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Heat. Heat. Hey everybody, it's Chris. Hey, >> you're listening to Wake Up with Christopher D. Simone on the Live the Dream Media Network, Southern Arizona's premier live talk and online radio. Hello there. >> You're on Live the Dream. Christopher D. Simone. It's a Thursday. Southwest flavor coming up at 9:00 with the great Ron Arenas. We have a busy day today. We have um David at 7, Niels Grailius. Yes, that Mills Grailius will be here at 7:30, followed by my new favorite university president. Um, hold on, I'm forgetting his name. How's that for uh It's coming back to me. Dr. Gerson. And he's that guy from Cornerstone. Oh, Gersonen Moreno Rioano. And that's like a that's like a breath of fresh air when it comes to what's going on in the world of higher ed. And of course there was a discussion of some of these kids with their Ivy League degrees paying going you know in huge debt and you know what what what are they truly getting for such things. So tomorrow is going to be a fun show. Max the intern coming back from Huntington Beach plus Mark Van Beern doing movies. So tomorrow will be a very very fun show.

The um let's see. I don't know. I I was in the backyard this morning and of course the uh sun comes up at all god awful times now in the summer. But um I just sent this to Shay. We'll put it up real quick. It is a um this is what I was sitting having a cup of coffee to this morning in the OV. Um, it was kind of one of those glory of God moments starting starting my day. How's that for uh how's that for beautiful? And it lasted literally for four and a half minutes and then it was done. So, uh oh, what do I do now? Hold on. Look at her. Sheay is the consmate pro. After all these years, I am the consmate nonpro. So, it takes her professionalism to balance out my uh my unprofessionalism. So, I always appreciate her uh good work. Uh let's see what do we got today? Who's in the live chat? Billy B. Mother Muka. That's funny. I have I just opened up the live chat and Mother Muker goes, "Did you see the sunrise? A real beauty." Well, yes, I did. Um, Prague Thursday. Well, I appreciate that, Patrick. Uh, good morning. 72 degrees in, uh, I don't want to [ __ ] [ __ ] Cocker County. I don't know. Uh, Keith, yes, my dogs are firm believer that dad doesn't need under uninterrupted sleep. Just saying. Well, the dogs have to get out there. So, Murf 88, Chris King, good morning. Um, what if I said King Kingster and I had a good lunch a couple days ago. Um, yeah, it was Tuesday. Went to just kebabs with our good friend Arash. Oh, I did say it. Um, let's see. I will. Captain Bob Wells. Uh, US strikes ran to stop straight of Hormuz threat. Um, I said it the I said it to Shay. It's the um it was the uh Babylon B. You don't have to put it up. It's fine. Um, it was the Babylon B headline was just so perfect. It was um Oh, I didn't send it this sh. That's okay. Uh, Trump, uh, I want to make sure I get this somewhat correct. White House announces Iran deal is completely done except for all the important parts. So, um, we'll get to the other one about the the diploma when we come back. Remember, June 17th is our amazing, uh, watch party of the debate indoor picnic with Miss Tammy Jean. Get your tickets. I will uh, we I sent out a bunch of links yesterday to people. If you need a link to get tickets, let me know and I will send it to you, chrisel ltdia.net.

So, there's some blog, news site, whatever we want to call it, called Pirate Wires. I saw this on Real Clear Politics. It's about this um uh this Spencer Pratt run for mayor in Los Angeles. And even the little sub headline was fascinating because it reminds me of a certain region somewhere north of the Mexican border and south of Panal uh that rhymes with emma. And there's two lines that I just love. This is by Mike Salana at this Pirate Wires. Um, Spencer Pratt, who just shattered, this is my f, this is my first favorite, the honesty taboo. And get this, the power of a local politician who talks about local politics. How's that for How's that for amazing? So, we'll talk about that. I have salon guy from leather. Sorry. A lady from Well, it's Salon. I want to make sure I I don't want to presume her gender, but Heather Diggby Parton. She's got three names, so she's got to work for a salon. Um, latest move talking about uh Trump's latest move to restrict voting rights. And I want to hear from the lefty point of view on how they portray or or perceive what's going on in world of redistrics and save act and all of these different things. Um, so my buddy Dennis Neil wrote a book called Oregoners, right, which is about the amount of the just the total destruction, self-destruction of parts of Oregon and how they've lost their mind and people who are leaving. And we have a new one that who knew, remember this is the state that legalized drugs, even hard stuff. Wait till I get to this next one. It's if it gets it's on a it's it's it's a petition gathering thing, but I if there's a state that'll pass this thing, uh I know uh all of my outdoors people, including Lawrence, our teacher Lawrence, will basically shake their head and go, "What the hell are we doing?" I have dueling opinions from Dr. Jill Biden and people that work at the um that worked in the Biden administration. Was he about to stroke out? Not stroking out. I mean, the the idea that we're now pointing they're pointing fingers at each other on Joe's decline that everybody saw, it's pretty good. When Niels comes on, he's going to talk about I guess there was an assassination attempt or a planned assassination attempt on Ivanka Trump, believe it or not. Okay. Then there's I want to talk about the Spencer Pratt stuff with him in LA too, but a journalist who covered the sprawling Zoro Ranch compound of Jeffrey Epstein in New Mexico. Her name is Alisa Valdez Rodriguez, former Boston Globe and LA Times reporter turned best-selling novelist and in independent investigator. Um, says she's been she suffers she's been suffering after what she describes two direct energy weapon unquote attacks inside her home office in New Mexico. So, when Niels gets here, he's going to he's going to help us walk through direct energy weapon attacks. I didn't think I was going to talk about today. A massive line forms in Texas to vote because they just had their primaries, right? Uh Paxton whipped Cornin. Chip Roy got whipped in his attorney general run. But this was in Houston and the line was not to vote in American elections. So we'll talk about that. Um two Hispanic gentlemen walk out of an ICE uh facility and the crowds protesting ICE cheer. I'll explain that story. We have a uh a barber shop owner. He owns a couple of locations in Tucson and he's as part of the searching for the number four is channel four. You get it? Four. Um Danny Garcia owns Two Sons for Men Barberhop and talking about how he is finally sick of all the crackheads. So, we're gonna we're gonna do that. And then we're get the the mouth breather for our boy Bruce. He um he'll be there. Uh, there's a quote from him, too. A guy gets eight years in prison for organized shoplifting. Josh Jacobson is quoted. Um, what else do we got here today? There's a Kun 9 story about the Palm Shadows apartments on Speedway and Campbell, but they used a wonderful euphemism for them that it's it can only happen in Tucson. So, um let's see. Rex, four and a half minutes of a gift from God talking about that amazing sunrise. Amen, brother. Um I'm not going to touch the name of that county. Uh Pat, good morning. Roberta, good morning. Chris and the wakies. Nothing beats Tucson skies. Good morning with Jamie. The discombobulator is real. That's true. Danny is great. It's true. The guy yesterday, Alejandro, I I didn't know how that was going to go. I I mean, I I I I love the idea. This guy runs he's the head of this one of the bigger labor unions in Mexico. That guy that guy was unbelievable. He was talking about the um how um who's going to have that who's having that conversation in America, right? Imagine, think, think of the load of crap you've been sold by the the mainstream media in this country and you have that discussion with that guy. And I've always it was Alejandro for president of Mexico. So, think about some of the some of the kind of qu the little conversation points when I said the um he um what the having a country that had a death train through it, right? Why is that a good thing? Why would a country even allow something called the death train where and you'd let all these illegals blow through your country, right? And then think about this, right? Then they complain, oh, like not I don't how could I don't want to say that the Mexican people are complaining about this, right? Because you don't really know, right? Trump and so you kind of hear, oh, you know, because you always hear Trump's a racist, right? I I always love that Trump's a racist, right? And so when you say or he's a xenophobe, that's another one, right? And I'm kind of sitting there going, give me the stuff on like what about his effect on people in America that you say that he's racist that are American citizens? Limiting out of control immigration is not racist, my friends. all even so look the f one of the French uh ministers in their government said that France has to have at least a three-year moratorum on all immigration right uh another Belgian guy just uh came out with a he did a kind of a straight ahead speech on immigration and now I don't know someone wants to prosecute him in Belgium but Here's a guy saying all of these illegal immigrants that his country let blow through the southern border of Mexico hurts his employee hurts his employees that his workers, right? Because they didn't get through to America. They didn't go back to Guatemala or anywhere else. They were from south of Mexico or even other parts of, you know, we had Africans and Chinese immigrants coming through the border and they and they're still stuck in Mexico and they're willing, as he said, to work almost slave labor, right? He literally said that yesterday. They're willing to work for three three squares, which usually is a bowl of rice and something else and a pl and and and a bed and a bathroom. Have you heard that anywhere? That guy was he was off the charts. Alejandro couldn't let and if if you ever have discussions with people out about the border, just just point them towards Alejandro that interview. He was so good. Uh, Noah, was Bowden stroke striking stroking out during the Hirsch interview the Biden was suing to prevent the release or when he spewed nonsense introducing Justice Brown or when he repeatedly shook hands with ghosts? Possibly. I mean, that four years was a hell of a fullcourt press, wasn't it? Right. the coverups of so many things, the distortion of reality, the idea that we villainized Americans who didn't want to take an experimental drug and were right to not take the experimental drug, right? And all because of politics, right? They got Joe and Camala up top. They got a couple of Republicans to come by and do a quote bipartisan infrastructure bill. I mean, when they got the um what do you call that thing? The infla inflation reduction act. It showed how it was the ignorance of Americans and people that were on the left literally knew it was never an inflation reduction act again. No way in hell you flood the American economy with a whole bunch of billions of printed dollars and that's going to reduce inflation. Again, back to everyone needs to read Thomas Soul's Basic Economics or at least you know and you know what I think with basic economics is maybe someone's done it. Um someone needs to do a primmer for the average bear on basic economics. You know when I hand it to people, you know, it's about this thick. It's a hard cover. Like I got to read a book. Maybe there's a website that I I gota find it. Someone someone explains to idiots uh like kind of like uh you know uh basket weaving for idiots. I need Thomas Soul's basic economic for idiots to be a website. I'm sure I'll look for it during the break. But that's how crazy the perception and and and the idea that Joe Biden these people would say he's so sharp, right? Getting pulled away by the Easter Bunny. Again, one of my favorites. just a crazy. But again, they hated Trump so much they would put a they would put a stroking out orangutan in there to be president and that'd be fine. They didn't care. And look how much look how much that that that money that they flooded out saved all of these blue cities like Tucson. If Puma County and well Puma County be better off because the property tax is more stable but that city of Tucson money where they went to a 2 Think about that they went from a 1.4 1.3 to a $2.4 billion budget and that's why the idea that they're still doing a 2.4 billion dollar budget for a city that's literally falling apart is I can't make it up. I can't make it up. Um Chris King, I offered to buy a copy of the book to the mayor and council. I was told um only one would read it and the rest would use it to level a table. So I assume the only one who would have read it might be Nikki Lee. You imagine uh imagine the dude reading basic economics. Hey bro, is there a cartoon of this or what? So, when we come back, let's see, where do I want to start, Miss Shay? After my opening rant before we get to David at the top of the hour, let's do the uh Shay, we're going to do the um Seattle neighborhood sets up barricades to deter gun violence. Well, let's do that story when we come back and then we'll follow that up with the um probably the unsheltered crisis Tucson's business calls for stronger enforcement between now and the top of the hour. So, give me a call 7771-5101-520 area code chrisel ltdia.net to get tickets for our amazing June 17th event, debate watch party, indoor barbecue, and what else is going on? There's lots of stuff. 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Oh, hey there. You are on Live the Dream Media with Christopher D. Simone. Shay's working the the good stuff in the back there. Southwest flavors coming up at 9:00 followed by Let's Talk Sports at uh at 10. I can talk today. And uh we have David followed by Niels Grailius followed by Dr. Gerson, our favorite university president at 8:00. So things are going to rock and roll tomorrow. Intern Max Max Mark Van Beern movies. Just saw the trailer for What did I do? Oh my god. So Hold on. You're a good woman. Um, he's all he's like he's like a squirrel. This guy just keeps keeps moving around. Uh, just saw a movie trailer. I shared it with Mark and Marggo. It's called Pressure. Opens up this weekend. I don't know if it's in all theaters or limited, but it's got my boy Andrew Scott, who played Mori Arari in the Benedict Cumberbatch Sherlock. He's been in different movies. and Brendan Frasier as Ike and it has to do with the discussions of giving the go for the D-Day operations and and for all of you weather people Mike Shaw Brody um all the other ones I'm missing Jimmy Stewart and um Paul Michael Goodrich all this is a movie about how important the meteorologist is like the two leads in it is Andrew Scott as a me a British meteorologist and Brendan Frasier as Ike because the weather played a huge part in whether or not Ike gave the green light for the D-Day operations. So it's called pressure. You get it? Because there's pressure and weather, but then there's pressure. Anyway, it looks actually for a weather movie. It looks pretty good. So, the uh pressure movie. Let's let's see what the uh and especially with D-Day. We're in the middle of Freedom Season for God's sakes. And I do have a new graphic for Freedom Season. So, I know Lori was asking why I took the other one down. It was just headache problems. Anyway, um so anyway, that is it's getting Let's see. This is Let's go to rotten. Remember, you gota you got to take the Rotten Tomatoes. Oh, please. I have an ad blocker up. Sorry. Uh let's see. Hold on. There we go. Uh you always got to take you got you always have to do a little bit of a average of the um of the fans with the uh critics. So fan. So critics on 39 reviews is giving pressure an 87% 87% uh review. So maybe um so anyway that might be as you're celebrating freedom season and we we're we're walking into um we're take um we're walking in let's see if it's playing at the century at this old cineark. I don't know how these movie theaters are staying open either. God bless all of them. I mean I mean is it I mean now we got kids movies I guess. Was it Was it really Grou? Margot, that's a yes. Uh, let's see. Well, Xfinity doesn't want to open up the uh the Cineark Oral Valley. I'm sure it's there, but anyway, I think again, moving into coming out of Memorial Day, moving into D-Day, Pressure might be your uh might be your movie to watch. So, give it a shot. All right, I'm just going to shut those pages down now.

Let's move on to we know Seattle and Oregon. We're going to do a little Seattle, Oregonet one-two punch here first, but we're going to start off. This is um local TV news uh story from the NBC affiliate about Seattle residents building um homemade barricades due to the gun violence in their area. And I thought this was an interesting Basic economics is not a graphic graphic novel novel. Uh Noah, I'll ask him that question. I promise if he can I think he can talk about I can't if he's in uh a office if he's in his office or any official building in DC, he's not allowed to talk about the governor's race. But I think even your answer about um that question about university, I just can't talk about the campaign when he's in those spaces. He he got he got a little warning for being in one of those um he was in the brief he was in the the ways and means room and he did an interview with me and we mentioned that and uh someone I don't know if it was the bigs campaign or anyway someone complained so he did get a talking to I believe. So, all right, let's go to Seattle, Washington. For the people so sick of crime, they're putting barricades, excuse me, barricades in the roads. Excuse me. >> We just saw Honda Element drive around here. So, we got to put a stump over there. I think >> you can't just illegally block the road because >> another conflict divides North Seattle's Greenwood neighborhood. is either this or bullets in my neighbor's houses. >> Not gunfire, but how far residents are going to stop it. >> Our neighbors put these up in self-defense. >> The risk of emergency services not being able to get through here is greater than the good that they think that they're doing from putting up this. >> Makeshift barricades now block three streets off Aurora Avenue, and they're building frustration. >> And I just don't think that this is the right fix. It comes after residents like Kate and Peter say they've documented at least eight shootings in about the past month within roughly 10 blocks of their homes. >> We celebrate when there's not a shooting. >> Until that evil is taken care of, we got to deal with this. >> Seattle requires permits to block or place structures in public streets. Unauthorized obstructions can lead to fines or removal orders. Kate and Peter say they were built over the weekend and say they don't know whether a permit was approved. You can't just move these makeshift barricades out of the way. And you can see here they're made of dirt, gravel, chunks of concrete, and even logs. >> But doing it yourself, I don't think is right. >> Some say it goes too far. >> It's not a good way to protest. Um it doesn't solve anything. >> It's not a fix for sure. It's a band-aid. This is Tylenol for stage four cancer. >> Conflicts between neighbors ended in understanding and in one case a handshake. >> I'd shake your hand and give you a hug if you're into it. >> I'll shake your hand, sir. What's your name? >> Peter. >> Peter. >> As neighbors push the city to stop the violence, their homegrown roadblocks could find themselves at the top of the city's to-do list and be removed. >> We're at the point of we have to choose between the lesser of evils. >> In Seattle, Alex ML, King Five News. It's so interesting. So, they don't want the the the bad guys with the guns in their neighborhoods, so they're blocking the streets. That's a new one. How do they I guess I I have so many questions. Like, how does uh how do they get home? Do those two people have a car? Do they park outside of the barricades? I I have so many more questions. Again, I I I it got my attention as here's a story of citizens of a community that feel that Sorry guys, they're leftists. Uh the people who run Seattle uh are are just again just like you you'll see there's a quote coming from uh Mouthre in a little bit that kind of sums it back all up again. Uh he's going to be our next mayor according to him which is Paul Cuttingham is walking around telling everyone he's running against Raa Romero. It's the best. Chris isn't Seattle a gun-free zone. Thank you. Give Chris a ding uh Shay for that one. You mean the bad guys don't don't respect the gun-free zone? Is that what I'm hearing? Um, Billy Billy Beard, uh, history shows when government refuses to enforce laws, they were voted on and passed by representatives and those same voters use other methods vigilante to accomplish the the same. Yep. Uh, Katherine, good morning. Uh, Doc FJS, my dad has the same name, James Stag. No relation, but both were colonels in different armies. He was described as a daer scout Scotsman like Ike. That'd be a great name for a scotch whiskey, right? Uh, give me a fifth of Dower Scotsman. I like that.

So, before we get to the two, I just I just want to stay in the great state or not so great state of Oregon. We're just gonna just gonna throw this on before we get to the KVOA story. Shay, this one this one's good. So February, a circul a petition was being circulated by progressives in Oregon that would essentially ban hunting and fishing. They're trying to ban the killing of animals in the state. So it would also not only affect hunting but it would um let's see um also the raising of animals uh as a um for food. Okay. So, IP28 it's called. And um they actually got the signatures and it's going to be on the ballot in um in Oregon. Uh let's see. Here we go. Controversial legislation alkal killing or injuring of any animal even while shooting or catching your dinner. Uh it garnered 120,000 signatures, more than the 117,000 it needs to go to vote in November. Along with banning hunting and fishing, the legislation would also prohibit the slaughtering of livestock and using animals in rodeo and for scientific research. It would also prohibit operating commercial poultry business, castrating or neutering livestock among other practices. um someone who's running a Republican governor candidate. It's an all-out assault on the Oregonians way of life. Quote, "It criminalizes ranchers, farmers, meat producers, threatens to kill thousands of jobs. It would mean the end of hunting and fishing in Oregon, killing not only traditions and ending access to essential source of food, but butchering natural resource-based industries that support hunting and fishing. Fishing. Wow. Now, someone says that insects and rats are also I don't know about that. Hold on. Let's see if I can find the IP28. uh wording. I mean, it's wild, man. It is wild. Where is IP? I want I want I want to know what this this sucker how this sucker reads. I mean, if they put insects and rats on it, that would be would that be the most awesome that would be the most Oregon Portland thing that I don't think Fred Armison could could have thought of this in um in Portlandia. I mean, that is that is wild. Uh, let's see. Move closer to November ballot. Will someone get you guys are Oh, here we go. Let's see. Maybe I can get it finally. Oh my lord. What? Trying to find the uh the the writing the the uh the way they wrote this is like trying to find Jimmy Hawer. Here we go. Jeez Louise. Uh, let's see. IP28 blah blah blah complete. Okay, here we go. Now we're getting there. This is the This is the investigative reporting you get on the air. You get to see me click button. How's that that we should call this instead of wake up we should call watch D Simone click buttons. How's that for compelling? All right, here we go. Elimination of animal cruelty exemptions. People for the elimination of animal cruelty exemptions. Peace. Uh, let's see. Let's get to it. Adequate bedding, adequate shelter, barnhouse, barn, dog, or other enclosed in structure to protect the animal from wind, rain, snow, or uh wind, rain, snow, or sun. Adequate bedding against cold and dampness. Adequate shelter does not include crawl spaces, space under vehicles, animal carriers. Okay, so they have a whole bunch about your dog. Animal means any nonhuman mammal. So nonhuman mammal is located to this. Um domestic animal means animal other than livestock or other than an animal other than livestock or equines. Equin means it. Uh, what else do we this is I mean who would sign this? You got 120. I mean this thing's so long. I mean, I guess it's just you just got to say, "Hey, we're protecting the animals, right?" Uh, livestock minimum care. Let's see. I want to get to this thing's unbelievable. Um, I don't have time to read all this. This is unbelievable. I It's so long. I can't I can't I just can't read it all. It's just unbelievable. Anyway, thank you, Oregon. I guess I I I set this over to Dennis because the guy who wrote the book that just came out called Oregoners, they just they just they just fulfilled this book in in one move here. 120,000 people. It's wild, dude. It is wild.

All right, we're going to get to KVOA now. And this has to do with a dude who owns a couple of uh couple of uh barber shops. Um, Bruce, rats, snakes, skunks, you know something? Maybe. Uh, supporters of anti-animal castration have a position on the con castration of underage humans because they're gender confused. There's a lot of truth to that. What will happen when the deer population overruns everything? Again, unintended consequences. Um, all right, Tina, I know you asked me that before. I got to remember to say it uh on the um in the farm bill. I appreciate that. Um Neil, it's a war against rural Oregonians, right? That'd be actually Neil makes up a good point, right? How many of those all came from like the Portland area and how um let's see, slag, I understand what I think I know what you're saying, Keith. Um all right, now we're going to get to Mr. Garcia, who owns two barber shops, and we're going to uh we're going to see we're going to see how the streets of Tucson are doing lately uh with this uh wonderful management by Puma County and friends. So, let's do it, my friend.

>> Mooney. >> From people defecating on his property to fires being started in the parking lot, the owner of a popular Tucson barber shop chain says homeless activity around two of his shops has gotten out of control. News4 Tucson's Monica Garcia goes searching for solutions to the unsheltered crisis once again as the business owner is now calling on city leaders to take a stronger enforcement approach. >> Drug kids drug problem. >> That's right, Sean. The owner of two sons for men barber shop says that the location at Grant and Campbell along with his east side shop near Broadway and Camino Seco have been hit the hardest by homeless activity over the last 5 years. For decades, Two Sons for Men Barberh Shop has served southern Arizona, expanding to four locations. >> But owner Danny Garcia says being a local business owner isn't what it used to be. >> The whole city notices what's going on, and I think that I think it's just become too acceptable. >> Garcia says in the last couple of years, conditions have declined around two of his Tucson locations due to homeless activity, like seen here in this video from his Grant and Campbell location. a naked homeless man walking near his property. >> East side's changed. It's not the same east side. >> Garcia says it's just one of many incidents mostly centered around his east side location at Broadway and Camino Seco. >> Well, in the last 5 years has gotten worse where the the homeless will start fires around the parking lot at night. They'll break into the lines. They'll they'll pull copper lines off the building. They'll defecate in the parking lot. They'll leave needles in the parking lot. This location has been here since 1999. But Garcia says despite recent revitalization efforts in this area, the biggest problems continue to be property damage. >> What's that saying? You can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. It's the the area the corner there looks great, but you still have huge homeless problems there. >> He says what frustrates him the most as we go searching for solutions to the unsheltered crisis is what he believes is a lack of enforcement. They should be prosecuted, put in jail, get them off the streets, and then that's your solution. Helping them that way. Okay. Not allowing them to continue to do what they're doing. >> He says he's reached out to War 2 Councilman Paul Cunningham, but never heard back. >> We went through all of our emails and all of our phone logs, and I don't have a phone call from him for a minute. I'm not saying that he didn't call. I'm saying that we just don't have a record of it. Uh we but my office goes out and engages people in homeless camps every other week. We host an open walk-in with social workers every Wednesday from 8:30 to 10:30. Uh we do everything we can to engage folks where they are and talk to them about considering detox. >> We also asked Cunningham about claims the city is not taking a strong enough enforcement approach. >> Uh we have a pretty good track record responding to anybody who contacts our office. There's always a few that fall through the cracks, but it's very very um unusual and unlikely. >> Cuttingham says the city continues working to balance enforcement with outreach as leaders try to address public safety concerns while also connecting people to services. >> It doesn't take a rock of scientists to see how Tucson's changed in the last 5 10 years and who's the leadership. >> Amen. And so with that, Garcia says because of his experience with what he calls a lack of enforcement, he has no plans to expand any more shops in our area. Sean. >> All right. Thank you, Monica. And as we continue searching for solutions to this, >> thank you, Danny Garcia. But again, when uh hold on. We got we got one of Danny's customers. Uh Danny cuts my hair at the OV store and it's great. Happy to be in the OV. Yeah, you think life's a little different in the Now again, Tucson's Mess is coming to the OV. I don't know if you guys know this, but encourage your friends to vote for this guy. He's amazing. Um Chris King just said his newest shops in OV. Yeah, we got to get Danny on the show, man. That that Cunningham line. Now, first of all, KVOA, stop it. Stop it. Stop saying the unsheltered crisis. You sound like Raa. You're literally doing what they want you to do. Let me quote Dylan Smith. Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, which he never does anyway, but I remember him saying that one time. It's some other famous journalist guy, newsperson said this years ago. Um, so the dude, uh, what is what's the dude got here? Hold on. We got some dude here. Um, where he talks about we have walk-ins on walk-in Wednesday and we go out and see the homeless every other week. Did you notice the word police enforcement never came out of mouth breather's mouth breathing mouth? Danny Garcia, what you're say what that what's that saying? You put a lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. That's what we're talking about, sir. Okay. We open We have a We host an open walk-in with social workers every Wednesday for two hours. Check the box. Hey bro, we got two hours where the social workers are here, man. We can engage folks and talk to them about considering detox. Imagine you're whacked out on meth, fentanyl, cocaine, or all three. Here comes dude, Mr. Wannabe athlete in his U of A gear. You think it's like the slee one of the sleacks from uh Land of the Lost if you're cracked out that bad, right? He's like, "Hey, bro. Have you ever considered detox?" What? This again, as Yoda would say, I don't I'm going to hurt myself. This is why you fail, right? This is a joke. But this is the stuff coming up to our communities in Morirana and Oral Valley. Someone was uh was asking she was telling me at a u at an event, one of the reasons Chris needs to be on this council is someone needs to work with my good friend Mary Murphy who she's trying her best but she's outgunned out there, right? I need a council in Oro Valley that one knows how to stand up to reasonably to the rest of the region, right, who is ruining our community in various ways. and also uh have someone be able to in an intelligent reasonable way stand up to a variety of staff members who they they uh in relation to what they are selling to this council just doesn't smell right and I will tell you when you see them approve the tourism plan for Oro Valley but if you ever watched any of our meetings no one on the really maybe I can't speak for all of us but there's at least three or four of us who think the tourism efforts of staff is pretty much crap and they just sit there and go, "Oh, this is this is wonderful." Yeah, we we we we need to upgrade we need to upgrade the uh people who are asking hard questions and they're they're they're uh not getting uh they they need to really scrutinize what staff is selling them sometimes for Oral Valley to get better. But this junk that we just talked about with Danny Garcia here with the city of Tucson again, I I I can do it again. I can do that. Um I can do that um that video that Josh Jacobson did at Latoya and McGee. That'll freak you out. That will freak you out. If you I I the amount of the drug stuff that's at the underneath that little chud city at Lchoy and McGee at the at the Nini Wash as we like to call it. It's right on your doorstep. They're coming up the washes and they're coming off those buses. Hey, in the summer it used to die down maybe a little bit because it was, you know, it's so hot to walk up Oracle Road. Now they got an airconditioned uh drug bathroom bus to take up to and Oracle or the Kohl's uh just a little further north than that. That's why you need to vote for a guy like Christopher D. Simone. The Wakies know it. I love my town, but you know something. It's time to up our game. Time to up our game.

Let's do some holidays. Then we're going to go to break and then we're going to go talk to David Schwikert, Niels the private detective, and Dr. Gerson Rano, one of our favorite uh university presidents. All right, it's International Burger Day. It's And so it this goes back to CJ Ham and I on the Tucson Foodies about who has the best hamburger. It's it's asked every seven hours in the Tucson Foodies page, Facebook page, and I guess they don't know how to use the search function. But again, let's be real. Here's your Here's Here's D. Simone's top burgers. And you guys can tell me in the live chat what do you think the best burger is. I'm fine with that. But let's just get real. The best burger is Divine Boine, Lindy, or Charo Steak. Those to me are the top three in the region. Now, there are other ones that are just fine. I like what my boy Brian does at the at the Highlands at Dove Mountain. Great burger. Very, very good burger. Right. Um I've I I'm almost going to sound like that guy on Facebook that goes, "Well, my own kitchen." You know, I've learned the art of smash of a smash burger on a Blackstone outside. It's pretty damn good. It's pretty damn good. But to me, it's Divine Boine, Lindy, Charo Steak, and the Charo State burger is $19 at dinnertime. It's I think it's like a half pound. It's a It's a good chunk of beef. It's beautiful beef. A great big beautiful beef. But happy hour before 6 on a weekday, they knock off five bucks at 14 bucks. Ow. In this day and age, if you're wasting time at cold burgers and whatever and you're not going to char, you've lost your mind. Um, and again, there's a variety of fast food places out there. I know a lot of people like Steak Shack. I haven't been to a steak shack in eons, but um, In-N-Out Burger. Uh, the slugs returned from Capistrano Day. I didn't know that was a thing. It's Menstrual Hygiene Day, Amnesty International Day, and then it's National Brisket Day. It's a bittersweet day in National Brisket Day because I don't know who does a consistently good smoke brisket anymore in in our in our region. We've had this discussion about barbecue in this town and brisket brisket is where we have problems.

Rob Lamaster and I have tried looking for brisket. And what you usually get at a barbecue place in Tucson is they give you three strips of something that feels like you tasted an old belt, uh, a belt, a leather belt. You get three strips of that and subpar sides. $24. So again, help me out. Where in the world?

I heard my Aggie's Barbecue closed at Muns Park. So I got Joe's Barbecue. Uh I don't know. Everyone's talking about this barbecue place. I don't know if it's good, bad, or indifference, but we always seem to have a barbecue place that pops up. Sergio, black market barbecue is the only consistent I've found since Red Desert Close. Is that what you're saying? Is that what you mean by Reds? Oh, Red. Oh, no. Oh, not that Red's bar. Are you talking about that Red's Barbecue? That's CJ Red's Barbecue. Black Market. Is that a truck or I feel like that's a truck, right? Uh, Black Market Barbecue Tucson. food truck. Okay. So, Valencia and Co, it looks like he hangs out a lot, Sergio. Is that what we're saying? Says he's been around since 2018. Okay. All right. Black Mark B Marketet Barbecue is uh what Mr. uh Mr. Sergio saying. So, we shall see.

Big Dave Cunningham's a joke. Kind of redundant. Uh, officer Lori and Tucson police run the homeless out of my neighborhood and they are back the next day. Right. There's no pro there. No, no one's taking this ser when when he said come on by Wednesdays for social worker morning for 120 minutes and that's the answer. And they're like, geez, why doesn't anyone move their company to Tucson? That's weird. Let's go to break. David Schwhiker, Niels Grailius, followed by um um followed by Dr. Gerson Rano, our favorite university president. Sergio, it's a truck simple. Does caps and corks often in the Thornyale Orange Grove area? >> Okay, we're learning. You're on Live the Dream Media. Christy Simone, Shay Schwiker coming up soon. This is Wake Up with Christ D. Simone, only on the Live the Dream Media Network.

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You're listening to Wake Up with Christopher D. Simone on the Live the Dream Media Network, Southern Arizona's premier live talk and online radio. Hold on. There we go. I got some Algusto coffee. That's Guda. That is Gouda. Hold on. I got to lower my stuff here. Tomorrow again, Max the intern will be here. worked me and Joe for actually we met Max the intern in the old days. He was uh who um Dimmitri got him involved in Tanner's campaign in 2012. He has his masters of uh public administration from the UVA. He did some economic development work in Colorado and now he's back in his hometown of Huntington Beach. He's the head of their uh he is actually the president and CEO of our uh of their chamber of commerce in Huntington Beach which is one of the finest communities in the western well especially in California which is not he's no it's it's just beautiful out there and they uh they're like patriotic uh weirdos out there which I like in Huntington Beach also. So hold on let me let me get my headphones on before I murder myself here. Here we go. We have in front of the Cubert wall our good friend uh Dr. Schwhiker here and I David and I will be reconvening together in a few hours. You're speaking at the Puma County Women's Republican Club and uh I will be there. >> Yay. I look forward to it. Actually, um I was going to start. >> What's your biggest surprise? You're now you're running for council. >> Yes. >> What has surprised you doing it? >> Was there something you didn't expect? Um, you know, it's hard. >> Didn't mean it to be a trick question. I just thought it was interesting. >> It's not a trick question. You're making me think, which is good. >> Um, you know, as a guy who has been doing this for so long in the political sphere, not just I've worked with campaigns and things like that, right? Yeah. >> So, there's dynamics. The thing that I I guess if there's a surprise, I really enjoyed and people other candidates tell me I'm weird when I say this. I really enjoyed the signature gathering side of this. It really I had so many unexpected cool conversations and there's so many like like uh like stories and taglines from what they told me during the signature process that I still use today. Right. Hey, you nailed you nailed something that's actually very important. And this is going to sound oneoff from what we complain about. >> Gathering signatures and actually raising money. >> It forces you as a candidate to talk to people. You got to show up at the office. And I still one of my favorite stories is I I was a young man. I did two terms in the state legislature. When it was first running, I had to sit with a podiatrist in Scottsdale who had to tell me for an hour how his business worked to get $200. And it turns out it was actually interesting. I had no understanding before that of the rules and the regs and he could only look at this even though he had a medical degree for this. um or even gathering signatures when you're standing out in front of the gun show or the RV show or this and that and some of the random parts of the questions you get >> um really do get your brain going. >> There's a there's a there's a line that a lady gave me. Her name is Annette. She was in her 70s, lived in Oral Valley for 20 years, and I'm I'm getting her input, right? What do you think of the our town? And she had this amazing line that I still use today that gets half of the place goes whoa, right? and she said,"I don't feel like we're a town anymore. I feel like we're a 48,000 person homeowners association >> as an attitude." Right? >> And so when you say that, the groups, they go, >> "Wow, that's that's kind of hits that kind of she kind of nailed it, right? The stagnant attitude of our town that we're going to change when I get on there." And uh God, >> it's tricky building a sense of community. I mean, uh look, you and I have been doing this now for over a decade and a half. Yeah. >> Um, I think about the Republican party I grew up in. Um, and I would argue in some ways it was actually more conservative, but it was more of an understanding of economics and freedom and, you know, and God-given rights and those sorts of things, but there was more of a sense of community. >> Yeah. >> In, you know, you'd have these three-hour district meetings, but we would talk about your favorite portion of the Constitution, what it meant. today, you know, much of uh Republican politics comes through a fake bot on your cell phone, >> right? >> You know, so if you can build a sense of community, um you know, you will have done something very very special. >> Yeah. It's kind of part of the plan when I get there is we we we do community building events that we do a lot of check the box events. We must do Fourth of July and then we do this and it always it always looks the same, feels the same. Right. We don't, you know, and so we we we it's it's about we we have we have a we have a town manager that's I would just say is weak and um we have a a council that doesn't uh want to manage him too much even though that's one of their primary responsibilities. So we'll get there. We'll get there. Um all right. I have some questions from uh from viewers that want me to ask you this before I forgot. Um, can you please, this is from Tina, please ask David why he voted for the gly glyophate immunity protection for companies in the farm bill. >> Yeah, if you actually look at and actually read the amendment, it was the California language. So you have this duplicity out there and it and remember it wasn't about it was a labeling bill and it was a labeling bill like in California to basically empower trial lawyers. So you you got this irony out here. So many people thought it was about taking on um the chemical. It wasn't. It was about labeling for it. and and and have you you got this wonderful irony of don't California, you know, take adopt the California rules for my state and the rest of the country. And then what we do is we grab California language and that's the amendments out there. Um, would have been happy to vote for something it actually did something of, you know, you got to publish the research, you got to, you know, disclose this, you got to disclose this, but it was a labeling bill. Um, and it was being completely falsely marketed. It was the California language. >> Well, we're starting to say don't Tucson are Morirana and don't Tucson our Oral Valley. So, it's it's >> But this is But this is another example of what I I had some friends send me what they were seeing on X and then I would send them back saying, "Here's the actual language." It doesn't do that. They thought it did something more than just sticking a label and then creating a tort liability. Um, so the local trial lawyers can sue you. I think we've covered this before, but Noah wants me to ask you the value proposition for state residents to pay more to go to instate universities in Arizona over cheaper outofstate tuition in other states. um instate tuition is still I I I won't say reasonable but um you remember particularly for uh universities like ASU it's become a real estate venture in some ways if you you see how many buildings they have um state constitution makes it very very clear you have to make things as affordable as possible now we always have the dispute with the border regions and the legislature and the governor's office what's affordable as possible and one of the things um U of ASU and AU do is by recruiting out of state students which pay much higher tuitions um they sort of subsidize back and forth um I really do think there should be a fixation not on the next shiny object um but really two things affordability with the quality and The second thing I would really like to see our universities start fixating on helping us make Arizona better, >> right? >> Um, you know, there was such a think think of the incredible amount of money it was spent on chasing, you know, green research money in the previous decade and those things and then soon as some of that money dried up, they move immediately moved on to something else. It was felt much more like chasing the money than actually helping us saying, "Hey, um, can you be the university for Arizona and making us do, you know, our health care, our our government, our transportation? Help us do it the very best possible." >> Well, there's always been this dynamic with the universities and, you know, being in Tucson, you see the University of Arizona, they're like the Vatican, right? Like there's invisible walls. They're not really part of this community at times, but at the same time, they are having crashing uh freshman classes, right? So, the U of A couple of years ago was like 11,000 plus. They're talking about 6,000 incoming freshmen. This >> but but remember, you got multiple things going on now. Um, this coming year will be the first year I believe there will be fewer under 18 in America >> than there were 20 years ago. >> Yeah. >> And so when you have universities, not just in Arizona, all across the country, they make their money off the undergraduates because, you know, research, you know, when you start to get grad students, they're much more expensive. Student professor ratios, those things. What happens when there's a lot fewer to recruit? And you know, and how many people have you met saying, you know, I've been a freshman three times. I I'm there for 6 months. I drop out. I'm there for I come back out on probation. I do this. That turn also it's we it's ugly to say this is part of the financing model. >> Yeah. How how about I I never like the regents board of regents style of governance, right? And the last time we looked at the board of regents, I think there was only one or two people that had anything to do with education and five of them were lobbyists on there. So, how do we how do we change the board of regions? We call them the board of rodents lovingly here on this show. Um, >> I I actually I I'm not as concerned about the border regions model as I am the talents we put on it, if that makes sense. Um, you know, part of part of the idea was, you know, the legislature, even the governors sometimes can have whims and there's frustrations and trying to build sort of a consistent approach and goals and vision. Okay, that's you're going to build a border regions. Does it become does it become an organization where you reward your friends? >> Yes. >> You reward your contributors? >> Yes. >> You reward or do you try to actually put as much talent on it? And and and how do you do it where they're not Yes. people? >> They actually have a vision that sometime is disharmonous with education administration. And and I would argue that I'm not being mean. Sometimes that friction, a little bit of that friction is how you get to the most sensible approach, solution, vision. >> Amen. And there's nothing they never say no to, right? Outrageous contracts for sports people, presidents, uh, payouts for these people on these crazy ass contracts. They never say no. They never say go back to the They never say go back to the drawing board on this one. Just once. Just go back. >> Well, all right. Can I give you um a a quick vision of why I I feel this way? 2017, I'm on Ways and Means. We're about to rewrite the US tax code for the first time in 30 plus years. >> Um ASU has built a decision theater in Tempe and one in Washington DC. >> And this is where you load up all your data and you can see it on all these screens. I bring over the leadership of Congress and the leadership of the Ways and Means Committee and we sit down and say, "How would you like to be the university um that helps us model and and rewrite the US tax code?" This is a big deal. This is really hard to do. And everyone's in for it. And we're walking out the door and saying, "When can we expect our quarter million dollar to pay them for helping us?" and and it broke my heart because it was absolutely humiliating. Um, you know, three days later, we just picked up the phone, we called Yale, Yale's bud budget labs, and they did it for free. >> Yeah. >> When you've built a system where um everything has to be, you know, a check associated with it. You only do things where there's a check associated with it instead of things that are really good for the state, the community, even the national government. You're my you're you're the closest thing I have to some sort of tech futurist on this show. What what is what does David think the future of college education should look like in the next how how I have a bit of >> yeah how do they modify the way they do business over the next >> okay let's actually walk through with what's going on in Arizona right now and tie it together um did you see the front page of the Wall Street Journal yesterday >> uh >> over the full over the fold whole story about and it was more Phoenix-based but they meant really all of Arizona that we became the back office you know over the last 15 years you know whether it be call him hi welcome back to the live the dream media I know now that's that's a whole we got two different things that's David's that's David's phone connection that one I know a few of you said there is a issue with being on YouTube uh Shay actually just slacked me and said everything's good on our side. Again, it's coincidence that David's phone dropped out, but it's a YouTube thing. Chris King is saying, "Just restart your your YouTube and it's fine." So, something something screwed up with YouTube if you're watching. Everything's good on the app. So, and other places, so you can check it out. David had an amazing answer about education. East Side Don was on the phone with a question for David that I was gonna get to. Let's bring Shay. While we're waiting for David, bring on East Side Don. I'll get his question and then we'll ask David when he comes back. >> All right, I'm back. >> No, and I'm sorry about that. Do you know what happened? Um, a call came in and it shut everything down. >> Well, I'm that it happens. You're >> Yeah, I probably All right, but let's just do this one really quickly. Um, big story, Wall Street Journal yesterday about how unemployment is really growing in Arizona because many of the jobs we set up over the last 15 years of we're going to create these middle class jobs, back office, you know, call centers, um, bookkeeping, those things, those are being automated, sent out of the country. How do you take your university and say, "Does everyone have to sit in a seat for four years or online to get a four-year degree to basically why don't we do and you're going to have to take on the accreditation organizations?" And I've been doing that for years. Yeah. >> And they're well financed, well lobbyed. One of the great conversations I had with one of the university presidents is we were talking about a friend of mine who's was at that time like number three at Oracle and she was saying all I want is to hire a smart person. I love hiring your computer science engineers but then I spend two years getting them an Oracle DBA. Why don't you take your universities and from day one train them for an Oracle DBA? I'm going to pay them great salaries and then they can go do their, you know, cultural sensitivity classes on their own. And the answer from that university, um, actually president was hysterical. Oh, David, you don't understand. I'll piss off my liberal arts professors if I even advocate for that. >> Right? So, it wasn't about what's good for society, what's good for this class of folks that we've been piling up debt on, being able to give them the skill sets so they're marketable, so they can get those good paying jobs and then they can use that income any way they want. If they want cultural enrichment or maybe save up and buy a house and much of our university model is, you know, 100 plus years old and it was originally designed for a very elite class. Um, I look forward to sort of a revolution of it's about the skills and your ability to get good employment. Um, it's not about the vanity and how do you move that as a policy. I've had this conversation before with my friend Tony Ford who's way smarter than than me and we've talked about that accreditation problem and his take was some univers some credible university has to go in partnership with one of these big companies whether it's Google, Oracle, whoever it is and they're going to have to come up with their own two-year program that is certified by the company and screw the accreditation. You actually I think Grand Canyon is already experimenting with a couple of those types of programs right now. >> So they're being much more innovative. >> All right, let's get Eastside Don on the phone for David Schwer. East Side Don, you're on with Congressman David Schwikert. What's up? >> What? He had to leave. >> Oh, I'm sick of him in his life. Jeez. >> Do Do you know what Do you know what East Side wanted? >> I did not I did not know. Sad to say. Sad to say. Uh, I got my D I got my D Simone sign accompanied by a Schwikert sign. The Schwikert elves came overnight on Memorial Day Monday and I woke up to do the show on Tuesday and your sign was next to my sign. So, the two look two psychos. >> It's been a w it's been a wild experience. Um, you know, I think we're well over 10,000 yard signs in front of people's homes now. And you know it you you're going through it. Think of the organizational effort when an average volunteer can only do maybe 15 20 yard signs a night >> and we even wrote an app to to give you directions. >> Um and then divide 10 thou just 10,000 by 20 and you start to realize the number of manh hours it starts to go into doing something like this. >> What's the current volume of uh yard sign requests right now? Wow. >> Um, we we get about 250 to 400 a week. >> Okay. >> Um, so you got to stay on top of it all the time. >> The um what you know, we've talked about changing dynamics in this governor's race. What's a what's what's an indicator for you as you're going around the state? What's some indicators that you feel like this is starting to turn into a uh competitive race? And everyone who said don't worry again we talked about all those people taking the 200 you know the the uh the text message and there's 200 text messages in response and say Schwiker's out of it get them out. >> Okay let let's actually first let's touch on this and and this no I'll ask no one to listen to this because it's just you and I. >> Sure. >> Um polling is remarkably expensive. real polls. A real poll in a statewide governor's race, $20,000. A big poll, $38,000. >> Let me ask you, >> what what is the technique? If if we know the text polls are crap, what is what is a real poll look like? >> You have to make phone calls, >> right? >> And and here's your reason is I send out a text message. Can I verify, you know, male, female, age, these sorts of things. You can do that when you have an interviewer. Um, because you're often looking at a list, you know, is this Bob Smith, da da da da, and you have that voter file and you already have a bunch of the profile. When you send out the text, you don't know if it's the kids, if it's an old phone number, if it's just random. And now there's another perversity out there in some of these text polling. now where I'll pretend to be a marketing company, but I'm going to pretend to do some text to try to sell my services. I will pay 100 people 25 bucks. >> And you agree that you'll respond to this text when I send it to you. >> Wonderful. >> Well, now you have a stagnant sample and that sample also doesn't adjust for the mix you believe you're going to see in your turnout. Remember, a poll is more than just how the questions are written. It's also the model for the turnout. Okay, that that's sort of geeky. No, >> that's um and and you should actually realize uh for anyone just sort of looking where's all the television ads? Where's all the signs? You know, where's the doortodoor? Where's this is a somewhat unusual race. um you know the sort of the the you know the the polls where you only get the text poll where you only get the most active of the active of the activists >> who are often on the they're often only ones on the list too um responding and we saw that we see this in races all over the country now um traditional conservatives that are working that are trying to make a living you know taking care of their kids their grandkids those things they're not going to respond ond um so you don't have a way to adjust your population. Our expectation and I'm actually not allowed to know. I I do know there will be some outside groups stepping into the race, >> right? >> But they're going to do it as late as possible. Um and so you sit there sort of with baited breath waiting saying, "Is today the day you start to see outside groups also advertising in your race?" >> Gotcha. All right, my friend. I will see you in a few hours at the Pimac County Women's Republican lunch. If you They do have a few tickets left. So, you can go to pcrwc.com and if you're going to get a last minute ticket, I do it in the next hour or so because they got to make people's lunch and crap like that. So, uh but check this this stud out at 12:00 noon today at the La Paloma Country Club and and they'll make sure they make extra coffee for you. Yeah, it's a I I'm only on my third. >> Wow. Wow. David, good talking to you as always, sir. We'll talk. >> I'll see you I'll see you in a few hours. >> You got it, buddy. Later, US Congressman David Schwiker. We're going to go to quick break. Niels Grailius in as we speak. I got a lot of stuff to talk with Niels before we talk to Dr. Gerson Rano at the top of the hour. So, it's getting really busy busy busy busy. Falling.

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It's more of Wake Up with Christ D. Simone on the Live the Dream Media Network. Now back to the show. All right, my friends. Welcome back to Live the Dream Media Network. Christopher D. Simone, and we got to get right to it. Our good friend Niels Grailius, private investigator to the stars in the great state of California, excuse me, the decaying state of California. And um he's got his book coming out real soon. June 9th, The Last Law Man. There he is. Look at him with his Nike shirt. Just do it, baby. Just do it. Hey, bud. How are you? >> I don't think I've ever enjoyed a nicer day, Mr. Desimone. How are things in Tucson, Arizona? >> Uh the city of Tucson still decrepit and devolving. Oro Valley getting better with a D Simone win in uh in July. That's all I'll tell you. That's where we're at. So >> uh I fully support a Dimone victory. >> Thank you, sir. >> Uh I got a lot of stuff to cover with Mr. Niels in about 20some minutes. So I'm going to go. Spencer Pratt running for mayor has run an interesting campaign, right? And I saw this story on this blog called Pirate Wires, but there was a couple of lines that I really liked that the author said about the Pratt campaign talking about the the nature of politics in Los Angeles. He's shattering. I love this phrase, the honesty taboo. And he has showing the power of a local politician who talks about local politics. So, give me the give me the nils take on Pratt and of course every all these lefties freaking out about Spencer Pratt. >> Well, I was thinking about all these lefties freaking out about Spencer Pratt. They should freak out. And I'll tell you why. Spencer Pratt has taken a Hoochi Min approach to uh advertising his candidacy. He breaks every single rule. He doesn't care what the mainstream uh political media says of him. In fact, he throws it right back at him at them. He he takes them on for for driving Karen Bass's uh getaway car. >> He um I like that. >> You know, he he he's a master of caricature. He knows how to ridicule them ruthlessly and relentlessly. And he has a few allies, gorilla allies in the in the Hispanic community who are launching a lot of these AI videos in Spanish and then allies in the Persian comm community doing it in Farsy. >> Wow. Um, and it really stings them because they've been able to to the the powers that be, I hate using that term, uh, have a lot of protection from local uh, political media, KTLA, KNX, KABC, the Los Angeles Times, uh, to a certain extent the Daily News, which isn't much of a newspaper anymore. It used to be the Valley Green Sheet back in the day. Uh, I will say that uh they would do anything they could to suppress these videos. And I I point out pretty regularly to my my cohort of savages here in Los Angeles that just a couple of years ago these videos would be suppressed on on ex formerly Twitter and on Meta. In fact, you'd probably be banned for sharing them under the theory of stoastic terrorism that words are violence. You know, if you get in the face of a Democrat politician, you're obviously deeply threatening to the to the bipox of Los Angeles, and you have to be ruthlessly suppressed. Well, Spencer Pratt isn't backing down. I think this man can win, >> right? Well, so there was there's there's so many dynamics that are similar with LA and Tucson, and I love the media driving the the getaway car for Karen Bass. That is a great line. Uh there was a story uh it was an op-ed in the USA Today. I don't even know it was still a newspaper, but the lady said that she loves everything that Spencer Pratt is saying. He's dead on, but I can't vote for him, but I did. I'm going to vote and donate to Neithra Ramen. And I'm sitting there going, how do you say you This is like perfect, right? Everything Spencer is saying is correct, but Neithra's ne uh Nithia, excuse me, isn't much better than Karen Bass. Correct. >> Um it's like trying to measure what's tastier, poodle poop or German shepherd poop. I mean, what you know, and I don't want to get too too far this down this road with your audience, but that's that's a choice. Do you want to be shot in the head or do you want to be shot in the jaw? I mean, what is it here? Nthia Ramen is an out Marxist, a DSA Marxist who has more political uh positions than the Kama Sutra. Okay. A couple of years ago, she was all for defunding the police and now she's she's a big proponent of the LAPD temporarily right up until they do something uh close to enforcing the law. Okay. Um, so we have the primary, the jungle primary thing is coming up what, next week soon, >> the 2nd of June. >> Okay. Yeah. Seven days before Last Law Man comes out. How's that for a quick promo? >> That sounds fantastic to me. Now, I I'm going to say now in Los Angeles, the city, the people running the city don't want voter identification of any kind. In fact, it's a form of racism and white supremacy to to demand voter identification. So, if you want to mount up a bus of people moving in from Tucson for a day to vote in the election, you can do so. I mean, we're a very tolerant and inclusive area here. And uh nobody's going to check anything, you know. So, uh not that I would violate a law or anything like that. And I want to point out that nothing is really illegal in California anymore other than maybe beating up crossdressers in the men's room at Griffith Park. >> Wow, you got the lines are happening today. More positions than the Kama Sutra. That is Damn, that's a good one, too. Um, I'm not going to explain to you guys the Kasutra and ever. >> That's Barney Brennan's job. >> God dang. How's that for Barney's next next appearance on the show? Hey Barney, tell us about the Sutra. Good living. Um I saw there was a um an assassination attempt on Ivanka Trump. Is that what is that? Well, there's been a long longstanding long range operation of uh the Iranian proxies uh in various countries including Iran. Iran has proxies within Iran but in Iraq to avenge the death of Sullemani and it fell in their lap because Slemani went to room temperature in Iraq. And so they have decided that Ivanka Trump is a a legitimate uh target of uh Iranian uh revenge for the death of Sullemani who was a uniformwearing you know cadre leader. >> The uh I think that there is an authentic danger here and I'm going to point something out. There is an alliance between the red and the green. The communists have oozed their way into bed a long time ago with the jihad. If you look at the the lawyers who defended the blind sheck in 1993, the guy who launched the first World Trade Center attack, they are outright Marxist. National Lawyers Guild, Lynn Stewart, that sort of thing. She was even carrying his coded communicates out of out of the prison lockup for his followers. She was muing, you know, terrorism instructions >> and ultimately wound up getting disbarred and going to prison for her efforts. But so there is an alliance between the hard left and the jihad. What if it's that Shakespearean line of will no one rid me of this medalsome priest where they they plan an operation? They can talk to all of the intelligence operations necessary to carry it out. yet rely on a proxy who is an American to conduct the attack. We've seen Americans launch attacks. Uh leftists launch attacks like the one Luigi Manion is accused of. How about Ilas Rodriguez, the Chicago communist whose father is a big labor organizer in Chicago who killed the two Israeli embassy staffers or is accused of it. Anyway, uh how about uh Wesley Ralph, Thomas Krooks? Uh how about this amazing uh school teacher from Torrance who tried to assassinate Trump at the White House Correspondents dinner, right? So, they don't even have to take instructions. All they need is a little prompting and, you know, an extra toque on the uh on the THC vape and away they go. the um now it is not Shakespeare, it's King Henry II reportedly said that and his boys killed St. Thomas Beckett at church just to let you know. So just in the future, the the medals and priest uh line. Um, so I am fascinated with what you're saying here, right? Where the the you have leftists in America who have embraced this jihad thing, right? and and of course re you know the queers for Palestine is still one of my favorite um kind of uh manifestations of that. So what's so what so it's is it do they see each other that they have a common enemy? Is that is that what brings them together? >> That's the extent of their consanguinity. I mean what happens if they achieve perfect power? Can they share power? If they uh wi within their alliance they overthrow the government of the United States. Which of the two rules? >> Right. >> Okay. Uh Ayatollah Kmeni in 1979 was heralded by the left and the west as a as a great thinker. I mean there was some oped in the New York Times about how he was going to change the whole world for the better. >> Okay. Um he used Leninist tactics to overthrow the sha and it was the Iranian middle class including uh more than a plurality of their Jews who overthrew the sha only to be immediately ruthlessly suppressed by kadres. So, I'm looking at your looking at the notes here. S the suspect, Iraqi national, ties to the IRGC in Hezbollah, captured and extra extradited. Where was he captured and where was he extradited to? >> Uh, he was extradited to New York City. He's in Southern District uh uh metropolitan detention. The the Turks handed handed the boy over. >> Ah, gotcha. Okay. Um, >> I promise I promise you he's going to have communist lawyers. >> Um, he uh talked about killing Ivanka, detailed plans of her residence, and said made threats that neither the Secret Service or security could protect her. What does that mean? >> Well, I mean, it it it might be just him announcing his own power, you know, counting coup in advance of the attack. Uh, it could also serve to make the Trump people feel more insecure about their own position, that sort of thing. It might be coded uh language meant for the American hard left. Look uh look how weak the Secret Service is. They can't uh wind their watch and and relieve themselves at the same time. So, go ahead and take your shot. Um, what's your what's your uh what's your faith that this guy will get any sort of um real punishment for any of this before it's over? >> Well, it depends on uh ultimately who's impled in the jury. If they conduct the trial in DC or or New York, he'll probably get some sort of an award from Michael Moore or something. >> Uh Bev up in Catalina, love when Niels is on. Ok copy. I'm curious which position Neils likes. We're not asking that question. Wait, I don't want I don't want the answer. Um, back back to Barney and Who knew we're going to have Barney in the Karma Sutra will be one of our our new subjects on show. >> Joy's young, you know, Barney's a good guy. I I introduced him to my editors and I think they've commissioned the man to edit a book already. I mean, Barney's a great American. Let's Let's not sell Barney short. I'm not I'm sure you're the one who brought up him in the Kabutra. I didn't bring up >> the man is an expert at all things. That's that's what you need to know. Okay. >> Now, here's a story I wanted to talk to you about. I don't know if you know this. Her name is Alisa Valdez Rodriguez. She's a Boston Globe LA Times reporter turned novelist. and she was doing she spent months uh investigating the Epstein Zoro ranch in New Mexico. Okay. And she says that she has been um left with symptoms matching Havana syndrome and forced to abandon her New Mexican residence because she's been assaulted by two direct energy weapon attacks. What is a have What is a direct energy attack? I think Donald Trump described this particular weapon as the discombobul uh after the thing in Venezuela where they uh where the the the boys from Devgrrew or Delta or whatever went in and captured Maduro and put all of his Cuban uh security detail into final retirement. I think they scrambled or suppressed the Cubans using the Cuban own weapon that has been acquired by the CIA. If I if I'm to believe what I have read, Christopher, now has this reporter been subjected to it? I don't know. It exists within the realm of possibility but not probability. It could just be uh paranoid delusion. And I have seen a lot of this with people go too far down the rabbit hole on conspiracy work. They start seeing enemies that are not there. And I want all of your listeners to know that if they ever feel lonely, paranoia is a good way to cure loneliness because you'll never really be alone once you're paranoid. She said that basically that um she's mentioning a backpacksized uh device that was placed on her roof, she says. But I guess she I don't know if she actually again I I remember the discombobulator. It's just interesting that this woman says she was hit by the direct energy uh weapons kind of thing. So >> it could it could very well be. I don't want to make it too humorous here Mr. Desimone because there is a a small possibility that she is correct. I mean it was used on our security personnel and embassy personnel in Havana, hence the term, you know, Havana syndrome. And it is my belief that the

That the people from CIA or special warfare did capture or replicate one of these devices for the use of our special warfare teams. Now, I don't believe that Delta Force or Devgru of the Navy Seals has have done this to her. If uh she was subjected to something like this, it would be just more of the same from the same people uh the consumers of of Epstein's material or his friends or something like that. But it's a small possibility, not a big possibility. She says there was a backpack thing on a roof. Well, where's the backpack? Let's see. Okay, >> I'm I'm skeptical. Paint me skeptical. >>

So, let's go to the Iran situation. So, we they've been as as as I as I one of my favorite uh posts from the Babylon Bee was uh uh White House announces Iran deal completely done except for all the important parts. So, so in the end it feels like to me that either the I feel like the Iranians are just going to keep pushing and waiting this out, right? Because Trump's going to need to do one thing or another because he needs he needs to get those tankers out of the Gulf of Hormuz. So, what I think something's got to happen in the next two weeks to for timeliness of this. What do you think, Niels? Is this a uh military operation coming back hard? Can he pull a deal off with these people? What you think?

>> I think we're in a pretty good position here, a better position than is readily apparent. uh they are far more debilitated for this war than we are despite all of their you know the the talk that they offer to the idiot media uh all the paddle nannies in the media wanted to announce this as being you know a failed war uh an hour after it started that sort of thing. I will point out that they had a lot of patience for baby Lord Hussein in 2011 when he spent seven months waging war on Libya after claiming he would never do any such thing. So, um, let's see what happens. Donald Trump and the Persians both know that the 2026 midterms are coming up and the Persians may be trying to wait him out and make him look like a fool or something like that to the benefit of their potential friends in the Democrat party. That sort of thing. Who knows? Uh uh the other day somebody said that yes uh baby Lord Hussein's uh treaty with Iran was a failure but it was negotiated by the experts and that the people Trump has surrounded himself with are not experts. You know I I like I like how this is going. I think that Donald Trump will ultimately uh hammer a win out of this. I have faith in the man. I trust him way ahead of say the military generals of the past who lost war after war after war and then go out and gainsay everything the man did has done as as president. I like the way this is going.

Christopher, >> uh, what is it to if if if sooner or later if if if there really is no deal that's going to come in a timely manner and they really are pushing him and waiting him out to get closer to the midterms militarily, he's going to have to do something to ensure that he can actually get tankers out of the strait of Hormuz. What does that look like, Niels? What is what is that?

>> Looks like a that looks like a marine brigade and probably part of 82nd Airborne Division landing on you know Car Island and taking control of the strait of Hormuz and running it like a ferry station in the Panama Canal. >> Yeah. >> You know what are the what are the Persians going to do about it? Uh they're just about out of heavy weapons. Yeah, they'll have some drones and that sort of thing. It's stuff that our troops can pretty much handle if it has to be done. But starving them out so that the only traffic going through the strait of Hormuz is friendly traffic is good for us, bad for them. Ultimately, they'll have to make some sort of a deal. They cannot have nuclear weapons. They cannot uh uh step on the world's petroleum supply, that sort of thing. Trump has made that uh abundantly clear. And there's far more incentive for them to square this away and make a deal than to than to do the opposite to go in the same status quo direction that they've been in since 1979.

>> So when they say of course you know Trump is not going to let them keep nuclear material, right? But of course they want all of their money they want all their money unfrozen. What would you tell them about when they say it's a non-starter if we can't get our money unfrozen? What would you say?

I would say that if Barney Niels and Christopher go to hell, that they would want big cold glasses of ice water, you know, if they want money, they should earn money. I mean, they're perfectly capable of earning money. The the they're not stupid. Um, and Donald Trump isn't stupid either. Uh, he can he can titillate them with the idea of releasing their quote unquote money. I think that that would be a big PR loss for President Trump if he did what Baby Hussein did and, you know, stack up a C141 with American greenbacks, fly it into Tehran. Uh, you know, send the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders with the money when it uh when it lands at the at the runway. You know, the Persians are going to make a great big show of it and pretend that it's a win. So, that's the last thing in the world Donald Trump is going to do. One of our viewers up in Phoenix just said, "This Niels guy is hilarious." He means it. He means it with love, not as a joke. So,

>> well, there's far more to a man than his looks. You should tell your viewer in Phoenix, you know. >>

Um, US to shut down Iranian airlines' access to landing spots, refueling, and ticket sales. I didn't even know they were flying commercial jets out of Iran. Well, you know, they'll probably have friends to visit in Lebanon or something like that. Who knows, right? Um, just make life interesting and uh and terrifying for for them, you know, around the world. Make it costly and difficult and painful, that sort of thing. You know, hem them into a corner and make it so they finally say uncle and Farsi and uh, you know, make a deal.

>> Uh, last question. um is you brought it up the uh cannot let the Iranians uh this terror regime have nuclear the capability of nuclear weapons, right? So in the end, this is the crux of going into Iran in the first place, right? That's is and so the idea is do do you I always tell people do you believe yes or no that Iran had access to nuclear material to make weapons, right? And you And there's a group of people who of course said this is a manipulated story. Trump's been manipulated by the Israelis. What does Niels say?

>> I say that they did have the intent. They did have the material. They have been a threat. They've launched attacks all over the world. Uh the anti-Semites love to uh pretend as if Donald Trump is being held hostage by Bibi Netanyahu, that sort of thing. Israel is about a 30 35% ally on its best day. Uh I think that Israel has never matured as a political entity for their failure to reconcile their situation with the Palestinians and the fact that they won't cut their purse strings with us. They need to mature as a political entity. All of the internal Israeli political fights are uh how do we secure ourselves? How do we get more jack from the United States or other countries? That sort of thing. And they don't need it. They're they're first world uh they can solve their own security problem, that sort of thing. To a certain extent, we have a shared interest, an allied interest in preventing Iran from being nuclear capable. I I'm perfectly willing to operate on those terms. Uh I don't hate Israel. I don't hate Jews. Uh I want them to better develop their democracy.

>> What is the uh Okay, I lied. This is my last question. How should have the Israelis resolved the Palestinian situation? What what should have they they have done? Niels?

>> I think that they should have completely disarmed the Palestinians completely and incorporated them into Israel. >> Gotcha. >> If it's a if it's a if it's a democracy, it's a democracy. If if the Palestinians achieve a majority or strong plurality, it it would be a shared coalition government. I think that it is the pressure of Palestinian terrorism and external security issues is probably the only thing keeping Israel Israel at this point. If I was leading the Palestinians and my mission was to defeat Israel, my way of defeating Israel, Mr. today Simone would be to disarm and embrace them brothers Isaac and Ishmael and Israel wouldn't fall apart. It would just it would transition into a a you know, a polyethnic Arab Jewish state of Palestine, Israel, Israel Palestine, whatever the heck you want to call it. >> Yep. >> Okay. They have failed to to reconcile themselves with this situation since 1948. And Barney said with capital letters, you're an expert on all things Nils. That's what he just said. So,

>> well, you know, Barney is unavalier, which is how you say mench in French. I love the guy. He's fantastic. >>

All right. Thanks for thanks for coming in on the show today. I appreciate it as always. And Last Law Man's comes out on June 9th. We'll we'll talk before that. Okay. >> Did you order a copy, Mr. Desimone? Yes, sir. >> You're a good man and I'll talk to you very soon. Stay out of trouble. >> Thanks, Nils. Take care, my man. >> Take care. Be good. >> Uh Dr. uh Dr. G. Coming up next, our favorite college president. So, you're on Live the Dream Media. We'll be right back. >> This is Wake Up with Chris D. Simone, only on the Live the Dream Media Network. Now, a word from our sponsors. Looking for the best outdoor patio in Tucson? Look no further than St. Phillips Plaza at the southeast corner of River and Campbell, where you can sip on Tucson's finest collection of whiskey at Union Public House. Brunch 7 days a week at Reforma Modern Mexican, Basque, and Tequila. And experience our newest restaurant, Proof, proudly serving housemade pasta and artisanal pizza. 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But uh we're going to get to our my next favorite guy in the education higher education world who is uh and before we get to him, remember June 17th is our big indoor barbecue. We're going to do the governor uh debate watch party. You can get tickets on our social medias. Email me, text me. I'm sending it out. Let's go do it. All right. Let's see if he's set up. I I I I saw his desk, which looked amazing. Now it's dark. I need uh Dr. Gerson Rano. Almost there. Oh, look at you. You got the hat on or >> I I'm in vacation mode. I'm Where where are are you're still in your office uh back in Iowa right now? >> It uh uh in Michigan, Grand Rapids, Michigan. >> Oh, that's right. Grand Rapids. >> And uh are there any vacations coming up for Dr. Rano anytime soon? >> I'm going to visit my son uh who lives right close to Napa Valley, California. So, my wife and I are going to spend two weeks with him. Uh he's going to be going out to uh Google sending him out to the world headquarters in uh Europe for three month stint. So we're going to go see him before he takes off. >> Oh, beautiful. Beautiful. >> Yeah. Well, we just had graduation season and um we I always say in the high school world I call it in every year that I've done the show, we call it the bittersweet week because we um yay, we've quote finished. We're supposedly moving on to our next life. But as we all know, most of these young men and women are going out into the world woefully undereducated, >> woefully unprepared for whatever their next step is. Whether it is college, whether it is the workforce, whether it is technical training, they're woefully unprepared. So what I do to depress the crap out of everyone, uh, Gerson and Shay, if you can bring that Babylon Bee about the diploma up for the picture so Gerson can see it on the screen with me. But we talked about the horrible um literacy rates of high school graduates, >> right? >> And there's some in Tucson, including the biggest one, where it's about 24% of them, these are the seniors, >> that can read at any with any sort of proficiency. >> Oh. Oh. Anyway, so um this the picture I wanted to bring up, Gerson, and I guess she's We we'll figure it out. But what it said basically was uh parents help uh graduate uh read out the words on u diploma, right? Yeah. Parents help graduates sound out words on diploma is what it says on the Babylon Bee story. So give me uh give me D's take on graduation 2026.

Well, I I tell you, we're we're in in significant trouble in our country with our K12 education, higher education system, and and I do think there's a a a market culling that has begun to happen. It will happen in the months and years ahead because it's unsustainable and for many reasons. I think, you know, 70% of Americans, I think the most recent poll say American higher education is in the wrong direction, right? And this is regardless of whether which side of the aisle you're in. And I think people have woke up to have are woken to realize there's something wrong with our educational system. We're graduating either young men and women from high school who can't read, can't do math, don't understand the basics of American history, of our traditions of real historical facts. Even just Memorial Day this past few days, beachgoers, college beachgoers were asked, "What's Memorial Day about?" and nobody knew the answer. >> So we are >> it's like like we have historical amnesia at best, right? Uh and we don't remember, we don't know and we just don't care and we become so decked about it and our systems educational systems are are at fault. And part of this frankly I will tell you is the leadership in these areas. So, the American Federation of Teachers and the American Association of University Professors just released their their big impact study and how to revive American higher education. Right? >> And higher ed should be free. Number one, it should cost nothing. And two, it's a public good that requires massive amounts of public investment. But the challenge with all of this is that they also both believe in this thing called uh academic freedom which means we can teach anything we want to teach and you can't hold accountable to what we're going to teach but we want public investment as possible right to support what we do. It just doesn't work that way Chris you cannot ask for public investment and yet no accountability. You can't ask for public investment and not hold teachers accountable in classroom or professors accountable in the classroom. You can't do that. It's it's it's wrong. And yet that's what they're asking for. So there are no solutions coming from the leaders of these institutions and establishment. And thus we need a a serious overhaul and a market culling to happen.

In Arizona, we call mark uh academic freedom means uh charter schools, ESAs, and open enrollment. Academic freedom is for the parents and the kids, not for the not the idea that we can just uh jazz free form the curriculum. Decades and decades that academic freedom means you can't touch me. You know what I do is sacrosanct and and and untouchable and you don't understand and but I want public resources for it. That's it's just wrong. It's a crime. And and the real crime now is being perpetrated on generations of young people, right, and families in our American future. Because what happens when you have a society, a very highly competent, developed society like our own, graduating men and women in high school or colleges that don't know anything about why we are where we are today. Let me just put it that way. How did we get to today? What has happened to us? That means we have no moral compass to discern where we're headed, the dangers ahead, the pitfalls ahead, and how to avoid them, right? We have no sense of that. So now we really become slaves to the technocrat, right? Slave to the to the to the small number of intelligencia who are telling us that they know best. That is the most dangerous position to be in as a country. We've done this to ourselves and we've got to take this back. >> Yeah.

But what the the technocrat side of it is they can disseminate information and uh force it upon human beings at a faster more efficient level than humanly ever in the history of humanity. And that should frighten the crap out of a lot of people. >> It should make everyone scared. And the challenge is that these technocrats, whether they're in a lab or not, they tend to wear white coats, right? and have fancy jargon that they have developed themselves, right? Uh and so they come across as very very intelligent and beyond being touched, right? Beyond being understandable and we have to sort of put faith in them and that's just it's been destroying our society for a very long long time. Look, Stanford just in the last few weeks re-overhauled their core curriculum again. This happened four or five decades ago. They just did it again and it's a it's a blatant attack on on Western civilization and the American experience again, right? And so here we are, one of our elite institutions graduating really smart people who don't know their history and who are being socially engineered to think something very different and very dangerous. It's happening all across the country. And I think it's so important for parents to wake up and be get involved and to hold public institutions accountable to hold every institution accountable, right? Because a society that does not know its own history, its own foundations, its own beginnings, its own strengths, its own challenges cannot in any way not just lead others, but lead itself into the future. And so I think we're at a very significant crossroads in in uh for of accountability for K12 institutions, high schools, private schools, charter schools, but also public institutions, universities, and private ones. This is a very serious thing, and it's not just about the money. It's about our our future and our children.

So I graduated high school in '89, college in '93, and maybe I was just too young and dumb to understand it at the time. I don't know. I don't know if any of this was all going on. The the the high school I went to in New York, I don't know if they even do this anymore, was formed as a union-free school district. So there was no way a teacher union could exist. And we were one of the top 10 districts in all of New York State. Okay. But which was now in the in the rearview mirror, that kind of makes sense to me now. But when did this start? When did the change start where we went from here's we're gonna we're gonna teach you to be critical thinkers, right? We're gonna give you the the building blocks of soc, you know, of civilization and we're gonna study and we're gonna talk and we're gonna work it out and then at the and and when did it start becoming more about the indoctrination revisionist history? When when you look back when what was the point where you started seeing it, Kirsten?

Yeah, I I certainly think it starts probably in uh in the early 60s uh and forward. You see it then you see I mean you really do see beginnings of this way way back in the late 1800s, early 1900s and I'll tell you why. Because institutions all really almost when you look at almost every university in America that was started whether it's the Ivy Leagues or the great big public institutions University of Michigan, University of Georgia, right, all these schools, they all had a beginning with a a commitment to truth, capital T truth, right, and a commitment to uh a a strong moral compass rooted in God, rooted in religion. If you look at the University of Georgia's founding documents were expedited there. So it wasn't just Ivy League schools, it was major state flagship institutions. In the late 1800s and early 1900s, this began to shift when American higher education adopted a German model to the university and it became a research university or began to pursue research. The minute you begin to pursue research, on the one hand, it's a good thing. You get to discover new things. But on the other hand, the danger is that you let go of capital T truth. There is no such thing as that. You're always trying to affirm anything. So the minute you let go of that commitment to truth, you are now in a very dangerous sea, right, where you can land in any place and you really don't know what's true, what's right, what's wrong. So the beginning really at the turn of the century. Then you really do have in the 50s and 60s after World War II a very hard push toward a revisionist approach to everything. Right? So we went not just from truth now to just research. Now we go to how do we see the world? Not is there a real world, is there a reality, is there's truth. The focus then becomes on how do we know what we think we know. It's a switch to methodology. You see this in the humanities. You see this in the liberal arts. This is where critical theory and critical studies comes from. It's it's not a critique of knowledge. We really can't know if we know anything. And it's now much more about how do we see the world? How do we study it? Well, if that's the case, we can't ever know anything. There can't be any truth. Everything is just a matter of perspective. So, this has been going on for decades now. And now we're really beginning to see the crop from it. People who are skeptics, who can't affirm anything, who say there's no truth, and therefore it's a big power game, right? It's power plays. And he who has the power is the one who enforces it. That's the the the situation we're in now. It's taken decades to get here. The way to revive this is to call this out and and really bring a coalition of champions for what is true and beautiful and good and and lead in with that perspective and that truth because it speaks Chris to the human heart. Human beings today, young people out of high school, they're looking for moral guidance. They're looking for truth. So, it's interesting you say this. So, we're seeing this we're seeing a revival this Christian revival in 18 to 24 year olds, right? And I don't know if there's I think there's a little bit of the Charlie Kirk factor in there with a lot of these guys and girls. I think they're somehow um because you are they're they're seeking they're seeking tradition. They're seeking a spiritual anchor, right? They're not into this relativism when it comes to their faith and their life, right? And but somehow Christianity has won is starting to win a little bit of the cell phone doomscrolling wars of getting into these pe these kids heads. They go, "Oh, there's something more than just this." And that's why I think we start to see this little revival. What do you What say you, Gerson?

>> No, I think you're right. I I think we're seeing it here in Grand Rapids, Michigan with young people, right, who are who are now beginning to cry and call out that there is something different. There is such a thing as wisdom. We need some of this. Where do we get it? Right? And are much more open to having real serious conversations about these things. Truth, beauty, goodness, existence, eternity, the soul, the meaning and purpose of life. And I think part of it, Chris, is that our society is tremendously prosperous. There's a lot of prosperity in America and some will even say decadence in America. We have a lot here. You know, I I came here 45 years ago, immigrated from South America with my parents. 45 years. Uh we green permanent visa cards and then I became a citizen when I was 19. Right. >> What uh what country what country are you from originally? >> Colombia, South America. >> Okay. would always say if you if you're going to be poor, it's better to be poor in America than poor anywhere else >> because the prosperity here is incredible. >> Yeah. >> Decadent or prosperous societies often times breed right the skepticism we've been going through. But they also at some point in time come to an end of themselves and they start asking fundamental questions about is there more to life? >> Yeah. >> Right. We have all these things. Is there more? I think that's what's happening in our country now. I think people are beginning to ask these fundamental questions about is there more to my life? Is there more to reality? Is there more to existence? I have all the food I want, all the entertainment I want, all the doom scrolling I want. I mean, the world's in my fingertips. What else is there? And that's a great fertile seedbed for serious meaningful conversations about God, the gospel, Christ, reality, truth, beauty, and goodness. So in many ways it's a great opportune time uh to have this and it's an exciting time. It's a great opportunity for us.

>> The um you know when you look at the um you know this this group right they've been kind of like they're looking at their lives right they don't see opportunity. If you're a white male you've been crapped on for the last >> uh 8 to 10 years by politicians media and talking heads. Uh we talk about with our Fred Congressman Schwiker out of Arizona that the data shows somewhere between two and three million uh young men that they can't find in the data in their 20s. They're not working. They're not going to school. We don't they don't know where they're at. Right. There's this lost millions of young guys. >> Say that again. >> A lost generation of young white men. >> Yep. And so I think again back to they found that they there's got to be something more than what's being sold to them. And then of course COVID just shoved them in a corner, right? That was like the to me that was like the final uh as Sting said in synchronicity to the final humiliating kick in the crotch >> is um was COVID.

>> Well, you know, one of the things we've done, I mean, the whole gender war and gender battles and and this has taken place in higher education and and now in corporate culture has has been so destructive to men and women, right? Uh because it has sidelined men as as brutes, animals, lust-driven machines, right? Or stupid. Uh and then it has sidelined women by giving them a false sense of reality and a false sense of themselves. And now you have both males and females coming to terms with this and realizing this is not all that we thought it was going to be. You see this in the media as well in many op-eds I've written I've read where there are women who bought into this kind of feminist mentality and are realizing there's this is false right now how do we change it uh I think it goes back to one sector is education. I think educational institutions have to uh be held accountable to educate our children and our young men and women not just in traditional gender roles but what I call and what what nature the common law of nature speaks about gender and sexuality, right? And why that is so important of a male and a female and family and marriage. This is fundamental to us. I've met a number of young men here in West Michigan, 18, 19, 20 year olds who want to get married, want to have a family. They cannot find a woman who wants to get married or who wants to have a family. >> Oh, I don't want I have a lot of 20 year olds in my life. uh guys and they one day they came over to my house for Christmas, believe it or not. We're sitting on the back patio having a beer. I I did an impromptu round table of how much it sucks to date in your 20s in 2025 at the time, right? Online dating's trash. Uh if you're not finding a woman or or if you're a girl looking for a guy at work, things get tougher in that world. >> It does. And so you I've seen this and it's I tell you it's it's sad but we have done this to ourselves. And so we need to then champion charter schools, private schools, private universities that truly understand the importance of what we in Christianity call the image of God, being made in the image of God and the importance of male and female and how both are beautiful in God's design and the importance of family and marriage. I mean this is a fundamental building block of society of a country of a civilization. This is not white nationalism. This is not fascism. It's simple beautiful design of family life and the importance of mothers and fathers and the importance of rearing children in love and teaching them the beauty of being a woman, the beauty of being a man and what does that mean? And so it begins there with families and it begins with institutions that can support this, not that are going to attack this and undermine this. And I've said this for a long time. If you have universities who are receiving public dollars, but they are antagonistic to America, antagonistic to the fundamental building blocks of our great country, I think they should be defunded. I don't think they should public dollars and tax revenues to do this.

>> So I see it in Arizona. We have three big state universities. is Northern Arizona, ASU, U of A. Okay. And what they do is they want the state that the the taxpayer know, right? They they're and what happens is like post-08 crash, right? They hollered like because the state was didn't have enough money to give them what they wanted, right? And the catcalling was unbelievable, right? So what they did in the end of course was jack up tuitions that don't even keep up the actual blow inflation out the door, right? But they don't want any So when the state says, "Hey, you should do if you'd like to keep getting our money, right?" Because it's not like they ever get zeroed out. They just get a little less money, right? >> And the state goes, "Hey, ASU or U of A, could you do this? We'd like you to do this." LIKE, "OH MY GOD, HOW DARE YOU interfere with our holy mission of whatever we're doing." And so they want the money, but they don't want the oversight. And I see we talk about it, you know, every four days on this damn show. It's really amazing.

>> Well, I mean, yeah, this is the travesty of academic freedom that has been going on since the early 1900s, right? I mean, it's become this sort of guillotine, this thing that we that institutions leverage over taxpayers and over the government. Academic freedom. What we do is beyond being touched, but you better fund it. And and I say, and I wrote a piece that appeared in the National Association for Scholars Journal, Academic Questions back in 2021, if you want to revive higher education, you need to ensure that these tax dollars and these tax subsidies are truly truly being given to institutions that advance the true, the beautiful, and the good in our society. And if we can't show that and they can't show that, then it shouldn't be funded. Right? Otherwise, we're funding institutions that are actually undermining the national, social, human fabric of our country. >> Correct. >> That's what they're >> and academic freedom doesn't mean you shoot yourself in the head, >> right? What what informs culture, right? Right. There's media, right? There's education, and there's churches, right? >> Yeah. >> Right. And how are we how what is that? how look at that balance on how it's out of whack right now, right? A lot of these churches have retreated from being out there on the front lines. Media is off the charts perverting so many things in so many different ways and then the families kind of left in the middle and they're just kind of most of them when they get into survival mode don't care what's going on with their kids as long as they're out of the house for seven hours a day going to school. is, you know, is how do how do we start reversing because those are some big dynamics I'm talking about, Gerson. >> How? >> Yeah. What's what, you know, we like to say how to eat a big really big sandwich is one bite at a time, right? So, what's what's one or two bites that you would say off the top of your head?

>> Well, I I think first of all, the first bite and maybe it's a big bite, but it's already started, so it's helpful. I do think that what the Department of Education under President Trump has been doing is they have changed and undermined the status quo of the higher ed establishment for many years. >> Yeah. >> They all introduced enough disruption and profound questions that have jarred the entire establishment and now you can really have serious conversations about things that we could never talk about. Right? I think it's really important and then needs to continue. Number one. Number two, I think the education DE needs to continue truly holding institutions accountable to outcomes that matter both in terms of character and moral education as well as the kinds of skills that we need for the future. We have to do that. That has not been done for years. We need to start doing that now more than ever. I think it's critical and holding institutions for those moral outcomes. That's really important, Chris. We can't just educate people to be competent. We have to educate people of character. >> That's important. >> Family life and churches to me that's at the core of all of this. You know, it's easy for me to talk about and criticize institutions, universities, my own or others as we, you know, we should and we need to be honest with ourselves and work hard to be better. But it does begin in the family. It really does. And for many years our families, parents and you know have failed to educate and to live uh or develop the kinds of families our country needs, our children need. And I think we need to hard look at that and how do we moms and dads do that? How do we hold ourselves accountable? How do we truly educate our children? Well, I think that can be done in lots of ways. I think churches are critical to this, right? But too often times churches as you mentioned have retreated or have become part of the problem right because they're not truly you know preaching the true gospel or truly educating their parishioners to these fundamental truths that are transformative personally and familiarly transformative. So pastors and leaders in churches play significant significant role. I'll give you an example. Just several weeks ago, my wife and I visited a church in Michigan, here in Michigan. We decided to let's go visit some churches. Let's look, let's see on Sunday mornings what's happening in other churches. So, we went to this one particular church. We sat there, went through the service, and then the the the leaders of the church invited us for lunch afterwards. So, we had lunch with them, and I asked both the main minister and his associate this question. Tell me about the the spiritual health of your congregation. I mean, you're the chief shepherds, right? >> Right. >> What? And here's what I answer. Well, you know, we we're accountable to the main office of our denomination, not to our parishioners. >> Good answer. >> And I walked away thinking, so you don't know the spiritual health of your people. And it doesn't even seem like you care. You care more about what the central office tells you. >> Oh, sure. Sad to say, it becomes a job, right? And they're sleepwalking through their day just like someone working at an accounting business, right? But they're talking about the gospel of Christ, which is unbelievably sad. >> So, that was one example. I can give you another example of another church where the pastor called me. He said, "I need some advice and counsel from you." He he was going through some difficult things. He was telling me about how the church was being governed and the fact that they care more about not the significant cultural questions of the day that are undermining families and homes, but a whole list of other things that are not relevant at all. So, you know, I can we can go on and on, but I think churches are key to this. Pastors have to be educated, held accountable, mentored, and shepherded about these fundamental issues. Parents as well. They have to be involved in this. I several years ago I realized that one of the Pew forums, one of the Pew Research projects they put out said that one of the main reasons why Christianity is declining in America is because Christian parents don't choose not to share their faith with their kids. >> Yeah. >> Because it's their kids to make up their mind. That is frankly I it's stupid. As a parent, you have an obligation to provide a moral compass to your kids. Obviously, when they're adults, they may make their own choices, but you can't leave that to chance where they're little. >> Amen. Or even again, you have to leave them with that foundation that when they go away from the family, that's going to take that's going to withstand any storm that's thrown against it. Right? That's what you want. >> Or it'll be in their heads if they choose to reject it. Always knocking in the door of their heart. >> Right? >> And the other thing too is, right? So, uh, the Lord said, "Give to Caesar unto Caesar and give to the Lord what's the Lord's," right? And a lot of these churches have forgotten it because they've gone into business with the government, >> right? And that's the other problem in the Catholic Church. I'm a I'm a cradle Catholic so I can uh I I trust me I always say you guys want to excommunicate me send me the paperwork but um the um so I remember uh watching a border discussion during the Trump administration and that the the bishop of El Paso was really up he was really you could just tell he loved the open borders feel of everything right he wanted that >> right and so I have a friend of mine uh Mr. Han, he's a u he's a canon lawyer up in uh Phoenix. And I said to him, I go, "What am I missing in this conversation?" And he goes, "Put on your biggest pessimism hat,"

Chris." And that was I go, "Is this about the money?" He goes, "It's about the money."

Right.

Right. Because the the church only gets paid for taking care of migrants if they're on American soil.

So, you gotta get going. You got.

No. No. A very real thing. Um It goes back to this, Chris. The importance of having a a focused moral compass that allows us to discern right from wrong, evil from good, and make the right calls on these questions, right?

Yeah.

And and and just the churches are lacking it, institutions are lacking, the family is lacking it. And part of the challenge has been this, and I've said this for quite some time. On the one hand, the beauty of democracy is the freedom and liberty we have. On the other hand, the challenge of democracy is that there is no moral compass to a democracy.

Right?

That's the challenge. And I and I've for a long time seen that that lack of a moral compass that democracy is a part of democracies everywhere has infiltrated our homes, our churches, our educational institutions. This is why the founding, America's founding is so important and the beauty and the American experience because the founders knew that we've given you a republic if you can keep it. And by that it means you have to have you I mean you see this in George Washington's farewell address you see in the federalist papers you even see in the anti-federalist papers the importance of a moral compass rooted truths of human dignity human liberty right virtue what's vice these are important to protect a society from its own excesses right founders were afraid of that. They were terrified not just about the monarchy, they were terrified about the tyranny within the heart of human life of human beings themselves. And thus they realized that that that moral compass has to come from God. It has to come from the transcendence of God and who he is because we ourselves are not going to do this. It has to come from.

These political systems only work well if there's a moral compass that everyone's guiding their decisions and what they say by and if it doesn't welcome to 2026.

That's right. So this is why I think you know we can talk about the the small bite that we need and we do. I think there are things that can be done with the home with parents and how we prepare people for marriage and parenting. How we prepare our pastors and seminarians for churches. How do we hold our churches accountable in denomination? How we work in our institutions and higher ed? But at the very core, we need a a spiritual revival in our country rooted in the gospel of Jesus that brings us to account that that truth comes from him and a a a revival of the human heart comes from him as we turn away from our dark ways. That's what we have and that's how to me it starts and it has to be part of the solution along with all the other things we've discussed about the family, about churches, about the educational establishment.

All right. Well, great job as always. What's on the hat? Uh what's on that hat you're wearing today?

It's the beautiful rainbow trout.

Oh, beautiful. I love it. I love it. Well, have a have a safe trip to California when you see your kid out fishing and it's it's great to be with you and your listeners and thank you for all the good work that you're doing, Chris.

You too, Gerson. Uh, you take care, my friend. We'll talk soon.

Yes. Take care. Thank you so much. Bye-bye.

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Hi. Now you're on Live the Dream Media, Christopher D. And we got a few minutes left together and um bang bang interviews with David Niels and of course we just had Gerson on our doctor our president of Cornerstone University and again the faith family schools discussion deep there right in the end that's the only way the comeback's going to happen my friends I need a strengthening of our faith institutions our schools and of course theies family unit because if that doesn't happen in an appreciable way, it doesn't really matter what happens in the world of politics. Whatever party you're in and whatever you think is the the something that that that you go, oh, this tips our way, right? Ah, it's still a speed bump on the road to on the road to uh bad bad bad stuff. So, well, I almost could read that from Taylor until I got the uh the payw wall. It only worked the first time. Well, good going. Taylor Davidson actually wrote a very nice oped in the and the Star about um a citizen a city for the citizens which did a nice job. He's an intelligent young man encapsulating all the problems with the city of Tucson. But I love his I love his optimism, but it's going to be a long long time for any of those people to change, lose their jobs. Don't know. Uh so Dr. So Dr. Jill Biden, Joe's lovely spouse, um was talking to CBS News this morning's Rita Braver, and she says, "I was frightened cuz she thought that um she insisted she never saw Joe stroke out like this." Uh or the the June 2024 debate, she says, "I don't know what happened. And as I watched it, I thought, "Oh my god, he's having a stroke and it scared me to death." So that's an interesting line. I hadn't seen him stroke out like that. Does that mean he stroked out before after all these people are saying he's the sharpest guy ever? Um, uh, Biden aids told Jake Tapper and me that they had seen him act that way before and afters from Alex Thompson. Those moments became more difficult to predict and conceal. Jill joined Biden for several campaign events after the debate, including the rally the next day. So the um so basically what's happening is the hitback on Jill is when she said she had never seen him stroke out since then is the idea that they're saying, "Oh no, he stroked out a at least a few times before that." So again, when Dr. Jill says stuff like that, just lying to your face is all these people who lied to your face is pretty wild. Uh, that's I'm trying to I'm trying to clear the tabs for Ed Alexander here. I had a video, but we're not we don't need to play it right now. Um, this is um two Hispanic gentlemen walk out of an ice um out of an ice facility in New Jersey and all the protesters were cheering them because they thought they were finally being released. They were they were some sort of immigrant that was being released from the nasty hands of the ICE officials only to find out that both those gentlemen are ICE officials. They're ICE agents themselves. So, I mean, they were just leaving work for the day. So anyway, I like someone said uh on a comment they should have played along walk out looking defeated looking milk all the cheers and then one of them pulls out their employee badge and says see you tomorrow guys while the protesters faces melt missed opportunity of the year. I mean, the histrionics here are just amazing. Um, eight years for organized shoplifting. This is from uh the attorney state attorney general's office. This guy hit 22 Walmarts in seven Arizona counties. Al Alexander Moreno Dancler. Uh, let's see. Usually small high value items like video game consoles and video games. Eight years he has to repay Walmart 140,000. Shoplifting can fuel its own shadow economy. Josh Jacobson from the Tucson Crime Free Coalition says in some cases, we've talked about this before with Josh and other folks and police officers, homeless people will be given lifts of items to steal and trade on the streets for money, drugs, or both. So what they do is they they'll have to go in at the same time, 10 of them, 20 of them, and they have a half hour to get everything in their cart or their basket or whatever, and then they all leave at the same time. Uh, Josh, whenever you go into a big box store, you see a security guard, that person, that's an $80,000 a year expenditure for one person that works 40 hours a week. Merchandise being locked up, you have to get an associate, extra theft prevention, all those items, they cost a lot of money for retailers. And then, of course, they just increase your prices. That's the other part of of your inflation on the price of goods, right? Is the idea that all of you're paying for all the loss, too. Uh, Freedom Park Pool closed down because of broken glass on the water. This is exactly what happened to UD Doll. So, I'm going to say Fenty folk until they tell me different. So, city of Tucson can't get control of the Fenty folk, so we'll just close down pools. Now, the old Palm Shadows apartment on the northwest corner of Speedway and Campbell, they finally blew it up and cleared it for new apartments, right? And again, there's a shrinking amount of freshmen coming through the next so many years. The U of A is going to build this big uh high-rise for dorms. And if you have a rental property in and around the University of Arizona and the UOVA is talking about you're going to require uh I don't say freshman and sophomores to live in their in their dorms because they need the money and you have a rental house around the U of A, you're going to have issues, my friends. be ready. But my favorite line of this story, who did this story? Craig Smith was a landmark near the University of Arizona is now gone. Why is that a land? You mostly you never noticed it because it was an old crappy twotory I think motel to begin with. Um, I like some of the comments. Um, uh, Dana Cooper had a good line. It was a landmark because it was crappy. Um, let's see. Oh my enrollment's down. Uh, makes great financial sense with backtoback declining enrollment. Exactly. Yes, Mia. I understand it was the Pam Shadows Apartments. that's in the actual report. Was there something I guess my question to Mia was, is there something about the Palm Shadow Apartments that was significant? Did John Dillinger go to the bathroom there? I don't know. So, on that point, we're gone. We're done. We're We're going to call it a day. Max the intern and Mark Van Beerren tomorrow. June 17th is our big party debate watch party. Please join us. 5:15 start David Schwhiker and Andy Biggs debate starts at six o'clock. You it's a ticketed event and if you need to if you want the ticket you can't you're not a social media I will send it to you at uh just email me at chrisltdia.net net. We are pushing hard to finish strong in this D Simone for oral valley campaign. We need your volunteers, your front yards for signs and your and I humbly ask for your donation at christopho.com. Roninas southwest flavor, picture rocks heating and cooling coming up next, followed by Ron Arenas, Willil Pñena. Let's talk sports. Or we're talking sports. I'm going to get it one of these days, Ron. I promise. Chay, great job as always. Thanks to David Niels and Gerson for wonderful discussion.