The transcription captures a heated philosophical debate, likely between two individuals, concerning the ethics of bringing children into the world, particularly in the context of suffering. One participant argues that since all humans will suffer, it is morally preferable not to have children. This is framed as a logical conclusion to avoid inflicting suffering. The other participant challenges this by questioning the premise and its application, drawing a parallel to the idea of killing someone to prevent their suffering. The debate touches upon the concept of "scriptural" beliefs, though the specifics are not elaborated upon. The core of the argument revolves around whether the principle of preventing suffering through termination can be applied to a born child, highlighting a fundamental disagreement on the value of life and the definition of suffering. The discussion also briefly touches on the idea of influencing people to prevent them from "doing evil."

Abolitionists Rising

Okay. All humans will suffer. So is the humble and perfect thing not to not bring children into suffering. Why would you go?

Okay. But logically, hold on a second here. Hold on a second. If you think that to help someone from suffering, you can kill them. Why do you mean their pants that they leave around?

Listen. Listen. These guys. No. No. We're scriptural. We're scriptural. We're scriptural. We don't deny it.

I don't like to bring it up right now because No, no, no. I bring it up all the time. Don't tell me what I don't your own age.

No. Hey, now here's the deal. You walked away. No. You think that protecting people from suffering by killing them, if you believe that, you could apply it to a born child? A born child that's suffering, can you kill them?

You do this with your life. You come out here 20-year-old. I try to talk to people to change their mind so they don't do evil.

What if they suffer?!

>> So is the humble and perfect thing not

>> hold on a second here. Hold on a second.

>> If you think that to help someone from

>> No. We're scriptural. We're scriptural.

>> No, no, no. I bring it up all the time.

>> No. Hey, now here's the deal. You walked

>> A born child that's suffering, can you

>> You do this with your life. You come out

Okay.
>> All humans will suffer.
>> So is the humble and perfect thing not
to not bring children into suffering.
>> Why would you go?
>> Okay. But logically,
>> hold on a second here. Hold on a second.
>> If you think that to help someone from
suffering, you can kill them.
>> Why do you mean their pants that they
leave around?
>> Listen. Listen.
>> These guys. No.
>> No. We're scriptural. We're scriptural.
>> We're scriptural. We don't deny it.
>> I don't like to bring it up right now
because
>> No, no, no. I bring it up all the time.
Don't tell me what I don't your own age.
>> No. Hey, now here's the deal. You walked
away.
>> No.
>> You think that protecting people from
suffering by killing them, if you
believe that, you could apply it to a
born child?
>> A born child that's suffering, can you
kill them?
>> You do this with your life. You come out
here 20-year-old. I try to talk to
people to change their mind so they
don't do evil

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What if they suffer?!

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