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Hello and thank you for joining me. Of course, I'll be your guest, or your guest host, I should say. I'm Dr. Ken, and you're watching the Marketplace Network. This is on the Pastor's Perspective show. And the program, I've got, you know how we do it. We travel all over the country and look for the best and most anointed pastors, apostles, prophets in the country, feeding the people. The, you know, we're all lost. We all need a leader. But more importantly, we need somebody that's saying something that feeds us the, the real hunger we have for God, and inspire us, encourage us, and give us hope. That's what we need. And of course, I got the perfect guest, and she's back with us. The Apostle herself, An Alto. I'm sorry, I just passing you. Thank you so much for joining me. I'm under the cloud from the last show I did. Oh, a joy it was. And you know, Landa, Esther, and Joyce picked her show up in Washington. Really? Yes, they did. And they loved it. And, uh, I'm just so happy to be here. It's God, completely. Amen. Yeah.
Well, I want to know, uh, our viewers want to know what you've been doing. I know you've been traveling quite a bit, and I know you came out of that cave experience. And I just want to say, just a real quick thought. Is there was a famous writer, his name was Anthony Burgess. And he's wrote, I don't know, 150 books, at least, maybe 450. I can't remember how many. But it said that he was diagnosed with cancer, he had one year to live, and he had nothing to leave his life. Proverbs 17:8 says, "The gift I gave you, it will prosperity, it bring prosperity to you." So he started writing, and it became a hit book. He overcame cancer, and the rest is history. Had T of movies that were made after his books. They really led a nice life. I don't know if he was saved or not. Here's my point. How many people out there like, uh, that cave experience you had, that you were traveling all over the world, TBN, Daystar, all these great places to minister at, then you gave up for a while for personal reasons, and then you came back? So thank God, that's my point. Thank God she came back for the body of Christ to get their prosperity for the gift that God's given her. So what is God using you this week for? Oh, we've had tremendous meetings. People healed, people delivered from suicide, many, many wonderful things happened. But the really, the true, um, gospel needs to be told throughout the the world. Amen. And it's a Jesus died on the cross, rose again on the third day. He heals, he delivers, he sets free. Amen.
Now, I know you got that book. Is, would it be by chance, is that the book they wrote a chapter about you? Right. Show the audience. Arise and Shine. And who's that by? Your friend Laia Gillespie. In Burleson. She's a dear friend. Yeah. Oh boy, is she ever. She got a big church, right? Yeah. I wanted to, uh, tell you that, um, Tory Brewer's not wo her church. She's building a, a, uh, center for young people. Oh, my good. Anyway, so, and Justin has a little bit to do with this. I'm sitting there, and you know, can I tell you something? Christians can come against Christians. Oh, teach that. Yes. And I had been come against quite a bit. And I, but how many of you know Matthew 18 says we have to forget. Yes. We got to. Before we even get to California, I told Phil, let's forgive an evance. You know, because Christians will examine you and all that. Anyway, so I was going through a time of, oh, poor me, you know, Lord, what have I done? You know, what have I done? Even though he had opened all these fabulous doors, Lord, what have I really done? I got these people coming against me. And then all of a sudden, I get a, a call from Justin. And I had a, a web page, but another lady did the web page for me. And he calls up, not knowing how I was feeling, you know, the boohoo, I've been hurt, I've been wounded by the body of Christ, you know, we all been there. And, uh, they mean well, but at time, you, but anyway, so Justin said, "Hey Alberta, did you know there's a book on your web page called Arise and Shine?" And he said, "I found it." He worked for Microsoft then. And I said, "What are you talking about, Justin?" He said, "Yeah, there's a book in, there's a chapter in there about you." Wow.
What does it say, bab? Can you tell us real quick? I'll, I'll tell you. I'll tell you what it's about. I was doing a meeting in Burleson, Texas, in Glorious Church for a three-day meeting. And I'm there, sitting in the front. We got all this, one of the most powerful meetings. All three of them are powerful, but this is one of the most powerful meetings. And all of a sudden, Gloria and I are sitting here on the front pew. And now over, over walks her little four-year-old granddaughter. Oh, okay. And I said, "Hi, honey." I said, "What do you want to do? What do you want from Jesus?" She says, "I want to see him. I want to be with him." I said, "Really?" Well, I didn't say right away, "Well, I'm going to pray you get to go to heaven." You know, I didn't do that. I just said, "Really?" She said, "Yes." And then she sits down by Gloria and she says, "Nan, can't you see all these angels up here? They're everywhere." My goodness. Look at them. They're everywhere. Well, this little four-year-old had been dancing with Jesus. Wow. She, she had a little medical problem that that would lead her to her death. But anyway, she was, she said, "Can't you see? Can't you see all these angels, Nana?" She said, "Look." And she was pointing up like the angels then. You know what she said? She says, "Can't you see Jesus? He's right there praying for that woman laying on the floor." Oh, my goodness. And we said, "Mayy, you, what?" She said, "Yes. Can't you see him? He's here. He's here." And she saw Jesus down praying over a woman. And she said, "Oh, can't you hear the angel singing when he puts hands on that woman? Can't you hear the just singing?" And I told Gloria, I said, "Oh my God, Jesus himself is here." You know, all glory to God. So I leave there, most powerful meetings I think I've ever had at Glorious Church in Burleson. And I get home, and I just a few weeks later, Gloria calls me and says, "Alberta, Macy's dead." She died in two weeks. She died. Oh, my goodness. I don't know how many weeks it was, but Gloria called me and said, "Alberta, my granddaughter's dead." And I said, "She said, we just got to the hospital as she was dying." Oh.
Now, this is the key thing I want to tell you people, because some of you are wondering where your little kids went, where your aborted babies went. There's a place called heaven. But I'm going to tell you what happened. Gloria walked in there to that bed where Macy was laying, and Gloria saw Jesus Christ walk up, walk through, right into that room. And Gloria has been in the ministry years. She would not tell you anything that was not true. She saw Jesus Christ walk into that bed, put his hands out like this, and lift Macy up and walk off with her. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Wow. Wow. And she saw Jesus in person again. Jesus had come to get Macy. And there's people out there, you know, you got grandkids that have died. You got some of you had abortions. Which nobody's condemning you for. If you accept Jesus in your heart and in your life, guess what? You'll see that aborted baby again. You see it. Amen. And all your little children, grandchildren, and children, they died maybe when they were Macy's age, four, four, maybe two, maybe one, I don't know. But I know one thing. Jesse Duplantis says there's a nursery in heaven for these babies. And I've had other ministers tell me that they've been, Jesus let him visit there. And one lady said she had an abortion, and and she accepted Jesus, repented of her sin, asked him to come into her heart and life, and she said she died for a few minutes, went into heaven, and this little boy came running at her. And she said, "I knew that was the little boy I had." Oh, wow. See, your aborted babies, God lets nothing, nothing go to waste. They, he formed them in the womb. Yeah, he did. He formed them in the womb. He knew them. They don't go to waste. When they die, they leave their body and go with Jesus Christ. That's in Ecclesiastes. Your spirit leaves your body and returns unto God who gave it. So they, those babies, the one, two, three, or four, what happened to Gloria and her grandbaby, that's what Jesus does. Or he'll send angels to come and get your little baby. It so happened that Macy had been dancing with Jesus for a long time. Wow. She told her grandma, she said, "Look, Grandma, I'm dancing with Jesus." And grandma said, "Really?" She said, "D, can't you see? I'm dancing with you." And then that night before she died, she saw him praying for a woman on the floor. Then, wow. She saw him when he came, walked in that hospital room with Gloria watching, picked that little child up and took her. Wow.
Well, did God kill or no? The devil came to kill, steal, and destroy. But Macy drowned in a pool right after that. And she had another medical problem that manifested. But anyway, Jesus does not kill. The old enemy does. He came that we might have life and have it more abundantly. But there's a timing for everybody. There's a time. The Bible says there's a time for you to live, time for you to die, time for a little bit of everything. So I hope you're prepared to die. You know, when I die, I'm going to sleep, and I'm going to be right in the arms of Jesus Christ, just like that. And you can be too. But there's some of you out there, you're wondering, you know, what, Alberta, I lost, I aborted my child. And good, sorry. And Alberta, there's nothing I can do about it. Listen, we're not here to condemn anyone. The thing we're telling you is this, you want to see your baby again? Come to Jesus. Say, "Lord, just as I am, without, and plead that you died for me, Jesus Christ is real." And then tell him, "Come into my heart and into my life. I repent of the abortion. I repent of all sin." He'll come in. And when it comes your time, and none of us know when it's going to be our time, true. Yes. Amen. Comes your time, you walk into heaven. The angels will come and get you, take you into heaven. And you know what? You're going to see that little aborted child. And Grandma and Grandpa, you're going to see that aborted child. Amen. You're going to see that little one, two-year-old that died in a hospital bed of cancer or whatever else. If you've got Jesus in your heart and in your life, that's why it's important.
Well, Alberta, I just can't just tell him, you know what, Jesus, I really don't believe, but I want to believe. Wow. Show me your glory and your honor. Show me that you died on the cross and you rose again. He'll do it. He'll, he'll show you who he is.
Well, does he only walk in the room for Macy? He's everywhere. I've had him show up at three of my meetings in person. Wow. That's. And one I was doing in Houston. Now, all glory to Jesus, none to me. I'm writing the book, and it will be, Lord, why would you use somebody like me? So figure the rest out. Amen. So anyway, I'm doing a meeting in Houston. Now, I want you to see how real God is. I thought I could, thought I seen him in my mind come in him and some angels into my meeting. One of those most powerful meetings in Houston, Texas. And after the meeting, this man brought his two sons up, two boys, they're about nine, 10, or 11, and brought him up. And he said, "Alberta, these boys of mine want to tell you something." And I said, "What is it?" He said, "We saw Jesus ministering beside you platform with many angels." Now, don't look at me as if I'm some big deal. No, Jesus can show up anywhere he wants to. He showed up in that meeting. And then recently, I'm doing a Full Gospel Businessman meeting, and he showed up there too. And a woman, Bishop Stanley's daughter, Mary, son, and wrote actually wrote me a note from Jesus later, a letter, and everything he said in that letter is coming to pass and has coming to pass. It's about like you, you know, six, seven months ago, you thought about me, and I didn't know, and you were trying to contact me, but God had the perfect timing. That's right. Timing is so important. And this man and Bishop have prophesied things over Phil and I that I'm telling you, have come to pass and are still coming to pass. Praise God. Right now, as we speak, they're still coming to pass. These are men of God. And I pray that this TV show goes all over. Oh, I know it goes many, many places, but even stronger throughout the whole world, United States of America, the whole world. They've got the goods. They have the goods. They are prophets. Theel.
But listen, I want to get back to the children. Okay? There's a lady out there, and you, you lost a child, young child. Yes. Pray. And you were there to hold it when it went into glory. And in a way, you didn't know the Lord that well. You didn't know him that well. But you say, "Lord, where's my baby? Will I see the baby again? What does he look like or she look like, Lord?" And Jesus would say to you, "My word is true." When that baby died, and this is for every, all you other women and men out there too, men too. You held your little child. It's not just women, this is men and women. You held your little child. You said, "Jesus, where, where's this little child of mine going?" Wow. As that little child's spirit leaves the body, you know what happens to it? It's right back in heaven quicker than you can blink your eye. Wow. But it's up to you to receive him into your heart and into your life and say, "Jesus, listen, I've known him. I was saved in Vegas. I don't." Anyway, it's been a few years. Yeah. And it was by an old blind preacher who couldn't see, and he had the guy with him lead him up to me, because God pointed me out, even though he was blind. Wow. That's fine. I got saved, baptized in the Holy Spirit, baptized in water, all in the same day. But this is what, what I want to tell you, Jesus is everywhere.
Well, how does he hear all these billions of prayers? I don't know. But you know, if the, if they can get all this stuff on Earth, think of what a system he has up in heaven. Oh, that's a good word. And Jesse Duplantis said, when he went into heaven, the angel said, "I want to show you. I want to show you where these babies are kept." Wow. You know, Jesse Duplantis, he wouldn't say an untrue word if you paid him. And then other ministers have been taken there now, and they've seen. Oh, there's some women out there, you're hurting. And teacher from abortion. [Music] Yes. Sorry. I have a. Could you shut it off for just a minute, brother? Let me get a hold of this car. We're going to go to the commercial. We'll be right [Applause] [Music] back.
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Welcome back. We had to take that short break. The Apostle's ready. Apostle, what were you saying earlier? I was talking to girls out there that have had abortions. Okay? But it's just not the girls. Some of you men. Ooh, that's good. Were cheated. That's right. And you said, you know, Alberta, I didn't want that abortion. Good work. I didn't want, I didn't want her to get an abortion. But there's some men that have you totally get an [Music] abortion. Listen, my daughter got pregnant at 15. Everybody in the county, including one pastor, said, "Get an abortion. Get rid of that kid." Wow. But God said, "No." In the cab, he told her, "Don't, don't get rid of that child. Name him Jacob." Wow. And so I know what it's like to be a grandparent, and somebody in your family has either committed abortion, or and you're a man out there and you said, "You know what, Alberta, I wonder what that little kid looks like. I didn't even get a chance to even put my two cents." Well, listen, brother, or brothers, God saw that. And there's one of you out there, you never got over. Matthew 18 said, Peter asked Jesus, "How many times should I forgive my brother if he trespasses against me?" "Till seven times." See, I believe Peter was trying to get out of out of, uh, he had this old boy did him wrong, and he said, "Okay, I'll forgive him seven times, and then I'll put a curse on him or whatever I wanted to do." That's good. Listen, man, if you've lost a baby due to an abortion that your girlfriend or your wife had, you count too. Wow. Because they always leave the man out. You know, good word. But there's one of you out there, you really, maybe more, you need to forgive the woman. You need to forgive the, the parents or grandparents that included her, told her, "Get an abortion." And grandparents, you need to repent and ask God to forgive you. Forgive yourself for it. Encouraged them to kill your grandbaby. You didn't know. Nobody's condemning you. You're not condemned. Go to Jesus and say, "Lord, I repent for the day that I decided to have that done to my daughter or granddaughter." As my pastor was dying, his granddaughter was in, this is my old pastor, not my new one. That granddaughter was in the abortion clinic getting an abortion as he was dying. Wow. You got to see that little child, whatever it was. But you know what? Let me tell you something, men, you, Jesus didn't leave you out. He knows you didn't want her to kill, to abort that [Applause] baby. Go to Jesus now. Men, I'm talking to you. Go to Jesus. Ask him to come into your heart and to your life. Repent of your sins. He died on the cross, a miserable death, rose again on the third day. He's so real when he appears in different meetings himself. You know he is there. And you know, Macy saw Jesus. She danced with him before she died, quite a few times. You need to go right now and make a commitment to Christ. And then guess what, men? When you die, you're going to see that little baby. Wow. And if you've encouraged your girlfriend or wife to get an abortion, repent. Just repent. Just say, "Jesus, I'm sorry. Come into my heart. Forgive me for my sins." He will. And then when you walk out of this life, now you're going to walk out of this life. It's either hell or heaven. Take your pick. Take your pick. But if you will repent now, oh, and I'm talking to a man, you're crying right now. [Music] You're crying. And one of you is crying too about not an aborted baby, but a child you lost by death. And women, you are too. Come on now. Jesus is real. What happened to Gloria Gaspie and her granddaughter happens every day, 24/7. What happens when they die? The angels come and get them. Jesus says, "Come on." He puts his hand out. "Come on, child." My little four-year-old granddaughter, he took her to heaven and let her see heaven. She came back ready to preach. God told her things. She saw things that no four-year-old could see. Wow. And she came back to tell about it. That's power. So you men, you women, if you have lost a child in death, whether it's abortion or any other way, you know what you do? Go to Jesus right now. Right now. Make it right with him. That's right. And women, don't you be condemned. You go to him. Name that baby if you know what, what it was. You can name it anyway and carry that, you know, not the baby, but just take your hands out like this and say, "Jesus, I'm carrying my child to you." Wow. I had that done in Reno in a meeting, and when many women fell and wept, I had them just carry their child to Jesus and present it to him. They all got set free. Powerful word. Powerful.
Because of time, I want to give a shout out to Justin. Powerful music, young man. Well done. And I will, we'll have you back. And Apostle, we'll have that. But before we close, can you pray us out? Oh, yes. Heavenly Father, we come to you in Jesus' name. And Lord God, we thank you. We thank you, Jesus. We can take no glory. We can take no honor. We can take no praise for for what's been done here today. You get all the glory. You get all the honor. Precious Jesus, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Touch the people out there. Get them back, back in ministry if they've left ministry. Heal those that have had abortions. Lord, heal the men who were fathers and didn't have a say in the abortion. Heal the grandparents who may have had a say in the abortion, and they just need to repent. That's it. Or any other kind of death of a child. Right now, you just take that child wherever you are in your living room, kitchen, wherever it is, take your hands like this and walk over to Jesus. Jesus, and present that child to him. And name those, the aborted children. Name them. They got names in heaven. And you people that have lost your babies in death, man, women, no, they're with Jesus. They're not at the age of accountability. The angels and Jesus came to get them. They're safe in that nursery in heaven. Praise God. I want to conclude and thank you for having us. Now, if you want the Apostle to come out, speak at your meetings, the information is right here on your screen. I would encourage you to do so. We want prayer or email or contact information, it's right there. We'll probably bring her back. She lives a long ways away from here. We're in Orange County, California. She's in Washington. But from time to time, we'll have her on through Zoom, so you can still hear her preach and teach and help you with the things of God that you need to know to bring victory in your life. Until next time, I'm Dr. Ken, the great Apostle Orel Roberta. We'll see you next time on Pastor's [Applause] Perspective.
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