Poop & Intestinal Health w/ Atom Bergstrom | Mitolife Radio Ep. #114

[Music] do [Music] you're listening to episode 114 of My Life Radio. I'm your host, Matt Blackburn, and today we have Adam Bergstrom, a regular guest on the show, this time to talk about poop, digestion, constipation, loose stools—all that fun stuff. He was actually a colon hydrotherapist for years, so he got to see all sorts of things come out of people's rectums. I've actually only got a colonic once, and that was a really interesting experience. It didn't have too much of a profound effect from it, except I felt a little more relaxed. But it's interesting, even though Adam used to be one, he doesn't think that they're necessary anymore, if I understood him correctly.

So in this interview, we talk about colon health, different conditions like irritable bowel disease (IBD), talk about pH, talk about lipofuscin and how that affects digestion. And while we focus on intestinal health in Adam's style, we go all over the place, and he drops bombs throughout the entire show. One that uh, really shifted my perception that involves tequila and pineapple juice. That's why I really love having Adam on the show, and that's why he's a return guest. I always learn something new and something that I can even implement into my life. So enjoy the show. Here is the legend, Adam Bergstrom. [Music]

All right, I am here back with Mr. Adam Bergstrom. Welcome to the show.

Greetings, earthlings.

Yeah, yeah. I always have the most questions. It's a record number of questions that listeners send in whenever I have you on the show. And uh, it's fun because, like you said, he took—he mounted his horse and rode off in all directions. That's been most of our shows together, I believe.

I have—I hope I have enough answers to match all the questions.

Yeah. So for this show, we'll focus, uh, at least for the the first half or so, uh, mostly on the intestinal health and the large intestine, small intestine, the colon, the gut, the stomach, and poop. And you've actually been uh, writing newsletters about this, right? Called Turdy?

I think I'm on my third one now. And I used to actually—I used to write a newsletter back in the typewriter days and send it out in the 90s called Turdot. And then I decided to resurrect it, but they uh, did the sex newsletter, and then I thought, "Golly, I know so much about poop." I was a super-duper pooper scooper or colonic therapist myself back in the day, and I learned a lot from a Donald Lay who knew things about the colon that I never suspected, let's say. But it's—life begins in the colon. You've seen those pamphlets—"Death begins in the colon," but also the life force—if you think of the colon as a caterpillar and the brain as a butterfly, and how that transmutation occurs, that's actually possible in the human body. We have the capacity to go into what a Donald Lay calls a "butterfly hood," and it's been called the diamond body, and it really does exist. Some people have made it. I'm not there, but I'm working on it. I'm just a little lump of coal, and gonna be a diamond someday, like the song said.

Yeah. I—I did the colon hydrotherapy session, I think once, and she was telling me stories of like stickers from fruit coming out of people and the parasites. And I think in a previous episode, I think it was the last one, I mentioned psyllium husk because I thought that was like a fiber, and he said, "Watch out," because you've seen that get stuck in people's intestinal tract, right?

Oh, just like glue. It sticks that up quite a bit. In fact, a lot of people, when you take the dietary fiber that comes with the food, it's designed to match the ingredients, but when you take it separate, whether it's oat bran or wheat bran or whatever, it gets people in trouble. In fact, I'd read all the scientific research and found out that wheat—that oat bran is water-soluble and uh, wheat bran isn't. So I was recommending people take some oat bran. Well, I told the Donald Lay about that, and he said, "Be my guest." And when he said that, it usually meant, "Oh, you're in trouble." Well, shortly—six months later, they had a deal in the paper about a man who had taken oat bran, and it had stuck like cement into his small intestine, and they had to do surgery to cut it out. And by the end of the year, they were warning people—this was becoming epidemic. And you—you barely heard that—certainly not at the open sewer epidemic that surgeons were cutting people open to take out the the water-soluble oat bran. And they were saying, "If you take it, it's okay, but take no more than a tablespoon to an eight-ounce glass of water, and drink 16 ounces of liquid after you take it." That's a lot different than they told you. So I stopped taking it at that point.

I think I saw a post by you today—is that constipation is the real epidemic?

It is.

Yeah. And you know it's interesting how it's increasing because uh, a lot of conditions—IBD and all that—is now a global emerging problem. We heard that before, and it's uh, but the the reason is that people are taking all these antibiotics and uh, and even a lot of probiotics are actually problematical when you think of it. What is a probiotic? It's an endosome, an exosome. And what do they tell you about exosomes? They're trying to get rid of them, and they—they're taking them at the same time. We have two hemispheres of the brain, and one doesn't compute with the other. Often you'll hear one thing about taking something like quercetin, but you'll find it in poison manuals as a mutagen and carcinogen. And many things are sold like that. Here's a trick for people: Go to uh, Ruth Winters uh, or one of these books that have ingredients that are added as food additives. She has one for cosmology uh, for uh, cosmetic ingredients, and then one for food ingredients. I think she has a drug one too. But go in and look at—whenever you see a new supplement come out, go to that manual, and you'll find out it was something that came in 55-gallon drums, but they can make more money selling it as a brand new antioxidant. And it must be good because it has 62 letters in the word plus a lot of hyphens and Greek letters too to prove it—"Zuccosa hexanoic acid," right?

Yeah, exactly. They go into all of these names, and you know, and again they avoid the short names, like—"It must be bad for you because it's only three letters." Fat must be bad because it's only four letters. Salt must be bad—it's only five letters. Sugar—so they've got us bamboozled that those things are bad for us, and yet they've been around since however—wherever we came from—it's been around a long, long time. And that must be bad—these new chemicals—they have no idea—even Ray Peat says that usually to tell if a drug or a supplement has any effect on the human body, you need 50 years at least to tell—the study. And of course they do a study, and it's out in six months or whatever after that—after they—they run rats and don't realize the side effects, just like chemotherapy. It—a lot of people—it doesn't kill—it actually can cure cancer, but they're guaranteed several other cancers on top of that, whether it's five years or six years. They cleverly call a cancer survivor five years because that's all they're going to give them. After that, it's anybody's guess, and it's not the same cancer that comes back—it's a whole bunch of other cancers that come back.

Wow. Yeah, really good points. And uh, I think with the probiotics, like the strains matter. And I used to be in the—I think the faulty—like kind of view that, "Oh, the more the better." And so I was making my sauerkraut, my kombucha, and just pouring in 40-strain capsules. I was just like, "Oh, the more diversity the better," but that's kind of playing with fire when you don't know what each of them do, and you know the current state of your intestinal tract. I mean, I'd imagine there's so much context involved. I mean, with any supplement, right? I mean, other people taking iron supplements today is like—it's doing more damage, right, than it used to.

Yeah, I went for the iron supplement thing, but uh, I figured that out in the 80s that uh, I saw all the iron overloads that were occurring. And interesting enough, I found out—there being an iridologist, but one of the Josef Deck type—the American iridologist uh, Bernard Jensen—it was mostly pupillology, but in uh, the Deck books, you could see these little spots in the eyes. And to my amazement, it was caused by iron. And you get—it looks like a swarm of bees if you—under a microscope—really small, dark brown, black spots in the eye. And by that time, it's too late. The person has probably already had congested heart failure; the liver is trashed completely. And unfortunately, that's an iron—I read the logical sign that it's too late. It's—it's never too late, but basically you're late in the game. You've got some major healing to do with that time.

Yeah. On this topic, it was uh, really fun to listen to you and Justin and Morley Robbins talk about lipofuscin together. And uh, I love Morley, and it's interesting that he thinks that iron is the major—like the main component of lipofuscin. I don't know if we could break it down by percentage—I don't—I've never seen a study where it's like, "Lipofuscin is ninety percent iron and ten percent hoofa," right?

It's—it's only one percent, but it's a powerful one percent. See, it's the difference between uh, if you take a glass of water versus a glass of bleach—there's quite a difference. So iron, when it gets in the lipofuscin, becomes very dangerous. Iron in some places in the body is okay. Often we make tumors to store it. A lot of toxins are either tumorized—in fact, as a general rule, brown-eyed people tend to tumorize, and blonde-eyed people tend to eject, so they're more prone to diarrhea and diseases of autoimmune—so-called autoimmunity. And while brown-eyed people tend to tumorize it, and you tumorize it to protect yourself, it can't go anywhere, and then you gradually release it. And if you know what you're doing, you can release all those tumors without them becoming carcinogenic or anything, which is the irritation and inflammation that does that.

Wow. So when you say one percent of lipofuscin, was it PUFA or iron that's one percent?

One percent of the iron. Yeah. In fact—oh, the iron—wow. And most of the lipofuscin is protein fragments—it's protein actually. But that protein—they speculate—because really there's no money in studying—even though it's the cause of a high percentage of diseases and certainly a major cause of aging—but the uh, the protein fragments, they think are actually remnants of the mitochondria that it's cannibalized and put in there. So it's like a waste product—it's basically the—like profession of liposuction—it's the the waste product that it has to carry around while it's physically in us. And eventually the protein overwhelms it. But as uh, Peskin, who uh, Dr. Peskin, who I really kind of uh, don't follow his advice, you know—he's a fish guy that avoids fish oil, but these other oils are okay—one thing he does get correct is that even though lipofuscin is less than oil—there is a smaller amount of oil—it's the oil that controls everything. And that matches the manual or BC. He said the whole idea of pH in the body or acid-alkaline is based on the oils, not on the minerals, not on all these other things they blended on—it's actually sterols like cholesterol and fatty acids which make you alkaline, strangely enough. And uh, and Dr. Peskin uh, has grasped that—at least most of his other ideas—avoid sugar and all this other stuff—mostly nonsense—but uh, but that—that one he got right.

Yeah, that's one of the biggest myths, right, in the health field. And as I'm sure this relates to poop and constipation, but the whole like celery juice, green juice phase, which just really took off, I think really the last five or ten years uh, but they—you know—make—you know—green juices make you alkaline, right? It's gonna clean you up. But as you wrote a newsletter—"Acidify or die"—we're more acid than alkaline, right?

Yep. There too—well, actually, strangely enough, we're more alkaline, but that's the part that is the breaks. It's also the part that breaks us down—it's catabolism. Anabolism of growing muscle is the acid part. And that's why the uh, the alkaline part is more our structure. But if you have a chef, he puts the lid on a pot because that keeps the life force of the acids from going away. They are very volatile. Often malic acid disappears like that—citric acid disappears like that. The kind they make in the lab is a different thing—it's not really the same citric acid like in their orange. But those—why doesn't an acid or a lemon or an orange acidify you? Because it drops into the stomach—it goes poof—it's gone. Then all you have is the stomach acid—that's why it's the residue that ultimately makes you uh, makes you alkaline. But when you hold that lemon or orange in your mouth, you can rot your teeth out by—actually, it's so costly—you take the enamel off your teeth. So it's good not to uh, like hold an orange in your mouth for like 25 minutes or something like that, which most people will—swallow it. And maybe you take a pinch of cayenne because it makes you salivate, and then it's—all your teeth are protected at that point.

I think it was one of our first interviews uh, you brought up grapefruit, cause I think my friends brought—brought me like a box of grapefruits when I was still in California. But um, on the topic of digestion, didn't you say something about an enzyme in grapefruit that kind of inhibits digestion, like you don't want to overdo it with those?

Or yeah, a grapefruit is actually uh, can be estrogenic, so you have to be careful with it. It's kind of the robe of the—of the citric—citrus family, and it doesn't combine with certain things uh, but it holds—it can hold a drug in your liver for 10 to 20 times longer than it normally would. And the whole idea is to flush it out. That's why when people get radiation from—what was the name of it—have to think of the type of—they used some type of chemotherapy at one time, but if you took a couple of glasses of water, it would go out of your bladder really quickly. And actually a a hip doctor would tell you to do that because then you're not going to have a subsequent reactions to it later in cancers because it comes out of your body—platinum—cisplatin—says platinum—if you take it and you get it out of your bladder as fast as possible, or through the liver because it will go through it. But this drug holds toxins in your liver 10 to 20 times longer—that's in a grapefruit. And this has been known from people's pharmacy days on and on—there's all kinds of warnings. Well, I thought, "I'm going to take my coffee at stomach time, and then I want the caffeine to stay in my body, so I'll wait a couple hours to get it out of my stomach, take the caffeine and hold it out," but it doesn't work for caffeine—it only works for sulfur-based elements—anything that has sulfur—sulfur including sulfide drugs and a lot of these MSM products and stuff like that—it holds it in for a lot longer, and they're not supposed to be in there a long time. So if you're going to eat uh, grapefruit, and the case for it is quinine—it does have quinine in the skin—maybe people who believe that works on uh, the uh, the unidentified thing we want to talk about today uh, might take it uh, but uh, but basically no—it's a good one to avoid using, but once in a while for therapy, it can actually clean the gallbladder by the way. You can take some of that, and it will cause the gallbladder to spasm. While the other citrus fruits, with the possible exception of lemon or lime—my god—too.

Yeah, I remember uh, years ago I was minutes away from doing a gallbladder flush, and I'm so glad I didn't pull the trigger, but I bought all the grapefruits and then the Epsom salt that I was gonna take orally. And I think that's like the major combo there. And uh, I think you said it can cause damage.

I've done about five of them, and uh, one time I—I went to El Paso, and I knocked on the door of my friend that I used to stay with, and she says, "You're just in time—my friends have a gallbladder attack." So I run in there, and I press reflexes on the foot—you know—I put reflexology—you have a gallbladder a point right on the uh, on the right foot. And so I pressed it, and and the stone either passed or more likely fell back out of the block, so she was okay. But then she told me she was due for gallbladder surgery on Monday, and this was a Friday, I think I showed up. So I told her about that gallbladder flush, and even though those little green things coming out are not golf zones, it apparently moved it away because she went in and said, "I don't have a problem." The doctor took an x-ray—says, "I don't see what I saw before," so no surgery. So she never got the surgery. So it does do something. I've done four or five—they're brutal purges, and they can be dangerous. One of those does get caught in the—in the duct, and you're in trouble. What most people don't realize is the biggest gallstones form in the colon—speaking about the colon—this is actually in one of my issues of Third Eye—they—they get—they accumulate calcium and other elements around them, and a gallstone the size of say a small marble can grow into the size of a golf ball, or they've even grown as big as a baseball. Now, people die when they hit that the ileocecal valve, which can't pass them—they block. And so many gallbladder deaths—maybe most of them—have are caused by actually the colon, not coming out of the biliary duct and uh, or the uh, or the gallbladder itself or the—the codex—the combination—whatever they call that—the splenic duct and the gallbladder got there. I used to wonder, "Well, how could they—if it—if it got through that duct, how could it get through the—why couldn't they just go through the the ileocecal valve?" And that's why they grow in there and mutate—any irritation that—if you have something that stays in the colon, like you swallowed something—some people swallow amazing things, including sewing needles and awls and all kinds of things like that—it stays in there as an irritant, and it forms uh, it gets encrusted, and that encrusting is what causes the problem. It might be encrusting for 10 years before the problem happened, and no one would ever suspect, "Oh, it's that sewing needle." I uh, I—in one of my Turdy newsletters, I—said Donald Lay told me something that I found hard to believe, but now it's more believable. He said there's a technique called "golden needle technique"—you take a needle and slip it into the thumb and push the whole needle in—it has to be gold—and then it comes out the big toe three, five, or seven years later. And I thought, "Now, wait a minute—this is just a little too much for me about life," but now, to my amazement, going through the old medical records, there are cases of people swallowing pins, and they're coming out the feet and coming out the thigh and coming out bizarre places of the body—there's many cases of it actually. So a needle can get in, and I think Ray Peat has talked about this too—that cells move through your body, and so obviously they can move other things through your body. So to avoid the inflammation, they can shuttle it through your entire body from your intestines all the way down to your feet—that's like, you know, two or three feet in distance that it can transport it. So it's a very real thing that may have been in my last uh, Turdy newsletter, but I was astonished to find that myself.

Wow. Do you think like different meridians of the body carry different minerals?

Something—I think they're associated with it. I don't think they carry it directly. And I—more or less in my research—and acupuncturists are probably going to disagree with me—some may not—there used to be a system in uh uh, aircraft called omni radio—they may—they may still have it—basically you could take your bearing by a signal here and a signal there—signal on—and then you—

You use those; there's no physical connection except radio waves. And I think that so-called the bottom corpuscles and all they try to explain it with in physiology, I think it's more like a radio communication using electromagnetics. And that's my interpretation of it, but anyway, they definitely exist; they're very real; they've been tested. Sometimes people get burn injuries, and the meridian is measured out in their body, and there are acupuncture zones too—five zones that seem to match what we call the five types.

We have the uh, the physical or precipitate matter on the pinky; on the ring finger, we have the water, liquid, or the liquid or the hydraulic level of our body in the middle finger. We have the fire level; maybe that's why the fire—the finger—is so effective for the international gesture of recognition. And it's basically plasma or or fire or magnetics. And then you have the gaseous level, which is the fourth level, and the fifth is the sonic level. And the fifth level is the one that crosses over all of them, either under or over them, to make the martial arts spiffs. And the sonic level is the highest level of evolution, going downward into gaseous pressure, pneumatic pressure, through plasma, through liquid, and then through precipitate matter. And it's really interesting how that works. And I believe the ancients who knew about this a long time ago are absolutely right.

A friend just told me about a really good acupuncturist in town and where I live that I—I guess—kind of integrates esoterics and stuff; she's really good; been doing it for decades. I've never had it done. Do you think—I mean, I've heard—I think I've heard stories of it helping people's digestion, you know, on the topic of poop suffocation—but everything, right—emotional, with just sticking those—those little needles at specific points—it can help. Most acupuncturists are trained with TCM. And again, acupuncturists are going to get on me for this, but there is no such thing; Traditional Chinese Medicine was invented by Matadon; he made it up; there's no Traditional Chinese Medicine. It's just like saying Traditional American Indian Medicine; one tribe had a different medicine than the other. Now it happened through uh, through the uh, Wu Gang monks and to the Shy, through other monks and different schools; they did evolve certain systems that were very sophisticated. Acupuncture has been developed in other countries though, simultaneously in the United States and in France and in Russia and other places in the world that doesn't really relate to the same type of acupuncture.

So pioneers like Mark Seem, Janet Travell, the French acupuncturist whose name is escaping me—feel like something or other—they realize that the points move. And my mentor, Donald Lay, told me the same thing—that a point can move from as much as a half an inch or more on your hand or your foot or your leg. And of course, TCM is based on—it's right here between this fossa and that exact—because supposedly, the Chinese knew they couldn't sell it to American doctors if they said it moved and mystically around the body; so that's what they did. And it definitely does move. I've even had a friend of mine that was an excellent acupuncturist in San Francisco; she asked me, "Why does it move?" So then I answered the question by asking Donald, and automatically, by being in light flow or magnetic flow, which is with the blood flow or against the blood flow, can actually affect that. So if you're in light flow, your energy follows the blood; it's called cosmodyne energy. If you back it up, it's called magnetic energy, and it's not like flow, but it will generate psychic abilities and all kinds of things.

But if you notice, almost all psychic abilities are built on trauma. Peter Hercos fell off a ladder, and suddenly he can tell things. Even in the movie with Christopher Walken, remember he has an accident; he's in a coma for eight years, and he wakes up, and he can read people's minds and tell the future. Well, there's a lot to that. If you see a psychic, a genuine psychic—there's a lot of phony baloneys out there—uh, then uh, they've got hit on the head; they've had an injury and uh, serious trauma, but they can do the job. I've heard too, like um, do you think shutting off our major senses, like our five senses—like touch, sight, sound—like shutting those down will activate our other—like our sixth sense and seventh sense and all those? Yeah, the sixth sense is powerful; we don't even need it though; most people do the other side, the other senses and use it in so-called psychic abilities, but we can't even go beyond that. Uh, uh, what's his name—Sheldrake—Rupert Sheldrake—uh, he has done those research on dogs, you know, where they know the master is coming home. I have personal experience with that. A friend of mine is a psychologist in La Jolla, California, and she has two little dogs; she'll be five minutes away from home, and they run to the garage door where she—she comes in—and they bark and bark and bark and bark. When I first noticed that uh, and I saw her come after that—after that—I would watch him, and then I would run out and look out the window and wait for her to come, and sure enough, three to five minutes later she'd drive up. Now either they had super hearing and could hear that car from a mile away—possible—but we do have those senses, the other senses though.

I studied colonic therapy, to get back on the subject, with a Dr. Merrill Roy out of Arizona. And at one point, I had a friend of mine named Marge; he said, "Did you get a psychic reading from Dr. Roy?" And I said, "Psych? He gives psychic readings?" He never told me anything like that because I studied at his colonic school in Arizona—Mesa, I believe it was. So anyway, I asked him, "Do you do psychic readings?" He said, "No," he says, "Through experience, I have learned to feel the heat radiations off a person's body; I'll show you." So I laid down, and he said, "Uh, you got a problem here—no—ah, that's remarkably clear; here's your problem." And and I knew about that problem, and he was right. And then I saw him do that with several other people, just from feeling the heat off of the uh, the person's body that radiates. Uh, you know, you may have seen this guy on Patrick Bet-David; that was a gambler, and he was blind, but then he could feel by the weight of the cards uh, what card it was, and he could shuffle him up and always get the ace and do all these things; he could feel individual—he had a a type of touch that we can only imagine—that we don't think it's possible—but you'll keep finding people like that who break the so-called rules. And it's not psychic, but there are psychics; I've—I've definitely experienced—well, I worked in the metaphysical—innovative physical bookstore and managed it for five or six years on and on, and I met a lot of fakes, and I met a lot of real people too. Yep, that's awesome.

Um, so would you say like uh, because you were talking about body temperature, does constipation heat someone up or cool them down, or like what are the basic—because that seems like a real epidemic, right? People generally have—they're more backed up than they are too loose and going too often; it's kind of hard to happen, right? Definitely, most people are backed up because our food doesn't have the natural roughage in dietary fiber like in tribal society; they usually ate foods that would make their—have a heavier bowel movement. The average Westerner, when they have a bowel movement, they think that's undigested food; only about five percent—maybe even two percent in some people—is food; the rest of it is mucus and bacteria; those are bacterial colonies that are going in the toilet. Many people can fast and still have a big bowel movement if they do long-term fasting—not advised for a lot of people, but some people are going to do it—but they'll find that the bowel movements keep coming. I've done purges where after six days I couldn't get anything out, and then suddenly I took like corn oil and tomato juice, and the most stinky things came out, and I had to run to the bathroom every hour, so I had about seven or eight bowel movements and had to hold my nose and run out of the bathroom—for—is things that weren't coming out before.

By the way, talked about undigested things—one time I did a colonic on a lady, and out came hundreds—maybe thousands—of little white—little balls—little black ones and little orange ones, and I had no idea what it was. So she said, "What are those?" Because, you know, in the colonic viewing room, you have this little clear uh, pipe that you can see what's coming up. And I said, "Toxins," because I had not a clue what they were. So I ran to Donald again—my main mentor for this—and said, "What were they?" They said they were calcium pills, uh, they were iron pills, and they were uh, Vitamin C pills. I saw that lady again; she took a whole bunch of them. So then I became very suspicious about vitamins dissolving, and the glycerin tablets that people often take supplements in; they often don't digest. So since then, I have opened every crest—every—every capsule and chew up—whether it's Vitamin E, which is an excellent supplement—chew it, and then you're not gonna—then you're gonna get it in the right place; it will start in the throat and start digesting actually or start uh, interacting with the body in the mouth and then go on down. And it's better to get it in the pill because it keeps it in the capsule because it keeps it in the air out of it. When you buy a bottle of Vitamin E, like I do, you rub on your skin; it tends to degrade a lot faster, even in the refrigerator. And this may be a surprise for some people; if you buy Vitamin A, you don't keep a vitamin in the refrigerator; they break down faster; you keep them out in a cool, dry place, and then they can last for years.

That's a good point. Yeah, way off topic; I've been playing with oxytocin nasal spray, and uh, you have to keep that refrigerated. Interesting. Yeah, let's see if I—I used to know a lot about oxytocin, but I've forgotten these days. We'll leave that for our next—our next sex show; we can uh, dive into it; we'll both do research. I've read mixed things, like some people say it's like Ray would probably say it's a stress hormone, you know, but I've also seen so many studies where it shows like it increases testosterone and stuff, so I'm not sure. But yeah, it's good to experiment with these things because people get results. Uh, my friend Steve Shiver—Dr. Steve Shiver—introduced me to the principal that anything can cause anything, and anything can cure anything. So I'm open to when someone tells me they cured it—something that they had with some weird thing—I'm at least interested because the proof is in the footing, you know, if the person has cured themselves.

Now one thing that gets complicated here is the mind; our minds are very powerful, and I've seen people cure themselves with their mind. The placebo effect is well known, and the curative effect is not placebo, according to the doctor's main—you think you're cured; your disease is still there; you don't have the symptoms, but actually you can be cured. I've seen people cured of cancer and just about every disease in the book by belief—are they something they thought they took or finally getting rid of a cognitive trigger event or a trauma, and it just goes away like magic. I love that. Yeah, my focus—like personally in the last maybe I don't know six months—has just been to lower my stress by every means possible, and I could say I've been—I've experienced like a systemic benefit to my body just being more focused on getting into a parasympathetic state and utilizing coffee correctly. And I feel like coffee's helped with that journey; a lot of people will say coffee's sympathetic, right? But you were saying before we started recording that you'll drink coffee with sugar in the middle of the night, right? And actually what you want is the uh, sympathetic state; what people don't realize, and that's been an old saw of meditation for years—when I first studied with the Donald, and he would say meditation is a sympathetic state—I would bring experts to see him, and they'd say that guy doesn't know anything; it's not true. But then if you read a book by a medical doctor and a Zen teacher—I forget the name of the book—it's about that thick—available now on paper book; I finally got a copy of it; I first found it in medical library—and he said it's the other way around. And we have something in our body called sympathetic tone; if you don't have it—if you have a person that's in total parasympathetic state—a doctor has to be careful of handling them because they could—an arm can just law off the the gurney or the table, and it can get dislocated. Sympathetic tone is what keeps us moving—where we can stand up—but it gets a wider flight—is the only thing now—fight or float, right? You can get overstimulated, but they forget that the parasympathetic system can get overstimulated too and cause more diseases even than uh, the other. And actually, to complicate it more, we have four nervous systems; we have a uh, we have a parasympathetic, a sympathetic, enteric nervous system—back to the colon; it mainly regulates the gut—and then we have a skin—a dermatologic system—that almost nobody knows about except I discovered it in the General Electric research that they understood that our skin is an entire uh, another matching system to the sympathetic nervous system; it's what makes us alive, and we don't—we get a lot more from Vitamin D; we get life energy from the sun.

Wow, that explains why I love—because I—I use light therapy here because I'm up here in North Idaho, and there's not UV and no infrared for uh, five, six months—maybe five months—and uh, the last time I used my full body blue light—like pulsing at 10 Hertz—I was literally twitching; I was like my body was just like, "Yes! Like I miss this; I need this!" So that makes sense that it was actually activating not just my skin, but it was doing something to my nervous system. Definitely; blue light—without blue light—the circadian rhythms don't exist. So the ideal time to exposure without the green light is between 11:30 and 12 in the day, and then your rhythms are set at that point. The other set points that we have—red light—we don't recognize it because we have something called color compensation. Uh, what we see is not what we've really seen—just like Louie's tape—we're not hearing what we think we're hearing. At sunset, everything is red around us; the only clue we have is if you look behind the shadows of green—how can the shadows be green—but we see everything as relative; we see a blue sky, we see a green tree, we see a red flower; we see all of this, but we don't know that that's not really what's going on; that's our eyes making up a fake world. And then if you wait uh, an hour—say you're an hour and a half before sunset—now everything's orange, and then everything is actually yellow, and then at high noon it goes to green and all the way to blue, but we don't see that. Articles have been written about it, but people don't read those articles, but in Scientific American—that what we see is not what we see; it's made up. You've probably seen the studies where they put glasses on people, and they see upside down, and after a while they start seeing right side up; the brain starts seeing everything right side up. Then guess what—after a week or so of that—they got used to it; they take the glasses off, and now they see everything upside down, and they have to compensate for a day or two; they can see everything right side up again. So again, what we think we see is not what we see. As everyone uh, for a jury—for identifying witnesses uh, in crime scenes—"She sees something different"—Well, he had a polo shirt on—"No, he had a sweatshirt on"—No, he had a jacket—"No, he had a red shirt on"—the blue one goes on and on; we don't really see what we think we're seeing. The beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

That's a really good point. Are there specific colors that benefit the digestive system in the intestines specifically, or would it be the context of like trauma for that person, or a mix? Uh, definitely there are, and thank you for bringing me back to the subject because he mounted his horse and rode off in all directions here. Digestion is orange and yellow; that's why so many successful restaurants know to put orange and yellow motifs into their—McDonald's—and you see a whole bunch of yellow and orange; it stimulates your gas to crack. Now Shakey's has a different strategy; they use red, which makes you stop; that's a stock song psychologically and even physiologically; it makes you stick around and drink their beer; they want you to watch the little movie shows and hang around and drink uh, teen beards before you leave Shakey's; that's their strategy. Seafood wants you to relax; they're blue, and you can get your crave fish under blue light, and you'll crave other foods and meats and vegetables under yellow and green and orange like so. Yes, they're—they're very important uh, stimulants for uh, for eating—the gastrointestinal tract—and it's used in psychology uh, on people all the time.

Wow. Did the orange and yellow um, increase cravings for uh, cheese? Cause I noticed I love cheese and I have like orange and uh—Yeah, yeah, that's one of the things—a lot of our favorite foods are orange and yellow when you think about it. Yeah, you know uh, green isn't really that much of an appetizing, so people always put something in it like a tomato or something like that. Even in ritual magic, they tell you have a lot of mirrors and a lot of certain colors that always have a certain amount of red to draw your center to it, and the same thing—the—the red, the orange, and the yellows—they stimulate—are digested. Also orange is a sexual stimula—ducks and bunnies mate under that color—so you uh, you get all fluids going with orange, and you just get the gut fluids going with yellow. I'm glad you brought that up because there is a connection, and I think you've made it before in some of your posts or newsletters that between sexuality and intestinal motility, right? You faded out on that one—a couple words that went—Oh, sorry. Um, I was just saying, there is—there a connection between uh, our sexuality and defecation because it's like two types—two different types of release—but they seem to be—yes—on opposite ends or something. It's uh, it's no accident that that the—the—the sex tool is the same one as the p tool, you know, if you think about it, and that they're so closely aligned and that there's so many erogenous zones in that area; Freud got that right; they—they—we go from the back end to the front end as part of our developmental process; he was absolutely right about that. And so there are a lot of sexual stimulants in that particular area—so much that Donald Lay had it—the—he called it the sexual eliminative chakra number one and the sexual reproductive uh, chakra number two, and then of course the womb is actually the third chakra, so that's where you grow things. People who wish to make more money have more uh, physical power; that's the Dantian chakra that actually creates that. If you see a person who has a lot of money, they have overcome their mother trauma—which is mother with an M, money with an M, McDonald's with an M—you'll find Ray Kroc; why keep that name? He wanted to make money, so he changed it to an M; M is the—the key word. People are making money in marijuana now; there's another—right—that's really interesting.

Wow. Um, one note I made here—kind of circling back—I think it was like 20 minutes ago—now that's fine, but it's related to digestion—is uh, stones, and I think this is important to talk about because you mentioned gallstones, which I'm wondering if that's like the primary problem—stone—when it comes to intestinal motility and digesting your food. But I've been researching like uh, there's a big debate right now in the health community—I don't know if you've seen it—but a lot of raw eaters are pro-D supplementation—like D3—like cholecalciferol—Vitamin D supplementation, and there's a lot—and I'm—I'm in on that side for now—just—I mean, I'm always learning—but kind of anti-Vitamin D supplementation.

And you know, getting it from light and not worrying about if it's quote-unquote low, which you know, they actually lowered the bar. I don't know if you look like Michael Holik; um, he was the one that changed the national uh lab values for vitamin D, and it used to be like 12, and then they kept raising it and raising and raising the bar, and now it's like normal is like 60 or something crazy. Um, but I know vitamin D supplementation like uh increases calcium in the blood, and it also has an effect on phosphorus, and I've heard it causes kidney stones. Like supplementing D3 is the primary cause of kidney stones. Any thoughts on all that? Well, some of the supplements can do that; sunshine won't do that.

And when people often don't know that vitamin C was first discovered by uh people going out in the sun or eating food that was out in the sun, and by eating a food exposed to the sun, they got rid of rickets. So it was called antiretric drug about or factor before 12 years before they discovered vitamin D. And actually, when you get vitamin D in the supplement form, it's an analog; it's a vitamin; it's not the true vitamin D that you get. In fact, it used to be called toxiferol, but that doesn't sell; they call something toxify cysterol, so they change its name to calciferol and all the other names they have, and then they added steroid and everything. But you can take your food out in the sun. A classic example is they tell you mushrooms are so full of vitamin D. Well, how do they get it in the dark? A mushroom is so sensitive to sunlight that it has to get it quickly, so farmers can take it out and expose it to direct sunlight for two minutes and get all that vitamin D in it. Usually, I think they do it for practical purposes, five or ten minutes, but some foods take about a half hour to load with vitamin D, and some take a short time, too. I've seen charts comparative that they used to do it back in the day; they don't do it too much because there's no money in it to tell persons people to go out in the sun or put their food out there; there's no money in it, so they don't tell you this. But actually, if you put an animal product in the sun, almost any animal product or oil, you're going to get vitamin D3. If you put any vegetable product out, you're going to get vitamin D2; both are necessary, and they don't tell you about D4. They know themselves D4; it's in the sun. They've found about five or six different vitamins where vitamin D got off to a bad start. It was the first vitamin to ever be patented by the University of Wisconsin, and they realized, hmm, we have taxpayer money paying for our research, and we'll organize a patent and we'll collect it and not give it to the public. It was an outro, but now it's common practice; that's how it's done. Universities do the research; we pay for it; the pharmaceuticals say we've paid all this money for the research; no, we did. They leave that backed out, so something a drug that has sold a thousand dollars a pill—I've seen them more than a thousand a pill—they they've developed for five cents.

That's a good point. Uh, everything in the periodic table is really easy to put together now with computers; it's so cheap. Uh, all they have to do is do the research, and the universities take care of that; their labs are all phony with their little bunny suits and everything aren't looking so cute. It's all been in laboratories; it's done at UCSB here; it's done in the University of Texas; it's done everywhere. Yeah, and we pay for it, and we don't get a bit of except accept the diseases all those pharmaceutical products cause. But many supplements can be useful, particularly if a person insists on eating a McDonald's and they're not going to know much about nutrition or circadian nutrition, then they better have a backup plan, practice, right? I'm certainly not against supplementation. I worked in the industry for—I managed one health food store for only one week, my first experience; I wasn't getting paid enough, so I quit that one really quickly. Then I worked in another health food store for eight years, and then I worked in another one for my third one a matter of months or a year or something like that, another one for a matter of months, and then one in Hawaii for a couple of months as well, managing their supplement department. So, and I've studied supplements before that, you know, when I was in high school, no junior high, I was already studying supplements and taking vitamin C and having the little strips that measure your urine, not knowing that that's not how you measure pH, but it sold everybody that you can tell your pH by either your saliva or your urine; absolutely false.

How long do you have to expose potatoes to—like I know I I thought that at that time and my uh my roommate would uh could go and tell all his girlfriends and everybody, my roommate measures his urine before pee. That's funny. Um, I was curious with with potatoes, how long do you have to expose those; are they similar to mushrooms or just a couple of minutes the sunlight for them to make vitamin D? They're probably a little longer; carbohydrates generally take a little longer, but they do it; even pasta, a dead food can get uh and a cooked food can get it in the uh I may have told the story of the Italian community that moved into New York; they moved in there, and they hung their pasta on clotheslines in the sun. Well, then came the tenements and the buildings; they had to move in these buildings, so they hung them on the the railings of the balconies, and guess what? They've passed an ordinance; you can't do that; it's against the law; it looks terrible; they have pasta hanging off of the apartment buildings and the brownstones. So, but then they all started getting sick because they'd been exposed to the sun before, so then the Italian community would send away to Italy for their pasta; they wouldn't make it anymore because they knew it was making them sick; they had common sense back then, and this was like in the 1920s; they figured that out. Research was done to show indeed at that time that you get energy and life force, and a lot of times they didn't know exactly what it was; it was before vitamin D was even discovered, but they knew you get you had a variety of ingredients that go into food from the sun. Now, if you're worried about flies getting on your food when you do that, Saran Wrap will pass the correct frequencies for making vitamin D; plastic won't uh the last one; they won't pass it; you can't get a bit of vitamin D or most of the things important things in the sun by standing in front of a window or a plastic shield or your car window. But once you're exposed, you can even get it in the shade because shade an ultraviolet ray is refracted; it bounces; vitamin D doesn't; it goes direct like a laser; all of the other colors uh go otherwise; that's why red was so easy to make as a lace; green is a more potent laser, but it took them a while to get that. You ever handled a green laser? They're all I have; that sounds awesome. One time they go way into the sky. So uh a good friend of mine, I used to go up to the uh Jim and Von Harding up into their uh their boat on Lake Powell, and he had one of those lasers, but he had sense enough not just to shoot it around every place. Well, he gave it to a high school kid, a friend of his daughter, and he shot it up in the air toward a plane. Well, he grabbed it out of his hand, but within an hour we had airplanes circuit circling the area looking for trying to find whoever had that laser down there because it's dangerous; you could blind a pilot way in space. And unlike a red blazer where you just see the point of contact and the point of leaving it, the green laser is like Star Wars; it's like a big sword going uh thousands of feet into the air or any place; illuminate a hillside; you see this this ray; they are really impressive. I think they're illegal in this country now; maybe you'll signal some extraterrestrials down; so the sulfur-based beings, not the iron ones.

No, um, I want to ask you about uh animal-based foods versus uh plant foods because it I think you've seen it too; there's this, you know, I'm I'm kind of anti-diet; I think you're in the same camp where you know it's not vegan or carnivore; it's like a balance and context, and um there's like a big debate where you know the vegan camp is saying you know plant-based uh fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds are the best thing for the body, not just the digestion but everything, and the carnivore people saying the antinutrients are killing you and wrecking your gut, right? Because everyone wants to blame that specifically, and that's why the vegans go stream carnivore and only raw meat, and that's uh you know it's lectins, oxalates, phytates, um, but it's more finding that balance, right? A little bit of animal foods, a little bit of plant foods because they each do different things to the intestinal tract. Do I have that right? That's my understanding of it now. Due to survival rates obviously, and Eskimo is going to eat a lot more meat foods than in tropical places where you have fruit there, so there is no real Neanderthal diet or Paleolithic diet because it's different all over. We happen to be on the roads; I mean, if you look at the Mr. Eats All, he ate the airplanes and digested a lot of that metal; how the heck did he do that? I don't advise most people to do it. My son used to have a friend that would eat liquor bottles; he'd drink drink the booths and then eat the bottle, and God knows how he did it; he was a bit crazy, but uh but he could do it. His thing was to go into a bar; uh someone would give him the stink eye, and he would take a he would order a bottle, a half pint of bourbon or whatever, and chug the luggage and then eat the bottle and look at the guy that was giving him the stink eye, and it avoided a lot of fights, but it seemed to be okay. My son lost track of him, but he was an amazing character, and how do you explain that kind of thing?

Yeah, absolutely. Um, with alcohol, I've heard it stops digestion because I've heard mixed things, like it helps digestion, and then some people say because it's what is it uh seven calories per gram, I think it stops it. Um, what are your thoughts on alcohol with food and digestion in general? You know, at one time I was in the camp of that it helped suggestion, but then I found that Dr. William Beaumont, uh he he found a man that he uh that was shot with a musket had a big hole in his abdomen and partly in his lungs, so he healed him up; they thought the guy was going to die, but he lived, but he had an open hole in his abdomen. So uh Dr. Beaumont, a military surgeon, spent about 11 years look at measuring everything and digesting everything and seeing how long it would last in the stomach, experimenting with everything, and really remarkable results. Uh, so alcohol he found pretty much digestion as did uh Dr. Kellogg, John Harvey Kellog. So I think it helps in certain ways though that we don't know about about hormones and things that are unknown. I take a little bit of tequila and pineapple juice at night as kind of a tonic, and I've actually told people to take that; that the couple couldn't get pregnant, and they got pregnant by doing that because of its hormonal response. So I think a little bit of alcohol now and then, and again in time particularly, can make a difference, and it can even heal. There on the History Channel, they had two bootleggers; they had the equivalent of cigarette butts; you know, they could take their booze back and forth, and this was back during the Depression. Well, the uh the revenuers, whoever they were, whatever government organization it was, they came with guns and machine guns and blasted the heck out of the boat. These two guys thought they were done; they were dead, so they managed to hide the boat and get away, and they went up to a friend's house, and they just figured let's drink ourselves to death. Well, they drank Jim, and it cheered sure both of them; one particularly was supposed to be he was he thought he was for sure his dad; the other one was a little more problematical. So for a while, I've told people for your kidneys, drink some gin, which has a unit touch of juniper at kidney time from five to seven in the evening. So alcohols can have very therapeutic effects, and uh if you take too much of them with your meal though, it will definitely uh interfere with digestion.

Wow. Yeah, the tequila with pineapple, by the way, another thing that's amazing, and you can actually gain weight this way. If you take cold liquids, they can inhibit your stomach digestion for 45 minutes before you slow it down that much, 45-50 minutes, and uh now that was one way that a Donald Lay had me gain weight because actually you tend to get gas pressure, and even muscle is mostly gas, so you can blow yourself up. Look at what was the name of that guy that was a weeder man, and then he worked with the uh I can't think of the other guy that did all the machinery, and he gained 72 pounds in a uh in a month, I believe, which is supposed to be physiologically impossible, but then something amazing happened; he got trimmed and and one I think Mr. America, Casey Viator; look him up, Casey Viator, V-I-A-T-O-R. Well, if you read the the Weider magazines, in three days he went on an eating binge after winning that contest and gained 75 pounds. Now that's impossible, but he did it, and indeed we gained weight by blow. I myself have gained 10 pounds under stress overnight and then mistaking that it was my metabolism; I started to stuff myself with food at three times more calories than I would normally have, all kinds of oily foods and everything, and to my amazement, I lost the 10 pounds in the entire week, and that game and I gained 10 pounds, and I've seen it in other people, particularly in stressful situations. I see people uh you know repeat says uh he contradicts himself on this one point: drink low-fat milk because you'll gain weight on the high fat, yet when he went to Russia and people weren't drinking meat, he goes over to Denmark, I believe it was, and they're drinking all this meat and they're all slim and uh and muscular. Well, I drank two quarts of milk often half and half for decades and couldn't put on any water; I ate cheese sandwiches; I stuffed myself; couldn't gain weight, and only when I started working out at the gym then I started gaining weight, and finally my proudest moment when someone came up to me and said, "Are you on steroids?" And I said, "No," but I kind of swaggered out of the gym. Uh, when I don't work out, I just I I get so skinny; if I turn sideways and stick out my tongue, people think I'm a zipper. You know, I've seen more meat in a five-cent taco, but if I go to the gym, I put on the weight.

That's awesome. And some of that is solar nutrition because if you eat things on time, your body will regulate all of that. However, for whatever reasons, it doesn't work for everybody. I've seen people go as solar as I am, eating certain foods at certain times of the day specifically; I've been doing it since 1975, but they don't get lose any weight until they address the underlying traumas or often a gallbladder problem; a clogged gallbladder can hold weight, and then you need to do some of these purges we talked about, either milder ones with grapefruit or extreme ones with olive oil, and there are ones with the the ones you were describing with the Epsom salt and all that. I have no experience with that, but I have a lot of experience with the one with the olive oil and the corn oil and the apple juice and tomato. So how would one like clear the gallbladder like in an easy way that's like gentle? Uh, one way is to work the reflexes on it and the foot and reflexology and also work behind the knee where there's important points and uh also working in the meridian which are at the bottom of the toes that you can work. In fact, if a person is nauseous and gonna throw up, what you do is you rub the second toe uh you know, excuse me, they yield the second toe from the pinky toe, and you rub it, and then two things will happen: you will either puke or or it will settle; that toe works every time I've experimented with it. Yeah, I I was on a boat in Hawaii with someone that got seasick, so I just rubbed that toe, and it settled, and many times they throw up, but then they settle their stomach anyway because they should have thrown up. Uh, that's that's an amazing point, a gallbladder point at the end; they call the points at the end of the toes uh let's see what are they uh the name escapes the body points; our body points is what they call them in Japan, and they're very powerful; you have you have one on your thumb, one on your index finger uh circulation, sex, triple heater meridian, and you have both the heart and the stomach on the pinky and the lung meridian here. So if you want to work on your colon, by the way, right here is the index finger, the one we point with, and people with colon problems all sometimes have uh dogmatic uh attitudes, like one way; you ever seen that gesture, one way, and it shows a uh it's one of these uh born-again Christian uh signs sometimes, and people when they make their point they point like that. Now if you listen to me, they don't go; you would think it's weird. Now you listen to me; you listen to me with their thinking if they go out like that, and you know exactly what they mean. Body language; people say don't do that on a lecture platform because people all think you're you're a butt. So uh the uh but anyway, you can work the end of that finger and go to the bathroom if you want to. Actually uh two ways for the colon; this is often misunderstood; say you have diarrhea or constipation uh with with a person with diarrhea; they say to uh let me think how they work this; yeah, the energy of the colon though in life flow; they want to back it up, so turn it the other way. But actually, you don't want to do that; then the diarrhea stays inside you; you have diarrhea to get rid of, so what you do is if a person with diarrhea they work the uh right side of their butt and uh in the ascending colon, and that's called the watercolor, and by regulating that side of the body, go even going up it with your hand just up it along and not going down on the other side will automatically cause the water to absorb and the toxins to be cleared, and then you get rid of diarrhea the other day; it's you might as well the other way; you might as well put a plug in your anus to cure diarrhea, and that's not a good idea. Now for constipation, you can go both sides; you go down on the left, up on the right; you'll notice that our circulatory system and our so-called cosmodyne energy works in a clockwise direction; we have a clockwise part; it goes down the blood flow and up on the other side; our colon works the same way; some people rarely are born the other way, and actually it's a disadvantage to be south of the equator where life didn't start because you're in magnetic flow all the time, and that's why you have so many psychics down there and also a lot of traumas and no major languages being developed out of that area south of the equator because this the top half of the planet if we go by up and down; there is no up and down, but if we do uh north of the equator is where your languages and big brain development started.

Wow. Um, that's good stuff; strengths, too. You'll notice how the northern country almost always wins over the southern country, whether it's in the American Civil War or other wars; look at Hitler trying to get into Russia; look at Napoleon's rying in against Russia, and what we don't hear that about uh oh 30 other conquerors tried to go for Russia that they had the

Uh, they had magnetics working for them; they had the north pole. Wow. Um, Adam, is it all right if we jump into questions, because I think I have probably like 80 questions?

Yeah, let's do it. Okay. Um, this was a good one: Does poop have a specific shape or smell?

It does. What? Oh, does poop, or should poop, have a specific shape or smell? Because isn't there like the Bristol stool chart and all these different things? Wait, is it soup? Is that the word soup? Oh, poop or feces? Oh, poop. Oh, yes, it does. Oh yeah. Now let's go into the shape of food. Now that's my specialty. Yeah, ideally, and again, some people, it changes by the diet, but it should be well-formed, and it shouldn't have too much of an odor. And in a healthy person, some people can have actually—and I've I've been at that point—as much as an 18-inch bowel movement unbroken, come right out. It's like peeling an apple where you peel the whole thing off, but you can have shorter uh, bathroom bowel movements, but generally it's better if you have a well-formed one, and it it neither floats to the top or sinks to the bottom. If you drink nothing but dairy, watch them drop right to the bottom. In fact, people who eat, drink too much dairy, or at the wrong time, they will get—it will lock up in their rectum. A long time ago, when I drank a lot of milk one time, I I had to dig my poop out of my anus from uh, from what they call milk stool. So, so your stool can actually be an indication about how much dairy you're getting. If you get really hard lumps, and they'll be formed as separate lumps forming a hard one, then you're you're getting too much, so you back off a little. I've I've done really well with dairy, like I say, I've done tons of it, and uh, seems to be okay. You know, I finally made the big 80 revolutions around the sun here recently.

So that's right. Yeah, happy birthday. It's awesome. [Laughter]

Um, how can I fix occasional constipation? A bunch of people are wondering that. You already gave one tip with the index finger. Anything else?

Yeah, actually, that's one of them. The other one is called large intestine 4, which is both a reflex point and an acupuncture point; they both coincide in this case, and it's right in the webbing of the the hand between the thumb and the index finger. You go down to where they join, and it works in there, and you massage that. Particularly for constipation, you want to work the left side more, and it's always good to start with the left side and work with the right side. You can do it more. In fact, recently, I forget what happened. Oh yeah, it was an emotional trauma very recently, and my bowels usually work four or five times a day. Well, I didn't go to the bathroom all day, and Vibrant Gal here reminded me, "What about that point?" So I felt it, and it was really sore. I said, "Wow." So I worked it, then I went to the bathroom, and then I went back, and it wasn't sore anymore. So that L4 is an important point; it's both a reflex point and an acupuncture point, large intestine 4. As a reflex point, by the way, uh, acupuncture points tend to sedate; they activate the parasympathetic nervous system. Reflex points, when used properly, tend to activate the sympathetic nervous system. You get the most, best of both worlds, think of those points. What's the difference between an acupuncture point and a reflex point? An acupuncture point is like a tornado; it goes counterclockwise and limited like a mosquito. What is a high-pressure system? It goes clockwise. You notice at the weather systems when they turn counterclockwise, they're tornadoes, hurricanes, things like that. I have a tornado. Uh, so basically, if you're doing uh, acupuncture, it's the mosquito technique. If you're doing reflexology, it's the fly technique. Ever feel what a fly feels when they walk on your skin? How they activate your skin and liven it? So it's a fly technique. So when you tickle a point or pinch it or pull it, you get more results out of the out of the reflex point, which is sometimes as big as a nickel. Well, an acupuncture point can only be as big as a BB. Big difference. Anyway, for constipation, the other thing is along the sides of your legs; you have to flash a lot of muscles, and there are long muscles, almost like bands into the muscles along the outer thighs. You simply rub them, rub them really hard, and then reach behind your back, and when you reach behind your back, you activate it. And I've had a person that couldn't go to the bathroom for five days, and they they had to excuse themselves from the uh—actually, I work on the floor, so I can't say a table—I got used to like—she also, you know, work on the floor; she had to get up and run to the bathroom to go to the go to the bathroom. It's so effective, just working the fascia ladder. The other muscle is the wiggle muscle. Notice how women, their hips work differently; they actually have an advantage for going to the bathroom because that jiggles the contents of the stomach when they take a walk after eating, and it also activates the colon. Most people, if they feel behind their back—this is something interesting—take a little oil on your hands, olive oil, and rub right above the hip bones. Many people will find phoebes in there; it's calcified lymph glands. Some of them will be have about 30 of them, and they will be as big as large marbles or large ball bearings. Those interfere with digestion, and that that point, those reflex points, are common to the large intestine, the circulation sex meridian, and the small intestine meridian. So a lot of people's sex life and poop life lives are compromised by those there, and all they have to do is rub them until those points go away. Some people gouge them out, which I'm more conservative; you just keep rubbing them till they go away gently, and that takes a while, and you can do it yourself or have your partner just rub your back every once in a while until they're dissolved, and then all three meridians—large intestine, small intestine—most of your entire gut and your circulation sex meridian are taken care of. Those those points relate to your index finger, large intestine; pinky finger, small intestine; and circulation sex, middle finger. It's really interesting how that works.

Wow. Um, this is a good one: Mucus in the stool. I know there's a big like mucusless diet thing that's making a resurgence. Uh, why is there so much mucus in the stool? What causes it, and how to fix it?

You don't want to fix it. In fact, you've heard of Gypsy Boots, haven't you? From—he was actually an acquaintance of mine, a remarkable man, but he would say, "Some of you, some of you skinny people could use a little mucus." Yeah, it says, by the way, "mucusless stop," because mucus is like the cops coming to arrest the mother, and then they get blamed for the crime. Every time there's a mugging, a policeman shows up; they must be guilty of the crime. And actually, what about the mother? Well, they forget about the mugger. What is happening in your colon, and what bugs are eating that requires all that extra mucus that comes out? That comes out of our nose and our ears, and excess ear wax is a type of mucus. So uh, mucus is important. If your stool is formed with it, no big problem. Though a healthy person would probably have five percent of dietary fiber come out of their uh, bowels and about 40 of either the mucus or the dead bacteria; that's perfectly normal. We have an ecology going on in our colon, and actually, the appendix is the regulator of it. The cecum is a second stomach, unrecognized by modern science, but you'll find it in third eye, the uh, the uh, whole ecology of—or it's like the ecology of our planet is right in the gut, and it goes from the time from your mouth, your oral cavity, to your anal cavity; is all part of the journey. And so mucus is okay, but if you're having uh, if it's a hindrance where you're having a problem, physical problem, pain, and uh, and mucus coming out of the nose and over spilling the rest of the body, then it's a problem. But if people just tell you that's mucus in your stool, you're probably very healthy. Out of your neck, by the way, this might be important, out of your mouth or your nose. If you blow your nose, a healthy person has clear mucus; it should be transparent. You have a slight problem; it's white. You have a greater problem; it's yellow. You have a greater problem; it's green. And if your mucus is coming out brown, you have a serious problem; you better do something about it or go to a specialist if you don't know enough how to handle it yourself. Brown is a serious infection, and green is is serious, but usually you can back that off with garlic, sugar, a whole bunch of other things, and be curated. That's that's really interesting; that's a cool self-diagnosis.

Um, hemorrhoids. Uh, we had a—and I get this question a lot; it seems to be like another epidemic, like hemorrhoids, and how to take care of those things.

Hemorrhoids. Yes. Supposedly Napoleon lost the battle of Waterloo over hemorrhoids. Is not true, but it is a fiction, and it could happen. And uh, another person afflicted with it was Martin Luther. A lot of people have had problems, and I got mine uh, in an interesting way. At one point, I wrote—during the during the hippie days—I wrote Richard Nixon on my draft; I I signed up for my draft card, but I said uh, I wish you a case; I wish Nixon would get a case of hemorrhoids, and I got one. So we have a mental thing, and uh, and the second time, then they went away. Uh, but the second time, uh, I I had an ex-girlfriend; she got married to someone else, very jealous guy. So I just happened to see her in the restaurant, and I went in, and I I said hi, and so she looks out the window, and sure enough, her husband drives up, thinking we're meeting at the restaurant. So I got so mad seeing him out there berating her in the car and lecturing her and accusing her, then I walked out, and I said, "If anyone, I I hit him," roll down the window, and then I said, "If anyone tells you you're a bleep, you believe him." And so then I went and kicked a post and felt something give away, and so then I had anal fees and fissures for a while and was treating them with sits back and everything. The real cause, physiological uh, cause of hemorrhoids is the portal system; it's a liver problem. So I got rid of them finally by cleaning up my liver, and when you clean up your liver, then they'll go away because the portal system is intimately associated. That's why people take coffee enemas so they can get up into the liver system indirectly because the liver gets poisons; they rotate between the colon and the liver until they get taken care of. And every time, if you can get it out in one bowel movement, then you don't build up the toxic products, including tryptophan, indulge, skatoles, cadaverines; all these poisons build up in the colon. So it's wise to have three bomb boomers a day. You can be healthy with one, but when a doctor tells you, "Oh, it's normal to have one every two or three days," I don't believe them. Out in nature, there's a lot of animals have 10 or 15 bowel movements a day, you know, depending on—some have 50, but that would be too much for a human being, definitely; you wouldn't be able to get anything done. [Laughter] Yeah, more time. You know, one thing that a Donald Lay stressed, he said, "It's better to be lucky than smart," though. So he said the important thing is like a caterpillar; know how to eat the foods, and then you will evolve, including your brain, into that without any thinking about it. And if you notice how many people uh, evolved by school and how many people evolved by accident, look at these people like the case of the piano player; they got this so-called child, and they figured, "Well, we'll play some music," so they played uh, "Bachelor Bait Element," so they went to bed, and uh, they they the wife said to the husband, "Did you leave the recording on?" "No, I didn't." So they went out there, and the kid I crawled up on the piano and note for note was playing the music, and then he went out to perform because he could just look at it. A lot of great composers, Mozart and things, they could see the whole sympathy—it's symphony—in their head, and they just write it down really quickly. Uh, it's been done with famous poems too, under opium and sometimes just under creativity. Uh, also there was an artist, a boy who took a—they gave him some clay to work on therapeutically; he made perfect structures and was selling his sculptures of clay for 150,000 in art museums. And look at the recent case in Denver; a guy is just a regular guy; he he jumps in the swimming pool; unfortunately, there was no water in the pool, so he had a slight problem and a concussion. When he wakes up, he's a genius; he can do all kinds of mathematical problems to the nth degree and the square root of this and the square root of that. That also happened to someone else recently; he was beat up by a gang and then ended up with the same ability. So what is intelligence? That we can get it, according to a Donald, a intelligence is in the air; all you have to do is have a tuner like a variable capacitor on a radio and tune it in. Why use a tape recorder when we have every radio station in the universe available for us? And he certainly could do that and improved it many times.

Wow. Um, this is a question: Donald dropped out of school in kindergarten, by the way. His first day, said, "They can't teach me what I wanted to know," so his father said, "Well, then go to work." That's so awesome.

Um, so parasites. This is a really good one because I used to be obsessed; I think this is the reason why I was fruitarian and vegan, raw vegan for so many years. I I had chopsticks and tweezers going on the toilet, and I had my vials; freaked my parents out, and I was just obsessed with like capturing these critters. And it was actually like a month ago or so, my cat, I saw white worms crawling around her anus, and I later found out it was a species of tapeworm called Tania. I guess that's like a common Tania something, but they can get it from eating infected rodents, which there are here in my house. So yeah, just your thoughts on parasite cleansing, because I know there's probably a balance where it's not everything to like keep cleansing constantly, but it seems like a real issue, right?

It is a real issue. In fact, about 85 uh, people have some kind of a parasitic organism in them. Uh, are very mitochondria; that's a parasite originally, at least that's a it's a dominant theory; probably 95 percent of people believe that, and there's a lot of evidence. It just showed up one day, and now we can't move a muscle without the mitochondria. Other parts of our body, Dr. Koch, he said that cancer was an incipient organ that eventually will give us superpowers, and uh, and but we treat it as a disease instead of letting it do what it can. Uh, I don't always say the same thing by location. All these things are a product of cancer. Now there's a lot of evidence toward that, even though it sounds really woo-woo, but there is evidence toward that. Uh, parasites. I prefer the method of Samuel Hahnemann, the homeopathist. He basically, back in 1801 or so, uh, realized that heroic medicine or purging, either through the mouth and medics, purgatives uh, whatever it was, either to make you sweat, to make uh, you let blood out, let stool out, let urine out, let this out, diuretics, all that kind of stuff, wasn't working; that it just was symptomatic, and you actually cause damage to your body rather than to the parasite, even though some parasites would come out, but they'd be winning the war because they could multiply. And so he recommended homeopathy, or at least clinging up the gut and making the environment where it was so healthy they had nothing to feed on. And there's a lot of truth to that. I think purges can help certain things; they're unpleasant; they they don't like—garlic is one; I don't know if you've heard this one, and I've heard people swear it's the truth, that if you take garlic in your mouth and then put a bowl of warm milk at your butt and just lie down, that a tapeworm will come out for the melt, and that actually come out of the anus to get the milk. Well, obviously, there's things that tapeworms don't like; one of them is the the uh, there's the inside of a walnut, a walnut hole, they call it, not the shell, but the hull; they often sell it; that can work. Tequila is an excellent uh, parasite remedy, and uh, let me think what else is—I'll think of the third thing in a while, but tequila and pineapple juice at night with aloe vera will actually get rid of—tequila, you get rid of parasites, and you you drink enough for your brain's sake—I mean, for your body's sake, not your brain safe. All you need is a shot glass to get rid of a tapeworm and some other parasites, though you must do it for 28 days. If you'll notice, many parasites are on the lunar cycle; they actually follow it. Uh, Columbus, when he discovered this country, the beach, the the water lit up because uh, certain animals mate only at one time, so these luminous animals came to the surface and told them, "Hey, there's land nearby," so he knew before he spotted the land. Here in California, we have the grunion runs; you're probably familiar with that, being from California too. At one point, the grunion, they come at the time of the moon. Well, parasites follow the same type of pattern. So to do that, you'd pick a particular time of day, and you do it uh, consistently for 30 days to make sure then you you kill the parasite, the eggs, and reduce the amount of infection, and usually those things kind of work. If it's a really serious point, then I'd go rate pizza out, get a uh, get an antibiotic at that point, and then clean up the mess that the antibody antibiotic makes if the parasites bad. Uh, I'll tell you a story that happened to a friend of mine in El Paso. She calls me up, and she says, "Hey, I I'm Mexican, and they told me that I have Crohn's disease. How can that be? Because it pretty much happens in the Middle East; that's more used to be more common." So I called up my uh, mentor, Adam Lay, and said, "She's got uh, she's got Crohn's disease," and he said, "Nope, she's got pinworms in her smaller inner ceiling." So I hung up and I looked it up and said, "They can go into the heart." So I I call them up again; "They can go into the heart." "Donald, is that going to be serious?" He said, "No, they're not interested in her heart." So so anyway, she goes to the doctor; it's spin worms, and so they give her an antibiotic, and she's fine; all of her symptoms—and she had numerous symptoms—went away. But for people who don't want to do that and they want to first experiment, uh, I would even advise—and I'm going to do this generally; I'm not going to recommend it as a as a cure for anything because you get in trouble giving a medical diagnosis—but as a general rule, and I've done it that way, I take some walnut holes in the morning, three capsules; I break them open, and I put them in my juice, and then midday—what did I—I'm thinking what what did I take at midday? That's what's missing. Hmm, the night, Thomas, tequila and pineapple juice. I hope before the show ends I'll think of what I took at midday because it was something I took at midday, and it just blank right now, and I've done it so many times, and out for lunch, maybe some fruit. Uh, I I think I might have asked you in a previous show, but uh, tobacco. Now a lot of my guests, I bring up that I enjoy cigars here and there, and I never ever do it daily, but I mean, the Farmer's Almanac, they used to give give tobacco leaves to like pigs, swine, as a as a fugitive, and I think it's the nicotine that's a pesticide and an insecticide. Have you looked into like tobacco's effects? And it's my understanding, smoking it—

Even isn't anti-parasitic; that's my, my current belief. My first introduction to nicotine was from R.J. Reynolds himself, for the tobacco company. He was a Sufi; I did soupy work with him in at his, uh, the Reynolds family estate in North Carolina, and, uh, spent a month up there and, uh, got to know him. He, he died of lung cancer from smoking, by the way, and ended up dying at the soupy camp in Taos, New Mexico. But he told me as a child, uh, if you got a bee sting, put tobacco on it; pain goes away just like that. So as a medicine, it's good to take, uh, despite them saying, "Oh, the tobacco's okay; it's the additives and all of that." There's some truth in that, but the tobacco itself is a poison because nicotine is—many people who watch CSI, either the Las Vegas version or the other, they come across nicotine as being the gardener's poison of choice. That is a deadly—fortunately, uh, in, in tobacco, you have a very tiny amount of it, so it can be actually stimulative, and it can actually keep you from getting Alzheimer's disease, but at a price. It's called lung cancer, COPD, all these different syndromes you get off of it. So I don't recommend it. However, as a tonic, maybe once a month you smoke it, uh, one cigarette, and that's it—once a month, at the time of the full moon, and it can actually be therapeutic for people. I've done that myself, uh, to experiment, while coughing a lot of course while I was doing that. So anything, you know, can be used as a medicine in certain ways, and cigarettes, uh, they can be used as a medicine.

I like that, yeah. And I think there's something you've said about cigars versus tobacco versus cigarettes. Usually the cigarettes, even American Spirit, they put some questionable stuff in there. Yeah, I think cigars are pure, you know. Even during the Cuban crisis, JFK managed to get his cigars from Cuba; the rest of us could go to prison, but he got them anyway. So there's a whole other thing goes on that we're not privileged to do, obviously. Um, this is a good subject: leaky gut. And I think a few people asked just healing—how long does it take? That's—I noticed there's, uh, my research—there's different things that kind of punch holes in the gut. I don't know if that's a simplistic way of saying it, but glyphosate and certain things will like poke holes in the intestinal tract, so like undigested food particles seep into the bloodstream. Is that real?

They do, and, uh, and that's very important to not have that. See, when you go into the capillary system, you're going into the blood system. Endotoxins aren't that toxic in the colon; they can cause colic and things like that, but they mainly cause problems in the blood. It's called sepsis, and very dangerous. So the medical profession doesn't really care about the, uh, the endotoxins in your gut if they should—rape—does. But when they get in your blood, then it's called sepsis, and you're dying. Often, back in the day, how did they treat sepsis? They heated the human body, and this is going to sound unbelievable to your audience; it did to me when I first heard it. They heat the human body to 300 degrees Fahrenheit. How do they do that without killing them? Number one, they don't; they, they keep the head out; they put the rest of the body, and they treat it to dry heat because the person can't be sweating because you'll boil the skin, and they treat it very briefly, but that high heat therapy actually would cure sepsis, which nothing else was doing. Because back then, sepsis—that's called death. He's all that good; might as well just call it death and get it over—people died, but they saved people back then, and it was being done in 1910 and 12, and now it's brought back as pyrotherapy, but it's really wimpy. Supply a little more heat, run the blood through some heat or something—that's not enough heat to do it, but back then they could. How could they do that back then? I've gone in medical books and seen the illustrations of people who use machines in an osteopathic library, uh, in Fort Worth, Texas. So it existed, uh, but anyway, uh, leaky gut, uh, is caused by being too alkaline. Strangely enough, acidity builds muscle tissue structure; alkalinity breaks us down. Now, why would we want to break down? Well, imagine if all of your cells stayed alive; it'd be a traffic jam. They have to be—catabolism breaks them down and builds them up, and so we need to break it down, but too much breaking down, you get leaky, uh, gut syndrome, leaky lung syndrome, leaky liver syndrome, leaky heart syndrome—all of that. And of course, one way to get leaky gut: omega-3 fatty acids. God, we almost got through a whole show without mentioning yellow fat disease. How can that be? Yeah, because yeah, they're a major cause of leaky gut syndrome because the lipophilic iron doesn't do very well for the gut either, by the way.

Interesting. Yeah, because I think people don't understand like lipofuscin—that you've written like 11 books on now, at least—like that accumulates everywhere, right, including the entire—12. Well, wow, then what—oh, it accumulates everywhere like lipofuscin. I mean, it hits the brain, right, and causes Alzheimer's, dementia, but it'll also kind of coat the intestines, you know. It causes just about everything, and it—because I finally—I have to stop at some points; I stopped at the 12th book to control myself from going on because since then I've found so many symptoms like Crohn's disease. Crohn's disease is actually brown bowel syndrome, which if they call it that until it gets to a certain place, then it's Crohn's disease. It's yellow fat disease. Ground balance syndrome is another word for yellow fat disease. If you go into Alzheimer's, muscular dystrophy, muscular sclerosis, mixed dementia, regular dementia, old age dementia—all of these—there are yellow fat disease. Basically, we get accumulated with a bunch of junk that is living—if not—doesn't just stand there in the corner like in a crowded, uh, building, but it actually is aggressive; it's more like living things that come and bite your ankles while you're on the computer; it just doesn't sit there passively. And many times a person that makes 100, they have as much as 75 to 80 to 90 percent lipofuscin in their cells—that, that's a lot. There's not much space in that cell to do any, uh, mitochondrial work or energy production or, uh, DNA—whatever; it's all compromised. So it's a major cause of disease, and I could go on and on. Since then, I've found so much research, and I have to tell Vibrant Gal, okay, control me now; don't let me, don't let me write this down; don't let me start another book, please. But yeah, it's a major, a major thing. And three of the, of the seven deadly sins of aging, uh, that, uh, what's his name now? I need to think of his name. He's like Aubrey de Grey. Yes, Aubrey de Grey. Thank you. The Aubrey de Grey, uh, break the seven deadly sins of age; it's three of them—two of them common sense—the, uh, like of us get outside the cell and inside the cell, but the so-called, uh, sugar, the age, uh, generated, uh, pigments, terminalization—basically, it turns out to be lipofuscin, not that at all; it's been misnamed so they can blame sugar rotation. Oh, avoid the sugar. They've been talking about sugar gives you cancer, which it certainly does not. In fact, Ray Peat talks of cases of being cured of cancer by sugar. Yeah, that it's so fascinating because I—it took me like eight years to get to this place of—or eight or nine years—of not being afraid of sugar and going back to what you said about the liver—like hemorrhoids; you said it's a liver problem—because my theory is that a lot of the benefits to sugar is that it's feeding the liver, which then could clean the blood and deactivate poisons—like it's really liver support, right? When we're talking about sugar, you know, the liver is such an underrated organ; it does over 500 things in textbooks, and I have no idea what about 300 of those are that it does, you know. I'd have to be a liver specialist to know, but it's such a remarkable organ that you can lose 20—you know, you can be down to 20 of it, and it will regrow, but it will regrow to its exact size. And they've even experimented by, by having one liver be shared with two animals, and it grows back to the size—to—these are cruel experiments, but then they—it shares both animals; it has a set point that you can't grow it any larger. Well, there's a case—I personally know somebody who had a child in the hospital with one percent liver function, so they were keeping her alive in other methods, and they said there's no way—20—there have been cases, but she's on the—she either gets a new liver or she dies. Well, her father and her had a, uh, reconciliation—lots of crying—and her liver grew back, and she was out jogging a month later with no liver transplant. I haven't heard—I think she's still alive and feisty, and that happened I don't know 15 years ago or so. So, so you know the liver again is a—it's a miracle organ. It's very much like a placenta; it has no real shape. People talk about the liver looks like this, has so many lobes—no, it can have five, it can have seven, it can have two, it can have multiple lobes; it's pretty much anything it wants to do.

That's awesome—the shape shifter. Um, this is a good one: Does, does socializing improve your stool and intestinal function—like going out and talking to people? Yes. So you're socializing with people. Yeah, they're messing with people's vows by keeping people separate—again, I won't go into that subject—but, but, uh, yeah, uh, when people, uh, don't have connections with people, uh, they tend to get sick in a variety of ways, and it definitely will affect their colon. The colon is one of the first things to be affected, and that's why when they started investigating psychosomatic syndromes, that was easy; they could see it quite quickly. The skin and the colon were the two most things—hypnotists could actually hypnotize a person and get acne on their chest—to write their name on it with hypnosis—and then hypnotize it to go away. So obviously, skin and colon both have that capacity. You can give a person colitis and take it away with hypnotism and mesmerism; it's been done for centuries, and doctors don't want you to know that. Oh, no. By the way, there's a definition: Psychological means you think you have a disease, and you have all the symptoms, but you don't really have a disease; those are easy to cure. Psychosomatic means your mind gives you the disease; it's a physical disease. If you let that last too long, it takes more mind power to get rid of it if it's first started. That's why I know people have gotten rid of cancer by just changing their, their attitude or finding out who is the matter with—because it's often who is the matter with us. Very few people have a problem with an—it—like how many people do you know—I, I slipped on this third step of my house, and I don't care if it takes the rest of my life, I'm going to get even with that third step. But I see people say the same thing about their boss, their ex-spouse, their mother, their father—years later they're still mad at them, and I cannot forgive that person. But not a stupid—that's a really good evening. Well, usually—I take that back—but they project on it. Captain Ahab lost his left leg because it was the Moby Dick, not the Moby Jane, but Moby Dick, and Boomer, one of the whalers, he lost his left arm to the whale too—his left arm—and, and Ahab had a peg leg because it was a male trauma. So we don't acknowledge usually that you have a male trauma—it's on the left side of your body and a female on their right side. In fact, psychology wants to reverse it, and polarity therapy wants to reverse it, but anyone who experiments with mind hacking will find out it's just like I'm telling you—it's left and right.

Wow. Do you think holding on to any emotion can cause intestinal issues, or is it specific ones like anger or grief or fear? Some of those—all affect different—like I think fear's the lungs, anger's the liver. Yeah, it has to do with holding on, and it's interesting; this ties in with that question, uh, what about social distancing? Do you know the ability to be alone is what the colon represents? They used to pick astronauts by the size of their colon; they knew that a person with a larger colon had more of a capacity to be alone in space. I mean, imagine being up there for a year with only two people—you talk about being locked in with your relatives or something like that—people you don't even know—you know, have different habits, uh, so yeah, it's the ability for, uh—longest—I've also found it's moving traumas. If a person—in fact, my one day of constipation had to do with transportation; I'm not going into my specific trauma, but it had to do with the ability to go someplace that I couldn't go to for legal reasons, and so it bothered me so much that for a whole day I was constipated—for one day.

Oh, automatically leaving—I'm still here. Yep, okay, we're back. They're doing little notices—figure we're overdoing it or something. But anyway, moving traumas—the other one is attachment dramas. Freud called this, uh, what did he call it? He, he attributed it—brightly gold with species—they used to call it gold and feces. So people who accumulate money and have to hold on to it and can't let go of it often have constipation or hemorrhoids or something like that. And, uh, the anal type—Freud talked about—have two types: One—spend it all, get rid of it as fast as possible—the diarrhea effect—or hold on to it, and that's the constipation. In our country, uh, we're taught by our system, uh, hold on to it because you might not get it again. I studied with a man named Greg Whiteley out of Austin and now out of Idaho, and he told me the thing about money is if you hold up a dollar bill, it's finite, but if you spend it and someone bought it—spends it—someone else—else outside—goes on—it's infinite at that point; it can go on forever by spending it. Now, of course, the tax system kind of interferes with that idea, but if it wasn't for that, it would be totally infinite because it would be spent. So when money moves in flow, it's infinite; when it just is stored, it's not infinite; it's finite. And the secret of, of—as all the money masters have talked about—is being able to let go—not let go on credit because if you let go on credit, that's not fake—that's facing credit—not in flow—but you should be able to let it go, and then the money exactly comes to you. And I think on some of my prior shows—I won't repeat those stories—but it's happened to me—just like when you need it.

That's a really great point. Yeah. Okay, I will tell one that I haven't told before. I had a, uh, I had a desk, and I was doing iridology with a slit lamp, and I wanted my desk in my bedroom to be out there to do iridology on people, but then I wouldn't have a desk, so I said, I'm gonna manifest a desk—the heck with it—I'll figure it out later. So I start to drag that desk out to the living room, and suddenly I hear beep beep—horn beeps—and it's my girlfriend, and she says, "Hey, uh, do you want a desk?" I said, "Well, yeah, I want a desk." He says, "My boss is giving one away," and, uh, and she—"I'm just giving it to the Goodwill or whatever," and so I thought maybe you'd want it. Yeah, okay, come with me. So we went and picked it up in her bigger, larger car, and I moved a really big black—black desk—a big thing—into my living room, and I, I had—I had to drag the rest of the, the other desk out of the way to make room to get it in. Now, that's manifestation.

That's incredible. Wow. Um, this is why it's hard for me to believe in what's called, uh, sequential matter. I believe in synchronicity because I've had too much of that stuff happen to me over my life.

Yeah, absolutely. Our bodies—does our bodies slow down the amount of digestive enzymes that we make as we age? That's something I've heard a lot. Uh, massage the right side of your body—just about any place—but if you pick the colon points—you know, again, the right side is for the absorption—in the webbing between the index finger and the other—you could rub just the fascia—lotta—you can rub, uh, actually it gets tricky in the back; it reverses. See, actually to absorb it, you go to the back of the left side. See, we're in polarity three ways—back and forth on either side. Now, when I talk about left and right traumas, I'm going from the feet and the motor movements to not confuse anybody, but I'm getting them from the back of the body to rebound because where does the brain start? At the, at the lip—isn't that the brain governor meets the, meets at the bottom—the so-called, uh, conception meridian—they meet right there. So everything from the, the nose back in the back of the body—so I'm measuring the back of the body in the front of the body and getting left and right. The feet will never let you down; otherwise, you can get kind of confused—like is this wrist—is it male or female? Is that wrist part of the back or the—you know, things reversed. I hit the front of my body here, and, uh, and the front of my body here, and yet the polarity is completely different. So, uh, basically, you work the front of your body to absorb on the right, and then you move—you massage the left side on the back and the shoulders on back to the leg, and that actually does it throughout the whole body; it, it absorbs everything—lung enzymes, pancreatic enzymes, liver enzymes—whatever you want—you can just generally do that.

That's awesome. Oh yeah, I've been getting back into getting regular massages and like deep tissue, and, uh, you know, she'll find a point—super skilled—where she'll just dig in, and it's like a knot or something. I just feel like what you're saying makes me think that's—regular massages are so important because it's, it's kind of working everything right—like more than you think.

Yeah, it—they shouldn't go over an hour because you overstimulate the parasympathetic nervous system, and then always at the end, you'll notice a massage therapist usually does a light thing to put you back in sympathetic tone; otherwise, you'd be too relaxed. And when you're being massaged, you're actually over alkaline and, and susceptible to diseases as well as psychic abilities, by the way. So you always want to finish with that tone up, and it's always good to do something like skin brushing after a massage, then you don't have—you leave the—any of the side effects of the massage behind by activating the skin. If you had a whole bunch of flies walking all around you, it would be perfect—the same type of thing. You ever see these head stimulators? It's like an egg beater, and you just rub it on your head lightly—anything light like that after massage—then the massage actually does a lot of good because you have to, to dig out some of those points, and not to have to go in together, but when you do it, sometimes you leave a bigger knot behind that goes reflexologically to somewhere else unless you don't have a strategy to go back to sympathetic tone and dermalogic tone—that's the other companion to the sympathetic nervous system.

That's awesome. Yeah, I noticed sometimes—another example—after massage, put yourself in life flow, uh, left hand down, right hand out slowly—ideally seven times—and then—and you hold your hands downward; you don't go across like that. The meridians follow your fingers or your zones, so you go down on the left, up on the right simultaneously very slowly, and that will actually energize, uh, your, uh, like flow, which makes you less susceptible to accidents. When I drive with somebody who's a bad driver, I reach over and do it from the back—left and right—because it reverses in the back, so it's the same motion—I make—left hand up, right hand down—and then put them in life flow because I'm protecting my life; I'm in the car with them, so if they crash that car, I'm going to be the victim too. Life flow is very important. A lot of people—

May be surprised that the military uses it. They use, they use magnetic flow as the other way. They, they run the meridian down. They can't accept acupuncture, so they call it splitting the optical field. I was shown that by a Texas Highway Patrolman. He knew a lot about applied kinesiology. He said they call it control techniques and abilities. I started looking up control techniques. The military, most police forces, and sheriff's departments are well aware of it, and they know that woo-woo stuff, but they're not going to tell people because you can walk up to somebody and just put your hand down once and weaken them. So my, my uh, highway patrol friend, he didn't go up and go up to the person and go down, down, down, "I'm weakening you." He'd say, "Could I see your driver's license, please?" and casually move his arm down, and it would weaken the person dramatically. You can experiment that. Depending on how much she, a person, it uh, it uh, will uh, weaken. And I've seen people say, "I can hold my Tai Chi," uh, my Tai Chi teacher showed me how to center myself, and you can't do that. I've, one out of a hundred can do it. Most of them are just uh, they think they can do it, and they can't. They'll weaken. But there is a trick: when the cop does that to you, jump off the ground. The polarity reverses, and you're not weak. So they might think it's strange that you jump off the ground. [Laughter] They wouldn't know what you're doing, though. That's not in the police manual. Yeah, what um, I don't know if you've ever, you probably—it sounds like you've been everywhere—you probably have. But one time I went to try to see my friend up in Northern California, in the Emerald Triangle, where they grow a bunch of weed up there. He was a trimmer, and he worked on a farm. And I was driving my Prius, and I, I kind of was speeding and like taking the turns really fast because it was the middle of nowhere. I was just trying to get there before dark, and I got pulled over by the uh, by the uh, you know, the people trying to bust people for drugs. I had long, kind of longish hair at the time, and they made me get out of the car, and uh, they thought I was smuggling cannabis, you know, to, you know, in or out. And um, yeah, I, I just kept stayed calm, and they ended up letting me go. But like uh, I can't remember the name of those people, but they are, they're always up in NorCal kind of trying to bust growers and stuff. But uh, yeah, it's interesting. Wow, their tactics. [Laughter] Intimidation. Interesting. Some of that faded, by the way. I heard most of it, but you faded. Okay, good. Yeah, the audio is a little weird. Maybe they're trying to um, trying to censor us here talking about poop. Someone, you know, a lot of things we don't hear. I used to do a lot of hitchhiking back in the day, and one time, one day, and pick up hitchhikers. So one day I picked this guy up, and he told me, you know, they uh, and I won't name the fight, the fire, because they get in trouble, but there was a fire, and it made the news in L.A. big time. It was started when they burned down his marijuana field, and it got out of control and formed this huge forest fire. So they told him, "You don't tell on us, we don't arrest you," and then let them go. So there's a lot of things we hear on the news that are not really true. That's funny. Um, what about squatting versus sitting? Someone asked that because I, I use like the little Squatty Potty thing, and I know just elevating your feet like that became big. I think it was like five or six, maybe longer years ago. There's a company that made the little stool that you can press up on your toilet because if you're sitting normally on the throne, then your colon's kinked. Is that right? Is that true? Or in India, the pot is on the floor. You just squat down like that. So yes, it makes sense. I have friends that are in the colonic business and the Squatty Potty business. When one is in Austin, he's, he uh, the Chinese don't like colonic machines, but they like his Angel Water. I think it's Water of Angels or Angel Water. They like his machine. So he's got the only colonic machine allowed into China. He sells colonic machines in this country, and you have to have a medical doctor back it up, which is really hard because they don't accept it. Every other country, about 18 countries, it's ordered by the MDs, but not in the United States. I find that fascinating. The Water Angel, I think he calls it, and definitely he's, he, I, he gave me two uh, squat uh, those Squatty Potties back in the day uh, when uh, when he was, it when I traded a workshop for it uh, and we have one in our bathroom here too. Yeah, they work. Have you ever heard of someone having like their own personal colonic machine in their house? Or yes, uh, my friend Jimmy Girard, who made probably the best colonic machine in the world until the Texas government put him out of business by fining them several thousand dollars a day because they suddenly decided they didn't like a lot of machines in Texas uh, he uh, sold one. The last time I saw him, he'd gone up to Northern California and sold a colonic machine for personal use to a 101-year-old monk. One of the most unusual people. He brought videos back of this guy. This guy, he was in the zone. He was something else. But he gave himself, he showed him how to use the colonic, and he gave himself his own colonic in the privacy of his monk thing and uh, because he knew that it actually could extend his lifespan. So there it is. Yeah, he did it himself, and you can do it yourself. When I was a colonic therapist, I would give colonics to myself. We would have a two-hour lunch hour, and I would do it. I had one guy come to me and say, "I don't feel anything. I thought you're supposed to get high doing this." And it's really mostly a myth. But at one point I was giving myself a colonic with a type of machine where you can actually do a yoga shoulder stand on the table. So I'm doing a yoga uh, shoulder stand, and the humor of having this thing up my butt while I was doing it struck me, and I broke into peroxisms of laughter for about 10 minutes, and I realized I was clearing an emotional trauma. I'll tell you another story. There was a a woman who had a trauma, and I advised her to get a colonic. Well, every time I go to tell her that, I would be, "No, no, I, I, I was working for her cognitive trauma. What, what set it off?" So my friend kept interrupting me, "You need a kilometer, you need a collat…" So on a hunch, I muscle uh, tested her, and you can actually do this. I asked a silent question, "Should I pursue what I'm telling?" and the muscle blew out. Then I said, "Should you get a colander?" It was strong. So they asked me, "What are you doing, huh?" "Just doing a test." So anyway, she goes in for the collide uh, I'm alone in the restaurant part of the clinic that a Donald Lay had. I hear her screaming and yelling and a bunch of sobbing going on. And so she finishes a colonic. I'm the only one in the restaurant. She comes out and she sits across from me and she says, "I was anally raped," and I was, "Holy cow!" Now, if I'd found that trauma, but see, she re-experienced it with the colonic. So that's why the muscle testing told me, "Don't mess with it. Don't pick the fruit until it's ready to fall off in your hand." And she actually was anally raped, and so that was basically it, brought up the whole trauma. Uh, the therapist of Donald knew how to go through color cycling and yawning and stretching and all the things you need to do to help process that type of trauma. Wow, that's incredible. Um, this is a good one. My partner and I eat the same, why does he have more gas than me? I heard the first part of that. Oh, uh, why does he have more gas than his last part got cut off. In other words, one is having different results. Yeah, yeah. I guess her partner has more gas, he's more gassy, but they're eating the same foods. More trauma, and also there's a lot that happens between the mouth and the colon. One of them, first of all, is, does, how often does one chew the food? Is one chewing 52 times, 100 times, and one five times? Is one getting sufficient saliva in there? Are they, and the saliva might be from a particular food. So they might be thinking they're eating the same much, but are they eating the same amount of food? Are they using the same amount of condiments? Does one like cayenne pepper and one doesn't? Does one like salt and one doesn't? All kinds of things, and then emotional trauma, as I explained. I gained 10 pounds by sleeping in a culvert overnight. That is what the trauma was. Hey, I had a rough day that day, and I came home 10 pounds heavier. I met a woman that said I gained 30 pounds in one month, and it turned out to be she didn't accept her new uh, son's uh, wife, and she was so traumatized by it. She fell down the stairs, and when she fell down the stairs, she entered some kind of point obviously, and she gained 30 pounds in one month. So trauma can inflate you like a balloon, and then you can get rid of the trauma and deflate yourself. Same reason I don't gain weight because I, I've learned to deal with trauma. I punch paper bags, I kick paper bags, I scream and yell. In my life, I've had two potential heart attacks. I had the symptom in my finger, I had the chest pains and everything. I was under extreme stress. What did I do? I screamed, I screamed and yelled. I was in a car one time driving across the desert with all of my possessions in an open pickup truck worrying about rain and everything, and the engine light comes on and says, "Danger, danger, danger." So I'm thinking, "Oh my god, if I leave the car out in the middle, all my stuff is going to be gone. My, my notes, my everything, it's going to be gone." So I started having the symptoms of a heart attack, so I started screaming and yelling and yawning and opening my mouth, rubbing my chest and everything, backed it right off. So most heart attacks are actually gas. Gas pressure gets in there, and then you have actual damage. Then you have embolisms and all that stuff that goes with it after the damage is done from not getting the correct amount of oxygen and carbon dioxide to the area. First heart attacks are almost invariably gas attacks, and what do you do anytime you're having something like that? Start screaming and yelling your head off and make yourself… I've done it twice, and a friend of mine at 28, he had a heart attack, and he beat his own chest on the way down to the floor and brought himself to consciousness and never went to the doctor. And after that he ate uh, what was he eating? Um, have to think of this particular grain that's really good for the kidneys. Kidneys provoke a lot of heart attacks, by the way. They're related to the heart. Uh, the ear, you notice the ear looks like a kidney, and they say that's a heart attack line. You'll find a heart attack line in people's earlobe. It's actually a kidney line, and the kidney is a shunt. You'll have underdeveloped ears as a sign of a heart problem. And the ears and the kidneys, they relate because the kidney is a shunt to the heart, not the other way around. Wow, that's cool. Healthy kidneys, it's going to be hard to have a heart attack. That's awesome. What about candida? That's not just focused on the gut because it can spread its like tendrils throughout the body, right? But a lot of people are confused about candida and what do you mean sugar for candida? Yeah, immunity and rape, pretty much. I agree with repeat over the, over the years. He said, says that candida becomes aggressive uh, if you don't feed it sugar. It's regular food, and so then it comes in and forms tendrils. They have a specific name actually in candida speak, and they go into your, start eating you instead of the garbage in your intestines. And according to a Donald A, they actually prevent cataracts by having candida, but it's when it gets colonized. H. pylori is a natural part of everybody's body, so is candida. It's when it gets out of control from reduced immunity and immunity challenges that stuff happens. So here's the point: when they started that no sugar business, I had a girlfriend back in the day, and she went on a candida cleanse, and they gave her this diet, and then that didn't work. So she told me, "I'm going on a more limited one," and finally, after three or four years of this and getting worse and worse uh, she said, "I don't know what to do. They want me to just eat rice. That's all, nothing else. I can't do this," and she storms out the health food store. She comes back about a couple of months later, and she's looking healthy and vibrant and uh, and she says, "I cured my candida." I said, "What'd you do?" "A Häagen-Dazs bath for three days. Lots of sugar and noggin dies." And so when I first heard, right Pete, I had a good laugh out of that because I thought it was in her head, the hot dog, but actually it's what she needed. The the candida relented and instead of attacking her, ate the yummy ice cream. So anyway, we all have candida, and you just don't want it to colonize, and that's an immunity problem. Having some sour food and some bitter food, you know, Swedish bitters uh, coffee is a bitter food, and even tea is a bitter food. There we go. You hear that? What the English say about Americans? They say, "You Americans are so funny. You make tea for a bitter, and then you add sugar to sweeten it, then you heat it up to make it warm, and then you put ice in to make it cold." Anyway, but it's bitter, and bitters are important. Theobromine and chocolate, theaflavin and tea, caffeine and coffee, they all actually are involved in others. I'm just giving the main chemical component of each of those three. This is one that uh, jumped out to me: hydrogen sulfide, SIBO, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. But she said hydrogen sulfide. I guess if that's in the gut, you know about that uh, that that can cause it uh, not if your bowels are moving on time uh, you will get… See, some people are hydrogen producers, and some are… I forget the exact statistic, but some people can actually put a match when they fart, and they can get a bazooka flamethrower come out of the back end. Other people can't do that. They don't have that, and it seems to be associated with a type of semi-bacteria called archaeons, if you've heard about it. There's a big, there's a big to-do about them now that they can live in volcanic events, and they don't use oxygen to metabolize. They use sulfur, sulfur, and the other one uses methane. And it's interesting that the Swami I studied with before I ever heard about these creatures that live in vents, he claimed that we are actually the product of space aliens, and he said we, as carbon-based uh, beans, were inhabited by silicone-based beans, uh, sulfur-based beans, and methane-based beans. And it fits the old sage Indian myth of the earth's, earth people and the earth sky people and the water people. I mean, I was amazed to study uh, Osage mythology, which fascinated me because it was the same thing. Well, shortly after that, they started to discover that diatoms are silica, and they, they make uh, production out of it, and we actually use silica in our bone. And then they found out that maybe 10 times the protoplasmic mass of the entire earth is sulfate-based bacteria and methane-based bacteria that are under the ground, and that they work that way. One thing that convinced me that maybe it is transformative that came from outer space is that I asked Adano, "Carbon is an element, sulfur is an element, silica is an element, silicon, but what about methane? That's not an element. That's a combination." They said, "Is there an element that goes with that?" And he said, "Magnesium." And so guess what? It turns out that when I studied further over the years, I found out that the, that the metabolism of the sulfur-based uh, bacteria is iron and sulfur, and the magnesium is uh, the magnesium is methane. And so that's your, that's actually what builds our heart chakra is magnesium, strangely enough, if his ideas are true. I, I give you this with uh, you know, you uh, see if you, if it, if it sticks against the wall, keep it. If it doesn't, just let it pass. I find it fascinating, and uh, I'm not sure if I believe in space always or not. We had someone ask a joke here. He said, they said, "Is he a grandpa or just an old fart?" [Laughter] One of my grandsons is now a uh, a celebrity. It's called uh, what's his name? Uh, something… It's So Frosty. That's her first name. It's So Frosty Berkstrom, and he's a champion. And what do you call these type of games? I have video game championships where they have a huge deal. He can just uh, he just rocks on that machine and uh, so he's like a celebrity, the best money maker in the, in that particular game. And my son tried to get him to stop spending all his time on the computer, and now he's really happy that that his son didn't pay attention to him because he's a celebrity. He'll find videos on him on YouTube and everywhere. It's So Frosty. I love it. Have you looked into all the sayings, by the way, like kind of piggybacking on that question? Um, I might cuss here, but like… happens, or they say he's full of… like, is there something to these sayings that people have related to… Hoof… wait… listen to all the… what that they have… Oh, like the sayings that people ha, that we have, like, "He's full of…" or he's, you know, he's uh, you know, happens. I think is the name of one of your chapters in your book. Have you looked into like the sayings? You mean uh… Yeah, well, we can uh, you know uh, trauma and various ways make us poop and pressurization. I don't know if I told you that I go down and touch my car, it makes me poop. A vibrant gal is amazing. In fact, every time uh, I start to go downstairs, she said, "Wait, I have to go to the bathroom. Don't, don't go downstairs," because as soon as I go down to the car, I don't feel like I have to go to the bathroom at all, and suddenly, "Oh my god, I'm running up the stairs as fast as I can to get to the bathroom." Some kind of psychological thing. Car is movement again, a moving drama that tied in with it. And also, I'm real, really sensitive to cold and hot liquids. Makes you go to the bathroom. So I have no problem sometimes going to go on… it's sitting on the pot seven times a day. So, and I'm not sure if that's too much or not. I know we need at least three and maybe four, and I think even Dr. Kellogg, who uh, I'm writing another article from him about how to massage the colon because you can massage it, and it teaches you tricks on how to feel the organs. Like, how do you find your stomach? Drink three-quarters of a glass of water, and then you can hear it gurgle by where you're moving, and you can find its exact borders where the stomach is because the stomach can move as much as a foot, which you, lying down and standing up. And that shows the flexibility. How secure is the stomach there? And there's tricks for finding the ascending, the descending, the transverse colon, and the hardest one, which you can't find, is the uh, what they call the uh, the, the sigmoid colon in that area because the uh, the uh, other parts of the colon often overlap it where you can't get to it. But anyway, you can, they can do more by massaging the colon and finding out by my percussive massage more about what your intestines are than they can with an X-ray or a CAT scan or any of those new things. The old-time doctors, they went by touch. They could tell… Yeah. Oh, here's an example. I bring up, I bring a friend of mine to Donald Lay's, and he's kind of freaked out by him. Says, "Well, I'm going to go now." But then uh, Donald looks…

At him and says, "Well, I know your problem." So, of course, my friend kind of takes that as a challenge. What? And he comes forward, and he touches his—uh, let me see where he touched him—his descending colon, ascending colon, and points to, by the ileocecal valve, and says, "You have a corn chip stuck right there." And he got to treat me because he just had a whole bag of nachos the night before with these corn chips, and and that's when the problem started. So then he went and got a session. So I asked the Donald, "How did you tell that?" So a butcher can feel in the uh, in the uh intestines of an animal and know what's the contents are, or sausage, what kind of meat's in there. I can tell big meat or beef meat or whatever by just feeling it. It still didn't answer how he did it from 15 feet away, but he claimed he could feel with his—line. He's—in fact, he said, "Uh, psychic surgery starts with a hickey." Right? You're taking—you're infecting the outside of the body, comes removes a hickey. Anyone who went to high school and had a girlfriend knows what a hickey is. And he said the beginning of psychic surgery, you just do it from without. And I have met psychic surgeons working in the metaphysical bookstore; some of them legitimate, some of them total fake. But the pig guts and all that stuff, does that—does that apply to cupping as well? So I just had that done recently, like where they do the suction cupping.

Yes. Oh yeah, that's actually it; that's a perfect example of psychic surgery in a way. It's a trick, uh, and it's a reflex point because it sucks up; when you press down, you tend to anesthetize and overstimulate the parasympathetic nervous system. Now you want to do that extreme pain of childbirth; you don't want them to experience that; you want to turn it off, but you want to turn it back on again once you want sympathetic tone in a person and their blood flow to be correct; you use suction like that. So yeah, suction cups are excellent for that. We've messed with that—uh, come to think, we haven't done it for a while, but a few years back we were messing with them. Yeah, they worked. Yeah, I felt great. Um, what about this one? Is kombucha actually good for gut health? A lot of people drink that kombucha. What is it?

Oh, kombucha, like that, you know, the scoby? No, it isn't. No. Yes. No. Well, yes, no, maybe. I agree. I don't agree with Andrew Weil on a lot of things, but I do agree on that: if you have a problem like requires an antibiotic, yeah, then drink it; you might get rid of it, but it's not something to be drinking on a regular, ongoing basis. I tasted it once and figured, "No, not for me." It's getting into the fermented type food category, so it's really not a good idea. But knowing how to make it, if you need it for an antibody combined with garlic, then you get a symbiotic effect, and then it could be useful. So I'm certainly not against it, but it should be used therapeutically and at night, because most of your fungus—fungus grows at night. When I first met Andrew Weil, in fact, he's the first one that told me that you can take a mushroom—look how weak it is—and supposedly at that time they didn't think it had any minerals in it; you can put it under a driveway, and by morning the driveway is cracked; that soft mushroom has gone right through it. And guys, if you want garlic power, that's what the mushroom is; it's the atomic bomb. You notice how a uh, a mushroom looks like an atomic bomb? It is an atomic fraction; it's the four-second lift. When you get a freezing water, it will lift the piling completely out of the ocean in a—a duct; have to be careful, although then gets destroyed by lift. That's called uh, virginity implosion, and a mushroom is a master of rigidity implosion, so it's a very important sex food. Forget olives and all of those, the sardines; they're good, but the mushroom outdoes them all.

Well, I've been doing like fermented noni shots. Uh, have you ever looked into that, like noni? Supposedly it's super cleansing, like the noni fruit. Uh, you know, it's better if you get it uh, fresh, but noni, yes. Uh, a friend of mine is from Kauai, where he uh, he got the noni right off the uh, right off the tree. So yes, there's something uh, to noni definitely. And the supplement form, it just depends on how—how well they make it, but yeah, noni's okay. That's awesome. Yeah, a lot of people don't know that the goji berry is uh, is part of the uh, the uh deadly nightshade family. People who don't—I don't take tomatoes or potatoes because it's not in the macrobiotic diet. What about goji? They think that it's—that's exactly what it is; one of the same family is cayenne and goji. What do you—what are your thoughts on that? Um, on the—yeah, I have a friend that says, "Drink goji tea; don't eat it straight; it's better for you if you brew the goji berries in a hot tea versus eat them by themselves." They're an okay food; there's an argument of whether they're the ones raised pharmaceutically—I mean, raised in rows versus the ones that grow wild. What do they call the other name for it? They have another name for the one, and that's how they differentiate them. Often they get the terms mixed up, but yeah, they're—they're good; the wild one is generally better. Do you know like ginseng—uh, the ginseng that grows wild that they hunt can go for as much as fifty thousand dollars a piece of ginseng, one root. They uh, back in the day it was twenty-five thousand dollars, and now I think it's even raised up uh, more. They're so valued; that's why if you give a substitute of wild ginseng for a planted agricultural one in China, you could get the death penalty for it. It's serious business.

Wow. Let's do a few more questions here. Uh, what is good for prostate health? Uh, one of the things is get over your father trauma inevitably. Uh, just like a uterine problem often has to do with a mother and a woman, and a prostate—father has to do—an egg problem has to do with the father. The other thing, and of course we've discussed this before, I'm a believer in get out the waste products. I'm not a person for seminal retention; the more you get—the more you get it out, the better in my estimation. I've met men who have five ejaculations a day, and they were—they had more cheese than any of these so-called martial artists that I've seen. That guy was awesome. His wife said, "Yeah, five times a day." Yeah, well, turned out to be a gangster, so I stopped hanging out with him. We'll have to dive into that in our—in our sex episode, because uh, that's the big misconception is the whole—of that whole thing, the seminal retention montage thing. Uh, what you say is interesting about a battery; you don't keep a battery charged—like I used to drive an electric car with a lithium-ion battery; you don't want to charge it above 80 percent and keep it there because it'll decrease the life of the battery. I don't know if that translates to humans, but yeah, it's a—it's a rechargeable, and it's—I regard it kind of like a balance, but not as much. And and I don't have that problem when I touch my car. Yeah, the uh, there's two schools of thought and that seminal retention thing. Now, Ahmad, the hugging saint, who's the real deal; I've had experiences with her; she is—she's an amazing woman, uh, but—but she said that you can use seminal retention, but you need someone to direct you to put the energy—most people have no idea what to do with that, and then it's harmful for almost everybody. But—but a person who's trained by yogis, and these are persons that can ex—control the anal sphincter and all the muscles that go around that area; there's multiple muscles there, and there are yogis have control out of all of those muscles. I met a man who could sing with his tailbone and sing with the top of his head with his mouth closed; he could sing; he was a master of Naughty Swami, not a Brahmananada; one of the most amazing yogis I've ever met. Yeah, he could hold his breath for a half hour; they pumped the oxygen out of the oxygen chamber; the monkey died; the candle went out; half hour later, he's fine. I met him personally, and he was a master of Naughty; he went on this cosmic vacation here in uh, yeah, I think the 1990s; amazing man.

I—liked in an interview—I think it was with uh, Justin or something—that you talked about a hyperbaric oxygen and how if you get it—if you get the pressure high enough, you don't need a single red blood cell; the equivalent of 33 feet under the water will do it. And so they used to pressurize hospitals to do that at one point. Uh, now what I would add is Three Percent Carbon—Carbon is a company, and they make carbon dioxide for that very purpose—three percent, five percent, and seven percent. And I think the three percent is better because mining engineers over 100 years ago knew to add that much carbon dioxide to their oxygen when they gave it to prevent caisson diseases and all these other problems they had. So anyone—this country is missing—the world is missing the—the—the action and the healing by simply having every hospital—instead of a cat machine, it's cheaper to have a hyperbaric machine. They have three portable ones in San Diego; they come to your house with a little coffin-like thing. And in the 30s, they had an entire hospital, six stories high, pressurized every room except the corridors in between them, and they were healing people. Uh, but when you add the carbon dioxide or ordinary atmosphere, you take the atmosphere here and pressurize it down, and then you get even better results because Popular Science years ago, in the 30s, found out that you can't keep animals alive on just oxygen and carbon dioxide over an extended period of time without helium, argon—argon—uh, you have skip facing on the other ones, you know, the other—the other gases that are there that we—that we need; they have functions in anatomy that aren't chemical uh, in the same way nitrogen isn't chemical. But why can they give you the bends and all of that? It doesn't interact with things usually in the air, at least; it has to be—lightning has to hit it to activate it, or we have to have a bacteria process it to be able to use it. But—but there are other uses obviously; the inflation of our body and that the so-called gaseous part of ourselves is mostly nitrogen, and then oxygen, and then carbon dioxide is a minor residue that is the control switch for the other gases. That's awesome. Uh, last question here; I think this is a good one. Uh, what does Adam think of taking activated charcoal?

Not much. I differ, you know. Uh, people worry about caramelization; your potatoes are gonna get a little brown, and then they caramelize to the—to the utmost degree. Now, here's the thing, though: when I say "not much," I have some in my medicine cabinet because it's the universal anecdote; almost any poison you can take, if you get it in fast enough, while it's still in the stomach, you can neutralize it. So one day a friend of mine's son decided to commit suicide by taking a drug, so I had them get activated charcoal; we stuffed it down, and everything was going fine till that his sister came out and said, "What? You can't do this; you gotta take him to the hospital." So we took him to the hospital, where they charged him a bill of 400 bucks when it was all over. But at the desk she said, "What have you done for this?" I said, "I gave him activated charcoal," and the nurse said, "Oh, that's what we're going to do." So as a universal anecdote, but for clinging your colon out and all of that, it blocks all the minerals and everything in it, so it's really not a good choice. And it's become—what is her name?—the Goop lady and David Wolfe—people; they're—they're quite a bit into it, but uh, nope, it's uh, good for emergencies; that's why I keep it handy. Even niacin I keep handy, but I don't take it. They're for the medicine cabinet, but when people take it on a regular basis, they're messing with their intestinal ecology uh, throughout from the stomach to the small intestine, all three sections of it, and all three sections of the uh, the large intestine; actually, all five sections of the large intestine.

Okay, one more actually, because I spotted a good one that we didn't cover: What are your thoughts on transit time and the role that fiber plays on the gut? And I think you've talked—months; it might have been last year when I had you on the show—about transit time and if you eat like raw nuts and seeds, you can count how long it takes to go through you. Let's see, I'm still missing—I didn't quite get the question. Are your thoughts on transit time after you eat food, like how long it takes to go from mouth to anus, and the role that fiber plays in that process?

Oh, the time to go through? Yeah, uh, I get you. You know, ideally, and this can vary for certain people; some people have longer intestines than others, etc., but ideally we're set up on a circadian rhythm to eliminate our breakfast at supper time, our lunch at breakfast time, and our supper at lunchtime; that's basically how it's set up. And if you eat according to growth period, which means tree foods in the morning, vine foods in the middle of the day as a broad terminology, and root foods at night, or the animals that eat those—so what is going to eat your grass and your vine foods are going to be your cows and your pigs and your chickens and all of those, and then your root foods, it's gonna be uh, fish and mushrooms and things like that. For people who eat fish, actually, there are fish without omega-three fatty acids in them, so it's no problem to eat uh, orange roughy, I believe it is, and some catfish. Uh, but anyway, uh, it's designed that way, and that's designed to push through uh, three times a day. When I started doing that in 1975, I guess 76, somewhere around there, uh, I've had no problems with my bowels since then at all. And I did—okay. And what about fiber, because I've noticed when I cut out fiber I have issues, so like I've been using the raw carrot and potatoes, but uh, I don't have lots of good fruit up here, but uh, because people cut out fiber completely, it's probably not a good idea, right?

Know—uh, yeah, eliminating fiber; you see a lot of these people saying that's a bad guy, and actually it's the good guy. If you have the fiber in the food—like a kiwi fruit is 25 percent fiber, a prune is 25 percent fiber—so there's lots of fiber in these foods themselves, but when you artificially take one out of growth period and otherwise, it makes a difference. So I had—I worked out of the gym, and this school teacher was working out with me, and he said he had—he took oat bran, so I told him at that time, not knowing all the bad stuff about oat bran, I said, "Take it at uh, the middle of the day; don't take it for breakfast," because I take it for breakfast. "I'll try it middle of the day." It works better. So I saw him a week later and said, "Uh, are you still taking the oat bran now in the middle of the day?" "Heck no; I had to stop." I said, "Why?" "It makes me fart." Well, that's what it's supposed to do. I'm a teacher; I can't be up there in front of people and farting all over the place. So the whole idea is to make you fart. When you take it at the wrong time of day, it can actually stuff up your colon. So if you are going to take oat bran synthetically, you take it at the middle of the day, not at nighttime, and you get your roughage out of potatoes and other things at night, and your morning roughage comes from certain fruit and—say, well, cheaply, 25 percent prune, 25 percent—you get uh, plenty of it. And with the pineapple juice, and by the way, yeah, and the tequila helps too. Yeah, actually that's a good—a good combo to take at night. I take the coffee, cocoa, and maple syrup in the morning, and then I take the—their hormone builders as well. They don't—cabala-mentonic means B12; it doesn't necessarily give you B12, so they argue about whether cacao has it or not, but it activates it and makes it useful. We need synergizers in our body as well as the thing itself, you know; vitamin A—iron isn't going to absorb without vitamin C, because actually vitamin C is chelated iron, and otherwise it's plain ascorbic acid. Now, say you have too much iron; you just take vitamin C and as little iron as possible, then it joins up with the iron and takes it out of your body. But if you want to put it in, you take vitamin C and iron, then it puts it in—often too much of it. So when you take vitamin C as a way of cleaning iron out of your body, there's no problem whether it's in a fill form or even in the food form; completely different categories, but they both do tend to remove iron when you don't take iron.

Wow, that opens up a whole can of worms for me; I want to talk for another hour on that, but I'll stop. But yeah, because I know ascorbic acid will deplete copper from what I understand, but maybe the benefit outweighs that in context—kind of like a yes-no-maybe thing. Yep, you know, uh, technically uh, lipophysically can use copper, but as Morley pointed out in a recent show that we did together, there's so little of it in the body compared to iron, why would he go for copper when he can grab iron out of there? So usually copper is not a problem or uh, for any kind of life of us can affects at all. One that is, though, is manganese. I can't tell you exactly why, but people that get too much manganese—and a lot of people going to repeat people like, "I've got to get more manganese"—I'd be able to get more—if you analyze uh, amyloid plaque in people's brains, you're going to find mainly iron and then magnesium—manganese—not magnesium, manganese—second, and then you'll find some aluminum also, which is not the primary part of Alzheimer's, but it does play a part when you get too much fluoride in your water, which frees the aluminum and puts it in your brain with the fluoride. But anyway, those two—so copper, I've never heard of anyone really getting a life of us can build up or or yellow fat disease from eating copper. And of course it's used in batteries; it's a very beneficial home for a lot of things. Yeah, it's interesting; for instance, uh, sex and for the process—very good—you think, by the way, can cause prostate cancer, and copper can prevent it. Wow, that's kind of a surprise for a lot of people out there taking zinc for their sex life, isn't it? Or for uh, or for certain viruses and things. Sorry about that. My favorite quote from you so far is, "If you think chi is stored in your balls, you're a male chauvinistic pig." I think it was from one of your books. [Laughter] Yeah, you know, in a lot of those seminal retention—women aren't supposed to do that. Uh, women, of course, have the ability to have hundreds of—work on this—orgasm; some of them do. Men don't generally have that; in fact, Kinsey hired women because he wasn't allowed to touch them—so many of them could just use their mind and orgasm all they wanted to, and so that's how he got to study their orgasms because he couldn't use any kind of objects with women. You know, he—he didn't get in trouble uh, writing his sex book on uh, on men, but when he went into women's—supposed to have orgasms—that's when they cut into his actions and made him die in poverty basically, out of trauma. I think he died of a heart attack from all the stress. They never attacked him for men having orgasms, but as soon as he went for women, that was the end; that was the end of his career; went down the toilet. That is wild. Well, uh, well, thanks, Adam; this was awesome, and uh, I think we—we even though we're both all over the place, I think we kept it pretty focused this time.

Around we sort of kept the law on the cola, you know, a little bit of leaky gut syndrome here and there.

Yeah, yep. And uh, yeah, I always appreciate your time and uh, sharing your wisdom and just your energy. Uh, we all love it and appreciate you, and uh, it’s always so much fun and all the all the stories that you have to share.

Thanks. Yeah, and and uh, go to uh, solartomy.com, and that’s where we have all these books. I’ve got about 45 of them now, and now I’m doing newsletters, and I’m coming at one of our current events. I won’t go into that; you have to go to other places and Facebook to find out about that, like one radio network uh, and some other places. Uh, do have my private opinions that I’m not allowed to say elsewhere, so I learned to shut up, because otherwise, you know, if if they crash places I’m at, I’m out of business; I’m I’m I’m homeless. So buy my books, please.

Yeah, I’ll appreciate it. All you do, Matt. By the way, you know what I what I admire about you is you go out and do it; don’t just talk about it. “Chickens are good; I’m going to go raise them.” This is good; I’m going to go do that. Hyperbaric chamber or that one that’s really great, I mean, really good, but you don’t walk your talk; you talk your walk. [Laughter] I appreciate it, and it’s always making mistakes, and and you know, I try to be open as much as I can and open about what I change and everything, you know, whether it’s spirituality, whatever. So yeah, I appreciate that a lot. That is actually amazing. And and God knows I’ve made enough mistakes coming down the line. It’s hard to admit them, but you know, we do; we’re humans. We don’t come with the umbrage manual, so we have to kind of figure this out ourselves. And we’re told by one person, “Eat this,” another person says, “Don’t eat it,” “Do this,” “Do that,” “Don’t that,” and so ultimately we have to figure out what how we can develop our bodies and learn and know that there’s exceptions to the the rules. You’re going to see Mr. Eats All Who Can Eat Sauces. Unfortunately, about 99.9999 percent of us can eat Cessnas for lunch. Well, I guess it would be a morning food since it flies in the air.

Well, I’m gonna make that that tequila pineapple thing, because for some reason, red wine—I’ve been drinking it for years, but just a small, you know, half glass—but I get a sneezing reaction, and my nose gets itchy. I don’t know if it’s bringing up a trauma; my nose gets crazy itchy. Red wine uh, kidney kidney time is a good time to do that. Now, some people will have a reaction; they want to blame the sulfites for it, but it’s actually the processing. A friend of mine met the person who invented the way to speed up the wine process and kill the bacteria without using new barrels, and that’s what causes the problem; it’s not the sulfide. They don’t do it in places in Europe, but many times… let’s see, if you take a sulfide uh, how can you neutralize that? Oh, homeopathically with a little garlic, and then those symptoms can go away. But get the purest wine you can, and a little bit of sulfides were re-reacted to; a lot of people overreact to them where they… one of the most bizarre cases, I must finish this one off: A woman had went out to lunch at a restaurant, and she suddenly couldn’t breathe, so they got an oxygen thing and rush her to the hospital, and what does the doctor say? Heartburn. And I thought, “Wait a minute, don’t take that purple pill and God say come and see me first.” And so I asked her, as soon as she got to my friend’s house, I said, “Do you have any kind of asthmatic condition?” And she said, “Yes.” You ate sulfur in in the they put the sulfide in the food to preserve it in the cafeteria salad bar, so that’s what she did, and to top it off, she had a little glass of wine, so combined it put her in the hospital, and they wanted to tell her it was heartburn. She had to be on Nexium—oops, I shouldn’t mention drugs—but the purple pill for a long time, and uh, and it was misdiagnosis. Many people have those kind of reactions from uh, having uh, if you don’t have enough oxygen, and that includes carbon dioxide. The carbon dioxide makes us breathe, not the oxygen. Like recently, during the Kennedy assassination uh, what was the name of the governor of Texas? Uh, Connolly. Connolly got shot; his wife saved him his life by jumping on top of him, and his hand went over the lung, the hole in his lung. Now, how did it save us life? It kept the air from getting in his lungs and killing… there’s the proof right there that obviously it’s the carbon dioxide that makes you breathe. If you have nothing but oxygen, your brain says, “Don’t breathe; you got plenty,” and carbon dioxide is the trigger. You can’t breathe without it. That’s such a classic example of Connolly’s life being saved by his wife keeping his hand over that wound, so no oxygen could get in it; nothing was coming out; it was the danger was the actual air. And just add some sugar to it too, right? [Laughter] Right. Amen. Oh, there’s a danger in sugar. I put my back out for three days lifting the 25 25-pound bag of sugar recently. I I bought it, and then I I instead of putting it up at a proper height, I bent over in a weird way to scoop it up into uh, empty jars, and then I my back got a little tight, so I woke up in the morning, I could barely stand. And part of that was having to do with a certain trauma too. So now it’s fast; that’s my only bad reaction from sugar, picking up the heavy bags. Ray P picks up 50-pound bags. Where does he get those? I’d buy one of those in a heartbeat. He’s keeping it for himself. Yeah, all right. [Laughter] I love it. Well uh, awesome Adam, thanks so much, and uh, I’ll uh, I’ll post the links to where people can check out your books below, and yeah, we’ll have to have an episode on sex and then an episode on mind hacking and just keep going. [Music] Thanks so much uh, stick around as I close out the show. Thanks Adam. All right, thanks for being there, Matt. Thanks a lot.

Well, that is all for today’s show. Hope you guys got a lot of nuggets from that one. I know I did. The pineapple juice and tequila—it was mind-blowing. I think it’s so interesting that certain things are demonized, like sugar, even tobacco, alcohol, and I’m not saying these things cannot be overdone; anything could be overdone, right? Even you take too much magnesium, and you get loose stools, which can be beneficial with constipation, but it’s counterproductive if you’re trying to build your magnesium levels. I really liked what Adam said about mucus and the mucusless diet and the color that it should be. My experience with mucus is that it’s produced while I’m in a city or right after I leave a city where I can smell the car exhaust, and we’re driving with the window down, and my body does not get exposed to all of that because I’m very fortunate to have built a life where I live in the forest out of a major city. So I just got back from California, and the next day I’ll just be discharging mucus from my sinuses, and it’s a beautiful thing. I mean, it’s not beautiful in one sense, but it’s a protective substance, and it’s not necessarily increased across the board with dairy consumption, because that’s a big misconception is that blanket statement: “Dairy creates mucus.” The quality matters; the integrity of your pancreas matters; the integrity of your hydrochloric acid; there’s so many factors to take into consideration before demonizing an entire food group like dairy. I think there’s a reason why milk and cheese have been targeted so intensely, not only by the conventional system but even by the alternative system, saying, “Cutting out dairy and everything improved.” You can see improvements by making any change, and so it’s really those long-term improvements that we’re looking for, not just changing and noticing that we feel better immediately, because that’s not a major feedback event. The major feedback event is seeing how we are six months later, a year later, two years later, three years later, et cetera, where we just keep improving, and that’s what I find with healing my metabolism and not restricting carbohydrates and animal protein and just coming back to balance. I’m feeling myself getting stronger and more resilient each month that I consistently eat breakfast, three meals a day. I stay on the raw carrots, the gummies; the more consistent I am, the better my results. And of course, there’s way more than food, as I talk about on this show; there’s air quality, there’s water quality, EMFs, light exposure; there’s so many things that influence our health that are beyond nutrition. But once you dial in the nutrition, you have the animal foods, and you’re limiting polyunsaturated fatty acid intake while not being neurotic—if you go out to eat, you just pop your vitamin E, and you don’t worry about it—but you’ll find that everything balances out. So I have people messaging me all the time on social media saying, “What do you recommend for a million different health conditions,” most of which I’ve never heard the name of, and I have to look up to see which organ or gland it’s involved with. But no matter the complexity of the condition, that’s why I created the CLF protocol: Calcification, Lipoflux, can and fibrosis. These are three things that accumulate in the body that inhibit oxygen from getting to the tissue. So a lot of people now are supplementing oxygen supplements, and they’re doing a lot of things to try to alkalize and oxygenate the body, but meanwhile they’re magnesium deficient, they’re copper deficient, their iron overloaded, and their PUFA overloaded, and their calcium overloaded, and the supplemental D, the supplemental calcium, supplemental zinc; there’s so many factors that are keeping them out of balance. So my message is strategic supplementation: You limit PUFAs, you live in balance, you don’t restrict macronutrients, you don’t restrict food groups, and go slow, and over time the body will heal. You don’t have to megadose supplements, especially when you start a new supplement; you always go slow and see how the body responds. But these conversations with Adam, you could see that there’s so many layers going on that it really takes time to implement from different areas, and it is complex, but at the same time it’s not, and you can make it second nature where you don’t have to micromanage every little thing in your life to try to stay healthy. It can become a flow; could become automatic to where you’re living your life, but you’re also supporting yourself physically, mentally, emotionally, and spiritually, which is all connected with health.

I always like how Adam brings up that vitamin D used to be called toxiferol, and they changed the name to cholecalciferol because toxopherol couldn’t be marketed, and this is a continued debate. I was actually interviewed on Kitty Blomfield’s “When It Life” podcast; it’s a great vitamin D debate, and it was kind of a four-on-one; I was the only one that was questioning it. I question it mainly for the hypercalcification aspect; it’ll also deplete liver retinol, which affects iron overload, and there’s multiple mechanisms where supplemental cholecalciferol, aka vitamin D3, will cause imbalance in the body, and I just have too many questions at this point to justify supplementing it. I don’t think at this point that it is smart to supplement vitamin D3; either get it from light or get it from food. And the response to that argument is, “Well, what if I don’t have access to the food like dairy, which contains vitamin D?” Adam says, “You could just put your food out in the sun and get it.” I have not experimented with that, and light—the argument goes, “What if someone can’t afford a 400-sporty vitamin D lamp?” And my answer to that is that’s not the only light out there; you can get a reptile bulb, literally for your snakes and your bearded dragons that they sell at a reptile store, and that is a UVB, ultraviolet B radiation, vitamin D lamp, and it’s very cheap. And of course, there’s coverage, and if you want to tan, and it can get pricey. The one that I have—I actually made a Mitre Life Academy video about it—it’s a stand-up light. The reason I have this is because I live in Northern Idaho, where I don’t have ultraviolet light for five, six months out of the year. So this is a way for me to not just get my vitamin D but to get my beta endorphin, to get my lumisterol, just pre-D3; there’s so many things that are created in the skin with UV light and with sunlight in general. I think it’s really interesting that all of the focus gets put on the psychosteroid hormone D/vitamin D with sunlight; you know, they call it the sunshine vitamin, where that’s really one percent, in my eyes, of the benefits of full-spectrum sunlight. You’re getting so many more compounds that are created in the body through that stimulus of invisible purple light, and I used to take this to the extreme; I would naked sunbathe and the cold water in the middle of the day, and I might get back to that at some point, but now that I have the context of lipofuscon and of polyunsaturated fatty acids in the skin increasing photo damage from the sun, increasing UV-induced skin damage, especially when you synergize that with chemicals, synthetic chemicals caught in the tissues in the skin, then you have to be careful. And there is a preparation—my pre-sun protocol—probably make some Mitre Life Academy videos on this summer; would be basically red light therapy and vitamin E; those be the main things that I use before I go outside and dose on UV light, especially midday at solar noon when the sun’s the strongest. So I know that was a little rant, but I always get going when I think about vitamin D, and it’s cool that Adam’s on the same page with that, because I just don’t see the point in supplementing it. I really don’t think it’s necessary. I think it’s not the only thing that controls parathyroid hormone; there are other control factors. The body is intelligent; it was designed intelligently to stay balanced even throughout the winter with no light stimulus whatsoever.

So check out the previous interviews with Adam Bergstrom if you haven’t. I always love having him on. I’m going to continue to have him on the show. He’s been pumping out the newsletters on his website; it’s solartiming.com, and this episode was based off of his newsletter, “Turd Eye.” He has three of those out as of this recording, March 2021, but he continues to come out with ones about yellow fat disease, mind hacking; he just released “Medical Nemesis,” and I’ll have him on the show to break down a lot of these, and we’ll do our best to keep it focused. It’s hard because Adam and I kind of have a “he mounted his horse and rode off in all directions” kind of vibe going on, so we could easily end up in outer space between the two of us, and we have to bring it back to earth and bring it back to the topic at hand, but seems like all of you love it, and like I said, there’s so many nuggets, and I love all the little facts that Adam has somehow stored up there in his head. It’s amazing that he can remember all that stuff. So check it out, solartiming.com; support him by buying his ebooks, and he even has a lipofuscin compendium; it’s called “Yellow Fat Disease Compendium,” and if you purchase it for a hundred dollars, you get all the current yellow fat disease books and the future ones, which is pretty cool. So a lot of people question whether omega-3 fats or EFAs, PUFAs, polyunsaturated fats, are essential; that is the book to get if you were on the fence, if you’re convinced that they’re essential for human health. He goes down the list of diseases that is caused by really highly PUFA, highly unsaturated fatty acid poisoning; it includes Alzheimer’s disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, frontal temporal dementia, Huntington’s disease, glaucoma, macular degeneration, Lou Gehrig’s disease, mixed dementia, vascular dementia, brown atrophy of the heart, cardiac necrosis, embryonic death syndrome, and more. I mean, the list is really long, what the PUFAs cause, and they break down into really harmful products. So I’m a big believer in vitamin E. I used that a few years back to recover from years and years and years of skipping breakfast, and I was on the autophagy thing; I thought that that was for longevity and anti-aging; it was caloric restriction; it was intermittent fasting; it was no or low protein for mTOR and all these complex things, and where I stand now is that longevity and anti-aging is mostly about lowering stress; that is the primary thing. I like that Adam always quotes these older women; I can’t remember the exact quote, but she credited her old age to chocolate, books, and young men, and there’s a lot of truth to that. If someone’s living a life that they love, then they will live longer. And whenever I go into the city, it’s depressing to me to see people doing things that they don’t want to do, working jobs they don’t want to work at, and I think at some point we’ll have artificial intelligence or robots—I think that’s already happening with fast-food establishments—and that could get weird really quick, but I think the silver lining there is that it’s going to free up people to pursue what they love, and I do believe that everyone has something unique to offer; it’s just a matter of finding it. And for me, I didn’t find that until my mid-20s, really, when I discovered natural health, and the deeper I got into it, the more in love with it I became, and now it’s to the point where I could talk about health all day long; I could think about it all day long, and it’s actually a de-stressor for me to connect the dots, to research, to have discussions with people about health, as long as we’re not talking about symptoms. To me, that is tiring, and that is the hamster wheel, and that’s where they want us to be, just focusing on the symptoms that we’re experiencing, which is a never-ending chase, and that’s like the medical mafia hamster wheel. Adam—Adam Bergstrom—calls it the “Medical Nemesis.” So there is a system in place; some people would call it the matrix, and I believe that the primary means that they where they are used to control us is stress—keeping us stressed out so that we fight each other over race, religion, and different beliefs, and we keep infighting because everyone’s stressed out. And if you put animals in a cage together, like an apartment complex, and you stress them out, or in a city, then they will attack each other because they’re stressed. So really the name of the game is to lower cortisol, and you’re not going to do that on a ketogenic diet; you’re not going to do that on any extreme diet, whether it be carnivore or vegan; you’re going to do that by balancing out your body, limiting polyunsaturated fats, maybe utilizing anti-stress substances like vitamin E and bone broth or gelatin. I’ve been really hitting the gummies hard; I put a post on my Instagram page about the gelatin gummies. I also have a recipe on my website, matt-blackburn.com; I have a little recipe page, and at this point I’m just using rectangular silicon molds; I’ll have to update that page at some point soon, but those gummies throughout the day are just a game changer, because you have the gelatin that’s been bloomed, you have hopefully filtered water in it, some fruit juice, some sugar; I squeeze fresh lemon in it, and it’s healthy gummies; they taste great. I would say just don’t overdo it; I had someone message me and say her husband ate the whole batch, and he got a stomachache. I’m like, “Of course he ate the whole batch; we’re back to balance,” right? And are there times to megadose? I believe so, but you have to really be in tune to know that, because if you megadose out of time, then can cause issues; same with tequila, right? Like Adam Bergstrom talked about, it’s just one shot; that’s all it’s needed, and that’s the research that’s been done on lipofuscin, and ethanol—a little bit inhibits lipofuscin, a lot increases its accumulation—so it’s always the dose. And when people say that with vitamin D supplementation, I’d say, “Well, microdosing rat poison; I don’t know if I would do that; I don’t know if any dose of rat poison is intelligent,” but that’ll be continued conversation because it’s a really heated topic. People love that, and I’ll have some vitamin D experts back on the show that don’t just look at two molecules but that look at three or more molecules, because there’s definitely interconnectedness throughout the body; it’s how the body works; it doesn’t just work on two dots that are connected; there’s usually three, four, five, six, 20, 30, 50 dots connected to look at the whole picture, and it’s not making it…

Over complicated? It's just being real and looking at reality; that's it. I gotta stop ranting on vitamin D.

If you want to support the show, you can get a mat-blackburn.com and my recommended products up there. The gelatin that I use, the medicinal mushroom products that I use—I really like the Alpha Dynamics Lion's Mane. I put that in my coffee before I do my shows. And I think I highlight this quite a bit, but the no-choice EMF protection clothing. I wore that recently to California; it was my older brother's birthday, and I flew down there. That clothing really saved me. It was a night and day difference. When I would start to feel irritable emotionally, because I'm in a pretty, forest, secluded environment—I'm very blessed where I live—very low EMF exposure. I still get hit a little bit, but it's nowhere close to being in the center of a city, like where most of my family and friends are. This clothing—the pants, the jacket—I even stack it with the Fawns underwear, and even the stupid mask I have is EMF shielded. Which, if I have to put on the muzzle, that's the one that I wear. And such a difference. I put on the jacket, especially the torso. I mean, you think about the heart, the liver, the kidneys—just your whole upper body there. It's so sensitive to electromagnetic fields. And just imagine when you're—if you're living in an apartment, or if you're driving, or an Uber or Lyft driver, or delivery driver like I did for several years straight—you're getting hammered, and you're not grounded, which makes the EMFs hit you harder, makes the negative effects worse.

And I plan to have a lot more episodes on electromagnetic fields. And there's good ones; it could be used for good, but the way that it's being used now is called weaponized, and it's real. And it's really the primary cause of many diseases, especially the rampant—I mean, I get questions about depression every single day: "What do you recommend for depression?" And well, I could say magnesium, which will help, and it will help protect against EMFs. That is just one piece of what's causing the depression. And, of course, this is my humble opinion; there's always context, there's always the history of the person and their traumas, and there's tons of aspects. But if we're just talking about the physical, day-to-day aspect of what's causing anxiety, depression, ADD, etc., the EMFs—they really hammer the brain; they hammer it. And they'll change the pH of your saliva. Everyone's having digestive issues; that's why they're cutting out dairy and allergies, and you just add on all this stuff, and it's like, where is it all coming from? And people will point to glyphosate and the hybridized food and this and that and man-made foods. And is it? Or is it something more immediate that we're always being exposed to, which is called EMFs: Wi-Fi, cell towers, 5G towers. This is a really big deal.

So anyway, I'll rant at a future time about EMFs when I have the EMF episode. I have some experts in mind that I want to have on the show to talk about what they do to human physiology. [Music]

And Middle Life is my brand; that's my supplement line. I'm actually working on four new products right now: two water products and two new supplement products. And I'm also working on getting things back in stock. I've been having a lot of issues with the desiccated oyster; unfortunately, I don't know if it's because of Covid, but international deliveries have been getting held or delayed. So I'm working on that, but stay tuned. In the next month or two, there should be at least one, maybe even two new products out that I'm really excited to share with you. And thanks so much for continuing to listen to the show. I have a new episode every Friday. I have so much fun doing this; I learn so much; I hope you do as well. Stay supercharged. [Music] You