Prophecy Night Roundtable

We have a special evening, as you guys know, and I thank you guys for coming out, man, and especially you guys watching online.

Um, we, we thought we would hit the pinnacle at the end of our spring, um, semester, if you want to call it, uh, of different individuals. So, the pinnacle is to bring Pastor Billy Cone out, uh, from Vegas out here, and obviously to have Pastor Tom with us as normal. And so, um, this is our last one before we take our summer break. So, we thought we would hit on a high note and end on the summer with Pastor Billy.

We've got a lot of things to talk about. Uh, a lot of things are developing, as you guys know, um, with the Trump deal and Iran and all this other stuff with, uh, uh, the church and whatnot. We're, we have a, we're going to cover a lot of topics. We're going to go for about two hours, okay? So, um, we're going to take a break at the 7 o'clock mark, and then we'll go for probably another half hour, and then we'll do Q&A from you guys. So, if you have questions that you have, get those ready. We'll have mics available at the end of it so you can ask questions and, uh, we'll roll from there.

Um, so anyway, make sure you have your cell phones turned off. We are, uh, not only live streaming, but we're recording as well. And so, make sure your phones are off and so we can, uh, have a pretty peaceful night tonight without any interruptions.

All right. Well, let's start with a word of prayer. Father, we do thank you, Lord, for this opportunity to come together, and especially at the end, uh, of this, uh, spring season. And, uh, we just pray that you would be with Pastor Billy, Pastor Tom, and be with, uh, all of us as we discuss what you're doing in the world from a prophetic standpoint, and help us to see clearly, um, your hand as moving things in the direction to ultimately bring Jesus back, not only for the church, but eventually for Him to rule and reign from, uh, Jerusalem. And we look forward to that. And so, Father, grant us wisdom, grant us understanding, and be with our electronics tonight. Make sure everything works, the live stream works, and that we don't have any interference from any, uh, demonic, uh, interference or satanic. And so, send your angels to protect us and guard us. We pray now in Jesus' name. Amen.

>> All right. So, you many of you guys already know Pastor Billy Cone and, uh, uh, Get a Life Ministry, and you guys can go check out his website, uh, and get all of his resources. There are tons of resources. And so, I'm privileged to have him, privileged to have Tom from Hope for His for Our Times. And Tom's been with us on, on these interviews. And so, we're going to kind of do a tandem back and forth, and, uh, we're going to pick Pastor Billy's brain because he has done a lot of research on a lot of things, particularly Trump and the administration. And, and if you haven't got, um, his, uh, books, is, is my thing not working, guys, uh, on the screen there? There we go. So, you got "Trump and the Paradox Prophecies," and then you got "Trump and the Stargate Prophecies." And you're working on a third edition, aren't you?

>> Yeah, I just finished the, uh, trilogy, "Trump and the Temple Prophecies." Uh, we do with all things, uh, with, uh, uh, President Trump and his relationship, not just with Israel, but with the rebuilt Jewish temple. And if you thought the premise of them believing that he's the modern-day Cyrus was in high gear last time, it's even greater fervor the second time. So, we expose that. We also, with the temple mindset, a temple obviously involves a priesthood. So, then that becomes an opportunity for us to, who did Trump surround himself with as a priesthood? It rhymes with Paula White, because it's Paula White. And man, we blow that thing up. Not a good, not a good source of anything there. Uh, and then we finish with the really thing, you know, the Bible says that as Christians that, uh, uh, our bodies, these lives are the temple of the Holy Spirit. And so, it really becomes an opportunity to finish it out and say, well, where is President Trump himself spiritually? Is he a Christian? Is he not? What's his background? So, we expose that as well.

>> That's going to be fascinating. I can't wait to that. When's that going to come out?

>> Uh, Lord willing, we are scheduled to film August 1st.

>> Okay. Fantastic. I'll let Tom, uh, lead off with his first question.

>> What is the first question? Okay, so here's, here's the problem. All right, I want to get into all of this. I really want to ask you about Paula White, but there's so many different things to talk about that people want to know. Um, are we going to get into Iran and what's going on with the?

>> You can start there, whatever, wherever you want to start.

>> Because it does involve Trump also.

>> Okay. So,

>> Let's, let's go with the memorandum of understanding because that's what it is. It's not a deal.

>> It's a deal with the devil in mind.

>> It's, it's a deal with the devil. I, I, there's so many different dynamics to this. So, um, as we watch what's unfolding, I, I think we would all admit that Trump has a little bit of a pride thing going on. So, um, I, I, this is my opinion. I believe that he wants a deal at all costs. And it's not, things are really starting to unravel today. Uh, Iran has a completely different opinion from the things that Trump has said. JD Vance seems to be the one that's taking charge of this with the public now, which is highly concerning. Marco Rubio seems to be out of the picture altogether. Uh, Mike Huckabee is, uh, also out of the picture. I saw a post in, uh, an article in Jerusalem Post today about that, uh, with Mike Huckabee. But Billy, as you look at this, everything you've done, you have the two videos so far with Trump. Things are not going the way he has wanted. However, he seems to be want to be the king of the world. Mhm.

>> So, what do you say as you just watched just this last week unfold?

>> Yeah. Again, uh, I, is this even this latest one that they just, uh, are signing? I mean, it's really, uh, if you read it, it's really just a 60-day extension of, uh, non-military conflict between, uh, Iran, the US. Uh, and so again, and, and what has been going on, I, I, for, I actually personally lost count. It's 30 some, close to 40 times it said, "Hey, there's a deal." "No, there's not." "Hey, there's a deal." "Hey, there's peace." "No, there's not." "Hey, it's open." "No, it's not." "Hey, it's closed." You, it's just. And so, you know, not to be a naysayer, but it's just like, okay, what's going to happen with this one? You know? And everybody's like, "This is it." Well, is it really? We don't know. Uh, I agree. Uh, wouldn't trust Iran with a 10-foot pole. And, uh, I think, uh, my first clue that something, uh, weird is going on was when, uh, we went into Iran. Uh, I think maybe I'm not alone, but I think most of us were thinking, "Oh, this is going to be what they did to Venezuela." Remember that? You go into Venezuela and it was a bang. It's over. We're in control. That's not what happened here. That's not what's been happening here. And it's become this long, contracted thing. I'm going, "Why is this being dragged out? What's going on?" So, that was my first clue. Okay, there's something going on here. Uh, and I get it, they're bigger than Venezuela, but still. Uh, and I think that's starting to lead to where Trump's at with like, uh, "I need a deal at all costs." In my opinion, I think he's got the midterms coming up, and he better fix something very fast. Whether or not this is going to, uh, really prove to be, um, um, uh, an opportunity to, uh, get Iran to come in line. Uh, I think the clock is ticking. If I were to guess, Iran's probably playing that, knowing that, uh, midterms are coming up, and if we could just keep dancing around and stalemate and and whatever, then, uh, eventually it's going to get the US to capitulate, uh, to what they want. So, what kind of a deal is that? Uh, so, so to me, it remains to be seen whether this latest one is it or not, but, uh, I, I don't trust Iran. We, we know what they're about. We know what they've said for a long time, uh, that they want to, of course, and they're the biggest sponsor of terrorism against Israel, and not just terrorism against Israel, as we all know, you guys know, uh, they want to annihilate Israel. Uh, but then even with this, if you read the fine print with this latest so-called agreement, um, then it, it's, it's a deal that requires Israel to stop any action on Lebanon, which they've already said, "We ain't going to do it." So, again, it's, are we there? Is not? Is up? It's down, whatever. Uh, but at the end of the day, the one of the things that we cover that we can say emphatically, uh, according to the Bible, is Revelation 17 says that the Bible, the Bible says that at the end of the day, all countries on the planet, all 200 and some, including Iran, are going to be combined into 10 unions. They're going to be, uh, consolidated, grouped together with other countries. And then once that happens, they're going to be ruled by 10 guys, implying in the text that, uh, we don't get to vote on. They just do it, which is what they're doing. And then at that point, they're going to hand all that power over to the Antichrist. And so, bottom line is, the one thing that I think we can agree on is that Iran's going to get swallowed up into one of these unions. Iran cannot be its own sovereign nation. And, and that's also been the plan for the globalists for a long time, way back in the early '70s with Klaus Schwab, uh, the Club of Rome, the World Economic Forum. So, we know that's where it's headed one way or another. Uh, and I will say this, um, at best, uh, Iran being consolidated into one of these economic regions, um, if, if you will, to, for better proper management and peace around the planet, is what how they pitch it. Uh, it's going to be temporary because you have the other prophecy, Gog and Magog, Ezekiel 30 and 39. Iran is again going to be back on the scene, quote, wanting to annihilate Israel. So, at best, even with this economic kingdom, Iran losing, if you will, their sovereignty, being combined, uh, it's going to be temporary, uh, at best, because they're going to come hard against Israel again.

So, I, I want to go back to this deal in just a bit because how I want to talk about how it affects Israel, but let's go back to what you just said. Let me go back to, um, from your, from your presentations, I've heard you talk about these things. So, this was post, post New World Map. It was 10 regions after World War II. And then you talked about the Club of Rome. There's the Club of Rome's map. It has 10 regions. Uh, I pulled this off of the UN in 2009. This is the one of the UN. They had the world, uh, grouped up into 10. And then you talked about, I was, we were in Sacramento and you were talking about the Technate of America.

>> Yeah.

>> Explain what, what you discovered about all of this and Trump, and you wrote about it, and obviously you did the DVDs. So, it's fascinating.

>> Yeah, the Technate map, uh, was produced by the Technocracy movement. You guys have maybe been familiar with the Technocracy movement and, uh, but basically, that was a movement that started, uh, post World War I and after the Great Depression, and they basically stated that, uh, see, look at this, after World War I, the Great Depression, uh, the governments, the politicians have proven that they're inept to bring about world peace and order to the planet. So, it's up to the technology elites, the scientists, the tech moguls to get the job done. Hence, Technocracy, technology will rule and bring in this supposed utopia. And that's a legitimate movement. It's never gone away. It's still in mega high gear. And, but basically, they produced a map called the Technate map, as you see right there. And that's their new vision for a new North America. And again, the reason what that plays into is that's almost carbon copy the same region, same union of countries as the Club of Rome map, except with the exception, it goes a little further down south. And I'll get to that in a second. And then, uh, they believe that this Technocracy movement is, you combine this new North American Union, and this is going to be a part of bringing peace and order to the planet. And you're going like, "Okay, well, that's interesting. Uh, what's that got to do with Trump?" Well, a couple different things. Uh, number one, if you take a look at that map, 100%, 100% of every country on there is being consolidated in along with the United States. 100%. Not 50 of them, not 75, 100%. And we bring this out in great detail. Uh, and of course, it starts to explain, uh, a lot of things that we've, it's happened so fast, we forget the news cycle, uh, why Trump in the second term, he was so hot to trot to basically increase the size of the United States of America. And again, people call it the Monroe Doctrine, American expansionist, whatever you want to call it, at the end of the day, America as we know it will no longer exist. We're going to be a conglomeration, a union of countries. I don't care what your justification is, but America as we know it will be like the European Union with all these countries. Now, this starts to explain when you look at this map. Uh, remember when Trump gets in office and he started, actually a little bit prior, he started talking about Canada becoming the 51st state. Remember that? Remember? And we're like, "Well, that's kind of weird, but that's Trump and he's, you know, Mr. Bravado and haha, but he's not serious, is he?" Yeah, he's very serious. Uh, and then all of a sudden, if you look at that map, what's up there towards the top? That's Greenland. Remember that? All of a sudden, he's, "What? What's up with Greenland?" And just even recently, last week, uh, again, they said, "Oh, it currently belongs to Denmark, currently, right? They're not done." And she, well, why are they after Greenland? Well, it's on the map. And then if you go down, all of a sudden, as Trump gets in office, he says, "We're going to get back the Panama Canal." Well, man, out of the blue, on top. What? Because it's on the map. And then if you look at the southernmost part of that map, you're going to see two countries. On the far right, there is Venezuela. Have we already forgotten about that? Trump went in there and man, we got Venezuela now. Well, of all places, why in the world Venezuela? I get it. There was Russian connections down there. I get it that they were part of the Dominion voting machine. There's all kinds. And I'm not saying there's not legitimate, if you will, military geopolitical reasons to go in these areas. I'm just saying, at the end of the day, America as we know it will no longer be in America. And that's what Revelation 17 says. But it's happening before our very eyes. Uh, and by the way, if it was wrong for previous administrations, including Bush Jr., who really started this, folks, why is it okay for this administration? Why can't we talk about it? Does that make me be a communist? I mean, think about it, right? Why can't we talk about it? But anyway, so he goes and gets Venezuela. Now, if you notice the island countries there, that's the big one's called Cuba. Any action on Cuba? Any pressure on Cuba? Has it been on video that after Iran, who's next? Cuba. Why? And folks, this is how long's it, how's you been in office? It's, it's happening so fast, we forget the news cycle. So Cuba's next. And then you're like, well, there's only two countries, according to that map, that's left. Uh, if you look to the left of Venezuela, that's Colombia. And then of course, Mexico itself. Have you seen the news? The same justification to go into Venezuela, the drug runners. I have on video saying, including Trump saying at the White House, that, uh, if those drug people and the cartels don't clean up their act in Colombia and Mexico, he's not against military, uh, force. So, 100% of those countries, uh, are being consolidated. And at the end of the day, back in the day when Bush Jr. did it, when Obama did it, when, uh, Biden did it, they called it the North American Union. The only difference from that plan, this Technate map, is it goes a little further south. But here's my point. The other smoking gun thing that we bring out, and at first I'm going, "No, when I first heard this, no way. This is, this has got to be a conspiracy theory." But you do your research and go, "You got to be kidding me." And by the way, this map, uh, is not AI generated. Uh, it's not Photoshop. I found this at Cornell University Library, still on file. So, it's, it's totally legit, and the Technocracy movement, you can study the whole history of it, and they didn't go away. Now, the other smoking gun was, why would Trump be doing this? And why, of all maps, would he follow this one and not the Club of Rome map?

>> Right?

>> Well, this is where it gets interesting. Uh, one of the big leaders of the Technocracy movement that produced this map, in fact, I have a picture of him in front of this map saying, "Can Technocracy New Vision for a New North America." So, he's right in front of the map back in the day. Anyway, uh, his name was Joshua Halddederman, and he was from Canada, and, uh, big science guy, tech guy, and eventually he moves to South, uh, Africa, and then eventually he and his wife have a, a daughter, and they named her May. May has a son, and she named him Elon. Elon Musk is the grandson of Joshua Halddederman, one of the big guys that produced this map of the Technocracy movement. Now, go back to the Technocracy movement. What's the premise? Technology, technology gurus, the tech elites will rule the planet and bring in a utopia with their science because the politicians have proven that they can't do it. And who's best buddies with Trump? So, I think there's a couple legitimate reasons other than just, what are the odds that 100% of those countries are being swallowed up in the United States? Uh, but, uh, what are the odds that the grandson, the guy who produced this map, is now buddies with Trump and he's following this map? But here's the point. Why is that important? Because again, God said in the seven-year tribulation that the planet is going to go from 200 and some independent countries down to 10 regions ruled by 10 guys. And they're going to hand that over to the Antichrist, which means, and it's a tough one for us Americans to swallow, America, as we know it, is going to go out of existence. Now, the, the topography, the industry, it'll still be here. America will march into the seven-year tribulation, but not as we know it today. It'll be one of these new unions as well. And to me personally, that explains why I'm one of those guys that do not believe that America is in Bible prophecy. A lot of people want to say America is the, uh, the, the harlot, Babylon, America's that. I'm sorry. I don't see America, uh, in, in the play. You like, "Well, what happens to America?" You would think one of the most powerful countries on the planet, if not currently the most powerful, why wouldn't it be mentioned in, in, uh, the last days? Because America, as we know it, will no longer be in existence. We're going to get swallowed up into one of these unions.

When you look at, uh, the border catastrophes in the western world, do you think that has anything to do with this?

>> Yeah.

>> And it's intentional to bring this about.

>> Yeah. Oh, absolutely. On, on a couple of different levels. Uh, one is it's, uh, by sheer numbers, and this, I actually have this on, on video, and they admit this is part of the plan. Uh, the reason why, uh, even starting back with the Biden administration, why were they trying to flood as many people across the border? And it wasn't just the Hispanic community, it was people from all over the world, as fast as they can get, as listen, as many non-Americans as you can across that border. Why? Because when you come here, uh, then they let you vote, and of course, all the other amenities that you get. Uh, and coming from some of these countries, who wouldn't want to be a part of that? So, they sweeten the pot to hurry up and do that. But here's the point. The plan was, and I have this on tape, the plan was, they were hoping to get a hundred million illegal immigrants into the United States because by sheer numbers, and then you give those people the ability to vote, by sheer numbers, there would not be enough red-blooded, if you will, Americans, Christian or not, who believe in our own national sovereignty to stop what was. So that was part of the plan, uh, as well. The other plan too is a built-in. You say, "Well, Trump put a start, stop to that." Well, the other part of the plan was it was going to generate a crisis that they were creating on purpose so that they could write in it and give us the solution. And that solution was a digital ID, right? Because, hey, we got to, we got to, we got to get everybody on a digital ID to prove who's really an American and who's not, who's a part, you know, but, but that was just, it's not about America, it's about the North American Union. Uh, because the idea is you're going to have these people coming across this new union border like the European Union. Well, how are you going to know if they're legitimate citizens? Well, everybody's got to get a digital ID. And that's already being put into play mandatorily in the EU, which, by the way, historically, 1993, when the European Union started, was the first conglomeration of countries giving up their sovereignty, one of the 10 horn kingdoms, and we don't even think about it anymore. And, uh, but the European Union is already doing it. It's mandatory that you have a digital ID. Now, I also have this, uh, on record from the World Health Organization. Pause for dramatic effect. Everybody's favorite. I, I do that on the World Health Organization and Bill Clinton is always very effective, or Obama. But anyway, so, but anyway, so they admit that the big plan is they're starting with these unions to get everybody on a digital ID. And again, the immigration crisis is the excuse. Do they have an immigration crisis over in Europe?

>> What's the panacea? We got to get a digital ID. We got to prove who's really real and who's not. And they're doing this all over the globe. And so, but the World Health Organization, uh, spilled the beans and a couple years ago and they said the plan is transnational global digital ID systems. So now you can't go anywhere on the world without that. Now let's add another layer to that. Uh, other, uh, gentlemen involved in this is, uh, Kill Gates. I mean, Bill Gates, and he's involved in this because they're going to add, the World Health Organization is going to add another layer to these digital IDs. It's not just your personal information, it's your medical information. And so, in order to be a safe traveler in these unions or transnationally, globally, and this is in print, then they will know your vaccination status. If you think they're done, folks, they're just getting started. Unfortunately, they're evil and satanic. Uh, but they're going to, uh, be able to determine whether or not you've had all their prescribed shots. And if you don't, you can't travel. And then it's not just travel. You won't be able to use government facilities. And then it begins to spill downhill. And this is what's already started in the European Union. Then you won't be able to buy and sell. You won't, your money won't work. Ah, and so that leads to the other layer. You're thinking, "Well, I don't care. I'm not going to get one of these digital IDs, right? Or they ain't going to tell me what to do even if I get a digital ID." Well, that's where they're adding the next layer. And again, the immigration crisis globally is the panacea. Uh, the panacea to fix all that is digital ID. Uh, but they're adding it to another layer, and that's the cashless society. The cashless society, if they ever get that pulled off and we're still here and the rapture hasn't happened, that's called game over. Because that's what they want. It has nothing to do with convenience. It's all about control. That's how they're going to keep us in line. And this is all in print. I have it on video. It's not a conspiracy theory. But they freely admit that now you could resist all you want in this universal ID system, a global citizen. If you say, "I'm not going to get no shot." Then they'll punish you because, uh, via your finances, since it's all digital, they can go, "Oh, what's that? You didn't. We told you you had to get your shot by such and such date and you didn't." They push a button. You lost half your savings account. It's all digital. This is what they're going to do. This is how they get you to comply. And, uh, you speak up online about this, you say anything negative about the government, uh, you just lost a week's paycheck. We just took it from you, right? Oh, hey, you ain't going to tell me to eat less meat. Have we forgotten the 2030 agenda? And those guys are not done. They're still serious about 2030, right? Just because Trump got in office, the World Economic Forum, the 2030 agenda did not go away. And they remember it said you're going to eat less meat. You're saying, "Well, you going to tell me what to eat." Well, here's how it's going to work. Once you switch to this digital ID to a digital economy, and everything's going to be tied in, not just your information, even your health records, it's all digital now. And the immigration crisis around the world is the excuse to put it into play. Then you go to the store and you try to buy that meat, and the transaction will not go through because you've already had your allotment. Now, most men get upset when I say that because we're meat eaters, right? Ladies, let me throw you a bone because you're like, "Who cares? I don't really eat a lot of meat anyway." All right, fine. Let, let me help you get motivated, too. And this is in print. They also have a plan in their wonderful utopia, this digital ID cashless society, that ladies, uh, you only get to buy one outfit a month. And that, that's in print. Yeah. Now, are you motivated? Yeah. Hello. Yeah. Okay. Uh, but that's only if you're a good citizen and if you, if you comply. So, basically, what Klaus Schwab said on tape, the China model called the social credit score system, they're wanting to bring it to the planet. China's been the test bed, but they're bringing it here. Now, how you're saying, "Well, how in the world are they going to pull this off?" Ah, that goes back to our other documentary, "Trump and the Stargate Prophecies." The very first day in office, what did he launch? The AI Stargate program. What was that? That was a $500 billion investment to speed up the process of AI. That's a half a trillion dollars. And then he brought in the gurus with this, Larry Ellison, uh, among others, and, uh, who basically have already proven that they're big brother guys, transhumanists. It's a creepy crowd to be a part of. And, but that's what's going to control this global digital ID, digital economy is AI. And so, the first day in office, Trump signs this. And if you read the fine print, it's not just in the United States, it's, uh, across the world, data centers, and we're funding it. And now people starting to catch on with these data centers. Uh, and that you're like, "Why do, and I, I live in Vegas. If you want to go to, uh, an hour away over the next mountain, you go to the intriguing town called Pahrump, which is in the middle of nowhere, right? They're building a data center there. It's like, I get Vegas, it's a big city, but why are you having? They're everywhere, folks. Right? And, uh, you're like, "Well, why?" Because they have to have these data centers in place because this is what AI is going to be running to control this beast system that's being built. And you hate to say it, but, but even go right now. These are the ones that are being built now. You want to go freak yourself out, just do a general re, uh, search online right now for data centers in the United States. There's not one state that doesn't already have a ton of them. Trump just put it on steroids because they're building this global beast system, cashless society, digital, uh, currency, uh, and things that, and AI is going to run the whole thing. Uh, but this is the system that they're, they're building. And I, I'll add this. This is the other, here's some fresh bread for you. Uh, SpaceX just, uh, went on the IPO. So, and now Musk is looking like he's going to become the world's first trillionaire. And people are saying, "Oh, he's, he's going to, you know, uh, it, uh, it's a good investment because he says he's going to take us to Mars." SpaceX is being used to build the beast system to orbit the planet. Now, he's been doing that for years, uh, with his, uh, internet service, right? Starlink, which just so happens to be a very similar name to Neurolink, the brain chip company. Because for the first time in man's history, he's using SpaceX to develop a matrix, an internet matrix around the planet where you can't escape it. So, everything that's tied into this matrix, uh, he's building that net. And I don't think, and I think words mean everything, especially to these guys. And why would you be building a Starlink and then you got a brain chip company called Neurolink? Are you going to link them together? Of course he is. It's all part of the chipping system, the micro system, microchipping system, which the Bible, Revelation 13, calls the mark of the beast system. So, he's building that. But let me, let me add another layer. This is just now starting to come out. There's another thing he's doing with SpaceX. Uh, and it has nothing to do with Mars. He's launching, as we speak, believe it or not, data centers in space, uh, to circumvent the globe. And because, again, this is what AI is going to be tapping into to control this beast system. And the ones that are being put on the ground are not very energy efficient and they take all the water, and people are starting to catch on, and there's a lot of riots. Musk has thought of an alternative, and he's got SpaceX to put it up there super fast, and he is launching AI databases around the planet because you can still tap into it. The other benefit of that is there's not a heat issue. That's why they need so much water down here, but not in space. Super cold. So, that's another thing that he's doing with SpaceX. So, I'm telling you, pay attention to that. Now, he's already admitted, and I'll give you another forthcoming thing, Lord willing, for still alive, still here. I'm telling you, you better keep an eye on, and we exposed this in our "Global Elites and the Antichrist" documentary. I did a whole giant section on, uh, on, uh, Elon Musk. And, uh, but one of the things that he's already starting to shut down some of his Tesla plans is the Optimus 3 robots because part of their vision is these guys are population, they're transhumanists, and they're population control people, and they want to annihilate 90% of the planet, but they still want to live their utopia. So, what they're doing is they're replacing humanity with robotics so you could, they could still live their lifestyles. It's sick, but this is what they're doing. And with the Starlink and now the AI database surrounding the planet, Musk is already ahead of everybody else. And this is the system that's going to feed his Optimus 3 robots, which are supposed to be rolling out possibly here in just a few months. And, uh, because, uh, his Fremont plant in California, they are now converting it to produce these robots that they believe they could manufacture from that plant at least 1 million a year. They're building another one in Texas as we speak. And they believe that they're going to get that fired up, and they're going to be just from that plant 10 million a year. And he believes that very quickly they're going to have a billion of these bots, uh, around the planet, and every home's going to have one, just like back in the day, every home's going to have a car. Boy, wouldn't that be amazing? And so, that's how they're pitching it. But, but his system globally is going to control all these things. And my concern with all that is he's controlling these things. And now, this is going to sound kind of freaky, but imagine if you wanted to get rid of a lot of people real fast and do something inhumane. You want to get rid of a lot of people. There's one problem when you rely on humans to do that job. Some humans have a conscience. And I'm not going to go out there and slaughter a bunch of people. I disagree with you. Humans can hesitate. Humans have a conscience. A robot doesn't. So, imagine he permeates the planet with these robots that he's saying any time now rolling them off. And what kind of an army would that be? What kind of a policing would that be? What kind of a world would that be? What kind of a world on top of the digital ID, the cashless society to force you to do what they want to do? And then you got all these robots at any point can turn on you. On the one hand, you got one supposed to be making you, uh, dinner, chopping up vegetables. If they get an order that you just said something bad, it'll knife you. And what are you going to do? It sounds crazy. It sounds dystopian, but I'm telling you, folks, it wouldn't put it past these guys. And you wonder why Jesus said the seven-year tribulation is the worst time in the history of mankind. This is the world that they're building.

>> Yeah. Um, just to, let me, let me fast forward to some of those articles, um, u that you're mentioning. Um, this is from Patrick Wood, obviously. Um, look at these articles that that just go along with what Pastor Billy is saying. Uh, WF boasts that 98% of central banks are adopting CBCDC's. 98% of central banks. Uh, that's the digital currency we're talking about, right? IMF managing director, "We are working hard on a global CBDC." CBDC. Yeah. How about this? United Nations planning digital ID linked to bank accounts. There you go. Um, Starmer announces intention to implement facial recognition digital ID to access social media. So, they're saying that, um, you know, if you want to get on the internet or whatever, you're going to have to be approved to get onto the internet. So, just imagine you being cut off, uh, because of your views, uh, that you can't use the internet or whatever, like Billy is saying. Um, this is interesting. Um, so Patrick Wood accelerated his timelines, um, um, he said by mid-case, 80% global assets tokenization, um, by 2029 to 2032. Aggressive convergent cases, 2028 to 2030. Architecture load-bearing across all asset classes, 2027, 2028. Um, and he talks about in this article about waves of of dispossession, your your assets to tokenization. He says, "First six waves completed by 2027 to 2030. Full 10-wave sequence completed by 2032, 2034." So, Pastor Billy, that that timeline's right around the corner.

>> Yeah. Again, if you notice there, what's the, you know, you're still hovering around that 2030 date.

>> Yeah. 2030.

>> And I've been warning people. Now, listen, only God knows if they're going to pull it off by 2030. Uh, they're not in control. God is. Read Psalm chapter 2 and go to sleep. But the point is, a lot of our brothers and sisters in Christ have taken Trump's ascendancy, and they've literally said this stuff out of their mouth, "At least we got four years. We can chill out." No way, man. Prophecy did not stop just because Donald Trump got into office, right? And, uh, so it's still marching forward. And my concern is because much of the church has adopted, and I'm talking even from our own camp, has adopted that mentality. These guys are getting away with this faster than they were under the Biden administration because back then during the pandemic, man, we were doing 2 Thessalonians 2 like we're supposed to, restraining influence, ceco in the Greek, withhold the course thereof. Whistleblower, that's a modern vernacular, right? Blow the whistle on these guys. We see the rise of the, the foundation being built for the Antichrist kingdom that will be in play in the seven-year tribulation. Blow the whistle. Blow the whistle. We did. Trump gets in. It's crickets. They're getting away with it a lot faster. But that's, the 2030 agenda has not gone away. And you mentioned, uh, uh, the, the currency there. Uh, if you, if you're not hip on that, uh, the globalists are still, they're down to three, uh, uh, currencies, electronic currencies that they're battling over. One is the one CBDC. That's the one that Biden was pushing really hard to get in, central bank digital currency, right? Uh, the second one is what's called stablecoin, but it's also a, a digital currency. The third one is Bitcoin. So, those are the three big global competitors right now, right? And, and eventually one of them is going to be the one that's going to be used, uh, in my, uh, opinion, the mark of the beast system. We know where, where it's headed, and they will use that to control all the buying and selling in the planet. Uh, but this was another thing that when Trump got back into office, is one of his campaign promises was, "We're going to outlaw CBDC." Remember that? And a lot of us are going like, "See, he knew what Biden was up to and he's on our side." Okay. Well, still waiting for it. Number one. Number two, and again, we deal with this in our "Trump and the Stargate Prophecies." And, uh, number two, he just goes from CBDC to, he's a big proponent of stablecoin.

>> Yeah.

>> So I'm going, "How's that a win?" You go from electronic currency to electronic currency. Granted, I may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer. The cheese done slid off my cracker. The peas ran out of my casserole. I'm a combination, you know, taco short of a combination plate, or, you know, French fries short of a happy meal. I mean, go down the line. I get that. But listen, I can figure this out, right? And so it's just the switch route because one of those three cashless currencies is going to be the one. But none of this has stopped. And it really concerns me that as Christians, I, I don't know the motive. I, I, I call it a psychological setup. Why would you be so gung-ho, and all of our churches were exploding at the seams? Because you had some shepherds that would tell the truth. And then all of a sudden, uh, Trump gets in, and we continue to tell the truth, and then people leave. They get mad, call you a communist. So, "Whoa, whoa, I didn't change. You changed." Right? And I call it the psychological setup. And, and it makes me wonder, I can't prove this, but it makes me wonder if this is part of the forthright thinking of these globalists because they're 15 steps ahead, folks. And praise God, God's above all that. That's why we can sleep at night. But they're ahead of the game, right? And so I wonder if the four years of the Biden nightmare and the pandemic, have we already forgotten that? Remember what they did to us as Christians, as Americans, the lockdowns? It's all a blown now. We, it's all, and the people making fun of us, mocking us for saying, "Hey man, don't take that jab." Or, "Hey man, uh, that's, they're doing this. Hey man, this is part of the Great Reset. Hey man, you better learn about Klaus Schwab real fast. Hey man, this is the 2030 agenda. Hey, you know, all that stuff." Remember that? And what they did to us? People lost their jobs, their livelihood. People lost their lives. People are still dropping like flies from that thing, right? It's still mass murder on a scale. It's unbelievable. And so, and so we had four years of that. And I, I, I will agree with this. Again, this why I call it psychological setup. That was exhausting. That four years was some of the most exhausting ministry that, as a shepherd, I've ever been a part of. It just didn't stop. And, and trying to keep everybody, the church, and the sheep, uh, as all three of us did, to abreast on what's going on. Man, this was, it was, it was on steroids, and it was, it was exhausting. It was mentally exhausting. It was spiritually exhausting. It was, it was just, it, it took a toll on people after four years. So, here's my point. So, I think that's when Trump came in, why a big chunk of our community psychologically took him as the opportunity to, "I just need a break." Trump became the break. I, I, I hate to tell you, there's never going to be a break. It's not going to stop until we get home because God's word is true, and we know what's coming. And only a student in prophecy knows it didn't stop just because Trump got in office. But again, I'll, I'll say this again. Because of that mentality, because of that psychological setup, I am convinced in just one year's time, they've gotten away with more things in this last year than all four of the others because hardly anybody is speaking up anymore.

>> Good point. Good point. So, I was going to ask you if you agree with the statement that Trump is an accelerator, and if so, why or why not, but you kind of answered that. So, I ask you this, is there any way to escape the system once it becomes, uh, okay, before it becomes the mark of the beast? So, as we see the system coming, let's say CBDCs are implemented next year, and we have this digital ID, digital currency, people are going to start freaking out. Is there a way to escape that prior to the rapture?

>> Yeah, there's a, the main thing that we have to keep in mind if we're still here, yes, we need to be responsible. We need to take care of ourselves. And I'm saying this first, make sure I don't forget it. But our goal in getting up every day is number one, Jesus, thank you for saving me from eternal damnation and hell. What do you want me to do this day? This is your life. Number two, get out there and share the gospel as fast as you can, man. Because that's why we're still here. We're waiting for that last Gentile, right? And, uh, but then, uh, in the meantime, we got to live. We got to work. We got to exist. We're in the world, just not of the world. What do you do? And that's the proverbial question. We don't know. Are we still going to be here? We know we're not going to be in the seven-year tribulation. Praise God. And we know that this is going to be full-blown in the seven-year tribulation, mark of the beast system, all that stuff. No Christian will ever have to face the actual mark of the beast because we're not going to be in the seven-year tribulation. That takes place in the middle of the seven-year tribulation. So, we're not going to deal with that. But we're seeing the lead-up. And the lead-up has everything to do with tyranny and the lack of freedom and control and all that stuff. So, on top of, put the Lord first every day. What, how many days we got left? And get the gospel out. There's practical things that people are saying that you could do. Number one, typically in these kind of tyrannies, uh, there

always seems to, if you will, evolve a black market, uh, where people kind of go underground and they're going to make their money. But then you go back to a barter system and things of that nature. That's why some people, I'm not a financial adviser, nor do I play one on TV. Uh, but some people are switching to what's called, uh, uh, tangible wealth. Because if everything you have is 100% digital, then they could push a button and it's gone. And by the way, that's the plan. When they switch to electronic currency, then they'll, you know, here comes a crisis. Oh, I'm sorry, you know, but you know, we're going to give you some bonus electronic bucks to make up for it, you know, but it's it's over. Uh, but but all that that was electronic is gone.

So, tangible wealth is those things that you can't push a button and delete right away. Some of it, to give you examples, some people, that's back to the gold and silver. Uh, but be careful with that because people, I'm going to do it all in gold and and then then if I need food, I don't need digital. I'm just going to use gold. Well, okay, let's just think that one through. I'm not anti-gold or silver, whatever. Uh, but go to a grocery store with a a gold bullion or a thing of gold, and what's going to happen? First of all, they ain't going to take it. But all those people that saw you with a chunk of gold, you know what they're going to do? They're going to stab you and kill you and take your gold. Or if they're really smart, which I don't recommend this as a procedure or behavior, they're gonna, they're gonna follow you home and then they're going to kill you and they're gonna take all this out. So, so you got to use some common sense here.

So, uh, but tangible wealth, it's things that you, uh, can't delete right away. Some people, it's it's like real estate. Uh, that and here's my whole point, to buy time. Not as in buy time, I'm hiding out in the hills. Don't do that. We need to occupy. We need to advance for the Lord. We don't go awall Christian. It's just to buy time to keep as much freedom, including financial freedom, that I can to keep serving Jesus Christ and loving the church, loving each other, meeting together, getting the gospel out. That's why I'm doing this financial stuff, as well as I got to take care of my family. So, there's that.

But even with the real estate, it truly is only buying time. Because a lot of people, they look at that and say, "Well, I know what I'm going to do. I'm going to go off the grid, man. I'm going to buy a piece of property and I'm just going to, uh, you know, build a bugout shelter. I'm going to live out there, right?" Okay. Well, first of all, they've already thought of this. They already know where what you've bought, including your bugout shelter and the pl that you bought. They know all the stuff that you stored up, every bag of rice and beans, all the guns, all the ammo, everything. They know it all. In fact, those people, I think, are be the first ones that they're going to take out, uh, in that system. So, so don't do that. Don't don't fall for that.

But my point is, so let's say you say, "Well, I'm just going to stay in my house, but what I'm going to do is I'm going to pay off my house." Well, good. Pay off your house. Get out of debt. That's always a wise thing biblically to do, right? Uh, but that's not going to lead to 100% freedom. And here's where I'm going with this. Because the system that they built requires us to pay taxes. And even if you were to pay off your real estate, your house, what do you have to pay every year? Taxes. You say, "Well, I'll just pay the taxes." No, you won't, because the only currency they accept is this digital currency. So what happens if you don't pay your house tax? Now you don't have a house. So my point is, there's no way out of it. You're just trying to buy time. And some of that mentality to buy time is to look for tangible ways to in theory buy you that time. But what time you have with as much freedom as you have, don't hide out in your house. You get out there and serve Jesus Christ and share the gospel.

Yeah. Amen. That's great. So, I want to pivot back to Trump and the Iran because, um, I'm seeing some bad stuff develop. I mean, I know we're talking about Trump a lot and I'm not trying to, I I voted for the guy, but I think a lot of bad stuff is happening around him. Uh, particularly with Israel, so I want to go back to Israel. Um, so, there so he he does this deal and I this I think Tom, you had this on your website. That's where I got this from. And it's Chamberlain, but they've replaced it with Trump's head, you know. And, um, the problem is they made a deal with Iran, but Hezbollah was still firing rockets into Israel today. Hasn't stopped Hezbollah. And then, uh, giving Iran permanent control of the Strait of Hormuz will be a disaster for the global economy. Yeah, I I agree. That's part of the deal is to give them back control of the Strait of Hormuz. I I don't know how we won in this. I I really don't. I don't understand it.

But here's here's the troubling things. I talked about this last week, Billy, and I want to hear your comments on it. Um, Trump is supposed to be the most pro-Israel president we have ever had. But then he made these remarks, which is mixed signals. I told Bibi, you'd better be careful what you do because you could be left alone, uh, against Iran very soon. So, you're going to be left alone. One of our greatest allies, we're just going to leave you alone. And then he says, you know, Israel wouldn't exist had not been for him. And then he chewed him out and cussed him out, which I'm I I'm not I'm not surprised that world leaders do this behind the scenes, but this came out to one of our allies. What the blank are you doing? You're effing crazy. You'd be in prison if it weren't for me. I'm saving your ass. Everybody hates you now. Everybody hates Israel because of this. And I saw anti-Semitic tropes peppered through that. And and so now, you know, Israel's, you know, um, Hezbollah's chief says Iran deal great victory for them. Uh, can be used to expel Israel from Lebanon. And I'm looking at this and and and so it it I don't know what to do. It's leading into more anti-Semitism. You got people surrounding Trump putting pressure on him. The what we call the woke right that are America First. They hate Israel. Why is Israel pulling us into these wars? Does this set up the stage for Israel's isolation? I guess it, I see, I don't know.

>> Yeah. No, I could easily see it playing into it because you already have a big, surprisingly so, a big chunk of, uh, even in the church, of anti-Semitism. >> Yeah. Uh, and that's that was a big surprise after the October event. Uh, and then even got another layer went with the Charlie Kirk assassination and it's like these people are coming out of the woodwork and uh, and things of that nature. So, you already have a big chunk of the United States of America, uh, including, I'll just say churchgoers, maybe they're Christians, I don't know. Um, who who already on that, who are already on that bandwagon. >> Yeah. One and and call for us to divest ourselves of anything to do with Israel. And then you look at some of their verbiage and it is straight out of World War II, Hitler days, man. Uh, the the remarks that the Jewish people are responsible for all the problems with the economy and the world system and this and that and the derogatory terms and and things of that nature. So that's already here. But the other half, if you will, those that are, uh, pro-Israel, including our, uh, current administration, you could see how even they could begin to start to crack, which is I think what we're seeing. And I think Trump got in over his head on the Iran thing, and I'm not a geopolitical politician, nor do I play one on TV either. Uh, but, uh, I think his first mistake was he didn't do what he did in Venezuela. What he should have done with Iran. He should have went in, knocked it out, done, got out of there, get the job done. We have the military to do it, but for some reason he chose not to do it right. And so now it's become, dare I say, to his own fault or administration's fault, this protracted thing. And again, Iran's not dumb. There's a taskmaster coming called the midterms. >> Yeah. >> And if he doesn't do something fast, they're going to get slaughtered. And then what's going to happen? Quote, get slaughtered. So if it if if they lose the Senate, right, or the House or both, uh, guess what's coming after that? They're going to go after Trump. They're going to go after his family. They're going to impeach him. They're going to do all that stuff that they did before. It's all coming back. So, there's some serious heat to fix this situation, which they got themselves into in my opinion by not doing it right like he should have. But it's growing. And the problem is he's trying as fast as he can to quote make a deal because of this heat that's coming. And what's Israel doing? Still defending themselves, right? Which people look as an act of aggression. I'm sorry if you, if these people around me still to this day are saying we want to kill every one of you. We're going to kill you. We're going to annihilate you. I'm going to defend myself. >> Sure. >> But see, now that's looked upon as Israel being the aggressor. And that's how it's spun. And so my point is this other half of Americans, the administration that's been pro-Israel, because of these issues coming up in the midterms, I I think you're starting to see even that other half start to go too, right? And and and eventually we know it's going to happen. I'm not saying next week. I'm not saying I don't know. But Matthew 24, Jesus is the one that spoke these words. And speaking to Israel in the seven-year tribulation, he says, "All nations will hate you." >> Direct quote. Matthew 24. Read it. So, all how many is all? That's even us, folks. And so you're seeing a crazy setup, uh, that Jesus prophesied 2,000 years ago that we're going to see even dare I say signs in this current administration that we thought would never happen. All nations are going to hate Israel and is it's going to happen. And this Iran thing might be one of the final straws to get the other half to unfortunately go the wrong way. Yeah, that's a good good point. Here's what we're going to do. I got a lot of other questions. I know Tom does too because I want to get into the alien disclosure. I want to get into the church, uh, what we're seeing develop inside the church. And us three have talked about this extensively. Uh, so I want to I want to do that at when we come back. We're going to take a five-minute break. Give you guys a restroom break. And guys online, you guys can take a break. We'll be right back in five minutes. You know, you, it's the emotion. >> Wait. Hey guys, we're going to get growing here. If you guys will, uh, come back to your seats, grab your drinks or whatever we have. If, uh, our ushers can shut those doors, that would be tremendous. We will start our second half and then we're going to have, like I said, some Q&A towards the end. Uh, hopefully we don't wear out Pastor Billy tonight, but he is, uh, he's on a roll and he's doing fantastic and he's exposing a lot of stuff. We got a lot more to talk about.

So the the thing I want to start off with and then I I'll give it over to Tom is again it involves Trump again, Billy. Uh, it's Trump's alien disclosure that's supposed to be released in in the near future. And we have heard things of that, hey, we've got, uh, Matt Gates saying that we have hybrid programs that we've done reverse engineering to these things and these are real. We're in contact. And I'm like, am I really having this conversation now? Years ago you did a deep dive on aliens and I remember hearing you on Jan's Jan Markell's program and I think that's the first time I we kind got in contact because of that program I had mentioned that on one of my things that hey, you got to listen to this guy Pastor Bill, I didn't even know who you were, but you had done a deep dive on aliens and pe I don't know if people here don't know your background, you were a former Satanist, right? >> Okay. So, um, tell me this. Why now? Why? Why does the government? They've been trying to hide this for 47 years or what? Or no, sorry. Since 1947. Uh, and all of a sudden, they're like, "Hey, we're just going to let it all loose. It's all real, guys. What's Tell me about it."

>> Yeah, I think it's it's obvious because I'm convinced, uh, that the whole alien phenomena is the excuse to explain away the rapture of the church. And I've got inside scoop information on that because in the pre-Jesus days, being involved in the occult, being demon-possessed myself, uh, altered state of consciousness, communicating with the higher spirits and powers, aliens would pop up and do the same thing, too. Uh, so they're all part of the same roots, it's a demonic delusion. And if you're the enemy and you don't want people to get saved right out of the gates in mass, because if the rapture happens, how many people around us go, "Oh man, I I my loved one was right. My neighbor, that Christian coworker, they just the rapture is true. I got to get saved." Well, the enemy doesn't want that. So, you better come up with some good excuse. Well, they have. It's the aliens came and take them. And I have actually still on file in my library, which I don't recommend because they're they're occult stuff. But they freely admit that, uh, that they're building in the excuse. These are the supposed aliens. Their demons that when you see, and this is a direct quote, when you see perhaps 20 million people disappear from the planet in one afternoon, do not be alarmed. They did not have, uh, these people did not have a high enough spiritual frequency to handle the coming earth changes, uh, to the planet at this time. We beam them up into our ships. We are rehabilitating them. Uh, we will beam them back when they're able to handle the earth changes. But watch this. There's two lies. But you who are still on planet Earth, you're a chosen one. You've proven that you can handle what's coming. It's like a badge of honor. So in one fell swoop, they explain away the rapture. And how many people would fall for that lie? More people believe in aliens right now than they do in the existence of God. And I'm talking the United States of America. You got even so-called Christians, churchgoers, let's keep using that term, uh, who are full on with aliens. Oh, I'm sure God could create life on other planets. No, aliens are based on the lie of evolution, right? And where do all lies come from? John chapter 8, Satan. Evolution is a lie. And that tells you what you're dealing with. It's they're demonic. They're a li they're liars. Liars come from Satan, demons. And, uh, that's what Jesus said, John chapter 8, because that's what they say. We're a higher evolved rate. Whoa. Right there. You just lied to me. And you go on down the list. But the point is, so why is Trump doing this now, his administration? Because this is what you would expect to slowly with propaganda. It's called self-disclosure psychologically to prepare people for the lie. And you go like, well, how do they know the rapture? They don't know when the rapture, right? We don't know the rapture when the day nor the hour. But what we do know is the signs that it's getting close. That's that's the other benefit of studying Bible prophecy. When you see the formation of a one-world government, a one-world religion, a one-world economy, a cashless society, all the things that we're talking about, the whole world getting ready to hate Israel, right? Including the United States of America. What are you talking about? You're talking about the events that are going to culminate in the seven-year tribulation. So if we see that happening and that's in the seven-year tribulation, then our departure is got to be getting close, the rapture, because we leave prior, right? So my point is the enemy, even Satan does not know the day of the rapture, right? But he knows the Bible and he knows the same signs that we know who studied prophecy. That is that it's got to be getting close because they're already forming. We're talking about the torn kingdom. It's happening before our very eyes. >> Right. Right? We're talking about a cashless society. They're already implementing it against people's will. A digital ID. What are we talking about? We are talking about events that are for the first time in 2,000 years that are coming to pass being built before our very eyes. That is going to be in fullon in the seven-year tribulation. We leave prior. So, our departure's got to be beginning here. So, here's my point. So, if in fact you're the enemy, you don't know the day nor the hour of the rapture like anybody else, but you can see the signs too. It's got to be getting close. What would you expect then? Therefore, before the rapture takes place, if it's getting close, you have to do what they're doing right now. For decades, they have been saying that there's no such thing as aliens and UFOs. That's the standard. Oh, it's swamp gas. Oh, it's this. It's whatever. Remember that? >> A couple years ago, they completely flipped. Why? Because the rapture is getting closer. The signs are proving it's getting closer. And so you have to then admit that it's real because you're psychologically preparing people for the lie. Soft disclosure, a little here, a little here, so that when it happens, you're not too shocked. So then a year after that, all of a sudden, they went from complete denial to, yeah, UFOs are real to what? And we have biologics. Remember that? And now Trump gets in and here comes another dump. And then here comes another dump. And I'll say this on record. I I can't 100% prove this, but this is my theory. Uh, I think there's a smoking gun with it. I would even say that Spielberg's movie that just came out is a scop for a couple different reasons. The movie got released. Guess what happened when the movie got released? Here comes the third dump. The ex of the UFO disclosure the exact same time the movie's coming out. You tell me that's by chance. No stinking way. Right. You're all working together. Now the other thing that's I believe is also why Spielberg's disclosure day movie is a scop preparing people to explain away the rapture to get that print in your head so that when you see people disappear it wasn't Jesus, it wasn't the rapture, it's those low spiritual frequency people. Oh, by the way, actually this is a direct line from the occult. They literally say that those people who got beamed up, watch this, this is a direct quote, are stopping the harmony of the earth. What's that sound like? Restraining influence. Second Thessalonians 2. And they said they don't cease to exist. They just leave this dimension as if going into another room. Direct quote. Anyway, so they're preparing for that. So, so the disclosure day, uh, if you understand also the other premise that Spielberg purposely put in there, and he's even said it on video, that it's going to shake up people's religion. I'm going to shake up mine. It's a demonic deception to explain away the rapture. Case closed. Piece of cake. What he means with that is, uh, other people, I dare I say churchgoers who are going to apostasy, fall away because they don't have a biblical answer >> uh for the alien lie. And so I can see, yeah, it's going to shake their so-called faith, but they've never had faith in Christ. Uh, but he builds into this disclosure day Catholicism is right there with him saying that their faith has no problem with this. It's in the movie. So why is he building in the Catholic theme this time around with this? Because the Vatican is a part of this and this is what we expose in our deep dive. UFOs, aliens, and the coming mass abduction. The world will get the excuse. It was a mass abduction, not the rapture. The ones that are going to seal the deal is the Vatican. The Vatican has a whole group of astronomers, uh, believe it or not, and they're evolutionists. The Vatican is on record for decades saying they believe in evolution. They have no problem with evolution. Excuse me. Did we come from Adam or an ape? Right. I got a big problem with that. But anyway, so but they're Vatican astronomer. Why do they got astronomers? Because they're searching for ET. This is all on record. Have it on video. It's in print straight from the Vatican. No joke. And what they're saying is number one, the Vatican wants to be the one to make imminent disclosure, to be that religious face to qualm people's fears. This is on this is on record. What did he just put in that movie? That very premise. It's not by chance, folks. It's all being tied together for such a time as this. That means our departure is going to be getting near. That's how I take all this, right? And they're going to keep doing it. Keep doing it because when it happens, people will be ready for the lie. But the other thing, too, is the Vatican, uh, astronomers, and this is in print. They say because they believe in the lie of evolution, they want to make imminent disclosure with aliens. They believe the lie that's also put into this movie and others churchgoers have fallen for that God created life on other planets. That is not biblical. Our existence is unique and we were created alone in God's image. Jesus Christ died once on planet Earth. He ain't going to die again for some other life form out there. It's it's li and he died for humans, not an alien. It's all a lie. So, but they believe that the Vatican, there are astronomers, and this is in print, that the aliens, since they're higher above us evolved race, quote, they must have a closer relationship to God. Watch this. And therefore, whatever information they've come to share with us, we need to submit to that because it's a higher relationship than what we have with God. Including if their knowledge of the Bible and the gospel is different from what we've been told, we need to submit to that. That's called a false gospel. That's another gospel. And Paul clearly says, "If we or even an angel, which demons, fallen angel, if we are an angel preach you another, uh, uh, gospel than what you receive, let him be anathema. Let him be a curse." He says it twice in a row for effect. Right? And so they're producing a false go. What's that false gospel? The aliens, and this is in print, have come all the way to tell us this is what we need to do. Earth's going to go through some challenging times, seven-year tribulation. Uh, it's not the wrath of Father God, it's mother earth cleansing herself. And but they're here to help us in our time of need. The aliens are our saviors. The Vatican also teaches, believe it or not, that Jesus, this is how they they're the Vatican astronomers explain the virgin birth. He is a star seed from the aliens. And that's where Jesus got his power. If you go to the disclosure day, they pepper with biblical terms, even mention Jesus' words to not my will but thine being done, right? And and things. It's so it's all it's a big scop to to prepare people to receive that. But what they're the the aliens say is now in order for us to bring peace back to the planet during these time of earth changes, and I am not joking. Here's what they say planet Earth needs to do. This is the new gospel, the false gospel that the Vatican wants to promote. We need to create a one-world religion. We need to create a one-world government. We need to submit to a global authoritarian rule. And we need to have some sort of global control with finances. So I'm going, really? You come all the way across the universe? Yeah. >> Just to promote the Antichrist kingdom? >> Yeah. >> That's what a demon would do, you liar, right? But this is what the Vatican's involved in. And of course, they want to control all the world's religions. Did you guys see recently? This is recently the new pope. You thought it was done with Pope John Paul II and Pope Francis. Oh, no. This guy's in, he's in the same camp, man. Uh, he's promoting the what? The unification of all religions and the Vat you see it on it's on tape. It's all over the place, right? And so this is what the aliens are saying is coming and they're promoting the Antichrist kingdom. The Vatican's all in on it because I believe that they're the ones because they've stated it. They want to control all the world's religions and things of that nature. Um, but this is why you're seeing in the Trump administration all these dumps and they're escalating because I believe knowingly or unknowingly, the enem is using them, uh, to psychologically prepare people because he knows what those of us who study prophecy know. The rapture has got to be getting close. >> So, you better hurry up and ratchet this up. And that's where they're at. That's why they're doing all these dumps because they're psychologically preparing people for the lie. >> True. True. >> That was great. >> Thank you. >> Yeah, that was awesome. >> Um, so it's interesting the timing. I I I believe 1948 was a marker. Satan knows that even if pastors deny it, Israel becomes a nation again. So we can see everything increasing like this. So when I grew up in the 60s, there's a very popular TV show called My Favorite Martian. Just remember that. And then remember Mark and Mindy? >> I mean, if you start looking at these things, the prep work and reading a lot of material, I think you've even written about it or done DVDs on it, the CIA's involvement in movies way back to manipulate people. So with Spielberg, it all just starts to come together and make sense. What is the spiritual movement that I would say Trump has invited into the White House or is there in the White House because very interesting thing there this this UFO stuff, it's it's spiritual. It's demonic as you said. So, what is really going on at the White House that's causing people to think we have this Christian thing going on, but it's really something different.

>> Yeah. I mean, man, that's a that's a great question. How far back do you want to go? Uh, the White House has been messed up for a long time. Uh, and I I came across this thread. I wasn't even planning on it. I was, uh, uh, teaching through the occult studies. That's my unfortunately background. And I did a 20-week study on witchcraft. I did a 16-week study on Satanism and a 30-week study on voodoo vampires and the rise of demon worship. And in that study, I was dealing with, uh, the the 30-week study, I was dealing with the, uh, the history of what's called spiritualism. And basically, as a Christian nation, um, at the turn of the last century, uh, people began to reject the church. Uh, this is, uh, you know, in the, uh, early 1900s, the 20s and things of that nature. Uh, you had World War I, the Great Depression, but, uh, the church began to fall apart and basically go leftist liberal. What basically saved the church from completely disappearing even in America at that time was a group of theologians, faithful shepherds, uh, who began to wrote, uh, wrote the fundamentals of Christianity. >> It was called the fundamental movement, which was a good thing. That's what saved off, uh, the apostasy for many, many decades because the church was about ready to go because they were into the social gospel and all this kind of stuff. The the the liberalism from Europe had finally hopped over the pond and began to affect America. And so, so they staved it off. And, uh, but during that time, uh, when they were trying to counteract that liberal movement, people were turning to other things spiritually in America. And that's where you had the table wrapping and the things that nature and the seances and you can see all those photos. Well, folks, that made it into the White House. In fact, it was back as far as Pierce and Lincoln that they had seances in the White House. And part of it is they lost some of their children and the wives, uh, Mary Todd Lincoln especially, um, grieving over the loss of her son. And I get that. But she turned to these spiritualists doing seances to speak to her dead son. And since that moment in my research, that occult spirit never left the White House. I traced the trail. It just kept on going all the way through. Even, and I'm just being fair, speed it up to, uh, Reagan. Nancy Reagan was heavy into the occult with astrology. And this is on video. You're thinking, "Well, okay, that's her. That's not Reagan." Reagan put up with it. Allowed her to do it even to the point where he, uh, they used astrology to determine, uh, his trips, his itinerary, and important decisions. So, so it's, it's not a party issue. And so it's been a swamp. You fast forward to, uh, Clinton. Bill Clinton, traumatic pause, right? I told you earlier. But anyway, uh, but, uh, uh, Hillary. >> Yeah. Well, now why are you faster on that one? He was just as bad. But anyway, so but so Hillary, what's she doing? She's got a new age, uh, lady in there and they're doing seances and she is connecting with Gandhi and other dead people and think this is in the way and this is still in print by and and Hillary, shocker, she was involved in witchcraft. I have that on video and stuff that nature. Uh, and then Bill, uh, one of the big quote in his memoirs, his big, uh, decisions to propel him to not give up on politics and even make a run for the White House was him and Hillary were down in in Haiti and they went to a voodoo ceremony. And so all kind and got impacted spiritually, right? This is the stuff that's never left the White House, right? And I said they'll go go on to that. So the spirit right now that's in the White House, uh, is, uh, definitely new-agey, one-world religion. You look at the, uh, spiritual advisory board of President Trump. You not only got this sewer pipe of false teaching with Paula White, but you look at the other ones that are on that list and go go look at the list. It's made up of one religion. You got Catholics, you got Muslims, you got all kinds of people, folks, that are in this faith advisory. So when the White House uses terms like faith, they're not talking the Christian faith. That's where we're being fooled. All right? A lot of the people surrounding Trump are Catholics. You do realize that Catholicism is not biblical Christianity. It's a works-based false gospel, right? No different than Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses. Go down the line, which means these people are not saved. I'll even poke an eye at this one. Fox News, most of the quote religious people, religious talk from Fox, Fox News are Catholics. And if you doubt, have you seen it? They do it every year. Ash Wednesday, they don't hide it. They're Catholics. They're not Christians. So these people surrounding the White House, they're into this one religion, which the Pope is promoting. They're going along with it. It's new-agey. You throw in one of the biggest heretics that's on planet Earth at this point, Paula White. That's not a good combo. You look at Trump's background, he was influenced on tape by Norman Vincent Peale, who was not a Christian, and the power of positive thinking, things of that nature, which is no different than the word, faith, charismatic movement, the power of positive confession, right? Uh, and a lot of the new age that goes out there still to this day. That's not a good spirit to be linked up with. So then I'll add to this. You got all that spirit going on in the White House, right? Uh, and I'll just spill the beans. Unless it happened today or super recently, uh, President Trump is not a Christian. We need to pray for him because he's admitted more than once out of his mouth that he's hoping with his good deeds that he can get to heaven. And we were talking about this behind the scenes, but to me, if ever there was the golden opportunity as a spiritual adviser to the president to say, "Mr. President, I heard you comment about you thinking that you're making a deal with Russia, Ukraine could help earn your way to heaven. Can can I just get a couple minutes of your time? Let me tell you how to get to heaven." These people don't do that. Right? And so, so Trump himself is not a Christian, which then begin to explain some other spiritual behavior, right? Uh, and so then add to this alien thing. The alien thing is clearly demonic. And then don't even take my word for it. You look at many of the people involved in this disclosure, and I'm talking people in the Senate and other have have you seen? They even admit that their impression is this really seems demonic. So you stir all this together and I'm sorry, there's a bad spirit in the White House and I don't see any genuine, at least somebody who has the care enough to speak up if you're a genuine Christian in those circles, uh, lead President Trump in a Christian way, a biblical manner. It's just not there. I'm not seeing it. But I do know that is what's around him is super bad, new-agey, occult, demonic, right? And so I can only imagine, uh, if God would ever give us, uh, you know, the eyes to see like Elijah's servant, uh, what's really going on in the spirit realm, what spirit is really leading, uh, the administration. I I'm not convinced it's the Holy Spirit of God.

>> Yeah. So that I want to segue into one our last subject and then we'll do some Q&A. Um, all three of us are pastors. We've we we're good friends. We're buddies. Uh, we've talked about ministry. We we share our our highs and we share our lows with each other. And I I want our audience to know and and the online audience to understand that something that that's going on. We all talk about the great apostasy that's happening in the church. But but you've seen it from your perspective as a pastor for 30 years, however long you've been pastoring. Um, we talked about this in Mexico, what two years ago, and we said, "Look, what's getting ready? What's going down?" It was three years ago. There's there's going to be issues that come that are dividing the church and divide the wheat from the from the tears obviously and we talked about these issues, what they would be. We we went through gay marriage and now we're we're hitting we we had the lockdowns and the COVID shutdowns and stuff like that, the injections, and now we're having Israel and that continues to be a dividing point the church. I I think about this. I'll give you my own example and you tell me as a pastor to pastor, what's going on here? I've been teaching about Israel the entire time. I've had guys in our audience that I have discipled for four or five years and all it takes, Billy, is one Tucker Carlson, one Candace Owens, and they're gone. They leave the church. They're dropping out like flies out of our church on the issue of Israel. The more I support Israel, the more people I lose in my congregation. Tell me, pastor, pastor, what in the world's going on with these people? What's happening? How could you be taken all o aside from a 15-second clip from Candace Owens after four years of listening to me?

>> Yeah, I think part of it is, uh, and I learned the hard way. It's just a hard cookie to swallow. As much as you teach the word of God as a faithful shepherd, as all three of us do, um, it's a really tough cookie to swallow to realize this is really what's going on with the average person who goes to church services. We we know enough Christianes and we will say this. Oh, no. Right here. Solo scriptura, probably the only Latin you know, the Bible alone, right? But really what I've learned in 30 years of ministry is it's supposed to be the Bible alone that governs our faith, rule, and practice. But what the practice really is, is it's not the Bible. It's relativism. It's your own personal opinion. It's your peers around you. It's the secular schools, the secular government, and heresy in the church. That's what governs most churchgoers' lives. You say the right things, but you don't do it. And so, when you preach a biblical topic, like you're talking about Israel, uh, they're, as James warns about, tossed to and fro like the wind. Every doctrine. You're over here, you're over there, you're over there. Well, no, just stick with the word. You'll be steady Eddie. But that's not these people because the Bible doesn't govern the practice. And here's the point. They will stay with you as long as you don't touch something that they don't want to believe in. And this could be Israel, it could be whatever. And I've learned even in the prophecy circles, this is going to sound kind of weird, but I think a lot of these people are churchgoers. They may even say that they're a Christian. But did you know that in my occult days, new age days, Satanist days, steeped in the UFO demon baloney, all that kind of stuff, did you know that a lot of those new agers claimed to be Christians? Did you know that they also were very well-versed on Bible prophecy related issues? Because even the lost are interested in events. Even the lost know that there's a coming one-world government, a one-world religion, cashless society, mark of the beast. And here's my concern. I think, and I've warned this many times as I felt led of the Lord to do so at different conferences around the world when I, I don't know, God maybe he obviously sees what I don't see, but I warn the people that if you're coming here as a form of Christian entertainment instead of leaving here changed by the word of God and to being an even greater lover of Jesus Christ and his people and the lost, you missed the boat. I am not here for your entertainment. I'm here to teach you the word of God. But I think a lot of people do that, Pastor Brandon. They're with you because, hey, that's exciting. Or dare I say, in a time of crisis, uh, they show that their heart was elsewhere. But I think that's part of why all of us swell during the pandemic years because even the lost want answers. Even the lost need some help during those crisis times. Doesn't mean they're saved. And so when the seemingly crisis goes over, what happened to their attendance? Or if you're only here for entertainment or you know enough Christianes and you might even know two words of Latin, uh, but you really don't follow it. The moment that somebody steps on your toes, you teach the truth, you're gone. I think that's what we're dealing with here. And really what it boils down to, we talked about this before, too, is we've been saying for years, the remnant, the remnant, the remnant, right? You guys have been saying it, too. And it's right. We're the remnant. Welcome to the remnant. Right? Statistics right now in America is only 2% of churches actually teach Bible doctrine, basic biblical Christianity. 2%. All right. Um, and so welcome to the remnant. But I think what we're seeing now over the last few years is the remnants becoming even even more of a remnant. And then what I think you're seeing with other issues, whether it be Israel, whether I'll even throw this in there with the UFO issue, because there's Christians saying, "I have no problem with God creating life on other planets. I have no problem with evolution." What? How could you say that? Right. But anyway, but the remnant is getting even smaller. You and I are living it live. And it's going to get to the point to where then we're going to go from realizing that the church is made up of a mixture of people, wheat and tears, sheep and goats. We use that analogy often and that's true. But it's going to get to the point, folks, where we're going to hit the next level, and that's the many versus few. And I think that's where we're headed. Anybody who's worth their salt, as a shepherd should, and you teach on the scripture, and you teach all the scripture, including prophecy, and you teach a biblical support of Israel, guess what's going to happen? You're going to start probably going down in numbers. I think that's what we're seeing. I think in that the pandemic was the first big wave of finding out who the fakers were because overnight we found out real fast who was going to stand for biblical principles, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights based on biblical principles, and then here comes the October event. That was another swath of people, right? And, uh, and then the anti-Semitism is just ratcheting up even more. And it, it just keeps happening. And, uh, uh, but what we're seeing is I think we're we're getting down to, I think, and this is the hard one to swallow. We're seeing just how few people are really born-again Christians even in the United States of America. I I remember one guy said this, "Hey man, I know what happens to America, uh, and why America is not mentioned in Bible prophecy." I said, "Really?" Why? He said, "Well, man, when the rapture happens, there's so many Christians in America, the whole country will shut down." >> Are you kidding me? I'm convinced it's going to be a blip on the radar. Go back to only 2% of churches. Just play with that number. That's 2% of people, 2% of the people in the United States of America are born again. That's not a very big number. Now, I'll say this very loosely. Take this with a grain of salt because I do not base any of my beliefs on what the occult says. But I do find it very interesting as I made that quote to you earlier about what the aliens are saying when they beam people up to explain away the rapture. Right? And this, you could, I don't, I don't even tell you where it's from. I don't want you because it's in an occult book. But anyway, but they said, watch this. Don't be surprised when perhaps 20 million people leave the planet in one afternoon. And again, they go on to say, remember I quoted that earlier. I've always looked back at that and again, don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying this is where I'm not saying thus sayeth the Lord. Of course, this is an occult source. But I find it very strange that even they pick a lower number for how many people are actually going to get raptured. That's my point. >> No, >> not saying thus sayeth the Lord. They didn't say two billion. Don't be surprised when two billion people leave the planet in one afternoon. >> They said 20 million. Again, they don't know more than any of us know. But I'm just strange that they've picked a few number instead of a many number. >> Right? >> But I think that's what it is, Pastor Brandon. I think that I think it's God. If anything, it it's a blessing to us because, uh, when you get the fakers out of the church. >> Yeah. >> Now things can really start happening. Right. Now you really got unity. Now you really got love in the body of Christ. Right now it's you get the ball and chain because all these fakers, oh man, talk about messing things up. And that's what they're there to do. And some of them on purpose. But you get rid of all the fakers. Oh, watch the church shine. And for such a time as this. So, on the one hand, it's a tough cookie to swallow, but on the other hand, we got to realize God's in control and and it's it's for our benefit. He's getting rid of the cancer. >> Yeah, ball and chain is a good way of putting them.

That's exactly what they are. Um, anyway, hey, uh, with the time remaining, I'm going to do Q&A's. Uh, so, I know there's a lot of people with Q&A, so let's get the mics going and if you have some questions, let's uh fire them up, man.

Uh, I'd like you to talk about a subject you really haven't gone over at this point. Uh, and those are the uh, the people that are out there that are giving false information almost daily. The the useful idiots, which is the media. And I always think of the movie uh Natural Born Killers because Robert Downey Jr. plays the part of the the media who lionizes these killers uh and gives them all of this great publicity, but at the end of the movie, they tie him to a tree and say, "He's, wait a minute, I did all this stuff for you. You you're still going to kill me?" And they go, "Well, you knew you were going to get killed in the first place." And of course, they shoot him. How How is it that the media plays into what's going on right now? Do they really really have an idea that that's what their ultimate that's ultimately what's going to happen to them?

>> Uh yeah, I'll go for that. Well, if you if you want to get a deep dive on the media, uh I did a a a documentary called Subliminal Seduction: How the Mass Media Mesmerizes the Minds of the Masses. And that was a super deep dive on all things media. And I think like with any industry uh I think you got people, a very small minority that uh who are there for high ideals, if you will. I think even in the media, you do have some probably true born-again Christians, you know, let's just play the the averages, whatever. But I am convinced that the bulk of the media uh knows exactly what they're doing and they know exactly who they're working for and they're they know they're playing their role to a T and that T is uh to control the masses. We are not getting the news. We get the managed news and I'm talking even the United States of America. Uh and this is why there's calls for the digital ID uh to begin to even control what last vestige of free information we can get to find out what's really going on around the world and that's social media and the internet to get access to that. They want to control that because then they'll have complete control of information that goes in your brain. And part of it is it's a big brainwashing uh propaganda piece. A lot of people, even with Hollywood, I've said this for years. Uh man, I could tell you stories that'll freak you out. I I know a lot of folks and and it it's straight up a cult. I mean, serious stuff. Uh to where this is going to sound crazy, but I'm telling you, this is and it's the same thing with the music industry because music is a big influence on people as well. And uh it it's satanic. There's satanic rituals involved. Uh and uh part of the rituals is not only sacrifice of children, much of the things that came out in the Epstein files uh that quickly got covered up. Um and nobody wants to talk about. But that's their path of, you want to be the latest star, you want to what that's the price that these people have to pay. They have to sacrifice their children. They have to sacrifice a loved one, right? Uh, not to freak too many people out, but uh, you look at a lot of the Hollywood elites, go look at how many of them have lost a child or a parent just out of the blue. Oh, maybe that's a quinky. Okay, whatever. Here's another one most people don't get. Um, the Baphomet Satanism has a woman's woman's breasts as above so below. I'm not going to make the hand gestures. Uh, but it's female male combination. The other ritual that these guys have to do in these industries if you want to make it to the top, be famous, uh, is you have to transition one of your kids. That's another ritual. That's another thing, folks. We, if we could see what's really driving this, and and God told us this, the little G, the god of this world, Satan, blinds the minds of those who do not believe. And the media is one of the biggest, and this is what I cover in that documentary, is one of the biggest tools he uses using modern technology on a global basis. For the first time in the history of mankind. And he's using it to a tea. And I'll just throw this out there real quick. Hollywood, a lot of people don't realize Hollywood, take it for what it is, Hollywood. Well, there is such a thing as a holy tree uh and uh made of wood. And what's interesting is if you know anything about witchcraft, then uh witches use wands, right? The one supposed to, you know, he's a cult paraphernalia that's part of their rituals of power and spells and things of that nature. But according to witchcraft, um if you make a wand from the holy tree, then that particular wand has the power to mesmerize people. Hollywood. And what is it doing today? It is mesmerizing people around the world to believe a narrative that is anti-good, anti-Jesus, prepare them for the new world order, anti-Christ. And I'm telling you, most of these people know exactly what they're doing. They've sold out.

>> Good point.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, thank you so much for your time, gentlemen. Um, so I was born and raised in Iran. So, when we're talking about, you know, the whole treaty that they're signing right now and the peace treaty that they're signing, um, don't you think it's kind of odd that all of a sudden all these things are getting leaked between Trump and Bibi? Do you think that could be a almost just like the way he does when I talk to my family back home, they're like every time they talk about, you know, he has won the war 37 times according to Babylon B already. Um, he says something and something else is happening. Just to me, put a be explanation that this is like a good cop bad cop that's happening right now that there is more going on, maybe arming the Iranian people that he's talked about or maybe midterms or any other explanation because it just seems too odd from them two being such good friends and being on the same page all of the sudden all these leaks are coming out that he is cussing him out or, you know, signing a treaty that basically replace one mullah with another one, the younger one. Did we accomplish and one thing we know about Trump. He doesn't want to, you know, go down in history as another Obama. And this this agreement looks worse than what Obama signed. 300 billion dollars back to them and nothing has really changed. Um, so just think, just your thoughts on that.

>> Go ahead.

>> Me? Oh, okay. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Again, I I do believe that there's a good cop bad cop going on. I certainly think that uh again, as I used the term earlier, a psychological setup that uh Trump was pitched as the saver to save us after the four years of the Biden administration. Uh so I think there's some of that going on. Um and uh as far as uh this current deal is is this a win? No, not even close. Uh again, if you were going to do it from a geopolitical point of view, uh you should have went in and did what you did with Venezuela, right? Uh but you didn't. And so I think it's taken longer. That's the first mistake. Uh again, not to rehash everything we already talked about. You got the midterms coming up or whatever. So I I think there's some strain that's going on there. Uh at the same time, uh but it is not a good deal. Uh again, if you look at this deal, it's uh Iran where gets $300 billion dollars. That's a almost a third of a trillion. How's that a win? And and again, if we called out Obama when he sent a plane full of cash on pallets, then we we got and my concern is this is if we're not consistent with this information, with this information, the administration, what they're doing that's no different than a previous administration, and if we try to cover it up, then we're a hypocrite. My concern is this, not even so much deeply from a political point of view or a party point of view. It's as a Christian, when I get to the most important conversation of all that I could have with somebody, and that's the spiritual conversation about Jesus, why would they listen to me if I've proven that I'm a hypocrite? Right? And so to me, it's it's a detriment on the bigger discussion we need to have uh on spiritual issues. Um but uh this I don't know this is not a victory, whatever. But again, it it boils down to we can do conjecture, uh, you know, uh Bibi and Trump and they're buddies, they're not buddies or whatever. Uh at the end of the day, the only thing that we can be sure of is what the scripture says. Uh and the scripture is our guidepost. Uh and uh God is the one in charge. Psalm chapter 2. Who he who sits in throne in heaven laughs at these people trying to throw. Wait till you see what happens when Jesus comes back, right? Uh they're they're they're the ultimate losers uh with that. But uh that's why we got to we we need to be informed with the world what's going on, but not at the expense of the scripture. And we always have to stay close to the scripture because again, the scripture, we we just talked about it tonight. We know where this is all headed. Iran's going to get swallowed up for a period apparently into a union. So at some point Iran is going to, if you will, lose their sovereignty. Maybe that's what we're seeing right now, maybe later. I don't know. But something's in play. But we can be sure of that. We can also be sure of that it's very temporary because they're going to turn around with Russia and Turkey and a couple other nations and they're going to come and commit the sin of the Gog war. Ezekiel 38. Right. And then we're going to know that uh Iran, no matter if they even get a new regime in or not, which I think was another mistake um then uh from the Trump administration, then uh we know that's even going to be temporary because we just quoted again Matthew 24, all nations are going to turn against Israel. So those are the things we can be sure of.

>> Uh, Pastor Cone, this is for you. Uh, it's more of a comment, but I would like maybe a little feedback from you. Um, if if you care to do so. Um, I've realized I've become aware of uh we talked about the robots coming and how they don't have a conscience. They're reckless. They there's no humaneness in them. They won't feel sorry for you if they want to get rid of you. Um, also just for us to remember that um that the um um spirits, the dark side do and can use technology. They could even worsen the robots. Um and not just just robots but technology in general. They can use technology against us. So to be that be aware of the technology that's around us and to um be cognizant of um of uh what this evil dark side can do, what the demonic spirits can do with it.

>> Yeah, I think we're already seeing what they can do with it. Uh I I believe that uh part of the inspiration that we're seeing with a lot of this technology including the development of AI is coming from a demonic source. Uh and one of the smoking guns that I have actually on file is a video from a uh silicon engineer who's helping to develop uh AI. And I can't believe I came across this gem. As soon as I saw it, I go, hurry up and get this downloaded before it gets disappears. And he admits on tape that they ask, it's a secular interview. And the guy just asked him, "Hey, uh uh before I let you go, just curious, what's what's your inspiration for AI and developing AI? How do you how do you do this?" Kids, you know, the guy looks at him. He goes, "Well, here's what I do." He said, "Every morning, I come into the office and I meditate." He says, "And I continue to meditate until all of a sudden. My mind opens up and these beings connect with me and they've told me that they're from the future and they've come back in time to help speed up the process of AI." And then he, and this is his words. He says, "And then all of a sudden in my mind it's like they're downloading information." He says, ' Then I come out of my meditated state and that's the work that I do for AI that day." So right there, you're telling me that it's a demonic input. Now, we also know it's demonic because what we're talking about as 2 Thessalonians 2 says, as you the secret power of lawlessness is already at work. We're seeing the building of the Antichrist kingdom. We're not in the seven-year tribulation, but logically, the Antichrist doesn't arrive on the scene after Daniel 9:27 and makes the covenant with Israel, which starts the seven tribulation. Say, "Well, hey, I guess I better start working on a cashless society. There's not enough time." So, he has to have it basically built, pretty much ready to go for when he appears on the global scene, right? Turnkey scenario. So the enemy has been working at that for a long time with technology. And a lot of this formation of a one-world government, a one-world economy, cashless society involves technology. And so we know that technology is going to be used in the seven-year tribulation by the Antichrist, by Satan, by the false prophet. So obviously, it's a demonic source as well. So it's coming from a demonic source. It's going to be used demonically, satanically. Um, but I will state this and I don't know if this is part of your question, but sometimes people ask this question. Uh, back to the robots, there's some who would say that demons can possess these robots. I don't believe that because all that I see in the scripture is that demons only ever inhabit living things. Uh, it's not going to inhabit that coffee table right here, which just made Pastor Tom's day right now because he's been concerned this whole time that there's a demon inside that coffee table. I I I I've been watching you. >> I know. I at first I thought too, but no, go back to the Bible. Go back to the Bible. So, no. Uh, demons inhabit living things. Now, there's a demon behind every idol which is made of what? But it's behind it. Meaning it's the one inspiring people to worship that idol. It's not in the idol. The only thing that you see demons possessing is animals or people. That's it. So therefore, go back to a robot. A robot is not a living thing. Well, it can think like a human, but that doesn't make it a human. Or it has reasoning like an animal, but it's not an animal. The illusion that we have is that it's humanlike, a humanoid, but it's not a human. So, I hold to the scripture that says I believe that it's coming from a demonic source, the technology. I believe it's going to be used for a demonic purpose, a satanic purpose, but that in and of itself is not going to be possessed and controlled by a demon. Right? That that's where I land on that as well. Uh, and you go back to it and just to reiterate, as lifelike as these things continue to get and look, oh, go freak yourself out over in Asia, they're super advanced on the robots and they're not just making them humanoid looking like Musk is doing with the Optimus 3. Uh, but they're making them very lifelike to look like humans, male and female on top of that. But guess what? It'll never be a male or female. I'll never be a human ever. And part of it is understanding the technology itself. I believe the inspiration is coming from a demonic source. But the technology itself is AI is only as good as the database. AI is just basically a super high-speed microprocessor that is querying information. Hence the database. That's it. And and it it could move information around. It can learn from that information. It can come to conclusions with that information, but it's only as good as the database. But it's it's just a computer accessing this. This is barebones AI, artificial intelligence. Uh they can call an electronic brain all they want. They call it human, but it it never will be. Um they could say it's going to surpass human knowledge. That I don't doubt, but it's still a machine. It's a computer accessing database information. Now, with that said, that also explains why much of AI is the way it is in that it uh is left-leaning. It is anti-Bible, anti-Jesus, pro-one-world religion, pro-climate change. You know why? Because that's the mindset of the people who are building the database for AI. So of course it comes out that way. So it's not even a neutral technology because whoever builds the database controls the direction of the AI. In fact, just an easy example is this is when you make a query on any search engine or on your phone, Siri, whatever. There's no person back there going plugging in this clicking a button. Oh. Oh, he's asking a question about chicken. Why is it wrong? Well, push this button over here and this article pops up and pastor Billy was right.com over here. No, no, no. It's AI. A AI is that. So, but when you and when so when you search for something, why is it you got to scroll way down before you actually find something, you're like, well, that sounds about right or why did it take me so far to get because AI is controlling it. But AI is only good as the database. So if you control the database, the information that the AI, which is not human, accesses, you're going to control the information people want. It's back to a control system, but it's not human.

>> Let's try to get uh some more questions. One more or two more.

>> I just wanted to ask you about uh the transhumanists when they mix the robotic with human and when they're making they're adding brain cells and other biological things to computers. What what do you think about that?

>> Yeah. Uh just because you add biologics to chips because that's another thing they're doing to try to speed up the process of chips. They're actually comput uh using uh human brain cells. Uh the the problem is uh you can manipulate uh man's body parts and things of that nature uh and pre-existing materials uh but you'll never be able to come up with the spirit. Yeah.

>> Uh and that that's the ultimate sad reality that Satan's got these transhumanists into believing because they believe that they're going to live forever. No, you're not.

>> Uh Hebrew 9:27 says it's appointed man to die once and face judgment. Right? And then uh Job 14:5 says God's determined the length of our lives. We're not given a minute longer. You're born on time. You're gonna die on time. I even got one human transhumanist, I kid you not, who's taking all this technology and thinking he's gonna live forever. And he he says, "Well, so far right now, I'm hoping to live to at least 180." And then he actually says this, and he's not joking. Unless a truck hits me,

>> I guarantee you that truck's coming right when God says it's your time to stand before him. Right? But this is this is the lie. And uh because they are not going to cheat their date uh with destiny. Uh number one, uh and you're not going to live forever uh in with your technology. Everybody's going to live forever. It's either forever with God through Jesus Christ or forever in hell because you rejected Christ. And that's the lie of transhumanism. Uh but just because you can take a brain cells which that person is not there, the person's brain cells that you just took to combine with that microchip to make it faster. The spirit's not there. So again, even if you're combining human body parts with something doesn't make it human, right? The term in the industry is called a cyborg, right? uh uh and even the quote cyborgs that Musk is working on with the brain chips uh uh up until the point when you lose your humanity uh because that's ultimately where they want to push it. Uh you know, you're you you could have somebody right now could have a robotic arm. All right? Well, you're still human, right? Why? Because you still have your mind, your will, your emotions. You still have your spirit. You still have your soul. So you could take parts and pieces and mix them all you want, but you'll never be a human.

>> This is for after the rapture question. For all those left behind that don't want to take the mark of the beast, don't want to pay homage to the Antichrist. And they realize they made a mistake and they want another chance. And they can't buy, sell, they can't eat. They do the best they can to go to the hills. Um, but my uh my knowledge that I've read in the in the Bible, um, they if they get their head cut off or whatever means of death without taking the mark, then that's kind of their only way to heaven at that point that they have a second opportunity. Is that

>> No. No. That's not at all. It the the issue is can a person be saved after the seven-year tribulation? Yes. We see that with the 144,000 male Jewish witnesses that evangelize and then we are even told that there's a great harvest, every tribe, language, and tongue all over the world. So, we know that people are going to get saved. We also have uh the two witnesses that declare God's truth. And then we even have uh God sending forth the angel to declare the eternal gospel to the whole planet. They're going to have an opportunity. The problem is they're going to be slaughtered like flies. Not just the Jewish people. Zechariah says two-thirds are going to be taken out. God's going to sovereignly protect one third because he's not done with Israel. Uh and that's why we still need to support Israel. And we also need to witness to Israel. Uh don't quit. But also um the fact that uh you're going to be slaughtered like flies. Decapitation is going to be a form of capital punishment, but that's not how you get saved. That that doesn't determine your salvation. That would be a works-based issue. That's not what the Bible says. Uh but it is coming back. But also the verbiage in the sealed judgments um mentions that the people that get slaughtered during this time uh the Greek word sado means to cut up to file like an animal. So So the Antichrist is going on a hunting spree. Anybody that disagrees with this one-world religion, they're going to slaughter you like an animal. And some people will have their head chopped off. And but that's not how you get saved. They have to turn to Jesus Christ. But here's the point. The thing we need to be warning people the most who are in danger of being left behind is this. All right, let's just be realistic. You're telling me that if you see us disappear as Christians, then you'll know that what I said was true and then you're going to get saved. Amen. You mean to tell me you won't give your life to Jesus Christ right now when it's still relatively easy, but you're going to give your life to Jesus Christ when your head is literally on the chopping block and they're going to flay you like an animal. Don't kid yourself. Here's what we need to encourage them right now, today, while there's still time. Give your heart to Jesus Christ. Ask him to save you and forgive you and avoid the whole thing. That's what we should be sharing to people. Amen. Amen. Amen.

>> One more.

>> Hi. Um, I have a question. I have family members that like believe in aliens and stuff and every time I try to counter them, they say I'm just doing it biblically. I'm only bringing it up about the Bible. How would I counter them without using the Bible?

>> Well, again, uh, I not to try to sell you a book. If you really want it, I'll give it to you for free, whatever. But get our study UFOs, Aliens, and the Coming Mass Abduction because that's one of the big things I take a lot of time to dispel uh the myth that there's life on other planets. Uh and a and also that it's inconsistent as a Christian to believe in aliens when the whole premise denies the Genesis account, the first page of the Bible. And if I can't trust the first page, why should I trust any other thing? And so it opens up Pandora's box in a negative way and it is not a minor issue. It's an issue of origins, right? And Jesus is very clear again, he died for humans, not aliens. So once you make that first compromise, you make the rest of the scripture full of contradictions, which is a sign that you got it wrong because God never gets it wrong. He never contradicts himself. And so you need to think about that as a Christian, but but get that resource, UFOs, Aliens, the Coming Mass Abduction. Uh go into that in great detail.

>> Pastor Billy, just one question. You mentioned that um the Pope will have a task to spiritually lead people through the rapture.

>> He they're wanting to be the one to make imminent disclosure. Yes.

>> Could he be in the running for Antichrist?

>> Be the what?

>> In the running for Antichrist.

>> The wedding. The running could.

>> Oh, running.

>> Uh, well, to me, no, not I wouldn't choose somebody, the Pope for the Antichrist figure. Antichrist figure to me is more of a political figure. Uh, uh, certainly with the governments around the world. I would even narrow it down even further. Uh, that out of a revived Roman Empire, yes, Vatican's in Rome, but I think you're dealing with a political figure uh as the Antichrist, not so much a religious figure.

>> Great. Just looking for that USA connection.

>> Yeah. Well, no. Hey, dude. We get swallowed up, man. Unfortunately, that's what happens to us.

>> Okay. I think we have uh tired him out after two and a half hours here. So, thank you. You did awesome, man. Awesome. Give this guy a round of applause, man. Love it, man. That was awesome. Um, so this guy's got to get on a plane, go back to Vegas, then he's flying out for another conference, man. Um, the Lord's got you doing a lot of stuff, man. Good. Good stuff. Um, anyway, we're going to be traveling uh in October, aren't we? We're going to be in Europe. Yeah. So, anyway, and we're going to be in Mexico here pretty soon. So, we're doing a lot of traveling, trying to get the word out. Pray for these guys. Uh they they do a lot more traveling than I do. There's no doubt about it. And it's hard. Uh it's hard to travel and it's tough. But here's the thing. They they're like evangelists because they're getting the word out uh to pockets of our world that rarely hear a third of the Bible. In fact, if if anything, they never hear it. You're going to Tokyo in July, right? Where where you going in July?

>> Yeah, heading back to Japan uh this time to Okinawa.

>> Okinawa. Okay.

>> Bunch of churches God's opened up.

>> Man, they they just Man, they're hungry. They're hungry for the truth. Uh and then, uh Pastor Tom and I will be heading over uh to Singapore.

>> Singapore. Yeah.

>> Uh God's doing a great work over there. Uh then back to Okinawa and then like I said, later this fall off to uh Austria, Belgium.

>> Yeah. uh Italy and uh uh encouraging the remnant pockets of fellow brothers and sisters in Christ uh who are just so hungry for the truth uh that unfortunately I think a lot of us here in America take for granted.

>> Yeah. Amen. Amen. You guys uh be careful. Be safe and uh thank you for doing the work you're doing. Very few people are doing it. So, God bless you guys. Anyway, hey, we got to get running. You guys are dismissed. Pastor Billy, Pastor Tom will be up there if you want to shake their hands and talk to them. God bless you guys for coming and God bless you guys for tuning in. We'll see you later. God bless you.