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Iranians say that assassinating Donald Trump is something that must be done and will definitely be done. What Trump wants is to sell weapons. There are only two options. One is for the US government budget to buy weapons. Two is for allied nations to buy weapons. Currently, Germany, France, and others are being incited to break apart so they don't produce their own weapons and instead buy from America. "Make up with Turkey. Ah, I'm not angry with you. Stop your sanctions. Sell your Russian weapons and buy mine." It's all about selling things. In the past, when the Soviet Union and America quarreled, it was about the missiles stationed in Turkey. If Turkey is lost, Europe will be in danger, just like Russia losing Ukraine. >> Many products [singing sound] [music] are more than 70 [music] years old. Suphap Oshot will take care of you forever. Suphap Oshot >> Hello, viewers. Welcome back again in the Saturday afternoon segment. I am with Professor Thani. Professor, hello. >> Hello. >> It has been almost 10 full days since I was in Iran, viewers. Today is truly exclusive because Khun Thani has just returned from Iran. Professor, how were the past 9 or 10 days there? Professor, what's the overall picture? >> The overall picture now, I was there for 9 nights and 10 days. What I found was an unexpected Iran. It's that >> Mmm >> They are living their lives normally. They are not afraid of war. And there are many people on the streets, normal commerce, normal travel, normal everything. Simply put, they are not in a state of war as we might have imagined. But what I want to emphasize is that they do not consider dying in an attack to be a matter of fate or karma. They believe it is a matter of sacrificing their lives for God. Therefore, they are not afraid. No one is afraid. I see that Donald Trump's going to war with Iran this time has changed Iran irreversibly. What I mean is that the pro-Western group has started to shift to the anti-Western side. Simply put, they have destroyed all faith in the West in Iran because >> They used brutality. This injustice and brutality have caused everything to seem like collapse, and trust and faith have disappeared. Therefore, the Iranians have united closely and have strength. This ceremony is a demonstration of the strength of the Iranian people who want to show what is called unity among Iranians. >> During the time, viewers, I emphasize to viewers that Khun Thani has just returned. We are talking live, just a day or two ago. During the 6th, 7th, 8th, 7th, 8th, 9th, there were attacks. Our group was also surprised, or did it feel far away? Professor, what was it like then? Did you talk about it? >> We talked. We talked. And the Iranians said, "Don't think too much about it. It's a situation that happens often and repeatedly, going in circles." No one was surprised because everyone was already prepared for a situation of risk. The risk is not that great because it probably won't land directly on us. But if it does land on us, we consider it something that can happen easily. >> We didn't worry too much. But what we worried about at that time was whether we would be able to go home. Personally, it didn't have much impact on me. But I want to say that the impact on the economy, politics, money, and oil, I think it has had a lot of impact, especially >> Oil prices have risen by up to 6.7%, 7%. Do you think it will rise again today? >> But the oil there is 5,000 Toman per liter. Let me explain. Iran is a very unusual country. It has two units: Toman and Iran. So, the Iran unit is 10 times more expensive than Toman. If you don't understand, don't worry. I've tried to understand it a lot. The price displayed at the pump is 5,000 Toman. 5,000 Toman is 25 satang. 1.25 baht per liter. >> Wow. >> 1.25 baht per liter of gasoline. >> Ugh. >> Mmm. >> Mmm. >> The reason is that the government subsidizes oil sales. >> From the government. >> Another thing to explain is the bus fare, subway fare, etc. It's 5,000 Toman. 5,000 is their smallest unit. So, everything is 5,000, 5,000, for convenience. Simply put, the government supports all of these. 5,000 is the lowest unit, the lowest denomination of 5,000 Toman. >> Yes. I will now move on to an important matter. Khun Thani, during the funeral procession, Trump was at NATO, and many issues arose. There are reports that Israeli intelligence sent the latest intelligence to the United States, saying that Trump is a target for assassination, a target for assassination by Iran. Let's start with NATO, Professor. From what you've followed, how is the success at NATO in Turkey? It seems to be quite stressful. >> I think NATO is definitely broken. Shattered into pieces, completely broken. There's no way to go back. I see the future as NATO will only have itself left because Europe, Europe will have to defend itself. Currently, Germany and France are very concerned. They are very stressed because they fear a Russian invasion. I don't think that's possible. Recently, Zelensky gave an interview saying that >> Russia will drop nuclear weapons in Ukraine, but China has stopped them. That's true. The point is that Russia must be very frustrated in its desire to flatten Ukraine. Because NATO or the EU has helped them so much that they probably have no money left. NATO itself has no money left. So, I think the Ukraine war will end in a few days. If Germany or France stops, other countries will stop too. Only Germany and France are left. If they stop, it will end. But >> Uh, uh, in terms of NATO itself, I see the future. It will likely be a situation of self-reliance. Germany is probably preparing to invest heavily in the military. They have already increased their military budget to 2.5%, 5%, and will continue to 3%. >> The strategy for Firstic Max must be to produce weapons in large quantities, no matter what. And they must try to use as few people as possible because the German army is almost impossible to increase its troop numbers, exactly like Japan. >> Yes. >> In the future, we will see warfare that uses fewer people but more weapons, more automation. The Ukraine war now shows this, as people are disappearing. Now, fighting is done by machines, by AI, with accuracy, with the precision of modern warfare. This will make robots fight successfully. Whoever wins, wins with robots, not with people. >> Because fewer people will die. I think future warfare will change. >> Technological superiority will lead to victory. The method is technology, not a large number of deaths. This might make the world better if we fight with technology and the one with superior technology is the winner. We can prevent humanity from collapsing due to war. I think if nuclear weapons are not used, the world can still survive. Personally, I think NATO >> NATO will completely change its form. It might even have to change its name, or whatever, because there will be no Atlantic left, only Europe. >> Oh, Professor, at this moment, let the viewers see. Professor, the moment Zelensky was with Trump was interesting, and it was a joke. Trump said, "Hey, Zelensky, I just had a chance to talk to Putin. He said he wants to invite you to talk in Moscow." And there was a sentence, Professor, please analyze Zelensky's response. He said, "Oh, I wouldn't dare go there. Because there are so many drones in Moscow now, Ukrainian drones. I'm afraid of dying, it's dangerous." That was quite witty, Professor. This moment. >> Actually, regarding drone technology, I want to tell Thai people to understand that there are two countries that are good at it now: Iran and Ukraine, because they have experienced real war. >> And they have developed using real war. Therefore, they are skilled because of experience. Experience. The technology isn't that complex. It's just flying and AI. When these two are combined, it becomes a high-performance drone. Currently, what Iran has is AI technology and drones that they have developed for decades, so they are good. Ukraine, on the other hand, has received technology from Europe and America and incorporated it into their drones. They have been developing for 5 years. I think their technology has gone far because they have tested and corrected, tested and corrected. It's the acceleration of war. Normally, ordinary people wouldn't develop these things because it requires enormous money. But when there's war, they can test all the time. So, there are two skilled countries in the world: Ukraine and Iran. Therefore, I think in the future, Ukraine will be a drone superpower. They are now investing in building factories and so on in the Middle East and selling technology. Iran is the same. Just recently, [cough sound] Iran offered Shahed drones to someone, I don't know who. What will the Thai government think? And it makes it like a missile. A missile means you don't have to fire a missile from an airplane. You can fire a missile from the ground. And it's not like a missile that costs billions. Most missiles cost up to 50 million, 100 million. But drones that work like missiles cost only 12,000, 300,000. This changes the economics of war from military warfare to economic warfare. Whoever wins is when you >> can do it cheaply. Japan has already produced them. Paper drones, plastic drones. These are worth thousands. Think about it. In the future, if you fight and you don't have drone technology, can you fight them? >> If 10,000 or 1,000 are sent at once, at a cost of 5,000 baht per unit, if you don't shoot down a single one, it will reach you, and you will be destroyed, right? So, the way of warfare will change immensely. From what I've seen, many people are saying, "Hey, Trump is drunk." The big brother of NATO. And of course, there are speeches, some parts talking about budgets, which they criticize, saying they've paid a lot to NATO but never helped anyone. Is there a chance America will no longer be involved? That is, no longer involved at all? Is it that serious, Professor? >> I think Donald Trump is the worst president in American history. The worst, meaning he doesn't care about the interests of the people, he cares about his personal interests. And he wants to create greatness. Americans were wrong to elect him. So, what is happening is not happening because of Americans, it's happening because of Donald Trump. And behind Donald Trump are all the deep states that supported him to rise, for the reason that they want to sell weapons. So, what Donald wants is to sell weapons. And there are only two options. One is for the US government budget to buy weapons. Two is for allied nations to buy weapons. The strategy now is that the US government has no money, and they see their pockets are empty. There's no money left. The only viable way is to take money from Europeans to buy American weapons. >> So, the best way is to take money out, reduce funding, and let Europe contribute. That's all. It's back to the same place: weapons must be bought as before. Currently, Germany, France, and others are being incited, incited to break apart so they don't produce their own weapons and buy from America. >> Uh. >> See, Turkey went to reconcile with Turkey. "Ah, you don't need to anymore. I'm not angry with you. Stop your sanctions." >> "Sell your Russian weapons and buy mine." >> Oh my. >> It's all about selling. There's nothing complicated. Look at it from all angles. Uh, uh, oh, because viewers, Turkey was banned by America when it bought weapons from Russia, right? And then Trump said, "Okay, it's better now, it's better now." Even though Turkey is a NATO member. Uh, it's strange, Professor. >> Yes. >> Uh, Turkey's role, Professor? >> Turkey is a nation like India. It's in two camps. Is Thailand too? I'd like to ask [inhale sound] when there's time, we need to discuss Turkey's strategy and India's strategy. It's a good strategy. Meaning, you don't have to choose sides. You are on both sides. From an outsider's perspective, it might be seen as playing both sides, but if it benefits you the most, then it's acceptable. What Turkey is doing is that they are quite close to Russia and quite close to America. I think this is their personal ability and a strategy they need to adopt because they are the bridge between Asia and Europe, right? So, they should have the capability to do this. I want Thailand to emulate Turkey or India. To be a country with strength. Strength means you have the power to resist or the power to make them obey you. Not weak like Thailand, where you dare not say anything, you are afraid of being criticized, afraid of being called this or that. We are a small country. Turkey and us, our size and population are similar. Why are they so great? [cough sound] They can produce their own weapons. They can supply weapons to foreigners. They can negotiate with Russia. They can negotiate with America. This is a matter of national strategy and planning. We can be a strong country, not by being a country of billions like China. We are only 70 million, and we can be a great country. >> Ah, Professor, this is interesting. Let me ask. This is a perspective. Turkey, viewers, Turkey is a NATO member, okay? But the strategy you mentioned is that they are happy with Russia and happy with the United States. So, how does NATO, or Western countries, view Turkey, Professor? It's interesting. >> Of course, they view it. They view it as someone who is a thorn in their side, or someone they don't like very much. But due to strategic necessity, strategic necessity. >> If Turkey wasn't there, I ask you. >> Europe would be in trouble. >> Europe would be in trouble because it's the location of the missiles. In the past, when the Soviet Union and America quarreled, it was about the missiles stationed in Turkey. The problem arose because geography dictates everything. Turkey's geography is important for NATO's security, important for Europe's security. If Turkey is lost, Europe will be in danger, just like Russia losing Ukraine. >> Exactly the same. So, you will see what happens. China is also like this. If China loses ASEAN, for example, if a military base is established in Thailand, >> Thailand will definitely be bombed. >> I guarantee it. It's like Ukraine and Russia. Look at the geography. If missiles or nuclear weapons are placed in Thailand, China will bomb Thailand for sure. Because it's like pointing a gun at their throat. It's very dangerous. >> So, you don't have to worry that >> China will allow anyone to set up a military base in Thailand. >> Similar to Turkey. Turkey is also like that. At that time, Russia, the former Soviet Union, quarreled with America because of the nuclear missiles stationed in Turkey. >> Yes, yes, yes. >> So, Khrushchev then placed missiles in Cuba to point at America's throat, just the same. >> So, at that time, the negotiation was >> Oh, yes, yes. >> They had to leave Turkey. If they didn't leave Turkey, [cough sound] there would be a nuclear war for sure. >> Yes. And Professor, at that time, many decades ago, that was a moment when it was said that the world was closest to a nuclear confrontation, one of the closest in history since nuclear weapons were invented, right, Professor? >> Correct. They were preparing to strike. But due to Khrushchev's willingness to back down, Khrushchev is considered to have thought at the time that they couldn't fight America if it came to nuclear war, everyone would die, so he backed down. But it wasn't a retreat without strategy. It was like, >> Mmm. >> "You leave, I leave, and it's over." No one loses face. If you don't leave, I will confront you. But at that time, the Cuban missiles hadn't arrived yet. [inhale sound] >> They were just loaded onto ships and were going to Cuba, and the American navy surrounded them. At that time, it was still possible to negotiate. If they had been deployed, it would have been difficult to negotiate. Oh, okay. This is NATO, which shows cracks and increasing fragility. And as I said, they are not happy with Turkey, but because of its geographical location, including its terrain, it is indeed important. These past one or two days, this is very interesting. Trump made a live statement before boarding Air Force One. A reporter asked him, and he replied that he himself is the number one target, the most important target for Iran. He said his life, the chance of the president's survival is very risky, more risky than a race car driver. And I am the one that Iran will try to kill. The next day, there was a report from Axios that Israeli intelligence sent a warning to America that Trump is the number one target in Iran for assassination plans. Professor, is this a joke or not a joke? Or how likely is it? It's interesting. >> Listening to what Iranians say, that assassinating Donald Trump is something that must be done and will definitely be done. >> But if it's done while he's in office, it will cause a war called a large-scale Iran-US war. So, America will definitely send hundreds of thousands of troops to invade Iran if there is an assassination while he is in office. >> That's a risk that I think Iran might not want to take. >> Because Iran doesn't have the strength to invade America, but America has the strength to invade >> Iran, right? This is the difference. Therefore, if Iran openly and clearly assassinates an American leader, I think Iran will be completely destroyed. Nuclear weapons will be used. So, I don't think it will happen during this time. But there is talk that after that, after he finishes his term, I think he will definitely be assassinated. There's no other way. I can think of it this way: if you were an Iranian, and you had, what do you call it, a secret army that is enormous, and you have money, and you think that Supreme Leader Khamenei will not give the order, "Hey, for the safety of our country, you should not assassinate him now. But when he leaves office, he should die by our hands." I can think of that. >> There is definitely a milestone here, which will correspond with what Axios reported. >> Definitely. And there will be a bounty. Whoever assassinates him will get how much money. It's definitely normal. >> If I were him, I would have to do it. Oh, they killed my whole family. Do you think I would let it go? I have power in my hands, I have money in my hands. Wouldn't I seek revenge? But if I seek revenge now, even if it's successful, the country will be destroyed. So, maybe wait a bit? If we wait, it's only a little over 2 years. When the time comes, let's assassinate him. Isn't that better? So, I warn that >> What Trump said is true, but when it will happen, he probably knows. >> That he could be assassinated at any time. And the security detail after he leaves the presidency, at most, there will be 2 or 3 people in the security unit. >> True. >> And do you think [laughter] that shooting Trump would be difficult? It shouldn't be difficult. So, I think we should wait and see. After Trump leaves office, what will he die from? >> Oh my. It's interesting that viewers, regarding the Axios report, Israeli intelligence, of course, has operatives embedded in Iran. Professor, they really reported that this plan, this plan, is like a significant milestone for Iran in the near future. Okay, the report doesn't specify when or how it will happen. It's probably not soon because it's impossible to get to Trump now. But when you expand on it, Professor, in the future, maybe in 2 or 3 years, or 4 or 5 years, but this milestone is like a mission that is related to the assassination of Soleimani, Professor. It's probably like that, right? It's an eye for an eye. >> Yes, yes. If you walk in Tehran, you will feel that ordinary people hate Trump more than anything in the world. Trump doesn't know how he thinks. >> He doesn't know. He doesn't know that when tens of millions of people hate you, and the power of that hatred, it must reach the people who have money to do this. This matter requires a lot of money. >> Therefore, assassination, I think it's not difficult for people with money. So, we say that as long as someone hires them, someone will do it. >> Mmm. >> But they fear the consequences, as I said. If it happens within the next 2 years of his term, there will definitely be nuclear weapons, because America has the right to drop nuclear weapons on Iran immediately. >> Yes, if you assassinate their leader, I must retaliate. That's it. [cough sound] >> Every American will say they must do it. And who will stop it? No one will stop it now. >> Someone is stopping it, so they can't do it because there's no legitimacy. But if the president is assassinated, legitimacy will be abundant. It's not worth the risk, not worth it. >> Not at all. Professor, if we compare, if we compare with a hypothetical event, let's say there's an attempt in this regard now, compared to the Bin Laden incident, which is more serious? >> Oh, Bin Laden was much more serious. Bin Laden was about [inhale sound] >> The revenge of the Arabs, not Iran. >> Iran has nothing to do with it. Think about it. Iraqis are Arabs. They resent America for dominating their country, preventing a revolution. Everything is based on royal families in the Arab world. So, America's intervention, if America wasn't there, the royal families would be gone. >> So, the common people are suffering, they are resentful, and that's why they formed extremist groups, created Bin Laden to take revenge on Americans. See? When they took revenge on Americans, America retaliated by invading Afghanistan and Iraq. >> So, it's clear that if something like that happens again, they will invade anyway. >> It's legitimacy. The American people will say, "Let's go invade." This will definitely be a green light. If that happens, if the president is assassinated, because Trump didn't die because he spoke badly, he died because it's the dignity of Americans. They wage war as the American state, not for personal assassination. Therefore, the retaliation will be severe, definitely. >> Ah, this is one thing that Trump came out and said, in a way, that he knows that his position, that he is at risk in the coming period. Oh my. >> I think it's about war. >> Uh, I've been criticizing war for many years. >> I think there's no way to avoid a major war because Americans won't allow it. China has clearly stated that they [cough sound] don't want >> war, but if war breaks out, they are ready to fight. They are ready to fight now, not ready to invade. And are Americans ready to invade? I think Americans are not ready to invade. So, to answer the next question: how will war happen? It will happen like this: the Ukraine war, the Iran war. >> Representative. >> And next, war will definitely happen in the South China Sea, 1 million percent. So, think about it. If it happens in the South China Sea, it won't happen in our country, but if it happens in the South China Sea, will it spread to our country? The Strait of Malacca will definitely happen. >> Ugh. >> But they won't let war happen in China. They won't let war happen in America. But they will let war happen elsewhere. They will fight elsewhere. >> And what do I mean by "major war"? >> Japan will join, Taiwan will join, the Philippines will join. America will come to help fight in the South China Sea. And the South China Sea will become a huge battlefield that we cannot avoid because goods will not come. All the choke points where you receive goods worldwide must pass through the South China Sea. If you block this, you won't get gold from China. It's Myanmar. >> Yes, the route. >> Myanmar will be completely occupied. They still plan to build a port in Liam. Because Thailand is not cooperating, they will build a port in Liam. Because the port in Liam is a crucial heart. >> Very much so. For them to have a breathing space at the port of Jia Pi and the port of Liam. Therefore, >> Yes. >> Thailand is in the middle, like a sandwich between two sides. And how prepared are we? How much will it be devastated in the South China Sea war? >> The third is the South China Sea war. Why do I say South China Sea? Because they won't fight on the mainland. >> Because there's no way the United States can fight on the mainland. Because they have prepared immense defenses. >> They won't dare to go in. So, they will fight in the South China Sea. Because the reason is that they must win here. If they win here, then they can [cough sound] invade China. If they don't win here, they can't invade. Therefore, this war is the most important war, like the Pacific War in World War II. What China must do is seize the Gulf of Thailand. If they seize the Gulf of Thailand, then China will have a chance to win. And will China seize Thailand? That's the question everyone needs to understand. >> Ugh. >> Do you think China will seize Thailand if they want to seize the Gulf of Thailand? They must seize Thailand to fight America in the South China Sea. What will be left of Thailand? >> But someone asked if it has been seized yet. It has been seized. [laughter] Has it started yet? >> That, that, I know. Economic. Economic seizure. This is military seizure. >> Economic seizure. [laughter] Okay. >> This is not to scare you, but I see it this way. Everyone says the same thing. And you think, is there any other way? Oh my, a peaceful world. Donald Trump, Xi Jinping, we will love each other forever, we won't fight. There's no way. So, I say, don't think too much. War must happen. But how big will it be? >> Ah, how big or small. Uh, oh my. We need to control it. Let's get back to an important segment. This is something we can't miss. What has happened in the past half-year has caused turmoil in money markets, capital markets, gold markets, and stock markets. Let me start with this. What factors are currently affecting oil? Let's talk about oil first. What is the future direction of oil? Oil. >> Oil, you know, it will keep rising until Donald Trump says, "Okay, Pakistan has begged me. They asked me to help the world. Come back and negotiate." And Trump will say, "Okay, I sympathize with Iran. Iran has asked many times. Pakistan has asked. Saudi Arabia has asked." >> "Return to negotiation." >> You will hear this speech on Monday. >> Mmm. >> It will definitely be said, and oil will fall. But if he doesn't say it, Donald Trump will collapse. >> Currently, oil has been filled into the tanks of many people. Iran has released billions of barrels. >> Currently, Iran has about 5,000 million, 6,000 million. They can use this money to do this and that, to solve the situation. >> Uh, what's happening now is that the oil in the US tanks is not yet full. And if they close the Strait of Hormuz, oil prices will rise. They have to buy oil to stock in their tanks at a high price. So, what's happening is that it affects the oil sold in the US, which will be expensive. Now, when it's not enough, they call it Cinderella. >> It's midnight, and I have to go back. They haven't returned yet. And what happens? They will transform into something. So, I think Donald will speak on Monday, saying, "Okay, they asked me. I sympathize with them. So, I will declare a ceasefire and continue to talk." There is no other choice. There is no other choice. You say Donald will go to war with America. Oh, the most severe bombing, even more than before. >> If that happens, the one who benefits is Iran. >> Ugh. >> I guarantee that Iran will be okay. I will let oil prices rise further, and I will use the method of selling oil. >> This and that, blocking their territory. I think it's difficult. Blocking their territory like before is difficult because your navy can't withstand it anymore. The navy has been deployed for months. >> Regarding oil, many people have asked, "Hey, this time, is it really true? Gold is also volatile due to many factors." Okay, there's oil, there's inflation, there's Kevin Watch, etc. Professor, how do you assess gold? Is it a safe haven right now? What's the overall picture? >> Gold, the latest I've heard from the news is that production hasn't increased. And China has bought the most gold in 3 years in the past month. And central banks are also buying gold. So, I think oil, uh, gold won't be very spectacular. The price will probably stay around this level for a while. There is demand, but the demand is not enough. So, I think in the long-term situation, buy it now. And in the future, it will go up to 100,000 baht. But it's normal for them to create an opportunity for you to buy. >> But will you dare to buy it? Where to buy it? This is skill. I think it will go up next year, at least 100,000. >> Mmm. >> Just my feeling. >> Regarding inflation, how severe will the Fed's actions be, and Kevin Wall's stance, Professor, briefly? >> Interest rates, interest rates, interest rates will definitely rise. Interest rates will rise by at least 0.25, 25. Because now, do you see the Japanese yen? 162 yen to 1 dollar. That's a huge time bomb. You need to understand that Japan is a very important country to America. They will definitely withdraw money from US government bonds. They are gradually withdrawing it to use. Otherwise, they will face the problem of rising interest rates in Japan. So, they have no choice but to raise American interest rates. Because if the gap widens, the wider it gets, the more it causes problems for the yen and the dollar. I think interest rates must rise. Believe it or not, the next hike might be 0.25, 25. >> Mmm. >> Ugh. >> If the problem of oil is not resolved, that's why I say, oh, anyone can guess. >> They will retreat. >> Oh, yes. We meet like this, at least on Saturdays. But if there's an urgent matter, it seems we have the opportunity to meet more often. Professor [laughter]. >> Professor, thank you very much. Professor, thank you very much. >> Goodbye. Thank you. See you again. >> Thank you. >> Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to the Su Tao channel to not miss interesting clips and watch new clips before anyone else.