Roberts Liardon on Smith Wigglesworth

Foreign, hello. Good afternoon, everyone. And good afternoon. There wasn't a five-minute countdown, but here I am. Uh, we're gonna get started, uh, for our session with Dr. Robert Slurden in a few minutes. Um, I just wanted to go over a couple things that we need to be aware of for tonight's service and for the rest of the conference.

The first one is that we ask that you only have water in here. So if you have coffee or soda, it stains, it makes a mess, especially if it gets tipped over. And we just ask that you keep all your food and drinks, other than water, out of the, um, out of here.

Someone's car was parked in a spot that wasn't supposed to be. I don't know if it's been moved, but if you have a New York license plate that's Aku 7709, they were parked in the loading dock. So if that's you, New York Plate Aku 7709, it needs to be moved right away, or else I don't know what's going to happen to it.

The last thing is, um, for tonight's service, we are not reserving seats. And, uh, so when you leave here, you need to take all your belongings with you. And we're going to clean up the space. We're going to put some, we have some stuff that needs to be done here. Our VIP guest, your spots will still be here, but for those who came in general admission, uh, you cannot hold the seat for tonight's service. So we encourage you to come early. Uh, we're expecting that this place will be filled tonight, as Pastor Benny Hinn is ministering. Bill's excited. Hey, come on. His best and dear, his dearest friend. I've been friends for 50 years. And so we're excited. So please, um, please no keeping your stuff here. We will not leave your stuff on your seat. If it's here, it will be put into a lost and found, which we haven't designated yet. I might just give it to Pastor Don and we'll see what happens. He's gonna sell it. So don't leave any valuables or unvaluables. You'll still sell them.

But I just wanted to take a second and honor a couple of dear friends, um, that are here. It's, uh, very dear friends of mine. They've become new friends, I would say recently. But there's always people who come into your life and talking about mothers and fathers and the son-daughter relationship. And in the last year, uh, there's a couple who's come into my life and become a real mother and a father. And, uh, it's Robert and Carolyn Norcross, and it's their 55th wedding anniversary today. [Laughter] Isn't that amazing? That's double my lifetime. Praise God. You've done it. That's amazing. And so, uh, for all of you who've been married for a long period of time, it's, it's such a gift from God. And we're thankful that we still have an example of what healthy marriages look like here in Canada.

And so, before Dr. Robert Slurden comes and shares, for those who don't know maybe about him and why he's here, why a part of this Timothy conference, why he's here. Robert has a special ministry that's been given to him by God to share the history of our people, of believers, of men and women of God who have said yes, and that God has used throughout history. And it's just amazing. He's, he's a wealth of knowledge. But he's traveled around the world. He's done tapes, he's done books, which you can get today, by the way. And he's just a minister. But not only is he a historian and revivalist, he's also a man who carries his own anointing to minister revival. And I know my mom and dad, especially, very close to me, have been deeply impacted by his ministry. I've been impacted by his ministry. And if it wasn't for him, one of my personal heroes, we're going to learn about today, is a man named Smith Wigglesworth. And if it wasn't for, for the man of Dr. Robert Slurden, I don't know that I would be in the place that I am today. I've been so deeply influenced by his work, by what he's done, and the effort that he's put in to preserve our history. And so, would you join me in welcoming today, Dr. Robert Slurden? [Applause] [Music]

Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. It's good to be back in Canada. It's always good to be with Pastor Bill and his wife and, and, uh, with Mr. Arnott and all the speakers. Tonight should be fun because the top Hinn evangelist of the, of our nations is going to be here. And he's not Canadian, really, or American. He's from Israel. So we'll see how God, uh, works that all out. And, uh, there's only one Benny Hinn, and you get to experience him. And so come expecting and come to have fun. Everybody say fun. Uh, fun is part of God's plan for your life. No matter where he puts you or calls you, fun should be a part of it. The only deal I made with Governor I started was if it's not fun, I quit. And I've been doing it since I was 17 years old. Amen.

We're going to start in just a moment. I want to give you, uh, I've written 98 books so far. Has anybody read all 98 yet? You didn't clap after you read them. But we, humans read one of my books, two or three. All right, good. We have specials going on. I write small books and I write big books. These are not door stoppers. These are books. All right. Now, the reason why these are special, we're going to talk about these two guys today. This is all the unpublished sermons of Wigglesworth. There's none left in the world. They're all in this book. So if you get this book, you don't need to buy any more Wigglesworth books for the rest of your life because the publishers hijacked all their little devotionals out of my book. Shame on them. And, but the reason why I put this together, because our publishers took out his prophecies, his tongues and interpretations, and his spiritual songs that he would sing during his service. And so when I saw they would print them without that in them, I got mad and put them all back in there and put them in this book. So you, you'll be happy. Now, this is the biggest book I put together. That's over a thousand. And that's all of John G. Lake's unpublished sermons that his daughter gave me before she died. I, I knew both the descendants of the Wigglesworth and Lake family. And I was driving, John Lake's daughter, her name was Gert troop. Is that a good old-timey name? Gertrude. And her husband was Wilford. Wilford, Gertrude. And so I was driving Wilford and Gert troop from Brother Hagin's office to Brother Robert's office. And so you have to go about 10 miles. So I asked her, I said, do you have any stuff of your dad's I could have? And she waited a mile to go, yes. And we did another mile before she told me what I got. So she gave me all of her dad's unpublished sermons and a copy of all the family photographs. And, um, so I said, what am I supposed to do with this? You go, what you want. So here's what I want to do. You can have them. How many know who John G. Lake is? All right. How many don't? He's Canadian. You should know. You don't have that many great people up here. You should know. That's the American have to come at you a little bit. Thank you, Victor. And, um, don't stone me yet. I got two more sessions with you all.

All right. Um, I wrote the series of books that I'm still writing called God's Generals. That means everybody in the General's books. Um, I never thought they would become what they've become right now because I know where I came from. And but I chronicle the lives of men and women that God's used. And I tell you the good, the bad, and the indifferent about them. And because before I came along, no one told you the sad part or the challenging part of their life. They only told you the romance. And if you don't give both the good and the bad, you don't know how to navigate life according to their influence or their story. And you should write this down. Everybody great has done something stupid. So write it down. And when I talk, you must take notes, or may God torture you the whole time you don't do that. All right. So there's hope for you, me, and all the other people that have made mistakes. Just some people's mistakes are more known than others, but everybody's done it. And so we have six volumes out and they're going to be six more before I'm done. So they have specials back there. And you can, they'll give this to you, Victor. You can get those there.

All right. We're going to start a journey today. And we're going to talk about several people, mainly two people that you know of. One's Canadian, one's British. None of them are Americans. So you should be happy about that. And, um, I don't know why. Well, I do know why your great preachers come to my country because we actually believe in you being big and powerful. We're the Canadian culture is like the British culture, the tall poppy syndrome. You get too big, we cut you down. And that's a devil. Thank you for the one amen from the Brit. Uh, the, the Canadian over here. Are you ready for me? Are you sure?

I was 12 years old. I was watching Laverne and Shirley on television when I was 12 years old. And a foot came walking through the front door without opening the door. And a whole body walked through the front door. And it was Jesus that came walking through my front door. When I was 12 and a half years old, he took three steps toward me to where I was sitting on the sofa. And the room moved back to about 500 yards where you can barely hear the television in the distance. And he said this to me. He said, "Study the lives of my generals. Know why they succeeded and why some failed. For there will come a generation who won't know what I will show you if you will do what I tell you to do. For in those days, many gifts will be dormant and wounded, and they must be unwrapped and healed and launched again." And he began to talk along those lines. And he turned around and walked back out the door. And I went back to watching Laverne on television. You say, why did you do that? Well, that's what a 12-year-old boy does when you have a visitation from God. You're like, oh, plus, I must be honest with you, I didn't like anything that he said. Have you ever had an encounter with the Lord and what he told you to be like, really? He gave me that assignment. That was kind of how I felt as a little boy because I didn't like certain words that he said because I knew what they meant. When he said, "study," I knew what that meant. That meant read big books with no pictures in them. That meant you're going to spend time in those days in libraries, not on your computer. We didn't have computers in those days. And, uh, just during the lives of preachers. And I thought, who wants to study preachers? Because the preachers I was around at that time were fat, bald-headed, and spit when they preached. And that was kind of the, the Jesuit I thought preachers were. But I was raised in a Pentecostal family that we had the Bible and then we had Grandma's influential rules that we thought was God. You ever had something like that in your family? That was my grandmother. And there was Grandma's laws of, uh, entrance into heaven and entrance to hell. And there was the scriptures. And, and so one of the ones that were kind of left to us like, if you're not doing the will of God when he comes, you don't go. So I didn't want to go to hell because I didn't want to read a book about a famous preacher. So in case he came that night, I went and got a little biography out of our friendly library so I could at least say I tried. So at least I could go to heaven if he came that night. And so I read the first chapter, a little bit of the second chapter, and something happened to me. Something that still lives inside of me today. A consuming desire to read and talk to old people came over me. See, why talk to old people? Because young people have nothing to tell you that's important. The old people have it all. Are you here? And so I began to read books and books and books and books and books and books. And then one day I realized, you know, Aimee McPherson's son is still alive. Catherine Coleman's secretary is having lunch somewhere. I found them. And I began my journey. I never thought it would become that I would be flown to to Canada to talk about this because I come from a little small town called Tulsa. Come from country people, not rich, not famous, love Jesus, fight devils, have fun. That's what we did. And the Lord launched me into this because everybody great has set where you sat today. They've sat with your problems, your family issues, your economic challenges, and your concerns and worries about your call and your destiny. Everybody greatest sit in a chair where you've sat today. Everybody's faced the challenges we face. A new time in our day. Our great leaders that have led us for over 50 years, 95% of them are all dead in heaven now. Very few of them are left. And coming to you and I is the next generation of responsibility. It is now coming to us. There are people becoming leaders by default. They have not planned it. They did everything they would be. But because you're still here, you become one of those leaders. That's the way many Christian leaders have come about by default. They've just remained faithful when others quit, others walked away, others gave in, and the others stayed true. You may not be the best looking. He may not be the best educated. He may not be the best whatever, but you're still here. And that counts for something. People of the history set where you sit. A young girl in in Britain wanted to go to China, but she ended up in India. A little girl named Amy Carmichael prayed when she was a little girl that she wanted her brown eyes to turn blue because she had blue eyes. And she was convinced that God could do anything. So she thought when she woke up in the morning that God would have turned her brown eyes blue. But she found out her eyes were still brown when she looked at them in the mirror that morning. And had a Jesus problem for a few days and worked it out. She came off the boat as a young lady into India and went to her territorial place where she was supposed to start her ministry and discovered one of the evilest things she'd ever saw in her life. But every family in this percentage of this village gave one of their children to the temple priest to own for life as a sex slave or a slave of some kind. And those children had been given for generations to that God of that temple. She went to the parents and said, "Don't do this no more." And they said, "We shall, we must keep the god kind toward us." She went to the priests and they rebuked her and threw her out. She went back home and couldn't get the children's face out of her mind and out of her heart. Couldn't let it fade from her. And so she came up with an idea. How do I get the kids out myself? She dressed up in the Indian sari dress that the ladies would wear and got coffee grounds and put them on her face so she would turn from white to brown. There was no Estee Lauder in those days. If you put coffee grounds on her face to make her look brown like the Indian ladies and walk into the temple and put under a dress, a little girl, little boy, and walked him out. And ever so many days she went and got one and began to bring them out. And eventually the temple priests began to notice that the kids were disappearing to know where they went. What if Jesus had turned her brown eyes blue? She couldn't have done that. The moral of the story is this: When God tells you no, it's not because he's mad at you. It's because he knows about your future. That no is the right answer for you today. So may I shall present to you today as ministers of the Gospel here, if God has told you no, it's not because he's mad at you or punishing you. He knows something about your future that no is the right answer for you today. And we have to learn how to accept his no's and couldn't be mad at him, angry at him, and leaving him because you didn't get your spoiled way. If God would have changed Amy's eyes blue, brown, blue to bloom, she would not have been able to be the great missioner she became. Amy Carmichael is one of our heroes.

You go a little bit further on the great comet of Africa. A Scottish man decides to come. His name is David Livingstone. The world knows him as the great African explorer. David Livingstone said, "I'm first a minister of the Gospel, then an explorer." But he felt the burden of God to go to Africa and help map out the interior of Africa because the coastlines had been done. So he got on a boat. And it wasn't the Love Boat or Titanic, the gold boats. It took forever to get where they went. And he journeyed his way into the interior and began to map out the villages and the mountains and the streams and the rivers. And the reason why he did this for two reasons: He wanted to help the British Empire to send their military into the interior to help stop the slave trade from its source. And he wanted to make a map so that the missionaries knew where all the people were so they could navigate themselves and go straight to where the souls they were supposed to win for Christ could be found. He would die on the continent of Africa. And the British government would acquire and ask, "Would this body be sent back to England that we may give him a proper British burial in the great Westminster Abbey Cathedral there?" If you walk through the door of the Abbey, you'll walk right on top of David Livingstone and not even know he's there. The African chief that had Livingstone's body had a problem because by this time, they declared him an African. Even though he didn't have the right color or the right hair and didn't know the language, but he lived there so long and worked among them, they declared him, "He's one of us." Is there any people group that when you die would claim you as one of them? If you don't, then you've not lived the kind of life that Christ asks you to live. So the chiefs that got together and said that since he loved us, we'll keep his heart and send his body back to England. And that's what they did. On an afternoon, in a ceremony, the only Africans Africans could produce, they opened his chest up and took out the heart of Livingstone and put in a little steel box where he kept his Bible and his maps and his notes. And buried it there where, by what they call the Livingstone Tree. They assigned a little native African young man to go with that body all the way to England. And if they did not treat the body right, to bring the body back to Africa. When they brought the body to the English embalmers to prepare the body for the burial, they must write down everything they notice about the body in the record. And on Livingstone's both arms, from his wrist to his shoulders, were scars up and down his arms. And they went through his journal and all of his public speeches and could not find why there were scars so many on the arms of David Livingstone. And they brought the little native boy and said, "Can you explain this?" And he goes, "Oh, it's very, very clear to me. Every chief that he met on his journey, he made a blood covenant with him. Cut his wrist, and they got, and so that the military and the missionary could come behind him and not be killed or considered an enemy, but be embraced as family and a part of the tribe." Besides mapping out the path of how to get to them, he made peace so they could come and bring their message of Christ to them. That's the price of a missionary. He never saw the harvest, but he paved a road. I was in a little town in Malawi where David Livingstone lived for a year and did not have one convert for one year. He stepped there and taught them about Christ and, and other aspects of Western life. And they liked him because he spoke a different language and his hair was different. He was kind and he was an oddity. So they liked the oddity in their village, but not one person accepted Jesus. A hundred years later, a German evangelist named Bonke shows up in the same town and preaches the gospel. And on the opening night, 20-some thousand find Christ in his meeting. He writes in the book that I wrote, he says, "I walk off the stage and I think, wow, what a great night. What good preaching." And the Lord says, "No, it's the seed of David Livingstone that you reap tonight that was a hundred years old." I want to make an application to us. We will reap on other generations' labor in our lifetime. And may we be thankful and acknowledge them in our heart, and sometimes publicly. But we also will sow and labor in places that another generation ahead of us shall reap on the labors of our prayer and our sweat and on our money. And let us never pull back from doing that kind of work that we may never see the harvest of it. We know somebody in front of us will get to stand in that stage, on that field, or in that bar that we prayed for. We did what we did that they may stand there and reap a harvest. The ministry of the Lord continues not just by one person, but generationally connected. We as Pentecostals are the most vibrant group of Christians in the world today. We're the most loud, controversial, and what we do normally works better than most other Christian groups. You see, that's awful arrogant, but it's a fact. What Baptist has a Christian network that works? What networks from other denominations? It does not work. It's the Full Gospel people that do these things that work in the nations of the world. And the reason why I said that today, because I know we may have a mixed crowd, but I'm assuming everybody is a tongue talker or on their way. All right. And I won't, before I get into my, oh, there's Mr. Livingstone. I didn't know he was back there. There he is. When I get to heaven, I hope they all like me telling their story. I hope they don't rebuke me for messing it up. Thanks for coming.

The, the great things about us, we have to acknowledge something today. We are not just Protestants. When you look at the Christian family, we start out as one big group. And then we had to have a break from what we call the Catholic Church because they were so ridiculously bound in the wrong kind of things. And so a German monk named Luther comes up and goes, "Enough is enough." And on Halloween night or Halloween day, declares a revival called the Protestant Reformation. It starts that day. It's kind of interesting that Halloween is the day that the Protestant Reformation was born. For 250 years, Halloween was a sacred holiday. Somehow the devil took it over. Maybe you should take it back. Maybe you should actually work on that. And so the Protestants come. And then we have all the evangelicals. And they would call us Christian evangelicals. Well, I don't, not rejecting those titles, but I'm not an evangelical, and neither are you. We are a Spirit-filled people group. All right. And we need to identify that way without apologizing. Okay. Now, here's what it is. Baptists, Lutherans, most of us Christians, in our basic doctrine, believe the same thing. About where we split from the other groups, not because we wish to split, but because the truth makes us make that split. When it comes to the Holy Spirit, we believe that everything that he said in Matthew, Luke, John, Acts, still happens today. And none of it has been done away with. He still talks today. He still heals today. He still delivers today. He still does everything. And I am glad we made that split. And I will not apologize for it. I want to bring you into my attitude. It is time to quit kissing about the Canadian religion and start kicking the butt of your religion. And the first place it starts is quit apologizing for being a Spirit-filled people. If you don't like us, you move. Now, our leaders talk like I talk. They act like I'm projecting today. Somehow we think we come from nice spoken Christian leaders. And that's a bunch of crap. Good evening. I love Charles Spurgeon, but he's not my ancestral person. I love some of these great people I read about, I write about them, but I come from Charles Spurgeon, not sure, but Charles, forgive me. I kept on William Seymour. I come from Amy McPherson. I come from Catherine Coleman. I come from Oral Roberts. I come from Kenneth Hagin. I come from these people. Now, I love Spurgeon, you can quote him, but he doesn't cast out a devil. Hey, you said you're dividing us. No, I'm not dividing you. I'm making you become secure in who you are and what kind of people you are. For many years, evangelicals have intimidated tongue-talking Pentecostals. And it's time we quit being intimidated and start being loud again, what we're called to be, publicly and privately, in our world. Hallelujah. Whoa. I am 57 years old and I plan not to die quietly. I finally got to an age where I can say what I want and don't care what you think about it. Hopefully, I can get you in the same vein. We come from men and women who challenged the theology of the day, principalities of the time, and the cultural ebbs and flows of their time. They didn't do everything perfect. Every one of our leaders, you can find fault with, but Jesus still likes them. And he still called them. He anointed them and put them up there. So there's hope for you and all your crazy kids. So quit being worried about some of these things and start doing what you're called to do. In history, you'll find little traits of the Pentecostal, of the Spirit-filled life, all through history. But sometimes it's so quiet and so small, but it began to rise in the late 1800s when the healing ministry began to become dominant again in God's heart and mind. He said, "It's time to make my healing ministry a known fact in the earth again." And he began to look for somebody that he could put his healing revelation in, but have the disposition to stand up against the religious belief, the cultural persecution, and the demonic strategies. And when there was a Scottish guy named Dowie, they went to Australia. And he, um, he had a visitation during an epidemic in Australia. They were, he was doing more funerals than weddings. He was burying church members from other churches because her pastor had died. And when you keep burying people as a pastor, eventually you'll cry out for some type of help. And Dowie had buried so many, and he was tired. And he was walking through his house in the suburb of Sydney, Australia. And he said, "God, can't you do what you did when you walked the shores of Galilee? Can't you heal again? Can't you come and heal the sick like you did them?" And see, there was no healing back those days. What you forgot, they never heard. And I was sitting in this house praying like that under his breath. And God took one verse, Acts 10:38: "How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and power, who went about doing good, healing all that were oppressed of the devil, for God was with him." And at that moment, he had a revelation. God don't make people sick. The devil does. And we can get rid of it. And about the time that revelation began to drop into his spirit, just about 10 minutes, there was a knock at his front door. Little child from down the street from one of the members. The mother had said, "Go get Pastor Dowie." And the child was out of breath. "Come, Pastor, come. Mommy needs you. My sister's dying." So I ran out of the house without my coat and my hat, ran down the street and walked into the house. And the doctor was there, right out the death certificate of the little girl. The doctor said to Dowie, he says, "I, I can't stay here. Until she's going to die, she'll be dead in about two hours. But I filled it all out. Just put out the time she dies, and I'll come by tomorrow and get the certificate, and we'll process her death in the graveyard." He goes, "No." Kind of shocked to the doctor. I thought maybe he's sick now. He walks into the room and finds the mother wringing her hands and disturbed and crying, as you would if your child was dying and the doctor told you she'll be dead within two hours. Faith sometimes is rude because it has to always carry emotion with it. I like faith raw. It's rude when you hear it in your soul, but it works beautifully in the spirit. He goes, "Why did you have me come?" She goes, "Well, I thought you might be able to do something." He said, "I think I can." We have no record of what the prayer was when he prayed his first healing prayer for a little girl that was dying. When they finished the prayer, probably no more than three minutes at the most, they all stepped back to see if the prayer would work. They said they watched the little girl for a while. Nothing seemed to happen. You know, a minute can seem like an hour in those kind of situations. All of a sudden, she opened her eyes. "Mom, I want some cocoa." The mom runs off and gets her some hot cocoa, brings her, she drinks. "I want some toast." She runs up and gets the toast. Turns out, any sauce. And within an hour, she's up playing with her sister like she's never even been sick at all. That was the first miracle that God did through Dowie's life. The great healing ministry of Dowie had begun. He came on his journey after he became famous in Australia. He would become famous fast when you're the only healer in a country. Came to America to San Francisco. And the newspapers there declared, "Australian healer is here." And they lined up down the hallway of the hotel, around the hotel, out the front door to get Dowie to pray for him. And Dowie, he allowed the press in the room because he, it was not afraid for the press to watch what God would do. Unlike you had a big Swede. He sat there. And he had a belief at that time that if you weren't Christian, you didn't deserve to be healed. That's what he believed. So he interviewed the sick. And if you weren't Christian, "Go away, stay sick." And he kept moving them through the line until he found a woman that had a, a goiter the size of a, a coconut on her neck. He said, "You're a Christian." He gets up, walks over, and slaps it off of her neck and rolls on the floor. And he picks up with his handkerchief and says to the press, "Then that's how God heals. Goiter off. Perfect neck. Goiter off. Lady healed. Jesus wins." That's his first miracle in America. He, he goes to Chicago. And in Chicago in those days, with early, uh, 1900s and 1800s, was the biggest Hampton City in America. It was the great city. The World's Fair would be there that day. Here. And so they, now he thought the last place to get the healing. They should go around the world. Let's go do it at the World's Fair where they're all there in one place and they can hear it and see it. But they didn't like him. They wouldn't sell him a booth in the fair. They liked D.L. Moody, who was in Chicago. And Moody had a Sunday service every Sunday in there in the World's Fair. But Dowie wasn't allowed in. But it didn't make an apostle man. He just bought the big building next to the entrance, answered his church there. See, just because they say no, this doesn't mean there's not a way to do it. You gotta have to be creative and blunt. You need the gift of faith and the audacity of rude faith to make things work sometimes. And he announces healing to the world. He becomes one of the main attractions of the World's Fair at that time. You could hear Moody preach and get saved, but if you were a cripple, you could walk. And hit. Now he's placed so they all went over there. His place more. And God told him to stay in Chicago and not go around the world. He became the spiritual governor of Chicago. Moody was the advantage of the world that lived there. Everybody in Chicago that time had been visited by one of Dowie's church members. He had a mega church of close to 7,000 people at one time in Chicago in the late 1800s. He bought big houses, those Victorian houses, because the sick of the world were coming to him. And he put them in the homes. And he had healing people he had trained to help heal the sick all over town in these homes. You could not become mayor without Dowie's approval. You couldn't do certain things without his approval because he swayed so many people that lived there. But he got bored and decided he would do something different. Let's build us a city. He goes 40 miles north of Chicago and builds a city called Zion that still exists today. He's the mayor, he's the only pastor, he's the banker, he's the new spirit, he's everything. And it grows almost 30,000 citizens. Teddy Roosevelt went and spent three days with him to figure out what he was doing. He, Dowie was so advanced, he prophesied the advent of TV and radio. The Postal Service in Chicago wouldn't let him mail his magazine out. So he went to D.C. to talk to the head guy. While he was there, President McKinley said, "I want to meet this Dowie guy." And he comes out of a cabinet meeting to meet the healing preacher named Dowie. And Dowie warns him, "I behold that your life is in danger, sir." They didn't listen to him. So that president got shot and died. You might want to listen to folks have connection to the other world. Dumb president like the one we got now. I talked to the last living eyewitness of Dowie's ministry. He was 96 years old when I found him. The last one to seem operate in his church in Zion. He said, "During the healing part of the service, they would roll across the front. We'd call it a kind of practice plastic canvas across the front of the church before the the sick would come down and stand on it." I said, "Well, why would you do that?" He goes, "Well, when they got done, all this stuff would be on the floor. Stuff would fall out, come out." He says, "Over time, they just had this cloth. And think of an usher's job. Ushers. So they rolled it and all across the front. All the sick would come down. Dowie and the elders would pray. When they throw it up, fall it off, poop it out, whatever, it all happened right there in the church." That's what he said. Left the crutches or whatever it was. And when that was over, they play a song. They'd all say, they'd roll it up, take it out the side door and burn it that afternoon. That was a typical Sunday service for Dowie. I'd like to have one service with plastic on the front.

Okay. Now, John G. Lake was born in your country of Canada. He got into the Methodist Church. His wife had gotten very sick. And he'd heard about this guy named Dowie that got people healed. And he sent a telegram on Dowie's desk was a time stamp machine. They'd walk into his office and there'd be a stack of telegrams from around the world. "Pray for me. Pray for my daughter. Pray for my kid." And they'd read it to him. And he would pray. And they'd hit the time that he prayed and sent a response back. Lake had sent a telegram for this unusual character named Dowie to pray for his sick wife that was dying. And Dowie prayed and hit the stamp. The word was, "She will not die." Dowie, that was it. Two days later, she was okay. Lake's wife had been totally healed. Well, they were all happy. She didn't die. But the noise of the healing in that town caused them to begin to bring sick people to Lake's home. And Lake didn't know what to do. She goes, "I don't know. I just sent the telegram to Dowie. I got a telegram back and my wife's okay. I don't know." That's how it all started. And so because of the pressure of the people going, "Well, your wife got healed, you must know something. You're a preacher. You could be a preacher and be stupid." And some of you went to those churches. My advice to you is, don't go to a dead-end church. If it takes 20 extra minutes or 30 drive, the extra to go to a living, life-good church for you and your family. [Music]

And so he packed up his bags, the Beverly Hillbillies, and moved to Zion. And he became a part of the board of the church. And he lived on the street because Zion is very fun. If you ever go there, as we find Elijah, Rose of Sharon Street, Mount, you know, all this stuff is all done in Bible terms even today. McDonald's is on Rose of Sharon Street. How you like that one? On the street that John G. Lake lived on, across the street was another man named F. Bosworth. They both had showed up at the same time because they both got involved in the healing ministry of almost by mistake. And they couldn't find me to believe that they hit him energy. So they went to Dowie's place. Bosworth had been healed and followed Dowie magazine and thought, "Hey, there's somebody else in the earth that thinks about it like I do." So he packed up his bags and moved to that street. Lake packed up his bags and moved that. And they became across the street neighbors. Now, down at this time, began to do something stupid. He began to think that he was Elijah. All right, write this down. Here's my first prophecy: "You will never be Elijah in your life," says the Lord. And Robert Slurden. Okay. I don't know why people, especially in our circles, fantasize about being Elijah. Please just be who you're supposed to be and be that well and shut up. Quit trying to be what you're not. Just be what you are and be happy and bear fruit and have a good life. So Dowie, well, I can tell you why because he had idiots around him that kept telling him, "You're Elijah. You're Elijah. You're Elijah." And you believe the dumb things. Here's what you do with dumb employees: You fire their butts and don't let them come back. You don't realize how many people have made mistakes because of the wrong people around them. Now, would you please get rid of the idiots quickly and rudely so they won't come back? So that's not very Christian. Yes, it is. God kicked Lucifer out. Follow his example. Now notice who's not laughing because you're guilty. I hope I get invited back for tomorrow. I don't know. People, people, please, please, please, please quit having idiots around you. You don't need butt kisses that go, "Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes." You don't want that because sure enough, you're going to end in the ditch and you're all going to die together in a hole. You need some folks who can hear God for themselves and have enough strength and character to speak up and say what needs to be said to help things stay right scripturally and naturally before God. Amen. So they, they told Dowie, "Oh, now I understand why." Because they've never seen anything like this before. Now, it was like Wigglesworth, he had hits, things would fly off the bodies. You see a few quarters fly across the room. You kind of get enamored with the guy. I get it. But you can't let the gift of God in a human vessel make you think the human vessel is divine. We carry these treasures in our earthen vessels. Be thankful that the God of heaven gave you what he gave you and have enough appreciation to carry it correctly in your own heart and in the public eye. I have a document in my files. I have a letter that Dowie wrote and signed, "Elijah the Restorer," about how far can you go to where you're signing your mail or correspondence by a mental fixation on a deception. Lake would leave Zion. Bosworth would leave Zion. And they went to a little place called Azusa Street because a guy named Charles Parham. What time is it? Oh, it's almost. I bind. I haven't. I haven't. Oh, great picture. You know who's in this? I, I found this picture. It's a great find of mine. Who's this one-eyed Seymour? Okay. Who's the guy in the middle? F. Bosworth. This, there they are. Charles Parham had snuck into Zion because Zion didn't believe in tongue-talking. But there were some people that did. And they went to a house on their street. They all came to the house meeting. And Parham told them, "It's happening out in L.A." So they got on the train, go to L.A., get the Holy Ghost. And here's proof they were there. There's Azusa Street with the two great journals on their making right there. Lake eventually gets full of a ministry. He actually, he was a wealthy businessman. And he would, he would do deals. And before he could actually finish the deal, he would start witnessing to the people and lose the deal. He said, "I, I lost the ability to do business properly because my concern for their soul consumed me." So he left the public world and came into ministry. God told him to go to South Africa. And then we'll go to South Africa. Back in those days was not very exciting here. It wasn't fun. And he had a wife and you showed the same with all the kids. You know, this is Lake as he looked. And the fender went to South Africa. Now, why they have so many kids? Two things: no TV and no birth control. And that's why they have so many kids. All right. So when you look at history, you'll find they have children. And, uh, here's the first family. Now, let me tell you this. The story here. Are you enjoying this? Are you sure? Because I love it. I get lost in it all by myself and have a great time. So they go to South Africa and not know anybody. And so he tells in his writings that he'd been praying and God gave him two thousand dollars to go. But when he lands, he doesn't know where to go, doesn't know what to do. I met the family who this lady was from in South Africa many years ago. There was a Christian lady up by Johannesburg area that had an extra nice big house. And one morning, God spoke to her, "Go to the docks down the coast. There's a missionary coming with this size family." Was it one, two, three, four, five? And the family, five kids. And so she goes to the dock when the Lord tells her to and sends him. "Are you a missionary?" And there'd be a few extra missionaries there. "How many kids you got?" "No, you're not the one." Keep going. And she kept until she hit this family. She goes, "I have a house for you." So he lands with no knowledge of anybody in the country. And God has made accommodations already prepared for him. He goes there with this family. When he believed South Africa, he would leave 625 churches that he built while he was there. He built a denomination called the Apostolic Faith that is still working today. Now, I don't have all the time for all the stories about this. But let me tell you one wild one. He would go out and preach to what we call the bush or the native people. And he was having a good healing crusade out in the middle of nowhere. And he was out there and he had to go home. But there were still people coming to get healed. And so there was not many trees, he said, in

This area, but there's a big old rock, a big old boulder. And he said, "Lord, if you, if you'll do this for me, I've got to go home and check on my family and my wife. I've been out here too long." And they didn't have cell phones in those days, or phones, period, probably. And, um, so he said, "You see this big rock? I'm gonna ask they don't God that put it on me to put on on this rock. Now you'll touch the rock, you can get healed." She prayed on the rock, got his little card, left. Three days later, they sit word to him, "Come back, the rock is still working." He came back, and they were still getting healed. 24 hours, they'd come and touching that rock and getting healed. They were coming by the hundreds and the thousands. And he came back and continued the meeting a few more days.

Welcome to Miracle Ministry of the Mission Field, amen. Now, here's the problem. He was so successful as a young missionary in South Africa that a tragedy came. His wife died of malnutrition and exhaustion. The children you see in this picture would all die as old people, blaming their dad for killing their mom. The children of the first wife. So, you can be having great gifts, great, great miracles, but you still got to do life right. Now, if you have a wife, you've got to take care of her. If you have babies, you've got to take care of them. If you don't want to take care of babies, then don't have any. If you don't take care of a wife or a husband, then don't get one. But if you've got one, you've got to take responsibility to take care of them properly, amen.

Now, now notice how few clapped on that point because you're guilty. Some of you right now have placed your family in a second place priority and not in first. If you put your ministry above your family, trouble is coming to your life. God does not require you to work to the point that your family suffers, to where your wife dies of malnutrition and exhaustion, and your children on their deathbed still say, "You killed their mother."

Lake had to raise money to move back to the States. And he ended up in Spokane, Washington, of all places to go. Spokane, Washington. There's Houston, there's Dallas, there's Nashville, there's other great cities. But no, he ends up in Spokane, Washington, and he starts what they we call the Healing Rooms of Spokane. He did that because he learned from Dali about the what he did, healing homes. So he went from homes to rooms, and then we got healing lines. So it kind of keeps getting smaller as we come down the history line. And so what he did, he trained people. We call them healing technicians, or people he trained to help in the healing rooms. You know what their final exam was to graduate from from Lake's healing school? They gave you a chronically ill person, and if you didn't get them healed, you couldn't work in the healing rooms, and you would not graduate. Let's do that today for Bible School. Let's assign you a cancer patient, heart problem, and if you don't get them healed, you don't graduate. Let's see how the Z generation deals with that. That's how that's how you graduated from Lake's healing rooms, his homes. And what you would do, if you were sick, you'd come in, and they would assign you to one of the people, and they would find out about your physical condition, they locate where your faith was, and determine what we had to do to get your faith up to get you healed. And they'd walk you from where you were to healing. And they had fight. They had a hundred thousand documented miracles in five years in the Healing Rooms of Spokane, to the point at that time, the federal government declared Spokane the healthiest city in America. The mayor of Spokane thanked all the hospitals and nurses and doctors and included like healing rooms as a part of the reason that the city had received that award that year as the healthiest city in America.

John G. Lake changed the culture of the medical world because what the doctors could not do, him and his technicians could do. He'd been die in 1935. He'd be, he'd be married again and have some other children. I knew his daughter that I told you, named Gertrude. Lake was one of those men that advanced in his theology. He was a, I call a spiritual genius in his way, but he was not the best dad. He learned a lot from his first mistake with not taking care of his wife right, but he still always had the struggle between proper time with his children and the demand of ministry. May I say again, if you have children, give them the proper first place in your life that they belong. God is first, they are second, ministry is third. You don't have to have preacher's kids that hate God and hate you and hate the church. You don't have to do that. If you do it right, my friend, do it right. If you get the priorities wrong, there's an issue.

How would John G. Lake die? He would die after having three strokes. Uh, now that doesn't always go over when you have a healing preacher of this, of this kind, and the story and the magnitude of his life, and you go, "That's why they don't tell you the rest of the story." But I will not, because I'm finding fault. Let's learn something. You know, um, you can preach the gospel, you can be used to do miracles, but you have to live it like everybody else lives it. To just because you're the mouthpiece, because you're the person that got anointing to do certain things, does not mean when this, it only lifts up off of us and we go back to our homes and our hotels and our families, we have to live by faith like you do. We have to read the word like you do. We have to build our faith like you do. We have to do the same exact thing. And sometimes the preachers don't do it.

"Why do hiding preachers die sick?" is the number one question I get every place I go. And there's an answer to that question. And there's several, several things you can say. One is, they build their faith for everybody else but themselves. Catherine Coleman died 10 years earlier than she should because she didn't listen to the doctors and she didn't have any faith for herself. I love her. I saw her, and she's the greatest I've ever seen in my life. But I will tell you the truth because I want our generation to do it better. I want us to learn from their successes and when they made a mistake, what was it? And not that we're pulling them down or or calling them bad, but if that happened, then how can we prevent that happening from us? Why did this happen to some of our people? Because one of the big things is, I'll say for a third time, you've got to live it the way you everybody else you teach to live it. You're going to build your faith in here. You've got to build those things. You've got to do it yourself. You've got to get up and read your Bible for yourself, enough for a sermon. You've got to get up and find how to pray for yourself, and not just for the anointing for the service that day. Have you prayed for your own soul? Your own life? Have you told the devils to get off and get out of your life? Well, I'm anointed. Well, shut up and do it.

See, notice who doesn't clap because you think, you think because you're anointed to heal the sick, it works because it's on you. No, it doesn't. It doesn't work that way. That's why healers die sick. They don't take care of themselves, and they've not built faith for their own self. Thank you for the one that good. It's five dollars after the service. That's the last picture of Gundy Lake before he died. You can follow his doctrine, his morality, and his lifestyle. The few areas I've talked about, you can adjust, but this is one man you can follow without having too much concern. The wrong thing will get on you if you follow him. Let me speak to that in a moment. Just right now, we all follow someone as they follow the Lord. When you follow somebody, especially a character like we call the generals, you, you have to know if they made a mistake because you can follow them so close that their same challenges and their same besetting sin comes into you. Learn how to follow and when not to follow. Learn that because some of you follow people too closely, and the wrong thing gets on you.

Are you still here? You like your afternoon session? You want to hear a little bit more? When Lake died in 1935, he was the first of that particular era of Pentecostal leaders to go. But the most famous Pentecostal person today is the name that we've heard two, three times, called Smith Wigglesworth. He was British. Can you believe he was British? Back in those days, the British act like Americans, loud, rude, and dominating. I know what happened to him. Now, now they're so soft. Please, Canada, quit being soft. If you stay soft, the devils are going to control you. And right now, they're taking your big cities over and scaring the rest of you to death. You better roar back at them. If you're going to die, die first class. If, if we're going to have a war, let's have a war. Thank you. Just make sure that still goes when the conference is over. All right.

Wigglesworth was British. He was born in the late 1800s. His mother, his grandmother was a shouting Methodist. Methodist is the Pentecost without tongues. John Wesley's Revival people were a lot like us. And she was a shouting Methodist, and, and she would take young Wigglesworth with her to the Methodist prayer meetings, and he would talk about seeing her shadow around the old stove in the, in the little church. So he was raised with active Christianity. When he was confirmed as a Christian as a young teenager, he reports that he felt the first come in his life, the presence of God that he was conscious of. He was born with a speech impediment. He stuttered when he talked. It was so bad that he could never really do any public speaking at all, even as a child and young adult. In these days, there was a Revival people called The Salvation Army afoot. Now, you all know who the Salvation Army people are. You raise your hand if you know who they are. All right, most, I'll say the Americans, I'm assume up here, they're the bell ringers at Christmas time, okay? That's, that's how we know what they are, okay? That's, that's how they're known. And you see their Salvation Army trucks, and they bring food to hungry people and take your old clothes. That's how they thought about. But in the 1800s, they were Revival people. Wow. They're my favorite Revival people. Can you believe that? And they weren't even Pentecostal. Wow.

The Salvation Army guy, his name was William Booth. His wife was Catherine. They dated by letters and they got married after writing many letters. They decided they were supposed to be together. And so they got together and they became Methodist evangelists in this one district area. And they were going to the local church. And the pastor said, "We want them. We, we want our church to grow. Can you all bring some new people to the church?" See, in those days, when you had those, you bought your pew. So the Smiths bought these two pews, and the, and the Moors bought these pews. So you bought your pew. That's where you would sit. That's where your family would sit. So when you brought a visitor, they would sit on your pew. Your robe. Well, William Keller Booth bought hookers and drunks to church. And you know they weren't church people. They would do things you don't do in church, like ask the pastor, "Can you repeat that, please?" You don't ask that. You, you, you don't drink moonshine or liquor while you're in church. And so they kept disturbing the church to where they were asked not to bring those people back. And so they left that Methodist group, warmed it up in East London, and starts a great Revival. He would go sit in front of the blind beggar pub. I've been to the pub in London where it all kind of started. He wouldn't go into the pub because that was sin. He waited for you to come out. When you came out drunk or whatever, there'd be a real skinny guy with a long white beard preach that. And you either get mad and punch him, cuss him out, and walk on down the road, or you fall on your knees, and he'd fall on his knees and get you saved, and take you home, feed you, and clean you up, and give you a bath, and give you new clothes, and do six weeks of, of training, and then tell you, "Go find you a pub and do what I did to you to those coming out." And that's kind of the way their Salvation Army. I like it. And they became a Revival movement.

Young Wigglesworth works in the Salvation Army. Now, he couldn't speak because he stuttered. So what was his job? He would have a little pony, and he'd walk down the streets of Bradford, and all the little kids in the inner city would run out, "Oh, look at the little horses!" I'll give you two rides, a ride church and a ride home. And Wigglesworth began his ministry as a children's worker in the Salvation Army. How you like that? Now, this cinnamon's an old man, nice guy, but he'd punched you. He's been dead for a while. And all over the world, there are two people. I go to China or the, the jungles of Africa, wherever, they'll always ask me about two people, him and Kevin Coleman. I call them the Pentecostal Popes. And they always ask, "Did he really punch people?" We'll get to it, but he didn't punch in every service, but he punched enough people. It became part of his legacy. Always think, if you're the guy next in the prayer line, if he punches the guy in front of you, and he walks over here, "What's up?" "I'm fine. I've been healed." "But five minutes ago, I don't need nothing." Think about the guy next to the prayer line. If you just knock this guy out, so he was in a Salvation Army meeting in the balcony, and two people got saved that day when the sister of the famous Gypsy Smith was preaching. Ever heard of Gypsy Rodney Smith? Great preacher. He was a Gypsy, and God called and became like a Billy Graham at the time. And his sister was preaching. Him, a young lady got saved. And Wiggles within the balcony here, the Lord said, "That's your girl. That man, that's gonna be your wife." She walks down, comes up, and takes possession. As the family told me, the Wigglesworth family tells the story of how Smith and Polly, his wife, got together. She got saved in the Salvation Army meeting, didn't know much about Christians. Meet Smith on that moment in that, in that, that afternoon service. He walks up and says, "I'm supposed to marry you, and you're supposed to be my wife." She thought to herself, "I've just become a Christian, so I don't know for sure how this all works here, but it's kind of forward." But they got married and had a beautiful life together. She became a preacher, and he could up. Oh, here's what, here's a family. Here's Polly, his wife, his family. And one of his little boys would die. He'd be known for raising the dead, but he'd have a child of his own that would die. Remember, you can be called to preach and have an anointing to do great things, but you have to live it like everybody else lives it privately. And you're faced with the same challenges that everybody faces. Remember, you're not exempt because you're famous. You're not exempt because you're anointed to do some phenomenal things. You have to go put your spiritual pants on like everybody else does too. You got to pray in the spirit. You got to bind them. You're going to confess the word. You're going to worship about it and go to church. What's wrong with you people? What's wrong with Christians? I don't want to go to church. That's the devil talking to you. Get your lazy butt up and go to church. I'll watch it online. No, I had a nice message, but it's left. So she is a rambunctious preacher and good at it, and he can't speak. And so he would get up to talk and get so embarrassed and walk off the stage. And finally, he would never do in the help, in the altar, a little bit, or do the children's thing because he could not talk. She was the, the loud person. When she got saved and got on fire, she was a rooter, tutor preacher, and went at it. And he backslid. The only thing bad about Wigglesworth's life story that you can say, ah, is this: he backslid early in his life because he got busy being a plumber. And his wife is going to help him not be backslid no more. They got a little bit of fighting. She pushed her out the back door of the house and locks the door. Real Christian. She laughs all the way around the front, comes back in the front door, goes, "You forgot to lock the front door." And it was so stupid, and it was so funny, they laughed against your right, and he repents and comes back into his Christian life. Isn't that nice? He hears about some healing people. He hears about these tongue people and finds his way to an early Pentecostal group in England.

Now, hold that story because I'm a history, and I have to tell you some others just for a moment. There was a man from Norway, a Baptist, who was sent by the Baptists to America to get money to finish a big Baptist Church. His name was T.B. Barrett. So he comes to America to raise money to build the church in Norway. And he gets to Azusa Street somehow, gets the Holy Ghost, and he sent the telegram back to the Baptist group, "I'm coming home. I've got it." They think he's got the money. He's got the Holy Ghost. All right. So we, we got a problem about to happen. And so he comes back to Norway. And there are, "How much money did you get?" "It was a short trip. You must have really got a lot of money fast." "Hallelujah!" He goes, "I don't have the money, but I got it. Ty, got it." And, and they didn't like it. And they kicked him out. But when you're full of the Holy Ghost, being kicked out don't feel like being kicked out. It feels like freedom to make how the Holy Ghost makes weird things feel okay. So he starts spreading Pentecost. He goes over to Sweden, talks to another minister named Louis Petros, and he gets the Holy Ghost and builds the world's biggest Pentecostal church that time, over 5,000 people. And he makes his way to Great Britain to Alexander Bodies, a little church in Sutherlands, and the Holy Ghost falls there and begins to spread a little bit. Wigglesworth goes to one of the meetings. He likes the healing part, but not sure about the tongues part. But like Kenneth Hagin always said, "If you play around a slippery bank long enough, you'll fall on in." So Wigglesworth fell on in and got, he got the Holy Ghost. Well, his wife was about to have a surprise. That little Salvation Army Church might have a surprise too. He comes back. "Can I preach on Sunday?" "Sure." Because he wouldn't preach because he was stuttering, but his wife was in shock, but were happy that he wanted to at least testify or something. He gets up. They say to start preaching, and he stutters and stammers for the first bit, terribly. And the power of the Holy Spirit comes upon him afresh and fixes his tongue for life. He goes from a stuttering British, uh, bold-spoken person. His wife is sitting on the back rows. The story goes, and she makes her ruckus to the whole service. Goes, "Who is that up there? That's not my Smith. Who is that? What happened to him?" And she, she could not contain her volume or her, or her like. She didn't start. Oh, wow. And when their service over, they say she ran from the back row all the way up on this, "Whatever you got, I want it." And she became the tongue talker too. So you got Mr. Mrs. Tongue. [Music] They even start a mission called the Bowling Street Mission in Bradbury that's still there today. The Vegas worth of sentence actually runs the church for Wigglesworth built his church many years ago. So if you go to England, you go to Bradford, go to church on Sunday with the Liquors family in the Wigglesworth Church. It's great to have a living church, not a historical, but a living church that's doing the work of Christ. And so he begins his ministry, and people get healed, and, and everything is nice and beautiful, a typical early Pentecostal family. But then Wigglesworth's wife dies when he's about 51 years old. It's not kind of the thing you think should happen to a guy like this. They bury her, and he goes home to 70 Victor Road, sits in the parlor where we call the living room, and he's grieving over the loss of his wife. And across the room is his desk, and on his desk, about a four to five inch stack of envelopes, and they were invitations for him to preach all over the world. And at 51 years of age, at the death of his wife, the Wigglesworth that you and I talk about is born. You're not 50 and finished. You're 50 and about to get restarted. All right, everybody 50 years old and older, stand up. If you're 50 years old and older, stand up. 50 plus. 50 plus. Everybody else stay seated. All right, now I want you to look at me. Everybody, take your two eyes and look at me. You're never going to retire. You're going to live and preach the gospel all the days of your life. Hey, so don't look to these retiring, backslidden preachers. Look to a Wigglesworth who got up at 51 and took over the Pentecostal world. You may be seated. You're never 50 and finished. Tell those liars to go to your house. And I'll come back. He quit his crying, right, his tears, and said, "Yes." He was the man that brought Pentecost to New Zealand, Australia. He would go down into South Africa and come to your country of mine over eight times in his life. He was known as the Apostle of Faith. One time, when he was on a boat going to Australia, they stopped by Sri Lanka, and they heard that the man was on the boat, and the people on the island came to the boat and began to scream and chant, "There was a wake us worse. He come to come down and preach to us." If they didn't plan to preach it, you know there's any Pentecostal people there. He went to their little church, and it was packed down the street. He preached for hours. It's time for the boat to leave because you can't leave without praying for the sick. And they line the street too, like if you walk in the middle, and he go praying for the sick, and he goes to the boat. That's Wigglesworth.

Now, he, he was a very interesting personality. He, um, prayed for people very undelicately. They asked him one time, "Why do you hit people?" He goes, "I don't hit people. I hit the devil. They just get in the way." He raised, as far as I can tell from our historians and our connections, over 23 people from the dead that we know about. That we know about. The first person he raised from the dead was a man named Lazarus. Isn't that kind of interesting? You want to hear the story? He invited him to come and pray for the guy because he was very sick and close to death. But he didn't make it there before he died. When he got there, he was dead in the, in the bedroom. The mom, the wife, and the kids are all hell. Wiggles walks in. "Where is he?" She goes, "He's dead." He said, "I didn't ask how he was. Asked where he was." Kind of abrupt. And she walking down the hallway and opened the bedroom door, and he said, "There, you can't come in. You're full of unbelief. Stay out here." She goes, "Why? You've been crying for an hour." "That's unbelief. Stay out here and shut the door in her face." Turns around to the dead man with a sheet over his head, goes over and pulls a sheet off of him, gets him up. Now, he's a big, he's a strong man. He's a plumber. And takes a guy, you know those old British nightgowns they used to wear, you know, shut them against the law. And says, "Live!" He falls down dead at the door. Now, that's when you all say, "I'm sorry, I don't have the faith for this." He picks him up a second time and pushes him against the wall and says, "Live!" Falls down dead again. That's when you leave town and never come back. He picks him up a third time and does the same thing. "I command you to live!" and pushes them against the wall. He falls down, and his eyes pop over. Now, my brain says, "You've been knocking him up and down for us. Eyes are going to follow." But eventually, his eyes pop flop open, and he called, and he's back to life. And he goes, "I need to get your dress. Your family thinks you're dead." So he helps dress the man that was dead five minutes ago, gets his pants on, his shoes, his shirt and tie, and everything, walks him down the hallway and says, "It's not dead no more," and walks out the door. That's Brother Wigglesburg.

The most unusual sermon you've ever preached. He screamed for 12 minutes. "Only believe. Only believe." For 12 minutes, he said those two words. Ended the prayer line. Welcome to Wigglesworth. He was in the great church in San Francisco called Glad Tidings. 700 and some people saw this happen. They'd had the prayer. He would have a prayer line, and he would walk in front of you, and he would, with a little bit of an accident, "What's up? I mean, tell me what's wrong with you." "What's up?" "My head, dumb, working my beard." And then he prayed for you normally like you would pray for people. He was going down the prayer line, and they brought a guy on a stretcher with cancer, the stomach that was swollen. The nurse or the doctor had come. They'd asked him, the patient, "What do you want? Because you're going to be dead in about a day." "So I want to go to the Wiggles meeting before I die." So they thought they were bringing him to get the last rites. So Wiggles first comes in front and goes, "What's up?" And the doctor jumped up, "Oh, he's about to die. Hey, you might want to get him ready to meet the other side." Because I didn't ask you. I asked him. "Sit out. You gotta know who you're praying for. Who's in charge?" He said, "Sir, what's up? What do you want?" "Going to be healed." He took this, his big former fist, in front of 700 people, and the doctor and the nurse, BAM! And hit him in the stomach with a full force. The guy flops like he killed him. The doctor screaming, "You have killed him!" "Where the ghost goes, no, yes, no, yeah." They have an argument there in the prayer line. Now, I always thought, if he were the next person in the prayer line, what would you do? You just saw him punch this cancer person, and you think he's dead. The doctor him screaming, and he comes, "What's up?" "Nothing." This is not Catherine Coleman. This is Wigglesworth. All right. And he goes and prays for, you know, four or five more people or so. And all of a sudden, the crowds like a football stadium screams when you make a, a goal or a, uh, all right, they start because he's jumped up off the stretcher, his stomach is flat, and he's dancing behind Wigglesworth, totally healed in a hospital gown. You know, I guess if you were done, you don't care who sees the rest of it. You're glad to be alive. That's Wigglesworth. But his daughter was deaf in one ear. How do you like that? The great healer.

Went to Australia. Australians are interesting. There's Brother Wigglesworth and his daughter. And I'll show, there's some Aussies here. You're all ex-cons, and that's why your sense of humor has a little bite to it. Serious. And so Wiggles wrote this preaching, and when he had to talk to his daughter, so now he had to, so the vibrations would get her, and she'd turn her little thing up, but she could hear. What Australians have no problem talking to you from the audience while you're on stage preaching. And he somehow, so he goes, "If you're such a great faith man, what's wrong with your daughter?" He goes, "Well, she has no faith. That's what's wrong with her. Sit down and shut up." Welcome to Wigglesworth. So you like him because he's dead. If he was preaching tonight, you'd be nervous because you don't know what he's going to say or what he might do. You would come out of a morbid curiosity. Who's he going to hit? Like all these great guys, because they're dead, would you be their friend? If they were alive, would you support them with your money and your attendance to their meetings? It's fun to laugh tonight when these stories are 40 and 50 and 60 years old. How many of you made fun of Benny when he's dead? 50 years after he's dead, he'll be loved, admired, and be thanked by future generations. But the man coming tonight, no matter what has been said about him, he's done a good job, and we should honor him and love him. Walk with him while he's alive.

I was friends with another one named Morris Cirillo. Ever heard of Maurice? I call him the Godfather of Ministry. He has the neck and the voice for that. I love him. He was very kind to me when I first started. He brought me to Africa and let me preach my first 75,000 person crowd. He says, "Oh, come with me. The Crusade." He didn't tell me I was going to be the preacher. He told me that five minutes before he introduced me. So you, you either sink or swim. He doesn't train you how to swim. He just throws you in the pool and swim. That's how he trains you. And, um, I was with him in some place of the world, and he goes, "Don't send me flowers when I'm dead. I can't see them or smell them." So I sent him flowers while he was alive. He's dead now. No more flowers, no more funeral flowers. Let's love these people while they're alive. Would you please love them? Pray for them. Give to them. Stand with them. Even when there's something that doesn't go right, be their friend. Be their friend. We have one of the greatest healing evangelists of our time here in a few hours. He talks funny. He's skinny. He's the runt of his family. The little skinny weird guy in the family. All the boys are crazy, but he's the weirdest one. I know him. I can say that. Love them all. I wanted the manner that he got. All I got was the dress. You don't know what I'm talking about, do you? The thing you'll see tonight possibly is a four-generational mantle that began with Mother Etter, that came and fell upon Sister McPherson, and hit the redhead woman named Catherine Coleman, that fell upon a little air boy named Benny Hinn. They all wear white, great healing crowds, great. They all have marriage problems and heart issues. When you have a man, so you've got to figure out how it works. You know how to fix it before it starts causing problems for you, or how the devil fights. I'll say it that way. Benny and his wife separated, but they remarried, reversing that curse. We, we should honor that. We should honor that. Every one of those people that carried that mantle has been divorced. Eder was divorced. Amy was divorced twice. Catherine was divorced once. Benny, but he remarried and fixed it. One for him. Okay. Now, I don't know if he likes this or not, but I have the mic, so I'm talking. So you have to take it. When a mantle comes to you, you have to understand how it works, and you can learn about it by who carried it last, how it functions, how it flows, how it moves, and how the devil fights it, because it's done exactly the same way every single time. We have tonight, my friend, your friend, for some reason, God picked him. I wanted it. I actually met Catherine Coleman. He never met Sugar Hand. He is sorry. I touched her. She touched me. She prayed for me. I got nothing. He saw her from the balcony and got everything. I have her clothes. I have her credit cards. See, that's what I do for event. I collect Pentecostal history. I don't play golf in weird pants. I go find old people that have stuff. So when I'm dead, you'll see my suits, my ties, my jeans, my shirts, and dresses. I did not wear them. These are dresses from these famous preachers. If having stuff caused you to have the anointing that I should float on air, I have Billy Sunday's baseball bat, Catherine Coleman's shoes, Amy Billy Sunday. I have clothes, shoes, letters, books. I have a brick from Amy's house when they tore it down. I got it. I got everything you can think of, all in my possession, and it does nothing for my anointing. I thought if I can't have that Coleman mantle, at least I'll be friends with a guy that has it. Now, I said all that kind of just, but you'll hear the soundness of what I'm talking about. I've got a few minutes left. I want us tonight to come in with the greatest expectation to God for the gift that he sent into us. I want us to receive, not try to perceive problems or perceive deeper things. Just shut up and come expecting, expecting that the gift that God sends us tonight will give to us that which God has for all of us corporately and individually. And when we leave, and he leaves, this conference is over, and 10 years from now, remember, if you make fun of the one that God used to bless you, you lose the blessing. Don't ever make fun of how your blessing came to you. Don't despise the gift that God sends to you for that blessing to come to your life at your church. If you make fun of it, if you despise it, it will start shrinking and fading from your life. Here and be aware. Don't ever, ever, ever, ever. You can just stay quiet and a fake smile. Don't touch it. Don't touch it. We have come unto us the daughter of one of the greatest teachers in modern history. Kenneth Copeland's daughter is coming. The next generational leaders of that great ministry. She's not going to be like Benny. She don't have any anointing or Catherine's mantle. She comes from the Copeland camp. I want to address this here today. Today, I love Kenneth Copeland. I think he's wonderful. And I like the one that trained him, called Kenneth Hagin. Now, notice the clap ratio in the room as I say these names, because some of you have believed the line, accusational rumors against the man and woman of God. Those faith people. Thank God they're not doubt people. Hear me, pastors, you better be glad the faith people. Can you still be broke, stuck in some dippy church, listening to some dumb denominational doctrine that tells you can be part happy? I mean, folks, this week you've got some amazing. We've got John sitting here on the front row, your brother Bill, you got Benny with all the hair, Benny, and you've got the Copeland Ministry coming in an environment to give the next generation a message. And if nothing else, get what they carry live there, which flies around the room, get some of it and put it inside. Well, I think they're in a cult, and I think you're stupid. I'm writing the General's book on the word of faith preachers. Will Barry Wigglesworth in a minute. Okay, just hang on. I've interviewed all of them before they died. I knew all of them practically. And people get mad at these people. Them, you don't even know them. Some of you have never even been into one of their meetings. You just keep repeating the Debbie pastor's prejudice again. So who they don't even like. Like I don't like prosperity. Well, then be broke and be happy. I mean, you get mad at prosperity preachers. Well, follow the dead preachers and live happily ever after, because that's what most of your pastored by is dead poverty preachers, and that's why all of you don't have a new car, and your car runs by faith and not petrol. You don't go on a vacation that your kids even want to go on. I don't believe in prosperity, and it shows. Notice the clap ratio. It's getting smaller. Fred Price, his TV and refrigerator and sofa was being repossessed. He was so broke, he had nothing. The only rich preacher in the word of faith movement was a guy named Norman Hayes, that was a billionaire, a millionaire from the Baptist Church. Norman, of all people, if you know Brother Norman, sheesh. He made five thousand dollars a week, he and his wife, many, many years ago in the 60s. He had a car for Monday, a car for Tuesday, a car for Wednesday, a car for every day of the week. He goes, "After that, what do you do?" He goes, "I go down to the bank and just look at my money." He was the only faith preacher of the founding crew that was rich. He was driving one day from Indianapolis, from Columbus to Indianapolis, and Jesus came in his car. And to quote Norman, and Jesus killed me, even how he talks. For the time he got home, Norman had become a different man and a different Christian. He, he walked through the front door of his house. His wife, "What's wrong with you?" And he sits down to tell her, and she tells him, "I'm going to leave you." And voices him. She goes, "Norman, you don't do anything half-hearted, and I didn't marry you to be a preacher's wife. I like the social life." Social life. On the day of his visitation, his wife left him. But he kept following Jesus. Hagen, if you look at him in the time he started in the voice of heat in the 1950s, his crowd may be 30 people. 30 people because he wasn't a, he's an evangelist, really. He was a teacher. That, that movement had not come yet, but he was faithful. Charles Capps, with a farmer next to the Dairy Queen restaurant. These are your faith preachers, and they're called the prosperity preachers. And they would say, "Yes, they discovered a verse that you don't have in your Bible. When you tithe, heaven opens." And they finally go, "Wow." And heaven began to rain down blessings. They discovered when you sow a seed, something happens. They were just as surprised as you are when it happens the first time. Well, they get into all the material things. Now, let me tell you why that happened. In the beginning, the prosperity message, when you've never had anything, nothing. Your TV is being repossessed because you can't pay the note. Your car, you watch being repossessed from the front window of your house, and you grew up with nothing. And were the first come in your life, you have a car that's paid for. You're going to talk about it. For the first time in life, your watch is more than five dollars. You've never had that before. When you never had them for the first time, you're going to have a little more, talk about it a little more, excited about it. And the Pentecostal people, which are you, were the poorest of the poorest Christians. We were dirt poor people. All of our people were poor. Now, where we accused with the prosperity people, what a great new label. I like the new label. I know these guys. I know how much they were when they died. When Amy died, she had ten thousand dollars to her name. Not much money. That's how rich she was. Ten thousand to an eight. They didn't have anything. And they begin to read the Bible, and, and it worked. For the first time, Pentecostals were working themselves to death in the workplace. Could take a tithe of their money and loved Jesus with it, but also realize it does something. Well, you're greedy. You cannot be greedy if you're a tither and a giver of offerings. I won't ever bit of the prosperity anointing. I can get off the cope and people. I can get. If you don't want it, then send your package to my house. Now, Father, help us. All right. Is there, is there anything else I should not touch? I should touch in this service? Maybe we should talk about sex next. How's that? So keep your pants on, boys. Please. Let me, let me finish my money talk. Jesus said, "When you prosper, you're going to get persecuted." All right. So let's just believe Jesus. So if you believe in tithing and being blessed and all that principle, you'll get persecuted. Just go and accept it and ignore it. You have to go broken, no persecution. Loaded with persecution. Which one do I want? Michael Jackson could buy a chimpanzee and put a diaper on it and walk through them all, and nobody got bad. Let a pastor get a new car, and we'll kill him. You see something wrong here? And then we had these prophecies, the wealth transfer to who? Who can God give wealth to? When you think like this, now Canada, I like you, but I'll always be rude to you. I'm going to be blunt, honest. I'm not British or money will be. I'm brutal, American, and I'm Pentecostal on top of that. So that's just very loud. It's time that the Canadian church starts prospering and paying for your own Revival. It's time that you do it yourself and quit being mad at people that you secretly want to be like. Amen. Still love me. I need a bear. What goes worth? All right.

Smith traveled for the rest of your life. I don't know, about 87 years of age. He died at a funeral of a friend. How you like that? You're going to a friend's zone, and you die too. That's how he died. On its way up into the church where the funeral was being held, a lady that was mad at him caught him and verbally went at him with great words that lashed his heart. Some believe that he died of a broken heart because of that incident. I don't know, but it's sad that one of the last things that happened to him on the earth was that a young man named Lester Summerall, who had traveled with a, or the great Pentecostal leaders called Howard Carter, had heard about Wigglesworth and all the unusual acts that he would do and wanted to see what it was worth for himself. And so he, um, winds up, I mean, asked to speak at Wigglesworth's Easter Conference. Oh, yes, I'll go. He goes and does the afternoon session and preaching, very excited about his travel. Howard Carter and all the missionary Journeys. Dr. Samuel told me, he goes, "And I was preaching the latest, real good and exciting." Notice I felt this hand on my shoulder. It was Smith had stood up from his seat and come over to him and said, "The Holy Ghost finished 15 minutes ago. What are you going to quit?" And he goes, "Right now." They walk off. And Wiggles where I said to him, "I live at 70 Victor Road in Bradford. Come and visit me when you won't." And that was it. Microsoft, you know, pleasantly, but, you know, nice. He goes to London, and he's like, you know, Wigglesworth asked me to come. I think I'm going to go see. He put on his little Charlie Chaplin bowl hat, you know, how they look back in those days, and they haven't run the newspaper under his arm, and got on the train at Victoria Station and went to Bradford. Got there mid-morning, walk down the road and knocked on the door with a big old door knocker. We're gonna land opened the door, and he filled the whole door frame because he was a tall, big man. Cimarron goes, um, "Good morning. How are you?" Okay. He goes, "I don't ask for Wigglesworth how he is. I tell him how he is. I don't know lies under my, in my house." Well, I started your army newspaper. Those are lies. Excuse me. He took the newspaper, went down and put in the bushes. So you can come in now. He walks inside of his house and sits in the parlor. Wilbur goes, "Let me read you some scripture." He read the Bible for an hour. Said, "Let's pray." We're going to run as we prayed for 30 minutes. Goes, "Let me reach the more."

Bible to you all morning with scripture in prayer, scripture and prayer until lunch was ready. They went to lunch there in the house where it was worth finished first.

"She said, 'I'm tired. I'm gonna take a nap. Come back if you want to.'" Walks off and leaves somewhere up the table by himself, eating with the daughter. He goes, "That's the weirdest morning I've spent with anybody in my life. I, I don't think I'm going to come back." Get on the train back to London, debating all that in his head, but he discovered something in him that was not there before. He said, "I liked it."

I went back again. I kept going back and back again, and we had such tremendously fellowship. Hitler was raging on the continent of Europe. The Battle of Britain was just in the horizon. The British government had sent letters to all the foreigners, they must leave England now because they didn't have to take care of them and their people during the war.

He made his last visit to Orr's house at 70 Victor Road. Who walks in the door? He says, "Brother Wigglesworth, I, I have to be leaving. I won't see you for a long time." And showed him the letter from the British government. He said, "Neil here." And the abrupt way that Wigglesworth would talk at times, you didn't say no, you just did it. He said, "I knelt on my knees before him." He grabbed his shoulders and began to pray, and he cried the tears off of Wigglesworth's face, dropped on the forehead. The young man named Summerhall and blessed him and asked the God of Heaven to take his faith that he had in him and give it to this young man. And the mantle Smith Wigglesworth passed to a young man named Lester Summerall. If you knew Lester Summerall, you sometimes saw Wigglesworth's disposition, sometimes you couldn't tell if it was Lester or Smith, but they were so close alike. The authority in that man, mantles dormant and passed, are about to come alive again. They're about to make a re-entry into the Earth.

There was a young German. I'm trying to close, but I can't find the door. Sorry. A young man named Bunkie had just finished Bible School in Wales. He's on his way home this night, and he hadn't had time to visit London in the way that he wanted to. So he had some time, and he goes to London a day early and gets the Big Red Bus, as we call it today. That on the bus and off the bus and rides around London. And he gets tired of sitting on the bus and just gets off at a random stop and walks down all those side roads in London. And he's walking down the road, he sees on a mailbox the name Jeffries. Um, at this time, the two greatest preachers in England was Wigglesworth and George Jeffries, the Apostle of faith and the Apostle of healing. He said, "I wonder if that's the famous evangelist." And opens the lady opens the door. He goes, "This is the home of the healing preacher, George Jeffries." The famous preacher? Yes. Is he here? Yes. Can I sing? No. And there comes a booming voice down the staircase of that house. The old famous healing preacher, George Jeffries. He's, he has more notable miracles than Smith. Does everybody have a greater healing gift than Smith? You want to be honest. He says, "Let him in." So push the mean lady aside and walk through. Sometimes you'll get through the mean crowd to get to the right crowd. And as a young man would not knowing what to say, he says, "Too much. Oh, I read your books." "Why don't you kneel down here?" And the old man Jeffries takes his hands, puts it on a young donkey and prays that what he has been another generation and give it to him. The words that he prayed, the young guy didn't understand. Prayed the prayer. Maryman took his jacket off, leaves the house of George Jeffries and gets on the bus and makes his way home to Germany.

He gets to Germany, and Bunkie's dad picks him up at the train station. He says, "I just heard tonight George Jeffries died." "No, no, no. I saw him. I was in his house. He prayed for me." He got it within six hours of departure. There are things that God wants to give you. There are anointings that have been dormant for decades that God wants us to live again. In Canada and in my country, there are some of you tonight. He's been trying to get your attention so that the heritage of your family, the gift that was granted a while back, could start to live again. The great Bunkie that you talk about, could you seek him? If you know Mr. Jeffries, you see him. Double in Mr. Bunkie. A mantle was passed, almost went to the grave, but found the heart six hours before departure, and it lived to its last crusade. Was over a million and a half people, the largest crusade crowd in world history. This is things that God wants to do today. Doubling, doubling, doubling, doubling these anointings. When you, when you read the stories of faith, hear me talk. I tell you the stories the way I do so that you can see yourself in them. There are anointings that need to come alive and in this country. But you've listened to dead denominations. Religious principalities have talked you out of your blessing after the impartation that's already in your belly, but it's not living because you're not given any attention. I'm here this afternoon and say, give it his attention. Put prayer back on it. Water with your tears, and let's see what that gift will do in our time. Let's see what we can accomplish.

Father, I thank you for this afternoon. I thank you that this day and hour should not fade from our heart or our mind. We live in a moment, God, that we recognize that is very, very significant and pivotal at this time. It doesn't matter where you come from. In God's eyes, it doesn't matter what you've done that He's forgiven. It's forgotten. But it's calling voice, it's coming again to a new generation who will work for me, who will speak for me, who will fight for me, who will build for me, who will work for the Lord God Almighty. God hears no today more than he hears yes. But let this time and this crowd be a yes that God hears strong and loud today. God, we come to you and we say yes to this time. We say whatever you want us to do, whatever you want us to do, it, we shall do it. We shall do without regret, without complaints, and if need be, will do it alone. We're willing to walk alone to fulfill the call that you've given us. I pray for you today that the gift that's inside of you, I commend it to be stirred and to come into this Earth for it to move inside of you. And I command the wrong people to get out of your life in Jesus name. Wrong people get out, get out, get out of their lives, get out of their churches, get off their boards, get out of their offices. Ouch! In Jesus name. And I pray that the right people shall come into your life, come into your ministries. I pray that for your children and your grandchildren. Wrong people out, right people in. And Father, we all have anointings. You've given us many have impartations that you've granted us, but there are some who you will grant a mantle to. And for that special group of people, I pray that they'll not miss their time with that special thing. Let new churches be born in this country. Let new leaders take pivotal positions in the spiritual and the natural places in this country. Let the spirit of the fear of man be removed from the body of Christ and country, and that boldness like a lion be upon us. I pray today that God blesses you and restores your understanding of your call, your gift, and your placement.

Look at me. 95% of all the calls that God gives has not one ounce of fame attached to it. I say it again, 95% of all the calls that God gives to mankind does not have what else thing attached to it. Will you obey Him if that's the way it is for you? Will you go to the odd places that nobody else wants to go and live your life, and when you die, no one knows your name? But because you obeyed, when you arrive into heaven, it's like Billy Graham showing up. Can you live like that, young man? Can you go to go to places that nobody wants us want somebody to go to and give your life for those people? You can be richer someplace else. You can be famous someplace else. But will you just go where He wants you to go and do what He wants you to do and be happy about it? Compete with none, just to obey the call. One day you'll meet Jesus face to face for the very first time. For the very first time, it will not be envisioned, won't be in a dream. You will see Him face to face for the very first time. What are you going to say? What are your first words going to be when you see Him? "I can't believe I made it. Where's my house?" That would be some people's response. But for somebody like us, "I tried. I tried. I did the best that I knew. I hope, I hope it was good enough." That's the kind of thing you have to think about today. I live my life for that moment. One day I'm going to see Jesus face to face for the very first time. For the very first time, my life is done. I cannot go back and repeat or redo. And you've seen for the very first time. What are you going to say? What are you going to say? "I tried. I did the best I know." Would you please live like that? Live like that. Give everything. Give everything and hold nothing back. If you lose your friends, so be it. Live for Jesus. Live for Jesus. Live for Jesus. This may be the last hour of the Earth. We may be the last voice on the planet before it ends. We're so close. It's very possible we're it. So close, so close, so close.

Father, thank you for this meeting, this weekend. Thank you for bringing these special gifts together to make this deposit in this people, in this nation. And we vow to give you all the glory, all the honor for all that shall happen this weekend. And let a new generation of generals rise, Canada and America, let them rise. We pray in Jesus name. And everybody said, amen. Amen. Wow. I laughed, I cried, I was touched. How many were touched by this afternoon's message? Hey, not much to say about Pastor Benny tonight. I think Roberts did an incredible job sharing the value of coming and being here. And show again, please do not bring any drinks other than water into the auditorium, and don't leave any bags behind to save your seats. We're not saving seats, so come on time. VIPs in at six, general admission at 6:15. You don't want to miss it. It's going to be good. Other than that, Saints, have fun. Go and enjoy your dinner, get some rest, freshen up, and we'll see you all soon.