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The AI Sell-Off, Bitcoin Wallet Hacks & Global Realignment | Simon Dixon Hard Talk LIVE

Simon Dixon3:06:16

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This week really began with the Fed. Once the Fed said what they're going to do with interest rates, we had a big crash in AI stocks, but apparently there was an insider from Citadel that was telling people what was coming. And when it didn't happen, it had a big crash. And guess who bought all the positions? It was Citadel after the unwinding of a highly leveraged, uh, hedge fund. And that same Citadel is invested in a new AI stock called Ionic Digital that used to be a Bitcoin mining stock that was rewarded, uh, to the victims of the Celsius scam.

So at the same time, we're also getting ready for what happens with activation of BIP 110 in Bitcoin, and we had some of the wallet hacks that we need to understand so that you can protect yourself, um, as well as escalations with Saudi Arabia, with the US, with Iran, with Yemen, with Iraq. Uh, we're going to put it all together because we haven't done this for a while.

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Hey, hey, sovereign wealth builders. Simon Dixon here and welcome to another episode of Simon Dixon Hard Talk Live. This week we're going to be covering the AI sell-off, Bitcoin wallet hacks, and of course the global realignment that's happening in the Middle East, whether it be Iraq, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran, the latest over there, how we follow the money, and check in on what's happening, um, and what we expect to happen next.

As always, we're going to be doing this in two parts. Part one, I'll be going through the new things that happened this week, the AI unwind, um, the the Bitcoin decisions leading up to the sell-off. Um, and then we'll be diving into the Middle Eastern side and what it actually means.

In part two, I'll give you a quote from the interview. "Politicians are paid for rent prostitutes." Uh, we had a really nice conversation, um, with a media veteran, uh, where we were discussing from the perspective of somebody that's actually worked inside the machine in media, the true mechanics of power. Um, and that was when I was invited onto a podcast with, uh, James Delpole.

So let's jump right in with this week in the macro and market side. So really, the big event happened when Wednesday, we had the Fed chair announcement, and people have been wondering, is it going to be lowering rates? Is it going to be increasing rates? You know, inflation is high. Um, and there's different theories around what's going to happen. You know, there was the big hoo-ha between Jerome Powell and Trump. Then we had the regime change at the Fed, and people were thinking this is Trump getting his way and he's going to be reducing rates. Um, but we had nothing happen. But people are starting to think that we're potentially moving towards a rate hike or nothing happening. So anyway, the rate, uh, decrease, uh, isn't happening.

Now, allegedly, there was lots of stories and rumors, and I haven't really sought through what's true because I've been writing my book. So I've just caught up on the stories. I haven't got the full thing here, but I wanted to make sure that we just take a step back and think how this all fits in. But there was allegations against Ken Griffin from, uh, Citadel, the big hedge fund manager, you know, the one that was involved in GameStop, massive Citadel financial industrial complex node, um, on the hedge fund side, you know, up in the levels of Jane Street, in terms of market manipulation, um, and, uh, you know, various other things. Um, but there was a massive AI sell-off, and the rumors was that Citadel was telling people that there may potentially be a different outcome with the Fed, and when it didn't happen, um, much of the AI stocks had a really big and bad reaction to that.

Now, in the meantime, one of the hedge funds that was overleveraged, like 4X to a $25 billion AI infrastructure hedge fund, um, was, uh, wiped out. They were completely overleveraged, and because of the severe correction, there was a margin call, and guess who ended up buying all of those AI stocks? It was Citadel. Um, and, uh, this was as a result of this hawkish tone that happened as a result of the Fed.

Now, in the reaction to that, remember what happens when you have people selling bonds? You have big increases in the yield on, uh, the the bonds and the treasuries. There was a really big hike on the 10-year and the 30-year. So we're above, you know, the the 5% mark, which we've been tracking throughout the whole war. And now we're up to four and a six, 4.6% on the 10-year. Now, remember, the 10-year treasury is what sets the rate for most, most debt. Mortgages, uh, less credit cards, but auto loans and mortgages are the most important part of it. So when the yields on the 10-year bond go up, it has a knock-on effect on mortgage rates, which means that when it comes to refinancing, if mortgage rates are above 7%, you start to hit some of that stress. Um, and so throughout the whole Iran war, we were talking about every time the rates get above 4.5% on the 10-year and 5% on the 30-year, you get a taco event, a capitulation. Um, but we had this big spike in yields now. So, um, this is a near new, new all-time high. Really, not all-time, sorry, near-time high. Um, and so that had a really big impact on the AI stock sell-off at the same time as these yields going up. Um, and so we said, you know, some of those funds, as we said, were hugely leveraged. When you're leveraged, it means you're borrowing. It means you can lose significantly more because you're taking your capital that you're investing, um, and, uh, you're taking out a leveraged position. You're getting increased exposure. Um, and so when there is these sharp moves downwards, you get these liquidations. Um, and so Citadel decided to use this opportunity to buy a lot of these AI assets.

Now, there's two ways of interpreting that. One is that they're building a long-term AI position. Uh, the other way is that they're building a position so that they can then leverage and then they can do their market shenanigans as a trader. Uh, but immediately after the purchase, we had a massive AI market rebound. Um, and, uh, there was a bunch of forced selling as a result of those liquidations. The positions were realigned, and Citadel became the net beneficiary, um, from many of those AI purchases. So we will keep watching this and we will see, um, what happens here. But unwinding AI positions, um, is it based upon the fundamentals or is this a short-term trade? Because we know that China has significantly cheaper infrastructure at the expense of the US model with all these token models. Um, whether we're going to be getting something, and there's some insider information, we will see. But the smart money, um, is, uh, buying into these forced liquidations. Whether that's for more leverage or whether that's for a long-term position, uh, we shall keep watching this space.

Speaking of AI, if you were involved in the Celsius bankruptcy, congratulations. There was a new AI infrastructure stock that went live this week. It's called Ionic Digital. Uh, full disclosure, you will know I am the, I was the seventh largest creditor in the Celsius bankruptcy. Um, and we fought to keep the Bitcoin. So we got the upside from the Bitcoin and packaged all the other assets into a company that has now gone public. And that public company, Ionic Digital, uh, went live on NASDAQ. They pivoted from Bitcoin mining to taking their their locations and renting it out and selling it out to, um, AI companies. They got a multi-billion dollar contract, and guess who one of their early cornerstone investors was right before the public offering? It was Citadel. Um, so it went from when in the bankruptcy the shares were issued at $20, and yesterday at close, they were trading at about $70. Haven't looked at what's happened to the price today. Um, so but the point is, the people that were selling, the distressed creditors that wanted out, there seemed to be a big amount of institutional buying that was allowing people to exit into those positions. Um, and Citadel was one of the, um, larger investors here. So it becomes really important, is there an accumulation of positions in order to leverage, or is this longer-term positions that are being set up?

Now, you know my long-term theory. I think that everybody needs to be an owner in order to protect themselves from what's happening in the AI trade because if you don't own parts of the infrastructure, then you don't get, you know, you may be using the productivity increase, but the productivity increase is leading to mass unemployment, is my theory. I don't think it's going to create jobs. It's only the Silicon Valley people that have to say that that are saying that. Um, I think it's going to lead to mass loss of jobs and eventually some kind of universal basic income, highly likely to be issued via some kind of stable coin or CBDC globally or whatever it may be because those that own the assets, this is massive wealth inequality. Those are the most productive are getting the highest paid jobs, and they're being paid in order to take out the jobs of everybody else. So the more productive you are, the more aligned you are with AI, you're more likely you are to be one of those people that retains their jobs. And then the other half of that is you need to be an owner in the infrastructure. Also building your freedom with open-source, um, AI as well, which is mainly being built upon the China stack at the moment, ironically. And so the China stack is allowing people to do this significantly cheaper. Um, and, uh, the US stack is trying to justify this capex expenditure and valuations.

Now, one of the ways to protect yourself there is to be the owner of the companies that are actually renting out the infrastructure that makes up the AI that is signing long-term contracts with the Magnificent 7, like Microsoft and various others. Um, and so we just happen to be, as a result of that bankruptcy, uh, receiving some of those shares. You know, not financial advice, but I just wanted to disclose that position. And also that Citadel started building that. So I'm going to be watching this one, uh, very closely. But the ticker is I N D. Um, those shares have been distributed, and really, those that, uh, were, you know, if you ended up in the end, you ended up with about 25% of your Bitcoin, um, as a result of the bankruptcy, and 75% was missing, and then they're doing lots of legal action. There was a settlement with Tether that liquidated a lot of the Bitcoin based upon a Bitcoin-backed loan that then used the Tether in order to invest in this mining infrastructure. That's kind of the story, but that's been distributed now. Um, and fortunately, yeah, the shares have gone up to $70, uh, dollars right now. Um, I won't be selling because I'm going to be holding as part of owning a piece of the infrastructure behind the artificial intelligence, knowing that it's been rented to some of these larger counterparties.

Anyway, um, none of that. You should read all the different stuff. I just wanted to share what's happening there, and I thought I'd cover it today because it launched on the market, and also, um, the the Citadel position, which I thought was interesting timing. But anyway, it's a strong outcome for creditors who held, um, congratulations. It's a nice ending to a very painful story, um, for those that sat through over the last four years. Um, and it is now AI infrastructure.

Now, interestingly, is that intersection between Bitcoin and AI? Can you, if there is a crash in the AI part, can you pivot back to Bitcoin? Because what's really interesting is this week, Bitcoin went up while AI stocks were crashing. So, really, Bitcoin is just being its own thing. There is no real thesis around it. It used to be correlated to AI stocks. Then the AI stocks significantly outperform Bitcoin, and then the AI stocks have its correction, and Bitcoin goes up. So that whole relationship around what Bitcoin is, it is its own thing. It is its own fixed supply, um, economics, and short-term, it's a crazy beast. But the only way to do that is to dollar cost average for the long term into an investment position, and then you decide your allocations around that.

Well, anyway, it pivoted from Bitcoin mining, um, and now it's in the AI HBC area. Um, and, uh, it will be really interesting to watch how you can go from AI to Bitcoin mining, or whether it just goes down the AI route, locks in long-term contracts, um, and how that all plays out, especially with these valuations and what comes next with the the China rug pull that, uh, I think is built into the equation. Uh, personally, the demand for AI infrastructure, I think, is going to be solid for many, many years. Um, and, uh, whatever happens there, um, but the the Citadel was one of the cornerstone investors that makes me very skeptical. So I think right now it is probably likely that if you're looking to sell your shares at these prices, you may be speculation selling to Citadel. Um, and I think Citadel seems to be building a larger, uh, position there, as well as all the other AI infrastructure. Um, so read that as you wish and think about the capital rotation. Uh, we'll keep, we'll keep asking that.

So, you know, the questions you have to ask yourself is, is this bullish for AI infrastructure as a result of this, um, or is this part of the securities lending opportunity and a wider big picture that the financial industrial complex is building? Is it a market-making opportunity for them? Um, but we'll follow the institutional capital nonetheless, um, as we continue on this AI, uh, trade.

So, um, also a date to be interested in is a lot of the AI infrastructure and Bitcoin mining in the US with the public companies has concentrated around in Texas. Um, and, uh, there is new regulations that are coming through that will be determining who gets more allocations, and allocations have become extremely scarce in this AI world. And so everyone that's applied, Ionic Digital is applied as well. Um, but August is the timing of whether those applications are going to be approved or not. And if they get approved and it leads to a higher allocation, um, then you can see that there is so much demand, uh, from this AI play at the moment. Um, and that leads to, you know, significant additional power capacity. Will it lead to more contracts? Um, but April will be where we can watch and see what happens around that. Um, you know, the choke points that are happening right now is AI, uh, GPUs, computers, which goes into the the chips trade. Um, and then of course, the electricity and the electricity allocation. Um, so the execution of this now depends upon power. Then there's a regulatory chokehold if you get additional capacity. Then these are kind of the things that are happening right now in terms of these transitions. But, uh, that's expected to carry on until right up until 2027, and I think demand will be there regardless up until 2030. So, you know, it's not just the chips play. Power is becoming one of the key assets, which really ties into my long-term thesis, if you've been a long-term listener, that it was AI that was going to lead to a massive realignment and repricing event in the Middle East that led into the geopolitics and everything that's happening right now.

So this, I think, is a good time to go into the geopolitics, right? Um, so with, there was a visit from Netanyahu in the White House this week. Um, and who went to meet Netanyahu? Remember all those "Israel rules the world" and "Netanyahu is the king of the world" people? I mean, now he doesn't even get anyone important meeting him at the airport. I told you Netanyahu and Israel are nodes of the military-industrial complex. The MIC exits when they do a deal with the FIC, and you can make regional, you know, regional reinvestment more profitable than the forever war. The forever war is coming to an end. This is an operation to end the forever war in the Middle East. Realign the Middle East with West Asia, more aligned with China, based upon China capital and Gulf capital. And then therefore, there is a, you know, when you don't have a forever war, what is the role for Israel? Because Israel is an MC node. Their job is to destabilize the region so that they can increase the revenue for MIC companies. Um, and it was leading into this year, many of the, because the Israeli stock market has done well relative to the economy, that is the fake asset strapping operation, exactly what's happening in the UK, exactly what's happening in America, that means that there's going to be now state military-industrial complex assets that are being privatized, and a percentage of it is being IPOed, which can then be purchased by foreign investors. And so this is the distress, you know, this is the acquisition strategy of how you weaken the state, privatize the assets, and then realign Israel around who the new shareholders of the MIC companies are. Um, and leading into that, there was Abraham Accords, um, which is where the UAE was able to then invest. And so, everyone builds their own narrative of what's happening. Now, do I like this? I'm just reporting on what is happening by following the money. And so you can see that probably one of the cornerstone investors in the MIC assets in Israel will probably be the Gulf countries. Others will interpret that as they're under the control of Zionism. Um, but if you follow the money, purchasing that means you get influence over that, which means then you can change the geopolitics of the region. Um, and so what else did we happen?

So we had Netanyahu who got a very, you know, uh, normally, you know, it wasn't him going to Congress getting his round of applause. Nobody met him at the airport. There was no red card, red carpet treatment. Um, there was just your token statements from the Trump administration, um, and Netanyahu. But when he comes, it's because things aren't going the way he wants them to go as an MIC node. And my long-term theory is that he will be regime changed. He's negotiating his exit, and then Israel becomes more FIC aligned in a post-forever war model. In order to achieve that, then there is no need for resistance. And so Iran, um, which had sat down with Saudi Arabia via China normalization, had effectively already normalized in 2023. And you need a transitional war in order to, uh, go through all these realignments. Um, so in the Iran side, where is the axis and where is the action? Why I was talking about how Lebanon would most likely be a hold-out clause? Gaza, while they continue to get as much land as possible, you know, the crimes against humanity are still as bad as they've always been. Um, but Gaza, you would enter into a deal with Hamas. Then there was the announcement of the border peace. And so Trump this week starts bringing up the question of border peace again. Um, and we get rumors that Hamas is entering into the next phase of disarmament. Um, now these were things that everyone that said "Israel rules the world" thought that could never happen. But from my perspective, all of these, um, the, you know, the resistance that was backed by Iran is no longer backed by Iran. And so therefore, it moves into a state and political integration process because it removes the, what I've always called Operation Gladio strategic tension, i.e., Iran and Israel always, you know, "death to America, death to Israel." Israel saying they're trying to attack the Jews, and we're surrounded by enemies, and they're terrorists. Um, and that made the MIC trillions and trillions of dollars. If the FIC is in control, which I think it is moving towards here, then the forever war ends. Israel's role changes, and Iran needs to shed the resistance and any of the proxy aligned in exchange for state armies and state politics. Um, and so, you know, you'll get, I think you're getting movements towards the settlement with Hamas. You're getting movement towards the outcome with Hezbollah. Um, and, uh, this, um, you know, everything is a, it's a different strategy. So Iran needs this event in order to maintain its IRGC power structure, um, and maintain and get as much out of this negotiation as it possibly can. Um, so this is diplomacy alongside military operations, and the diplomacy is an alignment with FIC to prevent the forever war model and a regional stability and a recognition of China's new role in the region. China's purchasing all most of the energy from both Iran, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, everyone else. And so a regional framework is what comes at the end of this. Um, and that started, as I said, in probably earlier than 2023, but the optics of it was the Saudi-Iran deal, and that was signed in 2023, and this is the execution. Saudi and the Gulf countries don't want resistance there because then it doesn't justify Israel, and if Israel is being acquired more and more, um, and is going to be integrated into the Gulf region, um, then through this normalization with Iran, Iran is more aligned with China, um, you destroy the certain infrastructure and rebuild contracts to term in the region. Iran starts destroying, uh, many of the US infrastructure. We got additional escalation there that leads to rebuild contracts, and then we have the final parts of the negotiation, the $300 billion investment in Iran, and also what happens with the choke points, which are very, very important, because if the US is exiting, which I think this is, then the US can no longer, you know, protect the global trade and global sea, and so it was that 2023 agreement between Iran and Saudi Arabia executing over time in a strategic way. And that was because Saudi couldn't do Vision 2030 when there's lots of resistance and fighting and constant tension with the Houthis. Um, and so, and, uh, and so they entered into normalization. Um, now, what did Iran want? Well, Iran, if it's moving into this new vision, it needs a way of shedding what it had been backing, and states becoming states again. Um, and that's what I think we're witnessing. What did China want? China wanted energy security. It just wanted stability and diversification. It didn't want, you know, um, you know, so there's energy from Iran. There's energy from the Gulf countries. Um, and China wants its stable, um, way of getting its energy. So the only way to achieve that is to unwind the sponsorship of resistance and and stop executing the MIC, um, model.

Now, some people get very offended by that. Um, you know, I'm just saying what the money is saying when you follow the money and taking out the emotions. Um, I've always said, if you put the humanitarian hat on, do I think this is right? Do I think this is, um, good? Well, I do think this is better than the MIC forever war model. Um, and I do think the strategic tension between Iran and Israel changes, uh, the industry. Um, I think it's disgusting what's happened in Gaza. Um, I think what what ends up will be better. Uh, but it won't be justice. I think what ends up in Israel, the whole thing is just, you know, I've made my opinions very clear about that, but what I want isn't what is happening. And so what is happening is what we need to really focus on. Um, so what happened this week anyway? Well, we got escalations in Iraq, and we got, um, escalations in Yemen, and then we got the announcement from Hamas and the Gaza side. So that's the whole thing. If you think about it, Yemen, there was an agreement signed with Houthis. Now we escalate it further. There's joint operations between US and Saudi. They're not, nobody in Iran is bombing Israel, which it tells you everything. If this was something else, you'd expect significant, um, targeting of Israel. Um, and that means, in my interpretation, that the the MIC and the FIC have come to a deal on what happens with Israel. And Iran is executing what the destruction that is needed, uh, to get the US out of the region. Um, and then there is negotiations, and we will find out exactly what the integrations look like slowly over time. Uh, so when there's re-escalation with the Houthis in Yemen, that's moving towards that negotiation. When there's escalation with Hezbollah in Lebanon, that's moving towards that negotiation. When there's escalation in Iraq and the various, um, resistance and forces there, that is movement towards that. And Iran, um, is, everything to me looks very, very strategic, while the world looks like it's going towards World War II. And so I think it's interesting that Trump brought up that border peace. Now, remember, the most important thing is who funds the Iran rebuild, the, uh, Gulf country rebuild, and what the, the funding of the border peace looks like, or whether that infrastructure even holds in the end, that determines what was really happening here.

Excuse me. Let me grab some water. And so the fact that that narrative is returning, whilst the price of oil isn't escalating to anything concerning, gold's not doing anything concerning, yields are rising, then to me this means that everything we're seeing, again, escalate to de-escalate, bounded escalation in order to further towards a deal that changes the region and changes everything. And so the Saudi decided that it was going to be putting some pressure on many of the Iraq militias here. Um, and, uh, Yemen operations continue. There was strikes from the Houthis in Saudi on energy. Energy did have a reaction, but nothing like what we saw before. Again, bounded escalation, then a reaction from, um, Saudi as well. This is resolving all of the choke points. So the most important choke points, Strait of Hormuz, within Iran. Um, and obviously Oman has a piece of that as well.

So we also, excuse my voice is going a little bit. Um, I haven't done a Simon Dixon Hard Talk Live for a while, um, because I've been writing my book. For those of you that don't know, I'll give you a bit of an outline of the book at the end. Um, we're going really well. I'm really enjoying writing this book, and um, I've actually even built an AI model, um, that I'm going to be releasing for everyone as well, that kind of allows you to take MIC, FIC, and TIC subordinate, um, and, uh, and sovereign pressures, apply it to yourself, countries, and businesses, because many people ask that in the comments, what's the best jurisdiction to live in? How do I prepare for this? What do I need to do? I've been feeding and looking at all of your comments, um, under the YouTube video and in the Simon Dixon Hard Talk, um, free membership portal as well. So, keep that feedback coming. It's really helped, uh, me in the writing and developing the model, and it's going to turn into something much bigger to really help people, uh, through this as well. Um, but anyway, that's why I haven't, you know, uh, been doing as many episodes, or they've been shorter episodes, but there was a bunch of stuff happening, and people were saying, I really need to check in here. So I just wanted to keep people on track, um, and give my analysis as well.

So, keep watching the Strait of Hormuz. There was a proposal from Oman to run it jointly with Iran. Iran rejected it. Um, and that will lead to, you know, further what it looks like because Oman effectively is a proxy for the Gulf side, and all interests will be considered. Um, and Iran will want to make sure it's got as much, um, of its leverage as possible, but it will be in a regional way. Um, so we'll see exactly how that, how that comes out, but I expect that they're probably negotiating where the FIC, in order to get rid of the MIC, which then means you control Israel, the military-industrial complex, they're probably wanting a piece of the action. And so I reckon there's a FIC negotiation via Trump. There's an MIC exit via Netanyahu. Um, and then the Gulf countries and the sovereign wealth funds aligned with the FIC, um, will be negotiating with Iran, and Oman will be the conduit there, as well as Qatar, um, that has the relationship. And then eventually, Pakistan is acting as a proxy for China right now because China has been investing in the Belt and Road Initiative to counter IMF pressure. Um, and so then we need to watch, um, who's who's in charge of Hormuz. It's Oman and Iran. And whatever happens there will set the, you know, um, the the order that then leads to what happens with Bab al-Mandeb, um, and the Red Sea, which then leads into Egypt and, um, the Egypt control over the Suez Canal. So these are very, very important things that will, will come out.

So what happens then? You get the escalation between Yemen, Saudi. So I'm expecting these are all moving towards resolution as a result of it. Who controls these main choke points that sets very important indicators. So who invests in the rebuild? How is that structured? And who ends up controlling the choke points? This will be the most important geopolitical change of our lifetime because it then goes out to all the different types of choke points as well, um, and, uh, marine sovereignty based upon, uh, your proximity to the seas that are no longer controlled by the US, and then the FIC trying to get as much of it can based upon its leverage is really defining what's happening. And they're obviously renting out the MIC and the military, uh, to try and get as much leverage in those negotiations as well. But if it has toll taking, how that is executed? If it's service fee, how is that executed? Iran said it wanted to take payments in Bitcoin, and it was building a Bitcoin, uh, payment service. With this oil coming on the market, OPEC, what is it going to be priced in? Is it going to be priced in, uh, Yuan? Is it going to be priced in Bitcoin? Is it going to be priced in dollars? What is the mix, um, that happened there? It can be priced in there, but it could be settled in other currencies as well. That then leads into the sanction removal and everything we've been covering over the months ahead. Um, what are the GCC incentives as well? What are the Iran incentives? Um, and when the GCC incentives and the Iran incentives and the FIC incentives all align, um, then you get escalation, escalate to de-escalate, um, and then a resolution.

So, we'll see what happens with the Houthis. We'll keep, um, you know, uh, we'll keep watching that, um, and I believe that it ends, anyway, into a similar thing to what we saw with Hamas in Gaza, but integration with the political process and the state army. Um, but the end thing, what is happening here, reduction of US footprint wherever this happens, reduction of US footprint, that means the Middle East is becoming West Asia aligned with China, while the US is handing off MIC to FIC, and FIC is trying to get as much leverage as it can through MIC. Um, and they're negotiating with TIC, technology, you know, AI infrastructure, you know, AI data center buildouts, Nvidia chips. This is what's happening when you really follow the money behind the the headline because the US is not a sovereign country. It is a FIC-owned country that is able to leverage its MIC and TIC.

I got to stop, um, pounding on the desk. I think it creates a bit of a noise. I get a little bit excited as well. Um, but then that leads to, at the end of this, an integration into regional security, and we've already seen the makeup of that. The, the, the regional MIC that has the industrial base in Turkey. The regional army, the strongest army being both Turkey, Pakistan, and Egypt. The nuclear, uh, power of Pakistan. Um, and then the funding of the Gulf countries led by Saudi Arabia as the most important node, and the integration into Iran that has the manufacturing base, the China relationships, the MIC, um, the infrastructure, and then with sanction relief, um, the the new rebuild contracts and whatever FIC alignment comes out of all of that. But anyway, I, what we're witnessing right now, if you ask me, this is the dismantling of militant groups, um, in line with an acceptable narrative, um, in order to move forward with the regional stability, um, network.

So, just a quick recap of my framework, um, and how we describe this. Trump, I've always said, is a FIC node, completely aligned with the financial industrial complex. Israel, um, has historically been an MC node, um, and so in order to, but there's going to be more privatization of those military companies away from the state, which means that the state MC node is moving more over gradually towards being a FIC node, which is privatized global transnational capital. Um, so these are different incentives. Um, and, uh, what needs to change? Well, Netanyahu needs to change, and so we will keep watching for what happens leading up to the politics in October. Um, and, uh, that will tell us a lot, and we'll keep following the money around there. I expect that Netanyahu has negotiated his exit. Um, and there'll be a GCC aligned, but leading up to that, there'll be lots of radical Zionist rhetoric, um, that leans into the narrative that gets the additional negotiations and land grabs, more crimes against humanity. What's happening in the West Bank is horrific. Um, what's happening in Gaza, still continue these war crimes. Um, and we need to, on the humanitarian side, we really need to watch, uh, what is the end structure, whether it's border peace or whether it's something else, but who invests in the rebuild, how it's structured, and that will tell us a lot around what's really happening here once that happens. Um, okay, anyway, follow the incentives, not the headlines.

Right, before we go over to the interview, I wanted to close off on some of the Bitcoin stuff. So, last week I released a blog. If you haven't watched it yet, uh, many people were asking me, "What is your position on BIP 110? What's the game theory? Follow the money." So I did my follow the money analysis on both sides. Um, who's pushing it? What's behind it? Um, I also went through the game theory and the different steps. Um, I tied it to a lot of the history. Um, it's a very long blog, but if you are a Bitcoiner, um, and you are, you hold Bitcoin, then you should really get yourself up to date with what's happening with, uh, BIP and BIP 110. Um, I gave my reasoning for why I support it. Um, and I just wanted to give a timeline of what we're watching and what the next steps are. Um, so we need to watch signaling is what we're, what is what we're witnessing. So last time during the block size war, there was signaling. Um, you know, an alternative implementation was developed. It was called SegWit 2X. I'm not going to go deep into this, but I want to, uh, make sure you understand that there was a resistance against that called user-activated soft fork. That's where the nodes got together, um, and they used their node power in order to resist against a change that the big companies, the big miners wanted called SegWit 2X, um, and that was to increase the block size by two, um, and also get a new change called segregated witness that would allow for what's called layer 2 scaling, so you could have the Lightning Network and various other things. Um, but right towards the end, it wasn't right until the block, uh, when the miners changed their signaling, um, and you had a capitulation from the miners. Now, I'm not saying whether that's going to happen or whether that's not going to happen, but that's what I'm going to be watching, and that's what you need to watch.

So, what is the miners going to be signaling, and what's the deadline? Well, there's going to be a, you know, there's a block that will happen around probably August the 7th. We don't know the exact date because it depends on block propagation and how much hash power is behind Bitcoin, but the most important thing is to watch what the miners do in terms of their signaling. Now, and in the in the current version of Bitcoin, uh, you have to get 95% mining consensus. Um, with Bit, with BIP 110, it reduces it to 55%. I have my concerns about that. That's one of the things I do have my concerns about. Um, but you have to get 55% mining consensus. And what a miner is allowed to do, if they contribute electricity to to mining blocks, and they get the block reward and the fee, that's how Bitcoin's designed. And then the rules are run by nodes. Anyone can run a node. As long as nodes are cheap, anyone can do that. That's half of the battle here. Um, and the developers can implement the changes, and you can, a BIP is a Bitcoin improvement proposal, and so it's that triad of decentralization, and there's always attack vectors to try and centralize, um, parts of those. But at this stage, what we look at is what the miners are signaling. And miners consist of those that are actually mining, and they point their hardware equipment and electricity towards a mining pool. The way a mining pool works is a mining pool is, if you're mining, um, you want to make sure that you receive some Bitcoin, even if you don't, you know, if you don't win that block reward every time, you know, every 10 minutes when you're mining, and so a mining pool normalizes your income. You can point your hash power as a miner towards a mining pool, and those mining pools then have a po, an important power. You know, they can then, um, they can, uh, signal.

Now, the most important miners and mining pools are Foundry, which is connected to Digital Currency Group and Barry Silbert. Um, now they were behind SegWit 2X and they tried to concentrate all the corporate power in the last, in the last block war debate. Um, and then they launched their own mining operations and Foundry. So that is kind of the US corporate power aligned. Now today, we've got MicroStrategy, and we got BlackRock, and we got bigger and bigger players. Um, but they're, you know, kind of the corporate aligned part of the hash power, um, and the, and the mining pools. Then you've got other ones which were mainly from, uh, what I call the China aligned, Bitmain, Jihan Wu, if you were around in the last block war, you know, the large Bitmain miners that produced the ASICs, they have the mining pools, and they engage in mining. Now, a lot of the mining went from China over to America, that created some of these big, and that's why Foundry became more important. But this is Antpool, this is ViaBTC, this is F2Pool. These kind of came from, you know, the, the Chinese scene, um, and have changed over time. Uh, but a lot of them were aligned with the historical big box. So, these are the ones that historically had to do the last minute, um, signal change. Um, and in the case of, which is the largest public companies, and you got MARA, which has its own pool, and then Luxor, um, and then you got the resistance, and the resistance comes from Ocean, and Ocean has a very small minority here, about 1 to 2%, and obviously they're signaling, uh, for BIP 110. And so at the moment, there is very, very small signaling. It doesn't really matter, um, if that continues as the way that happens, then this just moves, moves on. We've got that block when we need to watch, which is around about, uh, August, August the 7th, which is just around the corner. And so far, it's only really Ocean, um, which is connected to BIP 110, that's creating the resistance. Everyone else is waiting for the block, um, and deciding where they're going to sit there. And so, as I said, the threshold for BIP 110 is now 55%, and 55% signaling is the next step. So if it is activated, then after this block in September, uh, we have the activation of BIP 110. Then the core developers, they decide what they're going to do, and then there may be some resistance against it. Um, and then this BIP 110 is a temporary soft fork for one year. Um, and now whether that leads to a hard fork where you get a couple of coins, we covered that last week. That's a game theory. I don't really want to go through all of that right now. But the point is that this is what we're waiting for next. We're waiting for, do we get to 55% signaling before that block, which happened around August the 7th? And if we don't, what happens after that? Um, and so it is, you know, an automatic expiry after that one year as well if it's not renewed. So, um, if we don't get that 55% signaling, then Bitcoin is unchanged, and we look for what if there's another resistance that's built up, and everything continues. And so that's the next thing just for us to watch. Um, and yeah, and so we'll see, does the debate continue? There are a couple of resistance that can come from that. If we do get the 55% minor signaling and it does activate, uh, then we might get a user resisted soft fork against BIP 110, uh, that's not automatic, or there may be another, um, type of resistance attempt, uh, after this. Now, we'll see. Um, but all of those are possible, and there may be more pop, possible, um, opposition that organizes. But this is how the decentralized, uh, Bitcoin improvement proposals, uh, works, and you know, the developers are able to implement that, and then the miners are able to signal, and then the nodes are able to resist and decide what rules to enforce. Um, so let's watch. This is how social consensus works. Um, and, uh, the most important thing that I think came out of this is everyone having a greater understanding of governance and maintaining the fact that whenever miners get centralized, whenever nodes get centralized, whenever development gets centralized, then we have these resistance movements that then leads to a social consensus.

Now, there was one more topic. So that's what we're watching out for next, um, that I wanted to cover, and that's what happened with, uh, Coldcard. So if you have a hardware wallet called Coldcard, um, there was an announcement that was announced that, uh, if you have a version of Coldcard, um, and, uh, I just want to go through what I saw here. Please do your own research. I can't guarantee that this is accurate. You can't use this information to hold me accountable. I just want to make sure that this is under your radar in case you use, uh, Coldcard as your hardware wallet.

And so what actually happened? Well, when you set up a hardware wallet, uh, there is your Bitcoin is your keys, and your job is to protect your keys. And so you either give your keys to somebody else, which is holding them on an exchange or a centralized wallet like Coinbase, or you hold your own keys. Now, if you don't hold your own keys, you don't get to participate. You don't get to run nodes. You you are subordinate to whoever is holding your keys, and all the confiscation rules, bankruptcies, like what happened in the Celsius side, whatever can happen whenever you have some Bitcoin with someone else. So when you hold your own keys, one way of holding them is through a hardware wallet. And a hardware wallet just protects your keys, and it gives you a way of accessing your key, um, via a hardware wallet with a password on it. Um, and it gives you also a way of generating what's called a seed phrase. A seed phrase is a way, a bunch of words that give you access to your key. And so if you lose your hardware wallet, for example, your key is not on the hardware wallet. Your key is just a conduit, sorry, your hardware wallet is just a conduit to your key to protect it. But when you, um, load your Bitcoin onto a hardware wallet, you enter your seed phrase. And your seed phrase is a way of getting through the keys. Sorry if this is geeky and technical. Um, I do have a completely free course that I did in the Bitcoin, sorry, in the Simon Dixon Hard Talk membership portal, where I got Andreas Antonopoulos and myself and, uh, others to create a whole.

free course, like eight videos on cold wallets and and these types of things and additional security you can have on top. So, uh, you can head over to simonixon.com, it's completely free. Uh, become a member and you can access that course as well.

Um, but the when you when you use a hardware wallet, you've got a couple of ways of using it. You either already have um the phrase the passphrase of a previous key or you use the wallet to generate it. And what apparently happened with Colecard based upon the information that I can see the seed phrase generation tool that they were using unique to cold card um the seed phrase basically it was called entropy it had a a flaw there was an entropy flaw um and that's what happened and I want you to go do your own research anyway.

So what actually what this meant is that some wallets uh were compromised based upon if they used this wallet to generate a seed phrase. If you didn't use this wallet to generate a seed phrase, then apparently you're not affected by this. And also it's a specific version uh because the wallet upgraded its version prior uh before that as well. Um so some wallets were compromised. Um and who was it? So apparently the affected uh cold card um was if you generated seeds between a particular time and I want you to go don't rely on me for this. I just want you to point to this so that you can follow the threads and get the official updates um from others that are following this. Um but if you imported your seed then apparently you're not affected. Um, so if you use between a particular date, if you got your wallet after, please don't quote me on this, 2023, then apparently they made an upgrade that doesn't affect this. So it was those, I believe, between 21 and 21 and 23 that generated a phrase using cold card. That's the specific attack vector. Allegedly um there are you know the the the the hack exploit was able to drain that based upon those those exploits.

Um now other hardware wallets uh they don't use apparently um the same thing and again you can't rely on me for any of this. This is you doing your own research. I just want to make sure that the information is in front of you. Um what I found out and what I've gathered from this because I wanted to give you some of the information. the seed generation implementations that cold card used at that time is what you should be checking for um whether you know there are different ways of generating those phrase. You can roll a dice and do it. If you did that no problem. It is using that particular wallet to generate the seed phrase and that software is what had the compromise. So apparently what people say as well is that there's no uh similar vulnerabilities have been announced with any other wallets. Um anyone else it's that's what it's been uh you know isolated down to right now.

But what I want you to do is if you have a hardware wallet I want you to ask AI about this. I want you to research some of the official announcements on this and I want you to ask your hardware wallet provider um how you know entropy is generated um and how it's audited on their wallet and ask them specifically about this and grow comfortable with that answers. Um and so that's the piece of the exercise that I'd like you to do if you're using a hardware wallet.

Now what have they recommended? Well, what they've recommended and what Cold Card have recommended as well is to update the firmware um and to generate a new seed and in a calm environment um move your funds over after generating that new seed in a new environment. And this is an opportunity for you to go to the next grade of security. Learn and ask the questions. How was that seed phrase generated? How do I do it better? um and uh you know and uh learn from this process and that's uh the the way to do that.

Um now before you send any funds always do a test transaction whenever you send Bitcoin it's irreversible so you should always do a test transaction um and then verify the backup. So that's your homework.

Um longer term you really want to be considering um you know whether you want to use a multi- signature setup and we did discuss this in the in the free course. Um you can start seeing if this is an opportunity uh for you to do that but this would have been protected. The other way is when you're generating your seed phrase, um, use dice in order to do that. Um, and you can start researching that.

Um, but anyway, these are the types of solution and the most important thing is to use this opportunity to learn a bit more about key generation. Um, and so that's what I wanted to leave you with anyway and also a very important message. Nothing to do with Bitcoin. This isn't a Bitcoin hack. Bitcoin didn't fail. Uh this is a specific implementation of a specific hardware for those that use a specific method for generating a key and um there's been a compromise um which meant that uh those bitcoins were drained by by the hacker as well. Okay. So, uh, the types of things anyway, key generation matters, that's the the homework for you. Uh, don't rely upon the one seed.

Um, look at multi- signature. And let's close all this together because this is everything I've got for you until we move over to part two. Um, so I'd like to close off by the markets. The reason that there was the wrecking of the hedge fund is because of leverage. And leverage is where you always get done borrowing against your Bitcoin uh using derivatives. It's the key tool of the financial industrial complex to get hold of your assets. So if you are using leverage, which I don't think you should be, um if you are using leverage, make sure you never end up in a position where everything can get wrecked. That's the message from the hedge fund casualty because the fick is ready to swoop up.

Um, is this a leverage unwind or is this an AI collapse? I think we got further to go. Uh, but we'll keep following the institutional capital in order to follow that as well.

Um, on the Bitcoin side, watch BIP 110 um over the next 1 to two weeks. What happens with those mining pools?

Um, in the security side, review your uh, self-custody setup. Um, understand your key seed generation is your homework. um and consider multi- signature on the geopolitics side. Let's keep watching the incentives um over the headlines. Don't get distracted by the headlines. People want you thinking that this is going to World War II. People think this is um they're analyzing it from the perspective of emotions. We are humans. We have emotions.

Um, but when you follow the money, it helps you understand the truth and it helps you take a step back. Um, watch the choke points. Those are the most important things. How are those resolved? What is the structure of it? And who ends up in control of them? That sets the world order. Uh, watch the Israeli politics leading up to October. Don't believe what they're saying. See what's happening in actuality.

Um, and watch the evolving relationship between the FIC and the Mick in relation to the big investment contracts and rebuild contracts. That's what's going to set this regional transition and the regional transition is still unfolding as my analysis has said because the markets is telling us that.

Um, and so that's where I want to end right now before we go into part two and the interview. Right. What I wanted to do um to cap off is I wanted to do a big a bit of a reveal on what the book is about. and it's actually going to lead to another book uh because I wanted to really go in depth into the Bitcoin side, but I thought it needed its own book.

Um, so I'm going to be revealing what this is about and I'd love your feedback in the comments and I'd love your feedback in the membership portal on simonixon.com. Now I'm going to the my team what they've done is they've taken all the feedback in the membership portal, given me a model and I've been feeding that into the AI when I'm writing my book. At the same time, I've also built out a model that you're going to be able to use in terms of these different parameters.

So, let me explain the book to you a little bit more and then I'd love to get some of your feedback both in the comments and some longer feedback in the free Simon Dixon uh membership portal. So the book is called uh game of money and uh it's about becoming starting point subordinate to becoming sovereign and it's broken down into three parts and there's going to be 21 chapters, seven chapters per part and each part deals with a different part of the game of money. And the goal is to give you all the tools that you need on this spectrum from subordinate to sovereign, knowing that you're never going to be fully sovereign, but give you everything you need on that journey. And then really explaining it from real life experience that's happened to me, as well as using it to analyze events in real time so that you've got all the models and everything that I use. And then I've even asked AI to put together some models so that we can open source it and we can start to use it.

Um, and this will really help us in our Simon Dixon hard talk lives if I give you access to those tools. So I hope you understand why me taking the time out and not following all the news. I I gave you one today, but I've been taking the time out to really get this done because I really want to produce something useful in this transition because I do believe we're in a massive change.

And so what is part one? Well, part one is about understanding the game. So, I want you to understand, chapter one is about defining the game of money. Uh, chapter two is about the spectrum. I want you to understand what it means to be subordinate and what it means to be sovereign and um what that actually means, what that spectrum is um on every level. Chapter three, I then go through the financial industrial complex, the FIC, and define it very specifically in terms of a model so that we can analyze power dynam dynamics and we can analyze our subordination to the FIC. In chapter four, I do the military-industrial complex, the Mick. In chapter five, I do the technical industrial complex, the dick, and I outline it very very specifically.

Um, who the players are, what you need to understand, how to analyze them, um, and how it relates back to you. Importantly, um, there's another thing I do in every chapter. I gave I give you a way to win the game. And by the end, we have 21 ways to win the game. And then that builds into a model and a plan that you can put together um in order to get yourself from subordinate to sovereign. So in chapter six I cover the alliance. I talk about how the fick, the mick and the tix and they how they all work together and how they move together as one and how it doesn't require a grand conspiracy. Then in chapter 7 I answer that question. who's actually on top specific, the owners and the controllers. Who are the people that really run the game?

Um, and who runs the world? And I go very specifically into those dynamics and how they work together. And then that sets up everything into understanding the game of money.

In part two, now we understand the game, we have to understand the rules. So part two is all about learning the rules. Now you know the the rules. Once I know the rules, I then know how to analyze. And so it starts again with an analytical framework in chapter 8. Follow the money.

Um, this is the method and the the method that I've been using. Um, then in chapter nine, we go through how it applies to each of the markets. So when I'm discussing on Simon Dixon Hard Talk, I may be discussing a number of markets. What are the real things that I'm looking for in getting an overview um of what's actually happening in the market so I can follow the money. So, chapter 9 is about the debt market. Chapter 10 is about the commodity market. Chapter 10 is about the currency market. Sorry, that was chapter 11. Chapter 12 is about the bond market.

Um, and chapter 12 is about the equity market. Um, I think I've messed that up. Anyway, do you get the point? I do all the different markets. Chapter 13 is the equity market anyway. And then it ends on chapter 14, the asset managers and how to read the asset managers so that you can then interpret what's happening with with with real money, the capital as we always do. And so I've really uh defined all those there. But I've also done it with a live case study uh where I I I I actually ran a model on all the different countries um many of the different businesses, all the key important nodes and individuals and I stress tested it in the model um and ended up with a model that you can use because I've been inputting it all into um AI in order to build that algorithm and then we'll create a nice user interface at the end of it.

Um, then in chapter so that's uh chapter 14. Uh, so we follow the money and then we end up with all the different markets and and we test it in real time with real events that are happening right now. Then we move over to the third and final part. So you understand the game of money. You know the rules. So what's part three? Of course it's winning the game. How do you win the game of money? That's the whole purpose. Why do we try and understand all this?

So chapter 15 is what I call the sovereign mind. Um, I want you to have a framework for understanding how to see past conspiracy theories, see past scops, um, and see past media manipulation, political manipulation and really tune your mind to win this game because in the end it is a mental game. It is a um that uh we need to win. So in uh chapter 15 we do the sovereign mind. In chapter 16 we go through the sovereign individual. So how to build yourself um through that spectrum from subordinate to sovereign. In chapter 17 we go through the sovereign business and structuring and how to use um those tools. In chapter 18 we go through the sovereign country and how to select your country um and your jurisdictions that you can use. Uh chapter 19 we go through the sovereign assets um how to allocate like an asset manager and what assets make you more sovereign, which ones make you more subordinate and how to manage those allocations. In chapter 20, we go through the sovereign soul. This is the real game.

Um, this is what I really want to get to and make sure you have all the tools um to get there. And then finally, in chapter 21, we cover the 21 ways to win the game of money. And that brings you through the whole book. And what I um said, I'm building out a I'm feeding everything into AI as I'm reading it, building out an algorithm, and then I'm going to ask AI to build a free tool um that uh we'll release out there um for anyone to have a a way of measuring continually um your subordination and your sovereignity um and how to what decisions you can make to go along that spectrum.

Um, so that's everything that I've been working through and I'd love your feedback on what you think about that, what you'd like to see, what you think is missing, what you think is should be included. And there's two ways to do that. Put a quick comment uh down, but it won't be included in the the AI scraping.

Uh, or go over to simonixon.com, create a free membership for you and I'll make sure you get priority notice, you get um access to contributing to topics in the book, you get content that you can't get anywhere else. It's all completely free. You get that course on self-custody and how to protect yourself uh from these uh different setups and situations. um and uh many of my previous content and even a free copy of the book that I wrote in 2011, Bank to the Future: Protect Your Future Before Governments Go Bust. You can take the PDF, put it into AI, and even analyze it against my latest book as it comes out.

So, that's everything I've got for you. Um, always remember, you are alive in one of the most interesting and exciting times in financial history. Some are going to get wrecked, others are going to do really well. I want to make sure you're on the right side of that change.

Um, and really the whole purpose of me writing that book, as I've covered in previous videos, was that 26 years ago, my father asked me what happened to my money. He didn't know how the game worked. He didn't know the rules, and he didn't know how to win. And so, in this book, I finally answer that question. um he passed away before I got to give him the question. But it was in that passing and this is the part of the sovereign soul um that I really figured out what the game really means and the message that I'd like to uh pass on to him. And so in answering his question, I've answered a question for everybody uh that wants to follow me.

And so if you want more people to understand the answer to that question, I ask you a favor. Uh, please like this video. Please share this video with anyone that you think would get value from it. Uh, please head over to download this um on uh Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

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So, I hope that uh, you enjoyed this. We've been taking smaller content. I wanted to give you a Simon Dixon hard talk. And now we'll move over to the interview where we delve into an insider inside the media machine. Um, asking me some questions and ask sharing our experiences and why I believe that politicians are paid for rent prostitutes. Enjoy the interview and I'll see you uh this time next week on Simon Dixon Hard Talk Live with more updates. Peace.

Politicians are paid for rent prostitutes. That was a quote that came out from me when I was invited by a media insider, an ex insider that was inside the media machine, James Delingpole, when he invited me on his podcast to apply my analysis as an ex insider of the financial industrial complex to all sorts of topics, whether it be COVID, whether it be the Russia Ukraine war, whether it be the Iran war. We applied the model and I got full confirmation that that's exactly how the blackmail operations inside the media machine work. Welcome to the Del Pod, Simon Dixon. I've been really I mean I know I always say this about my special guests, but I have been really looking forward to having you on and I've been trying to get you for some time and I think you're you're quite popular. I follow you on on Twitter and you generally say some pretty I mean punchy things which I like.

Um, but before we talk about the uh the financial industrial complex and the and the military industrial complex, because I'm I'm dying to know what the story is on them, um, just just tell me a bit about yourself, your your background, how you came to doing all this.

>> Yeah, sure. Um I always tell my origin story where it started which was 25 years ago uh actually 26 years ago now when um uh my father lost everything he learned his entire life for in the dotcom boom and bust um and it was such a traumatic experience um and I was uh 19 years old at the time um that uh he asked me um son what happened to my money um and ever since then I've done nothing but very unhealthily obsess um over finance. So uh the first thing I tried to do was get a job at the firm that he lost all his money from, which was a stock broker called TD Waterhouse.

Um and uh then I worked as a market maker on the London Stock Exchange. Then I worked in investment banking taking companies public and uh when I figured out how the game worked, I left in 2006. Um and uh I was uh um trying to change bank and I joined like the banking reform movements at this stage that were available.

Um and that kind of drove you into a lot of the gold bugs and people that were discussing how uh money works and like the Austrian school of economics and various other things.

Um and uh but uh I realized that uh actually all the politicians are bought by bankers.

Um, and I also realized that um, the people that were investigating the financial crisis that came were the same people that came from the institutions that created the financial crisis. And so I I realized that the that there's no banking reform. There's no political solution.

Um, what they teach you in economics um is sponsored by banks. um what they when you work in the system you understand that no one really understands the entire cog um and so I tried to actually create a bank um and so um we applied for a banking license with the bank of England to create a non-fractional reserve bank and they told us to apply you need to put $60 million in the Bank of England uh then you can't build a non-fractional reserve bank you have to build it on top of an existing bank that already clears into our system.

Um, and so then basically you couldn't build it. It was impossible to build a sustainable what I considered sustainable bank. And so that kind of left me in a an air of hopelessness.

Um, and it was at that moment when um I was invited to speak at the first Bitcoin conference in Europe when Bitcoin was about $3. And I wrote a book called Bank to the Future, Protect Your Future Before Governments Go Bust.

Um, and um we pivoted the company bank the bank that we couldn't get a banking license for.

Um, and we ended up investing in many many fintech companies and many of the largest Bitcoin companies over a hundred of them.

Um, and uh as Bitcoin succeeded um we went through this whole journey really of uh uh discovering that the only way to change the banking system is actually to leave it as it is, exit and leave it to implode.

Um, and so that kind of brings us where we are right now where um the I I'm I'm writing my next book on this concept of everything I've learned from the last 26 years and how this financial industrial complex works.

Cuz over that whole journey um you know I was working with uh presidents like Becklli on the Bitcoin strategic reserves and Bitcoin bonds. I got chased out of the UK by Boris Johnson um and the Bank of England.

>> you got chased out by Boris.

>> Yeah. I mean he invited me to um discuss how uh you know what what types of financial innovation could be used in the UK.

Um, and I shared that we you know the the concepts of equity crowdfunding and various other things.

Uh, and he liked the concepts.

Uh, but then I told him about like Bitcoin and talked about a Bitcoin strategy of how you can do it without the banks.

Um, and from that moment the FCA uh contacted us.

The company was called Bank to the Future. He he said he loved the name and he launched a campaign around how to fund businesses called Bus to the Future.

Um, and uh and then suddenly our license um was pulled into question.

Um, and so I ended up leaving, moving to Hong Kong and reinccorporating the company with foreign regulators.

Um, and never returned to the UK since.

Um, one of the things I did actually was supporting the aisle of man in making Bitcoin legal tender and the government actually did it.

Uh, but just as uh the implementation phase came uh they passed they started updating the laws.

And then the Bank of England contacted the government and said, "If you do this, then we're going to remove the clearing to all of your banks on the entire island." And so they weaponized the bank's pound through his clearing into the Bank of England in order to, uh, make sure that none of it actually happened.

Um, so really, uh, for 26 years I've been in a battle, um, against the banks and now I just sit outside the system to the degree that's possible.

Um, and try and help people become more and more sovereign and free um from the forces that bankrupted my father really.

>> So this is this is a cheeky question but I mean are you worth squillians?

I I don't disclose my net worth. But if you look back if you look back at my YouTube channel um the very first um com the very first um presentation I gave at that Bitcoin conference um I've been telling people to buy Bitcoin every single month regardless of price and Bitcoin was $3 at that and I still follow this advice to to this day.

>> Oh, what's it what what is it worth today? About is it 60,000 something like that?

>> Yeah. So, the all-time high is $125,000 and it's now at about $63,000 last time I checked.

>> And is it going to in your view going to go much higher than $120,000?

>> I really um don't like to say that, but the properties of Bitcoin are properties that I believe in. There's a fixed supply. There's only ever going to be 21 million of them.

Um, and every single year, ever since I've been involved, people discover new reasons why they need to own their own money without a bank in the middle that can censor your Trent.

Um, they need they discover more and more reasons why they need to be able to spend money peer-to-peer without a government telling you how you can spend your money. and they become more and more reasons why they uh understand the value of a fixed supply asset that no one can change a monetary policy and there's no central banker or centralized authority. My my thesis is that every year that becomes more and more useful.

Um, but the price is determined by how many people want to buy it versus how many want to sell and that changes all the time. So, I I don't want this to be a an incredibly involved Bitcoin conversation because I think we've got more interesting stuff to talk about, but are you not of the view? Well, obviously you're not of the view that that that Bitcoin was always created by the same people we're railing against in the banking system and and that they've got a back door that that somehow this they can rig that one too and it's all part of this transition to CBDC's etc etc.

>> Uh both actually. So I have a nuanced view.

Um I do believe that the predecessor to Bitcoin was Digicash and that tried to create private currency on top of the banking system. It was shut down. It was founded by a g guy called David Chom.

Um if you look at David Chom, he was a teacher around cryptography um in Netherlands. And one of his students was a guy called Len Sasserman who I believe to be Satoshi Nakamoto.

Um and Len Sassimon um was assassinate no sorry let me get that right uh committed suicide one month after the first developer went to meet with the CIA Gavin Andre.

Um I believe that Bitcoin was a breakaway project from what's being built today. that the goal was to follow the work of DigiCash, which was shut down because the banks were able to shut it down and build stable coins and central bank digital currencies. And then Sassimon, who I believe to be Satoshi Nakamoto, that's my opinion, I couldn't prove it.

Um released a white paper that showed how you can make it fully decentralized where you have miners that are geog that can be anywhere in the world um that can mine the new supply. You have open-source code where any developer can contribute to the code in an open source project and you have the rules being enforced by nodes um where anyone can run a node and enforce the the rules and if you ever want to change a rule you have to submit an open-source uh contribution the miners then need to mine it and the nodes enforce the code that's impossible to have a back door when you understand the architecture and so I believe that Bitcoin was a breakaway from what they are building today, which is the digital surveillance grid, which is stable coins and central bank digital currencies.

Um, and Bitcoin get that exit. And if you look at everything that's happening today, um, they're really trying to centralize as much of that Bitcoin as possible in Wall Street rappers because they don't want you to own it in self-custody the way the Bitcoin was originally designed. They want to hold it for you because they want to do to Bitcoin what they attempted to do to gold, which is create a paper version of it um so that they can manipulate the short-term price. That implies to me that Bitcoin and self- custody used the way it was originally designed um was not something they wanted.

Um, and that's why I believe it was a breakaway project and why it was released as a as a white paper.

>> and that's why Russan committed suicide.

>> Um, well, you know, I don't wish to say that because he does have living family today and his family denies that he's Satoshi.

>> Um, I just find the sequence of events to be the most compelling case. And uh I've spent um uh you know I got involved in Bitcoin in 2011. So I spent 15 years um and invested in 100 companies in the sector and met many of the early developers at a squat at an old street in London when it first came around and to me it's the it's the it's the most logical story but I can't prove it.

>> Yeah. I I was I was quite I mean I I got into Bitcoin when it was about $300. I I can't make the $3 boast. And I I got into it because I wanted to be able to buy weed off the uh off off the dark web. I think I think a lot a lot of the early adopters of Bitcoin came into it that way.

>> Yeah. So, Sil Silk Road was really the first use case um that got adoption and Silk Road there were a couple of use cases that got the early adoption which is where Bitcoin gets its reputation. When you create money you can own, money you can spend, um, then all the use cases where censorship exists the most is where people tended to use it in the early days, which was buy things that government says you're not allowed to buy online, which was Silk Road.

Um, and also it Satoshi dice was one of the early use cases where you could trace on a blockchain whether the gambling site was rigging the game.

Um, and so you could have transparency in terms of the odds.

Uh, and you could basically pay poker and and gamble with Bitcoin in a way that made it transparent um, whether they were rigging the game.

Um, so these these were like the early cases.

Um, interestingly, the founder of um, Silk Road, Ross Albbright, um, yeah, he was recently pardoned as one of the first things that the Trump administration did.

Um, and uh, you know, um, it's a it's a very interesting full circular story that we're um, that we're witnessing right now with some of these early use cases.

>> I always felt very sorry for Ross. Is that how you pronounce it? Albbright.

>> Ross Albbright. Yeah.

>> Um, I always felt very sorry for him, but was my was my sympathy misplaced? I mean, was is he a goodie or is he is he secretly another part part of their system? pick your flavor really.

Um, some people believe that uh you know he was a freedom fighter, a libertarian um and people spent their life trying to help him get out of prison which he achieved.

Um, you know and uh you know others would say he was in America while launching the Silk Road and he was located right next to the FBI head office.

Um, and so whether it was a honeypot, you know, in Bitcoin, we often have we're a very skeptical community because we study how the system works.

Um, and we've been constantly under attack by intelligence agencies and infiltration operations.

Um, and so people will have different theories and uh I don't have evidence either way.

Um but uh you know I I think um if you live in a country like America uh you know it's a bit stupid to break the law and be next to the feds and be in a position where um you know it's it's quite a suspicious story put it that way but um either way I can only speculate.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

Um, you mentioned the Bank of England earlier on. I suppose that's as good a way as any to start. Who who owns the Bank of England? I mean, it it's not us, the people, is it? It's not it's not the British people.

>> Well, um, actually, so it was created in 1694 when William Patterson, the private bank, wanted to lend money to King Charles.

Um, and the collateral that was used to form the Bank of England, uh, was created out of thin air and it was rehypothecated and it was a 1.2 million pound loan.

Um and uh really it was a mechanism for allowing for the funding of war. So there was a a very nice cozy relationship between the Bank of England, the British East India Company um and the the the government, the crown.

Um and um that was that the the government needed money for funding war without going to the people and trying to issue bonds because it's very unpopular to go to war and people think it's a waste of money.

Um, and so it's very hard to raise finance when you disclose the war that you want to go to. Plus, much of it was for mercantalism to steal other people's gold or rage opium wars and get Chinese addicted to opium or um facilitate transatlantic slave trade or steal India's gold and pretend you were exporting tea when you were exporting drugs. You know, these things aren't very popular and so you need a private company to do that, which was the British East India Company.

Um and the Bank of England was the mechanism for obuscating how people were losing value in their currency.

Um, and they could raise finance for the war and then it could leave the debt on the government but transfer the wealth over to the Brit the British East India Company. And so it was a modern form of what we have today, socializing losses and privatizing gains without the people knowing that there's this very elaborate money laundering scheme happening through these institutions.

Um, now over time uh under Gordon Brown um it was actually nationalized uh but there was also another company if you look up on company's house um called the Bank of England nominees limited. I can't quite remember. It's a long time since I've looked at this. It's all from memory.

Um, where but the the important part is that the government can own it and be the shareholder but there's a nominee company where those shares are not disclosed.

Um, which could point bank to legacy financiers or it could point bank back to the crown itself.

Um, these aren't disclosed. It's a special type of company. But the most important thing is that the institutions that get to create the fiat currency where the Bank of England socializes the losses and privatize the gains are all located in a special jurisdiction called the city of London. And the city of London is a different country in itself with its own laws uh with its own thing and even the crown needs permission to enter the city of London. It's a square mile with 700 banks and financial institutions.

Um, and it's actually got its own jurisdiction, not to be confused with London or United Kingdom or England.

Um, and so you see these halos like the Vatican um with the Vatican Bank where much of the drug dealing and laundering happens. um Switzerland with the Bank for International Settlements which was set up in post World War I to manage a reparations connected to Rice Bank, the German central bank um that also funded the Hitler regime and fascism as well as many of the wars like the Boleviks to overthrow and install the Soviet Union in Russia as well as create the Federal Reserve with the Warbergs in America.

Um, and so these same, you know, legacy institutions um were there in order to finance wars, launder money and obuscate it.

Um, the reality of this happening and that still is a structure that I believe exists today. But mainly the Bank of England feeds up to their they're a shareholder in the Bank for International Settlements and the largest shareholder for the Bank for International Settlements is the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve is owned by the Clearing member banks that are all public companies and their largest shareholder is Black Rockck, State Street and Vanguard if you follow the money.

>> Yeah, that sounds um labyrinthine. um presumably by design. Have you have you just described the essence of the um the financial industrial complex?

>> Uh what I call the financial industrial complex is a set of institutions that are in aligned by incentives whereby the incentives enforce the power structure. And so rather being like people think of it as like a committee of 300 in a room that determine whether there's wars or there's not wars. and it's more of like an organized cabal. I follow it from incentives and gain theory.

Um, and so central banking is absolutely the root of the system because it socializes the losses and privatize the gains. It sets the price of money that determines when you can rugpool the government and move to a new order or not.

Um, but you can use it to asset strip the economy for everything it's worth.

Um, and you can load the government up with debt and privatize all the gains. That process consists of a new um a series of financial institutions. The private commercial banks create the fiat currency. They create money every time they issue a loan. And it's a Ponzi scheme.

There's not enough money to pay off all the debt they create. So you have to roll over the debt.

>> Um in order to roll it over, you need to uh basically securitize and financialize every business. That's what the investment bank does. It turns them into public companies. then you can install your own board and then the executives work for you.

Um, you need to control the price which is the hedge fund industry and the derivatives market. There are many times more derivatives than there are underlying products whether it be shares, whether it be commodities, uh, whatever it may be.

Um, you also have the asset managers. They pull together everybody's money and then you give them your voting rights and the ability to install a board. And so then through these funds they get to allocate all the capital. And so right now they control 50% of all the capital that's allocated through ETFs.

Um, and so the financial industrial complex the institutions change the power changes based upon you know the the how many shares you own in the system.

Um, but the financial industrial complex remains and it sits above governments. In fact, it controls governments.

Um, so the financial lobbies are some of the most powerful lobbies and pro um politicians are just paid for rent prostitutes. The power changes based upon, you know, the the how many shares you own in the system.

Um, but the financial industrial complex remains and it sits above governments. In fact, it controls governments.

Um so the financial lobbies are some of the most powerful lobbies and pro um politicians are just paid for rent prostitutes. And so what you do is you create a network of non-governmental organizations and think tanks. You write the policies, you sponsor the politicians to get your policy through through lobby financing.

Um, and then you change the laws through whether it be House of Lords in the case of UK or whether it be Senate in the case of US.

Um, and uh through some of the companies under your structure. So think of all the companies are public. Many of them are military companies. Those military companies like Loheed Martin, BA systems, General Dynamic. They have access to what we could call the deep state, CIA, MSAD, MI6. And so through these intelligence networks, they're able to launch covert wars and overt wars as well.

Um, and but you can control these processes through access to capital. And so most of what people focus on is their focus on a power structure that is subordinate to another power structure. You know, we all winge and moan about the government. We all winge and moan about Karma, Rishi Shunak or Boris Johnson when really they answer to greater powers and Liz Truss in the case of the UK found that out very easily.

Um, when when the Bank of England said no that's not the right policy you know even now we've just had another regime change we've had seven regime changes in 10 years in the UK um and uh Kitorma you know what was his contribution he mainly prior to being the president sorry prime minister I get I get the the two a bit mixed up I become a bit too Americanized here um the prime minister um you know he tried to take down Julian Assange which was revealing all the crime crimes against humanity that the military-industrial complex were committing in the Middle East.

Um, and he tried to put in a sex offender allegation on top of Julian Assange. Now, what was Karma's biggest contribution and most impactful policy? Well, of course, it was spreading the lie that the Britain is defending democracy in Ukraine while it laundered significant funds up to military contractors that they're still doing to this day um in order to prop up the stock market and value of many of the military companies while the Bank of England printed the money and we use the country as a collateralized debt obligation to issue IMF debt so that Black Rockck ends up with all the resources that Russia doesn't have left. and he'll he'll fight that to the last Ukrainian and then we just get another regime change when people start to figure out the jig. And so now you have a white nationalist uprising with Rupert Low or Nigel Farage and everyone says it's the immigrants why this is happening and they create a new other and a new story and nothing changes because you're always looking at the other or you're looking at the politician when the politician is a prostitute for real power, the financial industrial complex.

>> Yeah. I at what point do you reckon in their careers do the politicians realize what the game is? I mean Boris Johnson for example, do you think he always knew what the deal was and was just waiting for his turn at the trough when he became prime minister or do you think it came as a shock to him to realize no hang on a second you don't get to make decisions that you're in hop to this to this labyrinthine system?

>> I think both. So um they groom politicians. So if you look at for example JD Vance he was groomed by Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is part of Palunteer the technical industrial complex the police and surveillance state. Other nodes that Peter Thiel was connected with is Elon Musk and um David Sachs all people that were involved in the PayPal mafia.

So they represent a faction of power like the technical industrial complex. They're subordinate to Fick as well because they need access to capital.

Um, but you groom them. So sometimes you make JD Vance, you give him a new name. That's not his name.

Um, you give him a venture capital.

>> What is his name?

>> Uh, I I can't remember off memory. I'm sure AI will tell you what his real name is or uh people could put it in the comments.

Um, but that was his his uh his

stage name, right? Um, and uh, then he was given a venture capital fund. Um, and he was made vice president. Um, and uh, at what stage in the process will they align your financial incentives? And I think the higher you go, the more compromised you become at a faster rate. You know, this was really one of the many operations we focus on, Jeffrey Epstein, but there are many more. Uh, Jeffrey Epstein is just one of many. Um, these are network blackmail operations to compromise people, and it starts small. Um, you finance someone's campaign, then they have to try and get your policy through. If they successfully manufacture a narrative that they pretend they're working for the people while they're working for the lobby, then they become more useful to power. And so then you climb those ranks or you stay exactly where you are. As you climb the ranks, you maybe they uh introduce you to a handler, um, and then maybe you need more financing in order to get to the next stage of your political career. Maybe they can make you participate in an activity that compromises you. Uh, maybe you don't participate. Um, there's unwritten rules and incentives until eventually you're very useful to power. At that stage, you can become a prime minister and a president. And if you ever go against it, you can, um, you either don't get access to the capital. Uh, the media machine comes after you and tears you down. Um, or at the extreme, you get JFKed, um, if you take on the military-industrial complex. And so, you know, they've got a number of tools and they don't use the most extreme tools. But I recognized this when I was in investment banking. I could saw I could see very early what I needed to do to climb the ladder, and it's just an incentive mechanism that compromises you until eventually you have the share options in the bank, and you're an executive on the board, and then you're preserving the power structure that pays you, and you're more and more compromised the further you rise.

>> So, what, what, what did you have to do, or what would you have had to do to get on? What kind of things?

>> Well, um, you know, they, they test you. Um, so, you know, firstly, they take you to parties, and at those parties, many of the higher-level performers, your managers, they'll be participating in drugs, narcotics. Um, maybe there's women that are offered, maybe it leads to prostitution. Um, if you take the bite, then you're probably indoctrinated. You know, it's like a mafia, right? Um, the first thing you have to do to join the mafia is take someone out, and you have to put the tattoo on that identifies you. Um, you know, these are indications that you're willing to do what you're willing to do in order to climb the ladder. Um, and, uh, and, you know, you know, you can see the things. It's either financing, it's either incentives to get higher salaries, there's share options, financial incentives, and then they get more and more seedy, the higher you want to go, and the more, the more you want to be initiated into the power structure, where you're someone like Jamie Diamond, and you're actually a Jeffrey Epstein's banker at that stage, uh, then you need to be more and more compromised.

>> Well, how, how deep does the compromise go? I mean, are, are we talking sort of satanic ritual stuff at the higher levels?

>> Um, well, how are the, how is the deep state and the intelligence operations funded? They're funded off-balance sheet. Um, it's money that you have money, probably about 5% of their money comes from national security, the bit you can put on the balance sheet that's acceptable. The 95% comes from black ops. What are those black ops? Drug trafficking, human trafficking, weapons trafficking, sex trafficking. Um, and those operations are as seedy as you want to get. Um, and we do know, I haven't spent too much time on, like, uh, you know, these, uh, these types of satanic rituals and things, but, uh, to me, I try and think of it in terms of, yes, there could be people that are like that, or there could be a machine that encourages that type of behavior in order to get to the most compromised and the highest levels of power.

>> What are those industries worth? I mean, are they worth more than the, the non-black economy, if you add them all up?

>> Um, well, I mean, you know, we're talking, you can look at the biggest markets in the world. You've got what we, what we know, the stock market, the bond market, the FX markets. Um, I couldn't put an exact, uh, number on, on the size of the black market. Um, but we do know that the incentive structure of all these markets is because they're protected by intelligence, and it's actually a vital part of their funding. Um, how, how anyone could ever put a, a size on this, I, I don't know how anyone would come to that number. Um, but you can read, there's many books that have been written in terms of like, how these operations work.

>> And I can, I get up to a point that this system has been created and it doesn't really matter which individuals are in place because they're dispensable and they could easily be replaced by another individual, and that, and that the system attracts, um, aggressively ambitious, morality-free scumbags, basically.

>> I'd say, I'd say they manufacture them. So, you could start as just ambitious.

>> Yeah.

>> And by the time you're at the top, you're engaging in activities you never imagined you would participate in, because it is a process of incentives and manufacturing the type of person that they need in order to preserve the power structure. And the people who say no just end up being booted out or not making it, not made a senior partner, or whatever.

>> Yeah. Regime change, stuck at a lower level of the career path. Um, at its extreme, expelled, taken out, depends what you know.

>> So, what was it in you that made you resist this process? I mean, do you, did you have, do you watch all your contemporaries going, "Yeah, I'll, I'll take that. I'll take that prostitute. I'll take the, the line of Charlie. I'll take the, whatever."

>> Yeah. Um, so, you know, I, I would say that, um, my, my mission I was driven by was trying to help my father figure out how he'd lost his money. That was like my driving force.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, and I think, I think, um, some lucky accidents. Um, so, I, I told you like, um, certain things, firstly, um, there were books that I read that helped me understand the system early. So, I read like books like Michael Ral Ral Balthams, which is Grip of Death. Um, I read a lot of the books like Confessions of an Economic Hitman and various other things. So, I was able to see the system through reading and then, and then kind of have an indication of where this goes.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, and I'd say that what I've learned is there's kind of three types of people, and it's very difficult to become one of them. Um, and I was blessed to be able to become one of them. There's one type of person, which is somebody that's broke, in debt, um, lives in a country with freedom of speech and can say all this stuff, but they just yap on the internet and they have no power. Um, and they're subordinate, they're in debt. Uh, the system doesn't mind those people. Um, sometimes you have, you know, censorship regimes and various other things, but right now, they'd rather just have your social credit score and have you talking so that they can build a profile of who you are and what you think. Um, so they can weaponize it through your social credit. Um, but the other type of person they don't mind is somebody that's captured, rich and wealthy. And so if you preserve, if your wealth is attached to preserving the system, they don't mind you. You know, Elon Musk can become a trillionaire, but all of his wealth is based upon borrowing against his stock and then preserving the value of that stock, and him getting a continuation of defense contracts for the military, and then providing the data that the, that the intelligence apparatus need to build these social credit scores, um, and, uh, control grids. And so, as long as you comply, you get to pretend you're the world's first trillionaire. Um, and, uh, and, you know, you, you get to build things that you can resist against it. But when your wealth is based upon, when your net worth is determined by the preservation of the system, you're kind of just not incentivized. So, what they don't want is people that build wealth outside the system, that are not incentivized to preservation of the system.

>> Um, that can actually have enough wealth to influence politics or enough of a voice to influence change. Um, and if you do have some of those, there, there's just not that many of them where the sum of the whole system has more capital, more money, and more power than any of these whistleblowers or breakaway people. You know, these wild cards, I call them. And so they don't mind a few wild cards.

>> They don't mind loads of people that have no power that just re, that just talk. And they want, they want to make sure that the majority of the wealth is captured. Um, and so those are the three types of people. Now, the reason they want to capture Bitcoin and gold and various other things is it allows you to build wealth outside the system. And when you build wealth outside the system, you can become that type of person that they don't want you to be. And so they'd rather you have a Bitcoin ETF or a Bitcoin treasury company, um, or, uh, borrow against your Bitcoin through a loan, or, uh, or, uh, invest in some shitcoin scam that they created through Silicon Valley, um, that we're told is the next Bitcoin killer. Um, they want you gambling, degenerate, um, short-term thinking, borrowing, leveraged. They want you to have leveraged wealth. Um, and then they, they don't mind, because then you're captured into their system. So, wealth outside the system is the bit they don't want, and they don't want a lot of people. Uh, they can handle a few.

>> Well, literally, they don't want a lot of people. I mean, they, they, they want, they want to kill us one way or the other, whether it's war or vaccines or whatever.

>> Yeah. I mean, look, there's, there's different agendas here as well. So, when we say they, there are lots of competing agendas.

>> Their game is ruthless. If you're trying to climb to the top of the Mick, the military-industrial complex, the Tick, the technical industrial complex, or the Fick, the financial industrial complex, these guys are ruthless. Like, they're playing a game against each other. They're trying to survive and provide more value and power. But the, what it's really measured by is, I'd say at the very top of the chain is assets under management. And right now, BlackRock's winning that game. Um, and so, but they're playing a ruthless game as well. They can be taken out. Um, you know, um, in, in their place. So, they have to, you know, you're, you're, you're not going to be taken out if you're, um, not that important. Put it that way, you know. And they, and right now, the game has changed because I think it used to be like, um, the American Empire was built upon military power, like the Mick. But when we left the gold standard, the Fick dominated the Mick, uh, because there was no constraint on government spending, and so Fick financialized everything, uh, from that moment. Um, then it became like the petrodollar, and, and, uh, the backbone was energy. Um, but, uh, now we're moving towards algorithm and data being more important, which is the Tick. And so, really, the Tick just wants data. And so, we used to be under an agenda of censorship and control of media, and you still have those oper, you know, the traditional media is still controlled by its sponsors and the capital markets that it serves. Um, the alternative media is really more, uh, it's more powerful, uh, because you can incentivize the speech that you want through algorithm. And so, rather than giving people, you can give people freedom of speech. Say whatever you want, but we won't give you freedom of reach. To get reach, you need to say what we need you to say. And we can also radicalize you through what content we give you into the most radical version of yourself. And then we can compartmentalize you into a box. You're far right. You're radical left. You're anti-Muslim. You're anti-Zionist. Um, and they compartmentalize you into the most radical version of yourself by continually feeding you content that reinforces the most radical version of you. And then you just point at the other. This is a classic divide and conquer strategy. You know, then you can manufacture civil unrest when you need to. Um, and when you manufacture civil unrest, you've already got the legal documents. Just like before 9/11, they already had the Patriot Act written, which is why they needed 9/11. Um, and just like COVID, they already had, you know, the Fouchy operations in order to fund these biolabs in Wuhan, um, that are now releasing the documents with Tulsi Gabbard right now. Um, and, uh, you know, they already had the vaccine, and who did we have in our leadership? We had Boris Johnson that administered the shutdown. You had Rishi Sunak, who was the largest shareholder via his Indian investments in the ones that were profiting from the vaccines. Um, and so you can see how the politicians match the policy. But there are certain policies which are written by think tanks and non-government organizations. One of those in 1968 was the Club of Rome. It was a particular think tank, and one of their agendas was a belief that you need depopulation. Um, there's also a coincidence of ones. Right now today, we have demographic issues. There's not a large enough taxpayer base to pay the boomers that are now retiring, and we have a pension crisis. And so, there's only a couple of ways of solving that. You either, you know, you either make a way of increasing birth rates, which we're going in the opposite direction.

>> We're going extinct with the exception of Africans, Middle Easterns, and Southeast Asians.

>> Everyone else, their birth rates are decreasing to the point of, um, extinction, no replacement rate. So, they're supplementing it through the manufacturing of wars, rebuild contracts, and immigration crisis. So, you can increase the tax base through immigrants. You can then use that to build a police and surveillance state by creating radical versions, racial tensions, religious tensions, all the things where you're saying, "Why is my life so much worse? It must be because they took my job." So, you can, you can point to the other. Um, but what you really want is what we're getting here. What Trump gave us, the Genius Act, uh, the Big Beautiful Bill, um, the Clarity Act, the programmable police and surveillance state, um, which was already beta-tested through the Palestinian laboratory, the integration of drones into Ukraine, um, with artificial intelligence and Palantir, uh, the pre-crime arrest technology that was implemented throughout the UK. Um, the border, open border, closed border that went ran across Palantir with the Biden administration and Trump administration, um, the crowd control that was used in Hajin, Saudi Arabia, um, and all these different things that you can see. So, the Club of Rome was a particular think tank. It doesn't mean that they ultimately rule. It means there is policy that is written that involves, um, believing a belief, an economic theory that you depopulate. And so, I would argue that COVID, whether coordinated, manufactured, or real and weaponized, whatever you want to believe, uh, fulfilled a depopulation agenda, as well as profiting from the solution, as well as manufacturing the problem, which we know was a bioweapon via Ukraine into the Wuhan lab, funded by Fouchy and the intelligence apparatus.

>> Yeah, but the, the, the whole Fouchy biolabs thing and, and the biolabs that are all in Ukraine, etc., etc., this is just another, it's, it's designed to kind of fool a certain section of the populace into thinking there really was a virus and that there wasn't a lab leak, was there? That's just another bollocks, bollocks theory they put out to try and sell their the narrative.

>> Well, I mean, I don't like to get too deep into subjects I'm not an expert in. What I do is I follow incentives and leave the experts to determine was it a thing, was it not a thing? Because there's different beliefs. You could manufacture the thing,

>> or you could make up a BS narrative that the thing was and put a death counter on the media and scare the hell out of people into thinking if you leave your house, you're killing, you're going to kill your grandma. And then you radicalize people into, you know, staring at the TV every day watching the death counter. And, and, and, you know, think back to your time, right? There was a day when you were told you must social distance, you must get a jab, you must not leave your house, and you were watching, uh, the number of deaths go up every day. That was a very traumatizing experience for many,

>> particularly people that believe that the media is the truth, not just an agenda that's funded by policy.

>> Um, and so, just, but remember, we all remember, I remember that day. Do you remember that day when one day we were told that, um, if we don't get the fifth booster, like we're going to kill our grandma? Um, and then one day, um, Putin invaded Ukraine, and suddenly we were able to go out and protest and do whatever we want to defend democracy, and COVID was no longer an issue, and, uh, no longer, there was no death counter, and all we were fed is Putin is Hitler, and that we're, we're defending democracy. So, the media in one day went from, if you don't get this jab, you're going to kill your grandma, to go out and protest and defend democracy because we, because Putin is a great. And guess what? You need to print billions of dollars while there's homeless, drug addiction, wealth inequality, problems at home, but you need to give it to Ukraine, and you need to put a flag in your bio.

>> Um, and you need to, and if you're not, then you're an evil killer that supports communism. Um, and, uh, you're a, you're a radical lefty, um, that believes, you know, and you can see that throughout our life. 9/11, the manufacturing of terrorism. So, you can see these false flags throughout your whole life. Um, and now, what I don't try and do is say, this is definitely how it was. Um, because these are pretty complicated things, and if you go deep into any of them, you can either weaponize, uh, something that happens because you radicalize people so much, or you can do a covert or overt operation.

>> Or you can just manufacture a media narrative that makes people believe it. And all of those have been used. And it's, you won't, you won't know this. Like, right now, we get all the declassified CIA documents from Operation Ajax, you know, Operation Gladio, where they manufactured terrorists. Um, Operation Ajax, where they do regime change in Iran. Um, you get all these when it's too late, when it doesn't really matter. And so, we'll get these declassified documents, and then they'll also be declassified where you black out the bits that hide the power structure, just like we had with the Epstein files. You know, you don't get the actual people, the JP Morgans that settled with the with the victims. You get the version of the assets that are being taken out, um,

>> rather than, and the power structure still prevails. Um, and then everyone just focuses on that when it's too late to matter. And then you build your social credit score by talking about it. Uh, and then they weaponize that against you in order to, uh, usher in this police and surveillance state and put you in the blocks and make you more radical.

>> You, you gave a good example there of of this a thing that would makes absolutely no sense where, as you say, one day it was wear a mask, uh, take, take the vaccine to save granny. The next, it was we must, we must join plucky Ukraine's fight against evil Putler. Um, and I remember, I don't, I don't read the newspapers anymore because I, too, had an epiphany. Um, and I realized that the whole system was corrupt. And I was looking at the front page of my wife's newspaper, and it was boasting about the fact that British-made Storm Shadow missiles had been used to attack some Russian targets. And the, the thrust of this piece was it was clear that it was expecting of the reader that the reader should be excited by this, this blow that that Britain was striking. And I was thinking, hang on a second, when did we declare war on on Russia? Where is this money coming from? Um, I, I never recall being asked whether I wanted my money spunked on a Storm Shadow missile. Um, now, that's my reaction, and presumably that's your reaction as well. How is it, given that it is so obvious when you look at it, why do people not see it?

>> Um, well, there was another operation, um, called Operation Mockingbird. Um, and Operation Mockingbird is when the CIA took over the media, um, in the case of the US, and, um, they created these different media outlets that would cater for your, your people. And so, whether it be CNN on the left or Fox News on the right, um, they would make, they would distract you with believing that your side is right and everyone else is crazy. And they would distract you with politics so you look left and right, um, at all times. Labour, Conservative, Democrat, Republican, Communist, Capitalist, um, you know, at racial tensions, uh, religious tensions, and they, it, it was to distract you with everything but what was real, what would actually matter. Um, and the other thing it did is it created deliberate operations to mock people that would ever expose this. This is where the term conspiracy theory came from. Uh, the term conspiracy theory came from the CIA in Operation Mockingbird to call anyone that exposed the system a conspiracy theorist. So, then it would make you into a category that was very unsociable and and undesirable for you to be ostracized and compartmentalized. And then they did other things. They would take the reveal of the conspiracy theory and make it deliberately crazy and kooky so that you sounded like, you know, a 9/11 truther, where there would be, you would, you know, there would be theories out there where there's a fake plane and someone was driving it on a remote control, or they would, they would make the conspiracy theories more and more radicalized.

>> And they'd use people like, you know, whether it be Tucker Carlson or something, whether people know who they're working for, or Alex Jones. Half the time people don't know who they're working for because it's an incentive mechanism with sponsorships and various other operations. We saw Alex Jones, you know, $47 billion dollar settlement case. Then he comes back as a new person.

>> The truth.

>> Um, you know, you know what I mean? These, so.

>> Well, that was the moment I knew.

>> This is psychological operations at the highest level. Um, and so it is all based upon your desire to fit in, to not be ridiculed, to not be cancelled. Um, and you are, when, as soon as you're born, right, it happens at the education system.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, you are downloaded a set of history that was written from the winners of the history. You then go through a university system that downloads into you a set of beliefs that you start to think are your own.

>> And then it happens with politics. Your, the media downloads into you a set of beliefs, and you start to find your side. Maybe it was allegiance with your father. Maybe it was allegiance with someone influential. And so you think that you came up with your beliefs.

>> Yeah.

>> But they were downloaded into these different. Hates Islam, and I could tell you who he supports, what party he's on, all the other beliefs, whether he supports Israel, whether he believes resists. You can, you can have a menu of what they believe in based upon them telling me one thing, because I knew that that belief system was manufactured and operated, and that person will defend it till the end. They believe it's their belief. But no, you, you predictably believe a set of things that when you understand these patterns, I can tell you all the other things you believe in, because it was an operating system that was installed into you through psychological operations. And you never decided, am I that religion? Do I believe that? Uh, how did I become that? Where did I learn that stuff? And so the process of becoming your own person is actually a multi-decade unwinding process of relearning all history, um, and, and, and, and touching upon the hardest of questions. So, it's very difficult. Like, the vast majority of people, they're too broke figuring out how to pay their credit card debt, and why their family now needs three people to work. And why they're feeling like a de-masculated man that can't look after their family, that's deep in debt, feeling, you know, um, just feeling a bad version of themselves that distracts them. Um, and that's what I'm saying. They want these people. They want a people captured. People that have no power that can say what they want. But there's very few people outside the system and have the time and financial capacity to recognize why are we where we are? Why, why is this happening? Um, and then you get ridiculed as a conspiracy theorist and compartmentalized. So, it's a very sophisticated system. It's quite remarkable when you think about it.

>> It is very sophisticated. I was going to ask you something because something you mentioned earlier, sort of a light bulb went off in my head. You, you probably don't know much about my my history, but I used to be quite a successful mainstream media journalist. I mean, you know, people, people knew who I was. I used to write sort of comments, comment pieces in the, in the Mail on Sunday, Telegraph. I, I had a, a column in the Spectator. Um, and, you know, when I, when I met people at parties, they'd, they'd kind of be impressed because they, they'd met somebody who was, you know, whatever. And then I, I had my, my epiphany, and I went, I, I became a, a podcaster and I started talking about crazy subjects like 9/11, moon landings, all, all the things I was discovering on, on the way. And I built up a, a reasonable following based partly on the people who'd followed me from, who liked my journalism because I was very, I was very good. I mean, I was, I was a very good writer, um, very compelling, um, entertaining. So, people sort of followed me and often came with me down the rabbit hole. So, so my journey was their journey. And I, it was great in the early days where during, during COVID, where we, we all felt like we were resisting this, this tyranny that many of us had, had been unaware of before. We, we trusted the system, and now suddenly we realized that we were being sold a lie about COVID, and maybe about everything else too. Um, so I built up this, this, um, this audience, and I thought, well, this is great. Um, I'm, I, I'm part of this resistance movement, and I'm able to just about make a living monetizing my content. Not quite as much as I made as journalism, but it's, but it's all going fine. And this happened for two or three years, and it was great, and I felt, I felt loved and wanted. And then in the last year or so, I suddenly started discovering that we weren't all on the same page. We weren't, we weren't all one sort of coherent resistance movement where, where, okay, we accept, we accepted that we weren't in agreement on everything, but we, but, but we were all heading the same direction. I found myself being sniped at by fellow podcasters whom hither two I, I thought about very little. I, I certainly didn't see them, think of them as a threat or as as rivals. I just thought like they were nothing, you know, just they didn't mean it because we're all doing our own thing. I was doing my stick, they were doing their stick. And I was wondering whether this, this process is a function of, of, of, of what you described, whereby they, whoever they are, are so good at manipulating algorithms and, and, and access to data and, and reach and so on, that they are able to engineer these. I mean, it, it saves them the trouble of, I thought at the beginning I was going to get taken out. I thought I, I thought I, I was going to get, you know, well, I mean, I still, it may still happen. Must have happened to you, I suppose. I thought I was going to get bumped off because I was, I was an ex-establishment journalist who had suddenly discovered too much and was saying it to everyone who'd listened. And now I think, no, that's not how they do it. They just kind of marginalize you. They get random people to kind of have a go at you, try and try and reduce your. Is, is that, does that make sense to you?

>> Yeah, it, it does make sense, and I think it's a very interesting conversation, and, um, I really appreciate you sharing like how it was in your area because once you see these things, right, you look back at your life and you think, yeah, like where do these things come in, like it's very subtle.

>> Um, and it, it is like a social proofing concept, a desire to fit in, and then you realize that there are these, if, if you look back at, like, the whole root of the war economy, it was based upon marginalization, divide and conquer, and making, um, everyone so, um, divided that they're easy to conquer.

>> Um, and I, and I think that's never stopped, but the technology has changed. And so, there was one time when nobody knew the game. Like, imagine if we were alive during, uh, my dad was alive for World War II. Um, and, you know, in order to get the news, you went to the cinema once a week, and whatever they told you in that 20 minutes was the truth. That's all you knew, right? Then there was newspapers or whatever it may be, but many people couldn't afford it or whatever. So, we were in a world where the defense of the never letting the truth come out was the most important thing for preservation.

>> Um, then we kind of like transitioned into, uh, the internet, the resistance against the internet, all the different mediums. And if you think at each one, we had more and more and more and more information until we're at the point today where it's like an unbelievable amount of information that we're able to to access. And so, we went through a phase where I think it was cancellation. I'll take you off Facebook. I'll take you off Twitter. I'll, uh, you, there's gatekeepers in the traditional media. Um, you try and write an article, and there's a higher infrastructure that says we can't publish that, and whatever the mechanism may be.

>> Um, so there was a cancellation phase. Um, but I do believe now we've entered into a phase where say whatever you want, and we know how to weaponize it, and that's the divide and conquer phase. And so maybe ignorantly, I, I don't fear too much being taken out. There was a time when I think I would have, um, famous last words.

>> Um, but, uh, now I don't think they care because we built the technology with AI where we've hit this extreme level of, there are people that are going to own the infrastructure, and as everyone else. And now we've built a business plan that needs civil unrest, that needs a lack of faith in the system, because the technocratic and the private corporate interests and the Fick, Mick, and Tick, you know, the Mick is now cybersecurity and, uh, artificial intelligence and robotic-based military weapons that don't require humans.

>> Um, we're entering into that phase where warfare is different. And the more speech, the more they know about you, the more you can be weaponized when they're ready to release that weapon. And they need civil unrest in order to get there. So, that's why everything's about the police and surveillance state right now rather than censorship.

>> Um, and I've, I've, I've definitely noticed that. But yeah, divide and conquer has always been the way. Every movement I've ever joined,

>> starts with a group of people that unify. They drop their differences and they unify around a common cause.

>> Yeah.

>> And then slowly, there's a psychological thing that kicks in where the more time you spend with each other, you find your differences. And then those differences suddenly become drama. And then that drama becomes the source of the media where everyone talks about, oh, did you know that these two people fell out over this? And then suddenly that becomes the media. And so the media always knew that negativity and degeneracy and drama and gossip, uh, was, was the way of distracting, right? It's the old Coliseum. Uh, get them fighting each other and killing each other, and then they don't, they can release their, um, they can release their testosterone over there, uh, while slowly we're building this empire, you know.

>> Um, and that's always been, that's always been the game. I think what, what I've noticed is that the, the more I look at it, the game and the psychological triggers have never changed. Weaponize religion, weaponize tensions, you know, uh, divide and conquer, uh, point, manufacture and other, um, get people to believe in nationalism, a political system, change the leader and everything will change. You have to just keep, you have to just keep people distracted with believing that the things they're focusing on are ultimately the things that matter.

>> Um, and, yeah, uh, you know, the war strategy of Balkanize and just, um, make people believe that, okay, if I just, if we just turn Somaliland rather than Somalia, then we can have our own very unpowerful Balkanized controlled, um, little jurisdiction that's ours, and then we're working for the power structure that's way more powerful than us anyway. So, just break it up. I mean, and that's the history of the Middle East, right? Sykes-Picot was to draw a bunch of lines with a bunch of racial tensions and religious tensions that guarantee that the region will be in war forever for as long as we can monetize it.

>> And the moment any one of these Arab leagues or a nationalist movement would unify around their energy, you eliminate it at all cost and you create strategic tension. And the best book on this was a book called Operation Gladio that I read by Paul Williams, and it describes the manufacturing of strategic tension.

>> Um, and it's strategically manufacturing tension so that you can fund both sides of any type of war. Um, and you manufacture terrorists, communists, radical lefts, far rights. Um, and you pay people like Tommy Robinson in order to make those happen, sponsored by Elon Musk, who's got the technical solution for what comes for the ple, the pre-crime police agenda.

>> Um, and so, you know, these, you, you can just look at the, the, you can look at them, the incentives and the model, and bet that there is a part of the power structure that's trying to make that happen, and there's another part of the power structure that's trying to go on another path, and that's, that's the friction, the strategic tension.

>> Um, so war is, is it their primary business model?

>> Um, well, war is integrated into, it's, it's not primary. It's a, it's a mechanism for getting the resources that you need, making the profits from the war. The forever war is very profitable. For anyone that thinks that Afghanistan was about winning, they don't understand the business model. Uh, a 20-year war that justifies $2 trillion of debt issuance that was then spent back into the stock market and the defense contractors is incredibly successful. And then to take a version of the Taliban that was resisting against the drug opium trade and replace it with a version of the Taliban that is allowing the drug opium trade to flow is an incredibly successful operation. That's $2 trillion of profits. A regime change that allows the CIA, MI6, and Mossad to continue their drug trafficking cartels.

>> Um, and, um, you know, an obfuscation that it looks like when you need to dump the US empire, you've got a series of forever wars, and then eventually you can create something like the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, where America couldn't exert its force, just like the Suez Canal with the British Empire, um, in Egypt.

>> And then you can change the empire. And, and so, what's the profit? The profit is, uh, the destruction, the continuation of the forever war, and then you profit from the rebuild when it's 10 times more profitable than continuing the forever war. So, when I was an investment banker, uh, we used to work with the big consulting firms, and I remember like seeing things like even John Perkins in Confessions of an Economic Hitman. Um, the consulting firms would would put together a model of when peace was 10 times more profitable than the forever war versus the starting of the war. And so, if you want peace, you have to come up with a business model where there's 10 times more profit than continuing the forever war. And so, war is a racket, as John John Smedley, I think, what was it? Sorry, uh, I'm butchering the name.

>> Was it Smedley Butler?

>> Smedley Butler. Thank you very much. John Smedley was a clothes brand.

>> Bottom, very nice.

>> Absolutely. See the things that are in our mind, these advertising, like where you, you pull into this. I was like, John Smedley, where have I?

>> Top could actually be John Smedley has.

>> It looks like one, isn't it? It's one of those cotton ones. Yeah.

>> Um, yeah, you know, we are manufactured. The clothes we wear, the, the brands, the, you know, Beans Means Heinz, like all these things, you, you see these psychological operations, and, and you have to continually catch yourself. Is this my thought, or was it downloaded into me?

>> Where did I go? Yes, it, it is a racket. It's a well-defined business model.

>> Um, and it feeds into the, the, the technical police and surveillance grids as well that are being built right now. Um, beta-tested in Gaza, and what they want to build in Gaza is what they want to build in Britain and across the world. In America, they call them freedom cities. In Europe, we call them smart cities. In Gaza, we call it a concentration camp. Um, and, uh, and, uh, it's the same people involved. Um, you, you, you use Israel to test the technology. You test it in Gaza with an open, open-air prison, and then Palantir, the same one that did genocide as a service and occupation as a service, is the same technology that the NHS, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice, the front, the Trump border control, even in America, you have to privatize prison sector, like that's one massive racket.

>> Um, you know, the more you, I, I knew somebody that got arrested by ICE, a British person, um, that was arrested by ICE on the border, and he was just literally driven from prison to prison. Every time he was about to see a judge, because he knew there was no case. But every time you get driven into a new prison, um, there's a new check that's written. And even the privatization of the deportation industry. You get paid a dividend per deportation, as well as a dividend per arrest, and you just create privatized incentive structures. ICE is owned by Geo Group, um, and funded by Core Civic, which are the two companies, um, that profit from the privatized prison sector. And you have 2 million Americans that are deported in America, the highest population to incarceration rate in the world. And you can see the stock price of the companies that benefit from it. And so, war is a racket.

>> Um, and this is the next, you know, if you eventually can't exert influence in a, a US-dominated world, um, then what do you do? You bring it home. And so, they're creating the domestic terrorist. You create protests, and those protests are infiltrated by intelligence.

>> Um, and then you say, "Hey, if you support Palestine, you're now a, a domestic terrorist."

>> Uh, and, and you create the environment that justifies the technology that builds what the legislation needed to change. You see it across the UK everywhere right now. It's why it's why they invented gangster rap as well, to to put more black people in prison. That was the purpose.

>> I completely agree. And so, if you look at the history of the transatlantic slave trade, the compartmentalization of the ghettos, um, the drug trades that the CIA deliberately injected, you had the wars where you eliminated any uprising, um, and you had, you know, MOVE, for example, where literally they bombed like the ghettos because they were, they were organizing and doing well and building their own universities.

>> Where was this? Sorry. Uh, the MOVE OV, it was like, um, um, where, like the military was put on top of like some of the ghettos that were building their own parallel systems, um, within the black communities, um, and they literally just bombed them and killed them, because just like they did in Gaza.

>> Um, and if you share any of these things, what happens immediately? Everyone watching this will say, "Hey, is Simon a far-right radical left,

>> socialist?"

>> Um, that believes, you know, and like someone else will listen and say, "Hey, I'm a white nationalist." And, and everyone has their own, their own installed view that tries to put me in a box based upon me just sharing objective documented history and incentives that lead to it. So, the very difficult part of this is that I could describe that, and you've already made assumptions around who I am based upon sharing that story.

>> Um, and so, there's no doubt that hip-hop music and the music industry and the result that, you know, that, uh, this whole how to weaponize racial tensions and manufacture the result that you want.

>> Um, and then they pull out all the data, and you'll just say, "Well, white people do less crime than black people." And then if you have an opinion on that, they compartmentalize you into a box that leads you to wanting to be defensive against that because you've subscribed to some ideology,

>> that you probably never consciously decided.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

>> I got distracted from something. I was going to ask you about, uh, what were we talking about before we got onto the gangster rap?

>> Um, I think we were talking about like Operation Gladio and stay-at-home armies and manufacturing terrorism and domestic terrorism and in order to get civil unrest and infiltration.

>> Yeah. I, I was, I'm curious as to, so, you've got these sort of competing, um, mafia families, if you like. So, you've got the Fick and the Mick and the, and the, and the Tick. You, you mentioned earlier that that that the Fick wins because ultimately that's got access to the money, but you, you're suggesting that that the, the T, the Tick could be overtaking it.

>> Yeah. So, at the moment, all of these technology companies, we just had the SpaceX IPO. Uh, the SpaceX IPO happened at a $1.75 trillion valuation. Now, what is it doing? It essentially, when you go public at that valuation, you create what's called an ATM, and an ATM is where you use your own stock as your currency. And so, immediately, they acquired Cursor, which is an AI company that helps you, um, code and, and instead of having developers. Um, and so, by having this valuation, you're able to concentrate more and more of the smaller companies into an ever larger and growing monopoly. And so, if you look at the, the S&P 500 today, 40 to 50% of it is the Magnificent Seven, that's now becoming the Magnificent Ten when you IPO Anthropic and OpenAI and these other things.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, and so, the technical industrial complex is now 50% of the S&P. But what's really interesting is we've got this strategic tension with China, where China genuinely is using AI in order to improve their manufacturing processes, whereas America is trying to monetize it and put everyone into a subscription model, um, where you can't function without paying, buying the tokens. China can now do it 10 times cheaper than the American models, um, at 90% the efficiency. And, um, we've, and also they've got, you know, the, the access to the alternative energy sources. Um, and we've got, you know, these, these different things. Um, where was I going? Okay, yes. So, um, the valuation of these companies can be rug-pulled at a second if China reveals what is built.

>> Um, and so, you, you use these stock valuation models in order to concentrate wealth, and then you use the crisis.

To concentrate wealth. So the global financial crisis benefited the fick more than anyone else because you can socialize the losses and privatize the gains. You can take out all of the smaller institutions and bail them out with the larger institutions. So each crisis concentrates more power into a fewer and fewer hands.

Now at the moment the FIC is able to play the game because they can launch currency wars. They can use the derivatives markets in order to destroy share prices. Uh they can portfolio manage through the control of capital. Um and so they can make everyone subordinate to capital. Um, but there is an interesting dynamic that's coming right now, which is what if the blackmail operation became everyone talking to their therapist in chat GBT? What if the data actually became the currency, which I think it is moving more and more towards.

So, what if you could rugpool all of the markets simultaneously? You could rugpool the stock market by revealing the overvaluation as a result of China's AI. You could rugpool the commodity market by revealing that the West has many times more derivative contracts and Shanghai has all back gold in China. You could rugpool the bond market by China and Japan selling all of their treasuries um and manufacturing a bailout where the Fed is the one that can purchase all those bonds. So, China could rugpool the whole market if they wanted.

But what are they doing instead? Well, the Beijing meeting with Trump had all the executives of the Mickfick and Tick in one place meeting with Xi Jinping. And they were all saying, you know, in in my this is, take this as my interpretive. Um, I couldn't prove any of this. >> Yeah. But I imagine that Elon Musk was sat down with Xi Jinping saying, "Please, please, please, I need these rare earth minerals for my EV batteries, and I still need," and Tim Cook from Apple was saying, "Please, please, please, while we're pretending we're rebuilding our manufacturing base in America, there's no way I can sell an iPhone for $10,000. And please make sure our warehouses and our manufacturing factories in Apple are still allowed to function in China under cheap labor. And don't worry, Huawei can go and do and copy it and you can create your phones and the same people that work for Apple can go and then work for Huawei. But just don't make me build my manufacturing base in America because then that breaks my whole business model.

Um and uh I I imagine that uh Visa and Mastercard were saying I know you've built guard rails around your SIP system and I know that we cannot you know you've built a network of central bank digital currencies through Mbridge that circumvents Swift but how can we integrate into your system so at least when we can charge fees going into the SIPs network and I know you want to you understand the game you built guards around your financial system. We can't penetrate it. But how can we do that? And also, how can we win the AI game together? We know that we can pretend we're going to go to World War II. And we all know that we can't manufacture a weapon in America without China's commodities, rare earth, minerals, refinements, and everything that our military companies need in order to be able to exert military force. We need you for that. But don't worry, we won't touch Thailand. But sorry, Taiwan. But maybe we can figure out what we're going to do with our chips. You become chip independent. We become chip independent. And we carry on the narrative of that we're actually in an AI arms race because that allows you to manufacture more while we make more profit in the stock market. And the more that you can sell to us, the more we can keep the jig up. are pretending we're going to go to World War II and that that's actually possible because that props up our stock market which then means that we buy more goods from you and so there's a codependency between China and the FIC and the Mick and the Tick but China could take this whole thing open source and that could break everything and the FIC can't penetrate PBOC because that's a n that's a genuinely nationalized central bank with a network of nationalized banks and they nationalized those when they tried to penetrate the Chinese banking system, you know, through Hong Kong in Shanghai. They did what Putin did. They expelled the banksters, you know, Putin expelled the oligarchs and and nationalized the oil. So, they got a genuine god there. Um, but could we just work together to build a global AI technocratic grid? And maybe it doesn't need to be a conspiracy. Maybe it's just the obvious way this goes. Maybe money becomes less important in the future. Maybe we enter into a moneyless world under this grid that we're moving to at a point of singularity. I don't know. But let's hedge it. Let's move to multipolarity. Let's asset strip the west um as the financial fix system. And then let's see if we build this global technocratic tick grid. Maybe we displace the thick. Maybe the tick becomes the ruler and maybe data becomes the resource and maybe we put the whole world onto a universal basic income and the ones that control the the data and the data centers which we're concentrating into fewer and fewer hands. Maybe they become the fick of the future. Who knows? Let's play both games and hedge.

>> Well, you said there were some fick representatives and some Mick representatives at the same conference. Wouldn't they have resisted or wouldn't they have seen this particular thing going on.

>> Yeah, but who owns America? America is a privatized corporation owned by transnational capital governed by the fick. America is not a nationalistic. If you if you think UK, Australia, Canada, Europe, and America are countries, then you've bought into that the governments are in charge and politicians run the game. No, they work for fick and they are just asset stripping the west and managing a portfolio so that they end up with as much assets under management as possible and politicians that are subordinate to their lobby financing. There is no sovereign countries left other than China and we don't want to be China because we call that communism and an authoritarian which it is. It's not communist. It's got capitalism under state authoritarianism. Um, and that means that no company can big be bigger than the Chinese Communist Party and the government, which means that authoritarianism reigns. But we've got the opposite. We're we're run by the Bank for International Settlements, the Federal Reserve, and the Financial Industrial Complex. We just don't know it. We think we got democracies. Like we as long as we buy into that belief that changing the voter and changing the party is what will change the system, then we will never know who we're governed by because we vote with our money. It's our money that actually makes the difference. And Fick knows that and they got the most money. And so if we've actually all started voting with our money, then we could break the Fick if we wanted. all all we need to do to break the fick is stop paying our mortgages and stop paying our rent and the whole system crumbles. But they want you to believe that it's actually some kind of uprising. And so what are they doing? They're basically making uh you know you know that the next movements are going more left, more social, more but it's not communism. It's fake. The whole thing is a monetary system that funds both sides. and you're just a useful idiot for power by believing that what you're doing is going to change the system.

>> And once you get there,

>> you realize that there's money that rules the game.

>> But wouldn't it be rather difficult for us all to stop paying our mortgages? And uh I mean, wouldn't the be wouldn't our assets be seized and and wouldn't we be ending up in prison or having our Yeah. having our houses taken off us or whatever?

Hence the strategic tension. So the people that would hate that are who the boomers where their retirement is based upon their stock value that they built over their whole life and the ones that have built significant wealth in the property that they own

>> because they were on the right side of the K-shaped economy when they came out of World War II

>> um and beyond.

>> You speak to the youth today, they're like, "Hell yeah." Look at China. They just crashed their property market. That makes it more affordable.

>> Yeah.

>> They're like, "Crash this I don't own any of the assets. I don't own any of the real estate." And so you create the strategic tension. And the strategic tension right now is between men and women that hate each other and are not having families. The wealthy and the the people that have the assets and the people that don't. They're on the extreme other sides. uh a a generational gap, a wealth gap, a ratio, all of these different things. And that's they they've built your algorithm to put you in the box that you need to be in that feeds you all the data that makes you believe it's them. It's the boomers. They got all the wealth. They've got all the assets. So, what do we need to do? Let's go burn down a data center. Maybe that will make a difference. And then what happens? that data center is insured and the insurance company makes a ton of money out of it. Um, and the the the national debt increases because you end up bailing out the AI companies because the whole stock market is dependent upon it. So, you pay the bill and you pay the inflation. So, you know, you you think you're rising up to power, but yeah, to answer your question, yeah, it would require coordination. uh and it looks like no one's capable of coordinating something like that. Um and so we continue to comply which is why I believe that the actual solution is in the exit. It's in the boycott and the exit. Um I don't think I can change the system but I think I can take my energy out of the system and my money can contribute to things that aren't in that system to the extent that I can. You can't get it fully. And maybe if enough people do that, then we could have enough leverage and negotiation power the same way that the Fick has. The Fick had to negotiate with China because they couldn't penetrate China. If they can't penetrate you, you get leverage. You can say you vote with your money. You want your share price to perform, we'll end the boycott, you know, but then you'll be called a radical left communist, pink hair, LGBTQ rainbow fairy if you talk like that. And that's how they get you.

>> Um, I don't think the audience of this particular podcast will be thinking that. They'll be saying, "Yeah, go Simon. Tell us what we need to do." I mean, how do you um give yourself this sort of financial china proofing as it were?

>> Well, it's fick and China. They rule the game. Um, so where do we have influence? We have no influence over China, but we do have influence over Fick. M that's manifested in their share price. So don't buy their shares. That's manifested in the bond market. So don't buy their bonds. Um that's manifested in ETF. So manage your own money rather than have them manage it for you. That's how they control the capital. Uh choose your currency. Don't use their currency so that they have power for their currency wars. Now most people this is a journey that people have to go through. And most people realize that they are fully subordinate to the fick. their mortgage, their credit cards, um their everything. And so what do you do? You slowly each and every month do the opposite of what they want you to do. They want you deeper in debt. They want you managing any wealth with them. They want you giving your voting rights to them so that they can vote it for you through ETFs and index funds. And you do the opposite. So I work through, well, what do you have to do to boycott the Fed? Well, there's the Fed, there's gold, and there's Bitcoin. Pick your poison. Manage it as a portfolio, whatever you want to do. What do you do to have to boycott Black Rockck, who's managing all the fun? Well, you either buy an ETF or you buy your own shares or you don't invest in the system. You invest in private equity in your local community businesses that actually will make your life better. Because when they want to sell you poison food, you probably want to have investments in your local farmer that can help you at the community level. Um, what if you want to boycott the bank? Well, maybe you can get in a position where you don't need a mortgage. I know that that's very difficult for many people. Uh, but maybe you build assets before you build a mortgage because the mortgage is a backbone of the banking system. Maybe you don't borrow against your assets where you mine some you know some uh which is what they want where you give them your asset as collateral and they give you a loan.

>> Uh maybe you take that energy out of the system to the extent you can

>> uh so don't leverage your assets. Um maybe you make investments that are more conscious. um am I purchasing through Amazon or am I going to my local farmer to the degree that I can and supporting supply chains of local community networks um that uh rather than me just taking the easy option all the time it's it's a spectrum of subordination to sovereign and your job is to slowly each month say am I I got paid this month what am I doing with that money am I spending less than I own and investing the difference. Where am I investing it and how am I spending it? And each month, does it make me more subordinate or more sovereign? And you do that each month and you do that for 10 years. They won't tell you that.

>> They won't tell you that because they want you gambling. They want you focusing on how to get rich quick. They want you unhealthy. They want you using their system. They want you um doing everything the opposite. They want you eating their food that makes you less healthy. Uh they they want you just do the opposite of everything that the media machine is trying to get you to do and you're probably closer to being on the right track. And be conscious of your algorithms. Understand that they are trying to feed you the information that reinforces your beliefs that you probably never installed and were installed into you and and and build your own operating system. And so we need decentralized AI. We need self-custody money, Bitcoin. You know, these are all tools for sovereignity where you own the terms and you own the environment. Lots you can do. It's overwhelming. is completely overwhelming. But what you can do each and every month is change your habits um and have a long-term plan and change your time preference. Can you just briefly um you mentioned earlier the Straits of Homers? Is it is it your theory that this is all part of a planned handover, the sort of the end of the American Empire? It's it's all because I I'm looking at this this this war alleged war in Iran. It does it doesn't feel real at all. It just feels like we don't know what's going on. It just feels completely made up.

>> It's real. It's real.

>> People are dying. Um but the Mick doesn't care. They they they monetize death. Um the fick monetizes destruction. So if you can have different factors of incentives within Iran, Israel, and America that represent the military-industrial complex. So think about Operation Gladadio, strategic tension. For 40 years since the 1979 Iranian revolution, we were told that there is a group that says death to America, death to Israel. And there was another group that believed that they were protecting the Jewish people and um and uh it's anti-semitic if you talk against any of the things that that they do. Strategic tension. Israel is meant to be in a defense weaponizing what happened in World War II and Iran is meant to represent the group that we're told represents the people that did 9/11.

>> Yeah.

>> Even though Iran was the biggest enemy of ISIS and I alqaeda which are westernfunded um groups and militias. Okay. But you confuse people into that. Now what have you done? You create a strategic tension between Iran and Israel. Two narratives. You use the media to perpetuate that. And you radicalize people into those ideologies. The more radical the militia groups become through war by killing their children and killing their grandmas, the more you have an army that doesn't know who they work for that serve a different agenda. The more you radicalize the Jews, then they go over to Israel. They join the IDF and they engage in the ethnic cleansing and the Palestinian laboratory. Who profits? Well, American debt markets pay the bill and the contractors are going to rebuild and pay all the weapons, funneling money through Israel and then is spent back into the American stock market. And you created through this strategic tension $10 trillion of profits that went directly into thick bottom line. And the longer you can keep the strategic tension going for the more you can profit. And so we end up in a scenario where suspiciously Iran and Israel are meant to be enemies that are meant to be the most radicalized versions and yet they never bomb each other until 2024. And we're told that Iran is 2 weeks away from a nuke

>> for 20 to 30 years. And yet that strategic tension is never fully resolved because it made a lot of money for Mick. And then you have different incentives. The Israeli stock market is 40% MC. Iran has a faction of power within the IRGC that also has their own businesses and their own military-industrial complex that also if you are a sanctioned country the more you fund resistance the more leverage you have in order to try and get those sanctions removed. So no conspiracy needs to be built just a set of incentives that drives the behavior that creates the strategic tension. That also means and so that was one faction. What happened with another faction? You had 19 think about it 1971 America goes off the gold standard. 1973 um you have Israel created the Junaper war that then creates the energy crisis and the embargo that drove the price of oil up like crazy. 1974 you get the the creation of the pro dollar and then you get OPEC as a resistance against the western oil companies. Safari Club is created as an intelligence covert network funded by George Bush to protect his oil interests and suddenly what does Safari Club do? grooms Osama bin Laden that leads to the creation of alqaeda that later creates ISIS that were then connected to um 911 in 1975. The one that did the oil embargo, King Fisizel was assassinated. Then you get the petro dollar. The petro dollar was an agreement between Saudi Arabia that said price your oil in dollars and then reinvest it into US debt, US treasuries. And when the money is in the Federal Reserve system, the yield on the debt purchases equipment from the Mick and rebuild contracts into Saudi Arabia that allows for a military base to be installed in Saudi that we say is protecting the pro dollar, but in fact is used to create strategic tension between Israel, Saudi, and Iran. And we do the same in Turkey. I could tell you a similar story. We do the same in Egypt. I could tell you a similar story. But for the purpose of time, you've manufactured strategic tension. Now, what changed? What changed is that the financial industrial complex created a global structure that landed up in globalization that ended up with the entire manufacturing base in China. energy. America became energy independent, started fracking under Trump. Didn't need to import energy. We moved to an AI world. We need more LG. This is a new commodity. Semiconductor chips for the robotics and all of the computer chips. We need to reset the world order. Right now, on whose terms? So, what did Fick do? Vic went and said, "I tell you what, Saudi, stop investing in US treasuries and invest in US equities. We'll give you access to every deal." And the Gulf built sovereign wealth funds, trillions of dollars of sovereign wealth funds. And with that money, they stopped buying treasuries and they started buying equities. Now $70 trillion of US assets is foreignowned by fick man. All the domestic is owned by Fick. Fick worked with the sovereign wealth funds, Norway, Singapore, the gold funds. Where did Saudi get all of its money? Where did Qatar get all of its money? It used to be US, but now it's China. China needed all the energy. And so, China, the largest sovereign wealth fund in the world, fueled all the other sovereign wealth funds across the Gulf. And the Gulf partnered with the Fick and stopped buying treasuries which fueled the US D which fueled Pentagon which fueled the Mick and instead partnered with the Fick and Transnational Capital now was influenced by Saudi. Saudi went to the Fick and said why don't we put Saudi Aramco on the stock market? I'll give you 1% of our energy. And the boards member then the CEO of Saudi Aramco became a board member in BlackRock. Black Rockck the Fick that manages now has to cooperate. And who owns all the AI? Who was in every seed round of X AI of SpaceX of Nvidia? It was the Gulf funds. So the Gulf money became more important. Black Rockck took over all the domestic money and China became the manufacturing base and the fuel and energy of all of the system. And so if you want to change the order, you say Israel is a node for Mick and the strategic tension with Iran is what fuels the forever war. Saudi China came along and said, "Hey, in 2023, Saudi Iran, I'm your most important partner. you guys normalize >> and guess what? We're going to regime change Israel. October the 7th happens. Um the resistance is no longer supported. We enter into a phase of war and we have a different version of Iran normalized with Saudi Arabia that now needs to get rid of America. How do you do that? Get Iran to destroy all the US bases. get Israel to take out the people that weren't involved in this that wouldn't be on board with this plan and get America to destroy all the bases that need to be rebuilt by China and the Gulf countries and then reset the world order by closing the straight of moose. How do you close the straight of moose? You do a two-way blockade that requires insurance through Lloyds of London in order to get a ship through. So now you've got Lloyds of London, America, and IRGC that determine whether you can get a ship through and only China can resist that. So China gets all its energy. And guess what China did way before this. They built the largest oil reserves in the world, 1.6 million barrels. And if you look at the history and the syntax, you had the CIA escalate the Ukraine war, which was a regime change to install Zalinski. Then you had Russia take over Ukraine and Black Rockck get the rest of the world using the IMF and the G and the British pound as the collateral. Then you did Venezuela. Then you did Syria. Now, isn't it interesting that Russia and Iran and uh China miraculously allowed regime change to happen in Syria with the Assad regime and regime change to happen in Venezuela with Maduro. It's almost as if a group said or a world leader said the Middle East is now no longer for the forever war and we're going to rebuild it with Gulf capital and Chinese capital and you need to expel America and Iran and uh and Saudi. You're going to be uh strategically we don't need the strategic tension anymore. So let's regime change Israel. Let's get the media machine through Tucker Carlson, Candace Owen, uh Nick Fuentes to reveal Israel for what it actually is so that we can dradicalize the evangelical Christians and radical Zionists in America, destroy the reputation of Israel and acquire it. And Netanyahu started privatizing many of the Israeli state assets and UAE started buying them. And what did UAE do? It got an FX swap line to take over the petro dollar and it also came out of OPEC which was the other half of the petro dollar. So the fick handed over a node of this infrastructure and what did Japan do? Japan started breaking the Japan carry trade and started increasing its interest rates. And then you had enemies between Europe and America and manufactured we're the socialist you know in Europe we're the capitalists right an energy crisis that made Europe more dependent um and the the western hemisphere became subordinate to fit through these operations. Um Russia gets Ukraine and China gets Taiwan as an alternative for World War II. So now we need a narrative. What's the narrative? Let's close the trade off for moose. Let's make it where America can't defend it. And uh Trump creates an energy repricing crisis, an inflation crisis. That means the Fick kicks ass. And the Fick did kick ass. By the way, Black Rockck's assets under administration went from 12 trillion to 14 trillion. Thank you very much. Beautiful. beautiful reset of the world order. America is being asset stripped. Europe is being vasilized into the fict. Um and the forever warmer can no longer be sustained because China has turned the Middle East back into West Asia. Um and the rebuild contracts will tell you whether that's true or not. But you're you don't position yourself to benefit. You don't make investments on on your analysis, do you?

>> Um, there's two ways that you can take this. One is you try and build as much wealth in the game knowing that you can cleanse the money into assets that sit outside the game.

>> Yeah.

>> And so I made a lot of money in the game. My game was private equity.

>> Yeah.

>> Um, and uh, once I figured out how the game was, I deinvested to the extent that I could and I took my economic and financial energy outside of the game. I recognize that that's not a viable thing for most people. Most people have to have a mortgage. They have to have someone manage their money.

>> And so there is a spectrum. As I said, I was blessed to the point where I think that money has energy. And I think energy and morality comes from intent.

>> And I think once you understand a game, you have a choice.

>> You either contribute to the game and try and take your economic energy out, which is a genuine thing. It's a it's a dilemma. There's no real answer here. M

>> or you boycott the game and recognize that you have to take significantly more risk and build all your energy, monetary energy outside of the game. And the only games that I know outside the game are cash, gold, and Bitcoin in custody.

>> That's higher risk. And practicality means that you have to do that. So in the end, what does it come down to? To me, it comes down to an intent. of how you play this game and what you do. And I just personally believe that life is a test. And if you pass that test, you get more good. If you fail that test, you get more evil. And what we've learned is that financial success can turn you into the most subordinate, degenerate, high netw worth, um, worst version of yourself. Um, or you can be someone completely broke that doesn't know the game and is the vast majority on a universal basic income. Or you can try and play the game better and end up with wealth outside the system and as many freedoms as you can possibly maintain. Uh, and I think that's your your your test. And how you decide will reward you depending on your spiritual belief around what the punishment is. And I'm not here to tell you what your belief is. I just know what mine is.

>> And the story you told at the beginning about your dad was he must be very happy with the way with the way you've gone, the way it turned out.

>> I'll close it here. Uh so my father passed away on June the 12th, 2022. I lost both of my parents um in my belief due to the conditioning that they followed in terms of what they did after co

>> I'll leave it there.

>> Um but they were elderly. You know, that's just my view. I can't prove it.

>> Um but on June the 12th, 2022, um my father passed away. Okay. And the reason I know that date beyond the death is because I invested in a company called Celsius. I was a shareholder in one in a company. And what they did is they allowed you to borrow against your Bitcoin and get a loan. And uh I decided to borrow against my Bitcoin with a small percentage of it to get a loan to experiment. Um that Bitcoin made me the seventh largest creditor of 650,000 in the bankruptcy case. and I spent 2 and 1/2 years fighting it. It turned out that there were many connections to Israel in that Celsius operation. Um, and even some of the hacks that happened happened via a company called Bank Dao whose shareholders were the niece and nephew of Benjamin Netanyahu. The co-founder um was a um has an AI startup with the prime minister's office of Israel today. his wife, the VP of loans, um works as head of social media or I call propaganda um for the IDF. I didn't know any of this stuff. Um Alex Majinski is now in prison and he was um around an IDF member during the Lebanon war where Hezbollah was formed um from the Israeli invasion of Lebanon, something we're still going through today. Um but anyway, um that day, uh they locked out uh billions and billions of dollars. Um some people had their lifetime savings in there because Mijinsky persuaded them to do it and said it was safe. Um I knew people that committed suicide because of that financial decision because they couldn't face their family and tell them that they lost everything and so they took their life. Um, I know people that had to come out of retirement at age 80 because they didn't have an alternative plan. Uh, I met people that there was one person on an ex basease that tried to persuade me because he sent me a picture of his child and said, "Look, this is my child, but I can't face this. I don't think I can bring him up anymore. Tell me why I shouldn't take myself right now." And I had to persuade him not to do it. Um, I met people that moved to Central and South America because they could no longer afford to live in America because they lost their entire savings in this whole thing. Um, and I was blessed because my father ended up on a pension and lost all his savings. Um, and it was only because I answered his question, uh, that I was able to actually afford to look after him. Um, and there were so many pensioners that lost their money. So, the day that he passed away was the day that pensioners got locked up locked out of their money. Um, and and um, I feel like there was some kind of messaging in there. Um, and I was able to work for two and a half years to recover as much money from that scam uh for as many victims as possible as well as myself. Um, and so, but I think that's the reason, you know, my my dad left me because that closed the journey.

>> Yeah.

>> And, uh, that's how I choose to interpret it, whether it's true or not.

>> Well done. Next time we do a podcast, I'll tell you the story about about my my little brother because it's actually very similar to yours. I won't tell you this time. Um it's been great talking to you, Simon. Um how um do people where do we sort of read you read about you read your stuff? You got a website? What?

>> Yeah. So um I I mainly have uh three things. So I give real-time commentary on X at Simon Dixon Twitter. That's where I hang out the most to give realtime analysis. Um, I've got a YouTube channel, Ax Simon Dixon 21, uh, where I go live every Friday. Uh, no sponsorship, nothing like I'm not at that stage in life. Um, and no monetization, no ads, anything. Um, and I just go through the week as a discipline where I go through, try and make some predictions around what happened, follow the monetary flows each week in tech, macro, geopolitics, and I just publish it every Friday. Um, and then, um, if I get taken out from any of those places, I back everything up at simonixon.com, um, and I feed it into AI to so that people rather than listening to four hours, they can get a 10-minute overview or a 15-inute blog or a or a 30 minute video. Um, so that if you don't have time, you can uh listen to it on simonixon.com.

>> Um, Simon Dixon, thank you very much. And dear my dear beloved listeners and viewers, um, thank you for watching me. I I really appreciate it. I I love you all, but I especially love the ones who make the extra effort and become paid subscribers, which you can do at my website, jamesstellaringpole.co.uk, or you can still you can go the Substack route. I I'm I'm suspicious of Substack, but I I see why it's it's quite a it functions quite well for interactions, so that that makes sense. But uh buy me a coffee. Buy me a coffee. That's always nice. Um but yeah, keep listening. Spread the word. Thank you very much. And thank you again, Simon Dixon.

>> Okay. Thanks for having me.