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I'm not going to go to heaven then.
No, this is one of the most talked about interviews right now. If you haven't watched it, here's a short clip.
So, God is not better off or worse off if we love him or worship him or believe in him. He He really isn't. He has existed in a in love in relationship. And yet, the story of the Bible is that God chooses to create out of an outpouring of his love, knowing even that we are going to rebel against him. we are going to sin, right? Do wrong against how he has actually created us to be and still desires to have that relationship.
So, do you believe that there is a a hell and a heaven as we sort of typically understand it? A place that is great to go to after we die and a place that is very hot. I think it's more so that you will experience the full weight of the separation from God's goodness. Not necessarily a separation from God, cuz I think God's [music] punishment and his wrath are going to be felt there. But if we're talking about like a good place, bad place, in the very simplest of terms, yes, but heaven isn't full of good people. Heaven is full of people who understand they are not good enough. And so I mentioned that like justice mercy thing. Justice is fulfilled on Jesus. So because justice is fulfilled now mercy which is not getting what we do deserve is able to be given to those who put their trust in Jesus.
So if I don't believe in Jesus and I don't believe in the Bible but I live a good life. I'm nice to people charitable. try and be kind wherever I can be. Yeah. And I don't believe in God. Am I going to hell or heaven as it relates to the scriptures?
Well, I don't think if you're living your life rejecting God, God is not going to force you into his presence.
So, you I'm not going to go into heaven. I'm not going to go to heaven then.
No.
Where am I going to go?
Well, you would you would go hell.
So, so if I don't believe in the Bible, Jesus, and God, then I'm going to go to hell.
Yes. In so far as if heaven is a place for those who have submitted their lives to Jesus, who are living the identity of what they're created to be and said, "Your will be done, God."
Yeah.
Hell is a place where God says, "You rejected me. Your will be done. I'm going to I'm going to give you what you want in that. I'm going to remove my grace and mercy from you and you are going to experience truly what you desire in being separated from me and my goodness and my grace.