Disclosure Day Has Arrived! | L.A. Marzulli | Prophecy Recon

Welcome to the program. Joe Hawkins here. Well, here we are. Today is Disclosure Day. Well, it's at least the worldwide release of Stephen Spielberg's Disclosure Day, and I thought of nobody better other than La Marzulli to have on today to discuss his journey on this path to potential disclosure. So, let's go. All right.

Well, we have our good friend La Marzulli on. How you doing, LA?

>> I'm doing good, Joe. Thanks for having me on and welcome to the Prophecy Watchers uh team. How cool is that?

>> It it's amazing. Never never in a million years would have thought I'd be doing this, but here I am. I've spent the last 10 plus years watching you guys and reading and studying and um the Lord's opened doors. And it's one of those things when those kind of doors opened up, you have to be obedient to the Lord's calling because those doors don't stay open very long.

>> Amen. Amen. When you first began researching the UFO phenomena and Nephilim and this supernatural deception, you know, this topic was considered pretty fringy, right? So, what's it like seeing it dominate the mainstream media today?

>> Well, you know, some people have labeled me a prophet and I refuse to uh, you know, take that label. I'm just a sinner saved by grace. I don't like labels and you know, prophets and apostles and all this nonsense. It's just, you know, it makes makes someone get all puffed up. I'm not going with that. But, you know, the Lord the Lord directed my steps. This goes way back to 1990. That's how far back it goes. And I even before that, I had seen a UFO as as a child, a 12-year-old child. I was fascinated with UFOs, fascinated with extraterrestrials. Um, just read books by Peter Tomkins on the Great Pyramid. I mean, I was uh in when Stephen Spielberg came out with Close Encounters of a Third Kind. I mean, I watched that film over and over again. I actually wrote a song about it. You know, as you sit in silence waiting for the space alliance listening to the ringing in your ears and you know, you want to go. I was on the other side of the aisle. So, you know, I was a newager. I believed in Eastern mysticism, all that. So in 1990, now I'm a Christian now for about 10 years. So around 1988, 1990 circa, that window of time, a friend of mine asked me, well, you know what? Um, what about life on other planets? I had no answer. So I go down to the bookstore, Christian bookstore, and I purchased this book called The Omega Conspiracy by Dr. Id Thomas. That book changed my life. I read it in probably one or two sittings. He was the first guy to figure out that I had read that that unpacked the Genesis 6 narrative, the Nephilim narrative, and then tied it into uh Matthew 24, it'll be like a days of Noah, finally into the whole UFO phenomena. And I was just like, "Oh my gosh." And this is in the days before the internet. So I I tracked him down and found out he lived in Century City. And I asked if I could do an interview. He said yes. So we met and that was the beginning of a of a lifelong friendship. He passed away um 93 I think the year before my dad did. He was the same age as my father and uh both of them died of Alzheimer's which was kind of weird but um that opened up the whole vista which became the Nephilim which was based on basically almost a decade of research. the late David Flynn. I would talk to David. Um I actually sent the outline of Chuck Mistler uh when Chuck was obviously still alive and you know that some of that got into um his book at least we think so. In fact, when I was on Mistler's uh show, one of his, you know, underlings or people my eyes itching, sorry. um you know even stated how close this this my how close Nephilim was to Chuck Mistler and and Markeista's book. I'm not saying there was plagiarism involved but it was kind of cool that there were some connectivity between them. [snorts] So Nephilim came out in 1998 1999 hit the CBA bestseller list which was really cool. And um there was one one guy that wrote a a comment a comment or a review on Amazon. He said something like, "Well, this it's a great book by Elliot Marzulli, but one one thinks that he might believe a little too much of this literally. You bet your booties I do." So that's 1998. Uh the trilogy was finished in 2005. 2007 I came out with Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural. Um, right around that time is when actually a little further than that, more like 2012. But even even in 1999, I'll tell you a story. 1999, um, I I'm calling Dr. Roger Lear, emailing him, and I find out he lives in Thousand Oaks. It's like right over the hill. And we strike up a friendship. And so he's going to go down to this UFO meetup group and I'm going to meet him down there or at least you know have contact with him for the first time because uh there's a guy named Barry Chamish who just came out with a book from Israel on the Nephilim. And so I go down there I meet I meet Barry Chamish and I hold up my book Nephilim and he goes does a double take because it's the same title as his book. And anyway, so I meet Dr. for Roger Le down there. And I go, "Roger, I I understand you took out your first implant from an abductee." And he goes, "Yeah, would you like to see it?" I go, "Yeah, sure." And he reaches into his pocket. He takes out a little flask like this. This is a piece of um metal from the Roswell debris field right there.

>> Wow.

>> And we've had that analyzed. And it's an unknown aluminum alloy, but I digress as usual. So, I hold my hand out. He pops the top off and he puts this thing in my hand and I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'm holding an implant that was put in this guy by then. So, I remember I had a blog and I started talking about this. I was immediately ridiculed. I'm getting to the answer here. Immediately ridiculed by my Christian brothers and sisters, you know, oh, there's no physicality of the UFO phenomena. It's all just demonic delusion. Blah blah blah blah blah. Well, years later, we took out the implant from a meal. Richard Shaw, myself, Dr. Roger Lair, Dr. Matrician. It's all in our film in the Watchers series. It's in our film, the 10 Box DVD set, UFO Disclosure. We recapitulated that here. So, we've gone from being ostracized, being looked at sideways, being called a tinfoil hotwearing guy right there, or, you know, a conspiracy theorist. All those wonderful labels that people give other people, uh, without really looking at the evidence. It's just more convenient just to throw a derogatory label on somebody. Oh, he's a racist. And actually, let's why don't we just talk about what this guy believes versus what you believe.

So, enter 2017, which became the first wrong. I got all these props on my desk. The first rung. Oh, one one guy on I we did this YouTube thing on Spielberg. And of course, the trolls are there. Oh, now he's going to hawk his books. Excuse me. Excuse me. I'm not allowed to do that on my own show, you know, or somebody else's show. How do you think we keep the lights out here? Some people are so mean-spirited and really so stupid. But I digress as usual. So 2017, Commander David Fraver is on Tucker Carlson's show and Tucker Carlson introduces him by saying, "UFOs used to be the stuff of tinfoil hatwearing people and conspiracy theorists. Once again, labels, but maybe we shouldn't think that any longer." Commander David Fraver joins us. He was a former F-18 pilot and had a uh encounter with a tic tac shaped UFO. So there's Commander David Fraver on Tucker Carlson's show and I about fall out of my chair because Commander David Fraver states on the record that whatever this was was not from this earth and that was the first rung on on the ladder of disclosure that that led to the publication of his book by Charisma which by the way has been charting number one, number two, number six in its category on Amazon which I'm really blown away with. So, it's doing pretty well. But that was 2017. Now, fast forward to 2026. The book Runs of Disclosure only has 18 rungs on the ladder. We're going up. We are on rung number 29. And you know, a few weeks ago, Trump let the second dump of UFO footage and paperwork and all this stuff out to the public. So, we now know that the government has stated that the phenomenon is real. here here are the films here's the verbiage you know what everything was which was once classified now you can read it so that's really interesting we know from Congress that whistleblowers have come forward saying that not only do we have the crash craft but we have the bodies from the crash craft so all this is being revealed uh we had day of disclosure um which was by uh Dan Farah which led to our virtual conference where we had 10 speakers. Gary Steerman and Mando Gonzalez were part of that conference virtual conference. You can still see it by laarzulli.com and you can watch all 10 speakers for 20 bucks. So that was really cool and it was a response to uh you know day of disclosure because they're all saying they being um scientists and government officials, congressmen, congresswoman, senators, I mean Marco Rubio, Secretary of State and all these people are saying we are not alone in the universe. We are not alone in the universe. We are not alone on the earth. We're being visited. So all this is now out of the bag. It's no longer, you know, on coast to coast with George Zori, which I've been I've been on the show a couple of weeks back and um talking about the whole phenomena, but it's gone from fringe to mainstream. So, in that sense, to answer your question, I I feel vindicated in in some way. On the other hand, you know, I've been banging this drum for over 30 years. And now what you get is a lot of Johnny Johnny come lately who kind of pile on and well, have you ever taken out an implant? Have you ever gone to seal out with the implant? Have you ever taken a piece of drywall with a a four-fingered handprint on it with bulbous tips that was right by the window, very low, and the guy was abducted. You take that to seal lab and look at it under a scanning electron microscope and realize that the isotopic ratios were not human. I mean, right? Have you ever talked to an abductee? Have you ever taken the implant out of the abductee? You know, have have you ever counseledled abductees? Have you gone to the Roswell debris field? I mean, you know, we we've done all that. We've got 10 films on this, Kil Zimmerman and I. So, it it's in some ways it's annoying to see the Johnny come lately, you know, who act like they they're Mr. Know-it-alls and then, you know, some of us have been banging his drum with a lot of ridicule. I've been kicked out of churches for it, literally. Um, so in some ways, it's annoying. On the other hand, it's great that other other voices, you know, other authors are at least addressing the the situation. The problem is the Christian church is asleep. Our church, the churches are still asleep for the most part. Um, and that's very alarming. And you know, the Steven Spielberg film which is coming out, you know, today, right? It's actually the on the 10th, two days ago. And um, I did go see it and I will we I'm reporting on it. It's unbelievable. It was very, very disturbing. But the trailer that was a few weeks prior to that, the final trailer disturbed me like like you can't even believe. I was greatly vexed, really disturbed by what I was seeing. And so they're rolling this thing out and you know, is it Disclosure Day? Well, it's a film. I get that. And in the film, you know, they talk about uh this will change everything in the world. And it's true it will. But what people don't realize, and I actually talked about this a couple of weeks back at the Prophecy Watchers Conference in Colorado Springs, I I took Hello down there, which is from the 2024 Super Bowl ad, and you know, went through that frame by frame, scene by scene. We're being set up. Then I took Disclosure Day, the trailer for that, scene by scene. Then I took the Spielberg to his last trailer. This is before the movie came out obviously and and dissected that scene by scene by scene including what Stephen Spielberg was saying. So we are being set up for something and even now you know on on the 12th of of June the church is woefully asleep. I mean, you would think that my phone would be ringing off the hook. I am getting a lot of um you know podcast requests, television requests. I get that people were scrambling. They're trying to figure out, well, how do we how do we deal with this and my publisher, Charisma, is doing a great job setting some things up with, you know, some of these different shows, which I would never get on before. I was considered too fringe. So, to answer answer, you know, your question, yes, this is no longer fringe. It's reality. It's here. In some ways it vindicates my work but there's still sections of Christianity and if Gary and Gary Steamer were here and Mando Gonzalez was with us they'd chime in on the Nephilim that oh there is no seed war that's not literal you know oh it's a Sethite theory which wasn't invented till the 4th century and that that mindset has has colored the Christian church and then you get our millennialism mo a few weeks back did a debate with this guy who was an ardent amalillennialist and I mean, you know, you can debate the vicam you're not going to change well you might change a few people's attitude but you can see that if you're an amalillennialist you can't get there from here you don't understand anything because Israel to us as dispensationalists is God's prophetic time clock and we are seeing the words of Jesus come into fulfillment you know be like the days of Noah check we're here breeding program the mixing of the sea Gary Steerman taught me that Genesis Genesis 3:15. I mean, it's all coming down. Men, Fame from Fur coming upon the earth. Not yet, but boy, when they show up, you're going to have a lot of people passing out. Seriously, one thing to be looking at a TV set. It's another thing to look up and see a mile wide craft over the Los Angeles skyline. That is a gamecher, right? Even the elect would be deceived that that were possible. So, you know, something is coming and we're [snorts] being set up for it. And of course, you know, all the new ages, all the mainstream media, they're they're they're telling us what we're looking at. So, you got a few voices out there. Gary Steerman, Mondo, obviously pushes back. Tim Alberino, yours truly, pushing back against the narrative. That's why we had 10 speakers pushing back on that narrative on the uh from from the documentary Disclosure Day, day of disclosure.

>> Yeah. It it certainly should be more obviously and you answered probably two of my other questions right there. I mean, you know, do you feel validation? You obviously you feel vindicated because of what's going on. It certainly can be frustrating to see everybody else jumping on the bandwagon after years and years and years of of um gaslighting us basically is what's been happening, right? But, you know, you mentioned the Steven Spielberg the final trailer that was released. It it certainly seems like based on what he was saying, he either knows something or he absolutely wants it to be true because I believe the last thing that he said on that final trailer it's true, right? He said, "I want people to go from it could be true to where this film basically portrays this as truth." Um, that was very telling to me and like you said, very disturbing. It's it's it's so you know on that topic of you know the movie itself you know and the broader entertainment push surrounding disclosure um what is your thoughts on the entertainment's I guess role in you know basically conditioning this society or conditioning the public for this future potential disclosure that's actually going to happen. I mean, you have shows like Ancient Aliens, uh, the SK Secrets of Skinwalker Ranch. Of course, you have this movie, the and the documentary that you referred to. I mean, it seems like people are being conditioned to accept something, right?

>> Oh, this this is this is conditioning there. There's no doubt about it. And millions of people will watch the Spielberg film, you know, once it's released in the theaters. I mean, I've already seen it, but what about people when it hits Netflix and Prime and all this other stuff? millions more will look at it in the comfort of her living room. And um you know it's it's a gamecher because you know when when you when you look at a at a at a screen you're like this. You're not comeosse but you're you know you're you're looking at the screen and you're like this. You're just kind of staring and and and watching and it's all going in. So it's in some ways it's a form of conditioning on some level and it's you've got the greatest one of the greatest filmmakers in all of history Steven Spielberg and the chemistry is incredible. The acting and the I mean everything it's an A1 movie. It's absolutely incredible. So you have all this but what are they promagating? They're not promagating the biblical narrative.

>> You know they're saying that there's life elsewhere and we're being visited. And I'm I don't want to give away, you know, the plot here. I don't want to do that. But it's um it's not what we believe. I think it's safe for me to say that.

>> Now, now, do you think in reference to just the broader entertainment push, do you think that people are being conditioned to reinterpret spiritual entities as extraterrestrials?

>> Well, yeah. This has been going on for thousands of years. They've been here for thousands of years. They they pop in, they pop out, they manifest, they go back. And we don't understand the particulars of that. We know that there's a heavenly war. We know that the heavenly war continues. We know from the book of Daniel that Daniel prays, the angel dispatched, 21 days later, he shows up. The meantime, before that 21 days, he has to fight the prince of Persia. He can't do an end run. There's some sort of a tunnel or a gateway or a portal, and he's got to go through that to get to Daniel from one dimension to another. Now, that's conjecture, but it's based on the scripture because in order for the angel to show up for Daniel, he's got to fight the prince of Persia. He's no match for the prince of Persia. That's telling in itself. He's got to get Michael, you know, the archangel to come and fight. How many guys do they fight? Is it a handful? Is it a skirmish? Does the battle last 15 days? You get what I'm going with this? We're not told any of that. Is it a 10-day battle, a three-day battle, a 15-day battle? Because the angel's dispatched the moment that the prayer goes up. Gee, I wish that was more often for all of us who pray, right? But it takes it takes 21 days for that messenger to get to Daniel. And he's fighting and then he has to go get reinforcements. How many reinforcements? Wouldn't you like to know that number? And how do they fight? Wouldn't you like to know that? Wouldn't we like to see a video uh of the angels fighting? I know I would. I can't wait. But they're fighting. Flaming swords, lightsabers, possible, but they can be wounded in my opinion.

>> They can't be killed because they're eternal beings. But they can be wounded. And in other words, Michael overcomes the prince of Persia and his cohorts and allows the good messenger to come in. It's the late Chuck Muscle used to say it's one of the few places in the Bible where we actually get a glimpse of the supernatural world.

>> You know, so we have the governments, they're all suddenly interested in this, you know, UFO phenomenon. And do you believe that which we know and those watching this now and and there may be some that are tuning in that maybe they don't feel maybe they don't really understand the biblical narrative of this UFO. what what UFOs have to do from the biblical standpoint, but do you think that from the I guess the secular worldview, do you believe that the disclosure movement is going to be genuine or is it controlled?

>> Well, it's controlled in the sense that the government gave us two dumps. That's controlled. But we haven't seen any my wide craft, have we?

>> That that's on that's on their timetable.

>> Yeah. and they will show up on their timetable, not ours. So, we can parade dead bodies out, parts of the craft, original clippings from Roswell. Let me just show you this. So, this is this is July 8th. And Spielberg covers this

>> except it's July 7th. and he shows the army and the film crew and the bodies and the records and the whole thing. Well, this is July 8th, but July 9th, we get this and one of the characters I think it's okay for me to say this. You know, Remy says, "Excitement not justified." So, he empties the saucer. It's the weather balloon. And there's a there's an actor in the film. It's in the trailer. So, I think I can say this. I don't want to give away the film, but the actor goes, "This 79year-old coverup has to end." And he's like real passionate about it. IT'S LIKE, "AH, IT'S OKAY. I GET IT. I GET IT. You're doing maybe a little on the nose, but we love you anyway. He's very, very earnest. The character he plays very, very earnest. The 79year-old coverup has to end." And he's right. [snorts] So, this is why when Spielberg gets up and says it's more truth than fiction, did he see the original footage from 1947 and just recreate it? In my opinion, all day long. That's conjecture.

>> That's what I think. That's what I think. So, do you think whether whether it be disclosure or whether it be an actual event, do you think that this is going to be used to unite the world under a common cause or threat?

>> Absolutely. I actually talked about that um at not the last prophecy conference, although I did allude to it, but the one before that. How do we get to a one world government, a one world religious system? If you have a think about this, uh Vladimir Putin has been um telegraphing the use of nukes. Turkey just got its first intercontinental ballistic missile. North Korea has a kill switch which states that if if Kim Jong-un is assassinated, they will launch the nuke. Am I making this up? I'm not I wish I was, but I'm not. Pakistan has nukes, India has nukes. There's too many nukes running around here. We have nukes. All it takes is one. There was a film that came out, House of Dynamite, and they show this. They show this um they show the event from three different perspectives. This filmically, it's really a cool way to present it. And the first the first presenter is an insider. You know, he's in the underground bunker. This thing's launched. And they're trying to figure out who launched it. We don't know who launched it. So, the information comes in. The Russians are saying, "No, North Koreans, we didn't do it. ChaComs, nope, it's not ours." Everybody deny, deny, deny. But this thing's coming in. And of course, they try to f they fire a missile, but it misses. It doesn't intercept. And 15 minutes later, it's going to hit Chicago. 10 million people will die. That's the first. And then the third one is is the president of the United States. His point of view in dealing with all this. So, it's a very very interesting why why to make a film like this? Because in my opinion, if you have a nuclear event anywhere on the planet, and I wrote about this in shameless plug, rungs of disclosure, but it's true. If you ever, this is what I believe is the last rung on the latter of disclosure. This conjecture now, right? And I I repeated this a gazillion times, but there's new people that come here. So, a gazillion and one is good. And and here's what I think. You have a nuclear event anywhere on the planet. It creates the greatest climate of fear that mankind has ever experienced collectively. That's when they show up.

>> The currency fear is the currency of the kingdom of darkness. Faith is the currency of the kingdom of light. Jesus's kingdom. Faith and fear are mutually exclusive. They are. You can't walk in faith if you're fearful. I know I can't and I know you can't either. Nobody can. It's either one or the other. You have a nuke going off. It creates the greatest climate of fear mankind has ever experienced together. That's when they show up. They will say, "We genetically manipulated all life on this planet. We started the world's civilization, started the world's religions. Now, at this critical juncture in human history, we your space brothers, ET, your progenitors are here to usher mankind into a golden age."

>> I'm not making this up. I'm not making this up. That that and and it will lead to the worm world government, warmer world religious system." Absolutely. all day long.

>> And and that plot that you just spit out right there is seems like the plot for every movie that's come out over the past 10 years because like I said, back to the preconditioning aspect of it.

>> And you know, there's something that you say pretty often whenever you're at conferences. um you know, do you think that it's going to be a UFO type invasion that's either going to explain away the rapture that's going to be used to really help people, I guess, cope with what just happened after the rapture happens?

>> This is the pamphlet and I read it I read portions of it at, you know, the prophecy conference a couple of weeks ago, right? Or a couple of days ago, I should say. So, what is the truth? And there there's the UFO, right? And this is one of the this is channelneled information. It's coming through voice to skull or the occult technique of automatic writing. We are here. We are the play of the humanity is learning a great lesson at this time. The lesson is of course to realize your godhood. Where have we heard that before way back in the garden? You know, God knows that the day you eat the fruit, you'll be like God. Nothing's changed in thousands of years. Gee, I wonder who the author of this is. If human beings do not change, if they do not make the shift in values and realize that without earth they could not be here, then earth and its love for its own initiation is reaching for a higher frequency will bring about a cleansing that will balance it once again. So what is this cleansing Joe?

>> Brace yourself folks. There is a potential for many people to leave the planet in an afternoon. The people who leave the planet during a time of earth changes do not fit here any longer and they are stopping the harmony of the earth. And up we go.

>> They they've already explained they have already explained the rapture of the church. So for those of you who don't believe in the rapture, think again. The other side knows because they can read scripture too. They know uh first Thessalonians right 4 is it 4:16 I think it is Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the archangel that whole deal dead in Christ will rise first be who are alive and remain caught up together with those in the clouds to greet the Lord in the air there I go I can't wait can't wait and it's going to happen

>> but but the new age has already explained the way the rapture of a church

>> has already explained the way you So, [clears throat] and it's not this, you know, we disintegrate and all the clothes are laying there. It's we go up slowly. Elijah Elijah sees Elisha sees Elijah go up. Watches him go up. The apostles see Jesus go up. He doesn't go whoop. He probably goes up slowly. And knowing knowing Jesus the way I've walked with him for 46 years. Conjecture. Conjecture. Right. Does he wave one last time? Does he give him a thumbs up as he's going up? Does he do a little tap dance? I mean, you know, Ellie, how can you how can you make fun of the most? Look, Jesus walks on water. He didn't have to do that.

>> He didn't have to [clears throat] do that. You know, get in the boat and I'll I'll catch up with you guys later. It's like, what's wrong with this picture? You know, the same Jesus pops through the wall after the resurrection. You know, the gentle Jesus without any type of humor would have gone, "Guys, I'm at the door to the room here now. This might freak you out, but I've risen from the dead. I'm going to open the door in the count of three. Ready? One, two, three. Here I am." Tada. He doesn't do that. He pops through the wall knowing that it's going to completely freak them out. I mean, he knows it. If that's not deliberate, if that's not And these are his buds. These are his best friends and it's all guys up there as far as we know. There doesn't seem to be any women during that that first encounter even though you know the Marys have already seen him [clears throat] especially Mary Magdal's already seen him have tried to embrace him. I mean that the whole thing is just so incredible. But you know the gentle Jesus would have knocked on the door. He doesn't do that. He's pulling a fast one on all of his all of his buds and then he goes what do you guys got to eat? I mean it's such a total guy thing but we we don't read it that way. we, you know, and and I get it. It's a holy, incredible moment. But in the midst of the holiness that's there because it's his resurrected body, there's humor because that's who he is. You know, one more example. So Peter goes, "Oh my gosh, I got to pay the taxes. What am I going to do?" Cuz you know, Mrs. Peter, Peter's wife, is like nagging at him. We got to pay our taxes and you're running out with the rabbi. How's this going to happen? We're going to lose the house. Right? So Jesus, we all know the story, but in churches it's done. And then Jesus told the Apostle Peter, "Lo, go down to the to the river to the sea and cast your net. There you will find the fish with a gold coin in its mouth. Pay all taxes and my taxes. Will the men please come forward and receive the morning offering?" It's like, you know, are you kidding me? So Peter and John or who knows how many others go down and they they do what they're told to do. They throw their line in. They catch the fish and they're looking at each other. You check his mouth. No, no, I'm not doing it. You check it. And he opens it. Oh my gosh. Pulls out the gold coins. And what are they doing? Oh, thank you, Jesus. No, they're cracking up. They can't even believe this. This goes against everything that they know. And one of them has to go, maybe we should cast it out. Maybe there's more out there. Right? So, I mean, you know, there's but there's no humor in the Bible. LA, are you kidding me? It's rife with it. It's everywhere you look. If you look at it through that type of a lens for those Christians right there, what would you have to say to them? You know, how do they should process this uh topic biblically?

>> Well, before I answer that, in the film, and you know, again, I'll go back in the trailer because that's what I don't want to I don't want to give away the plot too much, but everybody is on their stupid cell phones in in the subway and they're like this. They're not happy campers. There's another scene where they're all holding up this there's there's the picture. They're all looking at their cell phones and they're filming stuff and then a newscaster, we interrupt this program for a special I mean, you know, it's all this is a global event.

>> [clears throat]

>> is absolutely a global event. So here's what you need to realize. This is from Paul writing to first Timothy. The spirit expressly states that and I got this from Gonzalez. Why? Because we were arguing about first Thessalonians chapter 4. Do not be troubled in morted that the day of the Lord has come and our gathering to him will that day will not come until the aposta happens. problem is there's three interpretations, maybe four, for what that is. Mondo believes that that passage is written to the Jews. I don't. Tommy Ice believes, without putting words in Mr. ISIS's mouth, that the word apostasia means, guess what? We go up again. I don't believe that. I believe that it's exactly what it is. It's a falling away. It's an apostaceia. Why? 1 Timothy chapter 4. And Mondo was the one who actually hoisted himself up on his own petard, as it were. uh by giving me that verse. Mondo, I love you. But but the deal is this. The spirit expressly states to in the latter days, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and the doctrines of demons. I'm not making this up. Some will depart from the faith. Why? Because they are giving heed. They are listening. They are looking at. They are conversing. They are taking into their spirit man or woman. the doc the the seducing spirits and the doctrine of demons. Guess what? Guess what? Know that scripture and understand that don't be deceived. I mean, if if you go on our website and you look at the number nine and 10 in this what is the truth and you watch this those two films, you can go to streaming.la.net. You can buy the whole set from prophecy watchers. You know, you got to do your homework. We're on for 35 or 40 minutes. has 34 films and 16 books for crying out loud. Number 16 comes out this fall, the Luciferian Endgame, If we're Still Here, which talks about, you know, the whole politics prophecy of the supernatural stuff and the conflict with Israel and prophecy and all the way it all converges. But it points to the UFO phenomena and you can see it behind me that kicks off the great deception. Some of you watching this will be deceived, will be taken in. So, how do you not be deceived? Well, do your homework. As Chuck Mesler said, we have a few minutes left here. I can't possibly unpack abductions, crop circles. We do in the films, close encounters of the first, second, third, and fourth kind. It's in the film. The abduction phenomena, two men, two women, all were taken. Cow mutilations. The darkest film I have ever worked on. And we tie that in that the the blood from from a cow can be altered and used in a human transfusion. Are these entities creating artificial wombs? Because when the woman is impregnated by them in the third month of the first trimester, she is reabducted. This hybrid fetus is taken from her. It has to live in an artificial womb. They're creating artificial wombs. And in the film, we show that the Japanese are already doing that. They are they are experimenting with artificial wombs. I watched something today where they had an artificial womb for a chicken a chicken and a chicken hatched out of the artificial womb. I'm not making this up, folks. It's the days of Noah on steroids. But if you say anything about it, well, we just want to talk about Jesus here. Like, okay, let's just talk about Jesus. Men f from fear when it's coming upon the earth because the powers of heaven will be shaken. So, that's Jesus's own word. Even the elect would be deceived if that were possible. That's Jesus's own words. It'll be like the days of Noah when I return. What differentiates the days of Noah? If you don't know Genesis 3:15, you can't possibly figure out Genesis 6 because you'll embrace the Sethite theory. Nothing you see here. Keep moving and you'll never understand the Bible in my humble opinion. Never get it at all. So that's Jesus. Then Paul the spirit expressly states in the latter days apart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrine of demons. What does that mean? Jesus only people. I just gave you Jesus only. So, well, we're not going to talk about that because it might unsettle some people. Excuse me. You need to talk about it because it's happening right now. Your government has stated that the phenomenon is real. The Spielberg movie puts it over the top. This thing is coming down and the church is asleep. Um, you know, I live in those Santa Monica Mountains outside of Los Angeles, the middle of nowhere essentially, and I'm surrounded by churches. Not one, not one has asked me to speak. 34 films, 15 books, and number 16 is coming out. And some people call me the OG, the original guy. And in some ways I am, but I stand on the shoulders of Dr. IDE. Thomas and Chuck Mistler and people before him, GH Peber. I've just taken their work and just moved it down field a little bit. Actually, a lot. 34 films is is a lot of work. I mean, it really is. Ted Phillips of a whole UFO phenomena. So I don't care, you know, don't invite me to your church and I, you know, locally, I'll go locally because I don't have to fly or I can just drive there. But I when the Lord took us off the conference trail last year, 2025, we canceled 16 conferences. So we don't do those any conferences except for the Prophecy Watchers because I'm a board member and that's that's my tribe. That's our tribe. That's, you know, you're you're a tribal member, own a tribal member, but you are and we think alike. We're dispensationalists, which is the only way to go in my opinion because if you're all millennials, you can't get there from here. You just can't.

>> Thanks for having me on. God bless you and God bless Prophecy Watchers and God bless all you that watch these um this interview and I hope it was informative in some