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Hey everybody, Dr. G here. I'm a clinical and forensic psychologist as well as a body language expert. And today we're going to be analyzing more of the new UFO files. Before we get started with this, couple of quick things. One, I wanted to make sure you know this is not a psychological evaluation of any kind. These are just my opinions. In addition to that, I do want to remind you to like and subscribe if you want to see more content just like this. All right, let's go.
What we're going to be analyzing today is more strange documents and videos released in the UFO files by the Department of War. Now, last time we analyzed Apollo 11 and Apollo 12 documents. Today, we're going to be looking at Apollo 17. And after that, we're going to be looking at some strange objects that were caught on video. All right, let's just jump right in.
What I'm going to start with today is the astronauts talking from the shuttle. So, this was actually during the Apollo 17 mission. Let's watch a minute of this so we can see their behavior and their body language, and then we're going to talk a little bit about how this compares to Apollo's 11 and 12. I believe that once you uh start looking for something and uh when Ron heard about what we were doing, I'm sure he started looking himself and what we had seen and that uh leads you to see things. Now, that's not seeing things that aren't there. It's it makes you look for things that are there and uh that's extremely important and that's where uh the kind of uh training all three of us have had uh I think has made it us made it possible for us to uh uh find a lot of things that might not otherwise otherwise been found.
Now, I know that this press conference is mid-flight, so I would expect that their behavior and body language might be a little bit different, but at this point, we're not seeing the same type of self soothing that we saw on Apollo's 11 and 12.
>> This one is address to all three crewmen. What will you remember most about this mission?
>> Boy, that's a loaded question, Gordy.
>> That was interesting. He asked what we they would remember most about this mission. If you watch the astronaut on the left, he starts scratching his head. Now, that is a way to pacify ourselves. That is a way that when we're feeling uncomfortable, we sometimes do that, particularly when we're feeling stressed.
>> What will you remember most about this mission?
>> Boy, that's a loaded question, Gordy. There's uh so many things, but I think probably the thing that uh
Now, let's go through and read some of the transcripts of the odder things that occurred and then we're going to come back to just another minute of this. Now, we're going to be looking at some highlighted parts from this transcript. The highlighted parts were actually highlighted by the Pentagon, not me. Now, I have highlighted some other documents, but I did not highlight this one. Now, for context, what we're going to be reading is when they were a few hundred miles from Earth. So, this was just a little bit after they had launched.
So now it says, "Now we've got a a few very bright particles or fragments of something that is drifting away as we maneuver." Roger. Understand? There's a whole bunch of big ones on my window down there. Just bright. It looks like the Fourth of July out Ron's window. Yes. Now you can see some of them in shape. They're very jagged angular fragments that are tumbling. Roger. They look like fluid of some sort. Not to me. They look like pieces of something. Roger. They're very bright.
So, at this point, it sounds like they're looking out their windows and there are very bright angular fragments. One of them seems to think it looks like liquid. The other seems to to suggest that they are tumbling through space and there are fragments. Then he goes on to state, "Bob, for the most part, these fragments are not or are tumbling at a very slow rate. I tried a couple of pictures of them, different settings. You may get an idea of what at least the patterns look like."
Now, I went looking to see if I could figure out what pictures these were. Here's a picture that was taken around the time that this conversation was happening. I can't say for sure that it's the same thing, but this is the best I could find.
Now, if we go on, it says, "Well, you know, I don't know. There are a number of possibilities. If if you had some kind of I get the impression maybe they were curved a little bit as if they might be off the side of the SIVB, which is the Saturn module, which is what helped them launch. That's actually the same thing that they thought back in Apollo 11 and Apollo 12. Whenever they would try to figure out what they were seeing, they'd say, "Well, maybe it was part of the Saturn module." And he goes on to state, "That's a wild guess." And further on, it states, "Ice chunks possibly, or maybe there's paint coming off of it." Roger, I noticed on one trip of up the elevator last week nearing one of the flags. I thought it was on the S2, but it might have been on the SIVB. Looked like they were peeling. Maybe that's what you've got.
So, at this point, basically, they're running through what they could possibly be seeing outside of their window. They're seeing tumbling fragments. They're trying to make sense. Is this part of the spaceship? Is it paint peeling? What is going on here?
So then they go on to continue to talk about how the fragments appear to be tumbling. And then he states, "Every once in a while, a fragment of considerably higher velocity than the others. It goes across my window, but that's very rare. Roger. Hey, that's the field of view I saw at my window, Jack. What do you do? You see it now?" Yes. And Bob, at least there's no apparent relative motion between fragments.
Now, we're going to skip a significant amount of time and read some more. Okay, add to add to today. Not last night, but I guess the first night I was in bed, I definitely saw some of these because I had a hard time going to bed. To start with, I saw some of the same peripheral horizon type things you said were not the type of data you were looking for. But I also saw uh some sets of the streaks. And probably the most imposing thing I remember and the one the last thing I remember before falling asleep was the fact that there was a very bright spot that flashed right between my eyes like a very bright headlight like a train coming at you only with a flash. It's difficult probably to estimate the frequency of any of these because I was in a sort of sleepy hazy mode.
So now we're not talking about tumbling jagged objects. He's talking about a light that looked at him like a train coming towards him. But then as today I saw some that flashed and lit up the horizon, some that lit up the per lit up peripherally. And I guess as you say, there's a different kind of data. But I did see them there and today they impressed me. As I talked about with the other Apollo mission, these guys are scientists. They are naturally skeptical. If they experience something, they aren't going to go, "Well, this is something unusual." They're going to say, "I'm going to figure out what this is." And that sounds exactly like what he's trying to do. He's trying to get through process of elimination figure out what could this possibly be.
He goes on to state, "When you don't have anything else to do, why don't you have somebody predict where the SIVB is? I think that I've got her spotted behind us and above us with respect to the Earth and our travel from it." So, they're really only able to think this must be part of the Saturn module. This must be part of what launched us up into space because nothing else would make any sense.
Now, he goes on to say, "Hey, Bob, I'm looking at what what Jack was talking about, and it's definitely not a particle that's nearby because there is another one I can look at and get a three-dimensional comparison with. It's it's a bright object and it's obviously rotating because it's flashing. It's way out in the distance and as I say because there are particles that are close by and it's obviously not one of those. It's apparently rotating in a rhythmic fashion because the flashes come around almost almost on time and it's as if we look back to Earth and it's up around 11:00 or maybe 10 or 12 Earth diameters. I don't know whether it does you any good but there is something out there." And then he goes on to say, "And I just want to emphasize that it's definitely not not one of these particles that tends to look like a star out there. It's something physical in the distance."
And they continue to describe the motion they're seeing. Let's call it the XZ plane of the spacecraft. One unique thing about it, Bob, is that it's got two flashes as it comes around in in rhythmic fashion. You get a very bright flash and then you get a dull flash and then it'll come around with a bright flash and then a dull flash. So they go on to try to explain that they think it's the side of the Saturn module and then the engine bell. So basically they're suggesting that the Saturn module is rotating and that you're seeing one side of it, then you're seeing the engine bell. What's more interesting is they go on to say, "The commander doesn't think I can see the engine bell on that thing." Roger, Jack, is that with a moninocular you're looking at it. So a moninocular is basically this thing that magnifies by a huge amount. So a So if you're looking at something through the moninocular, it's almost like a telescope or something like that. it's going to tremendously magnify what you're looking at. However, he goes on to say he couldn't see the engine bell if he had 10 binoculars. So, what they're saying is that that cannot be the Saturn module. So, what they're seeing rotating is truly an unidentified object at this point. And when they're out in space back in 1973, there shouldn't be that many things out there. This should not be that difficult to figure out what this is.
And since there was all the talk about the Saturn module, I went to see if I could find any pictures of it myself. And I actually did find a picture from the Apollo 17 mission. This was a picture they took of the Saturn module. It's quite different than what was described with the flashes of light with all of the angular sort of particles that were moving around. So when they said maybe it was the Saturn module, it seems highly unlikely because this is a picture they took of it and it sounds very different than what they were describing.
Now they go on to continue to try to problem solve for what it is. There's never a good solution provided, but I want to jump down to another part because I think this one is absolutely fascinating. Hey, I just saw a flash on the lunar surface. Oh, yes. It was just out there north of Grimaldi. Just north of Grimmaldi. You might see it if you got anything on your seismometers, though. A small impact probably would give a fair amount of visible light. Okay, we'll check. It was a bright little flash right out there near the crater. See the crater right at the edge of Grimaldi? Then there's this other one north of it. Fairly sharp. North of this is where it was. Just a thin streak of light. How about putting an X on the map where you saw it?
So, it seems like he saw a strange flash of light from a crater on the moon, which to me is absolutely fascinating. Now, here's a picture that looks very familiar to the Apollo 12 pictures. There were a lot of pictures from Apollo 12 that showed a lot of very odd artifacts in the sky. And if you look at pictures from these missions, it is pitch black. The way that it looks through the rest of this picture is how all of the pictures look. It's just pure black. So, to see something like this stand out is really phenomenal. Now, this was taken during the Apollo 17 mission. So once again over the course of multiple missions over multiple years we are now getting strange phenomena from the moon taken by NASA. It just fascinates me that we have these pictures.
Now before we move on I wanted to jump back to the press conference for just a couple more minutes.
>> Well Gardy that that is a difficult question. It has been a fascinating experience from so many uh detail aspects. I guess generally uh speaking the thing I carry uh back with me I hope is an incre in increased perspective not only for the history of the solar system but I hope for the future of mankind within that solar system.
>> That was a very interesting response and one that makes me wonder if they have a different perspective of the universe now that they have now experience things that make them see everything a little bit differently. periodic reports from each of you about gastric distress in one form or another. Does this trouble make you think that the three Skyab missions of 28, 56, and 56 days?
>> It's fascinating to see how differently they present than the guys from Apollo 11. This is only four years difference. It looks like it would be decades apart because their behavior is so different, because their way of interacting is so different. But it seems like they are a lot more calm about whatever it is they've experienced. And maybe it's because they're still mid-flight. It's very possible that having a few weeks quarantined waiting to respond to questions, maybe that makes you feel differently about the things you experienced. But at this point, we're seeing a very different type of behavior from the folks on Apollo 17. It's also very possible that they were debriefed on the strange things experienced on Apollo 11 and 12. But as you can see, their behavior is light years different. Looks like at times there was still some discomfort, but very, very different than Apollo 11.
Now, here's a little bit bit of audio that was released from the flight of Gemini 7. This was prior to the Apollo missions. So this was not a moon landing mission.
>> Loud and clear. Seven. Go ahead.
>> At 10:00 high.
>> So this would have been 1965. And he said that they have a bogey at 10:00 high. And this would have been when they would been have been very very high in the air.
>> This is Houston. Say again. Seven.
>> At 10:00 high. Roger 77, is that the booster or is that an actual sighting?
>> So, you heard him say, "Was that the booster?" That seems to be where they always go. Is this the booster? Is this part of the rocket? Is this part of what launches them up in the air and all of that? So, of course, that's the first thing they try to eliminate.
>> Say again, seven.
>> Okay, we have several looks like.
>> So, he said it looks like an actual sighting. Uh, you have any more information, estimated distance or size?
>> We also have the booster in sight.
>> And they also have the booster in sight. So, he's seeing the bogey, which would obviously be some kind of unidentified object in the sky, but he can also see the booster, so he knows it's not the booster.
>> Understand you also have the booster in sight. Roger. And we have very very many uh looks like hundreds of little uh particles flying by to the left out about uh 3 to four miles.
>> Hundreds of little particles flying out around 3 or four miles.
>> Understand you have many small particles going by on the left at what distance? Looks like a vehicle that's disintegrated.
>> Roger. And understand they're about 3 to four miles away. Are going to pull over.
>> Roger. And understand they were about 3 to four miles away.
>> Chevy control here. Again, the reference in that conversation to the third un unidentified object, of course, uh was or the third object was the bogey. There were several references to the bogey.
Now, I want you to keep in mind one thing that's very interesting if we're to pay attention to the sound of the way people were speaking is no one sounded that anxious. No one sounded panicked, which does make me curious if this is something they had experienced before or something that was a little bit more predictable than we would think. Maybe this was the first time they'd ever seen any kind of bogey like that. But the way that they responded makes me think maybe that that has been anticipated. Maybe that's something they've dealt with before.
Now, we're going to look at some of the videos that were released by the Department of War. These are all considered unresolved. So, in other words, they don't know what this is. This one right here is from Iraq. And as you can see, there's that little white dot there. What's always impressive to me is when there's something from the military that is left unresolved because you would think with something that's moving like this, even though I know it's very hard to see, that they would have some idea what it was to where it could at least be resolved. Here is more unresolved footage from Iraq. Watch closely. You're going to see a white object fly by. And while it's easy to think maybe it was a bug, maybe it's something that's more mundane, and maybe it is, you would think that that would be resolved by them. It wouldn't be something that would be left unnoticed because I'm sure they deal with bugs and flying things all the time. So, for this to be something that remains unresolved, I find fascinating.
And here's one from the UAE. Now, the farther ahead we go and the more technology that we have available commercially and from the military, it does become a lot harder to suggest entirely that this couldn't be man-made. Here's more footage from the UAE. Once again, the motion of this and the way that it moves is fascinating. If you just look at the speed at which this is moving, it's just incredible. And if we skip ahead a little bit, you can see that the patterns that it's moving in doesn't seem like it's some sort of animal or doesn't seem like a bird or something like that. Because I'm sure at the wrong distance with just the right way that the sun's hitting something, you could certainly mistake an animal or something like that for a a man-made object or a a a non-aterrestrial object, I suppose. But this is absolutely fascinating to me.
Now, here's another object. This one was in Oman. You know, part of understanding the forensics of these things is understanding how people react when they see something that they don't understand. You have to think of it through the lens of military is that when something is genuinely left unresolved for them, think about how much power, how much technology they have, if they truly cannot figure something out, how remarkably shocking that is. Here's another object in Greece. Now, with drone technology, it we're going to see more things like this that could be fake, that could genuinely just be something man-made. And this may genuinely be something man-made. But being able to come up with something that could fly around like this, it'll be a lot less convincing that it's not something that could be available commercially because drone technology now is ridiculous. It is incredible. And if you added some lights to it and you had it fly around in certain patterns, you can do pretty much anything you want. And this was October of 2023. So, in some ways, just because of the date of it, because of how recent it is, it becomes slightly less impressive in that sense because something like this could potentially be something commercially available. That being said, it continues to be unresolved. And you would think that if it was something commercial that the military could probably identify it.
Now, here's another one from the Middle East. This one's from 2020. It does seem like there are a lot of these that occur in the Middle East. Now, this is one from 2013, also from the Middle East. This one is incredibly peculiar. Like, I've never seen anything that looks quite like this before. But some of it, I can't tell if it actually has corners to it or if that's a lens flare. It's really hard to distinguish between something that's bouncing off of the camera and light or if it's actually fully shaped like this with all the points. And there's also that trail behind it. As you can see, there's that white trail behind it, which makes you think that maybe it has some kind of engine on it, which would suggest maybe this is something. in fact man-made. You would think if it was something interstellar that maybe it wouldn't need to have all of these trails. But it is an incredibly impressive thing to see. It's extremely unusual. And I'm curious if this is something that's going to be able to be debunked because if this isn't something that's debunked, it's certainly probably the most peculiar of all of the videos released by the military or by the Department of War.
All right, let's go and start to wrap things up here. Hopefully, this is helping you better understand some of the more unusual files that have been released. To me, the Apollo missions, Apollo 11, 12, and 17 are still the most shocking because those are issues that cannot be resolved by saying that these are man-made objects that what they experienced would be anything from the Cold War, military, or otherwise. These are very unusual experiences that are being experienced by scientists and skeptics. So, it's fascinating to read that. And the videos that we've seen, well, those are just mind-blowing. Some of those are very hard to explain and I hope that they continue to release more videos because I am absolutely fascinated where all this is going. If you have any other thoughts about this or if there's anything else you want me to analyze, please let me know in the comments below. Last thing before we get finished up is I do want to remind you to like and subscribe if you want to see more content just like this. All right, thanks for watching.