I Can't Believe No One Noticed This About Abortions!

Give a warm welcome to Seth Gruber. Awesome. Awesome. Let's dive in cuz I took up like 5 minutes doing all that. Did you say you didn't save the front row for the homeschoolers? You told me you were going to. No. I'm kidding.

I didn't tell you that. But um So the cutting edge, I believe, of the culture is what we decide to do with the unborn child. What does this culture do? We expect politics to go a certain way. We expect the culture to go a certain way. But we should be able to count on the church to go a certain way.

Yeah, amen. And you speak at hundreds, if not thousands, of churches. Seth, tell us what's going on. Where do you want to start this tonight with this most critical topic because God has given you a voice that if this nation's going to turn around, if this nation, if there's going to be a revival of people, it's going to be a revival of holiness, and that that revival is going to commence with us saving the unborn child. It's a, it's a travesty.

Yeah, amen. Speak to us. Yeah, it's so good. Well, it's thanks for coming out, guys. I always feel like I'm coming home at uh at Chino Hills and I want to thank you guys as well as the online viewers who have been a part of this little ministry, uh, the White Rose Resistance, that we launched right after the overturning of Roe v. Wade. We now have resistance chapters in um Northern California, Southern California, Boise, Idaho, Dallas-Fort Worth, Denver, Colorado, Florida, Maine, New York City, um, Flor- I think it's Florida. And we're launching more this year. Uh, because unless the church flatulent becomes the church militant, it will become the church irrelevant.

Yeah. Uh, and so we actually need to make the local church great again. Um, that's the only bullwark. Yeah. To evil, and that's the only thing that's going to save this republic. I mean, like, you know, I, I like I've lost donors sometimes when I'm going after Trump, you know, cuz he's got called himself the big daddy of IVF, you know, and like, which I was like, that was a really disturbing phrase, by the way. I was like, never say that again, Trump. Like, I don't, I don't know if you guys know this. He's like all about IVF. He's like, love IVF. Let's make it great again and cheap again. It's like, I don't know if you guys know, but like twice as many babies are killed through big fertility and third-party reproductive technologies every 12 months than are killed in the womb through legalized abortion in the same period of time.

Okay, wait, wait, wait. You're so fast. So translation, President Trump has had the opportunity since the day that he was sworn into office.

Mhm. To put an end to the abortion pill. He has mentioned that it's too hot of a topic. It's too hot of a topic. That pit- that pill that is available in the mail to anyone. About 70% of the nation's abortions right now. It's a horrible thing and no one's talking about it, but because Trump hasn't stopped it, abortions have gone up under Trump's administration.

Yeah. And you're not hearing that on any news channel.

That's why I'm so thankful for you, right? It's like, why didn't you wear your black robe? Right? Don't you want to see the black robe regiment, Jack Hibbs? I'm like, he won't even put it on for me. I'm like, I want to take a picture of Peter Mullenberg.

It's, it's good. It's good. I'll, I'll definitely give you a a Sunday with the robe this year of 2020.

Once Newsom comes out to be a woman, then you'll have a good like reason or Well, no, the when tyranny rises, that's why you wear it. I, I know. So where were we? We, so we were talking about um, the church. Um, and so when I've spoken out against Trump and and you know, the GOP and like they're becoming like pro-choice functionally. I don't know if you guys know this, but like they kind of gutted the GOP platform like a year and a half ago and they changed a bunch of the stuff.

This is it. And some of it was removing a lot of the really strong language about the sanctity of life and protection of life in the womb. And it's like, whoa, that's kind of crazy. You, like, here's the same party that was established to restore personhood to every human being. And it's now the political party that's trying to remove personhood from an entire class of human beings. It's like, well, you can't make that one up, right? And so when I've gone after him, like people have like, I've lost donors cuz I'm like, you're creating voter hesitancy, Seth. You need to shut up. We just need to get him elected. I'm like, well, yes, obviously, that's a duh. Like between like the mean tweeting orange man and Jezebel Harris, that was not a hard decision. I, I bubbled in the mean tweeting orange man. That was a very easy decision to make as a Christian. But like we have to raise our voices and like the GOP has to start fearing losing the evangelical vote again.

This is key. Actually. And if we're not willing to throw our political weight around, then they're just going to go, we can do whatever we want because we're always going to get the votes.

Yeah. Of those squishy little evangelicals who will always vote for us. And we have to express the kind of outrage of like, if you continue to do this, bad things are going to happen to you. And that's not a call for violence. It just means we're not going to vote for you. And so, but listen, we're not waiting for the GOP and the Republican Party to establish righteousness. The local church has to stop prostituting their dominion mandate to the GOP so that they can feel good about themselves. So all of this comes back to Genesis 1-3. It's, it's all like, go exercise dominion. Like we don't talk about the dominion mandate very much in the church. Like it actually commands you to be political. So you start, you get married and you start like having a bunch of like godly Christian sex and you start spitting out babies, right? Like spitting out dragon slayers. So out-outbreed the pagans and then raise little uh iconoclasts who are going to go tear down the high places. And then as you're doing that, the village becomes a town and the town becomes a city and uh-oh, now we need laws and a school of some type. Like assumed in the entire dominion mandate is that you're actually going to get involved in everything.

Right. Cuz it's all King Jesus's anyways and you get the opportunity to participate in extending his dominion and authority across the entire world. And that's why people were so heartbroken when they shot Charlie Kirk in the head. Yeah. Because he was living the Christian faith with a kind of courage that most evangelicals have never done in their entire life.

Um, yeah, you should clap. So what Seth is saying is so exactly right where in I made the announcement on Sunday being the first Sunday of the year that for those who are new to the church that uh, every two to four years we go through this cycle which is called an election cycle. And that this church over the last 35 years has been has been extremely uh active at educating and encouraging you, the congregation to know who to vote for and how to vote based on the biblical worldview. And some people have a hard time with that because they think that the Christian should stay out of uh participating in the political realm which I firmly believe is a lie from Satan and a lot of people have swallowed that lie. It's all based on us not recognizing the government in which God gave you uh access to by you being here. This is a constitutional republic which means we the people appoint the leaders. Right.

And the leaders are the ones today knowing that we're not going to do that. They're they're playing off of our I don't remember how you put it, but our apathy. They're banking on that. But if we, if we become educated, Thomas Jefferson said you cannot, you cannot enact uh a tyrannical rule when people are educated. Yeah. Jefferson said that. But it was John Jay, the first Supreme Court Justice of the United States Supreme Court who said it's best for us to elect Christians to office. Are you a Christian nationalist?

No, listen. I'm not, but in the way that CNN says it. I'm not in the way that CNN says it. But if you live in Germany right now, you should vote and speak up for what's best for first of all, God and the German nation. If you're Canadian, you should speak up for what's best for Canada. As an American, we should speak up for what's best for America. But see, we are the ones we have something to say. We are biblically based evangelical Christians meaning our kingdom is coming. Jesus is going to come. Okay? We, we understand Bible prophecy. But in the meantime, what are you going to do about shining a light and being salt? We are not to just wait around for the end. We are to let the truth be told.

Yeah. Yeah, honor God. And so, and I, I think Pastor Jack, that the command to be salt and light is just a recapitulation of the dominion mandate repeated on another linguistic plane by Christ. It's just a repetition of the dominion mandate. Illuminate.

To be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it. Uh-huh. Right? Well, in subdue, you're you're thinking like, okay, like what? You're like, you're like planting flowers? You're like putting your hands in the dirt and you're like subduing the earth? Well, yeah, it, it does mean to subdue the earth. It does mean to create things. But it also means to subdue evil. Subdue means to bring into subjugation. And you're like, oh, well, that sounds a little bit cooler. You know, I don't want to just like plant flowers and vegetables. Like I want to go like slay evil. You know, and I, like I want to buy another Braveheart sword for my man cave. You know?

So, so that's, like I actually want to like, like I want to put the pedophiles on death row. And I want to make abortion illegal. And like I want to overturn gay marriage. And I want children to have a right to a mother and a father.

Right. Like this is subduing the earth. And we've have that which is another way of saying be salt, preserve something.

Saying, people listen, for with what he's saying, this is this was exactly what not only the first century church was about, but you can go back before the New Testament era. Uh, for example, in, in the, in the Old Testament era, if you raped a woman, uh, the penalty on that was pretty intense, everybody. And now today, it's, it's what is it, what is a rape, this expression of your, what? It's, it's crazy. The elimination of a child's life, or you look at what Christian influence had on the first, second, third, and fourth, and onward uh centuries.

That's right. Where the life of a woman and the life of a child was elevated by Judeo-Christian worldview values. Yeah. But if we are silent, how can we say that we believe this and we don't say anything about it?

That's right. We say, "Oh, I'm a Christian." I think we better be careful in addressing ourselves as Christians. Yep. Because we can take ourselves, we can put a tag on, but do we actually do what the scripture mandates us to do? Second Corinthians, you mentioned this. And what popped in my mind was Second Corinthians chapter 10 verse six that says, "By our obedience in following Christ, we will punish all disobedience when our obedience is spoken of." Yep. That's one verse in the New Testament.

Yeah. It means to hold our elected officials accountable and to also look around at the culture for those who are doing evil. Mhm. Listen. Can don't answer me, but can you identify evil? If you can identify evil, then you're supposed to speak up against it.

And then you're a Christian nationalist. But isn't it funny like when you're living a bold courageous life and and you don't just stay quiet about evil like you actually go do something about it. You, you're called all sort of crazy things like one of my friends, AJ Hurley, he's on staff at White Rose. They were calling him a Christo-fascist. And I was like, "What the heck? What did I not do to not be called that?"

Yeah. I was like so jealous. I'm like, I've just been called like a like an autistic homeschool kid. I was like, "I want to be called a Christo-fascist." Yeah. But like no matter like as soon as you come into conflict with the spirit of the age and particularly these evils, right?

Yes. When it comes to children, when it comes to babies, and you open this whole evening up, Jack, by saying like, so what, what is it about like the, where's the church on life and on babies? Like, and and you said, I think if this could be the one issue that could cause God to bless America again, right? Okay. Where, where did all those ideas come from? Who gave us the idea of children's rights? Of the sanctity of life, of the innocence of children. Like, we, we are so detached from our heritage and the great legacy that it's been handed down to us by the forefathers, by the patristics, by the heroes of the faith that have gone before us that now when we see these evils in the West and in America, like so many Christians, I think we're just like, "Wow, that's unprecedented. Chopping off the genitals of kids because Sally is trapped inside Seth's body? That's, I never heard that before. What are you talking about?" They were doing drag queen story hour in the Palais Royale during the French Revolution. They were doing, they called them um, Augustine referred to them as galloi. They were homosexual priests who dressed in drag um in ancient Rome. And and then and then the drag moved from the Greek theater out into the public square. Like I could go on and on and on. Like there's literally no issue right now in the last five years that's caused Christians go, "I'm a little bit concerned about my country." There's not one of those issues that is new. Not a single one of those. And what drove out that evil was Christian nationalist and Christo-fascist. Okay, they're just Christians. The pro-life movement is Christianity, Christianity is the pro-life movement. And and the stories of the heroes of the faith are so inspiring. At the end of the evening, we're going to show you a trailer to a new film I'm almost done with that Pastor Jack is in. Uh, and that Dr. George Grant um, he was here for the 1916 Project screening. We sat together.

Yeah. He's the producer and screenwriter on the film with me, so it's kind of our baby, our film. And so we're going to show you a trailer later if, if you'd like to see it. Um, but like, yeah, the Psalm 88:12 says righteousness cannot be done in a land of forgetfulness. Have you ever heard that Psalm before? Righteousness cannot be done in a land of forgetfulness. We live in a culture and in the midst of a church that is rife with forgetfulness. Yep. We've forgotten who we are.

Yep. The killing of babies in the womb, the the abandoning of infants, like, have you heard of child exposure? Super hip in the ancient world.

That's right. Very normal. And totally legal. That's true. So it's like, you, you know, the babies get born and if the dad's like, "Oh, cleft lip." Or often, "I didn't want a girl." That's right. They go abandon them on trash piles.

This is, this is. Some people called them infanticide walls. Others called them high places. That's right. And I love this church cuz you're not like Andy Stanley. You're not a homosexual, so you actually read the Old Testament. But um, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't get mad, okay? That that guy has pivoted and now is marrying gay people, approves of gay marriage, the the son of Charles Stanley, and uses pronouns for gender confused minors in the Sunday school kids church at North Point Bible Church in Atlanta.

That's right. So that wasn't me just being crass. Like that's, I'm being very specific. Okay. So all of those evils, the early church was coming into conflict with. Every single one of them.

That's right. In ancient Rome, did you know ancient Roman law described the unborn baby as part of the mother's body? Huh. Never heard that one before. And it was fully legal to abandon infants.

That's right. The abandoning of infants got so bad in ancient Rome that Justin Martyr, the patristic, the early church father, who was given the last name martyr later because he was martyred.

Mhm. Uh, he was one of the boldest Christian voices in his era to speak out against child killing, abortion, and exposure. And he, he, he spoke out about it from a creation argument, meaning like these, these children bear the image of God, so you can't kill them. But he made an additional argument against exposure because for the babies who were left to die that Christians didn't rescue, cuz they were trying to trying to rescue as many babies as they could. Those children were picked up by strangers to begin a life of sexual slavery. Yeah. That's right. You can read Justin Martyr. This early church father. You know, I think it's like third century, fourth century. And he's saying, "What this is leading to is accidental incest." Mhm. Does anyone see it? Those fathers Mhm. or their sons who frequent brothels Yeah. often end up having sexual intercourse with their sister. Or their aunt. Or their brother. But they don't know it. These were infants that the family abandoned to die. And then a pimp Yeah. said, "Oh, look, a baby." And took them to a brothel to begin a life of sexual slavery. I want to tell you today, unbridled sexual liberation is leading to accidental incest once again.

That's right. I mean, by that? Thanks to big fertility, which is a multi-billion dollar industry, by the way, using in vitro fertilization, which takes the lives of more unborn babies, twice as many every 12 months as the abortion industry kills in the same time period. Children can be created without sex, which is relatively new, in the last 20 years or so, but that didn't used to be possible. If you don't know what in vitro fertilization is, right? It's just the female gametes and the male gametes and do conception in a Petri dish, and there's an eternal soul, an image bearer of God.

Yeah. And then attempt implantation, okay. So what's happening is sperm donors, but there's no such thing as sperm donor, by the way. Money always exchanges hands. Yeah, that's true. Want you to understand that. Don't use that phrase anymore. There's no such thing as a sperm donor. Just like there's no such thing as an egg donor. Men and women sell their gametes and make a lot of money, okay? So. So dudes who need to make a quick buck and they're going to college, I don't think I need to say explain that more. Yeah. This is leading to dozens and dozens and dozens, sometimes hundreds of human beings who all have the same father. And so I'm coming across stories like every other month now of a surrogate born child who accidentally was having a sexual relationship with their biological sibling. If you think he's making this up, you guys, there is a situation, I forget, if you know, shout it out, but in in one of the northern European countries, there was a single man, one man.

That's right. Who literally produced, I think, thousands of children in this in this Norwegian or It's bonkers. Yeah. The guy produced so many kids that the government found out that as these children were growing up, they were the probability of them in their city marrying someone who's related to them genetically was it was so high that they wound up, I think, arresting the guy or something. Yep. This is there's a documentary on this guy's life. It's absolutely. Happening across the West right now. What was my point? Unmoored, unbridled sexual liberation and the killing of babies as in Justin Martyr's day in the 3rd century is also today linked to accidental incest. Now, I know you're like, "This is the weirdest pro-life speaker I've ever Like, this is weird. Like, what I thought we were just talking about like saving little babies in the womb." Like, this guy's a like um but like what we need to understand is the church. And this is why why people actually love the White Rose Resistance is like, like Schaeffer said, "We, we don't deal in bits and pieces. We try to deal in totals." Um, that was that was Francis Schaeffer, How Should We Then Live, the '70s, right? Um, this is how he described kind of the evangelical church at the time. It's like, "We're failing to see how these things relate because we're dealing with them in silos rather than seeing that there's an underlying worldview." The Christian worldview. Uh, that helps you see how all of these parts go together. And that's what I found people love about our ministry, the White Rose Resistance, so much is very few organizations were able to do that. Um, that's what the 1916 Project did, which is streaming on DailyWire+ now, and churches are still screening it all across the country every week. And then the second film that's coming out soon. Uh, and so, we have to understand the ideologies behind all of this, and maybe we can jump into some of that. But like, to answer Pastor Chex's question from 25 minutes ago of like, "Why is this the thing? Like, why does this the issue that causes everyone to freak out? And like, where's the church on this? And and could this be the issue that if we were to turn things around, God would show America mercy?" You know, like my friend Joey loves to say this, this word that the Lord gave her years ago in Santa Barbara that if you stand with me for life, I'll give you every other issue. But, but why is that? And the answer is very, very important. Abortion is not just an isolated single stand-alone issue. It's connected to everything else. And this is so important. Maybe this will be the most important thing I say this evening. It's not a coincidence that the demonic left, and it's really a synonym, left demonic, demonic left, okay? Um, and there's leftists in the GOP, by the way. I'm not, I'm not like discriminating here. Um, the, the, the demonic left, for them, abortion is their blood sacrament. Okay. And uh, Jeanette Paris wrote a book, I think the year I was born in '91, called, guess what the title of the book was? The Sacrament of Abortion. She was one of those kooky feminists as opposed to the non-kooky feminists. No, I think they're all kooky, but she um, I think she was bald. But, but she, so she writes this book and in it she says abortion is, is a sacrifice to Artemis. It's a sacrament for the gift of life to remain pure. She says, "Our culture needs new laws as well as rituals to restore abortion to its sacred dimension, which is both terrible and necessary." Mhm. She wrote that in '91. And then, when real conservative Republican principled state legislators pass really good pro-life laws for the unborn, the Satanic Temple will file a lawsuit against that more pro-life red state arguing for religious liberty permissions to perform abortions. And guess what they say? Because abortion is one of our sacraments.

Yeah. And then there's, there's some abortion clinics that have named themselves Lilith, um, which in, it's a weird long story, but in Jewish folklore, she basically Lilith was just this demon and the second wife of Adam who who preys on pregnant women causing miscarriages. It's like, it's like, so, an abortion industry that clinics name themselves after a some folklore demon that causes miscarriages. IT'S LIKE, "TELL ME WHO YOU ARE WITHOUT TELLING ME WHO YOU ARE." OKAY. So, so like, you don't have to take my word for it that abortion is sort of the sacrament, right? Sort of this like demonic parody of the Eucharist. Like, that's how they describe it. Okay, so this is so important. In Christian communion, right? When, when, now, now we're not, we're not Catholics, right? We don't believe that it's, it's literally the body of Christ, but you know what I'm saying. This is the body, this is the blood. When we participate in Christian communion, we're not participating in a stand-alone isolated event. That act, communion, that sacrament is attached to everything else and connects to everything else in the worship service because it's the manifestation and embodiment of the faith. It's, it's verbally preached, and then it's physically taken. It's connected to the whole faith. You can't interact with communion without interacting with the entire Christian faith that stands behind it. Mhm. Who sees where I'm going? Yeah. Okay, good. Such a a woke congregation. Such an awake people. Um, when the left calls abortion their Eucharist and their sacrament, it too represents and embodies the entire faith behind it, the entire faith that drives it. It's the front door entrance to paganism is what I'm trying to tell you. So, why do people lose their ever-loving minds when you say we're taking away your legal right to kill babies? Right. Why do so many cowardly Christians who refuse to engage against demonic principalities like abortion refuse to do so? Because they know the kind of vitriol and gates of hell that will be released upon them if they step into the arena that says, "We have the right to orgasms without responsibility." And if we conceive children through our French Revolution laissez-faire free the libido liberation Yeah. and and a baby's created, then we will murder that baby. It's obviously very like easy for me to say like the pro-life issue is the most important issue. Everyone thinks that their issue that their organization fights on is the most important issue. But like I hope you understand we're not just talking about another political issue. This is not one issue among many. It is the demonic stronghold and the front door entrance to the gates of hell. And so, at Caesarea Philippi, Yes. Love it. When, when Jesus says, uh, you are Peter, and on this rock I'll build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. Uh, he's standing in an area that was basically the Sodom and Gomorrah of that time. Um, people believed that fertility gods visited that area in the winter. Um, child sacrifice happened Yep. In this area where Jesus is standing at Caesarea Philippi, and there was a pagan shrine to Pan. That's right. That, by the way, that's the origins of Peter Pan, just so you know. I'm not saying you can't show the film to your kids. I'm just saying that's where it comes from, okay? Like, and which is like, you know, the kind of person playing a flute and whispering children away from their parents' living room. Like, that's kind of the whole concept there. The Pied Piper is also related to Pan. And so, they, they, they, they believed that like Pan lived here, and they believed that the cave Yes. Right behind where Jesus is standing when he says, "On this rock I'll build my church," the locals believed that that was the entrance to the underworld. That's right. So, we're talking about the literal gates of hell where they kill babies and do weird orgy Democrat Party DNC sexual liberation French Revolution Palais Royale like weird stuff. And it's right there at the literal gates of hell. That's how his disciples would have heard this like, "Oh, the gates of hell. That, that, that cave right there, that goes into the underworld." It's literally there where he says, "And on this rock I'll build my church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it." Jesus was setting his disciples up for global assault on the minions of darkness, and we've forgotten that.

Yeah. Absolutely true. Think for a moment right now. Think for a moment right now. If Jesus were physically here right now and you could talk to him, and you would ask him, "What do you think about abortion?" What do you think Jesus would say about abortion? I mean, it's pretty cut-and-dried, right? Pretty crystal clear. And you struggle internally about, "Well, I mean, I know yes, of course, Jesus would not be pro-abortion like that, but you know, we live in the 21st century now, and and what?" What's changed? Here's the thing. You, if you've attended this church for any matter of years, you've heard me express to you that one of the great concerns that I have about my own personal private life that I've had it out with God, uh, and that is, Lord, how, how am I to be the most loving individual like you? You were the most loving individual that this earth has ever hosted, and you're the most hated, so much so that your name is a curse word. Jesus Christ is the most loving, and Jesus Christ is the most hated. And then he turns around and he says to us in John's gospel, "You're going to be just like me." He, don't take, but he tells us, "Don't worry about it because they, they hated me first before they hate you." And so, a long time ago, the Lord showed me that in my life, my goal is to be the most loving that I can possibly be. And by following him, by loving him, I don't have to worry about the hatred part. You, you should never go around and try to get people to hate you. All you have to do is go around loving Jesus. And the world will automatically hate you because it's not, it's not so much you, it's the Jesus coming out of you that they hate. And if in my life, this is just me, this is just me. I, I believe the Lord laid that on my heart strongly that Jack, if you do not surrender your love to me, you'll never be hated properly. No, I mean, it's not funny. I mean, it's, we're supposed to be hated. Jesus said, beware when all speak well of you. We live in a world right now that that's what people are living for. How many likes do I have? How many subscribers do I have? That's pretty sick. Jesus said, you love me, you'll follow me. Yeah. The world's going to hate you. And so that's my goal in life is to get as close to him as I possibly can. Yeah. And the hate part will come because people, they'll see right through me. They'll, they'll, I'm nothing but a, but a piece of piece of cloud. They see, I hope they see Jesus in the issues of Jesus that make them hate. And so when you take a stand and you resist, Seth is not, and I'm not saying just, you know, go into Costco and turn the tables over. That's ridiculous. If you get arrested, you should. No, we're talking about doing the right thing. Evil will find you. Yeah. If you do the right thing. Yeah. The thing is, do you not know your Bible enough to know that that's okay? Yeah. That that's that's actually a great thing. To follow him in loving obedience that you don't care anymore what the world has to say about you cuz it's fleeting. Yeah. It's dying. But this thing about pagan sacrifice, the aborted child, you guys, this, this is not new like Seth was saying. This goes back to Babylonian era. This goes back since the beginning of time. Yeah. Reading very recently a book on the Caribbean on the Caribs. I don't know, it's not bedtime reading, but you know that the, you do, you know what the Caribbean stands for? You know what it means? Oh, let's go to the Caribbean. The word Caribbean means let's go to the man-eaters. The Caribs ate people. That's why the Caribbean is called the Caribbean. It was the sea of man-eaters. And one of the things that they did, Glenn Beck, we were with him, and he sh, he bought this tool in for his museum where they could extract, they would push it through the mother's stomach while she's living and extract the baby out through the front end of the mother and they would eat her child in front of her. In the Caribbean, folks, listen, that kind of sick demonic stuff that to me is the ultimate manifestation of doctrines of demons. Yeah. And evil spirits. There's a book that I commend to all of you, Return of the Gods. Read the book Return of the Gods by Jonathan Cahn. He will talk about the demons of abortion. Yeah. In that book. Yeah, it's wild. And what, and what we've forgotten is that the fact that everyone just went, "Oh, yeah," is the fact that you live in Christendom, whether you want to or not, and whether you know it or not. Christianity furnished the concept of children's rights and the sanctity of life of the individual and the equality of the sexes and of the ages. In ancient Rome, every time that neo-paganism rises, you know what the first, the first people who get endangered are? The first victims of when when paganism's on the rise, women and children. Always. The younger and the weaker. But historically, one of the first fruits of revival has been a concern for and protection. That's right. Of women and children. Historical fact. Abraham Kuyper. Yes. Who was the Prime Minister of the Netherlands. Yes. Wonderful theologian.

When I was young, I used to remember a quote of his. There is not one square inch in the whole domain of human existence over which Christ, who is sovereign over all, does not say, "Mine." Right, yeah. So, so when he becomes Prime Minister.

That's how a young mind works right there, folks. When he becomes the Prime Minister of the Netherlands, basically like he, like, you think they call Jack Christian nationalist? Like, like imagine if like Jack became the governor of California. Think what kind of like new, new titles. Yeah, that would be great, but I'm not, he's never told me that ever. There's, I, I have no knowledge. This got really weird. I was just using an example. But imagine the kind of titles they would come up for with for Pastor Jack if he was like governor. Okay, so that, that's how much they hated Abraham Kuyper. But what's one of the first things he does as Prime Minister of the Netherlands in the 1800s? Pushes all of the prostitution way out of society. Passes laws against it. Begins to protect women and children. He creates red light districts, but it pushes it all out of the main area and a ton of people are protected and saved. And this kicks off sort of revival of people coming to saving knowledge of Jesus because of the bold stand of the church in the public square. And so when Christians actually take their revival in my heart, Jesus is my boyfriend from this like personal relationship with just your Americano and your Psalms at 6:00 a.m. And you, that's wonderful, by the way, but like when you, when you take that and then you say, maybe I should take my faith out into the public square.

Amen. Every time the church has been serious about that, women and children begin to be protected from the forces of darkness. And then, then we begin to remember who we are. And, and theologically, this is why I think this is really beautiful, if I may. Have you guys heard of the logos? John 1, the logos became. Of course, yeah. Flesh and made his dwelling amongst us. So the word became flesh, right? But in the Greek, it's the logos again. So that's not coincidental. Of course not. In ancient. Oh, what a shocker, right? The Bible is spiritual. So in ancient Rome, the concept that ancient Romans valued above all else was logos. It means, it means rationality. So like, what separates us from the animals? We have a rational nature. Right, there's a reason why um, it's okay to eat a hamburger, but it's not okay to eat a Harold burger. Right, so like, the animals, that's fine, right? And PETA's ridiculous, but PETA's such a joke. Like, if they actually, it's like a genocide of cows, like why aren't they picketing outside of In-N-Out, like, which I hope it's still open after we're done tonight. But so like, we understand there's a difference because one is an animal and doesn't have the logos. Right. They don't have a rational nature. It doesn't mean like, it's, it's like, you know, you should go out and just like kill animals for fun, like unless you're hunting, and then that's really fun. But like, if you just like, if you just like enjoy.

Though according to the Bible, probably something wrong with you. But like, it's the human being as an image bearer, right? This gets into the imago dei, which we could spend, you know, 20 minutes on if you wanted. Who has the logos? That's right. The rational nature, who can make sense of his freedom, who has language. And even if the child doesn't have that in the womb or as an infant, it's in their nature to have it. A dog is not less a dog if they have a disorder in which they cannot bark. Mhm. Because it's fundamental to the nature of dog to bark. Even if he can't do it in the here and now. It is fundamental to the nature of imago dei's of human beings to have the logos. Okay. So when John 1 says the logos became flesh, like this, this was scandalous in that era. The least valued thing in Roman society were children, slaves, and babies. They were not considered to have logos. And that's why it was fully legal to abandon infants.

So convenient. To sexualize children, to rape them, to make them work in brothels. And men, by the way, husbands could beat the living pulp out of their wives. And that was fully legal. So, so Seth, because they didn't have logos. So when the scripture says the divine logic of the universe itself, in Christianity, logos is not a concept, it's a person. Love it. The logos itself, capital L, takes on the form of the least valued thing in Roman society, a fetus. Which, by the way, is Latin for offspring or small child. So the next time gay Uncle Bob is over at Super Bowl Sunday and THEY'RE LIKE, "I'M PRO-CHOICE. THAT'S A PART OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS." You can say, "You're right, it is a fetus. Good technical use of the Latin. It is an offspring and it is a small child." So your savior takes the form of the least valued thing in Roman society. This furnishes the concept of children's rights for the next 2,000 years. Why do Christians begin to care for the young, the unborn children, babies, the defenseless, the voiceless, and the innocent? Because any one of those could be Christ because our savior took that same form. And so that means every other form has the same value and dignity and deserves protection. So Christianity invents the pro-life movement. Christianity invents the children's rights movement. Christianity invents the anti-sex trafficking movement. All of this is the fruit of Christendom. But as Oz Guinness says, we're living in a cut flower civilization. What does that mean? You know, you're on a walk with your kid and they, they pull the rose out of the person's garden when you're on a walk, you're like, "DON'T DO THAT." AND THEN you're like, "Oh, well, we'll take it home, put it in the vase, you know, look at it." But then the petals start falling and the flower begins to die because it's a cut flower. It's been removed from the soil. America and Western civilization is a cut flower civilization. It's been removed from the soil of the Christian faith that built it.

Absolutely. And you can enjoy it for a while. The, the vase, the rose. But day by day, another petal falls. And like Beauty and the Beast, when the last one goes.

Yeah. The curse is sealed. Right. There's no going back. It's too late. Right. Are we living in a last stand moment? Absolutely. It's January 7th. Mhm. It's the beginning of America's 250th year. It is great. I'm like, "Yeah, America." I'm going to wear a ton of red, white, and blue in July, like, you know, it's wonderful. Going to have tons of Martinelli's. It's going to be awesome. Um, but 250 years is the average lifespan of a civilization.

Just going to say that. At its longest. Like we're already kind of on borrowed time. Um, and why? Because we're a cut flower civilization. The role of the church is not to admire the vase. It's to plant the flower back into the soil of Christendom that made it great. And so J.D. Unwin writes this book in 1934. Um, what is that? 91 years ago, 92 years ago. And um, it's called Sex and Culture. And it's like this fat. I have the book. It's like insane. And what he does is he studies 86 civilizations over 5,000 years. And shocker of shockers, he finds a 100% correlation between sexual freedom, FREE THE LIBIDO, WOODSTOCK, AND THE DEATH OF A CIVILIZATION. I bet you couldn't have predicted that one. And he also finds a 100% correlation between sexual monogamous marriage-based heterosexual family-based cultures and cultural advancement. Now again, for the Christian, you know, we're like, you know, so this why it's important to read your Bible. You're like, "Yeah, I think when you do that kind of stuff, you know, like, uh, the high places and the weird orgies and then, then the baby killing, like, don't those civilizations and societies just get taken over by pagan hordes?" That's why it's important to read your Bible. So this doesn't shock you guys. But he writes this book as a sociologist in 1934. No liberal weirdo academic kook, learned ignoramus that I'm aware of, has been able to debunk his findings. Because it's a total indictment on liberalism and the rotten fruit and promises of liberalism, which is best defined as um, if it feels good, do it and don't have any consequences of the feel-good activity. That's kind of liberalism in a nutshell. Uh, and he says, "No, when you live like that, your society dies."

It's a fact. But here's what he says, "Once a society embraces total sexual freedom, Yeah. and doesn't do anything to legislatively reel back in the sexual insanity freedom, that society collapses to the lowest level of civilization." He calls it a dead level of conception. He calls it inert. And some of the evidence of that is when the arts, the art starts to suck. Like it's like, "Here's a urinal I put on a wall and I, and I duct taped a banana to the urinal. Do you want to buy it for a million dollars?" No, no, someone actually bought that, Jack.

Look, listen, you Seth's uh graphics is funny and you see this picture he's painting with the words. What you may not realize is this book that he's referring to. The, the guy that wrote the book did not make this, did not make the conclusion up. It is a historical fact from the beginning of time. You can look at it. There are, and I forget the sequences, but four or five sequences. And vaguely, I'll put it this way. There's, there's the, there's the beginning and there's, there's uh humility and there's hard work and there's growth and there's development and then there's the rewards of the development and hard work, which is prosperity, prosperity leading to leisure, leisure, uh, always leads to apathy, apathy leads to dependence, dependence, destruction. It's a cycle. Companies do it, corporations do it. Tragically, they don't have to, but churches do it. Um, that all that said, this is not what, what I'm about to say. Seth said it. I'll say it a different way. This is not what I'm about to say is not a political statement, it's not a religious statement, it's a factual statement. It is the history, the story of man. The last manifestation of a culture before it is either completely destroyed by internal disease or captured by a stronger nation is sexual immorality, predominantly homosexuality, lesbianism, transgenderism.

Bending. It is the last. Any culture.

It's the final gasp. It's the canary in the coal mine of a dying civilization.

So what we're saying, what I'm saying, what when you celebrate what Paul warned about in Romans 1, when the culture celebrates it, that culture, that's its death notice. That culture will not recover. Yep. America celebrates so much so, I think we are beyond the pale where medical physicians, really educated individuals. Okay, let's give, let's give them the benefit of the doubt. If they've got a medical degree, we can probably safely assume they're not stupid. How can they cut a child's genitals off? Honestly, stop for a moment. Think this through. They're smarter than you. And they, what they, what they, they graduate to that level of intelligence that it makes sense to them to cut off a 13-year-old's breast in America. What do you think the God of heaven is going to do with this? What do you think is going on? The answer, but look, you know me. Get educated, register to vote, go do the right thing. But listen. Unless the church repents and gets back to God, forget.

Don't ask, don't ask Gavin Newsom to repent. That is absolutely insane. Gavin Newsom needs to meet Jesus. What about those who've already met Jesus and are not obeying Jesus? You can't expect Gavin Newsom to obey Jesus. That's insane. That's unfair to lay that on him. But what about the Christian that does know Jesus? America, California will not recover. Yep. It is impossible for this nation to recover until it repents of its sins. And that's not Donald Trump repenting. Yep. This is not Congress repenting. Yep. It's the Christian church repenting that God will spare the nation. If the nation is destroyed, it will be because of the church. Yep.

And and this is profound, Pastor Jack, because we don't contend for righteousness politically because we're just so afraid of losing our sacred rights. I just really don't want them to take my AR-15s. You know, it's like I'm like, "Well, I get it." Like I'm always saving up for another one, you know, what I mean? But but like like like in order to preserve your rights, you know, to like flourish and be comfortable in the West, if that's your reason for contending for righteousness as a Christian, shame on you. Not good. You should care about promoting righteousness and restraining wickedness because when Christians don't, your neighbors' bodies, lives, and freedoms are decimated. And it always harms the young first. And I don't know, when I read my Bible, I feel like the Lord's most colorful language is when they're endangering the young. And we could give plenty of examples. But he says things like, "It never entered my mind that you would do this." But obviously God's omniscient, so he doesn't actually mean that. He's saying, "What? Passing children through the fire?" And then someone in '06, "You've sacrificed your sons and daughters to demons. The land is desecrated with blood." And so I give you over to be ruled by those who hate them. Justice and mercy. There's the verse in Micah. Somebody help me out. It says there, "Shall I give my firstborn child for the sin of my soul? Should I sacrifice the fruit of my womb for the sins of my soul?" Yep.

So this brings I have to say this and then you keep going. Maybe maybe not. But you've heard, "Don't you believe in a woman's right to choose?" Don't I believe in the freedom of choice? Absolutely. Absolutely. You know what? I have the freedom to go lick that wall socket over there. But don't laugh. Do I have the freedom? I have the freedom to do it. Is it a smart thing to do? The reason why it's not a smart thing to do is because the result of that decision is going to hurt really bad. I had the freedom to make my choice and then I experience the ramifications of the choice I make. I believe in a woman's right to choose. She makes the choice and she becomes pregnant. Are you hearing me? Mhm. See, well, that's unfair because the guy gets off. Nobody gets off. In the end, nobody gets off. But here's the deal. The argument, "Don't I believe in a woman's right to choose?" You cannot use that argument after the pregnancy or conception has taken place. You're bringing that up, you're bringing the argument too late. There. Are you? Do you hear what I'm saying? We all have the right to choose. We just have to also, with the right to choose, accept the responsibility.

>> Yeah, so abortion's not healthcare because pregnancy is not a disease and babies aren't tumors. And Obama said, "I would never curse my children with with a to have them carry a baby." Yep. Mhm. So, listen, let's let's with the time that we have remaining, this I want to go after uh or have the young people, the new converts this way. There's there's young kids here, college campus. You're What you're saying, you're a unicorn with what you're saying on their campus. We What this guy's He's not even in touch with reality. Abortion is a type of birth control, for crying out loud. What's the big problem here? Um speak to the value. I love this argument. I'm going to remember it in a second that you give about how something is not valuable because it's bigger or older or stronger. Value of that thing is not based upon its size. Please give that argument nice and slow. No, no, I don't mean that in an insulting way. I want it to sink into your logic. Sink into your logic because this is a brilliant argument that Seth makes about things that are tiny are not cheap or discarded because they're tiny.

>> Yeah, but in paganism they are. And so So, as soon as the young, the smaller, the weaker begin to be targeted and abused again, that's one of your first signs that you're going back to neo-paganism. You're opening the door to demons, and that can only happen with a flatulent, castrated church who's traded her birthright for a bowl of porridge and reads too many Brian Brodersen, Rick Warren, and Andy Stanley books. Um and so, we've forgotten who we are. And so, the very fact that Pastor Jack has to ask me that question of like, you know, like talk about why we should protect these. It's like, well, if I If we have to explain that, and if you young people have to go explain that to your friends, that itself is a sign that we're in deep do-do in the West. The fact that it's now hip and normal and cool to say "shout your abortion" or to Women's March to wear genitalia hats, which is what they do at the It's actually an organization called the Women's March. It's not just like an event. They actually host these all around the country. Like, that's one of your first signs you're going back to neo-paganism. Okay? And so, the answer is quite simple, though. Human beings don't have value or rights because of their size or their intellectual capacity or their IQ or how developed they are or their location that they're in. You have value because you're a human being, full stop. You bear the image of God. And, you know, we all have something quite unique and quite beautiful. Jack, it's called born privilege. Congratulation, if you're in the room, your mother didn't slaughter you in the name of radical feminism. Although, if you know Pastor Jack's story, um which Pastor Jack has shared openly, so it's not like I'm saying anything, but you know, his mother tried to kill him in utero. And God spared his life. Um and so, even Pastor Jack is here because, thankfully, his mother failed to kill him. So, if you're here and you're in the room, you have born privilege, which means it's very easy for us, if if we don't have spiritual eyes and we're not engaged in these fights, to be like, "Yeah, abortion's wrong, but that's not really my lane. That's not my calling. That's not my issue." First, let me just say this. If God's put a burden on your heart for another justice issue, praise God. Like, we have some warriors in the room tonight who rescue women and children from trafficking and sex slavery. And honestly, sometimes I'm like, "Can we just go vigilanteism Batman on the pedophiles?" Like, like I'll go get my six-pack back and like I'll go help you, you know. Um like like it's it's like I almost want to go fight that battle with them. Um but but my my lane is the unborn child, but it's related to everything else. So, I'm not telling you like you need to abandon a burden or calling God's put on your heart if it's different than the life issue. What I am calling the church to understand is that the longer we tolerate the sacrament of Satan, the sooner we'll come to find that that same ideology is knocking on the front door of the righteous. Because if you don't get the right to life right, you won't get any other rights right, right? Those who murder the unborn cannot be trusted to govern the born. And those who murder the unborn will one day murder you, too.

Are we in touch with the kind of psyche that we're dealing with? Do you understand the psyche and the state of mind of a of a Democrat or a pro-choice Republican or a leftist who who equates freedom itself, the right to dissect and vivisect the bodies of little children? Do you understand that state of mind? They equate that with freedom. When Roe v. Wade got overturned, they started interrupting church services. Do you remember this? They were interrupting church services. And they were chanting, dressed in the Handmaid's Tale outfit. This is that stupid book by what's-her-face. It's like It's like women are oppressed. It's like, "Oh, yeah, you're you're so oppressed in the 21st century. Like, you Oh, you live in Oklahoma in 2021. You can only murder a baby through 14 weeks. You're so oppressed." And so, they were wearing these Handmaid's Tale outfits. They were walking into churches and they were saying um they were chanting, "Without this basic right, women can't be free. Abortion on demand and without apology." So, the whole argument is that we aren't free unless we can pay someone or we can order pills online to our mailbox to murder our children. Only then shall we be free. Like, church, try to get your head in the that kind of psyche for a second, okay? And now ask yourself the question, will they respect your liberty and rights? If you think the answer is yes, you're an idiot, and you have no idea how dangerous ideas are.

There's this fun story about Thomas Carlyle, the Scottish man of letters and essayist, who was one time at a dinner and he was constantly talking about ideas. The kind of person I like. I just like love talking about ideas. My wife told me like, "Don't get too ideological with Gino Hills because you're a weirdo, babe. Like, try to make it like application and beauty. Like, don't go all But um Thomas Carlyle was one of those people. And this is a famous story, and and someone was like, "Mr. Carlyle, ideas, ideas, nothing but ideas." Um and Thomas Carlyle responded, "There was once a man named Rousseau who wrote a book filled with nothing but ideas. The second edition was bound in the skins of those who laughed at the first." Wow. So, I don't know if you know what I just said, but Jean-Jacques Rousseau. Uh uh I once saw a meme on social media that said, "If uh I had two bullets in a room with Adolf Hitler, Bin Laden, and Rousseau, I'd shoot Rousseau twice." Um so, most of us are made in the image of Rousseau, whether we know it or not. Many Christians are made in the image of Rousseau, whether they know it or not. Um think Think of it like this way. Um "I'm oppressed because of civilization and society. It's society that made me do it." That's Rousseau in a nutshell. And so, the way to get back to Eden and freedom, where you'll own nothing and be happy, which is almost literally something Rousseau wrote, uh the way to do that is to throw off all standards, all morality, and all the shackles of society and get back to the noble savage. Um and this this was how he saw liberation and freedom. Does that sound like That's to me, that sounds like liberalism today.

>> Was the savage ever noble? Right. And he Rousseau said that the savage was a an amoral person, meaning neutral, because he didn't know what right or wrong was. And so, oppression and evil happened when people started saying some things are good and some things are bad, some things are evil and some things are beautiful. And Rousseau said that the Really, the origin story So, his original sin was not Eve taking the bite. His original sin was when a a noble savage, after having a Woodstock evening with another female noble savage, decided to build a hut and take her into that hut and start a family. And that's the origin story of evil. So, that's Rousseau's vision. Um so, the family is the origin of evil because in man's state of nature, we owned nothing and were happy. And this sets the stage for Marx and Lenin. Because if ownership is the root of all evil, then the state stealing everything is how you bring back freedom. What's my point? Notice how the families always right there in the bull's-eye. It's always

>> It's the family that's the origin of evil. Designed by God. >> To We have to redesign and remake the family. You see all this? It's always the family. Did you know that that Adam um my father, I guess, because Seth. But um It's all right. It took you a second. Um Did you know that in Genesis um I bet you know this, Pastor Jack, cuz he's just like, you know, um crazy smart. But like, did you guys know Adam is not referred to as a man until him and Eve come together? Before that, he he was once called a male prior to Adam and Eve. And then but prior to that, he's just called Adam. He The Bible doesn't call Adam a man until ooh la la hubba hubba hubba. And then right? And then spit out dragon slayers, right? So, if you want to lay siege to the foundations of Western civilization, if you want to reverse-engineer the West, you target the family and you corrupt the bond, the sacred bond, of man and woman. Absolutely. The family is always the centerpiece of the entire secular moral revolution because it's the smallest political unit. And when you govern yourself and then you live virtuous and then you have a bunch of Christian sex and then you raise little dragon slayers who fear God and him only, you become very very dangerous because Christianity causes us under good pastoral leadership, right? Not not like, you know, Andy rainbow Stanley or, you know, Rick Warren. Oh, let me say something, by the way. Um Um there's a reason why Rick Warren was invited to Davos every year by Klaus Schwab and Pastor Jack Hibbs is not. Thank God I've never been invited there. Think about that.

>> Think about that because the former is a hireling and the latter can't be bought. I forgot where I was going with that, though.

>> That's okay. I want to add this. There's no realm, there's nowhere that you are to withdraw from as a believer. That said, I was informed just hours ago that a particular individual is going to be running for office um in our county. Uh very, very, very liberal, very anti-family. Interesting, though she has a family, she's anti-family. Think about Think that through for a moment. Uh and absolutely uh pro-abortion. You say, "Well, you shouldn't talk about politics." If you were to talk If you were to approach, you name them. If you were to approach somebody like Nancy Pelosi or or Newsom or even many Republicans, but certainly almost or all Democrats. There's a reason why in the Democrat Party there's no mention or reference to God. Did you know that? In the Democrat Party. If you're a Democrat, you are of the party that will not mention God in its platform.

>> mocked him at the DNC 15 years ago. Listen to this. Know this, everyone has a religion. Don't be fooled. If somebody says, "Listen, I'm running for public office and these are my these are my views. These are my values and when I get elected, I'm going to impose my values upon the culture." Right. But you You're You're what? You're a Christian? Shut up. Stay You can say anything you want within the four walls of your church. But don't you dare send your people outside the walls of the church to make a difference because that's my church. My church is the culture that's out there and politics is my pulpit.

>> Yeah, amen.

>> where I preach from and I don't appreciate competition. So, you Christians just zip it. Right. Do you hear what I'm saying, everybody? Why do I say it that way? Because the things that they hold to, they're actually religious values

>> Yeah.

>> of a atheistic or demonic

>> Yeah.

>> doctrine. Well, and let's and let's get into that with oh, 19 minutes. We could talk about so much, Jack. Um Like so, let's get into this, right? Like oh, oh well, um no that's not I I don't I'm not a political. I'm just a Christian and I don't And and uh and so paganism is neutral, you know. It's fine if they enforce their ideology through politics. Somehow that's not religious. But if a Christian does it, it suddenly becomes religious tyranny. They're trying to rebuild a theocracy. Church, you live under a theocracy right now. It's called the theocracy of secular humanism that dogmatically enforces its religion into the public square. Yeah. Okay, so the question is not whether there will be a dominant worldview religion that dictates the terms of engagement. The question is whose religion and who whose worldview. And obviously Chino Hills gets this, but for the online viewers, hopefully this is helpful. Okay, there's an ancient heresy called Gnosticism or Gnostic dualism. I want to make this contention I want to make this argument in like just a short amount of time that this is the dominant animating feature of the entire secular moral revolution and its various iterations that always target the family first from trans to baby killing to gay marriage to big big fertility, which we've touched on, in vitro fertilization, big fertility, third-party reproductive um to oh oh to euthanasia and doctor-assisted suicide. Um all of these issues are animated by an ancient heresy that the Apostle Paul preaches against a couple times in the New Testament um that divides a lot of the early church. And so, here's what it is and then here's how it's applied and then you tell me if you think that's just a super neutral thing and super pagan and paganism is neutral or you tell me IF THAT SOUNDS SUPER RELIGIOUS, JUST A REALLY kooky woohoo religious, you know, imposition of a worldview. You tell me, okay? So, Gnosticism, Gnostic dualism very very shortly. Uh I don't know that Plato talked about this but probably the father of dualism is René Descartes. Um if you've heard of Cartesian dualism, that refers to René Descartes. So, basically here's how to describe it, okay? You are not um you're not a body soul. Um you're not a body. You're a soul that wears a body like a flesh suit. So, this is this is not Pastor Jack Hibbs because because people are not bodies. People are not flesh. They're metaphysical spiritual.

>> Yes. Yeah.

>> Which can't be touched. So, your consciousness, your desires, your self-awareness, these things we can't see or touch. Okay. So, I I announced on social media a couple years ago. I had a lot of a lot of fun. Um I like trolling people. I think it's super biblical when you do it in in the right lane. And um And so, um I I I announced on social media that I was actually Sally. And I was so excited for my pro-choice friends and trolls to now WELCOME AND RESPECT MY POSITION ON ABORTION as Sally, as a woman with a uterus. Hear me roar. And so, I started telling people that I was Sally. As As one who too has a uterus. And I was able to liberate the true identity from the bondage of biology cuz the Gnostic dualists and heretics of the early church taught me that real people are not bodies. They're just who they feel that they are on the inside right here somewhere right here. And so, bodies are not people. They're not you. They're just a vehicle that you animate and drive kind of like a man drives a car. So, if your body's like a car, why not take it to the body shop and give it a makeover to make the outside feel like the inward identity? Oh wait, now we're at the front door of transgenderism. And so, I want to share something with you guys if I can. I shared this at at Gary Hamrick's and at Allen Jackson's, but I've never shared it here. And I'll So, just like I just want to speak my truth and I want you to be empathetic and gracious with me. You've heard it rumored. I'm here to confirm everything you've heard. I am trans-vaccinated. Trans- What'd you say?

>> I'm trans-vaccinated, Jack.

>> And if I'm being honest with you tonight and speaking my truth, I always knew that I had been born in a vaccinated body. And and the trans-vaxophobia that I've experienced from cultural elites who said, "YOU CAN'T BE VACCINATED. YOU DIDN'T GET THE FAUCI OUCHIE." has sometimes made me want to commit suicide because they're not affirming my true identity as a vaccinated person. And it's true, I never got the Fauci ouchie. But But following the Gnostics, I discovered the way to liberate the real person from the bondage of biology. And so, I learned how to imprint and impress my vaccinated self onto the blob of my fleshy, irrelevant, not attached to the real person pound of flesh. And so, just as I changed my pronouns on my driver's license to she/her, I changed my vaccine status on my vaccine passport to vaxed/ve. And I'd like you to refer to me by my vaccine pronouns. Okay. So, obviously that's like really, you know, and like stupid. Um And by the way, I thought it was funny when like people started using the word again about liberals after Trump got elected. Cuz I thought that was an interesting lesson about how sometimes culture is downstream of politics. That political changes sometimes change the culture. By the way, like don't call people That's evil and immoral. Um but call your friends. And like liberals who kill babies say that's a thing to do, you know. I I thought that was funny. And then SNL Saturday Night Live did a special mocking gay couples as baby thieves like 3 weeks after Trump got elected. Why am I saying all this? Because you've been told us the church only do Well, not by Jack, but you know, by only do Jesus and him crucified and stay out of the political stuff cuz it compromises your gospel witness and if it's associated with a MAGA hat, then no one will listen to the presentation of the gospel and so you don't want to trade your birthright for a bowl of porridge. So, just focus on the message of Jesus, but never associate it with anything that could be called political. That's what we've been told by about the last 100 years by our evangelical elites at the Gospel Coalition and Christianity yesterday. Um Christianity today. Um and so we were told only do culture like hearts hearts and minds only do culture and then the politics will change. But it's also a two-way street. Yes, it's true. Politics is downstream of culture, but sometimes culture is downstream of politics. What does that mean? It means that in the state passing laws that declare righteousness and protecting the young, it shapes the moral conscience of the people. Aristotle said statecraft is soulcraft. Meaning actually by lawmaking you're forming souls and you're forming moral compasses. It's discipling the people into what is right and good and true and what is evil, wicked, and debased. So, here's a question for you. Do you think SNL SNL Saturday Night Live. Like they were funny like 15 years ago. Do you think they would have done a So, they was the two heterosexual couples and then and then two gay guys and um and they have a baby. And so this is the SNL and the two heterosexual couples go, "Where did you get the baby?" Right? Because you know, um you know, well, yeah. So, um They had to get the baby somewhere, right? And so um the gay couples go, um "Well, the baby chose us." And No, this was Saturday Night Live like 4 weeks after Trump got sworn in. And and then they're like, "Well, you were with us at a party last night and you didn't have a baby. And now you have a baby and you're gay, so did you steal the baby?" Yeah, Saturday Night Live. Wow.

>> And the the gay couples go, "We like to think she stole us." Really?

>> And and then they're like, "But did you steal the infant?" Okay. SNL just mocked gay couples as baby thieves. Would SNL have done that skit if Kamala Harris was president? I'm sure.

>> See, you know you know the answers now. So, what does that teach you? Yes, politics is downstream of culture, but culture's also downstream of politics. We should be contending for righteousness in both silos in both spheres because they both affect one another. And nowhere is that more clear than the abortion debate. Than the abortion issue, which is also Gnosticism by the way, right? Cuz if trans is chop things up because the real me is not a body, right? So, you'll chop things up and it's cuz it's not me. This is not This is not Seth. Seth is somewhere in here. And so you chop things up cuz the body's not you. That's also the abortion worldview, which says the baby in the womb is not a person. And and the pro-lifer goes, "Why are they not a person?" And the lefty goes, "Well, because they're not self-aware. They're not conscious." Have you heard these arguments? They're not conscious. They don't know that they're a baby. They're not self-aware. Okay, are those physical things? No, those are metaphysical things, spiritual things. You self-awareness and consciousness, can you touch it? No. So, their argument is until the baby develops enough to have consciousness and self-awareness, then there's no person there yet. So, when you abort a baby, you don't kill a person, you just dissect a pound of human flesh because there is no person there yet. That's Gnosticism. Yes. So, when pastors say, "I don't preach on politics," your answer should be or question should be, "Then can you preach against false religion?"

>> That's right.

>> And heresy that masquerades as politics to keep the politically impotent pastor silent? All human conflict is ultimately theological. So, for the pastor who says, "I don't do politics," what they're really saying is, "I'm okay with ancient pagan heretical nonsense to dictate the terms of engagement and impose itself onto the public, which will firstly harm women and children because I just want you to attend my church and tithe to me." Nickels and noses. It's the idol of mammon. It's no different than Lot in Sodom and Gomorrah who's the like, you know, the Christian influencer of his day, basically. And he's standing at the city gates and the angels come there and he takes the angels to his home and then and then he go and then they and then the people of the town, they all come. They all come to Lot's house. Now, remember Lot is called a righteous man. He's like the only righteous one in, you know, San Francisco. I mean, Sodom. And and and they say, "Hey Lot, bring those men out so we can have sex with them." But you know they weren't men, they were angels. Like whoa, you you understand why God wanted to torch Sodom now? Like the It says from men from all parts of the city came to Lot's house and says, "We want to rape angels on the sidewalk outside of your front porch, righteous Lot." And Lot walks out onto his front porch and remember he's a Christian influencer of his day. He was positioned at the city gates. He was invited to all the right parties, okay? Like he was he was on that private jet with Rick Warren going to Davos to visit Klaus Schwab, right? He Like he had the blue verified checkmark on Twitter way before Elon Musk bought X, okay? Like that's Lot. And he walks out on his front porch and he What's the first thing he says? He says, um dear brothers or my dear friends. Now, I'm just going to speak for myself. Um I generally don't refer to people who want to rape angels as my brothers and my sisters. It's a personal conviction I've developed. Um Um Um brothers AND SISTERS, THEY'RE NOT YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, LOT. SO, here's a guy who the the culture and the spirit of the age of Sodom has so crept into the heart of the righteous that he can no longer differentiate anymore between who are his brothers and who are his sisters and who aren't. And then he says, "Do not do this wicked thing." And so like so many Christian leaders today, they're sometimes willing to critique evil just enough to show they're not a coward, but not enough to make a difference. Hey, you want to you want to rape angels? Hey, brothers and sisters, don't do that. Now, how can I prove to you that Lot would only speak as much truth as the spirit of the age allowed him to? Because the very next phrase is, "I have two daughters in the living room. Let me bring them to you instead. Rape them on the sidewalk in front of my house instead of the angels."

>> Yeah.

>> When the demonic spirit came to the front door of the righteous, which I told you 40 minutes ago would happen if the church tolerates abortion. That if you tolerate the sacrament of Satan cuz it's not your lane, you'll eventually find that that ideology will come knocking on the front door of the righteous and then your children and your rights and liberties and your grandchildren, then their lives will be in danger because you tolerated evil and you gave it free reign. And they And And THEN LOT, THE RIGHTEOUS MAN, HANDS OVER the next generation on a silver platter Mhm. to the Caligula Nero pornographic demonic culture and says, "Here's my children. Have your way with them." Yeah. We're in the process right now in the American church of handing over the next generation

>> Yeah.

>> to the demonically inspired mob and saying, "Have your way with them." Lot was saved, but he wasn't salty. So, his wife became in death what he should have been in life. Yeah. A pillar of salt. Yeah. What's salt supposed to do? We talked about it an hour ago. Preserve, conserve. Here's a the testing point of every man and father is to protect his own. And when that spirit came to target his children, he goes, "Here you go."

>> Mhm.

>> But Lot is called a righteous man. So, I think he's going to be in glory. But what's going to be his testimony at the marriage supper of the lamb? Yikes.

>> Right? When we go around the table? Yeah. Yikes.

>> And Pastor Jack starts to I just got a text of like some 94-year-old who gave her life to Jesus watching Jack and I last time on here and started watching and got saved before she died. Like we go So, we go around we share these testimonies, right? And Amy Carmichael starts sharing and Eric Liddell starts sharing and Charlie Kirk starts sharing and Hans and Sophie Scholl start sharing and Oskar Schindler starts sharing and Dietrich Bonhoeffer starts sharing and Saint Basil of Caesarea and Athanasius who helped write the Nicene Creed who took his congregation outside of ancient Rome and started tearing down the infanticide walls where infants were abandoned. And when his hands got all bloody, he said, "This blood for their blood." You probably don't even know the name Athanasius. He helped write the Nicene Creed and he took his whole church congregation outside to literally literally tear down high places. And everyone starts going around telling their stories. And then we get to Lot. And he goes, "I gave I gave my daughters to be uh uh anally raped And God forgave me. By grace and grace alone.

>> Yeah, grace alone.

>> Okay. Okay. That's a testimony. Yeah. I don't want that to be your testimony at the marriage supper of the lamb.

>> Mhm.

>> And this is why the White Rose Resistance exists. We exist to remind the church who she is. That our great heritage and our great legacy is Christian resistance against evil that seeks to demolish

>> Mhm.

>> and abolish the image of God from the earth. Because Satan can't create. Theologically, he's not a creator. Yeah. So, all he can do is pervert, Yeah. invert, mock, and destroy that which has already been created. By the way, to me that sounds like modern leftism today. Oh, yeah. Mhm. So, we have resistance chapters all around the country. Stephen Pierson, stand up. He runs our SoCal Resistance chapter in Southern California. And he attends this church. And on Saturday, 4 days ago, we had 200 Christians worshipping and praying that God would bring down the Pomona Planned Parenthood. And he leads all of the SoCal Resistance activity. But we have those chapters all throughout the country, and we're launching more this year. Here's my belief in America's 250th year. As we begin to celebrate America and and we wear wife beaters that are red, white, and blue. And some of us will look better, and some of us won't, but we're all going to be celebrating America, America, in July. I think that the message to the church in the 250th year should actually be this. If the foundations be destroyed,

>> right.

>> What shall the righteous >> the righteous do?

>> That's right.

>> J.D. Unwin's predictions have never proved false. He says once a generation a society accepts total sexual freedom, they have three generations before they're done. And he defines a generation by 33 years. I contend that America embraced total sexual freedom in 1973. Absolutely.

>> Not only with the killing of babies in Roe, but with the Endangered Species Act that gave more legal protections to porpoises and sea turtles than human babies.

>> So, wherever there is animal worship, there will be human sacrifice. G.K. Chesterton, that literally proved true in the same year, 1973. And the Supreme Court removed its ban on obscenities and porn, allowing the legal widespread distribution of porn. So, in 1973, three things happened. Child sacrifice on demand, funded by the taxpayer. Animal worship. And insane sexual pornographic filth, all in the same year. So, 1973 leads to 2003, 2003 leads to 2033. We're quickly approaching the third and final chapter. I try not to approach history from such a mechanical sort of timeline perspective, but that seems to bear out. We're on borrowed time until the church wakes up. So, if you're okay with it, I'd like to play you the trailer of our film, The Last Stand, which comes out on June 6th in Denver. If you'd like to come, you can go to the laststand.com and buy tickets. Um Rob McCoy, Frank Turek, um Alisa Childers, Steve Deace, myself, and a lot more. Os Guinness, Dr. George Grant. He's on vacation, and I said, "Okay, Jack." Um and so, it's in Denver um on June 6th, and at the end of the day we're going to premiere this film. But Chino Hills, my family, the church that kind of helped launch this ministry, would you like to see our trailer for our next film? Okay. Uh go ahead. For centuries, the church shaped the West. Then came the Enlightenment, and with it a wave of destruction. But they didn't just reject God, they set fire to anything that reminded them of him. The bloodiest century in history was not an accident. It was a choice. And today, in the 21st century, we are making similar choices that could lead to something equally deadly. The question is, will we be faithful, and will we stand now? We're telling the stories that American Christians have forgotten about the heroes of the faith and the church fathers who stood against a culture of death. If Western civilization is to survive, this is a fight we must win. This is our battlefield. This is our last stand. Nice. Beautiful. Beautiful.

I want to encourage all of you to to know and understand the most important thing of all is the fact that if you tonight are here or you're watching and you have been one that is subject of an abortion, maybe somebody made you, maybe you decided to do that. And you regret that, and you feel like there's the scarlet letter on you. I want you to know that there is no sin, and abortion is a sin. There's no sin that you can commit that's greater than Jesus's ability to forgive. Amen. And the the load Lisa and I have met women who have had five, seven, nine abortions over the course of their lives. And it wasn't until Jesus set them free from that weight every day. He died on the cross for all of us. But only those who take advantage of his sacrifice benefit from that. He paid the price for all of mankind's sins. Can you imagine that? But it doesn't mean everybody goes to heaven. But it does mean all those who put their trust in what he did at the cross, they go to heaven. Amen.

>> Because they recognize that my sin put him on the cross.

>> You see, that's why a man, a good man, could not have died on the cross. Cuz even a good man could not have been put on the cross for my sin. But God relegated himself in atonement to go to that cross and to be suspended between heaven and hell for me, for you, because he's your creator. He not only created you, he redeemed you. He bought you back. Amen. And God wants to forgive you tonight. Maybe you're a man and you forced your wife or your girlfriend to get an abortion. You're equally guilty, my friend. Yep. You need to cry out to Jesus. Amen. The only way that you'll miss heaven is by you deciding that you don't want to be there. God wants you there. Amen. You see, Jack, if if I'm in heaven, it won't be heaven because I'm too horrible of a person. Jesus has got you covered on this one as well.

>> Amen.

>> He said to the person who is forgiven much, that's the person who loves much.

>> Amen.

>> Isn't that amazing? The God of your creation said that about you being forgiven.

>> Amen.

>> Christ died on the cross and rose again from the grave. There's an empty tomb in Jerusalem. Drives people nuts. There's nothing there. And Pastor Jack, as we land the plane, right?

>> Yes.

>> Cuz we need to get

>> Landing.

>> Um although I'll try to sneak out there and give side hugs, three pats for the Trinity. But um um it's actually the the healed post-abortive mothers and fathers who become the most powerful voice against the demonic principalities of child killing, who can stand at the gates of hell and redirect traffic.

>> Yeah.

>> Because once you know that you've been forgiven of murder, and you can warn men and women, "Don't do what I did," because you're walking in freedom and the authority of Jesus, the healed post-abortive mothers and fathers of America become a secret backdoor entrance to ending abortion.

>> That's right.

>> Because millions of voices saying, "Don't do what I did. Look to the God of life," becomes a very powerful testimony.

>> And so, we actually need the people who are feeling trauma, post-abortion shame. Jack and Seth just called it demonic principalities of weird sex cult idols, and you're like, "That's what I did." Run to the cross. Repent, and now join us on the field of battle. And so, I would like to ask you to join the resistance. We do need your help. We're still finishing getting this film done, which we will premiere on June 6th in Denver at The Last Stand. And so, it we I'm not afraid to ask for your help. Pastor Jack has been so kind to let you guys participate and invite. If you scan this QR code or text White Rose to 50155 and you join as an ally. For online viewers, that's $35 a month. If you join as an ally, we ship you a battle box in the mail to turn you into a pro-life ninja. And then you get a free ticket to the last stand in Denver on June 6th, totally free. And then there's air support, which is $70 a month. And then you join our book club. So for online viewers, $70 a month is a fun book club. We call it Books in the Barracks. And so my my wife called me like like a borderline autistic last night. And she but she said people like reading books with me or talking about ideas. And I didn't know if she was complimenting me or insulting me. But I I think we have a fun time in our book club and we read books that help us understand our culture better. So you get that. And then anyone who's here, if you join at $35 a month or more, you get a free shirt in the foyer. And then you get a free ticket to the last stand and a side hug from me. But really you got to meet my wife. She's much more beautiful. So if you want to help the film, which I think this film is going to awaken the local church in America in a way that we have not seen yet. And that's the solution to everything. Make the local church great again. So if you want to get involved, that's how you can do it. And thank you Pastor Jack.

>> Thank you. Let's all stand. Amen. Let's pray everybody together. Heavenly Father, we ask of you Lord God that um It's always convenient. It's amazing. As we were talking about a moment ago, Gnosticism. All of this It's always convenient that the gods or the god of those who make up idols, those idols are always approving of that person's desired lifestyle. Whatever that person wants they carve a god or gods out to approve of their conduct and of their lifestyle. And then there's the living God. There's you. The author of life. Honest, direct, raw to tell us we've all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. We need to repent and come back home to the God who made us. And Lord, I pray that tonight people would make that decision right now wherever they're at. That they would say, "Jesus, I need a new life. I want to start over. I have done wrong. May not even may not be abortion, but it may be lust or it may be thievery or it may be something that you're being convicted of and God is saying, "This is wrong and I want you to deal with it because I died for that on the cross." You go to him. Speak with him. Even for you tonight that you may be an atheist. We know something about you that you don't know that we know this. We know that you're not sure about your atheism. You're a big doubter. And you should be. Ask our God to reveal himself to you. And Father, we pray that the White Rose Resistance would be so turbo-charged and super-charged that it would be indicative. It would be a harbinger announcing the coming of revival to America. Yes. We need to wake up out of our political stupor. We're in a political stupor. We think Trump got elected so we can go to sleep. And a lot of people went to bed, so to speak, sleeping because they're they're somehow resting and trusting in a man or in a a party. And that's idolatry. We need to repent. And so Lord God, have mercy on this nation, on these 250 years since this nation was conceived. We ask you to visit us one final time with mercy, grace, and your forgiveness by sending revival to the church so that the lost may be awakened. We pray in Jesus' name and all God's people said, "Amen." God bless you all. Thank you for coming.