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defending the Book of Mormon against these two. Without the Book of Mormon, the church Joseph Smith organized on April 6, 1830 would virtually be unknown today and would have died in its infancy. The purpose of these anti-Mormon podcasters is to destroy what God has restored through the prophet Joseph Smith. In doing so, they seek to earn a great profit while disparaging of a great prophet.
Two years ago, I started working on a video titled Defending Joseph. I was motivated to do so after stumbling upon and watching a troubling podcast by the three guys you see at the bottom left of the screen. I had no idea who two of these men were, but I had heard of John Delin.
Who are those guys? >> So, the other two guys are Nemo the Mormon and he goes by Mike, which tells us nothing. John Delin, however, is very recognizable and has recently made national news as the LDS church is suing him. John in a video segment from two years ago appears to have a lot of anger towards the LDS church.
Hi everyone, I'm Dr. John Delin and welcome to the Mormon Stories podcast YouTube channel. I have a PhD in clinical and counseling psychology. And for the past 20 years, I've helped millions of people reclaim their power from unhealthy religious orthodoxy and where necessary transition to healthier, happier lives in or out of organized religion. On Mormon Stories podcast, we provide support to questioning Mormons, Mormons in faith crisis and anyone else who is awakening from the difficulties of a high demand religion. And we try to do so in a thoughtful and respectful way. And we try to do so in a thoughtful and respectful way. And we try to do so in a thoughtful and respectful way.
And it's true. When I was going to the temple, I literally made notions of slitting my throat just like that. That's what we get with God's one true prophets on the earth. Take us back to pre-restoration. Take us back to the apostasy because thank you very much Mormon prophets and revelators. We can do without your noise. >> Damn. We're coming for you, Russell M. Nelson.
We'll come back to these guys, but I need to pause here to inject a powerful positive segment of this video that provides overwhelming evidence of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. Then we can be better prepared discussing the negative and toxic environments created by these and other anti-Mormon podcasters. Here is that segment.
I think most of us except for criminals appreciate the value of fingerprints when it comes to personal identification. Fingerprints are infallible. They are foolproof. No two fingerprints are alike. Technology developed towards the end of the 19th century allowed for the capture and preservation of fingerprints. 1901, Scotland Yard established its first fingerprint bureau. 1902, the United States began using fingerprints for identification. Today, with the use of powerful modern computers, wordprints are another way to precisely identify individuals. Computers are programmed to analyze literature using statistics, math formulas, and artificial intelligence to determine the unique style of an author's writing. It was this technology that was used to identify and lead to the capture of the uniomber. How the uni bomber's unique linguistic fingerprints led to his capture.
Introducing John Hilton III. It was John's grandfather who worked with the FBI to help identify the uniomber which led to his capture. John is a professor of religious education at Brigham Y Young University. He has a master's degree from Harvard and a PhD from BYU, both in education. John has also put together a wonderful gospel-based website located at johnhiltoni.com. At this website, he provides his the Book of Mormon, a master class. This class is free and contains 52 incredible lessons on the Book of Mormon.
John's book, Voices in the Book of Mormon, compares the linguistic fingerprints of many major speakers in the Book of Mormon, from Nephi and Mormon to Jacob and Jesus Christ. This book examines the fact that the prophets in the Book of Mormon were individuals with distinctive speaking patterns that are unique in vocabulary and style. These voices highlight the textual richness and complexity of the Book of Mormon, providing meaningful evidence that Joseph Smith did not write it. Steven Jones of the podcast Let's Get Real and David Snell of Keystone Let's Talk About It conducted two fascinating interviews with Dr. Hilton exploring how word prints provide yet another powerful validation as to the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon. Here are two short segments from those two interviews.
He published my essay. I'll stop bombing people. Let me take you back to the 1990s. It's a totally different world back there. A guy named >> who's on the FBI's most wanted list because he's a uni bomber. >> People have died. People have been hurt. The FBI cannot figure out who this guy is. sends it to the New York Times, says, "If you publish my essay, I'll stop bombing people." New York Times contacts the FBI and then they contact my grandpa. >> Has used his techniques to help the FBI identify possible authors of the Uni Bombers Manifesto >> and that leads to the Uni Bomber being arrested. The idea that there's a unique style of writing. It's part of the academic literature and it was actually part of the criminal literature, >> but also has led to helping us discover that there are many unique voices in the Book of Mormon. It helps us answer the question if Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon. >> There's so much intellectual evidence that says there is no way Joseph Smith wrote the Book of Mormon. And WordPress is one of those.
So, one question that comes up is someone might be wondering, okay, well, is it possible though for a really clever author to create unique voices? >> And some researchers actually have investigated this. They looked at some prominent 19th century authors like Jane Austin, Charles Dickens, and running some of these kinds of statistical patterns that we've been talking about found that Charles Dickens was able to create different characters in his book that had voice diversity, but the voice diversity within the Book of Mormon was greater than the characters Charles Dickens created. So here you have one of the greatest authors of all times intentionally trying to create specific characters. And the Book of Mormon exhibits more diversity in character speech than his characters did. Coming from a young, poorly educated farm boy, right, in upstate New York. So again, this is telling us that Nephi, Jacob, Elma, Mormon, these are real people. They have real backstories and they're bringing that into the way that they write. One of the things that surprised me from the book was just how many different speakers there are in the Book of Mormon. >> Do you remember off the top of your head how many? >> Yes, you have about 150 different voices that you hear in the Book of Mormon.
Now, compare what you just heard about wordprints from Dr. John Hilton to what Dr. John Dyn is about to say regarding the Book of Mormon. As you listen to him, ask yourself, does he sound like a man with a PhD? As he rambles on, making a statement like, "All of us have been conditioned, not some of us or a lot of us, but all of us. Who seems more intelligent, Dr. Dyn or Dr. Hilton?"
Then listen to Alyssa Grenfell's 10word response on her thoughts about the Book of Mormon. So number one, you know, how could Joseph Smith have written the Book of Mormon? That's such an amazing book. You have to begin with the fact that all of us number one have been have been conditioned from birth to believe that it's an amazing sophisticated book. And it was John Hamer who first sort of like said something that felt blasphemous at the time, but that as I've sat with it really rings true, which is that it starts as a not impressive book. The Book of Mormon, Mark Twain called it chloroform in print. If you read the dictated manuscript, it reads like a lot of folksy gibberish that's been corrected much later. And and if you just think about your experiences reading the book, it's actually not a great book unless you've been taught from age zero that it's an amazing book. And you've had all these emotional experiences with your parents, with your grandparents, with your church leaders, in your ward situations. All of that colors and and kind of I I don't want to say poisons the well, but it sets you up to start by believing that it's this amazing, inspiring book. >> The Book of Mormon is a madeup fantasy book. The Book of Mormon is a madeup fantasy book.
So, here we are back to these three guys, the three amigos. I would call them the three stooges, but one of them has a PhD. In any event, these three men accused Joseph Smith of being a fraud. They claimed that the Book of Mormon was a product of Joseph's imagination, borrowing and plagiarizing from various sources. Consequently, to them, the church and everything else that has grown out of Joseph Smith's deception is the fruit of a poisonous tree. Their mission is to chop the tree down by debunking Mormonism. With hundreds of podcasts and years of experience, they are successfully chopping away at the Mormon tree branch by branch and leaf by a leaf.
Here is the Mormon Stories YouTube page from a screenshot I took two years ago on May 21st, 2024. On that date, it shows that they had 249,000 subscribers and 1,900 videos. Then two years later to the very day I took this screenshot on May 21st, 2026. It shows that Mormon stories grew by 58,000 new subscribers. It also shows they produced another 700 videos. In addition to the money YouTube pays for viewership, Mormon Stories also solicits for donations. Mormon Story Podcast is dedicated to exploring, celebrating, and challenging. And I would change that word to disparaging Mormon culture in constructive. And I would change that word to nonconstructive ways.
And then there's Nemo the Mormon and his first name is Douglas with his own YouTube website showing at the time two years ago he had 327 videos. He too needs donations in addition to selling shirts. And then there's Mike, whoever he is. Mike, we are told, was involved in building this website. I can only imagine the hundreds, if not thousands of hours spent creating this. And under the final summary, we read in part, quote, "The Book of Mormon is not an ancient authentic text and that the elements that are unique about Mormonism are not good." Wow, impressive writing. These three helped in the creation of LDS discussions, an examination of Mormon truth claims. At this point in time, two years ago, there were 55 podcasts. Many of the podcasts are over two hours in length. This is the podcast that I watched that initially fueled my response to create this video titled How the Book of Mormon was composed. For two hours and 17 minutes, I watched the entire podcast. It was painful. Quote, "The conclusion of the video summarizes the argument and reiterates the position that the Book of Mormon was not written by a prophet, but rather composed by Joseph Smith."
Fast forward to our current day. Nemo the Mormon has been working his YouTube site for over five years now and John Delin for over 20 years. However, there's a new star in town. Her name is Alyssa Grenfell and she is dominating the anti-Mormon YouTube viewership and subscription base. Here is her YouTube page that I made appear to come up and down like a roll of toilet paper. How appropriate. The screenshot of her site, as you can see, was taken on May 21st, 2026. Notice the thumbnail bottom center there. You can see our two anti-Mormon stars together in a podcast discussing John Delin's LDS lawsuit. Here's a page showing Alyssa's oldest podcast only two years ago. Notice the podcast topics. She certainly started out nasty. Here's Alyssa's page showing her most viewed podcasts.
Now, let's take a look side by side. Starting out with Mormon Stories at the Mormon Story podcast description, we read, quote, "Mormon Stories podcast with Dr. John Delin is the longest running and most successful podcast in Mormonism." Unquote. Yes, it is the longest, but Alyssa is now defining what successful means. Next, Nemo the Mormon. 5 years in the business with 44,000 subscribers, 629 videos, and 13,865,000 views. Finally, there's the newbie. Only two years in the anti-Mormon podcast arena, and she is dominating it. Here currently are the most viewed podcast episode for each of them. Mormon stories 1.4 million views. Nemo the Mormon 153,000 views. Alyssa site 2.4 million views. So it's time to make the varsity cut. Nemo the Mormon just doesn't have the numbers.
Now, this is amazing. John Delin with his Mormon stories has been in business over 20 years, 10 times longer than Alyssa Grenfell. However, Alyssa in just two years has attracted twice the number of total subscribers as John has and well over twice the number of his views.
In part two, I have a challenge. If you can accomplish this challenge, you will put all the anti-Mormon podcasters out of business and make yourself wealthy in the process. Thank you for watching. Part two with the challenge coming soon.