The Mechanics of Manifestation (visualization, real faith, & divine partnership)

Nothing has happened since the beginning of time that was not manifested. What did God do? He thought, he spoke and then reality organized itself around him based on his intentions. From then and therefore forward, it's coming from the intention of a man or a woman. The question becomes, where's the intention coming from? Is it coming from God or is it coming from Satan?

At what point does God care? Because Satan really wanted Jesus to die. And he did not know that God wanted that too. He's like, if I don't perform, my wife is going to leave. And what's dangerous is if my wife had not intervened, I would have constructed the narrative where she would have had to leave. If we allow ourselves to begin expecting something, we'll manufacture the evidence so that our brains can be correct.

Jesus is saying, "You'll do greater things than I will do." He was saying we were retrofitted with this ability to do miracles, to manifest, to create things on the earth that didn't exist before. Everything is contingent on us. Most people will spend 3 minutes visualizing something good and 4 hours visualizing something bad and then they're confused. You spend 3 minutes rehearsing the promises of God and then 4 hours rehearsing the promises of Satan, you're manifesting. If you would stop saying what Satan is saying, then he would stop being able to manifest on the earth.

Thoughts are the language of the brain. Emotions are the language of the body. We understand what we believe in our bodies because of our feelings. We're wanting God to plan our way and God's wanting you to plan your way. That's not his job. That's your job. Did Jesus then manifest persecution on all of his disciples by telling them, "You will be persecuted for my name's sake." Was that Jesus manifesting persecution on people unnecessarily? Did Jesus manifest his crucifixion? Everyone wants to get to the high places, but if you want to go high, you first have to go deep.

>> Yo, what's up? Welcome to Deep In. How are you? Great. Doing good. Welcome back, man. What do you mean? You just have a vibe. You're just different. You just feel like you're back on the horse abusing that horse, man. Just riding it. What? What they say in the South? Like rode hard and put up wet.

>> What?

>> In regards to horses,

>> I have never heard that in my whole life.

>> You ride them hard, you put them up wet cuz they're sweaty and stuff.

>> Okay.

>> It's not It's not what you think it is. It's

>> I don't even know how to take it. It's just That's how you know you're riding hard cuz you rode hard and put them up wet. So that's what I welcome back, dude. You're riding hard, putting them up wet.

>> Congrats, man.

>> Congrats, guys. We're going to talk about We're going to talk about manifestation today. It's going to be awesome. It's one of my favorite topics to talk about. Um, and I'm going to take us through uh how how it was designed, how it was work, the how God built it, put it into Adam, and everything through we we'll go into some scripture, but I think this can be relatively heavy on the scientific side.

Well, why is it your one of your favorite things to talk about?

>> Because I like touching and then slaughtering the sacred cows and manifestation is one such

>> for for the Christian market.

>> Um, normal people understand that it's legitimate. There's kind of two camps that you fall into with with the topic of manifestation.

>> One would be like it is it's like David Hawkins or Despensza. It's like a very primal way to create progress in your life and it's well well studied, well respected and it's awesome. And then the other camp only inside the Christian market is like it's demonic. It's a bunch of demons and neither one of those is technically correct or accurate.

>> Um, so I like talking about it because Christians have foregone. They have let their rights go, so to speak, on something because they label it as demonic. But demons do manifest a lot, though. So, they're very good. Satan's a master manifesttor. He's very good at the skill of manifestation.

When I hear manifestation, I think I I have it broken up currently into two parts.

>> Okay.

>> One part is manifestation in terms of a selfish way to get what you want.

>> Okay.

>> Is may maybe how I would normally perceive it. I think I have a little bit of a different view now, but um probably a year ago was more like that, but I still haven't studied it. So, let's just say that's selfish.

>> Um cuz it's something from what I've understood, it's something that you want for yourself.

>> Yeah. Why is that selfish?

>> I guess it's not inherently. It comes down to why you want it.

>> But even the why, like why does that make it selfish?

>> Have you ever been in the mood to like craving a certain food?

>> Yeah,

>> you selfish bastard. Because I wanted something. How selfish, dude. like want a steak.

>> Yeah.

>> Is But then we don't do that.

>> No, that's not No, that's not how we think about it at all.

>> I'm just in the mood for a good steak. No one calls you selfish for that,

>> right?

>> Why do you want a good steak? I don't know. It just sounds good. Well, that's selfish. You're not thinking about serving.

>> Yeah. So, clearly there's a lot of things I don't understand.

>> Yeah. How weird is that? So, there's that's the one side of it. And then the second side is seeing something like a demon or even like the Holy Spirit manifest through somebody which is um something is speaking through or doing something through someone that they could not do in of themselves. Those are the two ways that I have perceived manifestation be and I've kind of separated them out a bit.

Well, yeah, that that's that's true. Like cuz demons don't have the ability to speak. they don't have the ability to create structures on the earth,

>> right?

>> So they they will they will use people to do that. But even the idea of using someone else to do something is typically tracking back to manifestation.

M like manifestation if we just define it is

>> you created something through thought and then you encoded that with belief and intention and then through that process of holding that thought with belief and intention structure was built around it in the natural world.

How would you um how would you see that happen? Like what are people doing and then seeing that happen? What are some of those like either crazy stories or examples or even like ways that you've used it in that way?

>> I use it a lot. Some of it's been healthy, some of it has not been healthy. But like if you look at Joe Despensza, they're going through hospitals and healing kids. They're doing things that Christians should be doing, but we don't have enough faith to do it.

>> Um, that's a good thing. That's a really good

>> use of manifestation. And then crazy people with religious spirits will be like, "Well, that's the demons healing kids." Nope. Demons don't heal kids. They don't like that. That's not how it works. The demons are not necessary to the manifestation process. How many demons were responsible for building the heavens and the earth?

>> Zero.

>> Not that I know of. Like none. I don't think they want that. They weren't even around at that point. Fallen angels. How many fallen angels helped God manifest creation?

>> Zero.

>> None. So this word, what did God do? Bishet. He in the Hebrew he thought then he spoke and then reality sort of organized itself around him based on his intentions what God intended to build.

>> So God was the first one to ever manifest.

>> God was the chief. Yeah. Cuz he which makes sense he invented it so he would be the first to use it. Um, but all creatures that have the ability to think have the ability to manifest but they don't have necessarily legal passage to manifest on the earth. So they have to find a partner and the partner is you and the partner is me and um okay yeah that's why cuz a part of manifestation doesn't require speaking but speaking makes it easier to manifest.

So where do we where do we start going from here?

>> But the point being that the definition is something that you create in your mind.

>> Okay.

>> and then you encode it with belief and intention which we'll talk about both of those today and then reality organizes around it in whatever way that that happens.

So where do you see God telling man to speak things even as early as the Old Testament where he's getting them to either think about something or he's telling them to speak something so that it comes to pass and then that thing comes to pass.

Well, it's not always speaking, but God is constantly asking people to encode a reality that doesn't exist yet with their faith and their intention. According to your faith, may it be done to you. According to your faith. So, this it's not like according to what you see, it's according to your faith. So, the 10 spies and and God gets pissed off. He's you're not seeing the right reality. You're not you're not putting your belief behind what I've told you is going to happen. You're putting it behind what something else has told you is going to happen. So, they didn't like I could say that Joseph and Caleb were able to take what they had in their mind, what they wanted. Well, people will nitpick me on this. They're like, they didn't want it. It wasn't because they wanted it. Really? You're a human being. Would you rather die? You don't think they wanted to live? They definitely wanted it that what God said and what they wanted were the same things in this because they're human beings. So we just we we sterilize the text of scripture because we just don't want accountability. We don't see the humanity in that story. Like they wanted to live. They wanted to take over the promised land and then they were able to encode that with their belief and the 10 spies were not able to do that. So like manifestation is a newer term. So it's not something that they used to say but we would say that that's an inability to manifest something that God wanted done and you couldn't manifest it.

>> And does God come in and override them?

>> Mm-m. So this thing in the in in Christian worldview or if like whatever God wants is what what God will get what God wants. False. False. False. There are many things that God wants. But because of the inability of a man to partner in with it, he's more patient. So he'll wait.

>> Nothing's Everything is contingent on us. Everything. Yikes. Yeah. So, um, sounds like a good thing and a bad like a really bad thing as well. Like really good and really bad. Cuz if we don't get it, then we then we we can probably drop the ball or have a lot less reverence for the ball.

I would say right now in the season of life that the world is in, it's mostly bad. Okay. Most Well, I was I say it's mostly bad. Like I'm not a negative Nancy. I'm a pretty positive person, but

>> when I'm when I see the way that uh I don't know who's responsible for this, bro, but like when I see the way that Christians, specifically Christians, respond to life, it's so much weakness and it's such an inability to take responsibility that I think that this is becoming more problematic. But God's not going to we're not going to change God. We have to change the way that we we act and we respond. And it wasn't always this way. This is this is a good thing. If we can get a grip on how God wants us to actually speak and think and talk, how our minds work, we can get a hold of how we're supposed to operate in the power that we're supposed to operate. It's a good thing. But because it's been so weaponized against the church and against Christians, it's it's not a good thing right now.

>> It's a bad thing because you know like the the if you look at the power structures of the earth and Christians ain't even on the map. Not nowhere. Like sort of maybe a little bit right now with some like you know Christian nationalism stuff, but most most of the wealthy people are not believers. And I made a post yesterday about our venue and somebody was texting in to the text line and you know me dude every every once in a while I will like break my rules and I'll get into like our campaigns and look at comments and stuff and I was seeing this person was like they're so mad that we're charging some money and I made a post about it because I was like don't be this person. This is a bitter Christian who never was taught how to behave and they're mad at us for charging money for a ticket. And I was just like, "If you pay for the venue, then we'll give you a free ticket." And they went ballistic. They're so mad. They're

>> Oh, they responded.

>> They responded. Yeah. Did you see the Yeah. They're really hardcore mad. They're triggered. Um I made a post and there's a lot of people who don't get it. Like they don't they don't understand. They're so there the poverty mentality is so thick inside of the western church and no one has the ability to like acknowledge themselves as a part of the equation. And you can see this by the way on the surface when you can see someone's like super overs. So, somebody like overshaped joins a list or like joins our email list or whatever and the first thing that they say is like all of the Hebrew names of God and all that stuff and it's like, yo, dude, this person is going to be a nightmare because they put so much responsibility on God and none on themselves. And this is a heruristic. I'm blanket judging a whole group of people. I understand that. But what it typically shows is that this person will look anywhere else except for themselves.

>> And it makes it really easy for them to blame God. What's the Proverbs? This says a man ruins his life through his choices then blames God. Well, there we have the Western Christian philosophy. You know, it's like, no, no, God didn't do this to you. You're so dumb. that if God literally put a million dollars in your bank account, you would lose it next weekend. That's that's the problem, you know, and you would be really loud in the process and it would be embarrassing, you know, that's that's the thing we have to wrestle with. And my hope is that maybe over time we can help strengthen up. Like there's a deficiency in how Christians have been trained to think about themselves, their lives, their businesses. And sometimes you just got to acknowledge the you got to eat the hard stuff. You got to eat your breakfast like an adult. Put your pants on. Tie your shoes the right way. Oh, don't pee in the corner. That's what bathrooms are for. Let's grow up and let's be like, you know, I have not applied myself in my whole life. I have taken no responsibility. I've blamed God for everything. And the easiest thing for me to do when I'm presented with hard facts that say that I am inadequate is to quote some random arbitrary verse and blame the person who's better than me. There we go. Congrats. How that's how you become a Western Christian. I'm tired of that. Yeah.

And it's not like all the pastor's fault, but there's some weird the you don't feel like maybe the example's been set well. I don't think it's been set at all. Like I think there were some pastors who are doing it, but you know, they all get cancelceled. Like so it's tough if you're a pastor. It's like what happens if your giving is tied to your just ability to not be offensive.

>> Yeah.

>> you know, and and like if I wanted to gather the most offendable people in the world, I'd put a bunch of Christians in a room. And then if my income is attached to their giving, I'm trapped. So, we have a couple like there's some people that I love like pastors and they'll tell the hard the hard truth, but it's shocking how much hate they get uh because people are like, "Oh, you're not like Jesus. You have pride." No, they just told you that you're fat and you're lazy and you're weak. They told you the truth. There's something here we have to look at. No offense against fat people. I love fat people, too. But, you know, we sort of have a duty to to grow. Yeah, that's a great great point.

What here's what we're going to do. We're going to hit a little bit of just like I'm going to set up some of the the literature on like how this is even possible because manifestation seems like magic and it's not. It's not magical. It's not woo woo. It's pretty scientific. We've done a lot of studies on it. We have actually a lot of data on it. Um we'll get into why manifestation as a template is being uh used both for like the you say the kingdom of light and the kingdom of darkness. Both sides are using it. There's a there's definitely like a a tugof-war going on inside of culture for this and um and how the mind is central to that. So, how the mind actually is responsible for the manifestation that people create in their own lives. We'll kind of we I think we could take a segue in the middle to talk about how like I've experienced some of this as well in my own personal life.

Which would be your favorite? We'll see if you can make me cry.

>> Um,

>> we're going to eventually make our way to energetics

>> we've never talked about on the show.

>> Um, Newtonian science versus more modern bioenergetics.

Well, I think I'm going to pro I might end up getting Oh, we'll save that for energetics.

>> Uh, cuz energetics ties us into elementals,

>> okay,

>> as well. That's where it comes from.

>> Um, and then we'll talk about the psychological manifestation of this and how Satan uses it. And then we'll go through a correction and I'll give everyone homework and they can practice or they can hate. It's up to them. I don't really care.

>> At some point, could we hit the difference between prophecy and manifestation?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah, we can.

>> That one came from Heather.

>> We can totally do that. Let me let me hit some like Newtonian stuff first so we can set up the way that that the brain processes things. We're living through a u like it's not a simulation but the brain thinks it's a simulation. So our lives are I don't believe our lives are a simulation. People have talked about this is like is this a video game?

>> Simulation theory.

>> Yeah. Yeah. We're playing a video game by something more advanced and more advanced species. I don't I don't think so. I'm pretty certain that we're not. But I do think our brains think that we are in a simulation because of how the brain experiences reality. So the brain experiences reality reality holographically. It uh if you study how the right hemispheres work, even the way that our eyes collect information, we're not actually seeing anything that's there. We're sort of making it up. Uh at the Belief Architecture, we did this uh thing where you saw this Coca-Cola canis. Were you there when this happened?

>> Only like the second half of that part

>> and there's like no red in it.

>> Yeah.

>> But everyone sees red. Then you zoom in there's no red. So these we have optical illusions that poke at this it looks red but it's not. When you zoom in it doesn't look red.

>> It's black, white, and green.

>> Not even blue.

>> Nope. You weren't. You must have walked out. You had to leave. I was we I had just gotten back from the doctor appointment. You look it up right now. Just go look up on your phone on Google uh CocaCola red optical illusion. The the point being everything we're looking at is actually a recreation of just like light and energy that we're pulling into the optical nerve system and the optical cortex.

Yo, what? I just What? Dude, I don't know where this kid was during this event, man. Like,

>> what is going on right now? This is Dude, this is so wild, dude. This is freaky.

>> Show it. You have to

>> I'm going to have Yeah, it's already noted. Yeah. What's happening is is you can't you see what you expect to see because it's you don't even see anything. Like you're not seeing anything in there's no there's no way to prove that you're actually seeing real stuff. You're and the reason that they know this is like Ian McGillchrist who has written a lot of the primary source for hemispheric brain hemispheres. He's tunnneled most of this study and he's talked about like what we're doing is we are essentially pulling it in to the right hemisphere and we are sort of manufacturing a projection that then the left hemisphere is reading.

>> Okay.

>> And so based on what we see is our imagination. We're seeing a imagination reconstruction of reality. So if you have programming that you expect to see red, it's going to put that in the projection. What? So you're going to physically see it. And only when you zoom in can you tell that it's not actually there. Then you zoom back out, you have just an expectation effect because you are expecting to see it.

>> I tried to expect green and it's still red.

>> It it doesn't m you don't have a say over that. You can't you can't change try to manifest it.

>> Programming

>> manifesting takes time. You have to take time. So if you could find a way where every Coca-Cola can for the next however many experiences was was blue, then you'd start seeing a different color. You would expect a different a different color. Wild. And this is important because because the the old saying is true that like you don't you don't see the world as it is. You see the world as you are. you're seeing a replica of it. So our brain is sort of running through the simulation because it has to to survive. There's no way the brain can take in every bit of information. The old models, if you look at the reticular activating system and how brains sort of chunk down data, have you seen that big highway in China where it goes from like 50 lanes Yeah. to five?

>> Yeah.

>> So think about it this way where you've got like 50 lanes of data that's being chunked down to 20 lanes. It keeps going for a bit. Then it's being chunked down to 10 lanes and you keep going for a bit and it gets chunked down to four lanes and then one. So you can see that image in your mind. This is a similar effect of how the brain compresses. It's got we've got to compress sensory input so that we don't fry everything and use all of our energy just to like pick apart the pixelation of something that we're seeing. They they used to think that there was 10 to 12 million bits a second hitting sensory input. Princeton University did a study on this. This is old old science. 10 to 12 million bits and only 20 to 50 bits of processing power. So we're having to condense down and eliminate. So we're both creating like condensed packets of information and we're eliminating most of it.

Okay, so this is pretty crazy. The old data is pretty crazy. Caltech just came out with a new study that it's actually closer to a billion bits a second and the brain can actually only process about 10 bits. So it's even worse. It's like even worse. We have no idea like what's going on. But the brain is sort of taking it and it's storing it somewhere and it's filling up this um subconscious repository of data and facts that we don't even remember like we it never hit our consciousness. We never processed it. It's like you know system system two thinking. It just gets stored there. So this is why hypnotism and if you go into like recursive hypnotists, they can find data from a person's life from way a long time ago and they don't ever remember. The brain has it. Like the brain stored it somewhere. We just don't know how to find it.

Does that make sense?

>> Mhm.

>> So like when when you were seven, you had a random Tuesday morning. What did you eat for breakfast on the third Tuesday of the year?

>> Right. I can't remember. No idea. We can't

>> The brain's not going to keep track of like

>> all that stuff or else you would just

>> die. You would sleep all the time and you would just die. You don't have enough energy.

>> Yeah. It' be way too much to pay attention to everything.

>> Yeah. The the mind sort of has a the brain has sort of like a limiter on on energy. So it runs on like 20 watts of power. It's not it's not going to consume all your your available energy. However, if you go into like a deep, you know, theta state, hypnotic, you're sort of like in that realm between realms where you're trance, you're not full fully asleep, you're not fully awake, you're just kind of in this and then you're programmed to find it. The brain can eventually find it if it has the right markers for it. So, we probably can't find the third Tuesday of the year when you were seven because as a seven-year-old, you probably were not conscious of the third Tuesday of the year.

>> You don't know when that was, you know. So, what we would have to do is we would have to find something that your brain does remember. So, a time when you were seven when you thought you were going to die, you know, it's like something like that where the brain's like, "Oh, I remember that. I don't remember the third Tuesday of the of the year because I don't have the I you didn't have the language program to be able to store it that way. But I do remember when I thought I was going to be left at school and no one was going to give me it. So we can find it that way and we can sort of chain our way through. This is how hypnotism sometimes can find memories.

>> Does this make sense?

>> It makes sense. It's crazy but it makes sense.

>> The the body exists as two two things that the body exists for spiritual and science. Spiritually the body is a a sort of identifier for us in terms of our rank.

>> Okay. So when you go if you want to go buy alcohol at a restaurant, they typically they're like, "Can I see your ID?"

>> Yeah. Because they need to make sure that you're of age. You have to have an identifier of your rank, so to speak. Like you can't just there's a rule. There's there's a legality to it. You have to have an ID to prove that you're of age to buy it. In the spirit world, your body is a symbol of that.

>> Physical body.

>> Physical body is a symbol of that because dominion was given to somebody with a body that was very similar like just like this.

>> Mhm.

>> And because the intentions of God were clear, let us make

>> man in our image. What is a man? What's God intended to make? And we are that. And so the whole spiritual world, the earth itself understands that if this person has a body and they have a spirit and a soul and they're permitted to make changes on the earth. This is part of why manifestation is honored as well in the spiritual world. So it is a spir has a spiritual component as well. Think about your iPhone. If you send a text to the wrong person, we've gone through this example before. The iPhone's not like, "Hold on, Jake. Are you sure you want to send that?" That would be amazing if it could read our intentions. But the iPhone can't read our intentions because it's not in the second heaven. In the second heaven though, we have the same things. All creation was programmed with this software. If they have a body, they have a soul, and they have a spirit, they're in charge. That's the program. That's the operating system. So often times we will get what we are afraid of or we will get what we desire. Both of those are expectations. If you desire something and expect it, if you're afraid of something, you expect it. And we're confused because the whole earth and all the energy around us is just programmed to like give this person what they're asking for. And through fear, we actually request a lot.

M. So, one of the things that I'm personally working through right now is like, God, I really don't want to essentially manifest pride in life. And so, what I felt convicted of this morning was to you can't manifest pride.

>> Okay. Why? Why is that not possible? Because pride is not a pride is something that shows up through a belief system. No one has the intention of becoming prideful.

>> Okay.

>> It's something you have to catch earlier than that.

>> Mhm.

>> So, you don't manifest pride. Um, you're experiencing pride as a byproduct of a belief system.

>> Got it.

>> But keep going. I don't mean to

>> No, no. We Let's just stop there. Yeah. There's no point.

>> Yeah. You're not. But what you did manifest. So, let's talk about this. A couple months ago, we were like, you know, we made some changes and you're like, "Well, the show's going to go down." I was like, "Yeah, I felt like the show was going to severely decline because of the changes we were making."

>> But the changes we were making were not that they weren't as significant as what you interpreted.

>> Yeah.

>> From that. But then lo and behold, you see this like effect with just from my expectation, my intention. And you run a lot. You have a significant influence over where we go, what we do, how we do it. And so part of our conversation last week, I was like, "What the heck, dude?" like you just manifested this like regression and it's totally fine. But now you have to now be aware of that in the future. So you're going to get what you expect

>> most often

>> scientifically is this okay

>> Mhm.

>> to keep going.

>> Yeah.

>> Spiritually the body is like a passport or an ID. It's like some legal thing for us. But in the natural the science of it, the body is just an information system. It collects data. That's what the body's for. It collects data. So when you if you study Malcolm Glowwell's work on blink or just hypercompression of like instincts, when you walk into a room and you feel really uncomfortable, have you ever walked into a room and been like, "This room is really weird."

>> Yeah. Oh yeah. Take me through one of the most recent experiences of that or just when you had an experience with somebody that like felt really off.

>> Um, come on. Trying to think of one right now, baby. Do you have any that are coming to mind that I'm not thinking of? Are you just never He never feels off.

>> Oh, okay. I got one. Got one.

>> Okay. Couple weeks ago.

>> Okay. Got it.

>> Take me through the experience. Not names, but just tell me how it happens. Met them and I just looked in their eyes and I was like, there is something weird there. like there's just something off. Like the words that are coming out

>> make sense, but like there is something in their eyes. Like I can look at people's eyes and go, "Yeah, something's really weird here." That's usually how I can I can I've kind of over the years kind of started to prove that a little bit of like

>> yeah,

>> if I look at people's eyes, I can usually tell like what's really going on. Yeah. Not what's really going on, but like just kind of like, do I trust this person at all? Like, do I want to be around them a lot or not?

Okay. So, you had a gut feeling. Something wasn't adding up.

>> Yeah.

>> And your body is the primary collector of that data.

>> So, you're hearing something with your ears, which is part of your body. You're seeing something different with your eyes, which is part of your body. And then when you go to try to reconcile that, there's a part of your brain that is flagging it as like something's not aligned, you know, something's not right. And we think it's energy and really what it is. It's just the body not being able to reconcile different different signals and it it's not necessarily energy. So a lot of people who have a lot of really good data with humans, they think they're really intuitive. Sometimes they are, but sometimes they just have a lot of experience and that's being clocked as intuition. There's a part of your brain that is responsible for storing like and applying the context for threats. It's the hippocampus. And so the more somebody has experienced like what you're talking about, something doesn't add up. This person I've seen somebody with this these eyes before that doesn't I've I've heard somebody say these things that doesn't make sense. You know, your your body's doing all of this in like real time really quickly and it's saying there's this signal here. There's this signal here. I have experience here. I'm going to triangulate this person's wrong. They're off. Something's messed up.

>> This is all happening inside of the brain and then the auditory and the optical inputs.

>> And this is observational not good or bad. Correct.

>> It's not good or bad. It's just cuz it could go wrong. It could it could backfire

>> as well. And indeed it does often times because of the way that like Satan knows and the enemy knows and there are things that happen when a a child is three and five and seven and nine and all this stuff. So their hypoc campus is just filling up with data all the time from a kid and if that data is corrupted or like they go through an experience. This happened with me when I was, you know, nine when I moved to a new new place and didn't have any friends and couldn't get friends cuz I couldn't play kickball and it's like just a nine-year-old trying to figure out and so my my part of my brain is filling up with context and because I can't play the game, I can't have any friends. So boom, now a hippo campus becomes performative. If you want to survive, you must beat everyone. you must play better. And then it fills up again when I'm uh 17, you know, leading worship and I'm cheated on. Well, I'm not good enough. I wasn't good enough then. I'm not good enough now. It happens again. And so what what our brains are doing is they're just collecting data to reinforce uh the meaning that our sensory inputs are giving to us in terms of data. We're going to make this all like make sense. We're pretty deep underwater.

>> I can't wait till we get into the manifestation story of betrayal. Yeah, I manifested so much betrayal.

Um, but I want to set the grounds rules because it's like a lot of manifestation is actually Newtonian. It's it's neurochemical. It's it's not it's not magic. It's not a

>> crazy as we think it is.

>> It's not as crazy, dude, as as we think it is. There's a small sliver of it that is like a little woowoo and spiritual, but most of it's coming from just like, dude, you have a car, you pop in the GPS. That's not woowoo. It's it's using coordinates. So, the mind's got this coordinate GPS system and it comes from our experience in our past. So you can people who have been through really traumatic experiences in the past, you be real careful with this because if all you do is go see a therapist and ruminate over and over on the past, you are going to create that same thing happening to you. It's going to cycle. And you can see a good therapist and but a good therapist is always going to know the line. They're going to be like, "It's time for us to stop talking about this. We need to replace this." We have a lot of bad therapists who are just like, "Tell me how tell me how you feel. Tell me about it. Why did that make you Oh, yeah. That makes sense. Because you went through this. And it's like, well, before you know it, you are now projecting some bad experience in your future because somebody is letting you talk about it all the time.

>> You know what I'm saying?

>> Mhm.

>> Have to go to the bathroom. I just drink so much water. Hey, we'll be right back to the show. Did you know that we have a in-person event for the deep end coming up in May, May 27th in Nashville, Tennessee? We have the Jamie Winship and the Windy Backlands in town, as well as myself and Jake, all for a unique powerhouse event. We're going to be doing this with two of my favorite people to talk to. They they've taught me so much about the way that God thinks, the way that he speaks, and I can't wait to share that with you guys. If you're interested, you can go to deependtv.com/events. You can click the link. you can read some information. This is May 27th. We're going to be spending a couple of hours with you guys. Uh doing some Q&A, including the audience, and just doing some of our live recording setup for the events. If you've never been to an event, they're unbelievable. They're one of my favorite things that we do. And if you have, you know, you should hop on this one. See you. The expectations are coming from your past.

How was that coming back on air? You feel good about that? It was great. is like seamlessly glided back into the episode.

>> I acted like it didn't even happen.

>> I acted like I didn't even go potty potty. Can tell you have a three-year-old right now. This is my three-year-old. There was a the the the reason that that this is important is because all of this is being used in to set up our expectations later in life. So, when people have like an expectation,

>> you're talking about therapy.

>> Yeah, therapy. Okay. But we have we have a lot of therapists. I don't want to offend them all. Um, if you're a therapist, your job is in many parts a lot. So, somebody's got to release the past before they heal from it. Uh, but I see a lot of people playing like just playing fetch with their past. Like they just keep chasing it and it's not not going to work. Your past is is creating your expectations for the future. Um, and this is core and central to the thesis of manifestation because manifestation has expectation and intention built into it. What you expect to get and intend to have, you're going to eventually have because the world is programmed around you to give you what you expect. That comes from God. God created that. That's not some demonic perversion of the system. That's how it

>> was at the very beginning. They did this study um there was a study in 2001 and this was by a Spanish doctor Parkinson's patients. So he took a bunch of Parkinson's patients who have uh Parkinson's they they have dopamine issues and typically dopamine is the molecule that they it's commonly understood as as what makes you like look forward to things in the future. But dopamine also organizes memory and it organizes cell function and it does a lot. all your neurotransmitters do a lot besides just the main thing. And so these patients had chronically low dopamine and he was able to take a control group and they were able to like 3x their dopamine just by believing that they had taken their medication.

>> They make them believe they took the medication.

>> Placebo.

>> Oh, they gave them like fake pills.

>> Fake pills. Um, there are so many studies about this and place is a form of manifestation. So your body is a pharma pharmaceutical grade producer of things that your body needs. like uh when you go to the doctor and you have a doctor who said you know how a doctor will read your MRI to you or whatever they've they basically bedside manner is what you call it but there's a book called the expectation effect and inside the expectation effect they talk about doctors because there's a lot of people who have um lost their lives due to improper diagnosis and like the story I think we told this story one time there was a person in Nashville 20 25 years ago who got broken up with and became severely depressed. And so they prescribed him a uh brand new depression anti-depressant pill, but he was part of a a placebo group to test the viability of the drug. So that's how they tested. They'll give some people the real thing. Thank you. You're the best. We love you. By the way, what I realize is that my my wife just got you that. But it's like by the time this episode's out, we've almost definitely had our baby by now. Isn't that crazy? So people are going to be like, "Oh, you're so be so excited." But like, no, the baby will probably be here by the time this episode's released, and I will probably be at home. So don't pray for great labor at that point. Just pray that we're getting sleep. Good luck. So you got this guy, he's broken up with. He's depressed. He calls the doctor. They give him a test medicine for anti-depressants and it works. He starts getting better. And then he decides one day that he doesn't care anymore. He wants to end his life. So he takes all of the remaining pills from his prescription. Starts to die. Feels his heart palpitations. He's like struggling to breathe, all of these symptoms. He goes to the emergency room. He tells them what happens. They hook him up and they're like, "Yeah, your blood pressure is like ridiculous. You are dying." They can't find the person who prescribed the medication. So, they had to hunt him down cuz they don't find anything in his blood. So, they get in touch with the doctor like, "What happened with this?" And he was like, "He was part of the test group. He overdosed on sugar pills." How embarrassing. So the doctor goes back and they're like they explain it to him. They're like there they you were put placebo group these were sugar pills and over the next hour he has a full recovery and they discharge him. This is the power of like expectations like your body will do your your body will do whatever your mind believes it's supposed to do. Um so they they've trained there's a lot of training if you're a doctor you can corroborate this in like bedside manner. The way that a doctor talks is a biologically active ingredient to the recovery of the patient.

>> Really,

>> if you go in and the doctor's like, "You're probably going to die." Your body will just start shutting down.

>> It'll accept it as true.

>> It accepts it because it expects it. M and so this is how you can imagine how this has been like a heyday for the demonic because if they can just get a Christian to believe that they have disqualified themselves and they believe that cuz that's what some pastor says who was fully possessed by a demon in the middle of church. Demons go into church. They they're fine with church. You can get this person with a platform who starts speaking about the word of God as if it and and manipulating it. And then we can get that into Christians and now they believe they're disqualified. Dude, we the devil cannot kill you. The devil can simply convince you that you should kill yourself and your body will shut yourself down. You will abort your own life, your own destiny if you develop the expectation that God is unhappy with me. God is displeased with me. I have to perform for God to do X, Y, and Z. And this is all by design, bro. It's a genius strategy and it all comes back down to the twisting of this manifestation type topic because what we expect we're eventually going to create in our own lives. And we see this when the same thing happening with you know who can't manifest animals. Animals can't manifest. Insects can't manifest. Trees can't. You have to have all three. You have to have the body, the mind, and the spirit. But a demon or an angel can manifest through an angel.

>> They can manifest through

>> angel can manifest through an animal.

>> You how do you explain uh balam and the donkey?

>> That's not manifestation

>> like manifesting through an animal like talking or speaking through.

>> That's not that's not creating any sort of type of reality. That's not that's not

warping the world around Balum. They don't have Okay. They just don't. You're saying they don't have the correct authority to create a gonna listen to a donkey. This is like not it's that was uh an animal speaking to something else. And I I don't have any in I don't have any stories of demons being able to do that through animals.

I don't think I do either. I mean, the only thing I can think of is when the demons go into the pigs when Jesus tells them to, but that's not the talking.

Uh all I see is Yeah. like the angel of the Lord being able to do that, which makes sense because that's God in most cases. The angel of the Lord in the Old Testament is like, "Oh, there's Jesus. We saw Jesus. So, of course, yeah, that's a different thing."

Yeah. Different thing, but animals typically can't and they're safer because of it in many cases. Um, like animals, one of one of the people I talked to recently, like, this is kind of funny. I'm about to hurt some feelings. No, I'm not. I'm going to be honest with you. Dogs can get separation anxiety. You know what? They can.

Oh, for sure. You get. Yeah. But they don't have trauma the same way that humans have trauma. A dog can't sit in front of a screen and destroy their nervous system. They don't because they can't manifest reality. But they do have memories so they can remember things or else they can't learn. But have we ever talked about that uh zebras don't get ulcers study?

Yes, we did. I think we did finally publish that in an episode. Yes. It's a classic example like they're they're not rekilling themselves every time they think of a but humans have the unique ability because of the way that manifestation works to just completely destroy our entire immune system by reliving and imagining and therefore expecting the same thing over and over and over and this causes severe neurological damage. There's um you have you have different types of stress hormones and cortisol would be one of them. Like stress severe overpresence of stress hormones can kill cells in the in the hippocampus. Well, your hippocampus is responsible for all your context. So when you see somebody who's constantly like ruminating, they're literally deleting cells from the part of the brain that's responsible for them understanding severity and how big of a deal is this and they they can no longer tell. So these are the people who are like the severely freaked out. They have mental issues, mental disorders because they've just spent so much time killing off their hippocampus and they don't really recognize what's true and false anymore. And it will the body sometimes will actually make it worse if the body really believes that you're in threat all of the time cuz you're imagining yourself being in threat all of the time. the body will shut down other things that could be expensive such as digestion, such as reproduction, such as tissue repair, such as immune responses. And so then you have people who are like, "I'm sick all of the time and the devil's after me." No, no, no, no. You're sick all the time because you're ruminating. Your body will not heal you because you keep filling yourself up with the expectation that you're not going to be well. And the body flattens all of the resources. It shuts them down.

This is all because of expectation. Nothing else is is causing this. You know what I mean? So, Yadu, how do you get how do you stay away from the uh the word of faith sound of well, if you didn't if it's not in your life and you just don't have enough faith for it. You just don't have enough faith, man. You just don't you just don't have enough faith that God's not going to give it to you. But some if I can speak from my own experience and what I know is like there's different reasons why God doesn't give things to us. Sometimes it's in our own benefit. Sometimes I would imagine sometimes there's like a covenant. Sometimes like it's better that God doesn't allow you to get the thing that you have faith for. I would imagine because it would destroy you. But then you have people in like the word of faith movement. It's like you just don't have enough faith and that's why you're not seeing your miracle. You know when the person's like they do have a lot of faith. But maybe that is the impossible question. But how do you keep from pendulum swinging to that side of the equation?

Yeah. Everything is, hey man, you just don't like, hey Taylor, you're not rich enough because you just don't have enough faith.

Well, let me, you know, yeah, I totally get it. It's a great question. Let me try to answer that question in my typical like let me restructure the gravity around that question so that the question does not make sense anymore.

Great. Because so it wasn't that good of a question.

No, it was a great question. It was a great question. But I think that the question behind the question is more important. Okay. Why do we need so many miracles? There's a lot of reasons for that. One of one of them could be live in a broken world. So there's things that we we need cuz there's things that are broken. There's sickness that happens. There's different things that are happening. And yeah, I mean there's probably a deeper rooted reason to that, but live in a broken world sometimes that's what it feels like you need or other people need it. I don't really want to chronically be going through like needing desperately needing a miracle.

Mhm. I think that the times in my life when I do need a miracle, one of two things is typically showing up. One, God is giving me new data to learn how to trust him better for when the miracles needs to be bigger. Say it one more time. One option is God is giving me new an opportunity to collect new data to trust him when the miracle will have to be bigger.

Okay, that's one scenario. The other typically for me anecdotally, honestly anecdotally, like I'm not going to point to scripture for this is I wasn't living the way God wanted me to live and I wasn't really following the protocol. I put a bunch of water in my gasoline tank and now I need a miracle because my engine's not working. Not all the times. I'm not saying that because there are people who have sometimes you go through things and Jesus went through things and we read this on the one of the earlier episodes where Jesus is praying to God and God hears him and God's not answering him because it's like Jesus has to go through what he has to go through. But in most cases from my life what I've experienced is I'm either being I'm getting some extra anointing in something and therefore I have to sort of be crushed through it. It's like I can't get it without breaking on this. And so as much as I'm praying, God deliver me from this and I either want him to give me the anointing or I want him to save me from all of the problems. Like you don't get both. But most of the times when when we're like just chronically addicted to like needing miracles, it's cuz we won't grow up. We won't we won't follow God. We won't follow the way that he instructed us to live. You don't need you may not if we did it the right way if and and it's not performative it's just obedience then I think we would need far less miracles than what we currently need and faith to answer your question faith is a equalizer though is still an equalizer so I'm not going to be able to sit here and say like well you didn't have enough faith and therefore you weren't healed but I can say well here's what the data says not even scripture not even spiritual here's the scientific data you got people like growing organs back and people who like how are these kids getting saved was dispensed like there's faith in the equation and what I'm what I'm sort of worried about is right now like the studies on faith architecture the world has way more than the Christians do what what is that faith comes from the Bible right

so we're we're again I think it's a victim sometimes we get into a victim mentality and I think

telling somebody they don't have enough faith sometimes might just be the accurate thing and it's just

sure not politically correct to say That

absolutely absolutely and it it seems like it's pretty commonly abused. Well, what is we have to talk about what is faith? What faith through the context of manifestation and we talked about um the body is an information system. You're collecting information. Then the hippocampus has this historical facet to it which is applying meaning to it. You know, so if somebody says one thing, what does it mean? You're you're using your hippocampus all the time for threat signals especially, but we're saying what does this mean because of experience. So me and you are talking right now. People are listening. They know what we mean because they've learned English. That in of itself is the brain being able to accurately predict what we mean because they learned something in the past to tell them what it means. But what if I raised my daughter to learn that go means stop and stop means go? And then she goes into the world and she's obedient and breaks the rules.

It's not her language capacity that messed up. It's the meaning that she was programmed with.

It's the wrong ones. It's the wrong meanings. So, she gets in trouble and it's not her fault. Enter theology in 2026.

We do not know what God means. We don't know what the word means. We've been taught something weird. We've had this something come up and we learned something that was the wrong lesson. We got into a car wreck and we learned that every vehicle is bad. We have to walk everywhere. No. We go through something in life. We start to do it. We follow God and it doesn't work. So it means that we don't obey God. No. Wrong meaning. So our meanings are constantly having to be retrofitted according to what? The word of God. That's where we have to get it. And that's the neurochemistry and the brain's processing ability to know what something means. So faith, what faith is is faith more than anything else is a prediction. It's the it's the prediction of what's going to happen that has emotional certainty built into it. So you have a lot of faith, my bro, that when you go into your car and you start your car, it's going to start.

Yes. A lot. How do we know that you have a lot? Because you don't even think about it.

Right? The brain just accepts it. So some of the people who are the best at manifestation and the best at holding faith don't even know that they're manifesting cuz it's just like no does just common sense or they're like I'm not manifesting you are manifesting you're manifesting the wrong things in your life but you won't acknowledge it. So the things that are so certain they sort of like run our lives under the subconscious level are the most certain because we're not even going to see it.

If you're super aware that like yeah, I don't have a lot of faith. Well, good. You're halfway there cuz it's like you're looking at it. It's the people who are like, "Yeah, I have a ton of faith." And they're like constantly surrounded by betrayal and bankruptcy, all this stuff. It's like, "No, you you have faith in the wrong things. Hm. We got to fix that. So faith is a prediction. It's a prediction that you won't let go of. It's a prediction with emotional certainty. It's like super charged up with expectation and intention. When you when you send a text.

Mhm. You just expect it to go through. It's like super super hardcoded in. Okay. I have something come up. I want to let's let's hit this. And if I'm looking at the wrong angle, let's just beat it and keep going. But did Jesus then manifest persecution on all of his disciples by telling them, "You will be persecuted for my name's sake?" Was that Jesus manifesting persecution on people unnecessarily? Did Jesus manifest his crucifixion?

Yes. He also the Lord told him it was coming and he was aware of it and so he was not even going to resist it. So he made sure that he got there.

Okay. And then Peter tried to get in the way and Jesus said no.

Who else could have manifested his crucifixion?

Is it possible anybody else could have?

The Pharisees, the Jews.

Mhm. Okay.

They were they were in on it.

They had a they had a part.

They had definitely had a part to play. Absolutely.

Yeah. But I can tell you're still you're still trying to take manifestation and pull it out of the operating system to study it. Like who did this and who did that? Well, when you're driving your car, what's driving the car?

Me.

Technically not. Technically, your steering wheel is.

Yes. You see this ain't like we're trying to Can you pull it apart? Like I don't The steering wheel is driving the car. Like.

you're not well you're not like going and forcing everything to to move. So the system has manifestation built into it. manifestation is everything. So of course Jesus had a part to play in that but so did the people around him. This was why God says he moves the hearts of men like a stream of water. This is the science of how everything exists on the earth. Like everything exists through the intentions of man or woman. Everything starts in an intention. Nothing happens that was not built into the intentions of man or woman. And the question becomes where is the intention coming from? Is it coming from God or is it coming from Satan?

Mhm. And at what point does does God care? Because Satan really wanted Jesus to die. And he did not know that God wanted that too. This is why God's like not somebody you fight with cuz you're going to think that you're scoring a point. Imagine like playing soccer and you score a goal and every time you put it into the goal it goes to the other team and then every time they score a goal it goes to their team. It's like you're never going to win. That's that is Satan's predicament right now. Every time I get this person to do this thing, freaking backfires and it goes to the other team. What do we do? Because the the pinnacle of his moment, you know, was like getting rid of the son of God. And then imagine the dismay of like we just made a giant boo boo. But that's happening all of the time because God's the one that built it. I'm not answering your question, but I'm trying to break the paradigm, you know.

Yeah. I'm wanting to understand it because it sounds like manifestation is everything. And if manifestation is everything, then that means that Jesus bears a lot of responsibility for like at least the way that I'm interpreting it is that he bears a lot of responsibility for what happened to the disciples and he could have manifested it differently. Well, let's if I wish we could get to the disciples and ask them if they're unhappy. Uh, I don't think they are. I think they're very happy.

Absolutely. Um, and I think that they probably I don't think that like Jesus manifested something on them that they didn't like they rejected. They could have rejected it and.

sure Chosen not to.

Um, but what we try we try to answer questions about God with linguistics that are not designed to handle things of God, which is language. We try to ask questions about God with emotional containers that are not complex enough to handle the things of God, and we try to ask questions about God with brains that would literally explode a million times if we could actually get the answer. So there's a there's a level of faith to this in this entire conversation to begin with with realizing that you have to accept the mysteries of why God allows certain things to happen. And if you ever become so obsessed with eradicating the mystery, uh, you'll blow up, you'll explode, you'll self-destruct, you'll become stupid, you'll you'll lose yourself, you'll become insane. There's no way to do it.

And just when people started learning like how energy works in general, they became insane. It was too big for them. It took us 50 years for humans to be able to contain the nuance of of quantum physics. Like, we couldn't we couldn't hold it together. And that's a sliver of God's artistic canvas. Like just a sliver. Like all it is is a piece. So we're constantly discovering these new things about God and we're like, "Wow, that need that needs to change my whole life. What do I do with that?"

Yeah. And manifestation should be one of those things because not nothing has happened since the beginning of time that was not manifested. It was it was coming from the intention of God. And then from then and therefore forward, it's coming from the intention of a man or a woman.

Wow. Okay. And then the longer you manifest a certain train, the stronger that train gets, which is why we have things like trauma and we have things like uh emotional allergies and epigenetic distress. Uh, there was a Swedish study, I don't remember when this was, you'll have to Google it, when someone a group was tested, and over 6 months um their thoughts changed over 7,000 genes through epigenetics going in and turning things on. So like that's dude 7,000 that's like 30 that's like 29 or 30 somewhere. It's like it's a third of the of the gen the the genome and this isn't 6 months just from changing like one piece of behavior and a thought that was attached to it. Um, this is why dude when you study visualization which is a component of v of of manifestation there are studies all over the place you can find like the Russian basketball team where you know the first control group they practice free throws physically and then the second imagined it and practiced 50/50 and then the third didn't practice at all they just imagined it and they had the same level of improvement. There's a study with people doing finger exercises but they didn't actually do them. They just thought about them 35% strength improvement just by thinking about it. Our thoughts are going in like turning on different genetic expressions. And that's manifestation too. Like the very idea that you could like physically die from an expectation is a manifestation. Something that you created from a thought, from an intention. And so the mechanism is real. And and to say that like, oh, it's just demonic. Don't do it. Well, technically you just manifested by saying that because it's not it's in everything like it's the it's the science of how our internal intentions get encoded into reality in real time.

Okay. This would be a great time in my opinion to go into your story of betrayal and like what did it actually look like for you off camera? You said that you have manifested betrayal like crazy. And I'm curious what the story actually looked like, where it started, and then where it started projecting onto your future and like how the components you've taught so far were actually coming to life. Let's get into it. Um, first and foremost, I went to an applied kinesiologist and I we talked about I think we talked about this in the jealousy episode, maybe both of them.

The second episode of Deep Endeavor.

It's crazy. Mhm. We had like 400 views a video. Mhm. That was great. I can say whatever I wanted then.

Since when do you not say whatever you want now?

Yeah, you're right. It's a little bit more of a cost. But um I went to a applied kinesiologist and I grew up in this world a little bit with chiropractors and stuff and um she was telling me some weird stuff and I was kind of like is this is this like familiar spirits or demons or like what is telling her this stuff? And she's like, "No, this is all coming from your body. Like, we're testing your body." And they would do muscle testing and like ask my body questions. And I was pretty shocked that it was accurate at all because I'm pretty like difficult to impress with anything. I just assume that it's going to have to be chemical to make a difference, especially at this time in my life. I hadn't studied like a lot of the the mental stuff. And uh she's like, "Your body remembers when you first experienced stress trauma." I was like, "Internesting. When was it?" And this lady goes, "Third trimester." I was like, "How in the world did I experience that in the third trimester?" Like that was like that would be like your baby right now having like, you know, mental epigenetic stress fractures. Like what what how does that happen? And she's like, "I'll ask your body." Yeah. So she asked my body is like your mom felt like she didn't belong and didn't have what it took to.

when she says ask your body. She means like.

she's testing my body and.

how like your isn't like your hand coming up and there's falling based muscle testing to it but she also did some acupuncture and there's like um like chemicals that you hold in like a vial and just like there's kind of like this whole test setup I guess to get your body like into like chilled state. It wasn't nothing was like hypnotic or or weird. And I don't understand a lot of it cuz I'm not a kinesiologist. Um, but she was testing my body, but she wasn't telling me she wasn't asking me the questions out loud. She was asking me asking them in her head like how is that how does that work? Cuz like if I can't hear the question, how's my body going to know? She's like it's energy. Your body knows. Your body can tell the energy. And so sure enough, she would be like I'm going to ask two questions. Let's test it. And she would test it and my body would respond. And then she'd be like, "I just asked you your body if you were like afraid of money or if you were afraid of rejection." And my body was answering before it heard anything like, "Are you a boy or are you a girl?" Like basic stuff like that was, you know, she was sort of validating it other baselines.

Um, so she's like, "Do you know anything that happened in third trimester?" Like, "No, I have to call my mom." So I called my mom. And she was like, "Oh, yeah." It took her a while where she was kind of like, "Yeah, I was a teacher." And she's like had this freak out moment in the third trimester when she realized like none of the teachers that she was friends with had kids. She's the only one. She's like, "How am I going to do this? I'm not going to be able to work." And this is kind of I mean, you know, same first time moms. I think it's just a normal part. But my mom for whatever reason was like this was a stressful season for I think my mom and dad and money and all of this stuff. And so she was just saying you inherited a lot of this feeling not good enough from that. This was before God took me through inner child therapy when I was nine. This was before I had a lot of my encounters with with God. I was still new or green like trying to figure out, you know, how God talks. Um, I got on the phone maybe like a year later with a a like a crazy prophet like somebody he's down in Atlanta. He has like been in places that like we we I would die if I was like in the middle of winter like walking through like God told him to walk. So he just started walking through this crazy stuff and has seen God do raised people from the dead and like ministered all throughout Europe and different places. Somehow he found himself in Atlanta and um we were we were talking and he said, "God talked so much about you. This morning I booked a call with him. I wanted to talk with him and d I think I have his notes. I've never told you this before."

So do you want me to read you some of his notes?

Yeah. Um, yeah, I don't know. You may have to cut some of this because I'm just going to read. I don't have time to filter. He said, "God said you were created for this specific time to establish the movement and open up a new way of understanding who God is and becoming aware of where the world is going." Now, this was in uh he's never watched the show. He doesn't know anything about.

You never met you before.

Never met him before. I had never talked with him before. Um, I asked him if he knew about the the deep end. He's like like going deep. He didn't know like what I was talking about. So, he knows nothing about me. This was early in 2025. He said, "Uh, you're going to open up a new way of understanding who God is." And uh you were attacked you were attacked in the womb with anxiety, probably somewhere around like 2/ird of the way through. He's never talked to this doctor. He's never seen the deep end. And he said it was it was in order to prevent your birth. The enemy wanted to create rejection and remove you if there was a chance to get you aborted or not born.

which if you know my mom, that wouldn't happen. She wouldn't.

Right. Know that. But that doesn't Sometimes the enemy is just like canvas attack this thing like on the off chance that we can get a stray arrow just through the head like let's let's go for it.

So he said your mom loved you a lot but she didn't know how to love you because she was overwhelmed with the feeling of rejection and couldn't trust herself to take care of you. This is exactly what my body was telling. There's no connection. And I can't stress that. Like sometimes when you're dealing with like prophetic people, dude, just test the hell out of them. Like I'm just being honest. Like te test them. Make sure like did you watch the show? Like are you sure?

At this point. Like do you know my mom?

Um, and so whenever I find people who have no idea, I'm always I'm going to ask them questions to figure out like can I I'm almost trap you. If you're a pro if you're a prophet and you're like borrowing information, I will trap you. Um, he said the day that you were conceived the attachment to your mom was broken immediately as you came out of the womb because she didn't trust herself. And there was fear and conditional uh conditional fear with high expectation. He said, "This is not your mom's fault. This is not your mom's fault." Um, and if you know my mom, you know, like I had such a good mom and such a good upbringing. My mom and my dad are both like heroes. I'll call my mom all the time just be like, you know, Kate is like doing something crazy. Did I do this? Like, so I have a great relationship with my mom. But he said, God gave you the moment you were born a gift. And the gift is called healing. And this encapsulated you. And so he said it was interesting to see because um he said God calls you a stinker. God calls you a stinker. He said he's a stinker. He has the I gave him the gift of healing. Not necessarily healing other people, but he said every night when you go to sleep, something happens and your whole body redevelops. And so there's a lot of people who have cursed you and they're very confused because they can't get anything to stick on you because you go to bed and you're reconfigured and you wake up and the curse that was put on you doesn't exist anymore. And he's telling me all this stuff. I'm like, "What? What are you talking about? He said, "One day I was uh I an angel dragged me through into the spirit. Just grabbed my hand and dragged me and I was just there and it was this dark gloomy place and we're just walking. He's holding my hand and the angel stops in the middle and he said, "Can you see anything?" And he said, "No." And the angel said, "This is exactly how the enemy works. He has no power and no substance. So, he has to convince you that what he has is substantive. And that's what the enemy has tried to do with you. He said you uh you coped as you were growing up because you had this wound of rejection and this feeling that you weren't good enough and so you decided to at the age of six, you learned that people pleasing was a way for you to survive. I don't know what happened when I was six. Um, and he said at when you turned nine, that people pleasing turned to anger. Remember what happened when I was nine?

Mhm. I'm not getting chosen for pick kickball. And I'm like.

you almost said pickle ball.

Huh? You almost said pickle ball.

Kickball. Yeah. Not pickle ball. I was mad cuz somebody else got picked before me. He was fat. I don't know why they picked. So it turned to anger. He's like, this turned to anger. And the anger is actually what God used to keep you alive. M uh he said there have been four times in your life that you should have died but each time God allowed you to become angry so that you would have more passion and the chip on your shoulder was actually used by God to keep you alive because the enemy has tried to kill you four different four different times. And he went on and on and on and on and said, um, he gave me a bunch of stuff and sometimes I'm skipping through some of this stuff, but it's corroborating this other doctor, this other experience. Um, he told me some stuff about the future, but that doesn't matter. The the gist is by the time I was six, I had locked in this expectation that if I didn't please people, I would die or I would lose something. And then when I was nine, it was still people pleasing, but it was a bitter peopleleasing. It was I'm going to prove you wrong, you know.

Yeah. And uh if I don't overperform, then I'm going to experience rejection. So I must always overperform. And so I started to look for things that could be indicative that I was not going to be the the selection the the person. And so when you look at the betrayal that happened when I was 18 with my girlfriend and then when you look at um how everything happened in the church world and then you even look into the the teams that I built, I was always on guard for who was going to betray me and I was manifesting that. I was on guard for that. I was expecting that.

You hadn't even been betrayed yet. You were just looking for it to see if they would.

I was betrayed by, you know, this girl that I that I had dated. Um, but even with Lindsay, I was expecting it. I expected her to cheat.

Cuz you didn't feel like you were good enough for your last girlfriend that she would respect you enough to do that.

Yeah. Something in me was like, I didn't perform good enough, so she picked someone else. Mhm. And then with my wife, I'm not going to be good enough. To the point where you get into like 2020, I think it was 2022, me and Lizzie talked about it where I'm just like, you can leave. Remember that story. I was like, it's Christmas.

2022. And I'm like.

you can leave. I know you want to. Like, what are you talking about? I was like, everyone always leaves.

That was my state. That was what I believed. It's sad. But I knew that I wasn't performing. So I was like, if I don't perform, my wife is going to leave. And what's dangerous is if my wife had not intervened, then I would have probably created the I would have constructed the narrative or the ingredients where she would have had to leave. You know, I would have become someone that she could not see herself with anymore. And this is how manifestation gets a hold of us and expectations get a hold of us because we our brains want to be proven correct so badly that if we allow ourselves to begin expecting something we'll manufacture the evidence so that our brains can be correct. This is the basian brain model taking effect. You have a prediction of the world. Yeah.

Mhm. I have a prediction of the world. It's it's peak pain to have your model invalidated. You just went through this. Mhm. How painful is it to realize like my prediction was not that I had entitlement and even though for 6 months it was sort of soft served to you?

Mhm. Everything was warped. And so in psychology we would call this a distortion. This is a distortion. It's not a blind spot. A blind spot is when you can't see it. A distortion is when it's right in front of you and it's quite obvious and you're distorting it on the way in. And this is the person who can't really be corrected unless there's danger. And so I was creating this and I was betrayed at work and I was betrayed with people and to the point where I thought that my wife was going to betray me. And so I was creating an environment where she wasn't she didn't feel safe. Not physically, of course, but there was no uh your wife is supposed to feel you're like masculine feminine energy like your wife has to your wife will become masculine if you're not creating safety for them in that moment. And when I started getting like wealthy, my fear was that one day I would not perform good enough and then and then it would all go away. And this is the number one fear of the newly appointed rich. Like this is the this is everyone. You have a really good year and you're like, man, I'm crushing it. And then you immediately pivot to like, how do I keep this going? I don't want to lose everything. And that in and of itself is a manifestation because now your reticular activating system is only going to find the ways that you could lose it. And it's going to begin to expect that you're losing it. This is what people don't realize. You're only afraid of the things you expect. If you don't expect it, you're not you're not living in terror of of it. Here, name some common examples for people that they're not thinking of.

Okay. Well, let's first name things you're not afraid of.

Okay. Are you afraid of running out of gas and not being able to find you more gasoline?

No. Are you uh do you ever wake up in the middle of the night petrified that maybe if the sun doesn't come up then agriculture dies and we'll starve to death?

No. Never cross.

Why? Why not? Why?

Just never crosses my mind. I never cross your mind. Are you Did the thought of starting your vehicle make you start sweating? Because if it doesn't, you're stuck.

No.

No. We're not afraid of that. We have no expectation that that's going to happen. Um, have you ever felt anxiety about maybe the finances are going to dry up?

Yes. Okay. If that wasn't possible, you wouldn't fear it, right? And the more you expect it, the more afraid you are of that happening. I remember being stuck in the middle of the FTC. I could not grow. I couldn't go backwards and I couldn't go forwards. And I knew intuitively that like I cannot perform my way out of this. And especially a person like me who is very justice oriented. It's like what did I even do? Like what what are we this isn't even fair. You know, it's interesting to note that the entire time we ran those companies, we were always worried about the FTC.

Really? The whole time she can Yeah. that we were it was on our minds all of all of the time because we wanted to follow the rules and we knew that there were like it's hard there's no book you can read on like you know all of the laws and stuff and how to do everything the right way especially with advertising law it's pretty new and and so we ended up sort that was a manifestation we was afraid of it all the time and it became something that we created in our own experience.

but in the middle of that I knew that if I did not move, I was going to die. If I didn't move, I was going to I had to move but I didn't know what to do and I didn't know where to go because I wasn't allowed to go build a bunch of things. And so in the middle of that I for the first time I had to sit with my expectations. Why do I expect this? If I don't move I'm going to die. Who told me that? What belief system is contributing to me to me believing that? Where did this come from? Well, it came from the third trimester and it came from 6 years old and 9 years old and every time in my life where performance requires movement. So you have to move. You have to earn. You have to you have to climb the ladder. You have to do things. And God's model is very different. And I had never once studied God's model. And so it became a it became a rupture for me. It became something that I had to sit with and and examine why I expected to lose unless I outran it. You're very deep. I'm thinking the temptation here to me is okay. Well, do we all probably have that one experience that we've dealt with and then once you have, do you deal with that experience? It's one and done.

Like, does that experience ever still come up for you now or is it like completely?

Yes. How does it show up now? What do you do with it now in real time?

Do you remember the last time it came up?

Yes. What was it?

Saturday morning.

Okay. What happened?

Usually it shows up when I'm really tired.

That sounds like a secret. Yeah, usually. Can you talk about Do you know why that happens?

Yeah, because you get your core programming revealed when you are exhausted.

Okay. Have you Sorry, I'm asking way too many questions.

Ask you a question. I just got turned on. So, let's just roll with this. Well, okay. Then you have I'm assuming you've probably looked into how to program instincts because you have Jesus at death seconds from death praying for people. That's his instinct. That's not mine. My instinct right now is I'm tired. I'm full survival mode. God, please help me. Help me.

Yeah. So, I'm curious on what happened in the experience, but also how do you retrain the instincts? Maybe leave that part for the end of the story, but like what happened? So, we are going to talk about how to train that, but when you're tired, your core programming is revealed. But my dad used to say growing up, he's like, "Son, when you're tired, everything's a crisis."

Everything is a crisis. And I was like #.

I was like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, makes sense." Um, that's just uh that's like our brain just kind of um it's kind of our brain defaulting to heristics and trying to figure stuff out cuz the the last six, seven weeks, I'll be honest with you, feels like a blur to me. Um, I've been so deep inside of Novos and the projects that I have not really come up for air. And the first time I came up for air was Saturday morning after two days of teaching. And I was just exhausted. I texted my wife. She was in Texas and I was like, I couldn't talk to my wife about it because she was at a retreat and I wanted to honor her and give her her own space in a container. So, normally what I'll do is I'll talk to my wife. I'll talk to God, but I'll also talk to my wife because my wife is basically talking to God sometimes. It's if you know Lindsay, it's like I can't get a hold of Jesus, so I'm going to call Lindsay.

I feel that. Um, I feel that.

she's just always been this way. And but I couldn't talk to her. So I didn't really have a choice. And so I just was like, "God, I got to talk. I feel like I'm wasting my life. I don't understand." Um, and God just said, "Don't worry about it till Monday." Said, "Okay." And so I just said, "Okay, I'm not going to worry about it until Monday. I have Monday. And that that helped. It went away. So, you can talk to God about it, but God will tell you things that don't make sense. Um, when I was in the middle of the of the battle with the FTC, I was like, "What do I do? Go for a walk. Say these three things. I'm safe." Okay. I don't feel safe, but I'll say it now. Say you're protected. Hell no. I'm not protected at all. Look at this. Say it. Okay. I'm protected. And I'm unafraid. Well, I'm not unafraid. Doesn't matter. Say it. Say it. I'm safe. Okay. I'm safe, protected, and unafraid. Say it again. I'm safe, protected, and unafraid. Say it again until I tell you to stop 100 times. Safe, protected, and afraid. Stay, protected, unafraid. It's like that clip I've shown you before the show.

Mhm. Like, if I can breathe, I can think. If I can think, I can win. Breathe, think, win. Like, you're running through these How do you train instincts? You give yourself enough data that your default knee-jerk reaction is that thing. So I said these phrase I said I am safe, protected, unafraid. I said it like 10,000 times. No one understands how many times I said these dumb words like over and over and over and over and over. He said do it on a run. I don't run and say it. So then I'm running. I'm out of breath. I can barely talk. My prefrontal cortex doesn't exist at this point. It's like turned off. We're in fight or flight. I feel like I might die. Keep running. I am safe, protected, and I'm just hauling on these roads. Turns out, you study this and you realize that your brain is most programmable in pain. Sometimes when God wants to program you, he will introduce suffering.

Because the brain is more malleable in suffering than in any other state.

Wow. So, a fast, you're introducing pain into the system. you're very malleable inside of autophagy. Uh, saunas, running, exercising. This is why some of my best moments talking with God were at a gym working out because I'm exhausting myself and there's nothing else for my brain to do. It's got to manage resources appropriately. It doesn't have time to fact check me. It's run out of energy and I just had to do what God was telling me to do. And now it's a little bit easier, but it still shows up when I'm exhausted. When it shows up now, what does it sound like in your head?

Like Saturday, it was like you're wasting your time. I think I've wasted my time. I don't think I've done what you're doing weeks. And.

yeah, it's like I had to, you know, no shame here, but I had to deal with you. And then I had to like do the event. I think people enjoyed it, but I'm not sure. But I know God's happy with it. So like everyone has this and no one's talking about it. No one tells the story. Like no one's real. Like after after a really high moment where you've had a prolonged amount of effort, the biggest fear we have is that I wasted it. I wasted my time. Go to the people at the end of their life. What is what is what are their regrets? I wish I could do it different. I don't want that regret. So I have a bit of expectation bias that I'm going to waste my time again. You know what I have to show for the first seven years of me being an entrepreneur?

Nothing. Nothing. None of it survives. So, it makes sense that I would have a little bit.

Of an instinctive fear. Am I going to have nothing to show it the next seven years? Yeah, it's a scary thought. It's a little bit of a scary thought because you have data that substantiates it. But if that's my fear, it means that there's an expectation there. And you have to get to the root of it. What am I believing that is making this fear exist for me?

You know, yeah, I found it really interesting. Paul actually was talking about this.

What? What was he saying? Do you have any idea of like?

Basically Paul was just like in the same spot. He was just like he was like, "Thank God you guys took this." Well, cuz like I was wondering if all of this was for nothing.

Oh, First Corinthians.

Was it repentance?

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah. Godly repentance.

He's just like, "Man,

I was sad that I had to basically beat you up with the stick, but now I'm really relieved that I created godly repentance."

Oh, 2 Corinthians 7.

Or 2 Corinthians, sorry.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's

Yeah. So, even him, he's like, "Did I waste my time? Did I waste my time? Did I do the right thing? Did I not?" This is part of the human. It's part of it's part of the the way that the brain encodes information.

Mhm. The the problem for us and the opportunity for us is, you know, we have 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day that cross our our minds. Most of them are repeated. I think nine out of 10 thoughts are repeated from day to day. So, it's a perfect clone of the day before. This is good for momentum because if you get it right, if you get it right, then you're sort of it it's easy to stay on the right path. But if you get it wrong, it takes a pretty enormous amount of energy to get yourself back on the right track. This is why like old self-help curriculum, Jim Ran era, they're like success is just a couple of good choices repeated every day and then failure is a couple of compromises. It's not that hard, but the deviation can create this huge delta. And so if we are on a path of expecting the worst case scenario and we've been doing that for three years, it's gonna it's going to feel like we're burying our head in the sand a little bit to get us back on on track. And this is where epigenetics like Bruce Lipton and uh Caroline Leaf, these guys, they've talked about some of the the way that our thoughts turn on and off different genomes. So only 1.5% of your DNA is expressed at any one time. 98% of it is dormant. It's just there. It's waiting on a signal to express and a lot of the signals come from our expectations and our thoughts.

What does this mean? What do who am I in relationship to this circumstance? All the scientists have they're now pivoting to the spirit. But this has been a trend that's been going on for a while. People have been interested in the spirit for a while. In the 1940s, the guy who invented the term fight or flight, Walter Bradford Cannon, he's the first one who coined fight or flight as one of the sympathetic modes of the nervous system. Um, and nervous system is huge right now. Everybody's into nervous system stuff. He was at the forefront of this. The way he discovered fight or flight as a state was he was studying voodoo, death, witch doctors. So he was it's fascinating to realize how many scientific discoveries have come from the spirit world. We're studying the spirit. But then they went on, you know, 20, 30 years. We went on a banger on this stuff. Placebos, nocebos. We wanted to understand how the how the mind works. There's this interesting study. Researchers gave 40 asthma patients inhalers that contained water vapors, but they told the subjects that the inhalers contained allergens and irritants. 19 of the 40, which is 48%, developed asthmatic symptoms, restriction of airways for no reason. You're just breathing air. 12 of them, which is another 30%, suffered full-blown asthma attacks. So 78% of them breathed air, but because they were told that it was an allergen, they they had a response to it. And then they turned around and they gave the same subjects inhalers that they said contained medicine that was air and all of them their asthma went away. The body is doing this. Like the body is manifesting its own alignment with what you expect.

What was it originally built for then?

The body.

Yeah.

It's an information system that tells you what's going on around you and then you use your mind to control what's going on around you. And then you notice misalignments or alignments through the body. We've we were always supposed to study the body as a way to hear from God, as a way to notice atmospheres, as a way to sense and discern the spirit of something. The Holy Spirit doesn't show up and your body all of a sudden is like wants to like defend yourself and run like this. Not we can sense alignments in our bodies.

These are the feelers. You know, there are people who are like, I have the gift of feeling. Yes, you do. So does every other human being in the history of the world. Yes, we do. What you mean when you're a feeler is it means you have actually learned how to calm yourself down enough to actually process the feelings. And most of us are so stimulated that we can't feel.

Wow. But it's in the body for a reason. That's how we that's how we gather the information. So how did the guy figure out fight or flight from witch doctors? He was studying the way that the nervous systems reacted when they thought that someone had cursed them and the physiology of the person went into sympathetic state and they started to die because somebody else threatened them essentially and said that they were cursed. And so this is not necessarily a spiritual phenomenon. It's a physiological phenomenon. The heck part of what God's doing when he's like, "No curse against you will, no weapon formed against you will prosper." Is he's inoculating you from the physiological effect of taking on the curse. The Hebrews didn't delineate between you. There's no word for spirit spiritual. They didn't have like a word for the spiritual or supernatural and a word for the physical. It was blended together. You couldn't separate it out. It's only recently we've created these two separate worlds. And what we what's shocking is that they're both the same world. They're just touching each other all of the time.

Okay. So, what what takes away the inoculation? It seems like there has to be a way that you can somehow by your own doing un-inoculate yourself. That's not a word, but I made it up.

Yeah. Fear.

Okay. So, go into that. How how is it possible? I mean, it's possible, but how is it possible? God says no weapon will form be formed against you and prosper, but then weapons form against us all the time and they prosper all the time. Disobedience, but fear is a big part of disobedience. God's giving a command to Joshua over and over, "Do not be afraid." That's a command. He's telling him don't be afraid. Do not allow this emotion in your body. Because when you are afraid, God says, "No weapon formed against you shall prosper." And you say out of your physiology and your mouth, you say, "Every weapon formed against me will prosper." You are arguing with the word of God over your life through what you expect. If God says this will happen and you say, "No, it will not. The opposite will happen." There you have fear. That's that's taking away the the immunity so to speak of something. Fear breaks everything. Which is why God says it so many times. Every every worry is don't be afraid. But it's difficult because you're looking at circumstances in the natural that you think could actually hurt you. And then God's saying, who's invisible? God's invisible. You're hearing an invisible voice say, "Don't be afraid." How do you choose what to Which is why the Bible gives us the secret? You walk by faith, not by hearing.

Sight.

Or sorry. You walk by faith, not by sight. Faith comes by hearing. We were partially correct. So, it's telling us Colossians 3 says, "Be obsessed about the realities of heaven, not the realities of this world." They they got it. They they sort of figured it out. They knew that there's a there's a different height that you can get to where you're not looking at what's happening here. You're looking at the causal element, which is the spirit. Whatever we partner with is what we bring here. This is why the second heaven is so contested, bro. Like in the third heaven, we have the actual spiritual environment and it's pretty policed. There's a bunch of rules and stuff like it's just not as clogged up as people think. There's not as many demons operating in the spirit world as you would think. They're all here trying to mess with your second heaven. The second heaven is where the ports are. It's where instruction makes its way through the spirit. It's translated in the second heaven and then we work it out and manifest it in the first heaven. And so we're going to manifest whatever we are bringing in through agreement. If we agree with God, we'll manifest what God says. If we agree with Satan, we'll manifest what Satan says. And the because there's no teaching on this inside of the church. What we have is a lot of Christians who are who are sort of agreeing with Satan, not realizing that if if you would stop saying what Satan is saying, then he would stop being able to manifest on the earth.

Nice. Yes. Does that make sense?

Makes sense. Do you want to go into energetics or uh do you want to go into like tangible?

Well, we can stay in the clouds. We can come down for air. We can we can eat Chipotle. We can do whatever we want. This is up to you, man.

I personally feel like it's so like there's quite a bit. But I know there's there's a side of the audience that would be so sad to not hear the energetics part.

Let's do energetics later. We'll go into another episode later on energetics cuz I mean we It's not my fault that we didn't go into energetics.

Well, I think that it's I think it's we're dense enough that we need to start getting into I might put the energetic stuff in the astrology episode.

Okay, cool. Cuz astrology borrows from the elementals a little bit. Um, let's go into the conceptual model of like how we're being programmed and then um, let's just go straight into application. Let's do it. So the manifestation starts with the thought. The thought can be rejected outright. The thought can be accepted outright or the thought can be negotiated with. There's only three things to do with a thought. When a thought hits your mind, you can take it captive. You can agree with it or you can sort of start playing around with it.

Accept, reject, accept, reject, negotiate.

Negotiate. You play footsie with it. You can like kind of like start messing with it and be weird with it and try to figure it out. So, a classic example of this is um when I was sitting outside of the gym that one day and the voice said, "Are you a better provider than God is?" And I was like, "I don't know." And then I tried to go figure out the I'm I'm like entertaining this thought, right? It's not I'm not doing my job. I'm in disobedience. I'm not saying like, of course, God's a better provider than I am. Are you stupid? Do you not know that God owns everything and does everything that I'm I'm a child? Like, touch me again, your arm will fall off. I'm not like I'm not going warfare on it. You know, I'm like, hold on, let me get back to you. I'm negotiating with it. Or vain imaginations where this happened this happened two days ago and it's embarrassing, but I got a call from someone from the from from the church that I go to. This is like my church and I couldn't answer it. And they she was like, "Hey, it's so and so. I was just giving you a call. It's about 12:45. Call me back. I got a question for you." And I was like, "That's a little odd." Because normally there's like more context. And you know, like I was like, "Shoot, that dude recorded the video. This guy threatened he's going to make a video." And I'm like, "Cool, go for it." Or like my church got an email from someone who thinks that we're like teaching bath theology. And I immediately just went to like,

"Oh, this is the guy that's making a video about you soon."

I don't know about us or our guests. I don't know. Someone,

Okay.

Our guests. Um,

At this point, the video isn't released as far as we know as a recording.

It is. It'll give us more viewers, so go for it.

But the point, Jake, is my brain, my thoughts. I was like, I started getting a little nervous and I was like, how do I deal with this?

Mhm. Are they going to ask me to like take something down? In which case, I probably would. I definitely would. Am I going to get in trouble? Like, you know, it's like,

Yeah.

What's going to happen here? Because I don't want I don't want this if this is my home. Like, this is my church. Like, and I started getting mad at people where I was like, how dare you? Like, why would you email my church? And and then I kind of paused. I had this little timeout moment where I was like, what what am I doing?

M. I don't even know what she wants.

Let's just wait and see. So I calmed down and had nothing to do with any of this. It was something random, something totally different.

Mhm. And I was like, isn't that interesting how my first pit my first response was a something was planted up here and I started to entertain it. I started to sort of go down that road. And what's what's terrifying is if this would have happened for like days, then I would have started opening up spiritual contracts because then the whole universe of energy around me would have started to look at that as like he wants this to happen. He's going to start manifesting this. Is that what God wants manifested?

Absolutely not.

No. I'm the one that's doing it because I have a significant level of control over what happens around me. God built it that way. He's not taking that away from me. So, this is where we get the we get messed up because we begin manifesting things. God's like, "Dude, that wasn't what's supposed to happen. That's not the plan, but I will go with you and we will walk through this together and then we'll have to fix it." And then imagine the the heartbreak of a father when we begin to then turn around and blame God and curse God for the things that we're the ones that did did it in the first place. Like we opened it up. You're about to have a daughter. Imagine when she's nine. She does something that you've told her not to do and it creates a problem and then she's angry at you for not preventing it. Well, what do you do? You're trying to explain to them a thought that they can't understand. You can't explain to them that yeah, the training is good for you. And part of training is a safe place for failure. This is the

So, the meaning is wrong. This is how we've treated God over the years. No, through the ages. And I think this is why God's heart breaks sometimes because we're using a vehicle, a Ferrari, a a a jet plane. Like we're using something really powerful, but there's no training. So there's no knowledge on how to use it. And so we end up breaking things and then being mad at him. And this is why we are teaching on this. So a thought enters. This is where the thought begins. Then a dialogue is created. Have you ever argued with yourself in your head?

Thousand percent all the time.

Yeah. So there's dialogue. Sometimes we are dialoguing about things we should be taken captive. And sometimes we're dialoguing about things that we should just be obedient with and say yes.

Yeah. Most of our dialogue is happening most of our dialogue is happening when we are being disobedient on something.

Nice. So we got to look at this honestly. Now there are some times when this is not true. So like if you're if you're um if if God's just basically been like dude pick whatever you want.

Mhm. Whatever you want to do. Use some dialogue. You can dialogue about it. But many times there's some instruction somewhere that we received and we're still making pros cons list in our head. Well, that's disobedience. Just call it what it is. God said go. You're like looking at the risk assessment. That's not your job. You just say yes. Or God said something's not going to happen. You will be the head, not the tail. And we're dialoguing about, well, what if I am the tail? All this stuff. And it's like, okay, well, you're allowing this into your life through dialogue because dialogue always turns into agreement. Thought, dialogue, agreement. That agreement is basically what we say yes to through a desire. Yes. Expect or a fear. Yes. Expect. This is no one teaches on this. Like you are saying you are attracting the things you're afraid of often times faster than you're attracting the things that you desire. You want me to prove it to you?

Mhm. How much detail can you explain your worst case scenario to me?

Probably perfectly. Yep. How much detail can you explain your best case scenario to me?

Hard because maybe it I don't want to believe that it could be possible.

Bingo. So, whatever gets the most time with you is what has the strongest signal from you.

Okay. So, our worst case scenario gets a lot of time. Dude, we airtime that thing. It is 24/7 airtime. We can describe the colors. We can describe what it feels like. Where is it? I feel it in your body. Oh, I feel it everywhere. I feel it right here. We're describing it in such crystal clear detail. Well, what's the best case scenario? I don't know. That doesn't happen. Well done. That's a ton of detail. Thank you.

You Yeah, you always you always correct people when you you ask people there's a lot of events and then they say everything they don't want.

Bingo. Yeah.

What that tells me is that the things they don't want is getting more airtime in their mind than the things they do want, which is being taken as an instruction in the energy and the energetics around you. The energetics not demonic. You're like, you're just walking around in energy. Where would you have guessed? How would Jesus have been doing this? Like where would you what would you have seen him doing with this whole scenario with with what his thoughts?

Manifestation his thoughts the best case scenario? All those things like how would you have seen him playing that out?

I don't know. We'd have to ask him. But we have some clues. I mean, we if if you if you only do what you see your father doing, where is he seeing that? Through prayer in his mind. I'd imagine how else to it's hard to accept though. Sometimes it's hard to accept like I only see I only do what I see my father doing. But Jesus is seeing it in his mind as far as we know.

Yeah. He's seeing it in his mind.

You know, like that that feels like it takes a lot of faith in and of itself. But he also has Jesus man to do that. He also has the scriptures. He was there when it was written. So how much history does Jesus have of what God does?

Right? And that's another thing like when people are struggling, I can't hear from God. Do you know your scripture? Do you know how God talks? Do you know God's personality? Imagine the trepidation you're going to have trying to hear from God when you think God's just this warlord, abusive dictator. How are you going to hear from that when you're terrified to hear? I just had the craziest realization from what you said and what Jamie said.

What? When Jamie said he was going through the signals and he would have to listen to uh like operative whatever like 501 or whatever you have to listen. It'd be so interesting if I was always listening to a radio on the side of my bed at all times and there's 200 voices but the only I had to figure out which one was yours and all of them are talking almost at the same time. But if I listen carefully enough I could pick it out but like I have access to all your books and I can read all your books. So I'm that radio is going to play but I'm I'm always hearing your voice. like it's always just running through it 300 other ones. But then I'm reading the books and I'm noticing well it says this word around this time it says this way and I can I don't have any podcasts. I've never heard you before but I can read your books and you've written them yourself. Boom boom boom. I can read them. I can talk to people who knew you and like what did that sound like? And then I can start listening to that radio and picking it up over and over and over again. But if I haven't read the book, I haven't read any of those things. It's very unlikely that I'll know it's you unless I ask specifically enough to like quiet all the other voices except for yours. You just want to know what I sound like,

Right?

So, if you started hearing phrases that I you've heard me say before a lot, you would be like, "Oh, that's what it sounds like."

That'd be like, "Oh, that's him. That's

That's what it sounds like."

Okay. Now, how do I follow his tone of voice? Cuz his tone of voice does sound different than the other ones. And they're all playing, but I can at least hear that one. That one sounds like that and it says that when that like you'll never lock it down, but you'll know that it goes a certain direction. Or what if the voice was changing, but the signature always stayed the same based on the fruit of what I was saying.

Yeah. Then you get into like the upper tiers.

Y. There was a little girl that one of the kids of the event attendees that came up afterwards and me and Katie have been working through this, my daughter.

But how do you hear Jesus? Because sometimes she'll want to hear, she'll talk, she'll ask Jesus to talk to her and she's expecting something because it doesn't fit her expectation. Like, Jesus isn't talking to me. Which is normal. I mean, I know like they're grown adults, we deal with this, too. But this this little girl came up afterwards. I was like, "Did you have fun?" And she said, "Yeah, it was fun. So much fun. I was working the cameras." I was like, "That's awesome. We needed you to help us with the cameras. I'm so glad you were here." I was like, "Did you talk to Jesus?" And she said, "Well, I wanted to." And I asked him to tell me some things, but I didn't hear anything. And I'm really disappointed. Like, leave it to the child to be honest.

Cuz adults struggle to say this. I'm really disappointed cuz I hear I can't hear God. And I said, "Oh, well, what did you ask him?" She told me what she asked him. She's like, "I just never hear a voice." Said, "Well, you know, one day I was walking on the street and it started to get kind of windy. You know how a storm is coming and you can tell that it's starting to get a little windy?" She's like, "Yeah." And I was like, "Do you like the weather?" She said, "Yeah." I was like, "I love the weather. I love it when it rains and when it storms and winds blows and and so it was starting to get windy. I knew it was going to rain." And I was kind of having a bad day. Have you had those? She's like, "Yeah, I've had some bad days." I was like, "Good. Me too. And I asked God, "Can you show me a sign that I'm going to be okay? That you're going to take care of me?" And you know what happened? She was like, "What?" Then right at that moment, I saw lightning flash across the sky and it started to rain. And I knew that Jesus was telling me that he had he's the one that controls the lightning and he's the one that controls the wind and so he can control my life and he's going to take care of me. And she was like, "What?" I was like, "Yeah, did you know that God can speak to you through the weather?" And she was like, "For real?" Said, "Yes, he can talk to you through the weather. Sometimes he can talk to you through a tree, just the breeze." I said, "Next time you're talking to Jesus, just start looking around you and notice if anything's different and if you feel any different, cuz sometimes he'll talk to you through your feelings as well." And she was like, "Okay." She like ran off and is going to try this thing. And I think that is part of like the problem when people have an expectation of God that is inaccurate or it's too narrow. It's like they only want God to show up in the way that they heard someone else explain how God showed up. And as much as I love testimonies, sometimes we don't share them because I'm like, your expectations cannot be moved or manipulated by somebody else's experience. Let God paint whatever picture he wants to paint and just ask him, "I'm here. I'm going to pay attention. Would you talk to me?" And then notice how your your body feels and notice how the wind feels and notice how everything around you feels. But to do that, you have to have a baseline understanding that God is not trying to punish you and he's not mad at you. Because then if something shows up that makes you feel relieved, you won't notice it.

You won't notice the feelings in your body. That has nothing to do with this, but it's important. So thought, dialogue, agreement, emotion. Emotion shows up that reveals our agreements. We have no emotions that do not substantiate some belief system, some agreement. This this emotional state is really just a bunch of neuropeptides and neurochemicals that get punched into your body. It's like just your your brain says this is what I think is going to happen. Then your emotions are sort of chemically induced and your body gets the memo. So that if if thoughts are the language of the brain, emotions are the language of the body. We understand what what we are thinking because we have thoughts. But we understand what we believe in our bodies because of our feelings and emotions in the body. And these emotions eventually lead to genetic expression. They lead to epigenetic expression. They change the way that your body perceives everything else around you. And it all comes from the thought. So if the enemy knows this, he's going to start to show up and try to put thoughts in your brain and just you think that they're your thoughts. So most of the thoughts that hit your brain, the mind is more of a receiver than it is anything else. The body is the one that's generating the data, sending it. The mind's receiving from the body. It's also receiving from the second heaven. So, one of the first things that we should learn how to do is audit audit the where did this thought come from? Did this come from God? Does this come from the devil? Does this come from a demon? Does this come from my experience? Where is this coming from? Um, and the the place you get to is you eventually start creating your own like garden. Like, think about going through a garden and you're like getting rid of the weeds and throwing them away. This actually happens inside of the brain. There's a doctor, his name was Eric uh Candle and he was studying neural connections and he basically said when when the brain is exposed to a new thought, it soups up the connections around that thought. So your neural connections, your neurons might go from, you know, 500 to 750 or 800. It's it puts more stuff around that thought. Brain basically goes like this is interesting. Is this real? Is this relevant? You learn something new. Your brain's starting to put more resources and if there's if there's no repetition, let's say let's say you have a a a neuron system and it goes from 1300 neurons to 2600 neurons, it doubles in its its capacity.

Because you learn that God speaks to people. Wow, that's crazy. Okay. Now, a part of your brain through that belief because it's novel. It made it through the reticular activating system. It's done a lot of work just to get to your your conscience. It blows up and then the brain will come back and check and it'll be like, have we revisited this area or not? And if we haven't revisited, it deletes all of it. What we have to go back to is through repetition. Which is why Paul is saying through the renewing constant of your minds over and over and over, if you don't constantly go back to this belief system or this expectation, it'll eventually go away. Which is why airtime is important. Audit your expectations and look at what expectations are getting the most airtime. Those are the ones with the most neural networks around them. And so the way your brain does everything is going to be manipulated based on what you're airing the most in your mind.

Okay. Time out. Let's come up for air because you're feeling it. I'm good. I'm just like, okay, got it. It's a very, very important reminder of what do we think about? And now I'm like, okay, I need to go spend some time really thinking about best scenarios, best case scenarios with God and asking him what I need to start thinking about about what that looks like. Um, cuz there's nothing really godly about assuming the worst of God 24/7.

No, there's not.

There's nothing humble about that. It just shows how much I don't respect God as much as I say that I do, you know. So, it's a really good reminder. Whose responsibility is this to do this? Ours. And that is in scripture as well. So, at what point will God come in and force you to align your expectations with him?

Never. But he will probably go look for somebody that will.

Mhm. Eventually.

And then we'll blame God for not using us.

Mhm. Yes.

And then create resentment, bitter issues, and

It's all God's fault, and now I'm not a Christian anymore cuz this, that, and the other. It's not. Dude, Jen Johnson's new song, Mad at God, is pretty fire. I haven't heard it. It's good. Basically, it was like it might not be his fault, but it makes sense how you got mad at God. It's not his fault, though. Yeah. Th this You can see this in Proverbs. Um, we talked about this a little bit at the event, too. We'll talk about it here. Proverbs 16:9. Um, a man plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps. So even in the the teacher, the teacher is saying like, okay, it's it's man's responsibility to plan. It's God's responsibility to direct the steps. And what what we have to learn sometimes, and myself included, is when I get so bent out of shape wanting to make sure that I'm doing what God wants me to do. I'm not I'm sort of off the beat. I'm off the program. This is deep.

Yeah.

Let's just hit it for a sec. This is This is too deep for this is probably too deep for a sermon. So, we'll hit it on the deep end.

All right. We're wanting God to plan our way, and God's wanting you to plan your way. That's not his job. That's your job. A man plans his way, but God directs his steps. When we talk about the theology of obeying God and honoring God, there's always movement required before you know what God wants you to do. I I respect the people who are like, "We're just going to we're going to live our lives as if we're at a red light and expect God to give us a green light." But those people don't do anything hardly ever. And when they do, they get lucky or God gets exasperated, has to force them in. You a lot of times I'm living I'm doing the opposite. I'm living my life at a green light and God will give me a red light. That's how I'm operating.

Mhm. This is how he operated with Joshua. It's like, dude, wherever your foot touches, I'll give you the land, but you got to move your feet. God directs the steps of the righteous, not the sitting, meditating of the righteous. Like, he he he moves you as you move. And so we've created this weird thing where we're so afraid to displease God that we're we're actually now in performative mindsets and we're manifesting toxicity and stagnation. We're not man we're not manifesting anything God wants. We have to move. And so the the key here is you should sit down and you should be like, "God, I'm going to plan some things. If you want to plan with me, then plan with me, but I'm still going to plan." And you plan. And what's fascinating is God will begin to tune the way that you think, but you're still the one making the plans. You're still the one planning. And then you pray, will you direct my steps as I move through this? And then you expect that God will direct your direct your steps. Do you have any idea when it says that uh the steps of the righteous are ordered by the Lord? He's always in the right place at the right time. That's what that means. We know people who are in the wrong place at the right time. And we know people who are in the right place at the wrong time. But if you're going to do the way that God tells you to do, you're always going to be in the right place at the right time. What changes about your life if you believe that?

Pretty much everything.

Probably everything. Yeah. You stop overthinking everything. You stop worrying about everything. And you just develop this childlike, well, God's directing my steps, so he's going to move me where I need to be moved.

And it's effortless.

As if God's not an adaptable God.

Oh, yeah. He can do everything else, but he can't adapt. Exactly.

He can't adapt to the New Test Old Testament. He was stuck. And that's Yeah, it's Yeah, that's a revelation I feel like God even gave me in the past two weeks. Have you ever journaled from third person before?

Yeah. What does it do for you?

Well, back in the day, it used to be how I put all of my morning formula together.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, that was the morning formula when when I think you were trained on morning formula from third person.

You write about yourself. That's how it was supposed to work.

Yeah, I hated it.

Maybe you didn't do it.

I thought it was so dumb. No, cuz you're reading about yourself.

Cuz I was just like, this doesn't all these material things don't mean that much to me. I don't really care. So, let's practice this real fast. Let's practice manifestation. Okay.

We're going to we're going to manifest. You ready? You go with this? Let's Let's manifest something. Okay. We know that God likes I think I think we know God likes what what we're doing on the deep end. He's pleased with it.

Yeah.

But nothing can change my mind on that because I can see the fruit of it. And we don't share the fruit, believe it or this is this is weird. We're not a church,

So we don't show up and like talk about testimonies, but we've got them.

People writing all of the time and

I just don't want to I don't want to tune the way that people view the show by sharing stuff that but we know that God's happy with it. And we know that like, you know, the May event, God's going to do some amazing things. It's going to be awesome. He's gonna he's gonna do amazing things despite the fact that we charge tickets to pay for the video. That's crazy. But if it was a Forest Frank concert or anybody else, no one would be saying nothing. Yeah. Here's the thing. That person complaining has probably gone to the movie theater. You just don't honor the things of God. And therefore, you don't pay for them. You honor your own entertainment over what God wants to do. How can I say that? Because I'm right. So, move on. May the May event, we know it's going to be great. God's going to move through it. Tell me what it feels like to be on stage pulling out revelation from Jamie. Describe it right now. It's incredible. It's humbling to It's so exciting. Um, it's just so fun. It's so fun. Where are the lights? Above like in front facing down. And what's the dominant color of you can look out at a crowd and you can see that everyone's wearing more of a certain shade of gray or blue or green. You can see a dominant type of color. You know this as you've led worship. Sometimes everybody wears black.

Mhm.

What's the color in the crowd?

It's just like a warm yellow incandescent look of of color that's falling from the lights above.

What about the temperature? How's it feel on stage?

Good. It's like just more a little bit more cold than it needs to be to make up for the heat of the lights.

Okay. How much time do you have before the segment ends?

About 42 minutes.

42 minutes. Okay. Now, let's change it. There's a man from Idaho sitting in the fourth row on the left side, stage left, and they're looking at the stage. What do they see? They see two people talking about God and their favorite things to do in the world, which is talk about Jesus. And how does he work? And how does he how does he move through everybody? And what do the lights look like to him?

Uh, dark around him, but really bright on stage. Just very illuminating. And what's the dominant feeling he's feeling in his chest?

Grateful. Very grateful.

Why?

Um, he feels a little bit lucky to be in that room to a degree um and that God's provided with like he sees the goodness of God so much that he's like thank you God for letting me be one of the people that got to be in this room like even though there's a responsibility that he has to be there but like God still provided the resources to be there in the first place.

Yeah. Okay. So do you see how this is working? We're

We're running through a simulation,

but the brain lives in a simulation. Your brain, as intelligent as it is, has no idea the difference between what you actually experience on that day and what you're going through right now mentally.

Similarly, like we can't separate voices that we hear. We think everything is just one. It's compressing it to one thing. So, you hear yourself talk, you hear me talk. Your brain is not organizing those differently. So, this is where visualization kicks in. If you do this and you give it enough airtime, the there will be a guy from Idaho that will show up on the fourth row to the left. That's what it's it's it's just a weird energy type thing. Part of that is a partnership element in the spirit.

And so part of it if you actually back door into this, you can see like maybe somebody watches this and they're like, I live in Idaho. I would be grateful to be and that's how it kicks. Does it matter how it happens? Doesn't matter how.

And then we get out of the way when we're actually locked into the way that God would do it. So now you're no longer a throttle.

Mhm. You're no longer nervous. You're no longer thinking about any of the stuff you would normally be. You're looking for the guy from Idaho. Maybe you're looking at Jamie. But now you're a participant in a future that you created. That's how God builds it. He wants it that way.

Okay. So two two elements that I'm personally curious on to wrap this up is one is what's the difference between prophecy manifestation? I used to see this with like I remember one time we were doing a worship night and the guy was leading it. Um, he was like, "Hey everybody, start praying before we even go worship. Go start praying for the people before they get here." We were in a city we had never met anybody. So we're just praying for people and like God's telling us about things about people who are going to be in the room and like all this stuff. and he's like, "There's this one person who I think's going to be here and they're going to have this problem and this thing and they're going to get healed." Like he just that's what he that's what he heard. And then we met that person that night and we had no idea. They like drove like 10 hours to be there and they somehow randomly heard about it and they all the things happened. So what's the difference like with manifestation? One, how do you do that in a wrong way? Um, but two, what's the difference between a prophecy and a manifestation? Or are they basically the same thing? They're just worded differently or have different use cases.

You You can't really manifest the wrong way. You can just manifest the wrong thing.

Okay.

Um, I'm talking about the technique. I'm not talking about like if you do the wrong If you do the right thing the wrong way, you're doing the wrong thing. So I understand that. I I don't need like we get that. Yeah. But you people are manifesting things all of the time.

Sure.

Like everything's a manifestation. So we have to audit what we're manifesting, what we're creating, what we're pulling from the super positioning fictitious could be maybe we don't know into the linear this actually happened. Um, the second question is I think there are different types of prophecy and Paul even alluded to this like some prophecy is the for the purposes of edification, the discernment of spirits could be a form of prophecy. Like you when you're like, I know that that person is not talking to Jesus about this. This is not the Holy Spirit. That's something different. Paul being like, "This prophecy sounds really good, but that's from Python. That's not from the spirit of of God." That that can be like a prophetic discernment. I think we actually have a bit of a a black hole with prophetic teaching that we need to probably figure out how to address, but I'm not a prophet. So, I'm not going to teach about a bunch of prophetic stuff.

Mr. Prophet.

No, I'm just not I'm not in that. I'm not in that pastor.

God, you're so dumb. Uh, you guys are crazy. Like a legit I mean, like a legit genuine like they operate in a prophetic office and they but a lot of the prophetic people have just created a bit of a circus for us. Like so there's a lot of people who won't even they don't even think prophecies. They think prophecy has been twisted, manipulated, all this stuff. And I think that that we need to slowly start to correct that and get some like legit prophets maybe on the show to ask. We asked Mike Singerelli about this cuz he's prophetic and he talked about this and he had some really good things to say. So I think people could watch that. Great episode.

Some some prophecy is coming to pass because you said it and it is generative and it is creative and you are prophesying death over yourself and therefore you will die. That's one lane of prophecy. And then some prophecy is the Holy Spirit took you outside of time into eternity and saw showed you the things to come. And then you're not necessarily like making

It happened. You're just certifying the voice of God in your life by allowing people to to understand where it's go. So like when when they're talking about the things that Jesus did and David is prophesying on the uh you know why did you abandon me and not nothing was broken and all of this stuff. I don't think that Jesus had to conform to it because they said it. I just think they saw it happen.

Um, but I think there are other times prophets in the Old Testament have said something that God wanted to happen and so they prophesied it and through the sping of it the faith of the people was increased and through that faith the partnership took place and then things were changed in real time. M so declarative prophecy is different than like predictive prophecy. I think there's different lanes.

>> Yeah. Okay.

>> You know, so if I were to be a if I am prophetic, it's probably more declarative. Uh and I kind of I'm going to warp this. This is what God wants. So we're going to adhere to what God wants and I don't care what you show me. I don't care what you think is going to happen and I don't care what data says. Like this is what God wants to happen. So it's like just faith where you won't let go of something.

>> Yeah. that could be prophetic as well. Okay. So, the last thing is um how would you guarantee that you would manifest the wrong way? Because what what does that mean when you say you can manifest the right thing the wrong way? What is that wrong way? No, you can manifest the you can manifest the wrong thing the right way. There is no right or wrong way to manifest. There's no right or wrong way to breathe. There's no right or wrong way to eat. But you can eat bad stuff. Does that mean you're eating wrong? Is that meaning you're eating the wrong things?

Okay. So, maybe maybe you could help me clarify this. So, back in do this a long time ago. I actually I just saw the trailer for it recently. The fall of Solomon um when Michael was talking about uh the Holy Spirit, you actually repeated it back to me. You were like, "The Holy Spirit called manifestation witchcraft." How does that get linked together? I don't remember his explanation, but how does Holy Spirit link those two together? How does he get there? If there is maybe I'm not understanding you correctly. I'm just trying to understand that.

>> No, I don't I think so me and him would disagree on this. Okay.

>> Because we just went on a podcast and we disagreed in front of

>> um

>> which is normal cuz we we bicker and in the bickering we become smarter.

>> But

>> what is witchcraft?

>> Rebellion.

>> Rebellion. Can you manifest things that are from rebellion?

>> Absolutely.

>> Does that mean that you're manifesting incorrectly? Yes.

>> No.

>> Okay. Oh, wait. Cuz it's you're looking at it more neutral than good or evil.

>> It is neutral. It's just the thing. It's a mechanism in the spirit and it's a mechanism in the natural.

>> Yep.

>> It's the same like if you eat

>> really really good food. You're going to eat that food the same way that you would eat Taco Bell.

>> Yep.

>> What do you do? You put it in your mouth. You chew it around a little bit and you swallow. What makes it not good?

>> Nothing.

>> It's what you're eating.

>> That's the only difference. So, it's just a mechanism. It's like you can you can do something that's not necessarily like what you're doing is bad, but because you're sort of going against God on something or you have uh an idol of self self uh self-reliance and you just won't even go to God for it, then you get in trouble and that can be witchcraft. But it's not because of manifestation. Manifestation is not witchcraft. It's that you have rebellion. you're doing it you're doing it for a different reason than what it was designed to be done for.

>> But a lot of people if they don't know it's not necessarily witchcraft either because rebellion typically requires some for foresight into what is right and wrong.

>> Interesting. Dude, this is a wild concept to wrap my mind around because I'm I'm thinking through scripture and I'm just like, did Paul manifest himself in prison multiple times? Like,

>> yes, absolutely.

>> How?

>> 100%.

>> How so?

>> He manifested himself into a shipwreck.

>> That's true.

>> He said, "God told me this is going to happen. It's going to be awesome. I'm going to do it."

>> But he heard something from God first and then he spoke it and then it happened.

>> He knew that he wanted to preach the gospel to the the top of the totem pole and prison was the way that he got there. So he he asked God for what he was supposed to think about. He sat on that, gave that the air time, spoke it, and it happened. Dude, I always forget how how literal you are until we get into some of this stuff, and it's like so literal. I'm so sorry.

>> That's great. I think a lot of people are like this. Well, I can just, Dude, I can see how many people and honestly, go for it. I wish there's not enough people like calling you a false prophet. I wish there were more. Like sometimes I'm like, "Oh, that's great." I just like No, because

>> Yeah. No, sorry. Actually, no. Because it's like, you know, any publicity is good publicity in my opinion, but it's just like I'm I know people are going to come after you for that. And so I'm like, "Okay, what are you actually saying?" I was like, "Oh, okay. Got it." Yeah. Yeah. Same page. Yeah. That was the same as somebody who has been through a bad experience in their marriage and for a while, say it ends in divorce, maybe there's abuse or something, there's a little bit of trepidation because that was their experience, you know.

>> Mhm. where you come out of a a high intensity like ministry environment where you're on staff or a pastor or whatever, then you kind of come out and it doesn't end well. There's a little bit of trepidation like this this was not good. But very few of us would look at the situation and say I got divorced and uh therefore marriage is just a prison and no one should get married. There's a lot of people saying that right now. Yeah.

>> Well, we're just dealing with 5-year-olds,

>> you know, or trauma, just trauma, people having trauma, the trauma they have to talk about. But I I think that that's not a mature way to to look at it, they usually grow through that.

>> Agreed.

>> Yeah.

>> And same with ministry, you know, I had a bad experience with the moment that it becomes stuck. So, the moment that you're like, yeah, I had a bad experience with marriage and therefore God doesn't like marriage. The moment that it becomes stuck, you have uh something broken with that person,

>> which is where you get like the

>> church hurt.

>> Church hurt. The sect of Christianity that says that healing and the gifts of the spirit are not for today. Like because one person abused it

>> and they just had a bad experience.

>> Yeah.

>> And then what you expect is what you find. So you find that everywhere. So then you find every example of somebody who's abusing like the gift or something. like that and then that's all you can find. You're you're triggered by it all the time because it's all your brain wants you to

>> to find. What we should do is flip this around and we should look at what does God want to happen on the earth right now? What does God's plan for America? What does he want? What does he want the church to look like right now? Let me get a vision for this. Let me let me God what what does this look like? Here's what I think. All right. I'm reading the way that the the New Testament people operate. I'm reading like dude that Peter's just pulling gold out of fish's mouth. is crazy. Okay, but this is God is maybe a provider. Hm. This He didn't have to work for it, but he sort of did have to work for it cuz he failed all the time. So, oh, maybe it's both. It's both. Maybe maybe I do have to prepare myself to get close to God and I still have to be moving, but then God will provide the details. Okay, so we now we build this new model. this model is working and now we start to use our creative generative capacity to then manifest that and then all of a sudden money starts falling off trees or you can be a cynic. You say, "Well, nope. This isn't good. Like every time I try to start a business, it doesn't work." And you know what? Anyone else who's been successful in starting a business, they're just addicted to money and they're greedy because I need to justify my own inability to try again by hating and throwing rocks on them. And then what you experience is that you're always strung out and struggling and barely making it. Well, two people can go through the same things and then their futures are very different.

>> They learned something.

>> A pair of twins that have the exact same genome and one of them can't see and one of them can. And it's like the the the epigenetics is changing what's going on and it's like this it's up part of it's up to us. This is how we man this is manifestation. This is what what do we expect based on what we just went through to happen in the future. And then the reality is that we just spent 3 minutes visualizing May and you have a picture for it. But most people will spend 90 seconds or three minutes visualizing something good and four hours visualizing something bad and then they're confused. They're like, "Why is my life not working out?" Well, because your air time is going towards the worst case scenario. You spend 3 minutes rehearsing the promises of God and then four hours rehearsing the promises of Satan. You're manifesting. You're picking one. you're picking it, right?

>> You can you can describe the things you don't want to happen in exquisite detail. You can paint a picture that looks like real life in your head, but when when God's like, "Hey, let's dream together," you're like, "I don't know. It's just it's not bad. No detail at all." You have circumstances that just keep showing up again and again and again in your life, and you think that there's just like problems with the system. The matrix is broken. But when we back door into it, you are nursing the belief systems that says you're a victim. You were betrayed. You were abused. And you could re you could write biographies on how a pastor didn't pick you. And you can write nothing on why you are worth being picked.

>> Now >> your brain's doing what God built it to do just the wrong way. That's manifestation. But we're doing it to construct prisons for ourselves. This is an awesome episode. Here's what we should do for the next seven days. All right. Um, we didn't even get into the demonic gates. We'll put that in energetics. All right. But there are like eight of them, eight different ways. We'll have to put that in in another episode. But we have to eat food the next seven days. Anytime you begin to feel something you don't want to feel, name it and then find the underlying belief system that is allowing you to feel that way. That is necessary for you to believe that.

>> Like an emotion. Yeah.

>> Backdoor through the emotion into the brain, into the hippocampus, into like what am I believing that's making me feel this way?

>> Mhm. This will take some time.

>> Yeah.

>> Depending on how chaotic your life is,

>> right?

>> Every single time, just make pause. You don't have time to do it right then cuz you're at work or whatever. Just write the feeling down and do it before you go to bed.

>> But you have to get your brain to start opening up the the hood of the car so you can be like, "Okay, my car is making a noise." Don't just be like, "Oh, I hate that noise." And run away from the car. You open the hood up. Look what's going on in here. Something's causing me to believe this. Then insert the belief from scripture. Replace it. Reject it. This is what I have believed, but I no longer believe this. Why? Cuz this what God said is different. And I want to experience what God said, not what the devil is saying, not what my dramatic brain is saying. I don't want to believe this anymore. And then practice it. So take yourself into is this is a bit of visualization. I just give you an example. You have some bills that come up. You don't want to look at the bills. Okay? You're feeling like scarcity and you can't pay for things. Write it down later. What's causing me to believe? And go to the root of it. So it's not what's causing me to believe in scarcity is not like well I don't have enough money. Layer it down. Why do I believe I don't have enough money?

>> Why? Why? Why? Why?

>> Because there's too many bills. Why are there too many bills and not enough money? Yep.

>> Because I don't make enough at work. And why is that a problem? Because I work so much and I still can't get what I need and I think like I'm obeying God but no promotion is happening. Why do you think that is happening? Cuz God's not interested. Oh, there we go. There's the belief system. That's at the root. What does the Bible say about that? There's tons of it. Deuteronomy 8, God has given me the ability to produce wealth. Okay. Well, why aren't we believing that? What's going on? Or uh you know the apostle saying God make supplies all of your needs in Christ Jesus. We don't believe that. If we believed it, we wouldn't be feeling this.

>> Mhm.

>> The emotion is like not going to survive in a a bad emotion won't survive in the middle of like the truth of God. It won't it won't survive. Replace it. God is the provider of all of my needs. Does that include physical? Yep. Does that include financial? Yep. Emotional? Yep. All of it. Okay. Practice. What if God actually actually wanted to show off for you and to take care of you? What would that look like? Explain it. And what your brain's going to do is it's going to be like, "Yep, it would look good. Move on." No, we've got the hood opened up. Explain it. How does it look? How does it feel? Well, it would look like one day I walk into my job and the boss says, "How are you doing?" and you say like, "I'm doing really good. I'm really grateful for the opportunity to be here." And they like, "Actually, I wanted to talk to you about something." And they say, "We've noticed you're doing so good and we'd like to offer you a promotion and a raise." And you're like, "Wow, God must have done that." Just what does that look like? What does that feel like? And you will begin to get the things that you give airtime in your mind. And if Christians could get this, oh my god, dude. Oh my god. Like newagers are teaching this because it works if we did this according to scripture. We would everything would be everything would be different. Everyone would be like I'm willing to die for Jesus. It would change. There would be less need for apologetics. There would just be like your life is a giant poster. You know there we wouldn't have to be like well did you know that doctrally that's this and that's that because this was a papyrus thing that somebody wrote. No, we don't need we don't need all of that. That's not how Jesus witnessed. Jesus was like, "Yep, throw your net on the other side because I've thought about this. This is what I I saw this moment happening." And then it happened and people were like, "Whoa, you're the Messiah. You have to be." And we would have that same effect. We would be poster children for like the the best belief system on earth, which is that there is a God who created everything from the very beginning. And he was thinking about you when he did it. So, of course, he's going to be interested in what your boss thinks about you. Seven days. That's the homework. Good luck. Love it. That's great, dude. God, we love you. May we not misuse the mysteries that you have given us. I pray that you would keep us grounded so that we do not get our own ideas, but that we would get the instructions from heaven. Would you speak to us? Thank you just for paying attention to us. And thank you for loving us. And thank you that you listen to us and that you still speak today. And I pray that everyone listening to this that you would give them a supernatural belief that you actually meant everything that you said about us, about the world, and about the future. We trust you, and uh we are going to partner with you. We make the decision now that we're not going to sit on the sidelines passively. We're going to actively jump into the water and we're going to practice with you. And you're our trainer. You're the best coach. You're the best mentor. And you're the best trainer. And so we submit to your process. We submit to your word and uh we just commit to leveling up not just to get what we want but so that we can experience partnership with the God of everything that exists. We love you in the name of Jesus. Amen. See you guys.