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ŰšŰ§Ù„Ù„Űșه Ű§Ù„ŰčŰ±ŰšÙŠÙ‡ SCDawah Arabic‱38:07

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Listen, word. You didn't even let me finish the question because you have to understand that you have to understand the question before you answer it. Something off means there's separation. Still listen. Yes, before I finish my question, you cannot answer. You have to let me finish the question. Yes, I'm trying to explain to you what my question is. If you bear with me for a minute, let me finish the question. The question is this: when I say that the spirit of the—yes, yes—does that mean that Spirit—hear me out, man, come on, what's your problem—when I say the spirit of the is doing something, is is hovering around in this place, which means that it has separated from me. Okay?

Yes. Are you a different person to the spirit, or you're the same person?

I'm the same.

You're the same.

So you're one person can be sp—can be splitted. I want you to—I want you to follow the question, the line of questioning. So you're a person; is your spirit a different person?

It's the same person.

It's the same person.

Okay, so when the spirit was hovering over the water—by the way, you know when you read Genesis 1:1, it says the Earth was without form—yes, yes—where did the water come from?

What do you mean, if there's no form, where did the water come from? Saying the spirit is hovering over the water, that's what he says. So where did the water come from if this—if the Earth had no form?

No, no. What is form? What do you understand of form? Doesn't mean there's nothing there, or it's arranged. What does it mean? Read it again. Again, the form is of arrange. It's like everything is—read it again. The—because you missed out—read Genesis 1 again. It says, "In the beginning God created heaven and earth." Yes. "The Earth was without form"—read the next statement—"and void." Yeah. What does—what do you understand by that void? When you say that, what do you understand by that void?

That means empty.

Simp. So something is without form and void. Where is the water?

What do you mean, where is—because the next statement says the spirit was hovering over the water. Read the next statement. "And the spirit of God is hovering on the face of the waters." There's the face of the water. If there's no form and the Earth is completely—what do you understand about form? Don't ask him; ask me. What is the understanding of form? Form means something has a shape; something has—has form, like head, my eyes, an object, for example, the ball, a football has a form, which is circular, which is round. Do you agree? If the Earth did not have a form and it did not—no, it doesn't mean a form as there's no physical form. No. What does it mean? It's not arranged; it's like all over the place. It's not form like formulation; there's no formless. It's formless, but he said it's void. It doesn't—what?

Void? Void means the space; it's just empty space. Okay, so it's empty space. So where is the water then?

The water is on the—on the surface of the Earth.

But you said it's completely—it's the space. You said—no, the space is void; is different from the—the ground. Do you—is void—this sky is—if something has no shape and it's completely just space—no, I haven't yet. I'm going to pr—the—the sky is void, sir. Yeah, we're talking about something else, not the—the Oney is void, isn't it? The sky. Okay, when you go in space—wait, hear me out; hear me out. You know when you go in space between the Earth and the moon, there is space, right? Yeah. Is there any shape, any form, anything there? Is there anything there?

What do you mean? It's—what saying—so if there is something—when you have an empty space—we talk about the Earth; we're talking about the empty space between the Earth and the moon—would you ever see water floating there in space, in deep space?

Exactly. So where's the Earth—where's the water come from? According to Genesis, it's saying the spirit was hovering over the surface of the water. Yes. If there was no object which had—I said the form—your mind is like there's no solid ground. I'm saying the form—mind, because that's your interpretation; it's not—the Bible says it was formless. That means there—everything is all over the place; there's no form. You didn't say everything is all over the place; that is you saying—check the meaning of form; check the meaning of void; check the meaning—no, it's not void. You are—you are question of form—no, I'm saying—Neo—it's the same. You are question of—not the same words. The Earth had no form and it was void. What do you understand by that? The same word. Why are you shaking? You just read it; you just read it. Read it again. Read it again, for the third time, maybe you'll understand. Form—are you going to read it aloud, so you don't mind?

Yeah, brother. Brother, calm down. See, read it aloud, bro. "When God began to create Heaven and Earth, the Earth being unformed and void"—sorry—"the Earth being unformed"—unformed means the Earth wasn't formed yet—arranged? No. Unformed means it wasn't formed yet. Bro, you—you got to go and take some English lessons. Hly, I don't mean to be condescending here, but at the end of the day, this is a very simple statement which anyone can—what the dictionary meaning of form—form—no, look for the formless; look for something that is formless in the dictionary. No, no, unform—unform. Okay, look—unform, then go on, but not form. It's a simple statement in the Bible which anyone who reads it with sincerity will understand. The—the Earth wasn't formed yet, and it was empty, like you said earlier; it was empty like the empty space between the Earth and the moon here. So there is—two—one is—which—which word you're looking for now? Un—unformed. What does it say? There's two explanations here: one is without definite form or shape. Good. She packed the un—the unformed batter. Okay, is the first one we're talking about? What is unformed batter? Batter? Yeah, yeah. It says that's talking about food, man. Is it—says some form? Yeah, yeah. So take the first one. What does the first one say by your own dictionary? What does it say? Listen, we are checking the dictionary; we have to finish it, so finish it; don't cut me—go. Listen, I'm telling him the word form means unarranged, and I'm trying to explain to him what is his question; what is he trying to say. My question is about Genesis 1 now. It says, "She packed the unformed batter"—something which has no shape and form. Let me finish. Why did you ignore the first one? Finish. Let me finish. Okay, go on. What is the first one though? Not having developed or being developed fully. Yes, so it—it is my point; it was not properly arranged. No, because the second statement, when he says the Earth was void—look for that now. Look for—look for that word. I said it's unformed. I know, but the second says not fully developed, but what you're doing now is—are you listening?

I am.

Not fully developed. Your understanding of form is wrapped really. Yes, read the first definition again. There's no sh—are you going to read the first definition again? Read that. Why—why you ignoring that? Read it, then—no, you read. I don't have my glasses on. You read. It says, "Without a definite form." Okay, without a definite form—ite. Okay, the word is—so when something doesn't have a form—imagine without form—the word is—that's fine; that's fine; that's fine. The word definite means—fine. What means it does definitely have no form? No, no, no. It's like measure—something that can be measured. Okay, good. You see, you—it's not honest. The word def—come down. You see the word defin means it—it's unmeasured. Can I—where you are running away? I'm not running away, by the way. What is this running away all the time? What is this running—this guy—from my challenge that I understand this guy—from my challenge of the Trinity all the time. What is def—definite means—how many times you going to repeat this? Yeah, because you are getting it out of context. I didn't—because the next statement—cannot be measured. That's it. You know something; it doesn't say there's no sh—okay, now look for the word void; look for that word—void—but now you agree—no, no—because to put them together—no, no, no; it's different. What's different? It's different. What is different? Deep—what is different? Deep is void. It didn't say that the Earth is unformed. Read it again. Read it again. Listen, for the fourth time: "And God began to create Heaven and Earth, the Earth was being unformed and void." Yes, yes. So it's the same, right? It's the same in the same statement. Yes. Okay, so what does void mean? Void means there's nothing—nothing—emptiness. Emptiness. So if something is empty, where did the water come from?

What do you mean, the water—you see, I don't like you taking it out of context. I don't like—again, I'm putting it in context. It says unformed means it cannot be measured or it's unarranged. List—unarranged. This is what it says. What does void mean, sir? Like the word says—unform—me—can we agree the word unform means not arranged? Or—no, I don't agree with that. No. Bible definition says unarranged. You brought that up yourself. What the conversation about—why do you keep interrupting every time? Why do I do that? This is the point he is asking where the Bible says the Holy Spirit exists eternally, and I'm saying—creation—it was there, and God created heaven and earth, and he says the spirit was hovering on the deep of the—now listen—now the question is—do you still need this question? I can talk to one person. I don't like people interrupting unnecessarily. L—listen; you listen. Yeah, by the way, God always runs away from my Trinity debate, and he knows that—will you—will you take up the challenge? Not allowing this—you never answer anything about Islam. I do—you are not allowing us to do this. Wait—unformed—yeah, what you say? Okay, it says—yeah—"without a definite form or sh—" definite. It's English, and now let's look at—understand it. Let's look at the word void. Now, why you afraid to look at that word? Because the—can you bring up the word—something has no form, and then it's—it's form, and then it's—not something that is unformed and void means empty space. Do you agree? Empty space. But the Earth itself—read word now. The Earth itself—what I say? What does it say? Yeah, uh—"void." Okay. Yeah—"completely empty." Yes, yeah. That was—acting—yes. So if something is completely empty, what shape is it? The Earth is empty doesn't mean the Earth is—what—what does the Earth empty mean? What is—you don't know what's Earth—the one you're standing on. So now—thank you—so this is—is it—is it on—no, it is formed. How did it form? How—yes—go to geography lessons. Ah, see—r—so f—ser was there. How can you say f and there's nothing there? That's it. How can you say f? That's what your Bible says. Hello. That's what the Bible says. No, no, no, no, no. You—it says unformed and void, very clear, sir. It says Heaven and Earth is Creator, sir. Heaven and Earth, which means this Earth was there—an empty area—this what the definition is—an empty area or space. The huge desert void, for example. Desert is—it's—what? Doesn't mean there's no—doesn't mean there's no land. It's running away. See, running away; running away; running away. And then—does anyone see me running away? I don't run away from this Christian at all or any other. So is there a solid ground in desert? Let me finish. You—let me finish. Why do you do that? I'm asking—stop interrupting; let me finish. He says here—"an empty area or space." Yes, area—yeah, it's important that—can you keep your mouth shut for a minute while I'm discussing this? Can you do that? I'm sorry to be rude, but you have—you have really taken it too far now. Go ahead. It says here—the next statement says—"The emptiness of outer space." Yes, so there—wait—wait—what is—two—two examples—one is—so in the context that your Bible is talking about f is this—wait—by the way, what does uh—what does Genesis—which version of the Bible you're using, by the way? The—which one? Theak—the Jewish themselves. Okay, because you're not a trinitarian; you don't—you don't believe in the other Bibles. I believe in Trinity. What are you talking about? So is God a Trinity? Seriously? God exists with the Son and the Holy Spirit. I didn't ask if he's eternal; I asked you is it Trinity? I explain to you they were uncreated; they exist equally for all eternity—for equally. Yes. So why is the Holy Spirit and the father ignorant of the—to—if they're equal—the Holy Spirit—yes—where did he say it doesn't know—in MTH—Mark 13:32—that the Holy Spirit doesn't know? Yes, it says only the father—what does only the father mean? Say the Son and the angel—no, it says only the father. If there's—let's read it—let's read—I call you a liar if there's no Holy Spirit mentioned there; you are a liar. And if he says only the father, you're a liar. No, no, no, no. Now you a liar. Now I say only the father means what? There's no Holy Spirit mentioned there; you agree? Hold on—agree? Can I agree? Can I talk? There's no Holy Spirit; you agree? Can I talk? There's no Holy Spirit; do you agree? Keep repeating—no, no; it's a simple question. I will answer, but if you let me talk—do you agree? Let me answer. Do you agree? I will—I will answer, sir. Do you agree? Ask me—do you agree? Listen, you can't impose—you can't impose your answers on me; it does not work like that with me; maybe with him it doesn't—do you want me to answer you if you will not agree what I'm saying? Okay, do you agree it's only the father? I'm saying—do you agree it's only the father? Holy Spirit said—holy spirit. Okay, I will—you withdraw? I will—no, I don't—no, I don't withdraw. Was the Holy Spirit—was the Holy Spirit mentioned? The Holy Spirit—can I answer without interrupting? Okay, keep quiet for a minute and I'll answer. The holy spirit in that verse is not explicitly mentioned; so you a liar? Can I finish? Li—I said one minute; I said one minute, and you already talking 10 seconds. You know what—wait—wait—wait. You li—you know who lied here? You said you're going to keep quiet for a minute and you interrupted. No, but the Holy Spirit—and you—I haven't finished; I haven't finished. Okay, now my question to you: does it say only the father? Yes. When he says only the father—does it include the Holy Spirit? I don't know; he never mentioned there. You go—that's my—now you answer. When it says only the father—he wants to answer now. Okay, let me—let me ask someone—let me ask someone—I don't know—I know everyone here—it's not mentioned. Why do you want to put your word—why you want to put your word there when it's not—you know what—no, no—let's be honest—no, you're not—h—what's your name? You're not honest; your—you already said—hash—Hashim—my name is—I know. When he says the toilet are only for the ladies, does it mean the men only—only—you know these guys—sometimes the most basic things they don't understand—like this guy here, he doesn't want to—the most basic—listen—why do you listen to—saying—please—the father only—the father means—what? He talks for a minute now. Listen carefully: one man—one man—one—one man—the Bible says only the father knows the hour. Okay, it—listen—yeah—clear, and I agree, but then he says it means the holy spirit is parted, but it—everyone else including the Holy Spirit. Okay, so if you see a new Bible—if you see another Bible—when they write only the father and the holy—then you say somebody has corrupted their way. If I say the toilets are only for the ladies—when there's a—when there's a sign saying only ladies—does it mean the men can go as well? Does it mean the man can go—only—thank you. So when he says only father means what? It doesn't mention Holy Spirit. You—I said—add the word—you add to the word—you know—because by the definition of the language—when he says father—noig—there's no ambig—only—actually, you're right; there is—that it is only the father. Thank you very much. Didn't—so what does only father mean? Why are you—why are you mentioning hly? Because the word only excludes everyone else except the father. Why did you add the holy spirit? Because I just told you—you're not listening. No—why did you add—if it's not there? Wr—read by lips—the word—listen to both of you—if you keep quiet—you listen—you'll understand. If it says only the father, it means it excludes everyone else including the Holy Spirit. You said—you said—you said—said Al—only father means the Holy Spirit—nonsense—said—by the way, that is your Bible—if nonsense—that's your problem anyway. These guys—stop aggressive—stop being aggressive—stop holding my hand—stop holding my hand. I'm going to use this—I'm going to use this dialog—running away. I am saying running away—only the father—running—only the father—see—running—where am I running? Only—want you know—have you feel—says only—he ini the holy—and I said no—I did not lie—because by implication—when he says only the father—okay—when he says only—let me ask you—be sincere—be sincere—when he says only the father—the only God is immortal—does it mean you're immortal? No, I'm not. Okay. Are you mentioned in the Bible? Thank you. So by implication of the word only—immortal is God Almighty—it excludes everyone else. Similarly, in Mar 13:32, when he says only the father—you and I are not mentioned there—the holy spirit is not mentioned there. Sim—just like the word—don't interrupt—just like the word—when he says only God is immortal—you and I are not mentioned there—Jesus is not mentioned there—but we know for a fact by implication only God Almighty can be immortal—none of us can—similarly—wait—wait—I will finish—I will finish—similarly—Network—in Mark 13:32—when it says—no one knows the hour—not the angels in heaven—not the son—meaning Jesus Christ—you agree? So Jesus Christ is ignorant of the hour even though he's fully God according to you. Yeah—no problem—but it is for him—let me finish this—I will—trust me—when he says only the father knows the hour—it excludes everyone else—the humans—the Angels—Jesus—the Holy Spirit—everyone—only means exclusivity—just like only moral in—in one Timothy—now the word is—wr—explicitly say—just give me a refill—a b please—it says—I'm listening—I'm listening—"only the father knows the hour." Thank—he didn't mention anybody else—so it is not in your—if h—your—your—I mean your own mind—to add who is part and who is not—it didn't make s—I'm saying—saying—it says only the father knows it—he didn't mention holy spirit—so you are not in a position to say the Holy Spirit doesn't—so he didn't mention it—he didn't mention—sir—sir—he doesn't know the meaning of only. Are you listening to me? If I say only him and this guy went with me—it does say—it doesn't say that any other person go with you—you have to stick to what he says. So at least Jesus is mentioned—that—I—I think we should move on—be here all day—let's move on. That's fine; you don't want to exclude it—don't exclude it—but I know—and anyone who listens to the word—"only the father"—understands it—just like the only one who is immortal is God Almighty—even though you and I are not mentioned there—we know that we can't be immortal—so we can be—according to his logic—we can be—well, according to godwins maybe—but this guy is a different guy. Okay, so now—yeah—I know—let's move on now. Now you agree that Jesus didn't know the hour; do you agree? I agree. Al—is Jesus's coal knowledge with the father? No—he do the will of the Father; the father gives him his—listen—I said one thing is clear—I start—when I started with you—I said the Son and the father and the Holy Spirit exist co-equally—I didn't say they are equal—I said they exist—no—you said they are coal—now you change the dream—the—I will not lie—I said they exist—I didn't say they are equal—but that doesn't even make sense. They exist equally—what does it mean? Because—are you trying to say they exist eternally? Because exist co-eternally doesn't make sense—eternally. Yes. Okay, say that—so me—so you agree they are not coal? Yes. You agree they are not co-equal? Where—g—i—as soon as you found—know this guy is not a trinitarian—like God—re—he runs away. That's fine; that's fine. Trinitarian—are you trinitarian? I'm telling you—what do you understand by the Trinity? The Trinity simply means the father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are one in agreement in whatever is happening—on whatever God wants done—the Son and the Holy Spirit get it done for him. Okay, that's what—when you say one in agreement—that means they agree about everything—everything. Okay, did Jesus agree to die on the cross?

What do you mean, I agree to die? Did he willingly die on the cross?

Yeah, because he said he came not to be saved but to give his life. That was my question. That's what he said.

No, what—that's what he said. Okay, in the garden of G—enemy—why is he begging God to save him? He did not beg. What did he do in the garden of GTH? Say, "If it is possible, let this car pass by." He didn't say—no—but if they agreed, why should he ask this question? What do you mean? Imagine you—you agree with your son to go to the gym, then your son will ask you, "Dad, why should we go to the gym?" If he's in total agreement, he wouldn't question you; he would say, "Dad, let's go to the gym." But in this case—Jesus—you know what he says—what does he say? Yeah—I'm wasting my time. Yeah, you see—are you wasting your time with me? No, no—listen—wait—are you wasting your time with me? Saying the question—you're—don't listen to these guys; they run away; they run away. Listen, I'm going to wrap up now. You know what—Daniel and this guy—God—I challenged them openly to debate the Trinity with me, but they run away. Okay, anyway, let's get back—mam—a prophet—do that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't go by your conditions; I don't go by your conditions; I'm just dist—are they distracting you? You are distracting—I'm distracting you—you keep going—so they're not distracting you? I'm distracting you—you are the one leaving—I'm—wow. Okay, that's fine; that's fine. Sincere chr—what was I saying? What you were saying—Jesus went—died willingly—but I'm telling you in the garden of God's enemy, he basically sweats blood. Yes, because he's afraid to go on the cross, and he tells—"Take this cup away from me"—what—wait—wait—what? But—"Let it be your will be done"—my will—I know—but when he says—"Take the cup away from me"—what does he mean? He says—he made a request—that—if it's more than request—it was pleading—no, no, no—if it's possible—yeah—"Let this cup pass by"—what does that mean? What do you mean—but—no—don't take it halfway—but he didn't stop there—back—"Not by my will"—I already mentioned that—sorry—didn't you hear me mention that? Yeah—but—that—you cut it halfway—no, I didn't—I mentioned it—he's still willing to fulfill the father's will—but why did he ask if the only—sir—he says—"Not my will but your"—so the father's will is that he should go—which means his will and the father's will are not the same—he does the will of the father—are you—are you hearing me? He doesn't die—he says—"I cannot do anything"—God is afraid that you might—you might say something that might—

Embarrass him. Call you. Yeah. Godin, run away. Bye. You're the weakest. Name. Bye-bye. Okay. Now get back to the conversation. So when Jesus says, "No, no, wait, wait," when he when he says, "Take the cup away from me," can you please explain what that means?

I'm coming. One. I have to explain to you that Jesus, throughout his ministry, he said, "I am not here at my own will but to do the will of the one who sent me." Yes, I age with that. So that Miss so that mission has to be met, and God's decree cannot be changed. So what was his Miss? Listen, listen. What was his his mission? Is that he come and die on the cross. That miss that is that's fine. That's fine. I AG I agree. I'm agreeing with you. Look. So that was his main mission. Now, so that is the will of the Father. Okay. So when he makes his own will as a request, what was his will? He says, "If it is possible," what is possible? "If it is possible," what is possible? Listen, listen. If what is possible, Father, if it is possible, what is it possible? Are you listening?

Yeah, I'm trying to understand what because I'm staying what he say, "If it's possible, let this cup pass by." And what does that mean? Now he ended up by saying, "But not my will, but your..." You please explain before you go. Let me explain. Your will be done. Me. Whatever his will is is not relevant. You know, you know what you have done. Whatever his will is, you are the whole you the whole statement from Jesus: "Submit to God, let your will be done." So my will is not Rel... Can you please explain the first half of that statement? It's an FK statement. You can't cut it half. I didn't cut it enough. Enough. I said explain the first bit, then explain the second bit. Be explain without the last bit. Okay, I did not say avoid the last bit. I said explain what it means. "Take the cup away from me." He says, "Father, if it's possible, let this cup pass by." Okay, what does that mean? "But not my will, your..." What does it mean? The bit about the cup. What does it mean? The suffering. Yes. What suffering? Explain it to me. The beating, the nailing on the cross. Everything. Was that his mission? Yes. Did Jesus know that was his mission? He knows that his main mission... It's part of... Why does he want to find a different way? He didn't. He said because he still asks the Father's will to be done, even no the end. What is the point of questioning now? What is the point of questioning? I am... Yeah, the Father sent you, right? And then you are making a request, and you still insist that if it's not possible, your will be done. It's more of submission, you know, like the way I the the example I gave you about the Father and the son want to go to the gym. If the Father tells the son, "Yeah, you and I we have to go to the gym," yes, and the son instead of just agreeing and submitting to what the Father said, he agreed... Can I finish the question on the way? You know you always do this every time I'm asking a question, trying to explain the way... Look, my analogy, I'll say the way I want it, please. Okay. So when he says you have to go to the gym, yes, instead of, you know what submission would mean? Submission would mean the Father's request will be obeyed by the son unquestionably. Yeah. That is called total submission. Yeah, to the will Father of the requestor here, which is the Father in this case. Now wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's a request. Why will you not let me finish? Why you put question there? Why will you not let me finish? Can you let me finish the analogy? I'm not talking about Jesus here. I'm giving analogy. It has to match with what we are what we are discussing. I will give the analogy the way I want, not the way you want. Is that okay? The cont... So now now the question, the context is very similar if you let me finish, you'll realize it. Okay. So please don't interrupt me this time. When the son instead of submitting to the Father's request to go to the gym, yes, he turns back to the Father, and he says, "Father, can we please not go to the gym and go somewhere else?" But I en finished yet. M. Yes. When he asks this question, don't tell me how to finish my analogy. You say the analogy, the Bible, you say about the gym and the Father... Go on. You say... Okay. It says, "Father, is it possible that we don't go to the gym, but we go to the swimming pool?" Right. But if you still insist, I'm going with you. That's it. Okay. If you still insist, would you call that total submission? Yes? Or you calling it questioning? No. The request. It's a request. It's not questioning. When you make a request, it doesn't question. Request can be question? No, no. It's not. It's not. Anyway, look, look. You're making it hard and necessary. Okay. So Jesus knew this was his mission. Questiones and request. Jesus, by the way, you know what Jesus did? Yes. What did he? He fell down on his forehead. Yes. And he prayed to God when he made this request. And did he get up and do... So it wasn't just a simple... Did he get up and do that? When did I say he did that? I said he frustrated. Don't and get up and did that as well. When did I say that? Why you bringing up things? Because you... Why are you bringing up things? Did I say he's doing the Salah like the Muslims though? Why is he saying he did that? Because that's what the Bible says. Why? That's what the Bible says. He on his face. He fell on his face. No, I'm asking you why you why you always complicate things. I want to know. Let me... I tell you what. I will let you speculate the way you want. I will tell you what the Bible says. The Bible says he fell on his forehead on the ground. Yes. And that to me is a frustration. Whether he was flat on the earth or not, it wasn't a simple request like, "God, can you please take the cup away from me?" No. He actually submitted totally on the earth with his forehead on the ground, and then he prayed to God. And you know what, at that time, was he sweating blood? Yes. He was sweating blood. So he was in full agony. Yes. And this agonizing nature of the one who is one with God, according to them, is now asking the question to God, basically's telling him, "Take this cup away from me. Let It Be Your Will be done, not my will." I want to ask a question. I didn't cut it as I said. Anybody here believe in God? Do we question God or we make request to God as a Believer? It's the same thing. Semantics. Do we question him of what he does or we request that he does? By the way, remember he's one with God, so he shouldn't be asking him. No, no. Because he was requesting to God that if it's possible, that is the request. If it's possible, let this... But let it not be my way. But I agree with you. Make a request. It's not questioning. In fact, by the way, it's pleading. It's more than requesting and questioning. It's pleading. Pleading request the same? No, it's not the same. Request, pleading is not the same as request. You plead you somebody. It's a request. Plead means you beg someone. What are you pleading for? It means you're begging someone to do what? To do something. And you're earnestly begging someone to do something for you. That's called pleading word pleading. Yeah. And requesting, it's not the same. Yes. It has the same meaning, really? Yes. I plead with you. So if I request you to give me some water, is that pleading for you to give me water? I give you water, sir. You know there's a problem with him, man. This guy doesn't look at the diction. Okay. Anyway, listen, listen. You cannot change the fact that he submitted 100% the will of God. I agree with you. So I don't know. He submits the question. Question? No, no. My question was very simple. If this was his main mission, he shouldn't be asking that. Leing. Requesting. All questioning. A son request Father to help. Possible was his request. Wait. Was his request granted? No. What does it tell you? His prayer was rejected. He says... Why was his prayer rejected? The will of the Father was carried out. So his prayer was rejected. What do you mean rejected? What was Jesus's prayer? It's a request. A request. Okay. What was his request? His request is that he should let the car pass away. Was the cup passed away? No. So his his request was rejected. Because he said... No. Because he said the he realize it is two aspect. I. He said, "If it's possible, let it pass, but if it's not, I submit." So God say, "Okay, if you submit, then I I..." So it's two requests. No, not two request. Two. One is either you let me let it pass or the second one is you carry it out. So it's two request. Okay. Should I tell you why it's not to request? Should I tell you why it's not to request? But I want you to be quiet without interrupting because you always do that. I don't know why. When when you pray to God, yes, don't you automatically imply that it is his will, not your will? That's without you saying those words. Look. For example, say, for example, someone doesn't have a child, yes, and they are begging God, pleading with God, praying to God, requesting God, whatever word you want to use, yes, "Bless me with a child." That woman did not say, "Let It Be Your Will Not My will," but this by the request or by the pleading or by the prayer is cried already that she has full faith in God who will either Grant her the prayer or Grant her something better or something else in in his place. Whatever it is, but the important thing is whatever it is, it goes without saying. Even if Jesus did not say, "Let It Be Your Will be done," sorry, "Let It Be Your Will Not My will," even if you did not say, the point remains that his request was to save him from the crucifixion. Now that request of his, was it rejected? Okay. What, like I said, one is, "If it's possible, let it pass. If it's not, then will be done." Two requests. What is the first request? The first one says, "If it's possible..." Well, you forgot the one about "Take the cup away from..." That was the first request. So is that one request? That's one request. And the second is, "If not, let your way be done." So which of these two requests? Answer the second one. And what about the first one? Yeah, you answered the second one. No, I know the second one. You answered. What was the first one? The first one. Guys, guys, please. The first one is the cup should pass. Did he accept or reject the first request? He reject the first. He he... What? Rejected. Rejected. So you're saying Jesus... He says, "When I decree, you cannot change it." He decree. Jesus cannot pray to change. That's fine. How can God's prayer be rejected? Yeah, you can go back a bit. How can God's prayer be rejected? According you... Jesus... I say he... God... You are saying he's God. You said you believe in the Trinity. Yeah. But I didn't say he's God. So you don't believe Jesus fully God. He said he exist with the Father. He didn't say he's God. In fact, your understanding of the Trinity is completely W. What is the meaning of Trinity? Look. Your understanding of the Trinity is completely W. You should know that as a Christian. Three in unity. Simple. So in unity. In what unity? In what? In in Authority? In purpose only. In purpose. Yes. That would include you as well. So are you part of the... See, Father, just as I am in you and you are in me. So they are in me. So you agree with me and the are the Muslims that Jesus is not God? What do you mean he not God? Which part of that you didn't understand? You cannot say he's God or not God. He say he he was not created. Are you now saying not created? That wasn't my question. Okay. Is the Father God? Yes. You see how quickly you answered that. Now the same question: Is the Son God? No. Good. The Son is not God. Is the Holy Spirit... So how many gods have you got? It's not God. You just said his own... You just said the spirit of God is God. Spirit of God also the Holy Spirit and the Father are the same? No. It lives in you. It lives in you. Are you... Tell it says the spirit will emanate from the Father, which means it resides in him. He sent it out. So it's it's something that... You see, you the mistake you are doing here is you are comparing yourself as a human being to spirit being. God. Actually, I didn't compare to God. All you think... I don't know where you get that from. Your mind is like that. It's a human... You know what's in my mind. It's human thinking. God send the spirit out. Yes. God send the spirit. Are you telling me that the Father he send the spirit, he send the way... So all emate from him? Are you seriously telling me that the Father is the holy... God is God. The word, the spirit of God is God. Okay. Let me ask you this that it's emate from him. You said the Holy Spirit is God. Is that right? Do you agree with that? Yeah. You're completely certain. Does the Holy Spirit need permission to talk? What do you mean permission to talk? Does God need permission to talk? What do you mean permission? You know what permission means? You want me to open the dictory every time I said to you... Desperate and the Son, that's the bding of the Father. Does the Holy Spirit... So they take authority from the Father. Does God need permission to speak? Why do you mean God has permission? Which part of that English you don't understand? Expain. Do you understand the meaning of God? Do you understand the meaning of permission? Do you understand the mean... You're holding me again. Stop doing that. I don't want you to hold me. Please don't touch me. If I cannot touch you, then we should stop discussing. No, you don't have to touch each other to... Because it's more a cordial thing. There's nothing wrong with that. Well, I don't like it. If if you mind, if you don't mind, don't touch me, please. Okay. Anyway, this is simple. Moving on. I've already told you what the Holy Spirit and the the Son, that's the will of the Father. So they don't do their own will. So if you want to put... Can God need permission to... What are you talking about? It's a simple question. Are you able to answer or not? They only do the bidding of the Father. Does simp... Does God need permission to speak? I don't know.