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We were all wondering how Tucker Carlson would react to Candace revealing what he told her about Erica. He allegedly believed that Erica was hardcore against Little Huts. That was before Charlie passed. And all this is weird because Erica went on a book tour in December 2025, 3 months after her husband's unaliving, and was advocating for Little Hats hardcore. All this seemed suspicious to people, but then Tucker spoke out and it caused one of the biggest meltdowns the internet ever experienced. Here is what he said.
>> Charlie Kirk was >> Yeah. >> Um, and he was not murdered for his opinions on transgenderism. Obviously, he was, I believe, and most people who knew him well, as I did, and was friends with him as I was believe he was most likely for his evolving views on. So, I I get it and a lot's at stake. The world is at stake. But from my perspective, I have a duty to say what I think is true. I'm often wrong, and I always say that because it it's a fact. I have been wrong a lot, and I may be wrong now, but I am sincere. I am saying what I believe is true, and I'm going to continue doing that no matter what.
>> And that came after Candace said this. All right, just as a reminder, >> it's this July 20th thing that it suddenly dawned on me what was bothering me about Erica being introduced pro-Israel and being pro on stage in the midst of everything Charlie was going through. July 20thish, Charlie vacationed in Maine for a couple of weeks. Okay, so let's just say from July 20th to July 30th, he went off radar and this is when Mikey McCoy and Eliza and Elizabeth McCoy joined them for the first time on vacation and they capture all these images that we're then going to see as soon as Charlie and it dawned on me. I totally forgot something. Okay, and I'm just going to have to ask Tucker for forgiveness for sharing this because I knew that there was something bothering me about this Maine vacation. I had a baby and I think I blacked out after his unaliving and didn't remember that I went up to Maine too. I went up to Maine with my husband in July. Okay. My son was born on May 1st. We were off air and then the first thing I did was I went with my newborn Roman and my husband up to Maine to do Tucker's show. I promise you I forgot that. I forgot that I had this I forgot that I went up to Maine until I was looking at this Erica speech and I was like I know what is bothering me about this speech. What's bothering me about this speech is that when I got off air with Tucker obviously you just have chatter like just chatter in the air like about everything you just discussed and what's happening and ob everything we said there. we're talking about EP and Tucker said to me and I'm I'm obviously I'm not going to get this verbatim but he was like yeah he talked about his speech and he just said they're like you know taking money from Charlie because of this whole speech and I was like yeah you know Charlie's kind of coming over to our side he's really had an awakening about this we it's crazy that I forgot this but it's the second part of what he said to me he said I just had dinner with him and Erica they were just here I think he said like last night. I kid you not, it was they were just there in Maine having dinner with Tucker. I remember this. I am 1,000% certain days within me. It was like Charlie was there and then I was there and he had dinner with Erica and he said something which is the reason why I was happy when they announced that Erica was going to be CEO because before we could have ever known um that Charlie was going to be as we were sitting here in Maine talking about what the pressure that Charlie was under Tucker was like I absolutely love Erica he's said this publicly a thousand times so I'm not revealing anything here and he was like she is like hardcore on the anti They'll train hardcore, guys.
So, let's get that timeline straight again. Candace says that story on her show how Charlie and Erica came down to Maine to visit Tucker. Then Candace went there and Tucker said Erica was hardcore pro um against Little Huts. Tucker then goes on record saying that he believes it was the Little Huts that had something to do with Charlie's unaliving. What a juicy timeline. But like I said, people on the internet completely lost their minds over this. Blake Neff was the first one, of course, to answer him. Here is what he tweeted. Actually, those of us who knew Charlie best, a group that doesn't include Tucker, do think that TR did it and was motivated by trans blah blah radicalism. Tucker is lying. He claims Tucker is lying. I love when he plays the actually guy because he got community noted so good.
First, let's see what happened in the comments. Someone says, "I would love to see you say that to his face. You won't because you're too much of a P to come out from behind your keyboard." Here is another one to which Blake actually answered, "Uh, you didn't even know him. You were an employee. You absolute loser." And Blake goes, "I spoke with him in person nearly every day, traveled with him, crafted his debate answers with him. I knew him very well." Here's another comment. Okay, Neff, I can truly say thousand percent Charlie would hate the little keyboard troll you've become. Honestly, I know that because the entire world hates you for this crap. Well, you know, don't hold back. And this one, Trisha Hope Tucker was a very close friend of Charlie's. You are the liar. No one trusts any of you. There is a reason they commented all that. Okay. Were Charlie and Tucker friends or as Blake says Tucker is lying? Let's hear what Andrew Kovette thought about it.
Right. Let's see what what Andrew said to Tucker. >> Really want people to understand Tucker, you and Charlie had such a unique and special bond and relationship. It was it was a deep friendship and you both >> uh had each other's back in an incredible way. You had his back, too. I know those stories as well. >> Yeah. And I promised I wouldn't get into any of that. But I will say, and I'm not going to, but I will say because I want this to be about Jesus and his love for Jesus and what he did to spread the word of Jesus throughout the world. But I will just say this that whenever I would come and do a gig for you guys, which was a lot cuz I really enjoyed it and he was so kind to invite me and defend my being there. But I would always, he's the only person I did this with. I would always say, "Hey, you know, let's like meet in my hotel room or have a meal." Like I I loved talking to him and it wasn't just to catch up on everything that's going on in the political world. He would always bring it back to God every single time. And it was so there's no one around like so he didn't need to be like, "Oh yeah, I really love God." LIKE JUST US AND HE'D be talking about that >> and you would come to Phoenix and you would reach out to I it was like I have so many memories of Charlie being like, "I can't I got to do dinner." Who you doing dinner with? Oh, Tucker's in town. I got to meet up with him. >> Always. Always. And he was so intellectually curious and flexible. And I think that also grew out of his Christian faith. And I know that as I've gotten older, it's been one of the things I appreciate most about believing in God is like you can admit when you were wrong. >> Huh.
So, let me get that straight. They praised Tucker as a very good friend of Charlie for as long as Tucker believed the official narrative. And then when Tucker said, "No, I think it was the little hats that had something to do with it." Suddenly Tucker is not in a friend circle. Look at that. Kovette said, "Deep meaningful friendship." That is Neff. Nylo X posted to be clear Blake Neff was Charlie's employee. Their relationship began and ended there. Candace, Tucker, and John Mappin were Charlie's friends. It appears Turning Point employees have forgotten their place in Charlie's world now that he's not around to correct them. H exactly. They speak for him. They decide who was Charlie's friend, who wasn't. They decide what his legacy is. And after watching Erica's recent appearance at TP USA Education and her claiming that she didn't have to do anything as CEO, she said to everyone, "You know your marching orders. Go do." Seems like maybe they did not know how to go and do something useful and truthful.
Let's see who jumped on the bandwagon of Blake Neff's lie and reposted it on X trying to spread it further. This screen grab video was done by Nyl as well. Ben Shapiro, Rob Schneider, Seth Dylan. Look at that. Melisande Jeremy Boring of course. There you go guys. These are the people that were spreading this lie that Tucker, Josh Hammer, of course, Alex Clark. Well, duh. That Tucker and Charlie weren't friends. They were not friends. Therefore, if Tucker says that Charlie was taken out by Jayce, it's not true. Yeah. Well, don't they feel stupid now? The group chat is firing up probably swearing at Kovette for opening his mouth yet again.
Here is Jimmy Door talking about the whole thing in front of a live audience. And I need to warn you, he's you know how Jimmy Door speaks. Okay, there is swearing and stuff. So still, let's have a look. >> Oh [ __ ] we got caught [ __ ] lying again. These guys are the worst liars in the world. And it's so easy to catch them because it's hard to keep track of lies. You don't have to keep track of the truth. You have to keep track of lies. And that's why these guys keep stepping on their dick before they get out of bed every day because they're the biggest bunch of [ __ ] liars in the world. And they were definitely in on the cover up of Charlie Kirk's unaliving if not in on the unaliving and that's my opinion. >> What a this just this this just they're still doing the Charlie Kirk show. That's not the Charlie Kirk show. It's the two dicks who were in on covering up Charlie Kirk's unaliving show. I guess that doesn't have a ring to it, huh? >> Juniors. >> Uh, let's just let's listen. >> I really want people to understand. >> I really want people to understand. He really wants people to understand >> you and Charlie had such a unique and special bond and relationship. It was it was a deep friendship and you both uh had each other's back. >> Well, everyone is fed up with Neff and Kovette. Andrew trying to become an Instagram influencer, writing on Charlie's following. Neff pretending him and Charlie were besties. Here are some comments again. They keep forgetting the internet exists. Yes, exactly. Guys, stick to the script. So, wait. Now, Charlie had no friends outside of this TPUSA stuff. None. Not one. I don't think that's the flex Blake thinks it is. Actually, it strengthens our case that they encapsulated him. Very very true. And this one, at a certain point in the not too distant future, this group of chuckleheads will separate and go their own ways. If they had split a few months ago, the damage done may have been limited to TP USA. But now it's so obnoxious that anywhere these people will go will likely be boycotted. That's what it is, right? It uh it follows you. What you do follows you.
But wait, it's not over. Laura Loomer got involved and you know whenever she speaks it is pure entertainment. She decided to claim that she was Charlie's friend and he even sought advice from her in the weeks leading up to his unaliving. Imagine this for a second. Charlie and Laura besties. The internet debunked her claims gloriously. Of course. Here is what she posted on X. In the weeks before he was unalived, Charlie Kirk was concerned about the growing threat of the woke reich polluting people's minds with anti-hate and he was very alarmed by the Islamification of America. I made a tweet that was critical of some of these woke reich personalities who I said would bring Charlie down. He invited me to his office and two weeks before he died I flew to Arizona and met with his team. Charlie wanted me to speak with them about ways we could strategize combating the woke reich and growing threats of Islam because he too was noticing the disturbing push of Christlam and uh whatever sympathizing by right-wing podcasters. This is all factual and verifiable. When I was there, a senior TP USA official told me they had security concerns and were particularly worried about leftist violence and groper violence, which is why all the doors are always locked and you have to have a key to get in. So yes, leading up to his unaliving, Charlie and his staff were very worried about anti-Little Hut's Charlie haters ambushing him because they constantly demonized him for not joining their cause. TP USA officials told me this when I was at the office. Oh, yet again someone saying two weeks before Charlie passed he told me this in private and he believed this in private and he actually wanted to do this not what he said in public men. I'm going to make a list. I'm literally going to sit down and make a list of people that had something like this to say. It's Frank Turk. It's all these pastors. Everyone had this profound conversation with Charlie right before he passed. But the audacity of this woman to claim those things has no limits, it's disgusting. We all saw that she was bashing him on X in the weeks leading up to his passing. This is her tweet that people immediately dug out. It's from July 13th. I don't ever want to hear Charlie Kirk claim he is pro-Trump ever again. After this weekend, I'd say he has revealed himself as a political opportunist, and I have had a front row seat to witness the mental gymnastics these last 10 years. Lately, Charlie has decided to behave like a charlatan, claiming to be pro-Trump one day, while he stabs Trump in the back the next. TP USA was only able to thrive thanks to the generosity of President Trump. So, wait, were they agreeing? Who was the enemy? Enemy or they were not agreeing. What's going on here? I thought she said they were exactly on the same page. That's why he invited her and seek her advice when she's seriously crazy. This type of delusion is not normal.
Candace answered her. Hey Laura, can you share the text messages of Charlie seeking advice from you regarding the woke reich and inviting you to TP USA accordingly? He thought you were a total nut job. So, this is surprising that he suddenly thought he needed your advice right before he was unalived. And Laura answered her. I'm going to read that tweet in a second. But first, let me read the Milo tweet because nobody believes it. Okay, nobody believes it. He goes, "If this is true, I will pay her a million dollars cash. No one has ever wanted to strategize with Laura Loomer. You might as well attempt a waltz with a turnip or do calculus with frog spawn." There were so many comments. People were freaking out about it. Honestly, X was a frenzy. Okay. And I believe that I don't know. Maybe Charlie would invite her because she said those wrong things about him that he doesn't support Trump was in July. He was still supporting him. He was still saying that because he was in his ear at the White House to stop the war and then Trump listened to him. I I believe they were on good terms. I need to further research what was happening around that time exactly July 13th. Charlie was known to reach out to people that disagreed with him. So that could happen but not to seek her advice. There is no way. But we know Laura thinks President Trump adores her. She writes her own stories that only happen in her head. Charlie might have invited her for a conversation. Everything else was made up by by her. I can bet. Charlie against woke reich. It wasn't even a thing back then. The term was barely in circulation. I tweeted, "Yes, I remember those group chat messages where Charlie said, 'I have no choice but to leave the pro woke cause.'" Totally. Totally. That's what it was about, guys. And I love that she says Andrew Kovette can confirm she's telling the truth. Like anyone will ever believe Andrew Kovette again after planting info here and there and watching how the world is trying to burn Candace on stake. How Andrew wanted to troll the trolls. No thanks. We won't take any future information from that person. This story was true. She would have mentioned it right at the beginning, nine months ago, 10 months ago. You think it wouldn't be the first tweet published by her? RIP Charlie who two weeks ago sought my advice on woke. 100% it would be but Laura did answer Candace when asked about the receipts right she goes when Charlie invited me to his office he called me he didn't text he called me conveniently Tyler Boyer and Andrew Kovette can confirm this nobody will seek this confirmation guys I'm telling you from now if he thought I was a nut job he wouldn't have flown me out and hosted me at his office. Well, you see, he would because he would do it with a lot of people that he disagreed with. He was reaching out to people like that. He wanted those conversations just for one reason that it makes for good content. You know, maybe one day she would score a spot on Charlie Kirk show. RC Maxwell was present in the building while I was there as well. He too can confirm.
Here is some text I had with Charlie though in June of 2025. It's just a fact he was worried about the world and Islam and the time of his unaliving. He was planning to do more to stop the spread of Islam in America. Then two weeks later he was unalived. Two weeks later you're saying it was in June. It happened in September. Not two weeks later. In June he was at the White House speaking to president. Okay. Trying to stop the war. What are you on? It's a fair question. Anyway, she attached to also the text allegedly Charlie on June 22nd, my birthday. WTF is the Hodge twins issue. Like actually semantics just like Candice. Hope you're done with them after this. Loads of anti-haters. Candace has gone off the deep end. I hope you see I've had Donald J. Trump's back there. All right. Well, yeah, if it was June, he still had Trump's back and she she's just delusional. I don't know. Notice how Charlie did not denounce Candace. And we knew he had Trump's back and was at the White House trying to stop the war. Like I said, this text proves nothing because according to our timeline, it was in June that Charlie's views started to radically change and shift. That was the moment. July was like an explosive moment. Okay. Text from June, that's Charlie before. And telling us that no, he didn't have any issues with little hats is a moot point. Even Dames from TP USA confirmed it that he was angry, growing angry. We saw it in his own own camera interviews with Megan Kelly on Charlie Kirk show when speaking to Ben Shapiro. Someone wrote it perfectly in the comments. All right. You probably like the insight to see how disgusting this interaction, if real, makes you. The evidence of the pressure campaign continues. Totalitarian behavior. Nothing the American people love more. Exactly. Always sneaky. Always scheming. It's disgusting. She admitted many times that she's in the president's ear, always trying to convince him how bad Tucker, Kelly, Candice, and others are. Always in everyone's ear spitting venom. And now she posted, she told on herself that she was trying to do that with Charlie. You know, I hope you see who Candace is. And he ignored it because if he didn't ignore it, that would be the first text she would post. Okay, the screenshot of a text.
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