quick. Tamara, you're in Utah. One of my, um, like fans said they're, they're in Utah. I just want to—"

"Let me know if you are in Utah. Like, let me send me a DM. Uh, Tamara, that's big. Uh, this is, yeah, go ahead and, uh, hit me up on Instagram. This might be better for Danks. I have no idea how any of this [ __ ] works. So—"

"I work at an auto auction and not sure how the SUV got a salvage title for bio cleanup. I'd like to talk to you more about it."

"I don't think it got a salvage title for bio cleanup. What the, what the, the way that they've packaged this is that it was, they removed the middle seats. So, th, the middle seats are removed. The carpet or whatever is also removed, and so that devalues the car into salvage territory. Uh, however they do it, but, uh, whatever they're going to classify. So—"

"All right. Uh, sorry for the answer. This picture of the rifle does look like it could collapse and fold easily. No. No. A 30-06 is is not got a collapsible buttstock on it. Not typically. Like Matt said, that version typically is a two-crew breakdown. At least as far as I understand it for those mousers. I don't have one myself, but, uh, stop kissing a wall in a tiny hat to watch this. Well, thank you. We're almost there. Uh, jury selection will take a long time. Jury selection is going to be very, very, very important on this."

"Uh, don't forget what Joe Kent said. Charlie was trying to stop Trump. True. And said something to Kent about in the White House. Can't remember the exact words. I think he would have been with Tucker if he wasn't killed. TP USA was normal. So he told Joe Kent, what exactly did he say to Joe?"

"He was passing them by and said—"

"'Yeah, whatever you do, don't let them go to war I run.'"

"Yeah, something along those lines. Yep, I do remember that. Yep."

"Uh, sorry, I'm skipping over some, some smaller ones, guys. But we got to get out of here. We're gonna, we're gonna make this up on Sunday. Bobby says, 'If he had been hit by 30-06, the back wall of the tent would have looked like Jackson Pollock's painting.'"

"Y—"

"100% true."

"The whole FBI narrative was a lie. Yeah, you—"

"Again, no exit wound 30-06. Not a thing. Uh, so a rifle was in a box put together without a screwdriver and no blue towel. So Tyler stashed the box prior. I don't know. But I mean, how Matt, how did he put it back together with no screwdriver? Do we know?"

"Well, so here's what, so earlier I was trying to say this, but like obviously we all talk for a living, so we're all talking on each other. Um, but but basically I think what they think happened is he went up there with the stock separate and only the barrel down his leg, and the stock was maybe in the backpack or something. And when he got to the roof, he put in the two screws, took the shot, and jumped off with a full rifle in his hands in the towel. I think that's the story."

"That's the, that's the way that the, the FBI narrative. That's how they're explaining it away. Okay."

"Yep."

"Sounds a little silly, but—"

"Uh, in a year's time, you guys will be looked back at as the few strong men that came out and fought backs against this cabal. Love watching good men being brave and using their voices. Keep it up, guys. Or we'll all be, uh, banned off of YouTube. Yeah, that part."

"There's, that's possible, too."

"You're going to have to watch us on Rumble."

"Yeah. And EOD disarm. Uh, yeah, I do love the EOD boys. Electronic primer was placed under CKC. Impact was from below. Frag exit when the neck paved over to hide markers in the GSR in the bone. Frag—"

"Would have blown his leg off."

"Yeah, it would have been, that would have been pretty nasty for sure. Uh, all right. Last one for the wife's outfit. Thank you. Who knows how much she spent on it? Probably a lot, but that's the way it goes. Uh, and then last one here. Uh, but how did he realize he was a psy and he didn't turn himself in? What made him realize he was in jeopardy?"

"He was warned."

"Well, he didn't turn himself in, bro. When they show up to your house and they say, 'We know who you are,' they're going to show up to the SWAT team kicking your door and probably shoot you in the [ __ ] face, and you're a 22-year-old kid. You're going to go, 'Well, I don't want that to happen, so I'm going to turn myself in.'"

"Yeah."

"Turning yourself in doesn't mean you're guilty, guys. It means that the, uh, law enforcement department has put a warrant out for your arrest. You have the decision to where you can turn yourself in or they can, they can bring you in. Right. There's whether you did it or not, that's irrelevant. So, all right. We did it, guys. I got to get to the rodeo. Thank you all so much. We'll be back Sunday. Does that sound good?"

"Thank you for having us, everyone. Thanks for being here."

"Thanks. Thanks to the audience. Thanks for the super chats. Thanks for all the, you know, all of our usual, uh, viewers. Thanks to the moderators. Make sure you guys go follow all my subscribers. Danks, Trigger, Aaron, Mr. LetGo, and also all of your guys' fans. Hey, if you like me, you know, maybe give me a follow. Come on now."

"So, all right, guys, we'll be back. We'll be back Sunday for another one. Man, this was a fun one. Thank you, guys. Also, thank you, guys, for coming on the show, uh, and doing the show with me tonight. So, great. There's a ton of stuff I learned tonight. So, that's the crazy thing about this trial is even when we're clo, you know, we all fall in it this close, we're, we're still learning things, you know. All right, we're gonna, we're gonna, uh, we're gonna cut it off here and, uh, we'll catch y'all later. All right, see you guys. I'll talk to you in the, uh, X. All right, see you guys."