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All right, guys. Welcome in. Uh, hold on. I'm getting an echo and I can't figure out why. Uh, I I want to thank you guys for coming and joining me on a um on a Friday. I don't normally do this on a Friday. I don't know that I'm going to normally do this on a Friday, but I am doing it on a Friday because I have an a couple of urgent items and I want to get out of here at a reasonable time. I don't want this to turn into a multi-hour program like uh like sometimes happens. I want to do this at a reasonable time for a couple of reasons.
One is uh Ian Carol has a live coming on at 7:30 tonight. I'm gonna be watching it 7:30 central time. I'm gonna be watching it. Uh I encourage you guys to watch as well. Like subscribe to Ian if you've not. He's done uh wonders for this program and uh I do encourage you to watch his program and others.
Second is Candace indicated she might go live tonight and I certainly um you yield to the number one podcast in the world, right? When they go live, you don't go live. That's kind of a should be a rule. If it's not a rule, it should be a rule. Um, so that's the that's the second part.
And the third part [snorts] the third part is I need your help. I need your help. This when I started thinking about it, I thought this is why I need my research group. This is why I need my research group. And I thought because it's a Friday, maybe I wouldn't get as many pe people on uh because people do stuff on Friday. like uh Sunday night, um Wednesday night, a lot of people are home. On a Friday night, maybe people are out doing stuff and I'll get a smaller group and I could do a little research. Um, but anyway, so that's that's kind of the the big reason why I don't want to go terribly long tonight. So, uh mad respect to Ian, mad respect to Candace, and I don't want to go live over the top of them. I know that's um that's one of the things people do is they they kind of get their their little set that they don't want to compete against. You know, I don't mind competing if Josh Hammer goes live. I don't think you're going to choose Josh Hammer over me. Uh but I'm not going to go uh I'm not going to go live against them. So, uh so that's it. We're not going to go terribly long tonight.
I do want to um because I did have some thoughts I wanted to put out on on on sort of a monologue and then I'll get to the important items that I really need help with and I do need help. I need your help. This is an urgent call to action. I have received information on something we covered Wednesday and I will need help to run it down. I don't know enough about the industry in order to know uh what to do.
But first, I want to I want to talk about something that's I've been banging around in my head. You guys know Leonardo DiCaprio. You know who that is? Leonardo DiCaprio famously has a pattern of ditching his girlfriends when they're too old. It It's so well known that it happens. There's actually charts that have been developed. And they outline the pattern. I'll show you one in a second. Leo get a girlfriend, younger than 25, and after she turns 25, he dumps them. I I will show you one right now. This is amazing to me. I I was looking for information on Leo's girlfriends and I came across this chart and I thought, "You've got to be kidding me. There's actually a chart." And it's true right here. Leonardo has never dated somebody over the age of 25. Here he is back in 1998 with Jazelle Bunchon. He starts dating her at 18. When she turns 23, she's gone. Goes to the next gal. When she turns 25, gone. Next one, one year, she's 23. Then a 22. Then a 20. Then a 21. Then a 25. 24. you you will see this pattern holds true. And it just recently happened, I think, that he dumped a 25-year-old woman. So, she gets to that age and they dump him.
And I started thinking to myself, is that what happened to Charlie? You know, Leo's able to do this. He's fantastically wealthy. He's equally good-looking. I mean, he's he's famously good-looking. And that's a pretty good combination if you're looking to have your way with with consecutive women who look like supermodels and they're under the age of 25. And the reality is in Leo's life, it's none of our business. He can do whatever he wants. I mean, he's not going Henry VII on them. I mean, he just breaks up with them. He's not he's not removing removing their heads from their torsos. So, who really cares what he does? Um, but I start thinking this preference for younger people in specific situations, it isn't unique to Leo. It's not unique to Leo dating younger women. The bishops, Catholic bishops, often will place young priests, newly ordained priests in parishes near college campuses. Why? The theory is that younger priests will connect better with younger Catholics.
So, I started thinking of that. I started mulling that over and Leo dumping women when they get to 25. Bishops putting younger priests near young campuses because they think they'll be a better connection. And I start asking this question with Charlie. Charlie started TPUSA when he was 18 years old. He did it instead of going to college. It really didn't start hitting his stride for a few years after that. It was kind of fumbling along the first few years. It starts making millions of dollars in like 2016, 2017, that area in there. [snorts] And Charlie's in his early to mid20s, about the same age as, you know, sort of the the older college set. when he died in September this month uh uh this year, it was the month before he would have turned 32. How much longer did he really have? How much longer would he continue to connect with college students as one of the bros out answering questions on the quad? At 32, you're a year or two away from your mid30s. And in the parliament of college students, you're practically a boomer. And if there's one thing college students don't want, it's a boomer lecturing them about politics.
So, could Charlie have pulled it off as he aged? I mean, could he pull it off as his hair starts to turn gray and thins? Could he pull it off as his own children aged as they entered high school and then college? I think it's obvious at this point if you look at it, the $85 million a year operation that they were running the last three years, $8 to $85 million. TPUSA in a way had outgrown Charlie. What started as Charlie's charity had taken on a life of its own and they no longer needed charlie. If you don't believe me, TPUSA today is swimming in cash in the wake of Charlie's death. Their tours are bigger than ever. Donations have never been this high. They took in more in the first two or three weeks after Charlie's death than they had taken in in the previous year.
In his interview with Megan Kelly, Ben Shapiro said Candace Owens is accusing her or has accused accused her of murdering her husband Charlie. That's an awfully devastating. It's an awfully devastating accusation. [snorts] But I think what he's trying to say, we'll listen to it. I I've got it pulled up. We'll listen to that little clip. I I can only honestly I can only take about 30 or 40 seconds of Ben Shapiro at a time. I really can I I I'm not one of those people who could listen to an hourong interview of Ben Shapiro and say, "Well, what did I think of that? I can't do it. I physically cannot do it. It's revolting. His His voice is so bad." But we'll take a look at it and you can hear for yourself what he said and you can and examine it in light of what I've said because I have a very different take on Erica Kirk than most of you do. a very different take. And I hadn't really seen anybody else post my take or mention my take until I saw uh the village crazy crazy lady. I think her name's Mel Melissa Melanie, something like that. The village crazy lady yesterday. And and I don't know that I'd ever articulated articulated it even in my own mind as well as she had as well as she did on Twitter yesterday in light of Erikica Kirk's interview on Fox News.
I don't think Erica Kirk believes the official narrative. I really don't. I also don't think she was involved. I think she's scared to death. I truly believe that. I think she's scared to death. The same way Donald Trump is scared to death after getting his ear buzzed in Butler, Pennsylvania last year. The same way Ronald Reagan was scared to death after getting shot in March of 1981. March 23rd, I think, of 1981. Coming face to face with death or seeing what people are capable of pulling off is terrifying. And if Tyler Robinson believed he had anything to do with it, then he's by nature guilty of conspiring to commit capital murder. And so it's not as if if you're Erica Kirk, you look and you say, "Well, Tyler Robinson shouldn't be punished at all. If I don't speak out on my fears, I'm going to let an innocent man go to prison." He's not that. I don't believe he's that for a second. I think Tyler Robinson probably thought he was involved. May have been involved to some extent. I've shared with you how absurd it is that Tyler Robinson could have planned this entire thing in the time period he had to plan it, pull it off, know exactly where to go. I've been through that. I'm not going to do it again. If you want to know where it is, it was a couple of episodes ago and I even clipped out an 11minute uh diet tribe I went on where I proved that it's impossible for Tyler Robinson to have done that on his own. It's just not possible. It's not it's not credible that he did it on his own. [snorts]
And then we have Josh Hammer's interview on CBN where he spent the entire interview making the point that Charlie was practically more Jewish than your local rabbi. And we'll look at that interview as well because what they both have in common besides absurdly nasal voices and and a a villainous disposition right out of Central casting. Like if you needed a horrific villain for your upcoming publication, you would call Central Casting and they would send you someone who looks and sounds and thinks like Ben Shapiro or Josh Hammer. That's what they would send you. And it would terrify the audiences. If you put that in a horror film, audiences would be terrified. I'm going to get you. It would be awful. I'm telling you, it'd be awful. But what they have in common besides those horrific qualities is a desire to grab hold of this narrative that's getting away from them. They This narrative is getting away from them. I really believe that that the people who pulled this off and I again like I said it's not Tyler Robinson. I do not believe Tyler Robinson pulled all this off. Will Tyler Robinson go to prison for this? Probably. Will Tyler Robinson get the death penalty? Maybe. Will anybody else be held responsible? I don't know. I don't know. >> [snorts] >> We're 5 years in and we're just learning who the pipe bomber was on January 6th and we're learning that that was an inside job despite the fact that the feds had a half million dollar reward for the person. That's not what I intend to cover tonight, but I'm making a point that sometimes these things take time and sometimes you get a lucky break when you find out the truth. But trust me, the feds would have swept that under the rug and it would have never come out that it was a Fed who was the actual January 6 pipe bomber if people didn't keep researching it and asking questions.
They want to change the narrative from anything other than what it is right now. Because the current and relentless narrative that's taken shape since Charlie Kirk died is that Tyler Robinson is a psy. He might be involved, but he's not solely and he's probably not primarily responsible. I'll play a clip today from Charlie's memorial service the week after he passed away. Nobody there believed the official narrative. Nobody. And let me tell you, fewer people believe it today than believed it then because at the time we just thought that doesn't make any sense. Now we have hard evidence. We've looked at video. We see things. We hear people talking. We've seen the Mikey McCoy footage. We've seen the Blake Nef footage. We've seen the Terrell Farnsworth footage. We've had an opportunity to examine all the different casts of characters that were involved. Now, we've had a chance to look into uh some of the motivations that were taking place. We've gotten news, insider reports out of TPUSA. We got text messages that leaked out. that showed Charlie Kirkheads was fed up with his donors and they were equally as fed up with him. So if you think the narrative was failing on that day, and I'll show you video that shows the narrative was failing on that day. If you think the narrative was failing on that day, it's failing even worse today. They've even trotted out the mommy bloggers and eirls to step up the pressure on the narrative this week. And I can I count Jack Pobic in that in that category, frankly. I mean, they they have they have stormed with these evil villains, YouTube and X and all the different podcasts and anywhere else they can find to try to drive home the narrative that Charlie was practically Jewish. uh that TPUSA had no idea that anything was going to happen, that they were they had no responsibility whatsoever, that nobody that worked at TPUSA had anything to do with it, that that nobody outside of Tyler Robinson had anything to do with it. Certainly, no countries overseas had anything to do with it. And no matter how hard they try, they cannot shift the narrative. We don't buy their BS. We're not buying what they're selling. And when you have to roll out the mommy bloggers and the eg girls, you know you're in trouble because no one believes them either. Nobody believes them either. And frankly, after what happened to Charlie, and you all saw what happened to Charlie when he refused to go along with the wishes of those trying to to control the narrative in the wake of his death, you saw what happened when he went against their wishes. I'm frankly terrified what links they might go to drive home their points who is in danger because their narrative is failing.
But but I'm here on a Friday night to discuss a few things as a family because this is the type of show time that I'd like to do kind of a research members group. sort of this time of the evening, maybe on a Saturday, maybe on a Friday, maybe on a Monday or a Tuesday or a Thursday, but just this time mid evening, maybe a little later, but but I, you know, I want to discuss that. I want to get some feedback from you. I want to share with you some of the concerns that have been raised to me about such a group. Uh, but also give you a timeline of when I think I I might want to kick it off. So, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about that tonight at some point. And again, I'm going to do this show in probably an hour or less, maybe hour and a half the most.
Uh, second, I want to issue a call for help. I've been given information from multiple people that the plane we discussed on Wednesday's liveream, if you remember the plane we discussed on Wednesday's live li live stream that had the satellite or that had the uh the images of the campus as people were gathering, I've been given information that that plane was doing things out of the ordinary for that type of plane, demonstrably out of the ordinary. And if you look at a quick review of the pain plane's past work, you can kind of see that that's true. And so here's my call for help. Is anyone in the audience familiar with these types of planes? Is anyone in the audience familiar with um uh what these planes do? I'll go over some of the qualifications, some of the types of things they say they do, some of the types of customers they work for. It's exactly what you would think. It's governments and and private industry and universities and things like that. It's liar. It's satellite imagery. It's research. But is anybody familiar with those? That's kind of a call for help. If so, I'm going to give you the email address. I'm going to put it up at the bottom of the screen here. Um, right there. Realbaronpodcast@gmail.com. You can you can email that if you're familiar with the um Am I have I been sharing this Leo thing the whole time? Why don't you guys tell me these things? I apologize. I did not mean to share the Leo thing the entire time. It won't happen again. It won't happen again. Um so if you're familiar with these types of planes, what they do, I'll pull it up. will go over the facts and the figures, the types of industries and things they say they do. Uh, and I'll go through it a bit in detail and let you know more precisely what I'm looking for.
Finally, I have hinted at a super secret project I've been working on. And someone in the email, I have had so many guesses in the email, and they've been good guesses. I mean, good guesses. everything from climate change to um people's names um trying to think of some of the ones that won't give it away. I don't want to narrow it down too much, but I am very very close to going forward on a show with this topic and I want to keep you updated. But I would assume in the next two to three weeks I will do an entire show. So the reason I'm telling you that you don't have to email me and ask when that show's coming. I will let you know. I will let you know. And I will put it in the the topic. It will be a show dedicated probably solely or almost exclusively to that topic. It's that big of a topic and it could go hours. I'm not sure. But you will not miss it if you follow this program at all. If you like the program, uh if you subscribe, if you um voice is a low a little bit, big brother, what does that mean? I'm tired. It's the end of a work day. It's the end of a work week. I'm exhausted. [snorts] But you're not going to miss it. If you if you if you like and subscribe and hit notifications, you are not going to miss the big show. It is it's mindboggling. It it truly is mindboggling. Gosh, I wish I could ah this is that whole add thing I get. I get on something and that's all I want to talk about.
All right, [snorts] let me go in order here and let you just see an example of how much these guys are losing the narrative. I want you to see how much they're losing the narrative on this. Uh, and then we'll get to the plane and then we'll get into uh the help I need. The help I need. So, let me show you how much. Now, this is video taken directly from Charlie Kirk's memorial service. This is footage taken directly from Charlie Kirk's memorial service. It's only about a 40 second clip. 45 second clip. But when you hear it, you'll see, oh, and it's worse now. It's worse now. I want to bring up that comment. Is Leo DiCaprio dating Poso? No, I don't think uh but let me let me show you this video real fast. Let me show you this. So I was in line with people for 3 hours >> talking to all the folks and they were Christians and they were happy and they had families and they were lovely people and I started talking to them and they were happy and prayerful and none of them that I spoke to believed that the the shooter that they got and arrested [music] actually did it >> and and they the war posi it's 0% >> they were and they were angry with our >> they don't need that they don't not saying this guy's a bad guy and an evil guy. But >> they think something and this is why Cash Patel did announce today that the FBI's officially expanded the investigation. My big fear was you would get a lone wolf, lone gunman, and Utah police and everybody want to shut it down. I think Cash said today that. >> All right. So, this is this is what I wanted to cover. Hold on. It's still going. This is what I wanted to cover. Hey, guess what? Guess what? No, you didn't miss me review Ben Shapiro and Megan Kelly. I am going to play as much of that as I possibly can stomach. As much as I possibly can stomach. When did that air? That aired at the memorial service. That's why the Super Bowl stadium's in the background. That aired at the memorial service. And to recap what they said is that the the head guy here who's oddly narrating a memorial service as if it's a Super Bowl. That's a little weird, let's be honest. But he's saying he stood in line and nobody believed the official story. Nobody believed the official story. And then they go to Steve Bannon and he said, "Yeah, on my podcast, 0% believe the official story. 0%." And then they went to some other announcer, some uh I don't know who she is, but they went to someone else and she was like, "Yeah, I haven't met anybody who believes the official story." Well, guess what? The story's gotten even less popular. Fewer people believe it today than believed it then. Fewer people believe today that Tyler James Robinson solely planned and executed Charlie Kirk then believed it at his memorial service. Erica Kirk does not believe it. Guys, we talked about this on the program last week and I didn't have the transcript in front of me and maybe I'll try to find it. She didn't answer that question. I said that on this program. Go back and look at it. I I her her interview ended at 8:00 p.m. Central. I started at 8:02 p.m. Central. So, I didn't have a chance to review it. I didn't have the clips and all that. I didn't have the transcript in front of me, but I had the notes I was making. And while she was talking, I said, "Wait a minute. They asked her if they had the right person." She didn't say yes. She didn't say no, but she didn't say yes. So, no. Erica doesn't believe it necessarily. Yes, she absolutely filibustered that conversation. She absolutely filibustered that conversation.
Now, let me show you how desperate they're getting. Remember, you saw credible people that you trust mostly at Charlie Kirk's memorial service saying, "Nobody believes this. Now they're having to trot out Ben Shapiro and Josh Hammer in the last 48 hours to go on stage to go on camera and try to get this thing under control. It is absolutely getting out of control. They're bringing in everybody they can possibly find to try to get it under control. And it's getting way out of control to the point where Ben Shapiro is now just defaming people. Just defaming people. Now, I know how hard it is to sue a public figure. I get it. I get it. But I want you to listen to what Ben Shapiro says. And I want you to think because a lot of you are fans of Candace. Have you ever heard her say anything remotely like this? I didn't realize I wasn't sharing it. Let me start over. Friday night jitters. There we go. >> Again, this is why, you know, I think you and I differ on our angle with regard to, for example, Candace Owens. I think that what Candace Owens is doing right now is evil. It is evil what she is doing right now. Okay. And I say that again, >> but what what >> because I I didn't know pine on whether it's evil or not, but my my position is it's really none of my business. And >> why is it But I have a question. Why is it none of your business? I mean, you you you comment on these things for a living. >> I'm not mother of the internet. No, but but if this were on the left and somebody were accusing Charlie Kirk of of his wife having murdered him, I assume that you would be talking about it. >> Is that what Candace is accusing Erica of? >> Yes. >> Of murdering her own husband. >> She's she's accusing TPUSA insiders and other members of the right-wing, including Seth Dylan, of being involved in the murder of Charlie Kirk. Yes. >> Okay. Like I said, I I don't take in that content, which is an honest statement. I I don't have time to watch. >> Did any of you hear her say that? Did any of you hear her say that? Have you ever heard Candace Owens? Have you ever heard her say, you know, Eric, actually, I shouldn't do a Candace Owens as Ben Shapiro. That's a terrible. But that is a flatout lie. That is not true. It's demonstrabably not true. Her shows are transcribed. Ben, you can go hit control F or command F if you're smart and use a Mac and you can look through the transcript and every time she mentions Well, I don't know if you hear that thunder, but it's like the world's ending right now. Um, every time she mentions I'm looking I'm pulling out my radar to make sure I'm not about to die. That sounds awful. Okay, I think we'll be good. Every time she mentions Erikica Kirk, you look, there's no mention of the fact that she thinks Erica Kirk killed her husband. The fact that he said that shows that they are in total freef fall panic. The world is closing in around them. They're losing control of the narrative. People like you guys watching this show, you guys tuning in to watch Ian tonight, you guys tuning in to watch Candace tonight. The fact that he is saying that, what a vile, nasty, villainous creature he is.
All right, Now, let me do one more of these because it will give you an idea of just how absurdly ridiculous. Yes. Yes. I hear it. Tornado watch in large area around Nashville. Thank you. If you guys see me blow away live, just know it wasn't Israel. It wasn't uh Ben Shapiro. It wasn't Josh Hammer. It was the Lord himself. He's taking me in a spinning vector of wind. All right, I'm going to play this real quick. This is a a piece of a Josh Hammer interview that he did. A piece of a Josh Hammer interview he did. And it is important because it shows again just how much they're losing the narrative on what all is happening around Charlie Kirk's uh murder that many people believe they're responsible for. Obviously, it has been a difficult month after the loss of Charlie Kirk. How have you been processing the loss of such a close friend? >> Well, Billy, it's uh it's horrific. I mean, it's horrific. It's unconscionable. It's the first time in my entire life I've had a friend murdered, let alone a friend murdered in in this particular fashion. And what makes it particularly you notice he said it's the first time and not the last or the only time. I mean honestly I didn't catch that the first time. If someone said I wouldn't say well that's the first time I've had a friend murdered. It might not be the last. Hey I think I would say it's the only time I've had a friend murdered. What a creeper. All right, hang on. >> Is the way that just terrible, terrible human being. >> And have you ever heard Charlie Kirk discuss Josh Hammer being such a close friend? I don't recall it. I don't recall it. Now granted, I didn't hang on every word Charlie Kirk spoke. I didn't ever talk to Charlie Kirk in person. I have never discussed Josh Hammer with anybody at TPUSA. Yes, don't forget to buy Josh Hammer's book. Don't forget to buy Josh Hammer's book. [laughter] He'll probably remind you at some point if you don't know already. >> Some of them have tried to seize on this moment to glom on to something that isn't there, a unicorn, and try to further their punished agenda. That has been I think the most disturbing aspect frankly of all. >> You found yourself in a position where you didn't want to be in this position, but you were posting screenshots from a conversation that Charlie was in that you were also in. Again, you didn't want to do that, but I assume you felt compelled. What drove that decision? >> I'll tell you what drove that decision. They got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. Need I remind you, Andrew Kovette released to the feds screen capped images of a conversation where Charlie Kirk was frustrated with his donors and said, "I'm thinking of losing I I I they're leaving me no choice but to to leave the Israeli cause." You remember that everything needs to be in that context because why did why did Charlie Kirk say it? That's one. We all know why he said it. The donors were pulling their money. They were frustrated with Tucker. They were frustrated with Candace. They're frustrated with Nick. They're frustrated with everybody. They're losing control of the narrative. They thought they could go slaughter and gen. Scratch that. Back up. They thought they could have their way with their foreign policy and nobody would care or notice because they control the media. And guess what happened? That's not what people got a little irritated, including people like Candace, including people like Tucker, including people like Charlie Kirk. people started expressing uh concern with Israeli foreign policy, including, by the way, people inside of Israel. Lest you think this is a an indictment of all Israelis or all people who have any tie to Israel or all Jewish people, it is not. More people inside the friendly confines of the state of Israel agree with me and Tucker and Candace than agree with Josh Hammer. They do. What's going on over there is deeply unpopular, including the prime minister's actions. And so I want you to keep all that in mind. I'm not taking a political position on it. What I'm saying is you have to put what happened to Charlie Kirk in context. Why did Josh Hammer I'm answering the question for Josh Hammer because I can't stand his voice. But why did Josh Hammer release text messages? Because he was put on the spot. He had no choice. He had to release the text messages because Andrew Kovette had released the text messages because he thought it might be relevant to Charlie Kirk's death that Charlie Kirk thought that the Israelis uh that he leaving the Israeli cause was concerning. And Andrew Kovvette in the wake of Charlie Kirk being assassinated goes, "Oh, just two days ago, Charlie was complaining about the donors and saying he was going to have to leave leave the Israeli cause and now he's been murdered and assassinated. That's probably related. I need to turn that into the feds." Or it could be related. I need to turn that into the feds. The fact that Andrew Kovette had that instinct absolves everybody on on this side of the aisle. It absolves us all because a TPUSA insider had the instinct first. He thought it in the moments it happened. He thought about it. Let's go back to the villain. Well, I didn't want to do this. I mean, very shortly after Charlie was killed, you had a lot of people I I mean, the debate over Charlie Kirk's legacy, Billy, started while his blood was b was still drying up. I mean I mean the whole thing started so quickly and obnoxiously and frankly sickeningly quickly this debate over Charlie K's legacy and that debate from what I could tell centered mostly on his relationship with with the Jewish people and with Israel which is kind of disturbing in of itself that this is immediately where the conversation went. I mean, Charlie, >> it went that way immediately for Andrew Kovette as well, who is the PR spokesperson for TPUSA, Josh, that's the point. It's not that Candace is crazy. It's not that Ian is crazy. It's not that I'm crazy. It's not that all you commenters are crazy. It's not that everybody on this side is crazy. It's not that anybody's crazy. It's not that Tucker's crazy. Andrew Kvette had the exact same thought. The exact same thought. and he turned over text messages, which is why you had to turn over text messages because the text messages Andrew Kvette turned over because he had that same thought that there might be a connection. He had the same thought. I don't think I can make it any louder. I can try see if that made it louder. >> Kirk, yeah, he was very, very supportive of making friendships and alliances with the Jewish people. I know that because that's literally me. like I actually live this out on a day-to-day basis. He was vocally supportive of of Israel, especially Israel's various wars over radical fanatical Islamists. But he was outspoken on a lot of issues. Among the things that that has happened is we all saw very recently Candace Owens acquired a a screenshot from this small WhatsApp chat that I was in with Charlie Kirk. There were seven or eight people. I was one of them. And Candace Owen seized on this totally out of context screenshot of Charlie Kirk being very upset that a Jewish donor was withholding his $2 million donation. And she used this as an attempt to say, "Oh, Josh Hammer's lying that Charlie Kirk remained pro-Israel until his his final moments." >> Yeah. >> But she's als Andrew Kovette seized on it out of context. The only reason Candace Owens had it is because again the TPUSA spokesperson, and I hate to keep repeating myself, the only reason she's seized on it is because a Fed probably leaked it to her, I would guess, or someone in TPUSA leaked it to her, or somebody on the group text leaked it to her. But that's the only reason she she seized on it. That's the only reason she released it because TPUSA spokesperson Andrew Kovette, who said it was legitimate, admitted he turned it over to the feds feds because he thought it might be relevant. Which means in the first day or two after the assassination, he thought it could have been Israel [laughter] or at least could have been these donors. I you cannot read it any other way. You cannot read it any other way. And so Josh, guess what? Candace Owens gets absolution, complete absolution for pursuing this. Complete absolution for pursuing it. You cannot sit here and blame her when he a TPUSA spokesperson is the only reason she had it. I wanted to keep going on this, but I'm going to run out of time. Trust trust me to say only, and I cannot stand his voice. The only thing he says from here on out and and you can find that video. Just look up uh Josh Shapiro on CBN. The only reason I was playing it was to show that they are in total freef fall. They have totally lost control of the narrative. You have Ben Shapiro freaking out on the stage. And to me, when you say something as stupid as Candace Owens said Erica Kirk murdered her husband. If you're going to say something that stupid, you're losing control. You've lost control of the narrative and you're and you're in panic mode. You're in freef fall mode. So, that's problem one. Problem two. Problem two, uh, they're going to need your prayers because it's nasty outside because I don't live too terribly far from there. Uh, and it's nasty here. All right. Um, problem two with it is you cannot get it back. You've lost it. You've sent out the mommy bloggers. You've sent out the eg girls. you've sent out the Baptist uh ladies posi or whatever whatever that group is and they're all out there and there's guys the only thing Candace Owens or anyone else that's covering this project Constitution Ryan Mata uh base Sam Parker me Ian Carol the only thing any of these people are are doing is following up on a text thread that Andrew Kovvette thought was relevant that's it to me that's it that is that is the truth. That's the way I see this investigation taking place. Andrew Kovette thought that text message was relevant text thread was relevant to his death to Charlie Kirk's death. So do I. So do I. I at least need to know. I at least need to know. Uh I want to run through these uh a few of these super um chats real quick. I don't I don't I'm going to try to get to them all by the end, but uh I'm I'm on a time crunch now. I'm inside of 35 minutes before I got to get off. Actually, [snorts] Bloody Red Baron's a good nickname. The guy has red hair, I believe, which might explain his derailed exuberance. Popular song about a pilot. Is that red hair? It's reddish. The beard used to be red before I got old. Um, Leo's in control of the initiations in Hollywood. Hard to explain. Here's my tinfoil hat perspective. I think Erica is allowing Candace to speak on this because she wants the truth also. Maybe Erica is Candace's source. Pamela is one of our new moderators. Notice the wrench. Notice the wrench. If you get out of control, you might have to answer to Pamela. She has a wrench and she's not afraid to use it. But again, only for spam. We're not using it just because we don't like people's opinion. I don't care what they say. Let them speak. But if they start spamming, that's when we want to take action. Pam uh Nimi, do you think there are some good guys in a bunker in a Middle Eastern country right now saying Google? Really slow-mo. Google, we made stuckset. The Middle Eastern country is Iran. Of course. Huh. I think there's some guys in a bunker right now saying Google. I don't know what you mean. I wish I did. $20 is an incredibly generous donation. Um, and I would love to understand that, but I don't. Uh, Friday night is perfect. I'm eating Chinese and drinking rum. Thank you for your work, Baron. I You're welcome, madam. You're welcome. I've never had Chinese food and rum at the same time. That's a weird combination. I once had rum that uh I wanted in a sweetened beverage and I didn't have any. So, I put it in sweet iced tea. Bad combo. I got it down, but bad combo. Don't do that. Don't do that. It was an Appleton's estate uh 10 year or 12 year rum. It was a nice rum and I thought it's a Friday night. Let me kick it up a notch and make it sweet. No, don't take a sipping rum like that and and try to sweeten it. Uh please interview Lance Twigs. Never seen a furry. Uh probably not likely. Uh, clock until super secret. Oh, time until super secret. Mind-blown topic release. Probably two weeks. I would think two weeks. Let me I need to polish off a couple of more lines of thought on that. Thank you very much. Uh, people hit that like. Yeah, like, subscribe, notifications, and share with your friends and family. Uh, and I don't care. Make clips of it and share it far and wide. Blue tier. Thank you. That's very generous. Uh, very, very, very generous. Thank you. Um, Andrea also very generous. I like these people that don't have much to say. Uh, hey Baron Cameron is going live at 6:15. Good. I got 37 minutes or 32 minutes now. 32 minutes. I wouldn't say I had a friend murdered. Just saying. I don't have I ever had a friend murdered? I've known people who've been murdered. I don't know if I've ever had a friend murdered. I certainly wouldn't say it's the first time I've had a friend murdered. I would say it's the only time I've had a friend murdered. First in indicates there's a second coming. Uh Baron, not only do you under uh uncover the nerdy details that connect the dots and provide leads, you do it with pache. It's much YouTube. Wildly entertaining. I agree. It's panache. It's great. Sizzle sizzle. Uh thank you for the generous donation. Josh Hammer's voice is cracked. He must shout a lot. Is cracked. Is that something the kids are saying? No, they say chopped. His voice is chopped. Correct. Um, you watch George Webb? I don't I I only have so many hours a day. I only have so many hours a day. If he's worth watching, uh, cooked. Cooked. Yes, the kids say cooked.
All right. Let me get into this real quick because this is I want to remind you first of what I'm looking at. This is where I need help. And this is why I am hosting a Friday night. I need help. So this is the original thread and this has the flight plan. Did a private contractor photo surveillance aircraft take detailed photos of the Utah Valley University campus just prior to Charlie Kirk shooting. This was posted way back in September. I mean 5 days afterwards. And I've not seen any real coverage of it. I mean look, it got nine comments and 23 retweets and 33 likes. This should be huge. All right. So, I I came across this. I looked at this. It lands at 11:50. Excuse me, 11:35. And I don't know that that's exactly right. I'll go back and show you the timeline I have, but it lands about the time the shooter shows up on campus. Now, think about this. Let's assume for the sake of argument, Yes. Yes. Yes. I got a I got two mods. Actually, I think I got a third one. Uh, Mad World only because of your awesome Ted Cruz outfit. Um, let let me let me say this real quick. I'll bring it back up in just a second. Let's assume for the sake of argument this plane was doing surveillance to know when they could send in a kill team, whether that's a kill team of one or 100. But they didn't want the kill team being spotted coming on campus by this plane. They wanted to make sure it was clear. So when would you land the plane? Well, you would do several passes for about an hour or so and then you would land your plane when you were sure there was no security and the buildings were clear. You would land your plane and then your kill team would would uh infiltrate the the facility. That's how you would do it. That's how you would do it because that's how you would do it. A timeline like this is very suspicious to me. It jump it jumped out to me. First pass 11:00 a.m. Last pass 11:35 a.m. Alleged shooter on campus 11:50. Now, here are the problems I've been told have arisen as a result of this. And we I don't know if I have time to do it, but we maybe we'll do it another time. If you look at these passes, they don't again, I'm not an expert. That's why I need help. If you look at these passes, they don't follow the normal pattern. And I don't want to give too much away. They don't follow the normal pattern of a of a company that's doing any type of overhead surveillance this time of day. It's all I'll say. >> [snorts] >> And if you go back and look at some of the other flights this company has had, this plane has had, if you go back and look at some of their flights, you'll notice that's pretty accurate. That's pretty accurate. I'll pull some of these up real quick and we can look at them together. Uh, for example, I have here the flight aware history going back to August. Here are the Provo. There's several days they were in Provo. Several days in Ogden, which is a city, I believe there's a college campus there. I know there's a Air Force base there. I've actually been to Ogden, believe it or not. But let's just pull one of these up. Let's look at the fight pattern for Ogden. Do you see anything different from the flight pattern for Provo? I do. [snorts] I do. What about the duration of the flight? I do. 3 hours and 4 minutes. Let's go back. Let's go back to the day before at Provo. Where were they looking? Does that look like any particular imagery is being done? It looks a little weird, right? It doesn't look like the work that was being done at Ogden, which was very systematic, back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. And then we'll get to the day of the shooting. This is the Charlie Kirk shooting. Again, five passes right there. And it landed at 12:05 Mountain time. That was my timeline that I have. 12:05 Mountain time. It was scheduled to note, you'll notice, to land at 10:18. It stayed up almost two hours later for whatever reason. For whatever reason, but I'll show you the campus that we're looking at is right in
this area right here. So, it just goes right all over that campus. So, again, I'm asking for your help. I don't want to give too much away about what I'm looking for or what I think I might find because I've been told, you see this, this is not this is not normal. This is not normal. Go back to Pocutella Regional and look at those pretty lines there. See those pretty lines there? Now, go back to some of these Provos that were not on the date of the shooting. Do you see pretty lines? Again, I don't want to keep going because all I'm doing is basically professing my ignorance and begging for help. I need help. I need help on this. I've been given specific things that to me raise serious issues. Um, now what kind of work do these people normally do? This plane normally does this kind of work. [snorts] US federal government agencies, state governments, foreign governments. All three of those would be relevant to what we're looking at. All three of those would be relevant to what we're looking at. Um, what kind of work do they do? What kind of work do they do? Again, this is because I need help. I need help. Oh, please. Those are the planes. I got the wrong one. Here we go. What are their services? These are the types of things they normally do. Rapid response, survey, surveillance, GIS, LAR, imagery. So these are the types of things they normally do. And you know if you hire this company, they have the capacity to take images. They have the capacity to photograph certain areas. Rapid response. You can use them on short notice. Again, I will put the link in the description to this thread. I put it in the last live show in their description, but I will put it again in this one. But I'm telling you, if you have experience in aerial photography of this type, you'll know if you have the experience. Don't guess. If you don't know, don't guess. The answer is no. If you don't know, the answer is no. But if you have it, put aerial photography experience and then email me at realbarpodcast@gmail.com because I currently as I sit here today, I do believe there's a connection to this plane and what happened to Charlie Kir. I'm I have a sneaking suspicion. I have a strong suspicion this plane is related or played a role. I do believe that, but I could be wrong.
Uh, have you guys ever heard of um something called threshold training? This is very important to everything that's going on because I put a I put a tweet up the other day. There were two guys in bright green hoodies at the at the event and I was looking I was actually looking for the video where I said I thought I saw Mikey McCoy stop and I still believe that he might have stopped, not walked continuously as Blake Nef said he did, but that he might have actually stopped near a white pickup truck that had the front door of the passenger door open. I think I have footage of it, but I have to edit that footage because in that clip, you see a really graphic image of Charlie Kirk being carried off, and I don't want to show that. I don't want to do the blood and guts on this program if I could avoid. [snorts] But while looking through the different footage to try to get um I I was making a chart, believe it or not, of every single person that worked for TPUSA and where they went immediately after the gunshot. Every single person, every security guard, every person in a TPUSA shirt. And this takes a lot of resources, a lot of effort, a lot of help. This is part of my research group that I need. I need this kind of help. Not just Blake Nef and Dan Flood and Frank Turk and Charlie Kirk and Mikey McCoy, but everybody. And there were some interesting things that I found. Interesting things that I found. Different people, not just Terrell Farnsworth jumping up and taking random pictures. Other TPUSA uh employees ignoring Charlie Kirk and taking pictures of random places. It's weird. But while I'm doing this, I can't help. These two green hoodies keep popping up. Think, who the hell are these people? So, I get zoomed in on one of them and I saw a logo and I ran it through every I ran through Claude. I ran it through ChatGBT. I ran through Grock. I ran through everybody trying to figure out who is it where what logo is on those hoodies. It looked like a lion standing up and it had a Nike and it had a number on it. [snorts] And so, I just finally thought, well, let me crowdsource this to Twitter because I don't know. So, I put it on Twitter and I think I tagged uh there were a couple people trying to identify people. Bay Sam Parker was one of them and uh Blake Bednards I think was the other one. Blake's done good work on this. And so I tagged Blake Bednards and and Sam Parker. And I said, "Hey, while you guys are finding people, can you ID this person in a green sweatshirt?" And I think u Sam was like, "Hey, it looks like there's two of them in a green sweatshirt." And I mean, and I'm talking about I told you in the last show, they had their sweatshirts up. They had hats and sunglasses. I mean, they looked like this while they were running away and and and and nobody else in the crowd looked like this. It was 92 degrees when Charlie Kirk got shot. Nobody Nobody else looked like this. And so if you're if you're watching and you're seeing all these people in shorts and t-shirts running off and you see two guys like this running off in different direct in different directions and they were kind of situated in the exact spot where Dan Flood kept looking left, you know, right before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, Dan Flood kept looking off to the left and these guys were right there and they were in such bright green hoodies and a green hat and sunglasses and they were so obvious that they were there. I thought, man, there must be a connection. And if there's not a connection, whatever. But I'm I have to raise it. I have to raise the issue. That's called threshold training.
In other words, the only way to get better at target practice is to miss. So, if I if I lay down and I got a rifle targeted in at a hundred yards and I'm a hundred yards out and I'm I'm a newbie. So, I take one shot, bang, every 10 seconds and I get it back up, bang, another shot, I get it back up, bang, and I get it back up. If I do that, and then every 10 seconds I am within a quarter, a silver dollar, I need to go faster. I need to go faster because I'm obviously good enough already at that speed. Now I'm doing it every five seconds. Bang. Bang. Bang. Now I've missed half my shots. Okay, slow down. Let's hold that five second pace and let's keep shooting until we can get it dialed back into the silver dollar from 100 yards every 5 seconds. Now I, you know, some time goes by. I do some practice. Now I'm zeroed in here. So now I'm doing it every two seconds. Bang, bang, bang, bang. And now again, I've missed a few. So, I hold two seconds and I keep practicing until I can zero it back in or I can get it back into that silver dollar every two seconds. And then I do it till I I can do it every one second. Then I do it to where I can pull as fast as I can possibly pull it and stay in that silver dollar at 100 yards. Now I move back. Now I know I'm good every second or more or faster at 100 yards. Now I go to 120, 150, 200, 300, 400, and I become an excellent marksman over time. Same thing with uh driving a race car. You're driving a race car, you're going around the track. How do you know how fast you can go? Sometimes you got a wreck. Sometimes you got to the back end has to give out on you or you have to over steer into the wall or you have to under steer into the wall. Somehow at some point you've got to lose control to figure out where the edge of the race car is. That's called threshold training. Meaning, if you only do it right every single time, you're never going to find out what you're capable of, whether it's shooting or whether it's um uh racing or whether it's in the gym. If you're doing a workout for time and you and you only use perfect form every single time and you're doing snatches and you're doing burpees and you're doing snatch looks freaking flawless, you're not going fast enough. Go faster. When your form starts to break down, now hold that speed until your form catches up. Then go even faster. It's the same thing with research. It honestly, it's the same thing with research. It's threshold training.
What happened when I put the uh green guy, I'll call him the guy with the green hoodie on Twitter, Sam Parker or Blake Bednards, one or both, retweeted it, asking more people. Candace Owens eventually chimed in and said, "Here's a better picture I have." I don't know where she got that picture. It's a great picture. She obviously has access to pictures we don't have because I've not seen that picture and I thought I've seen every picture. But she chimes in and said, "Here's an even closer picture." And then you know what happens? The guy himself chimes in and goes, "Hey, I'm the goalie at the soccer team." Couple of buddies of mine and I were out kicking the old round ball around playing the beautiful game and decided to stop by to see what all the hubhub was about. Sounds believable to me. I wouldn't think the goalie of the soccer team was involved in the assassination of a political figure. I mean, maybe doubtful. But there are other ways you can check. You can look on uh Google Trends, for example, and see if Utah Valley University Soccer was showing up anywhere. You could look at that guy's name and see if it was showing up anywhere. That doesn't rule it out. That doesn't make it definitive either way. It's just again just another data point. But the fact that he was so cheerful and and fun and was like, "Yeah, that's me. Sorry, that didn't have anything to do with it. Next question." Um, kind of put an end to it, but it lets you know that the threshold training was working. It lets you know the threshold training was working. Meaning, sometimes you miss. Sometimes something looks suspicious or looks weird or looks off and you raise the issue because that's all we're doing on this program. We're not drawing conclusions. I'm not telling you who's involved. I don't know who's involved. I don't know if there's the Canadians. I don't know if it was the Egyptians. I don't know if it was the Israelis. I don't know if it was the FBI. I don't know if it was the CIA. I don't know if it was Tyler Robinson and the Furries playing Magic the Gathering and hatched up a plan. I don't know. I don't know if Lance Twigs framed him. I don't know if there's a guy on the back of the stage pulling some sequence. I don't know. All I can do on this program is raise issues time and time again, over and over again, continue to raise issues that can be researched by the hive mind, the crowd. And once we get those issues raised, we can now thoroughly vet them. And sometimes they're just the goalie on the soccer team. But that's threshold training. If you don't exceed the threshold of safety from time to time, you'll never know the truth. Not every lead a detective tracks down turns out to be relevant. Sometimes you just, you know, sometimes you knock on a neighbor's door and you're pretty sure he had something to do with it and they open the door and he's a quadriplegic. I don't think he WAS RUNNING THROUGH THE alley last night. Does that mean the detective shouldn't have knocked on the door? No. He had a lead that led him to knock on that door. Just so happens just so happens that the uh Stephen Hawking opened the door. I mean, Stephen Hawking may be a bad guy. That's up for you to determine. But one thing we know is he wasn't running through the alley last night after a gunshot was heard. Rolling maybe. Actually, no. He's dead, isn't he? I got a great conspiracy that that guy died like 25 years ago, maybe 30 now. I've been hanging on that conspiracy for a while. Can't prove it, but it's a fun one. Of all the conspiracy theories I've gotten involved in, that one was one of the most fun. That one was one of the most fun.
Uh, did you see Kanye apologize to Rabbi Pinto? Yeah, I don't know what to make of that. I didn't even know that that Rick Patino had a cousin who was a rabbi. Apparently, he doesn't speak English, which is really weird to apologize to someone who doesn't understand you. Uh, and I also saw where LeBron James apparently had this rabbi on a boat or something while he was negotiating a contract. That's weird. Uh, I love the perspective you bring. May I also add it makes my heart happy whether you're a Hooser native or not. You're representing my home state. Well, thanks for what you're doing. I was born in the state of Indiana, baby. Are you talking about my my uh Kleenex box back there? I guess there's a Can you see it? I don't know if it's in the screen or not. An Indiana law degree back there. Um, yeah, I was born in the state of Indiana. I've lived in uh I haven't lived in Indiana except to go to law school since I was eight. We moved to Middle Tennessee when I was 8 years old. Uh, but I did go back to Indiana for law school. So, I lived there for a little while after that as well. Uh, doing my best doing my best to represent him. Proud. Bro was saying he made the stuckset worm. Was saying he made the stuckset worm which was an NSA unit 8200 op that infected tons of PCs around the world. I'm familiar with stuckset. I did not understand he was saying he made it. Uh but good. Thank you. So happy to help. I have full confidence you Canis and some others will solve the case. I think we'll do a better job than Josh Shapiro uh or Ben Shapiro and Josh Hammer and Jack Bobic. I do. I really do. Uh, I think we have the instinct of an Andrew Kovvette, but without the paycheck from TPUSA to keep us throttled. [snorts] Uh, more volume next time, please. I'm using my phone. The video clips are fine, but you are hard to hear. Let me crank myself up a little bit. I don't want to get so loud that the audio clips, and I have heard that sometimes. Uh, so let me let me I duly noted. I'll do some testing. I I got some equipment coming in tomorrow. Uh I love my equipment that I have, but I did order a couple pieces. One is the lighting. This lighting is so harsh that I'm using right now. Uh planes important clue question. Where's John Cullen? Great question. Everybody's asking where's John Coen. I've been following John Coen for years. I mean years. I've been following John Cullen since at least 2017. I'm a fan. I don't know where he is. Uh Pam Graves, $2. Thank you. Very generous. Uh do appreciate your generosity, everyone. Uh truly. Your flight question is exactly what Monkey Works covers on his YouTube. You should reach out to him. Oh, please. I am going to take a picture of your great comment because that's what I do when I'm going to follow up on something. So, if I ever tell you I'm going to follow up on something and I don't take a picture, no, I'm just kidding. Sometimes I write it down. I have a pen. Soul. Uh, super sticker user. Is that Hawaiian? Um, you have some hound dog jeans. Keep at it. In more ways than one, brother. [laughter] All right, guys. I'm gonna let you go get a bio break before Candace comes on. Uh, Candace at 6:15 Central time, 7:30 Ian Carol. Uh, big show from Ian Carroll tonight on Free Speech Friday. Uh, if you have any questions, you may email me right there. Real Podcast, RealB Baron podcast, excuse me, @gmail.com on x atrealon pod. I also opened an Instagram account. I don't have any on it, but and I'm going to go to Spotify here before long with some of the back back episodes that you can listen to. I don't know that I want to do video. May just be straight audio, which as much stuff as I share may not be very good, but whatever. Hey guys, I appreciate you joining me on a Friday. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, I would anticipate in the next two weeks doing the show on the super secret topic as well as giving you the full details of how I don't want to launch a member page and then not not have a schedule I can live up to. So, I want to um tell you what I think we would do with that. Is that fair? Two weeks. Two weeks to follow up with all that. Hold me to that. It's Friday now. Uh, that will be two weeks would be the 21st of November getting on Thanksgiving. So, that's a good landmark. Folks, it's been fun. We'll see you again uh Sunday night, 7 p.m. I got a big show already doing the research for it. Thank you.