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Le plus grand malentendu est de savoir ce qu’est un organe ? Chaque dent est un organe. Si nous pouvons croire cela, alors si elle est morte, pourquoi la gardons-nous ? Il y a des médecins qui ont dit : « Je n’ai jamais eu de patient atteint d’un cancer qui n’avait pas de carie dentaire grave. » Le plus important, c’est que les patients souffrent de problèmes chroniques. Lorsque je vois la radiographie, je n’ai même pas besoin des antécédents médicaux, car je peux simplement regarder chaque dent et savoir ce qui se passe. Les patients arrivent malades et ces patients veulent aller mieux, mais ils ne reçoivent pas les bons soins. L’infection chronique provoque une fatigue immunitaire, l’épuisement progressif lent du système immunitaire. Une des choses que j’ai remarquées chez chaque patient qui suit ce traitement, en enlevant ce qui ne devrait pas y être, leurs yeux s’illuminent. Le brouillard cérébral disparaît, la psychose disparaît. C’est fou. Qu’est-ce que mon public a encore besoin de savoir sur la dentisterie biologique ou quel symptôme pourrait-il avoir en ce moment et qu’il ne peut pas identifier ? Un des plus gros problèmes, c’est que je suis la 30e personne qu’ils voient. Ils sont allés partout. Ils ont dépensé beaucoup d’argent pour leurs soins de santé. Et la chose principale en dentisterie biologique, c’est l’humain ultime.
Salut les gars, bienvenue de retour sur le podcast Ultimate Human. Je suis votre hôte, le biologiste humain Gary Brea, où nous allons sur la voie de tout ce qui est anti-âge, biohacking, longévité, et tout ce qui se trouve entre les deux. Et je suis très heureux d’accueillir de nouveau un très bon ami à moi qui est devenu un ami personnel proche de ma famille, de mes enfants. Il a fait tellement pour ma famille et moi. Il m’a donné des dents, ma femme, ma fille, mon médecin, à peu près tout le monde dans ma vie a eu une dent de ce dentiste. Il est l’un des meilleurs dentistes biologiques au monde. Il m’a tellement appris sur l’importance de la cavité buccale. Si vous n’avez pas vu le premier podcast que j’ai fait avec le Dr Jagar Gandhi, vous devez absolument regarder ce podcast. La dentisterie biologique est en train de faire son apparition dans le grand public. Nous venons de lancer notre court métrage sur la santé bucco-dentaire et les soins bucco-dentaires et la dentisterie biologique. Et cela a tellement tendance que j’ai dit qu’il fallait ramener le Dr Gandhi pour répondre à certaines de vos questions et faire une plongée profonde dans la dentisterie biologique. Donc, Dr Gandhi, bienvenue de retour sur le podcast Ultimate Human.
Merci de m’avoir.
La dernière fois, on a tourné ça dans votre salon.
Oui, on l’a fait parce que j’étais en fait là-haut pour me faire opérer.
Je pense que quand on a fait le dernier, cette dent que vous aviez enlevée et le pivot, vous avez mis ce pivot et cette dent est sortie. Donc, vous avez mis ce pivot. Donc, on doit encore vous obtenir une dent.
Il me faut encore une dent là-bas.
Ça arrive bientôt.
Je ne diffuserai pas le podcast avant d’avoir la dent. Ce sera comme un petit quid pro quo. Je suis comme, du commerce équitable. Vous voulez que je publie le podcast ? J’ai besoin d’une dent.
Mais il a fait ça pour ma femme. Il l’a fait pour ma fille. Il l’a fait pour le Dr Sardo, qui est notre directeur de clinique depuis des années. Et vous savez ce qui est fou, c’est que dès ce premier moment où vous et moi, je veux dire, vous et moi avions une amitié de longue date avant que vous ne fassiez quoi que ce soit sur moi. Et, vous savez, nous étions clients l’un de l’autre. Nous nous sommes rencontrés par le biais du système de santé 10X. Et je me souviens du jour où je me suis fêlé une dent et je vous ai appelé et vous avez identifié tous les problèmes que j’avais liés à cette dent, que je n’avais jamais reliés à cette dent. J’avais des douleurs à l’épaule antérieure gauche. J’avais une douleur dans le lobe inférieur gauche de mon poumon, que je pensais être simplement des crampes de coureur, vous savez, à cause de l’exercice. Et puis j’avais cette chose étrange où de temps en temps mon orteil gauche, de toutes choses, me démangeait ou devenait engourdi. Et parfois, je tapais du pied par terre et Sage se moquait de moi parce que j’enlevais ma chaussure et je me grattais simplement le gros orteil et je remettais ma chaussure. Et je n’ai jamais lié ce 19e méridien dentaire au symptômes que j’avais. Et 48 heures après que vous ayez enlevé cette dent, les symptômes ont disparu. Et je pense que ce qui m’a le plus frappé, c’est d’avoir été éveillé au biohacking ou quoi que vous vouliez appeler ça. Je fais la lumière rouge. Je fais le sauna. Vous savez, je mange des aliments complets. Je me concentre sur le sommeil. Je vais au sauna. Vous savez, j’essaie vraiment de faire de mon mieux avec les outils qui me sont donnés. Et j’étais complètement ignorant de la dentisterie biologique, même si nous étions amis, et de l’impact qu’elle pouvait avoir sur la santé des gens. Et maintenant, peut-être parce que j’ai commencé à vraiment creuser, je reçois des choses dans mon flux tout le temps. Et les affirmations vont de : « cela n’a aucun impact du tout », « laisser des tissus morts dans le corps ne vous fait pas de mal » à : « il y a des médecins qui ont dit : « Je n’ai jamais eu de patient qui soit entré avec une forme de cancer qui n’avait pas de canal radiculaire ou qui n’avait pas de carie dentaire grave. » Et quand vous commencez à regarder les cartes des nerfs et de l’approvisionnement sanguin et de la proximité du cerveau et du drainage vers le cœur, cela commence vraiment à avoir du sens. Que lorsque ces signaux traversent le corps et passent par la cavité buccale et remontent par la cavité buccale et que la carie et les parasites et les bactéries et les virus qui sont ici, dans votre bouche, sont des portes d’entrée faciles dans le corps.
Oui.
Parce que le plus grand malentendu est de savoir ce qu’est un organe, n’est-ce pas ? Quand on y réfléchit, le dictionnaire médical de Dorland définira un organe comme quelque chose qui a un nerf, qui est un nerf trijumeau qui innerve les dents. Ensuite, vous avez l’apport sanguin.
Mhm.
Ensuite, vous avez également le drainage lymphatique que nous négligeons beaucoup en médecine moderne, comme le drainage lymphatique. Oh, c’est juste de la lymphe. Non, la lymphe est la voie où tout va commencer à se propager. Et puis la fonction de mastication, n’est-ce pas ? Vous mâchez avec les dents. Donc, chaque dent est un organe. Si nous pouvons croire cela et suivre cela, alors si elle est morte, pourquoi la gardons-nous ? Ou si elle est infectée, pourquoi la gardons-nous ? Est-ce correct ? Eh bien, si vous voulez quelque chose de mort dans votre bouche, alors gardez-le, n’est-ce pas ? C’est au patient de décider. Mais l’éducation est primordiale. Et c’est ce que je vois le plus maintenant. Les patients arrivent. Ils s’auto-éduquent, ce que nous voulons, n’est-ce pas ? Vous savez, ce que vous faites très bien, c’est que vous éduquez les gens, puis ils en apprennent de plus en plus.
Oui.
Donc, ils vont chez les médecins et comprennent : « Non, c’est le problème. C’est ce qui me cause ou me retient. »
Oui. Oui. Vous savez, depuis mon parcours avec vous, je vous ai référé certaines des personnes les plus célèbres et les plus influentes au monde. Je ne mentionnerai pas leurs noms. Ils peuvent ou non rendre leur histoire publique, mais je n’ai encore rien entendu d’autre que des histoires étonnantes de, vous savez, nous avons un ami commun d’Atlanta.
Oui.
Qui est récemment venu vous voir. Et, je ne dirai pas son nom, mais son analyse de sang a indiqué qu’il avait une maladie auto-immune.
Correct. Oui.
Et donc je vous ai appelé et je vous ai dit : « Je vais faire cette présentation parce que lors de ma discussion avec lui, j’ai dit : « Avez-vous déjà eu un canal radiculaire ? » Et il a dit : « J’en ai eu quatre. » J’avais des dents de sagesse. Oui, quatre. Vous savez, avez-vous d’autres travaux dentaires ? Et il a juste parlé de ponts et de capuchons et de canaux radiculaires, donc sa bouche était un champ de mines. Je le savais. Et je l’ai référé à vous et même s’il avait beaucoup de douleur et qu’il récupérait très bien, je lui ai parlé 48 heures après votre intervention. Je pense qu’il était peut-être encore à New York à l’époque et il n’avait pas assez de bonnes choses à dire sur vous, mec. Je veux dire, il ne faisait que raver. Pour lui, c’était le soulagement immédiat de sa douleur au bas du dos. C’est la chose numéro un qu’il m’a dite.
Oui. Elle a disparu.
Oui. Il a dit : Et il a dit, je ne vais pas imiter sa voix parce que vous saurez qui c’est. J’ai presque fait. Mon impression de qui il est, mais il m’a appelé et il a dit : Gary, je ne te fais pas marcher sur la tête. Ce n’est pas un placebo. Ma douleur au dos a disparu et je l’ai depuis des années. Elle a disparu. Et cela fait maintenant des mois et je lui ai parlé il y a quatre jours et il a dit qu’elle n’était pas revenue.
Oui.
Et donc rien d’autre n’a changé sauf qu’il a subi cette intervention. Donc, si quelqu’un est nouveau dans la dentisterie biologique, si quelqu’un est nouveau dans le concept des canaux radiculaires et des cavitations, qui sont ces poches d’infection dans la mâchoire que tous les dentistes ne sont pas formés à voir.
Correct.
Vous avez besoin d’un type spécial de radiographie appelé un cône beam.
Oui. Radiographie.
Si quelqu’un est nouveau dans ce domaine et se demande s’il devrait envisager de s’y pencher pour traiter les symptômes qu’il a, quel est le genre de myriade, quel est le monde dans lequel ces symptômes vivent s’il y a tellement de problèmes dans leur, juste avoir un cône beam est une chose et cela dépend de qui regarde la radiographie, n’est-ce pas ? Parce que la dentisterie biologique et la dentisterie holistique sont maintenant utilisées comme si c’était des agents immobiliers ou des traders de jour, comme si tout le monde le faisait, n’est-ce pas ? Ou tout le monde en immobilier. Et c’est le problème auquel nous sommes confrontés parce que je vois beaucoup de références ou de seconds avis de patients qui ont consulté des dentistes biologiques. Donc, cela dépend de la formation et nous travaillons là-dessus. Vous avez fait un podcast avec mon pote le Dr Dom.
Oh, j’adore ça. Oui, il est génial. Et nous travaillons. Il est comme le parrain, n’est-ce pas ? Il est vraiment et nous travaillons à faire passer le mot, comme un dentiste biologique bien formé, pas seulement avec un dentiste biologique parce que maintenant vous devez mettre ce mot juste parce que c’est le plus gros problème auquel nous sommes confrontés maintenant. Tout le monde veut faire de la publicité pour la dentisterie biologique, n’est-ce pas ? Donc, le plus important, c’est que les patients souffrent de problèmes chroniques, n’est-ce pas ? Et ce que nous recherchons, c’est que je suis dentiste. Je ne suis pas médecin. Donc, laissez la profession médicale hors de ça. Mais lorsque je vois la radiographie, je n’ai même pas besoin des antécédents médicaux, car je peux simplement regarder chaque dent et savoir ce qui se passe. En regardant le tableau des méridiens comme outil de référence. Et les patients arrivent malades. Et ces patients veulent aller mieux, mais ils ne reçoivent pas les bons soins, n’est-ce pas ? Donc, la chose la plus importante que nous recherchons, c’est s’il y a des métaux dans la bouche, que ce soit du titane, des amalgames au mercure, des couronnes au mercure, des couronnes métalliques, des dents qui ont été extraites et qui n’étaient pas propres. Comme notre ami qui est venu nous rendre visite. Il avait des dents qui avaient été extraites, mais elles étaient infectées dans l’os de la mâchoire.
Waouh.
Mais on lui a dit que tout et ils ont cousu ça et parce qu’il n’y a pas de dent et peut-être même le nerf est mort et l’apport sanguin a été réduit ou même éliminé. C’est ce qui est important que les gens comprennent. Il n’y a pas de douleur associée à cela.
Correct. C’est chronique.
Oui. Et ce n’est pas comme si vous étiez bouché et que vous éternuiez et que votre poitrine était congestionnée et que vous aviez mal à la mâchoire ou que vous aviez beaucoup de flim ou de mucus ou de choses comme ça. Les choses normales qui vous pousseraient à demander de l’attention.
Oui.
Ceux-ci ne sont pas là. Et je pense que souvent, parce que ces symptômes ne sont pas là, nous pensons que rien ne va pas parce que nous associons une infection à la douleur, aux rougeurs, à l’engourdissement, à l’enflure, vous savez, à un certain type de dysfonctionnement. Mais, quels sont les symptômes les plus courants ? Et je sais qu’il y a une myriade infinie de symptômes, mais je dirais que si vous regroupez vos patients en grandes catégories, quels sont la plupart des symptômes qui les amènent chez vous ? Ont-ils une maladie auto-immune ? Ont-ils des problèmes cardiaques ? Ont-ils des douleurs quelque part le long du tableau des méridiens ?
Oui. Donc, l’auto-immunité est importante. Et les problèmes cardiaques. Et l’inflammation chronique. Donc, et il est difficile de déterminer d’où cela vient, comme une élévation des globules rouges, une élévation de l’interleukine 1 et 6, une élévation des VSH. Donc, ils arrivent avec une gamme de maladies.
Oui. Donc, ces taux de sédimentation des érythrocytes et ces interleukines sont ce dont il parle, sont différentes cytokines, différents composés inflammatoires qui sont sécrétés par les globules blancs et dans le corps en réponse à une infection ou à la présence d’un parasite, d’un virus ou d’un autre agent pathogène. Je voulais juste qu’ils sachent ça. Donc, les marqueurs inflammatoires généraux seraient des choses comme la protéine C réactive ou l’homocystéine, vous savez, d’autres choses. Donc, vous dites qu’ils auront ces marqueurs inflammatoires dans leur analyse de sang, correct ?
Peut-être qu’ils ont été, ils ont été diagnostiqués avec une maladie auto-immune de nulle part.
Oui. Aucun antécédent familial. Aucun déclencheur réel qu’ils peuvent identifier. Et vous savez, l’infection chronique provoque une fatigue immunitaire. Et nous savons maintenant que l’une des grandes théories émergentes en matière de vieillissement et de longévité est tout ce concept de fatigue immunitaire. Comme le dépassement progressif lent du système immunitaire. C’est comme mettre un kilo dans votre sac à dos chaque jour jusqu’à ce qu’enfin vous ayez tellement de kilos dans le dos que vous ne pouvez plus, n’est-ce pas ? Et c’est l’effondrement essentiel du système immunitaire, puis boum, le feu commence. Et cela fait sans aucun doute partie de cette séquence de facteurs de stress.
Oui. Que le système immunitaire doit gérer et qui finit par le faire céder. Je veux dire, quand vous regardez le syndrome de fatigue chronique, c’est énorme, n’est-ce pas ?
Mhm. Regardez ce qui s’est passé avec votre femme. Elle avait les cavitations, mais elle ne savait pas pourquoi elle se réveillait toujours tard et maintenant elle se lève tôt. Soudainement, qu’est-ce qui a changé pour elle ? Elle suivait les mêmes protocoles que vous lui aviez prescrits, mais un travail dentaire. Vous avez ruiné ma série Good Morning Babe parce que c’était la série la plus populaire sur Instagram et vous avez tout gâché parce que, comme, comme je me réveille le matin comme en feu et elle dormait et ça me laissait aller faire une séance d’entraînement, une respiration et du soleil, puis je rentrais dans la chambre en trombe et je la réveillais et j’avais tellement de joie à faire ça. Mais et c’est ce qui se passe lorsque la dent est enlevée, comme vous l’avez dit, le tissu se referme. Donc, lorsque vous regardez à l’intérieur de la bouche, le tissu est magnifique. C’est joliment rose. Mais qu’y a-t-il en dessous ? Et lorsque le ligament est laissé derrière, ce que nous appelons le ligament parodontal, cela cause une racine de tous les maux. Cela devient simplement un marais d’agents pathogènes. Et il peut s’agir de tout type d’agents pathogènes. Il ne doit pas nécessairement s’agir uniquement de bactéries, car en tant que dentiste, nous sommes formés aux bactéries. Combattre les bactéries. Qu’en est-il des champignons ? Qu’en est-il des parasites ? Qu’en est-il des virus ? J’ai vu les spirochètes dans mon sang parce que l’une des choses que nous avons faites, et si vous n’avez pas vu notre premier podcast, vous devriez vraiment le revoir. Et à peu près à cette époque, j’ai fait un post sur Instagram. Si vous faites défiler vers le bas, il est probablement toujours là. Où nous l’avons pris et nous y sommes retournés et nous l’avons mis sur une lame et l’avons regardé au microscope dans votre bureau. Ce qui m’a étonné, c’est que nous avons éclaté ce petit sac et nous l’avons en quelque sorte étalé sur une lame. C’est tellement dégoûtant. Et, et, et regardé et vous pouviez voir les petits spirochètes corrects. Et excusez-moi, vous pouviez voir mes globules blancs, mes macrophages en quelque sorte les poursuivre comme de petits Pac-Man, ce que j’étais quand j’ai regardé cette activité et que je l’ai vu de mes propres yeux et que nous l’avons pris au fond de la dent que vous avez enlevée. J’étais non seulement convaincu, mais j’étais déterminé à faire passer votre message et c’est pourquoi j’ai également interviewé Dom et j’essaie vraiment de faire passer le mot de la dentisterie biologique parce que je pense que la douleur et la symptomatologie sont ce qui pousse les gens à demander de l’attention. Et malheureusement, cela a des symptômes, mais ce ne sont pas les symptômes que vous liez à la cavité buccale. Ce sont des symptômes d’autres types de maladies chroniques, auto-immunes, cardiovasculaires, vous savez, psychiatriques, mais vous ne les liez pas à la cavité buccale parce que vous n’avez aucun symptôme ici.
Correct. Et c’est là où, eh bien, tout d’abord, merci d’avoir fait passer le message. Je veux dire, vous avez fait toute une différence avec les dentistes biologiques. Je veux dire, j’ai des dentistes du monde entier avec qui je suis amis.
Vraiment ?
Et en faisant ce podcast, cela a aidé à faire passer le mot. Et nous n’avons pas peur d’en parler parce qu’avant, le message était : « Hé, n’en parlez pas. Faites-le simplement. » Et nous nous connaissons depuis un moment, malheureusement, parce que c’est hors des sentiers battus.
Correct. Et il est si difficile de faire passer ce message. Mais maintenant, c’est comme : « OK, eh bien la science nous soutient. » Il n’y a rien d’étrange que nous faisons, c’est que nous suivons simplement la science. Et si quelqu’un a ces problèmes, comme vous en avez parlé, les problèmes psychiques. Eh bien, si vous avez des agents pathogènes sur votre nerf trijumeau, ils vont se connecter au nerf vague vers le bas près de votre cou, puis remonter vers votre cerveau. Donc, maintenant, vous êtes en sympathique et parasympathique. Votre corps ne peut pas décider. Donc, bien sûr, vous allez avoir de la psychose. Vous allez avoir tous ces problèmes. Donc, si nous pouvons obtenir toutes les professions médicales, hé, comme traiter le patient, mais apporter un panoramique, apporter une radiographie, juste une visualisation, une visualisation 2D de ce que vous avez.
Mh. Et juste la simplicité, vous n’allez pas diagnostiquer. Je veux dire, jetez simplement un coup d’œil. Oh, eh bien, vous avez eu des travaux dentaires ici. Trouvez le bon dentiste et voyez si cela peut être corrélé. Et nous travaillons en équipe, car c’est la seule façon de faire passer ce message pour obtenir une santé optimale pour les patients. Si vous voulez des protéines pour développer des muscles maigres, mais sans l’impact calorique ou le besoin de couper, vous avez besoin d’amino parfait. Ce sont des acides aminés essentiels purs, les éléments constitutifs des protéines, sous une forme et un ratio précis qui permettent une utilisation presque à 100 % dans le développement des muscles maigres et aucun impact calorique. Ainsi, nous construisons des protéines six fois plus que le lactosérum, mais sans l’excès de graisse corporelle que nous obtenons normalement pendant la prise de masse. C’est la nouvelle ère de la supplémentation en protéines, et c’est réel. Si vous voulez développer des muscles maigres sans avoir à couper, vous avez besoin d’amino parfait. Maintenant, revenons au podcast Ultimate Human.
Oui. Maintenant, existe-t-il un répertoire pour les vrais dentistes biologiques ? Est-ce quelque chose sur lequel vous travaillez afin que, évidemment, tout le monde ne puisse pas voler à New York pour vous voir ? Vous êtes à, vous êtes à Long Island. Mais y a-t-il un endroit où je suis au Kansas ou en Californie ou au Texas et que je regarde ce podcast, je me dis, mec, je dois aller Oui. voir un dentiste biologique. Y a-t-il un registre que nous pouvons trouver ?
Il y en a un. Nous allons, nous allons donner le lien afin que les notes de vue parce que ce n’est pas seulement le dentiste biologique. Nous voulons nous assurer qu’ils sont pleinement formés.
OK, génial. Et ils, ils peuvent suivre les mêmes protocoles, comme les mêmes protocoles qui ont été utilisés sur vous, utilisés sur Sage, utilisés même sur Max, tout le monde. Nous pouvons en parler avant Max là-bas. Max, on vient de donner vos informations médicales à deux millions de personnes.
Non, vous avez travaillé sur toute mon équipe. Je veux dire, avec des résultats incroyables. Vous devez aussi une dent à Max. Il en doit deux à deux personnes dans cette pièce, mec. Allez, mec. Vous êtes tellement occupés. Vous êtes censés venir lundi, mec. Ne vous arrêtez pas. L’avez-vous apporté avec vous ? Je veux dire, pouvons-nous le mettre en place sur le podcast ? Mettez-le directement dedans. Ce qui était vraiment cool, c’est que la dernière fois que j’étais là-bas, j’ai dit : « Hé, vous savez, au fait, j’ai ébréché cette dent ici. » Et vous avez dit : « Pas de problème. Réparez la petite ébréchure que j’avais dans ma dent très très rapidement. » Comme un MacGyver. Mais, euh, oui, je veux dire, attirer l’attention là-dessus est important. Et je pense que, vous savez, lorsque vous y êtes allé et que vous m’avez enlevé la dent la dernière fois, c’était vraiment, ça avait un sens parfait la mécanique de ce que vous faisiez parce que, euh, vous avez utilisé de l’ozone et dans ma mâchoire. Vous avez utilisé la lumière rouge, je pense même la lumière verte dans ma mâchoire. Et, euh, et ensuite vous avez prélevé mon sang, vous l’avez centrifugé et vous avez fait ces petites limaces appelées, euh,
PRF, platelet-rich fiber, and and pack them into the wound. So, take my platelets, which—remember, platelets are um, these cells that carry growth factors—and they’re all the healing power of the human body. And most pe—most people have heard of PRP, platelet-rich plasma; um, you know, it’s infamous for being injected into joints and whatnot. But when you can actually concentrate the power of the human body in one location, I was actually very surprised how well I healed, um, how little pain that I had. You know, I had some pain that night, which you handle with Motrin. But um, uh, I didn’t take pain medication after the first night. Um, didn’t really interrupt my sleep. It interrupted my chewing for a few days. Stitches healed. Um, it’s completely painless thereafter.
But what I got out of it, the level of mental clarity and the fact that all of these symptoms, you know, almost immediately disappeared, was astounding. But what I remember from the surgery is when the tooth came out, there wasn’t—it didn’t bleed much at all.
Correct. And and my gum was very light pink, and it was oxygen-deprived. And you said that’s a bad sign. And I remember you worked on it until we saw the bright red flesh, fresh blood, because you wanted that blood supply to return. You wanted the immune system to be able to get there. You wanted to be able to flush out the toxins. Um, and it just made so much sense to me. Um, I remember when I had the root canal done, it was like, “Wham bam, thank you, ma’am.” It was just—I mean, the waiting room was full. There was a line of um, treatment rooms in this dental office I went to. I I won’t say who it was, but a line of treatment rooms, and all these dentists did was root canals. And they were just churning people through there. And um, I mean, he he drilled it, did the root canal, packed it, and I was out the door so fast. I almost felt like, “Wow, that was that was a really quick procedure. I wonder if he got everything. I wonder if he sanitized.” I just remember I had that on my mind, and then when we looked at the cone beam X-ray, there was an air gap in there and then the infection.
Correct. Um, and I think dentistry is probably the only practice of medicine that still believes you can leave dead tissue in the body.
Yeah. Right. A cardiologist doesn’t believe that. Nephrologists don’t believe that. You know, a colorectal surgeon would tell you if the valve is necrotic, you’ve got to take it out.
Right. The crazy part for that is like when you think of if a tooth is sensitive, right? You put a little desensitizer on there; there are two million tubules on a tooth or more, right? On each tooth. So, whenever you do the root canal procedure, you’re taking out the main nerve. So, tooth—so now it’s dead. So, all of a sudden the sensitivity goes away. But think of a tooth like a sponge. It’s going to soak up all the water that you spilled. Now, when you did that procedure, do you think all the two million tubules are plugged?
No. But they did a great service for you because if you had severe pain or acute pain, got to get you out of pain, right? So, the procedure still is necessary in dentistry. But what’s going to happen after the fact? We need to plan for the future to prevent any other disease from starting, right? Because there is going to be something that happens. We all start breaking down somehow, right? And if we want optimal health, then okay, well, this is a problem here. What are we going to address it—now or in the future? A few years from now, if you whenever. But at least a patient has a game plan.
Yeah. Right. Um, you know what was really interesting is you and I geek out a lot, and we text—we test things back and forth. “I mean, look at this study. Look at this study.”
Um, the photos.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. He sends me some gnarly surgical photos, which maybe I’ll throw a couple of in the show notes so you guys can—if you’re as gory as I am. Um, but they all have a, you know, a happy ending. That’s probably not the best. That’s not a good thing to say.
Yeah. They all have a bright spot at the end of the story, and um, you know, where you see these—these mouths just wrecked and torn apart, and then this beautiful smile emerge, and um, you know, one of—one of the articles that you sent me that I took a deep dive on was was actually looking at the pathogens that are in some of these root canals, identified as the same pathogens that they’re finding in a lot of um, cardiac pathology, including plaquing, scarring, narrowing, um, calcification, atherosclerosis, arterial sclerosis. And when you—and then they talked about it in this study, and I’ll put the link in—in the show notes below because I don’t want you to have to make a medical claim, but um, when—when they were mapping these pathways, you know, directly down to the heart, and you can see that these bacteria and these pathogens have a wide-open hallway to walk through; there aren’t even any closed doors—right into cardiac pathology. And the fact that they were able to isolate the exact pathogenic species from the jaw and the heart um, as the genesis of some of these pathologies, I was like, my head was like, “Poof,” you know, it just exploded. And I believe that dentists like yourself, especially under this new administration, I think you’re going to see a wider lane opening under Maha for practicing this type of—of dental medicine because right now um, the—what do they call it—the standard of care or the scope of practice sometimes keeps physicians and dentists in a certain box, and there’s risk from going outside of that. Um, and I think as we drive patient awareness, which hopefully this podcast will do, um, you know, hopefully we’ll see those things become a little more relaxed.
I agree with you, you know, with uh—we have a surgeon general, but we don’t have a dentist general, right?
There’s no—good point. There’s no—there’s there’s nobody. And hopefully it will be Casey Means here very soon.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And hopefully, you know, she considers a dentist on her team as well, because without your teeth, what are you going to do? Like, how do you process foods, right? How you going to get things into your body through an IV?
Trying to get her on the podcast on the 21st. So, I’ll ask her if she lands. I have her brother.
100%. Because it’s something that we just got to work as a team, right? And if we work as a team, then we can figure out the root of disease and chronic issues, and maybe we don’t need to spend as much money on medical care. So, so if somebody’s had a root canal, um, I mean, it’s possible that it’s not infected, right?
Correct. It’s probably 100% if it’s done really well.
100%. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but if you’ve had a root canal, um, and you don’t have any symptoms, what are some of the reasons why you should go seek a biologic dentist?
Yeah. So, to trace it through the meridian chart, are they having any issues like for you? Like, okay. Well, I’m not going to ask you if your toe is bothering you as a dentist, right? But if you’d let me know, you did actually.
Yeah, I did. When I took the picture, it’s like, yeah, I knew what was going on because I saw you stomp your toe a few times before, too. Like, “What is this guy doing? Why you keep stomping your toe?” We just tap it. And then when—then after that, I’m like, “Okay, I put it together.” I’m like, “Hey, this is what’s going on.”
Dude, you asked me about left anterior shoulder pain, left lower lobe pain, and my left big toe. I mean, it was so specific. And by the time you got into the lung, I was like, “You’re freaking me out a little bit.”
When you said the toe, yeah. I really freaked out because I didn’t even—I haven’t even told Sage, you know, that. It’s not like I’m walking around going, you know, once in a while my toe.
Yeah. It just was like a thing that wasn’t one of those things that would drive you to the emergency room or make me go to the urgent care. And I always thought it was like—I just sat on my leg wrong. And I would only get that catch when I would uh, exercise, but it was the exact same spot on the left side every time. So, I was like, maybe that’s just where I’m getting a diaphragm cramp. And then the shoulder, I was like, maybe I just have a little minor bicep issue. You know, it’s like, biohacker. I’m like, I—I kind of know what that is. It’s—
Oh yeah, that’s bicep tendon. Um, but then bang, it was—it was gone. And I—and when you walked in today, I said, “I’ve got to tell you, so many of the referrals that I’ve sent to you have text me,” and I showed you some of the texts when you got here, “have text me with these miraculous turnarounds in things that they thought were chronic or totally unrelated.”
Yeah. And no, I appreciate that because I treated hundreds of patients who come from the podcast. Even got some um, testimonials that they wrote that, you know, for you. Do we have a rough share in place with him? Should we be getting—
No, I’m just kidding. No, I love—No, no. I—I love the fact that they’re doing this. You know, they—they’re flying in from around the world because of this, and they can’t find the right care. And going back to your story, I freak out a lot of my friends and people I’m with because they’re like, “Ah, what the hell?” Like, how’s—how’s he know? But all you need is a 2D X-ray, a panorex, like—and just to take a look, not for any diagnosis, and then compare it to the meridian chart. The meridian chart, we have one interactive on our website. You can just click on each tooth, and it’ll tell you the references of what it—it points to. And it’s 5,000-year-old Chinese medicine, but they figured it out. So, it’s nothing that I’m doing that’s new. They—they laid out the groundwork, and just following it—and and it works every time. And with—they might not have symptoms—like you didn’t have symptoms all the time—but that once in a while—but that once in a while maybe like five minutes a day becomes 10 minutes a day, then an hour a day, and then it becomes every single day, and then you just get used to it. You’re like, “Oh, whatever, I’ll take a Motrin, I’ll take an Advil,” whatever, you know, for it, and I just learn to live with it. But why are you living with it? The body should heal—that—that sign of one thing off should be a light bulb: “I need to get checked out.”
Right. Yeah. I totally agree, and I think, you know, there’s—you know, the pandemic probably did all of us a big favor, and it sort of woke people up to wellness and becoming a citizen scientist, taking a lot of these choices into our own hands. And I think if nothing else, um, if you find a biologic dentist, I mean, there’s no harm in going in, making an appointment, and getting a cone beam X-ray if that’s what—correct—they use, um, and and just seeing for certainty because I—I’m not sure that—some of these full-body scans like a Pnovo uh, really is all the heart.
Yeah, they—they won’t show it evenly clearly. No, it’s—you need a dental 3D CT because I’ve gotten those quite a bit. Um, your daughter—like, “Hey, what’s going on with this person? Like, I kind of see a little bit here,” you know, but need definitely a dental 3D scan or CT scan. But the PNO will kind of wake you up and say, “There might be a pathology here,” and then you can go in and zero in on it.
Yeah. Yeah. But—but like going back to the—the cardiac issues like the plaque, right? If you—if they had the wisdom teeth, we—we know according to the meridian chart are connected to the—the heart—right, all four chambers of the heart. Now, if you have elevated—what we talked about before with cytokines—the cytokine—this is RANTES or CCL5—if it’s elevated, that can cause plaque—vessels—like plaque in the vessels—now, but the Proo scan might not show it yet, but in the future it’s developing, right? So, if there’s an issue here in the jawbone, we should address that prior to the plaque showing up, right?
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Like every day it’s goosebumps—every day. Something else.
Yeah. You send me some of them. Yeah. It—it’s just surpris—like yesterday I did a surgery about six hours long.
Insane surgery. And today I saw him for his followup. Like, “How you doing?” He’s like, “I feel totally different.” Like, I mean, literally, you got beat up.
Like, he’s—
Oh, yeah. Yeah. That’s—He had severe infections in his jawbone. And I—I’ve recorded some of the videos so I can send him clips of it, but he’s like, “I feel different today.”
Yeah. He’s swollen a little bit, you know, but he’s like, “I just feel different.” And one of the things I’ve noticed on every patient who goes to this treatment, cleaning up their jawbone, clean, taking out the stuff that shouldn’t be there, their eyes lighten up. There are patients when I—and these patients are asleep. So, the next day I see them, their eyes just are totally different—really.
Yeah. It just clears it up. There’s just something about it. I mean, it makes sense. All the pathogens are here, right? Your eyes—and they clear up. But the ones who are awake when I do the procedure, when I get that last little speck out of there cleaned up, you can just feel the energy. It happened on you too. It happens on everybody.
Max, everybody. Right. As soon as I get that speck out, it’s—the blood’s flowing—like, “Hey, how you doing?” And all of a sudden, it’s totally different. They feel it, right? Because it just opens up. It’s like brain fog gone, psychosis gone. It’s insane. Like joint pain gone, shoulder pain, neck pain, you name it. It just—there could be other stuff there, you know, but they—they’re starting to feel the difference there.
It makes a lot of sense to me because um, you know, along the lines of this—immuno fatigue—a lot of the viruses—some that you just named—people think that they catch these viruses, but very often you don’t catch them. These are not things that are happening to you; they’re things that are happening within you, right? Because there are things that um, uh, you’ve always had that are becoming recurrent. So, like if you had mono in eighth grade, let’s say, um, it comes back as Epstein-Barr as an adult. Um, if you had chickenpox, you know, it comes back as shingles. Um, if you have the JV virus, it can lead to, you know, um, infections in the brain. So, these are viruses that are already woven into our DNA. And the immune system doesn’t have a problem silencing these. Every time a cell divides, replicates, these viruses are silenced. But when you have a chronic low-grade infection, I think the important thing to understand is yes, our immune system is good at managing these things, but only for a period of time.
Yes. Right. It’s like, you know, even the greatest fighters rest. They don’t just stay in the ring and fight. And if the immune system is—is in this low-grade fight constantly, it gets exhausted; the immune system runs down. And this is what triggers these viral pathogens. And so, you know, you’re not saying, you know, the root canal caused the Epstein-Barr, but the root canal caused the infection which ran down the immune system which allowed for this EBV infection or a cytomegalovirus infection, or it—it allowed uh, a Lyme infection to become recurrent or shingles or any number of things.
Makes perfect sense because you are depleting the police force that’s there to protect you. Um, and are—are there—are there specific markers when—when you’re looking at the blood of patients that have these infections? Um, what kind of markers would they see?
It’s not going to be on typical blood work.
Correct. I mean, maybe C-reactive protein, but what kind of markers would you see on a panel or would you pull to see if maybe a chronic infection might be the underlying issue?
So, the problem is, majority of the time it shows nothing, right? You can pull the interleukin-1, interleukin-6, TNF-alpha, RANTES or CCL5, and it’s going to show nothing, but you have these hidden chronic infections. The problem is the body has walled it off. The jaws—not the body—the jawbone has walled this infection off—basically encapsulated, right? So, the blood can’t get to it, and it’s just a swamp inside. So, that’s the biggest problem. That’s one of the reasons why it goes undiagnosed or hidden for years. So, trying to get the blood work and saying, “Okay, well, where is this coming from?” It’s not one of those things that we do routinely because knowing that, “Hey, there’s a chronic issue inside here. Let’s clean it up, and then let’s see what happens,” and they—once it’s cleaned up, everything goes perfect for them.
What—what are—would you say are the most common three, four, five symptoms that you see, having treated so many patients, when they get in the chair? Is it headaches? Is it um, neurological issues? Is it brain fog? What are some of the unresolved things that you hear over and over again?
So, brain fog. Brain fog. IBS or gut issues. Bowel syndrome. Um, fatigue, joint issues, fibromyalgia. Well, that’s part of it, right? I feel like fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue are these just big casting nets that don’t really mean anything.
Well, they do. I mean, they—they—they give you a name for the symptoms you’re having, but I don’t feel like when you’re told you have chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia that it’s a thing that you can treat.
Correct. You know, um, so you hear that pretty—
Yeah. And autoimmune. Autoimmune. Yeah. It—It’s—And autoimmune so fast. Yeah. Same thing—like fibromyalgia is fast, right? Joint pain so fast. And it’s because something is off; their—their immune system, like you just said, it’s constantly fight or flight, constantly sympathetic overdrive, and it doesn’t know what to do. And then the trigeminal nerve is linked to the vagus nerve; they’re connected. So, now, if someone can’t get into parasympathetic, how are they supposed to digest—digest?
Yeah. Yeah. How are they supposed to do that? You can give them all the supplements you want in the world; they’re like, “It’s not working,” right?
Right. Because they’re stuck in this fight-or-flight state.
Yep. You know, it’s interesting. I was preparing for a talk not too long ago, and I was—I was just looking up stats on autoimmune disease, and depending on the autoimmune disease, it ranges between 80 and 90 plus percent of all autoimmune disease is idiopathic—meaning of unknown origin. So, somewhere between 80 and 90 and sometimes more than 90% of the time—I don’t remember the exact statistics for each one—but my jaw hit the floor. When you’re told that you have an autoimmune disease—Hashimoto’s, Graves’, lupus, you know, u—uh, Crohn’s—when you’re told that you have this autoimmune disease, um, it’s of unknown origin. They go, “Well, we don’t really know why you had—Oh, well, you know, your—your aunt on your mom’s side had it, and your uncle on your father’s side had it, so it’s probably familial,” even though there’s no gene that, you know, would—would be linked to
That autoimmune disease. And if that vast percentage of autoimmune disease where you’re led to believe, okay, you woke up one morning and your immune system decided to just randomly attack the colon. So now you have Crohn’s. It decided to randomly attack the thyroid. So you have Hashimoto’s. That randomly attack the lacrial gland in your eye. You have Sjogren’s. It’s hard to subscribe to that. Like I woke up one day and my immune system just went haywire. Um, very likely you woke up one day and the immune system couldn’t keep whatever it was at bay any longer.
And the sad thing about most people that are diagnosed with an autoimmune disease is that’s when the search stops, because they say you have Hashimoto’s, so you need levothyroxine, Synthroid, Armour Thyroid for the rest of your life, and the patient goes, okay, I have this disease, probably got it from my ancestor, and and the search stops. Yeah, but that’s kind of where the search should begin, in my opinion, because I don’t believe anything, and I don’t have all the answers, but I just don’t believe that anything in the human body is idiopathic. Yeah, I don’t think anything is of an unknown origin. I believe that we may not know what it is, but a diagnosis should not be out of thin air, of unknown origin. It should start the search, not end the search. Yeah. You know what I mean?
You know, I agree. I just recently met a doctor in St. Louis, and he said something very special to me. He’s like, I treat the symptom, not the diagnosis. It’s like that’s very interesting because we’re so into diagnosis, ICD9 codes or ADA codes, like, hey, this is the dental code, this is the medical code, that everyone needs a diagnosis. No, let’s go back, take a step back, look at the symptoms. What are the symptoms? How are we going to challenge the body to fix itself? So if we get rid of whatever is blocking, the body can heal. And that’s what I love about the human body, and that’s why I like got along with them so well, because it’s like we’re both in the same field. Like you’re a medical doctor and a dentist. This is what we want, cuz the human body can heal, and it heals really well. Like it’s God’s given gift, somehow created us to heal.
Yes. But we have these obstacles and roadblocks in the way. Yeah. And then you label like, oh, you have a diagnosis, here’s Hashimoto’s or here’s lupus, and then just deal with it. But then what do you, how do you deal with it? You get a pill, but if you’re, you can’t digest, then how, how’s it going to work? Like it’s like let’s go back to the basics. And that’s the fun part about biological dentistry. It’s like I love playing detective work with the patients, like, okay, well, when was this first thing done for you? Okay, from, let’s go back in time, and let’s, did something happen? Did something change for you? Teenagers all the time, they’re like, they, we call it freshman 15 or 20, whatever it’s called now. They’re like, yeah, I just started gaining weight, and just my, I started having gut issues. But what did you have a few months prior? Oh yeah, I just saw the dentist. I got my wisdom teeth taken out right before I go to college. Okay, well that’s the only thing you had done. Anything else? They’re like, no. Okay, so what, maybe we should just take a look there, and that’s our starting point, because if your life changed at from that starting point, let’s go back to it, and let’s see what we can do and how to make a difference for you.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. And I think that you know this is opening up a whole field. Have you, have you seen, and I’m not asking you to make a medical claim by any means, but have you observed patients that had autoimmune conditions of any kind go into remission, or have you seen their antibodies turn off to the point where we would say, “Okay, that condition is now in remission.”
Yeah. I have a patient who allowed me to share her testimonial, Tasha. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Her autoimmune is gone. I’ve seen Epstein-Barr virus gone. Really? Where, where can I see that testimonial? Right here. Yeah. Oh, right here. I could post it. Yeah, my phone. She gave me a whole, a whole testimonial to like, Oh, she did? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, I’ll throw in the show notes. Okay, that’s great. Thank you, Natasha. Yeah. So, what, what autoimmune did she have? Uh, Epstein-Barr virus and something I don’t know the specifics about it, but she went into the whole detail. Yeah. But every, and then she had joint pain, and completely gone. Everything gone. Yeah. So many people with diffuse joint pain, and, and, and do you think that that’s because the immune system is distracted, or do you think that these, do you think that these bugs are migrating to low blood flow areas of the the body, like joints, tendons, ligaments, you know, cartilage surfaces, things like that where they can retreat. You know, Lyme disease, for example, is infamous for hiding in in what’s called the dorsal root ganglion. So retreating to this area of really limited blood flow, it’s like running into a dark alley so the authorities can’t really see you. I mean, the viruses are great at doing that.
I think it, it’s both actually, because there’s also the parasites there, right? But the the two parts I would say to that is one that it’s, it’s inhibiting the blood flow or the electric, because if we look at the meridian charts or the meridian pathways, it’s energy flow. So if we’re, and the human body is high power electricity. So if electricity wires are cut, it can’t flow anymore. But if you look at high power light lines, like an electrical plant, the electricity can jump, and that’s how the human body is. So it tries to make it up, and it’s like I’m going to keep on going and going until I can’t anymore. So when the flow is stopped, that’s when the disease starts. So that’s part of it. Another part, it’s definitely hiding on the on the nerve itself. Because when I clean up the the jawbone, especially in the wisdom teeth area, I could see the inferior alveolar nerve, which is what we call the IAN nerve, gives us innervation sensory to our lower jaw. And literally yesterday I was cleaning up, I could see the whole strand there, but I’m cleaning all the pathogens off of it. And an X-ray you just see a black area and a white circle. So you know that’s the nerve. Okay. But how deep and how infected it is, you don’t know until you get in there. And when you get in there, I’m like, “Oh, that’s his whole nerve there.” And I’m cleaning. So now imagine all those pathogens, just not viruses but parasites, mold or fungus and bacteria. They’re making their way back up into the brain, right? because they love that nerve. They love it’s retrograde axonal transport, RAT, right? So they want to go backwards, and now from there, now they got access to the rest of the body, cuz they all, they’re going to communicate with each other, and they’ll make themselves wherever they want to go hide, and then that’s where the joint pain or disease organ stuff, and I think it’s important to point out that’s why it’s not linked to just one thing, right? I mean, that’s why it can, it can manifest itself in so many different ways.
You know, I talked about this with this condition, diffuse vasculitis or pan-vasculitis, where there’s um, certain thing I won’t say what that thing is, you can probably read between the lines, which causes proliferation of spike protein and causes the lining of the vessel to be irritated and inflamed, and when you inflame that much surface area in the body, which is about six tennis courts versus the surface area of the skin, which is about half a tennis court, and I’m talking about the lining of the blood vessel. So you get an inflammatory condition, diffuse vasculitis, pan-vasculitis in this part of the body, you’ve interrupted the most important blood-brain exchange in in a human being, because now nutrients, um, and raw materials, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, what have you, that are in the blood cannot exit into the tissue, and waste from the tissue, and I don’t mean stool or urine, I mean cellular waste, can’t exit the tissue and get back into the blood. And so the myriad of symptoms that come from this is not just singular. And that’s why people have a hard time accepting that this one hub can lead to all of these spokes.
Correct. And I feel like biologic dentistry is like this, you know, this one infection in the jaw, whether it’s parasitic, viral, bacterial, or combination, um, or fungal or mold or mycotoxin, this, this infection can manifest itself like this, like this, like this, I mean it goes from noon all the way back around to yes, and and I think when something has that diffuse of a myriad of symptoms, it’s hard to say it’s that, and that’s why I think it’s so important to just bring awareness to this, because it may be as simple as you finding a biologic dentist in this registry that you’re going to share with us, mom, and going in making an appointment and saying, “Let’s get our teeth cleaned and let’s just do this cone beam X-ray just for peace of mind.” It’s like going in getting a proo scan or a full full body MRI. Um, and do this, you know, just for peace of mind.
Yeah. Like, uh, one of the patients you shared and she also said I could say her name, Amelia. He came up and Sage talked to her for a while and she was like, you know, on the fence of what was going on. So, she came up and she’s like, “Yeah, I, I have trouble lifting my kid.” And that was touching because it’s a, it’s a newborn and she can’t lift her child. And I was like, “Okay.” And then she’s just telling me she has symptoms with IBS and chronic joints. Like, okay. We did the surgery. Next day she’s lifting her little kid. Like, what’s going on? Like, my pain’s gone. I’m like, “There’s no way.” She told like that. I’m like, there’s no way. She told me about that. And that’s why I’m stunned. It gives me goosebumps every time. The next day, I’m like, wow. Now her big boss is in to see it, too. Yeah. And her IBS is gone. She’s like, I don’t want to share. Like, you know, TMI, but she’s like completely gone. She always had trouble. And I was like, okay. Cuz that just confirms like cuz I do all the studying. It takes like 7,500 hours to graduate dental school in four years. Just education. I mean, I’ve studied over 25,000 hours after that because just me and you like how we geek out. When I see something, it’s like go down that rabbit hole. Love reading.
Oh, no. You’re always sending me slides from lectures and half of these I would love to go to. Yeah. You know, and it’s interesting cuz it’s like I, I fly around the world to go, go learn cuz it’s like this is just, wait, you just did that and that person healed. What am I doing wrong? Or how did I mess up on somebody? Because it’s a Hippocratic oath. It’s, it’s an ethical duty of mine. It’s like I can’t do something wrong, and if I did something wrong, I need to reverse it. Yeah. And and it’s just, ju, it’s it goes all around. And that’s the thing with, it’s hard to pinpoint one symptom or one issue. But you know what’s really exciting about that is I often try to make the argument that usually multiple things in the human body don’t fail at the same time. They don’t like you don’t wake up with a mental illness, an autoimmune disease, irritable bowel syndrome, you know, uh, chronic infection, a viral pathogen, parasite, uh, you know, paresthesias, all of these things. Usually what happens is one thing goes wrong that causes everything instead of multiple things failing at the same time. And we rarely go back and look at what was the first domino to fall.
Mhm. And we’re so far down the line of dominoes that we’re going, well, you know, you don’t think like I just had a client, and I am not a physician and not licensed to practice medicine. I was there uh, with a licensed physician. What was really interesting is he had a pretty severe neurological condition which they thought was Parkinson’s. He didn’t respond to the Parkinson’s treatment, and um, and it’s getting progressively and progressively and progressively worse. And then I, and then we’re looking through the the blood work and there all these specific interleukins. So all of these cytokines secreted from white blood cells. And if you actually map the different interleukins, it will kind of tell you what that white blood cell was in the presence of, right? It’ll secrete a certain interleukin for one kind of um, enemy, and it’ll secrete a different interleukin for another kind of enemy. Um, and so I look, I was looking at all these interleukins. They go, you know what’s really interesting is each of these interleukins are cytokine secretions for the presence of a virus. So this definitely looks viral. Then we looked at the urine test and it was like, wow, they have a Borrelia bacteria, which is a Lyme co-infection um, bacteria in their urine. Really high levels of of this Lyme co-infection bacteria. And then we start to back up the clock and lo and behold, I talked to him and he’s like, “Yeah, I had Lyme disease in 2018.” And my head went, and I was like, “How did the neurologist miss this?” Because um, that’s not something that should be uh, discarded.
Correct. So, so what happened was this infection happened. They thought it was fixed. It stayed low grade. Um, and then the dominoes started to fall. Autoimmune, neuroinflammatory conditions, um, you know, showing up as a a neurological disorder, then showing up in the prefrontal cortex and then affecting memory and then mood and then emotion. And so by the time you get as far down the road as we were, you’re not really thinking of how do we go all the way back to the beginning and see if we can find that first domino. Let’s just start standing these things up in reverse.
Correct. And I feel like for a lot of people, these oral cavitations are that domino. Yeah. Um, because it’s especially frustrating for people like me that I would consider to be, you know, taking fairly good care of themselves, right? I don’t certainly don’t profess to be Mother Teresa, but I’m conscious of the food that I’m eating. I’m conscious of my sleep. I’m conscious of my air and my water and and uh, you know, so and there are a lot of people like that. We exercise regularly, get sunlight, all the all the things and and yet there’s, there’s something that’s just off that you can’t put a finger on. Yeah. And and maybe this is that domino for them.
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Yeah. And I agree 100% with you because the we see patients who are athletic and but they gained a little bit of weight, then they lost weight, right, and then all of a sudden they’re on this diet and they’re like, I just got sick. Was it the diet that made me sick or was it what I have inside my mouth? Then you have patients who are overweight, obese, they’re like everything’s fine on them. Their mouths are a complete mess because their bodies of visceral fat can secure the toxins, right? Visceral fat, abdominal fat holds on to toxins, right? Then they start to lose weight and they’re like, “I just got sick. I should just get gained the weight back.” No, it, it’s you lost the, the whole thing started years ago when you had all this done. You gained the weight. There’s a reason why you gained the weight, not just because of poor lifestyle. It’s because you couldn’t digest the food properly because you went into sympathetic overdrive, but your body was handling it. And then you decided, hey, I want to get, I want to get healthy again. I want to lose all this weight, which is great. Then you got sick. Yeah. So, they’re like, damn, what did I do wrong? I should have just been, I should have just been overweight. That’s a complete wrong thing to do.
Yeah. It’s, we got to go back to that starting point. And that’s the fun part. That, that’s the part where the patient has to be their own advocate, do a timeline, and that, that just helps us all out. It helps you out cuz you overlook a lot of people’s care underneath the medical team, right? Yeah. And it just helps get to that. Okay. Well, now that’s where it started. Let’s, let’s go look at that. And then if we get to that starting point and everything just arises. Yeah. Totally agree. You know, um, so I think we’ve hammered home the need for people to to get this checked out. You know, I often talk about my my morning routine, my sleep routine. And part of my morning routine, and I want to get your opinion on this, is, you know, taking our oral care routine from just being the bare minimum, which is just brush your teeth, um, to what I would call like platinum oral care routine. So, um, how important in your opinion is it to add tongue scraping, flossing, things like oil pulling? Um, are you a fan of those? Because like my oral routine is I use a hydroxyapatite toothpaste. I’m not a huge fan of using the high-fluoride toothpaste. Um, floss at night. Um, you know, swish, uh, I tongue scrape at night and in the morning with a copper tongue scraper because remember the copper is not the important thing. It’s just that it doesn’t harbor the bacteria.
100%. Yeah. Um, and a lot of these are plastic or they’re um, you know, aluminum. They just don’t have the same capacity to be bactericidal as as copper. And those those things are dirt cheap. I mean, I think you get them for five, six bucks on Amazon. But it is astounding how much better I feel when I just add those few little things. Just the tongue scraping. I keep a little dish of uh, organic extra virgin olive oil and I’ll just take a half a tablespoon of it and I’ll swish as long as I can. I never do 12 or 15 minutes like the thing said. It’s like dude, your mouth gets exhausted. You’re like 30 seconds feels like 10 minutes. My ADHD kicks in. I’m like screw this dude. This is like this is an absolute pain in the ass. Um, but uh, amazing how much better I feel and my gums used to be really sensitive. They’re not sensitive at all now. My teeth are not sensitive at all. Um, so how, how important is that oral care routine and where would you say each of those things falls on the spectrum? So tongue scraping 100% super important. Uh, mouthwash I would get rid of. Yeah. Yeah. Pour it out because the biggest thing is some of them are floor cleaners or antiseptics, whatever you’re using. Biggest problem with mouth uh washes, you’re wiping out the good bacteria plus the bad bacteria, but then you’re also low in nitric oxide, right? Cuz it, it starts from the back of the tongue. So then people are low in nitric oxide, low in energy. So just get rid of that. Coconut oil pulling, virgin olive oil pulling, 100% important. Try at least five minutes, you know.
Okay. Do recommend 10 minutes, but at least get five minutes. Three to five, I think I can do. Yeah. So, and then don’t, don’t spit it down in the bathtub, you know, put it in like someone’s going to slip after you. Yeah. Yeah. Don’t spit in, I don’t, you shouldn’t be spitting in your bathtub anyway. I mean, that’s a whole different discussion, but I spit it into the garbage can cuz I’m afraid that it will like cool off and coagulate again in my be. Um, with toothpaste, that, that’s the biggest thing. I use a toothpowder uh, because anytime a paste is formed, there might be a chemical in there. So, I use a tooth powder, um, has bentonite clay in it, has cinnamon in it, has, okay, uh, hydroxyapatite in it, like
Form. So, I like using that. Yeah, I’ve used the um I’ve used the dry chewable tablets, too. Y um I’ve used those before, too. I forget what the brand was. If I find out, I’ll link it in the show notes. No, I don’t have affiliation with any of those. But, but you know, that’s made a huge difference. Flossing and oil pulling made a huge difference.
Man, if you just want your mouth to feel good, correct? Brush, tongue scrape, floss really well, and then oil pull either with something really thin like a coconut oil, I mean an extra-virgin olive oil, um or I take I take the whole coconut oil thing and pull it in there. Man, when you spit that out when you’re done, I don’t know. Something feels like just healthy and alive in there. And it adds two or three minutes to your oil care, I mean, your oral care routine and five bucks to your budget.
Well, the the floss is super important, right? So, you got to make sure it’s not doesn’t have PFAS, all those forever chemicals in there because a lot of the floss is not good. It has plastics. Now, you got microplastic toxicity going into your gums. You know, those blood vessels all the gums are alive, right? So, now you some good um floss to use. So, no affiliation. Cocoa floss is one of them. Coco. Yeah. And then David’s has one um with your PFA clean and everything clean, but a water pick. A simple water pick. Yeah, water picks that will do the trick, right? It’ll get the food out in between the teeth naturally.
Like flossing is super important because we’re told flossing is important, but remember the teeth can remineralize. If you have the right diet and taking good care of yourself, the teeth are going to remineralize. It’s it’s hard for food if food’s getting stuck between your teeth. There’s a problem there, right? Either you have recession, periodontal disease. It’s to get over to the dentist and figure out why you’re getting food stuck between the teeth, right? Majority of time food should you not the spillways that should just wash right between right. But it’s amazing how many times I swish at night and I’ll see like a little particle come out. Yeah. You know, and I’m just like just happy that I did it.
Um well, what else does my audience need to know um about biologic dentistry? Why they should seek, you know, uh consult with a biologic dentist or what symptom might they be having right now that they can’t put a finger on where your antenna goes up and says you should come see somebody like me? That’s exactly why they should see a biological dentist because No, that’s exactly why because they cannot No, what you said last because no one can figure out what’s going on. And the biggest the one of the biggest problems with that is I’m like the 30th person they see. They’ve been around everywhere. They spent so much money on their healthcare. They’re so skeptical by the time they come together. Yeah. And then they’re like, “Okay, fine. I’ll just do it.” And then they’re like, “I should have started here.” I’m like, “Yeah.” Unfortunately, like dentists, we’re the tail. We should be the head. We should be teeth are in the head, right? the first one to go see. Um, it’s important to see everybody, but we should be up at the top priority. But if they have something that no one can figure out, definitely go see a biological dentist. Amazing.
But the other thing is preventative care, right? Why wait for something to go wrong? Just get the scan done. Go to the right biological. We’ll put a link there. I’ll I’ll get you the link. So this way, get checked out. And if something’s there, you don’t need to go after it right away if you don’t want to, but at least now you know. Mhm. And you you can plant, right? Right. And you know, the the major thing in biological dentistry is is the ones that we we’re trained. Uh we look for any metals, anything that’s titanium, any anything mercury or whatever you want to the silver fillings, whatever you want to call it these days, because there’s so much vast, you know, there’s so much bureaucracy behind it. Uh the metal crowns or gold crowns. Gold crowns were called the gold standard, but it’s actually causing galvanic shock. It’s it’s it’s causing low grade electrocution. You know, it’s like touching a 9-volt battery. Like we’ll touch it all day long, right? Show me some of the um images when you take these teeth off and they’ve got the um they’ve got those metal Yeah. It’s all black underneath. It’s all black underneath cuz it’s just been a low voltage battery. Yeah. And now, how do you save that tooth? That tooth is dead. It’s been dead for a long in time. Like form and function was okay. That’s traditional dentistry, but biological dentistry is going past form and function, right? So, we want to see what what else is going on with that tooth. Right. Right.
Um, the next thing is if you have a dead tooth or root canal treated tooth, if there’s something a dead tooth meaning it was injured, you got into an accident, whatever, might be discolored, get that checked out. There could be a low grade infection underneath there that’s hidden. And then if you had a tooth taken out, and if it wasn’t taken out with the biological dentist, just get it checked out to see if there’s something there. Yeah. Right. The bite is of course is important. Uh, and then the oral gut connection. That’s huge because everything’s metabolic. Like if the gut’s not working, how’s your body going to ever process anything, right? So th those are the five major things. The three the first three things are always like the the routine. The other two we want to make sure and not everyone needs perfect bite. You know, we we all want one perfect bite like the teeth to occlude each other. But as long as it’s adequate, we’re okay because there’s a lot of other things to do majority of the time, right?
So for my audience that didn’t see the first podcast and doesn’t know who you are, um how do they find you? How do they find out more about you? Um, where can they locate you? Yeah. So, they can go to toothmbandbody.com. Toothmband. Yeah.com. And then there’s an interactive meridian chart that we talked about and we stressed on this podcast and they could there’s a link there. They can put an inquiry and then we’ll get back to them. Okay. Super. Absolutely.
And you know the final question because you answered it last time. It’s coming. Um, what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human? So, you know, things have changed, right? Because last time we did it, Yeah. He’s gonna say to be filthy rich. No, no, no. Money is a byproduct of everything, right? So, it’s just so it’s optimal oral optimal healthcare, right? We all want to be healthy. And the thing is there’s so many blocks. There’s so much information coming at us like, oh, do this, do this, or do this, do that, right? It’s breaking it down and learning how to be the best person I could be. M and what’s changed a lot is my spirit. This is something that’s become more spiritual and the energy flow and it’s just wild how it trapped. So yeah, man. It it’s just it’s so good. Yeah, you’re singing my tune, man. I’m a big believer in the power of prayer which is essentially the law of attraction and the law of abundance and frequency and you know tying into the quantum because there is a lot more that we don’t understand and that we can’t yet specifically I agree there is science that explains what we don’t understand but we won’t understand it because it’s too far out there. Yeah. Right. And there are machines out there, gadgets that measure the the the meridians, the electrical voltage, right? But it’s it’s just phenomenal. And when you connect with those people, it’s like we were supposed to be in the room together. Somehow we took a flight from you were from coming from Germany, someone’s coming from Switzerland, someone’s coming from Mexico. We were just supposed to be in that room together. Yeah, it’s wild. I totally agree with you.
You know, totally off topic. Um, but Sage and I just recently went to the pyramids in Egypt and um, you know, a lot of people talk about like this feeling when you’re there, this this sort of just presence of some, you know, kind of force or spirit. And when you’re standing there and you’re looking at these 72-ton rocks, okay, solid pieces of granite that weigh 72 tons a piece. And you see them stacked hundreds of feet high. And we’re applying all these modern engineering, you know, theories on how it happened. And you see that from one corner of the pyramid to the other corner of the pyramid, it’s only sank um 8 millimeters. Eight millimeters. I used to live in a building in Miami called the Porsche Tower. Yeah. And it’s building. Yeah. The round one that had the car elevator in it. And I read an article like five weeks ago and if you live in the Porsche Tower, know it’s not going to fall into the ocean. But I read an article that they went up and did an engineering survey and the building had sank on one side um 3.7 in. Oh wow. I’m like, okay, that thing was built in 2018. Yeah. And it has sank three and a half inches. 3.7 in. The pyramids have been there for 5,000 years. Yeah. And they there’s a difference of eight millimeters. Yeah. From one side to the other. I mean, it’s so it’s it’s such a Yeah. You know, low grade slope that you know, you can pour water on one side, it won’t run to the other. It’s just fascinating to me. And I don’t go I’m not down the alien rabbit hole. I’m not, you know, um I’m not saying anything supernatural, but you realize that there is a lot that we don’t understand. I think that, you know, our society went one way with our understanding of combustion engines and pulleys and levers and traditional science, but there’s a whole other science, Neil, that I think is now becoming more mainstream about spirit, spirituality. And by spirituality, I don’t necessarily mean religion, but spirituality, our connection to each other, purpose, commitment, you know, the the effect that emotional states have on our health, gratitude versus vengeance, and and um you know, so I I think you’re right. Yeah, I I agree 100%. This like since we met, since we known each other, this has been a spiritual journey for me. You know, it’s not religious. It’s just something about energy and something of how the human body just starts to work. And I don’t know why I was put in this position, you know? It’s just I was not even a I was not even a major even a major like in science or dentistry going into college. I thought I was going to be a finance guy, a Wall Street guy. That’s what I went into school for. My mom was a dentist. So, it was just something that I was like, “Oh, I’ll just do it.” You know, it’s like whatever. I’ll just take science classes. I’ll be a dentist. And then once I took those courses, I just like non-stop and just like now I got to be on the Well, now you’re just so passionate and driven about like you and I really do geek out and like legit. He’ll he’ll be sitting in these lectures somewhere around the world. He starts taking pictures of the screens and the slides. He’s like, “Oh my god, look at this with vitamin D3 and this pathway of vitamin C.” And and I’m like, “Dude, why didn’t you tell me I want to do I would have gone there to that like I want to go to the peptide conferences. I want to go to the dental conferences. I’m so fascinated by it.” And it’s just amazing to have pioneers like you, Dr. Gandhi, you know, out there fighting for the truth, you know, staying ahead of the curve, not stopping your learning curve when you got out of school, reading your peer-review journals, going to lectures, trying to further educate yourself. I think, you know, there’s something in the Hippocratic oath about intellectual curiosity. Mhm. And I think it was Hippocrates that said, you know, I’m paraphrasing it and bastardizing it, but something along the lines that, you know, when physician in the practice of medicine loses their intellectual curiosity, they really lose the capacity to to give care and you’ve definitely got that intellectual curiosity. So, thank you, man.
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