Alberta Quigley Ministry - Episode 11

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Hi, this is Chad MC Brom, and this here is Alberta Quigley. You're watching the Marketplace Network with Alberta Quigley's program. Hello, good to have you here. What are we gonna talk about, Alberta?

Well, I have this book, and it's called "Arise and Shine" by Gloria Gillespie. I was just in Texas, and, uh, she had a church in Texas. She still does, and I think Troy Brewer now, um, has that church. But anyway, she's building some things for, uh, kids and everything, and she's busy doing something else. But what a great pastor. Anyway, this is their book, "Arise and Shine."

And Chad, have you ever been where you actually wondered, "Have I done anything for Jesus?" One day, I got in a pity party. You ever get one of those? Oh, yeah, that's pretty easy to get in. And I said, "Lord, have I done, you know, I've been attacked, you know, by the people." And, and I said, "Lord, have I done anything that can count for anything?" Well, I had this web page, but I never looked at it. Somebody else.

Chad's thinking, "Yeah, I know that one, Alberta." But anyway, and I have a web page now, which I don't see much of it. But anyway, um, I was feeling sorry for myself because I've been picked on. And I said, "Lord, is there anything at all I have done in this ministry that accounts for anything?"

Well, I had a friend that worked at Microsoft, Justin, and he was looking on my web page and he said, "Alberta, do you know there's a book on your web page? A whole chapter is the book is, uh, about you being in Gloria Gillespie's church." Gloria had written this book that she put a chapter about me, and I didn't even know. I said, "No." He said, "It's on your web page. You should have known." Anyway, he got the book, which was this one, and he said, "Read 'Dancing With Jesus'." And I thought, "Well, what is that?"

Well, Gloria had written a book, and I didn't know that there was a chapter in there about when I ministered there. And I read this chapter of "Dancing With Jesus," and I cried. I said, "Lord, where have I been that I would forget?" A lot of times we minister and we forget the good things and only concentrate sometimes on the negative. But anyway, so I wrote, I read this chapter about "Dancing With Jesus."

Now, what it's about, Chad, it's about a little four-year-old girl, um, Pastor Gillespie's granddaughter, four years old. And, and, um, she came to one of my meetings. I held a three-day meeting there, and a powerful, powerful meeting. And this little poo comes over, and she jumps on her grandma's lap, sitting by me, Gloria's lap. And then she says to me and to Gloria, she says, "Grandma, can't you see all the angels here? Can't you see every time they sing songs about the Lord, those angels are clapping? And, and can't you see them, Grandma? How beautiful they are?" And Gloria and I couldn't see him. MH.

And, um, but she could. And then she does really something that was so surprising and shocking. She says, "Grandma, Alberta, can't you see Jesus is here? He's down there. He's praying for that woman down there. He's here." And Gloria and I said, "Well, that's, that's nice, sweetheart, that Jesus is here." And she actually saw Jesus.

Well, I asked Gloria. Gloria told me that she always danced with Jesus. Gloria would find her in the kitchen, she'd be dancing. "Who are you dancing with?" "I'm dancing with Jesus. Can't you see him, Grandma?" You know, she'd be dancing. And Gloria said they would go in a store somewhere, and right away her little granddaughter, four years old, would be inviting people to church in that store. You know, "Hey, she comes up to, hey mister, will you come to my church?" I couldn't resist. So they come to church.

But anyway, this was a little girl that kept telling Grandma, "I see Jesus. He's here. I'm dancing with him, Grandma." And so a beautiful, wonderful meeting. Chad left there, and two days later, you know what happened? I got a phone call, and Gloria said, "Alberta, Leslie's dead." The little four-year-old granddaughter. And I said, "Gloria, what?" She said, "Yeah, she, she, uh, drowned in the pool. She had some heart condition they didn't know she had, and she drowned in the pool." And I just, it was so hard, you know, too.

And then Gloria told me, Chad, uh, she said, "We ran to the hospital, got there, and she was alive for just a little bit." And Gloria said, "Alberta, I saw Jesus literally come to her bed and pick her up and walk out with her. Jesus came." Now, folks, I don't know about you, but I know He's that real. Real Jesus can be anywhere He wants to be. And He, Gloria said, carried that little girl off to heaven. What a sight to behold.

Now, Gloria Gillespie is the type of pastor, you give her a million bucks, she wouldn't like it. She just wouldn't do it. And so, um, she saw her little, um, granddaughter carried away. Jesus Himself came and got her. And you say, "Well, Jesus doesn't do that." He can do anything He wants. If I read the Book of John correctly, He created heaven and earth, everything that was, everything is going to be. Jesus Christ created. So He can be anywhere, go anywhere He wants. And He was there to carry that little baby away.

And some of them out there, they're wondering, "Well, is Jesus out real? And, and what happened to my little baby that died? Did He carry her away?" Every little child that has died is in heaven. And every little aborted baby is in heaven. That's, believe me. Little children are being raised in heaven. Jesus never throws anything away.

And Chad, have you ever had any encounter to see Jesus or to know anything about anything like that? Yes, but my encounter with the Lord was, uh, very different. What was it? It was an encounter like John the Revelator, uh, of the glorified Lord. So I was in a dream. I was walking along a pathway. I looked around and I noticed there's no shadows where I'm walking. It's all lit up. And I was following a silhouette of a woman and a child. And off to the side, there was a voice calling me. It wasn't Chad, but I knew it was my name. Just to make sure, I stopped. I looked around me to see if anybody else was there. Nobody else was there. And when I looked towards the voice, it was the Lord, glorified, seated on His throne. And He asked one question. And the question basically was, "Chad, are you so hurt you can't hear me calling you?" Those words came through me. That's the only way I can put it. I couldn't say a thing. I hit my face, and the only words that could come out of my mouth was, "Lord, I love you." And that's the only time I've ever rose out of bed like, won't like that. And the, uh, experience was so intense. When I told my spiritual father years ago, decades ago, the first time I told the story, I shook like a leaf. It was quite an experience. M.

I knew another little four-year-old girl that was taken into heaven, and she saw things up there that no four-year-old would know and came back to tell about it. And I talked to her myself. So I know it's a true story. And then I know another young man that, uh, the Lord took him to heaven in a, and they played in a giant waterfall, and the Lord told him things. He was around five, that no five-year-old would know. Jesus is real, and He can, He can be wherever He wants to be. He's real. And you've got to know that.

That if you had a baby that was, maybe you got an abortion, which we don't condemn anybody for, that's between you and God. But if you've aborted a baby and you accept Jesus in your heart and in your life, you will see that baby again. He, the Lord doesn't waste anything. The minute that baby dies from abortion or any other way, it's immediately taken into heaven and cared for.

Chad, have you ever had any other kind of experience about Jesus showing up somewhere where you were, maybe one of your most down times, or that you could really feel His presence? Oh, there's been many times I felt His presence, but there hasn't been any other situations where I've seen Him physically. M. Yeah, just that one experience.

Well, I was doing a meeting in Houston, and, and a powerful meeting. And I just saw, like I looked toward the front door, and we were packed out. It was a big church. And, and, uh, I thought I saw Jesus and some angels coming through the front door in spirit. And, and so, but I didn't tell anybody. I just, and it was one of the greatest meetings. And after the service, a man brought his little two kids up, the one was nine and 10. M. And brought them up to the, the, uh, front of the church and said, "Alberta, my kids want to tell you something." I said, "What?" They, they saw Jesus come in, and He had angels with Him when He came in, uh, to the service. And so Jesus, if He wants to come and visit a church or a service, or if He, He can be wherever He wants to be. He owns everything. This world belongs to Him. The world, the planets, everything belongs to Him. And I've known Him before to come into different meetings and show up in person. He's done that before. And you said, said, "Oh, Alberta, how can that be?" Isn't He the Lord? He can do anything He wants. And by the way, Psalm 91:11 says that the Lord will give His angels charge over you to keep you in all of your ways. Jesus is real. He showed up at that meeting and was there with that little girl, and then at the moment of her death, He carried her away, and He let Gloria know that He carried her away. So we've got to know that Jesus is real, Chad.

And Chad, if someone says, "Well, I really don't know if Jesus is real or not, how do I get to nine?" What would you say? Uh, it's pretty easy. If you really are honest about it, you can call out to Him, and He'll make Himself real to you. So, um, yeah, that's what'll happen.

How did you really get saved, Chad? I got saved out of, out of the world. I had no church experience in my 20s, um, through some abandonment. Oh, we spoke about that earlier. A girlfriend. Tell the story. Uh, I was in a very low place, and, uh, had a friend that I was living with. Was a Jack Mormon, meaning we had a Bible in the house. He considered himself a Mormon, but he wasn't really. And, uh, I was getting high, smoking marijuana, and I grabbed the Bible and I opened it up and started reading it. And it started, I had this peace about reading it, and I didn't understand what I was reading. It's a closed book. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned, as Paul tells us. But, uh, I had a peace about it. And so then I went to work and was asking a friend about Christianity. And he says, "Well, we have one of those crazy Born Again Christians here if you want to talk to her." So I spoke to her and had some questions for her. And then she invited me to a, a retreat, which I ended up going to a retreat where my friend didn't show up that was supposed to show up. So I was all by myself, didn't know anybody. And that's where I met God for the first time. I experienced the reality of God. Yep.

So what did they have to do to accept Him in their heart and life? Well, if you went to Romans chapter 10, it would say that we need to, uh, believe in our heart and confess with our mouth that Jesus is Lord, we would be saved. However, interesting thing is about God, He'll kind of meet you where you're at. So He did with me. I knew that God was real. I had no gospel message preached to me about Jesus dying on our behalf. Just knew that God was real. I wanted Him. And He said, "Well, you got to have Jesus." And, "Well, if I got to have Jesus, then give me Jesus." And God honored that and took it from there. So, and I grew in my faith after that. Scriptures began to open up. Peace of God was on me, and they laid hands on me, and stuff came off of me, and I had addictions that I was instantly set free from alcoholism and a number of things, and came home a different person. M.

So if they come to know Jesus, um, they will, when they die, then they're going into heaven, right? According to John 3:16. Yeah, absolutely. Well, what happens is, uh, unfortunately, people don't understand this, but it says in, uh, Paul's writings that it's appointed once for man to die, and then comes the judgment. And if we read both in the Old and the New Testament, everybody dies. But here's the issue, and probably the problem, everybody resurrects. It's just which direction are you going? So there's a resurrection of all souls, redeemed and unredeemed souls, and we will all stand before Him. Some of us will head off into everlasting life. Time is a created thing. We'll head into eternity outside of time with Him into a glorified body. It won't be anything like this. It'll be much nicer than what we're living in now, and it will be, we'll come back to a redeemed Earth in this body, and it'll be a good time. The other side is not a good time. You get tossed into a thing called the Lake of Fire, and that's where all the devil and the third of the angels that were deceived by him will be going to be utterly destroyed. M.

And so it's apparently the soul of a man is eternal. We actually can read that in the Book of Ecclesiastes, I think it's, "Eternity is in the heart of man." I think it's Ecclesiastes 3, chapter 3, verse 10 or 11. And so this soul thing that's inside of us, our innermost being, it's, it's, it's eternal. That's why as you grow older, you still feel like you're 26, except for the aches and the pain and these sort of things. It's because that soul inside of us is eternal. And it's important for us to consider the destiny that we're on. Are we destined? We're all destined for death in this mortal body, but thereafter, what are we destined for? Are we destined for glory and eternity, or are we destined for the Lake of Fire and destruction, a second death, as the Bible calls it?

And you know, I had to, my dad suffered from dementia. I had to care for my dad with my mom, yeah, his last 12 months. And he went to church a lot, but I never saw him really make a confession for the Lord. So I was a little concerned about that. At the end of his life, here at the house, he actually manifested a few times. And what I mean by manifesting is demonic powers came up through him and were speaking to me through him. And so I was very concerned about the condition of, of his soul, where he was going to end up. So God gave me an opportunity to speak to him right before he died, a couple of moments of lucidness where he was actually there and wasn't caught up in his, his heavy dementia. We had the same conversation I'm having with our audience today. I said, "Chad, am I going to die?" We were in emergency because he had fell and busted up a bunch of stuff. And, yeah, he was going to die. And I said, "Yep, you're going to die." But that's not the question. The question that it's appointed once for man to die, and then the judgment. The question is, where are you going to go after the resurrection? That's right.

And, and some parents out there, Chad, they're wondering, "Where did my little baby go? The one that died? You know, what, what happened to my little aborted baby? Did they just, have nothing after that?" No. The minute those little aborted babies die, they go right back to Jesus. Remember, the word of God says, "He formed him in His womb, in your womb, in the womb of the mother." Jesus said, "He formed them there." He knows those babies, every one of them. And when, when they're aborted and they die, they go right back with Jesus. And I have known of, uh, of women who have actually had an out-of-body experience and went into heaven for a few minutes. One in particular had a little boy come running toward her when she got to heaven, and she knew that was the little baby she had aborted. And there was a lot of men, you know, they have no say over abortion. They, it's their little baby, but they have no say on if it's killed or not. And, um, they wondered where their babies went. Also, men wonder that too, not just women, men wonder those things too. And I had them crying in a, a meeting I did. They said, "Alberta, we did not know until you told the story in 'Arise and Shine' about little Macy being taken by Jesus at her death. We didn't know where our little babies went, our aborted babies." Well, they're in heaven waiting. And, and the Lord is no respecter of persons. When your little child or your little baby dies, the Lord is right there. He takes him right back to glory. And just like He showed out.

And by the way, you can get this book on Amazon. Gloria Gillespie. You need to read it. She's got so many wonderful stories in here, Chad, about ministry in her time when she was, um, being a pastor. So she's in, uh, Texas, and this book is a book you really want to read.

So I wonder if there's anybody out there, and you're wondering, "Well, in one of those meetings, there was a man there, and he lost a two-year-old son in death, and he was weeping." And he said, "Alberta, I didn't know where, where my little two-year-old son went. He died. I didn't know he, Jesus would take him to heaven." I said, "Yes, sir, you can know that your little boy is with Jesus Christ. He's got a place there in heaven."

Well, Alberta, is it big enough? Why don't you look at the web telescope and what they've found lately? That God created. He, He's got more than enough room for your little child.

Well, Alberta, what about, uh, this one or that one that died? The main thing is knowing Jesus Christ, having Him in your heart and in your life. There is life after death. Jesus is real. I've known Him to show up in person many places. So I know that He's alive, and He's the Savior of this world. He'll come into your heart, into your life. He'll create a new you. He really will. He'll give you life, give it more abundantly. And you know, when we get to heaven, Chad, we're going to know our loved ones when we get there too.

Well, Alberta, how do I get there? You know, I was taking care of my little four-year-old grandson one day, and he says, "Grandma," he said, "I want to go see Jesus." He said, "I'm tired of this place, this Earth." "How do I go see Jesus?" I said, "Well, Kobe, you got to wait till your turn." He said, "What do you mean, your turn?" "What do you mean, Grandma?" I said, "You got to wait until your turn." He said, "What?" I said, "Kobe, when it comes your time to die, you'll be with Jesus." And now he gives Jesus a hug every day. But, but here is the thing, you've got to know that the Lord loves, oh, babies. He loves children. And I think I ought to make it pretty clear, Chad, that if you've had an abortion, you go to Jesus, you repent, ask Him to come into your heart, into your life, and guess what? He will, and you will see that baby again. And if you've lost a child, know that Jesus Christ took that child home. And if you're in Jesus Christ, when it comes your turn to, you'll be with those children again. Is that right, Chad?

Yeah, actually, if you want to refer to scripture, I'm just taking a look at here. It's 2 Samuel 12, with King David, when he had illicit sexual relations with Bathsheba, she got pregnant. Uh, the prophet Nathan came in and spoke that the child would die. And so what David did, and you know, we've seen this a lot when, when bad news comes, if you'll, uh, if you'll start praying and fasting, if you'll start pressing into the Lord, sometimes the Lord will change His mind. So that's what David did. It's, again, 2 Samuel chapter 12, and it starts here like in verse 20. "Then David got up from the floor." Well, wait a minute. Let's start before that. The baby had died, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, it says here, uh, um, David saw his servants whispering. He knew that the baby was dead. And he asked them, "Is the baby dead?" And they answered, "Yes, he's dead." Then David got up from the floor, washed himself, put on lotion, and changed his clothes, and went to the Lord's house to worship. So before that, he was in sackcloth and ashes, and he was fasting and praying. And after that, he went home and asked for something to eat. Sounds like nothing happened, right? He's back to normal. David. And, uh, the people are going to make his servants are going to ask about this. His servants gave him some food, and he ate. And David's servants said to him, "Why are you doing this? When the baby was still alive, you fasted, you cried. Now that the baby is dead, you get up and eat food?" And David said, "While the baby was still alive, I fasted and I cried. I thought, who knows, maybe the Lord will feel sorry for me and let the baby live." This happens a lot in scripture when you see, uh, bad news coming from the Lord, and people making a move towards, uh, the Lord to try to repent, and, uh, a lot of times God does change His mind. But this time, He didn't. Uh, and David, let's see, he said, "Who, who knows?" This is verse 22. "Who knows, maybe the Lord will feel sorry for me and the baby shall live. But now that the baby is dead, why should I fast?" David says, "I can't bring him back to life. Someday I will go to him, but he cannot come back to me." See what David said? He's going to go to his child. That is so excellent. If you read the scriptures, you'll clearly see that David is putting his faith in the coming one, that is Jesus the Messiah. Did they know His name? Did they know all the details of the coming one? No, but David was given the promise of Messiah. He knew his scriptures. He put his faith in the coming one, and he knew where he was going. He was a redeemed one. David was, David spoke of the Messiah. And so, uh, he was going to be with his child, but the child was not coming to him. And that's what David, can you read that again? What David said? Yeah, he says, "David said, while the baby was still alive, I fasted and I cried. I thought, who knows, maybe the Lord will feel sorry for me and the baby will live. But now that the baby is dead, why should I fast? I can't bring him back to life." Know, he's, he's going back to his relationship with the Lord, accepting what has happened and moving forward. Now, I'm not saying this is easy, and I'm not saying I've gone through this, so I've not walked in these shoes. But this is what David is doing. And he says, "Can I bring him back to life?" He says, "Someday I will go to him, but he cannot come back to me." See, so David knew he was going to be with his child again. And some of you out there, wondering, "Where's my child now? Will I ever see that child again?" David made it clear. He said, "You know, he would see that baby again, didn't he, Chad?" He said, "I'll see that baby again."

You know, we don't know how people are going to grow up and turn out. I just want to throw this thought out. You know, I've been fortunate to have quite the son in my life. But some people out there have children that have turned out really wrong, and you really need to stay, you know, stand in the gap for them and pray. Yeah. But sometimes, and I'm just throwing this out as an idea, I'm not saying this is the case, sometimes maybe the Lord sees people making the wrong decisions. Yeah, they're not going to end up in eternity with Him. And out of His compassion and in love for them, He takes them home before they're held responsible for their decisions. That's quite possible. I'm just throwing it out there as an idea.

Well, you give those, uh, little children that have died, even the aborted ones, right now, you know, just have faith that if you believe Jesus Christ died on the cross, rose again on the third day, and He comes into your heart and into your life, you're sealed until the day of redemption. Yeah. And when it comes your turn, like I told Kobe, then, um, you will see that child again. And what I'm speaking about is children that may have got terminally ill and have died prematurely, maybe. And I know this has happened to a couple of people of faith. They've accidentally ran over children or grandchildren, like at a family event or something. These things happen. They're tragic. They're awful. But God knows. And we have no idea how that child would have turned out growing up. But if the child is young and not held accountable for his, you know, his reasoning and his decisions, he's with the Lord. He's with the Lord. I mean, remember, this life is but a vapor. And that's from James, the Apostle James. He says, "This life is but a vapor." You know what that word is in Greek? If you've ever, we're coming into the fall now. You go outside on a cold morning and do that breath, and you see that looks like steam coming out of your mouth, and it's gone. That's what James is talking about. This life that we're living right now is but a vapor. I'm 63 years old, young, and let me tell you, it's gone by pretty quickly. And so, um, yeah, this life is but a vapor. Eternity is where it's really at. So for those children, it's eternity where it's at.

And for people that haven't made a decision for the Lord, and we've talked about, I think we've talked about it here on this tape, that everybody dies and everybody resurrects. Yeah. Why not just take a chance on the gospel? You know what gospel means? Good news. That's right. You know, my dad used to tell me, "If something's too good to be true, it probably is." And 99% of the time, that's absolutely correct. But when we read in the Bible, the good news, and it's too good to be true, well, it actually is really good. That's why it's called the good news, because Jesus did everything on our behalf. We were born dead in our sins. You don't even have to have, we have a bad DNA when we're born. We're born with the, with that Adam DNA where he fell, and we got screwed up in our DNA. We were born with the curse from our father, a, Adam way back when. Guess what? There was a last Adam that came, and He did something on our behalf that we had no input on, just like the first Adam. And all we have to do is accept what He's done on our behalf. And you know what God does? He moves us from the first Adam and translates us right into the kingdom of the last Adam. And all of a sudden, we receive the Spirit of God within us, within our spirit, we get a new DNA, and we're off to the races. That's right.

And, and, and Chad, I'm gonna also, there's somebody out there, um, you're wondering where your kid went. They committed suicide. And you know, I'm a firm believer that, that the Lord has mercy. The Lord knows what happened with that child, why they took their life. You know, we had a good friend, her son, 20, he was 22, I think, killed himself. But he had made it, he had already received Christ into his heart, right, and into his life. So I firmly believe that if you've had a son or daughter or somebody commits suicide, they knew the Lord. Hey, God knew that's one of His children too. But let's remember one thing here, John 10:10, "The devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy." People don't commit suicide of and of themselves. There's some spirit attached to it. It's called the spirit of suicide. Yeah. And those spirits torment people. And you know, they can be in a lot of pain and torment, right? They can be. And the devil comes in, or his boys, and they come in and start playing mind games on these people and convince them to take their life. Yeah.

This say to for me personally, we don't have anything in the Bible that talks about suicide in the sense of inner out. And for me, too, I believe that God spares those that commit suicide if they made a commitment to the Lord before they did so. Yeah. So, you know, if you're out there and you haven't made a commitment to the Lord, you know how easy it is. It's time. It's so easy. Yeah. All you have to do is, you're going to accept what Jesus has done on your behalf. You're just going to go before God and say, "You know what? My good behavior is not good enough for the kingdom. It's not good enough for You." And even if it was Adam, which you had no involvement in, threw the curse on you. So we have a second Adam, the last Adam, His name is Jesus. He's done something that we didn't deserve either, and that's eternal life. And all we have to do is grab hold of that finished work, pull it in, pull it into your life by faith, and Kaboom, you're off to the races with the Lord. You're on a new journey. And never let anybody tell you, "Well, they're in hell because they took their life." And all that. Don't believe all that hell stuff all the time. There is a real hell, but I firmly believe that if that, that person has asked Jesus in their heart and life, I don't believe the Lord throws them in hell. I believe He, the Lord knows everything about everyone. He's kind and merciful. But if you're thinking of suicide, I would not take a chance on ending up in that place. So, so don't. When, if you take your life, you're going to hurt a lot of people, not just yourself, but you're going to hurt your mom, your dad, your family. And, and so don't take your life. Ask Jesus to set you free from that spirit of suicide.

Well, we know it's painful. If you're at that point, take your life. I know that it's painful, and you just want to end it because every day you wake up and you dread life when you're awake, and you dread life when you sleep. You need help. Let Jesus help. Let Jesus use somebody. Jesus loves. Partner with people. Let a minister minister to you. Reach out to Alberta. Her number's down below. Reach out to a local pastor. Reach out to somebody for some help and get that help you need. Yeah.

We met a young man, very godly man, that got convinced, uh, with lying voices, "Well, what is my life all about? You know, what good, what significance do I have?" And he started thinking about suicide. This was around Christmas time this year. We had no idea, and we were able to walk in through and get rid of that lying voice out of his life. So if you're thinking of suicide, don't do it. Jesus is there. The Lord is a God of love. You know, He's also, you know, He, He will forgive your sins. First John 1:9, "If you committed a sin, the Lord said, if you will repent, He will forgive you and cleanse you of all unrighteousness." Any sin. And so know that He's loving, kind, and good. But also, you need to ask Him into your heart and life. Like John 3:16.

Chad, what does that say? Uh, "For God so loved the world," not Jesus, God the Father, "so loved the world that He sent Jesus, that that if you believe in Him, that you may have life and not death." And if you continue to read, "He didn't come to condemn the world. He came to save the world." World's already been condemned. Thank you, Adam, way back when. The world was condemned and cursed through him, through his disobedience. He actually rebelled. It's pretty bad. You go read it back in Genesis chapter 3, 2 or 3, back there. It's pretty bad. But you know what? Right after that happened, and he died spiritually, bam, Genesis 3:16, they received the promise of the coming one who would ultimately be Jesus. But just putting your faith in the coming one, not knowing His name back then, and you may not have Jesus completely figured out either. Just put your faith in the one that came, and Kaboom, you're in. You're in.

You know what I really feel like the Lord wants to speak to Gen Zers out there? Gen Z, you guys out there, those teenagers and young teens out there and young 20s. The devil wants to rip you guys off. There's the spirit of suicide is running rampant on that generation. There must be a reason why. I think it may be that you guys could be pretty powerful in the Lord. So I challenge you, rather than taking your life, give it to Jesus. Let's see what Jesus can do with your life. I think you're going to be surprised. Fact, you're going to be really surprised, and you're going to have one crazy and wild life that's really, really fun and exciting. Jesus will bring that purpose to your life. Jesus will bring excitement to your life where you can really receive the peace, the direction that you've been looking for, and feel like accomplished in something.

Wonder why gaming is so popular? I game a little bit myself. Gaming is popular because, think about it for a minute. Don't you feel a little accomplishment when you win? And you're gaming? There's something there. I know we have, you know, people, we develop relationships online through TeamSpeak and Discord, but at the same time, there's a sense of accomplishment. And some people are running to that, and that's the only place they can find it. Were you Gen Zers out there? I challenge you, let Jesus show you what real life is all about. And all you have to do is just cry out to Him. John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life."

Well, Alberta, I, yeah, you don't know what I've done. I have done this and this and this. You know what? If you are a trans, if you are living a, uh, different alternative lifestyle, if you're a witch, if you're any of those things, if you're a New Ager, we want you. The kingdom wants you. You know, Jesus tells a parable about this prostitute woman that came in, and while He was eating with some religious elite, and she was crying and wiping her tears with her hair on His feet. They're like, "Man, if they knew it was touching her, they wouldn't let her do that." So Jesus went and told those religious leadership a parable, and the bottom line was this: "Those who have sinned much, when they're forgiven, they love much." You're the radical ones that will be the light and the salt for the kingdom, and that's why the enemy is after you. Yeah. So repent of your sins, ask Jesus into your heart, into your life. He'll come in, and it's not complicated. It's very easy. Just pray this prayer. Say, "Lord Jesus, I believe You died on the cross and rose again on the third day. Forgive me of my sins. Come into my heart and into my life, and be Lord of my life." And then be honest with Him. Just say, "Jesus, I really don't know who You are, but I want to know who You are. I want to know the Creator of Heaven and Earth. I want to know who created all of this." Jesus created everything in the world and in the whole universe. Ask Him today, "Come into my heart and into my life," and He'll come in, and He's real. I've talked to many that have seen Him in person. When I was in California recently, I talked to a man that had, uh, really been away from God, and he was a Muslim. And he said to me, I became friends with his son. He said, "Jesus showed up in person to him and told him who He was." And do you know that Muslim accepted Jesus? Jesus showed up in person. I've heard many, many stories about Jesus showing up, and people have seen Him, people have heard Him. He's real. Don't be left behind. Simply ask Him into your heart and life, and He'll be there.

Well, Chad, I know our time is up, but before we go, one last thing for the ones that have, uh, decided to, uh, take the challenge, the Jesus Challenge, and just say, "If You're real, I want You." You walk through the prayer there with Alberta. After you do that, get on your phone, put that Bible app in there. See the Bible app, because the word of God is going to begin to open up to you. You're gonna like, "Well, I don't feel any different." Well, let me tell you something. When you're born from above, you're like a baby that's just come out of the birth canal. You're not going to feel a lot of difference. But one thing you can do, when you begin to get into the word of God, like you get a Bible app like that on your phone, you start reading it, all of a sudden it begins to open up, because spiritual things are spiritually discerned. This is what the Apostle Paul tells us. And as the word begins to open up to you, you're going to go, "Wow, something is different." And then what we want you to do is get involved with a local church, somebody that you can feel comfortable with. Now, if you're coming out of deep darkness, there's lots of options out there. It doesn't have to be some denominational church out there. Find something you're comfortable with, but get around some believers. Yes.

And, uh, remember Gloria Gillespie's book, "Arise and Shine." It's on Amazon, and she was a pastor for so many years, and she's got a lot of stories in here. Chad, about ministry in her time, that new ministers ought to read her book. But she has a lot of miracles that have happened in her life that will make Jesus really real to you. And then to go to "Dancing With Jesus," and it tells about little Macy, who actually danced with Jesus, who saw Jesus at one of my meetings and saw all the angels. It's a wonderful story. So pick up this book, and you're going to enjoy every bit of it. Did Gloria tell me to put this book on? No, I put it on here, but buy it because you're going to need it, especially in the ministry.

And by the way, Chad and I do these programs. We do them for you. And we would ask you that if you feel led and you want to give, we do pay for our programs. And so if you like the show and you want to contribute, you get a tax deduction, by the way. And you know, there's a lot of ways you can give, and it's, it'll be on the screen. Yeah, it should be. We want to bless, uh, Dr. Ken and Bishop for their platform they give us all over the world. I've gotten calls from another country, even, and a lot of states overseas, different states. So if you feel like giving, we would appreciate your help, and every bit of it will go to doing these programs, and we're going to get more programs too. So, um, thank you, Dr. Ken and Bishop, for having this wonderful network and this wonderful platform.

I think Alberta's phone number will be down below as well. So if you're one of those young people, those young Gen Zers, will you just text her or reach out to her and let us know that you've accepted the Jesus challenge, because Jesus is on the move, and He wants to move among your generation in a mighty way. And that's why the enemy is so upset. And if you're thinking of suicide, don't do it. Jesus will rescue you. Yep. He loves you. And please don't do it. We're here for you if you need prayer for that. You don't feel comfortable with anybody, reach out to Alberta. My phone's always open. And if you want me to come to your church, me or Chad, and speak, we would do it in a heartbeat. So just, Chad is now pastor too, but he does a lot of other ministry, powerful minister. So, um, I've been doing a lot of traveling lately, California, Texas, getting ready to go to Colorado again. So we're always open to speaking engagements too. That's right. And we love this platform. Dr. Ken and, oh boy, and Bishop, they work so hard to bring these programs to you. So thanks, Dr. Ken and Bishop, for having us on your wonderful platform. Yeah.

Till we meet again, Chad, which you'll be soon. Yeah. Uh, get a hold of us and let us know what you think. Give us your opinion. And, uh, we love you very much. Yeah. So next time we'll see you here again on the Market. [Music]