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All right, welcome back to the Digital Social Hour. I'm your host, Sean Kelly, along with my co-host, Ari Gold. What's cracking?
And our guest today, Mickey Mace. How we doing?
I'm good, Sean. What brings you to Vegas?
Uh, so I'm gonna play a tournament at the Aria tomorrow, then I'm gonna play tournament poker at Poker Go on Sunday.
Okay. But, but it's actually, it's a problem because I'm banned from both Aria and the Wynn. So I've been battling with them over the phone all week to see if they'll like permit me to come and play the tournament, and uh, we haven't got a straight answer from anybody yet. So I'm just gonna pull up after this; I'm gonna go see them both.
So if you're banned from Aria, you can't go into the Poker Go Studios?
Well, this is the thing, because it is operated through, it's Aria. Like you want to play in the game, you have to play with Aria chips, right? You have to cash in and cash out through them. I've been in the studios, like I've been there, I vibed out, I've been on camera, whatever.
Sure. But they don't have like… First of all, everybody in the poker community like loves to have me, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm… it's a small, Titanic community, for those that don't know. I mean, there's probably what, 100, a hundred mainstream guys that everybody really, you know, knows. And within that community, you can kind of go into a room and just, you know, "Oh, that's [ __ ] Phil Ivy," or "Oh, that's, you know, whoever." But you know, within that, it's the same, you know, certain athletes, you know, you have A-list, B-list, and C-lists, and I feel like you're definitely in that A-list category.
Yeah, you know. So when I go in this Poker Go studio, it's like that, you know, we just hold me surviving. Uh, but as far as like actually playing, I haven't been able to play yet because I can't buy in or cash out. Like I'm not able, I can't even walk into any of the MGM properties, particularly Aria, for some reason. Security at Aria is so fast on me, like I don't even have like, I can't even do a walk-through.
So you'll get grabbed if you walk in?
Oh, 100%. I post videos all the time. Well, you supposed to be… Did you go on my TikTok? You'll see videos of Aria security squirting me, and anybody I'm with. One time I was with uh, Roddy Ricch, Lil Baby, Kiefa, and Ben Kicks. We all came together, and uh, we're playing at one of the MGMs, and they tried to throw all of us out because they were with me. It was, it was a real big ordeal.
I want to know how this started. How did you get… how did this persona start? Where did… where did all the gambling come into play? How did you get to this level? Like, talk us through the journey.
Yeah, I've been… I've been gambling my whole life. Like my whole family is basically just like gamblers; what they like to do, you know. And uh, so when I was young, it was like kind of family time, like, you know, when the family was together, it's like, "What are we gonna do? We don't really play board games." They're like, "Let's play… play Blackjack," yeah, you know, pretty much. But you know, we'd play with like pocket change, like pennies, dimes, nickels.
Right. Right.
And so that's how I learned. I don't know, maybe somewhere around the age of five, I started to learn. And then uh, a lot of my life I was like… are with my grandparents and raised by my grandparents, and they were like lifelong high-stakes gamblers.
Damn.
So I basically grew up in like New York City card rooms, like, you know, I was around like these really iconic people, but I was so… yeah, I was a child, like, you know, you don't really understand where you're at and what you're doing.
Yeah, yeah. I didn't understand who I was around. I didn't really understand, but these people who, now as an adult, I realized were like caring for me, right? Like we would have all our meals in the card rooms. If I was ever bored, somebody's… very like iconic people that… but again, as a kid, I was just like, "Oh, that's, you know, Uncle so-and-so," or "That's the friend," whatever. And they'd be like, "Hey, do you want to, you know, go to Barnes and Nobles and grab some magazines? I'll come sit with you." Little did I know like who these people were. Only when I got older did I realize.
Right now. But yeah, I grew up in like New York City card rooms.
Damn. All right, so what was the transition like? I mean, obviously going from New York to Vegas, how is that kind of… how's that transition process going?
Well, I actually ruined my life first.
All right, explain.
Yeah, I made like a… I made like an incredible extended period of only the most poor decisions I can make, you know. I was partying, and I had like zero… zero… like regard for consequence, and uh, I was just out of control.
I was just living in your 20s, bro. It's all good.
Younger than that, actually, you know. I was like… that's like a early teen and teenager and just live… but living the thing is, all the people around me were in their 20s, living like 20-year-olds. So here I am, 13 and 14, living like I'm 20.
Yeah, you know. And uh, so I actually uh, made a pit stop down in Florida, and that's where I straightened my life out at, and I started a new life. I started working. I started as a day laborer, worked my way up. I used a phrase in my… in one of my first ever big interviews, and I said that I leveraged my way up until being like, you know, a fairly successful like business person.
Sure. But it was interesting how many people were not receptive to the term of leverage. So I think a better way to put it is, I just forcefully requested promotions.
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I just kept doing more work and saying, "Hey, I need to get promoted and a raise, and if you don't give it to me, I'm gonna go to another company," right? And so I just kept leveraging my position and forcefully, you know, requesting promotions and raises, and I got it. And at some point, I acquired enough knowledge, like through working, that I started some of my own smaller companies, and they built up. They built up pretty quickly. Um, and then when I stopped working, I was like, "I need something new. Like I've never… between you know, being like a troubled kid and then… and then I worked really long days and really long hours. I never really enjoyed anything. I never like… lived. No time to actually be a kid and…"
Right. Shoot the [ __ ]!
Yeah. So I was like, you know, at whatever age I was, and I stopped business. I sold some businesses; some of the other businesses I gave away. But it's an interesting concept because some of them are like… knots… without me, they don't make money. Like there was nothing to sell, like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah. I was the business.
So it's tough when people get to know the owner, and that's… that's really the whole personal relationship. And I… I honestly experienced something like that with one of my first businesses that I sold. The night soon realized that that level of transition really takes a… a, you know, a skilled person to not only hand off the baton but teach that next person how to handle the clients, how to handle each account, how to really, you know, connect with people. And I feel like especially in businesses with guys like you and I, and especially Sean, it's more… the business itself is more tied to the personal relationship and the connection than it is even the business. You know, you could charge the same price as the competitor, but if somebody vibes with you and they want to [ __ ] with you, they're going to, regardless.
But that's exactly right. So I made a comment in an interview how I sold some businesses and I gave others away, and they're like, "Oh, if you're so successful, you'd never give a business away." The thing is that there was nothing to… I'm not gonna… let's say me and you had that relationship, right? That you would take my business over Sean's because me… you were better friends, you preferred me. How do I sell your phone number like to the guy who wants to step in line? Like it doesn't work that way, right? I can't tell you, "Hey, some guy offered me a bag, so I need you to keep doing business with that… he's [ __ ] with that guy, even though it's not me."
Yeah. I can't do that. So like this concept of giving away… what it really was was like handing over a Rolodex, like, "Here's the blueprint. Do what you do. Figure it out."
Yeah, 100%, right?
Yeah. So I did that, and I stepped away from like making money. And the thing is, I… at this point, I had acquired, you know, some money, and um, I was like, "I just want to live, man. Like I want to basically be a kid."
So what was the allure to Vegas like from Florida? That's… that's…
Well, it wasn't… it wasn't… so I actually… I moved to L.A.
Oh [ __ ]!
Yeah, I moved to L.A., and uh, and that has its own allure, its own toxicity in its own…
Yeah, yeah.
And then when I moved to L.A., I always loved gambling. I have probably more money than is for my own good at this point. I have all the time in the world. And so like, once a week, I was taking a trip to Vegas, and… like pretty quickly, you know, it's all relative, like the amounts you're gambling… like what's a lot, what's a little… it's all relative. So I was gambling with what I thought was not a lot when I was first coming to Vegas, and I'd been desensitized. I'd been gambling since I was a kid and growing up in the card rooms. So for the amounts I was gambling, Vegas started going crazy. They were like, "Let me give you a jet. Let me give you this. Let me give you that." I'm like, "I didn't understand why." Like, all right, I'm like, "All right, whatever." And then um, slowly I started realizing what was happening, and I said, "You know, this is actually a very profitable endeavor so far." But I didn't enter Vegas thinking like, "I'm gonna be a profitable gambler." I was like, "I'm just gonna gamble. He's gonna blow time. Yeah, I'm gonna have fun. I'm gonna win some; I'm gonna lose some." But it turns out that I won more than I lost, I feel like.
But see, listen, and for as long as I've been in Vegas, it's almost like nine years now, I feel like it's always the guys that come to Vegas that don't give a [ __ ] about making money that make money, and it's always the [ __ ] that come to Vegas like, "I got my last hundred thousand, and I'm gonna [ __ ] win it," and then they come back and they're like, "I lost the house. I lost the car."
I think that's a huge aspect.
Maybe it is. Imagine this: a message to… last hundred thousand… you're gonna play like it's your last hundred thousand.
Yeah, you know. But if it's like… if you're gonna spend 100, you got another 100 million in the back, it's like… yeah, you're gonna play like more comfortably, more like in your comfort zone and in your space, and you're gonna respond more comfortably to… to high critical and high… high-stress situations.
Yeah, I get that. All right, so what do you think… I'd like to hear what your take is on somebody kind of figuring out that groove or understanding their own comfort zone, because obviously, like we just said, you know, there's different limits to playing, and obviously different price ranges fit different people. Is there a trick, or is there a certain um, mindset that you put yourself in before you hit the tables where you're like, "All right, if I can meditate for four minutes…" Or I mean, talk me through what you do before you hit the streets.
Well, first, I wanna… I wanna speak on the first part you said, and the way I could… with the advice I'd give somebody else is… you don't go to Vegas thinking you're gonna win. The truth is, honestly, you know, the casinos are so nice because everybody loses, right? There's only a few people in history that have been an actual winner in Vegas, and the few of us that exist have all gotten famous from it over time.
Yeah, yeah. Like not like a one-time… we're talking a consistent winner.
Yeah, there's only been a few lifetime winners, right? And the few of us, including myself, got famous from it, which means it's an absolute rarity. It's a very unique character calling yourself part of the one percent because you are essentially, which is why we got this recognition, you know… like Sean… you know, despite how long we've known each other, what have you… like you didn't invite me on here because I'm so good-looking, right? You know what I mean? I… I… I've got… depends on who you ask. I don't know. I don't know, bro. Careful. Thanks. Only a mother could love…
Hey, man, I don't know. For me, it's that shiny ass tooth. I'm just like… bedazzled.
I've been waiting for these diamonds. I got these diamonds 10 years ago.
And what?
Yeah, because… so I know the woman who created the tooth gems, right? Her name… the name Susie… shout out Tooth Candy, right? So I was one of her test subjects when she was first trying to formulate like how to do it.
So they're like drilled in your teeth?
No, no. These are bonded on, like braces… like the blue… oh [ __ ]… and all that.
Okay. But now when you get them, they like last like three to six months or something. I got mine ten years ago. She was going through like different testings to see like which glues and which this and which this [ __ ] never came off.
Let's talk about the tats. So how old were you when you got your first tattoo, and why are you against them now?
I got two at the same time for my first tattoo. I was like 15 or 16. I was like straight out of like juvenile prison. I was like… I think I was like two months out. I was like two months home, and I got… I got a tattoo that goes shoulder to shoulder, and then I got something on my stomach.
Okay. Yeah. And why are you against them now? And you're now removing them?
So I know what it's like to have no tattoos. I know what it's like to have some. I know what it's like to have a lot. I know what it's like to have the ones that are uncoverable. I know what it's like to have your hands and neck. I know what it's like to have your face. I know what it's like to be tattooed from the top of my head down to the bottom of my toes.
I'm sure the stigma gets annoying as [ __ ]!
Yeah. I have watched directly the result of the progress of being tattooed and the way my life is affected. Sure, only has a negative impact. Having tattoos is only a liability, and it is a zero percent asset.
In what way? Explain.
Okay, there's a lot of ways. The first is standard judgment, right?
100%.
Yeah. Now I knew before I got my face tattooed that I was going to be judged for having face tattoos, but the state of mind I was in then… I was young, right? I had like this perspective on reality that is not real today. I… I have certain… let's say certain tattoos, right? That at the time was something I was really into and I really loved. We're talking 15 years later; I don't even watch that show. Why the [ __ ] did I do that, right? I don't even like that show, you know… like if you're… if you're into Pokémon cards, let's say, and you get a Pokémon tattoo, and in 15 years from now you're like, "Pokémon? Where the [ __ ] was I thinking?"
Yeah, but you're stuck with a Pokémon tattoo forever.
Yeah. Then you get other people that are like, "No, I thought about this for two years, and you know, it's my… my grandmother who passed away." I think that's a little different scenario than getting, you know, like [ __ ], you know, "East Side" on your cheek or something like that. And again, this is nothing against you and… and an attack. I… I have… listen, I have a… a great stigma of friends that are completely tattooed, and they all have the same, you know, the same kind of stigmas that are attached to them, and it's unfortunate because ironically, some of the people that have the most tattoos are from the same scenario that come from just, you know, harsh backgrounds or made dumb mistakes when they were younger, and now, you know, they're running Fortune 500 businesses, and they're getting looked up and down like they're [ __ ] crazy because, you know, they've got skull and bones or, you know, whatever it is. And I feel like that… that, you know, early judgment is pretty contradictory of how our society looks on people and looks on things, you know, really quickly. And when they say, "Don't judge a book by its cover," it's almost impossible when you know the cover's got all these colors and stuff, and you're like, "Well, [ __ ]… let me, you know, let me find out what's behind this book."
You know, it's interesting what you just said, that Fortune 500 company… guys who run those companies have hand tattoos.
Yeah. So there's a huge stigma that people with those tattoos can't do that, and I was one of those guys.
I had worked on for a long time… you couldn't, though.
Yeah, you know. It's only… I think… I feel like it's only become normalized in the past five, ten years, if anything… even the word normalized, I don't know, is exactly accurate, because you're right. You're right. People like me… and I did work on Wall Street, and I had face tattoos. The challenges I had are maybe the closest you can relate to somebody who also wants to run a Fortune 500 company if they have hand tattoos. It's the same as a guy who never had a college education. So it's not impossible, but they have the same hurdles. But why would I want to add those hurdles to create issues, right? I don't have… I already have my own issues, right? I didn't have to add ones that people will give me more hard times about.
Sure. And especially ones that don't know you, and they're kind of just predetermining and prejudging off just the looks… it's… it's kind of shady.
Yeah. Back to the gambling. So you gamble with all these A-list celebrities. Yeah, I want to walk through a couple of them. Uh, what was it like gambling with Lil Baby?
Gamo… Baby is always cool. He's like… always just like… down with the get down, right? He's like… no hassle, no hard… he's like… Baby just wants to be one of the guys.
Yeah, he's just hanging out, and… and you wouldn't know that he's Lil Baby if… if… if you didn't know [ __ ] about social media and you had no clue about who the guy was. He… I think he goes into the category of guys that are really down to earth, like we were talking about earlier with Post and Ludacris, and you know… I… I definitely feel like when you get to a…
Certain level of fame, there is nothing more priceless than just having that privacy with your homies, or just being able to go into a grocery store and grab a [ __ ] carton of milk without somebody harassing you for a picture. Dude, I saw a post on Impractical Jokers the other day. Yeah, I'm like, how the [ __ ] do you not recognize this guy? There's some people, man, they're really like, my post is so like, well, I'm I agree with you. I also agree with the fact that there are people that just do not keep up with social media, do not listen to music, do not like, they're just in their own world, man.
Something interesting I learned about, so when I when I was in business, I was kind of anti-social media. I was completely anonymous and like all of this, I had no idea, like I told you, like I didn't know what No Jumper was, and I was friends with Adam, right? So like, there are people that like never even considered it. And then once I entered the space, like looking back, I'm like, wow, I'm still learning every day, like no matter what level of fame I might be at, whatever, I'm still learning every day, like, oh, that's who this is, that's, you know, like. See, but I feel like that's a that's a true a true like sign and testament to your friendship because, all right, I'll put it in perspective here. If I have a friend that I know owns a restaurant, I'm not a I'm not about to be going in there every [ __ ] day asking for a free meal. That's what a [ __ ] would do.
Yeah, a real friend, your real friend. Extra took the words out of my mouth. You're gonna go in, you're gonna show support, you're going to bring in other people, you're going to have other other clients and whatever, you're gonna support that [ __ ] because you know homie's got to pay bills. It's the same thing with, you know, people in the music industry or people that are doing podcasts or that have relevancy. And for you to say that you didn't even know about his podcast, that just means that you're you every time you're with him, you were kicking it with him. You weren't like, hey, what are you working on? Hey, how can I ask in a million questions about, you know, what they got going on? It was probably more or less the conversations of how are you? You good? You know, you okay? Life's good. All right, cool. Yeah, damn, that girl's got a fat ass, you know, or like, yeah, we connect over over BMX, me and Adam. And then whoever else it was, like whoever else I ran into or like befriended was just because we were like like-minded, we had the same interests.
It's the same friend group. Yeah, what was it like uh, alcohol? No, I was gonna say any time that I've ever had an encounter where it was not because we are compatible or had similar traits and it was because somebody wanted something, none of those lasted. No, there's not one of those guys or girls like in my life that came in with a motive, interior automate or anterior motives always, you know, present themselves in funny ways. And I feel like, you know, no matter how long you keep somebody around, that will always present itself in the most inopportune way. There's there's never been like a subtle classy way for somebody to ask you for something like that's just out of their means or like outside the boundaries of what's comfortable. It's always just obnoxiously gaudier at a wrong time, and you you know, hopefully that makes most people be like, you know what, that's that ain't the kind of guys I want to have around me. Yeah, it [ __ ]
What was it like gambling with uh, Logan Paul? Logan Paul's cool man, actually. You know what, that was one of my cooler experiences. It's forming the friendship I have with him. So being like an outsider to social media at the time, right when I had uh became friends with him, it was uh with also with Mike Malak and Ryan Garcia. I got a call from a another one of the guys that was hired to uh market for this for the coin, right? And he calls me and I answer and I'm like, hey, what's up? And he goes, hey, I got someone else on the line, his name is Mike. If you're calling me for it, it's probably something. You know, puts it through and he goes, hey, what's up? My name is Mike. I'm like, what's up? He goes, hey, I like to film a lot of videos and stuff, I do YouTube, and I want to come to Vegas and and I think from what I've heard that you sound like the guy in Vegas, you know, we could have a good time together, you know, I'll take care of everything. I'm gonna okay, run it. Yeah, so me and this guy named Mike that formed a friendship over the phone. Well, it turns out it was Mike Maylak, and I never asked, like, even if he told me what his last name wouldn't have [ __ ] known. I didn't know. Doesn't matter, right? Yeah, so we formed this friendship like over like a year or something on the phone, just like vibe and you know, just me knowing each other. Yeah, then he says, Hey, like I think uh we are we're all gonna come out to Vegas, can we film some gambling? And I said, sure. And I ended up winning a million dollars on camera for Logan, Mike, and Ryan, right? And the thing was that was the first time I met Logan, and he was by far the quietest guy in the room. Yeah, so when I found out like Logan Paul is coming, in my head, I'm like, oh, it's probably gonna be like maybe like a little goofy or egomaniac, he'll be loud, but you know, something I had this like image in my head. Yeah, the image he portrays online [Music] he's the quietest, most humble, like nicest guy, like he don't even want to be on camera. No, the only time he's on camera is like when he kind of have who the [ __ ] wants attention when all they get 24/7 is attention.
Yeah, well, it's like saying I'll give you Pizza unlimited, unlimited Pizza Non-Stop, and the one day off that you get, you think you're gonna go get [ __ ] Pizza? No, you're gonna go smack a McChicken or something, bro. Like, yeah, that's exactly what goes back to what we talked about when we were first sitting down. When all eyes are on you, there is nothing more priceless than having your privacy or having the ability to just hang out with the boys and be one of the guys instead of being that guy. You're just one of the guys, and it's it's a crazy trade-off because I feel like people don't really understand that the price of fame really comes with a lot of dude, a lot of baggage. It's a lot of it's difficult, and it says and again, I feel like tapping back onto the tattoo topic for you, I'd be like that just makes you instantly more recognizable. So like for issues at the casino or, you know, for running into people, it's almost unavoidable. Like, talk us through, I I want to dive into the whole Casino aspect and and I mean, if you're cool with it, I want to know, you know, tell us some of the signs that you can tell that when uh the casinos are kind of tipping the sides more towards the house.
All right, so there's a lot of ways you can tell. The first is you can just go online and pull up like a probability chart for gambling, like these are public information, and you'll get a rough idea, the realistic probability of how many hands in a row you're gonna win and how many are going to lose. And if you can, this I don't know is so readily available, but you can if you're any good with math, you can take the time and do it. You can also create the the mathematics behind what hands are likely to win for how long. Like, for example, this is crazy. If you're dealt, imagine pretend for this uh like let's say you you created like a software that that would tell you this, right? And you dealt yourself in blackjack in 18 10 hands in a row and then said dealer uh you know random hands and you'll tell you'll figure out how many times realistically they should win and how many times they should lose. And then you can say when you're playing in real time at a casino, if you're dealt 18, let's say five times in a shoe and you've lost all five, but you already know from testing the theory, oh, that's true though that you were only supposed to lose two of those um then you're in a mathematical improbability, not impossibility, but you can go further. You can deal yourself in 18, you know, as many times as you want in the software, and you can give the dealer a 16 every one of those times, and it'll tell you how many times they're gonna win, probably like 90, you'll win 18 Versa dealer 16. But then you go play real and you'll see that the Dealer's got a six two three Ace and you're like, what the [ __ ] where is this coming from every time? Where are these coming from? There's true mathematical and probabilities, some are verging on the border of impossibility.
Is there a way to tip the improbabilities in your favor? There are some tricks you can do. Okay, nothing will hold water if you cannot be aware that this is happening. If you're interesting if you don't even have the understanding of what's happening in front of your face to your money, then there's nothing you can do to protect from it or change from it because you don't even know what's happening. Damn, I didn't smoke enough weed for this one today. What's it like when you get scared? You get a letter in the mail from the casino? Do they come to you? No, no, hold on, hold on. Talk us through how you get banned and then go through the process of how that's the answer is almost the same every single time has been different because of the reason I'm getting banned. Okay, so people, what [ __ ] did they tell you? How about that? That's exactly there we go. That's exactly I want to hear the real [ __ ]. I've heard every tell me. I've heard everything. We don't we don't even have to call all the casinos out. I don't want to name names, but I'm [ __ ] suit, bro. I'm I'm this is for Pure uh educational purposes. Okay, I'm I'm genuinely fascinated by this because again, we we've talked outside and and you know from my understandings there there's always a level of, you know, a facade that the casinos have to put up and I and I get that, but I feel like the second that they know that you know that they know that you know what's going on, it's over. It's a different game, right? When you are doing something questionable or questionably unethical or immoral to the casino, you know what you're doing. If the casino catches you, they tell you to leave. If you're crowning cards, they'll either cap your limb, they'll cap your bets, you have to Flap bet, or they tell you to leave. This is like an obvious one, right? If you're cheating, you go to prison for five years, of course obvious, you know, if you're abusing comps, they'll stop comping you or just tell you they can't.
Right, exactly what happened with me was really unique because out of the four people that have ever been in my scenario, none of them happened from the method that I did it, right? So you have the standard stories like Phil and Kelly and and I forget the other guy and you know, they were pushing some boundaries and winning by creating a loophole basically, right? But their loophole was identified and explained, it was not a secret, but mine has always remained um private. You know, I've never shared the information. So they couldn't understand how you were getting away how I was getting away with it. Okay, so a lot of casinos had a lot of opinions, you know, and they have full teams, you know, that are trying to decipher what you've got going on. Yeah, and so when they couldn't, interesting, some of them said he's just lucky, keep him around because eventually the Luck's gonna run out. Other ones said we don't even care, we need to stop the hemorrhaging, get them out now. So they all independently barred me at different times, and they all give me a different reason. I'll tell you some of the reasons. The Cosmo, before MGM bought it, banned me because they said I touched the forks in the Talon Club high limit Cafe. Not a joke. Not a joke. I'm sorry, say that one more time. In the Talon Club. Yeah, the super high limit on the second floor, very familiar. There's a lounge in there where you can eat, right by the elevator, you make it right, and it tucks in the corner. My favorite my favorite in the cafe, they have like buffet style food. Yeah, and they have the forks spread out on a tray, and you take the fork and help yourself. They said I touched more Forks than I needed. They said I only needed one four. Can I touch more than one fork? This is not a joke. Uh, Park MGM was an interesting one. I was with another small group of professional poker players. We caught them cheating red-handed. I had an executive come down and I said to the executive, space I caught you cheating, here's the proof. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You got the casino cheating? I catch them a lot. So a lot of the reasons for my bands was catch exposing, bro. I've never heard of somebody, but like, no, no, I wasn't cheating, they were cheating, and then I got kicked out because they were cheating. Yeah, tell me, tell all right. I want to hear this now. Tell me how they were cheating. This was like my first big Xbox, I caught you. Yeah, I caught you moment. They had a Park MGM, they changed the felt, they changed the tables, they changed the shoe machine, they changed the shuffler, and they changed the Monitor, full new setups in the baccarat room, right in the in the Nomad portion. Sure, not that they have to inform the players that they changed anything, but I just didn't know. I was not informed. So I show up to play and I'm with some uh poker player friends and we sit down and I'm confused. There's like data, I've never seen this thing. I might have played more baccarat than almost any other baccarat player. I played probably in more locations, hands I've seen it all, right? I did not ever see in my life what was on their baccarat screen. I said to the dealer who I'm very friendly with, for the record, almost every at this time, a lot of the executives at Park, the dealers, The Pit Bosses are like personal friends of mine. I've slept with most of the females and the males have come to all my parties. We go out to dinner, like we know each other, you know. So I set a dealer who I'm friends with, I says, what is this portion of the data means? She goes, I have no idea. I sent to the dealer next door, I said, what does this mean? She goes, I don't know. I said, floor, please tell me what this means. The floor says, to be honest, they just put this in, they didn't explain it, none of us know what this means. I said, okay, I'll figure it out. I played it firsthand. I bet whatever I bet, I won. So in the poker friends, they all followed my bets. If we won the first hand, yeah, of course we won, no problem. Second hand comes, I believe I bet player and Bank came natural nine. I forget the exact cards, but imagine the cards came five four natural nine. We lost. Could we bet player? No big deal, lost a hand, right? So I go to look at the monitor to work on my next hand and it's displaying the cars of the previous hand and it says Bank One natural nine, but the cards displayed are seven Deuce, but the cards on the felt are five four, right? I said, hold on. I said, how is this machine going to know bank one with a natural nine? Unsure how it won and then make up whatever data it wants just to tell them right to tell the right story. I said, hold on. I said, you guys are cheating. I said, if you're gonna make up that data, that means you're making up all of the data and will continue to make up all the data and you'll misguide me on every bet I'm gonna make, assuming my bets are judged on the data on the screen. I said, they said we don't know what to tell you. I said, don't touch anything at all, leave the cards, call an executive. The executive came down, one that also I used to be very personally close with. I said, I caught you guys cheated, and they said, oh, yeah. And I said, yeah. They said, how? I said, look and look, and they go, you have 30 minutes for you and all your friends to pack your bags and get out [ __ ] out of here. A friend of mine and I said, okay, I'm gonna figure this thing out. So we pack our bags and we leave. I posted on Instagram that this had happened and I explained it. I tagged the casino like I always do, right? What's up, you know, you did it, you know what you did. I saw them, the casino's Instagram account watch my story tagging them calling them out for cheating. So I screenshot it, you know, you can see your viewers. I screenshot it, I circled it, I posted that I tagged him again and I said, I see you seeing me, see you. I got a call like something like that day or the next day and said, hey uh you're banned for six months. I said, why? They said, where you scared the dealers? They said uh you were threatening video, they said you were threatening the dealers and you're yelling and you're throwing and you're screaming and everybody's scared. I said, I don't think being belligerent, I don't think so because I slept with that dealer last night, she didn't seem too scared, you know? And they go, no, no, it's an issue, you're banned for six months. Well, that six months, it's been almost three years now. Wow. And every time the six-month Mark comes, I say, what's good? They go, oh, this is a crazy story. They go, you went to valet so you can go to the stadium and you fought with the valet driver. I said, are you sure? Because I'm in California right now. They go, yeah, we're sure. I said, okay, I'm gonna come to Vegas tonight, we'll figure this out. I get to Vegas, I went up to the head of La, I said, hey, there's a story that I fought with you earlier today about parking here for the stadium and I filmed it. I said, do you mind saying to the camera like tell me what happened? He goes, I didn't see you today, that never happened. I don't know why they're saying that. So they're staging these incidents to keep to keep justifying Banning me. That's nuts. Yeah, I had um let's see who else I had uh Caesars banned me because they the first time they banned me I made a comment that I was being judged for my tattoos, so they thought that they were going to follow that they were gonna have a lawsuit, so they said we're scared of a lawsuit, we don't want you on property till we figure it out, but it was all made up, like it was garbage. They can just say whatever they do, say whatever they can because they're they're their own governing, you know what I'm saying? None of them want to face like reality. I'll tell you, let me go through it, ready? So so Cosmo for touching too many Forks, Park for catching them cheating and posting about it, um MGM for no reason uh I think they said I made a mess in the Villa or something like that, but the real story was the president of MGM International, his name is Justin Maniker, and his right-hand man is Angelo, and Angelo got sent down. I deposited nine and a half million dollars at MGM Grand, and I got tipped off that he was going to come and threaten me and try to strong arm me, and I got tipped off from somebody song on me for what? So this is what happened, so I get this phone call, I just sent nine and a half million dollars to MGM Grand, I get a phone call, hey, they're gonna come and they're gonna threaten you, they're gonna try to uh extort you and and they're gonna try to keep the nine and a half million. Well, I happen to be with like a lot of other celebrities, we're all like enjoying the day, so there's a lot of videos happening, people are videoing, you know
Everybody's influencers in the famous Day video. So I said to one of the cameramen, I said, "I just got tipped off when and where I'm about to get threatened." Once you set up a camera and mic me up, and I went to this meeting mic'd up, and this guy was threatening me. And he said all types of crazy stuff, and I posted some of that video. I did have to blur his face and his name; I, you know, obviously I had to follow the law, but I followed the law and I made a post, and it's on my page, and you can look and see it. And they did all types of crazy things, and um, they banned me following that video.
Did you get your money out? I got so they tried to keep a million dollars. I had to get my lawyer involved, and they ended up paying me the right amount, but they did try to keep a million dollars. Yeah, but I did get paid. I will say that, did get paid. Um, Resorts World banned me uh, because I I was uh, it was like me, Rodway, for uh, and some other industry people, we threw like a poker game in one of the Villas. And then afterwards we went to go play Blackjack. Playing Blackjack, I caught them cheating, and we were recording, and I caught them on camera cheating. I also then filmed—I've been saying this from the beginning—that these casinos jam my Wi-Fi. And again, like similar to like the crypto, what have you, like people were very skeptical, right? And I was like, "It's okay, like I I know what's good," you know, and I had filmed that same day, like that same trip, uh, Resorts World jamming my Wi-Fi. I filmed it, and I made a few posts of all these videos, them jamming, them cheating us on the table, all this, and it got like 15 million views like in 24 hours. And that night, uh, four had gotten barred from Resorts World. And that morning, uh, security came and said I had to go, and nobody ever gave me a reason. They just said, "If you ever come back, you're leaving in handcuffs." But I mean, it's obvious what the reason was, you know, I caught them on camera cheating and I posted the video. It was crazy.
Yeah, I mean, all of these casinos, damn. The only the only casino that ever told me the truth to my face was the Wynn. The Wynn told me outright that said, "You're too good, and we can't have you here." And I was with like, I don't know, 30 or something people, a lot of pro poker players. That was like a really epic moment. It was actually worth celebrating that one. Shout out the Wynn for being real. Yeah, for keeping it real. Shout out to the Wynn, and I've never disrespected the Wynn. I've never thrown shade at the Wynn. I've never done even 100. You get 100. That's it. All these other casinos, all they had to do is be nice to—they just had to be nice—and I would let them live in peace. I'm not even kidding. The day they came to me and said, "Hey Mick, I'm sorry you're winning too much here. This is just not good business for us. We want you to leave," I would have shook their hand and said, "No problem." Yeah, you know, wow, that's crazy. They pull all these shiesty moves, so we gotta make—tell them—tell them where they can find you. How can they follow up because I I want to go watch these [ __ ] videos. So tell them what's up. My Instagram, my TikTok, and YouTube is all the same. It's at dirty goth boy, and boy spelled boy. So just at dirty goth boy. All right, Sean, tell them where they can find you. Sean, Mike Kelly, and I'm Ari Gold. We'll see y'all next week. [Music] Thank you.