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Hello, can you hear me? Congratulations on 5 million followers! Please upload more new videos. Will there be a New Year's Eve dinner video? There will be, there will be. New videos will be available. Will you be able to edit it before the New Year? Probably. Otherwise, there will be nowhere to go for the New Year, right? Even haircuts won't be available. The system has been optimized. Can processor performance make up for it? I think you can do the opposite, but if the system itself is bad, it's bad. What can you do? 8S into the top four, eight into the top three. These two are neck and neck, not much different. Neck and neck. But if you have to say it, maybe the GPU part is not necessarily. Will solid-state prices fall back? They will fall sooner or later, but it just depends on when. This year or next year, right? I don't think it will be that easy to fall in the short term. How is the Alai machine compared to the SD? Alai's advantage is if you think the Steam OS is not used to it, then if you have to buy a Windows handheld, then the online is quite cost-effective. You can say that buying an old online now is more cost-effective, and the front end is easier to use. Among these Windows handhelds, will there be a public beta for the first round? We probably won't use the public beta, we won't test the third beta, but the public beta should be in the first round, and we should also test it. Yes, but I don't know when the public beta will be. Will it take half a year or something? It will take a few months for the public beta. Anyway, we will definitely check out the first round when the time comes. When will the M5 be released? What is M5? Do you mean the new MacBook Pro M5? M5 Pro and Max processors, right? Probably in another month. Anyway, it's coming soon. I don't know the specific time. As for the M5 Air, I don't know either. The M5 Air should be released with the M5 Pro and Max, and the MacBook Pro should be released together. Will memory manufacturers deliberately not expand production to maintain high prices? Once production capacity increases, they will be forced to lower prices. To maintain high prices, they are now controlling production capacity. No problem, they are doing this. But how to say it? It's a bit of a squeeze on the supply chain right now. All AI companies are competing for this production capacity. It actually makes memory manufacturers earn very little. At the same time, it also has some sense of crisis. Every company has some sense of crisis. Because many people, for example, I am Samsung, and many orders from Samsung are not because they really want to buy my memory, but because SK Hynix's production capacity is tight, so they placed an order with Samsung as a precaution. Whether this order should be manufactured or not, they don't know. This is the situation. Some orders may be canceled in the end. So they are actually very flustered. This tulip bubble, I don't know when it will burst. So memory manufacturers are also a bit hesitant to mess around. They also have some sense of crisis. But anyway, no matter what, they are still making a lot of money. How can they not make a lot of money? When will memory sticks fall in price? I don't know. Maybe this year, maybe after the New Year, maybe not. Maybe next year, right? It's hard to say. Who knows? I don't know what's going on. Which machine's performance will be better for playing Tower of Fantasy? I haven't specifically tested it. iQOO 10's heat and power consumption are both disastrous. iQOO 10 is a bit old. I think if you switch to a current phone, it should be fine. Switching to an 8 Gen 2 machine should be fine. This SC asks the streamer, does a phone with active cooling need special attention to avoid dust or water ingress? Dust or water ingress. Many of the new machines this generation support waterproofing. Many machines with fans support waterproofing. So you're fine. If it supports waterproofing and dustproofing, just use it normally. If it's an older machine with a fan, some may not support waterproofing. Then you have to be careful. If it's not waterproof, it's not that versatile. What about 5 million followers in 10 years? There will be big news, but we can't talk about it yet. It can't be revealed before this video is released. Currently, TSMC's 2nm products are in the laboratory. There is no large-scale mass production. There should be tape-outs in the laboratory, and reservations should have been made. Can everyone watch for a night? You can loop it for a night. I think looping it for a night should be okay. We released a video about selling your graphics card back then. Now, should you sell your memory? We released the "Sell Your Graphics Card" video when graphics cards were at their peak. That was like being a stock god. Now I want to make an accurate prediction. I'll release a "Sell Your Memory" video when memory is at its peak. I'll be a stock god. But anyway, I don't know when memory will fall, but it's definitely at a high point now. If you really have a lot of memory in your computer, I think you can sell it. If you only play games and don't work, 16GB is enough. Then you can sell your remaining memory, it doesn't matter. If you are short of money, you can sell your stored memory. It's no problem. This is good. If AI doesn't fall, will memory never fall? I don't think so. Because the demand for AI now is a lot of repeated orders. I mentioned earlier that many are repeated orders to ensure production capacity. For enterprise needs, certainty is required. In this case, many are placing repeated orders from different suppliers. Whether the actual AI demand is that large, I think it needs time to verify. In the end, if you say AI will fall, I don't think it will necessarily fall. But whether memory supply can keep up is hard to say. Let's see if any manufacturer can't hold on. Yuanbao red envelope, Qianwen takeout, right? Happy New Year. Anyway, you see. If you want to sell memory, you can sell it. Whatever you want. The 17 Pro Max is heavy. You're talking about the iPhone, right? I think I'm used to it. Honestly, I still prefer small, thin, and light phones. But since I've been using heavy phones for a long time, I can accept using heavy phones now. I can just use it like this. But deep down, I still prefer thin and light phones. Let me get some water. Why does Yunfei use Spotify? I think Spotify's music recommendations are very accurate. It can always recommend niche music that you wouldn't find on your own. That's why I use Spotify. It's quite good. How much will buying an original 5090 in the US improve? Compared to the 5090, the original D and 5090 are no different. Except for specific AI scenarios, which are rare. There is no difference. But if you're talking about the DV2, it's stronger. DV2 is about a single-digit to 10% weaker than the original. And the most crucial thing is the video memory. Which browser does Yunfei use on his Mac? Safari, Edge, or Firefox? On a Mac, you definitely use Safari. Otherwise, you wouldn't experience the advantages of Apple, right? I think the only problem with Safari is that it doesn't have as many plugins as Chrome-based browsers. But it's not bad. If you use Safari well, it's great. Hello, Brother Fei. Y7000's U7255HX5060 on JD.com is 7600. Where is the reduction in configuration compared to the one with P? Y7000, right? No P. I actually don't know where it's reduced. I haven't researched this product. But the Y series shouldn't be too bad. My understanding is that Lenovo's entry-level to high-end market is now given to Legion. So I feel like they will deliberately make some distinctions. It's probably reduced in cooling, right? Some people say, look at Pig King. Yes, you can look at Pig King. I haven't heard of Open Cloud. Will Android phones completely surpass Apple? But why haven't sales surpassed Apple for so many years? This is probably written by some media editor trying to get clicks. Apple has never completely surpassed Android, and Android has never completely surpassed Apple. It's always about phones, right? It depends on which one you like and which one's selling points appeal to you more. There's no such thing as a complete surpass. Brother Fei, the Android optimization for Zhonglu is terrible. Many 2D animations load and only get one or two frames. You can give feedback to the official. 2D animations load and only get one or two frames. This is mainly on my phone. I have an 8 Gen 2 phone myself, and I don't seem to have encountered it being too laggy. I don't know if it's related to the model. I'm even using a Samsung, not even a high-end machine. Samsung's problem is that its peak performance can't be achieved. Its scheduling is too bad. So I'm locked at 40-45. It's really over. I can't run at 60 frames. This 8 Gen 2 is also bad. Samsung's scheduling is also bad. It can't run at 60 frames. But apart from that, it's okay to play. After locking the frame rate, it's basically not laggy. There's no serious stuttering. I think it's okay. When choosing a laptop, the R9000X this year compared to the Y9000X in 2025 is a big difference. What configuration will the R9000X this year have? The HX architecture, what's it called? HX, right? Compared to the Y9000X in 2025, there might not be much improvement. First of all, the graphics card is unchanged. This year's 50G will not have any upgraded processor architecture HX. There will be no update this year. And there will be no progress compared to Meteor Lake HX. There will be no improvement. So what's the point of comparing these two? There's no difference. There's definitely no difference. It's even unknown if it will be a refresh. There should be no Super this year. No 5070 Super this year. Oh, S23 Plus is very laggy when opening Alipay and JD. Especially Alipay is almost unusable. For Samsung, the first generation of the 23 series is reasonable. The second generation is also reasonable. After all, it's an 8 Gen 2 chip. Plus, Samsung's scheduling is also bad. So I think it's normal. It can't handle rogue software. It says it's using X2000X. It normally runs at 60 frames. The event interface and friend list are extremely laggy, which is very strange. It should be a Qualcomm processor. It should be. But the event interface and friend list are extremely laggy. I think this is also a scheduling issue. Because I haven't encountered a specific friend list that lags. Can I buy a graphics card from the late mining era? You have to look at the model. If you want a 3080 12GB, I think it's okay to buy. Because by the time this card was released, the mining era was almost over. So I think it's fine. If it's a 3080 Ti, it's fine. If it's a 3090, right? A 3090 Ti was the craziest card. Why play on a phone after landing? Many people don't have time to play games. They just play during their commute. I think playing on a phone is probably the logic. Playing during the commute seems fine. But I see that most payments for Genshin Impact in China are on PC, and mobile payments are a minority. This game is indeed more suitable for PC. Building infrastructure, etc. It's tiring to look at on a phone. Such a small screen. For Honkai Impact 3 and Genshin Impact on mobile, is it necessary to upgrade from 9300 to 9400 or add 8 Gen 2? Upgrading from 9300 to 9400 will not bring any performance improvement. There will be no performance improvement. If you upgrade from 9300 to 8 Gen 2, there will be some improvement. But you have to see if you want to change phones. If you think 9300 is enough, then use it. It's not a big deal. It's still usable. It's still usable. Why is the phone so laggy when playing Genshin Impact? Is it poor optimization, or is UE4 too demanding for phones? UE4 is inherently demanding, and it's an open world. When you combine UE4 and open world, it's hard to find good optimization. There's nothing to be done. This task is too difficult. Will NV's NEX release a handheld? I, I, I'll tell you, based on current leaks, NEX should be the DGX Spark chip. That thing is not something that can be put into a handheld. Its competitor is the Steam Deck, which is the AMD 395. Do you think anyone will buy an AMD 395 handheld, except for niche enthusiasts? My God, a handheld that doesn't even have a battery. A handheld that's so heavy it can be used to train your biceps. Who will buy that, except for niche enthusiasts, except for those who specifically want to tinker with hardware? So I think if NEX is positioned like the 395, it can't be a handheld. You, I'm a niche enthusiast. GPT Win 5. Then I have nothing to say. I just want to say that people who buy machines like GPT Win 5 are not here to play games. They are here to play with the machine. Isn't that right? They are here to play with the machine. Should I choose Windows 11 Pro or Professional Workstation for gaming? There's no difference. In actual use, there's no difference. Don't worry too much about which version of Windows to install. Pro and Professional Workstation are not much different in actual use. The 395 is an AI chip, not a gaming chip. Yes, but tell that to the manufacturers. They are struggling to sell them now. If you call it an AI chip, no one will buy it. No one will buy it. In fact, AIPC is a false proposition. Very few people need AIPC. Do you need AIPC? Does anyone here need AIPC? No one needs it. Since no one needs it, the processors are manufactured, but they still have to be sold. So there must be a reason. So they are put into, for example, Tianxuan, into gaming laptops, into GPT Win 5, and called gaming processors. That's how it's done. If you call it an AI processor, the problem is that no one needs an AI processor. Now it's for consumers. Maybe data centers need it, large enterprises need it. What do consumers need an AI processor for? They don't need it. So in the end, you still have to sell it. Since everyone doesn't recognize AI processors, but you still have to sell them, what can you do? You can only put a gaming selling point on it, right? Playing games. In fact, I think playing games is also a false proposition. I can spend less money to configure a machine with a standard voltage processor and a 5060 graphics card. The power consumption is similar to yours, right? The price is cheaper, and the performance is stronger. Its performance might only be 3060 or 4060. So what's the point of this 395? There's no point. What can you compare it to? There's no point. You find that buying a 5060 machine is cheaper and stronger. This SDI says that frequency and temperature are manipulated in benchmarks. The article claims to be hardcore. Come and fight if you don't agree. Fight who? Who are you? Who do you think you are? Brother, you're still very impressive. This brother is still very impressive. I think one point is that I always say that people shouldn't take themselves too seriously. Don't think you're amazing. I always think we're not amazing. We're not that amazing. But looking at you, you seem quite amazing. Time slows down. Is the 10GHz stunt or an accident? I guess it might have triggered some protection during overclocking, causing the time to slow down. The video explained it. The system time was slowed down by half. This way, all your scores will be doubled. Windows has never seen such a big scene. Honestly, that machine is indeed not suitable for installing normal Windows. At that time, for overclocking, we used the LTSC system. We used the LTSC system for overclocking. So this is a very useful trick. We learned it from Tony. Because LTSC is relatively lightweight, it doesn't have anything in it. There are not too many services. If you want to overclock normally, you still have to turn off many services. Before overclocking, you still have to turn off some services before benchmarking. LTSC is relatively lighter. How to maintain focus? There's nothing to maintain focus about. We just make videos normally. What focus? Will Zhonglu go to G Force Now? Why would it go to G Force Now? This game can be driven by chords. It doesn't need G Force Now at all. Over-optimization is not good. But you're just overclocking, just to get a score. Does it matter if it's good or not? It doesn't matter. It's just for the score. What generation of Snapdragon is equivalent to 8 Gen 2 in Yunfei's eyes? What do you mean by "masterpiece"? I don't understand what you mean by "masterpiece." 8 Gen 2 is indeed good, but why is it called a masterpiece? I don't quite understand your meaning. The DIY circle feels like it's dying. It's hopeless. Because no new hardware is released, right? New hardware is always either a rehash or from previous generations. There's no new hardware for old things. So it's normal for it to be dying. It's too normal. What phone looks good for over 5000 yuan in Yunfei's opinion? You've reviewed so many that you're tired, and you still don't know what to choose. Then buy an iPhone. I recommend an iPhone 17. Don't choose anymore. Okay? Let's stop babbling. You've looked for so long and still don't know what to buy. iPhone 17. It's almost New Year. It's almost New Year. What's wrong? I didn't understand. Many bullet comments say Pig King is streaming on Douyin. Yes, it seems Pig King often streams on Douyin. We are still on Bilibili. Bilibili's audience is very interesting. The bullet comments are so many that I can't keep up. Will tablet batteries be upgraded to 18,000 mAh or even 20,000 mAh this year? I think it's too much, but I don't know if it will be meaningful. It feels like at a certain point, battery life for tablets is so good that it's not that impressive anymore. For phones, I feel it's quite impressive because phones are always on standby, always in use, always connected to 5G. For tablets, when you're not watching videos, you put them away. They don't need to be used. They don't even need to be connected to the internet all the time. This device is not that power-hungry. I feel like for gaming laptops, should I buy a Lenovo with 16GB and upgrade to 32GB, or buy an HP with 32GB? Lenovo's 7-8 thousand yuan machines can't directly buy 32GB. Buying 32GB now is very expensive. The price of upgrading to 32GB is not cheap. Look at your. My understanding is that machines of the same positioning, for example, Y9000X, Y9000P, compared to HP's high-end machines, the price difference might not be large. But if you want to say Lenovo upgraded to 32GB, if you compare it to HP's cheaper machines, then you first need to clarify the positioning. Are the machines you're buying from these two brands in the same positioning? They might not even be in the same positioning. What's your evaluation of Red Bull's recent moves? Is the championship stable this year? Does Fa have a chance? Will Leclerc reach 50,000 career wins? Who will be strong or weak in F1 this year? The first race hasn't even started yet. Who knows? If we look at the performance in the pre-season, then Mercedes might be back this year. So it's hard to say. I feel like for F1, you have to wait until they start racing to know. It's still a suspense. Yunfei, is there a solution for the 9070XT driver crash? The 9070XT driver crashed. This 70XT driver crash made me angry. Later, I switched to a 5070 Ti. Okay. Honestly, I used to adjust drivers when using RDNA2. The 6700XT was adjusted. I haven't had a driver crash with the 9070XT, but I have encountered RDNA2 driver crashes. So I feel like this is not unprecedented. So if you feel very uncomfortable and it's very inconvenient, you can switch to a 5070 Ti. Anyway, selling it and switching is also okay. Yunfei, when will the AI vs. AN war end? The AN war now seems like if it's not done before the New Year, it will definitely be after the New Year. We made a version before the New Year and sent it back for revision because it wasn't good enough. There are many meanings that were not expressed correctly, and it felt problematic, so it was sent back for revision. This video will probably be released after the New Year, as soon as possible. The AN documentary is already done, it's just not good. It's being redone. Maybe 76% of the storyboards have been rewritten, all redone. Will the AN war and GTA 6 compete to see who drags longer? It will definitely be released before GTA 6. Don't worry about it. Is it necessary to use a colorimeter to calibrate the monitor for playing FPS games? I think it's fine. It depends on the person. Some people think the screen color display should be accurate and so on. If you also need to do some work, then it should be good. Then you can do it. But if you're just playing games, I think it's fine. For handheld SoCs, should all power be given to the general-purpose units to run games and upscaling, or should some power be allocated to AI units for upscaling? The problem is that upscaling is more efficient if done by the GPU itself. If you let the AI, for example, the NPU, do it, it needs the GPU to work. Then the GPU and NPU need to communicate directly. Secondly, memory access also needs to be open. This is actually very troublesome and not very efficient. So the current popular practice in the industry is to build it within the GPU. For example, Intel has Xe cores, and Nvidia has Tensor cores. These are acceleration circuits within the GPU. This is not an NPU. It's equivalent to completing the work within the GPU, which is more convenient. If you hand it over to the NPU, it's like two companies communicating. It will be more troublesome. It's much more troublesome than communication between departments within the same company. Will there be a large-screen phone this year? Yes, there will be. Yes, there will be. Will the iQOO 15 be able to compete with the Red Magic 11 Pro Plus? I think it should be able to. But the problem is that this is only for media machines. How it will be for retail machines, we will only know after we buy it. We have actually bought the retail machine now. I think the biggest problem is not whether it can compete with Red Magic, but that it's too expensive. The point of the iQOO Ultra is that can a performance flagship really charge so much? This is a very awkward question. People will think that performance is something that should be done well, right? When you charge so much money, what's the difference between it and the cheaper 8 Gen 2 flagships? What reason is there to buy it and not others? This is a big problem. How can a performance flagship command a premium? It's hard to command a premium. My understanding is unless you do it extremely well. Honestly, not many phones are done extremely well now. Like Red Magic, it's still quite extreme. But I'll give you an example. I remember Black Shark made a 3 Pro or some other generation with physical shoulder buttons. Now all these so-called gaming phones with shoulder buttons are touch-sensitive shoulder buttons. There are no physical shoulder buttons. But I remember Black Shark made one with physical shoulder buttons. That kind of thing is quite. If you really want me to pay a premium, I'm willing. For example, if you play Peacekeeper Elite and use that as a controller, it's a physical button. It's a microswitch inside. I'm willing to use that. This can command a premium. But if it's just performance scheduling, people will think this is something that should be done well. This is the fundamental of making a good performance phone. It's not worth a premium. So I feel it's difficult. For example, if you build a semiconductor cooling system directly into the phone, that's also impressive. Although I think it's unrealistic in terms of power consumption, doing something like that, at least if you sell it at a higher price, I feel people might accept it. If you make a very. If you make an Ultra-positioned machine and sell it at an Ultra price, but in reality, it looks no different from a flagship costing three or four thousand yuan, and it performs no differently. Then people won't buy it. I feel that's the case. Many high-wattage power supplies now use 16A plugs. Is it safe and stable to use a transfer adapter for a socket panel that doesn't have a native socket? Transfer adapters are really fine. It doesn't matter. It's not important. Honestly, these power supplies are 16A power supplies. Their correct usage is to use a transfer adapter. They won't really let you plug it into an air conditioner socket. This condition is too harsh. Don't worry too much about this. Whether it's safe or not depends on the manufacturer of the socket panel. Just buy a good socket panel. This S1 says that the R3 I3 level of laptops is meaningless. The R3 I3 level is equivalent to Intel 5, or even worse. That product should be equivalent to the Pentium positioning before. It's not a question of meaning. There are always new 3000 yuan laptops on the market. They still have to be sold, right? It's not that manufacturers will stop selling new machines or stop selling low-end machines. They only sell high-end ones, right? There are always people who can't afford high-end ones. There are always people who need 3000 yuan laptops, right? So they make new, low-cost CPUs. It's normal. They are just used in cheaper machines. Cheaper machines still have a market. How about upgrading from Mi 14 to a phone with better imaging and battery life? If you have Xiaomi ecosystem, choose the X200 Pro Max. Wait for the Xiaomi 17 Pro. You want to switch from Xiaomi to Xiaomi. I think that's good. Then switch. Xiaomi to Xiaomi. No problem. How do you evaluate the ASUS Aurora Ultra? We haven't received this machine for review. And I see that the Aurora Ultra is not cheap. Isn't it selling for 16,000 or 17,000 yuan? I remember the launch price was not cheap. Will there be a review? Probably not, because we haven't received it for review yet. For the best picture quality, is it better to use L-model DLAA or other model settings? If you're pursuing picture quality, L-model DLAA is good, but its performance consumption is very high. This is for you if you have a 5090 and you really don't care about frame rates. Then you can use it. L-model DLAA itself doesn't have much meaning. Because for DLAA's ultra-high native resolution picture quality, new model optimizations don't really do anything related to picture quality. It mainly optimizes for ultra-low resolutions, such as ultra-performance modes, right? It optimizes for the picture quality of the ultra-performance mode. When you use DLAA, using the L-model will not bring any improvement. So I don't recommend doing this. It's meaningless. Just use normal DLAA. Is the 2nm process upgrade significant? You'll know when it's released. It's too early to talk about it now. How is Samsung's system? I think One UI 8 is okay. Although it still lags behind domestic flagships, One UI 8 is usable. One UI 7, I think it's unusable. The system is too laggy. I don't know how it's optimized. It's super laggy. One UI 8 is at least a usable system. The improvement in smoothness is quite significant. What is the integrated graphics performance of the lowest-spec Tensor or Lake processor? Are you talking about the 4x1? The 4x1 should be similar to the integrated graphics of Meteor Lake, similar to the integrated graphics of the 185H era. It's usable, but probably not very strong. That's the situation. What is the level of Kirin X90 compared to Apple's M series? Single-core A12Z, multi-core M2/M3. In some aspects, it can reach M3 level. This is in the best-case scenario. Multi-core is actually good. M2/M3 performance is already very strong. But single-core is a bit weak. The single-core is indeed a bit. There's nothing to be done. The frequency is also low, only around 2.something GHz. The main thing is that the chip's performance being strong or weak doesn't matter much. Because you can't tell the difference in the system. The system is very smooth. With this performance, it's still very smooth. There are no particularly demanding applications that can fully utilize this performance. How do you see the X2600? Let's wait until it's released. We'll test it and see. After all, it's a 2nm chip. We still want to know what's going on. Let's see if it can compete with Qualcomm then. This says that if it's not 9300, is it all big cores? Why does Zhonglu require two big cores? Is the performance still not enough? Zhonglu has this arrangement. It's suitable for two big cores. That one is all big cores, but it's not called two big cores. The X4 in 9300 and the current ultra core are not the same. They are not the same. Compared to the 925 and the ultra core, they are still a bit different. But the 9300 performs okay. We tested it, and Zhonglu on 9300 and 9400 is basically the same. The 9400 is not stronger than the 9300. This is also because the core arrangement of the 9400 is more unreasonable. Right? One 925 plus three X4s. And it's a small X4. The small X4 doesn't have the performance of the large X4 in 9300. In fact, the bottleneck might be the small X4. This leads to no performance difference between 9300 and 9400 in Zhonglu. How many more years can a 14650HX with a 4060 graphics card last? I feel that the performance improvement of current gaming laptops has slowed down. So the lifespan of your current gaming laptop will be longer. A 4060 laptop, used for three to five years, I think it should be completely fine. After three to five years, it will be the 60 series, or even the 70 series. Who knows if it will be released. Maybe the 70 series will be released in five years. Maybe the 70 series will be much stronger than the 60 series. I feel it will be at most 50% stronger than the current 60 series. It won't be that much different. Anyway, I feel you can use the 60 series for a very long time. Why isn't Pensil Lake used on desktop and mobile? Sharing production lines is better than Meteor Lake with a rebrand, right? The point is that the desktop core is an HX core. It's not the current Pensil Lake HX system. Because Pensil Lake CH cannot be made on a larger scale. It's designed for such a small scale. There is a fundamental difference. For example, its cost will be higher. Using a more advanced process, why will the cost be higher? For example, it needs to integrate the functions of PCH into its SOC tile. Right? What was originally the southbridge or PCH is integrated into the chip. If it's an HX processor, which is a mobile HX gaming laptop or a desktop processor, then this is implemented by the chipset. It doesn't need to transfer this cost to the CPU. For desktop, you don't need such a highly integrated processor, and the requirements for desktop are different from mobile. Mobile requires ultra-long battery life, right? And minimize peripheral power consumption. So many things are not done. If you need to do it on a desktop, then your focus will be on increasing the frequency, being able to increase the frequency, being able to overclock, and focusing on these aspects. So they are completely different. So it's impossible to put Pensil Lake on a desktop. It's not the same category of product at all. It's not applicable. How do you see the XPS 16 with only 35W power release? Is it a bit outrageous? I've actually looked at their XPS mold this year. Their logic is this: their logic is that they are moving towards the LG Gram direction. What logic? My 14-inch laptop and my 16-inch laptop use the same components. It's just that the 16-inch has a larger screen. There will be no difference inside. This is the logic of LG Gram. XPS is now also moving towards this logic. I think this is also magical. How to say it? It depends on your purpose for buying this laptop. For example, if your purpose for buying this laptop is a large-screen laptop that is portable, then buying this rebrand might be useful. But if you want a high-performance, lightweight, all-around, high-performance workstation,
那这个就非常拉了,所以我是觉得对这个事情比较嫌弃的。那可能对你来说,14寸那个会,它会正常很多,因为16寸那个实际上就是基于14寸那个变过来。那是16寸这个,我印象里没记错的话,他连电池大小都跟14寸一样,他直接用了14寸的电池,就只是拉皮拉大。他就是觉得说,我可以只是屏幕变大,别的都一样,这样的话你的重量也不会增加多少。
说云飞为啥,这个已经聊过了。说听说飘哥最近开赛车去了,会出节目吗?他的节目一般都是在别的频道上,他不会在我们极客湾的频道上面做的。赛车的东西很少,除非是给的太多了,恰饭商单给的太多了,要不然不会在我们频道上发。
说叉200 pro和叉300不看芯片,屏幕大小和电池,这俩综合谁好一点?你芯片、屏幕大小和电池,手机最重要的三样东西,完了你全都不看?我靠,那你看啥?你看拍照?拍照的话还真不好说,我觉得可能叉300拍照还会更好一点,因为一个很重要的点就是现在拍照的差距,就是影像的手机的差距是在算法上的。那算法这个东西是随着迭代更新的,那你叉300的算法一定是比叉200系列更先进的,这个没得说。所以算法这件事儿就确实是拍照来说,它肯定是优势会更大一点。但是我觉得其他方面可能芯片、屏幕和电池,这属于都是手机的重中之重,你怎么能不看呢?你肯定得看啊,这属于是你买一个手机你必须得看的东西,属于是。
Macbook air的性能释放极限大概是什么场景?夏天会不会像太iPhone一样遇到过热?Macbook air永远在过热,但是它的所谓永远在过热的意思是他从来都是按需提供性能,它就不会给你跑到满,就这么个逻辑。所以你也不用担心,就是苹果和苹果他们的研发的这个逻辑是什么呢?是你看你用我的Macbook air它卡吗?它不卡,对吧?任务能完成么?能完成。性能也够用,不会说这个太慢。然后你热热吗?也不热,因为我压根就没有给你散出来的热,你给我隔在了里面了。所以不热,你感觉不到热,对吧?用户感觉不到热。那你看你既不卡又不热,续航还好,完了还没噪音,这不是很完美吗?你根本就不需要考虑这个什么性能释放的问题的。就是我哪怕降了频,没有任何性能释放,我一样能完成这个任务,你也不会觉得卡,因为macOS的这个系统它也不会让你觉得卡,然后这个M系芯片性能也够,它也不会让你觉得卡,对吧?这种情况下你为什么还要考虑性能释放呢?就是你有一个性能强大的一个处理器在那儿,就算降了频还是比对x86的那些要强。那你说为什么还要考虑性能释放呢?就这么个问题。
我觉得我觉得也挺对的。云飞用Mac one给了game,为什么不直接用远程软件说这样可行吗?用远程也可以,其实我也干过这个Mac远程,比如Power set到一个PC然后跑这个game,其实也是可以的。但是反正我就这么跟你讲,我玩电脑很大一部分是在玩机器,就不一定是说就玩游戏本身也是要玩的,但是玩机器的过程对我来说没有那么痛苦,还能让我了解这个东西,所以我愿意去折腾。Cross over就是我愿意在这个Mac本地运行game。所以就是,你要知道玩机器也是一个很重要的事儿,对我来说硬件本身软包括软件,对吧?了解Mac现在的这个兼容性的情况对我来说也是很重要的,所以 I还是会选择在本地玩。那对你来说,你想用Party远程连接,那当然也很好。其实有一个问题是,比如说我要出差,对吧?那飞机上你就没法远程连接,那你必须得本地。所以你还是得把这个游戏拉下来,你还是得在这个Cross over里面去搭这个环境你再去玩。所以这个也是就因为有这么一个流程,有这么个习惯,所以也对我来说也是稍微对于这个Mac转移游戏这件事能多点了解。
17小米17 Pro圈还是等叉300 O圈?我觉得你可以等叉300 O圈,这个等等差300,我一下反正也等不了太久了,你可以等。挺好的。
飞机上完改了给你?不是,如果你是做商务舱的话,完全是可行的。反正戴着耳机又没有人知道你在玩game,对吧?坐经济舱的话可能会有点尴尬,周围的人能看见你。但反正你如果玩的是那种没有H的话,其实也,就是你只要玩的不是那种特别特别不好意思的游戏,那可能都还好。
呃,未来同一个公司AI成为自己的软件的统一入口是不是趋势?现在APP太多了。我觉得是我觉得算是这个算,因为现在大家都在聊AI,那像比如你阿里系或者腾讯系,他肯定有自己的一套AI的东西,对吧?他肯定会尽可能的同一家的软件都去调用自己家的AI,所以我感觉这个应该是一个趋势。也没毛病。
阿里垄断夸克?我觉得夸克也是个很离谱的东西,就是我不说AI,AI可能还挺好用的,但是它的那个网盘如果你不买会员的话,它甚至还没有百度网盘好用。好,我现在发现很多那个时候,就是之前的那个就二三年还是22年的时候,很多网上的资源都是传到夸克或者是阿里阿里网盘的。完了那个那个时候好像还是免费还是怎么样,还是送送那个网盘空间的,送会员的。现在这些东西没了之后,这个东西你发现那些资源还是那还是用的这个夸克,但是你必须得买会员才行,你不买会员,你你你完全下不了。
88VIP是吧?那也可以,如果你正好有88VIP的话,那倒是还行。
千问送奶茶会成为下一个豆包手机吗?光是送奶茶我倒是觉得不至于,光是送奶茶还好。
几个网盘都把软件做出了资源管理器,浏览器杂七杂八的这个东西,我实话说国内网盘这一块真的不如这个国际平台,真的是不如国际平台一毛。你比如说我在海外的下资源基本上就是mega drive,完了mega的话它免费的,你不用注册会员,它也有下载的名额,就是他他他是而且不限你速的,基本上不太限速的。当然就是如果你你并行的下很多东西,然后完了这个还是会触发它的那个上限的,触发它的阈值的,但是你基本上临时找到一个资源,你下来的话真的还好,就他他不太限你速,所以我我觉得这个真的要比国内这帮要好用太多了。
每天五个G是吧?那反正你就临时下一些简单的资源什么的,其实也够用,也都还好。
说要是附近有机械革命和联想售后店,推荐买基格还是联想的?我觉得你怎么说呢,联想售后确实还不错,但反正基格的话售后,我觉得可能及格会遇到的就是品控上面之前会遇到一些问题,比如说它会有电感抽奖,就是说你用的是不同的元器件,就同一个SKU的机器用不同的元器件。当然这个我感觉好像每家其实都应该都会有。除此之外,除了做工的问题之外,我觉得都,就现在其实及格的机器竞争力还是比较强的。
说一加和真我怎么平衡?定位怎么变?我觉得现在没有什么明确的定位了。一加也是低人一等的,真我的话都不说低人一等,我都已经有点听不见声音了,还在出一些机器,但是就是没有太大的声量。那你说这个还有什么定位不定位的事儿?我感觉这两家现在都差不多,就难兄难弟,反正,就给大哥让路,反正就给大哥让路。
再说M2 Pro的Macbook Pro性能放在现在是什么水平?还能再站多久1万?那二手Macbook Pro还有推荐吗?M2 Pro Macbook还行,M2 Pro不算过时,还是挺强的,现在能用一段时间。主要是Mac上我觉得也能吃掉你性能的,让你觉得不够用的软件没有那么多。
为什么买手机都推荐买最新的,不推荐上一代旗舰?也没有不推荐上一代旗舰,我觉得上一代旗舰也好,但是上一代旗舰面临的问题就是它的电池容量会比现在的新机要小,因为今年的就应该说去年这一年的电池技术的发展非常的迅猛,所以其实你能买到很多的新机,它的这个电池容量要比上一代大很多,这个是新机的一个优势,去年新机的优势。
测爱酷15RHR为什么不和win比较一下呢?因为这是上手体验,大哥如果是横屏的话,我们再比较。上手体验的话跟谁比就不是我们说了算的。讲道理。
呃,小米17 Pro Max和iPhone 17标准版怎么推荐?这个17 Pro Max和iPhone 17标准版,这真的不是,这完全不是一个手机,这完全不是一类手机。这显然是要看看你对吧?看你这个你倾向于用iPhone吗?如果说你你你觉得iPhone是可以接受的话,那你买iPhone。你如果说觉得安卓端你会更喜欢一点,那你就买这个小米呗。这是这取决于你喜欢哪一个。iPhone的话,17 Pro Max肯定它的散热没有像这个大超大杯那么好啊,完了它的这个摄像头少一个。那.就是取决于你看你怎么看待这个问题。
SC说听说NV要出ARM架构CPU了,还要搞won ARM的PC云飞觉得怎么样?怎么样?等到他出来再说。我的理解就是ARM的兼容性问题还是客观存在的。那么老黄加入能改变些什么呢?我觉得就是改变也许能改变游戏生态,ARM的游戏生态老黄可能还真能说得动,这个还真真是老黄是有这本事的。但是这玩意儿他卖多少钱是个问题。如果他做到50几0的性能,但是卖的没有五零几零便宜的话,那我为什么不买一个x86加独显的机器呢?这个还是老生常谈的问题,就跟那个AI Max 395为什么卖不出去一样的,就是性价比必须打得过独显的机器,它才能够说就是它它才能够真的立足,对吧?如果你说我出一个高性能的样本,它性价比打不过x86的机器,那那你说人家凭什么买你ARM的机器呢?对吧?
SC说想问一下云飞,既然储存和CPU GPU都是半导体芯片,储存涨价会不会让代工厂把产能从其他芯片挪给储存?其他芯片也涨价?储存的产线跟其他的半导体产线是不一样。你的半导体产线就是到底要造些什么,是在建厂的时候就规划好的,它不是说我可以把储存的产能转去,比如说我把芯片的产能转去储存,不存在这种转法的。或者说我把这个储存的产能转去内存,也不存在这种转法的。就是你你你要这么转,你是要投入投入大的成本去更新机台,去做大的RD的这个投入的,要做大的包括这个机器的投入,对吧?所以这个其实是很麻烦的一件事,并不是你想的那么简单,他不是说有这个储存的需求大了,那我都去造储存就完事了,并不是这样的。对,它一般都是新建厂房,就扩产,都是扩产。
周末的那期视频里有测过红魔11 Pro吗?我们没测。其实我们测了,但是没放,因为没有什么参考性。那个十几瓦功耗,你说你实际就人家都是56瓦释放的机器,你来个十几瓦,那你说你这准吗?对吧?一点不准,你只能给那些买虹膜的人看啊,这有什么意义呢?
这个就说NS半代升级性能会有提升吗?一般来说半代升级不会提升性能的,就是能效会有提升,能效会有提升,但是这个性能应该是不会有提升的。但我跟你讲,这个就是刚刚那个SC讲说会不会芯片的产能挪去做内存,会导致芯片涨价?这个事情并不是说产能能挪去做内存导致涨价,但是它内存缺短缺确实会导致其他的需要内存的配套芯片涨价的。就是因为反正我也卖不出去,那不如涨价把我的利润给补回来,就这个逻辑。就变成反正我也卖不出去,对吧?就是我我如果是to B的业务的话,那这种情况下反正你一样要买我的,你你总归是要买我的,对吧?完了,你你你现在有内存短缺在那儿,你这个买了我芯片你也干不了。在这种情况下,你那你我给你涨点价你也得买,无可厚非,就这个意思。就是我涨了价,反正也不愁卖,因为反正内存也短缺,就这么个情况。所以这种情况就是很无奈的,就很无奈的。
今年iPhone 17 Pro系列的散热提升大吗?提升很大,17 Pro系列的散热是历史之最,应该说是啊,iPhone历史上第一次对在散热上这么花功夫,你可以这么说。
春节前还有几条视频没播?其实真正大的片儿应该能发,就是保证能发出来的,其实也就这个叫什么大横屏,手机大横屏。其他的都是没法保证发出来的,因为做很多的都是有点问题,完了进度拖延了,或者是做的有点问题需要回炉的。反正没有那么快,真的完全能发出来的,就是保证能发出来,也就是一个手机大横屏,别的片都是随缘。
CPU的命名会变得简洁一点,现在太乱了。我觉得不会,命名这个事情就是营销部门的事儿了,感觉就是老是在换名字,这几家厂商就天天在换名字,记都记不住太正常了。
萧山T4什么水平?怎么开始聊机场了?我们我们作为极客数码博主的直播间,一定得聊机场是吧?萧山是我去过的全国数一数二烂的机场,这就是很金玉其外败絮其中。我觉得杭州这个城市就是金玉其外败絮其中,我作为一个全国去了好多地方了,我觉得杭州真的是一个金玉其外败絮其中的地方。然后完了萧山机场这个典型案例就是它特别大,然后就装修的非常的豪华,然后里面看起来很高科技,但是它的最基础的就是动线设计做的非常的烂。你去值个机坐航班,整个路线走你好半天,然后你要到达出这个机场去坐车也要去好半天,就是整个动线你从你从你下飞机到坐上车可能要40分钟,就真的是逆天级动线设计,贼离谱。我说我在虹桥,我可能只要15分钟,十分钟就到了,如果如果不坐摆渡车的话,可能五分钟就从下飞机到出虹桥机场五分钟时间我可能就已经上地铁了,对吧?当然如果说百度车会慢一点,但也不用40分钟。萧山简直就是我全国去过的最在这一块最离谱的机场了。
保安还没萧山离谱?我觉得萧山更离谱。那保安也挺离谱的,保安也是一个特别大的机场,但是我我觉得保安可能也.没办法,就是深圳的那个流量太大了。我倒是觉得保安可能他的问题是在于这个机场的这个就是密集恐惧症,这个设计比较的不舒服,我每一次去宝安机场就不敢朝天花板看,这太恐怖,一个全是洞,我也不知道设计这个机场的人是怎么想的,这个很恐怖。但是除此之外,保安就是有点走的有点多,但反正还是没有萧山多。萧山太恐怖了,真的是在全国在这一块最恐怖的机场,反正。
浦东和白云滑行滑三四十分钟?浦东是很拉,我一直都在吐槽浦东,我就我就讲虹桥好,普普通通,虹桥好,鸿蒙鸿蒙鸿蒙智行鸿蒙智行,鸿蒙智行的意思就是虹桥机场好,出行去虹桥机场,是这个意思,懂了吧?上海出行请去虹桥机场,这叫鸿蒙智行。这个首都也是太久了,首首都还好。首都我觉得问题在于什么?就是两个航站楼离得太远了,我.有一次从T3转T2坐那个摆渡车,给我坐傻了,我靠,他坐了可能快半个小时,就开车要半个小时,从T3到T2就首都机场这个问题很很恐怖。但是其实首都机场的T2有点老,然后T3的话倒是还好,就两个航站楼本身我倒是觉得都还好。T2除了有点老之外,别的都还行。T2东航那个休息室也是还不错,它有着我觉得全国东航最好吃的牛肉面,那个那个还不错。T3的话,虽然说这个感觉有点能逛的地方太少,T3属于是一个感觉过去很多店都闭店的一个地方,但是他至少不用走太远,就也相比国内某些机场比较,比如跟浦东比的话,我觉得还算好啊,这毕竟T3那个规模没有像普通扩建那么恐怖。很多别的这个航班都给推到大兴去了,所以.我感觉北京整体的体验还没有那么糟糕,还行。
说云飞觉得ARM和x86哪个是PC的未来?感觉现在x86又越来越像ARM了。x86和ARM哪个是PC的未来呢?我是觉得两家两个会分至而为,分而治之。就是Intel AMD它不倒闭,x86永远都能够保持现在的这个势头。但是ARM会是一个新兴势力,会有不断的有ARM去蚕食这两家的份额。但我觉得一定是并行的,就像苹果的Mac和Windows本,这么多年下来了也没见谁把谁给吞了,对吧?Mac倒是这两年做的好了起来了,它蚕食了一些Windows的份额,但是也不代表说大家选电脑时候就必选Mac,对吧?这还是会根据需求来选对吧?打游戏可能会选Windows,对吧?这个如果是创作者或者是做开发的程序员可能会买Mac,这个可能是还是看你的需求,看产品,看厂商的它的这个发力点是在哪里,对吧?所以这个从来都不会我觉得说是谁替代谁的关系,应该还是要并行很长一段时间的。
说想要一个续航好的,轻薄能满分辨率打滑的笔记本。358H还是258V?不是你要满分辨率,达瓦这两个和弦应该都够。358会更强一点,但是反正都应该都可以,应该都可以。2258V应该也是能达瓦应该,这个没有任何问题。但是看价格,老机器降价应该会便宜一些。358可能普遍性能更强,但是258V我感觉Luna Lake的机器可能还是会便宜一些。
说请问自选选择自主NAS和购买成品NAS体验和价格差别多大?自组需要折腾多长时间?其实我有一个观点,买NAS就是为了成品。当然这个观点可能是我自己的观点,可能是不成熟的。但是我.的出发点就是我觉得买NAS就是为了买产品系统的。你如果自主上有服务器下有PC,就PC本身你也可以开SMB,它它你开了SMB PC就是个服务器,它也能当NAS用,对吧?往上组我可以组这个文件服务器,就是文件服务器,对吧?我也不需要NAS,我觉得那是自主没有意义的。他他的买的很大一部分的这个价格就是花在服务上,花在软件上的,不就是为了方便吗?对吧?我这是我的观点,我是这么想的。
SC说有后要是晶体管堆叠成熟了,会不会在SOC上堆叠缓存?再叠内存?就不用外置接口?那你是不是在找POP封装?有没有种可能现在的手机的POP封装就是这么干的呢?现在的手机它就是在SOC上叠内存的。至于说你要点缓存,可是缓存它的就是缓存的优势就是在于低延迟快速访问,它因为就在CPU的核旁边,CPU核心的旁边,所以缓存可以快速访问。如果你再叠在上面的话,这种就你POP封装的延迟肯定比你坐在同一个袋里面要高,所以它肯定是不如你就是直接做在袋里面的,对吧?如果你是说内存的话,那现在手机就是这么干的,这就是POP封装,一个SOC在下面一个内存在上面,这就是POP封装。所有手机都是这么干的,你能报上名的手机处理器全都是这么干的。
36是不是会差一点呢?散热肯定是会差一点,但是手机的处理器发热,它的常时功耗的设定就是在五瓦左右。那么呃手机厂商认为我既然常识设定在5瓦的话,我不需要在散热上特别去优化,他觉得无所谓,反正你的瓶颈也不在我处理器的这点导热上。它的瓶手机散热的瓶颈是在热容上的,就整个手机系统它的总散热面积太小了,它的热容太小了,所以没有办法排掉热量。这没有,因为没有主动散热,没有风扇,而且现在就算是内置风扇那些机器,它那个风扇也还是相对比较小的,就是它它的那个风扇还是比较小,他没有办法真的排多少风。所以在这种情况下你的热容是你的整个平这个系统的瓶颈,所以你导热做的再好,其实导不出什么热,没什么意义的。你导出去了,它也留在可上,留在电池上,留在你的军热板上,有用吗?它热量不还是在那儿吗?也没吹掉,对吧?坐在一个袋子上是很不划算的,因为这样的就是你像内存这种内存颗粒这种东西,它没有必要用这么先进的工艺,就是我就你哪怕是HBM的那些,这个就是你会看到他们的那个封装,对吧?包括就他他其实还是一片基板上面封了好几个内存颗粒,然后中间封了一个大袋或者是几个大袋,对吧?就是你如果把缓存做的很大的话,就是你意思是想让缓存替代内存的,那这样的话成本会非常高,因为缓存其实很占面积。这些东西如果你用先进工艺去这个去做的话,成本会很高。对于芯片来说,面积就是成本,面积就等于成本,你面积越大成本越大,对吧?那我尽量的把这些东西off load去,不要用最先进的工艺去噪,那个成本会更低,对吧?
外置风扇?
说285K和9950X3D选哪个?平时打3A有建模有限元仿真需求。实话说多核性能上还真半斤八两。如果是游戏性能的话,那9950X3D在拐对了核心的情况下是吊打8285K的。但是也要看你玩什么,如果你玩的3A他不吃CPU,那实话说也没什么区别。3A你如果不是网游,你这个就是对于CPU的帧对帧率要求没那么高,然后CPU不是很吃CPU那可能你用这两个U最后跑出来结果不会有太大区别的。
AI退潮能反哺移动设备吗?我首先是这个有你有两个问题,首先AI我觉得退不了潮,就是现在的AI构成了新的基础,哪怕退潮这个东西上了高山,然后会下来,但是他永远下不到之前那个低点,退不了潮。其次是它也反哺不了移动设备,因为移动设备它也不会用HBM显存,他也不会用HBM内存。HBM的成本太高了,它的优势就是带宽大,延迟可能比较低,但这东西对于移动端来说,他们没有这个需求。移动端的性能瓶颈也不完全在这个上面,而且就是你你在这个上面去投钱的这个提升,其实是很不划,就是很划不来的。就非常划不来。如果我造出了一个性能很强的处理器,我我我现在可以拿那个就是我我现在发现一个很好的一个案例,负面案例就是AI Max 395,这是一个用来拿来赌所有的键盘,这个键盘玩家的嘴的一个很好的负面案例,就是我我一看有键盘玩家出来,觉得我某某堆料能够达到最好的性能,我就拿AI Max 395来堵你的嘴,你看一个猛猛堆料的什么都最顶的一个芯片,最后的结局是什么?对吧?就是它会卖的巨贵无比,然后就没有人买,就是这个道理。你希望你的手机卖到2万块钱,你希望你的手机用上HBM那一层,然后卖到2万块,这个你要考虑成本。
SC说M5和M4区别大不大?对于Macbook Air来说,等新款还是老款?买老款现在Mac能轻度游戏了吗?Mac我觉得评判Mac游戏不能叫轻度重度,应该叫兼不兼容。比如说你如果玩的主要是网游,是需要反作弊的那些东西的话,我觉得Mac能玩的概率不高。其实很多的二游也会有这个问题的,比如说像那个周末的,他不是用腾讯S的反作弊,那这种情况下,中国弟现在在Mac上就玩不了,因为它的反作弊系统不会让你跑得了这个东西,你就很麻烦,又跑不了这个。所以如果说你是要玩那些有反作弊系统的游戏的话,Mac上面能玩的概率还是比较低的。但如果是玩单机3A的话,Steam那些游戏的话,就真的就是比如说3A大作什么的,就不用这个反作弊的话,那个Mac能玩的列表已经非常丰富了,还好,真的还好。基本上主流引擎的Unity的虚幻,包括很多自家引擎的一些3A的游戏,很多都能玩。这个其实兼容性已经有非常大的进步,相比以前来说。所以我是觉得这个游戏这个事儿就不能叫轻度重度,在Mac上就不分轻度重,不存在说轻度能玩,重度不能玩,不是的。其实实际上反而是重度能玩,轻度很多不一定能玩,因为轻度的很多是网游,然后还有很多是引擎比较奇怪的游戏,然后他可能反而玩不了。重度的都是,比如说你用虚幻引擎的游戏Unity或者说是用像你就是甚至像2077那些是有原生支持的,那个反而都能玩,反而重度的能玩的比较多一点。Mac现在是这么个情况。
主播去年3月份安卓不是说只在大版本应用更新发源代码,是不是会加速厂商自研戏?可是现在的安卓的这些就是终端版本,就这些国内的安卓厂商的版本,本来也不会跟的那么勤快,本来也不会说谷歌那边上了,他直接就上了,这也没有。
讲道理,不关注AK Rider吗?国外爆火AK Rider。我们我们其实有考虑过加在PC的性能评测里,但是首先第一点是PC现在关注的人就没那么多,新品也没那么多,我们也.没那么多能测的机器。其次是AK Rider没法控制变量,他每一局都不一样,完了你都你要怎么去控制变量这个东西?就是这个没法做到控制变量,所以如果无法控制变量的游戏,我们是直接不测的。就跟之前打瓦一样,我们有一次测了瓦,然后被我我被我们的负责测试的同学给拉过来一块参与预测,是的,是需要体就一要一起体验这个艰难险阻,一起体验艰辛,因为瓦的一这个测试非常的恶心,他每一局反正都不一样,完了你如果随到那个地图不对,你直接你你退的话,他还有惩罚,对吧?你惩罚还一段时间还不能玩,然后我们就只能我们我们办了20个QQ号,然后一个个测,就为了测瓦。所以我就测了那一次之后,我这辈子再也不测瓦了,我这辈子不会再测第二次瓦,太太恶心了,就是我我就为了等那个惩罚时间,我就等了好半天,就是为了测这个CPU性能,等那个惩罚时间等了1万年,我靠太恐怖了。所以.我我坚决不测后面。开自定义你得凑凑十个人,你得凑很多人,然后这个也是一个非常麻烦的事情,对吧?就是我们有的时候是一测,就是从头测到晚,或者我们有时间要求,比如说拿到机器只有24个小时可以测,那我神经病,我还在临时拉十个人来打自定义,来来玩这个,这个也搞得也太复杂了,这真真没必要。实话说没必要,这搞搞的搞的就是有这个时间花在更更有价值的事情上。回放不准的,就跟我们现在,比如说我们现在王者荣耀,我们也不测回放了,因为回放真的和你实际玩功耗完全不一样,这个标记就回放这个东西跟就不要不要太当回事儿,这个东西不是很准。
说小白想入坑掌机,什么游戏都玩,NS2还是Steam?实话说,你如果手上还有很多的PC游戏,然后你至今还是一直在玩PC的话,我觉得你可以买这个Steam Deck,因为相当于你一买买回来就有一个很庞大的自己的游戏库,你之前的游戏都在。但你如果说你是想体验老任的那些游戏的话,那你再去考虑NSR,这个买NSR纯粹就是为了第一方游戏去的,我觉得如果不是第一方没什么必要。如果.是NS1,我还会想着说我还可以在这上面玩一点轻量化的游戏或者怎么样的,或者还方便携带,比如说我之前出门我会带那个就是Switch OLED,然后那是个破解机,上面可以超频,可以开金手指,什么都可以干,然后我可能会有一些这种第三方游戏,我虽然有Steam上的,但是我也会选择带这个Switch去玩,因为我觉得比较轻便,续航也比较长。这个相对来说,比如说我潜水员戴夫,我可能那个时候就是在在Switch上面路上玩,因为我觉得比较轻便,带出去还方便一点。但是NS2我感觉就没有这个优势了,因为NS2相比NS重了挺多的,完了续航也不是特别长。如果说你的阵容主要是在PC上的话,那确实没什么必要买NSR。但如果说你想体验老任那些地方的话,那可能可以买。对我其实觉得Switch OLED是一个很棒的机器人,Switch OLED的硬破是一个很棒的机器,我觉得如果说你到现在还没有完Switch的话,你可以去买台Switch OLED的,价格也不贵,完了反正现在这个应该是续航最长的掌机,所以我我我很推荐的,就没玩过Switch可以去买一个,我都不见得说非得推荐你NS2,因为NS2贵很多,非常贵,相比一代的话,所以你可以考虑一下这个。当然这个前提是你你可能比如说你已经有个PC了,那你就作为一个互补,我觉得挺好的。
天玑芯片玩得了模拟器吗?这个天玑的话模拟器的支持会慢几拍,很多模拟器它不会优先去优化马力的驱动,所以这是一个比较大的一个问题。如果你是忙着模拟器去买手机的话,我建议你就看高通好了,你不要去看别的,用不着看这个联发科。
NS2的续航真的太烂了,你如果觉得续航烂的话,那可能是你从OLED换到NSR,那相当的趣味,确实不怎么样。OLED的换到NS二体验是有点糟的。
说今年4月份内存会不会降价?你还这么明确?今年4月份你要能够如此精确的预测内存价格,那我现在早就转发了好吗?想太多了,我觉得明年4月能不能降都是个问题,降也降不了多少是吧?
行,想等M5 Macbook Air,但又担心到时候国补价格退坡。云飞有什么建议呢?你想等,那你就等。果葡这个东西就算,好吧,其实还真是有可能的,因为我可以说有正补,但是苹果不一定能吃上,这个政府的名单里他不一定有苹果。这个事儿就是看你呗,你如果急着想买就买呗,但我估计Mac也确实快了,应该也快了。
长兴那点产能救不了一点产能确实是一个很大的问题,而且就算它产能真的起来了也不见得对价格有这么大的影响,就是它的产能要覆盖到全球三星海力士这帮人的那么大的这个范围的情况下,它才能够产生影响。在我看来。
SC说云飞,我不是很懂笔记本,说分什么商务轻薄换壳的笔记本,我搞不懂晨光和得力哪个更好?不是,你要买笔记本吗?你就应该去看笔评测室了,对吧?这晨光和得力,这个是诸王的擅长的领域了,对吧?讲到这个比八评测是他才比较擅长的这个,你找极客班,你怎么可能懂这个呢?不懂。
9.9块笔记本,比这个比八株王推荐是吧?行,好,挺好。猪王说的都是对的,猪王说的都是好的。国誉的好,但是国誉的贵,跟这帮笔记本比那应该是比较贵了。
双CCD都有叉3D的99950是真的要出了吗?飞哥你记得这件大概率位数?这就是之前一段时间有这个传闻,实际上他确实本来是打算在CES出的,但是现在回炉了,那到底还出不出就不知道了。有可能就不出了,有可能其实有可能不出了,因为PC现在这个市场你出了又怎么样?出了也就是占一个标杆位置,就是我感觉他出这个的也就是为了占个标杆位置,他也不他也不指望卖的。但是AMD现在本来也占着标杆位置,因为你DIYPC这块,Intel难道还有任何的话语权吗?他已经不是已经拉了吗?对吧?AMD都已经占住这个阵地了,那你说我再更进一步的意义是什么呢?也没什么意义。实话说你做这个也不能让你大家觉得你有多牛逼,反正肯定不如9850X3D打游戏好,因为是这样,就哪怕它2个CCD都有叉3D的情况下,你还要面临一个拐CCD的问题,就是游戏的这个线程排放它摆在哪儿,它有没有说跨CCD的这个情况出现,对吧?会不会有跨CCD的延迟?这个也有可能,那你如果是9850X3D你根本就不用担心这个,就不会发生这种事儿,对吧?所以这个肯定是不存在这个问题的。
电压高得高个鸡儿,我靠,这不是有没有一种可能,就是9850X3D的电压有多高,这个99950叉3叉3D2的电压就有多高?你觉得这个多一个CCD难道说我的体质还会变好吗?会因为我多了一个CCD体质,难道还会变好的吗?你动动脑子,大哥,就就有任何可能吗?我操,这开玩笑,我对不对?我就不存在这种事儿了。
我跟你讲这个说英恩卡的稀有的为什么会被砍掉?明明串流很好用,后面会加回来吗?Shield的那个小掌机,我的理解是他卖不出多少量,而且其实Shield的生态位被Switch替代了。NV本来做这么一个产品,它可能主要是为了秀肌肉,他是为了绣它的Tegra,结果现在Tegra的主营业务跑去做车载了,对吧?去做这个自动驾驶了。你说的是串流APP,是什么什么意思?我没听明白嘻嘻有的的那个串流是吗?是那个不是,现在你其实串流你不需要用APP去串流,你本来用Moonlight调用的也是NV Ink,你Moonlight也是调NV Ink,你用Pack不也是调NV Ink?我本来我还以为你说的是那个什么稀有的掌机,神盾掌机那玩意儿最终不是被砍掉了吗?
目前想玩游戏又想要影响怎么办?什么影响?没没听明白啊啊啊,你说以前只需要打开西游的串游就行,现在要下sunshi。那没办法,那没办法,你也可以用这个叫叫什么来着,就是不需要这种的串流,但是Moonlight的话,如果是在iPad上用,确实Moonlight会更方便一点,我是我是感觉确实会比较方便。你像那个Para Sac他就没做这个移动版,你也串不了,那你只能用你只能用电脑串电脑,对吧?
作为数媒专业的学生,很焦虑被AI替代,您怎么看?AI对游戏界的影响会发展成什么样子?应该学什么字?就不是大哥你数媒专业,你还担心被AI替代?这对你来说就是最好的时机,学好好学一下AI,对吧?打不过就加入。我操,AI不就是给你用。我往好的方面想,AI就是给你量身定制的对吧?未来的媒体全是拿AI做的了,那你好好学好AI不就行了吗?我靠,你还焦虑?焦虑个鸡儿。我靠,就这么说,你现在上的课全都是放屁,你.可以直接不用学了,你就直接上网搜教程,对吧?怎么用好AI你你先你先试试看,比如说本地部署的,你可以去学一些对吧?然后像Sora这种,或者说像什么Nano Banana这种做图的,或者是My Journey这种作图,包括Sora这种做视频的,你可以好好去学一下他们的这个原理是什么样的,这迭代怎么样迭代,各自的优势是什么?Prompt怎么写?这Prompt怎么写是很重要的。然后还有一个很关键的就是创意,就是未来AI是大家的工具,AI其实替代的就是现在的Adobe全家桶,那那创意是最重要的,你做还是得人做,你这个Prompt还是得人输的对吧?所以这个东西你得有创意,你得有。那么我我们我举个例子,如果AI做视频,比如说像用Sora做视频,那你学什么东西还是得学呢?比如说你分镜设计你还是得学的对吧?我们现在做用AI做视频,我们还是得给它画分镜的,我们还是得把分镜写好,第一个分镜是什么?第二个分镜是什么?这两个有没有衔接?有没有元素上的衔接?它的景别有没有衔接?镜头的运镜有没有衔接?这你可能还是得学。然后你可以去学一下摄影,学一下摄影摄像,这个可能对于你干这个会有帮助,就摄影摄像的一些基础的东西学会之后,然后你这个AI用的会比较好的话,对吧?不用愁的,这个AI就作为一个工具,学好AI就不会焦虑的,没有什么好焦虑的。其实媒体这一块的就最容易被AI替代的那你还不学AI,那你肯定得学AI,对吧?我的我的我的理解就是这个东西绝对是很重要的。
Prompt已经退环境了是吧?倒也没有,对,也确实你你你用Germany来帮你写一封信也是可以的,对,你也可以用Germany帮你写写Prompt,但是Germany帮你写不代表你就无脑交给他了,你得明白他写出来那些东西是什么意思。比如说你摄影,你还是得学的,你不同焦段的这个镜头拍出来是什么效果,它意味着什么?不同画幅拍出来意味着什么?这个你还是得了解的,不然的话就算写了Prompt,你自己也不知道他写的是啥,对吧?很多东西就是说白了AI是加速工作的工具,但是这个落实到原理上,你还是得知根知底,你得知道他到底在做些什么,你不能就是无脑交给他了。
这个SC说这个主板的两个八片供电,如果只插一个口会影响CPU?如果你是默屏用的话,是其实是不影响的。主板两个八片供电可以只差一个的,是可以只差一个的。末屏用它其实不影响,你只要不要超过单8pin的这个供电上限就行,就比如说你要超频的话,那可能不够。对,但是有一对,有一个是优先的,是的,有一个是优先的,但是可以只插一个。如果你的电源只有这么一个口,比如说你是一个SFX的电源,完了你只有一个八频,那那没办法,那你就只能插一个的话,那那也也可以用,也可以用,能用的。
树莓推荐考公?我觉得考考公看人,考公这个事情我不知道比把考公比喻成刮彩票合不合理,但是或多或少是有点像。但是你实话说现在就业环境,你说你说这个要不要刮彩票呢?对吧?这个事儿也没什么办法,就是属于是既然没路走,那我不如挂个彩票试试,一般是这个形态,反正也行,也挺好的,也是一个路,对吧?也可以去尝试,也是一个可以为之努力的方向,至少比你无所事事要好一点。
SC说都听你们说外星人打游戏好,高端配置拉满,我去超市买了两瓶,怎么还是打不过对面?大哥这个大哥今天是抽象冠军,年度最佳抽象VIP好在哪?我对,我就问你我就问你好在哪儿?这个不如红牛一根,正要喝的时候就不如红牛。
说ROG5090骇客卖多少钱?它功率800瓦,能预测未来6090会破千瓦?我觉得破千瓦的公版卡是不太可能的,但是六是什么?破千瓦的骇客还是有可能的。IOG做这种怪东西也不是第一天的对吧?所以这个也不是没可能。
用AI的都不知道问啥?这么跟你说,用好AI真的很重要,它其实也不难,这东西就是一个基于web的创作工具,对于我们来说就是一个基于web的创作工具,对于你来说也可以是一个基于web的生产力工具。怎么样让这个AI输出正确的prompt,输出你需要的,不是输出正确的这个结果,这个输出你需要的结果,这个事儿实际上说白了就是跟你学习一个比较简易的这种比较可视化的软件的用法也没什么区别,就是你你这个考验的是信息检索能力。在我看来,就是在前AI时代也有有的人同样你给他一个谷歌或者给他一个百度,你给他一个搜索引擎,有的人你就真的能搜出来东西,有的人就是搜半天也搜不到。重点这个确实也是看人的,信息检索能力还是很重要的,确实这个也是你问多了可能也就比较熟悉了,这个问多了之后可能就知道怎么问了,也不是一件很困难的事情。
说这个SC说不得5080S买Pro R9 700当AI推理机的显卡现在还合适吗?我倒是觉得买A卡用来推理其实挺好的,反正如果你是要部署本地AI的话,对你来说你都选A卡了,那一定是时间成本对你来说无所谓的,我说的没错,反正你买A卡,时间成本对你来说无所谓,麻烦一点,但是绝对是能跑的,而且效率不低的,你放心,这个是确实算是一个不错的选择,而且应该是不会有5080S这个东西的了,这没没没这玩意儿。
说M5 Ultra在Macbook Pro上预计最大支持的内存规格会是多少?不是,我现在都不知道有没有M5凹槽,我觉得不会有,我感觉应该不会有M5O叉。不是他他为什么需要一个M5 Ultra的Ultra上一代的Ultra都延期了,这东西规模太大了,以至于它的那个总线有点不好做,实话说。
上手了最新出的GPT5.3 code X了吗?据说很强。现在默认是吗?如果默认是的话,我应该已经用上了,就是我天天都在用GPT,但是我没有在意过它的模型有没有更迭。其实我没有去看这个,我去拿个水喝,上个厕所。
说M5 Max预计内存规格,那应该和M4 Max没什么区别。这个应该是会和M Max差不多的,因为大内存的AI产品的需。这个位置生态位已经有一个M3 Ultra在哪了,所以我觉得M4就M5 Max应该不会在这个方面去做些什么。我们今天聊到12点吗?12点多到嘎了Game时间了吗?没有到嘎了Game时间,我们12点才到Ga Ga M时间,没有那么快。
提前开始吧。行,有什么好提前开始的?起飞时间我的天哪,那确实该起飞了。那那欢迎大家乘坐这个GK叫GK动拐21次航班。现在这一次航班是从上海虹桥机场飞往上海虹桥机场的。好吧,我是本次航班的机长云飞。
行,这不太对。您搭乘的这架飞机是空客最新的A350-900型客机。我们就是在虹桥起飞绕一圈,然后在虹桥降落。就是在最好的机场,对吧?虹蒙。那在最好的虹桥机场起飞,然后在最好的虹桥机场降落。
你还别说,确实虹桥机场真这个真可以叫虹蒙机场,因为它离那个炼秋湖比就比较近。所以其实也不近,也挺远的。但是但如果说你在华为园区,然后要出差的话,你还真得去虹桥机场。所以好像也没毛病,这个好像真没毛病。而且是地铁直达的,17号线直接从头坐到尾,直达的非常好。
这个SC说每次说测试RAM就测评手机后台APP留存能力,RAM的意义就只有后台留存。你知道为什么很多的UP主都测后台留存吗?因为后台留存你测得出,你测别的你根本就测不出。这取决于你能不能测出东西来。你测别的,那你测什么?测它Swap的效率,这你能测出来啥?你啥都测不出来,对吧?就测预加载,就是冷启动热启动这个阈值在哪儿?你测你也测不出个啥。这东西并不是说它就是强相关或者是绝对相关,只是我们只能测出这些东西来,没有别的这个测试,就是没有办法测测这个别的东西。别的测不出,所以这个就没办法,大家都这么测。
北京到上海,云飞选高铁还是选飞机?我肯定是坐飞机的,因为坐飞机好歹可以薅里程。高铁那确实是薅不了什么东西。如果没有里程焦虑的话,确实我觉得坐高铁也挺方便的。高铁就是一个强预期性,就因为它不会基本不会晚点,不会迟到,然后比较强预期性,可以赶上这个就是你开会什么都能赶上。不是你高铁那个分儿,你也不不不算什么,你跟航司那个分没法比。攒够积分你可以兑换票,但是你跟航司没法比。你京沪线那个飞机,你坐个几趟,你基本上就换一张票了。就京沪线换票12000里程,相当于你飞我,我飞一趟中美航班,可能差不多就免费送一张京沪线的票。应该算是。如果是非金非京沪线的话,飞多久是有12000里程?商务舱可能飞不了几次,反正很快的。
就是飞机的这个积分里程,其实还是挺划算的,还真能薅到不少东西。这个你跟高铁那个没法比。云飞是用航司APP订票?一般是吧?要看。用航司APP订票是最划算的。一般来说是飞猪携程,就只是图个方便。如果说是个人出行的话,我一般都是航司的APP。你有有时候如果用平台订票,后面比如说你要你要改签,你要升舱,可能也不是很容易,就挺麻烦的。实话说,尤其是如果你是飞国际航班的话,这个平台订票的这个改签升舱超级麻烦。我还我我这一次马上又要出一个远差,然后买票自己买了一个美联航的票,然后我在这个飞猪上面买。他如果我要改签,改签到后一天要1万块。我说神经病,我这票价都还没多少钱,你怎么改个签要这么贵?完了我回头用那个常思自己的APP去改,然后发现好吧,一下子就几百块。他都不用1万块,他只要几百块。当然,这也有可能是因为我是星空联盟的金卡,所以航司的话他比较认这些东西。如果你是会员的话,他可能改签费什么可以免掉一些什么的。但是反正你在平台你可能就没有这个,就没有这些福利,就很麻烦。
但是好像飞猪也有等级的?飞猪会员应该也会有自己的一些东西。航旅纵横我实话实说,我航旅纵横花用的很少。为什么呢?因为航旅纵横的这个国际航班搞起来很麻烦,还要手动录入,然后什么服务也没有,然后只能说你看个大概。就是国内航班航旅综合还是比较方便的。就坐坐国际航班多的话,其实你的手机里会就不会用航旅纵横那么多,你可能会下一堆各种各样航司的APP。外行的APP,然后东航国航的APP,有可能下一堆就各种航司的APP,就是都是在行航司的APP里直接用的。
Google Flights是很方便。就是我看票我会用Glow flies,就是全球的。就是国际航班的看票我一般是用Google Fly,因为Google Flies可以找到最便宜的那个票价,就挺方便的。我觉得谷歌做的比较好的一个产品了。
这个SC说不玩游戏好,SOC的意义是不是?一发热少,二流畅不卡,三维持流畅不卡的时间长,四续航省电。实话说,流畅不卡这件事情SOC能决定的成分没有那么多的,就是它是一个软硬件结合的东西。SOC唯一能决定流畅不卡在于什么呢?在于说它的调度的细,就是力度细不细。如果说是自研的SOC,比如说像这个苹果的Apple Silicon,它而且它它自家系统的话,iOS系统的话,它可以以一个极细的一个力度去调度这个芯片。它的频率的变化可以是毫秒级的变化,甚至更更快速的变化,对吧?然后响应可以非常的快,就是频率变化响应可以非常的快。那这种情况下可以在你需要性能的时候马上Boost上去,Boost可能甚至可以做到,比如说Boost那么多少毫秒,然后马上下来,就是这么一个情况。就是他可以做到这件事。但如果你用高通芯片,你可能就做不到,因为他可能不开放这么细的权限。你在安卓上你也没法实现这个,这个是软硬件结合的优势。
但是这一点我觉得跟在系统这一块的工作会更多一点。你的OS做的卡不卡,更影响你的流畅度,对吧?如果你都是用815的情况下,安卓的机器其实这个跟芯片其实没有那么大关系。我感觉发热小和续航省电这个肯定还是有关系的,但是也就是你看我们能效曲线,你就知道怎么样了。就是看一个单核能效曲线,看一个多核能效曲线。顶多再看个GPU,GPU其实没那么重要。那你说单多核你一看,其实你大概的情况也能了解了。能效曲线就决定了发热大不大,加上省不省电。这两件事情在能效曲线都能找到,对吧?就能你学会看能效曲线,你就能很明白这个东西了。发热也能看出来,然后能效也能看出来,对吧?性能极限性能也能看出来,然后续航其实也能看出来,就是或多或少也能看出来一个SOC的表现。它是最它其实是最全面的一个东西了,就是你你能看出来很多东西,相当于是。
他说如果调度很差,岂不是也相当于能效不好?对,就是我一直想说的一点是,能效曲线虽然是我认为最重要的东西,但是这个最重要局限于芯片硬件,就局限于芯片本身的设计。实际上如果你把手机看成一个整体,你把PC看成一个整体,一个完整的系统的话,软件的功劳是很大的。就是软件运行效率高不高,驱动,然后软件调度这些影响都是非常大的。甚至于我改变一个算法,就是同样的芯片的情况下,我们假设人类现在被锁死了,科技被锁死了,三体人锁死了我们的科技,我们已经造不出任何新的处理器了。那这种情况下你能够通过软件来迭代,对吧?你能换一个算法或者把屎山代码稍微修改一下,稍微优化一下,然后效率又会高很多。游戏优化就是这么干的。软件优化,开发的优化就是这么干的。这个很都很重要,这个硬件本身也很重要,但是软件也非常重要。这个软件的优化也是很重要的。
国内的航班云飞推荐哪些航司?其实我的看法就是你住哪儿,你从哪儿出发比较多,你就做这个城市的基地航司。就在这个城市有基地的航司就行了,对吧?你比如你在上海出发,那你就坐上这个东航,对吧?坐东航。如果说你是也要看地方,那比如你在成都的或者你在西安的,那可能这个情况会不太一样。你比如说在成都你可能可以坐川航,但是如果说你去上海出差比较多,那你可以坐东航,对吧?那如果你是从西安出发的话,那那你要看你去哪儿比较多了,对吧?你如果是去北京比较多的话,那你就做国航,你去上海比较多,你就做东航,对吧?就看你你去的地方或者你待的地方,就是有这个有没有是在你这儿有基地的,或者说你去的目的地的基地航司,对吧?就是这种可能会比较方便一点。
在我看来,吉祥也不错。吉祥吉祥的情况我觉得是它它的航线比较的杂,就吉祥的航线太过于杂了,就是飞哪个都有。所以我基本上吉祥是作为一个补充。去一些,比如我之前想要从上海直飞东莞,然后好像就只有吉祥是飞东莞还是飞哪来着,我忘了。这已经不记得是飞哪个城市,反正就只有吉祥飞,没有别的地方能飞的。除非我是去深圳,然后深圳坐车过去。那可能我在深圳,惠州,惠州不是东莞,东莞,不对不是,就是惠州。惠州是只有吉祥有航班。然后如果我要我要去惠州的话,不坐吉祥的飞机,我就只能从深圳还是哪儿,还是从广州,反正开车过去或者是打车过去很麻烦。最后我还是选择了坐了这个吉祥的航班过去的,就是惠州。深圳过去也不近,好几个小时开过去开车反正也得开一段的,就挺就是我觉得我觉得肯定不如你在本地的机场方便。本地机场唯一的问题是时间比较的固定,对吧?然后完了航班没那么多。
吉祥飞日本还挺便宜的。我二三年的时候就是去去日本,我确实那个时候还没有,就我那个时候还没有白金的时候,我就是买的吉祥的豪门。现在跑出去找到别的地方去出差,或者是去哪儿,我可能就直接换票了,我就不买了,因为可以直接积分里程可以换票。反正也挺好的。
为什么一堆人对火车和飞机感兴趣?那不都长得一样吗?可是我想说一个问题,那你为什么会对布加迪、兰博基尼和法拉利感兴趣呢?一是可能它很快,二是它很酷,三是它很贵。这三点飞机和火车不都沾吗?你说A350快不快?非常快。A350酷不酷?非常酷。这个A350贵不贵?非常贵。三点都沾。然后你说这个和谐号动车组,他三点都沾吗?也都沾,对吧?和谐号动车组也是很快的,也是很贵的,也是很酷的,对吧?没毛病。就是喜欢飞机和火车的人和喜欢布加迪,喜欢法拉利,喜欢兰博基尼的又有什么区别呢?一种男生对于机械的热爱,对于我觉得这是出于本能的一种热爱,这对于技术,对于高精尖的技术,对于这种机械美的这种向往,对吧?罗科技美学,没没没毛病,没毛病,这挺好的,挺好的。
就是我觉得喜欢飞机,喜欢火车,可能很大程度上是对它的原理也是感兴趣的。就是你去了解了他是怎么工作的,它是怎么实现的。现代的这些尤其是787和A350这种复材式的飞机,它又怎么通过材料上的创新去去实现更高的燃油效率,然后现在这些引擎,新的这些大涵道比的引擎是如何创新如何去提高燃油效率的。这个其实都是很有意思的一些课题。就是你去了解过之后,你就会发现这个东西在技术上面有很多有魅力的地方,让你觉得挺不可思议的。
说云飞你用三星横屏怎么拿?扬声器在左边不会觉得挡?我觉得还好,我不会觉得挡。因为我发现挡了之后,我可能就会让一点出来,然后用着用着现在就有点习惯了。其实就手会主动去让一点给扬声器,就是可能是适应了。我我倒没有觉得这个很困扰。
反正普通人现实中最多就是奥迪A5这种轿跑。普通人能能坐上帝豪都也挺不错的。其实但是不管是个什么车,它的这个技术都是很有意思的。所以我其实就是一直觉得车这个东西真的是为什么能让男生这么喜欢呢?不管你法拉利有法拉利的美,但是你帝豪也有帝豪的美,或者是比如说秦也有秦的美。就是你买一个普通的车,你也可以很爱你的车,然后他也并不是没有技术的,它也是很充满技术含量的,对吧?这个在你如果你真的动手去修车,你了解它的原理,你了解发动机是怎么工作的,你保养的时候去看它的那个悬挂结构,去了解它,你其实也能感受到技术上的或者说机械上的这种美。我感觉,我是觉得男生可能天生就挺喜欢这种东西的,就很少能找到不感兴趣的。
29岁还喜欢遥控车正常?我也喜欢遥控车。我买了一堆车模,我还我还买过RC,但是其实也就是电脑RC还有那种漂移的文车,漂移车小车,但反正我也有玩过这些东西。反正就就也挺有意思的。长长这么大,这个也一样能玩,也不是说只有小孩能玩,对吧?
29岁还喜欢Gala Game正常吗?正常。29岁正是大好青春,大好青春不应该献给你的挚爱,对吧?所以 I改了Game,把你的大好青春献给你的挚爱吗?这就没毛病,这非常的对,这是正确的。
A330-300的体验怎么样?333我觉得就要看航司。反正飞机这个东西乘坐体验怎么样,这个334层看机型,六成看好像是同样是A330,东航的可能还有批次上的不一样。比如说你东航还有那种蓝皮座椅的330特别的破,然后国航还有你知道国航的330还有那种商务舱里面还在用4:3屏幕的,就是超绝古典330。就是你要是做到那种机型,那我觉得商务舱的体验也很糟糕,就是经济舱也就也也很糟糕。但如果说你做到新机型的话,或者装修过的机型的话,翻新过的这个飞机的话,那个体验其实还不错。我做过一次东航翻新,通过的就是呃呃土色座椅的,就是黄土黄色皮座椅的这个330,那个还不错,那个那个装修过就体验挺不错的。甚至于它的商务舱是一二一布局的,还是比较私密性的。东航那个蓝皮的那个330是222布局的,每次坐商务舱旁边一定坐个人,就跟除了能躺之外,这跟大发大沙发也没啥区别,所以也没什么隐私。也不敢玩Gala Game,所以这个就比较的难受。
新版330是不是也不如787?你是说330-900。如果是说330-900的话,其实我觉得相比360,相比787可能最难受的一个点是客舱的那个叫Climate Control,就是客舱环境控制。就比如说你的湿度控制做的没有那么好。新的飞机比如说像787或者350的话,它的客舱它的湿度会控制的比较的舒服,会让你觉得不干,让你觉得比如说你你做你不需要涂润唇膏,你的嘴唇也可以保持一个比较湿润的感觉,然后你的皮肤也不会感觉很难受。如果老飞机的话,就是这种老客舱它它没有这些设施,没有这些比如说加湿的设施。就这些东西的这个仓压,对仓压也不一样,对所以他感觉就不会那么好,他会觉得你你你乘坐的体验会觉得不太舒服。对787和350在这一块是做的最好的。
我觉得尤其难受的是777。777是1个我觉得我做过最干的飞机,就是每一次跨跨洋的777坐十几个小时,我感觉皮肤都快裂开了。所以一定还要带这个比如说保湿保湿乳什么的。我是实话说,我不是一个很讲究的人,我就觉得男生你讲究个啥?对吧?头发也用不着搞的,皮肤也用不着搞的,无所谓的。但是每次坐飞机我还是得带一个保湿乳的,因为真的777太难受了。777坐了十几个小时,皮干的快裂开了,真的特别难受。
国航其实真的很烂。国航尤其是我坐北京飞美国的这种航线,就是国航777。首先硬件特别差,然后其次没有网。我说我一个跨洋航线没有网。如果是晚上睡觉一的飞机,那也就算了。如果是白天的飞机,他太难受了,就坐一天在那干。坐着,那我也只能玩玩Gala Game了,对吧?就特别难受。没网,然后那个飞机也很干,就777也很干,然后国航的这个餐食也很拉。反正啥也啥都不行。国航777飞美国,现在简直是痛苦至极。
39030还出吗?这个就不讲了,都老生常谈,没什么好说的。老黄自己造的SOC就说要上笔记本了。对N一叉,N一叉现在还没数,不知道这东西什么时候出,不知道这东西啥时候会发。主要是我觉得它这个东西要怎么定位也是个问题,轻薄游戏本吗?还是说AI的本儿?它实际上可能会更产品定位上会更接近AI Max 395,对吧?但是AMX395现在也是一个非常的身份混乱的一个产品,都不知道自己姓什么了。PC的Spike 2017单核能效曲线,SOCPK会放的?可能不会放这个东西。SOCPK要放这么多曲线,搞得也挺麻烦的。看吧,到时候看情况。我觉得要放也不是不行,但是我们也统一标准,比如都是主都是基于主板功耗去测,这个也搞得挺麻烦的。
云飞去年8月买的苹果14 Pro贬值一千多了啊呃想换手机?这回收太亏。硬着头皮用半年吗?一年贬值一千多不亏。你不想想安卓这边?我靠,你如果是6600 999的旗舰机,可能过一年4999有吗?2000块至少的。这个我觉得也,这个一千多。那你要那你要回收也行。反正现在17 Pro Max挺好的。你想你想你想要这个换新的话,你换17 Pro Max你回收吗?好了,三星那是真不止。对吧?OV可能是69999跌到4999。三星的话,那他他妈的是从1万块跌到4999。全世界没有哪个手机能跟三星比在这一块上面,这太牛了。我的确实就是三星时代,这三星没竞争力,在国内就没办法。
索尼现在还在造手机吗?好吧,十五岙泉一年打对折都没说话。那是因为十五岙泉是一个本身就很辣的机器。十五岙下哪怕在奥创里都算是大的,所以也没办法,对吧?你看小米十五它就没有跌那么多。就是竞争力这个东西确实你看保值率就一眼就能看出来。这个产品Ultra小米这个15澳门压根一点竞争力没有。哪怕我不说在Ultra这里,在小米的Ultra里都是属于辣的。所以这个也没办法正常的打对折就打对折。
还玩很多游戏都只想玩一周目,有没有推荐会让人想反复玩的大作?多周目的那你要看如果是玩法跟多周目结合的话,那就是尼尔机械纪元。尼尔你可以去玩一下。尼尔这个游戏,它本来就是多周目的游戏,所以你反正你可以去试试。如果你是说多周目选不同的东西会有不同的方向的话,那就是蓝丝,对吧?但是蓝丝可能是两分钟之后的选题了。嘎了Game环节了,那就不太一样了。兰斯十确实是一个很多周很适合多周目的游戏,绝对是多周目之神。十三机兵也是多钟。十三机兵那个不叫多钟,十三机兵那个是多线叙事,那个不能叫多周目。在我看来,而且我甚至觉得十三机兵是那种我非常希望他能把我一周目的脑子给删掉的存在。就是你玩过一周目之后,你会觉得这么好的叙事轨迹,这么好的这个剧本,就我就这我就这么知道了,我就这么震撼到了,好希望再来一次。可惜这个脑子已经知道这个发生了什么了。是这样的,所以它这个是叫叫多线叙事,它不叫多周目。底特律变人这个也是多线叙事。这个可能有点像多种。确实底特律变人算是,但是他他跟尼尔那种又有点不太一样感觉。那个只是不同的分支,就是类似于说这个是视觉,不是互动电影的不同分支。在我看来是啊。
其实我觉得你剧你可以去玩一些剧情很值得回味的一些游戏,也可以是比较长的那种,就是是值得你反复品鉴的。然后这种的话可以去试试。比如说像大表哥2,这个我觉得其实可以来再来一周。因为你在一周末的时候,你可能在游戏前期你不会想到你的队友分别都是什么样的人,或者是他们最后都会怎么样。就是你带着对于队友的新的认知再去玩一遍,感觉其实也不一样。然后你像GTA4,我觉得这种也挺适合多周目的。在发一周目的时候,你可能不会意识到周围的人的每一个人他都是什么样的想法,他们都是什么性格的。在周末的时候,这个事儿就变得很明显了,你都知道了。
死亡搁浅我觉得不太适合多死亡搁浅这种怎么说呢?就是他的它的整个的妙点,就是整个游戏的这个巧妙之处就在于你的你在整个送快递的过程中,逐渐的体会到故事,逐渐的认识队友,逐渐发现真善美,然后意识到就是感受到人性。这种东西多中是没有意义的,你你你已经感动过一次了,你可能也感动不了第二次。反正。
说F1车载的清晰度过曝和色彩问题,有没有可能通过算法和超分解决呢?能可以。而且F1的车载一直在进化。你有没有发现2025年的F1的车载已经比24年有进步了?如果你直接去对比的话,因为它的画幅变得更宽,然后就变得更它的这个视角变得更广,然后它的颜色也做了校准,以及它的比如说这个角度,它的这个画面的晃动角度也做了调整。速度感会更明显。就是你比如你看24年的F1的车载,它的它像是有一个稳定仪一样的,稳定器一样的,它的这个人的视角可能是不变的。但是25年的车展它会随着你的这个,比如说你像赞德福特荷兰的那个大斜坡,你在车载里就能看感觉到它斜了。这个变化还挺大的。就是镜头的这种改进其实一直在改,你你明显看到这个改进的。
苹果时代F1摄像头好像都跟iPhone有关?那不是你那你这个是被苹果的营销给忽悠了,会被营销号的这个吹逼给忽悠了。iPhone只用在了就是只用在了F1电影的一部分场次里,就是用来替代头盔视角的拍摄。然后他也不是直接用iPhone拍,他是把iPhone的摄像头挖出来做成了一个小模块,然后集成在了很窄的拍摄的机位上面。然后他把iPhone的计算的单元数据处理单元,包括怎么跟服务器发,怎么怎么给网络发送的这一部分全部都集成在了它的那个Side Box的地方,就是侧箱就是F2的那个赛车的散热那一块。它集成在那个地方了,那个里面有一块放拍摄用的设备,就是拍摄用的计算的和传输串流的设备。但是主体的拍摄并不完全是用iPhone实现的。它是用了索尼的一个传感器,就是索尼给苹果的,就是索尼给这个F1的摄制组定制了一个CMOS,是一个全画幅的CMOS,然后做做进了一个定制的相机里面。然后这个相机只是一个拍摄的一个机头,然后它是一个稳定有点稳定器,有点像以前Osmo直接带头的那个Osmo叫什么Osmo Roll吗?还是叫什么东西?反正就有点像那个东西。对,有点像威尼斯的那个分体。就它它就是相当于你的这个计算的部分和这个传输的部分全部都在这个车里面。但是我拍摄的部分架在这个车上面,就车的这个就是鼻翼上面,就是这么一个东西。它也是一个全画幅的一个不小的一个相机,然后通过那个来拍你那个甩狙的画面,拍前面,然后啪哒转到后面那个甩狙的画面。就是通过索尼全画幅的定制的摄影机拍的。然后头盔视角是iPhone拍的,就是iPhone的那个CMOS拍的。反正哪怕在那个电影里,也不是所有的镜头都是iPhone拍的。这个有点你有点被忽悠了。
然后FE的转播跟更跟这个没关系的。转播的话这个设备已经用了有段时间了。但是我觉得苹果介入之后,确实可能会把一些影像技术带到F1。这也不是没可能。因为我看之前好像有一个什么东西是全程用iPhone直播的。红牛的新车发布会是小糖iPhone的?全就是它它也不是全程,有的机位是iPhone,然后他会给一个iPhone的那个标,就是收藏iPhone。红牛的那个新车发布会是这个。然后NBA的转播好像是不是现在也有用iPhone拍的镜头,然后也会标收藏iPhone。苹果现在开始跟一些赛事去谈这个合作了,就是说它iPhone这个东西,如果你看到转播的画面里有写的话,那那就是可能是苹果谈下来的这个合作。
SE说136K玩2K最高拉满元神和彩6经常掉帧,我是5080FE要不要换139K?实话说,136K和139K没有什么区别的。139K还会缩肛,136K的频率也已经够高了。139K如果你想让它稳定不缩肛的运行,它的频率也得降到136K那个单核就也不划算。所以我觉得没有你就没有必要换了。你这掉帧要不就是游戏优化问题,要不就是反正跟你的这个处理器我觉得也没关系。136K已经是一个非常强的处理,他不应该掉人,他就不应该掉帧。
1.3伏以下电压是安全的?基本上是安全的。基本上是安全。1.3伏以下对于桌面级处理器来说没什么问题。
嘎了,给你时间了。可是能聊什么?现在也没太多星座能聊的。这个9950X3DV2还会出吗?我觉得不好说,真不好说。X3DVR这个东西反正肯定存在,但是AMD发不发就不知道了。现在的DIY的这个形式它不一定会发。你要说他统治这个口碑,那他已经统治口碑了,对吧?他已经在PCDIY这一块已经是标杆了。你要说他卖货,这玩意儿本来也起不了多少量,而且内存卖这么贵的情况下,怎么都不好卖,对吧?所以我觉得好像没有什么可可讲的。这个就没什么可推出的。
云飞有没有看超时空辉夜姬?我看了,非常棒,非常棒。我觉得超时空辉月姬的这个反转,甚至让我想起了石头门。有没有点这个味儿?这个时空超越时空的反转,天哪,这不就是石头门那一套吗?太棒了,我还挺喜欢的。这个真的很棒。
有没有什么Gala Game?有没有通用?你在说啥?Gala Game就玩就行了。有什么通用流程什么的?没有的。要配合超时空辉月,就要配合小说和摄影机一起看。我当时没有看那么多东西,但是我觉得翻这个方案就是什么都好顶。他的这个剧情也非常的顶,剧情非常好看。然后他的作画也很顶,我的天哪,他那几场打斗太太丝滑了,我都觉得这怎么可能有画得出这种打斗的?太太牛逼了,这太丝滑了,这作画太牛了。然后人设我也挺喜欢的,就这种邻家小妹的感觉,非常棒,是我的菜。反正挺好的,挺棒的。虽然我自己不是百合控,但是因为这个番本身质量非常过硬,所以我也就能接受这个百合。也行,挺好的,反正这个很棒。
雪碧社入驻B站了?收藏级要买吗?雪碧社不是他他不是说要出新作吗?这我都不知道这个星座要做成什么样。但是实话说,那个仓比X叉2的质量非常的高,所以让我觉得他们还是有点本事的。就是不知道这个星座到时候他说要不吃了,不吃任何老本的星座,那不知道这做出来怎么样的。
这个SC说有手机上可以玩的Gala Game吗?不要串流的。手机可以玩的。手机用模拟器手机用模拟器就可以玩,这没毛病。而且有很多其实有很多的就是那种你你如果你如果这个关注相关的论坛的话,有很多的那种整合包什么的,你要是懒得整的话,你直接网上这种资源非常多,你很容易找得到。APK殖装也有,也有也有官方的,也有官方的。你比如说像那个Summer Pockets就有官方的这个iOS版,但是他好像我我印象里他好像iOS版砍掉了,他是不是把乒乓球的部分给砍掉了?还是怎么样的?反正是有一些缩水的。
AI9365可以玩游戏吗?可以可以。这个365其实跟370的差距很小的,不是特别大。这挺好的,这东西就是看价格呗。我觉得这个就是AMD的这个移动端的机器,就是看价格。价格划算,对吧?合适那你可以买。但如果是配独显的话,我觉得比较的糟糕。就是370和365这种任务加任务C的SOC是最不适合配独显的和弦本。我觉得看价格可以考虑独显本。有要是有的选,要要是有的选这个8845或者是英特尔的本的话,就别选这个Strict Point真的很难用。最后你会发现在游戏它就是个四核的处理器,完了还会拐错核,它会拐到35C上面去,然后你就只能悲剧了。只能这个process拉,或者是用那个Windows的那个勾选它的这个相关性,不然你就很难受了。
5999选苹果17还是其他的企业?我觉得5999就是看你呗。就是苹果17这个可以买的机器。但如果说你想要长焦拍照,或者说你想要这个更长续航的手机,那可能安卓这边也有不少选择。这个可能有更好的选择。这取决于你取舍呗,对吧?
5090和D和5090测出区别来了?D和标准90没区别。这真的对于用户来说真的一点区别也没有。但是DV2和D和90还是有区区别的。DV2它砍显存砍的非常狠,流处理器就是哭的也砍了,所以性能也差,然后显存也少。DBR是真的是D中D很很绷不住。可能唯一的优势就是DVR的价格确实要比90便宜一点,因为可能跑AI的人他不会去买DV2,所以DVR没有被炒得很高。这还是一个原价能买的卡,所以它价格要比5090的标准版要便宜很多。这是它的一个优势。你就当它是个5080 Super。
云飞有没有比较长的Gala Game推荐?长的。蓝丝不是你一说长我就想起来莱恩斯,因为蓝丝真的很长。尤其是如果你要全就整就是整部蓝丝从1到10玩完一遍,那绝对是超级长是无敌长。还有比较长的,像我觉得鹰之师也挺长的。鹰之师我也是也是当年干了非常久,但实话说鹰之师不是那么推荐。有这有点太掉书袋了,但是也算是很经典的。如果你说要入坑Gala Game的话,你可能到头来是不得不玩的。FSNFSN也算长,但是也没有鹰之师和蓝丝这么长。FSN我忘了我当时是多久打完的。主要是FSN的女主就这么三个,他没有那么多线,所以虽然说每条线都很长,但是因为人没那么多,所以也还好。也不短,反正也不短。这个FSN也不短,但这这都这我操我这我都玩的,也不知道啥时候玩的了,很早以前玩的了。白二算长的,白二长,但是也没有那么长。我觉得百二的长,我倒是觉得它不无聊。它它虽然都是现实描绘,没有那么多设定,但是他因为写的很细腻,所以看得进去的朋友们,我觉得你应该还是会挺喜欢的。它的日常比较的细腻的。反正我是觉得你要说真的很长,我真的完全觉得很长,其实就是兰斯我还是在疫情期间,20年的时候,在那那段时间是真的没事干的时候,视频也拍不了,然后就在家干,反正也没事儿干,从头扒开眼睛就干完丝,然后干到晚上睡觉一直在改。其实就是蓝色,我当时是以这样一个精神状态玩完了,从一玩到10,真的是神玩玩到时神清气爽。我疫情期间追了很多这种长线的东西,我印象也像那个什么来着,就是刀剑的,就是从从头到尾小说,我是疫情期间追完的,然后那个什么无职转生那个小说,我也是从疫情期间追完的。疫情会让你的时间变得非常的充裕,然后平时你不敢去追的那些很常见的东西,然后你在疫情期间都有机会去看了,就是从头他爬起来就在看东西,看不管是什么小说还是玩Gala Game,反正就看到晚上闭眼就哎,对吧对吧。疫情反正没事儿干,就一直这么搞着。20年的时候来过这么一次,然后22年上海关门的时候又来了这么一次。反正就是那一个月,反正从头到尾我一直在看,忘了是看小说还是在干嘛了,反正就是都是拉长线的那种东西,追了一个月的翻,还是小说,拉长线的那种。
疫情还能休息?真幸福。那不是疫情期间,不是说休不休息,是你必须休息。没工作也没钱给你挣,你知道吗?疫情期间我们唯一接到的商单是vivo的商单。怎么着呢?是vivo的这个小伙伴,他自己自告奋勇做志愿者,然后才进来上海。他是跟着志愿者的这个叫叫什么这个医疗团队进的上海,完了才有机会说能把手机从哪儿带过来,给我们带过来。哇靠,然后我是非常感动,所以那个时候就非常感动的做了一单vivo的商单。要不是那个商单,我们一个月下来,没有任何一个商单直接爆炸,我跟你讲。不能发快递,那个时候啥也没有。这怎么发快递?这个不对,等一下,那个时候快递开没开着?好像快递是开着的,但是为什么没有发快递呢?应该是有个原因的。我我其实也我有点不记得了,为什么没发快递呢?也有可能是快递是限制的,有的东西能发快递,有的东西不能发快递。要人送是吧?就反正有什么原因不能发快递。反正那个时候是啊,快递快不快递不了。没办法,我实际上已经快忘了那个时候到底有没有快递这个事情。我只记得有一段时间是有快递,然后囤了很多东西,我们囤了很多东西,但是好像也确实有没发发不了快递的时候,对也也有我,我已经记忆已经错乱了。删除错误记那也不敢乱说话,我说这个不能乱说话了。但是疫情真的是一个,我我我实话说,就是至少对于我来说,我觉得疫情是一段很特殊的记忆。肯定不是一件好事儿,但是它确实能让我静下心来想一些事儿。如果没有疫情的话,我可能我们可能这个确实也是有些事儿会不太一样,可能不会停下来去想一些问题。
为了这一份情谊,云飞应该至少要用一年。Vivo那也倒也不至于,但是我们现在跟vivo的关系确实很好啊,因为也确实人家在这个疫情期间还是很很给面子的,还是这都不是给面子了,就是很给力的,非常的讲道理,非常的感动。用一天得了,确实可以用一天。赶上历史事件,这肯定也是算是历史事件。但是这个事儿他肯定也不是个好事儿,很多人因为这个事儿失业了,这个也不是个好事。
12点了,嘎啦Game环节什么时候开始?搞了Game环节快了吧?快了。命都没了,命没了也是对吧?这个也是存在这个问题的。但是我觉得可能更现实的问题是失业。我认为失业的这个影响比命没了要严重的。当然,这个是我个人看法,就不代表所有人。如果说你这也得看人,对吧?这个也不一定。但是我确实疫情觉得是影响了很多行业的,这个真的是影响很多行业。
有没有追魔镜?魔镜是什么时候看的了?我靠,上学的时候看的。反正但是也好久以前了,已经是啊。
CES有没有看LG的Gram Pro?猪王就是用这个,我也是用这个。我都没有关注过LG笔记本。你猪王是LG Strong粉,然后他另一个Strafing是日日系笔记本。其实我一直觉得诸王的喜好都特别的小众,所以我就不太把猪王当回事。玩PSP的年代,富士通是因为够奇葩吗?这这就是确实是够奇葩。这确实挺奇葩的。我是觉得朱翱这个喜好挺挺特别的。反正但是有一说一,如果是日系老笔记本的话,90年代的PC其实确实可以聊。我上一次去日本的时候,还看到了那个NEC的笔记本,就是NEC的这种90年代的老笔记本,然后他们在那种中古店里摆的还挺成色还挺好的。你说我要现在在国内收一个这种老的机器,它可能你也很难收到成色特别好的。
我其实说过我说过一个IBM的5160 XT,那个就是国内真的很难找,我最后还是在在一个很神奇的地方找到,说是清华的仓库,就是清华大学在80年代引进过这个机器。这个东西在仓库里面,然后给我收到了一台IBM的最早的PC,就5160 XT。这个是很早期的PC了,83年还是84年。反正就你你要你要买这种东西,这种老古董,你国内那个年代只有学校有,或者是一些这种机构会有,可能私人都没有这种东西的。所以这个还挺挺难的。
如果是出国的话,我有时候会关注一下,不管是美国还是日本。有时候我就去那种中古的店老店里面去看,你能找到一些这种八九十年代的老电脑什么的。确实就是你在国内很难淘到,然后你可能出国,我有时候出国会顺便去淘一下看看。
5100很难收到。我其实真收过,我试着收购5100作为一个作为助手这么多年的老二次元,对吧?凤凰苑银飞,确实这我我我真逃过。这要是真能收到就是超级牛逼的大手办了,对吧?但是我们没成功,就找不到这个机器。真找不到很难收,因为5100太太古老了,这个应该是70年代的PPC了。这只能叫PC吗?应该是5150开始才能叫PC,之前就是这个IBM的这个电脑,它这个5150已经很古老了,你其实很难找到这个。如果我要找一个5150可能还容易一点,就是第一台真正能叫PC的电脑,就是5150那个还容易一点。但是5100是更老,没找不到。反正我是找过的,我真找过,我连日本的那种中古的老市场我都找过,那都没有。
就是你在日本收你比较容易收到的是老的日本厂商做的机器,比如东芝的老的笔记本,还有比如说NEC的老的笔记本,那个还是能收得到的。我一次去他们有好多那种老的二手店,比如他有那个叫Super Bizarre,叫超级大巴扎那个店,叫什么Hobby Off,对,for Hobby Off,就是用日语日式发音叫Hobby Off,对吧?他那个那个店他那个店里面Book Off,对吧?Book Off和Hobby Off那个店里面有有这种老的魔丸,还有老的游戏机,老电脑这些东西有还能找到一些。能找到一些我也找过的,但是你要找IBM的比较难找,那个那个不好找。IBM我觉得美国可能好找一点。但是美国的这些店,就是他藏老机器比较少。实话说没有那么多。美国的话你要买老机器可能在eBay,还有在叫他们叫Facebook Marketplace,他们卖东西就是闲鱼,其实就是我们这的闲鱼线线下面交。他们那个叫Facebook Marketplace,就是Facebook上有一个这种卖货的这种平台。然后他们还有一个Craigslist,Craigslist也是一个这种有点类似于58同城的这种东西,反正也是一个线下面交平台,然后也不光面交,就是万事通平台。反正然后他们就会在这种平台上卖东西,你就你就如果说有幸遇到了的话,这个东西还是能买到一些很牛逼的古董的。但如果说你这个只是正好去看的话,其实不一定能买到太好的东西。我我我其实看到比较好的,像是老iPhone那边比较多一点,就是旧的iPhone 5s,iPhone 4S的那种iPhone能买到。然后这个都是很新的东西了。旧一点能买到什么呢?你可以买到iMac G3,那个还是比较多的,因为毕竟苹果电脑的出货量还是比较大的,然后在美国的话属于是比较普及的东西。然后iMac G3你能买到很多。然后ThinkPad老的一些ThinkPad也能够找到一些,因为那个年代90年代也确实他们会用这个机器。但是你要是再早一点,比如80年代的机器,那这个就要就淘淘起来会比较麻烦了。
麦金卡也有麦金塔,实话说不难买。就跟Apple II这种属于是麦金塔,甚至比Apple II的出货量应该还要再还要更大的。这都不是那么难买的东西。比较难买的是那些稀有的东西,比如苹果做过一个叫Lisa,那个是最早的苹果最早的带这个图形界面的机器,应该是啊。还有什么来着?比如说我们刚刚讲的那个就是5100,这个是找不到,这个真找不到,这个太古老了。我我我还真淘过很多这种乱七八糟的东西,反正有有的还是能找到的。牛顿算是比较好买的。牛顿虽然我感觉当年应该卖的不是很好,但是苹果的东西反正都是出大货的东西,所以牛顿也还是找得到。牛顿我还是买了的,买了两台牛顿。牛顿其实是挺有意思的,这个平板是其实是iPad的爷爷,他也是全世界最早商用ARM处理器的,就大规模商用ARM处理器的消费级的产品,就是93年还是92年的时候,反正就应该93年,好像是反正这个也挺挺牛逼的。
看来现在有必要买个Vision Pro收藏起来?那不见得。我觉得Vision Pro的这个情况可能和牛顿还挺像的,就是放在当年是一个很牛逼的东西,但是它好歹也是有一定出货量的东西,所以我觉得你收藏也没什么用。反正到了30年后,也就是值个几百块的命。
34了,我们到40分就下播,我也不想播太久了。好吧。
微软的Windows 98键盘我没有,但是我我有Windows 95和Windows 98的原盒,中文版的原盒我专门买了一个收藏的。然后Windows 95的那个盒装里面,中文版盒装里面还有微软北京办公室的地址。他有一张黄的保修卡,我虽然我不知道为什么微软的光盘还需要保修,我无法理解这是为什么,但是他给了这样一张联系的小卡片,是一个黄的卡片,里面就写着微软北京办公室的地址,就是说你保修可以把东西寄过去怎么样呢?我觉得也挺奇怪的,我买个光盘我还要保修个啥。但是反正这确实也是那个年代特色,应该说是啊,光盘有寿命的,但是那张95的光盘到现在还能工作,这都30年了,对吧?
现在再要保修,它应该不会给我换了。实话说,98和95哪个是软盘?95是软盘,95是软盘。98是光盘。反正我的盒装是95式软盘,而且它软盘不止一张的,它是好几张软盘,在那个包装里面,它是好几张软盘。软盘能修吗?这个东西得看你的损伤是什么样的损伤。我感觉坏了可不得保修,我估计他也就是给你再换个新的。但是这玩意儿你放到今天他们办公室还有没有都不好说了。好像不存在这个保修的问题了。
咸鱼上装了一堆奇装了一堆装了奇奇怪怪的主板的X server。好吧,说云飞的作息一般是什么样的?作息,我的作息就是晚上两三点睡吧,早上可能十点起,差不多我就这么个作息。可能也要看情况的。如果说第二天不上班,然后正好我前一天又在看什么很就是看什么不得不看完的电影,或者不得不看完的番,不得不打完了游戏,然后我就会拖得很晚睡,因为总归会觉得断掉一下很难受。你看番看到一半,看到最高潮的部分,完了你断掉非得明天再看,这很难受,就睡不着觉了。你打游戏也是你达到剧情最最牛逼的部分,然后完了跟你说你明天再看吧,明天再玩吧,特别难受。所以我就还是会看情况。比如第二天没事儿,我可能会干的晚一点。
超时空辉夜姬看了?我去了,非常棒,我觉得很棒。实话说,这是我看过的动漫电影里都能排在非常前面的,能排翅能排前三的动漫电影了。动画电影就是动漫电影吗?不是动画电影的这个范围就有点宽泛了,迪士尼的再加进来的话就有点多了。但是动漫电影的话,我觉得能排前三了,在我看过的里面。这太牛了。
今年两家的HX处理器还有更新吗?更不了什么新东西,就是它应该也不会换架构,他应该不会换架构。你也不用期待今年的新本会有什么大的创新。上游不换内存价格不掉,你也别想着买到什么好东西,就这么着了,凑合得了。
漏SC了,我又漏了什么SC?请问Q280 Pro和Mate 80选哪个好啊?我觉得华为的机器一定是选Mate的。就是P系列说是影像旗舰,但是基本上最后也会被后来者给追上,被后来的比如说Mate给追上。就是我我的理解是真的还是推荐Mate,这个Mate相对来说是更全能的旗舰,真旗舰。我我我是觉得Mate会更好一点。每年反正最新的平台也是用在Mate上面,更推荐你一点。Mate 80,Mate 80挺好的。
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