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9797 or 1073.
>> Hey sir, how you doing?
>> Hey, how you doing?
>> Did you report this the license plate stolen?
>> Yeah. No, it ain't still. Well, that's what we're trying to clear up. That's the reason we were behind you for so long. We were trying to clear all showing up in our system that sto I got to show you my license.
>> What? Oh, okay.
>> Sir, >> we seen up here behind you and I seen >> Do you have the registration, sir?
>> No. Let me get the license first. Okay. Okay. Damn storage tag. always had a gate on that tag right there.
>> I'm not. That's like I said, that's what we're trying to make a y'all, right?
>> Sir, I can show you on my computer where it says stolen.
>> Show my sheriff tomorrow, Chief Jackson, somebody. But okay, I know I know it ain't stolen.
>> But I'm That's what I'm trying to figure out why it's come back stolen, sir. That's all I'm asking.
>> Y'all figure that out. I know this is my tag. I had this for 10 years and I'm not I'm not I just carry
>> Okay, hold on. All right. Everything's coming back, right? Like he's the owner of the tag on the right.
>> Is he Regginal Gaffne?
>> Yes, he did a report in 2016 for a stolen tag. So that's why we're trying to figure out why he's I don't why he's tripping.
>> Cuz I'm about to ask him about it and I don't care if he gets mad. you walking into the zone one substitution. That's fine.
>> All right.
>> Okay.
>> We're not trying to do anybody like that. What happened is you filed a report back in 2016 saying your tag was stolen. And whoever recovered your tag did not write a report saying that it was recovered. So, we are not harassing you. We are doing actual police.
>> Half of y'all police saw this tag. I've been downtown back and forth. Y'all
>> Somebody has to run it. Sir, you did you you walked into the zone one substation, right?
>> What?
>> The zone one substation in Norwood.
>> I've been in I work at CRC. I've been a zone one. I go downtown. I've had a seen as I had this thing.
>> No, cuz you reported in 2016 stolen.
>> I don't know if I did or not. I
>> Yes, you did. There's all your information.
>> I did. I don't know if I did.
>> But I guess did you ever did you ever find it or what happened?
>> Cuz now we have to report saying it's been founded.
>> I don't know if I report a stove. So, you know, I really don't know. Somebody may have. Maybe I have. But that's the same tag.
>> Did you recover the tag? What happened?
>> I don't I really don't know now. That's That's two years ago.
>> It's one year on my car.
>> My problem.
>> Nope. Cuz I The reason why I know they knew I could take all these off.
>> Mhm.
>> And they had the gator stepped. That's all.
>> No. Here's what All right. So in 2016 it was March you reported the tag stolen. You went to the zone one substation and reported stolen. So I'm saying did you recover it or what? Do you know how you got it back?
>> I tell you something. I don't even know if I did or not. Maybe somebody stole I don't even know how. I I really don't know. All I know is that's my type.
>> Okay.
>> And I'm you guys every day. You're the first dude to harass me about a stolen I tell the sheriff.
>> Hold on. No. cuz it's just it cuz it's
>> all right.
>> Make a U-turn at
>> Street.
>> No one ever did recovery and he said he's the one who reported stolen so that's why I'm asking about it.
>> Let me deal with the sheriff and chief Jackson. How do you deal?
>> This is my type. So who I need to talk to? You need to talk to us so that we
>> we recover it. That's all we're trying to figure out.
>> That's my type. What else you need to know? I'm telling you that's my tag.
>> Okay. So, in March of last year,
>> I don't know. I don't remember. Okay. I just told you that for the last time. Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. But that's my tag.
>> Has your tag ever been missing or anything?
>> I don't even remember what happened last year. I don't honestly. If I if I went in and reported, it probably was. It could have been another car. I got more than one car.
>> Okay. Okay. But that car,
>> well, it's the it's this tag. That's what the problem that's that's why I'm
>> that that tag
>> goes to that car now. It could have been I got my son car my name
>> and I got another Alexa.
>> But when you run the tag because you report it stolen last year since you never called us saying that you got the tag back or you found it, whatever happened.
>> So that's
>> it still comes back stolen.
>> Well,
>> no, it's not like you did anything wrong. We just need to know if you found it or what happened. That's all we need. That's all.
>> Let me tell you something. What is it? 2017.
>> Yes, sir.
>> I don't remember. All I know is if if I came in before the store.
>> Mhm.
>> I have no idea though because I had that. Um, which car?
>> It was on the same car. Did you have another black Lexus?
>> No, it's great.
>> It's a great Lexus.
>> All right. So, here's what happened. This happens all the time. Sometimes when someone has a another car, if like they need to drive other car around because the registration's expired, they will take the tag off that car and put it on there. Like I know you said your son, maybe you have another car and your son has that one.
>> So let me ask you, why are you here? Why y'all three?
>> This is our That's our sergeant.
>> He wants to complain on us because he's saying we're harassing him because his tag stole
>> right now. I feel like I'm for all three of y'all here.
>> He's our one is officer safety, sir. Okay. I've been out here 13 years. But this is the most out here.
>> I've been out here 13 years. This is the very This is the most violent part of Florida.
>> I'm not a violent person.
>> My guys don't know that until they make contact.
>> I did. I just told him he just saw my license. He can run there.
>> I said fine, but you have a stolen tag on your car.
>> I don't have a stolen that's my tag. For the last time I tell you, it's my tag.
>> Here's what happened. Last year in March, he went to zone one sub stationation and reported that tag stolen.
>> All right. So,
>> but he but when he got back, he never
>> he says he never lost it. So, we're trying to figure out what happened. That's why we asked him.
>> But then he keeps getting mad at us yet. Yes, keep reporting soon.
>> Might probably about be on the way up here.
>> Oh, that's fine. That's fine.
>> But
>> when was that report made? March of 2016.
>> We We keep asking him why, like if he recovered it or what happened. He said, "I don't know." That was last year. I don't know. But we're like, "Okay."
>> I mean, all we can do is we'll recover it.
>> That's why we told him.
>> We're just asking him if he found it or lost it or what happened.
>> I've been through this.
>> It's fine. Hey, if it if in the day of search that tag supposed to be his.
>> No, it's registered to his car, but we're trying to figure out why it's come back stolen.
>> Um,
>> so just uh, you know, notify NCIC that way he doesn't get pulled over again.
>> We'll do a sub to the original report
>> saying that the owner the owner of the tag has a tag
>> on the car supposed to be on. So,
>> you want to start scratching that out? No, they just they report the tags. I see.
>> Yeah, just for the tags. Um, they'll knock it out as soon as
>> Okay. So,
>> 104. So,
>> should we stand by while he calls or does whatever he wants to do?
>> It's fine. He wants to stand by and wait for whoever he's calling to show up. I'll be happy to stand by and wait for
>> I know Mike Williams is working late because he's been doing joint roll calls all day.
>> Well, you know, let me call him Chief Burger. Yeah, that brown. Oh,
>> yeah. I did nothing wrong. So, it's fine.
>> Oh, that's how some people are.
>> We asked him like a simple question, but he doesn't want to answer it. And it's all on body cam. Like, I wasn't we were rude or anything. Asked registration. He refused to give me that. So, I don't I don't even know his case with the supplement CCR number saying his
>> that way if he gets stopped again tonight. So,
>> put the original in there and then underneath that put the sun.
>> You got the original.
>> No, my computer crashed.
>> So,
>> it's like 168.
>> I'm glad I came with this.
>> Yeah, there's two ways to handle this as a citizen and he's doing it wrong. So, I'll deal with I'll deal with him completely. So, go for it. It's not we we didn't like no guns blazing drawn on him or anything. He's just told him his tag was stolen. He's like tag's never been stolen. Like you reported stolen 2016. Why? Do you remember that? No.
>> So ask me about it. Y'all have printers?
>> I do, but I got plenty of paper. Forward me the 1099. 157818
>> for um send your CCR number.
>> This one or
>> the 1578818?
>> Hey Joe, do you
>> The uh old CCR number is 16 dash 157818. What's your number again?
>> 157818.
>> And um who's this fine gentleman?
>> Uh Councilman Regginal Gathy. Oh,
>> all right.
>> But yeah, is that that's the report you see that's him and he but he claims he does not remember any of that.
>> Well, I'm going to print him out of the kindness of my heart.
>> And we asked him like several times just to tell us if he like lost it or what happened.
>> These city council,
>> they can they're horrible. Horrible. I've never had a good good experience with the media.
>> Look, I I don't know. Apparently, this is harassment, but uh
>> stopping somebody for a stolen tag is harassment.
>> Yeah. No.
>> Oh, do you have your your MDC up?
>> Yeah. Burton.
>> I'll talk to
>> I know Burton.
>> That's fine. Hello. Hey, this is this is CA Smith ID74010. He has a All right. CA Smith ID74010. So, he has a tag on his I'm sorry. CA Smith. Smith. SM T. No. So he All right. The tag on his vehicle is Florida Tag Golf Zulu Fox Trot Zero Uniform. It's a Florida tag and it comes back to his car, but it's registered. It comes back stolen. So me and another officer pulled him over, asked him about his tag, and as soon as we did that, he like was angry saying we're harassing him. So I asked for registration, I explained to him in 2016, he went to the zone one sub stationation. and register and he wants his own one substation and report it stolen. So then he says he's never lost it and he doesn't remember doing that and I was you did you switch it and put it under the car or anything and he's just the entire time he's just yelling saying we're harassing him. It's all on body cam. If you would like to view it, you can request it from the um you were there at the body cam unit meeting. But I literally we were polite to him. We didn't draw guns on him, anything like that. Ask for registration. He went get it. He got the car to get his license. He gave the other officer his license and then we ran it. And it all comes back to him. But we were trying to figure out why. I guess he didn't call to let us know he recovered it or what happened. Yes, sir. This is his phone. Um, he also got mad cuz my sergeant came up here cuz he cuz it they gave us 1033 since the tag stolen and I guess he got mad. Our sergeant came up here too. Okay. And like I explained to him, it's not like we had our guns drawn on him or anything like that. We just walked up to the car since he didn't run or anything just to ask him what was going on with his license, his tag. That was it. No, he just said, "I'm you know who I am, original gaff. I work down in town. I see cops all the time and they always see that tag." That That's fine. Roger that. We're going to we're going to do a sub and take it out the system since he recovered her and never want stolen. He's not sure. So,
>> hey, I'm going to give you back to him. Mr. Gaffne, you saw this too. Hey. Hey. Who's that?
>> Who's that?
>> He told her one thing. I told her.
>> Oh, okay.
>> What's his name again?
>> Regginal Gaffne. Uh Joey printed him out the um original report to show him that he indeed went down his own substation. Like I don't I'm I'm sorry.
>> Oh yeah.
>> So I don't know what his problem was. I'm like
>> I don't know. That's I'm scratching this out real quick. That's if you want to go give that to me.
>> That is his fresh recovery,
>> the original and then the um the stop for today. All right.
>> All right. All right. Well, okay. I said, come on. If I say,
>> but I just here again, I'm fighting for y'all to get more money and and I feel like I'm okay.
>> This is the problem.
>> I'm call I'mma call I'm here the way I need to.
>> All right, sir. I'm Sergeant Kirkland. Okay. This is the original report. when your tag was reported stolen. Okay. It was back in 2016, March 3rd. Okay. And it was reported stolen by a L Hall
>> that uh who's that?
>> [ __ ] a L. Yeah, his tag was
>> I don't even know. Let me tell you something. You know who a hole is? I was right behind him and I seen you get
>> that's Brown. That's
>> And I seen her on the side of you and then I seen y'all pulling over.
>> I was riding behind him first and then you
>> I don't even know the hell who first I was the last one to show up after the show.
>> Ma'am, I just showed up.
>> Whoever was Whoever was riding behind me, they was right behind me first. They've got another lane and they pull right in front of my car. Right at the checker to checker tag. I see the racing profile.
>> And we run everybody's tag. That's what I'm saying. I seen y'all do it.
>> The last conversation I had with you. You were me.
>> Okay. You were right behind me at first, then you got
>> his tag comes back stolen.
>> Okay.
>> When the tag comes back stolen,
>> he reported it stolen. That's why I'm trying to ask you about it. Somebody somebody named Hey, somebody named Yes, ma'am. We have most cars in this area.
>> I was going to give you this.
>> I'm Gaff, not okay. Reggin. I just gave my That's the officer.
>> Don't worry about it. Get it.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. That was officer. Okay.
>> Regginal Gaffne walked into substation one located at Norwood Avenue. The victim stated his vehicle had been parked on Duvall Place West for auto repairs. The victim advised he recently started receiving citations in the mail from red light cameras displaying his tag on an unknown vehicle in violation of traffic laws. Victim advised he went to the location of his vehicle on 3916 and discovered his license plate had been removed from his vehicle. The victim reported it to the business owner and is attempting to cancel a tag and have a new one issued.
>> So that's supposed to be a new one.
>> Okay. Did you make this report? Honestly, I don't. But it could.
>> It's It's Well, it's got your name on it.
>> Don't worry about it.
>> It's got your name on it, ma'am.
>> Get out of here.
>> So, if
>> if you didn't get a new tag, so we don't do tags.
>> That's That's a whole different department.
>> So So, let me let me
>> She said she said he said that's a lie. He said it does come up in the
>> right here.
>> Who you talking to?
>> What? Who you going to call this? No, don't sheriff. Not sir. I deal with anymore.
>> Mr. G, did you or did you not make this report?
>> I h I don't remember. Honestly, so you know the truth. I don't remember.
>> All I know is that's Well, let me tell you, I could have made it
>> because I remember receiving some tickets from the uh my car was getting fixed and somehow,
>> but at that point, you got your tag back
>> like a businessman gave it back to you.
>> When I picked up my car, it was death.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. So, so probably somebody working at the place was using your tag, giving you all kinds of tickets, and when you came to get your car back, they put it back on.
>> Could have been.
>> Okay. And when you made this report, it was put in the system that that tag was stolen. Okay.
>> And and and if the tag was put back on your car when you got it back, you were supposed to call us back and say, "Hey, I got my tag back." And what would have happened is we would have taken it out of the system as a stolen tag. You know my frustration cuz I'm with 10 officers a day and everybody I don't know y'all but I'm with so many officers a day and somebody would have at some point would have recognized that or said something and and for a year or two later just happened to be the night this is the first time it came came up
>> but that that might be just happen chance it don't know but I can tell you right now officer Smith is one of my best officers in my absence he's the acting sergeant and I would not condone racial profiling on my squad. Okay,
>> this is how I felt tonight.
>> Well, okay. Feelings and facts are two different things.
>> So, me and you, let me tell you what I'm tell
>> already heard what you said, Adam. What happens is we run tags as we drive.
>> The damn
>> and when he ran when he ran
>> this gentleman's tag, it came back as stolen.
>> So, y'all just as y'all drive, y'all run everybody's tag. But that's how we find stolen vehicles.
>> Every single call you behind.
>> Well, most if I have time, we're not doing something. Yes, ma'am.
>> It's a slow night unlike yesterday.
>> Okay.
>> So, so that's what they do.
>> But sir,
>> that's what
>> for your convenience. I printed out your the original report. That's for you. Okay. This is the report of that tag being stolen. This is today's traffic stop. Okay. Your tag is being taken out of the system right now as stolen. So, this isn't going to happen anymore.
>> I'm my frustration.
>> But this is for YouTube, right? But I understand being frustrated at times. Before I joined JSO, I've been pulled over and it's never fun. It is never a good thing to be pulled over by the police. But it has never ever in in my mind to respond the way you did in any of the times I got pulled over. I treat everybody with respect. When I got born because I'm fighting like hell to try to get y'all more money, get more cops on their streets and for me to be harassing like I feel tonight. Just got out of damn city council meeting. I done been behind a thousand cops. Nobody pulled over talking about my tag been stolen.
>> Tag it though.
>> This is the first time you and I have ever met. I met uh Reggie Brown. I met you before
>> at Harbor View Boat Ramp.
>> Yeah, but I'm saying he ran
>> right next to Ricky Brown.
>> Correct. He ran his tag and what happened is you got to understand like he just got a call from state attorney about this kind of
>> No, I I know what he's talking about. What I'm saying to you is I hear that when y'all doing it in in the area and then you stop people.
>> Okay, ma'am. Ma'am, we're not just stopping.
>> Okay, but I knew she was running. I knew you was running tags. I seen behind my car. You ran my tag and then you swerved over and you got right in front of me.
>> My officers don't care.
>> You want me to find stolen cars? How
>> you are? You not want me to find stolen cars? That's how I find stolen cars.
>> Yeah, but what but what I'm saying is
>> you you swerved around me.
>> Yes, because his tag came back stolen. No, no, no.
>> He ran that tag before he went around you. That's why he had to get
>> How he was able to get
>> because he could see it.
>> He was behind me.
>> You was behind G. We had just came to the counseling,
>> right? And I was in Remember I was in I was in the left lane. You were in the right lane, right?
>> I was in the right lane.
>> Right. And I was in the left lane. I saw his tag. I ran it. It came back stolen. And then that's when I got in front of you at the checkers and I had him run it to verify that I was seeing the same thing he was I was seeing. It came back stolen again.
>> So you ran my tag first.
>> Yes, ma'am.
>> And then you get ran his tag. So I guess you just zigzagging around a tag.
>> Well, not zigzagging around.
>> Well, stop sign.
>> But between calls for service, we're required to stay busy and to be proactive.
>> But I can tell you right now, all the guys on my squad are professional. It's but that you make whatever calls you need to make cuz I've already had one conversation with you and Ricky Brown and I didn't like what you said that time cuz when I pulled in the Harbor View boat ramp you turned straight face said to me we all get scared when you white cops drive in here. No. And this is one of the most bigoted things I ever heard.
>> Hold on a second. Please don't
>> No. Okay. Yeah. Well, that's how you guys are talking to my officers.
>> Don't talk to her later.
>> Well, I'm I'm repeating a story. I'm repeating
>> you. Okay. And I'm going to tell you, you going to respect my officers and you will not deal with them tomorrow. You don't respect her. So you don't even know.
>> You don't even know her. You don't even know that young right there.
>> Brown.
>> No, that's because he said, "No, no,
>> you're Katrina Brown."
>> Katrina Brown, but you ain't never saw him.
>> I was I was parked right next to Ricky Brown.
>> Sergeant Ricky Brown, who's now retired.
>> That's not true. That's not true.
>> So, would you like me to write my name on that book, too? Because I'm on the book cuz this paper
>> and what do we do? I'm confused. We ran a tag. It came back stolen and we stopped the car.
>> Okay,
>> that's what we're supposed to do.
>> Going to walk up here and try to harass him. I'm not harassing. I ain't
>> First of all, what he said was disrespect. What I said about white people.
>> I wasn't I wasn't what he said was not necessary.
>> And what y'all been doing off was necessary. deal with this [ __ ] All right.
>> Well, I'm releasing my officers.
>> You can do that, but the sheriff I'm releasing my I'm releasing my officials like that. I'm releasing I'm releasing my officers, but I'll deal with it.
>> You guys go ahead and chat back
>> and um forward that report to NCIC ASAP. Won't