Lisbon Has Fallen... Find Out Why 🇵🇹

20 years ago, the population here was 90% Portuguese, and now it's 1%. Lisbon, the largest city in Portugal, has seen a surge in mass migration. Under the previous government, Portugal had one of the most open border schemes in Europe, creating a backlog of over 400,000 pending immigrant cases that aimed to be solved by the summer of 2025.

"You go there, you feel like you're in Portugal. You don't feel like you're in Portugal. Lisbon, it's like, we go outside, they come here." And this is happening all over the world.

The influx of migrants from poor nations such as Nepal, India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh is said to have created social discontent with the locals, with accusations of increased criminality within communities and lack of integration. "Bad smell, criminality, insecurity, they're not working, they're living off of welfare."

Additionally, with Portugal facing a housing crisis, instead of blaming these guys, why don't the government just build more housing to fit the 12 sisters and brothers? Or is Lisbon just full? Does multiculturalism work? Should Portugal be so welcoming? And although immigration laws have become stricter, is it too little too late? So, I went to Lisbon to find out for myself. Join me.

Okay, so I'm in the main center of Lisbon here, and as you can see, it's very, very touristy. Lots of tourists come here, obviously, to join a holiday. But if you look very closely, the workers, they're not Portuguese. Most of them are from Southeast Asia. You've got lots of Indians, Pakistanis, and, uh, kind of similar to what we're seeing all over Europe. When you enter the more touristy areas, you get also different diversities and cultures in those, in those tourist hot spots. Got a beggar here, yeah. And you've got guys like this guy in the white hoodie, probably just selling, uh, selling hash. A lot of drug dealers on the street, I've noticed as well. So, kind of what happens, you know, you get low-skilled workers who come here, but you also get a couple of criminals who just stand on the street selling drugs. I mean, I'm not going to, they're not going to chat to me whilst I'm filming, but that's why they're kind of just lingering on the street corners.

One thing I noticed in Lisbon, especially in the city center, is that you do get a lot of beggars, and they all congregate in these kind of areas, as you can see here, literally outside the church, you know, using the generosity of the locals and religious people, I guess. But look at it, a lot of people just sitting around, kind of doing nothing. Yeah, it happens a lot. I've seen it everywhere. They're not tourists as well, that it's clear they actually do live here. And, yeah, here you see a lot of them congregating, just sitting about.

After struggling to find Portuguese locals to interview, I eventually came across some people in Lisbon who were either from here or had lived here long enough.

"What's your thoughts on migration in Portugal?"

"Um, I think it's definitely increased in the last years. Even I've lived here for 3 years, and I can already tell it's just skyrocketed. I mean, it's a good thing, but it's also a little bit difficult for locals."

"Recently, it has been a little out of control, not that there are too many people entering, but that the people that do enter aren't offered the commodities so they can live a good life with a good life quality as they hoped when they come to, when they came to our country. And so they have to resort to sometimes a life of crime and etcetera, and that's where a lot of the stereotypes of migration come. They should know the basics, and we should be able to work with them and offer them conditions. If they don't have conditions, it's stupid, they shouldn't be here."

"There's been studies on how it depends on what kind of immigration. So, like, high-qualified immigration is good for the country that is receiving that. Also, if we promote this idea of, if you're a good and a skilled person, just go to a place where they'll pay you better or where the conditions are better, then are you giving up on your own culture? Are you giving up on your own country? That's not good. Like, you see that's, uh, basically what happens with Africa a lot, like the brightest people get opportunities to move somewhere else, and they learn and they get skills, and then they don't want to go back, which is understandable, like, get used to better conditions. But then what happens is those countries get stuck with the bad people in power because the good people just leave."

"Should we be letting in illegal migrants into the country?"

"I think they shouldn't be illegal, that's the main point. And the, the, the big problem starts from how they arrive here. They have to have the proper conditions to come here so they are proper welcome."

"What about those who are refugees and fleeing war? Do you think they should come to Portugal?"

"When they say they should go to the, the first safe country. I think Portugal is a good option. I think Portugal has like a good system, uh, the healthcare is good, and, um, yeah, I would, I would advise them to come here, definitely. Yeah, I'm all for helping out people that are escaping war and need a safe place to live and stay."

"Why should Portugal, who is not like a very stable economy, take refugees from another part of the world instead of the neighbor countries of places in conflict? Why don't they take their neighbors who are more culturally similar to them? Like, why should the Europeans take in refugees from the Middle East?"

"I'm not saying we should be called to that, I'm not saying we should, we should demonize them, but maybe there's a better way to help. It goes back to what I was saying, which is, does it really help to bring people here? You're just letting the bad people there take control, you know? Like, maybe we should help people there. I don't know which is better for them. In fact, so if Portugal is easier for them to reach, if I was in a difficult situation in my life, I would go for the best place that will welcome me."

"Some, um, obviously do work and work very hard. What about those who are just a strain on the system and claim social housing and welfare?"

"Um, it depends. I don't know. Some people have it really hard, and they, they can't find jobs, that's why they try to benefit from the system. But I think they should, like, benefit, but also like try to contribute to the society. No social credit, hell no. But, but I'm against that in any case. Like, I think we should have charity for sure, but I don't think we should take from some people to give it to give to others. I wouldn't say give them handouts. Of course, some financial help is always welcome, but I believe that the most important thing is job integration because most of them come here, don't know Portuguese, don't know English, and so they can't get a job even if they want to. So I would say that the government needs to provide ways for them to be able to provide for themselves."

"Some people say that the migrants that do come over should integrate rather than kind of impose their culture into into areas that they live. Do you think that that's a good thing or bad thing?"

"I, I, I agree to a certain extent. I think they should definitely like try to like, um, integrate, but, um, not, um, get like assimilated. Um, if it's work, yeah, there's a saying that in Rome, you are Roman, you know, Romanian? No, Roman. So when you go to a country, you have to have in mind that you have to respect their culture and in a way, kind of, um, be insert in their culture, obviously not forgetting yours, but you should not, um, enforce, enforce your culture."

"Do you think that's happening right now in Lisbon?"

"It might, it might happen because not everyone thinks like that. If people live a certain way, and you want to move there, it's because they're doing something better than wherever you come from. So you cannot go with an attitude of, oh, I'm going to bring something new. Like, no, because you should adapt. It's like, you don't go to someone's house and say, you should start walking barefoot, or you should paint your house blue, or something. No, like, you might suggest, but you're not, should not go with an aggressive attitude or something."

"Do you think we should be importing cultures that are similar to Portugal, such as maybe Brazilian people who speak Portuguese? Like importing only those people or have more of those than say other cultures?"

"I think it's natural that people will find places similar to their cultures to migrate to. Let's say, me, I found Portugal because it's similar to my culture. Yeah, I think it's a good idea, but also we need to like have in mind that Portugal colonized different countries in Africa. So I think it's good to bring them here as well. They speak the language."

"Some Portuguese people feel like they should be kind of ashamed of their history and that's why they're they're less patriotic. Is that kind of like a, you know, guilt-tripping them in a way?"

"Maybe. I feel like, yeah, they should be ashamed to a certain extent because they colonized many countries in Africa. But, um, I think it's good, like, they're giving them an opportunity."

"You think at the minute Lisbon is importing too many migrants from from countries that don't share similar cultures and values to to Portugal?"

"The cultural aspect is a very sensitive topic in Lisbon right now because there has been some discrimination because of that. But I wouldn't say that there are too many migrants. I would say that there are too many for the conditions we are able to provide. Most people that come from those regions, they just, they're honest people who are very hardworking, love to work, and do their part to help the community. So, at least from my opinion, that's the vast majority. If you see right here, most of these Uber Eats guys are like Indian and stuff, you know, they're just working hard day and night."

"So, as you saw previously, you get a lot of people selling stuff on the street, and, um, here you've got this big blanket of scarves and what happens is when they have all these scarves and a big blanket, when the police comes, they can just quickly lift it up and run away. Here's what you have. So, yeah, kind of what happens when when cities get overrun by these types of migrants in certain countries. That's what they do to literally get by. Literally flooded with it. Look at it here as well. I mean, that's the kind of argument that people make is that there's not enough local people here, they're just literally going to be filled in migrants doing this kind of stuff. I mean, it's not something you expect to see in, uh, Portugal. Maybe one of these third world countries, you might find this sort of thing, but that's that's what ends up happening."

"My son, yeah, you can't really go a couple meters now without seeing any of these people selling all sorts of stuff from scarves to shirts. I mean, this is what happens. This is kind of feels a bit like Paris, and that's what happens when you just get mass migration. People just find anything they can sell. They can't work in the shops because they probably don't even speak the language, and that's what they kind of resort to, and it turns into this kind of, yeah, I mean, what do you even call it? I mean, look at it behind all the fancy shops and touristy areas that you see. This is the reality of how Lisbon is becoming."

"I couldn't find hardly any Portuguese people here. Obviously, I know it's a tourist destination, but bloody hell, you expect to see the odd Portuguese person walking around, but you can't. Just full of tourists, and the people who are working are migrants, even from Southeast Asia or Africa. I mean, no locals at all. Absolutely flooded with it. I mean, homeless man here begging on the street, so there must be poverty with the locals as well as migrant people coming over. I mean, nothing wrong with people working hard and trying to earn a living, but when does it come a point where there's just too much of it, and how can a country accommodate so many in the future?"

"How do you guys feel in Lisbon at the minute? Do you feel like migrants are taken over and the kind of culture is being pushed out completely?"

"Yeah, uh, so if you go to other places in Portugal, it's completely different. Like Lisbon is becoming one of those like big cities of the world. Like, it's not big in population, but the, the environment is the same. Like, it's going to that point of, like, let's say Paris a few years ago or New York. Crime is not so bad here, but it's starting to get worse as well. You can see it on the street. Yeah, you see the demographic changing. Yeah, more homeless people, and, uh, you definitely feel less Portuguese. As a Portuguese person, you feel less Portuguese in Lisbon than in most places. Even in the other big city, like not as big, but like Porto or Braga, which are the other two big cities in Portugal. You go there, you feel like you're in Portugal. You don't feel like you're in Portugal. Lisbon, which is ironic because a lot of the characteristic places in Portugal, of the Portuguese traditional places, are in Lisbon, but those feel like tourist attractions and not like the environment itself, you know what I mean? It's too much for us, and that is bad."

"Too many Indians don't don't speak Portuguese or any English. Don't speak English. That is the big problem. To speak them, yeah, you know, that's like the whole point of migration. I think always look for a better, better place of living. Maybe for us, this isn't good enough anymore, but for them, this is better than the place they were before. So if you can always find something better, maybe you go to Germany. And you ask them, what do you think about the amount of Portuguese people that have been migrating here? They'll probably say the same thing, you know."

"Do you think it's more to do with the government why there are some problems in Portugal right now?"

"Yes, yes, yes, of course."

"What are some issues that the Portuguese people are facing?"

"Our minimum wage is is crazy. It's like 800 euros per month. A bedroom here in a shared apartment in Lisbon is an average of 500. So it's, it's really difficult for us to keep, um, a even way of life."

"Some people argue that, yeah, for example, minimum wage is so low that migrants coming over, say from Southeast Asia or Asia in general, are lowering those wages because they can accept a lower, a lower salary."

"Yes, as soon as we started, and I already worked and hospitality, per se, like in kitchen, and when we started saying no to the salaries, well, they started getting. I even read an article that they had to to hire people from the Philippines because they were accepting. But in the end, that happens because they have to pay a lot of taxes when you have a restaurant or when you have something. So in the end, they don't have the possibility to, uh, raise their salaries because they have to pay a lot to the government. Small local businesses, Portuguese, Portuguese people are not opening them. Those are being opened like, especially downtown and in main Lisbon. Those are being opened by Ukrainians, Dutch, Irish, English, French. Sometimes like richer people. Like we have a lot of immigration from Bangladesh. Mostly are not rich, definitely. But there's a few that come here with a lot of money, and they take advantage that they have a lot of people from their background as like a workforce that they can kind of cheat on."

"Why do you think Portugal is so attractive at the minute?"

"Well, good weather, first of all. And I think we have a system that works. And that, well, it's not perfect because we have some immigrants without conditions, but we have a system that kind of works and offers people that live in countries that are not even close to Portugal a chance to live better and to get money for their families."

"I've heard from, um, other, like, I've heard from migrants that it's, um, easier to seek asylum here and get a permanent resident."

"You think that's down to government being too soft? They need to be stricter on migration and the borders?"

"No, I think they should stop incentivizing, which is different. I don't think we should restrict people that want to come here. I think that if people come here with bad intentions, and the culture is strong enough, those people will not get an easy life, and they will have to move out or they will not progress life."

"Say the government don't start helping businesses to employ more Portuguese people, won't there soon come a time where there's not many Portuguese people left to employ? They've all gone to another country."

"Yes, that is happening all over. We had, at some point, we had a really huge crisis in like 2008 or 2009, I don't know for sure, but I remember that our prime minister, he told everyone in the conference like, guys, there's really nice jobs outside of Portugal. So it's like, we go outside, they come here, and this is happening all over the world."

"Do you think the people coming over at the minute are just economic migrants, in the sense that they just come here for money?"

"Yeah, the lower, like, the poorest people, yeah, they only come here for the money. There's some, like, like I said, the people that that open businesses, they come here for the good weather. They come here because Portugal is cheap for them, which is also economic. Maybe they like the people here are nice. Well, it's not purely economical, like it's other kinds of conditions that they're looking for. I don't see anyone moving here because of the culture. I don't see that, like, in the terms of traditional culture. Some people move, for example, to Paris because they romanticize, or to Amsterdam, yeah, or even to the US because they romanticize the culture. People don't do, don't do that in Portugal. They come here for utilitarian reasons. Oh, it rains a lot in my country, so I'm going to go to Portugal because it rains less. Oh, I can't make money in my country, so I'm going to go to Portugal because I will be able to make money, even if not a lot. Basically, Portugal becomes a, how can I say, dormitory? Like, like people come here to sleep and work, and the culture is dying, you know."

"Do you think it could be problematic just by welcoming everyone? Do you think Portugal should do that?"

"I don't know. I don't think it's problematic, but too many people in a small country. I don't think it's about the country, it's about more the Lisbon itself, you know? Right instead of coming to Lisbon, you could go, like, not not elsewhere, but Lisbon in specific. It's very crowded. Yeah, very crowded right now. Yeah, like Martim Moniz, been there, there's a huge Indian community. Like, most restaurants there are, you know, Indian. A lot of Japanese stores too. It's the community. If you go there, Martim Moniz, by yourself, you'll see the how big the Indian community is there."

So I went there and met with Afonso, the founder of Reconquista, the largest political movement in Portugal that isn't a political party. They represent the Portuguese youth, for whom immigration has spiraled out of control and that Portugal is losing its identity. But before we do that, as you can see, I'm not in Portugal, I'm in London. And as you can imagine, traveling around, the costs add up. That's why I partnered with S, the sponsor of this video. Before going on any trip, I make sure I have S installed. There's no need to change out SIM cards or waste time going to a local shop trying to find one, or have the fear of coming back with a 100 phone bill after traveling. They're an affordable eSIM, which is basically a digital version of a SIM card. I like how convenient it is to use. Just select whatever country you're in, choose your data plan, and enter the promo code before checkout to get online. Now I can make calls and use maps to find Martim Moniz Square without having to worry about my data. So if your plans go anywhere, you can get an exclusive 15% discount on S's data plans using my promo code Wesley Winter. What a bargain! Please click the link in the description or pin comment to download S, not only to support the channel, but to get a great deal, saving your time and hassle whilst traveling. Thank you S for sponsoring this video and making it possible.

Back to Lisbon. It's actually very ironic because this is the Martim Moniz Square. Martim Moniz was one of the big Portuguese people who helped to reconquer, reconquer Lisbon. He helped to take that castle there that you can see. Oh yeah, so we took that from the Moors, from the Muslims, and then they gave this square the name Martim Moniz in his honor. And now, unfortunately, but very ironically, it's full of immigrants, third world immigrants.

"And when did you start to notice it?"

"Well, I started to notice it 3, 4 years ago. Antonio Costa was our socialist prime minister. He changed a lot of the immigration laws, nationality laws. He made a lot of agreements with Morocco, India, Pakistan, Brazil, Angola, to have immigrants coming here. And as you can see, we're on a work day, today's Thursday at 4 p.m., and these people are not working. You can see they're not actually producing anything. They're just sitting around, looking at us as if we are the actual foreigners. They're looking at me, as a Portuguese person, as if I am the actual foreigner. They're not really producing anything, they're just sitting around."

"But isn't that sometimes the case with diversity, multiculturalism, that sometimes you're just going to get low-skill workers? And, I mean, if they don't come here, where do you think they should go?"

"Yeah, well, if they, if they don't come here, I really don't care where they should go. I think they should solve their own problems in their own countries, and it shouldn't be up to us Portuguese people to help these people out. And even culturally, I think we've allowed the xenophile idea to take charge of our culture, where we feel a sense of guilt, and we feel we need to repay these cultures and these people by bringing them here and allowing them to have easier conditions than our own people. It's really become, this area has really become a metaphor, not because it's, let's say, an exception, but because it is an, an e-space that represents, as I said, not an exception, but actually represents what's happening slower, but progressively, but surely, in a lot of different other areas. They used to say, look, Lisbon is invaded, Lisbon is ethnically replaced. But it's not just Lisbon, it's Lisbon, it's the Algarve, it's areas of Porto, it's Braga with the Brazilian community, it's areas of Valente. We have 25% immigrants in Portugal. That's a fourth of our population. That's more than, uh, was it Dublin? Not too long ago, I think there's about 20%. Saying 25. That's 25. And I heard it's also increased over 33% or something since last year."

"Why, why has it been such a big jump actually in the last 3 years?"

"Our immigration, our legal, legal immigration numbers went from 400,000 to more than 1,400,000. So in 3 years, it went up more than 1 million. Actually, it might be like 5 years, it went up more than 1 million, just the legal immigrants. So that's just illegal immigrants. If you factor in also the illegal immigrants, which will probably be around half a million or maybe more, then there is also the ones who already have Portuguese citizenship. They're not Portuguese, but they pretend to be Portuguese because they have a card saying they are Portuguese, right?"

"I mean, they're just walking down the street. I don't, I don't really feel like we're in Portugal. Yeah, we're not really, we're not really in Portugal here because there's no Portuguese shops, no Portuguese people. And look, we don't have anything against these people. We don't have anything against them. We wish them all the very best in India, in Pakistan, or in Bangladesh. But here, actually, we would actually like to have our own culture, our own businesses, our own people, our own people employed, our own people as employees, as employers. And this is actually not the case. You look around to your right, to your left, there's not a single Portuguese shop here, but there's like 20 phone shops. You don't need 20 phone shops in a 20 square meter radius."

"But people could also argue these are businesses and adding to the economy, adding to the, you know, people are buying and selling, money is moving, been around in these spaces."

"Yeah, the Portuguese people are not buying from here. They're just selling to each other. So if they're selling to each other, it means they're not adding to our economy. It means if they were not here, we wouldn't require these services. So these services, these businesses are not really required. They're not really helping our people. And actually, because of the wage dumping and because of the lower prices that they sell their their products with, also because of a lot of big numbers of coming into the same houses, it's actually creating more economic problems than it's solving. Even if it was not creating more economic problems than it's solving, I would still argue that our country is not a business, we are a nation, not a business. So we should actually put the ethnic and cultural aspects before we put money. But even considering that, it's actually creating more economic problems than it's generating."

"But reckon these people are to blame for, for example, shortage of house or housing prices?"

"No, these people are not to blame. These people are not to blame. The government is to blame for allowing them to come here. The government is to blame for allowing them to come here. Here's a building there, yeah, that used to belong to Portuguese people, and now it's been taken over by the government to create a mosque. So this area here used to be Portuguese people living in this floods everywhere, and now there's basically no Portuguese people. You can still see over there a Portuguese flag because an old Portuguese lady still lives there, right? But that's of course an exception."

"So is it kind of like this feeling that you're being overtaken, lost in your heritage and culture?"

"Yeah, and we didn't really ask for this. There's no benefit for us. We were never asked, we never agreed to it. And it's actually creating a lot of problems. The insecurity you feel in the streets, actually the smell is not so good. There's a lot of dirty areas in the town because of immigration. Criminality is also through the roof. There has never been higher criminality. And then they will use this excuse that people are here working, but actually, if you actually analyze the situation, most are not here working. There was a study done by Eurostat that proved that only 23% and I want people to notice this, Eurostat 2022 analyzed and came to the conclusion that only 23% of the population of Europe that's from an immigrant background is actually here with a working visa. So the other 77% are not here working. They don't have a working visa."

"So if you look here, there's a lot of papers on this wall of this building, and basically it's saying that the people of this area were replaced by immigrants, and that this building here is being overtaken by the government. The government is actually taking it over from the people without asking them, like they do in communist countries, to allow space for the immigrants to move in. So create, so, right, so is this kind of like a refugee immigrant housing? What it's probably going to be a mosque, right? That's the project. And people are writing on these walls that they didn't agree to this. The government just took it. They just took it, and they're going to build a mosque here."

"Yeah, I mean, he seems like a local Portuguese. Yeah, if you want, you can, you can speak to him if you want me to."

"Hello, we're we're making a video just about..."

"Follow P, follow English?"

"No, no. I'm going to ask him what's his opinion about the situation."

"It's a catastrophe. A catastrophe. What's going to happen with this building?"

"Okay, so he's saying that the, the government took over this building from him. It expropriated the building from him without any due payment, and now they're going to build a mosque. They're going crazy."

"How long have you lived here?"

"My life is nothing."

"Wow. This, this is how they treat the local Portuguese in Lisbon. Literally, this man. How long have you lived here?"

"2009. 15 years."

"Wow. For example, 20 years ago, how many Portuguese people there were in the street?"

"20 years ago, the population here was 90% Portuguese, and now it's 1%."

"And obviously they're going to build a mosque here. Where will you go next? Do you have a plan?"

"To the cemetery."

"He's saying that most of the people who come here come with fictitious contracts from India, Pakistan, etc., Bangladesh, and other countries. And a lot of these shops have like 40 or 50 employees that come here with fake contracts in order to come here legally. So these are all tricks to exploit the system. And also something that you will also notice is there's no women around because the women, Muslim women, they don't work. Even if they're here, they're staying at home every day, whilst our Portuguese people, Portuguese women are working and can't have kids because of that. And you can see it's only men. It's only men. Military-aged men. So it's actually not organic, it's actually not natural. It's just men, 40-year-old men, 30-year-old men. Most of them look at you like you are the actual foreigner, and I am a Portuguese person. And some of them even look at you aggressively."

"And he's saying that he once lent this shop here to an Indian businessman which had a phone shop, and there were just one or two workers, and then two months after, there were 14 workers, right, with fake contracts. And most of them were not, they set the businesses, get them the visas with fake contracts and re- and they so kind of feel like people exploiting the system."

"People might also argue, instead of blaming these guys, why don't the government just build more housing to fit the 12 sisters and brothers that are coming from as well?"

"Yeah, look, our, our economy should not work to to help the needs of the immigrants. It should work to help the needs of the Portuguese people. So we shouldn't be building more houses just for for the immigrants. Actually, what we should do is we should not have the immigrants so that we can have all this free housing that is already built. There's no need, no need to invest anymore, and these houses could be occupied by Portuguese people."

"But is, I know, in a kind of fantasy world, is there kind of a time where you can, you know, house everyone? House the Portuguese, house the immigrants? Is that, is that possible?"

"H, just careful here. Honestly, even if that was possible, I think that's not what we should do. We shouldn't be housing the immigrants. These immigrants from the third world, Africans, Asians, Hindustan, South Americans, they really not, they don't feel our culture. So we need to ask ourselves, what type of country we want to be? And we don't want to be a country with these massive numbers of Indians and Pakistanis because they don't fit our culture. They will never adapt. They will never be a productive part of society. They're not Portuguese people. They don't understand what it means to be Portuguese. They have no loyalty to the country. A lot of them are criminals. They have a different culture, culture. They, they mistreat women. They have a lot of, uh, as you know, in India and Pakistan, some of the highest rates in terms of percentage. Their culture is not really coherent with our culture. They will never really adopt. They don't want to adopt."

"You could make the argument that all of these people would come here and they would adopt and mix into our society, but it's not what's happening. Actually, it's actually a different part of society. It's actually a parallel society with our own rules. He was just saying we need to adapt to their rules, not them adapting to our rules because it's just how how it is. People have had their culture for hundreds of years. They're not going to come here and magically just learn our values and our culture and our way of life. What they're going to do is they're going to create a parallel culture, a parallel way of life that's actually detrimental to our own."

"But how can the government just let the Portuguese just kind of, I mean, look, it says that we got police car as we're here in the neighborhood. I haven't seen one the whole time I've been in Lisbon. But you know, why is the government let this happen? Why, why, why do the local Portuguese such as that man, 10 years ago, have now all moved out? I mean, why, why, why couldn't they stay in that area to begin with? That's the question."

"Yeah, well, this was an old area, so most people who live here, they've actually probably passed away. But the fact that they don't have offspring and kids to populate this area with, also is a testament to the deeper root causes of the problem, which is the demographic problem. Our population is not having kids, and it's only growing due to immigration. So we're actually being replaced with immigrants. Considering our own people are not having kids, we're not creating families, then the population is growing through the growth of immigration, which literally means we're being replaced."

"And what about those who are specifically fleeing war? You know, especially those in, I don't know, Syria or these countries. They don't tend to go to Arabic countries, yes. Why do you think that is? It seems like Portugal, you know, Europe, UK is the promised land."

"Yeah, they've always used this excuse that these people are fleeing from war, but they are not. And if they were fleeing from war, they don't need to come to Europe. But even if they were fleeing from war, even if they were fleeing from war, I think that it's not the time and the moment to actually help people from abroad. I think we should be having a conversation not of who can come in, but who must go out. The, the, the immigration question is not who can we allow to come in, because we already have too many. It's who must we make sure goes out of our country, leaves our country."

"But I think there's also just like an underlying issue like poverty. Like walking around Lisbon, I've just seen so many homeless people, beggar people, selling stuff on the street. I feel like there's other issues to play. Like maybe they are connected, but there are some social, like economic issues on the street."

"We can't miss. I mean, we are in one of the worst areas of Lisbon, that's why there's so many beggars. But, yeah, there's economic problems, and that's another reason why we really shouldn't have the numbers of immigrants that we do, because as I said before, they actually hurt the economy more than they help. Actually, there have been, there have been a lot of studies conducted in Denmark, for example, and Switzerland, that have identified that the government of their respective countries would actually save hundreds of millions of euros if they didn't have the immigrants. All throughout Europe, there has, there have been identifiable trends of high numbers of immigrants living off of welfare, and this is creating economic problems. Actually, immigrants from Africa and, um, and Asia, specifically the Hindustan region, are actually creating more debt than they are helping the economy. There have been a lot of studies, but they just are not promoted because they don't feed the narrative."

"What if there was like some sort of cap? You know, like a set number?"

"You know, like I think that's a good idea. That's a good idea to have a set number of of immigrants. But as I was saying to you before, I think it's not only the absolute number, it's also the quality of the immigrant. So I would rather have 500,000 Germans in Portugal or French people in Portugal than 100,000 Indians because these people ahead of a..."

"I want to listen to your..."

"You see the these..."

"Yeah, do you have a problem with that?"

"Yeah, I do. What's..."

"I'm in my own country. I can speak whatever I want."

"Racist. What's the problem? Racist. What's the problem?"

"Yeah, so just accept it."

"Yeah, I'm entitled to be whatever I want."

"But why do you think he's racist? You're not entitled to speak to me in that way. He's literally pinpointing different ethnic groups. Like, people are not immigrating here from everywhere, but I do."

"Does he have statistics on the Asians that are moving here are on welfare?"

"We, we just walked through an area that was a very big demographic of immigrants. His argument is that these places are kind of overtaking the locals."

"You're walking through like a very small, so like part of the city, right? Like in every city, you're British, clearly, right?"

"I'm British and Canadian."

"There are very specific pockets of ethnic areas, which is not necessarily showing you the full demographic, right?"

"But what about when, for example, one argument is that we're they're importing low-skilled workers who aren't benefiting the economy? I mean, who's doing the job then? I mean, the Portuguese would, but they can't afford to earn the wages, is the argument."

"I don't know. I feel like universally, even if you're in Canada and the US, yeah, people that are living there, born there, maybe first, second generation, don't want to do the jobs that immigrants are doing. And you're clearly not white, fully."

"I'm, I'm half."

"But, but I understand the issues that are happening. Issues too, but I don't think you can blame it on a specific race or ethnic division."

"Yeah, but too simplistic. We always said immigration, but it used to be from European countries. So what difference?"

"Cling? You don't..."

"Because they don't share the same culture. They don't share the same culture. They don't share the same religion. They don't share the same way of life."

"That's a good. I agree with it. It's a good thing. But we should have from Germany."

"Can I get my point? Why, why do you call them neo-Nazis? You're saying normal people are neo-Nazis."

"Everybody in Europe shares the exact same culture."

"Are you kidding me? Very similar culture, very similar ethnic background. And also, when you are, when you are in Portugal, you want to see Portuguese people, right? And Portuguese culture. The same way, have you ever visited? Have you ever visited India, for example? Do you see, do you see a lot of Portuguese shops in India? Every street corner? No, you see Indian shops, right? That's positive. I want the Indian people to have their own culture. But don't come and tell us we should have Indian people in Portugal because we don't have any Portuguese people in India. That's real diversity. It's each culture in their own country. Each culture in their own country is the real..."

"An entire state called Goa."

"Yeah, we did. Yeah. There's no problem with that. We're not there now. We're not in India now. That was 500 years ago."

"Is that argument? Yeah. The basic point. But like you said, how you shouldn't be ashamed of your history."

"Yeah, we're not ashamed at all, actually. We're very proud of it. And you can tell that these people have cognitive dissonance when they hear the actual nationalistic point of view."

"Defendant in the street. She just disrespected me in the street for just defending our own point of view, our own interest."

"She's entitled to her opinion."

"Entitled to her opinion."

"Yeah, yeah. But the fact that her opinion is based on hate, is based on just pointing her finger at me and starting shouting at me, shows that actually my opinion creates a cognitive dissonance with her. Her opinion doesn't create any cognitive dissonance with me. I can just talk her through my points of view because she is emotionally invested into her whole view. I'm not emotionally invested. I can just talk it out calmly, which actually proves that she knows she is wrong. That's why she needs to get loud, she needs to interrupt me. And you see this with leftists very often. They can't really argue, so they just focus on emotional arguments, and they focus on shouting above you and disrespecting you."

"She's too, she's very quick to call you a racist. I mean, how does that make you feel?"

"Well, to be honest, I don't really mind. To be honest, to be called racist. I would rather be called racist and keep our homelands to ourselves than not be called the racist and lose our own homelands. That's how I feel about it. I really don't care. She will call you a racist whether you are an actual racist or not. Just as in Europe, we've decided to reinvent the wheel and actually defend foreigners above our own, and the result is not pretty."

"I think also where the message gets lost, especially speaking to women like her, they think you hate foreigners. That's the kind of thing, right?"

"Exactly. But we don't. So, me for example, I'm a Catholic. I have no weight towards these people. I'm walking amongst them. I have no problem. I have only love towards them. But that's why I want them to keep their own countries because I also believe that they are more happy in their own countries. We would be more happy, less depressed, less anxious, if we had our own culture, our own country with with 99% of our people living in it. And also, like for example, I'm English. If you see, lot even Portuguese, if you were to go to say Brazil to live, you want to live with Portuguese people too, right? You don't want to..."

"I know people talk about integrated, but you just naturally do when you travel, find people who you share similarities with."

"Exactly. It's been studied. It's been studied in kids as young as 2 or 3 years old that naturally, even before they are taught racism, supposed racism, they prefer to be around their own kind. That's just a natural instinct, an instinct of survival, and a very healthy instinct. I believe that's very beautiful for you to want to be around your people, to want to prioritize your people. And any nation and any country should be allowed to express that feeling freely. And any nation is allowed to express that feeling. But the European peoples, but the European countries, and that really goes to show that we are the main enemy. European nationalism is the main enemy to the globalist agenda, to the globalist world order."

"Video of a people, you have to ask, you know, have to ask people, not put video people just getting stabbed. I mean, if you approach these guys, there's a chance one out of 10 will will maybe stab you. And they don't want to be on camera. There's a reason for that, isn't it?"

"Yeah, yeah. They're not, they're not well-meaning. If they were well-meaning, they would be on camera."

"Y bro, where you from?"

"We, you want to do interview?"

"Interview?"

"It's where are you from?"

"Where are you from?"

"Zimbabwe."

"Zimbabwe? Okay, okay. You like Lisbon?"

"How long have you been..."

"Yeah, I'm recording myself."

"How long have you been in Portugal?"

"Less than a year."

"Less than a year? Okay. What job are you working now? Do you have any job?"

"No job. I start job. I fill myself. No job. I fill myself. Don't worry. Compl..."

"So now you have no job?"

"Yeah."

"So you've been here for one year?"

"Yeah, for one year."

"And for one year, you got no job?"

"Yeah, yeah."

"So how do you live? Is it welfare from the government?"

"Yeah, welfare from the welfare from the government."

"How much you...?"

"Man, just 75. 75, 75."

"Why do you choose Portugal? Why don't you choose other countries?"

"Why, why Portugal?"

"As a man, a man doesn't belong to nowhere, you know, anywhere."

"Why, why did you have to leave Zimbabwe? Why didn't you stay in Zimbabwe?"

"Because of give quality. You because here in Portugal is better than Zimbabwe because you can live off of welfare, right? You don't need to work in Zimbabwe. You need to work, right? But here you don't need really to work, right?"

"The same. I need to work in Zimbabwe. I need to work. Maybe more money, but this is a nicer place to be, right? Is more because you can, you can get welfare. You don't need to work. Future, you know?"

"Yeah, yeah. Good future. Welfare."

"Welfare. So do you feel a lot of Zimbabwe and people and move to Portugal because of the welfare?"

"Yeah, yeah. I think because the government is not doing nothing. It's not work."

"Do you want to stay in Portugal? Do you want to go to another country later?"

"I've been many country. I've been more than what countries have you been?"

"France, Italy."

"And have you ever worked in these countries?"

"Yeah, I was working."

"Just in Portugal, you've not worked?"

"No, I started working."

"So where do you live here?"

"In this, this place. In this area."

"So how do you pay rent?"

"By the government."

"Pah. The government pays your rent?"

"Ah, the government pays your rent."

"Okay, okay. How much do they pay a month?"

"I didn't know. That's depend to them."

"Ah, the government pays your rent and they give you 775 just for you to help you to eat and H."

"Are there a lot of people in this situation where they just live off of the government's money?"

"Lot, lot. Man, see people. Lot of people are singing outside. So they love Portugal because of that."

"No, I know everybody has his own, man, you know. They got, oh man, I got it's on me."

"How did you enter Portugal? How do you come inside? Is it a visa or how do you..."

"Are you going to pay me?"

"Pay you for what? We're just talking."

"Where from?"

"England, UK."

"UK? Yeah, you."

"I'm from Portugal."

"Yeah, how did you come into Portugal? Do you have a visa or no?"

"Problem. All nice to meet you. Nice, nice to meet you. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. Always, always. Yeah, yeah."

"Very like, you know, touched, shady on of yeah, yeah."

"Look, you just spoke with a random person. So it's not, it's not like we selected him. We unpicked him. And what is his situation? Look, he doesn't want to be on camera, and he's aggressive about it. Then he's saying you need to pay him for speaking with him. He's on drugs and drinking in plain daylight at 4 p.m. on a Thursday. He doesn't work. He gets his house paid for by the government. He gets 75 on top of it. And we're supposed to think it's normal? We're supposed to think this is normal? It's not."

"Oh, yeah. If, if you don't think it's, you're a racist."

"Yeah, exactly. But he's not really being a racist. He's just having some common sense, really. Just common sense."

"I've been the one asking you questions today, and we've been talking about multiculturalism. One issue I personally find of it. I've been here for a day, come nighttime, there's people offering you drugs. There's certain people here that you know aren't respecting the law. And I think as a tourist, that's just a complete put-off. And that's what's happening in exactly many other big cities, not just London, Paris."

"Totally, totally. And they're the kind of people that you are getting in these city centers at night."

"Totally, totally. Yeah, we shouldn't really have to live like this. That's the main point. It comes down to, we shouldn't have to live like this. We don't need to live like this. And the alternative is to be called racist by people who will call you racist whether you are an actual racist or not. I think the alternative is better. Mean words are better than a destroyed civilization in my opinion."

"As we move towards an increasingly multicultural society, do we risk losing our national identity in the West? At what point does being an overly accommodating nation become unsustainable? While migration can bring cultural and economic benefits, it also raises challenges around integration, public resources, and different cultural values. Should more efforts be made to build truly integrated communities while balancing the needs of locals and migrants? Let me know what you think."