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So, Mercury came into Aries today, huh? Thought this would be an appropriate time to have this particular talk, the series, because we have Aries all month long, and it's a new beginning hopefully of um sanity. So, there's a few things I wanted to cover today.
Um, I had a pretty overwhelming response to that last video I did regarding the manosphere. Pretty surprised that it was as needed or as appreciated as it was. Of course, I'm always going to get, you know, the negative stuff, but um it's a subject that a lot of people are very uh hungry for more information and balance. Hey, Alexis. And education around the subject. So, while we've got so much areas going on, let's get it done.
So, a few things I wanted to talk about today. Uh we focused last time on um love bombing, couple other things, but I want to help specifically younger women to understand what real love looks like, what uh karmic relationships are, what compassionate non-attachment is, and help young women in particular to learn to recog recognize good and bad treatment, good and bad relationships. There's been a lot of redefining what relationships are and what we should all be engaging in, what we should be looking for. since about 2012, but really 2017 is when things really started to get twisted and turned on their head in terms of our understanding of healthy versus unhealthy. Sorry, my printer is kind of possessed. I haven't turned it on in a while, and it looks like it's decided to receive its messages 20 minutes after I gave it to him. Mercury.
So, let's talk a bit about transactional relationships since this is a topic that has always been around but has become very popular in the sphere of the manosphere. Transational relationships are typically something that we, you know, associate with hard unsolved aspects between moon, Venus, and Saturn. Now, sometimes we can get into that with Pluto, but usually it's going to be Saturn stuff that puts us in that mood for something contractual. And that's what transactional relationships are. We are not relating to each other on the level of feeling or of you know really engaging with each other as people. It is a it's a way to guarantee an outcome. transactional relationships. It's a way to have predictability of results and it's a shortcut to security. Transactional relationships don't leave any room for feelings, moods, growth, sickness, difficulty, aging, the frailties of people. It's just about let's make a deal and I'm guaranteed an outcome because we've made the right kind of deal. And it's very interesting that in the manosphere it there's a lot of hypocrisy in red pill ideology and in the manosphere business. This is one of those points of hypocrisy where people that tend to you know gravitate to those kinds of ideas they don't like the idea of guaranteed outcome or of equal outcome because they have an idea of deserving and merit. We should only know get what it is that we merit and what we deserve. But it's not a part of transactional relationships because there's an agreement right at the beginning that I'll give you this and you will return that. And it's an exchange of resources. It's an exchange of ideas. Certainly not intimacy. Intimate intimacy isn't a part of transactional contractual relationships because that is about empathy and about relating to somebody as a person, not as a role, a rolemate. So in transactional relationships, we are not soulmates, we are rolemates. And that's one of the pillars of the patriarchy is that we fulfill very narrow roles that are well- definfined and everybody knows their place and nobody gets out of place because otherwise we're going to have all this chaos if we have all this know equality and mixing and uh being inventive about our own identity. So it's a way to ensure a outcome that we haven't earned.
So, this is these are interesting relationships because on the surface they look like we've got a pretty adult, you know, status fil going on, but when you look under the surface, transactional relationships are just playing house. It's they're not actually real. It's very much a facade because it's similar to when your institutions crumble and break down like where we are now and everything becomes caricature. Very similar to like when you go to North Korea and you look in the storefront windows. Those aren't actually stores. It's it's a painting or it's a set, but there's not actually abundance in there. It's just the look of it. And so we have a lot of our requirements for status fulfilled in these kind of relationships, but they're hollow. They are arrangements that don't actually depict connection or intimacy. It is a storefront for what how we would like to be seen and the kind of image that we would like to project. And if you've got hard unsolved aspects in your chart with Saturn, sometimes Pluto can figure into this too. This can be something that we gravitate towards because there is a belief that it will be fulfilling. It's going to check off the boxes and it will check off a lot of boxes, material boxes, status boxes. It doesn't check off the heart box. And what women run a real danger of when getting into a transactional relationship is actually falling in love with someone someday. I see this a lot. I have seen this many many many times over the years that brings a terrible crisis into someone's life because we're in a relationship that for the most part if it's transactional like your traditional transactional relationship. I'll talk a little bit about the plutonic transactional relationship in a bit. This is more the Saturn type where it is actually you know steady. It's um you know the trains are all running on time, the bills are getting paid, it's very predictable, but if one or both of you actually falls in love, actually develops a connection with someone, actually has somebody even just trigger infatuation in you, that brings up a very hard problem of do I stay where it's safe and secure well known or do I go towards love real connection something that fulfills my intimacy needs. So these are not actually secure arrangements because we are always in danger of having somebody trigger real love within us. And some people will choose to stay with what's safe and not take that risk of pursuing something that um brings novelty, love, romance into your life. And some people will jettison what it is that they've committed to because and because they want uh something that is more experimental, more fulfilling.
So So these are um relationships that serve material needs and it does serve the system at large. Because transactional relationships very much feed into the idea of marriage as a contract that you should not be able to get out of. And that's some of the new red pill manospheric ideas is that divorce should be illegal. that it um yeah it it shouldn't be allowed. It shouldn't be an option. And see manosphere ideas, red pill are very extreme. And the ideas about traditional relationships have been very much twisted. That was not even a traditional idea. What young people are being sold as traditional relationships are narcissistic slaverybased relationships that are meant to get all of us back in line. Because the patriarchy uses men as a type of useful idiot when they haven't woken up from the patriarchy, from these expectations that are completely unrealistic and actually end up shaming men, making men um try to live up to a standard that is ridiculous that nobody should be living up to. And when men really see what taking real accountability and responsibility for their lives leads them to, the kind of freedom that that leads them to, they are not controllable. At that point they are liberated. They can't be used by the system because they are not trying to please big daddy anymore. They're putting their own inner feelers out. They're they're directed. They're interdirected. They're no longer externally directed. Is guilt and shame have to be operating. Guilt, shame paradigms have to be operating in order to have the system continue to run on the false premises premises that it's been running on. So yeah, the powers that be are very very much in danger of men waking up and realizing how terribly they have been mishandled and used and are taught to systematically use and abuse and that keeps them on the hamster wheel of guilt and shing.
So, I made a few visuals to help us understand. This is the patriarchy brain worm. I did make one with RFK face. Yeah, cuz he's one of the hubs. Alpha males within the system, they don't know that they are the main breeders of the patriarchy brain worm. But they're passing it on with their modeling, their example, their ideology, and nobody should have to work that hard. The patriarchy brainworm convinces us that we have to stay on the hamster wheel of approval and that we have to have certain types of material outcomes in order to have security, freedom, uh relationship. Nope, that is not true. And the kind of status symbols that transactional relationships are built on are not attractive to people looking for real connection. We'll look at that as dry and unfulfilling. So, do you just want to play house or do you actually want to share a house? If you just want to play house, transactional relationships may fit the bill until you outgrow it. And most women will. A lot of men who get into those, unless they really fall in love with someone else, they won't outgrow it. It will continue to check off the boxes. But most women cannot sustain those types of relationships because they're very vapid and you just start to live a life of quiet desperation. So if you're looking for real connection, six feet, six figures, 6 in. Are you serious? That is a ridiculously superficial way to categorize anybody, anybody's worth. And that is one of the pillars of the manosphere that you have to have a certain profile, a certain income, a certain look. Can't be bald, can't be short, can't be these things that um make life and relationships more satisfying and easier. You'll be shamed for those things. And you certainly can't have emotional maturity because women will laugh at you if you show emotions. This is the opposite of what modern women are looking for. Modern women are looking for emotionally intelligent partners. That is the number one thing that modern relationships in the age of Aquarius demand. emotional intelligence and patriarchy. The manosphere in particular is doing men a terrible disservice by telling them the opposite. That they will be rejected for that. They will be laughed at. They will be weak when that is the requirement to be able to engage in a mutually satisfying, fulfilling and stable relationship in the age of Aquarius.
So, another teaching that I've been hearing quite a lot of in the past few years in the manosphere is to be with the one who wants you, not necessarily the one you want because then you don't get to keep the power. If you're with the one that wants you, then they're always going to have their eyes on you. They're always going to be coming towards you. They will be valuing you because the manosphere and transactional relationships in particular are built on a value game, an idea about worth and value. And whoever has the higher value is the one that has the most worth. And so you have to position yourself in certain ways, treat other people in certain ways so you can maintain that high value. But it's a way of feeling like you are better or showing up as better. We can't have intimacy if we have this going on. The pillars of the patriarchy need hierarchical relationships to exist. And it prevents actual empathy when you have those type of differences and can't really be together. because one of us is looking up and one of us is looking down. And in actually healthy relationships, um we both pursue each other and we both have power over each other. It's it goes both ways. Neither one of us is completely risk-free or completely secure. And that's part of what makes it dynamic. That's part of what makes it actually exciting is that not one of you always has all the cards. And so that is a really nasty place to be if someone chooses you cuz you're the one that um you know wants them but they don't necessarily want you. You want to be with somebody really who's thinking about somebody else but chose you because they knew that you would always be thinking about them. Again, it prevents actual intimacy and cooperation. This kind of deal. So yeah, that's meant to keep one person adored, secure. And uh we are reduced to romates in those situations, not soulmates.
So if we're in relationships where mutual appreciation is central, then we have to be in touch with our feelings with that inner compass, that inner direction. And that does bring a lot of risk into relationships. We're never going to come to a place where it is 100% safe. And if it were, it wouldn't be real. we would get that artificial let's make a deal and then do our best to stick to it even if we don't really want to be here. The authenticity will leak out if it was ever there and those kinds of let's make a deal arrangements. So, if we're going to be ourselves, we do need to be honest. And unless we really want to be there for the right reasons, there's going to be whole parts of oursel that are sealed off or that are never known or they're never shared because honesty will destroy and put at risk a transactional arrangement.
So, another subject I wanted to talk about is the subject of sexual entitlement because I'm hearing a lot of men need sex talk. That is a justification for all kinds of lack of accountability, taking responsibility for one's own uh needs. Um, it's a way to have guaranteed outcome and It's a really interesting double standard that you get into when you adopt that idea. You get into things that will lead you to, you know, one-sided monogamy. um you know cheating or demanding sexual attention or sexual outcomes and that's justified because you do have that belief that men need sex. It's a requirement and that's also a part of this idea of transactional relationships is that that need for sexual fulfillment will always be met. That's part of the deal. And it doesn't allow for both people to show up honestly. We don't actually have to work to pursue each other in a long-term relationship. We just get to, you know, make the deal and then sit back and collect. And if we aren't collecting, then the other person is going to pay a price. So you see a lot of the these kinds of ideas in Sun Pluto men, Mars, Pluto men, Venus, Mars, Neptune men in particular. You know, when Neptune's involved, you get more of the pouting, the whining, behaviors that are decidedly feminine and that do not make the other partner horny in the least. So, authenticity can't exist there. If there is a punishment or an expectation related to frequency um the equality because not only are you supposed to give it up when someone wants it every time, but you're also supposed to be totally into it. And that is not realistic in a long-term relationship, particularly if there's any amount of cajoling or force uh or pressure involved because that's going to circumvent the process of pursuit which both of us should be in. Both of us are pursuing each other in a good healthy cooperative relationship because both of us hold some of the risk and both of us have some amount of power over each other. So sexual entitlement is a way to demand a guaranteed outcome. Instead of doing the work involved, putting in the energy involved, the attention, the time, the skill involved to have a dynamic desire dance of desire to exist, where you're really wanted. That's where things are exciting. when there's real desire, not something that is a result of force or demand. Now, that can be very exciting um especially to people that have a lot of Pluto in them getting something because uh of a humiliation ritual or due to force or cutting corners. It's a way that we're proving how powerful we are. That kind of thing is not present in a healthy cooperative relationship because the other person isn't there to prove us to ourself. They're there to be loved. We're there to be loved in ourselves. So when we're dealing with a partner that doesn't allow us to experience desire, come toward them at our own pace. when they're not respecting our own timing or our own needs. And if you're not good with your boundaries, that's when we have to start self-abandoning in order to meet the other person's expectation. And if we get into self-abandonment, that can become a habit in these kinds of relationships. We'll forget ourselves. And there is something to be said for meeting each other's needs. Sometimes we will agree to be with the other person even if we are not, you know, super hot to try because we understand that uh, you know, the other person may be in a mood that maybe we're not in. And it's okay sometimes sometimes to give even if we aren't completely in that same frame or in that same mood. But when we're dealing with somebody that's pressuring us or that feels like a certain sexual outcome is guaranteed or should be there. That's where we get into a pattern of self-abandoning and showing up in a way that's not authentic. So neither of us win in that kind of situation because the person that is in that position of feeling entitled wants to feel desired. And it that's not going to be possible if you can't allow the other person to develop and um you know be in their own their own desires and and and approach things at their own pace. So, we're not actually receiving the kind of validation or um we're not being seen the way that we are looking for when we're coming at somebody from a place of pressure. So, if we're experiencing whining or sulking, if we're getting the cold shoulder, the silent treatment, um, somebody's demanding or guilting or punishing us, none of that is going to create the conditions for desire. It has a repellent effect that will build and get worse over the course of time. And in those situations, you know, a sexually entitled partner, they are relating to an idealized version of masculinity or femininity. They're not um seeing us in our own right. We are in the position of fulfilling fantasies that so much of the time edge out the real person. and it diminishes the quality of the interactions that we do have.
So, another thing I wanted to talk about are what it is what is a long-term sexual relationship really like because the expectations that we have especially in the manosphere are not accurate. First of all, all relationships begin with a honeymoon period. All relationships where we have infatuation, you know, the initial attraction to each other, there is that phase of super hotness, a lot of frequency, that's part of how we initially build the bond. But in any relationship, even if you are more hot for each other than you've ever been in the history of people, there will always be a drop off in frequency. And a lot of young people don't understand that that is normal. They think that something's wrong. either with them or with the relationship because we're not doing it like rabbits anymore. Nobody does in even a functioning long-term relationship. Relationships go through different phases and facets. And it would be wonderful. Personally, I would dig it if we did remain in that place of serious attraction where we just can't get enough of each other. That is a fabulous, fabulous phase to be in. But it leads to more and deeper and uh more consequential types of interaction in the next phase. You know, but frequency and not being able to keep your hands off of each other is is a a beautiful thing that we get to enjoy in the first part of a relationship. And that can last anywhere from six months to two years if you're lucky. For most people, it's about a year. And we start to get more into a more steady pattern rather than a can't get enough of you want and all the time kind of business. So there's nothing wrong with the relationship if you get into that. If you're with a sexually entitled partner, they will often convince you that or try to convince you that something's wrong because they aren't getting the frequency that they want. And if somebody can um well, particularly if it's a male partner, sometimes we can get women with a you know, pretty hefty sex drive. If they can get it all the time, they will. And we don't owe somebody as much frequency as they would like and that often will cut down on the quality of the interaction that we're getting into if we are giving it up just for the sake of frequency it um it's more like you know the concept of um quality or quantity. And as we experience more of each other and go through the years, quality of relationship is what we do focus more on that becomes more important. So, I've seen a lot of young women in the last 10 years that are convinced that there's something wrong with them because they don't want to be with their partner, you know, several times a day or even every day and they're convinced that there is something wrong with them. It's absolutely normal. Now, if you're in a karmic bond where there's a lot of intensity, makeup, breakup, high emotion, there can be more makeup sex in a long-term relationship. There will be more in a long-term relationship. And oftent times, if you look beneath the surface, that's what we're trying to create with those intense cycles is this um you know overwhelming attraction. It's very reminiscent of the early days in the relationship. Those are trauma bonds that we are reenacting and they are intense and they are intoxicating and they are addictive. But it is not a healthy cooperative, safe cycle. And it doesn't last forever because typically we will burn out over the course of time if we are engaging in those really intense nervous system pummeling kinds of relationships.
So in compassionate non-attachment, this is a little bit different than because they aren't like normal relationships. In that type of situation, you both come to the relationship healed in your own right. And there can be very high quality, satisfying, mutually beneficial um sexual encounters that are more frequent throughout the long term because we never get into the bitterness phase in those situations. We never get into a place where we're avoiding each other or where we're acting, you know, out of resentment or disrespect or bitterness. That that does never leaks in. We never come to a cliff. We never come to a Neptunian pool with no water. Um we we don't have the resentment that leaks in with those relationships. We still will not be in that phase of crazed attraction. But there typically is higher quality, more frequent sex that will happen because of the way that we regard each other, the way that we feel about each other, the openness, the intimacy, the sharing. There aren't any barriers to being seen. And so there's more willingness to engage on both sides. You cannot get there in a transactional situation because you're coming into it um emotionally limping or hampered in some way. There are many many barriers that we'll have to go through before we can get to that place of uh you know mutually flowing desire and sexuality in relationships that are based in compassion non-attachment. It's more like a ritual. That's why you see a lot of tantra in those types of relationships because it is about bonding. It's not about relieving oursel. It's not about having somebody be a receptacle for our feelings or our fluids. That is a part of transactional relationships because we are role mates. We are not soulmates. And if you ask for that soulmate connection, that will destabilize the arrangement, you will actually be seen as a problem at that point. So we have to ask ourselves, what do we want? Do we want something that breathes, something that's dynamic, something that allows us to get to be our self? And we're going to have to show up healed. And we're going to have to show up willing to take on some amount of risk because there isn't a guaranteed outcome. We do have a guarantee of peace and wholeness. We're not going to rip each other to shreds if we come into the relationship mutually healed and it's based in compassionate non-attachment. But even still, in those types of relationships, we don't own each other and we don't want to because that's what takes the life right out of it. It will become contractual when we see each other as a property or as owing us something.
So, we're going into a different phase of experiencing each other in the age of Aquarius on a large scale. We're growing out of contractual arrangements and going into relationships of choice where we choose each other. Before it was about survival. It was about resources. And now it is about choices being with the one you want. And both of us can have that experience. Both of us can want each other. Because the old ways just don't satisfy. If you are putting yourself first, if you are not accepting half lovers, the old ways, they just don't do it anymore. That is dry.
So, I'll take a couple of questions here and then I'm going to get going. I've got some weed eating that I've got to get to this afternoon. We've had so many days of rain that I haven't um been able to get to everything I need to do outside. Oh, Quy, I'm so sorry that you're caught in that. I hope you can see your way out of it. Hey, Sandra. Oh, that's funny, Gina. Uh, meta. Yes, very true. Desperation can lead people to being very desirous. Of course. Yeah. Because that energy will build up and if it doesn't have any place to go then we will end up in a very frustrated place and we will typically develop a wandering eye if not a wandering imagination. Again, transactional relationships seem safe on the surface but they're not. H la I'm so effie I can't see. I am so glad you're out of that situation. that is not uh somebody you're not you're describing somebody that's not thinking of you that is uh thinking only of themsel and not seeing you Um, ad I find a lot of men are challenged when it comes to relinquishing control and pride and fear of vulnerability. Yeah, that they're growing out of it. Um, we all are growing out of these immature ways of dealing with each other and seeing each other. And men as a whole are coming to a place where they're going to have to decide. Do they want to wield the hammer harder or do they want to take a more intelligent and softer approach? Because if we just use more pressure, that's like, you know, trying to get something to fit and it won't fit. And so you use more force, you'll eventually break it. If we're going to grow out of transactional arrangements, situationships, relationships that have some kind of power imbalance, the more controlling our possessive partner is going to have to reflect. Both of us will actually if both of us are attracted to that. But men at large right now, they're at a place where they have to achieve some higher measure of self-awareness and really look at what do they have responsibility for? What can they take accountability for? Because they are not victims. We that's what the patriarchy is selling men because to be in fear is easier than to take action. It conserves energy. To take action that means we're develop the man is developing leadership qualities and he has to be led by his internal compass. That is going to take reflection. That's going to take the ability to actually feel and to appreciate empathy and cooperation instead of dominance and see peace, cooperation, resonance as the greater value.
So, let's see. We've got a question from er. Do I believe the patriarchy stems back to the age of Aries? Well, whatever age we were in about what 4400 years ago, 4,600 years ago. Mhm. Yeah, because we haven't seen this um Saturn and Neptune going through Aries since then. It's been that long. And it is the end of an era. It's the end of the facades. It's the end of the old masks, the beginning of new passionate ways of relating to each other. Real ways and coming out of survival mode. Aries is the lizard brain and we are too self-aware as a species to be able to relate to each other in just survival mode anymore. We are growing out of it. And if you stay there, you're going to be left behind. There will still be a certain amount of people that embrace the old systems because you don't have to change. You don't have to update. And when we do that, when we circle the wagons so that we can keep old systems, old ways of relating to to each other going, it becomes more and more condensed. Like when uh inland sea evaporates, becomes more and more salty. So those um ideas about uh rolemates, they become even more standardized, restrictive in those types of situations where uh we're circling the wagons and resisting progress And it gets weirder and weirder and more and more and more culty in those kinds of when we live those kinds of lives. And eventually we have to separate oursel more and more and more to be able to ensure that nothing from the outside gets in because that's a threat to those traditional agreements that we've made. It's not reality. It's the village. Do you see the village? That's what we end up with. We invent a culture that supports what we want, but it necessitates lying to ourselves and perpetuating lies about the options that are on the outside. And it becomes more and more restrictive and more and more demanding that we give up our particular self-expression so that we can embrace that role that we have chosen that we've chosen over our right to get to be our self. So yes, er I think my my answer is yes.
Your question um Ren, can I speak on Venus and Libra in the fourth square, Mars in Capricorn in the sixth? So this is a easier square and I'm I'm thinking that this is a natal question in the natal chart. You're asking me this. This is an easier square because we have those planets in signs that they actually do well in. When we have a hard aspect and the planets are in signs and or houses that they have a hard time in, that really exacerbates the difficulties that we're going to have to negotiate. So you have a well functioning Venus. You do cooperation well and pretty darn smart Mars in Capricorn. That is a side of you that knows how to steadily pursue and get what you want. Um more steady application of energy and of passion. So any square and I'll look down here to make sure that I'm getting this right that it's in the natal any square is going to ask that we look at where we've come from because that's the conjunction the beginning of the square and then we look at where we're going. So what was the origin and what is the goal? Because with squares we're dealing with a problem of past vers. We have a certain set of abilities and conditioning. And then we have this other part of us that wants more. It wants success. And in this case, what do we want with a Mars square Venus? Passion, sensuality, flirtation, but we have to learn to dance. Well, it's going to be easier because you got those planets in such good signs. We don't dance well with that square at first. We step on our partner's toes because we're so ready to get to the goal and we're a little bit rough. So, we're learning to read other people's cues and to cooperate and to study and learn about who it is that we want because that's the part we neglect in the beginning. And that's why other people find us a little bit forceful, if not a lot forceful. So we don't get what we want initially with that square until we learn how to move, dance, flow with the other person, but we have to pay attention particularly to nuance. Then we become one of the most successful hunters you've ever seen. But that is a frustrating square initially to deal with because we do have ardent desires. But the way that we club people over the head gets in the way of us having the success that eventually we do get to when we realize that, you know, we got a good thing going on. We got to stop stepping on people's toes and, you know, clubbing them over the head and dragging them back to the cave. Um, okay.
So, one last question. How do I differentiate the midpoint composite from the Davidson? They're both telling you the same thing. They are just giving you two different versions of the same story. And sometimes it's the same story of the same story. Sometimes they turn up relatively showing the same thing. A lot of times they can be very very different. And that's where practice comes in where you'll you'll understand how one chart that looks very different than another is actually describing the same kind of things. Um so when I do sinistry interpretation I always look at both charts and then I pick the one which is showing more of the difficulties because that's what people need education on. it doesn't help them as much if I just focus on everything that's going to go right. They need to know what to do when things go wrong. They need the tools. They need the education pertaining to that. So, I tend to pick the one that's going to give people the most bang for their buck and describe that one. Uh, so Taurus wait sorry transiting Saturn conjunct natal Aries Venus in the 11th house planting seeds conjunction of creative project Venus stuff. Yes, it is definitely a seeding transit because it's a conjunction something is beginning. This is actually a new cycle of learning to hold out for more delayed gratification and choosing quality. Choosing love because you're combining feeling and structure. And we can have it all in relationships if we are finding something where we have both chemistry and compatibility. That's what it's showing you. It's also showing a new financial cycle where you are going to be paying attention to waste, how you can maximize what you've got, invest in things that are more about the long term. So we um redraw a lot of boundaries at that time as well regarding what we want, worth, value, what you're willing to pay for, saving. Um, a lot of people are starting to feather the nest when they have that transit because they're getting more serious about the kinds of relationships um that they want to have in their life and uh looking more at um you know who's going to be a good partner. Not just a good lover, but a good partner. Oh, did you put another one up above? I didn't see it. Let me take a look here. I think that was the last one. Let me see. Yeah. H qu one more. Um if you have two planets that have a sign based aspect like a square but the degrees of the two planets aren't square opposing square opposing trine and the aspect of degrees would they still have a similar effect? H I don't know if I understand your question. Let me read it again. Two planets that have a signbased aspect like a square with degrees. Oh, you mean so are they like trying by sign, opposite by sign, square by sign, but the orb isn't exact. Yes, they it it does have a similar effect, but it doesn't have the um impact the uh the specifics of the problem. It it's not a extreme condition, but you will get more of a a a watered down effect. I mean even just say if we have the sun and the moon in square signs we're going to have some square sun moon square aspects to our personality opposite in conjunct but it won't bring a extreme or specific problem up like something within 10 degrees where we do have a tomic aspect. Mhm.
All right, guys. That's what I've got time for today. I will pick up pick out some other um incendiary topics about this and uh be back with you um when I can make it back in. Um, I know that this is a very triggering topic for a lot of people and um, I know that there are several people even in my group that would prefer that I didn't go there, but it's something that needs to be talked about. And that's part of being myself is um, you know, speaking out if it has value to me. even if uh it puts me at risk for not being liked. So, I will see you guys super soon. It was good to be with you.