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There is not one single recorded alien abduction of one single person that has ever prayed against it that it hasn't ended immediately. And like, what, what, what's that all about? What are you guys, what are you cats scared of? Oh, listen. They're scared of the name of Jesus. And they're scared of the reality that we actually know him and we can walk in that power and also walk in that authority.
Welcome to this week's episode of Going Rogue with Lara Logan. This is, uh, going to be a spectacular episode because it's about a subject that many people are very interested in. If you look at what's been happening with the Trump administration ordering an investigation and declassification into everything alien and beyond, um, their reports that have come out have had billions of views, right? So, we know that this is a subject that is very close to people's hearts and as, um, anyone in my audience knows, the truth is something that I care very much about. I have never been an alien believer. I'm sorry. Don't hold that against me. I know there's lots of people out there who'll be offended by that. However, um, what we're talking about now is actually an opportunity for humanity to get to the whole truth. And there has been, um, a number of two, two significant things that have happened recently that relate directly to this topic. And one of them is that, um, JD Vance made headlines when he came out and said that he doesn't believe, uh, that aliens are little, you know, in aliens that they're little green men. He thinks these sort of supernatural kind of forces are demons, right? And that, of course, is the well, uh, long-held biblical belief. That is why my guest today is, um, the very impressive, actually very funny. I don't know how many people know this, but Troy Brewer is not just a pastor, um, so he has that, that, um, theological background, um, but he is also, um, a very funny man. In fact, the first time I ever saw him speak, I was, um, I was dying laughing. Troy, it was very, it was very impressive and endearing, and especially when it was combined with the fact that you, um, have committed most of your life to rescuing kids from the terrible, terrible world of trafficking, which, you know, I hate using that word because it covers up the fact that we're talking about child rape, torture, and murder. That's really what we mean. But your numbers are the kind of numbers that give people pause. People like me pause, right? Because I know how hard it is not just to rescue kids, but also to make sure that they don't go straight back to the street or straight back into trafficking. And, um, your numbers are, you know, you're, you're, I know you're coming up on 13,000 kids being rescued over the past 30 years. And, um, that, you know, that's roughly over a thousand kids a year. And, um, and and that you have compound safe houses, really, um, with, uh, where a lot of these kids get a chance to, uh, to recover, right, and to heal and, um, and of course, everything is very much faith-based, is it not?
Absolutely. Yeah. I don't, I don't think that you can just do this as a humanitarian effort. I mean, where is that happening anywhere on the planet Earth that just people got together who don't love Jesus, they don't love God, and they decided they were just going to stop human slavery? Well, it just doesn't happen. So, I think also too, um, to turn these kids back over into government systems, uh, I don't trust the government systems and I don't care what government it is. And so we also raise them and there's not an age out, you know, so it's not like they got to get out when they're 18.
Yes. Which is what happens, you know, all over America, right?
Yeah. Which is really bad, Lauren, because because the porn industry actually gets a list of those kids and they know when they're going to get out at 18 and they go after them. They groom them. They go after them and say, "Hey man, we're going to, we're going to treat you like a star and all this." And then they get on drugs and then they go into pornography. Those are 18 sites. So everybody's like, "Hey, it's legal. It's 18." Yeah, those are vulnerable kids. Those are vulnerable teenagers who have no other place in the world to go because some monster offered that to them.
And, uh, yeah, I hate it. I have a holy hatred for it.
It's really quite distressing. I mean, as a mom, you know, I remember my daughter at 18, she certainly, she may have had, you know, legally being an adult, but she was still, she's still a kid in so many ways. So this idea that you just toss them out at 18 and expect them to fend for themselves when they're already vulnerable is just heartbreaking.
Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's not good. And Laura, we can just do so much better than that. We, we really can. We just, we raise them up and if they stay until their 20s, if they stay until their mid-20s, I don't care because they didn't even experience a childhood, you know, and, and depending upon what nationality we're in or depending upon, I don't know, depending upon the, the type of care that they need, you know, I, I just don't care. I, I, I don't care if they stay with us their whole life. I just don't. And so there's a lot of them that don't. There's a lot of them that just go to work for us and they become rescuers themselves. And, uh, yeah, we actually have a Nike executive that I rescued when she was 11 years old in the Amazon jungle and she's one of the top executives for Nike now. We have heart, we have a heart surgeon in Uganda. We have various doctors and pastors and teachers and things like that because we're way into our second generation now.
That's incredible. Okay. So, so you've got that side of your life, um, which is, you know, which is a whole story in itself. Um, but I wanted to talk to you today. Our conversation today is because you, this is something, this whole alien versus demons and angels conversation is one that you are very well-versed in. And, um, we are in a historic moment because this deception has been going on a very long time. And if you're somebody like me, what you, you know, you grow up, you're born into this deception. And so you have this sense that it has always existed, right? So, you hear about aliens and you think, right, okay, you think, oh, yeah, there's, there's always been aliens and of course there must be other forms of intelligent life out there. You know, of course, we can't be the only ones. That's logical. That makes sense. And then when you start to peel back the layers, what you find out is actually, no, ancient aliens is a modern construct. It has not been around forever at all. Yes, the supernatural demonic forces, those have been around from the beginning of time, but not actually the little green men are coming, you know, to invade the planet narrative, right? And so, it's interesting to me because we're going to talk about this, but Hollywood has played such a big role in this, um, since really War of the Worlds, right? Since the invention of radio and then television and then film, and we've gone through this, uh, life cycle, really, of, uh, of how we feel about aliens and life out there. And one of the people that was very instrumental in managing and shaping the change in our perception of aliens was, of course, Steven Spielberg, right? He's one of the most famous with Close Encounters of the of the Third Kind and of course with E.T., which was a film that, you know, I saw at my sister's birthday party and all her friends. My older sister laughed at me because I howled. I'm a big crier in sad movies. And, you know, the E.T. thing, it just tugged at your heartstrings and every kid wanted an E.T., right? I mean, aliens went from being this very scary thing to now being this thing that, wow, these are, these are beautiful creatures. They may not look like us, you know, but they come in peace and they come in love and, and so, and which is funny because we have the whole superhero narrative where they're always trying to save the world from these alien forces that are coming to take it. And then, you know, you go forward and I'm going to explain, we'll talk later about how all of this is connected to the Nazis, but, you know, I just wanted, can you set the stage for us when it comes to, you know, the angel, uh, versus demons and versus aliens conversation, how you see that?
Okay. So, so there actually is a very real biblical narrative for this whole thing. And, and while it hasn't been a part of a lot of Christianity, it's always been in the Bible and it's always been there and it's here now. And so there is a huge biblical lens that you can use for this and I would like to present my part of that. So first and foremost, this is all deception. It is absolutely deception. It is part of what the Bible calls the end time deception. And where Jesus said that there would be signs and wonders in the heavens and even the powers of the heavens would be shaken. Meaning how you think it works, all of that narrative is going to be shaken. Okay? And in the midst of that, even Jesus himself says in Luke chapter 21, he says this. He says, "And men's hearts are going to fail them for fear of the things that they see coming upon the earth." In Luke 21, Jesus also says, he also says this crazy thing, and, and I love this. This is in verse 11. You know, everybody talks about, well, there's going to be earthquakes and famines and pestilence. But then he says this, "And there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven." The word fearful sight in Greek is the, is, is a word that's called fobbitron. And fobbitron means scary monsters.
Wow.
That's what it means. Scary monsters coming from the heavens. Like, what in the wild, wild world of sports are we talking about? These are the words of Jesus Christ. And right before all of that, what Jesus said, the main thing that we have to do in the midst of seeing scary things coming from the skies is this. Do not be deceived.
And those are the words of the Lord himself. And here we are in this place where, where now there are scary things that people were seeing in the skies. So what this comes down to is we have a problem and the, the first problem that we have is that being western people, we tend to think more like the Greeks, which means if the numbers add up, if the math adds up, then we accept it. And there's a problem with that. That's why we have accepted Darwinism, which is a total fabrication. It's a total lie. That's why we have accepted, uh, the green crisis that is taking place. Oh my God, there's a terrible green crisis. Why? Because because science presents it and also too because there, because there's science and there's natural things involved in it. We tend to be susceptible to being totally deceived if something appears in a natural form or in a scientific form. And the devil understands that. So in these last days, these things are not showing up as supernatural. They're showing up as scientific. And because also the second problem we have is we have this grid that says, well, there's only angels and demons and that's all that there is. And that's kind of true, but it's not really true. Okay. So within God's celestial kingdom, God Almighty created biblically how it works is this. God created an earthly family and God Almighty created a celestial family. And within the earthly family and also within the celestial family, there is a myriad of diverse species. And so we, we just tend to think, well, all angels look the same. No, they do not. You know, there's somewhere around 35 to 50 million species upon the planet Earth of all living things. Imagine what there is within the heavens. Imagine that. So, we just don't know. Biblically, we know that there's seraphim. We know that there's fire angels. There's fire seraphim. There's cherubim. There's warring angels. There is, there's watchers. In Daniel chapter 6, it says, "I saw a holy watcher." Which means there's fallen watchers, as the book of Enoch says. And then there's holy, there are holy watchers, as, um, as the book of Daniel says. We could go on and on. I have, I, I've got a list of more than, of more than 50 different angels that are completely different species that are biblical, that they have different territories. They have different powers. They have different looks. And some, Laura, some, some have real physicality that is so real that they can actually produce hybrids with human beings, meaning their DNA is so close to ours that we can actually procreate.
Okay.
And that is something. So on that subject, was it not the fallen angels because a third of the angels fell from heaven, right, along with Satan? And it was, it was God did not create angels to procreate with humans.
But the fallen angels were the ones who procreated with humanity.
It is strictly forbidden. It doesn't mean that they can't.
I see.
But it's forbidden activity, just like a lot of, you know, sexuality is highly regulated. It's highly regulated because we'll all go off the rails. And it's the same exact way with the angels. Jesus said they are not given to marriage. It doesn't mean that there are not classes of them that cannot. It doesn't mean that. And when they had fallen in Genesis chapter 6, a special class of angels that is also, this is another kind of angels, and they're called sons of God. Okay? It says the sons of God saw the daughters of men. There's also starless angels, right? There's, there's, there's elemental angels. This is all biblical. Well, the sons of God have, they're, they have such real physicality that when they rebelled against God, they decided they wanted to enter into creation and caused a bloodline that was no longer the sons of Adam, but now they were the sons of the sons of God, so that they could cry out to God and say, "This is not your creation. This is our creation." And by the way, Laura, I want to tell you, it's the first case of human trafficking that I think has ever happened is when these fallen angels took unto themselves wives. They were literally trafficked. They bartered deals with kings and said, "Give us your daughters. Give us this. Give us that." And then they produced hybrids. And that first set of hybrids is what's known as the great ones, the, the Anunnaki or the giants. And then that's the Nephilim.
Exactly.
Right. And then from the Nephilim, they also crossbreed. Even the Bible says that, uh, they crossbreed. It says, it says all the world was contaminated, even the plants and the fish and the birds of the air. And then that brings in the whole flood narrative. So the reason why God wiped everything out and started all over was because of this crossbreeding program. And even later on, even after the flood, it happened once again. And, and then you see that there were giants in the days of David. And then you see God Almighty commanding, commanding the Israelites, "I want you to go into that village and wipe out every male, every female, every child, and every animal." Why? Because of this cross-contamination between physical angels that have real physicality. Well, Jesus said that the last days would be as the days of Noah and as the days of Lot. So, what was going on in the days of Noah? This thing that we're talking about. What was going on in the days of Lot? Men wanting to get sexual with angels. And so, here we are. But they're not showing up the way that they did in the days of Noah. They're not showing up the way they did in the days of Lot. They're showing up now as we're extraterrestrial, which is true. They are extraterrestrial. Or maybe they're saying they're interdimensional, but they're saying they're interplanetary. No, they're not. What they are, Laura, is they are fallen ones that are calling themselves gods, and they're actually global control. They're actually after global control. And there's enough clowns on this planet that will sign up for that.
And will give their authority.
To them, right? Because that's the way that we allow them.
To come into our lives and to come into our homes and our communities and into our children's lives and, you know, all the people around us, our businesses, everything that we do when we, we give our authority to them as opposed to giving your authority to God.
That is correct. They actually want to present a case in the courts of heaven to God Almighty himself. And they want to be able to say, "This is not your creation. This is our creation. These are not your people. These, these are our people." They want to present that. They're all a bunch of sniveling lawyers. And so they are after our authority. They are after our inheritance. And they're after the space that God Almighty has given us. And they know that it hurts the Father if they get us. They know that it hurts him. They absolutely want to destroy every single one of us. So it's one thing for there to be a mystery in the midst of all this, and there's tons of mysterious things and there's wonder in it. It's another thing for us to be deceived and for us to buy the narrative of the deception. And I'm not going to do it.
Well, the problem is, um, Troy, that as people move away from Christianity and they move away from the Bible and they don't read the Bible and they don't know the word of God, they become easier to deceive because what they're getting is on the one side, you, you, you are not getting a biblical education. You're not becoming versed in, in what the Bible lays out, which is really the oldest book on Earth, right? And then on the other side, what you are getting is you're getting a mass of information that is part of the deception.
And, and programming. And programming, just being groomed and programmed to think a certain way. And what they do is they're like, "This is true, right? All right. Then this is true, right? Okay, then this has to be true." And they fill in that last blank for us over and over and over again as we go down this path of deception that's really about controlling us. It's about global control and it's about, as the Bible describes what happens in the end times. That's, this is how they're going to do it.
It's interesting. It is about, um, global control. But, and, um, and the grooming part is the part that, you know, I'm particularly interested in because there are a lot of people out there who really do believe that everything that is unexplained, um, is, is little green men coming here, uh, taking people, abducting people in spacecraft and all the rest of it.
Yeah. Remember Genesis chapter 6 when we were talking about that they took unto themselves wives. They literally abducted women and then they impregnated them and then they started a whole bloodline to enter into the messianic bloodline so that there would never be redemption for us. But whenever Jesus was born, Matthew gives us 77 generations from Adam all the way to Jesus. Jesus pulled it off.
And he did it. And praise God for that because now anybody can be saved who, who has faith. So now what they want is they want global domination. That's what they want now. And, uh, I'm going to tell you something. It's going to seem like for a little bit that they're winning, but, uh, I know how the story ends and they all lose, man. To hell with them. I'm, I'm, I'm not going to cooperate with them. I am not going to, uh, buy their lies. I'm not going to receive their technology. And this is something too. This is very important, Laura. Throughout the centuries and even like according to the book of Enoch and even in biblical narratives, there are, there are kings that started god-king bloodlines. Okay? Just like the pharaohs, right? The, the, just like the Aztecs. And that comes from these fallen celestial beings.
I see.
Okay. That comes, that where they actually create bloodlines, kingly bloodlines. But what they do, if you'll just give them to your daughters and if you will make a, and if you'll give them this and give them that and if you'll be loyal to them, what they'll do is they give you knowledge. And they typically give you a leg up upon the rest of humanity. Even within, even at the time of King David, the Israelites were in the Bronze Age, but the Philistines were in the Iron Age.
Mhm.
They had iron weapons and, and the Israelites had bronze weapons. And an iron weapon can go right through a bronze shield. Well, where did they get that technology? They got that from these devils is where they got from and from serving them.
And doesn't that knowledge come from the, uh, forbidden tree, the, the tree of knowledge in the garden? Eat and evil. Yeah. Right on. The, the, the tree of knowledge of good, of good and evil. And yes, it does. So what it actually comes from, and hear me say this, is a big deal. This knowledge, there's the, the wisdom that comes from these things actually belongs to the Lord.
And they have stolen it and they manipulate people with this thing. And so instead of people finding knowledge through the joy of discovery and through going after the things that God tells us to, they say, "Here, I'm going to take you from here to there right now. This is what I'm going to do and you're going to have a leg up on everybody else." Well, that is pride and that is manipulation. It's manipulation of pride so that we will be in ultimately total subjugation of these beings. And they know how to do it and they know who will work with them.
Yes. And, um, you know, it's funny that you say that because I just watched a TV series recently which got me interested in Jack Parsons and his work at NASA with Jet Propulsion, right? And the Jet Propulsion Laboratories. And if you look at him, that's a classic, his story is the classic example of that. He joins this satanic cell, right? He's connected to Aleister Crowley and he goes into the desert to summon the beast. He gets his knowledge from manifesting his will by calling on demonic forces.
And, and using that. And of course, I want to talk.
Elron Hubbard went out there with him.
Elron Hubbard. And then of course, what did they do? They created Scientology.
That's exactly right. Well, also too, Jack Parsons, uh, one of his names was Marvel.
You know, that's where we get Marvel comics from.
Wow. I did not know that. But that is very interesting because something that is, you know, that, that I learned, well, that God showed me, really, a couple of years ago, is that this whole concept of superheroes because I'm a big sucker for Marvel comics and superheroes and Captain America and all of that, right? And so are so are most of us. But what they teach us, what you actually, when you look at it and you step back from it, you realize they're teaching you that to be human is less.
That's right. And that, and that there is, you know, the only real kind of for you to aspire and to grow and to be greater than you want to be greater than human because you can live forever or you can travel, you know, faster than the speed of light or you can, you'll be a god. You, you will be a god. And that you're right. And so what happens is this, this becomes, I started to look at this because I was looking at what my, my children were watching through, through anime and through all of these different TV series where it then becomes, well, wouldn't you rather, you know, you can acquire a superhuman power, but you pay a price for it with your humanity. So, you can choose to have a special talent, right? You have a certain gift. You can stop water or you can move mountains or you can read minds or you can, you know, there's all these different superhuman gifts, but you have to pay a price for this. To the point where, you know, it's like I said to my son once, "Would you cut off your healthy arms to get bionic arms?" And he said, "Yes." And I said, "Why?" And he said, "Well, what if I could save you with my bionic arm?" Well, what if we were in a life and death situation and with my bionic capability that is greater than human, I could save your life. I could do good. Right? So they appeal to that in us which wants our strengths as humans. We want to do good. We want to save people and help people. And what does that really mean? It's paving the way for transhumanism where you give up your humanity. What are you doing? You're altering your body. So you are no longer as created by your Father.
That's right.
Right. You are no longer created in God's image.
That's right.
And you are now worshiping at the altar of the God that made you bionic, which is a human God, which you don't even know what that means and what you're actually giving up.
Yeah. So, I even going all the way into the book of, well, let me go all the way back. First of all, there are certain people in the Bible who become mighty men. Okay? They become giants. So, Nimrod was one of those guys. He became, so he transed into something. He transed and, uh, like, okay, what is that again? Is transhuman. All right? So, he went through all this ritualistic work and all of this mess and he became a mighty man. It's transing. You literally trans. Okay? In the end times and during the tribulation, the book of Revelation tells us that when people receive the mark of the beast, that they are no longer redeemable. And that's a very, that's a crazy thing for me. Like, wait a minute, man. The gospel is still being preached, man. You still have faith. Why is it? I believe it changes your DNA. I believe it totally changes your DNA on such a level that you are no longer even a son of Adam.
Human.
Yeah. You're no longer human, man.
That's why you, that's why you do not benefit from the, the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. That's why you're not eligible for redemption.
That's what they're after is, is they want us to trance.
They want us to trans.
And that's the promise. That's the promise that they gave Eve. No. No. Listen, honey. You shall be as God. That's what that was what the serpent told her. It's the same lie today. Listen, you're going to be godlike. You're going to have godlike powers. It's going to be amazing. Of course, you're no longer going to be a part of humanity that Jesus has died for. But that's okay.
And no, it's not okay.
No, you don't need to be, you don't need to be human. You don't need to be saved because as a god, you won't need redemption.
That's exactly right.
You won't need Jesus Christ.
Yeah. Until, until they find out they're wrong. And that's not going to be good. So transhumanism is a transgression.
And the spirit world understands that. These demons understand that. And I would also say this too. Everybody needs to not freak out because there is technology involved. It's like it can't be demonic. They actually have a craft. They actually have this. Yes, it can. The idea that spiritual beings do not cooperate with technology is ludicrous. It's not a biblical idea at all. Okay.
So, so you know, it's very interesting to me that at this historic moment when the Trump administration has, um, has ordered the declassification of all of this, right?
Yes, ma'am.
Um, that you have the same guy, Steven Spielberg, is releasing his movie Day, uh, Disclosure Day or Day of Disclosure, whatever it's called. And come on, sister.
And what does he say in, in an interview with CBS News? One of the things Stephen Spielberg said is that this is going to shake the beliefs of many Christians because what did they have to do with this biblical narrative? So they went to war on many fronts. One was, you know, to alter the DNA with the mark of the beast, right? For, for us to choose as human beings to instead of giving our authority to God, to use our free will to give our authority to the devil. So, you know, there are people who follow, uh, the church of Satan, but also people who choose to traffic and rape children, right? People who, uh, practice in, uh, sort of new age paganism, crystals, you know, uh, Ouija boards, summoning the devil, you know, all of that stuff. When you do that and you participate in that, you're, you are giving your authority as a human being to the devil and you, you're walking closer to that moment of getting the mark of the beast, right? Where your DNA can be altered and you are not, you're not part of humanity. So, you're not available, you're not eligible for redemption. So, how did they do that? One of the things that they did in this modern narrative was to create this, um, deception. It's a really a deception operation that I think is about 150 years old that says that there are these beings that come from other planets and they come to visit us, but they, they're much smarter than us. Of course, everyone's smarter than us and yet somehow they are not able to just take the planet, right? If they were that much smarter, then why can't they just take the planet, right? It, the story doesn't really add up. And one of the things that they did too was to separate us from science. Separate faith and Christianity and the Bible and religion from science because if you study the sci, actually what science does is prove that the Bible is correct. It's the opposite of what they teach us. They, they try to pretend that, oh no, you know, if you believe in science, you, you're going against faith and religion. No, that's not true at all. In fact, the science proves definitively that the Bible isn't a fiction. That these things were historic events that actually happened throughout time. And, and what you can actually do is, is validate and verify in scientific terms something that has been relegated to the realm of, oh, you just have to believe, right? Because they know what, going back to what you said in the very beginning, they know that human beings, um, are find that we like the numbers. When the numbers add up, we say, okay, good, that makes sense. One plus one, yes, I, I am looking at two, so that I can trust that I can rely on. When you tell, you know, that God, uh, created, you know, Adam and then he took a rib from Adam and created woman, you know, okay, now you're asking me to believe in a fairy tale, right? That's the narrative. And then of course, they built these other structures like they built, uh, Chattle House and the Dutch East India Tea Company, you know, were built and created by the Rothschilds at 14 Downing Street, yes.
Which who paid for Charles Darwin to travel across the world. They paid for his ships to go across the world to come back and create this narrative of Darwinism because if they needed an alternative scientific-based theory of creation to replace creationism as it is spelled out in Genesis, in the Bible, in the word of God.
So true. All of that is true. You know, I, I, I tell you this, my good friend Allan Dio, he's a, he's a very good friend of mine. And Allan has done this huge study and Allan, out of all the alien abduction stories, and I believe it. I mean, I do believe it. I don't, I don't think that all those people are making that up. I think that they've been deceived into thinking that they're aliens, okay? But these are monsters and they're, they're just terrible.
They are demons. They are absolute. They're fallen angels is what they are. And they come in all shapes and all kinds of shapes and sizes. And some of them can change their shape. That's a whole another thing. But with that said, let me just continue this. Out of all the alien abductions that have ever happened. There has never been one, not one single one, that somebody rebuked it in the name of Jesus that it didn't stop.
Well, doesn't, doesn't the Bible say that? Doesn't God tell us that that the only way to stop an attack like that is through Jesus Christ, through him?
The, it is through, it is through the authority that God Almighty has given us in our connection with the Lord Jesus Christ. There is not one single recorded alien abduction of one single person that has ever prayed against it that it hasn't ended immediately. And like, what, what, what's that all about? What are you guys, what are you cats scared of? Oh, listen. And they're scared of the name of Jesus. And they're scared of the reality that we actually know him and we can walk in that power and also walk in that authority.
So that makes me, that tempts me because I want to ask you, I want to say to, you know, what about, what about, you know, the child that's being raped and tortured that's crying out to God and to Jesus and is tortured to death. There's one. Okay, here we go. Look, I have, I have rescued, you know, close to 13,000 kids now. And I have some of the worst things in my head that anybody can imagine. And I can tell you this, I have to believe with all my heart that God Almighty loves these kids better than anybody else does. I refuse to believe anything else. There are things to me that do not make any sense. Uh, well, one of the things is this. It's not like God is in control of the whole world. And you're like, "Whoa, stop. Of course, God's in control of the world." No, he's not. Not yet. Understand, he created it. Understand he created the rules. Understand all that. But look, we're looking for his will to be done on this earth as it is in heaven. God gets his way every day in heaven. But God does not get his way here upon this earth every day. And he won't until we either give it to him or until, or until Jesus comes back. There are helpless situations that people are in right now all over the world that is breaking God's heart. He sees it. I promise you he does. But there are also rules of engagement. And the reason why there are rules of of engagement is for the, is for the sake that you and I can actually be redeemed. If it was a rigid deal and if God just said, "Nope, my will's going to be done no matter what." Then some of us would have been born in heaven and some of us would have been born in hell.
Well, and then you wouldn't have free will.
That's exactly right. We do have free will. And there is a battle that is taking place. And unless people, unless people in the name of Jesus take up the fight to rescue kids, they will continue to be raped. They will continue to be tortured. And you just hope it goes away. It ain't going to go away because we, because we want it to go away. We have to be involved in this. We have to be engaged in it.
Okay. So I, I want to ask you because if you look specifically, right, if you look specifically at this deception operation, it has, um, it has different pillars, right? So one part of it is that a lot of this is our own technology. And so it's been very convenient to use this narrative as a cover because if people, you know, if people think that this is otherworldly, then, um, they, then your secrets are. And in fact, what's kind of interesting is I've been talking to people who are involved in uncovering and exposing this deception operation. They don't call it Disclosure Day. They call it Exposure Day, right? They, they're laughing at the Spielbergs of this world and saying it's Exposure Day that's coming, not Disclosure Day. And, um, but what's interesting is I've learned that the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party, is behind a lot of this, uh, this disclosure stuff because what it has done is, is push Americans to go and, uh, pressure their government to show them the, you know, the truth, right? And in many of those cases, this is advanced technology that our adversaries like the Chinese would very much like to get their hands on. Um, but what you, if there's actually a lot of this information is already out there. It's just out there in very obscure, inaccessible forms, right? And so one of the things I was studying before this interview was different, different types of energy and electromagnetic propulsion, right? So for, you know, for example, the way that people say, well, it must be a UFO because it didn't move the same way as an airplane, right? Like a plane is propelled forward, uh, by the design and, um, and UFOs of course go up and down and they go this way and that way and they can hover and, you know, and all of that. But when you start to look at the science behind that, um, it was, it was explained to me, and I'm not an expert by any means, so like, shudder to think what all the scientists in the audience will be thinking, but, um, you know, the whole idea of, um, electromagnetic, um, energy and, and electromagnetic shield is, um, an energy, sorry, electromagnetic energy is based on basically a bumblebee. Like, how does a bumblebee move when it's got these tiny little wings and it's got this big body? How does it go up and down and hover and do basically all the movements of a UFO? Well, you wouldn't build something that had this shape, right? You'd build something that had this shape, a circle, right? Round, because, um, you're using electromagnetic energy, which also creates a shield, by the way, which is why when people say that they see these things move through air and water and they're coming out of the water and there's nothing touching them, that's because they're not actually touching the craft. What they're touching is technology that is, um, that is that has an electromagnetic field around it, and so it's not actually physically touching the craft. So anyway, the point is that a lot of, a lot of what people have seen, um, can be explained through technology that has been kept secret for many, many years. But the other part of this, right, the other part of this deception really comes back to this thing of this forbidden knowledge that you, that you talked about. And this is how the Nazis had all this advanced technology because if you really look at the Nazis, they were an occult organization, just like NASA in many ways is an occult organization. They're both occult organizations because what did they do? If you look at the very first known documented image of a UFO comes from the Vril Society and it's in a document that is stored in Germany. And so what you're actually, what you're actually looking at with the Nazis, this is, this is why it starts to sort of make sense. Why did we suddenly go, um, from the end of the Second World War, we were fighting with our allies, the Russians, and suddenly at the end of the war, we were fighting the Cold War? Because if you go back to Vera from Braun, his assistant Carol, um, Ryzen, she was the one who came out and she said that Vera from Braun, who was the Nazi scientist that went and did a lot of work at NASA, took a lot of that Nazi knowledge that came from the occult and took it to NASA. He told her about a plan, uh, to unite the world using this alien narrative, which had five steps to it. And, um, the first step was the Cold War, where Russia would be demonized and Russia would be the bad guys. The next step was terrorism, where you would have non-state actors entering the fray. Then it would be rogue nations, like for example, Iran, which wants a nuclear bomb. Rogue nations. Then you have asteroids, which of course we're told all the time, oh, the asteroids, right? Look at the dinosaur narrative, or the dinosaurs are extinct because the asteroids hit the earth. This is, the asteroids are coming to destroy us. And then the final stage of the, uh, of the deception is that the earth is going to be, uh, invaded by aliens and we need somehow, you know, to be protected against this. And so what's happening is, what are we hearing from Space Command and from other people? Oh, we're hearing about nuclear explosions. There's a threat of a nuclear explosion in space. And who is it? Oh, the Russians might detonate a nuclear bomb in space. And this is going to be devastating for the world. So now we have not just an arms race on Earth, but now we have an arms race in the heavens. And so now we're expected to spend all this taxpayer money on putting weapons in space and dealing with this threat from the outside. And none of it is real.
Whenever the Bible says, whenever Jesus said, "the powers of heaven will be shaken," it literally means the way you think it works will be rattled. So whether we are seeing something that can move in a way that it's not supposed to be able to move, or some kind of technology that we're not supposed to possess, or something being able to have different kind of physics than everything else. That's exactly what Jesus said when he said the powers of heaven will be shaken. The powers of the heavens will be shaken. The physics of how things work. Right? You know what? When you, when you're talking about Russia and when you're talking about China, and the CCP was pushing for this kind of disclosure and those kinds of things in order for Russia and in order for, well, I'm just going to say for Russia, for CCP, for Cuba, in order for a communist nation to exist, all you have to have is a bunch of punks with guns that are meaner than everybody else. In order for a free republic, in order for a free republic to have a society that has harmony, in order for us to prosper, you have to have godly people. And that means you got to have the church. There is nothing that they will not throw out to, to, to cause Christians to try and stumble. Nothing. Because it actually will tear down our free society if we as Christians bail. And that's a part of the global narrative. That's a part of the whole nine yards.
So they're going to fight this, this exposure like hell because this is central, right? This is absolutely central to what is really a globalist takeover. This is takeover. This is why the, the Marxists are aligned with the Islamists and the globalists.
That's right. This is accurate.
Yeah. No, you got it 2,000%. So, you know what? In, in, in rescuing kids, one of the things that I have found because we do, we do a, and I'm not trying to talk about myself, but I'm just trying to point out geographical locations. So we, we rescue kids in Nepal, in India, in Uganda, in every single country in Central America, out of Israel, out of several countries in South America. And one of the things that I have found over the past 31 years of doing this is the kid in the Amazon will tell you the same exact story as the child in Nepal will tell you. And the child that is in Kenya will tell you the same exact story that a child in Mexico has told you. Same exact kind of abuse, same kind of people sent to the same exact places, same thing goes on. And there's no way that these kids are connected in any way except for they're kidnapped, they're raped, they're trafficked, they're sold, their organs are sold, their blood is sold, their bodies are sold. And but this is a globalist enterprise.
And I promise it is. And I've known it for 30 years and I'm just now having a place to be able to talk about this because everybody thought I was nuts. And I'm like, "No, this is organized. It's global. It's real. It's Luciferian. It's been going on for a long, long time. And we have got to stand against it." And this is another, this is another key component to.
Their global conspiracy to actually subjugate all of us. This is a part of it. And I'm not going to let them do it. Not on my watch.
You know, I can see it when I look at, for example, if you look at the Marxists, right? You don't you don't have to argue that they're godless because K.L. Marx didn't believe in God. And in Marxist societies, Christianity is not tolerated. Like Russia has a long history of persecution of Christians. Although no one wants you to know that, right? That Russia today is not the Russia of that time. And there's a Christian revival in Russia, right? And you get attacked like crazy if you say that. But I've been there and I've seen it and I know that it's happening. And just because they murdered Christians in the past doesn't mean that that's always got to be the narrative, right? That's not always the reality. Things have changed.
So the Marxist side of it is a Marxism is completely and utterly godless. That's their own doctrine. So there's no argument about it. When it comes to the Islamists, it's a much more complex argument because I just saw an ad actually that was attached to the FIFA World Cup soccer and it was like God is one, one God, right? And it was, you know, they were wearing soccer jerseys that had the number one on it. And the whole idea was, you know, please buy Qurans. For this much money, you can have Qurans. And as we share soccer, we can share Islam, we can share the Quran, we can share Allah. And it was, you buy billboards. And it was basically they're using soccer and uh western culture, something that is very much a part of western culture that is all over the western world as a as a recruitment tool um for Islam with the message that we all have the same God.
So I wonder, I want you to speak to that on the globalist side of it. Of course, um if you look at these global institutions like the United Nations, very few people I think realize that the first thing the United Nations created was the Temple of Understanding, which was a pagan, basically a pagan justification. They said it was to bridge the gap right between Christianity and, you know, and where they stood. But really what it was about, it taught this cellular religion where every cell, every living cell is equal. Therefore, we can't own land because that makes us slaves. I mean, that makes us, you know, that we're enslaving the land by owning it. Makes us slave masters. And it's the same thing. You can't own animals. That's why there's this push for animals to have their own rights. I saw that NASA is now actually legally they're pushing for the animal to have its legal rights. So you donate to that animal as an illegal entity and that animal then can ex you know, of course, they're finding every way possible to to to steal from us and to deceive. But so on the globalist side of it, you it's very much pagan, very much against Christianity. That's why you have this whole movement that is against Christians all over the world right now. And that's why the globalists use globalist narratives to cover up crimes against Christians. Like they say in the Nigerian genocide is really about climate change, right?
But the difficult one, Troy, is is Islam because um we're seeing now the march of Islam across Europe and also in fact across the United States. But of course, there are a lot of good, decent uh Muslim people who just want to go and worship and uh not bother anybody else. But at the same time, they're sort of there, you know, there's they're not the ones that are pushing this leftist Islamist globalist alliance that is working to absolutely obliterate Christianity and Western civilization and everything that comes from God.
Okay, sister, here's what I want to tell you. If if anybody wants to know what the endgame is of any form of Islam, look at any nation that they have invaded and killed everybody else off that is not a part of their global that is not a part of their national regime. They have 1500 years of history with this. They form a culture that is so violent and so horrible and it always includes sexual slavery. And I'm like, prove me wrong. I got 1500 years of looking at this.
As a as a man who has rescued thousands of kids from uh from Islamics all over the world, say, wait a minute, they're not all bad people. No, in the stage that they're at, you know, might be a fine Islamic family that's just right down the road and their kids go to school with my kids. But that's a stage. When it goes to the next stage, and when it goes to the next stage, they will turn on you. They will just depending upon what stage they are. And also too, depending upon what stage they are in their invasion tactics of a nation. First stage, they come in and they're friendly and they introduce, hey, this is our halal food, man. They listen, multicult. And then they start showing that they are a victim. And then they start going after the cities. They start going after the actual uh government places. Then they start taking over all the public places. Then they start bowing down in the middle of the streets. And then they start then then they go after the Jews. And after they go after the Jews, they go after the Christians. After after they get rid of all the Christians, they kill all the leftists that actually partnered with them.
That's that's their final move. And then they say, "Tada, we did it, and we're never leaving." And they have done the same thing over and over and over again at every single nation that they've ever invaded.
And I have to point out that they uh they kill all the Muslims that don't go um in line with them because on a daily basis,
Them kill them.
Right? On a daily basis all over the world, they kill more Muslims actually than Jewish and Christian people. Um, they kill their own people. So they make sure there's a there's a process where they're kind of they're culling their own herd. Making sure that anyone that opposes them that doesn't go along with that is eliminated.
Well, they have such a murder rape culture. The reason why they kill more Muslims than they do Christians and Jesus because there's just more Muslims within their proximity. They find something that that they don't agree with and then they kill you. And they create a murder rape culture everywhere they go. And so we need to be aware of the stages of how that works and we need to not be deceived uh by this mess. And if you just listen to to them, they'll tell you exactly what they plan on doing.
Well, it breaks my heart because I have obviously a lot of um, you know, very close Muslim friends, you know what I mean? Like people who are like family to me and they're not like that at all.
Some of my rescuers are actually Muslim. Some of the guys that actually help me rescue kids are actually Muslim. And I mean, I don't think that they'll ever go from the stage that they're in into some horrible thing where they turn on all of us. But if they under the right circumstances, if they stayed with the same if they stayed on track with the same exact dogma, that's where it would lead them to. And show me any place in the world where it's led to any other place. Where are the Muslim hospitals all throughout the world? Where are the where are where show me where Muslims have gathered together to stop sexual trafficking. Show me where Muslims in the world. I mean, I could go on and on and on and on. So, like, well, that's a terrible thing to say. It's it's just the reality. Okay. If if you stay on that track, you will insist that everybody else gets on that track and then you kill those who are not on that track so that you you're pretty pretty much guaranteed you'll be able to go to heaven.
Yeah. It's not so much that that all people are bad because obviously that's not the case. But it's more that the system that you're born into.
That's exactly right.
Um, doesn't encourage, you know, good things. And I'm not, I'm not of course people who don't believe in God and don't like Christianity and there's lots to be critical of with Christianity, of course. Um, the first thing that they throw at you is, oh, I suppose your God is better than this person's God is better than that person's God. So how do you deal with this idea that there's, you know, there's one God and everybody uh worships the same God and just in different ways?
No, no. I mean, we know who he is. We know his name. See, when when Jesus came, Jesus actually came to put a face on the Father because everybody had imagined what the Father actually looked like. And he said, he said, "When you see me, you see the Father. When you hear me, you hear the Father." He literally came to put a face on God Almighty. And then Jesus said, you know, man, there's one way. I am here. He's the only one that offers salvation to all the world. He's the only one. He's the only one that offers his life for our life. He's the only one that offers freedom and redemption and a brand new mind and a brand new heart. He's there's no other. And so, while I respect as a human being the rights of other people to worship other gods, even if they're aliens, you have a right to do that, but you better be on the right team at the end of the day.
So, what does that mean for, you know, for for that means for all people, right? So, that means for people who are uh Buddhist or Jewish or Muslim or, you know, Hindu.
Yeah. Yeah. So, so here's the deal. When I'm saying that you got to you have to know Jesus. I'm not saying necessarily that you have to go to a Christian church. I think that there are people in all, >> every culture, every race, every religion in the world that Jesus Christ, the Bible says Jesus said, "My sheep know my voice and a stranger they will not follow." That doesn't mean that they know how to be a good Christian. It means that the Lord visits their heart and they're like, "I love that voice." And they choose him.
Okay? And I think I mean like I think there's probably some Comanchean that lived here in Texas a thousand years ago that heard the voice of the Lord just through how the wind blew through the trees or somehow they and he went, you know what, I'm going to follow that that whatever whatever that was like to him inside his heart. And he may still have been a part of some ritualistic something that was not of God, but he never had a chance. He never had a Bible. He never had a guy like me come and tell them about the reality of Jesus. And I think that that's clearly I think that that's clear in Matthew chapter 25 that there's a lot of people that think that they're in bad trouble and Jesus said, "No, no, when you did that under the least of these, that was me you were serving. That wasn't natural. I told you to do that and you love my voice and now I'm like, tada, it's me, King Jesus."
And I love that and it gives me great hope. Um, no. I don't know what it's like to grow up in wherever and grow up a 100 years ago or a thousand years ago, but I know that God is faithful to visit mankind. I know that God is faithful to visit the hearts of human beings. And I know there are some people that didn't even know they were serving Jesus, that they just loved him.
So, um, just looking at the narrative, how have we been, um, deceived? Uh, Troy, what are the ways that you see that we've been deceived into believing this um alien deception?
Uh, well, first and first and foremost, whenever we were talking at the beginning of this um the fact that it is being presented in now as a narrative of science, military, governments, >> um all of those things we think, okay, we have to buy it. Well, just think about that for a second. Yeah. If it comes from the government, I mean, it couldn't be a lie. I mean, it couldn't at all. The fact that they're military involved, it couldn't be a lie. The fact and do but we want to trust our governments. We're we're geared towards that. We're geared towards wanting to believe these things. We're wanting to believe that they're good because we can't stand the horror of if they're not good. We can't. We just can't stand. What if this report comes out and details all the fraud and the waste and the abuse of people who have taken government contracts for example and which have been completely fake. People who were getting millions and millions of dollars every single year to say reverse engineer alien technology and they don't have any alien technology. It's been a scam, right?
Yeah. It is a scam. So much of it is a scam. I mean, it truly is. And they know that they can get away with it until they can't. And maybe that this is a time that it's going to come out like you jokers have been playing this game for way too long now. There are situations like Project Blue Beam or all these kinds of things where they're using some kind of technology to be able to project something or to do something or to make you believe something. Why? What is the point? And who is behind that? And are they just are they just key players within the governments that are together on some other scale that is much more global? What is this? What is that? We have to be super careful that we don't just accept whatever narrative that they give us. And uh I said this earlier when I was uh talking to somebody else. It's it's kind of like saying it's it's actually a lawyer's dodge and it's a very easy way to deceive people. They say this is true, correct? And this is true, correct? Well, then this must be true. Like, okay, uh God is love. Yes. Well, love is blind. Yes. Well, then Stevie Wonder must be God. No, he's not. You don't have to accept that and like, dude, what are you trying to feed me? And we have to be ready to reject that and go, uh, we need to revisit this thing.
Okay, what role does the book of Enoch play in this?
So Enoch is is obviously a non-biblical book um but it's been around at least the first part of it has been around for a very long time and even the Bible mentions the book of Enoch and even the Bible actually quotes the book of Enoch uh in Old Testament and in New Testament, which is very interesting. What that means is it means that the it means that the biblical writer, whoever it was that wrote this book or that book, assumed you had read the book of Enoch. So, it's it's a lot like if you love Western history, you're probably going to love the movie Tombstone. Okay? I wouldn't call that a real history book. You know, the if if Tombstone was a book, I wouldn't call that a real history book, but I definitely would refer to it. If I said, "I'm your huckleberry," then you would know that I was referring to that. Yeah. >> There's many things within the Bible that refer to the book of Enoch, meaning they just assume you're going to know that because everybody knew it. Okay, so it doesn't mean it's biblical. It is definitely extra biblical. It's not a part of the biblical canon. But it's also important thing to understand. So the book of Enoch, which was not written by Enoch. It's just a narrative. It's kind of like the book of 1 Samuel and 2 Samuel. Okay, he didn't write those books because he dies at the beginning. Okay, so he didn't he didn't write the rest of the story. It's the way that they would present a narrative. It's like in the style or during the period of Samuel. So, we're going to call that the book of Samuel. Same thing with the book of Enoch. Um, it tells a story and goes into great detail of how that there were 200 watchers, watcher class angels, um, that that that got together. They had a conspiracy and they said, "Look, we're going to pull something off with God and we think we can get away with it." You're like, "Well, why? Just stop. Why would any just question the sanity of that?" Because they were watchers. Meaning, they had a legal right to watch and to report to God Almighty. And I really believe this. I actually believe this narrative because while I believe that God sees everything, I do not believe that God legally sees everything. Those are two different things. In fact, you can find God showing up and talking to Abraham and he says, "I must go and see this Sodom and Gomorrah thing and see if what I have heard is true."
Well, dude, if you see everything, why would you? He sees it, but he hasn't. But in the courts of heaven, he hasn't seen it legally.
So, they're get together. They go into covenant and they say, "We're also going to do this in a way where some of us is going to rebel at one time. Others there's going to be multiple incursions and we're going to take on these daughters of these daughters of men. We are actually going to reproduce through them a new bloodline. And we want their women. We want their power. We want their planet. And if we work this out long enough, we can get the whole world to worship us and all the kings of the earth will belong to us and we'll be able to tell God, you have no more dominion here. And that's that. So, so where's the biblical part of that? It is a very a couple of obscure verses in Genesis chapter 6. And the why why does it go into detail? Because the writer assumes you know the book of Enoch. And that's why it's like, look, all that's already written down. So let's talk about Noah and he gets goes straight into the Noah which like in light of that God wiped out the whole earth.
So is this where we are now?
Yeah. So where we are now is in the days of Noah, which is all about um it is all about trying to get us to trans according to their image >> and no longer according to God's image. And that's why the whole trans narrative is such a big narrative today. Whether it's transsexual, whether it's transgender, >> whether it is a tech, trans, whatever it is, um all those kinds of things because it's we are image bearers of God Almighty. Jesus said, "Look on the coin. Whose image is on it, that's who it is he belongs to. Give unto Caesar what belongs to Caesar if it's got his image on it." Well, we carry the image of God, you and I do. And now look, you you're a nice looking woman. I'm an ugly old dude, but I still carry the image of the Lord upon me. I do. And as an image bearer, I am loyal to him in these last days. It's not about figuring out how does that work, this work, that work, this. It's it's not about that. It's about this. Are you loyal to the Lord Jesus Christ? Because he's coming back. Sister.
What if you don't believe in God? What if you're one of these many people, growing number of people who have turned away from Christianity who think that you and I are both nuts for even talking about this?
Yeah. I know. And I'm >> I want to just tell you they didn't naturally decide. I I think that all of us are geared to know God. I really do.
I think that you I don't know how you can go outside and look at anything or look at the stars at night without knowing. If there's a design, there's a designer.
And I think I need to seek him and I think I need to find him. And and in that first orphan stage before we know God, we have a desire to want to know who our parent is. Just like anybody that's an orphan, like there comes a time where you're like, I'm going to look. But some of us, they give them some orphans, they give their parents a holy middle finger and say, I'm never going to look off into that.
And I think that that's what people do with God. And even if they don't realize that they have done that, I would just say this, God can be known. And if you'll be very any person that is very honest and just says, "Okay, God, I want to know you. Show me who you are." I guarantee you, he will show up. You don't got to be religious about it. I'm a pastor of a church. I've been pastoring for over 30 years. I've built churches all over the world. But I'm telling you right now, I'm not a very churchy guy. Uh, even though I pastor a church, you don't got to be churchy. You just got to be honest and say, truly show me who you are. Specifically, if you will ask Jesus >> and say, "God, if you're Jesus, will you please show me that?" I I'm telling you, he will, but you're going to have to be childlike, and you have to Everybody gets as much Jesus as they want.
Have you had any encounters personally with demons?
I have.
Can you tell me about that?
Well, what which which one? What do you want to know?
Yeah. You know what? But uh the craziest I've had some pretty crazy things happen. I had um the first year that I went to Uganda, which which again was 30 years ago, my wife and I, we were in the Rawi Mountains, and I literally had I saw Laura. I was getting ready for bed, and we were putting the net around the bed, and I was putting the net over. My wife was already in bed, and she was leaning up against the wall. She had her back against the wall, and her feet were out on the bed. And I was as I was putting it up, I just looked at her and she was staring past my shoulder and I looked at her and I was like, "What?" And she just went like this. And I turned around and looked and there was a purple light about the size of maybe a quarter, something like that. That was I don't know about 5 feet in the air behind me. And I thought, "What the heck is that?" And I got on the bed. I kind of backed up like, "What is that?" And I couldn't figure out what it was. And I it wasn't it wasn't illuminating anything, but there was a light. Now, there was no electricity in the house that we were in. And we were way way up in the Rawori Mountains and near Fort Portal, Uganda. And I was like, "What is that?" I leaned all I got on the bed and got all the way back and was looking at I was like, "La, what do you think that is?" And all of a sudden, sister, a fear, like someone injected fear into my neck. and filled my whole being with fear. A terror, a horror happened. And this thing started to crack and pop and it started to make a noise. It sounded like distortion. And then all of a sudden, I heard a voice. And this thing spoke and it spoke a horror upon me. And it spoke into my life and it spoke into Lyanna's life. And it said terrible things. And it talked about I was going to see her raped before I was beheaded. I would beg to be killed. I would beg for death. I would hope for death. And it starts saying these things. Well, me and Lyanna, I was like standing against it. And I was rebuking it. And I mean, I was horrified. And this thing was so mean and so angry. And after a few minutes, I mean, it just wasn't budging. I literally put my forehead up against my wife's forehead. And we just started inviting the presence of the Lord into that room and say, "Jesus, we need you." And it started to scream, "Stop it! Stop it! Don't, don't, don't." And boom, it was gone. And I was like, "Wow." So I got up and there's no way I was going to go to sleep after that. And I went into the living room and I had a candle. And as I went into the living room, I could see that there was already a candle in there. And that pastor whose house I was staying in, he said, "Is everything okay?" And I said, "No, everything's not okay, dude." I was like, "I just had a daggum demon manifest in my room and and tell me all these horrible things that were going to happen, prophesied death into my life." And he said, "Did he tell you that you were going to see your wife get raped?" I said, "Yeah." He said, "Did he tell you that he's going to behead you?" I said, "Yes." And he said, "This is the spirit that comes when the when the Muslim rebels are close >> and we need to pray because they must be really close tonight." And we prayed. The next day we woke up and they came within 2 miles because they heard that there were Americans there and they actually were looking for us.
And I I didn't even have a grid for any of that at that time. And that was actually was from though there were so many kids that were orphaned because they murdered so many people that that was actually the first home that we built. um in in Uganda.
So, I can tell you that a devil did show up. I can tell you that Jesus showed up and ran him off.
It's um it's quite incredible. um when like what would your response be if you were having a conversation with Stephen Spielberg and and and he was um was saying what he said in other interviews that his film is going to shake Christian beliefs because what they're going to discover is a lot of things um that they thought were true or not because this is really alien either interdimensional or extraterrestrial. I don't know where he sits on that argument, but um on you know that there's they're very careful with how they choose their words. They say nonhuman, right? Of course, non-human could be many things.
Absolutely.
Um, but I I wonder what how would you deal with that argument?
Well, as we've already discussed, I totally believe that all these things are demonic, but let's just entertain the fact that let's just entertain the idea, I should say, that what if they're not. What if they actually were from some other planet? The issue is not have we discovered every life form. The issue is are they of God's camp or not?
That is the issue. It's like, okay, G, when the Bible says when the Bible says you need to try the spirits, he literally says, will they bow their knee to Jesus and then you'll know if they're of God or not. And so while I understand and while I have a biblical mind towards this, if if aliens landed, if a big craft went over Washington DC and they they landed and they want to go speak to President Trump, thank God that Biden's not there. But also too, man, you know that you know that Trump would want to make a deal, some kind of deal. What do you got? What do you got? He's going to make a deal, right?
So he goes up there to make they Trump starts talking him into making a deal. The issue like, "Okay, Pastor Tory, would you have church?" I would want to have church that day. I It doesn't rock. It wouldn't rock my world. It wouldn't anything. It doesn't change anything. The fact that Jesus Christ is resurrected from the dead and he's coming back soon is still a very real present reality. The issue is, are they of God's camp or not? That's the issue.
Well, is it stand against him? Is it the truth?
Right. Because God says, "I am the way, the truth."
Yes, ma'am. and the life, right? So, we don't want to live with deception.
No, we do not. We do not. So, what is the point of deceiving somebody? It's to manipulate them into a position that you want them in.
So, if if there's deception involved, that means that there's a plan to to have us live a different life than what it is that we're living.
And we don't need to sign up for it, sister. So, how do we end up in this situation where, you know, all the movies and documentaries that have been made about people like the Nazis, there's very little about the VR society and the occult nature. There are some out there. I've seen some, but the occult nature of uh the Nazis as an organization and where they got their, you know, where they got all this knowledge and advanced technology from, right?
Yeah. So, okay. So there's also something called the Hitler Project that we have rescued kids all over the world that tend to be South African. They tend to be South African and they and their names tend to start with L. Eel. Okay. We've rescued hundreds and hundreds of these kids. One of them uh owns a ballet company in Austin and her name is Elzine. Just like Elon Eel.
Uhhuh.
Okay. And he's from South Africa as well, by the way. It's like Stranger Things L. Okay. We've come across this thing all over the world. And that actually comes from World War II. That thing was started in World War II. And it was um, you know, you can see it in the movies, The Boys from Brazil, which were they were trying to make clones of Hitler. Okay. Well, that was a demonic luciferian globalistic thing that is real and it's been squashed until now. It's been like nobody would believe it because they were able to control exactly what the narrative is. Now that they cannot do that, now that they can't do that,
now what they're doing is they are releasing tiny bits of information just like the Epstein files that causes people to argue over what the narrative is.
Before everybody was convinced what the narrative was. Now everybody is arguing over what the narrative can be because of the release of just pieces of things. And that's also a very dangerous place of deception. H So if the Trump administration really is trying to to take the lid of all of this and and and you know from what I know in the investigations that I've been doing that is really the purpose of this is to bring the truth to not just the American people but to the world right because this has been a deception operation that has been spread across the world. Um, if they really are doing that um, what is the significance? What does it really mean?
Well, I I don't know that that will ever happen. I I don't because I think that there's good guys and bad guys and all of them are in the US government. It's it's like a lot of things.
And so I I'm I don't know that that will happen. If that did happen, what they would be disclosing is what they say are alien or what they say are extradimensional.
No. What they're going to say is that there are no aliens. That's what they're going to say. That's what I Yes. That's what the report and the investigations have said. Yes. That's why JD Vance said what he said about it being demons because he's there's been there's been versions of the report that have already been submitted to the White House White House. They've already been briefed.
Wow. That's crazy.
That's what they're going to say. That in fact that there are there are no aliens. They're demons. and they're they're going to uh reveal the the breadth of fraud that has been been perpetuated against the American people.
Listen, I would say, "Oh, happy day." If that came out, I would start singing. I'm telling you, and I'd go, "Let's go. Let's go." Just like trying to find, you know, invisible Somalian children all over the USA, okay? And the trillions of dollars has gone towards that mess. I would say, "Oh, happy day." But
well, boy, it's going to take some doing to do that.
This is why you're seeing all these documentaries and films coming out now >> that are trying to reinforce the alien narrative >> because it's about to come apart. They're going to rip it apart.
Okay. I hope they do. I hope they do, man. And especially if they're going to say, "Look, this thing is demonic. These things are real, and this thing is demonic. What is real is the the fight between light and darkness. What's real is the fight between angels and demons. And which team are you going to be on? Who are you loyal to? Let's go. Now, I would love that.
You know what? I have enjoyed every minute talking to you. And I cannot believe that you let me be on your show.
Come on, Troy. We've got a lot more to talk about. I know you've got to go. You've got a heart out. We're going to have you back.
Yeah, please do. Please do. I I I watch your show. I love your show. You're one of my heroes. I prayed for you often. We have a lot of mutual friends. And I just want you to know, Laura, I am your friend. I don't want anything out of you. I just want to be your friend. That's it.
Me, too.
All right.
Yeah. Thank you so much, Troy. You take care, huh? And we'll talk soon.
Well, there you have it. Um, ladies and gentlemen, you watch what's coming out of the Department of War. There's going to be a lot of interesting things happening for sure. And when you see all this uh, you know, day of disclosure and these other films and and documentaries um, remember some of the things that I've talked about. In fact, there are we're going to come back to this subject um, but there are documents that anybody can find in the national archives, you know, because there'll be people out there who say, well, what about the Roswell incident and what about this and what about that? Well, we're going to uh be looking at all of those things. But I would say start with the records of the National Archives and start with the records of, for example, the VR Society. What we'll do is we'll dig up some of those things. We'll post some of those documents um with the shows so that you can find them and read them for yourself and start taking um a look at this. I was just looking at one of the um Nazi documents actually. Fascinating to see their records on this and the extent to which the occult was the foundation um of the Nazis and of course the especially the Nazi SS and they actually had um a place in Germany that was for the the the higher the top echelons of the um occult leaders within the Nazi party where it wasn't for the, you know, it wasn't for the rank and file occultists, it was for the the guys at the top. Also, there is that TV series that you can watch. I don't remember what it's called about Jack Parsons. Definitely you can look into uh what Jack Parsons was doing and NASA's relationship with the occult. Um, fascinating um stuff that will be coming back to Troy Brewer. Brewer, of course, his ministry, you can donate to them if you want to. If you just look up Troy Brewer Ministries, you can find everything that you need to see about his child trafficking operations that they have out there. Um, of course, if you want to support the show, um, please like, please share, please subscribe if you can. Um, it really means a lot to us. Um, independent journalism is not free to make. Um, even though ours is free to you and, um, we really, really do rely on your support and we appreciate it very, very much. So, get this out to as many people as you can. Stay tuned. There'll be more coming on the uh the exposure of this massive deception operation. Don't hate me. Don't hate me if you're a faithful follower of the green little green men. Um, this has been u a very well executed um operation over many many years. You don't have to take my word for it. You don't have to believe me. We'll have many more discussions about it. And I just want to say thank you uh to all of you. Thank you for being bold enough to go rogue with Lara Logan.