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I don't really have time for that. I have a business. I have a family.
If you could give me 45 minutes twice a week, that's all you need to do. That would be enough for the average person. You change your life. You know, I hear this a lot now about this science-based training, but I actually don't know what science they're talking about health lab.
So, I know that your your opinion on real world results versus um uh laboratory studies, but these days, let me just put something out there. I'd like to see your response. These days uh you know people will talk a lot about okay the studies or muscle biopsies show you train a muscle and stimulate [music] uh hypertrophy growth and then muscle protein synthesis peaks you know 48 hours later which means that you can hit the muscle again ideally 3 days later or 2 days later.
I tried that cuz I thought hey listen I'm a scientist I'll try it and I immediately started going backwards with my progress. This was a few years ago. Went back to training each thing directly once per week and where there's indirect uh stuff, you know, arms getting hit once indirectly because of a chest and back workout on a separate day. Found I went right back to to progress again. And so, you know, I'm a scientist trained to do science. So, what how do you think about something where in a laboratory you can see something like protein synthesis peaks 48 hours later, therefore train every 72 hours versus the real world [music] phenomena? This is all very interesting, but if it doesn't work in practicality, what's it worth?
You know, I hear this a lot now about this science-based training, but I actually don't know what science they're talking about. I mean, some meta studies, I think, but how were those studies carried out, with whom, and so on and so [music] on. I don't know. I know the case study where he put on 65 pounds of muscle verified in a month by training like less than about an hour a week. I think >> those were whole body sets to failure. >> And yes, he was very underweight because he wasn't on anything and then he got sick. So, he's underweight. So, he's building back muscle, [music] but he wouldn't build it back without much stimulus. So, 65 lb of muscle, although it was uh muscle memory, let's say, had been that big before, but he put it on >> in a month. And you compare that with Arnold that dieted down to 210, I think, to do this film, Stay Hungry. Then he went back up to 230 for the Mr. Olympia, but that took him like 3 months. So you [music] can compare the two. So when the people talk about these science-based studies and he shouldn't train to failure, it's better to keep reps in reserve. I don't know which studies they're talking about. I'm not saying they're not out there, but I'm not familiar with them. I'm not familiar with how they carried out the studies. But if it doesn't work in practicality, does it does it really matter?
It doesn't matter. Often I I've spent some time with these and you might not be surprised to learn that a lot of times it's you know we got some college students they're doing leg extensions [music] you know we're looking at you know biopsies of the quadriceps this kind of thing rarely is it the kind of compound movements multi- joint movements um sometimes but but but not [music] always.
Well, I look my experience with the hit high-intensity lowish volume training has been I'll say it's not just about gaining muscle. I mean, I'm now 50. I know you're almost 64. >> You're looking amazing. I have to say part of it is also that if one trains the way that you're describing each muscle once per week, focusing on intensity, not volume, and so [music] forth, 6 weeks or so, then backing off for two weeks. >> You also find that in your peer [music] in your peer group, you're not the one complaining about pain, and you have energy for other things, which we'll get back to. I mean, unless you're a competitive bodybuilder, I most people, including myself, need energy to tend to life and want to be able to enjoy not be. It's not the soreness, it's the constant aches and pains that come from overtraining. I think that most [music] people uh don't have to live with, but think they do.
>> It depends on your goals. Yeah. >> But I really believe the average person Yeah. that wants to get health benefits from bodybuilding, weight training, resistance, whatever you want to call it, right? They they have a guy that's 40 or 50 or 60 guy or a lady, whatever. The idea is if you could because you've lost muscle mass slowly since maybe 1% a year since you're 40, right? And this is affecting your health, your metabolism, the ability to process sugar, many, many things, bone strength. And the number one thing that I hear from people is, I don't really have time for that. I have a business, I have a family. I said, if you could give me 45 minutes twice a week, that's all you need to do. Okay, you need to eat properly and and everything like that. But that's all you need to do for the average person. If you took eight to 10 exercises that covered your whole body and you did it twice a week, that would be enough for the average person. One for chest, one or two for back, one or two for legs. Hey, if you want to do some bicep curls and some triceps, you can do it. But you're doing pressing anyway. So, for the average person, that would actually be enough. And it's not theory because I've done it with people.
Well, like I'm saying, this gentleman that came along, we put 45 minutes in uh nearly an hour three times a week cuz I had him doing cardio as well. >> Mhm. >> Well, guess how long the cardio was? 6 minutes. 6 minutes. >> You got pedal hard. >> We're doing We're doing in um sprints. >> Mhm. >> Like on an air bike, it's my favorite because it engages every muscle. Push, pull, legs. >> If you do a 20 second all out and you can see how you got on the side of the thing, you can see how much watts you're generating. So now you have a target to hit or exceed every time. to do a minute, minute and a half warm up, whatever. Feel warm. All out. Balls out like the devil's chasing you for 20 seconds. First one's tough, but it's okay. Go down slowly for a minute. Do the second one all out. The second [music] one's really tough. Yeah. The third one is I've never met anybody that wants to do one after the third one because literally you can't breathe. Um, and the benefits from that again, I think there's a book called the one minute cardio. It's a bit tricky because it's not really one minute. It's 1 minute of sprints. >> Mhm. >> But it's 6 minutes in total. And they compared that to 45 minutes of steady cardio on a treadmill or whatever it is. >> And the results are more or less the same. >> Mhm. >> So what do you want to do? Do you want to spend 6 minutes or you want to spend 45 minutes? I rather do the 6 minutes. I do a bit of long cardio as well myself cuz I like biking in the mountains and stuff. But if you did that twice a week along with some weight training, that would be amazing. You change your life literally with that and a good diet. So the whole time thing excus is it's not relevant. I'm not [music] listening. You don't need a lot of time.
So you look lean and strong. >> Yeah, I'm I'm lean. I'm strong. I don't uh push too much with the weights. Uh >> and you kept your height. You know, a lot of people who don't train. >> Interesting. I didn't keep my height. >> Really? >> I got taller. [laughter] >> No, I told I posted uh about a month ago, six weeks on my page just teasing people. >> Uhhuh. because I went to get some orthratics in my shoes, you know, to balance uh out and uh the guy's got the measuring thing. So, I just stood on it and said, "You're 183." Like [music] 18. I've never been more than 180. >> Metric system, folks. >> Yeah. Yeah. Right. >> It's like 6 foot, right? I was 10, 510 and a half, 5'11 maybe. So, did I physically grow bone? No. >> That's what I thought cuz I'm 6'1. I heard you're 5'10". walked in thinking maybe people usually lose a little bit of height unless they train real hard and they make sure to take great care of themselves and then I walk in and yeah you're about 6 ft >> but the thing is why because I've been doing Pilates and functional training and resetting [music] the shoulders back my posture is much better >> so I'm standing straighter which gives me an extra inch uh of height so I've actually got taller now I haven't taken and huge amounts of growth hormone and suddenly grew when I was 60 years old is just my posture and the way I stand there's less curvatures shoulder there so you lose a bit of height because when you lift [music] and your pecs get big and your lats your shoulders rotate forward you're trying to hunch forward so you're sitting a little bit lower I didn't even know I was like measuring myself like wow that's just because I'm standing straighter and my shoulders are back the cervical arch it's more it's straighter now what we call the text neck for the kids. >> Forward, shoulders forward. You know, a lot boxers have it cuz they're always like forward with their shoulders. >> So, I've just got my posture really good. I've done yoga for like €7. I've done Pilates, do some functional training. So, it's all about getting this thing in the best shape. I don't have any pain, joint pains. I had hip replacement like 14 months ago, which is