Welcome to the Whatever Dating Talk podcast, where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape. I'm your host, Brian Atlas. We're coming to you live from Santa Barbara, California.

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Hi, my name is Sam. I'm from Florida, and I'm 19, and I do content creation.

All right. What kind of content?

Um, adult entertainment.

Okay. Any sort of, uh, you know, like, like what kind?

Um, explicit content. I, you know, do you do BG—BG content? Not necessarily. I don't want to go—I don't really post that necessarily. It's a, you know, it's just a form of entertainment through content. I post kind of like an inside of my life, just a little bit more in-depth than what I would post on like Instagram or Snapchat.

Okay. Uh, and any college or anything like that?

Um, no, I did graduate, but I just haven't gone for any of that stuff yet, but I do want to go into marketing and stuff, just haven't sure.

Okay. What about you?

Hi, I'm Alien. I'm 26. Um, I work at a factory or warehouse or whatever, plus I'm kind of do my own thing, and then I'm also from Arizona.

Okay. Uh, any education, college, anything like that?

Yes.

Okay. Uh, did you get your bachelor's? Well, you know, I kind of dropped out unwillingly, but I went to college.

Yeah. Okay. Um, and you do OAF, is that correct?

Uh, sometimes, yeah, like it's up there, but I don't really participate in it.

Okay. Got it. That chair—I apologize; this chair is incredibly squeaky. Um, okay. What about you?

My name is Sarah Tasha. I'm 29 years old, and I'm a poet. I also have a master's in public administration from USC.

Sorry, could you repeat your age again?

I'm sorry, 29.

29. Got it. And a master's in from USC in what again?

Public administration.

Public administration. Okay. And uh, where are you from?

Reynoldsburg, Ohio, is where I was born—from Ohio.

Got it. Okay. What about you?

Yeah, my name is uh, Nazan Noble. I'm 47, a business owner, bachelor's degree in English, entrepreneur, tech enthusiast, life coach from LA.

Okay. Uh, right. What about you?

Hi, I'm Tiffany. I'm 19. I go to UCSB. I'm majoring in poly sci and econ, and I'm from here.

All right. Welcome.

Hey, my name is Val. I'm 30 years old, and um, I consider myself an underground comedian. Uh, I'd like to shout out my fans. I have a new name for you guys; you guys are meanie babies. Um, other than that, I barely went to school. I just went as little as legally possible, so that's where I'm at. I went—I have some college, uh, that's about it.

Okay. All right. What about you?

My name is Felicity. I'm 18, from Santa Barbara, and I'm a dental assistant, and I go to college for business.

All right.

My name is Jim Bob. I go by Made by Jim Bob. I'm a political cartoonist, and uh, I do social commentary at MadebyJimBob on YouTube, and you can find me on MadebyJimBob on Instagram. I also brought Shameless Grift, uh, Brian, three of my—my books. You can see them. Yeah, they're for you. I'll put them on my bookshelf.

Yeah, you will giggle at those. The first two volumes are sold out. There's three for me: Post-Truth Booster, Cultura ad Absurdum. You're going to love them.

Thank you. Appreciate the gift. That's very kind. Uh, all right, cool. And wait, so um, uh, where you—did you say where you're from?

I'm from Colorado. I was so—I was so focused on your books.

Okay. You're from Colorado. Got it. Perfect. And did you get uh, like a gra—a degree from somewhere or did—

I mean, I got an associate's degree.

Okay. Got it. All right, cool. Uh, so we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship status? If you're single, how long have you been single, and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead.

Um, I am in a relationship, and I've been with him since last October.

All right, so eight months?

What—eight months or what?

Yeah. Okay. Longest relationship, uh, two and a half years.

2.5 years. Okay. From what age to what age was that relationship?

That was 16 till 18.

Okay. How soon after that uh, breakup did you meet your current uh, boyfriend?

Um, I met him last June, so it took a couple months.

Okay. Who broke up with who in the 2.5-year relationship?

Um, I broke up with him. It was a domestic relationship; it was pretty bad actually, so—

Oh, so you were abusing him? Or—

Oh, no. Oh, you think—No, he was abusing me. But—

Oh, you said domestic violence?

Yeah, hit him on me. Oh, yeah. Uh, I mean, I got my—I got a couple hits in for sure, but—but he got, you know, he got a little more than me, so yeah, I left him.

Okay. So he was the aggressor.

Okay. All right. Uh, and then um, how long have you been doing the OnlyFans?

Since last December. You know, it's recent; it's new. So you—you met your current boyfriend, and then you were not doing sex work, but now you're doing sex work?

Yeah, so I started it with him last December—mid-December. Was he like pushing you to start it? Or—

No, it was—it was my idea. I was actually working for him; he was my boss. Um, I was working in automotive and sales. Um, I really like cars, but then I just kind of got bored, and I made it, and that was kind of it, and it kind of worked, so I started using what was at my hands, you know.

Okay. All right. What about you?

I'm single. How long have you been single? Uh, basically all my life. I had situationships, but never really had a real relationship.

Okay. And what about the trees? Weren't you in love with a tree?

Yeah, I'm still in love with him. I still go see him.

How do you know? Well, I guess trees do have a sex, right?

They—

Do you check—How do you check the sex of a tree?

I believe that majority of trees that are just planted around are uh, male. They're mostly male.

Yeah, they're mostly male. That's why pollen is so—the pollen from the trees are so like—

Okay. How many—how many relationships with trees um, have you had?

Um, well, it just depends on what type of relationship we're talking about. Like, I have sexual relationships—I don't have sexual relationships, but I have like one that I like—I call my babe, and then the other ones I like go and see as like an ancestor type of thing, or like I look at as—as a friend or whatever, like a giving tree situation.

Sure. That's what's up. If you found out the tree was a woman, would you consider yourself bi—

I wouldn't care.

Has a tree ever cheated on you?

I mean, probably. Quick—more than likely, it's the roots.

Oh, it's the roots. Yeah, they communicate through their roots, so whatever's probably already always there is probably communicating to like the other trees around like, "This crazy [ __ ] keeps coming over and calling me babe," you know what I mean? But I love it, so it's whatever. It's whatever. Wait, so okay, to be clear though, you have been single your entire life. You've never—What's the longest period of time you've dated a guy?

Six to eight months.

Six to eight months, but you didn't call him boyfriend, girlfriend?

I don't really look to date like that. I see—

Okay. Um, have you ever told a guy or a girl you love them?

No.

Okay. So you've never been in love?

Have you been in love with a tree?

I—I love all trees. Yeah. No—love like—I get—But love—in love—in love—in love. Well, maybe it depends—it depends on like the type of tree, that cuz listen, I'm weird, so don't like—don't let me get into it, cuz then I'll start devil into like different things, and you're going to be like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking about?"

Okay. Sure. Uh, what about you?

Um, that totally relation—yeah, like what was the question?

Uh, yeah, yeah. I'll fine. I can see how that could throw you off. Uh, I'll repeat it. Uh, so uh, relationship status? Okay. Um, I'm currently dating um, exclusively, and I am technically legally married right now.

Technically legally—Wait, so okay, but you're not currently dating the guy who you're technically legally—

No, I'm not married to—I've been trying to divorce him for two years now.

I see. Okay. Uh, wait, so how long have you been seeing this current guy?

Um, about three, four months now.

Okay. And oh, yeah, longest relationship um, was the marriage.

The marriage. Okay. How long have you guys been separated?

Um, two years—two to three years.

Two to three. Okay. And you're uh, you're Muslim, is that correct?

I am.

Okay. As-salamu alaykum.

Okay. Uh, how long have you been—has it been your whole life that you're—

No, I reverted about six years ago.

Okay. Was your husband—is he Muslim?

He says he is.

What do you mean he says he is? What does that mean? Because to be Muslim, you have to, you know, have some character developments there, and they weren't there during our relationship.

I see. Okay. Um—

All right, cool. Is your current boyfriend, or whatever guy you're dating, is he Muslim?

He's not. He's not.

Okay. Um, is that a problem for you?

I guess it—it is. Technically, in Islam, you're not allowed to marry a man that isn't Muslim.

What about a tree?

I—I—I don't think that's um, been recorded in the hadith like a situation like that.

Um, okay. Sure. All right. Um, well, we'll get—we'll get into some of that stuff in a bit, but uh, what about you?

Well, um, longest relationship was my marriage. Um, I've been married twice: one for 13 years, and the other one um, from the start to divorce, like eight years. Uh, technically, I—these two were the longest relationships that I've um, ever had. I haven't been in—and I'm single right now.

You're single now?

Yeah. And I haven't been uh, um, out of marriage—I haven't been actually in a relationship, to be honest with you.

Okay. Um, how long have you been uh, single?

Uh, since 2018. So let's say what—seven years.

Yeah. Willingly single?

What do you mean willingly single?

Um, it's uh, for me is um, it's just not easy to accept people in my life. It's not that easy. It has to—it has to um, take its time, and I—there's no rush for it, and I'm—I've been busy with business and basically—

You have kids, right?

Yeah, I have a daughter; she's 25. Just one kid.

Okay. Um, and is that from your first marriage or your second marriage?

First marriage.

First marriage. Okay. And then um, I'm trying to think here—nope, that's not going to get me—so one kid—have you been—Wait, have you not dated anybody? You said you've been single for seven years. Have you not dated anybody for seven years? So you've been—have you been celibate for seven years?

Um, you could say that.

Yeah.

What do you mean I could say that?

Um, there are things you do to take care of yourself. You need—you do that, but with a—in with somebody—no.

Okay. And I—And it's because I'm just a—I have my own um, weird ways of doing things, which is um, I rather be on my own than being with someone—around someone that I have to tolerate them. So I don't—

I don't think you have to tolerate anybody. You have to—I—I believe you have to be willingly want to be around someone and whenever you want, and um, and it's just not something you can find in everybody. So you—you have to take your time; you have to just uh, get to the point that you want to be um, available or somebody or find someone that would want to willingly be around you. I don't like these um, social contracts of um, the way people do it is just—doesn't work for me. So no rush; see what happens.

Okay. Um, and so two marriages uh, who initiated the divorce in the first marriage?

Me.

Who initiated the divorce in the second marriage?

It was mutual; both of us. And we are best friends now, me and my ex.

Okay. Um, all right. And so one mutual—why did you initiate the first one?

Uh, we were just two different people; completely different people. I'm optimistic, positive; I love life; I try to see beauty in things, and um, we were just different. He was uh, negative, and um, the energy was just—got to the point that I didn't want to be around that energy. I—I couldn't be around that energy anymore.

I see. Okay. All right. What about you?

I'm taken; I'm in a relationship; it's my first ever one, and same guy.

Okay. How long have you guys been together?

We've been together for one year and five months now.

Gotcha. And he's the—There's been a bit of confusion as to like, is he the Christian nationalist guy or—

Yeah, did—I think originally maybe you misspoke; you said he was a white a uh—well, those things go hand in hand, but like—

Okay. Got it. Usually, but—Christian nationalist. Got it. Okay. Um, can someone explain what that is? What is a Christian nationalist? You want to explain—explain what did—

Um, so a white Christian nationalist would want to maintain America majority white, basically.

Wow. You don't consider yourself—well, what—what's your nationality? What's your ethnicity?

I'm—my ethnicity is Korean, but I'm—I have a US passport.

Do you not consider yourself a minority?

Well, I am a minority.

So how do you feel about dating someone who's a white nationalist who wants to maintain America to be majority white?

Um, uh, I mean, I'm—I'm not into politics like that too much, but I don't really care about what he supports—that—like, is that the insinuation that he'd prefer it to be majority white?

You don't think that that's disrespectful towards you at all?

No. I mean, he's not saying it has to be 100% white, but—what's the motive there? Is there like—why is that—you know—what's the difference between diversity and preserved culture?

What culture at all? But like—just curious of your mindset. Are you willing to get plastic surgery to make your face more white?

I'm open to plastic surgery; I actually would love to get a nose job done, but it's not to make myself more white; it's just cuz that's a phenomenon in Korea, isn't it?

I mean, yes, I guess if you were to kind of deeply analyze the culture, but I just want to do it to make myself look better.

You're beautiful the way you are, ma'am.

Can you ask a question?

Sure. Um, any question—

Continue with the relationship status. Okay. Uh, yeah, sorry, go ahead. So—um, and speak into the mic loud; you're a comedian, right?

I'm nervous.

Yeah, just let it out. This is my debut. Loud, yeah. So uh, my longest relationship was 10 years; that was my last relationship. Uh, I've been single for six months. Okay. I'm currently on a break right now, but my longest relationship is this one—almost two years.

Nice. Um, I have been with my wife for nine years now, and we have three kids. So—but that tree thing—how do you—has—has me second-guessing. How do you feel about being married for nine years in this day and age?

I feel like a boomer. Um, I—I'm honestly—I look out on the street here, and I'm like, I don't know how you guys do it today. Like, I was lucky to get out of that, honestly, and I'm actually not sure why uh, so little amount of people aren't pursuing, you know, a marriage—something stable, you know, roots in the ground. Why—why are people running around dating uh, if isn't the ultimate goal of dating—if it works out—is to settle down? Like, what else would the goal be? I just had a conversation with someone literally this morning at like 4:00 in the morning about how—having a child is a bigger commitment than getting married, but everyone is having children and not getting married. Doesn't make any sense to me. So yeah, I mean, does anyone want to answer that if they think that like dating's just for fun? If you find the perfect person, isn't—doesn't it just follow that you build something with that person? Like, yeah, of course. Does it just stay like neutral? Or—I feel like sometimes though, like especially people younger, you know, if they don't wait a while, they have a different, you know, perspective on it. They don't—they like—they'll choose something they like over something they love and within five minutes, and I think that's why a lot of relationships on either side tend to fail at this day and age because of literally that—they find something they like more than whatever they love—so short-term choices, right?

Yeah. Impulsive decisions.

Yeah, I mean, short-term choices—I—I think can ruin someone's—not—not their life; it could ruin their life, but it ruins their prospect for the future, cuz I mean, I—in my perspective, I feel like dating somebody is just like every day you wake up, and you're like, "I'm going to date this person," and then turns out it's eight years later, nine years later, and it just—that is commitment in itself, and it's in a sense pretty easy. I just feel like a lot of people don't view it that way, you know, but I'm considering the topic—don't you think that it's possible that you—you personally—the choice you're making uh, to do what you're doing now—do—would you say that's a short-term choice as opposed to a long-term choice?

Like, being with my boyfriend or pornography—OnlyFans—adult content—I do view it as short-term; obviously, I don't think longevity—it would, you know, work, but I do think I have a certain plan with it where I can make it work towards longevity. I'm not just jumping into it because it's a money grab. I am actually, you know, kind of looking as a business opportunity. So I think if done well, you know, with me and whoever else who does it, I think it can be done right and not, you know, cringey or however people, you know, view it; it can be done a certain way.

Do you think it minimizes uh, the potential um, pool of men in this case who would settle down with you and make a family?

No, it doesn't. I say that with a little bit of a grain of salt, cuz I mean, I already have a boyfriend, you know, and we're already pretty serious, and I'm pretty sure all that stuff's already locked in. Um, but there is a part, you know, where it's—if I started, you know—oh, I don't know if I can say what started—I don't know if I can say it—whenever I started it—if I was single, maybe there might be a problem, you know. So it kind of depends on your situation, you know, if you want to start it, but you're single, then have that in the back of your mind; you might not find someone, cuz yeah, some guys might not be fine with it, you know. I had a boyfriend before, and we talked about it; it wasn't a—in the plan, so I didn't do it, but sometimes just happens, you know. My boyfriend's much older than me, too, so he has a different view on things.

How much older is he? Sorry, that's okay.

Uh, my boyfriend's in his 30s, so like third—like how—30s? He's mid-30s, so like 35.

Okay. And um, so you were in a relationship when you started?

Yeah, so he was my boss, so I was working in sales for him in automotive, um, and then just randomly one day I kind of got bored, and I made the account, and whenever I started posting on it, my other social medias kind of jumped on it, and it worked, and it's kind of been nothing but improving, so I just keep going with it.

Improving—you mean making more money—statistics all over—you know, it's not necessarily about the money either. I like the impression I give; I try not to come off on social media so I'm just that content creator, you know. I like having other stuff, like my cars, you know. I like to do stuff on my cars and all that stuff, so I try not to be viewed that way because I feel like there can be a fine line with it, and I'm trying to get right in the middle of it, so—and how long have you been doing comedy?

I haven't really—I've been doing it since like August. I actually didn't even know live streams are always white noise to me. Mhm. Cuz I'm like, why wouldn't I just 2x it later? And then I realized I could go in the chat—have you done a really sad—have you gone up in front of physical people?

Oh, no. Not happening.

Yeah, well, that's going to be required if—if you want to call yourself like a stand-up comic, at least.

I don't want to be stand-up come—

Oh, okay. All right. Sorry, guys. I had to step away momentarily. Um, so okay, Felicity, you're on a break, and then you're also single, correct?

How long single?

Uh, six months.

Six months. Okay. Cool. All right. Um, I did want to start off with uh, let's see—you said you're—you've been—you're in an age-gap relationship, is that correct?

What's the age gap?

Uh, 17 years, I think.

Okay. So you're 19, and he's uh, 36, or wait, did I get that right? My math is mathing. All right. And um, is he a white guy?

No, he's a black guy. We have a picture—not of him—go ahead, pull it up.

What the [ __ ]? Honest—and that was—that was on your Twitter. I gotta be honest—um, I think any—like, if you ever get out of the OF—well, just the—just all the O stuff, but like—that picture, I think it's going to be a problem for a lot of guys.

What's going to be a problem? Just that picture? It's going to be a problem.

I don't understand the—that picture, honestly. All the—

Pictures the OF stuff. I think it's going to be it's going to make dating a little harder. I'm not really worried about it. I don't know why I pulled that [ __ ] up, but what, like it's okay cuz I'm not really worried about it. And like, even if me and him break up, which we more than likely won't, but if we do, that's okay. I will literally live by myself cuz I already have a cat, so I'm technically fine. Okay, I honestly I think it does more good than does it harm, so sweet.

When you're doing OAF stuff with your partners, do you ever think about your kids, like future children? Honestly, I don't really want kids. I mean, I thought about it, but not really. I grew up where all my sisters kind of had kids really early on, so it wasn't really something I wanted to do. Um, and I did think about it. If I did, I would make sure OAF is long gone. You know, I wouldn't have social media. I'd make sure my kids wouldn't have it till they were old enough to process if they found out. And if I did do that, then oh well, you know, if they found out, they'd realize while they were in a condo in Miami. You know what I mean? So it's okay, good times, cool.

Um, here I need to go over a couple things really quick. Uh, Anthony, he bought something from our shop, shop.Whatever.com, uh, sent in a donation. Also, still hoping to find a decent girlfriend. Any suggest—oh wait, did it not show up? Hold on. Wait. Oh, it did pop up. Okay, I'm tripping. Yo, Anthony, thank you for the—I think he bought a sweater. Unfortunately, Streamlabs, it doesn't show the actual item, but he bought a sweater, sweatshirt, hoodie from the whatever shop. So thank you, man, really appreciate it, Anthony. Um, okay, so good times. Um, I wanted to come back to you. Um, oh, do you go to like—so I'm not really super familiar with the with Islam, the faith. Do you go to mosa—like a mosque every—the masid? Yes. Wait, can you uh open all the way—all the way just open. Um, so you you go on—is it Sundays or Fridays? Juma Fridays. Okay. Oh, and we were we had you scheduled like—was it two weeks ago? Three weeks ago? But like, is it still Ramadan? No. Ramadan ended March 29th. March 29th. Okay, so you were you were like fasting? I was fasting. Yes. What is the—isn't the fasting though it's like just through the day or through sunlight or some [ __ ]? Yeah, so sunrise, which is fudger, it's around—it was like around um 5:40ish in the morning, and then you get to eat again at Mghreb, which is around 7:00 p.m. So, and it diff—it differentiates based on the time zone and like where you're at in the world in the sun. So, does—in Islam, are you allowed to have premarital sex? Absolutely not. That was my question. Are you currently having—if you want me to reveal my sins online, I I totally am engaging in premarital sex. So how do you reconcile the whole Islam thing with the [ __ ]? You ask for forgiveness. I pray. But I mean, here maybe you should weigh in. Isn't there like a component—I mean, even in the Christian faith uh you're supposed to be striving towards and not making continuous—Yeah, I mean, I don't know the Islam uh distinction for repentance or anything or confession, but um, you know, um, but also isn't under the Islam view is—is don't you hold the view that Allah dictates all—What do you mean by that? That Allah dictates everything? So it's like that like uh that even your sins would be ultimately dictated by by God? Judged? Absolutely. No, actually dictated like like—Oh, like causal chain like determined free will versus—Okay, yeah, yeah. Um, yes, we believe that your life was already written before, so Allah had you doing premarital sex already anyway, so he needs to—you need—you need to forgive him. Stop it. Um, no, I mean, no, I—He—He has also written for me to ask for forgiveness, so while I'm sinning I'm also—It's written for me to be asking for—So you didn't—you don't forgive using your own free will then? It's actually just like a sort of like a tentacle of God, it's like he's wiggling, you know, like he—in other words, any movement or thought you have or action you have was already destined to happen and dictated and written by Allah. Correct? Including the the worst of sins, the worst of the worst? Mhm. Do you think it might impede—I know your boyfriend's kind of lukewarm about it. Do you think that might help or hurt? What do you mean like uh the premarital sex? Like do you—are you asking me if he would be bothered by that being a role or like what do you mean? Well, you said he was like kind of lukewarm or he—No, that was your last boyfriend, right? My husband. Your husband. Yes. Yes, he—Yes, my husband—he was not practicing 100%, and I think that everyone struggles in their religions and just in general generally speaking. I think it's kind of odd that Islam is viewed as—like maybe it's cuz the women cover up, but like they're viewed at a higher standard, like even in Christianity you're supposed to cover up and you don't see women walking around in like nun outfits. You know what I mean? I totally agree. So it's kind of odd that that's how things are. It's like you have to strive for perfection. You know, get the rocks. Yeah, get the rocks. Get the rocks. So wait, so—um, I was—I saw your Instagram. Uh, can we um pull up the Instagram? All right, there it is. Um, scroll down a little bit. What? Pause. Pause. Scroll back. Whoa, up. Scroll up. Okay. Wait, so don't scroll back down yet, but that one in the bottom left—well the—Okay [ __ ] it. Scroll down, bro. That's looking right down Main Street. Right down Main Street. If that's where your eyes are going to go, then that's where your eyes are going to go. It's not my fault. How do you—How do you reconcile Islam? That's crazy. And just spread—She already said Allah pre-wrote her Instagram account to do that. Yeah, technically showing it also. I'd say that—how does like accountability exist within the religion then? What do you mean? How does accountability—I think the accountability is you—what's the—what's the point of uh repentance or what's—where's the commitment to the religion if if it's just a word? So it's just a word, so you can just say I was born as Muslim, but then I want to do whatever I want to do. But but why—why sticking to that when you want to do this? What's—what's where is the—where is the line? I think that people—or I—I would say that I am Muslim. I'm not Islam. So Islam is perfect, and I'm not perfect. And I think that especially as someone who—as a woman who is going through divorce, I think I'm expressing my empowerment in a different way. And my Instagram did not look like that nine months ago. I think I've overgone like a transformation of some sort. Can you tell me though, because if you hold an an Islam view, ultimately something like empowerment would have to be filtered through the the Muslim view, right? So can you tell me how a picture like that is considered empowerment under Islam? I don't think I hold the Islamic perspective because I'm not Islam. I'm a Muslim. So that's a—that's like me saying I'm a Christian, but I don't hold to Christian doctrine. No, that's not like you saying that. What I'm saying is I have a human way of thinking, and my human way of thinking is not as perfect as the Islamic law, but you know—So are you saying that's not empowerment? No, I'm saying that my woman empowerment and how I view it is completely separate from Islam and how they view women empowerment. Women empowerment through Islam is projected to be hijab, fully covered, abstaining from sex, you wait until you're married, all that. Okay, separate from Islam, what do you think women's—woman empowerment actually is then, from your view in this day and age? I definitely think it's owning who you are. Owning who you are. Owning your body. Owning your right to choose. I think that while we have religious beliefs in general, it doesn't fully align with current day and age, and it takes a special kind of person to be able to persevere through—am I allowed to cuss? I don't know if I'm allowed to cuss, but like be like "Fuck what's going on in this day and age. I'm going to just fully be submerged in my religion." That takes a special kind of human being, and I have my flesh too. Like I'm not perfect, like I said, I'm not Islam. I'm a Muslim. It seems like this day and age what you're doing is actually the easier thing to do, and the the rebellious thing to do in this day and age is actually uh be uh humble and subtle, right? That seems to be harder, especially in the West. I agree. Would you agree? I agree. To be modest is actually the challenge. So that's why I think like empowerment—if empowerment for women means basically share your body and call it liberation—um, I think it's easy to do that. It's not—it doesn't take much. So that's why I'm like wondering how could—how could someone call it empowerment if it's so easy to do? I disagree with that only because a lot of women—a lot of people are not confident and comfortable with their bodies. Well, if someone's uncomfortable in principle in showing their body, would you equate that with that they're not confident in their body? Because I could see how someone could be confident in their body but just not share it with the entire world. That's why I said it's—and be not like—or because you could be confident with your body and be uncomfortable showing it, or you can be comfortable with your body and be uncomfortable showing it. Okay. Are you committed to marrying or remarrying a Muslim man? Yes. I'm still Muslim, and I still would like to marry a Muslim man—man—but a liberated empowered man who like—who likes his wife half naked, spread eagle on Instagram, cuz—cuz just to call you out, you called her out for correctly—so by the way, you said "Don't you think what you're doing now could affect the future of having children." I didn't call you—I didn't call you out. I was asking you a question. No, it's a good question about that you were—okay, no, it's—I'm not saying it like confrontational. I'm saying that that's a good question, but you need to ask yourself the same question, specifically because if you're looking for a Muslim man, they're going to be even more rigorous than the modern man that you're probably questioning her about um when he sees that. You know, what is he going—what is this potential um strict—let's say a strict um Muslim practitioner is going to say about that. I don't think with where I'm at in my life, I don't think I would be in a situation where I'd be married to a strict Muslim man. Um, so a weak Muslim man—I wouldn't say weak either. I think there's different levels of commitment in religion across the board, and this is—and it is currently a conversation on my Instagram. I don't hide that I'm Muslim. I say alhamdulillah like—all—I speak it in my regular everyday speech. Um, and it just—it stands that regardless of what religious belief that you say you have, I think everyone struggles in some perspective. Do you think there's as many forms of Islam as there are people? What do you mean? I mean, you're saying—well, there's a wide spectrum of people's beliefs and how they hold or practice Islam, but that kind of says that it's like relativist. It's like—it's like there's no right way—uh, do you hold—are you willing to say that there's no right, correct way to practice Islam? No. When I—Well, let me rephrase what I said. When I say everyone has religious beliefs, I'd mean Christianity, Judaism, whatever you believe in, you're not perfect in your religion. So I—I wasn't saying that there's—you could worship in Islam any type of way you want to. No. What's wrong is wrong, and I don't think that what I'm doing on my Instagram is 100% correct. No, but I also have myself in my flesh in the things that I struggle with. Would you put a percent on incorrect that it is? Um, it would be 100% incorrect from an Islam view—from an Islamic view of how a Muslim should be dressed. Absolutely 100% incorrect. If you want to talk about intention though, that's a completely different story. What is the intention with that kind of content? As I stated, women empowerment. I think, you know, I wasn't asked why I'm going through a divorce, but men have a way of completely breaking you if you allow them to, on a spiritual, mental, emotional, sometimes even physical level. And I was in a marriage where I got broken into pieces, and I allowed him to do that because when you're married to someone, you become immersed in each other's lives, and you—it's very hard to find that separation line, and it took me a long time to even get to where I'm at and be comfortable with my body and confident in it enough to even pose something like that. I know, but it's just weird because before you criticized this man for being like a lukewarm Muslim, but your—your reaction to it, your empowerment reaction, your very definition of empowerment is lukewarm Islam. I disagree with that too, because Islam is not just how you look. It's about how you treat people, but how you treat yourself. But isn't there an element of treating yourself a certain way? I don't think—I don't feel in my heart of hearts that I'm mistreating myself. Okay, but Islam—and what is more important from my perspective is how you go about treating humanity over how you look, cuz I could look Muslim and be a complete [ __ ]. I think you're kind of picking and choosing what you want from the religion when you're actually one foot in and one foot out. How so? When I said my Instagram was 100% wrong—wait, say that again. I said my Instagram and how it looks was 100% wrong in terms of Islam—Islamic rules. So how am I—action—you're still choosing to post those kind of pictures because I have weaknesses as a human being, and that's how I'm going about portraying myself. But how I'm portraying myself is not Islamic, and it is wrong. I didn't pick and choose anything. You're—you're not making an action though. You're not consciously like choosing to align yourself with the laws of your religion. What do you mean? You're—it's in a contradiction. She's saying it's also a contradiction in one st—sent—sentence. You're saying this is 100% wrong, and I know it, and you're calling yourself a Muslim, and then premise two is this is empowering, so both of those can't be true if you call yourself a Muslim. That's incorrect, because I would pose the same question to Christians that drink excessively or do drugs but want to call themselves Christians. The fact of the matter is religion—one of the reasons it exists is because we are all not perfect, and we're striving to be perfect. That's not a good analogy though, because a Christian who's a drunkard, which means that he's incapable of fulfilling his duties—not to say someone getting drunk is uncchristian, it's that the perpetuation of disabling yourself such that you can't fulfill your duties that would be uncchristian. But even in that example, that—that Christian would only—it would only be analogous for you to say that if they said this is empowering. You lost me a little bit. They would have to say being drunk, which is antithetical to Christianity—being a drunkard—if they said it's empowering. That's what you're saying about those pictures. So you're saying it's totally wrong and inconsistent with Islam, but you're saying it's empowering, whereas the drunkard Christian is not saying it's empowering. They're not defending it. They're just saying they're weak and they need help, and they want—they—they will repent. You're not saying any of that. You're just saying I'm empowered. I'm saying that on a flesh level and how I think in this worldly society it is empowering to me. If on an Islamic level, that's a completely different conversation, and it's 100% incorrect. That's where you lost me when you were like "Oh, you're picking choosing stuff from the religion." No, I'm not. It's 100% wrong to post stuff like that on Instagram. It's 100% wrong for me to be sitting here on this podcast with my hair exposed. It's 100%—How do you—um—how do you define empowerment? I would define empowerment by—get the rocks. Get the rocks. Anything that liberates you as the person you want to be. So I'm a woman—anything that is liberating me as a woman in today's society, I would define as empowering. Can I add something? I think everyone's just having a hard time because like you judged your ex-husband for not being a strong Muslim. So it's like, you know—I judged him for how he treated people, not how he looked. Well, not on the way that he looks, but I'm just saying like the fact that you're saying like what if—what she's saying is what if your ex said treating people that way he found empowering as a man, you know, like, you know, aggressive man mistreating people, you know, yelling, whatever he's doing, right? You found—like the fact that you're—the way that you're presenting yourself online—like I don't have a problem with it, by the way. I don't give a [ __ ], but like the way that you're presenting yourself—that you're not a strong like Muslim—like the way that you portrayed him earlier. You know what I mean? I would say that you're entitled to your opinion, and I wouldn't argue with that. However, I think Islam—I think all religions—well, we're talking about Islam, let me not make this about all religions—in Islam, it is more important how you go about treating people and how you maneuver through the world than how you look. That's a superficial—is that written in the book of Islam? Is what—written in the book? You're talking about the Quran, that—or the Quran? Yeah, that treating people in kindness is more important than um being modest? No, it doesn't say that. I can't—So then why are you making the judgment? I'm making the judgment because if I decide to come over there and like do something to you physically, wouldn't that be worse than me just sitting here looking like this? That's coming from your own mind though. God should be the judge of whether or not—Do you want to ask him? Would you like to ask one? Well, we already asked—we—No, we already established—that's why it's kind of a roundabout uh argument, because ultimately Islam holds that it's all determined. So even—even for you to say these pictures are inconsistent with Islam for me, I would critique and say, well, they can't be inconsistent because that—those pictures were determined and written by Allah anyway, so that can't—that can't be inconsistent with Islam. It's—is Allah—is Allah determining the way your husband treated other people and you posting those photos? It is inconsistent with Islam because my life story and my husband's life story and all the Muslims' life stories are not the Quran. It's not the hadith. It's not Islamic law. Like we have our own journeys. So yeah, it's like subject—you have a subjective—you're basically writing your own religion inside of your religion, right? Allah wrote my life story inside of Islam, right? So then it's not inconsistent. It's a determinist view that says Allah, being the dictator of all, pointed and made it so before you even did it that you would do those pictures. So in a sense, a shortcut would be to say Allah posted those pictures. Correct? No, I posted those pictures. No, but Allah used you to post those pictures, right? In some perspect—Yeah, yeah. If you want to view it that way. And to your point, I do remember it does say there are ayas, which is like a verse in the Quran that does say that all sins are not equal. It doesn't directly say that modesty is more important than how you treat people, but it does say that sins are not all equal. Would you say you have a personal relationship with God? Absolutely. And I don't think my relationship with Allah should be judged by my Instagram. Okay, how should your relationship be judged by—I actually think it's inappropriate for you to use a photo to say whether someone is—No, no, my question was then how should a person—I don't think you should judge—I don't think you should—How should Allah judge your photos being that he crafted them himself? I think Allah is going to judge me on not just the photos, but also the intent behind me posting the photos and what led from me posting those photos, meaning like what the reaction from the public—I'm going to be judged by what people thought, the thoughts that I provoked, and what people did with those photos. So then why do the laws of Islam exist in the first place? What do you mean? If God judges you just based off your intuition, why put yourself under that religion? Why—saying that you're Muslim? Why just don't break the barrier and say I don't believe in religion. I do whatever I want to do. Is that the question you meant to ask, or like are these two different questions? Um, sort of, yeah. Okay. Well, I'm more—Well, first of all, when I was 25, I had a break—I don't know who—I don't know if anyone said they graduated from college with like a bachelor's degree, but like once you graduate—I was so depressed. Like I lost—I think when you're in college, it kind of like has a way of making you feel like that's the world, but then you—you graduate, and you're actually exposed to the real world, and I like had a break um when I was Christian. I was so dedicated. I went to Wednesday—um—after church, I went to Sunday—like Sunday church and all that stuff with my mom. I read the Bible. Um, I did research on Christianity. I even took a class in college, and after I—I graduated, it just wasn't resonating with me. I felt really lost, and I was like, I need to find something to believe in, and I—I did research, and Islam resonated with me the most. It's a religion of logic. So you convert—It's a religion of logic, but there's a contradiction in it. Wait, so you convert—there's no—Wait, hold on. Let me say this. There's no contradiction because it's wrong if I decide to take a shot right now on the stream. It can't be wrong. No, it can't be wrong if Allah dictated it. Allah can write for you to sin just for it to be a piece in the story of something halal. But that means Allah sins. That's a contradiction. No, Allah is not me. Is Allah the source—the n—is Allah's nature—the nature of good? You guys, I do not subscribe to this conversation. I'm just saying you said there's no contradiction, but as soon as you say you're a—you're a Muslim, and then as soon as you start saying "Well, what I believe isn't Islam. I am my own person." You're basically taking a Disney—Disney character approach to your own religion. No, no, I don't—but we're calling you out and saying if you're going to declare that you're ex—you know—on whatever—here—millions of people—millions of Muslims perhaps even listening—they're going to say uh in reference to what are you calling yourself Muslim? And if you don't say Islam, then I'm not sure what you're saying you are, which is what she's asking—what—or what you ask—why call yourself something that you're not willing to hold yourself to? Because you're—you're basically crafting an avatar called you and going "Well, I don't—I don't need to follow this—this is my own journey. I'm liberated." And then—but you're saying "But I'm still a part of this beautiful religion." You know, this is a contradiction. You can't have both of those things. It's not a contradiction. You could have a perfect rulebook of how you should go about living your life and do your best to strive by that perfect rulebook. It's a guideline. Like are you doing hope in some ways? Yes, absolutely. How easy would it be to take all those photos down? That's not hard. It's not hard, but it's connected to my poetry. Wait, it is—one sec. One sec. One sec. Uh, I—I do have a uh a question on this, so uh if there was like a—I don't know what the specific terminology is, but like let's say there—

Was a uh a scholar of Islam here like what are the names of the priests? Yeah, and if he was here and he was very clear with you, he was like, "Yeah, this is in contravention of the faith." Um, would you dispute him on that, or would you be like, "No, you're right"? No, absolutely not. And then so the the cure to I guess you're acknowledged—is it a sin? Is that how you would categorize haram? Um, wouldn't the cure simply be to remove the photos from your Instagram? So, but you're—well, no, no, actually, I think you're just like kind of willfully—wouldn't the proper procedure be, "Oh, I've now made a determination and an acknowledgement that this is a sin or haram"? Mhm. But what is stopping you from just—I mean, the actual physical labor of getting your phone, going on your Instagram, and then just deleting it? It seems to me like the threshold to actually just ceasing the sinning is pretty low.

I think we're having a conversation about looking Muslim and then behaving like—No, that's a behavior. A photograph of yourself is a behavior. Yeah, but if I take those down, you're saying I'll look more Muslim, but I still will have the same—That's fine. You'll have a proclivity—No, you'll have a proclivity, right, toward certain things. You'll—cuz you're calling it poetry. Honestly, I think that's a copout. Um, but even if I gave you that, right, I just gave you, okay, it's poetry. There's a way to do poetry and and and speak your thoughts and feelings into existence that's—there's so many ways that aren't—that, in fact, the more creative ways move away from that way, cuz that's the easy way. Guess what? Someone could do the same photos, who looks just like you, right, like a doppelganger. They do the same exact thing, right? Imagine that existed. How would you know the difference between the Muslim and the non-Muslim if if there was exactly your Instagram, but it was someone else doing the same exact photos? You're not supposed to, cuz you're not Allah, and you don't know what I do off of Instagram. I'm saying that if if that's poetry, is there not other ways that you can say poetry through actions that aren't that, such that you're con—more consistent with Islam? Sure. So why wouldn't you do that if it's possible? You're not that weak, right? You're—what? You're too weak to to suppress your poetry? Like, is that what it is?

I think that I have a way that I want to express myself to the world, and I'm doing that. And this conversation about contradicting myself—I'm a bit confused because I'm saying that there are perfect guidelines in Islam, and my Instagram is not Islamic—like I'm agreeing with that. So there's no contradiction. We'll come right back to it, but I'm going to let this come—donated $200. Shu, do you get consent with the trees? Is that gray, or at least non-consensual relationship? Islam lady, repent and believe the gospel w Jesus Christ. Okay, call me king. Thank you for the uh the $200 TTS. Really appreciate it. Do you want to respond? Yeah, I get consent. Mhm. The trees speak to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. I've had like trees grow towards me and stuff like that, but I'm not out here like effing trees, you know what I mean? I'm just going up—Yeah, but what about basic firewood? I mean, you don't have to f a tree to to take its goods. What? Wait, what does that mean? I mean, if you needed firewood from one of your good friends, if you know what I mean, um, could you just break off a branch? No, I'm good. It's like giving—Well, sometimes actually not a branch, but we're not going to linger on it for too long. But if—so if there was a a mufty—is that what they're called? A muy shik? Is that what sh—I don't know—sitting right here and he commanded you—I don't know—is that what—is that what he would do? He'd command—He's like, "Listen, you got to take that down." Would you do it? No. Wait, hold on a rep—not just like two white guys here. Mhm. But like an actual—He's a Christian. I don't know anything really about Islam. Okay, a representative uh someone from—Is—do they have ecclesiastical—is that a thing in—Is—I don't know. Well, I was born and raised as Muslim by the way. Oh, okay. So you might know a bit about this, but you had—you had a muy sitting here, sitting where I'm sitting. Hold on, we got to split this. Wait, okay, hold on. It's going crazy. Okay. And he said, "This is haram, this is in contravention of Islam." Mhm. You got to take it down. You wouldn't do it? No. You have to be—who—who then, at what level of somebody in the clergy or whatever it's called in Islam would have to tell you what you're doing is wrong? You have a cure, and when I say cure, you have a fix to the sin or the haram. What? Yeah. Do they have excommunication, or they just use a sword? You have to be ready to change in order for it not to happen again, and someone forcing you to do something is not going to shift a mindset. Like, I could delete my Instagram, but the reason why my Instagram looks like that—doesn't—a couple other things. We got some other things we got to pull up. We got a couple videos here. Why don't we pull it up? You could always archive—Oh, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down, scroll down. So that's your Instagram, Mike. Keep going, keep going. Uh, no, too fast, too fast. Go back up, go back up. Okay, uh, up. Oh, thank you. Okay, pause there. Uh, click on that one with the flower. Yeah. Is that a—Are you wearing a hijab? No. Is that a hijab? What? No, that's not a hijab. Oh, okay. Would that be dis—Oh, I thought it was a scarf. No, I—That's not a hijab. Uh, tab over to the video next. Control tab over. Okay, so play this. So this is you. Oh, that's a performance I just did in in the in the Islamic faith. Is uh female on female—whatever this is—is it—is it—hello? No, it's not. What then? How are you—why are you doing it? Wait, hold on. And then singing too, isn't it? No, I was doing—I don't mind the singing, but next. Okay, play—this is you twerking. Hello. Can you—Can you show this on YouTube? I'm sure it's fine. Okay, next uh this is you being served champagne in a rather—I guess that's a rapper or something. Yes. Okay, next. And then this is your outfit—booty out, cheeks out. Mhm. Um, that—myself—that looks fun as [ __ ]. I'm not—thank you. How Muslim? Yeah, are you? They're not Muslim. Are you? They showed everything. I don't believe in religion. Okay, but you grew up—I grew up—you're from Iran? Yes. And wait, okay, okay. I moved—in—what would they do to her in Iran? You totally missed the Ramadan story. Get the rocks, Abdul. Yeah, get the—get the wrong—that's why I mean there's a lot of question in my mind because I was born and raised as Muslim, and then I read Quran and I read Torah, I read Bible, I read all that, and I looked at myself and I was like, "Yeah, that's a no for me, all of it."

You see, to be fair though, you seem—correct me if I'm wrong—you still hold kind of a conservative, like reserved persona. I just don't want to label myself as such—any of them. I'm like, you have one life, you come to this world, go discover, figure this world out on your own, and have an idea about what life is. You don't have to uh submit to any other book that is available. You can read them, read them, have an idea, take what—what resonates and just drop what—what doesn't, and don't label yourself as any—you're a few human being, and you can just live. I just—I was asking because you seem to come from one extreme, and you're not at the other extreme. You're kind of in the middle as far as like reservation, humility, being more humble, reserved. Do you uh think that the sort of modern conception of liberation, especially from women, tied directly—it just seems to be the case that the most direct form of quote liberation happens to be sexual uh—do you think that's a a misstep for women? To me, it totally is, because um that's why I asked her what do you—how do you define empowerment? Because uh unfortunately what we see as—I—I call it um being rebellious towards all whatever is being set as rules—that's being rebellious, but that has nothing to do with being empowered. This is my idea. They might not be um, you know, agreeing with this, but for me it's like um the way I look at every human being—I—I—I believe that we're magic, and I—I believe we—we are—we start as a thought, an idea. You were an idea. Your parents decided to have a child, so you start as an idea, and then through a a woman's body, which is a portal of manifesting human beings, who we manifest and become physical beings from an idea to what I've become. This to me is magic. It's magical. So that magic is bigger than any kind of religion, any kind of book, any kind of law that you could just read and put yourself under and believe that is—so have come from God. Would you agree that a woman creating a life—you call it magical—um, do you think that's far more empowering than just showing your—100%? It's—to me, it's like—it's um—when—when I—when I go back to magic, I'm like, this precious magic of human body is very worthy of being treated like a magic that is—it is. And you're saying if—Gand—You've seen Lord of the Rings, right? Well, if Gandalf uses magic the whole entire movie, it wouldn't mean anything, right? So imagine swapping—Gand—Yeah, I know. Imagine swapping—swapping Gandalf's magic for—he had boobs instead, and he just showed them the entire movie. I mean, to me, is like every—all women has—have—they have boobs—like it's not the different shapes, and there's nothing uh uh—it's special and extraordinary to for showing it to say that's an empowerment. For me, I do have to let a chat come in. We have actually religious—actually religious—appreciate it. Sorry for the delay on this. I thought the alien tree lover would be the most insane on the show, then the Muslim—not Muslim/Christian—opened her mouth—word salad—nom nom nom nom nom. Yo, thank you for the uh TTS message. I do really appreciate it. Um, who is the—Wait, hold on. It's funny because I don't believe in religion, but I have my own idea. Did you say you're in the—respecting a woman being a woman and respecting myself. I—I believe as a woman you have to respect yourself first, then demand respect from men. You can't just be whatever society wants you and programming you as an um—empowered—you can—you know, submit to that and then call yourself empowered just because this is what society accepts or believes that's an empower—that's—that's not it. It was probably a bunch of dudes who sold the women on empowerment meaning be promiscuity and showing your body. They're all just behind a curtain somewhere—religion. Would you say you're in the process of discovery, or are you just completely closed off to it? You all your life—you're in process of discovery. It never ends. The process of discovery never ends. You never fully commit to one—to a religion. When I wasn't aware of what it was—of course I was—i—you—you go through all the—the—as you said—the process of uh awareness—to me is—it was some—some kind of awareness of what is it? So who—who wrote this? Why should I—with this limited life, that time that I have on earth—should believe somebody else's belief about what this earth and life is? Why? Because I tend to question everything. I question myself and question everything all the time. And you—I believe everybody has to. Okay. Um, I'm going to move things on. Um, so even if the—I don't—I can't—I'm not even the Ayatollah—the Ayatollah—whoever comes down and is like, "You got to take down those titty pics," you going to—you going to do it? I'm not ready to do it. So why would I—why would I put myself in a position to force myself to do something I'm not ready to do, just to go back and probably do it again cuz I wasn't ready in the first place? Force you to not sin in that you've acknowledged that you're actively doing—if you force someone to do anything, make any type of change, they're not going to stick to it cuz they weren't ready in the first place. It's like the hijab—all Muslim women are not wearing the hijab cuz they're not ready. You can always archive them. You can—you can always archive them. It's not that they're not ready. Some can't—some—they don't have a choice. It's just—they're so definitely not ready, but there's so many reasons—some—And you don't think you should live in any particular society that forces people to do things uh so long as they're not ready? Wait, what did you say? Are you okay with a society that allows people to do what they want uh without using force against them, so long as they're not ready to change? Absolutely not. As I also stated earlier that some sins are worse than others, and I don't think people should just be allowed to do whatever it is they want to do to whomever. Okay, I think—police—but my pictures are not hurting anyone else—pictures—No, hold on. Your—you running around—I—I would call that public indecency. You know, I would say that regardless if you weren't ready or not to stop showing your butt cheeks to the public, I would—I would say, "Well, no, I would—I would actually forcefully remove you from the street." Unfortunately—Fortunately, I think I could wear more than half of that stuff in LA to a nightclub. Yeah, I'm not saying—I'm saying that's not a good—that's not a great thing because um just because people do it right now and that's the culture, it doesn't mean like suddenly that—that it's—it's acceptable or it's a mis—it's not a misstep. It could be a misstep from—from women in general. I think it is. I think women believing that um using what they have as leverage—by the way, women's leverage is not brute force. It's—it's their bodies—it's that they're the gatekeepers of sex and procreation. That's their power. Mhm. You've been sold in a liberal society that you're to invert your power and make it for free and call that power. I'm telling you, you've been sold a lie. Well, you've been sold two lies—Islam too. So, but that's a different debate. Could you see how it could be a lie though—the the kind of sort of like go-to—just—just—just go right to sex—just—just show your body—that's the way to be empowered? I mean, I could see where you're coming from from a worldly perspective, um, but that's why I also mentioned intention—like what is my intention behind posting those pictures? Why do I feel like comfortable posting pictures? Cuz not every girl's Instagram looks like that. Not every woman is out there showing their cleavage. You know, some people feel more comfortable covered up, some people feel more comfortable showing it off. It is—it just depends on the person. But you guys showed everything but my Ramadan story, and I'm very sad about that. Oh yeah, we should put it in contrast to the app. We should—we should—it's like bad faith, you know. Yeah, that's a different spelling for fasting. It's all of me. Okay. Um, cool. Well, uh, yeah, indeed uh—wait, hold on. If you—do you have—have you ever spoken to God? Absolutely. It was just Ramadan. No, no, no, sorry, go ahead. That—Wait, what do you mean, have I ever spoken to God, like prayed? I pray. Yeah. Do you speak to—Hold on, sorry, guys, we're doing some camera stuff. Um, do I speak to Allah? Do I pray? Do I do the law? Absolutely. So if all uh God spoke to you and was like, "You need to take those Instagram posts down," would you take them down? Yes. Ah, okay. All right. But like one of the top representatives of the faith—no. But if it was direct from God, then yes. Well, this doesn't make sense because you believe in in what's written in the Quran and the hadiths, right? I do. Isn't—Isn't that dictated and and extrapolated through man? I think that those rules are meant for everyone under the faith. If Allah spoke directly to me, I would think like by the time that happens it would probably be my same sentiment. Okay, but you don't—you don't consider that the books and the traditions of Islam throughout time is God speaking through men? It absolutely is, but he's speaking to everyone. If I had a direct conversation from him, like it would be like—specialist—the specialist command—the the specialist command of your behavior. Even though—what if he said, "I already wrote this for you." Then that would also be a special—like—Yeah, but it—don't you already hold the belief—he already wrote this for you? Allah has not come down and said to my face, "I wrote this for you—this part—you need to take your Instagram pictures down." That—that hasn't been a conversation. I'm saying that because you know that's impossible. No, it's not impossible. I don't think people have told stories—people have told stories about that—how they've experienced their faith, and Jesus has said this to them and their dreams—like there's been so many different sto—I don't—Yeah, but has it ever happened to you that you feel like—Sorry, hold on, hold on, guys. Hold on, hold on to the fake Muslim. What are the five pillars of Islam? Also, do you pay your zakat? To pay zakat, you have to be um financially able to do so—to give—I think it's 10%, right? 10% of your finances. And then the five pillars of Islam—the five pill—pillars of Islam—um, it's definitely Ramadan, Salah, um, zakat is one of them. I'm missing two. Do you remember? Sorry, no, I'm missing two. Eric, thank you, Eric. Thank you for the uh the message. I do appreciate it. We have uh Inquisitor Zeal chairs one to four have said—I believe—about a hundred times—question for you all—where and when did you get the idea that what you believe is more important than civilizational, religious, or traditional standards? I never said anything about religion cuz I don't—I don't have any connection to any of that stuff, so that shouldn't have been about me. But what was the question again? Belief about beliefs—i uh basically like why did you—why do you believe that what you believe is more important than societal traditions and customs? Um, why do I—I never said I do believe that. I said this is—this is the life that I chose. This is what I—this is what I believe what life is about, and this is my point of view, and I'm speaking from my perspective—from what Allah wrote for me—for you. Yeah. Mhm. So I—my—what I have going on is not more important than anyone else's experience. Okay, we have a message here from—Oh, Ala donated $200—take the pictures down and speak your accountability. I'm speaking about it, so I'm—I'm taking my accountability. Oh, I got the joke now, cuz it's—I got it. Thanks. That—Okay, is that a no? All right, that's it. All right, uh, here we're going to get on to the uh next thing then uh let's see here, we're going to go to Sammy. Uh, Sammy, you said that you disagree—I believe this is with that Christian guy who talks about [ __ ] uh—I assume you're talking about Andrew Wilson. I don't know his name, but—Okay, it's probably Andrew. I only saw—We have—We have another representative—you're Orthodox Christian, right? Uh, so he can also um—You can also I guess direct your inquiry to him. Yeah, and I can—Andrew—I could answer as Andrew if you want. The only thing that—cuz I only saw like clips of him, and the only thing that kind of threw me through a loop was—I'm pretty sure he said that he was a a reborn virgin, even though he slept with a bunch of women, but he was a virgin now cuz he got baptized, so it didn't matter, but it didn't apply the same way to women, so I was like, that didn't make sense, so I don't know. I was just a little confused on that worldview. I thought that was odd. You know, you can be baptized—all of a sudden you're a virgin. If—so I mean, doesn't that mean if I was Christian, my o of—wouldn't matter because then I could just pray and all of a sudden I'm fine. As uh—well, if you repented, I mean, that's one thing—like the the point of Christianity uh this aspect anyway is that you confront everything you've done and you acknowledge that it's inconsistent with the faith that you're entering, and through entering the faith there's a baptism, and through baptism you're basically renewing yourself in a sense, but it doesn't mean all those things didn't—don't count—your sins don't actually just go away. They're still there um from that point—that's invalid then—that he's—Well—well, I would just say you mis—misrepresented my argument, so I mean, I think he just—I think you just kind of heard him say something, but um I don't think you're—you're uh properly phrasing what he means by that. He also been—could have been uh being hyperbolic, which—which he is a lot. That's possible. So your prime—are there other disagreements, or is that your only disagreement? No, I just—I had seen a clip about it, and I just thought it was odd. Other than that, I don't—I don't even know if he said any of that, but um it doesn't sound like Andrew. But—so he said that when he was young, he—No, he said that he like obviously had slept with women and that recently or whatever he had been baptized, whatever—repented, whatever you guys call it—and then that he was saved and didn't matter no more, and he was a reborn virgin. No, no, he would never—I mean, if he was making fun—No, no, no, that way—if he was making fun of someone who took that view, but I—I can assure you he doesn't take the view of like, you know, that's uh that you suddenly don't have the past of sin. So I mean, other than that, that was just something I thought was pretty funny. So—and you didn't take any—anything else uh that he said—like I don't know—cuz we tal—this on this show—there's a lot of women empowerment talk, liberation rights, and all this stuff—there's a lot more to pick and choose from. Yeah, I mean, the religion stuff—since that's kind of the topic they were on—I definitely didn't really tend to tune in too much. That's not kind of my thing. I don't really worry about that stuff. So—okay, uh, let's see—going to alien. You said the guy that you're seeing threatened to get his dog to attack you because he thought you were leaving the situationship when you told him that you guys need to talk. Yeah, so over Christmas or something, I was having like—there was a bunch of stuff going on. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to devel—as well, but um I had hit him up with like a message saying like, "Hey, we like need to talk," cuz I—I was scared about something. And so um I kind of ghosted him for like—like right after that, cuz like everything got too much, and I was like, "I don't really have time to like talk to you about whatever I need to talk about." Um, he lives like right next door to me, so I was like, "I'll wait," whatever. And literally like the day that I was about to like come and talk to him about whatever, he was like, "Don't [ __ ] talk to me anymore. You're a threat to my family. I'm going to get my dog on you." And I was like, "What the [ __ ]? Can I just get my stuff back?" And he like took my stuff and burned it, so it was weird. It was a weird situation, but I didn't do anything wrong. Is that when you started to move toward trees, or was that before? She's been—She's been dealing with the trees for a minute. Yeah. Uh, why trees? Um, I just think um anything is better than people. Fair, but aren't you anthropomorphizing—

The tree as a person? No, not really. I mean, how, how else could you possibly conceive of a being that you're interacting with other than referencing a person? No, you mean like if you think you're talking to a being, isn't the only reference you have for being a human? Like, the way, if you can talk to someone and communicate to someone directly, isn't it the case that everything you learned about communication is from other people?

No, I don't really think so. Is there anything else you're capable of talking to that's not a tree? Like, any object or—I mean, I talk to plants. I talk to animals. But is—can, from your view, can non-living things be beings? I mean, well, well, not non-living things, right? I don't go around talking to my books like, "Oh my god, I, I love you! Like, you need to stay here!" But like, I talk to like things that are alive, you know what I mean?

Wait, but the pages are made from trees, so—but they're not alive. Oh, oh, okay. It's a dead—it's a dead—it's dead. Yeah, okay. So you don't talk—you don't believe in talking to dead people? I mean, get my Ouija board if you want, but interesting. Uh, let's see, we have a chat here from Ben to chair one. "I didn't catch your name. It's Becky, right?" Right. Jim Bob. I think her name is definitely Becky. This is like a—Yeah, there's a lot of expected inside jokes from my audience. So yo Ben, thank you so much for the uh super chat, man. Really appreciate it. Welcome to the stream. Uh, your name is not in fact—is it? My name is Sam. Sam. Her name is Sam, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, we have a TTS coming in here for—I believe she's uh rejoining us, so that TTS is coming in right now. Thank you, Jordan. Jordan Flores donated $200. That little boy is a comedian, but not stand-up. Also to the poet Alip, predetermined you to be a 304 and a Muslim impersonator. Don't worry about all of this logic stuff. What do you want to respond here? Scoot your chair into the table. Scoot it in.

I don't know what to say except for nothing. Okay, did I miss the—Are you—You're a comed—you're a comedian? Is that underground comedian? You're an underground comedian indeed. Do you do stand-up? No. What's an underground comedian? I have—I have fans, let's put it that way. Let's put it that way. Does that mean—Wow, that was—Sorry, good job. That was great. Love it. Okay, um—All right, uh, here I'm going to get into some of the—Do I do the [ __ ] it? Let's just do the questionnaire actually. You know what? Here [ __ ] it. M1 Grand: Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. I'm going to start with you. Go ahead. A 15? Okay, so she says 10. I'm going to go—I'll come back to you. What about you? I'm not doing that. You have to—I'm not—You have to—I'm not doing it. Why not? Because I just think that's degrading. How would it be degrading? Because number—Wait, it's degrading. Hold on, hold on. What if—What if people in your comments said you're a 10? Would you eliminate those comments? 'Cause they're—I'm not rating myself. Wait, you—you let other people degrade—degrade you, then I can't stop people from degrading you, 304. What am I supposed to do? No, if someone on your account says you're a 10, right? Mhm. That would be degrading, right? It wouldn't be coming from me, but if they want to do that, I can't stop people from—from saying what they want to say. Compliment whatever. I just don't understand the connection there. It seems to be the case if you rate yourself it's degrading because you're putting a sort of value on an object, right? Mhm. But you present your body as an object. Yeah, but you present your body as an object. I mean, you think of my body as an object? No, you know the audience—you know who you're playing to. Don't play naive. When those guys look at your pictures and your ass and all that, right, they are looking at you not as a being, not as a Muslim, not as your personality; they're looking at your flesh and blood, right? And they're saying, "That object, do I want that or not," right?

I disagree with you based on my DMs. Based on your DMs? Yes, because you're talking about the people who follow me, right? Wow, you should use that—you should use that with a judge one day. You're basically putting your own thoughts on the people who follow me, but you don't know the people who follow me, and I don't know all the people who follow me, but when I receive comments—No, it's not just them objectifying my body parts. What—What do they say in your DMs? They say, "Oh, I've just—I want to learn about Islam more based on your pictures." I've actually had Islamic conversations in my—That's actually good news. That's good news for Christianity then. And also I would like to pose a question as to why the same strict expectations of a Muslim are not put on Christians, 'cause there was some people here I think who said they were Christian and they have their own—I think it's—I think it's stronger because in Christianity we have free will, and in Islam you don't. So you actually can get out of your—you have a loophole in your system, being that Allah already wrote all of your behaviors, including those behaviors. So from a Christian view, we have secondary cause, which means we have the will, right? And even God's uh foreknowledge of all things doesn't uh take away our will to act. So when we're confronted with something we do wrong that's inconsistent with our faith, we actually uh have it harder. Now, if you're referring to general Western progressive, like Protestantism, I think you—that's a good critique; I would agree with you, but not Orthodox Christianity. The same idea of who—who's a Christian, the same idea of you asking for forgiveness and hoping God forgives you is the same thing in Islam. I'm asking for forgiveness, hoping a little—Yeah, but well, first of all, God made you do it, ultimately wrote it, but—two—you can say you're not ready. A Christian can't use that cope inside of church. You couldn't confess your sins, acknowledge that they're sinful or wicked—even worse, like wicked—the knowledge of sin and still doing it and say, "I just wasn't ready." You know, that's—that's a copout. That's like—you imagine we use that for anything else in life, we just simply say, "Well, I know what I'm doing is wrong. I, as the arbiter of truth and power, say I'm not ready." No, well, how would you know you're not ready if you don't actually try to do it? You wouldn't even know you're not ready. You can't say I'm not trying 'cause you don't know if I'm trying or not. Delete one picture right now. No, see, you're not trying. The reasons I have the pictures up are not going to be eliminated by me deleting the pictures. Yeah, but that's—So I'm going to delete a picture just to post another one again 'cause I wasn't ready to do it in the first place. Okay, then you're admitting that you have a proclivity toward a certain behavior that you know is wrong. That's what I've been saying. I said that I am Muslim. I am not—I'm not Islam—like, I'm not speaking—even if I granted you that the proclivity, the internal workings that has you want to do X—Yeah, and doing X are two different things. That's actually in—in favor of my position, which is to say you could actually delete all that stuff and deal with internally the battle of your proclivity and what you're drawn to doing. You don't actually have to do it. You can still look inside and go, "Oh, I really want to do this thing." Other people do this. There are worse things that are actually illegal that we can't even talk about on the—on the panel. They actually have to deal with the internal workings of their own proclivity because they're harming other people. I'm not harming anyone. Well, that—that's up in the air. Harm—I think you going out showing—showing yourself half-naked or nearly naked in public is—I think that's a type of harm. You could put haiku in your captions. I put—what—you could put haikus in your captions for—at the very least, why don't you make it more—why don't you do the bold thing—um, and this is amazing that I'm advocating for this 'cause uh poetry is cringe to me—why don't you do the bold thing to me and try to do poetry the traditional way and try to—to gain uh value from that as opposed to calling nudity poetry.

I didn't call nudity poetry. I said it was a part of my poetry. A part—you guys didn't even play my poetry, so what was the other part? The poems? Oh, the poems. Oh, all the—the titty pics come with poems. Yeah. Oh, I didn't—I didn't—I didn't see the audience on Spotify and Apple Music if you guys want to listen to it. I didn't see the—Here, let's uh let's get back to it. So okay, um, the question was: Ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. Uh, you said 15, so 10. Uh, what about you? Um, I'd say an eight. There's a couple things I'd critique, but I think I'm pretty cool. So okay, eight. I see myself 10 out of 10. Who cares? 10 out of 10. Eight. Eight. Considering my uh gender ambiguity, I'd say at least a solid six. Okay, that was a good one. Wait, sorry, repeat that. At least what? I'm at least a solid six. I feel like that's safe. Solid six. Okay, because of the ambiguity, go either way, you know. Okay, my pictures later should be interesting when we do the—the gender swap. Have you considered—Would you date yourself? Have you considered poetry? Just look the same, maybe slam poetry. I feel like that would be pretty exciting. Uh, okay, Felicity, what about you? Five. Five. Five. I disagree. I give myself a five. I feel like—Damn, bro, you guys—Oh, the girls are thrown off my five, though. What the [ __ ]? You devalued our five? No, you—you—I devalued your five? Yeah, I should be lower. I diluted over here a little dilution. Sorry, six. I'll take a six. Take a six. Listen, take a six. Six. Six. I can't claiming five if I got, you know—Well, well, no, you can take a lower though. You can go lower. I have to go lower. I don't know. I can't. I'm keeping my five. I'm happy with five. Um, okay, wait, so hold on, let's explore this a little bit. We have a 10 and a 10 and—well, she escaped for the time being. I think we're all tens. We're magic beings. Wow. Okay. Literally everywhere are—are all men—all men are tens? Uh-oh. No, they're not. But are—are all—here are—are all women tens? It's not about men and women to me. Hold on, I'm a little confused because you said we're all tens. As a human being, we're all—That's what I'm talking about. Physically? Yeah, I'm talking about looks, though. Ask everyone to rate their own looks, all caps. It's very uh—it—it's very personal. It totally depends on your taste and what you're looking—and what you see—the taste of beauty in different people is different. Well, so then you would acknowledge that not everybody's a 10, then? Look-wise? Yeah, looks-wise. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because I—So are you a 10, but you're still a 10, like you're—you're self—so are you a lesbian or no? Okay, I don't know. That doesn't really make sense. Um, so you're a 10? Okay, I see myself as a 10. Uh, 10 out of 10, being that I'm trying—No, but I'm talking about looks, so just—just to be clear, and this could be your answer—uh, on a scale of 1 to 10, when it comes to looks, you consider looks to be 10 out of 10? It's seven, if I want to be super honest. I would be seven out of 10, ideally. Honesty is pretty good. Um, okay, so not 10, now seven. You get a little push back. Not a 10 anymore. It's not a push back. It's—It's about this table sees beauty and taste as whatever the media or the society pursues as beauty. I'm going to go with that, um, and I'm gonna go, "Yeah, I'm seven." Okay. All right, Alien, what's up? What? 10. 10. I guess so, if you want to cap me at that, but I think I'm higher than that for sure. You go beyond the scale? Why is 15—that seems very limiting? It's beyond the scale. The last time I—Okay, 'cause the last time that I came, I called myself a 12, and the way that everyone was trying to beat me down, it makes me feel like you're trying too hard, so I must be bigger than that, so I'm at 15, but genuinely I think that's higher than that for sure. I genuinely like the way I look, so I'm happy for you. That's—I miss—why you call yourself Alien, though? What do you think you're an alien? Cute name. Okay, 'cause there are people who think they're actual aliens. I just wanted to—It's like—Have you ever heard like people call their—el Bug? Yeah, like I think that's such a cute name. I don't know why. It's simple, but it's cute. Bug self? Yeah, that's me, basically. All right, I'm going to do a couple quick shout-outs. Uh, guys, if you want 100% of your contribution to go towards the show, uh, you can do so via Venmo and Cash App. 100% of your contribution goes towards us. YouTube takes 30%, Streamlabs takes like 3 to 4%. Uh, Thomas, thank for the uh $10 or $7 on Cash App. Colin, thank for the 10 on Cash App. Appreciate it, guys. You guys are legends. Thank you. Thank you. That's Venmo/cashapp whatever. Pod. Also, guys, if you're enjoying the stream, like the video. Please also go to twitch.tv/w whatever. Drop us a uh follow in the prime tub over there on twitch.tv/whatever. Also, Reed is 100, TTS is 200. That's uh streamlabs.com/w whatever. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it. Okay, ask everyone to rate their own looks on a scale of 1 to 10. You can't pick seven. Bringing it back to you. Uh, you don't want to answer the question or—Yeah, I'm not answering it. I already said I think it's degrading. Why—why would it be degrading? 'Cause I don't want to subject myself—subjectify myself to a number. Okay, sure. Um, would you date a guy who's uh shorter than you? I have—I—I understand you have—is it your preference? I mean, I'm a bisexual, so if you stimulate me mentally, then it really doesn't matter your height. Okay, so let's assume you have two men of the equivalent IQ, and they stimulate you uh equally. One of them is 6'1", the other is 5'1", but they're otherwise exactly the same. Exactly the same, like facially and everything. Facially, penally—is it a word? Penally? Um, I don't know. I made it up. Just checking. Just made it up. Do you take the six-foot-one guy or the five-foot-one guy? That's not a fair question. Thank you. Like, what is happening right now? I feel like [ __ ]—not be a fair question. No, it's not, because—Explain how it's not fair. Cannot be the same. There's two different spirits inside—Sure, sure, if you—Let me ask you a question. Uh, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning? What—what—Yeah, how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning? Hungry. Okay, cool. So it's a hypothetical question. I'm asking her to engage in a hypothetical, so yes, I agree there's not—engage in a hypothetical, but um, yeah, it's a hypothetical, so I'm just trying to uh I guess probe the worldview—probe the—Yeah, okay. Um, I mean, what—what are the chances of two men—Yeah, I know it's a hypothetical. It's not literal. Yes, I agree. I agree with you that like everybody's a unique snowflake, but like in this hypothetical scenario, granting that these two men are—I don't know [ __ ]—they're identical twins, and—but what—somehow one of them got their—their height stunted. Okay, but they're otherwise exactly the same. Everything's the same. What Brian is saying is that the preference itself is this sort of objectification that—that we can't avoid—that there's going to be some features about people that we're attracted to, and we're going to be biased toward them, and in a sense even before knowing them we're going to make a judgment about them as an object in space, really. If—if you're—and there's nothing wrong with it. It's just, you know, if you continue to treat them like they're just an object, I would say yes, your—your contention of objectifying people is wrong, but putting a rating on—on your preference, you know, aesthetically, I—that's like—I imagine you did that with art, like if you could rate art like 1 to 10, like would it be like degrading to the work itself to—So I think that's like a 10. That's like a—I think what's interesting about my answers is at least I'm consistent on the fact that I don't judge a book by its cover. I don't like doing that. I don't like looking at something and being like, "This is what it is 'cause this is what it looks like." I don't believe you, though. I just don't believe you. That's fine if you don't believe it, but this is my reality. This is my life. Like, I'm speaking about my life. You told me to be raw, be true. This is what—this is what I go through. But I guess I just—when you—when people say, "Oh, I don't judge a book by its cover," I just don't believe people when they say that. I don't—I've—I've dated a fat guy. I've dated a guy who's shorter than me. I've—I've—we—society would not think those things are attractive. I don't think it's really a—like a rebuttal to the question of, okay, do you have a preference for tall men, and you say, "Well, I have dated a short man." Uh, I—I don't really think that that's evidence that you have a preference or a lack of a preference towards tall men. I don't have a preference at all. Like, when people ask me like, "What's your type?" Have you ever—Do you have—no—You have no preferences? No. When people ask me what's my type, it's more about personality. You want to get down to personality and intellectual—you don't have, like, for example, racial preference? No, I don't. Okay, your husband, what was he? White? Black? Egyptian? Egyptian. Okay. Uh, your current boyfriend, he is mixed? Mixed, black and white? Or—Yeah. Tiffany's dying to jump in on this one. I feel like uh—Okay, so you don't have any preferences? No. I've dated a white guy. I've been interested in Asian men. So you—you date a dwarf if he stimulated me mentally? I might. Yeah, if he stimulates you mentally. Okay, yeah. If he's interesting enough to talk to? No, but—okay, again, let's say you have two options. One guy stimulates you—his stimulation mentally is a 10 out of 10, but he's a dwarf. And then you have a guy—you know what, we'll change it—he stimulates you nine out of 10, but he's six foot one. Okay, do you pick the dwarf—the—the four foot 10—4 foot 9 or the six-foot-one guy? But they both stimulate me a nine out of 10? No, no, no. The dwarf actually stimulates you more by one point. He's a 10 out of 10. Okay, but the 6'1" guy, he's a nine out of 10 in terms of mental stimulation. I'm going to be more drawn to the dwarf. Dwarf. Yes, because we're having better conversations. Like, we're having better conversations. I can bond with the dwarf. Like, he's on the Five Gum [ __ ]—what—how it feels to chew Five Gum. Stimulate your senses. That was our first joke. I'm trying—I'm nervous for the comedian. Trying to give the comedian—I'm glad you're trying. I'm trying, my friend. You're trying. Um, would you be willing—what do you rate Donald Trump on a scale of 1 to 10? What? He's funny. I'll give him that. Did you vote for Trump? Are you MAGA? I did not vote for Trump. You vote—Are you Kamala voter or—I didn't vote at all. Kanye? You voted for—Tiffany voted for—Oh, you didn't run. Oh, you wrote him in. I would have voted—You wrote him in, though, right? No, on the—the write-in portion. Okay, I'm sorry. All right, she's—She's a diehard Trump supporter? Not really. Not really. Oh, the tariffs are getting—are getting you—Um, okay. I also don't—I—I just wanted to point out that you said you don't have preferences. It's actually the—the case that you prefer people who stimulate you, you know, intellectually. You prefer—so you do have a preference. You're just saying you don't have a physical preference—preference. Um, and so you would go with the Tyrion Lannister if he was—Who is that? He's like the—the dwarf in Lord of the Rings. Like, you would go with him if it was a 10 out of 10 intellectual conversation versus like a protector, for instance, who only can stimulate you intellectually nine out of 10. You'd go with Tyrion Lannister. I don't even know who that is. It's a dwarf from Lord of the Rings. But if—but if in a situation where I'm having conversations with someone and—yeah, so prot—so protection and—and the future—like the future—the pragmatic future of this relationship working—you don't put your current preferences uh as something you're going to judge the future with. Like, for instance, don't you want a man who's uh—who um can protect you? Yeah, but you don't prefer that over Tyrion Lannister who's telling you—like having good talks with you. Sounds like it—almost sounds like the thing you—you preference is actually mostly what women refer to as like the friend-zone guy, who's like you can be friends with and they intellectually stimulate you, but they don't have the other aspect that you really need for a—for a sustainable relationship—provider—protector—all of those things matter too. Well, they can't matter as much if you would take—I can't look at someone and be like, "You can provide for me," or you can—you can look at someone and say, "You could probably protect me or not," though. You can do that. Yeah, yeah. So Tyrion can't—you judge a book by its cover. You did—nicely done. Was from Game of Thrones you said? Um—Yeah, but—but you said Lord of the Rings. Oh, sorry. I did—I did. Yeah. No, I'm going to get it for that. Yeah, 'cause this question—how delusional women are. Stop falling for the bait. You are making us look stupid. You dig yourself in a hole and make women look stubborn and unreasonable. Wait, what? Huh? Purpose of the question is to show men how delusional we are. Oh, the purpose of the—I guess the—your looks on a scale of 1 to 10. Christine, thank you so much for the message. W female viewers. I think is Christine—is that a—that's a female name? Was that—that was a critique—questioner, right? No, I think it's a critique of the failure to respond to the question. Okay. Yeah, why did we actually take the question and why did we answer that? She's saying you shouldn't have fallen for the bait—fallen for the bait of rating yourself—for the sake of argument or just as a question that—No, I think she—her—I think she's criticizing the refusal to respond. Okay, okay. Right. I'm not sure. I believe she has to send another one. You got to send another one. But what were you saying? Oh, when we're talking about whether or not you can just tell if it—if somebody can protect you or not and that's judging a book by its cover, like right away. I mean, you brought up looking at someone—Tyrion Lannister being able to say whether this person could beat someone up for me. Yeah, well, no, but I was talking about judging a book by its cover in the sense of me liking someone. I'm not going to look at someone and be like, "Oh, you're 6'1", I'm gonna like you," because—in general—Well, that's why I brought it in because when we're talking about seeking partners, there's a lot more than looks, right? But looks are included. It's not like it's not important. You know, if—if you're attracted—that would be looks right off the bat, but then you dig deeper. I'm just saying that one of the things you would have to expand your preferences to be realistic because if you valued being

Protected? You would have to then make a preference on how someone looked. When I'm picking a partner, I don't—it's not top five. Well, all picks your partner. Can you protect me? Can you protect community? Oh, what? Okay, what? Um, on the scale of value of a partner, how high is protecting you? A five. A five. That's objectifying men. How? Cuz you're looking at a man saying, "Oh, sorry, sorry." Can—can you look at a man and, on the scale of whether or not they could protect you or not, give an accurate um—it's not on the list. On a scale, it's not on top of the top five. I know, but—no, but could you look at a—a man and give—give them a one out of 10 rating on how well they could protect you?

From your view, there's a lot of men who are tall and buff who can't beat up anyone, and there's a lot of men who are short and not—and can beat the [ __ ] out of someone. So, too. Yeah, yeah. I don't—I don't know. I think it's more about the energy of the person and how—you know, I'm scared of dwarfs, so I'm actually—Yeah, yeah. So my argument is actually toast because uh, I'm more likely to run from a dwarf. They're shifting. Are you actually like serious? Yeah, I'm a little bit intimidated by—if a dwarf was running at you? Yeah, yeah, seriously. That might be an interesting situation. Then they get in the trench coat, you know what I'm saying? Mhm. So we see more effort playing. Where are we? Um, trying to get—trying to give a rating from her. Yeah, yeah. Can you just give a rating? I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Okay, okay. Rate me how well you think I could protect you. I'm not going to do it. Come on, it's just obvious. Okay, is—don't make my—is it that rating a being? It's—it's that—it's a being that makes it wrong. Yeah, I'm like—I'm not going to rate a human person.

What about rating their creations? I hate that, cuz an artist as a poet, I wouldn't want to insult someone. Are you really a poet? I am. It's on—all the research you did, you showed a video of me performing and you thought I was singing. I wasn't singing. Are you a poet? Like she's a comedian, underground? No, I'm not underground. It's on Apple. You could literally Google—if you Google me, you don't know. All right, it says musical artist when you Google me. Okay, you crazy—crazy people there—uh, not you guys. Um, okay, you don't want to rate yourself. Will you rate Jim Bob? No. Will you rate me? No. Objectify me. Can—what if we give you consent to objectify us? No. Or degrade—degrade us? What the [ __ ]? I'm not even interested. Are you—are you okay with that? If she—sure, if we can get a rating system out of her. Okay, well, we're going to do this—seven though, right? Yeah. I thought you were 10. Wait, can you tell me a guy who you think is a 10 in looks? What, honestly, I don't know. I don't really—I don't really look at guys like that, you know what I mean? Like, I'm—tread a tree. Yeah, rate a tree. Redwood. Redwood. Where do you put redwoods? Cedar trees. You [ __ ] with cedar trees. I'm not reading. Are you more of a eucalyptus? What the [ __ ]? Are you more invested than living trees? If you see a tree that's kind of dying, will you just kind of be like, "Eh, it's not worth my time." I think anything that's dying is cool. Wait, what the [ __ ]? What? Can—oh, but I—I thought the difference between paper and the tree was because trees are alive and paper's dead. I mean, but I just have like interest, right? So I just like—I have like wet specimens and stuff like that, so I just like tree morbid stuff. And have you seen um, the Tree of Life episode from Dragon Ball Z? Or wait, is that what it's called? No, I don't watch anime. Tree? Can we specify something? And I'm sorry if we already specified. Tree of might—excuse me, hold on. Tree—the Tree of Might. Did you see that? I don't watch anime. Sounds like it's worth it. What was the—the bad guy from Tree of Might? Turles was that his name? Tur—who was the bad guy? Cuz you said that's from like Dragon Ball. Anyway, sorry, go ahead. Sorry, I'm autistic. It was Turles. Turles is the bad guy from Tree of Might, Dragon Ball Z. Can we specify? I'm sorry if you already did, but is there a sexual attraction to trees or do you just bond with them? No, I have a sexual attraction to men, but it's just—I don't really like that many guys in general. Does it have to be that long? I thought it's going to just be a—what do you think about like the—like if you look into the monitor here, you see all the—the palm trees and [ __ ] like—yeah, they're gorgeous. Would you smash a palm tree? No, I wouldn't smash your tree. That's bad for like your PH—P—pH—pH balance or whatever. You know what I mean? So that's crazy, but like, I guess if you're asking me about a man, if I have to just throw someone out there, Adam Driver. I like Roger Waters. Like, I don't know. I like old ass men. I have to—I have to ask you—the way you present yourself, does that attract the kind of men that you—oh, I don't really care. No, I'm asking if it does, not if you care. Do—does it? I don't care. I—I get whoever I want at this point, so I—I don't really think about it. I have a question, too. So if there's male and female trees, can they like reproduce? Is there a purpose? What do you mean to the different genders? Cuz trees have different genders, right? Yeah, but I know like for the most part, the ones that you're seeing outside are males. Is there a way to tell? No, I just know it for a fact though. So you support the male—uh, tree patriarchy? What? No. What do you mean? Should we allow male tree patriarchy? I mean, no. I think that we definitely should have like female trees like around, but—but the thing is is that there's not a lot of female trees around because if it's giving out whatever—it's basically about the fruiting bodies, and the government really doesn't—should we intervene though and make equality for trees? I'm sorry, should we intervene as humans and equalize? So half male, half female trees? Half male? Is that what you want? How do we know? I never said that, but I'm pretty sure that that's possible. I'm almost 100% sure that that's possible because trees can like lend um, like their own power to other trees, especially if they're dying and stuff, and they can kind of morph, so it's kind of cool. Excuse me, what the [ __ ]? All right, I just really like plants, yo.

Super Saiyan, thank you for the gifted subs. Maybe it was because of the Tree of Might reference. Thank you, man. Appreciate the gifted sub. Uh, you know—uh, oh, going around the table, do you guys think—do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time? Better looking? No, I don't think that's how aging works. Okay. Do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time? Yeah, cuz I take really good care of my skin, my body and everything, so—and I just been advancing, so it's whatever. Wait, how—sorry, but I'm ju—not to be blunt, but how is all of the holes in your face taking care of your skin? I mean, do they look—rejected? Well, no, it looks like an act against the skin on your face though. That I'm still taking care of my skin. My skin is clear. I don't know—not in those spots. I would say no. It's still clear. No, I would say everywhere where you have skin, you have good—you have clear skin, but where the things are—what do you call those things, by the way? They're piercings. Piercings. Th—that—that part of your skin is not—that's not good for your skin, that part, right? I mean, tell me how it's not good for my skin. Well, I mean, anything that tears away at the fabric of your skin, we would say isn't good for your skin, right? It doesn't matter like you're get—if you go to a—if you go to a hospital right now, they're going to put a needle on you, right? So it doesn't really [ __ ] matter. I don't want them to do that, but I mean—but they're going to regardless. If you get in a car crash or whatever, they're still going to put IV in you, right? Well, yeah, if you need to live, but that's—yeah, those are—those are still needles. You're still disrupting—you wouldn't want them if you could. Yeah, but if you could avoid the tearing of your skin, every medical um, uh, advancement pushes away from—I mean, it's going to happen like—it could happen to you regardless, like whether your skin is like—whether you're going out here living your life tomorrow, you can be in a car crash and next thing you know, like your whole [ __ ] [ __ ] is like gone. That's true. So it doesn't really matter to put all of this like—wait, it doesn't matter how you present your face? It doesn't matter how like—how you treat your skin like 100%, like—that—like I take care of my skin, obviously, right? I don't have like bad acne. Um, I don't have like pockets—like I don't know how to like express it, but I take care of myself still. So—not you, and it's evident. So, hey, can—can you stop? There's a pen twitch. My apologies. Did you still have your—I wasn't paying attention. Oh, I thought it was a pen. I thought you were—you were—I wasn't paying attention. All right, uh, 20 years' time—uh, better looking at 46? You're 26, probably. Yeah. 30 years' time? 56. Yeah, I take care of myself. Uh, 40 years' time? 66. Okay. Uh, you're 29. Better looking in 10 years' time at 39? Into the mic. I don't know. Well, yeah, I'm asking you what you think though. I—I don't know. Yeah, I understand you might not know, but what do you think? I don't know. That's my thoughts. Okay, I understand, but what if you had a guess? I don't know. That's cool. Let's say there was a bullet to your—or a gun to your head. There's a gun to your head, and they're like—you get to surv—you have to answer the question, but if you don't, we're pulling the trigger. But that's the answer to the question. I—I just—to be clear, you'd rather like end your life than just answer the question, even if it's a guess? Why am I—why do I get all the hypothet—well, okay, here, let me—fine, I'll ask some clarifying—10 years ago, I looked worse than I do now, so I—I don't know. Okay, cool. Well, given the trend of you looking better now versus 10 years ago, is that trend going to continue? Who wants to say it? Cool. Let me ask you a question. Um, do you—are—in terms of physical appearance, do you find people who are like 100 years old, are they typically—uh, better looking than—I don't know if you've seen like old—like photos of somebody when they're 100 versus when they were like 20 or 30 or something, are they typically better when they're 20 or 30 or when they're 100? Um, of course they have change in appearance. Yeah. What are those changes? I mean, to society, they'd say negatively—negatively changed. They've aged, but you said 10 years. There are people who look amazing at 35, 40, like—but—but I'm not asking you if you'll still be good-looking in 10 years. That's not the question. I'm not asking you if you'll still be attractive. I'm simply asking—you're currently 29. At 39, in 10 years' time, will you be more attractive, just as attractive, or less attractive? There are people currently now who look better at 39 than they did at 29, and there are people who look worse, though. You're saying better? No, but I'm asking you about you. Gravity. I don't know. Okay, like if—if uh, let's say uh, you had $100,000—uh-huh—and here are the two betting options: one is ex-person going to look better at the age of 30 or 100, and you're a betting person, like you might say, well, it's possible for somebody to be better looking at 100 than they are at 30. I mean, maybe that might not even be your position. Uh, if you had to put your money on better looking at 30 versus better looking at 100, which one do you pick? If we're gonna have a debate, let's make sure the ages stay the same. So when you first asked me, you said 10 years' time. If you said 100, I would have said, "Oh, I'm most likely going to look worse than I do now at 100 years old." I'm just trying to make a—see if you can come to a delineation when it comes to like—yes, people tend to look worse as they age, generally speaking. Generally speaking, yes, but you didn't ask me generally. You—let me ask—let me ask it in a different way then, maybe she'll answer it. If—if it's—if it's possible for you to look worse than you do now or better, and you have command over it, what—what will you choose to—to do if you could act on it? I would want—I would like to look better than I do. Okay, so if you would like to look better than you do, and you—you commit—you thought, well, I'm going to commit to doing it, do you think you will look better if you thought you're going to commit to it? Do you think right now you will look better given that you just said you want to—if you've acted on that want, are you saying that you will look better in 10 years? I don't know. All right, here—how about this—let's do 20 years' time. So you're 29, better looking at 49 than now at 29? 49, almost 50. Yeah, I think there does become a stopping age where it's just like, regardless of what you do, so I don't know. Okay, here's another way of asking it: how long do you think you'll keep posting the types of pictures that you do on the internet? Will—will you—do you think you'll be posting those pictures in 10 years? There's something for everyone, so I don't know. So I don't know. Yeah. Okay, so how about 30 years' time? Better looking at 59 than now at 29? Like I said, there is a stopping point where, regardless of what you do, naturally gravity will take its course, so yeah. Do you want to just answer the question though? I don't know, like that's my answer. I'm just—to be clear, you genuinely don't know. Most likely—hold on—generally speaking, you don't—hold on—you don't know if in 30 years' time, at 59, one year away from 60, you don't know if you're going to be worse looking, better looking, or the same as you do now. Listen, I won't look the same, that's for sure. I'll look different. What are the differences that are going to occur? I don't know. No, but like—okay, what have you noticed when you look at somebody who's older? Like I said, I look better than I did 10 years ago. Do you have a—do you have a famous—do you have a famous actor that you like? No. Hi, Barry. Johnny Depp. Beautiful. Brad—Holly—Bry's be—I'm aware. Holly Berry, she's from Ohio, too. That's great. Um, so have you ever—you and you're 29, right? So maybe you've been watching like movies and TV shows for like over two decades, probably. Uh, you've probably seen some of your favorite actors age. Typically, are these actors like 20, 30 years down the line, are they better looking? Ashanti looks [ __ ] amazing. I just want to say that, and I'm pretty sure she's pushing 45. I thought you'd said Aaliyah. I was like, she's dead. Um, do you think Mad McDonald looks good? She's had surgery, so we don't know how she would have naturally looked. She—lady—she does. I feel like she does look better than before. She does. Yeah, she looks like—I don't know what she did, but man, she—she looks like 30 years—who—young? Madonna. She just said Madonna looks good right now. I mean, see how you could just not know what's going to take place. You just don't know. Definitely doesn't look good. I feel like you do kind of know, cuz it's like with old people, you talk about them like they're a jalapy—like you—there's nothing you can do. You know what I'm saying? I think at an age—a certain age, there is like a stopping point, but he's saying 10 years from now—he's—that's the question. 10 years from now is moving around. Yeah. So 100—red years—absolutely. I don't think I—all right. And then final—final thing for you—you're 29. If we go back 10 years—uh, better looking at 19 versus now at 29? I looked worse. So you're better looking now. What—what were some of the changes that occurred? Because you know how you look now, you know how you looked at 19, so perhaps we can get some definitives on that. Um, I didn't take good care of my body. I was extremely skinny. My hair was a lot shorter. My skin—I had a whole bunch of acne. And say you gained weight. Yeah. And in my cultural beliefs, that's a good thing, so just want to put that out there. How skinny were you? I was 116. And how tall are you? I'm 5'5". You're—wait, what? One—you said 160 or 116? And she's 5'5". You're 116 now? No, no, no. I was 116 before. Yeah. Tiffany, don't you have something on—like I saw you post something recently about—yeah, what is it? I would consider that a glow down, just personally. A what? A glow down. Cuz you gained weight. Glow down—depends on the word for the proportions. Wait, but no—Tiffany, didn't you say—what did you say about like you wanting to be thinner? Or can you explain that? Um, yeah, my goal is to lose weight. You don't want to have an ass or boobs, so you want to glow down. You don't want to glow—that's a glow up for me would be—foretting her skin. How's it different? I'm just saying from my perspective, I consider that a glow down, and for mine, if you—you know, got to your goal, it'd be glow down. Okay, wait. From—you're saying from your perspective, if she got skinnier, she would—it would be a glow down? Glow down. Okay. You want to see thick—thick Tiffany is what you're saying. I think she just wants to see her—and I also think—I'd also add that she is—yeah, right. Like, I don't think she really need—I mean, like she said she likes you, then, so what? I think she's fine as she is, you know. So she lost more weight. You're saying she would be less attractive? I think it would negate from how she is now. Yes. And I'd also add—am I not entitled to my own beauty standards? Like, why are you trying to shame me? You were just doing that to her. Well, you did kind of just shame me. Well, I was just sharing my opinion, and I was sharing mine. You were just doing—yeah, because you were offended by what I said. I wasn't offended. It wasn't—you didn't say it to me. No, you said that—you said you said you considered that as a glow down. Yeah, and then you got offended by what I said about her, and then I was saying the same thing you said to her, so this is why women shouldn't vote. Wait, Tiffany, are you—obviously got offended. That's—no, that's—look, let me just say this: some women do look better skinnier, and some women do look better thicker. I happen to look better thicker. If you—if you like to know, the standard for men is essentially—um, this is why age does matter, is that when we ask—you know, when we're asking about looks from a male perspective, deep down inside, we're actually looking at like fertility, like—uh, can you provide us children? So I do agree that health is—is considered for sure in that—but looks are too, and so is age, so it's all sort of like bundled together. Yeah, and—um, I don't know if you can give like an exact thing of like—that's the pinnacle of a beauty and health. There's probably some standard, but when you—when you ask men what we're really looking for is your—your ability to give us children, and the—the reason this question is asked so much is because a lot of the cultural aspects we talk about with women's behavior—pornography, liberation—all these things—when women sort of like dedicate their lives to like 10, 15 years of liberation, they actually waste the—the time where you're actually the 10 for the men. Does that make sense? That's when we're actually looking to find you and settle down with you and have kids, but you kind of miss that window, and a lot of women are missing that window—um, for really bad reasons. To your boomer standards. Boomer. Yeah. To my boomer. Tiffany, do you want to respond to—Tiffany, I think you need to respond to Sammy here—to her. There's a little—do you think—what do you want to say anything to Sammy? She was saying that you're too thin. I—that is not—I mean, all I was saying is that she seems to get really offended. She said you were too thin. No, she didn't. I didn't say that. She said you—you said fine if she put on a bit of weight, it would be a glow down. I was matching the energy. She just—no, it would be a glow up. Wait, hold on. Yeah, no, she said if she loses weight, that it's a glow down—as a glow up for her. That's what she said. They're saying there's no such thing as a glow up and a—are you calling Tiffany fat? What? Did you call her fat? She called herself fat. So she called herself fat cuz she wants to lose the weight a bit. I didn't say nothing about that. No, no, no. I think I'm pretty skinny, but I just want to be skinnier. She wants to be skinnier. Why you want—what's wrong if Tiffany wants to be a little skinnier? Huh? She can—like I said—you just said that I call myself fat, but I never did. I literally don't care, bro. I was just doing the same thing that you did. You going to let her call her bro? You going to let her call you—is she your bro? Bro. Wait, I have a question. How would you know the threshold of when it's a glow down for her? How would she—with her—that was my—that's a good question. Yeah, but I just want to know how would you—in a standpoint, because that was how I felt. I—because I—you were mirroring her. How would you know it's a glow up or glow down for her? Um, based on her BMI, I guess, with a decent area if you—okay, if you lose—go below 16.5, I would consider that a blow down. Okay, but I think 116 for 5'5" is like about average or maybe slightly below average, like weight-wise, like underweight. Yeah, it's underweight, right? That's like slightly underweight for 5'5". I think like ideally skinny Tiffany. What would be for Sammy? Huh? What would be a glow up for Sammy? Are you even okay with that question? I couldn't care less. I think I'm just fine how I am in terms of weight. Like, what do you think is a glow up for Sammy? Like in terms of how like much weight she should lose or what? Well, I don't know her weight, so I don't know. I mean, just like eyeballing it, I guess. What's her BMI? Are you like studying nutrition? Yeah, right. I'm into that kind of stuff. But okay, you can tell me then, cuz I'm 410 and weigh 93. I mean, honestly, that's a bit heavy, to be honest. Oh my god, are you dead ass? No, he's not. He's sarcastic. He's not—you should probably join Weight Watchers, actually. My underweight limit is if I hit under 75, that's bad. Okay, I can get on board. I can get on board with that. Yeah. So I'm fine, honestly. I'm in the middle. Wait, I just feel like you should—four—you're 410. Not offensive, but isn't that—legally—it's legally a dwarf, but I don't—I was going to—thank you for saying that. Disorder though. I'm just that short. That's so cute. When I saw her, I—

Was like, "That's Brian's type, what he always talks about loving—dwarves." Five, um, as far as glow-ups, you guys were just talking about health and weight, but um, how do you, how do you ladies distinguish between glow-up and glow-down when it comes to like altering your face and and your body generally?

I feel like it just depends on how that person feels about themselves, to be honest. So you, you know that like cat lady who mangled her face and she just looks like some sort of crazy cat—is that a glow-up?

I know who you're talking about. Is that a glow-up? I mean, yeah, I mean, she's happy with the way that she looks, you know what I mean? How do you know? Because she said it herself. That's a war. How do you even? How do you even define? How do you even define a glow-up? Is it how you feel about?

Real quick, I'm going to let this come through cuz it's—I apologize—$200 for the delay on this. I do not approach immoralities, what is apparent of them and what is concealed. Indeed, Allah does not like immoral behavior. Sorrow, Alan 6 to 151. Yeah, are we still like, are we going back to the religious topic every time? Every time, every time. I think that that's what just happened. Allah, thank you for the inshah. You impersonating Allah is also immoral. So inshah means like, god willing. Oh, say, but I said I didn't say inshah. How do you say thank you in in fari? Yeah, I guess like, because Islam has nothing to do with Persians and Persia and any of that, they're two different things. Okay, all right. We're talking about Islam or Varsity. Okay.

You're 47, better looking in 10 years' time at 57? Well, I mean, I don't think so. Gravity does its thing, and we're physical beings, so okay, so won't be better looking, probably not. You're 47. Let's go back in time. Let's go back 10 years. 37 versus uh 47. Were you better looking at 37? Uh, yes. Okay. Uh, let's do another 10 years. Uh, 20 years. 27 versus 47. Better looking at 27? Um, I think I look better now. Better now. Yeah, because that, that time I was in a uh, my first marriage and I was unhappy, and the energy was dull and unhappy and sad, and it just shows through, I guess. But okay, um, that's why I consider myself. How about this? 18 versus 47, better looking 18? Okay, yes. All right, Tiffany, you're 19, better looking in 10 years' time at 29? Yes. 20 years' time, 39? Yes. 30 years' time, uh 49? No. Okay, so your, when's your, when's your peak? Um, depends on when I get my nose job and lose the weight. You get one of those white people noses? No, something that would suit my face. Is there like a menu? Fine, Tiffany, are there menus for noses? Is that how it works? Like when you go in for noses? Kind of. There's like different types of noses. There different types of nose shops. Like there's ethnic nose jobs and there's like Barbie doll nose jobs. Do you have the? Are you going to get the eyelid surgery? What would you change about your nose? Never mind. Mhm. I just honestly, I think it like, you don't need a nose job. I think it looks good. Yeah, your nose is fine. Stop tripping, bro. It fits your face right. I dare you to get a giant big honker. It's not like as symmetrical as I would like it to be. It's not as symmetrical as I would like it to be. There's no way it's going to be symmetric. I don't like how it's so like, kind of low here, and I kind of have a tiny bump. You can't really tell, but I can feel it. Whatever. I'm looking at your nose in the. It looks fine. You know what it looks like? It looks like you already had a nose job. It kind of does. Yeah, I don't think you should get one. You should just tell people you got one. See what happens. Just test. T test test it. Problem solved. See if people go. They would. They would think I went to a cheap doctor. A what? A cheaper doctor? Oh, I don't think so. I feel like the difference between a glow-up and a glow-down is the results, and that's about it. What would a glow-up for you, if you go to it? I guess not look like a little boy. Well, yeah, that was, that was pretty harsh. That was hard. I mean, you don't look like the typical, you know, you have to own up to that, right? You know, so I mean, if you're going to go out in public, dress like Milhouse, you're going to get some push back, right? Whatever. I'm just saying. I'm not going to go on a plane. So you're 30, better looking in. You're 30, better looking in 10 years' time at 40? Oh, me? I feel like people tend to fill out with age, but I feel like right now it's probably my peak. I think this is it. Okay, and then going back 10 years at uh, 20 versus 30, better looking now or at 20? I think now. I feel like I look better now. Okay, and then uh, well, Felicity, if we've done this whole bunch. All right, so uh, I have to wait until she's back to do this segment, so I'll just wait a little moment. Do a couple shout-outs, guys. Read 100 TTS, 200, uh, like the video, please, and also Venmo, Cash App, whatever. Pod 100% of your contribution go towards us. YouTube takes 30%, Streamlabs takes 3 to 4%, Venmo, Cash App, we get 100% of your contribution if you want to be a patron. Okay, so uh, I'm going to have you uh, pull up the, or I think it's already up, right? Okay, uh, window tab, and oh, before you do, we age-advanced all of y'all with AI, so a lot of y'all said you're going to be better looking, so here it is. Go ahead. That was creepy. That went too fast. I've seen. I'll pull it back up. She still likes cars. It's actually kind of. Yeah, no, of course. Yeah. Is? Is that what your mom looks like? Actually, my mom looks way better. Is that a mom joke? My mom's skin's a lot better than that. I wonder what age are they looking? Let's say what age is the middle one? What age? Middle is like 63? No, middle is like what? 56? No, middle is like 40s? No, no way that's 40s? Really? I think her hair is 40s, but her, her eyes in that middle one is more like 55, at least 55, at least. Yeah, 40, a little bit. All right. Okay. Next, hot control tab. You got to click on it. There you go. Oh, what is that? No, I didn't mean it in a mean way. Okay, I feel like it's not like it's really you. Wait, what the [ __ ]? It just looks. That's what I'm saying. It's so like. It's like obuscating Morgan Freeman. You know what it is? It's including your, your piercings are aging. That's what it's trying to do. Trying to age, and it's just like everything's like. What the [ __ ]? That's what I'm saying. Thank you. I think the AI got confused with. I can't really follow and find the age element in her face. Do you see that? That's hilarious. Let's go back. You're going to age well. Oh my gosh. Definitely still doing poetry at that point too. I definitely am. That's Maya and. Okay, um, so let's say that that other one that's like 20, 30 years in the future, the middle one, uh, yep. You said you didn't know. I don't know. I still don't know cuz my mama looks. Wait, hold on. Wait, wait. Here's where we test this out. Which of these three is the best looking? Is the best looking? Yeah, depends on who you're asking. Huh, huh. I'm asking you. She's great at. Not just pick one. All I'm going to say. All I'm going to say is don't be mad when we're here super late because you guys can't answer a question easily. Um, okay, so which one's better looking? The left, the middle? Wait, did you say the middle? Subjective. Yeah, your subjective opinion. You think the middle one is the best looking? I don't know. Pick a lane, James. You got to pick one, bro. Pick a [ __ ] one. Am I in a better mental space in the middle or the last one? What is? I don't understand. What is wrong? What is, what is wrong with becoming old from a woman or man's perspective and remembering the time when you were youthful and beautiful? There's nothing wrong with that. Then why is there something wrong with saying, "Back when I was youthful and more beautiful and vibrant, I remember that time. I, I love that time. That's no longer the time," right? Is that what you say as a boomer? What? No, I'm, I'm saying that from you, a millennial. No, but I'm. No, she's reading my spirit. It's a boomer spirit. So, but that's what I'm, that's the point is that there's nothing controversial about, about a woman saying when they're older, saying, "Oh, remember when I used to be young again." This is like not a controversial statement, but you're like fighting it for some reason. I'm not fighting it. You're like, "No, I could be totally hot in 79." I said, "I don't know. I'm going to be wearing 79-year-old lady thongs." I said, "I don't know." And I will be wearing thongs. I'm sure of it. Oh boy. Did you just pick a number? Just end all the suffering. To whom, though? Don't forget there's also a male, and oh my god, someone's getting into politics for sure. I would be a cute man like that. True. I'm okay with it. All right, let's do next. Why are we looking at her like that? I want mine to be like that. How do you feel about that? So Tiffany, you said it makes me look like Coraline. Who is that? Oh yeah, you said better looking in like 30 years, right? That's you in 30 years, Tiffany. That's you. The middle one. That's you in 30 years. Supposed to be. You should look at my mom. Is she single? No. Oh, never mind. Do your parents know about your boyfriend? They love, they love him. So they do know. They love him more than I do. All right, uh. All right, next. Ew, did you just say ew? Why not? Oh my god, look at the last one. That's not. That's not good. You look like a librarian. I look awful, but like a librarian at an elementary school, not like, like a chain, like a reputable librarian. I appreciate that. Oh, not a reputable Bill Gates. I, I think I appreciate that. The middle one is not like a unicorn. I'm not going to lie to you. I appreciate that. I've seen a couple like 20-year-olds that live like that, so like in a high-crime urban library. Mhm. Okay. All right, uh, next. That's awesome. That's awesome. No, this is the worst one ever. Stop. What is this? Why is the middle one? This is the worst one by far on all the other episodes like this. One is the least forgiving. It's learning, the, the AI is learning. What does that mean? They really did not do you any, the neck. They totally destroyed your neck too, by the way. What the? Felicity, you have a fantastic neck, but they, the, the, the AI just came in and maybe that's gave you an Adam's apple. That's crazy. Like a zigzag. The middle one, like how, how many years have you ever done a swoop, Felicity? Like my bangs, like instead of like just bangs straight down, you like swoop them to the side. Um, is that? No, like all, you know, emo swoop here. You're help her out. Kind of like hers. I'm too. I think she's got it. Look, she's got it. Wait, let me see. Kind of looks good. Yeah, it's not bad. All right. You just need a little pink dye and you're good to go. Or green or blue or some [ __ ]. All right, uh, next. Oh boy. Oh, see, see if you look at the last picture, that's what's talking inside of me. So wow. Oh, actually, the middle, the middle one, that's what's talking. I like the middle. Actually, the last one. I'm going to have a long white ponytail, so it's not totally accurate. H. All right, next. What are they going to do? Okay. Oh, they used like [ __ ] 10-year-old photo. One's great. Looks like a denture commercial. God damn. Damn, bro. The [ __ ]. I look like a, a racist mare of some like. Yeah, like a mayor. Yeah, definitely like on that last one. I look like I'm a mayor of some small. No, you look like one of the guys from the contractor. Look at the twinkle in your eye in the first one. Where? Where was that? I was looking. I was. The sun was beaming into my eyeballs. I feel like it's the middle one now than you do the first one. Thank you. Wow. I appreciate that. I appreciate that, Tiffany. Thank you. Alien was saying you look like. Pull, pull up Tiffany's again really quick. Let's just actually look like you would be a golf course. That's not fair because they use. Wait, I look what like you would be at a golf course. I look like I'd be on a golf course. That I said that you look like the uh, X Factor judge. Xactor. It's like Louis Walsh or something. Simon Cowell? No, Louis Walsh. Like I just said. Oh, I know who you're talking about. Who the [ __ ] is that guy? He's the Irish guy that was the old Q-tip on there, the white hair. Oh, the Q-tip. Okay, the one that looks like that. All right, uh. I don't know where else. Oh, we need to do the gender swap too, but first we have a couple chats coming through. We have Slimstream. He just sent in a hundred. He didn't even send a message. Slimstream, thank you so much for your $100 contribution. You're a [ __ ] legend. Can we get some W's in the chat for Slimstream? Thank you so much, man. You're a legend. Slim Stream. Slim, the real Slim Shady. He deserves a freestyle. Do you know Slim Shady is now a grandpa? His daughter has a kid now. That. Okay. Inquisitor Zeal, I sent a hundred last time because I knew I wouldn't get can answer and love to repeat the question. When in your life did what you believe become more important than the rules created by others? What caused this? I believe that's directed to you guys. Go ahead. Take it. Take it away. I still don't know what you mean by that question. Like rejecting traditions, established norms that um, you know, over time through generations have been established and um, where does this impulse of just co, just rebelling like she said, um, this sort of this like innate rebellion to the established norms seems to be the, the trajectory at least where we are. I think we're on a podcast and all these questions are being directed to us for us to state our perspective about whatever the question is, and it's our perspective about whatever the question is doesn't mean that it's more important or a better perspective than societal. Well, for instance, when you were talking about your, your Instagram, you were saying this is empowerment, and I guess yeah, if we swap it out, the question is asking, um, where do you get the notion that your individual sense of empowerment is um, is more uh, is basically more imperative, more important than a collective standards for what behaviors are uh, and should be in society? I never said it was. It just is. I never said my pers, my perspective in what I'm showing on my Instagram is more important than. Well, you do, you did in a way because if we transported you into a a Muslim nation and you said you were Muslim, certainly if you maintain the position you have tonight, you would be going against what the question asked, the established norms and traditions of the society, and I would bet every person in that Muslim nation has a specific sin and they would also be going against Islamic law in some way, shape, or form. Well, that would, they correct it or not, they wouldn't keep doing it though, like that's the difference. We came up, we came up with was that the difference is between people, if they call themselves religious, whatever it be, if there's some sort of corrective aspect of the religion, there are to, to say you're practicing it correctly is to say that you're self-correcting or you're going to correct. I never said I was practicing it correctly. There are Muslims who still call themselves Muslims who did not fast at all during Ramadan. There are Muslims right after Ramadan who went right back to drinking, but would they say it's empowering? Depends. I don't know, but that's the difference we're talking about is like those people, if you ask them, are were you being a good Muslim during Ramadan, they might say no, but they wouldn't say, well, no, but it was empowering. I'm empowered. I feel empowered because that's how I feel, but as I stated, it's not right, right? Well, that's the answer to the question. If the, if the question was, why is it you, where did you get this notion that your preferences and urges and wants and needs are better than whatever the collective is that you're, you're in contrast to, in this case, Islam? The answer to the question, uh, to the person who sent in the chat is, I just basically want what I want. I want to follow my what empowers me, and that's it. You're following yourself, right? I think. Well, yes, to your last point, but also I think what I'm disagreeing with in terms of the question is the better part. Like I never said it was better, right? Well, yeah, I guess what he's saying, better, he might mean uh, takes precedent over. Would you say that your idea of empowerment at this moment, your concept of empowerment is more important, you're putting it as a priority over, let's say, uh, an Islam perspective of what empowerment is. You're valuing your concept of, of it above Islam's. Right? Valuing. See, it's the word selection that's throwing me off. What are you? What are you following? Which one are you putting up more on, on a pedestal? Or Islam? I'm going to end this discussion with this. I'm a revert, and so in being a revert, there were things I was already struggling with prior to becoming Muslim, and I'm working through those struggles and those sins. However it is, I'm choosing to work through them, and if posting pictures is a part of that, then it is, it's a part of that, and I'm not going to sit up here and not take accountability and ownership over what it is that's on my page, right? So it's going to be by your standards that you're even. It's going to be what Allah wrote, what, what he wrote. Yeah, yeah. So well, he already wrote that you're taking those pictures, so just like he wrote for you to ask me these questions, right? Yeah, exactly. If I was Islamic, I would, I should just be quiet because the questions were already answered, right? Now, I mean, for someone else to answer their question, and it's a good question because um, this applies to men as well, is that if you are in a system that's ordered, there, let's say they have some standard for ethics, decency, public decency, um, how you ought talk to people, not talk to people, um, if someone said, well, I just disagree with it all and I'm just going to reject it, how do you, how would you guys determine uh, whether that's like empowering or good? Like are, are they being bold like, or is it more valuable to actually follow rules um, in society? Intention. What's the intention behind it? I mean, how would that matter if the actions like, if an action crosses a line in, in a society, like if someone's a nudist and they, you know, they go to some, some place that's public and there's children, they just like, you know, get a raging erection, like if you said their intention mattered and not the action, if I said, should we use force to elim, you know, take that guy off of the streets and you said, well, it depends on our, on our intention, you know, you wouldn't say that, right? I also stated that some sins are worse than others. I'm not talking about the scale of sin. I'm saying if your measurement is intention, I just gave you an example where intention wouldn't matter, right? In that instance, right? If you're harming others, no, intention doesn't matter. Well, no, he's not just like your ass is out, it just happens to be his penis. It's a part of the body. No, it's a part of the body, but I'm not, I don't even know how, if I can't say this on the, on stream, but if I am self-gratifying myself online. You can't do that. No, no. Who said you're doing anything about it? Getting an erection is a natural thing that happens. You're not doing anything. No, no, no. It's like yawning. No, it's not like yawning. It's like waking up and yawning. Okay, but a normal person would hide their erection immediately. A normal person from my view would hide their ass. Would it, would they? Yeah, there's a lot of glass cheeks about to be out. It's supposed to be summer. I know there's going to be a lot of cheeks. Aren't we close to a campus? I'm saying what I'm saying is the intention, the intention can't be the, the determining factor because if someone just happens to get an erection in, in public and they just happen to be a nudist, right? They're just like, you, they just have less clothes, just like me. Don't you compare. It's a type of. It's a type of nudist. So what is, what is your intention then? What, what is your intention when we talking about intention? What is your intention by posting those pictures? We already, we already touched on that. I said it's, I'm empowering myself as a woman based on what I went through prior to me getting married, me becoming Muslim and all that stuff. All that plays a role. Just cuz you revert into Islam or whatever religion doesn't eliminate, as you stated, the sins and things you did prior to, right? So all right, so are you a mother yet? No, I'm not. Do you, would you want to be a mother? I, I'm not answering that. Oh my gosh. So. So okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. What, what, why would you not answer that? Because if I say no, I don't want to be a mother and Allah wrote for me to have a child, I'm going to feel bad. Just answer the impossible. Women that have children that did not want to have children. It's logically impossible what you said from your Muslim view. If Allah wrote that you're going to have kids, he just simply wrote that you're, you're saying you don't want him right now. That's it. It doesn't change anything from your view, but he didn't write that. He wrote for me to say I don't know. Yeah. So. So if he wrote that you, you will make it great politician. I feel like this is how Christian started. Okay, so. So this is the problem with, with this is what I'm trying to attack here is that if you, let's hypothetically say you had a child and they were a female, right? At what age would you teach them that showing their body is empowering? What age? I would teach them at all ages to be comfortable with who they are and how, how they go about doing that. I'm not going to judge them, okay? As long as they're not harming anyone or breaking the law. Okay, if they came to you and said, "Mom, your pictures online, I just found them on accident. Some kid in the class actually brought them up in class. That harms me." Are they? Are you going to listen or you going to say, "Oh, sweetheart, you just don't understand. I'm empowered." I would say that those pictures are how I chose to express myself. That's what I. And he's, and the kid, the, the daughter or son says, "Mommy." And just to clar, I have to say this just to clarify cuz you're taking the, the pictures too far. I don't have, I don't, I don't do sex work. I don't have any OnlyFans. And anybody who does, I have nothing against them, but that's not something I do. I have sensual photos online that do go along with my poetry. I'm taking your standard, right, by the way, and not other people's and doing what you do. I'm asking you a direct question. If you call, if you tell that to your own kid that that's empowering, right? I didn't say I'd say that. I, I would tell them that that's how I chose to express myself. Okay, and then they say, "Mommy, how you're continuing to express yourself hurts me." Mhm. Are you going to respond to that or just say, "Well, no, I'm empowered." I take that into consideration. Okay, because you should care about that. That's honestly when, when you ask me if I want to be a mother.

I'm thinking about that. When I'm thinking about children, I'm thinking about the fact that you have to consider someone else's feelings and emotions and all of that, fortunately. But not what Ala say, but not what Ala says. So your your opin, your kids hasn't come down and talked to me about my in your a kid's opinion, in your own view, you're you're you are declared a Muslim, right? That's what you say. You're saying that your own kids' opinion, saying this is wrong, I don't like this, mommy, is actually uh, it takes precedent over your own god's uh view of it.

No, because I've never had a direct conversation with the law about my Instagram. So you've never had a direct conversation that Islam is true either from Allah. How would you know that? What do you mean? When did Allah tell you Islam? You choose Islam. I don't want to talk about that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you don't know my spiritual experiences. I never said I did. But your standard is if uh Allah has to talk to me directly to tell me something's wrong, then Allah would necessarily have to talk to you directly to know that Islam's true, otherwise why are you following it? And maybe that happens certain down the road. All right, um.

Oh, we're going to do the uh gender swap. So before we pull these up, I want you guys, we're going to ask you, would you date the male version of you? So uh, is it all ready to go? Okay, uh, all right. Oh my god, that looks like my aged brother. So no, I would not. Oh my god, that looks like your Asian brother. I said aged, he's younger than me. So I was saying like older. You have a brother though? Yeah, he's and he looks like this. Yeah, well, he's 12 right now, so he doesn't have a. That's a Yikes. Okay, that just looks like him if he. But would you date the male version of you? No. Are we talking about lookwise or like personality wise? You know where's the [ __ ]? It's a pictures, what it's [ __ ] pictures. Okay, uh, all right, next. Wait, what the [ __ ]? Oh my gosh, would you date the male version of? This one's [ __ ] up. Would you date? Would you? Yeah, would you date Dennis Rodman? I guess yeah. Okay, all right, that's uh, that's. Would you date someone with all the same exact piercings as you? I feel like that'd be pretty cool actually. I mean, I wouldn't care for the most part. I've met like, I have like, I don't have preferences basically, right? So I can date like the most basic looking guy or I can find another guy that is like super body mods. I found this one guy, he's he's so hot. All right, next. Yeah, split tongue and everything. I was like "Fuck dude." Mhm. Would you date the male version of you? Does he stimulate mentally? Probably, bro. This is like actually [ __ ]. Can you just answer a question please? I'm serious. I don't know. Wait, you honestly don't go around like being like a single person and you go "Oh, I'm attracted to that, that person over there caught my eye." So everyone catches your eye equally? That doesn't make sense. I didn't even say that. Just cuz it's nothing doesn't mean it's everything. I'm just. Is that your poem? Is that a poem? I'm just a [ __ ] ha, some lame ass ha coup man. All right, so would you date the male version of you? What is wrong with you? I answered. What is wrong with you? I answered the question already. You said I don't know, that's the answer. No, I said does he stimulate mentally? Is he attractive to you? Do you think he's attractive? Do you think he's physically attractive? Is being attracted stimulated mentally? I have a question. Wait, wait, how is that is another way of? Yes, do you think? How about this, do you think that the male version of you is physically attractive? Sure, that's that's when you're attracted to someone physically, isn't that a stimulation of your of your mind? Well, do you find the male version of yourself, that picture, do you find that picture male version of yourself attractive? That wasn't the question. The question was would I date that person. Would you just talk to to him? Fine, okay. I'm changing the question then. Would you? I'm changing the question then. Do you find the male version of you is like attractive? I think someone on the world in the world would find that picture, bro. I don't care what someone in the world. Are you aren't? I'm a sapiosexual. How many times do I have to say that? Just throw an answer out there. No, you're not going to force me to just answer. I'm not sexually attracted to anyone. Then that's not true. I'm a sapio, I'm attracted to like. So on on right at face value you see someone? No, that's there's zero attraction that triggers in your brain. No, zero. You're not drawn to anybody unless you start talking to them, correct? How do you? How are you drawn to talking to people then? People talk to me. I'm not invisible. So you don't read their energy at all? So you just. Do me a favor, scoot your microphone this way. No, that you turned it, scoot it that way, scoot it to the very edge, edge of the table, edge of the table, mic clip all the way at the bottom please. All right, moving on. I'm not going to deal with that anymore. Um, next, would you do? I I think he's attractive. He is attract. Okay, all right. And a programmer, so he has a lot of money. Yeah, definitely. Next. Nerd, nerd. Fine. Would you date the male version of you, Tiffany? Me again? Why are you flashing? Cuz I'm I'll pull them back up, don't worry. But no, absolutely not. Why? You wouldn't like. Do you? Are you attracted to Asian men? Um, yeah, some. Haven't you only dated white guys though? I've only dated one guy. Oh, okay. All right, cool story. Didn't you meet him through the podcast? No, kind of no. Come on, what are you talking about? Didn't you like meet him through the podcast? No, we met through Instagram. He DM'd me. Yeah, but how did he find you? TikTok. He found you on TikTok. Oh, okay. Actually, that could be the case. Okay, all right. I shouldn't take too much credit though. TikTok, not going to take all the credit. Next. Ew, no. Did you just say no? It's just me with facial hair. That dude was right. That is true. It is actually just. They didn't really. Not much has changed. He looks like. It's literally just me with facial hair. It looks like who? He looks like brunette Jeffrey Dahmer. Yikes. It doesn't look right. It doesn't look okay. It ain't right. All right, uh, next. Oh damn, mine's like way different. Mine's like the same and hers is just like a totally different person. I mean, the eyes are all [ __ ] up, strange. Uh, wow, you kind of like better, Lissy. You look. Is that a? Yes. Um, yes. I don't look like my dad in that one. Okay, so this is a. This is an upgrade from some of the previous. I would. I would. All right, okay. Next. What the? Wait, what the [ __ ]? How did it even take my? Listen, this is unfair. Why did it take my beard away? Please, I'm scared. Take your heart away. Bearded women, would you? I I don't even know what that is. You look like a comic. No, I would run from that. I would run from that. Yeah, you look like a comic book character, like a super run. I'm going to extinguish that. Please go. She beat your ass. She kicked me. Okay, all right. That's actually. Second one looks very realistic as a woman. Yeah, like a dork. You're a dorky, likable. Like I play pickleball. Yeah, easygoing, fun. Yeah, I would. I would date. Uh, middle. Yeah, I'll take middle. I'll take uh. I'll take them both. Why not? A little looks a little like a trans woman, but whatever. I'll. If it's a female, I'm I'm down. All right, uh, I think that's it, right? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it. Uh, okay, guys, if you want get the TTS in kibbaka. Did I pull this up? I think I did. Kaibaka, thank you for the gifted 10 subs, man. I really appreciate it. All right, we're going to get into the uh questionnaire here. Actually, yeah, why not? What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? Um, I put 30 grand minimum. I think that's enough to live off of. Sure, it's actually kind of a little bit more than what you would need. I don't know, I was making less than that and I was doing just fine. Okay, all right. What about you? Yeah, I guess I can't agree with that. Like 30,000. 30,000. Okay, what about you? It was a month, a year, a year, a year. 100k. 100k. All right, what about you? Well, I would go with, I wrote it down there as 250k. You said depends on when I get married and his age, but you want. That's not me. I think I. Oh, that's Tiffany. Wait, oh my bad. Okay, sorry. I got my things mixed up. You wrote what? 150k? 2 250. 250k. All right, uh, and wait, what do you do for work again? Well, I'm a business owner. I have my own business. Okay, so you make around that much then. Okay, Tiffany? 200k. 200 and but hold on, you said 200k to 500k. Yeah, depends on what. If you don't get the nose job though, what? Like if you don't get the nose job, are you going to stick to 200k? Like do you feel once after the nose job you're like 500k? Um, no, the nose job wouldn't change anything. Oh, okay. Well, that's not changing anything with the. The money has nothing to do with it. 500, half a mill, half a mill. I mean, if if I'm getting married at 30, I would want the guy to make 500k. You. So like, let's say you're marrying a guy who's 32, you he's going to be making 500k at 30. I mean, you can make 500, so that's like top 1%. Do you think you're a top 1% girl? My god. Um, yeah, honestly. Wait, why do you scoff at that? Do you think? Are you like? Are you like "Yeah, she's not a 1% girl." Is that what you're saying? Wait, are you saying she's not a 1% girl? I scoffed at you for even asking that question. Why? Why would it? Hold on, why? Because I think it's degrading. But how is it? Whoa, wait, wait, wait, hold on. How is it degrading? Do you think you're a top 1% girl? Yeah. Why would that be degrading? Because you're saying you're implying. So do. Okay, so hold on. Do I need to affirm her as a 10 or excuse me, a 1% girl? You don't need to affirm or deny or anything. It's just the question though that was even asked is like degrading. So but if somebody thinks they're a 1% person, whatever metric you might uh use for that sort of evaluation, must we affirm their self-identity? No, you don't have to affirm. It's the fact you even ask the question. What? But if I'm asking her, it's actually I'm not even affirming or denying her own self-assessment. I'm simply asking if she herself thinks she's. I mean, I didn't find it so. Yeah. Okay, so what's the answer? Yeah, I am. You're a. Why is that? What m? What makes you a top 1% woman? Um, I I mean, I guess I come from a top 1% household in terms of income. Uh, like my dad makes around that much. I'd want my husband to make more. So your dad. You said your dad makes like half a million a year. Well, our household income. Yeah. Well, okay, so you and your mom, the mom and dad combined. Yeah. What what do they do for work? Do they run a business? Um, no, my dad's an engineer and my mom's an accountant. Okay, so just to be clear, you want a singular person to bring home the combined income of both your parents, of two people. Um, you said your household. My dad, my dad makes majority of it. So. Okay, sure. Um, so I get that you. I'd also make that much or more. What are you studying? Polyign econ. I'm pre-law. So you're going to become an attorney. What kind of an attorney? Probably corporate. Corp, like you are the internal, what's it called? Internal counsel or for a corporation, like a part of a legal team at a company or would you work for a legal firm and you would do corporate law. Okay. Do do you want children? Okay. Would let's say you find the top earner guy and he's baking. Let's go to the peak 500k. Um, and he said "Well, I've got I'm doing the 500k, it's increasing, I want you to be my wife. Uh, will you abandon law school to have children? Will you will you accept the? Yeah, totally. Oh, cool, nice. Okay, um. But wait, so I'm not sure though, like you said that you believe that you're in the top 1% because you come from your parents are in the top 1% of earners, but you realize. I mean, I'm saying I'm already part of the statistic. Genetic. I mean, your parents uh your parents' wealth doesn't necessarily uh have anything to do with like what though. You have. Do you have siblings? Yeah, yeah. What if they just write you out of the will and you never see a penny of that or they're just like those hardcore parents that are like, I'm not going to, you're going to have to make your own way in life. The only angle I could see that being a type of sort of attribute that the man would like to see is that she's, if you are a part of that class, it's a class thing actually. It would be that you know how to operate within a higher, you know, socially, you know, almost like snobbery, like you're already up there, so you understand how that works. Yeah, show us your Kanye tattoos. You want me to take off my shirt? No, like roll up your sleeve. That's. Come on, it's going to be hard. So I mean, okay, that lowers the class a little bit. So I have three. So at least the guy can, you know, 500k. Yeah, he can burn those off. But wait, laser them? What do you? Would. Okay, would you let you? If he said laser those off, would you say for them? Yeah. Okay, cool. But so I think even going ahead and granting like, okay, your mom and dad, they make x amount of money, that puts them in the top 1%, by extension that like elevates you a little bit. Most men don't really care about your money. Like men don't care about your career success, your career ambition, the money that you make. Men don't really care about that. I don't want to become a lawyer, that's just my plan B. Okay, sure. That's what you're pursuing in the event that you're just forever alone or whatever it is. If my husband can fund my business, then I don't want to work. Wait, what do you mean fund your business? I want to make a clothing brand for skinny people. Wait, hold on, because I could actually get on board with that one. Going to help you out because sizing is just not inclusive for skinnier people. It's not just the kids' section. That's true. That's true, dude. It's hard to find like an extra small is like a medium these days and I hate that. I mean, I like, I make this like, you know how like Yeezy does it like one, two, three. No, I don't know about Yeezy. I listen to [ __ ] Leonard Skinner. Do you think I buy [ __ ] Yeezy by? Oh my god. Um, is your shirt currently extra small? It's Brandy, so it's one size. Mhm. Wait, so hold on. Okay, I was asking you if you think you're a 1% girl and you cided to the fact that, well, my parents. I'm pretty rare. I think. How so? Um, I guess my political beliefs. Your political beliefs. You realize Trump won the popular vote. Trump won the popular vote. Your political like, there's plenty of conservative women. I guess you even vote for Trump, by the way. Yeah. No, so you didn't even. Wait, okay, so you're. Oh, oh, okay, sorry, Brian. I was gonna say Brian's kind of asking like if you get a top earner, um, he gets it. It would be true that he would get a larger selection of women to choose from, right? So in in people, let's say let's ask if there's three other women who are in the exact same class as you as far as income, kind of adopted in for their parents, um, shares political views and all that is included, um, what are you offering that man that you think the other uh contestants, if you will, uh, so basically like what do I what do I do? Yeah, what do you bring? What do you bring to the table? The classic. It is classic. Yeah, me. I just me. Just you. That's also a classic answer. It's classic. What do you want me to say? So it's like it's like this, the man brings XYZ. It guess what? Like when when you say 500k, that's not identical to him, right? So he doesn't say just me, right? Cuz if the man uses your standard and says, um, what's your name? Sorry, Tiff, Tiffany says Tiffany, um, you know, I want to get married, and you go, oh cool, how much do you make? Cuz I have a standard, and they say, oh, uh, I make 50k, and then you say "Well, what else are you bringing to the table? What are you bringing to the table if it's not the, you know, the money and the support and my my jeans?" And then no, the dude says "It's just me." Like that's not going to work, right? If the man says it. Yeah, yeah, definitely not. Yeah, so that's why it's like we've heard that answer before. I I think the correct answer in this climate for men, especially in your um sort of political and and social status is what they want to hear is I'm going to mother a lot of your children. That's that's what they're that's what you bring to the table. Yeah, and my dinner and my jeans, like my my children would get my. Actually, jeans might be a good a good answer, jeans depending on how you how you look at them. Wait, when you say you're rare in terms of your political beliefs, what did what does that mean? Honestly, I mean, I realize that politics is just not for me to um like in the last couple months, but I just don't really have like, I don't know how to explain it. Wait, did you say politics is just not for you? Oh, no, no. Okay, so no, I agree that is rare, and that's actually what men are looking for because, okay, if you're into politics, you actually have. No, no, you actually have. Stop laughing. You actually have to have a lot of love for the people to be in politics and be passionate about it, and I don't have love for the people, so I feel like don't care. Wow, like I like keeping up with it, I just like don't have the passion that I'm willing to devote to it. Well, the thing is the man doesn't want to care about your political uh beliefs. So so in a sense, you do have the right perspective. Just not care about is really important though, and your political beliefs like kind of say a lot about your personality and how sensitive you are. I thought you said politics are not for you. So a guy that doesn't like politics like a like a working in politics. I like politics as a hobby, but I just politics for you. I just wouldn't ever be a politician or go into that field. Mhm. I don't blame you or like brand myself. You wouldn't go into politics. No. Any ladies want to get into politics? I think we got some poetry. Why do you want so much? I mean, I just have three degrees relating to politics. You have what? Three degrees relating to politics? Yo, I can't tell. Um, wait, okay, so hold on. Where were we? Were you talking to me? I don't probably not. Wait, we were going around the table. Oh, what would you want the minimum? Oh, okay, five. So $500,000. You want a 1% guy. You scoffed at it. You think you're 1%? Here, let me ask you, Tiffany. Tiffany, let me ask a couple questions here. Okay, how many children do you want? Two. Two. Okay. Are you a virgin? Yes. Um, are you going to homeschool your kids? Are you submissive? I could be. What do you mean you could be? Um, I'm not a submissive person in general, but I could submit if I chose to to your boyfriend or husband. Uh, will you take your husband's last name? Yeah. Will you? Um, I don't know what uh [ __ ] it evaded me. The question left my brain. I think she wins. Is that a one? Is it that might be chat? Is it 1%? Does she win? Is she a 1% girl? What's the major of your boyfriend? Virgin. He's also polyai. Will you get rid of law school? Will you have the tattoos lasered off? Yes, if he pays. If he pays for the removal. Yeah. Your boyfriend. Will you stop listening? Never mind. Um, he says you can't get a nose job too. He says you can't even if you can't get a nose job and you got to stop listening to Kanye. Will you do it? Everybody loves you for you are. Okay. Or how about you can listen to his first three albums. If the guy's like "Oh, you shouldn't get a nose job and stop listening to Kanye because of what he tweets and stuff and stuff like that." Like, I already don't like you, like we're not compatible, and he's probably kind of gay. Wait a second. If he says don't get a nose job, you're not going to, but he'll let you'll let him remove the tattoo but not not get in the way of the the nose job. I mean, what is his passion with for the nose job? That's a crazy hill to die on. Depends on the reason behind why he doesn't want me to get a nose job, cuz most men don't care if women get plastic surgery as long as it doesn't look botched. If it if it looks good, men generally don't care. But if the man's if the my boyfriend's don't get a nose job because you look fine and perfect already, that's like such a woman thing to say. Like you're so gay. Okay, how about if he says about it, you can get a nose job, but I get to determine the shape of it? Why would you want to like? What if he likes a piggy? What if he wants a piggy nose? She knows for his wife because he thinks that's attractive or attractive. Yeah. What if he says that? Oh, 500k. There it is. He's the man of your dreams. 500k is not the man of my dreams, cuz I would also be making that much. Oh, there it is. You should do a one-size-fits-all store. I feel like you could you could corner every market with that. All right. What? What would you want the minimum yearly income to be for your future husband? Depends on the. It depends on the zeitgeist at the time, the the what? The zeitgeist, whoever's president, you know, the economy, things like that, as long as I'm comfortable. 50 to 80 would be nice. Okay, Felicity. What about you? 150. 150. All right. How tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date? Um, I'm 4'10". The shortest guy I date is like 5'5". What about you? I'm 5'6". Uh, shortest guy I would date is like, I don't know, I don't care. Profound. I'm 5'5", and I think I put NA. You did put NA. At least I'm consistent. What about you? I'm 5'2", and I think the shortest guy was 5'9". Okay, Tiffany? 5'5" and 5'9". Me? Yeah, that that's kind of how it works. 5'9", my apologies. I'm. How? No, how tall are you and what's the minimum height of a man you would date? Oh, um, I'm 5'1", so it's pretty diverse there. Probably 5'5" if I had to. Sure. For listen, I'm 5'5", shortest I'd date like 5'8" or 5'9". Sure. All right, uh, would you rather cross paths with a random man or a random bear on a hike? Um, totally a man. I could probably take him out better than I could a bear. Okay. What about you? I'm going to say bear. What about you? I said bear. Definitely a man. Why would I cross paths with a bear? I man. Okay, man. I put I don't know, but I think man. Okay, it's a tough one, but I chose man. Man. So wait, bear, bear for the two of you. Okay. Why do you? Why do you pick bear? Why don't you pick man? Listen, you're going to think I'm bad faith for saying this, but I just adore animals more than anything. Cool. What about you? What about trees?

I just been in too many essay situations, too many stories. I don't want to be on a path alone with another man. Okay, so like, sort of your own anecdotal experience. You've had a lot of bad experiences, so you pick a wild animal over a man. Um, what I mean, uh, if you had to attribute like, let's say the risk, the likelihood of risk, or a risk percentage, if you had to say, okay, I think 50% of men would do this, or maybe 20% or 80%, if you had to put a percentage to it, what would it be? A percentage of men that would essay?

Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, I know. I don't. You get? How about a guess? I don't even want to say, because that's just insulting to the male species. Like, I don't want to assume a percentage of men that would. Do you think it's a majority of men?

I don't know.

Okay. Do you not care? Do you think it's a minority of men? There's some sort of percentage, of course, but I just don't know what it is.

Yeah, just take a guess. I'm not— Your guess doesn't have to be correct; it could just be a guess. I don't want to guess, 'cause it could— if I guess too high, it can make me look bad, and if I guess too low, it can make me look bad. Like, I don't know. But I think, in a way, she actually gave you the answer.

Did she though? She doesn't know what— I didn't give you an answer. That bear— she gave you the answer that says what— how she thinks about— No, that's not giving it. Wait, are you saying it is because you— the— No, that's what I'm more comfortable with. He asked me in general, generally saying, "What's the percentage of all men that would essay?" That's like a completely different question. I'm just not comfortable alone with men.

Wait, but you're comfortable alone with bears— with a bear. That's— That's the answer. At least I won't end up in a SA. There's not a possibility. Well, it'll eat your face off though, but like, that's the thing is, if you know, as— as long as you're not going to get essayed, the danger of a black bear, let's say, attacking you— um, why does the bear have to be black? Because they commit more of the— the attacks. It's not an American bear. Bears aren't asexual either.

No, no, it's actually true that black bears commit more of the attacks. Mh um, so the— the question is, how did you— you're just going from your experience that this has happened to you before, but Brian asked you a fair question is to say like, well, a lot of things happened to other people before, and I— isn't it fair to say statistically that there's more people who don't commit aggression against other people than there are who do, just for any given— for any given like violation. A lot of essay cases go unreported, so I don't know. Yeah, based off of the data that is out there, you could look at like the DOJ, the FBI crime statistics, so you could base it off of, well, what we do know. So based off what we do know, based off feminist propaganda that you've likely heard— what do you think?

I'm not answering, but I did answer the question related to comfortability, and I would be more comfortable in the face of an animal than I would a male alone in— Wait, I'm just a little confused. You said you don't like to be alone with men, yet like there's a video of you in the pool like letting the dude pour alcohol down your throat.

There was several people around. We were not alone. Okay, so— um, have you ever had a one-night stand?

I have had one.

Okay. Is that how you met your current— and actually, I wasn't alone. I had a friend.

The friend was a witness to your sexual encounter?

The friend was in the vicinity of— It was an orgy.

No, it was an orgy. Okay. Um, I didn't go alone to a man's place.

Okay. Mhm. So you're saying that— let's switch up the scenario. Let's say in— at the zoo, there's a section— it's just a man at the zoo, right, and you're at the zoo alone, and you're— you're like looking at all the animals from afar. You're telling me that you're more likely to get into the enclosure with the bear than the man? If you were to choose— a zoo is a really bad example to use. Just engage with— engage with the hypothetical.

I don't know.

You don't know, bro? How do you— Yeah, if you had to pick one, do you get in the enclosure with the bear or with the man?

Seriously? I don't know. You got to use those polys, bro. What do you mean you don't know? Here, do you need— How about this— I'mma give you 10 seconds to figure it out. One, two— I don't know. I did figure it out. That's my answer.

Yeah, that— okay. Think about it though, there— here's the hypothetical: you can get in one or the other, and you have to choose which— do you get in? Here, watch, let me make it simpler— bad like— just question in general. No, it's testing for logic. It definitely is, because a lot of times that people are going to commit violence or whatever— uh, when people are alone, right? So if you're saying a zoo and there's other people around, of course the man's not going to— No, I said there's no one there but her. It's just her. She's the only patron at the zoo.

For sure, I understand what she's saying then. For sure. What— What do you mean she's saying? She doesn't know. She says she doesn't know. If only it was Opposite Day. So okay, how about this: if— if they're alone— if she's alone, she goes into the bear enclosure, whatever, right? So she could get eaten, right? But if she's alone and she goes into the male one, what's— what's worse? What's worse, getting essayed or getting eaten?

I think getting essayed, to be honest. There's a bunch of people that's always trying to gaslight you, tell you that that's not what happened and blah blah blah this that— you'd rather die than the low percent chance of getting essayed?

It's not a low chance.

How did you determine the percentage? That's what Brian asked you. How do you determine the percentage of going into an enclosure? Yeah, I mean, she probably won't say it, but to me, I feel like whenever I'm around like majority of men— how many times I am not— yeah, what percentage? Give us a percentage, me.

Okay. 80.

80. Okay. So 80%. Yeah, four out of five men are essayers. Do you have brothers?

Yeah, I have brothers.

You have multiple brothers? How many brothers?

I have two. Two. So okay, one of them— maybe even both of them are essayers. Okay, this is just an extension of your own logic. Okay, so you're just throwing— You're acting like that's going to hurt my feelings or do something to my brain, but it's just a possibility anyway. I mean, I'm not really concerned if it hurts your feelings or not, but typically people like that you're like trying to get a— get you moment. Gotcha. But so just to be clear, your own blood— your two brothers— one or both of them are— one of them is a piece of [ __ ]. I'm not going to sit here and like defend them. What about your father? Is he an 80% chance he's an essayer?

I mean, it could be uncles, cousins, could be entire family. Okay, I don't know, but from my perspective and like my experience, most people are just like that. This is— this is why I try to bring this hypothetical into more realistic things. Um, you know, the path in the woods is actually common enough, uh, but I would say the most common uh example of a man and a woman in an enclosed area that happens every single day would be a man and a woman in an elevator. Would you agree? And how many women have felt uncomfortable— First, I didn't ask if they're uncomfortable. We're talking about the reality of something happening, not what you feel. Okay, so would you agree that the one of the most common habitual moments where men and women are together alone it would be an elevator?

Yes.

Okay. So if you were to take a hundred elevator trips with men and women— there's just a man and a woman in there— like uh, you could take a live feed of like a security camera, you could probably collect this, right? Is it more likely that uh we would find an essay in that example— is that more likely than if we introduced a bear? It's still not a good example because— get off the elevator— there's going to be 100 or whatever— like you're still not— What are you talking about? The man— the man can hear— of course someone's not going to see you in an elevator— someone's— if it's— if there's like a possibility that someone's going to come in— why would— Why would they want like— I say you in a— What are you talking about? You can stop— you can stop the elevator. If a man stopped the elevator while I was in it alone with him, I'd freak out. I know— how many times on— on like CCTV and all these security cameras, how many times do you think it's happened where a man and a woman were in an elevator and the man didn't do that versus when they did? The reason why there's those videos— stops happening is because they're not even in the elevator. Answer the question. If— if I'm stuck on an elevator with a man— like I just told you, he can push the button. You said you'd be scared at that point. I'm asking if the first step of essaying in this instance is pushing the button and stopping the elevator and doing this thing. I'm— I'm asking you what's more likely to occur— a man in an elevator attacking you— be— being that you're both alone in the elevator or a bear attacking you if you're both alone in the elevator.

Both would attack. Both same likelihood because now we were talking about an enclosed space versus I'm alone in the woods.

Oh, so men— Oh, so men— So men are more likely to aggress you if you're in an enclosed space?

I mean, yes. That bear— What do you mean? No, I'm saying they would both attack you at that point. Now I'm in close vicinity versus we're in the woods and the bear's over there and I'm walking on my path. Well, is— wait, so is the woods an enclosed space or not?

No, the woods is not an enclosed space.

Oh, so that's not consistent then.

No, that's why your example was bad. Well— well, a field isn't an enclosed— closed space. You know how many people get aggressed in— in an open field? I mean, I don't— I don't understand— I don't understand what your— your standard here is— like how you're measuring this stuff— talking about a— a field or a wood space. I just gave you an example that happens every single day in every building right here in this city, right? There's an elevator where there's literally like a seven- to ten-foot— different space— hold on— they are in a question— you're enclosed in the same place, and what you said is how many bear attacks happen versus essays. I just want to know— also, what if the bear was in the elevator?

That's what I said. I said they— at that point they would both likely attack me 'cause we're close together now. There's like a foot difference. A bear is not guaranteed to— Okay, here's— here's a— here's one more follow-up question, and we can move on. I'm just saying that it's like one more question. If a bear was in an elevator with you, right, or on a path— if a bear was on a path with you— would you want another bear— an additional bear or a man? What if a bear was on a path with you and you thought— look— look— if you— if you were on a path with a bear and you were— you looked at the bear and you were fearful of the bear, would you want an additional bear or a man?

I would want a man.

Okay. At least the bearing could attack the man. Like, I'm not— there's the reason— that's the reason KFM has donated $200. I can't believe it, but Alien is the sweetest and most honest soul on this panel. She can answer a question. I know you like trees, and I'm working with a twig. Let's make it happen. Wow, that was— You want to think he's shooting a shot, to be honest. I don't know what to tell you, dude. I'm not looking for a relationship, but thank you. I don't know— this whole man versus bear thing, it's just all cap. Like, have you guys seen a woman's reaction to a spider?

Mhm.

I have a spider— I just think it's unlikely for a bear to attack you and you know like actually delete you. I feel like they're going to maul you, and then you're just going to be left like that, you know? It's going to— No, they're probably going to— it's eat you alive.

Bears eat you?

Yeah. Not always. And men don't always essay women. Agree with that. The [ __ ]— What the [ __ ]? Yeah, it's just going off on everyone. Yeah, that's what everybody can get the smoke, I guess. Um, how about this— um, if you could— this is sort of related— uh, to the two women who answered bear— if you could get rid of all men, and this would mean that women would never experience essay from men again, would you do it?

I don't think it really matters, 'cause you could still get essayed by women too. Yeah, listen, I've been there, so I'm just being—

Okay. Fine. How about in this hypothetical— essay becomes impossible, so women couldn't essay you either, but they get to kick it, but all the men got to go? What— I mean, of course, I would want to be in a world where no one gets essayed. So just to be clear, you would get rid of all men if it meant that another woman would never experience essay from men again?

If they were going to go anyway, I wouldn't just voluntarily be like, "Hey, all men need to—" No, you have the power— like you have a magic button. You press the magic button, all men disappear, and that means no woman will ever be essayed again. How about essay just disappear? Huh? How about essay just disappear? How about that? Cool. Answer the actual question though. Done. Just answer. Why can't you— it's just— answer the question. If it's in the sake of essay, then I would say yeah. I mean, to me, it's a kind of a betrayal because my best friend is a male, right? But like I said, for the sake of like essay, I probably would say yeah, a men can get the [ __ ] out of here. Okay, what's your answer? I answered it already.

No, you didn't answer the question. What is going on? Like, I feel like I'm saying words— I'm speaking English, right? I said, "Well, how about ethics?" You didn't answer the question. Here— 2 + 2 equals what? Depends on the person. You're actually [ __ ]— you're actually [ __ ] [ __ ]. Okay, relax. Calm down. No, just like— can you be good faith answer the question? I did answer it. You just don't like my answer. You said I wish essay would go away.

No, that's not an answer. I said, "How about essay just go away?" If you're going to, you know, imitate me, at least get the sentence correct. It's a hot take. Wow. Great. Maybe we can— war can go away too. I'd love— platitude— hypothetical. You know what I mean? This isn't bad— what— that's her hypothetical answer, so just let her— Yeah, I did give a hypothetical. I answered your question with a hypothetical. I was like, "How about essay just disappear?" Yeah, that's not an answer— it's a hypothetical answer. Wow. I don't even know what the [ __ ] that means. Why don't you answer the actual question? Holy [ __ ]. Don't be pissy when we're going [ __ ] late because y'all can't answer a question. Answer the question. This seems like an easy answer. Like, no, I wouldn't [ __ ] eugenics the entire male species because like a 1% of them are criminals and predators. Mhm. But okay, your refusal to answer the question further points— I mean, you— you won't actually give an answer, but I'm just going to assume then that your refusal to just immediately kneejerk— no, I'm not going to kill three billion people so that some people aren't uh victimized. Yeah, you're a sexist against men. Why are you attacking me? Why are you refusing to answer the question?

I'm just being myself. What you told me to be at the beginning of the show— annoying. Then I'm annoying to you?

No, you're just annoying, period. Just— I— I don't understand what's so difficult here. Do you not understand the question? I can clarify. Would you like me to provide a clarification?

I understood the question perfectly.

Okay. Repeat the question back to me. You were asking me if I'd get rid of all men if that meant that essay didn't exist anymore.

Yep.

Cool. I said what I said. Yeah. Would you— Why are we going— yeah, you said essay bad. I agree with you— essay bad. Do I need to repeat the question again? What— okay, there's two possible answers to the question.

Uh-huh.

Yes, I would get rid of men; no, I would not get rid of men. And I answered it— which of the two— I just didn't answer it the way you wanted me to.

Yeah, it's not answering the question. I thought this was a podcast, and I could answer questions the way I like to answer questions.

Yeah, but there's an expectation that you participate in good faith.

I am participating.

No, you're not.

Yes, I am. I'm giving— I've actually been contributing more to the conversation— contributing, but you haven't been actually contributing in good faith. What— these are my answers. Now I'm lost in the sauce. I'm confused. If a question is asked, and buried in that question is two possible answers, and you refuse to pick one of those two possible answers, and you just say, "Well, a component of what is inside that question— I disagree with that specific thing." That's not an answer to the question. So like, look— chocolate or vanilla ice cream?

Chocolate.

Okay. You didn't say strawberry.

No, I didn't.

Why not? Because you said chocolate. Are— Okay, that's— those— question— that's a simple question. These aren't simple questions.

I'm not saying it's a simple question. It is actually presented as a simple question. Uh, the answer— I mean, to most people— I mean, anyone else want to answer the hypothetical? Do you eliminate an entire uh section uh of humanity because uh just to eliminate the minority of perpetrations that are— that are done by that group, or do you not? I mean, it's— to me, it's a simple— not— it's not justified, right? You don't just— yeah— no, I think you try to make the circle small as possible though. Yeah, you don't eliminate— right, there's a— all sorts of crazy consequences and entailments for eliminating the male sex, right?

Right.

But of course, the consequences should be done, you know, for the guys who do that. Sure. But that— the question isn't— that— the question is simple: do you eliminate— do you use elimination as a tactic to get rid of a small aspect of that population's behavior? The answer is no.

No. Yeah. Why is it not— Why is that hard to say no? I mean, it's a reasonable answer to say no. I wouldn't eliminate everybody because then that's also implying that you're okay with a small percentage of the male species— that's not logically— not— no— logically, it's not— that's how I think you're asking me. Okay, now that we've gone ahead and granted that no— if you were to say, I would not get rid of all these men— how can I— I think it's extremely unfair that I can't like say what I'm thinking— like that's just how I'm thinking— but there's a logical failure, and we're trying to correct the logical failure.

Logical failure of my opinion? Yeah, because your brother and your dad and your grandpa and all that can be eliminated too, and it's just not an answer. What you're giving is not an answer; it's just— there's a lot of it that you're not even considering. It's like you're coming from an anger— you— what most of your reactions is coming from a— Wait, hold on— no, I'll make this super simple. Stop— stop— stop. Okay, do you think littering is bad? Here, let's put it split. Okay, put it split. Do you think littering is bad?

Yes.

Okay. Uh, do you think we should end the entire human species so we can stop littering?

Of course not.

But littering is not essay. How can you— hold on— I'm going— I'm addressing your previous— Hold on— I'm— Stop— stop. I'm addressing your previous statement. So your previous statement was— if I choose to say no, I want to not eliminate all men, that means that I'm justifying this action of essay, right? But you're very easily— like you saying, "No— hold on— hold on— let me explain it." Now I ask— it's— it makes— it's about to make sense. So I ask— would you eliminate all humans to get rid of— we all agree littering is a bad thing— would you get rid of all humans to stop littering?

No.

You wouldn't. That doesn't mean that you're saying that littering is okay because you would preserve all of humans in this case. I— you saying that you would preserve all men doesn't mean that you're saying that essay is okay. That's not what we're asking. Simple— you're just— you're just saying that humans existing uh is more valuable than eliminating littering or eliminating essay. Both of you guys' examples that you use— which is chocolate and vanilla, and now you're comparing it to littering— is absolutely horrifying. Essay is a completely different— No, those are two— No, those are two different things. The chocolate and vanilla thing was to demonstrate how to answer an either/or question. The— the analogy he's using demonstrates that if you uh don't take some crazy measure to eliminate something— some sort of consequentialist uh consequentialist view where you just eliminate everything— um, for instance, if someone's a vegan and they're vegan because they don't like harming animals— well, the best thing to do if you want to eliminate all harm for animals is actually to eliminate all animals, right? Now, if a vegan says, "No, I'm not going to eliminate all animals; I'm going to work on reducing the existing harm on animals." Right? It doesn't follow that they support harming animals if they don't hit the elimination button. That's all we're trying to say.

Got it. I understand. Wait— question— um— question— uh, if we could— Are you pro-choice or pro-life?

Pro-choice.

A pro-choice Muslim? I didn't know. Okay. Um, okay, well, this won't really have— I was going to say— um, if we— if we could stop all abortion— wait, that's such a dumb— some people die because they can't get an abortion; it's like a medical need for some people. How about this— if— let's say we got rid of— um— all women who are uh pro-life— like you just deleted them— and then like the next election cycle— that would mean that if we got rid of conservative women— it would mean that there would just be— it would pretty much mean— uh— Democrats would just continue to win— they're pro-choice— uh, so if we eliminated all pro-life women so that you guys can maintain uh abortion rights, would you do it? If I say just go ahead— if you say go ahead— if I say yes, we'll eliminate all pro-life women just to keep pro-choice— that's also not— that's me killing off a— a good number of women— but then if I say we'll keep all pro-life women and get rid of pro-choice— that's also killing off a percentage of women, 'cause some people need to have abortions to live— but it's a medical need for some people— killing off the pro-choice women— it's just the pro-life women that you'd get rid of. I know— if I said that I would kill off the pro-life women, then that's a good portion of women that die, but then if I keep the pro-life women and get rid of pro-choice, some women also die because it's a medical need for some women to get an abortion.

Not killing pro-life women doesn't mean that abortion would go away. What— like— oh boy— your— your ability to get an abortion in a blue state would remain— Oh, no, I've lost what you just said. So how does this question is different than the other question that you— I still said I don't— I don't— I wouldn't decide. I just— I basically still—

You still can't decide.

Yes. I was saying if I choose to keep—

But you were leaning towards not killing— but when— I don't want to kill anyone.

Okay, there you go. So she doesn't want to kill anyone. Context is very important to you. So what if the context was always— you have to decide or the world's going to end or something— nukes are going to go off, but you have to decide— would that context—

Be helpful. Is there any context that would be like, super helpful? No? Okay. So if you… How about this: There’s a bullet, uh, there’s a gun to your head. If you don’t decide, you get popped. That’s a good one. If you don’t give out your yes and/or no answer, there would be… if you had to. So now, are you asking if she would sacrifice herself? That’s basically… not sacrifice herself, to have that… saving herself. That’s actually saving herself. That’s the opposite, not by actually enacting the thing necessarily, but simply by giving your opinion: yes in this, no in this hypothetical. Okay, explain it to me. In this hypothetical, you’re asking her whether… gun to her head, right? Gun to her head, if she wants to kill off one group of people over the other. I think at this point, I would just… if I was her, I would just be like… I would rather die. Cuz why? Why is you giving no choice? No! Oh my god, let me… Okay, how did she have here? Cuz he’s attacking me for whatever reason. She doesn’t have the power to see said thing through. The gun to the head is simply: if you don’t just state an answer, then you get the bullet. Exactly. So just to be clear, and you… you’re not actually changing anything; nothing actually happens. You’re just giving your opinion on something. Got it. You would rather take a bullet to the dome than just say… than just answer a question. I’m just confused, clearly. Why my life has to be at stake in the Senate… in the… Have you heard of a hypothetical? Why am I getting all the hypothetical? The reason… the reason we got to the gun to that is because it’s the only way we can get an answer from you that’s not true. On your… not actually working. That’s a good… even that doesn’t work. That doesn’t work. Yeah, it still doesn’t work. And the thing is, I’m answering the questions; I’m just not answering it the way you want me to, which is: Do you prefer red or blue? I ain’t prefer [__] orange… red. Yeah, but it’s like I gave you two… that answer doesn’t affect anyone’s life or leave anyone at risk, or no one dies. And the answer I just… Yeah, but if you answer any of the questions that we’ve asked you tonight that doesn’t have an impact either… it does on me, on my image. I don’t want to say anything wrong, bro. Whatever you’re doing right now… and also I feel bad, like… whatever you’re doing now, trust me, it looks worse than just… Okay, look. Well, since you’re just being stubborn or whatever, uh, I’m just going to assume you’re a sexist, then. Whatever. Okay, cool. Some Arabic or whatever… that’s… I don’t even know what that means, but literally like the name of the podcast… whatever. Okay, cool. Um, let me change it really quick. Uh, I’m assuming you’re just going to uh, struggle with this one too, or just be intentionally malicious, but let’s change the question from… let’s change it from black person or bear. Do you think that if somebody picks a bear over a black person that they’re racist? You should spice it up and say it depends. I literally would say… literally I don’t know… like another… I don’t know. And also I feel like you’re intentionally giving me more complicated questions and then getting more upset that I won’t answer the more complicated… It’s not complicated. Okay, it’s super simple. If a white person is like, “Oh, I would rather… I pick the bear over being in the forest with a black person,” would you think they’re racist? Wait, a black man… I would ask them why. It’s random. So the person is like… it wouldn’t matter if it’s a black man or a black woman, I’d still pick the bear, and I’d understand you. But would you think they’re… sure you understand… would you think they’re racist? No, I’d ask why. I’d ask why because I was victimized by a black person. Well, then I’d say that… depending… depending on the race… well you said white person is saying this, so then yes, I’d be like, “Okay, well then you’re generalizing all black people.” What? That’s literally what you’re doing with men. How exactly? What? That’s exactly what you’re doing with men. That’s exactly your reasoning with men. You said… “No, I said I don’t feel comfortable.” Yeah, yeah. What if a white… I don’t feel comfortable. I’m not… I’m not saying that all men would rape me because… Sorry, just say… I’m not saying that all men would essay me. I’m saying I don’t feel comfortable, so I’m holding it back on how I feel about that. Well, you’re saying you’re more comfortable with a wild beast than with a… a man, but the way you come to that conclusion is a generalization, correct? No, it’s… I’m flipping it on me and I’m saying I don’t feel comfortable. Yeah, you don’t… I’m not looking at a man and being like, “Oh, he’s…” Look, I know you don’t feel comfortable. I’m… I’m going before that… how you came to the conclusion that you’re not comfortable is… you have… that’s a generalization. You have to… you’re taking from particular things that happened to me… yeah, and you’re making a general statement, right? And that’s exactly why I said you’re coming from anger towards men. That’s how you generalize. And in… in your head when it… Why are you using the word anger? Because I think that’s weird. I’m not angry at all. It is… it… it has to be uncomfortable source… yeah, but the source of that is fear, and then anger, and resentment, and… ally has the same… the same kind of negative feeling towards men… a negative feeling. And I’m kind of offended actually that you’re using the word anger because I think that as women of color, black women specifically, they’re always viewed as angry, and I’m not angry; I’m uncomfortable. And you said negative feelings… those negative feelings all have different statuses… different emotions… listen, this… you can’t generalize anger. I’m not angry at all; I’m uncomfortable. You generalized men… No, I did not generalize women. I flipped it on me and said what I’m comfortable with and what I’m uncomfortable with. I didn’t say all men would do that to me. That’s not… But… but that’s your core belief when you… when you pick a bear instead of me… my core belief is based on me… not me saying that all men would… care about the base of it… you… That’s the base… no, your core… if you’re going to debate with me, your core belief is picking a bear over a man, period, end of the story. My core belief is that I’m uncomfortable being alone… wild bear that could kill you over a man because deep down you believe men are worse than wild animals. What if she just feels that way about just people in general? No, we… we actually… the question was a man and not just people. Yeah, but I have another question. If you got to know… even how many minutes to get to know somebody, in this case a man, on the… on the path, would then you determine you’d rather be with him than a bear? Is there like a… you think there’s like maybe a threshold at which you… you decided, oh, okay, I trust this person? No, I don’t think there’s a threshold. It’s just a… still the bear, no matter what. It’s just the uncom… it’s just the discomfort of being alone. Okay. Do you have a brother? I do. Do you have a father? I do. Okay, so let’s take your father. You would choose the bear to be alone on the path with… with your… you’d be alone on a… on a path with your… with a bear, and you would choose the bear over your own father? No, I choose my father. But why? Because I know my father. Okay, so that’s what I’m asking: is there a threshold where you learn that the… the person earns the trust, in this case a man? What’s the thresh… threshold at which the man earns your trust such that you’ll pick him over the bear? Um, probably a few days… weeks… months. How much money does he have to make? I’m just kidding. Um, well, that’s what I’m asking. It really… this question comes down to trust and knowing people, and what we’re… what the initial question is asking people to generalize. It’s actually forcing a generalization, but it is wild because if you look at it reasonably, it’s… especially with… with the second hypothetical where you actually encounter a bear and now you’re in danger, who do you choose? You said a man, right? And I… I disagree with you. I don’t think it’s forcing you to generalize because you’re still asking me, and you asked me why, and then I brought up a personal experience of mine, so it’s based on… it’s subjective. It’s based on what I went through, that’s why I answered it the way I did, right? But the… because someone like your dad exists that you would… is it fair to say there’s people like your dad? There are people like your dad. Sure. Okay, so… um, if there are people like your dad… you know, you’re hedging your bet that there’s less people like your dad that are kind… that aren’t going to do this terrible thing to you, right? You’re actually assuming that there’s more people who would hurt you than less. Yes. Why would you assume that? I’m not assuming that. I’m choosing a safer option that is… regardless of whether they would hurt me or not. Okay, that is… choosing that… like, for instance, if the… if it’s not the general question of a man or a bear… if there’s a collection of men… there’s a hundred men, and you don’t know which man you’re going to get… mhm… like let’s say that it’s 100 people, you just have no idea which man you’re going to get, but you know there’s… there’s men like your father in there… if we ask you bear or man, your… your… your choice is still assuming the worst of the collection of men… that the… you’re assuming the… the statistics that your bet… right? You’re making a bet… your bet is on that you’re going to get hurt if you choose the man, and you’re risking getting hurt with the bear… you already know is a high likelihood of… of being hurt by the bear. I disagree with this because a generalization would be me saying right now that everybody at this table, as a woman, should have chose the bear because all men are dangerous in some way, but that’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying I’m more uncomfortable with being on a pathway alone with a male than an animal. That’s what I’m saying for me. But… but there are people at this table that said they’d be more comfortable with a man on the pathway. Okay, cool. Why? Because they have their own personal experiences. So it’s not generalized. It’s… Well, no, there’s a way to take their personal experience and see if it maps onto reality, and to take your personal experience and see if it maps onto reality. That’s exactly… that’s what I’m saying. So like… I… it doesn’t match onto reality because I’m subjective… like you’re admitting that your own… I know, but you’re admitting that your own experience is inconsistent with general reality… that most men actually… that’s why when you asked… it could be… that’s why when you asked me about the percentage, I didn’t want to give a percentage because I don’t know the percentage. It could be a small group of men are capable of essay versus a large group of men. Well, that’s why I use the elevator uh, example because that… the elevator example demonstrates that… a million times a day, more than that… I don’t… I couldn’t even put a number on it… everywhere around the world there’s a man who gets in the elevator with a woman, and more of the times that happens, by a lot, the man doesn’t harm or even threaten the woman. Okay, but if you swap the man in the elevator with a bear, what do you think the percent difference is going to be with harm… with someone being hurt? I don’t like the elevator… I don’t… because it’s… it’s a freaking enclosed room versus the woods… like… what do you eat dinner? And if so, how do you decide what to eat? Don’t compare essay to dinner. We’re comparing essay to dinner, and I’m talking about your indecision… the pattern of your indecision. I’m not talking about… Just because I have an indecision to these complex… complicated questions that also have emotional reasons behind them doesn’t mean I have… I’m indecisive in my regular existence. Understandable. Okay. Okay, but you agree that you’re a sexist? I’m not a sexist. I mean, you kind of are, though… against men… kind of are. I’m not… I mean, you’d rather be with a wild animal than alone with a man. It’s kind of a sexist statement. No, it’s just… I’m more comfortable with that. That doesn’t mean that I think all men are capable of essay. Yeah. What percentage? I don’t know. She doesn’t know. But I mean, you weren’t even able to definitively say if you would save the entire uh, population of males in this… in the hypothetical. I’m… I’m lost. I’m over… what the hypothetical was. Okay. If you could stop essay, but it meant you had to just get rid of all men, would you do it? And you didn’t give a yes or a no, correct? I did not. Right. The effect… the… the fact that you don’t give an immediate knee-jerk no, I’m not going to delete 4 billion people or whatever how much it is… it’s pretty crazy. Well, that also sounds like you’re like attacking the people that didn’t choose the answer that makes more sense to you as well… the people who wanted to delete the four billion people. Wait, can you repeat… repeat that one more time. If… if you’re getting upset… are you upset? Is that the right word? Uh, yeah, I would… The fact… sure. I mean, I… I’ll put it like this: The fact that you are essentially unwilling to save… like… give an affirmative that you would save 4 billion men, but the entailment is… well, this crime that can… has to… like… the… the fact that you won’t give an affirmative on… I want to save 4 billion people… yeah, that’s pretty… so would you debate… that’s pretty damning. That’s pretty damning. So would you debate with a person that definitively made the… the decision to eliminate the four billion people to get rid of essay? Would you be attacking them like you are me? I would be attacking them worse. But your refusal to answer the question points to the same answer. No, it doesn’t. I… It’s… It’s… You don’t know what I would choose, so why don’t you just save us a bunch of time and make things really simple: which one do you choose? Or we could just move on to the next question, or you could just answer the question. I’m so confused. I have answered the question; you just didn’t like my answer. I have another one: man or man… like… what? She just… is still going to choose the bear. That’s her… what is it? Man or man-bear-pig from South Park? And also, even when I did make a decision, I were debating about the decision I made, which was the bear. No, but you didn’t… Okay, here, I’ll ask you a different question. It’s like… if I answer it or if I don’t answer, you’re still attacking me. I’m so confused. I’ll give you a [__] preamble and make the question… I don’t need you to give me a preamble. Here, in this question… I… There’s only two options. There’s only two options. So in order to get rid… portion one… in order to get rid of essay, you can do so, but you have to uh, delete all men from the planet; or two, you keep all men, but the current reality of some women are essayed by some men that would remain. Which do you pick of the two? I don’t understand why you’re repeating the question. That was the question originally, but I’m giving you only two. If you had to pick between one of those options… does someone want to answer for me so we can move on? Nobody can answer for you. I would keep things the same. Okay. I’m make… I’m going to make it really simple for you. If you had to pick one or the other, which would it be? One is… you know what’s interesting is none of the women are calling you out on your [__] [__]. This is what I call the sister… no woman here is calling you out on your [__] ridiculous little [__]. She did. I’ll give her a little bit… I’ve been trying because it makes no sense to me, and I said that… literally incoherent. It’s incoherent. I’ve refined the question where the answer you have to give is one or the other, so pick one. I just wouldn’t… listen to… You’re trolling. You literally signed an agreement. I’m not trolling at all. Yeah, you are. No, I’m not. This is really genuinely how I feel, and I… I actually feel like uncomfortable cuz I’m… I’m genuinely answering the questions that I… the way that I want to answer the question. So I’m not trolling. This is genuinely how I feel, so I’m a bit thrown off right now, and I… I… I don’t know if you’re being serious or not. I’ll repeat it: So you have to pick one of the two. You don’t have to repeat it like I… Are you being serious? Like what’s… what’s happening right now? You have to pick one of the… one of the two… answer the question. I did answer it already. No, you didn’t. No, you just didn’t like my answer. Are we being… No, cool. You… But you said, “Well, I wish essay…” Your answer was, “I wish essay just didn’t exist.” The question is if you had to pick one of… Okay, do I have to [__] draw this [__] here? You already repeated multiple… multiple-choice question… thought he was going to draw a bear. We might need a Venn diagram. Okay, so you know how there’s like… there’s two options here, sometimes there’s four, right? So I’m going to hold that up… I don’t know… hold on, let me put it… all right… multiple-choice question… my [__] penmanship is dog [__]. You see how there’s those four? I don’t know… here it’s one, two, three, four. Okay, and then I’m going to just check mark three, right? Check mark three. I can’t just… in the middle… I can’t just write five. I can’t just add in five. That’s what you’re doing. It’s a multiple-choice question; pick one. You’re making me really uncomfortable, and as someone who’s been essayed… that’s why I don’t feel comfortable choosing between one or two of the answers, so I said I didn’t feel comfortable. If you could take back… I’m so lost, and I… I’m… I’m lost. I’m… cuz I’m participating in your podcast, and I thought I was adding great conversation, but instead you’re attacking me because you… serious… you refused to answer a question, and I think you’re honestly trolling. I’m not… Well, lucky… I’m not trolling. I’m not trolling. I’ve been completely honest about who I am and my opinion since I got here. Do you know what a multiple-choice question is? I do. Okay, so there’s two options, right? Uh-huh. If you’re… you ever taken a multiple-choice test? Yes, I have. Okay. Can you just write in like a different answer? No, you cannot. That’s why I didn’t answer it in the first place. Yeah, but… so you… now have to answer… you can’t force someone to answer a question. I guess I can’t. Yeah, I can’t force… What is happening? You could have moved on, but you didn’t… give a [__] answer, lady. You didn’t give an answer. You’re claiming you gave an answer, but you didn’t. No, I didn’t claim I got gave an answer. I… You literally just said you gave an answer. No, you… Okay, you… One would depopulate the entire human race. I… I’m… I’m… Did she give an answer, Jim Bob? No, she gave a third answer, but she did give an answer when I brought up… well, what if it was your dad? And you said, I would choose my dad. And so we were trying to get to the bottom of… okay, if your generalization about men is given by your experience… you don’t generalize your own dad given your experience, so what’s the difference? And you said you’d know your dad, right? But if we told you that statistically uh, it’s not the case that… that the… the highest percentage of men that exist are aggressors, so we’re… what we’re telling you is that your failure to answer is… what I’m seeing here is your failure to answer is given by your experience… your… your instinct is say, no… man… scary… bad… they could hurt me, right? So that’s fair. If I… if I give you that and I say, okay, you’re from your experience… you’re reserved about being alone with men… we understand that, but not all men… so your dad’s not included, right? There’s probably other people you know that are men. So we’re trying to get to the bottom of… okay, well, what is your impulse to say… man versus the bear… pick the man… is it justified? What we’re telling you is… it’s not… it doesn’t actually comport with reality, but you’re holding on to your experience as the arbiter. Does that make sense? Because you asked me about what I would choose… yeah, it got to… Well, it got to… But I… I’d really like if we could move on cuz I’m starting to get uncomfortable. I’m uncomfortable that you won’t answer the question. Okay, well, what… it got to the point where Brian was asking… okay, well, how far would you go to eliminate us a… and it seems a… fa… these… by the way, these kind of hypotheticals come up all the time to test people’s logic, so it’s not like you particular… it’s anybody… well, it is in particular because there’s other people’s… That’s right, but other people waiting to answer the question and have conversations with you guys… pointing it… yeah, but they’re… you’re the only one who couldn’t answer the question. Why is that? I mean, you’re also not giving everyone the same questions to answer… you guys… you guys gave me so many hypotheticals… we already answered that question, that’s why. And it made sense because… I’m glad you think you make sense. That’s perfectly fine. I think I make sense too. So we said… of course you… you… you think… but of course you all think you make sense too. So everyone thinks they make sense. A non-answer is not an answer. I’m not going to accept some logic that you have to base your answers to that logic… all men are bad. And I didn’t say that [__]. Right? Straight up [__]… didn’t say that. I can’t say… I would… don’t repeat things. Don’t… Don’t say things I didn’t say. I didn’t say all men are bad. You said exactly that. You say… No, I didn’t. I would eliminate all men. I didn’t say that. I said that… What are you… Are you confused? Just stop. That’s exactly what’s happening. Just stop. Let me take care of this. A non-answer is not an answer. I gave you an A or a B question. Okay? I gave you… if you had to pick between two things, and you’re saying I don’t like this component of the question… you pick A or you pick B. If you had to… if you had to pick one, which is it? If you had to pick one… like on a mass scale… if you think about it as like a mass scale… I don’t need you guys to tell me… I understand… guys… guys… guys… just allow silence until she answers… what? Don’t just answer the question. That’s really weird. Just like… Yeah, what is happening right now? Like I… I thought that… Yeah, you can keep… or you could just answer the question. You’re being extremely disrespectful. You’re being disrespectful. I’m not being disrespectful. I… all of the conver… no, you haven’t. You’re [__] late. You’re super rude. If we want to talk about rudeness… apologize for being late. I drove from LA to be here. Didn’t apologize to me. So anyways… I did, when I walked in. I said, “I’m so sorry that I was late.” Do you want to answer the question? I… And don’t just say [__] on the podcast for the sake of the podcast. I wasn’t rude to you. I apologize to both you and… Yeah, cool. Do you want to answer the question? I feel uncomfortable. What is this called? Offiscation or whatever… is this uh… rage quit? Okay, cool. I think that’s a… a rage quit there. Well, uh… hey, you know… yeah, you got… N… you got to leave. You just got to leave. You just got to leave. I’m… I’m going to leave. Yeah, but you’re… Nah, you got to leave the studio. You just got to leave. Hold on… what? What’s she asking, Mary? What is she asking? No, just say it… just say it… like how she’s saying… Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, you just got to leave. Nah… adios. Yeah. Yep. Go for it. Well, uh… rage quit, I guess. Uh… oh, wait, hold on… sweet. Okay, here’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to have… I’m going to…

Have you take that seat? Okay, I got you. And then just stay there. That's fine. Sounds good. All right. Uh, okay guys, hold on. Oh wait. Oh my goodness. I don't I don't understand. I don't understand what's lost. I don't understand what's lost by answering the question, even if it even was a wrong answer. Who like I don't understand what the hill to die on was. I I guess like let's let's assume she she did have an answer to the question. It was either uh she would not get rid of all men, and it's just the so it' just be the current status quo.

Mhm. Or she has to eliminate all the men. Like I don't understand. Does it does that her her refusal to answer it, does that mean that she would kill all men to prevent this particular crime from happening? Is that eugenics or what is what is? Yeah, basically yeah. I mean, not it's like uh it's just like a utilitarian, you know, approach. And then and by extension, wouldn't this be the end of the species? Because I think she's just scared of sounding like she supports SA, but we already granted to her it doesn't mean that at all. I think she just didn't want to change her answer no matter what. She just predetermined how she wants to answer it, and and she did, and she just didn't want to change that for the sake of even argument, and it's to me made no sense.

Yes. Well, it's just being a stubborn. Now we can I mean it's good that she left because now we can actually get back to the show and get through some of the other stuff. Uh, okay, we have uh wait, she's sending in. Is she? Wait, hold on. Oh no, I've been essay tw. No, this isn't her, and I can tell you I'd keep men around. Could have answered it directly. Ridiculous, dude. Yeah, totally. Well put, Aaliyah. Uh, okay, we have some messages coming through, guys. Give me just a moment. We have Ben here. I apologize to chair one, the [ __ ] Muslim who doesn't understand the hypothetical, is Becky da da da l's in the chat. Uh, De's Nates, no woman has trashy tattoos like that and still has her VC card. I think this is directed to you, Tiffany. Born again doesn't count lol. She claims to want two kids but will remind her children every day of their undesirable nose with her surgery. What? Not top 1% just average mildly attractive Asian woman. Why did you put a star there? Do you want to respond, Tiffany?

I'm not born again. Um, my tattoos aren't that trashy compared to other tattoos some women get. And then at least he said you're mildly attractive, that was like a bonus at the end. Yeah, that's that's a compliment. I guess it's a big deal for these chats. Tried hard to say that. Okay, we have um Thank you, Dnades, for your soup chat. And then we have Libertaria Prime. I'm so nervous that chair 2 will sneeze and chair chair three will have to stick in her hair. What? Brixen is a brave man. That the true black and white cookie of whatever would have rather made it via Streamlabs, but apparently the Janies blocked me from it in addition to the Discord. Not sure, Libertari. I don't think you're blocked on Streamlabs, but if you send me a DM I can try to resolve. I don't know, were you send? Maybe you sent in some troll [ __ ] or some toos [ __ ] possibly. I don't know on Streamlabs, but sometimes some people get banned or whatever. Uh, okay, here we we did the gender swap right. I'm pretty sure. Okay, bro, that was crazy. I don't know. I'm so I'm really uh I'm shocked that her first marriage didn't work out. I don't know why that would have happened. Um, okay, let's see here. Uh, okay, one sec guys. Uh, here we're going to get back to some of the pre-show notes. One sec. Okay, we did Sammy. We did uh uh Oh, I didn't do the Muslim girl's notes, but what's her name? Sarah. She's legally married to someone who won't divorce her. Okay, I don't know. There's nothing else there. Uh, here, going to Naz Nazanin. Did I say that right? Uh, oh, apparently we've had you scheduled on the show before, but then you said you're Iranian and a war just broke between my country and Israel. I was really looking forward to coming on the show, but I need to be able to focus and feel better. It was remember what happened? The Is there a war? No, it was um there was a an attack. It was an attack. It was just we we were just sitting and waiting for it to become a war because it was just um the first time ever that Iran basically threw uh those missiles, like I think it was hundreds of missiles to Israel. Nothing happened, thank God, but that just was the first time that that happened, and I was just like I can't focus on anything else. It's just way too big, terrible because my parents live in Iran. Everybody Everybody lives in Iran, and I and I couldn't just sit there and talk about dating when that was happening in the background.

Yeah. Okay. Uh, Christopher Murphy with the $200 super chat. Thank you so much, Christopher [ __ ]. Finally, thank god chair three is out. Um, I I've never encountered that man. I don't know. Usually you're like "If you It simply goes like this." Uh, but if you had to pick one, which would you pick? And then they just answer it like it it didn't have to be that complicated. But um yeah, I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. I don't know how she made it this far. I think she wanted decisions. I think she wanted to kill men. That's what she wanted. That's why I said you're coming from anger, you're coming from fear. That's the resentment toward all men. Like for you to immediately think, okay, that man should be a bad man, so bear it, is that says a lot about how you think about men. And she's like, no, that's my experience. And I was like, yeah, that's in your in your head. This is how you see men. Yep. Yet at the same time, you're okay with um some sort of stuff that you put out there which would somehow bring the make it make the make the chance of being subjected to those problems higher. You know what, Jim Bob, tell me if this is a good comparison. It would be like if we were someone asked us, well, if we could get rid of all women to stop uh the mur abortions the murder. I mean, maybe she wouldn't view it that way, but if like by our worldview it's like, okay, if abortion is murder, you're murdering an unborn baby, an unborn child. We would both be like, no, no, we're not. That's ridiculous. Even something more subtle like um eliminate marriage because uh there's some sort of situation where women run uh you know, they run free with all the money after the divorce or something. Some horrific like that's in favor of them. Anything that that makes this like sweeping um remedy that's that brutal. I mean, there wasn't it was not a hard question to answer. Even the the other gals answered it quite quickly. There. No, I would never eliminate everybody. Would you? I would. Yeah. Oh, you would. You would eliminate everybody. Oh yeah, for sure. I think it definitely insinuates the word you don't answer. Wait, so you would eliminate everybody to stop anything uh to stop like like you you guys said, would you stop um well, I mean, that's SA. What about like theft? Theft probably not. I mean, I don't give a [ __ ] about that, right? But essay stuff that actually matters. Like Yeah, no, dude. So you would get rid of four you'd delete four billion men. I would if I had the opportunity to just delete every person off this earth, I would. Oh, okay. FBI, open up. Who laughs after saying that's a clip. Um, wait, so that's like that's like a version of her thing. You just have it about humanity. She just had it about men. I don't think she feels that way about men. That's why she's have that she was having a hard time answering it. But why do you feel that way about humanity though? For me personally, I just feel like I've seen the worst in majority of people. Have you seen the best? Uh, no, not really. No. Wait, you've not seen good in people? No, not really. No. People don't show me their their good side for the most part. So really, yeah. For you that look good in yourself. I mean, yeah. But at this point, don't you like the majority of people aren't you a tree essayer? I mean, have you considered kissing my hand and then putting it against you? No consent. I mean, the tree didn't give you consent. Yeah, you don't know that. You don't know that. Have you? What if? What if we do? But if it's like if it's if it's growing towards me, it must be right. Wait a second. Wait a second. Other things can grow towards you, and that can be involuntary. So I don't know if that's a good system for you, but for like plants and stuff, it's a whole different thing. It's a whole different system. Wait, can we get a TTS from like maybe redwoods or um cedar cedar tree? Uh, what what's like a what's Canadian hemlock or some [ __ ] Uh, I think that's a type of wood or a tree or something. Can we get um maybe Can you tell us if you consented to her her kissing the We got We got Alla sending chats. We're going to get different types of trees. Going to get some trees. Can we get some uh what what are the the stuff that's so cute like the little roots and stuff? Oh, Groot, dude. Yeah, that would be so cute. Do it please. What's your What's your preferred terrain in Minecraft? Hm. What's your preferred terrain in Minecraft? Uh, you messed up by thinking I play Minecraft. Maybe like a maple tree. Chestnut chestnut tree. Lately, I've been like into like junipers and probably walnuts, but I love that for you. Yeah, very niche sleigh queen. But I mean, for the most part, I'm into mushrooms right now. I think they're beautiful. That's beautiful. I love that for you. Um, trees uh let's see here. Notes uh we have Val uh tell us your catfish story. Oh my god, you can just read it out loud because I wrote it really well. Okay, fine. Um, you said that you were catfished in 2010. Your older sister, her boyfriend, and you agreed to meet the man of the hour at a movie theater. You were 16 at the time, and he had just turned 18. He was a solid 300 lb at least, all blubber. You were honestly impressed that he was able to crop all of it out on Facebook. You went on the date, but you were too naive to realize that you that you had absolutely no reason to feel bad for him due to your own apparent prediliction for massochism. You proceeded to invite him back to your house. You ended up in the backyard where eventually he broke your mother's lawn chair in front of all your cherished loved ones. Apparently humiliating you with his optical falsehoods wasn't enough, which you frankly still find to be quite unfair. Moral of the story: sympathy is hell's favorite pavement material. Yep. And then I said all blubber baby, not just all blubber. Oh, all blubber, excuse me. All blubber baby. All right, that was cool. That was the only thing. And uh let's see here. Oh uh you said how to leave an abusive relationship. You had some advice. Oh yeah, so I basically dated a guy that was a mean girl, and it was like he would just say backhanded things to me all the time. And obviously that could easily wear you down. I feel like a lot of guys do that. So what I did was anytime he gave me something, if I found any truth in it, I would take it, and I would change it. And by the time I was ready to leave that relationship, I was fully healed, way better person than I already was. Um, yeah, I feel like that's it just helped me a lot, and I feel like that's just good advice if people are in like I don't know like mentally or emotionally abusive relationships. I feel like that's the one solution that worked for me. What? What um what were you doing to him that was abusive? I wasn't doing anything. Oh, okay. Sorry, I thought you said you were in an abusive relationship, so I thought you might have been the abuser. No. Did? Did you hit him? No, no. Um, that was a financial that was a reasonable question. Um, no, he was just a mean girl. Oh, he was a mean girl. What was he doing? Mean girl. He would just say like like I'll give you an example. We're in the grocery store and it's crowded, so I make sure to stay out of everybody's way, and then we'll get in the car and we'll be like "You're in everybody's way. Like just make you just make me feel incompetent over time." It got to the point where a few years into our relationship, I felt like if I didn't have him, I'd be homeless on the street. Wait, but hold on. So I I feel like Wait wait hold on hold on. So didn't I wasn't my question "What did he do that was abusive?" And your first example was you went to a grocery store and you you yourself were like "Oh, I don't want to be in people's way." And then he said "No, whoa, you really got in people's way." That's the first example you give when I ask if how you were abused. No, what I said was this is an example of like what he would do. What? Hold on, let's explore that thing you just described though. Is that abusive? So him saying you got in people's condescending if if Yeah, I don't think condescension is abusive. If we were in the store and you were making sure to stay out of everybody's way, and then we left and I was like, you were literally in everybody's way the whole time. Was he saying it as a joke? No. So he was getting on your case. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of weird, but I don't think that's abusive. It's like death by a thousand cuts. It gets sold and well, okay. Hold on, he's annoying. One off. Yeah, I don't think being annoying or a jerk is abusive. I feel like over time if it's intentional, I feel like it can definitely be mentally abusive. So So wait, he was like, whoa, you really got in pe Well, did you get in somebody's way? No, I literally that's what she's saying. She didn't. You know, that's just an example, but it's like I mean, you kind of seem like someone who gets in people's way though. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm totally kidding. Yeah, I'm pretty I'm pretty [ __ ] abuser. Oh my god, I'm pretty burly. Wait, did you uh like these little like little pecks? It sounds like there's a bunch of pecks at you, right? Yeah, I just So wait, do you did you do you say things back? Like I actually didn't for a long time. I was just like "So he doesn't even know that it's bothering you." Well, at first, cuz I just thought something was wrong with me. There's another time where Well, that's not Wait, he might have been a jerk, but that's you thinking. When women think something's wrong with them, that's actually not a good excuse to make it about the the person. Cuz let's say it's not a dude, let's say it's your friend. If you don't say it if you don't say "I don't [ __ ] do that." Yeah, you know, like what if they just don't know? Like No, I agree with that. So so what's like the you know, the threshold? Because you're saying it's abusive, but it sounds like you're abusing yourself by not just saying something. Yeah, and then it just adds to it cuz it's just like you're stupid basically. And I remember one time after work, I cleaned the entire kitchen. I redecorated it, whatever. And then he came home. I was so excited, and in the back of my mind, I was like, I know he's gonna [ __ ] ruin this. M. And he came home, and I was like, "Hey, like I have a surprise." And he was like, "What? You clean the kitchen?" You know what I mean? Hold on. Wait wait wait wait. He was like "Isn't that obvious?" Yeah. Were you were working at the time? Yeah, I worked full time. Did you you guys shared uh you guys were living together, right? Okay. Um, were you guys splitting the bills 50/50? Okay. And so what did he say exactly? He said he just didn't give a [ __ ]. Wait, hold on. He didn't. So what h Can you be more precise in what happened? Yeah, so say you No, tell us what happened, like what actually happened. Sure. You cleaned the whole apartment. Well, no, I cleaned So our kitchen like I redecorated it. I cleaned every little [ __ ] like crevice of the kitchen, and I was really excited about it, and I knew in the back of my mind when he came home and I told him like if I got excited, it would just be like stupid. Um, so yeah, like when he came home and I was super excited, he just was like "Who gives a shit?" Basically. No, no, no, not basically. What did he do? He said he came in and he was like I was like super excited and I I told him I have a surprise for you, and he was just like "What? You clean the kitchen?" And I was like like at least it just sucks because if somebody does something for you, you could at least entertain the thought of like appreciation. I mean, I understand uh but I mean, I'm not entitled to anything. It's not abuse, but I mean, over time if it's deliberate. Over time. That's what you're choosing to stay with him though. Wait, but I agree. I agree. Sorry. Sorry. Is it Is it possible that you didn't clean that well? Possible. I tried my best. At least I tried my best though, you know that deserves something. She laughed. She's a comedian. That deserves something. How lighthearted she is. Look at her eyes. I'm very jovial. Hold on. All right, that was Look. Um, so it's like it's kind of Wait, did you have you did you ever get a haircut and he came home and he didn't say anything? He didn't notice that you got a haircut? Is that abusive? No, he was constantly up my ass too. So it's like he was constantly on my ass. I couldn't really do anything. That's a whole different thing. Here's the thing. I feel like when you lead with my ex-boyfriend was abusive, that's a little dramatic. You're thinking his soul. No, that's what you literally said. I know. Wait, hold on. No, I'm not accusing you of being dramatic. I'm saying what I said was dramatic. I'm saying abuse. That's what we're trying to focus on. Like, do you real are you being super hyperbolic then? Wait, how do you be How can you be hyperbolic though about I feel like abuse was a dramatic term for me to use for me to choose. I'm not saying that you're saying no, but in the pre like this wasn't just some sort of like accidental slip of the tongue. In your pre-show notes, you're like uh how to get out of a how to leave an abusive relationship. You have advice, and you're now talking about this guy who said that you got in people's way at the grocery store, whether you did or not, whatever. Let's say you didn't even. And then you cleaned the kitchen, and he didn't acknowledge. I'm sorry, that's not abuse. That's not abuse. Maybe he's a jerk. Build up and make you feel incompetent and stupid. So it is kind of abusive to her on a consistent basis. Her personality. It it is on a consistent basis. The way the way she would take it is personal. So why do why do we have to coddle because at the end of the day, I mean, the fact that he probably had no idea what his words are so affecting her in a very negative way. Put it on the ground. Wait, why why isn't Oh, look look look. If she doesn't say something is very clear with something like you know, stop doing that, that doesn't work for me. Like a man could just as well using your standard say that's abuse and be like, it's abuse for you to let this all build up against me and not say anything. I mean, I wouldn't say that. I'm not going to defend that. Said something. I be confronted him about. So eventually he was like, you know, obviously he was like, I can't read your mind. So I would start saying things like that, and then you know, things wouldn't change with him, but whatever. Like I that's why I wanted to bring it up because a lot of people deal with that [ __ ]. It doesn't have to be your significant other. It could be somebody around you that's just constantly knocking you down. But if you find the truth in what they're saying, why am I insulted by that? Um, you can change it, and then you can become a better person. And by the time you're a better person, you don't even want to be around that person anymore. Does that make sense? Well, now you're just going to know if you know earlier on with people like Yeah, but but again, I agree with Brian. I wouldn't say that's abuse. I think that's you know, I hate to shift it all on you, but I think the toleration of things is actually self like you. I don't wouldn't call it abuse, but if you're going to call that thing abuse, I would just say that's self that's like self-inflicted abuse really. And I feel like people take advantage of that. Um, not that it's it's still your problem at the end of the day, and that's what I meant by everything I just said is you do have the power. Like if somebody's doing that, you can change it. It is basically and just how to it is abuse. This is literally like if she says "Hey, I don't like this, please stop. You keep doing it." And you keep harassing her with those same like behaviors. That is abuse. Well, there's a form of abuse. Just to be clear. Hold on. So just to be clear, one of the examples she gave when I asked her to give me a better example of the supposed and alleged abuse was "I cleaned the kitchen, my boyfriend came home, and he did not to a satisfactory degree." They do that on purpose. They do that on purpose to make you uh let's get let's go back down to reality. A boyfriend not acknowledging that you cleaned the shared living space, that's not abuse. Maybe I'll accept it's inconsiderate. Maybe I don't I actually don't think it's even but she said that it's also on so many other levels that this is happening. Yeah, like it's like like it's not just like her Yeah, but your standard your standard for abuse is super low. Like you said uh doing something and someone asks you to stop and you keep doing it. I crop dust my wife over and over again. She says stop. What does that mean? She told me to stop. Talk to me like I'm drunk for a second. I fart. Explain. And I trap her. Okay, so you don't have any responsibility. No, no. I will not stop. Okay. Well, is that abuse? Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah. Cuz you know, she won't leave you. Like I have her all the time. I'm going to be honest with you. Like I'm going to come on here and be honest with you. I like to say a lot of like weird slurs or whatever sometimes. You know what I mean? And I use that against my men, and they tell me all the time like "Hey, stop like this makes me you know uncomfortable blah blah blah this that and the other. And it's like something that I just do. And I understand that it's abusive in their head because they don't like it. They don't ask me to stop, but you keep doing it, right? Sometimes it just slips out. But if I feel like it's too disrespectful, like the other day I called one of my dudes like the B-word, and he was like "Wo." And I was like "Yeah, no, dude, I'm sorry. Can I but like even to this point, it is abusive. I don't want to know what the P word. It is abusive. It's It's degrading. Wait, patch. Wait, that's probably okay. We try to avoid it, but it's probably fine. No, no, no, no, you're Wait, what were you saying? Yeah, I mean, I think there's a form of it that it could be verbal, but I wouldn't go to the extent and say it's just straight abuse. Kind of like you said, it makes your standard low. Cuz what does that make other people's situations? Like I used to get like beat the [

] out of dude like that's abuse you know like someone could be mean to you and be inconsiderate, not think about how you're feeling, whatever, but that's kind of just mean, you know. I wouldn't say it's abuse. Like verbal abuse is one thing, but in a different—are you saying you ain't seen [ __ ]? Yeah, that's—I guess you don't know that, you know what this reminds me of? Harassment is still abusive regardless; it's just annoying, you know. It's still abusive. I I think being—I think being annoying or being inconsiderate, uh, I don't think these are good things, but I don't think it's popping up outside the door like every day. You're not saying that that's abusive; that's scary, right? No, harassment is illegal; that's harassment, that's illegal. That's—It doesn't matter if it's still—No, no, no, you don't go to court and people—some people don't give a [ __ ] about—when did we—when did we even forward the position that it's acceptable to like stalk somebody? We never said that. You guys are sitting here saying harassment is abuse. No, does the judge—does the judge say, "And we order you," you know, uh, "this fine or this jail time for abuse," or harassment is the same thing? What are you talking about? No, no, there's certain activities, and you call them harassment, right? It's not—you don't let there—it's—it's like harassment still is another way of saying abusive actions. Well, you're—you're violating something. No, you're violating something. Abuse. No, no, no, you could do legal abuse, right? From your perspective, legal. Okay, so do it all the time. So the thing that makes uh harassment a thing is that it's a legal—it's a legal problem, okay, but uh you can harass people online, and like you're going to have to find this—this threshold of when something's abusive or not. And she's telling you you're really diminishing what abuse actually is for other people.

I hear what you're saying, and I'm sorry if it comes off to you that way, cuz I'm not saying whatever; I'm just trying to make it clear: abuse is assault, abuse is putting hands on someone, abuse is hurting someone else physically. Abuse is not annoying somebody and pissing them off; it's hitting somebody, dude; it's hurting them, it's trapping them, like I, you know, there's so much [ __ ]; it's crazy, you know. You're calling being outside somebody's room a [ __ ] abusive; it's crazy, really. Yeah, no, a lot of times whenever people are that crazy to actually continue to give you a reaction or whatever, or try to force you to have a reaction or whatever, they're—it—it's because they're trying to hurt you in some—in some sort of way, whether it's physical, mental, whatever, like that's part of like cults and stuff like that; they're literally doing abusive [ __ ] to you to get you into the cult, so like make it—make sense to me. Wait, hold on, so okay, people showing up at your place of residence uninvited, you ask them to leave, they keep coming back—that's abusive. Yes. Yeah, that's—that's harassment. Harassment, right? It's a spectrum, right? So it's on—still the thing of abuse. We agree with you; we agree with you, but the example she provided where the boyfriend didn't acknowledge her cleaning and maybe was just like—that's not abuse, or [ __ ] communication. I just don't think that she wants to devolve into like actually stuff that happens to her if it triggers her, but something like that—like I can understand her boyfriend, but the relationship long term was abusive to her. I have asked you to change; I'm not granting that; I'm not—I'm not granting that, Tiffany. Sorry, she—The only way that comes to my mind is when she—she started thinking that he's doing this on purpose to hurt her feeling, to be able to have control over her—m, that's—that—that is the only way that you can say that's abusive, because she got to the point that she felt like, okay, so you're doing it on purpose to hurt my feeling, knowing this kind of—Yeah, but this is—this is where women never take responsibility. If they're the ones who know what's happening and they're describing it as xyz—in this case, abuse—they have some weird excuse to stay in—in the situation, right? Every time she—she left, she said that she left, but—that—that's how she got to the conclusion that he was trying to abuse—was she abusing me? I felt abused by this woman who—she was not answering—who refused to just like answer my question. Is that abusing—yo, chat, am I—am I—am I an abusive—wait, she says you're abusive. I heard that she says that I was abusive towards her. She already told you like she—like even answer the question. Let's say like she said—even if it was a question on a [ __ ] quiz—let me ask you a question, answer it. That was the question. You already answered. Sure, I love this. Do you know what stonewalling is? Is stonewalling abusive to do in a relationship? Wait, I don't know what that means. You don't know what stonewalling is? Yeah, no. Please explain. Here, I'll Google it for you, just so I give you the—the perfect definition. You got to remember, I have never been in a relationship, so uh—is that just like someone—it's like—so the silent treatment, a destructive communication pattern where someone emotionally disengages and becomes unresponsive, shutting down a conversation or interaction; can be a form of emotional abuse. I was being abused by that woman because she was stonewalling. Also, hounding her, and she already gave her answer. I think it's a—I think it's a perfectly—when you've been invited to come on a conversational discussion show, there's an—Hold on, hold on, there's an anticipation that questions are going to be asked. I think it was a reasonable question to ask her; was a hypothetical question, and I was like, hey, look, answer one or the other; she didn't do it. I understand. I think that her problem was—is that it—tell us the question had—tell us her SA involved in it, and therefore she didn't want to answer it whatsoever. She didn't want—It doesn't matter. Hold on, let me ask you what angle I—you know—oh, I wish I did this—uh, I'll ask—this is what I should have asked her. I'll ask you if you could get rid—if would you—would you get rid of all men—hold on, wait, wait, hold on here; I'm changing it; I'm going to change it. Okay, so would you get rid of all men to prevent one SA? Well, if it's just one, though. Okay, so then like, I guess where's the threshold like—well, like I said, from my experience, most people have taken advantage of me, so for me, from my experience, I'm like—so what's the number, though? If it's not one—he's asking what is the number—is it five? I already said 80%. Wait, no, that's not what we're talking—um, how about let's say to prevent a thousand different women being SA'd once, would you get rid of all men? A thousand women is a lot; I'm going to be honest with you; that's crazy. I wish I asked that to her; that would have been—Yeah, that—that would have been interesting. Yeah, the threshold is really the—the question in the end; it's like, what's the threshold, you know? What—what do you think, Jim Bob? Do you think for the question of uh—to prevent one SA, would you get rid of all men? Do you think she would have granted like—she would have been like, "Well, no, not—not for one." Mhm. Or do you think she would have still been like—she would have said, "No, I'm not answering." Yeah, I can't answer that; she would just avoid the—

Good times. Okay, we have a couple chats here that I'm going to pull up that—birch—birch—birchwood—keep this one away from my wood—are you a fan of—What do you think about like um driftwood, you know, that the beach—that washes up on the beach? Cool to look—look at. Yeah, I like nature, just a lot. Do you have any—I'm not—Never mind, I'm not going to answer. No, ask it, please. Christopher Murphy says, "I have a friend named Sugar Maple; he said he was trunk deep in you, alien; he filled you up with syrup, and you never called him back for round two; he feels abused." Sounds like me. Yeah, wow, that's really abusive of you, alien; that's crazy. Uh, okay, well uh—what is going on back there? How many people do we have out of their seats? We got—They're just—They're getting antsy. Oh, wait, yo Naz, do you want to call uh—You got a daughter, right? Do you want to call her to come be on the show? I'm trying. Yeah, get her—let's have her join the show; we got an empty chair. Get her—Get her to join the panel. Get her—Get her to join the panel. Um uh boys, this could be the—guys chat—this could be the first ever mother-daughter appearance on the whatever podcast, if she—got chat—help convince Naz to bring her daughter on. Mother-daughter—good times. It was the best of times; it was the worst of times; it was the winter of my discontent. Okay, I don't know; that's like two different [ __ ] things combined. Um, Tiffany, do you have any statements, thoughts, feelings, opinions? Didn't think so. Okay, anyways, next—Wait, what about—what—I don't know, just anything. No, what do you think about like Trump's immigration policy? Horrible. You—you want more people deported? Yeah. Obama deported more people than him. I see. Okay, you want—You think Trump's slacking on the immigration—definitely. Okay, that's cool. Um, all right, we're gonna—I think that's pretty much it for my pre-show notes, but we have the questionnaire, so Sammy, you circled uh—so the statement, by the way, chat, I changed it; there's no more double negatives; it's just agree now, not disagree—men are not physically stronger than women; you agree. Um, I agree, because I think it can vary, you know. I feel like it really does depend. Now, in my personal experience, that one guy used to beat me up, like I said, I got some of my hit in, so sometimes I won, sometimes I didn't, so sometimes it just varies, you know. And also, it's not—also just about like weight and stuff like—you gotta be careful with like short chicks, though. It's always—it's always like—oh, my personal experience—me—the [ __ ]—does that guy—what does that mean? Yo Tiff, yeah, why you talking [ __ ] on my girl? When—when he asks me a question, you don't want me to talk about from my point of view; you want me to talk about from your point of view, or you want to answer—you're—you're answering—you're answering the question from your point of view, cuz that—cuz he asked me, not somebody else. D—dam, you going to let her talk to you like that? She's been disrespecting you; she's going—she's been pulling disrespect on your name on that. It's okay, cuz she's the epiphany of a pick me; like I'm not worried about it. So are you a pick me, Tiffany? Are you going to let her—she just called you a pick me; are you gonna let her talk to you like that, Tiffany? I mean, what are you instigating? What—I'm—I'm just clarifying; that's what he gets paid for. You need a cat sfx; it's like—Well, I have uh—So you're saying that men are—we will both mash you—what—men are stronger generally, but women sometimes can get in a good hit, right? So that's what I think, but generally speaking, men are going to be stronger. Men are—Okay, all right, so you don't really have a disagreement there. Um, oh, wait, we have this girl—oh, man, this would have been good [ __ ]; should I tell her to come back? Wait, hold on; I'm telling the truth [ __ ]; come back, boo. She's definitely gone. If you ask her to come back, she's going to be like, "It depends." Uh, I don't know; she's like halfway to LA now. Come back, yo, if you're watching this, Sarah, come back because we got to—Oh, man, we got to get—This is some good stuff. Sarah, come back. Put her—cook—come back. Um, not coming back. I don't know. Felicity, I mean, I don't think so. I think she might come back. I don't think she seemed pretty upset. She's very indecisive, you know. Listen, we moved on from the get bear conversation. Yeah, I don't think—Why did we move on? We moved on because she walked out. That is a true—that is true. I was planning to move on very soon, though. I just had to ask her one more—I just had to ask her one more time to answer the question, but okay, she seemed deliberate at a certain point; it's like, how do you just like—what do you know? And I'm not trying to be mean, and I was going to say that with all due respect—what do you know? True. There's like actually almost nothing here. Um—um, I don't even—Y'all just agree with—Sorry, guys, I'm looking over the—Okay, Tiffany, you said you would uh—you would not date a police officer; you would not date a soldier. Why—why would you not date a police officer, Tiffany? They're just not my type. What—I like skinny guys. If they're skinny—they could be skinny—they're usually not skinny. Skinny police—you like skinny—skinny guys? I don't like muscle. So you like femboys? No, I just like model skinny, like stick skinny guys. Need some crisp—like they're dying a little bit. Um, that's a good question, Felicity. She likes the dying—wait—got—leave it on the table; leave the power—the crystals must be left on the table; we must pro—protect the sacred—the sacred energy—sacred—uh, okay, Tiffany, what about soldier? You won't date a soldier? No, because they're probably really muscular. Muscular—uh, okay, all right, well then I have nothing for you then. Um, that's not even—Okay, Naz, you said dating is harder for women; why is that? Um, I guess we—we have to—um, I guess I'm talking about my experience; let's say that's—Wait, actually, I agree with that too. Yeah, because there's just—um—it's—I—I believe it's getting harder and harder because—because there's so many different layers or just keep adding to the equation that you have to go through and sift through, at least this is how it is for me, and um—and I think um—is uh—be commitment is just not a thing for men, especially in LA; is just uh—it—I guess it used to be easier to—even talk about commitment or being in a relationship or—but—but now it's mostly people want to just have fun and uh, you know, have a quick encounter and just leave and try other people. It's just becoming a trial—competition. I think for men—are these firsthand experiences from you, or this is what you've heard? Myself and what I hear. Because I thought you said you've been like—you haven't been in a relationship for—Wait, yeah, I have. And you've been celibate? Oh, so the guys tried to sleep with you, but you don't want that? It's mostly because of that; it's—it's just uh—it doesn't—sleeping with people doesn't come first for me; it's—it's something that comes later when you start to getting to know people, but that is pushed really at the beginning from—and I—and I don't think that's something that I would want to—that I would be comfortable with. H—well, men have always uh attempted—I mean, that's what they—that's driving them, and it's actually been the women who's uh—basically putting up the—the segments of time, you know, like putting up the barriers, and you have to win them over—courtship and all of that. Um, that's why I always bring up women's liberation; I think that also didn't help is that suddenly women were like, oh, wait, I can sleep with a lot of people, and that's my power. Well, now you get the worst of both world—worlds, right? Because now the men expect to sleep with the women because it's empowering for the women to be able to sleep with men, and there's no ties; there's no—nothing—no commitment; you don't even have to fear getting pregnant, cuz you can just get rid of it. This kind of scenario—the liberation of both sides uh is really uh producing really shitty fruits in my opinion, and it's—and it's worse for you at this point—not just age, but you have a kid, so that adds another aspect, right? So I remember back in 2012 on Instagram, my peers—like my female peers—would post pictures in lingerie, and then they'd be like, "Don't objectify me." Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, that was like a whole phenomenon. Mhm. Very strange. Very strange indeed. Very strange indeed. Uh, okay, so do you think men are insecure if they care about body count? Not exactly; I just think it's a little weird—how so? Cuz why would it matter, you know—depending on—again, like depending on the situation, you know, I don't know, but some guys will have like super high body count, and then they go after a girl who's like virgin, and then I think that's—well, that—that's another thing, but we can get into that. I—I actually have a good way to reframe this question, but do—just to have everybody answer—do you think men are insecure for caring about a woman's body count? Yep. No. I mean, I don't think they're insecure. Okay. Do you think it's like lame to care to—I think it's stupid, and I like—and I feel like the people that ask don't want to share theirs, you know what I'm saying? I think—and I think—Yeah, I mean, that's about it. I don't think it's necessary. Maybe I should change it. Do you think it's a reasonable question to ask? Is it a reasonable metric by which men uh can uh choose to reject somebody? Like, for example, the guy's like, "Oh, your body—" He's not like talking [ __ ]; he's just like, "Oh, okay, your body count's 30; I don't want to date you." Yeah, whatever. But I mean, if you're blown out, you know what I'm saying? But if it's just like—you just like—you know, someone's blown out—if it's—I don't think that's how sex—if you ask—you know what I mean? If they're just like blown out—yeah, whatever; I'm not going to go down that path. But like, okay, sure, if it's too much, then it's too much. I don't know, like 30—do you think men are insecure for caring about—I don't think it has anything to do with being insecure; it's their preferences, and it's respectable. Sure. Tiffany—no tea, dog. No. Okay. Uh, here, I'm going to change the question a little bit. Um, so you said yes, kind of like—Yeah, I don't think it's insecure; I just think it's like an odd kind of preference to worry about, unless it's dramatic, you know what? If it's—I—I kind of want to maybe move from body count to promiscuity. So, for example, what if it's a man's preference that the longest period of time has elapsed—like the longer the better—has elapsed since the last time she's had sex with somebody? So, for example—would—I don't know if this is the case for you, but I think a lot of men would be grossed out by the following: the [ __ ]—a woman who you're interested in had sex with a guy the night before. I think most men would find that gross. Is that valid or—no—no, I agree; it's valid, but—so how far back, though, until it becomes—why do you care? So like a week—she [ __ ] a guy a week ago—I still think that's gross. Yeah, I think that's a month ago—not as gross; still kind of—h—Yeah, I'd say it's still a little bit too—yeah, but it's like—so for most men, I think it's like—we want that period to be as—I mean, ideally, she's a virgin, right? But if most women aren't, so we want that period to be the longest—oh, it's been 3 years, 7 years—like her—good for you; I'm proud of you, especially in LA; my goodness, good for you; props. There's a lot of—I mean, dick slanging going on in LA—an insanity—very insane. I feel like it insinuates too that they're not in your life anymore, you know, like the people that you slept with a week ago—sure, you know, things like that—like the likelihood of you still being involved with somebody and you slept with them a week ago versus you have been celibate for 6 months, a year. Uh, so I think that's what body count is pointing to, though. Oh, and then I also had—I had another revelation: there's body count, but hear me out, fellas—chat—chat, I want you guys to weigh in on this: there's qual—body—quality count—maybe not count; I need to find a good name for this, but there's the body count qualifier. I don't know. So okay, here's the example: I'll give a girl has sex with 10 good dudes—10 men—10 good dudes, and those dudes—let's say they're just virgins—she [ __ ]—somehow—she [ __ ] like 10 virgin guys, or she [ __ ] one scumbag [ __ ], you know, like she [ __ ] one dude that's just a [ __ ] dirt bag, and you know he's a [ __ ] dirt bag, and you know—I think that's the 10 men theory; I think that's what you should call it. I don't know—tenmen theory. Um, if they're like just disgusting—you mean like—like a health hazard? I'm trying—like I'm trying to think like if she had sex with—I'm trying to think of like a famous person like uh—Flavor Flave—Pete Davidson—yeah—Pete Davidson, or like she [ __ ]—sorry, Flave—um, like Lil Xan—Magic Johnson—well, he's got HIV, right? Or—is—or's clear now, though, right? I mean, if they're like the male equivalent of a [ __ ] and they're disgusting, but—but chat, do you know what I mean? Like—like it offsets—like even if her body count is lower, but she [ __ ] a dirty dude—that's like 10 bodies, right? She's gross. Yeah, I mean, does—make it worse—a little—like I'm not saying that like—you know what I mean? Like what are we talking about, though? Like does he have like barnacles at that—that point—that becomes kind of like um—It's more of a judgment of her judgment—when—when the guy is like—could be—you know what I mean?—could be—I think it might be beyond that; it's almost like you—dangerous—you judge—you're—then judging her discernment; it's more than just the activity—you're judging her judgment, right? At that point—that makes sense. You're saying like, "Oh, I'm—you know—you choose me, but you chose that person—am I on the same shelf as that person?" It goes both ways, though, for sure. It goes both ways to some extent, but the—the question of body count is definitely uh different in value for the two, and the reason is that women are the gatekeepers of sex, so I hate to reduce it to this, but there is an economic aspect to women's uh chastity and virtue and—and their virginity because—biological—yeah, because it's less put on men; that's just how it is because men aren't the gatekeepers; you got—you ladies are the gatekeepers; you actually determine—absent being part of a culture that just says no—by force—take your bodies—if the culture—um—you get to determine that—the problem is I keep coming back to feminism is that you've been sold this shitty deal that tells you to use the—basically the main leverage tool that you have and just throwing it away and just be like—have it for free—have it for free; it's liberating; it's awesome. No, it's a terrible mistake that messed up—that messed up so many things in our traditional structure because the men are out there trying to seek good women, even if they had a string of uh uh—you know, sexual encounters with not so good women; they're still looking for the good one. Yes, and then the problem is if the woman in her liberation racks up 30 plus bodies, what is a good woman anymore? Like it goes both ways, and so it's not a great situation. I think the best thing—the most empowering—I wish the other girl was here—the most empowering thing a woman could do is hold on to her virginity, and if she was smart, she would leverage it for a good man. You're not wrong. A couple people in the chat don't like my whole uh handwriting—well, that too, but I—the body count quality qualifier, or maybe I—I got to think of something better, but here, I'll give you an example, so—

I would almost rather a girl have an additional three bodies, but they're like good dudes versus she slept with like Tekashi 69. You know what I mean? Like, like a resume, or like NLE Choa. If a girl slept with NLE—I don't know who that is, Choa—whatever, some rando. Okay, he's a rapper. He's a rapper. This guy [ __ ] a bunch of chicks, right? Awesome. I'm like, I'd almost rather her have slept with more men that are good men. That's—I know that sounds weird—it's like a resume, but it's like the quality of the dude they're [ __ ] with. Sure, cuz then you feel like a scumbag, or you just feel dirty. I feel dirty by extension, by proxy, by proxy.

Wait, Brian, are you saying it's also a one-night stand with the so-called good men? Cuz I would think those people are still kind of gross. Like it sounds like, for when you say "good men," from my perspective, it's like they were in a relationship; they got to know each other. Like, unfortunately, that's the standard we're working with, but are you saying one-night stand with the good, the good-hearted? You know, they're a bunch of Mormons. Like the chick is just like, "Well, they're all Mormon." You're like, "Yes." So even in that scenario, so I like there's a bunch of ways you can paint the scenario. Like, okay, she's got uh, she's had sex with three guys, but they were all in a relationship versus like she had—she's like friends with benefits with some like rapper who does drugs and has fun [ __ ] a bunch of chicks or whatever. Uh, I would say that even though in the scenario you presented, man, the the one body but the dude's a dirt bag, still, still I think that's kind of worse.

Yeah, well, in the back of your mind you're thinking STDs too. You're like, "That's why it's a health hazard." I think that's the most important thing, and then that is revealing about the person because that—how are you treating yourself? That aren't—that you're—that aren't tested. Like that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, people do the possibility when you—when people sleep with people, but are you asking them about their like, well, scumbags, their STD stuff? Cuz I do that. So maybe just be smarter. I'm sorry, you do what? I ask people about their STD like testings and stuff like that. And I mean, people lie. Most people don't do that in a casual sexual—asking them to show you it then, cuz I do. How do you know? How do you really know? How do I get—like I said, just ask them to show you it. What do you mean, "How do you know?" Show me the proof. Yeah, I know, but sometimes like some of these STDs can take a long time. Don't [ __ ] that person; like be smarter. Like, do you want STDs? Like, actually use your brain. Oh, sorry. That's exactly—that was cool. Um, happened? No, cuz like people like don't actually take that [ __ ] seriously, and it's dumb as hell. And then you're going to come on here and just say like, "Oh, this, that, and the other," and it's like, "No." Like, actually take it seriously. If you're going to sit here and say that you're taking it seriously, are you asking people to show you their testing then? Don't talk [ __ ] about them like that; that's crazy. If you're going to sit here and just start [ __ ] people and not ask them like that, that's crazy. The problem is people lie, unless I guess then ask them to show you. What's the problem with that? Do you have like—it's like—it's like if you—if a man comes up to you, or a boy or whatever, and he's like—he looks like he's 19, but he's not [ __ ] 19, he's like 17. Okay, ask him for an ID. Sure. STD tests, I feel like they're not as common. It's common sense, honestly, as I wouldn't [ __ ] someone if they don't have a STD.

Well, bro, just to be clear, you think like rappers are getting like the—are they end up with STDs? So like that's why you think that they're dirty because they're not going out and actually taking care of their actual sexual uh, bodies, you know what I mean? Like they're just going out here and like just giving it all—not giving a [ __ ] whether they're bringing stuff in and like giving it to other people. What—what are we arguing about? I'm just not—cuz I just feel like it's just so stupid to sit here and be like—I feel like it's stupid that people would just sit here and say like, "But what if they're not like STDs and all this?" Then ask people to show you that. And if you're not going to go and get like—if you're not going to ask them, just don't [ __ ] them if that is a problem to you. Like I don't understand how you guys are sitting here and acting like you disagree with me. Like go out there and have some beads all you want. We actually—no, we—we actually—we're talking about—we actually do agree with you. Yeah, I don't know if we're actually talking about the judgment that we have for a part—a partner who—Brian's scenario was—sleeps with the rapper who doesn't give a [ __ ] about any of it, right? Don't [ __ ] him; like that's the whole body. So if you know a girl that [ __ ] him, then don't [ __ ]. I don't understand what the problem is. We agree with you. We're talking about whether that—that judgment is valid of those people. Yeah, if it's a high body count, you're just—in the back of your mind, that's what I said—in the back of your mind you're going to have that—that thought, and it's going to make you feel weird. I'm—look, all I'm saying is that when it comes to the body count question, if a girl has [ __ ] a dirty dude—a dirty dude—that's like—not every body—c—body—body is equal. Yeah, not every body number—body count is going to be equal. Oh, that's—that's fair. So like there's another component now. I think even if they're all good dudes, but she's got a high body count, I'm—there's still going to be a judgment there, but what I'm saying is there's an additional qualifier on top where it's like, "Oh, her body count is this, and she's [ __ ] a bunch of rappers, and she's [ __ ] a bunch of like scumbag dirt bag [ __ ] drug whatever it is she [ __ ]—she's [ __ ] dealt with dirty dudes." That's like an additional uh, like disqualifier. It's just gross. Yeah, it's dirty. Just—yeah, dirty birdie. Yeah, and then you have to check your own hygiene. You're like, "Am I dirty?" You guess—is this like a guess—wait—question? Oh, well, I think that there's a lot of men out there that don't like to admit that they get prostitutes and stuff like that, so I mean like—oh, I love this. No, no, no, this is great. So I think this can go both ways though. So as a woman, would you be turned off by a guy who [ __ ] prostitutes? I don't care. Oh, 100%. Okay, well, a lot of girls—let's say a guy has been with uh, like 10 girls. I don't think probably for most women that's probably not like the end of the world for them, but if the woman finds out that those 10 women he's been with were all prostitutes—no, if it's all prostitutes, then I'm like, "Why are you out here just paying for sex?" Like that's a different question for me, but it's kind of similar. Like prostitutes are—I don't think they're kind of dirty; they're greasy, they're dirty, they be [ __ ]. They're greasy. Thousand—thousand—not all, because like honestly people are out here calling just OnlyFans models prostitutes, so like—no, I'm talking street. I'm talking street; that's different. Street walker. Yeah, no, for sure. I'm talking $30 DJ in the back of a 7-Eleven; that is definitely different. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, and then that's—I think women would be grossed out by that a little bit. Like, "Oh, you just [ __ ]"—I—not just [ __ ], but like for me personally, if a man came to me and was like, "This happened in my past; I had sex with a prostitute," I'm like, "Okay, just show me that you're clean." And that's where I can go from there.

Here's a real question for men and women: Is it ideal or even preferred—I'm not saying it's realistic, I'm just asking if it's ideal or preferred—that you—that your partner has no other sexual partners, and that's the same for them? I don't care. And all—all else was equal; it was a great relationship, you know, it was potential to turn into a marriage and all of this—isn't it ideal when we're really thinking about it that it would just be a one-to-one? No, that you had no other partners? For sure, because what is really gained for either way? Some people I've heard even on the show try to argue, "Well, what's gained is you get to know what you like." Well, no, that could be true for the person you're with. Oh, you learn how to have sex properly; that could be true with the person you're—that you're with. So what is actually gained for men or women um, to be promiscuous? I don't understand what the actual benefit is. Ultimately, short-term gratification, validation; it's just ego—shallow—it's just shallow [ __ ], and then especially when you're young, it's like if everybody else is doing it, you feel weird. You're like, "What's wrong with you?" Yeah, yeah. You're like, "You're messed up; you're the messed up one." Yeah, yeah. I still haven't had that—that question answered because they always go to like practice. They're like, "Well, I was practicing; I was doing this."

Can you ask that again because I don't understand what the question was? Um, isn't it ideal uh, for two people—a man and a woman who uh—it—see they're in a relationship; it seems to be something promising—isn't it ideal from both of their perspectives that they've only been with each other sexually? And the second question is, what else would be gained by having multiple partners for—for either person? I mean, it just really just depends on that person's like and their relationship, because I know for me and myself like I don't care. Um, I—I have boo things, like I said, like I don't—I'm not here to have like an actual relationship. So for me to like sit here and have a situationship, I'm not going to sit here and demand you to only be with me. Like that's something that you're going to have to make your decision on if you're gonna make this just inclusive for yourself or whatever. But also, I also don't expect you to think like it's—for people—the hypothetical is for people who want to be with each other, who want a relationship, who want to potentially get married. And if I wanted a relationship, yeah, then it's just us, but I don't think I would care about their body count regardless.

Well, you might not care, but if you could have a choice, and now you're in the either-or hot seat, is if you had the answer—no, they had no previous sexual partners—or—or they had—I don't care. I would prefer that they have sexual partners. You would choose that they had a lot because like if you're going to look at other—like I know that you're going to look at other people, so like why not just like go out, have the fun that you want to, and if you're going to come back or whatever, like that doesn't bother me. No, I don't understand what that adds though; like what's the value of that? It's—it's like—just for me, it's just not a problem. It's not like a value or whatever. I don't really see sex as like a valuable thing for me personally; I just do it just because other people like it, but like that's really it. You know, there's no value—there's no value in sex. No, not for me. Okay, I value people for how they are and how they treat me, but that's it. I think at the younger age you could say that people would do that to figure out their type. Yeah, someone tries to say that. Yeah. Um, but in—in—in some point you—you know you already know. Yeah, but even that—you could find—you can find your type without having sex too, right? If you know your body enough, you—it's—it's not hard to figure out if that energy would work with you. Yeah, because if—if you get—it's—it's the energy. Yeah, I'm saying that's a—yeah, I'm saying that you would—you still wouldn't need to have sex to find your type. In fact, uh, if you got to know someone to the point where you would be willing to have sex with them, you've already decided without having sex with them. So you know all you're really adding to the equation is doing something that you really want to do that's actually not necessary to do uh, but just both people want to do it. And that—I think this is why we're in such a predicament here is that people are having all sorts of sex and they're able to avoid the consequence, which is a birth, and they're able to avoid another uh, otherwise required uh, thing which is trust. So you know, the—again, it goes back to the women giving this away to men and calling it liberation where there—what you're saying is like that's never built up like where you actually earn it, you know—that you earn these next phases of your—of your uh, intimacy. There's no earning anymore. No, you know, that is a big problem. Yeah, in—in—in my opinion uh, okay, we're guys, we're going to do a $20—let's just uh, we'll go ahead and just leave this up—$20 TTS guys, we're going to go into the roast session here, then we're going to get uh, wrapped up pretty soon. So uh, $20 TTS roast. There's a lot of—there's a lot of subject material here for roasting. If you want, you can roast me. You can roast—Felicity needs a bit of a roast. You got a little—I mean, look at the shirt; are you kidding me? Yeah, look at that shirt. Oh my god, unbelievable. Tiffany needs a big roast; the—the 1-enter over here—Tiffany, the 1-enter. She needs to be—she's asking for it; she's asking for it. Um, why did you look at me? I'm easily roastable; I get it. Uh, Bunny Rabbit, guys, can you—if you can though, thank you for the super chat, try to send it through Streamlabs; it's just a bit easier for us. People don't show you—I get regular checkups; my results are on an app. Also, don't date men or women you know—f—a lot of people just like you say about women—don't do it unless you make sure—show me the VA—vag facts. That's a great idea for a business—show me the Carfax. Thank you for that, Bunny Rabbit; appreciate it. Yeah, man, that's crazy—the Vag Facts—big of truth—the big labia matter—that's all—I'll only date a girl with—I—I don't date these any chicks, you know—that's the foundation of any—is good—just kidding. I—I'll—I'll date a girl with an innie. I wonder if like that throws [ __ ] off though, like if a girl watches the show and he's—and they're like, "Oh, he has a thing for like Audis." And then like she's insecure the entire relationship if she has an innie. It could probably happen—probably, you know, it's like imagine like if a girl—I could—that probably happens to men. Oh, for sure; like the girl's like, "Oh, my ex—bro, he's ruined—he's done for." Yeah, you say—you tell a guy like that your ex had a huge peen; it's over. Why would you—yeah, that's [ __ ] up; that's a terrible thing to say; that's [ __ ] up. Why would you do that then? That's just a red flag. I've not had that happen to me, but I—it probably has happened. See, but wouldn't you—okay, we're going to go down this really quickly—wouldn't you consider that somewhat mentally abusive to be like—or emotionally abusive or whatever—to be like, "My ex was better than you," constantly in the back of your mind? You're like, "Oh, I'm not good enough; I'm going to—I got to try to be better at—" That definitely is abusive because that's intentionally ruining somebody else's brain. It's like dropping a bug in someone's mind constantly, and it's just not fair. What would you consider mental and emotional abuse, Brian? I can get that, but like to say, "Oh, my ex had a bigger penis," that's not necessarily abusive unless they're saying it in a way to purposely hurt you, like they'll be like, "Oh, my—was way bigger—my ex was way bigger," you know, to hurt your feelings—make you feel like bad—like body shaming you. I think that's when it can become abusive, but to just flat out say—if they're shitty—yeah, but is it abusive? No, I think it's just the pattern. I think if it's a continuous deliberate pattern, that's when it becomes abusive. Wait, so—so what—sorry—the qu—can you repeat the question? What would you consider mental abuse—emotional abuse? So the girlfriend is saying, "Oh, my ex was better in bed." Just—yeah, in general, like just a little—I wouldn't cate—I think that's a terrible thing to say to somebody in a relationship. I would not categorize it as abuse. You're a jerk; you're an [ __ ]; they should dump you. I don't think it's abusive. So what would you consider abusive? And what I think about that really quick is that if it's a one-off, yeah, that's shitty. If it's a constant deliberate pattern, that's when it becomes—sure, I can—I can agree with you. If it's like bombardment, yeah, then yes. If it's a—if they said it one-off, but like every time you [ __ ] them, and then they were like, "Whoa, you're really bad in bed; my ex was so—so much better," um, that's horrible; that's abusive. That is abusive; that is mentally—emotionally abusive. Mentally, you're messing with somebody else constantly, and that was your choice to be there. Sure, I'll—I'll grant that if there's a pattern, yes, then—then yes. I think a—a one-off thing—again, terrible thing to say—I think just on that one thing, that could be the—that's a breakup; that's a breakup, but I don't—I think people can do breakup-worthy things that are not abusive. Sure, I agree with that. So aren't there dudes who like demand that they're—the woman tell them that they're better than their ex or their exes are—yeah, degradation—or they're scumbag—what if—if they ask for it—if they demand that—no, no, but the—the thing is it's like all of the—the shame and the ridicule is still there; it's not like—it's not—it's not the same thing. It's like what happened with me when I was talking about the death by a thousand cuts earlier is like it ultimately was my responsibility, you know what I'm saying? Like if they're prone to like—it sounds like it's only abuse if you just don't like what they're doing, but the same exact behavior for someone who likes the terrible feeling—sure, it's not abuse; no, it's not. And it's ultimately their responsibility, and if it bothers them eventually, then that's their problem. I don't think that that's abuse because they're asking for it. If anything, you're doing them a favor. Leave this one up, for example, if two bullies are in a relationship with each other, they back and forth doing it to each other, so it doesn't hurt either of them because that's their game, but if this is not—wait, can you just leave your drink there? Just stop playing; that's not the dynamic for—for the person who is actually taking it personally and it getting hurt by it; that becomes an abuse; that's how you can basically look at it. All right guys, $20 TTS roast session; we have Andre uh, Canadian 20; Felicity looks like she's being held against her will; chair four and five are based; uh, what are your ex-handles? Chair one—trust me, bro, I can fix her, bro; she's got a 39-year-old giant BBC boyfriend. I think he's talking about her like he can fix her. Oh, but if you—if that's what you meant, I hope you make 500 bands. Boom, sweet. You know what, this—the whole like the conversation though around abuse reminds me of—did—did you hear about this whole Harry Styles thing where he was like—he was like uh, texting 10 different chicks or—or something and they—I think it's kind of a jerk—maybe he's a bit of a jerk—maybe he's a bit of an [ __ ], but these women are like, "Wow, you—we're victims and uh, it's abusive." I'm like, "M—no, he's just—he's a jerk; he's an [ __ ]; he's a [ __ ] boy; you guys got—you guys got played, but it's not like—it's not abusive." Okay, he's like got a roster, and even if he lied about it, I don't think that's abusive. If he was like in a relationship with all of them and he was like, "Yeah, you're—you're the one that's different," no, then it's not abusive; he's just a—a player. Don't chicks have rosters now? That's like their power move; they're like, "I have rosters." Oh, yeah. Most of these girls are—Dana, can you elaborate on that? What is like—they have a roster; they have like a list of dudes they can call and put into the game, so to speak, and that's like—they—they're managing now; like they're—they're the team owner, and it's—it's like that just works against the women, especially—it actually works against the women more so than it works against the men. Yeah, we're at the tail end of the decade for sure now; we're the dark ages again. Yeah, never forget—you're the gate—gatekeepers of the gene. Oh, uh, going around the table, what's your body count? 11—uh, I think so—15—15 or 15—okay, 15—12—uh, four—four—okay, zero—too—I'm not saying—neither am I—of course not—the patriarchy wins again—the men—that's what I'm saying—what—what—what are you saying? Just like [ __ ], but y'all—okay, I understand if a dirty dude—like that's different, but it's like if you're—if you're going to demand that—not demand, but if you're going to ask somebody that question, it's like—and then they ask you, and it's like—I don't want to tell you—it's like kind of [ __ ] up. You don't have to tell us—probably earlier—no, you have to answer—would have forced it—and which is fine, and I know what I signed up for. I'm just saying that's—there's just a standard—kind of a thing—this doesn't apply the same to each of us, but I think that once you're uh, married and you've been married for a while, like talking about that stuff is just like—is nonsensical. Yeah, I mean, I can see that for you. Yeah, it's just kind of like—yeah, it's clearly a double standard. Well, there's girls that come in here all the time; they say, "I don't want to answer that." Sure, you can just say, "I don't want to answer"—if you—if you really don't want. Oh, there's a little push back, but who cares, I suppose. I'm just saying they never asked that girl until she left. That's not a little push back; that was different though. I don't think so; it was happening for a while way before that question even came up. Good [ __ ]; good times; that's cool; we have fun here. Uh, all right, uh, we have uh, wait, what? Eric—prayers for the Wilson family; wjb—shout out the boys at Made by Jim Bob YouTube channel—Jay Dyer next on whatever—God bless. I've heard of Jay Dyer. Uh, yeah, he's awesome. Yeah, thank you, Eric, for the super chat. Wait, prayers for—is everything okay with—well, they had a tornado, and then uh, I know—Rachel's had some—oh yeah, Rachel's been having some health stuff uh [ __ ]. Okay, there's a tornado—damn—there was—there was—yeah, 15 bodies, but how many trees? Just one tree? Only one tree? Nice; that's cool. Uh, so guys, $20 TTS roast session; get them in; that's streamlabs.com whatever. 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Cinjun Tater, thank you for the Prime. Thank you, thank you. Appreciate it, guys. All right, we have Justin Martins. Yo, is my Streamlabs not working or something? Um, why does Jim Bob always look like he just woke up fully clothed? That, that's exactly what, what's happening. That's why. Is my Streamlabs not working because this is kind of peculiar. I mean, maybe you guys just don't want to, nobody's roasty. I should, you know, I don't know. Let me see. Is it bugged, boys? I think it's bugged. Hey, can somebody like test out a roast? Like somebody test out uh, like Streamlabs or whatever, man, because it's like bugged or whatever. $20 TTS boys. Okay, thank you, man. Six-pack Chad, thank you for that. Is that Jamaican at the end? Okay, thank you, man. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. It's Canadian. A, it's like Irish. That was British. It's like Canadian. A. Mhm. All right, guys, $20 bro. I think our Streamlabs is bugged. This is crazy. Uh, okay. Well, what else do I have? Uh, so you've been single for 6 months? You said yes. Longest relationship. Mhm. Longest relationship. Oh, that was it. Oh, 10, 10 years. From from what age to what? Can you stop playing with the cup, please? I'm just gonna put this over here. Yeah, that's a good idea. Uh, 10 years you say? From what age to like 18 to or no? Uh, 6 months ago is when it ended. So Oh [ __ ] who, dumb, too. Just walk me, damn. Wait, this is the abusive guy. The abusive quote. You were in that relationship for 10 years. She stayed for 10. It wasn't bad at first. Think of all the Soundcloud rappers you could have had sex with. Wait, did he become abusive in in the last five, three? Yeah, it just slowly started happening. It was just like he just got more comfortable with that or I just started noticing it more because, you know, at the end of the day, it's just like, yeah, I [ __ ] suck, you know, whatever. Like, yeah, I could do that better, but like, yeah, I suck, you know, kind of a thing. And then it just gets worse and worse to the point where like it's just like, okay, I don't know. I uh, actually I don't know. Just like with people like that, I don't even know. I'm just rambling. I actually ended up breaking up with him, so we never did couples therapy, but I was like, "Let's go." And then I broke up with him in couples therapy because if I didn't do that, if there wasn't like a third party there, like it would just go on and on forever and I'd just be a piece of [ __ ]. So if you have a third party there, that's another piece of advice. A lot of the times they'll just accept it, and you know, in therapy I asked, I was like, "If there's anything I did wrong, like I want to talk about it. I want to know what I did wrong." Had nothing to say. And like that just sounds like I'm blowing smoke in my own ass, but it's true. Like, nothing to say. I mean, he said you were in the way, so yeah, like, you know, things like that. But I am burly, so uh, wait, so is it confirmed that the Streamlabs is not working because chat is stream, I mean, some people are saying Streamlab uh, Streamlabs is bugged. Uh, just do it through super chats, guys. We'll just do super chats then uh, if if Streamlabs is actually bugged. Just send it in through uh, super chat, YouTube super chat. Last one for tonight, Brian. I bet you're a terrible poker player. All I can see is your reactions to whatever's on your screen while everyone is talking. Can I get an o tabern? O tabernac? I don't, I'm not sure what that is, but thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you for that. Okay, guys, $20. T, apparently, guys, the Streamlabs is busted. I'm not sure why. Um, trying to figure out what could be going on. Left works for Streamlabs. Could I think that's what happened. It's Y2K. That is super weird. Let me see what's going on here, guys. One sec. No, that's still enabled. Uh, I'm going to check one other thing, but uh, so have you had a rebound? Um, is that too soon? No, no. I think that's kind of like I want to just like use somebody, and I also don't. Why not? You should totally get on some strange. I should have been the predecessor to all this degeneracy. You're right. Wait, what? I said I should have been the predecessor to all this uh, degeneracy and just started just like I could get a rebound for that, and then I could get a rebound for that rebound, and it just never ends. Yes, the the uh, rebound inception kind of. Yeah, there's got to be something catchier though. The domino effect of the rebound. You think the 10 theory? Do you think he's like just plowing through like, do you think he's just running through? Where you? Where do you? Where you from? Uh, New York. Do you think he's just plowing through some [ __ ] Brooklyn, some [ __ ] Queens chicks? Oh, no, he lives here. And also. Oh, he lives in California. Oh [ __ ]. I'm in California. Um, North Carolina, where I actually live. I'm not used to. Wait, where was this? A long-distance relationship? No, no. We both lived in the same apartment in North Carolina. Oh, but he I just forgot where I was. He dipped and now now he's living. He didn't dip. I broke up with him. Well, but he dipped from North Carolina. No, he didn't. So he's still in North Carolina. Yes. So is he getting some? What's a city in North Carolina? Charlotte, Greensboro. Charlotte. Just Charlotte. Just. I only know those two things. Running through some some uh, UNC chicks? You think? University of Northern California? I feel nothing. Like I grieved the relationship before I left basically because I worked on myself, and by the end of it, I was like [ __ ] this. I don't deserve this [ __ ]. Yeah, so honestly, he could do whatever he wants. I think. Have you ever considered having a glow-up? What do you mean? I don't know. You have to choose between their standards, but what do you? I don't know, like doing a whole like makeup thing, like just like, where did that even come from? I felt I was like, I'm so confident. What happens is when you know when women, it men do this too, like they'll suddenly break up and get super fit and ripped. Sure. Like your reaction is, you know, like not to like, you know, get all prettied up and stuff. You know, why is that? What is this? No, I'm just kidding. Makeup and [ __ ]. I mean, I lost a lot of weight. I did start. Yeah, I started taking care of myself, and I focused on myself, which I never did because I was constantly focused on him and how I can be a better person in general. I love that for him. Yeah, so for you anyway. Then I started focusing on myself, and it was great, and it still is. So no rebound. I mean, I for women, like you said, you're a comedian. I know you're just like kind of playing around, but yeah, I'm just [ __ ] around. You don't want to look like a female comedian, also. No, I don't. Yeah, you don't want two of those things. So no, you're right. That's why I lost weight. Yeah, you're gonna have to start getting dolled up. It's just part of the game. Well, okay. The reason I didn't do anything is because I was on a plane in North, like it took me forever to get here. I'm not going to like. No, not now. I'm saying like in, you know, to attract future men, eventually your husband basically. I mean, I do get dolled up. It's just I've just been on an airplane. Oh, no. Yeah, no worries. Like 7 hours, so I don't. No, I'm just saying in general, not saying now. Wait, do you have a? Do you have a Twitter? No, I have a throwaway Twitter. Yeah, I have a throwaway. But you said you have fans like from where? Like what's your plat? Do you have a platform? Um, I have Instagram and [ __ ]. There's people like feel like you're not telling us something because I don't know. I don't know. It's not like super top secret. I just don't know how to explain it without sounding like I don't know. You have a cult. Well, if you want to, if you want to find a man, the worst possible thing you can do as a woman is try to be a comedian. I just like making making people laugh. I'm like the Joker. Yeah. Is that what he says? Does he like being making people laugh? I'm. You're proving your point. Proving my point. What? It's my bad. What? It's first time in my head. Yes. Okay, that should be your priority. Yeah, I don't give a like I don't. I'm not. This is not my destiny or my fate. I just like, in my opinion, a comedian. Do you have a set? I didn't have a question. I don't. I said I'm a comedian. It's hyperbolic. She doesn't. I don't have. Wait, do you do stand-up or? No, I I. Wait, what? We didn't understand your cryptic multiple references. Yeah, you should have read my mind. This is what I'm talking about. Yeah, you should have. But wait, where where is your platform? What is happening? I don't have. I'm not a comedian. I have an Instagram. Yeah, but you have like 600 followers. Yeah, I don't have. That's why she said I'm an underground comedian. Oh, you're just being. Oh, so was that a joke too? Yeah, I'm just being stupid. She's just a silly girl. I thought you had like a. Yeah, I'm just a silly girl. I thought you had like an audience or something, like even if it's small, like, but maybe it's not my audience right now. Is it like Truth Social? Truth Social? I don't know. Are you a Republican or what's your polit? I thought you actually were a comedian. You actually look like the type who suddenly brings out a ukulele and does like a cute song and like, I don't like that. Talk to a sloth today. You don't like ukuleles? I don't like being associated with ukuleles. That's [ __ ]. That's not good. What about banjos? That's actually, I agree with that a little bit better. Ukuleles are pretty like, it used to be cool. There was like a moment there where they had like a corny a place and then. Yeah, it's true. Like the type of people who pick up a ukulele, it's just. Yeah, you just run. Yeah, yeah. You just don't know who you are yet. No commitment unless you're Hawaiian. That's fine, but if you're making [ __ ] cover songs on YouTube, it's like. Yeah, with a ukulele. Cringe. Yeah. All right, boys, you got to do a 23 super chat. I don't know what's going on with Streamlabs. Jim Bob, if I chair one, the shoulders are similar. Damn it. See what's wrong with your shoulders? Is that supposed to be rude? Well, on my channel, they started this meme where I have really narrow shoulders, and then I started believing it a lot, and then it sent me to the gym, which proves that shame works so nice. I think I just have a giant head. That's. It's not actually totally narrow shoulders. What do you guys think? Getting body dysmorphia now? I think I guess we're done. Was it normal shoulders? Giant head? Something like that? A small shoulder like a caricature. I'm just. You know what? I'm going to have uh, Sammy, you're in charge of reading these. Okay. Oh, okay. Into the mic if you can. Chair two. Metal detectors must hate you, huh? What's it like going through the airport security with you? Am I supposed to answer that? I don't know if you could or not. Fine. Oh, I'm not sure what else to say. Have you been on an airplane or? Yeah, of course. Do they have, do you have to take out all the piercings or they just? The last time that I went on an airplane, the only reason why they kicked like they had to like basically strip me down and like, you know, do like the metal detector thing or whatever is because I had a stone underneath my wig. A stone underneath your wig? Oh, like the stone energy thing? Yeah, yeah. And they were like, "Uh, what's underneath there?" And I was like, "Girl, I forgot I was there." That's awesome. That's so awesome. You're like, "What's under this wig?" It's just a rock, and you're like, "I forgot." Chair three. Socials. Chair three socials. I need new comedy. What is Truth Social? What is that? No, they're asking social. Never mind. Sorry. Tell me what's your Instagram? Oh, Andrew's beer. No, they actually have good beer here. Andrew drinks [ __ ] beer. I wasn't listening. Andrew's a guy. Gross. My Instagram is [ __ ]. It's just fu.c.k. Okay. Sweet. Uh, read this one. Chat is starting the Hashtree 2 movement. Yo, thank you, Cat, for the super chat. Appreciate it. Tree too. Yeah, he's not. No, I'm not. He. They don't have his beer. Read it though. You got to read it. Jim Bob. Andrew will literally fight you if you are drinking his beer. Sweet. Okay. Uh, go ahead. Shout out to Charlotte, North Carolina, but we have plenty of mid chicks here. Don't worry. He's just running through. Does that? How does that make you feel? What? Never mind. Who bear? Okay, read this. Give a [ __ ] bear or man highlights delusion or prejudice with a woman. It's a bear's nature to kill you. It's a man's nature to protect you. I recommend you remind them of this after they answer the question to test their logic again. I mean, it depends. That the bear could be pretty nice. Tiffany, read this one. Depends. True. Just messing. Alien Sugar Maple said he gave you all his branches for DP, yet you're still ghosting him. Personally, I don't think I could eat pancakes with syrup again. Disgusting. Thank you, Christopher. Oh, Tiffany, can you read this? These? Yeah. The test of a woman is childbirth. The test of a man is a woman. A man must be in control of himself and his woman, but a woman cannot be controlled like like a man controls another man. It's more like controlling a nervous dog. H. Thank you for that honest a-hole. I appreciate it. Okay. Uh, Tyrie Santgo. Thank you. Fisher too. All it takes is a giant magnet, and your face is done. I have a magnet in here if you want to. Okay, if you want to. It's not going to do anything. So are they mag? Are they magnetic? No, no steel. What what what is that? Is it Peter and steel? It's just uh, sterling silver. Sterling. Yeah, but it's not magnet. Yeah. Sterling's not magnet. All right, read this one. Chair 3's textbook definition of adorable. My favorite Minecraft biome is Tiger. I'd appreciate you forever if you organize my chest room. And chair 2 reminds me of the song Monster by Reckless Love. That's what's up. Oh, there you go. Sounds like a potential theme. I enjoy organizing them, so got. Tiffany. Tiffany's nickname after her glow-up will be Toothpick Tiffany. The [ __ ]. Oh, I take that as a compliment. I will say that adorable is definitely a ukulele thing. That is. Yeah. Wow. I'm a little on the fence about that one. Yo, Seth, thank you for the $20 super chat. Appreciate it, man. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Reminder uh, we're doing $20 super chat roast session, so uh, if you want, get it in. It's through YouTube, unfortunately. I don't know why Streamlabs isn't working, so yeah. Uh, read this one, Tiffany. Jim Bob. W. Black bears are 13% of the population but commit 50% of all attacks. Girl, that rage quit needs to buy a burka. Chair one. Toll status. Chair two. No words necessary. Chair three. Looks like a feminist lesbian. Jos, are you are you a feminist? No, I actually thought you were. I did judge you when you walked in. I was like, finally, the hardcore feminist comes in. I gave myself a really shitty haircut. Um, I I did it myself. I [ __ ] hate it. I thought one of you tonight was going to say end the patriarchy. Absolutely. And nobody said it. No. Is there anybody? I'm right-wing. Still no. Nobody. But yeah, I [ __ ]. Tier five is kind of creepy. Is that me? Yeah, that's. Why am I creepy? Justin Martins's why is she creepy? Why you? Bro, are you talking [ __ ] about Tiffany, dude? Are you? Maybe I was a creepy. Yo, two, are you talking [ __ ] [ __ ] about Tiffany, Justin? Yeah [ __ ]. We will both match you. White me and Tiffany, bro. We rep the same podcast. Thank you, Justin Martins. Oh my god, there's so many coming in. They are crazy. Okay. Uh, read this one, tiff. T Dog, you should smile more. Smell more, Sammy. But I wouldn't be able to able to round them either. However, when are you going to be open that black back door? LK. Oh, that's haram. Um, if you're talking about what I think you're talking about, I don't think I'll ever do that kind of content. I'm sorry, guys. I just don't do that weird [ __ ] for real. Wait, is this? Do you think the first part though is? Do you think it's because she's? I don't know. A lot of my people, a lot of my people say I need to smile, dude. I don't know if it's the old man white toothpick thing, but I think it's just something they tell me. Yeah. The second part, I don't understand. I wouldn't want to be around them either. Yeah, I'm not sure about the beard, too. It's hard to take you seriously when you have a single ball Newton's pendulum swinging from your nose. Not to mention the other sharp nail on your face. Shrapnel. Shrapnel. Shrapnel. All right, thank you. Uh, we have this one. My wife asked me why I don't help out with the dishes anymore. I told her that it's illegal for men to compete in women's sports. That's supposed to be funny. I like that one. That's a good. I like that one. That's like a good old-school joke. That's a. Yeah. Where can we get that [ __ ] hot Aloa shirt, JB? I heard you got it from you got some coming soon at Made by Jim Bob shop. I do sell shirts at madebyjimob.com. You bring me books but no shirts. But this is from Kawaii directly. A vintage shirt from Kawaii. I just couldn't resist. Jim Bob Bahama. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So which of you chicks has the fake knockers? Uh-huh. Oh, that's funny. Uh, from Butad. Shout out to Butad. Love it. Any any fake titties at the table? Tiffany, are you going to get some? No. You said you're getting plastic surgery. Just a nose. A nose job. Oh, okay. Whatever. For show. For show. Okay, we have. I have petitioned the court to modify the distance on my restraining order. For the love of God, I'm a tree, not a sex object. Yo, Otis Driftwood, thank you for the super chat, man. Appreciate it. Do you want to respond to that alien or no? No, I'm good. Alli Archer. Okay, thank you for the compliment. Appreciate it. Uh, hey, alien, maybe Jim Bob could make your next face piece. Uh, it's cuz I'm a jewelry maker. Oh, that's awesome. Question for the panel. What's your favorite crystal color? Crystal? I like rose quartz. Is that the one that's in front of you? Y see? I I get I got you. I know. I appreciate that. All right, thank you, Christopher. We have uh, this one. Tiffany, I'll have you read it. Tiffany, your nose is fine. Don't chop it off. Brian, love your show. Haven't missed one for about 18 months. Keep up the good work. Canadian $20. It is very nice. Thank you very much. Tabernac being cringe. My bad. Cher. Genuine question, not trying to be mean. How much weight have you gained since your last appearance? It looks like you ate your way through some redwoods. Um, I don't know. Hey, Tiffany, I have a question for you. Um, so you're very pro being skinny. If you could get rid of all fat people, but or wait, what's the trade-off here? Um uh, all fat. This would include me because I'm a little chubby right now. So [ __ ]. I wouldn't consider you fat though. I mean, I'm chubby. Wait, why? Bro, don't. I mean, damn, bro. He's like looking at me though. You guys are getting body dysmorphia tonight. Oh, yeah. What's the hypothetical? So get rid of all. Wait, question. You're Korean, right? Yeah. Did your? I feel like what from what I've heard from uh, people I've known who are Asian, but I've heard this from a Korean girl. She told me that like Korean parents, if their kids fat, will tell them they're fat. Like you're fat. You got to lose weight. Is this true? Like white parents will be like, "Oh my god, you're. Stop it. You're just so beautiful the way you are. Proud of you." But I feel like Asian parents are like going to lay down like they're brutal. Listen up, you [ __ ] failure. Yeah, lose some [ __ ] weight. But I think that's valid, bro. Good. They are brutal. Good. And you you got on top of it. So did your mom call you fat though? No, I was never fat. Oh, okay. I was always skinny. I just want to be skinnier. Did she say like you need to lose a couple pounds though? Did she say don't ever get fat? Did she say that like don't ever get fat? Yeah, like the threat of like don't ever. No, like a PSA. We have Sarah here. Go ahead, read it. Somebody besides me. That's Sarah. That's Tiffany. Read it. Ryan, if you're ever in Nashville, drinks on me. Nice. I'm never going to be in Nashville. I'm sorry. There's no reason for me to ever go to Nashville. Well, there's that one street, Broadway. The [ __ ] is. I think Daily Street there. That's like a whole. Oh, right. What if they invite you? Don't you want to get Ben Shapiro on? Come on, Brian. I mean, that'd be good for the show. That'd be an interesting. I will definitely get on the I will definitely get on the panel with all these hoes. I mean. Oh my god. Are you good? That's pretty good. That was too good. Uh, all right, guys, $20 roast through the YouTube super chats. We're switching it up because our Streamlabs is scuffed. Majorly scuffed. L Streamlabs. What the hell is going on? Can somebody test it though again? See if it's still not working because that's pretty frustrating. Um, let's see what else we have to do. Uh, get them in if you want, guys. We're going to get this wrapped up here soon. Well, then um, we did uh, the body count. We talked about that. Um, what's everybody's orientation? What was it? Oh, like pronouns. Trisexual. Like are is anybody here by? I'm bisexual. So some of your bodies are are women or you didn't count like when you said what? 11? Yeah, I didn't count it women. And I only had I only had body count was 11. I've only been with one girl, and I did not count her in that because we did not necessarily sleep together. It was actually for a collab. I had mentioned her in our messages, but. Okay, so not really. All right. MaVeli says, "Brian, bring on Alex Jones or Sam Hyde. Bring on Kanye." Sam Hyde would be funny. He would [ __ ] your [ __ ] up probably. Um, thank you, MaVeli, for the super chat. Appreciate. Excuse me. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Uh, okay. I guess f sort of final call super chat. Send it in through YouTube. $20 super chat roast if you want to roast anybody. Where's the Felicity roast? Where's the Priscilla Pila? Where's the Pthilla? I miss Priscilla. You know what is? Wait, I swear I had a good question. [ __ ] awesome. I wanted to give Felicity a freaking compliment. Actually, you look like Poppy to me. You're so

Pretty. Who's Poy? She's a singer. Oh, wait, you look just like her. She's really pretty. She's a singer. She's like a rock singer. Don't worry about it. Have you ever seen Camp Rock? Wow, that's kind of… Honestly, bro, that's kind of an insult. Why you talking [__] to Felicity? How was that an insult? She's… You're saying she looks like Poppy. I would literally get [__] for Poppy, so I'm… I don't know who Poppy is. I have to look at a picture. You should look it up. She's great. She's great. Damn, bro, that's an insult. That's a [__] insult. She's gorgeous. She's a gorgeous woman. That's an insult. That's an insult to Felicity. I mean, I'm not insulted. I don't know, but you remind me of Tess from… also from, um, Camp Rock.

Do you want… Do you want to direct maybe a couple compliments towards Jim Bob here because I feel like he needs some compliments? I have compliments for like all the ladies. I love your shirt, Jim. Thank you. Appreciate that. Your head is proportionate to your shoulders. Oh my gosh, I am clipping that. That's forever. Let's replay it over and over. Uh, okay. Name taken says, "Brian, you're fatter and gayer than DSP." No, just kidding, bro. Love you. Love it. Who's DSP? No idea. Another rapper. DSP seems like a lot of… I'm fatter and gayer. Maybe it's Dolly Parton and her middle name is Sarah or something. What if I'm straighter than him? I could be straighter than him. Who's having a straight off all of a sudden? Wait, no idea who that is. Fat, gay guy. I'm trying to think of a fat, gay dude. Why you doing this, bro? Okay, thank you for that. Dude from Mean Girl. You're welcome. Uh, is there anything else we had to do? Um, Tiffany, what is the… Oh, I wanted to ask this. What is… of your, like, girl, you know… maybe you heard… you… you were in high school, girl. You know, this is for the whole panel. What's the highest body count you've heard from a girl? Let's start with you, Sammy.

Um, the highest I've heard from a girl is about in the 50s, and she was my age, and that was last year, so I was 18, so she was 18, and she had 50. Damn. Okay. What about you, Alien? It's someone you know, right? Yeah, yeah. Just confirming, right? Because there's… Yes, he said someone you know, like a friend. Yeah, yeah. Oh, someone… Yeah, like uh, maybe you went to school with them or… Oh, okay. I think about like 40. 40. Okay. I don't know if I've ever like… I don't know if anyone's ever bragged about that to me, or you heard about… like you were in high school and some girl did the whole football team. Sure, but I don't know. I don't want to give you a fake answer. I just don't know. Okay, that's fine. What about you, Slip My Tiffany? I think around the 50s. 50s. Felicity, you know some trumpets. Yeah, she said like 65 or 70s, somewhere around there. How old is she? Uh, she was 29 at the time. Yeah. Oh. Tiffany, just tilt your mic like uh… actually, wait, Tiffany, wait, sorry, Felicity. Nice. Uh, do you want to just take that seat? That's probably… it's probably easier to get you in frame a little bit. Uh, okay, cool. And we have Wi-… wait, what's up? Wifi. Andrew said you don't have to replace the beer if you square up with Snotch. Chain. Is Andrew streaming, or… I don't know. No, I don't… I don't think so. Maybe he was, though. Uh, okay. We have Christopher. Brian, California is a huge L move. Move the stream to Florida. Get with the program. Uh, California's… I feel like California's behind enemy lines, like that's where you want to be. You know what… what would be the alternative, though, if you were to choose like one state, city to do the show? Oh, well, to do the show, I would move it to Los Angeles. LA. It'd be way easier to have, like… Santa Barbara's out of the way, two hours out of the way. Uh, LA, major hub, entertainment, uh, you know, people are actors, whatever, content creators are out there. I could probably… I could probably do three shows a week. Uh, well, in terms of guest booking, I would be able to book for three shows a week. Uh, it would be way easier. But yeah, what's stopping you from doing it? I want to live in LA. That's true. That's a downside. That's a downside. Santa Barbara, while being in… while being in California, Santa Barbara is… yeah, is nice. We did… here, I'm g… Tiffany, I'm going to have you read this one. Brian, burritos or do you miss wearing flannel more? Wow, that's a good… I want to get back to the flannel, so uh, that would be nice. Uh, this is below the threshold, but why not? We'll do it. Can Jim Bob, as Bernie Sanders, ask the panel, "Would you date me, Bernie, for one of my mansions?" Look, hold on. Look, ladies, would you want to date me if I had $50 billion? You all deserve abortions. What the [__]? The drudgery of listening to that guy. It's like… it's like arduous. It's like horrible. Uh, this is for Jim Bob, if you can read it, Tiffany. Jim Bob, when you shrug your tiny shoulders, does it inflate them years? That is true. Felicity, I'm going to have you… wait, what the… I'm gonna… Okay, good luck, Felicity, on this one. Wow. Tiffany. Socials. Brian. Aie host. What is this? Dalis Cuba. Follow the election. We about to become China. Help follow. Okay, Andre. Thank you. Mercy Buku. My TikTok's real x NY. I love that for you. Uh, read this one, Felicity. Chair three. I will take you, and I will take you in and fix you, but if and only if Slip My Mind was a Kids in the Hall reference. Okay, I don't think she… Oh, yeah, Kids in the Hall. No, I love Kids in the Hall. I mean, it's been years, but that's their intro song is dope. Okay, it's all coming back. Uh, Felicity, read this one. Felicity, can we see that Matty cap? No. Simple. Can I put it on? No. He's got to… You got to send in a $69 super chat if you want to see Felicity in the uh… in the… this one. Uh, you want me to read it? Top 1% needs to make more than 500K. It's at… it's a… at least 1 million in some areas. You grew up hardly in top 10%, girl. You need to wake up to reality. Sassy girl. Girl, you need to wake up to reality. Thank you, Maze, for the super chat. All right, guys, if you want $20… uh, Rose. Wait, I was gonna… wasn't I gonna ask a question or something? [__] What was the question I asked earlier? I think you asked if people were lesbians. I think that's something that was asked. Uh, [__] That's a good memory. Wait, hold on. I have in my notes here, one sec. Let me… let me get this. Orientation. Orientation. Orientation. That's true. Asked about that. Oh, wait. I have something. Hold on. One sec. One sec. Lids. So it is… um… [__] Damn it. I think I can't find it. That's unfortunate. Uh, wait, what? Sorry, guys. One sec. I'm trying to find… I… I wrote notes. Floundering. Totally… totally dropping the ball here. Well, okay. Can't find it. Uh, go ahead. Uh, Tiffany, read this one. Trump 2028. The tariffs will work. Give it time. Our Republic's… Our Republic… Republic is worth it. America first. Chair three seems based but looks like a lib. I know it sucks. It's my [__] hair. My glasses. Who did you vote for? I hate my hair. Who did you… oh, okay. All right. Absolutely. Oh, okay. Why is that weird? Oh, hey, look, it's… is this Andrew? Yeah, that's it. That's Andrew. Oh, hey. What's up? What's up, Andrew? Can you do a uh… Can you do a Shapiro versus Peterson debate, but Snot knows… who's Snot knows? Is that… Oh, the snot. Yeah, I thought that… Dirty Trees. Shapiro is pro… okay, wait, so hold on. So who's pro dirty with the trees? Shapiro's pro… okay, look, as long as it's not hurting anyone, I don't see any problem with uh… molesting the trees. I mean, they can't consent. That means they can't say no. Well, that's really [__] up. You know, it's like… it's not about consent, it's about whether or not there's a hole that's appropriate for your wiener. Wiener. It's like [__] Jordan. Sounded like you forgot to do… You forgot to do this. Good job. It's like you're going up there in the woods molesting the trees and the bark. Well, I don't see any problem with it. I mean, liberty above all. Right. Yeah. Just the… Ben was amazing. Uh, it's indistinguishable. We got to get Jordan Peterson on the show. Why not? You could… I reached out. I tried to get Michaela on. Now you just got to keep bugging them. Awesome start. Yeah, I think we need Rachel Wilson to debate uh… Michaela Peterson. That would be a good episode. That wouldn't be good. That would be dope. Okay, let's see what else we have to get through. Um, let me just double check my notes here. Uh, do you have a… do you have a question you want to pose to the panel? I… I was hoping to get a super anti-atriarch, but none of you… none of you ladies took the position, so… wait, what is it? You know, like… you know, you get this common, like… kill the patriarchy. End the patriarchy. I was… I was betting that that was going to come up, but it didn't come up, so I'm at a loss for words. When you said, you know, you sound like Jordan again, I thought you were still on a roll. No, but cool story. Sorry. Hold on. I'm still trying to find the thing. I had… I had like a million things I wanted at… freaking… not a million things, but let me shout out a couple people really quick. Uh, guys, if you want 100% of your contribution to go towards us, Venmo, Cash App, whatever. Pod. We have Colin. No, I already did. McRocker. Thank you for the 12. Matt, thank you for the five. Thank you, man. Really appreciate it. Mercy Buku. Uh, let's see here. One sec, guys. Uh, wait. Okay. What? Can you read this one, Tiffany? Me and my bros think that chair one is a five, chair three is a five, chair four is a five, chair five is a five. The one that rage quit had nice bubba and cake, but her crazy obnoxious attitude put her at a three. Cure to hell to the… no, no. Wow. No. Pasty George. Thank you for the Canadian 20. Men. Anybody want to respond? He's calling y'all fives. I don't care what he calls me. Yeah, I don't really care. Anybody… wait, can you rate me? Are you down to rate me on a scale of 1 to 10? You want me to rate you? Rate me. My books… I didn't say rate. I said rate. Um, it's just my tongue that makes it sound like I'm not saying the correct words. Um, but I don't know, man. Go ahead. I won't be offended. Like… and so I'm just judging you off of your looks, right? So you're not going to be offended? No, you can… you can tell me I'm a one. I won't be offended. Go ahead. No, I think you're pretty average, so like a five, but you're 15, right? So like… you would be settling for me. I don't see it as that. No, but you're 15. It doesn't matter. So you're like… that's 10 points difference. It doesn't matter. You'd be settling in looks, though. I mean, if you see it that way. I don't really value looks like that. How many wigs do you have? Multiple. Like, how many, though? I don't know. Like, I have like 10. 12? Is it all like My Little Pony stuff, or do you have like a normal… a normal… Do you ever do like a normal day? No. Never. Not really. No. Duran Dolls. That's rare. Gifted 10 subs. Thank you so much for the gifted 10 subs. Durand Dolls. Am I saying your [__] right, dude? Am I saying your name right? I might be [__] that up real bad. We have Nessen NYC. Tiffany, on the bear question. What bias women usually don't understand. The majority of essays happen with someone she knows, not strangers. Also, rage quitter proves higher education is a scam. Oh, dude, she has a master's. Say that in USC, too. Yeah, that's a yikes. Actually, wait, what did… what did she have her master's in? Public uh… policy or what was it? Administration. Public admin. God damn. She ain't poetry, though, dude. Let's hope she's never administrating something. Can I just say something? I just think that that's [__] about like… it just being typically someone you know. It's like… it could literally be anyone. It doesn't matter if you know them or not. It's just the majority. I don't… it's like my personal experience is like people I don't know, either. You know what I mean? And like I said before, it's for me personally, it's been men and women, you know, so it's not like… it's not that simple to me. I'm sorry, what? Well, you kind of… you… we're talking about essay… oh, yeah. Go ahead. But you do give off a kind of a vibe that says I don't really care in general about anything. That's not true. I'll go off. I'm just saying, like your view is like… if you hold a view that you just annihilate all human beings, you don't really value life. I don't think you really value your own life that much. And so I value my life. Yeah, but you don't value human life because you'd be willing… you said in this podcast you'd be willing to annihilate all of us. You don't care. So… so why would… why would the aggressor, you know… if you gave off that sort of vibe to people, why would they… why wouldn't they take advantage of that? I mean, I don't care to appeal to other people that treat me like [__], and the majority of people have treated me like [__], so I don't really care. Has… Has Jim Bob treated you like [__]? Um, I'm sure that he's keeping whatever thoughts he has about… to himself. Thoughts. Yeah, whatever. No, actually, the first thing I thought about was… I think I was like, "Oh, this person has probably been through a whole lot." Uh, yeah. I don't like that misconception. That's also like a… Is it true, though? I mean, I've been through a lot, but I like… a lot that other people look at… like people who look like me and think, "Oh, you have to add this to trauma." Like, oh, this is all because of trauma. Well, it just happens to be pretty consistent when people sort of like… what I… what I would consider some sort of like um… attack on their… their… their face… like people who do full face tattoos or like um… what you're doing to your face. Um, I think that's like a communication to the world. And so I could either be right or wrong, but what I perceive is… oh, this person is like… been through a lot of [__]. Yeah. Telling you that you're wrong… like it's not wrong that I've not been through a lot of [__], but I just think that if you're basing your perspective off of what I look like, I just think that you're wrong, and I also think that's coming from a negative perspective. And yeah, but if I'm… I can't be right and wrong. I asked you if I'm right, and you said yes. Well, I mean, I've been through a lot, but that doesn't mean… just because I look like this… that… because I know people who also been through a lot, and they don't look anything like me, so it doesn't matter. What I'm saying is that the way that you're perceiving me for just how I'm looking is actually offensive. What do you mean? You don't expect people to look at you and have a particular reaction? No, 'cause I don't look at other people and think that way. That's not what determines it. If you particularly look a certain way and on purpose present yourself in a way that's completely atypical, you're actually acting like it's some sort of like transgression for people to go, "Oh…" Because how I see is that whenever I look normal, people were still bullying me and treating me like [__] no matter what. So I feel like if you're going to just bully me no matter what, I might as well just look the way that I… that… Yeah, that's kind of what I picked… like you gave me the space to look like this, so now you're saying because I look like this now, like I deserve like this type of treatment. Like saying it's just… I didn't say you deserve it. It's always been that way, so it doesn't really matter what I look like. I'm saying that that's what I picked up from you. I could either be right or wrong. I'm totally fine being wrong, but my experience was… oh, this person is communicating something to us with the way they look, and the communication is… correct me if I'm wrong… of how I look is just… I like art. And that's… I don't think that's true. I think it's… I don't… I think the communication is… I don't give a [__]. No, I give a [__]. You don't. You give a [__], but in this podcast you said you'd be totally fine annihilating all humans. That doesn't make any sense. I give a [__] about myself. Yeah, that's the vibe I got. Okay, like… I'm not understanding what you're asking. So you only care about yourself? Um, at this point, for the most part, yeah. Like, I don't really care about other people that much. Yeah, that's exactly the vibe I got. But you're saying that I don't give a [__] about myself? No, I said you just don't give a [__]… if you don't give a [__] about… I don't give a [__]… like, what are you saying? If you don't give a [__] about anybody… about yourself, why should anyone give a [__] about you? Because other people have already treated me like they didn't give a [__] about me, so why should I give a [__] about other people? The last time I came here, the other… the people that I was talking to were saying like, "Oh, it feels like you're giving too much of yourself to other people." Not really. D… I'm… I'm… I'm a nice person. Doesn't matter. Whatever… what… how other people perceive me or whatever, but like… at the end of the day, like… I just get treated like crap no matter what. I think you are a nice person. I just think you're hurting. I'm not… okay. Whatever. I could say the same thing with you wearing that shirt, but touche. Wow, that was a roast. So, Tiffany, what do you think about Sammy? A typical woman. Typical… you. She's not like special or anything. She's just typical to you. Um, I mean, she does OnlyFans, so I mean… Sammy, are you going to let her talk to you like that? It's all right. She… in her head, she's in the top 1%, and I'm in the top 1% on OF, so it's drama. Oh, snap. Boom. Mic drop. Tiffany, how do you feel about that? Um, most women are… are leftists, so I mean… doesn't really make you a top 1%. Tiffany, will you arm wrestle Sammy? No. Sammy's strong. Why not? You think she's going to beat you? How much is it? I mean, you kind of… like the weight class is different. Yeah, you're a lot skinnier than me, like you said, so you might be a little too weak. I mean, Sammy, you're probably lighter… you're probably lighter than she is. Yeah, probably. Sorry, this is so… I'm probably where she wants to be at. So would you pref… like… is that your goal weight? Is… how much do you weigh? Like 93, but I'm also a lot shorter, so it kind of… I feel like you have that like root strength. I want to be 93. I feel like you have like… I can't say you are strength. No. Yeah, I used to do a lot of sports. Like… I mean, gingers are super strong. Redheads super… I stay away from redheads. I don't even let my kids play with them. You said you fight or do wrestling? I had a crackhead tell me about… I did gymnastics and softball and the simple stuff. But that's dope. Anyway, I had a crackhead tell me about Nephilim theory, and it was just like this whole thing about gingers and how they're fallen angels and [__]. I usually don't listen to crackheads, but they are on to something. They are on some of this. Probably. All right, guys. Last call on the uh… the super chats. Last call. Uh, we'll read these. We'll let a few more come through, then we're going to wrap. Uh, Tiffany, do us the favors made by Jim Bob. One of the best parts of California is In-N-Out Burgers. I hope you go. Thank you for the show, Brian. I love the impressions, Jim Bob. Thank you, Jeff. Yeah, I lived in LA for 15 years, but the cool thing is where I am in… in uh… Colorado, we got a brand new In-N-Out Burger. Appreciate that. Let's go. Hell yeah. Got this one from Crucible from Andrew. Bob Shapiro versus Nasatard on why tree boning in Mars is appropriate due to the loss of the technology. What's going on, Andrew? What's mad that I called it… is Andrew… I think he's mad that I called him a big mouth character. Um… uh… oh… oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So uh… look, if we make it to Mars and we find life, the best thing to do is procreate, even if it's a tree. Well, I don't think that that's possible. We shouldn't do that. You guys wouldn't know who this is. His name is Don Pettit. I don't think you should touch and digle trees like that. Ben Shapiro, you're a sick, sick man. Thanks, Andrew. Appreciate that. Andrew is definitely shitfaced, though, by the way. Nice. There's no way he's not. Look at that spelling. I mean, look at that sentence. Yeah, he's definitely scuffed. Cat says, "Stats don't care about personal experience." Yo, Cat, thank for the super chat. Appreciate it. Uh, J E and Brian, I petition for whatever flannel shirt line. Uh, yeah, that would be cool. Honestly, though, merch is uh… I don't know. Merch is kind of like low priority for us, but hey, shop.what… whatever.com if you want to get some merch. But yeah, we… we kind of like don't really pry the merch too much. All right. $20 super… soup chat roast via YouTube. Final call, guys. We're going to get this wrapped up here uh… momentarily. Wow. This might be one of our shortest… I don't know. The last time… I'm going to try to just end it sub uh… 6 hours. That's super short. You guys are lucking… lucking out actually tonight. Hey, it's good. If that girl was still there, though, it would have been like a 10-hour show. So for real. Uh, I actually don't mind having… it's been a pretty crazy couple weeks. I don't mind a little shorter show. Yo, Par, thanks for the prime, man. Appreciate it. Uh, thank you. Thank you, Picara. All right. Any final thoughts from any of the panelists before we get this wrapped up? Final thoughts. Speak now. Any topic. Final thoughts? Anybody. Uh, go follow me at Made by Jim Bob on every platform. Go follow Jim Bob. Go follow um… Tiffany's Feetfinder. Follow my TikTok. Follow Val's Instagram. You got a… we call it Tumblr or some [__] I don't know. I did yikes. I'm on TikTok as Alien Spores, and I'm on Instagram as… That's what's up. Do you do like TikTok live streams where you just talk? Just… I just go to work, and then I turn that [__] on and talk to people. Love it. Okay. I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give a call to action. Would you, Sammy, consider stopping sex work entirely tonight? For what? Your soul? Are you going to pay my bills or what? Is… no. But I hear North Carolina has a Popeyes. I have already… they've got Waffle House. I have already been there for a collab for OAF, so I've already done all that [__] Sonic. Do they have Sonic in North Carolina? Sonic in Florida, where I'm from. I don't think there's Sonic in California. Is there? I don't know. There's… I've never had Sonic. I don't know. I honestly… if you want my opinion, dude, I don't view it as sex work, but that's because I don't post like corn and stuff like that. Like my OF isn't that… like you can't go on there… there's no BG content. Not posted. No… not posted. No. Ah, so you send it in the DMs. It's a little different, though. You know, it's different. You've sold videos of you having sex with…

Men on camera? No, don't say men, plural. Just my boyfriend. I don't do none of that. Amen.

Okay, fine. Amen, singular. But it's not—I literally have enough tapes I can count on one hand. Like, literally, like four or three. Like, I don't have like—That's not my whole profile. My—okay, but my profile—sex work. The profile is me. Even if you didn't do that, it would be sex work. I did sex work five times, and guess what? I'm still—

No, it's not that you did it five times. You are a sex worker.

Okay, yeah, sure, if that's what you want to call it. It—it's literally sex work. That is what you want to call it. Would you consider stopping sex work tonight, right now, on the show?

For what, dude? Your soul? I don't have one. I'm Ginger, for one.

That's a fair point. She does have a point. And I mean, honestly, like it's not even just cuz I don't want to go back to working, cuz I loved working. I hated having to quit my job, cuz I only quit my job like, literally a month and a half ago to like continue—

Wait, remind me, how long have you been doing OF?

Since December. So about four months.

Four months. It's the only reason that it just helps with money, and you don't care at this point what the—

So honestly, I really don't care. I—I view it as—I am like—what's the word for it? Don't say poetry. No, but I'm taking advantage, you know, um, of what is literally already on my social media, the comments I get, you know, the stuff people say. I feel like my niche is people think I'm [__] 14. I don't understand why, but they do.

That might be one—don't play me—that I have a problem with it, too.

Yeah, but you're—but you're playing into it.

No, I'm not.

No, you just—you just admitted that like you're—

No, no, no. What I was going to say is that those comments are there anyway, so it's either I profit off of it and I just make an account and I get paid—you're playing—or I don't.

Jim, you had something.

Well, it's like it'll happen anyway, so it's make money off of it or sit there and [__]. No matter what.

No, no. Porn doesn't—

No, the comments don't make you create content, for instance.

No, no, no. I wasn't saying that. I'm saying like people saying certain things about me are always going to be there, so no matter what content I do, it's going to be the same outcome no matter what, so it's—I profit off of it and I take advantage of it rather than just being at home.

You can pretend to be a dwarf and make just as funny, good content that's not pornography. My content's not weird. My content has like nothing to do with that stuff, really. That's what I'm saying. I don't try to post like that.

I think you should just present yourself as a dwarf and and do fun things that are wholesome.

And I try to do my car stuff, you know. And then all the little dwarfs who are the real dwarfs, they're going to say they're the real ones; they're going to come after you. Then you create this big huge like drama.

Wait, that's smart. That's seriously—you can be a dwarf, redheaded dwarf, ginger dwarf, bakes cakes. You don't have to sell sex; you just have to make enemies with the real dwarfs. Be the Shirley Temple of Dwarfs. Pretty much for sure. You don't need to—you don't need to do that stuff.

Too lazy to work is crazy. Mr. Jimmy says, "Chair one is just too lazy to work; easier to be a hoe for money."

Yep. Actually, I worked till I was like 15, until now. I grew up from [__] nothing and like literally lived in a shed by myself, and now I live completely on my own with two cars—one a Supra, one a Toyota 86. I'm doing perfectly fine.

You sound like Wes Watson right now. On the track to make everything I have assets. Everything I own, you know, is going to benefit from me, but don't worry about it. It's okay.

Wait, do—do you uh—your boyfriend helps you out with shooting the stuff? Does he get—does he get some of it?

Um, he gets—I mean, he works, so he does his own stuff that he likes to do, cuz he likes automotive too. But does he take the photos? Does he blur his face? No. Is—has it already started that he's uh—saying, "Hey, what about this idea?"

No. New chicks? No. It's all my idea. Um, he doesn't see any problem with it, but he's old enough; I think he's kind of past that, so he's—he's into dwarfs, basically.

Sure. And I'm into black men, so we get along very well. Um, I don't see any problem with what I do because it's easy, and I think it—you know, the world gets mad because it's easy, and I really don't give a [__]. So yeah, you guys can work—or I wouldn't say you, cuz you don't necessarily—but I just want you to make funny dwarf content.

Does though—like most people who like say stuff about it, they go and then they work 50 hours working for some man who tells them what to do. I just think you'd be less defensive if you made dwarf-centric content.

You may be right. Like—no, he's right. Yeah, I should just fake it. He's not wrong. Pretend to be a dwarf.

Wait, of the 11 bodies, how many of them are black?

Eyes? Three.

Oh, okay. So you've—I've—

Yeah, you've had variety. Yeah, Puerto Ricans. I've only dated one white guy, which was the guy who beat the hell out of me. That's why I don't like them no more.

They do be doing that.

I'm just kidding.

Yeah, understandable. Some of them do. Ah, strong Asian—um, I've never dated an Asian guy, but I love—

Okay, this is not towards you, bro, but I—my type in women, I love Asian women. I literally did a collab with this Asian girl, but she was trash. She was the worst person I've ever met in my entire life, and she was on here.

That one girl I told you about?

Which girl? Uh, Kenna? That one girl? Oh, she—or what? I mean, what is the [__]—

Oh, that's—

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. We literally—we collabed; we split everything like twice or whatever. We go to Colorado, then we go to Miami for two weeks. It's a two-week trip.

Did it smell—listen to this [__]. First of all, she kisses like this—what the [__] is even that? What the [__] is even that? I have—I have a screenshot to prove it. I am not lying on this. Then—so it seemed like, you know, she really wanted like—she was like—our content was different. Hers was extreme. Hers was, "Hey, I do this, this, this, this." Mine's not—mine's mediocre. Mine's light work. It's not crazy [__]. So I mean—so we're doing fine, and I go—I'm in Miami; I see a Supra that's in my budget, and I go and I buy a [__] Toyota Supra, and she's pissed off and arguing with her boyfriend there, and I'm like, "Hey, I'm sorry, like, I don't mean to keep you here for that long, like I really didn't mean to keep you here; it's a dealership." And then she goes home.

Oh my god.

Who the hell—do you know how to drive stick shift?

Yeah, I can drive five-speed, six-speed.

Okay, that's what's important. Yeah. And it's funny you put that whenever you're the one who [__] asked me, but anyways—no—then—

No, then let me tell you, so basically, she flew home cuz she got pissed I bought a car and made a video saying I wanted to be her, but I actually would hate to even look like her or act like her. So yeah, that's kind of what happened, and we're never going to collab again, obviously.

So damn—

Oh, that—I'm so sorry.

No, it's okay. But she was on here, and she was saying that like girls deserve to get paid to just be hot. See, I don't agree with that, like I actually put money and work into my content. Now, like I still have to go around like all of this, dude. Like, who do you think paid for this trip? I literally funded all this myself. I've been here for the last week and a half, you know what I mean? So it's like I can do things on my own. I've done it on my own. It's not just about hurrah and [__] show. So let's go.

Do you think Toyota Supras are that good of cars, though? The newer ones are kind of iffy.

I don't know yet, cuz you know, I just got one, but the BMW engine does throw me off a little bit. It scares me. But when you have Toyota, they're combing through everything, maybe it'll be reliable, but I did get the full engine and, you know, drivetrain warranty, cuz—

So you just produced more, better content than any pornography. Just a [__] with red hair talking about—better, but I just don't produce like corn, like, you know, I—I like to make it seem like my viewers and my subscribers are getting an inside view of my personal life, not just, "Hey, this is me with my shirt on."

Are you—do you race my car?

Yeah. Have you ever considered doing racing—kids? What, you know, like kid—you know, kids race little tiny—um, when they get trained to do F1 racing, they start with like little—

Oh, you mean like box car?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I did—um, a little something like that, you know. There's actually an Airbnb in California that's built for that; it has a track all around it.

Yeah. All right. Uh, Natalia gifted 50 whatever memberships. Natalyia—guys, W's in the chat for Natalia, guys. Thank you so much, Natalia. Welcome back. Good to see you. Thank you, thank you, Natalia. Guys, we need some W's in the chat for 50 gift—oh my goodness, Natalia is on fire. Oh, Andrew, you missed one. He's—I'll get to it. I'll get to it. Uh, and we have Cat—oh my god, she gifted 50—oh, it's like they're one-upping each other. Cat, Natalia, paddle—Natalia, Cat. Uh, thank you, Cat. Really appreciate the gifted 50 whatever memberships. W's in the chat for Cat. And then we have uh—Tiffany, can you read this one? He said Jim Bob must read.

Oh, okay, my bad. My name is Jim Bob. You can find me at Made by Jim Bob channel on YouTube and all other platforms. I'm a brilliant artist, comic impressionist, musician, and I'm terrible at marketing. Thanks, Andrew. Uh, all right, we have uh—Hold on, Tiffany, can you read this one? You're dumb if you think any modern politician cares about you. I'm rolling solo at this point because most people suck. Start your own business; support small/lo businesses; f greedy corporations. Good luck, Crisis King Archer. Thank you so much for the super chat, man. Uh, ask Sammy about the roster oven. What's this? I have no idea. I have literally no idea what that means. What is the roster oven? Oh, wait, it's because I blew up—that's—that's because I blew up my sister's toaster oven.

That's your sister?

That's your sister? Wait, who's Dan?

That's her husband, Dan. Oh, I blew up her toaster oven babysitting. Damn. What the hell? He's never going to let her go.

Dan, you need to tell us some more [__]—that—like some more property damage I was like 15 that she's done to you guys, cuz this sounds—this is like an abusive relationship. You're just like [__] up her toaster oven. What the [__]? Okay, uh, cool story, bro. I don't believe you. Chair one from Mr. Jimmy. That $20 was worth saying that, wasn't it?

I think it was super worth it. Now he's going to blast like five in a row talking [__]. Be—watch out. Okay. Miamoto Mousashi says, "Chair one, how exactly does one make it to the top 1% of OF while only sending sparse videos to people in DM? Seems a little sus because I know how to market, and I know how to sell by value, not price."

Wow. I was already in sales before OF. You don't think I know how to sell some [__]?

The [__]—the [__]—is that how they talk in North Carolina? Is that North Carolina?

Florida. Oh, Florida. Are you—where are you from?

The main streets of—

No, I'm from like North Central Florida, so like Orlando, you know—Bokea Raton? What—what? That was not English.

Bokeh—you don't know Bokea Raton is Florida?

Florida? I have no idea. You're—wait, you're—hold on, you're from—I've been to Florida once.

North Central Florida, so top middle. But have you heard of Bokeh Raton?

I have no idea what that is. Who here has heard of Bokeh Raton? Am I saying it wrong? Maybe a little bit. I don't know. You're from Florida, and you don't know about Bokeh? What a dumbass.

I'm just kidding. I hate when people do—I like—

Wait, you hate when people—what? It's like—I'm not in com because I haven't heard of something. Damn it. You've never seen that movie? Never? And like it's so funny how—yeah, it's funny how it's like a phenomenon where it blows the other person's mind like universally where they're like, you just haven't seen it, you know what I'm saying? Like—hold on, that's like if I lived in California my entire life and I never heard of Los Angeles. Maybe that's not a perfect one-to-one comparison.

That's a really popular city, though. Like that's like saying I don't know—then I've never—I've lived in California my whole life, and I've never heard of Santa Cruz.

Sure, but I don't know—that's probably comparable. Sure, you're from Florida, but it's like with anything. I just—it's like with anything. It's like a movie, I guess. It is. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, though. Tell us how you feel. That's—that's how I feel. Tell us how you really feel, Val. I'm just going to keep going. All right. I'm pretty sure that's it. Um, just double checking, making sure we got everything all in the clear here. Wait, what the [__]? What the—oh my god, I pinned the wrong thing. Oh my goodness, I pinned the wrong thing, like the video. Hold on, let me do that. God bless. What did I pin from John William? God bless Rachel and pray for her. Okay, I don't know why I pinned that. I mean, it's good, God bless Rachel, but I don't know why I accidentally pinned that. Okay, so are you willing to quit OF or no? Or is that just a no-go?

Uh, no. I'm okay. Actually, if you want to sub link in Instagram bio, disavow—

Okay. GG. Well played. Wait, well played. Wait, hold on. GG, well played. Oh, my—totally scuffed that. Okay, last call. Hit the like button, please, on your way out. Thank you guys for tuning in tonight. I really appreciate it. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and supports the show. Thank you to the wonderful panel. You guys made it to the end of the show. This is one of our shortest shows in a very long time, so congratulations, guys. I don't know if that's a compliment, though. Maybe that—no, I take it personal. You guys are so lacking conversationally that this show is our shortest in like over a year, so congrats. I'm glad we made it to the end. Good job, guys. Really proud of you. Okay, we will be live again Sunday at 5:00 p.m. Pacific. Any girls who want to be on the show, you can DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to Santa Barbara. Uh, 07's in the chat. Let me just double check, make sure we're all good here on everything. One moment, guys. Uh, yo chat, I have a question for you. I have a question—[__] what is it? I feel left out. Damn, there was like something I had to ask, but it's—I'm just forgetting it, and it's going to kill me if I don't ask it. Let me just double check my notes here really quick. Uh, Tiffany, are you a racist?

I don't know. No.

Oh, okay. Cool. Thank you for your contribution, Tiffany. Uh, let's see. Okay, we did Val's stuff; we did Alien; we did Sammy, not in that way. Uh, okay. Well, I'm just going to have to be upset that I forgot whatever I was going to—there's some sort of topic that we had—wait, there was a picture—wait, okay, no, we did that; we did that; did this. Okay. All right. Well, uh, guys, thank you for tuning in tonight. Uh, one sec, sorry that this is really awkward now because I'm trying—I—I'm trying to—there's something I'm forgetting. Did I talk about big labia? Yeah, I did. I talked about that ad nauseam. Only date—yeah, I didn't—not ad nauseam. There's a very limited—okay, like three or four times. All right, guys, like the video, please, on your way out. Um, thank you again, guys, for tuning in. Guys, can I see some 07s in the chat? 07s in the chat, boys. All right, guys, good night. Good night. We will see you guys next Sunday. Good night, guys. [__] it. We're going back, boys. Okay. Uh, Andrew just came in. You son of a gun. Uh, you were going to ask if I should move to Santa Barbara and become the official coast of whatever, and we go to twice a week and make banger content. Well, I mean, to add on top of that, we're also going to get you consistent one-v-one debates. Consistent one-v-one debates if you get out here to Santa Barbara. Andrew Wilson—W's in the chat for Andrew Wilson, the Crucible. Thank you, thank you guys so much. Okay, guys, hope you guys have a good night. 07s in the chat. Good night, guys.

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