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Fasting: The Healer Within

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[ominous instrumental music playing] ♪ [intriguing music plays]

[Sinclair] I'm Sinclair.

[Saxon] And I'm Saxon. And in case you haven't noticed, we're brothers. What you're about to watch is a story. It's our story. A story of healing, of brotherhood, and not eating for a substantially long time.

[Sinclair] So let's rewind the clock a little bit. At 20 years of age, I had big dreams of being a professional rugby player. My career was looking promising. And then one day, during a weight session, I suffered a bulging disc. And after that, I would never play rugby again.

[machine beeps]

For years, I tried to heal my body with different diets, training techniques, and thousands of dollars' worth of different therapies. But ultimately, nothing fixed the problem. Things were starting to feel completely hopeless when all of a sudden I discovered fasting and for the first time ever, my pain was gone. My first fast went for 19 days and it was incredible. I was witnessing my body heal... but I knew that it wasn't over. So, soon after, I started planning for the next one. Only this time, I asked Sax to come along.

[Saxon] After both living in the US for a number of years, we decided that the best place to do this fast was back home.

[Sinclair] This pain is something I deal with every day. It's in my knees, my neck, my back, my legs. Sometimes, it's a dull ache, and other times it feels like a sharp stabbing pain. Still strong. My resolve is still strong. I really wanna get through. Over the years, I've learned to live with it. I've learned to train through it. I've learned how to mask it with a brave face. But, if I'm completely honest, it's taken a massive toll on my life and my happiness. Now, though, I can finally see the way out. And I'm ready to do whatever it takes to heal. ♪ So, we're here in sunny Malibu on a completely sunless day, uh-- It sucks for you because you're pale as a ghost.

-Thanks.

-But, uh-- Oh, I have been living in Chicago for the last 18 months, so, give me a break. I told you, man. Work on your tan. We're gonna be here filming. I didn't have the luxury of sitting out in the sun all day, every day, eating fruit, all right? I haven't been here for four years now and, um, you know, we're looking across the ocean and we're ready to go home and... Yeah, we've got arguably the biggest-- By far, not even arguably, by far the biggest step. Biggest challenge of our lives coming up. 40-day fast. 20 days on water. 20 days on juice. The reason I'm doing this fast, for me, is pretty simple. It's I'm sick of being in pain and I wanna heal my body, and I feel like this is the best way to do it. Your results from your first fast, the first 19-day fast, that's kinda the reason I wanted to get into it. I've seen you for the last ten years being in pain. Obviously, you know, we shared a room together up until the age when I was 19.

[chuckles]

-[chuckles] Yeah.

-So, I saw you in pain. I saw you struggle day-to-day, and then see you have the success you had with your fast. Like, that was crazy. That was life-changing for me to see how life-changing it was for you. So, I bought into it and now I've done my own research into fasting,

-and--

-Yeah. I'm actually surprised you're even doing it because you don't need to do something like this. And this is, like, proper pushing the human experience as far as you can push it. I'm 26. I'm a seemingly young, healthy guy with not any past history of illnesses or anything like that. So, I'm here to show that through this fast that everybody, even a seemingly healthy person, has something to gain from it. And not to be-- Not to shy away from it just because you don't have a glaringly obvious reason

-to do it.

-Yeah, definitely. You know, you obviously, you've got more reasons to do it than I do. Well, and, like, originally for me, this was about, like, healing my body and just, getting being done with, like, being in pain and, like, having to live with this all the time. I've still got some healing to do and I know that. And I'm no longer, like, anxious about whether or not I can fix my body. It's just a matter of time now.

-[waves crashing]

-[calm music playing]

[Saxon] While in Malibu, we're taking the opportunity to chat with fellow Aussie, Joe Cross, who not only healed himself through fasting but made a documentary about it as well. We are hoping to get some words of wisdom and inspiration for our upcoming journey. Joe, thanks for joining us today, mate.

Boys, it's great to be here. The beginning of your journey with this, uh, powerful journey

-it's gonna be.

-Definitely. Fantastic to be here at the start. We're happy to have you here. You did a pretty special fast yourself. And, um, can you tell us a little bit about it?

Yeah, sure, look, uh, back in, uh, 2007, I'd reached a point in my life where my health was failing big time. I'd been on medication for a chronic autoimmune disease called chronic urticaria angioedema, which is really fancy way of saying chronic hives. My body was-- was enraged with inflammation. Any sort of physical touch, uh, any pressure on my body, two or three hours later, it would wilt up. And so, that's how I decided to go onto plants. How about a small apple juice, please. I allowed my body to have a chance to self-heal. And it was 60 days of juice and 90 days of eating just fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, and seeds. So it-- it was sort of, like, pretty amazing that five months of dedication and just deliberate intention and focus was enough to really reboot my whole system. And, you know, I got off all the medications. I started out at about 40 milligrams per day of my prednisone, which is a very powerful steroid that I needed to take every morning and every night. So, I was down to two milligrams, but the bottom line was, even after 60 days, I wasn't healed. It took three more months to get off that last bit of, uh, prednisone because you got to come up very slowly and the doctor's supervision.

How did your family respond to you when you told them you wanted to do a 60-day juice fast?

They thought I was mad. Of course, that's the-- that's exact same response we've had. Telling them we want to do a 20 days water, 20 days juice. You know, I know you guys are on this journey from a water fasting perspective and-- and then a juice fasting. And, uh, you're gonna see great benefits out of both. And, uh, you know, it's-- it should be a very exciting journey that you guys are about to start on. And I think it's awesome you're doing it together. I think, you know, in hindsight, I think it was harder for me on my own than it would have been better to have a buddy, or have a good friend, or someone to go along-- go along for the ride. The journey is a journey about you guys not judging anyone else for what they're doing because you're on this mission yourself to experience this transformation. And those transformations, that's change. And change can be tough. But, I look at change as opportunity. There's a lot of pain out there. There's a lot of suffering. There's a lot of people out there that are lost. I feel that the more that we can shine the light on ways out for them, ways for them to find a possible solution, then you've got hope and hope's big.

[inspiring music playing]

[Sinclair] To many, water fasting seems dangerous and irresponsible, because it's not generally accepted or understood by the medical community. Fortunately, however, there are doctors that are fully aware of the power of fasting and have used it to great effect to heal their patients. One of those is Dr. Alan Goldhammer, who runs a fasting clinic in Santa Rosa, California.

[Dr. Alan] My background is, I went to Chiropractic College in Oregon and Osteopathic College in Australia. Uh, I became interested at a very young age in fasting. So, fasting is that ancient practice that helps us overcome the hidden force that undermines health and happiness. You know, they say that Moses, David, Elijah, and Jesus fasted for 40 days. Well, you know, a couple of hundred of our patients have had that experience as well, and they've been able to do it successfully. In fact, I've had patients ask me sometimes, "Do-- If we're gonna fast for 40 days will we also teach them how to part the Red Sea?" And I tell them it's all in the wrist action.

[Sinclair] Yeah, because I wanted to ask you about--

[Dr. Alan] Patients come in from all over the world with a wide variety of problems and we consistently see people recovering their health. And thanks to people like Valter Longo and others who are publishing mainstream journals, this idea of fasting, uh, being helpful and, uh, allowing the body to heal itself is gaining more acceptance.

-[air hostess] The champagne--

-Would like to be in our video?

[air hostess] [laughs] I don't know. Do I?

-Yeah. Introduce yourself.

-Hello.

-Nina.

-[Saxon] Yeah.

-Well, welcome aboard.

-Thank you very much.

[gentle music playing]

[Saxon] We're three weeks out from the water fast and we've come to Bali to meet with our mentor Tyler Tolman, who is really the reason why we discovered fasting in the first place.

-[Tyler indistinct]

-[gentle music playing]

We're here for guidance and we're also here to learn how to make sure this fast is as safe and as healing as possible. Tyler, before we dive into some more information, why don't you tell us a little bit more

-about yourself?

-Yeah, cool. I'd love to. And thank you guys for being here. My father, his name is Don Tolman. He's kinda been a health mentor, I guess you could say guru for... many years. And he ran fasting retreats when I was a young child. And I just fully observed as my dad would sit out in nature, have everybody sit down on the grass, out in the sun. He would just talk about his experience in life. He talked about the principles of health, that there were seven basic principles of life and health and vitality in the ancient cultures and profound individuals for thousands of years would fast to open themselves up and to purify their bodies and to become a part of something greater, et cetera, et cetera. And so he did that for many years. I worked with my father for many years. But there came a point, where I was like, I was always like, "I want to be that guy that, you know, facilitates fasting and-- and shares this information," because that's where, like, the real juicy healing and shedding of so much toxicity mentally, emotionally, physically, socially, spiritually. That's where it all happens. I've had a belief since I observed my father when I was a teenager, that any disease can be healed.

[rousing music playing]

[Sinclair] Before going on this fast, we got some blood tests done to make sure that we were healthy and ready to undergo 40 days without food. And I feel healthy enough. I've never had any blood issues before. I've never-- I had some iron problems when I was, like, 16. I think it's because I was boozing too hard

-because I'm a legend.

-[laughing] I'm interested to see what the live blood analysis is gonna be like. Yeah, I mean, I wonder if it's gonna show us anything we need to be worried about for the fast. Well, I'm eager to see Kate anyway.

-I've not seen Kate in a while.

-[Saxon] How do you know Kate?

[Sinclair] Kate is an old friend. She's a naturopath.

-Hello? Kate. How are you?

-How are you doing? Good to see you.

-[Kate]Hey.

-[Saxon] Hey.

-[Kate] Come on in.

-[Sinclair] Let's do it.

-[Saxon] Fingers crossed. Okay, so I've got your bloods from your doctor here, so we'll chat through those. Uh, mostly, like, you guys look really healthy and, yeah, really fit to be moving ahead with the fast. I know that you've tried fasting before, so you kind of know what it's like. Um, and there's nothing-- you don't have really overt deficiencies. I'm a little bit worried about the levels of your B vitamins and your iron, and I'd expect that over the fast you might see those drop. So, as long as you're mindful of that and be aware of some of the, you know, symptoms of really, really big iron deficiency or B vitamin deficiency. But otherwise, it seems like you're in pretty good health. So iron deficiency, definitely fatigue. You can experience racing heartbeat, you might feel a bit lightheaded, shortness of breath, that kind of stuff. B12 deficiency, you can start to get some what's called peripheral neuropathy, so, um, like, nerve pain, especially in your extremities, so I'd be mindful of anything like that. Definitely low energy, again, brain fog, low mood, um, but a lot of those things you possibly expect to experience when you're fasting. So, I think with 20 days, you shouldn't see too much of a drop, but it's definitely something I'd be aware of. Okay. Both of you, like, your inflammatory markers are nice and low, vitamin D is high or at a good level. Have you ever worked with anyone on your own-- Practice your own experiences with fasting? Have you ever recommended it to anybody? I've had a lot of clients who've had digestive issues and they've wanted to just give their digestive system a break. So, that is often a really good way to go about it. Um, usually, we're talking a juice fast, or doing a fast with broth in that sense and it's shorter. So, I'd say up to, you know, five to seven days at most, um, with really, really good results. I think one of the biggest things that people experience is actually outside of the physical body. It's more related to unraveling their relationship with food. So, when you take the food out of the equation, they're suddenly confronted with all of these situations where, usually, they might go to the fridge and have something to eat, and now they have to sit with themselves and think about why they might be doing that. So, behaviorally, it can be really, really interesting as well.

[Saxon] Is there anybody, in regards to fasting in an extended state, extended say, past 24 hours, that you would recommend doesn't do the fast?

Definitely. So, um, pregnant women, breastfeeding women definitely shouldn't. Uh, anyone who has a history of eating disorder, I'd be very, very, at least mindful. I wanna know exactly where they're at now and, you know, how much they've worked through those issues. That can sometimes be a trigger for people. Um, kids, actually. Definitely not for kids.

-I wouldn't do it.

-Yeah. Kate, off the record, are we crazy for doing this fast?

-[Kate laughs]

-Little bit. [laughs] Crazy but, like, yeah. But it's good. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's definitely not the norm, um, and it's not gonna be easy, I don't imagine. But, don't know. But you could do these things if you feel called to do it, then why not?

[intriguing music playing]

[Tyler] You know, if we simply asked the question to the public, "How long do you think you could go only drinking water? Like, if you had access to no food whatsoever, how long do you think you would live?" Because the general belief for the last 100 plus, probably thousands of years, has been, uh, you know, maybe two or three days.

[Saxon] How long do you think we can survive on only water and no food?

Oh, um, as humans, maybe only a couple of days.

-Oh.

-Certainly all day. Uh, maybe a couple of days. I'll probably say 24 hours. No, probably... maybe 48. I reckon I'd go at least two weeks. Yeah, with water, I think-- I think you could survive two weeks. I think a week without food. Couple of days without food probably. Three weeks.

[Saxon] What makes you say that?

I'm just quoting my martial arts instructor. He said, uh, three weeks without food,

-[Saxon] Yeah.

-three days without water.

-[Saxon] Yeah.

-Three minutes without air.

-[Saxon] Yeah.

[Dr. Alan] Humans evolved in an environment of scarcity, not the abundance that we live in today. So all of our instincts, all of our programing is designed to make sure we get enough to eat, that we avoid being eaten. So people, you know, if they get on a plane in New York and they fly all the way to California, they're pretty sure they'll die over Colorado if they don't eat those peanuts. They think those pretzels saved their life. So the basic intuition of human beings, all human beings, is to be worried about deprivation. And that's great in a natural setting of scarcity. But, in the modern world of abundance, it creates a problem. Because today, people are not dying from deficiency diseases in industrialized countries, typically. They're dying from conditions of excess. According to science, if you're fairly lean, if you don't have heaps of fat, the body will kick in to a stage called autophagy. Autophagy is to break down something. Autophagy is autophagy or self-eating. The process the body has to eat up cancer cells and infectious cells and debris and get rid of, uh, intracellular debris. Well, this process of autophagy appears to increase with fasting. And maybe one of the reasons why many of these problems that we don't see resolving, uh, easily in the fed state, do well in the fasting state. There comes a time where there just builds up and there's too much for the body to handle. The liver is overwhelmed. The pancreas needs a break. You know, our insulin resistance sets in. And, you know, enzymes and things we're not digesting as good as we should be. So to give the body a bit of a rest... and a break, even if it's 24 hours.

[Saxon] Imagine spending two years in hospital between the ages of 12 to 14. Imagine being told that there was nothing that could be done and you would have to manage the symptoms for the rest of your life. This is exactly what happened to Storm Thomas. But, fortunately, Storm didn't take no for an answer.

When I was about 12 years old, I got, um, sick with Lyme disease. But at the time, we didn't know it was Lyme disease. I just had, like, a gastro-type thing and I was constantly vomiting, like, really, really sick. And, um, no doctors knew what it was and they couldn't treat it. And I stayed in hospital for about good three years. Spent my 12th and 13th birthday in hospital. Pretty much live there, you know, I had to drop out of school. It was a big thing for me. Then, when I turned 14, I got diagnosed with Lyme disease, which was a big turning point because we actually had an answer. Um, but then how do you dia-- Like, how do you treat it? You know, it's antibiotics, medications, more medications. And I'd been on so many medications from drips and everything like that, I just, I couldn't do it anymore. I was probably about 15 and I went and watched Tyler's show and, um, I heard about fasting and how people had healed from it and things like that. And, um, I was, you know, I was ready.

[chuckles]

I jumped two feet in to be honest, because I was so desperate for an answer. I found out about the fast and then, like, couple of months later I went and did the 21-day. I went straight into the--

-the big one.

-[Saxon] Okay. And that was with Tyler as well.

Yeah, that was with Tyler, um, because I was younger, you know, I felt like I needed that support, and I never done any fasting or anything like that before. The reason I went so fast into it is because I was so young and so sick because I was constantly in hospital. That's why I decided to do the big one so quickly. So, I loved the process so much that a year later I went and did

-another 21-day long fast.

-[Saxon] Wow.

I love fasting. It sounds super strange to say, but I love it, because of the feeling you get from it. Like, you just feel so clear. Like, everything just becomes so clear when you fast. Like your decisions, like, your body. Everything just feels, like, brand new again. It felt good to eat again and that was something I really missed and I hadn't had for four years because it was always pain, vomiting, whatever that came along with food. So I had such a bad, um, experience with food. So I got to rediscover the beauty of food and of life and of eating again. I just bawled my eyes out. I was just crying, you know, because it was such a big moment for me of realizing that the fast did heal me and I did feel my old self again.

[Sinclair] So, we're down here in Double Bay. This is home for Sax and I. And, um, we've got the family down here because we're a day away. We leave tomorrow. And we wanted their blessing and we wanted to get a little send off.

[Saxon] We got three days out from the fast itself. We're eating nothing but fruit and drinking nothing but water. So, that's all our family gets for today. Give 'em a little taste of what we're in for.

-That's very nice, sweetie.

-[indistinct]

[Saxon] How worried about us are you? I know-- I know you support us

-but how...

-[Sarah] Very, very. concerned are you that we're gonna hurt ourselves? It's not about hurting

Yourself. It's just about-- [Saxon] Or something going wrong. Well, you know, because you're starving your body and then you-- That's what I'm worried about, heart failure and the other thing [indistinct] they're young, fit guys. But these are the things that go through a mother's mind. It's not the weight loss I'm worried about, 'cause I know that will come on-- will come back quickly, but it's the unknown. It's scary. [Saxon] Yeah. [children exclaim] [dog barking] [Sinclair] Hey, bud.

My thoughts about the boys going on a 40-day, 20/20, 40-day fast is absolutely crazy. And seven days, I'd understand. Twenty water, twenty juice, I don't understand it, but I trust my boys. And they're very intelligent. And Sinclair and Sax wouldn't touch it unless it's safe. There's a whole level of mental and emotional things that are gonna come to the forefront when you do a fast that most people are completely unaware of. There's childhood stuff, deep emotional wounds, and trauma. And when all of a sudden you're fasting and your body's reducing, you know, all this fat, all these toxins are coming up, and on top of that, you have some big emotional things, you know, most of us, when we have emotional issues run to something, either alcohol or some type of addiction or drug or food, especially.

[Sinclair] Michael Adamedes is a psychotherapist who specializes in emotional healing. We talk to him about the connection between the mind and body and how the food we eat can create our thoughts, feelings, and emotions. Anxiety and depression and stress, um, are uncomfortable feelings in the body. And they have a biochemical, um, causality to them as well as the psychological triggered and all the rest of it. So, there's a whole biochemistry that's associated with depression, anxiety, stress. And as soon as you start to ingest things, you change the biochemistry. So, food will change the biochemistry. I'm feeling sad. I come home, I'm lonely, I've got nothing to do. I feel bored. I go to the refrigerator, open it up, what-- what have I got to eat? So, I'll have something to eat, and it doesn't satisfy me. Then the next thing I do is I want a treat. I want a chocolate or I want a biscuit. Oh, and some ice cream. And so, what I'm doing is I'm changing the biochemistry, and next thing you know, you're carrying four or five or six extra kilos. You know, you can tell people, "Stop eating all this sugar, salt, oil, processed, refined carbohydrates, the animal foods." You can tell people to do that, but it's difficult because they're addicted to that artificial stimulation of dopamine in their brain. It's hard to quit. And so one of the tools that we've discovered that makes, uh, escaping the dietary pleasure trap easier is fasting. If you just fast a day and give the body a break, the body will very quickly, you know, get rid of some of these toxins and push these things out and kick up, you know, all these mechanisms and boost your immune system in order to keep you healthy. It's the trouble, yes, that she's been treated all these years and no one was able to explain to her what was going on here.

[Saxon] Dr. Robert Morse is a naturopathic doctor and biochemist. He has spent the last 50 years teaching people how to heal themselves through the process of regenerative detoxification. Fasting allows the body to spend all its energy and consciousness on cleaning itself out. And when you remove the obstructions to the flow of energy in your body, which is mucus, proteins, uh, all of the things that build up in the body, foreign chemistry, metals, uh, uh, uh, toxic, uh, uh, psychotoxins, neuro to-- all this crap that builds up, get that cleaned out. There's no restriction to the flow of energy. You don't get tired. You don't have a limit. And that's the beauty of fasting and proper detoxification. [epic music playing]

[Tyler] The scientists in the universities are doing the studies on cancer and seeing the results. They're doing the studies on aging. They're doing the studies on the cells and metabolism and everything else. And the research is phenomenal. But doctors don't read it. And so they'll just say, "Look, you know, fasting is bad for you. Take this drug." That's the reason we wanted to do this documentary. We-- we listen to you. We've tried to tell other people about what can-- they can achieve, have got that same reaction, like, "You're crazy, you're stupid, you can ruin your health." So Sinclair and I are just like, "You know what? Screw it, we're gonna do it ourselves." And we're gonna show you, we're gonna do all the tests, we're gonna show you how we look. And then you can see it for yourself that we're not crazy. [birds chirping]

[Saxon] The day is finally here. Mount Warning, here we come. Eight hours in a car with Sinny? [groans] [Sinclair] Lucky you, man. [Saxon] Whatever, man. [both laugh] [epic music playing] Twenty-two? Twenty-two liters, perfect. Get one that's-- that's [indistinct]. [Sinclair] Awesome. All right. Let's do it. Last meal.

[Saxon] The plan was to drink fresh water from the stream throughout the 20 days. But, upon arrival at Mount Warning, we have now discovered that the creek is bone dry. [Sinclair] Oh, no. Is that a-- is that a creek? This is the creek. That's what we meant to be drinking? This is supposed to be flowing with water. [Saxon] We can't drink. There's no puddles there. [Sinclair sighs] And it has to be flowing. Do you see it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. What the hell do I do? So this is bore water. That means it's underground. Yeah, it's pipe-- it's getting pumped from underground. Um, took a hose. Turn it on. Hang on. All right, man. Taste it. Seems to be good. I mean, it's not fresh creek water, but it's not go-- it's not gonna hurt us then so there, drink all we have to.

[Tyler] You know, if you just had some regular tap water and you were just gonna watch this documentary about water fasting, "I'm gonna do a 40-day water fast now." And you start drinking tap water in your own house and you don't know any of the protocols for supporting detoxification, you could die. The most important thing you need to do before you do a fast is clear the digestive system. And by eating fruits and vegetables only before starting fasting, we found there's far less of those early phase fasting difficulties that people often have. Most of the early phase difficulties aren't even fasting. It's the withdrawal of caffeine addiction or the withdrawal of their medication, or the withdrawal from salt, oil, and sugar. So, if you can get that stuff done before you actually start fasting, the transition to fasting is much easier. Really saturate the system with something good before going into, like, a water fasting type of experience.

[Saxon] Last thing you chew, what's that gonna be here? [Sinclair] It's gonna be savory. There's not a whole lot of savory things here, mate. [chuckles] It's fruit and veggies. Yeah. Well, why do you want savory from fruit and veggies? I'm saying I'm not gonna eat something sweet-- [Saxon] All right. [Sinclair] All right, mate. All right, big guy. [both laugh] Mate, I'm getting cold. Uh, start the fire. First of many. I think I'm the bigger man. How about you, sir? I'll light the fire, mate. [both laugh]

[Tyler] There's one thing I really want you guys to be thinking about when you're out there fasting for 21 days, your nourishment is this. [deeply inhales and exhales] And where you're gonna be out in the woods, there are literally sesquiterpenes, monoterpenes, little chemical molecules that come off of the trees and the plants that are actually filtering, like, scrubbing the cells, the receptor sites of our cells, we call them essential oils. You know, it's like pine oil, lemon essential oil, frankincense oil, all these different essential oils which clean the cells, boost our immune system literally. Well, I think the environment in fasting is very important. People become very sensitive during fasting. All of their senses, sound, smell, taste, everything becomes heightened. You know, maybe in part to increase the bo-- the body's ability to go out and seek and find and consume fuel. Because when you take on fasting, you wanna be relaxed, you wanna be happy. Fasting state is also a relaxed state. And relaxing is how the body then takes that energy and then cleans itself out. [calm music playing]

Who's going first? I'm not going first. Well, I don't wanna do it. It was my idea. All right. Scissors, paper, rock. All right. Let's go. First to one? First to one. [both] Scissors, paper, rock. Ah! [laughs] Make it look good. [hair clip buzzes]

[Sinclair] Shaving our heads is about starting fresh. Getting rid of the old and starting anew. Our hair holds our past. It holds toxicity, and this is about getting rid of all of that and just giving ourselves a completely fresh start. [birds chirping]

[Saxon] Mount Warning is a beautiful piece of land with a rich history and strong Indigenous community. So, it's really important for us to recognize the rightful owners of the land and get their blessing before we begin our fast. To do that, we've organized a meet with Gunham, one of the indigenous elders.

[Saxon] He's talking about his, yeah. Gunham, it's a pleasure to meet you. Thanks for having us here in your backyard. [Gunham] Pleasure. It's quite a backyard you've got. Yeah, it's lovely. Yeah, provided by the Creator, the Creator had nothing to do with this. As you may or may not know, my brother are here to do it fast. It's 20 days of water and 20 days of juice. Um, we're actually doing it in your local neighborhood at Mount Warning. Um, can you tell us a little bit about, uh, the land, um, and, uh, also your involvement as an elder? I'm here as a guest to the tribes who-- who-- whose estate this is. There's 13 tribes in the Northern part of New South Wales and Southern Queensland. As most people know, Mount Warning is where the first raise of sun hit the continent every day.

[Sinclair] Sax and I came here to speak to you today to pay respect and, um, get your blessing on our journey. [indistinct] has extended to meet certain-- certain rights. I don't think they would have any problem with you guys being here on country. So, welcome to the country. [Saxon and Sinclair] Thank you very much. Thanks for having us.

[Gunham] We are, first of all, the owners, but we are, second of all, the custodians. We know, despite the fact that we are the owners of this estate while we are here, we know that when we pass we can't take it with us, but we do know that the estate will hold us forever. [calm music playing]

[Sinclair] After realizing that the creek water was no longer an option, we invested in a charcoal filter to make sure that the bore water was safe to drink. Yeah, give us that. Put it down. So, the charcoal filter gets rid of what? Sediment and chlorine. What else? Um, well no, it, um, it's bore water so there's no chlorine. It's just all the, like, solids and then it gets rid of, um, hopefully, any parasites and pathogens and things like that. And I have to go into-- All right, turn on. We have lift-off.

[Dr. Alan] Pure water, like, you get rainwater if the atmosphere wasn't polluted is essentially distilled water. So, we actually use laboratory grade fractionally steam distilled water as the solute that we give patients during fasting. And Bob is your uncle, Sally is your missus. [Sinclair] Cut it out. [both chuckle] Where do you wanna go today? I don't know. Not far. I think there's a reasonable spot near, uh, close to where we've been going. That lookout spot. I think there's one around the corner. Yeah? Yeah, I think it's on the map. [Sinclair] Okay. Wanna check it out? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so that's where we are now. If you go all the way across, that's where we've been going. I think, uh, I think if we go up here, that's gonna be a better look at. That's gonna be better for sun. Is it higher? It's definitely higher. I just don't know if there's a path to it. It's close to the river. Yeah, I mean that's another place, but I mean, what do you reckon, we go check it out? Yeah, why not? Yeah. What else are we gonna do? [chuckles] Drink water. [both laugh] [epic music playing]

[Saxon] Solidarity, brother. [Sinclair] Definitely hotter than yesterday. [Saxon] Yeah, it's good to get moving, though. [Saxon] Oh, yeah. Oh, what? [Saxon] Absolutely. How good is this? How did we not find out about this earlier? ♪

[Saxon] Chef Cynthia Louise works with Tyler, and fasting has changed her life in a massive way. Healing is not just about eating great food and fasting. Your soul has its own way that we as humans somehow have to fall in love with that soul and all the bits that go with it.

[Saxon] Growing up in Papua New Guinea, Chef Cynthia experienced health issues as a young teenager.

[Cynthia] In New Guinea, where I grew up, I contracted Hepatitis C through a knife. And I'm pointing to my head because I had a tattoo done in a village. As I was getting this amazing tattoo, so was a group of other people, and the same knife was used. My mom just said, "Oh, darling, you have no idea what you've just done." Years later I'd moved to Australia and I was in my early 20s and I fell pregnant. I went for some routine blood tests, and that's when I found out I was 100%, you know, contracted Hepatitis C. I didn't tell anybody and I kept it very secretive 'cause what I knew about Hepatitis C was, number one, it's dangerous. It's a killer virus, disease, whatever you wanna call it. And it also has a stigma in the community.

[Saxon] While Chef Cynthia was concerned about her Hepatitis, it wasn't the reason she began fasting. I started to feel a sensation down in my uterus area, and it started to really, really hurt. And my tummy was swelling all the time. And Tyler Tolman suggested to come over to Indonesia, where he moved to and to do a fast. And I decided to do a juice fast. And I lasted three days on juice, and I hated it. And I went straight onto water, and then I did a full ten days on water, and I loved every minute of it. What happened to my body was extraordinary. And one day I went to the toilet and I passed these things that came out of my vagina. And what I did was, which is really weird, don't freak out. I scooped them up out of the water and I put them in a jar. I know, it's weird, but I'm just one of those people like, I wanna know what's going on. And washed my hands, cleaned up the jar, and I sat it on my girlfriend's table. [laughs] She said to me, "What is that on my table?" And Tyler came along and picked it up and he looked at it and he goes, "Oh, my God, those are those fibroids." And nothing ever came back and no pain ever came into my body and no frustration and no pressure. It was phenomenal. And I still did not tell anyone about my Hep C, I didn't talk about it. Tyler didn't even know about it, and he was one of the closest people that I worked with. When I got into my forties, um, I had a-- I had a bit of a situation happen. My beautiful mom, who loves me very much, said to me, "It's time that you looked at how to look after this Hep C." And I was, like, "Oh, my God, I can't believe this has come up again in my life, this conversation years later and I'm in my forties now, right? And I go in the car and I just broke down in tears and I was so sad. Father said to me, you know, "What's wrong?" And I said, "I can't tell you. I just-- I'm so-- I'm so distressed." And anyway, I finally told him, I said, "Listen, I've-- I've contracted Hep C, you know that tattoo on my face?" And I just looked at her, I said, "Cynthia, you don't have it. There's no way that virus survived those protocols and, you know, breaking the fast and eating as healthily as you have. There's no way the virus has survived." And she's like, "Oh, okay, well, thanks for making me feel better." She didn't believe me. He said, "Look, if you feel like you wanna go to the doctor and get a blood test, I support you, but I'm telling you now, I'll bet you 100 bucks that it's not there." So, I made an appointment for the doctor and I went and had some blood test. And two and a half weeks later, an email popped up and I opened it and it's from the Mermaid Medical Center on the Gold Coast Highway in Queensland, Australia. "Dear Cynthia, I'm happy to inform you that your latest pathology results indicate that you have cleared your Hep C infection. This means you do not have Hepatitis C infection anymore." And I stared at the screen, printed it out, and I walked down to my friend's house, Tyler's house, and I gave him the bit of paper and I said, "Read that." And he's like, "That's 100 bucks, thanks. You owe me 'cause you don't have Hep C because of all that fasting." And I was just like, "This is big." And he goes, "This is huge."

Right now, if you go to a medical doctor with high blood pressure or diabetes or autoimmune diseases, you're gonna be told that you'll need to be on drugs for the rest of your life. You'll be guaranteed that if you follow proper medical advice, you'll never get well, you'll be sick forever. Because that's the-- the-- the medical management of these conditions has nothing to do with the reasons why the patient gets sick. The ancient Egyptian physicians never attacked disease, they supported health. They said if you take somebody who's sick and just support all the healthy aspects of that person, then health will come back into the being and disease goes by the wayside. And the thing you need to understand is the body uses more energy for digestion than any other function. So, all that energy that our body is using three times a day for the mo-- the masses of the population, all of a sudden it's freed up. All this energy that doesn't have to be used. So, instead of digesting food, it says, "Okay, well let's clean house." But everybody that's gonna undergo fasting wants to make sure are they a good candidate for fasting? There are many people that this would be very inappropriate. It could be harmful or even deadly. Basic history, exam and lab baseline are important. And that's also important because during fasting the body can generate what are called healing crisis, where acute chronic problems become very acute. And you have to be able to tell the difference between a problem that looks bad but isn't and that is bad, that is a problem. Any old injuries that never healed, any deterioration in the body, any is acidosis in the body where you have-- have had inflammation for a lot of years and you have a little breakdown of tissue, you're gonna be aware where all this is. You can also be aware where your genetic weaknesses are because wherever you have a weakness, you're gonna know it. People have side effects of-- of water fasting. "Oh, I've got a headache. Oh, I've just got, like, cold chills. Oh, I've got pains in different places. Oh, I just don't have any energy." All kinds of things come up and it's because they're not following the process. So, you can get a skin brush and brush your skin, which moves the lymphatic system. It also opens up the skin. You know, I use this stuff called gua sha, which is an ancient Egyptian technique where they took minerals, like, bicarbonate soda and they actually took distilled alcohol and put the two together and you scrub the skin, which opens up and cleans out all the acids and waste.

[Sinclair whoops] [Sinclair whoops] [Saxon] Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. [Sinclair whoops] [both whoop] It's day six here. Um, really shitty day today. It's, uh, cold weather. It's-- it's overcast. So, we've been spending most of the day in the trailer. Definitely my hardest day so far. Feeling really tired and, um, hungry and, um, just can't stop thinking about the fact I've got 14 days left. I guess you just gotta grit your teeth and get through it and get it done 'cause there's no other way to do it. And just drink some water and yeah. This is what it's like in the day. You just don't always have things to do. So, you hope that the sun's out and you just-- you get out as much as you can and then you just fill the time. [gentle music playing] ♪

[Dr. Alan] So, detoxification was the traditional justification for fasting. This idea that people were toxic. Well, you know, now we know, well, that was true. And in fact, if you take a fat biopsy of, uh, anybody basically on the planet and you analyze it, you'll find there's several hundred different chemicals that tend to accumulate, uh, in the bodies of human beings. Things like PCB and dioxin and pesticide residues. So, the idea is that the body might mobilize and eliminate these materials during fasting. But the bottom line is detoxification is the golden key to wellness, to revitalization, to rebuilding. Fasting is a part of detoxification, like it or not, it just comes with it. It's not always pleasant. You can

Get significant symptoms. I know sometimes it'll taste like something crawled in your mouth and died, and you can get skin rashes and mucus discharges and all kinds of elimination symptoms. But there are symptoms we're used to seeing; we're expecting to see. They're self-limiting, uh, and rarely, uh, did they require intervention. [Sinclair] 20 days is a long time to go without food. Your digestive system slows down significantly, and bowel movements become increasingly rare. So, going to see Ela was a really important thing for Sax and me to support the body with elimination.

[Ela] So, it's a very gentle procedure whereby we insert slowly some warm water, and then the water brings out naturally any waste, mucus, parasites, anything that's basically in the colon. So, this is a colonic machine, and we are letting water in slowly, very slowly, and gently. And then, as the water builds up in the colon, we are releasing it, and then it brings out poop. And we had some worms today and also some mucus, lots of mucus.

So, when you go on a fast, the first thing that happens within a couple of days is your body depletes its glycogen stores, its sugar stores, and converts to burning predominantly fat... and--and in the process of doing that, it sets up a conservation mechanism. So, metabolic rate begins to slow; the body begins to adapt because the brain doesn't know how long you're gonna need to be in this, uh, deprivation state. And during the fasting state, it preserves your vital tissues and begins to break down tissue in inverse proportion to the need by the body. For example, if you lose 10% of your body weight, you won't necessarily lose 10% of your tumor. Many times the tumor will be completely resolved.

We're painting fasting as being this amazing process because it is. But anything that has such benefit is not gonna be easy, especially if it's your first time; your toxic things are coming out. Like, let's be real. You're fasting; you're, to some degree, starving yourself. It's not really the definition of starvation, but you know you're gonna lose energy, and you're gonna be down. Your body's gonna be detoxing; it's--it's--it might not be the most comfortable experience, especially because so many people have deep emotional stuff that they don't wanna deal with.

[Sinclair] By day ten, the detox is becoming much more than physical. A lot of emotional stuff has started to come to the surface. To help us navigate our way through this, we've decided to undergo a process called rebirthing.

[Michael] What it is, is it's a breathing technique, and it's continuously breathing and breathing and breathing. And as you do that, you build, um, the energetic level of your body. So, your body becomes more and more energized. And as it becomes energized, um, you begin to connect to places that may be tense, uh, emotions that were repressed, and it can also bring back past memories. And the purpose of doing that is to really release the--the past that's being held in your body and in your psyche. So, we haven't all done this, so basically--

[Sinclair] Dr. Carli specializes in emotional release via the nervous system. My thing is that I work with people to help them heal from very, very chronic stuff, so as far as--

[Sinclair] To help support us in this process, we've asked her to come and join us in the mountains. It's actually your body's ability to find and feel and release what no longer it needs.

[Sinclair] We were also joined by our friend, Ross, who is on his own healing journey. Purely through a breathing technique, um, you can heal yourself. It's one of the most amazing magical processes, and it requires initially a coach. It requires someone to be there with you, to guide you, to support you.

[calm music playing]

[breaths fast]

[breaths loudly]

[breaths heavily]

-Yeah.

Yeah.

-[crying]

Yeah.

Yeah.

[breathing heavily]

We are taught at a very early age to be good, which means to not express feelings. And as soon as I suppress my feelings, then I begin to block the energetic flow. And so, when we start to hold back our feelings, our anger, our sadness, our fear, it hazards a blockage in various energetic channels, and it has an impact on different organs. So that over a long period of time, um, is catastrophic because it will be the seed for a disease. And so, connecting into the word, the word forgiveness and what that means and where that starts... and look at when we are really looking at healing. It was strange; I didn't go into it thinking about any particular thing.

-[Dr. Carli]

Yeah.

-And then suddenly, as soon as, like, that kind of wave of--of--of heat and--and shuddering and, like, um... I don't know how else to describe it. Suddenly, my mind started to go to places. You know, it took me back from when I was a kid, and I was the youngest of seven.

-[Dr. Arli]

Oh, wow.

-And, you know. I got given a pretty--pretty hard time, which is--which is fine, you know, I--I have no problem with that, but you know, my sister, in particular, gave me a hard time, but she was so much older than me, and she didn't really develop a relationship to kinda counter and balance that. She used to make me cry a lot, and I would never be able to voice myself. I used to sit there with a lump in my throat and be just upset over trivial things. They were--they were very [indistinct] comments.

[calming music plays]

[Sinclair] This kind of breathwork pushed us way outside our comfort zone. It challenged us physically and emotionally. It was an experience we weren't really ready for, but one we were very grateful to have.

♪ [FaceTime tone]

You ready to talk?

-Hey.

-Hey.

-Sweetie.

-Hello, sweetie. How you doing, mama? How did you sleep?

-Uh, pretty good.

-Um, yeah. I went to bed at, like, eight o'clock. Went to bed early; I got a pretty sore neck this morning. Your eyes look sleepy, Sax. I am a little bit tired this morning. But--I mean, it's only six--six o'clock here. I haven't been up for very long. Sinny--Sinny your eyes look like grandpas' did

-in his final days.

-[laugh]

-That's great.

-Isn't that awful?

-Well, you're supposed to--

-That's great.

-No, I really good about that.

-[laughs]

-Thanks.

-Coughed it. And Grandpa was just-- I know but I mean You look like you're about to die. I'm not going to insult you. But I'm--You know, from a mother's perspective letting you know that you--you're looking pretty crook. So, you're still freaking out about us or are you feeling all right?

[Sarah] I don't, um, no, because I've been keeping a close check on you. Obviously, I'm noticing a decline in your continual banter, in your comedic banter between each other that seems to have, um, lulled, which is to be expected. I don't know, I just don't really feel--I tell you what, if you were sitting where I was and you could smell this breath, it's absolutely putrid.

-[Mom laughs]

-[Mom] Is it--is it sour? He loves a little chance to dig at me.

-He reeks.

-He loves a chance. 'Cause you know what? It makes him feel better. It makes him look like, you know, when he's on camera,

-he's gonna look great.

-I look like grandpa.

-I don't even know that.

-I need every bit I can get. Grandpa dying. Aww. Well, that's what I meant by--No, we know what you mean. We heard you loud and clear. And you have another ten days, don't you?

-Yep.

-[Mom] Um--

-[clears throat]

-All right. You haven't had any heart palpitations or any sort of fearful, unwell, scary moments?

[both] No. A few moments of, like, you know, homesickness and--and, like, you know, life sickness of what--of what we, uh, our usual lives are, but so. Loads of daydreaming about food.

-Yeah.

-Yeah. All right, my sweeties. So I have to go.

-All right, Mom.

-Gotta earn a few dollars.

-I love you.

-Love you.

-Love you, Mom.

-We'll check in soon.

[Sarah] Can't wait for you to be home. All right. Love you. Love you. Hang in there.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye. Bye. Bye-bye-bye.

[call ended tone]

Fuck, do I look like Grandpa?

[chuckles]

[epic music playing]

[Sinclair] How much are you thinking about food? Um, thinking about food a little bit. Not because I miss eating that food, but because I miss the feeling that I had when I would eat that food. You know, I--You associate food with feeling, you know. For example, on Monday night, taco night, back at home, I remember we'd sit down, Dad, Sinclair, myself, would watch the football. It was like a Monday night ritual. And it was always very special to me. I'd be at school on a Monday, and I'd get excited that I was gonna be eating tacos when I would get home, you know? It was--it was something I always held very dear to me. So, I've been thinking about meat, but in the sense that, you know, that meal that involved meat I was eating made me feel good. And I miss feeling like that. I have been thinking about food a lot, excited to start eating again, but, uh, I'm more than willing to wait.

[heavy rain]

[thunder]

[Sinclair] You know, one thing that it's really come apparent to me is perspective. And that is when we've got five days left or we've got eight days or whatever it is, it's so easy to get bogged down by this idea that you have so much time left to potentially feel like shit. And one of my affirmations that I wrote is the harder the day, the deeper the detox. And that's something I keep looking at. And instead of focusing on the fact that I've still got five days left, I wanna focus on the fact that it's an opportunity. I've got five days left to continue this detox and continue healing because every day I do this is another step towards getting my body back to full strength and getting my body rid of all of this toxic waste that is built up over my entire lifetime.

[emotional music playing]

Uh, one of the posts has come down during the night. Shit, we gotta zip it back up.

[sighs]

-All right.

-[clears throat]

You stand up there. I'll hold it up and you zip it up. The taller person should hold it.

[Saxon] You're stronger than I am, so. What do you want me to do? Which one? Let me try hold it. I--I don't have the energy to get up.

[zipping]

[tarp rustling]

Fuck you. There's a few clips I'm sure we never did, but whatever. All right. Back to bed. So it's day 20. Um, I've officially, uh, gone past my milestone of fasting, which was 19 days. Um, so I'm proud of myself for that. Uh, but I'm struggling with this fast now. I'm just so weak and, um, craving food; my stomach hurts. At the moment we're just kinda--we're just hanging in there. We're just seeing it through because we're just at that point now where we're--we're just willing it; we want it to be done. It tastes kind of rank, don't you reckon? Tast--It tasted rank since day one.

-Huh?

-It tasted rank since day one. I'm about ready to be done with this fast, to be perfectly honest. Um, I'm at my wit's end a little bit. I'm trying to keep a positive spirit, but, um, I'm just ready to move on to the next place and--and get started with the next phase of the fast.

[soft music playing]

[indistinct] the sun coming.

[Tyler] So our body holds excess fat all through it. You know, even if you're super lean, you still have fat; otherwise, you'd be dead. When you start to fast, ketosis starts to break down the fat, and when every fat cell is reduced through ketosis, it releases stem cells. So, these stem cells were called embryonic-like stem cells. So that they're not embryonic stem cells. They're just like embryonic stem cells in the sense that they have what's called pluripotency. Pluripotency means now that these stem cells floating throughout my circulatory system, it can take the place of any damaged or worn-out tissue. Okay, the implications of this, most people cannot understand the implications of this are phenomenal. This means that anywhere my circulatory system is traveling can be regenerated with stem cells. So--And this starts to happen... you know, within 24 to 48 hours the stem cells are being produced.

[epic music playing]

[Sinclair] Like most 40-year-old blokes, Danner never gave his health a second thought, because he never had to. But then the day came when that all changed. So, I went and had a colonoscopy and, um...and that's when they told me I had colorectal cancer. So I had a--I had a--a 40 mil tumor about that far inside me, me bum hole. And, uh, so that's when the journey began, I guess. I was your regular parley riding. Like, I'd go--You go to the [indistinct] at camps and there'd be, uh, there'd be steaks, sausages, hamburgers, some shepherd's pie and spaghetti bolognaise. So, I'd just have all of it with, like, three chips and a couple of peas, you know. And--and beer and, like, lots of stuff, you know. I was living it large, you know. I used to party on, take all sorts of illicit stuff. That was good fun at the time. 'Cause I was gonna live forever.

-[Sinclair]

Yeah.

-[Danner]

Turns out that wasn't the case. So believing in Western medicine like we do, I, uh, I opted for the, uh, chemotherapy and the radiation and then obviously surgery. So, I went through all the chemo, which is just, it's hell, you know. All the skin comes off your hands; your mouth's full of ulcers. Uh, every orifice has got chemical burns on it. And, uh, you know, I used to wrap up the willy to just to walk around, have to unwrap it to go to the toilet. And--and, uh, it was just shit. So, I had a surgery; I had an ileostomy bag on me stomach for ten weeks. One of the real low points is--is after the surgery when my kids came in and--and they were too scared to come to the bed and see me, you know. And they were just so frightened. And I had to coach them over like, they were only one and two year old. One and two. They were little, but, like, they just walked in the room and was like--

-[Sinclair]

Scared of dad.

-Yeah. I had shit hanging out of me everywhere, you know, all of crap. And I just, I guess I looked like someone from Star Trek, you know, one of the Borg.

[chuckles]

And then, 12 months after the surgery I went down for a checkup... and I'd had a--I had a hernia where the bag had been. So, I sort of rocked in and said, "Mate... you know, happy as Larry. The nurse has given me the all clear." I said, "Can we fix the hernia, you know?" He said, "Oh, well, you see we'll have to deal with this tumor on your liver." And I just, far out, you know? And he said, "Well, I wanna put you back on chemo." I said, "Nah, you're not gonna put me back on chemotherapy." I said, "Mate, the best you could do for me is maybe refer me to a liver surgeon, you know what I mean? Like, get it taken out or whatever." I was at the hospital to get the PET scan when I spoke to Tyler. And he said, "Mate..." he said, "Get over it, you know," And Tyler said, "Look, you--cancer's in you." And I--I had a bit of an understanding of it now, you know, like, they'd treated the symptom and not the cause, you know. So and I thought, "Fuck, you're right, man." You're right. I said, "I'm coming to Bali." 'Cause Kate was in--in Adelaide. And, uh, and I rang her up and said, "Make sure the kids have got passports -we're going to Bali."

-[Sinclair]

Yeah.

Yeah.

Dr. Herbert M. Shelton was the main one talking about autolysis. When we fast, our body starts to break down all the excess foreign proteins. That's tumors, cysts, little lipomas, and growths that could be skin tags. I see 'em come all the time, like, women will come with little skin tags and different things, and they literally melt away, and you can't tell they were ever there before. But it literally comes down to the point of, like, viruses are completely reduced. Anything that's a foreign protein, I believe, based on my experience and based on what science says, that we can eradicate and eliminate all of it.

[Danner] So anyway, I went over to Bali and did a 21-day fast and did rebirthing and colonics. I remember talking to me mate before I left, said, "Nah, they're not freaking going near me ass. No one's sticking that one up me ass anyway, you know?" But then I get over there and realize that, well, you know, the surgery had altered me enough that I couldn't go to the toilet every day anyway. But--And knowing about toxicity and getting the toxins out to--to beat the cancer and not develop any more cancer, I sort of, I put up the white flag and then I went.

[Sinclair] You realized they're not so bad these colonics, huh?

Yeah, and then you start feeling awesome after, you're like,

-"God this is good."

-[Sinclair]

Yeah.

Did the 21 days water, broke fast in the afternoon of the--the 22nd day, I guess. And, uh, then went back to work. So, I went and had the scans, and the next day that old mate from the--from the radio biography place rang up and says, "Mate, there is no sign of any tumors, no nothing." Well, I just fucking broke up. What a feel. You know, I'd done it. Go in three months later, and then I come back with no cancer. That was awesome.

[emotional music playing]

[fire crackling]

Was this as hard as you thought it would be?

Um... I never thought it would be easy. I've had moments that've almost brought me to tears because of the challenge that it was. And it was just--it was almost, like, you know, a feeling of, like, "I'm not good enough. I'm not capable." Which is--They--they're thoughts I've struggled with, you know, a lot of my life. But, I've definitely had problems of insecurity and doubt and--and those--those kind of things obviously pop up when you think, "I can't do this; I can't get through this fast." And, you know, those emotional feelings that you felt throughout your life and different times kind of come to the fore. And honestly, there were a few times where I had to choke back tears, 'cause I'm like, "Fuck, this is just all becoming too much for me."

Yeah, no, I--I think that's the beauty of fasting. Is that, like, it puts you in a position where you are completely stripped down. You've got no--you've got nothing to, like, hide behind, no food or no comforts, none of your distractions. You just have to face up and bear everything that comes up.

[Saxon] What's popped up for you?

I've had weird feelings of sadness in this fast... and, like, loneliness and, um, I think because I've, again, experienced a lot of that in the last seven years.

-[fire crackling]

-[crickets chirping]

Shit, man, we've got each other. That's the most important thing.

Yeah, absolutely. And, mate, look, for the record... I'm incredibly proud of you.

-Thanks, mate.

-Honestly, I really am. And I don't know if I've said it yet; I was gonna save it 'til the end... but I really am, because you didn't need to do this.

[indistinct]

[chuckles]

It's all right, mate.

-[smooch]

-[crying]

[chuckles]

What are you crying for?

It's been really hard.

[crying]

[sniffs]

-[smooch]

-I love you, mate. Honestly, I couldn't have done this to anyone else. You're the only person. It's for me. That's what I'm crying about.

I feel the same way. It's been by far the hardest thing I've ever had to do. And you were there for me when I needed you. So, that's the least I could have asked.

[crickets chirping]

[light clicks]

[emotional music playing]

[birds chirping]

Last day, baby.

-Last day, brother.

-Smash it.

About six hours from now... we're sipping on that juice.

[market din]

Reckon that's the one.

Oh!

-Oh, yeah.

-Oh, yeah, that's the one. Oh, Sax, you gotta smell this. Absolutely fantastic. Get two of 'em.

-Where is it?

-[Sinclair]

In the aisle?

[woman] Yeah. Honestly, this is the most fired up I've been the entire fast. I'm ready to rock and roll, man.

[Saxon] There we go.

-[sniffs]

-[laughs]

Oh, I just wanna bite into it. Oh, my God. It's taking everything I have not to bite into that.

[sniffs]

Oh! What? Oh, my God. Oh, you can smell the sugar. You can honestly taste it. It just gave me the biggest rush of energy... and now it's gone.

[machine whirring]

-[Sinclair]

Oh, yeah.

-[Saxon]

Oh, look at that.

[machine whirring]

-That's one.

-Oh. Is it cold?

Cold enough.

[sighs]

[sighs]

-Cheers, brother.

-Cheers, cuz.

[chuckles]

Oh, my God. I just wanna skull it. Mate, we're fucking done.

[Saxon] We're fucking done.

-[Saxon laughs]

-[Sinclair]

Oh, my God.

[epic music playing]

[Sinclair] It's like your whole body just lights up. I felt like it was... just running, like, going down the back of my throat and then just running throughout the whole body. What's 20 days worth of just thinking about that one glass, that one jar of juice.

[Sinclair] By far, the hardest days for me were the last five. Yeah, to be here now in Byron Bay. To go from the bush, to the beach to

Go from, uh, a windy tent to four walls. Warmth. [both sighs] Yes.

[Tyler] So, how we break the fast is actually of the utmost importance. In fact, it was Socrates who said, "Any fool can fast, but it takes great wisdom to break a fast properly." So, coming out of a water fast, it's actually really important to take it slow because our body actually needs the enzymes, amino acids, and proteins to get all of the digestive function of the body working again. -[machine whirring] -[Saxon] This thing is awesome.

[Tyler] I like to focus on fruit juices specifically because they are the things that are gonna provide a lot of the sugars and things that are gonna change my body from being in ketosis back into filling up my glucose stores and glycogen stores for muscle and getting me back into an efficient system of actually using carbohydrates and sugars for fuel once again. And it takes about half the length of the fast to recover after a long-term water-only fast, uh, if you're gonna do it safely and intelligently. If you refeed, uh, too aggressively even on healthy foods, you can get quite sick. You know, it can be quite distressing to people. And so it's very, very important that refeeding be done carefully. [waves crashing]

[Saxon] Oh! Imagine what you've done is just, like, destroying and getting rid of all the old and so now we want the building blocks to rebuild an absolute Ferrari moving forwards.

[Sinclair] After four weeks of doing it tough, Sax and I cannot wait to get back and see the family.

[Sinclair] What's up, gang? Hey! -Hey! -Oh, look who's back. [indistinct chatter] [smooches] -How are you precious? -[girl] Good. You good? Did you miss us? -[woman] How much? -Yeah. [indistinct chatter] [emotional music playing]

[Sinclair] So, the next chapter for us is nine days in Bali at Tyler's retreat. That means as many juices as we want, sunshine every day, and Mum's coming along for the ride. Uh, we're here on day 34 of the fast, day 14 of the juice fast in beautiful sunny Bali, as you can see. Have a look at the-- the weather around us. Yeah, it's a little bit different to what we've been used to, so. Absolutely stunning. Um, it's been a really good experience so far. The retreat here is, it's not like anything I've ever been to before. It's the people here, you know, the variety, the-- the, you know, the stories that these people have, the hardships and the pain that they-- a lot of these people have gone through. And it also just makes you feel so much love towards everyone that's here because everyone's here to heal and everyone wants to-- to-- to be better.

[Sinclair] We've got six days left here and-- and we're gonna soak up every last second of it. [joyful music playing] ♪ [birds chirping] [chuckles] -So soft. -[laughs] And moist. 40 days. -40-- 40 days. -Days. Fucking done. Yes. [birds chirping] [indistinct chatter] ♪

[Sinclair] Hey, man. -[Saxon] You nervous as I am? -[laughs]

[Sinclair] I'm not as nervous as you are. I'm a little bit nervous to be honest. 'Cause I mean, shit, who knows what that fast has changed. I mean, hopefully all for the better, especially now after eight months. But still, you'd be pretty upset to hear it's done more harm than good. -Not that I think it has, but. -[Saxon] Yeah. [Kate chuckles] -[Sinclair] Hello, Kate. -Hey. Good to see you. -[Saxon] How're you doing? -Welcome back. Thank you, it's been, uh, it's been a while. It has been a while. So Saxon--

[Sinclair] After the fast was completed, we had two sets of blood work done. The first immediately after, and then again, eight months later. We're looking at November. Um, interestingly, one of your liver enzymes is elevated, so not hugely, but we really don't wanna see any elevation there. -So-- -What does that? So when we're seeing any of the liver enzymes elevated, this does indicate a degree of liver damage, and your liver is really, really capable of regenerating. So it's not necessarily a long-term thing. Um, but definitely something that you'd wanna, uh, double-check and reinvestigate. If your liver was, you know, mobilizing a lot of toxicity and, um, you're really trying to detoxify for such an extended period of time. Um, and I guess in a-- a way that it doesn't usually in day-to-day life, then that perhaps is what's put that load on the liver there. Then from June, when we have these more recent results, so we can see here that in June your liver function is back to normal. So that liver enzyme is back within range, which is great to see. So Sinclair, we've seen your vitamin D has dropped down from 129 to 94 following the fast. So, it's still a really healthy vitamin D level. But given that you were getting lots of sun, there's, yeah, it's interesting that there's been a change there. That vitamin D production is relying on the liver and the kidneys to actually convert the vitamin D. So, whether the strain that was happening there maybe changed the way that your body was, um, manufacturing that. Now looking at June, so this is when you've obviously had a bit more time -Yeah. -back into normal life. Vitamin D has come back up. So, we're now 116, um, which is great, and your B12 actually has increased as well.

[Sinclair] While I was happy with the blood results, I didn't achieve exactly what I set out for on this fast. I do still experience some pain. I have learned that there is much more to fasting than simply drinking water. And that true healing takes time. Even though I didn't get the result I was after, it was still an incredibly positive learning experience for me and one that I'm extremely grateful for. It is so great doing a water fast. I've developed cookbooks because I was fasting. I've-- I've noticed things come outta my body. I've had more energy, I've had more clarity. The miracle of fasting is why I'm here today talking to you guys. And I will be watching my children, walking my daughter down the aisle. Oh, saved me life. Saved everything. Now, my kids have a father. What I wanna say is you can heal, and that's something I really wanted to hear, um, from people when I was sick. You know, you can heal. Like, there was always that, like, maybe, maybe not, like, but you can heal. Our bodies are so smart. Like, they-- that's what they're made to do. That's what we are here to do. And fasting has given me life again. [epic music playing] ♪ Benzo. Good boy. Come on [indistinct]. Good boy.

So, we're here three and a half years later after the fast. Um, there were obviously some things that you wanted to get out of the fast. How did you find your experience?

Yeah, I have, like, really fond memories of the fast. Obviously, like, you and I look back on it and, um, yeah, it's-- it's a great memory. Yeah. -Uh, you know, it took-- -It's life changing. -For sure. Yeah. -Yeah. For in terms of, like, what I got out of it, um... I learned a ton about my body. You know, I-- I learned a ton about fasting. You know, I learned that you're not guaranteed to heal just because you drink water and you go and stay on a mountain for 20 days. Like, there's so many things that go into the whole fasting process, and ultimately your body is the one that has the say at the end of the day anyway. So, you might go in with the intention of fixing really specific problems, but you're just not guaranteed to fix those problems. You might fix some others that you weren't even really that concerned about or aware of. So, your body ultimately has the-- the last say in it. It's just about knowing how to support it: how to prepare, how to fast, how to break it. And then you just kind of sit back and you let your body go through it's-- it's motions and-- and let it do it-- do its thing. Um, obviously I didn't completely heal the things that I was looking to heal, my-- my chronic pain, but I learned that it's not about that. It's about the underlying cause of my pain and-- and all the things that I'm dealing with. And as you and I know now, as coaches and everything that we've learnt, it's, like, it's the kidneys and the adrenals and the lymphatic system. It's the digestive system and all the-- the weaknesses and the waste that I've accumulated, um, and developed over my lifetime. So, that is really the focus for me and-- and it has become the focus since the fast, and-- and that takes time. Like, we both know that now, in the work that we do. Healing takes time. It's a journey.

[Saxon] So, you'll continue fasting? -[Sinclair] Yeah. -For the rest of your life? -Yeah, for sure. -Yeah. Yeah, and I have, you know we both have in the last three years and-- and we've learned so much about it. Every time you do it, you learn something new about the process, about your body, about yourself. My biggest takeaway was it gave me direction more-- more or less. Like, it definitely gave me a sense of purpose, you know? I'd say before I went into that fast at 26, I was kind of floating a little bit through life. Didn't really know what my future looked like, which used to give me a little bit of stress and anxiety and things like that. But having done this fast, I felt like I found out what it is that I wanted to do, and that was to help people through these kind of same experiences: fasting, healing, and, like, allowing them to have a similar experience to what I did. And I can honestly say for the first time in my life, like, I'm passionate about what it is that I do and I love it. And I think the fast is the reason for that. Probably one of the biggest things I've learned is that, you know, you can do the most perfect fast in the world, but if you don't fix what you're doing every single day-- -Yeah. -What you're eating, your lifestyle like that-- that is the cause. Yeah, absolutely. You know, if you don't fix that, then fasting, you are gonna rely on that forever-- -Yeah. -You know? And fasting shouldn't be that. It should be something that promotes health and then your lifestyle, your diet, you know, your day to day stuff keeps you with that level of health. -Yes. Yeah. -Or even promotes it further. Build that foundation, and then from there fasting can be even more magical, -even more healing. -[Saxon] Mm-hmm. And you just get so much more out of it. It's a pretty surreal feeling to now be finished the fast and to now have come full circle working with Tyler as coaches when he was once upon a time our mentor. And to be able to give people the same experience that what we had and-- and to be able to-- them to be able to have, you know, the incredible results of healing and-- and mentally, emotionally, physically.

[Sinclair] And also to be able to share like, all the lessons and all the-- -[Saxon] Yeah. -[Sinclair] You know, the little challenges and, you know, call 'em like, mistakes or whatever that we made and be able to kind of help people around that and-- -Yeah. -Just give them -the ultimate experience. -Yeah. It's amazing to be able to do that with Tyler, with you, share our lifestyle with people. Yeah. [calm music plays] The journey continues, eh? ♪ [music stops]