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Well, you spoke several times before about ideological subversion. That is a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't fully understand. When the Soviets used the phrase ideological subversion, what do they mean by ideological subversion? It is the process which is legitimate, all word and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All you have to do, all American mass media has to do, is to unplug their bananas from their ears, open up their eyes, and they concede there is no mystery. There's nothing to do with espionage.
I know that espionage, intelligence gathering, looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising, probably. That's why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond type of thrillers. But in reality, the main emphasis of the KGB is not in the area of its intelligence at all. According to my opinion and opinion of many of the factors of my caliber, only about 15 percent of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85 percent is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion or active measures. Active, in the language of the KGB, or psychological warfare.
What it basically means is to change the perception of reality of every American to such an extent that despite of the abundance of information, no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interests of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and it's divided in four basic stages. The first one being demoralization. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years which requires to educate one generation of students in the country of of your enemy, exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism, American patriotism.
The result, the result you can see. Most of the people who graduated in the 60s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you, if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black. You still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rich society of these people, you have you need another 20 or or 15 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and and common common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the of the United States society.
And yet, these people have been programmed and as you say, in place, and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country. Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when when they will see in future what the what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will they will be very unhappy, frustrated people. And Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. They obviously they will join the links of these centers, dissidents. Unlike in present United States, there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America. Here you can you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident for criticizing your Pentagon. In future, these people will be simply squashed like cockroaches. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful noble ideas of equality. This they don't understand and it will be greatest shock for them.
Of course, the demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where previously not even Comrade On Drop Off and on all his experts would would even dream of such a tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans, thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him concentration camp, he will refuse to believe it until he he is going to receive a cake in his fat bottom when a military boot crashes. Then he will understand, but not before that. That's the tragic of the situation of demoralization. So basically, America is stuck with demoralization. And unless, even if if you start right now, this minute, you start educating new generation of Americans, it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of of ideological perception of reality back to normal normalcy and and patriotism.
The next stage is destabilization. This time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flub, it doesn't matter anymore. This time, and it takes only from two to five years to destabilize the nation. It's what what matters is essentials, economy, foreign relations, defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some areas, in such sensitive areas is defense and economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
The next stage, of course, is crisis. It may take only up to six weeks to to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in in Central America now. After crisis, with a violent change of power structure and economy, you have so-called the period of normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in '68, Comrade Brezhnev said, "Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized." This is what will happen in the United States if you allow all these schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind of goodies and the paradise on Earth, to to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put a big brother government in Washington D.C. with the benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, who will promise lots of things, never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind, he will create false illusions that the situation is under control. Situation is not under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control.
Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at a peacetime. Falls, United States is in the state of war, undeclared total war against the basic principles and the foundations of this system. And and the initiator of this war is not Comrade On Drop Off, of course. It's it's the system, however ridiculous it may sound, the world communist system or the world communist conspiracy. Whether it's scared some people or not, I don't give a hood. If you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you. But you don't have to be paranoid about it. What what actually happens now that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless the United States wake up. The the time bomb is ticking with every second. The disaster is coming closer and closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins. This is it. This is the last country of freedom and and possibility.
Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people? Well, the the immediate thing that comes to my mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in in the spirit of real patriots. Is number one. Number two, to to explain them the real danger of socialist, communist, whatever welfare state, big brother government. If people will fail to grasp the impending danger of that development, nothing ever can help United States. You make his goodbye to your freedom, including freedoms to homosexuals, to prison inmates. All this freedom will vanish, evaporating in five seconds, including your precious lives.
The second thing I, the moment at least part of United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to force their government. And I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all these beautiful noble activity. I am talking about forcing United States government to stop aiding communism. Because there is no other problem more burning and urgent than to stop the Soviet military-industrial complex from destroying what is whatever is left of the free world. And it is very easy to do. No credits, no technology, no money, no political or diplomatic recognition, and of course, no such idiots as great deals to USSR. The Soviet people, 270 million of Soviets will be eternally thankful to you if you stop aiding a bunch of murderers who sit now in the Kremlin and whom President Reagan respectfully calls government. They do not govern anything, least of all such complexity as the Soviet economy. So, basic two, two very simple, maybe two simplistic answers or solutions, but nevertheless, they are the only solutions. Educate yourself. Understand what's going on around you. You are not living at the time of peace. You are in a state of war. And you have precious little time to save yourself. You don't have much time, especially if you're talking about young generation. There's not much time left for convulsions to the beautiful disco music. Very soon it will go, just just overnight.
If we are talking about capitalists or or wealthy businessmen, they, I think they are selling the rope on which they will hang very soon. If they don't stop, if they cannot curb the unsettled desire for profit, and if they keep on trading with the monster of the Soviet communism, they are going to hang very soon. And they will pray to be killed, but unfortunately, they will be sent to Alaska, probably to manage industry of slaves. It's it's simplistic. I know it sounds unpleasant. I know Americans don't like to listen to things which are unpleasant. But I have defected not to tell you the stories about such idrises as microfilm, James Bond type espionage. This is garbage. You don't need any espionage anymore. I have come to talk about survival. It's a creation of survival of this system. You may ask me, what is it in for me? Survival, obviously, because unlike I, as I said, I am now in your boat. If we sing together, we'll sing beautifully together. There is no other place on this planet to defect to.