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Israel is essential to the security of Jews worldwide. America has never flinched from its commitment to the state of Israel. America and Israel have a special friendship.
I got to be careful the way I say this. They're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people from there. Okay. There are some serious questions here. Patrick, what's your reaction to seeing those photos? Horrific. Uh last week they even went to a point further than starvation called famine. Worst food hunger you can get into. Wow. Highest number of child empties worldwide. I mean it's just sickening that we're doing this to kids. What what crime did they commit? We gave Netanyahu a blank check.
Would it be your impression that many of our politicians are under Israeli influence? That's such a mild way to put it. Mainstream media is been taken over by uh extremist groups. Most of what you see is either AI or footage used from from Syria.
The IDF commanders we spoke to said they are the most ethical army in the world. They're the most precise. That's complete. I do know that Hamas would have their weapons depots under hospitals. There's a reason that Hamas operates out of schools and hospitals.
With Israel being questioned now more than ever, I went to Washington DC to investigate the claim of whether Israel is our greatest ally and looked in particular into the influence of Apac, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on our elected officials. And we also examined the war in Gaza, asking whether Israel truly lives up to its claim as the world's most ethical army or whether we are witnessing serious human rights violations funded in part by our US tax dollars. To look into this, I spoke with US senators like Ron Johnson and Ran Paul, with IDF soldiers, a Jewish woman turned anti-Zionist, and one of the greatest conspiracy researchers of our era, Ian Carroll. I asked the questions that are scary to ask, and I do so as a proud American. Let's get to it.
So, this is one of the scariest pieces that we ever worked on, and it's crazy as a journalist that you have to be afraid to ask questions or investigate the truth. So, let's just start off with some ballpark statements. I am not anti-Semitic. I hope all Israelis and Jewish people around the world are happy, healthy, and thriving, as I do for other people as well. It's possible that I'm going to be called anti-Semitic from doing this video, and that's not true. I don't hate anybody. There's not one person in this world I hate and you can't tell me I do. What is the point of having a platform if you're not going to do something that's absolutely necessary, which I believe this is. So, what we're going to do is use very American principles, which is questioning the narrative, questioning our government, and questioning foreign governments. We're allowed to do that. People have died for that right, and people will continue to die to fight for that right. So, this is to freedom of speech. This is to investigation. Now, folks, let's jump into the video.
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You got arrested right around here. Well, inside in the uh in the foreign in the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee chambers.
You're a lieutenant colonel? Yeah.
Ex Green Beret? Yep. Serve this country? 25 years.
What was that like getting arrested? It felt um it felt right.
This is Anthony Aglar. He served as a US special forces soldier for over 20 years. And after the horrific things he witnessed as a mercenary manning the aid stations in Gaza, he has decided to come forth as a whistleblower sounding the alarm for what he says are massive human rights violations. Here's what he had to say.
There are some members of our Congress in the Senate and the House that are compromised by a foreign government. I don't know what the compromise is. Whether it's, you know, pictures of them doing something embarrassing, if it's money, if it's promise of a of a of a few like, "Hey, we back you for this next position." I don't know what it is.
Folks, the Israel-Palestine conflict stretches back generations. But for today's episode, we will be focusing on the past 2 years. Let's rewind back to October 7th, 2023, when Hamas executed what's widely regarded as the worst terrorist attack in Israeli history. A coordinated operation used rocket barges, motorized armed paragliders, and foot soldiers that swept through Israel, killing approximately 1,200 Israelis, and taking around 250 hostages. Similar to how Americans responded to 9/11, Israel reacted to the horrific carnage by mounting a full-scale military operation with their main objectives being to rescue Israeli hostages, eliminate Hamas military and leadership, and prevent Hamas from ever again being able to threaten Israel.
As of late, some people have begun questioning the Israeli official narrative of October 7th. Was there a standdown order? According to IDF testimony from the Knesset, the legislative body of Israel, IDF soldiers claimed they were told to stand down from patrol on the morning of the attack. Adding fuel to the controversy, Netanyahu's right-wing coalition voted against having a state-run inquiry into October 7th, despite polls reporting that roughly 70% of Israelis wanted one. That has helped spark conspiracy theories suggesting Israeli intelligence may have had prior knowledge of the attack. After all, Mossad is widely regarded as the best intelligence agency on the planet, and the level of surveillance they had over Gaza is incredible.
Are there IDF soldiers that are purposely targeting civilians and just kind of willy-nilly shooting people? So, willy-nilly shooting? Yes. The IDF utilize machine gun fire, shooting machine guns, shooting bullets at people to control the crowd. An Israeli newspaper report saying that soldiers were ordered to shoot at unarmed civilians waiting for food aid in Gaza. I experienced that with this with a young boy named Amir in distribution site number three. And this young boy without shoes who had walked 10 to 12 km and when he came up and he got meager scraps from the ground, not a box of food, not a meal, he came and thanked us. He and others were killed.
The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation has come forward with a press release last week where they showed, "Oh, this young boy that Mr. Agular said he saw on this date, we scoured the earth and we found him and here he is." The boy that they featured in that is not the boy that I saw on the 28th of May.
So, it's propaganda. It is propaganda. They are lying.
Now, GHF, the organization running the aid station that Anthony worked with, came out with a statement refuting Anthony's testimony by poking holes in at least one aspect of his story. They say the kid that Anthony claimed had died, a little 8-year-old boy named Abdul, is actually alive and well, and they have video proof of it, and therefore, we should believe none of Anthony's testimony. However, let's also share Anthony's side of the story. He would make the case that unfortunately the lead reporter investigating whether the kid was actually alive or not, Muhammad Salama, was killed in an airstrike by the IDF when the Nasser hospital was bombed live on camera multiple times. This horrific bombing of one of the last functioning hospitals in Gaza showed aid workers and journalists being killed. When asked about this, both our politicians and IDF soldier contacts maintain that the aid workers and journalists were Hamas. Here is the footage of the men who died in the airstrikes. Tell me in the comments if you think they are Hamas.
So, my name is Doron Kadhal. I'm a sergeant-major in the Israeli Defense Forces today in reserves.
This is Doron Kedar. He is an IDF veteran of 20 years and he is currently serving as a special forces reservist. He is the host of the Doron Kedar podcast and a strong voice advocating for the Israeli perspective.
Mainstream media is been taken over by uh extremist groups from the far left, wokeism, Islam, Islamist groups, socialist groups, Marxist groups.
In my experience speaking with IDF soldiers and pro-Israeli politicians, there seems to be a common playbook when it comes to tackling any criticisms of Israel. In my conversations with these guys, I've been called an anti-Semite, a Jew hater, told I've been thinking like a Nazi, and even accused of bearing responsibility for the horrible attack recently in Manchester simply for asking questions that I think most of us have. But folks, I am a lover of all people, Israelis included, and these smears will not stop me from questioning what I see.
Most of what you see is either AI or footage used from from Syria and or Iraq and or other countries.
What do you think the true number of dead civilians is? That is probably looking more at maybe 20%, maybe 30%.
By war standards, it's still pretty pretty darn high, right? No, the opposite. What they will tell you is that Israel's ratio for civilian to combatant is actually much lower than the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. Basically, our ratio has been one combatant to maybe two civilians.
The case Doron is making here is that the numbers out there that were allegedly leaked within Israel are actually false and the civilian casualty rates are not so horrible and that these numbers are fabricated by woke/Hamas influenced media. So, we sat down with Dr. Aziz Rahman, a man in Milwaukee that actually volunteered at Nasser Hospital in Gaza for 2 weeks and we hear what he saw boots on the ground.
Dr. Aziz Rahman, I practice here in Wisconsin. Yeah, I was in uh June uh 2025. I was in Gaza at National Hospital which is in Khan Yunis which is in the south of Gaza. I probably saw thousands of patients. I probably treated hundreds of patients. I actually did surgeries myself on maybe 50 to 75 patients.
The IDF commanders we spoke to said they are the most ethical army in the world. They're the most precise that the minimal amount of civilian casualties are being expended with them. What would you say to that? That's complete.
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This is Brennan from the organization Open Secrets. His group is a nonpartisan watchdog that tracks the money flowing through politics and he helps me break down the numbers connected to Apac. What is Apac and how do they function? They make contributions to candidates. Traditional PACs make, they are able to make contributions directly to candidates. They collect money from their um, you know, members or other people who are interested in their cause and support their policies and then they deliver it to the candidates.
There are members of our Congress that are compromised. That is a fact. Those that are compromised because they get the backing of Apac and they get the backing of Israel, their voices are amplified. You can't fight against that propaganda machine. It's huge.
So, there's this Israeli commando I've been talking to and I've talked on the phone with before and he was going to consider doing an interview and then he said it's pointless. Everyone just turning into an empire of Nazis pushed by Nick Fuentes, Kanye West, Candace Owens, and more. The first problem is that this every American wants to talk about and I even I even say this to people. It's always, oh, you're taking my tax money. You're taking. Shut the up, dude. You don't know where your tax money is. You wouldn't even know where your tax money is. What where you don't even read any of the bills. You sign all the bills and then you want to pay more tax for gas. You want to do all this but then when something big happens in the world, that's where my tax money is going. Shut the up. Nobody knows where their tax money is going.
Ian Carroll is one of the internet's top conspiracy analysts. His critics label him an anti-Semite spreading false information about Israel, but to others, he is a fearless journalist that speaks on what some perceive as an extremely strong Zionist pressure on our government. Here's what he had to say.
There are 100 US senators. Last year, 93 out of 100 US senators were people whose campaigns had been funded by Israel, Apac, and the Israel lobby. 93 out of 100 US senators were taking money from a group that represents a foreign government and foreign interests in order to operate our government on behalf of someone else. And they all work here in this building.
This is Representative Ro Khanna from California. And he does not take Apac money according to their website Track Apac. Here's what he had to say.
It's too much. I mean, it's too much. All these super PACs, Apacs are too much. I don't take a dime of Apac money, lobbyist money, uh, since I've been in Congress, and I don't believe in super PACs. And so, uh, I can vote my conscience, but if you have people who have a particular point of view, in Apac's case, they're basically whatever Netanyahu does is right. That's their point of view. And they're saying, "Okay, if you don't take that view, we may come after you. We may have millions of dollars spent against you."
Now, ask any American content creator what the scariest subject to cover is, and the answer is Israel. Even YouTubers I know who support Israel, say their channels were shadowbanned for months after covering them. And folks, the plot around free speech thickens. News just broke that Larry Ellison, co-founder of Oracle, will be buying TikTok, a platform where young people can freely exchange unfiltered ideas. No Israel connection here, right? Wrong. Ellison is one of the IDF's largest private donors, giving the Army tens of millions of dollars through Friends of the IDF, a nonprofit that brands itself as a non-political, non-military organization, but somehow also is the official US partner of Israel soldiers. Hm.
Is it hard to trace who's getting money from Apac and how much? Um, it's pretty straightforward. You can tell, you know, any if their PAC makes a contribution to a candidate, candidate must report that, um, and must report where it came from.
Can we see some of the numbers like how to what level Apac is funding our politicians? Apac would fall under a uh what we call ideology single issue. So these are, you know, groups that are focused in on particular issues.
So this is the top contributors for '23, 2023-2024. Yes. So, it's fair to say that actually the left was much more heavily funded across the board and that if you break it down further to Apac, it was about, where is that? 25 million to the Democrats and about 17 million to the Republicans.
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And you might have been wondering, who are all these senators that are taking money from the Israel lobby? Well, if you wanted a list of all-timers, our boy Joe Biden would be at the very top with 4.2 million during his career. But you'd also find Hillary Clinton, 2.3 million. You'd find Kamala Harris, 2.3 million. You might think, "Oh, Trump's not on there." No, that's just because he was never a senator. So, you'd have to go to a different web page to find that number. So, would someone like Miriam Adelson be on a list like this? Yes. I'm curious what her figures are because I've seen that uh it reported allegedly that between 100 million and 200 million plus to Trump from the Adelson family. She was in 2024, um, she was the number three uh donor, um, you know, behind Musk and Mellon. You know, Miriam and Sheldon would come into the White House probably almost more than anybody. The Adelsons are some of the wealthiest Jewish billionaires in the world. Now it is the Adelson, just Miriam. Her husband Sheldon died. They have a long, long wealthy relationship with Donald Trump. A very long and wealthy relationship with Benjamin Netanyahu as well as with anyone and everyone else that is associated with the Zionist project and Jewish causes.
This is Representative Nancy Mace of South Carolina. And according to Track Apac, she's taken about $130,000 from Apac-linked groups. Here's what she had to say.
No. Compared to your colleagues, you're minimal. Am I low? Yes. Which is good.
Do you think Americans have a right to fear that Apac is too powerful and that we're, I mean, some people would say that it feels like we're almost controlled by Israel. No. No, we're not. And I don't. You can't buy votes, okay? When you're up here legislating, yes, we have to run for reelection. Yes, we have to raise money to do that. I've never gotten pressured by Apac. I never I've never said, "Hey, you have to do this." And I've never.
So, there's not some insidious meeting in a parking garage? No. Where a guy with a a PAC has come? Would definitely not accept money from anyone threatening me. And that's just not a thing.
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Mr. Johnson. Tom. Hey. Nice to meet you. Good to meet you. Thanks for seeing us. Certainly. Certainly. Rep. Hank Johnson is my handle, by the way. Rep. Hank Johnson. First guy to do the good plug, so check him out, guys. Yeah, check it out.
This is Representative Hank Johnson from Georgia, and he does not take Apac money. According to the website Track Apac, here's what he had to say.
The Apac PAC is powerful. The money that they put into elections, um, can be influential. And so, um, politicians do pay attention to that.
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Hey there. Hello. How are you? Come on in. Good. How you doing? Good. Nice to meet you, Tommy. Tommy, nice to meet you. Meira. Meira Benjamin is a Jewish woman who has been to Israel and once considered herself proud of Israel until her conscience forced her to stand against it. She's the leader of activist group Code Pink and she's made it her mission to call out US politicians for taking Apac money and enabling the destruction in Gaza. Here's what she had to say.
Would it be your impression that many of our politicians are under Israeli influence? That's such a mild way to put it. I mean, they are bought off by Apac and not and that's not even the most important part. The most important part is they're scared to death of Apac. They're afraid that if they become the. Well, look at what they did to uh Cori Bush. Look at what they did to Jamal Bowman. And you can go back, look what they did to Jewish Congressman uh Andy Levin just because he said some mild things uh about Netanyahu. And so these members of Congress don't want to be in the crosshairs.
We've heard a few times now politicians mentioned Cory Bush and Jamal Bowman seemingly getting pushed out of office by Apac. Here's what Cory and Jamal had to say on the matter.
I got a message from someone in the community. Apac said to tell you that they know you're not going to change your stance. They just want you to be silent.
They are very strategic and very unapologetic. Now, let's break this down by highlighting Jamal's story. During his 2020 term, he was critical of Israel, calling what they were doing in Gaza a genocide and being one of the first politicians to demand a ceasefire. So, when he ran for reelection in 2024, Apac-related PACs spent a record-setting $14 million to fund a challenger to unseat him. For comparison, his 2020 opponent spent under $2 million, meaning that Apac poured more than eight times that amount to defeat him in 2024. It was the same story with Cori Bush when she also called the war in Gaza a genocide. An Apac ally spent $8 million against her and she lost. So, it seems Apac has real power to force out politicians they don't like. And when it appears to be lose your job or listen to Apac, allegedly, it's easy to see why politicians fall in line. And so they either put their head down or they're more even brazen to say, "Yes, I'll go with Apac on a trip to Israel this uh recess instead of being with my constituents."
Recently in the news, I've been bombarded by stories of US politicians visiting Israel. I've even heard New York mayoral candidates tripping over themselves to say how often they visit or want to visit Israel. I would visit the Holy Land. I would go to Israel. Yeah, I'd make my fourth trip to Israel.
B seemed a bit odd and it made me wonder, are US politicians visiting Israel an unusual amount? So, we looked at the numbers. A 2024 study by the University of Maryland found that over 25% of all congressional trips were to Israel. And from 2011 to 2016, congressional members took 1,400 trips to Israel, which for comparison in the same time period, there were 88 to the UK and 154 trips to Japan, which are other countries that we also consider to be our greatest allies. And for Americans in the last couple weeks questioning whether their politicians are controlled by Israel, the news of a 250-person delegation to Israel could not have been worse timing. So does this mean that Apac simply outplays every other lobby in Washington DC and should be celebrated for being effective? Or are we looking at something far more dangerous, which would be a foreign influence shaping American policy from the inside? Is it that bad? Yes. And it's bigger than Apac. Um, a lot of times there, there's a couple of arguments that get thrown around here to the uninformed. And one is that Israel is not even the biggest lobby. There's all these other nations that are bigger foreign lobbyists, lobbies than Israel. And it's because Israel is not a foreign lobby because they're not registered. Every other nation has to register their foreign lobby as a foreign lobbying group. And that's how it should be, cuz that way we have much higher standards for disclosure of where the money's coming from. If you're a registered foreign agent, and you can actually look into the history of when Apac decided not to register. And it was right when John F. Kennedy got shot in the head. And you can actually go and read the original letters themselves of Kennedy's administration messaging. At the time it was called the World Zionist Congress. And they were saying, "You got to register. You're a foreign agent. Here's it." And they send the paperwork. And they sent the paperwork over the month before JFK got shot.
Why is it not registered as a foreign entity? The rules have been made easier for uh countries like that that we consider to be allies. There are also a lot of people that are dual citizenship. So people think of Israel in a different way. There are a lot of American citizens who are also Israeli citizens.
Well, they're American citizens. So I mean if you're an American citizen and you're articulating a point of view, that's your right. So I'm not of the view that these people are not American citizens. They're doing everything legally. They're American citizens. They're lobbying for their interest. They're lobbying for the Netanyahu government's interest because they think that's what it benefits America. And they're paying millions of dollars, which under Citizens United is legal. The problem is why do we have a political system that has that being legal? And why don't we have more people with the courage to say, "I don't care," because if the people are on my side, it's not going to matter.
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Can you guess where this is? It looks like the Middle East, but no. Gaza. Gaza. Wow. Pretty bombed to oblivion. Yeah, it's very sad.
What's your reaction to seeing those photos? Horrific. We were complicit. We gave Netanyahu a blank check. Look, the Hamas terrorist attack was awful. And I said that people who committed those crimes had to be brought to justice and the hostages had to be released. But that happened months in. Netanyahu has been bombing for 2 years. Over 60,000 people killed. Reports out there estimate that anywhere between 70 to 95% of all housing stock in Gaza is damaged or destroyed.
Listen to this take from Norman Finkelstein, a Jewish scholar whose mother and father both endured the horrors of the Holocaust.
95% of Gaza's housing is gone. It was estimated that it would take until the year 2050 to just clear out the rubble.
I talked to an IDF commando and if you look at the IDF position on the war, they are the most precise army in the world and they are very fair in how they strike. In researching the story, I spoke with US Navy SEALs, a Canadian soldier and others who have served overseas. Many of them supported the IDF's claim that Israel is actually taking extra precautions to limit civilian deaths by risking their own men's lives to go door-to-door to warn Palestinians before bombing their homes. By contrast, in wars like Iraq in 2004, my sources say that civilian homes were often hit without warning. And it's worth noting that in the Battle of Fallujah, for example, the deadliest battle in the Iraq War, there was also an estimated 80% civilian casualty rate. And one theory I'm entertaining is that the casualty numbers we are seeing in Gaza aren't unprecedented, but rather is actually typical of urban warfare in densely populated areas. As several IDF soldiers have pointed out to me, the difference today is visibility. That this is the first major urban conflict where smartphone footage is uploaded daily. And if Iraq, Afghanistan, or Vietnam had been broadcast this way, I think the public outrage would have been just as strong. So to me, this suggests that the backlash on Israel isn't necessarily an anti-Semitic double standard, but rather, unfortunately for them, that this is the first time that the world is witnessing the brutality of war in real time on their phones.
First of all, they use 2,000lb bombs. You can't be precise when you're using 2,000lb bombs. Gaza is densely packed. This is a just bombing of a city.
Even in this first picture, what I would call the good days where there's still buildings standing.
Let's just start with one of the reports that's come out in the last few months with 83% civilian casualty rates. What would you say? Are those numbers accurate? They're not accurate. And I'll tell you why. The United Nations gets their numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry. Who runs the Gaza Health Ministry? Hamas.
If I was an infantry company commander and I had four infantry platoons, I was moving into an area to conduct a combat operation where I knew there was enemy and at the end of it I killed the enemy, but 83% of the population was dead. I would be tried and sent to Leavenworth for war crimes.
If you're branding yourself as the most precise army in the world, I think those numbers say another story.
It's awful, but we need peace in Gaza. And I don't know how you get peace in Gaza without taking out Hamas.
The food they're eating is not nutritious food. It's it's aid food. Some of the food has fungus in it and has worms in it. Now they're airdropping these, um, food food pallets which three airships equals one truck. It's all show. Sometimes the pallets actually drop on people's tents and kill them. So the Gazans have to go through a place where no human can go. Okay. Where the Israelis have, you know, top-notch surveillance, tanks, drones, uh, soldiers and APCs with machine guns. They have to walk through these quarters that kind of cordon them off like cattle to a point. Now you have American mercenaries with machine guns and grenades and tear gas and whatnot watching them. For every, like, for example, 10,000 people, there's only 1,000 pallets of food. So there's this fight to see who can get the food first. And then they have to get corralled through this exit, which is like just like cattle, right? Exit on the way back out. And on the way back out, the Israelis and the Americans shoot over their heads. Over their heads to corral them out quicker, quicker.
Americans are shooting too. Yeah.
The Hamas has taken them. And we know that for 50 to 60% of every dime that's gone to humanitarian aid in Gaza has gotten into the hands of Hamas.
So yeah, uh, starvation is absolutely real. Uh, last week they even went to a point further than starvation called famine. Worst food hunger you can get into. Uh, we saw two babies in the NICU. Zana bin Hassan. Yeah, they they were at the end stage of their life. We were requesting baby formula to be brought in and we actually told the doctors who were coming in next to bring in baby formula and it got confiscated at the Israeli borders. I myself, just being there for 2 weeks, I lost 12 lbs. Who says we're going to starve the people so much that they suffer that we're going to force the surrender? It's sick. And your tax dollars, my tax dollars are funding them because both Biden and Trump gave Netanyahu a blank check. Israel could not, uh, could not give them humanitarian aid. Israel could choose not to provide humanitarian aid to the Gazans. Did you know that in that the United States did not provide humanitarian aid in Afghanistan or Iraq?
How many kids did you come across with bullet holes or bomb, uh, residue? Yeah. So again, I don't know the exact number. For every 100 patients, I would say 10 to 15 were, um, kids. 10 to 15 were women. Um, and then you have 10 to 15 elderly/handicapped. And then the rest men, almost in the very young men, just just past 18 years old, who who are just the strongest person in their family and they were tasked to go get the food, the aid at these GHF sites, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, and they're supposed to walk kilometers in the heat with their sandals or they're barefoot, uh, and and they're the ones who are supposed to go get it and they're shot.
Take another look at the writing in blue. Wow. Highest number of child amputees worldwide. I mean, it's just sickening that we're doing this to kids. What, what crime did they commit? These are crimes and uh, there needs to be accountability.
One thing that really stood out to me was the Nasser Hospital, which according to many reports is one of the last functioning hospitals in Gaza. And there was a doctor from my hometown that served there as an American. And after he got back, shortly after, it got bombed twice. Double-tapped. Some people say triple-tapped, uh, on live TV. They killed the rescuers, um, and bombed them. The very stairs that I, I walk, the very people I work with, the medical students, journalists, it's a war crime on TV, but kind of the news cycle's over and we're past that.
It's not a war crime because the, the aid workers that were posing as aid workers that were Hamas, we had journalists that are Hamas, but they're posing as journalists. And when Israel finally took them out, knowingly that the optics is not going to look good, but we can't keep letting them use the disguise in order to continue the warfare against Israel. And then what happens is then you get that reporting on most of the mainstream media that will jump on the story without looking deeply into the facts on the ground and discovering, oh, that guy was a Hamas person.
IDF soldiers often call themselves part of the most ethical army in the world. But would the most ethical army be linked to killing over 240 journalists? According to the UN Human Rights Office, 242 journalists have been killed in Gaza, making this the deadliest war for journalists to cover in history. The most common defense I hear from IDF soldiers is the journalists were Hamas.
I, I, I, I do know that Hamas would have their weapons depots under hospitals. They put citizens at risk. Okay, let me ask you about this. So, so no. Listen, no. Let's, let's just establish some reality. Okay. I don't want to get steamrolled again. Let's, let's listen. If you were, if you were in a restaurant with your entire. I'm not steamrolling you. A little bit. If you were in a restaurant with your entire family and there was one terrorist in there, would it be acceptable for anyone to bomb that restaurant to kill the terrorist if they also killed your innocent family? Is that ever an acceptable answer? War is hell, which is why you want to avoid it. Okay. The only way you end war is you have to defeat the enemy. To say that they're using civilian grounds, I think is, um, is an excuse to invade these areas, to bomb these areas, to level these areas, to get rid of the buildings, to eventually have their plan of of occupation and settlement and eradication of the Palestinian people.
Do you think Benjamin Netanyahu is guilty of war crimes? I think that there's definitely been war crimes committed in in uh in uh Gaza and that he's the prime minister. But again, the legal determinations the International Court of Justice is going to do and there should be a court and there should be a process.
Every other home in Gaza has like stuff like this. This was gift-wrapped in a house in Gaza. We found like hundreds of these. And this is like Hamas terror, right? T-shirt. Okay. This is like what the kids wear for their summer camps in Gaza, right? And this is recruiting. Yeah. They're. So their their summer camp is recruiting for terrorism. Every home had an affiliation for one of the terrorist groups. Who's the masterminds behind all these groups? This right here, the Muslim Brotherhood.
It's easy to label Hamas as terrorists. And they've undoubtedly committed terroristic acts. But let's ask ourselves honestly, what makes a man grow up to hate another country? Because I don't think the Taliban despised Americans simply because we had freedom, but rather because we bombed and occupied their homeland for decades. After all, a freedom fighter only exists when someone feels they have no freedom. And when you look at the reality that Palestinians have faced for several decades, blockades, military checkpoints, homes demolished or taken by Israeli settlers, electricity and water being cut off, and entire generations growing up under occupation. Is it really surprising that resistance movements would form? And furthermore, one could argue Israel indirectly propped up Hamas to encourage division in the country and prevent the more reasonable and democratic PLO from uniting the Palestinians. Now, this does not in any way excuse the innocent Israelis dying in the horrific October 7th attacks. But as an American who regrets what my country did in the Middle East since 2001, I do think this context is important to consider.
You got to spend some time with IDF soldiers. I did. Did you feel they conducted themselves professionally or did you feel like they had a callous attitude towards killing? I felt they had a very, um, I would call it an inhumane approach to to killing. When I first got into Gaza on the 24th of May, I was at site number one and an IDF infantry squad was moving past the area. He was like, "Hey." And he spoke in a Boston accent. I was like, "Oh, you're Israeli?" He was like, "Oh, I'm from Boston. I'm here serving in the IDF." An American serving in the IDF. And I, he was like, "Oh, you're part of the uh, the new American uh food thing." And I'm like, I was like, "Yeah, yeah." And he's like, "Why are you feeding our enemies?" I was like, "Well, I, I think we're here to prevent Hamas from getting the food." He's like, "Everybody here is our enemy."
What Anthony is pointing out is a little unsettling. There are Americans, not dual citizens, who go to Israel to serve in the IDF. I've personally spoken with three of them, and folks, to be precise, these guys are not acting as paid mercenaries. They are enlisting as soldiers in the IDF. Now, I can understand a Jewish American having a profound emotional tie to Israel, a nation central to their heritage, faith, and identity. But let's flip the perspective. Imagine Americans taking leave from their jobs in Boston or California, traveling to China to become Chinese soldiers and fight under the Chinese flag for a few weeks, then returning home to resume their American lives. Would that strike you as odd? To me, it raises serious questions. Like, if these Americans are willing to fight for Israel, but not in the United States military, where does their loyalty truly lie?
Because all people are saying we're committing genocide, right? Fact check. Look at the population growth in Gaza since 2023, October 7th, and you'll actually see that the percentile of the population growth has grown.
That sound is almost unbelievable to hear given the numbers that are coming out of the conflict that it's not people dying there. It's actually the population is growing and flourishing while 1.9 million people are displaced. There's near famine and starvation conditions. That's where it feels like we're getting propaganda. That that's that's impossible.
That's right. You're getting propaganda. So, these are facts I'm giving you, right? It doesn't mean people aren't dying. In fact, now they're creating these humanitarian cities, corridors, which are basically concentration camps, and they want to eventually get everyone from the north of Gaza down south to Rafah into these camps where they can come in, but they cannot leave unless they voluntarily immigrate to a different country.
And by the way, a refugee camp was just recently bombed as well. Yeah. When you look at that in terms of okay, what is a concentration camp? Well, when you when you take a population away from where they live and you take the population away from away from where they live in the whole country and you concentrate the entire population into one area onto one camp, that is a concentration camp.
How much are you risking right now by coming out and speaking that about this? Everything. My reputation, my health, my safety, my future, everything that I worked for for 25 years in uniform to the reputation that I build in terms of being a patriot.
Why do you think the world is allowing this to happen? Complacency.
I'm not saying Israel hasn't made any mistakes. Okay? Because that's the other thing that people don't understand. More journalists have died covering Israel, covering this war than in any modern conflict.
Has your feed been flooded by videos, a girl carrying a bucket, bomb, hospital bomb, aid station, hit by an IDF truck, all those kind of things. When we ask people on the Israeli IDF side, they say that's Polywood, that's fake. Well, they're just wrong. I mean, I'm not going to defend every single video because then they're gonna put up one video that actually was fake. It's Polywood. It's a very, it's a funny, funny concept and it's very creative, but I was there for 2 weeks and hundreds of other physicians, surgeons, pediatricians, nurses, healthcare workers, aid workers from the West, from America, from the UK, from Australia, from Germany were there. And to say we are all liars and it's all Polywood and we are part of that Polywood is just obscene.
All of the IDF soldiers I spoke to brought up the claim of what they called Gaza wood or Polywood. Or in other words, there being a lot of fake, staged, or AI videos used to turn people against Israel. Here are some of those clips. And after seeing some of these videos, I do agree something feels staged or off. However, most would argue as with any war, propaganda is used by both sides. And this still does not negate the hundreds of real and horrible videos we've all seen circulating our feeds where refugee camps and children are getting blown up. Entire cities appear to be bombed out and the countless other examples of humanitarian carnage.
Iran-backed terrorists have been holding civilians hostage for 706 days. So this is really the crux of the conflict right now according to the official US-Israel narrative is until everyone here is released, we will not stop. Which I think is fair. If my people are somewhere else and they're being tortured or whatever it is, uh, you want them back. There's no question about it. I mean, these people were innocent. They were at mostly a music festival. The part of this conversation that gets left out so often is that on day one, Hamas offered to free all the hostages. The only request was that Israel does not enter Gaza. These people matter. If you are on the Palestinian side of this conflict and you can't say that these people matter, you have lost your touch. You've lost the narrative as well.
I saw reports that there was testimony given by IDF soldiers. They were instructed to stand down between 5:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m. on October 7th. Is there any truth to that? No. There were some troops that were asked to stand down. My unit, for example, was asked to stand down and not to participate in uh rushing to the scene. And there's tactical reasons for that. The concern was that we would have an attack from the north by Hezbollah or in Judea and Samaria. And if we sent all the forces and all the units to Gaza to to to thwart off the the attack that was happening there, we wouldn't have any forces or units to send as a response to the north or to or to the West Bank in in uprisings there.
And folks, the fact is, conspiracy or not, October 7th attacks left over a thousand innocent Israelis dead. And that bloodshed continues to fuel Israel's campaign to root Hamas out of Gaza. What's the solution with Palestine? You want to propose a Palestinian state. What does that mean for Palestine? And what does that mean for Israel feeling protected that another October 7th isn't going to happen again? Well, that should be the policy. No October 7th again. That and not militarily eliminate Hamas, which is where Netanyahu's policy is. It means Israel is a secured state, Jewish homeland, democratic state for for the Israeli people. Palestine, no Hamas, democratic elections, demilitarized, is a Palestinian state with the help of Jordan and Egypt and and other Arab countries, Saudi Arabia, to help make sure that it is secure, that it isn't overtaken at all by terrorists or Hamas, and that it will not threaten Israel and it recognizes Israel's right to exist as a Jewish homeland. And people say that's hard. Yes, it's hard, but we have to work towards peace. There's no other alternative.
Was there another American political commentator recently speak on podcast about the disruption and dissent against Netanyahu before October 7th? Yeah. Who is that? Charlie Kirk. That there's many young men in America that are actually questioning and I think have decent reason to ask that Israel is on the suspect list of who killed Charlie Kirk, which is insane. And where did you get that? The mainstream media that are trying to throw Israel under the bus into another conspiracy. They also said that Israel is behind 9/11. Of course, Israel also controls the mainstream media, right? Also, also Israel controls all the banks. That's why Israel demonizes Israel on the mainstream media. Make perfect sense.
So which one is it? Is it kind of what you're saying? Yeah. I mean, just use common sense.
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There's a lot of Americans that are starting to question how much control the Israeli government has over our administration. I mean, you talked about the freedom of speech. You talk about there's contractors in certain states that if the state boycotts Israel, the contractor can't work for them or they can't receive aid money if their house gets hit by a tornado. What is going on? Um, so this is another very emotional issue and you know, I'll get grief just for saying this, but boycotting something is an American tradition. U not only do we boycott the British tea, we dumped it in the harbor, you know, but there were boycotts at the time of everything British. Israel's per capita income rivals Europe, rivals ours. I mean, they've done incredibly well. They're smart. They're talented. They work hard. The innovation that's coming out of there. And the what? The innovation that's coming out. The innovation from tech, all of that stuff. That's also a reason why we shouldn't have to subsidize everything they do.
It is really hard to get US politicians to speak about Israel or Apac. Many staffers shut us down the moment that we said we wanted to talk about those subjects, even if they previously said their senator was available for an interview. I mean, just watch this exchange on Breaking Points with Michigan Senator Alisa Slakin. Do you think Apac should register as a foreign lobby? I don't know the answer to that. I think that I know plenty of people who think they should. Mhm. I, I don't. It's kind of a cop-out answer. Going. I, I mean, I, I literally, I, I just guess I'd have to look at the definition. I certainly, I certainly have had my tough moments with that organization.
And so you stop accepting their funding. You got to get, you got to get your facts straight. Senator Slakin has taken $656,000 from Apac-linked groups. So it's no wonder she dodged these questions. And she's not alone. This is how the vast majority of our politicians are operating right now. And it just makes this whole thing weird because if this is the right move and Israel is truly our greatest ally, then why are they so afraid to speak on it? It doesn't make any sense. We were just talking to a lot of senators' teams and they said,
"Yeah, you can talk to the senator, but one thing you cannot ask about is Israel."
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"What's your take on that?"
"Well, I think for a lot of our elected politicians, Israel is a is a sensitive subject. Um, that's concerning because I think that when you when you ask somebody, 'What can I not talk about?' The answer is then you know who controls you. We can't talk about Israel. Why not? We give them our tax dollars. We fight in their wars. Is it money? Is it religion? Is it politics? Is it power? Is it a combination of all of them? I I don't know. But in my mind, there is not a dollar amount on the planet worth turning a cheek to a genocide. Israel is an extremely useful asset to have in the Middle East. Both from a Western Empire domination perspective as well as from a money-making, dealmaking, political maneuvering perspective. It's very useful to have a nuclear armed nation that depends on us for foreign aid and for their very survival. In many ways, they're working on our behalf."
"Like I said, there's a lot of technology connections. If you use an iPhone, you probably have a lot of stuff on there that comes from Israel. There is a a connection in terms of uh culture. I mean, the the religious foundations."
"To understand America's support for Israel, you have to look at the country's deep ties with American evangelical Christians. You see pastors like Kenneth Copeland funding Israeli surveillance, while others like Greg Lock are openly calling for Gaza's destruction."
"Israel should make the Gaza Strip a parking lot by this time next week. It's evident that many on the Christian right fiercely defend Israel. And it's worth asking why. One theory is because evangelicals interpret biblical prophecy to mean Israel's survival is directly tied to the second coming of Christ. They take verses like Genesis 12:3, Ezekiel 37, and Revelation 16 to generally conclude that the end times will be centered around a battle for Jerusalem. So for many of these evangelicals, supporting Israel is not just a political stance, but it is a way of aligning with what they believe is God's unfolding plan for history. Every president in recent memory from Obama to Bush to Trump to Clinton says Israel is our greatest ally. Why do you think they say that?"
"Uh Israel has been a u staunch ally in the Middle East. They continue to be that way. But what has happened with with uh the state of Israel is it has come under the uh control of a right-wing extremist who's not interested in peace and that has led this country to where it is now committing genocide."
"Are they our asset or are we theirs or a combination?"
"Isn't that the question? The Zionists would say that it's a partnership, right? Right? The Zionist would say that we love Israel and Israel loves us and we support each other and we both promote Western values and we're both the he's the only democracy in the Middle East, right? Um sort of assets are relationships based on manipulation, coercion, control. Inherently allies is a relationship built on friendship and shared growth and shared gain. And ally is a word that I would not use to describe Israel. Do allies spy on each other secretly? Maybe. Do allies spy on the terrorists that conducted 9/11 and then not tell you what they're seeing? Maybe. Do allies send Jeffrey Epstein into the White House 17 times to apparently develop a relationship with the president of the United States and then probably blackmail him? Definitely not."
"And let's just say we do want to be allies with Israel. Are we not able to hold them to standards that we should hold every other country to for war? Yeah, war is ugly. I get that. And you got to take out the what they view as the bad guy, the militants. Okay. If if you were taking them out specifically"
"as Americans, what do we want in our legacy? We want to be honorable people who defended the voiceless, who defended the downtrodden. That's kind of our story. We always rooting for the the underdog. And then when it comes to this genocide, we are aiding and abetting the eradication of civilians. And I think us American citizens want the best for people, for humanity."
"Yeah. One big thing Americans need to think about as we continue to fund Israel and stand by during the destruction of Gaza is this. Is our support of them helping us or hurting us on the world stage? Can we honestly say that backing Israel is winning us allies or is it isolating us and turning much of the global community against the United States? Because at some point we have to ask whether our loyalty to one nation is costing us the respect of the rest of the world. The the thing that makes conversations about Israel so complicated is that we are having this conversation inside of an information war. We are in the nexus of one of the largest propaganda campaigns the world has ever known because there is an entire nation's future on the line. And so the first thing you need to understand in order to understand anything about the Israel conversation is that Israel knows that winning the hearts and minds of the American people is the most important victory that they can possibly have on the battlefield. And they spend billions of dollars targeting American minds through politics, through media, through brands, through celebrities, through every piece of messaging that they can possibly use. Because if America starts to genuinely question our relationship with Israel in any meaningful way, Israel has to rewrite their entire playbook of how they do what they do and what their goal is. Folks, the truth is this is a very complicated issue that would take an entire college course or hundreds of podcasts I feel like to really understand what we're talking about. So this should just be the tip of the iceberg, a springboard for you to start your own investigation. But I want to empower you, the viewer. You also are a journalist in a way or an investigator. When you speak with your friends, when you look up things online, you are also discovering the truth for yourself. So take nothing I say as the truth. Figure it out for yourself. But hopefully this points us in the right direction to ask questions that a lot of us feel deep in our gut like something is off here. Something is wrong here. And I will not be intimidated into not asking questions. After all, I'm a goddamn American. I feel fiercely proud to do this because so many people sacrificed their lives that we have this freedom. So may we always have it or may we fight for it. Love you guys. Thank you for tuning in and we'll see you next week."
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