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Well, hello America. Welcome to the Glen Beck program. We have a lot on our plate. Yesterday, as I was watching all of the news, there is a ton going on with Congress, uh, with corruption, with the Senate, with the Senate, I guess. I don't know. Are they dressing as Easter Bunnies and looking for eggs? Is that why they need the time off with everything that's going on with the president, uh, and the war?
I have to spend some time today talking about Alexander Dugan. And if you don't know who Alexander Dugan is, don't worry. You're not alone. You're not alone. Um, but uh, we need to talk about him. If you've been a longtime listener of this program, I mean, really long. I think I've been talking about this guy since the '90s. Um, you, you, you may know a little bit about him, but his days are starting to of real power are starting to coalesce right now. And I, I need you to understand who he is so you can understand your world a little bit better, including that world where you're like, "Hey, what happened to our, what happened to our podcasters? What happened to people on our side?" This might explain some of it. I'll give that to you here in just a second.
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Okay, here's what I posted yesterday in response to Alexander Dugan. I have warned you about this man literally since the late 1990s. He is crazy, evil, a Rasputin figure that believes the entire world needs to be washed in blood, just as the Shia 12vers in Iran believe. He just thinks Russia will survive. Ha! Islamists will eat all of us if we don't unite. This can very well turn into the final battle, as this is what all of these people want. Pray for the republic. Dismiss him at your own peril. His puppets are in our media, edu, mosques, and churches.
So, I'm not going to convince everybody here. If you don't think that China is influencing our media and our universities, you probably don't believe Russia is either. Or that Iran Shia 12 is actually meant to wash the world in blood, or that Hamas raped and killed women on, you know, uh, on October 7th. And if you don't believe that, you also must believe that, you know, money and sleepers from Iran, you know, are here plotting and planning against us. If you don't believe any of those things, I'm not going to convince you about one guy in Russia who most people have never even heard of, heard of, is a threat to us. And if you don't believe any of that stuff, I'm not going to try to convince you. It's clear this story, maybe this program is not for you. But for those who do not wish to push their head in the sand, let me begin here.
Who is Alexander Dugan? And what did he say to make me say that yesterday online? Most Americans have never read any of his scholarly books. Few could summarize his worldview because again, most have never even read him. A lot of people in the country will have read him and they'll grab bits and pieces from sometimes his favorite podcasters, um, and and they'll think, "Wow, you know, this guy's really on the right path." But with Dugan and his acolytes, you have to be extraordinarily careful because the surface may seem like, "Oh my gosh, look at that. That's just a smooth river there." But the undertow will drag you down, beat you to death, and leave your lifeless body on the rocks near the shoreline in no time.
Now, with that said, just because nobody really knows him or his ideas, that doesn't mean his ideas aren't moving, because they are. Dugan is a political thinker, but not just a political thinker. He is a guy who is obsessed with civilizational conflict. He believes liberal democracy, individual liberty, and Western values are not just wrong, but all must be destroyed. At the center of his philosophy is something that I think is deeply unsettling: the belief that our current world order over the entire world must collapse violently so something older and darker, more authoritarian can rise in its place. This is a guy who some would say is Putin's brain. That's in dispute. Don't know if that's true or not, but he is, um, somebody with incredible global reach now. He wants to return to a pre-modern order. And when I say modern, pre-modern, I don't mean before there were airplanes. This is a world not of free individuals, but of empires and blood and soil and destiny. And he doesn't fear chaos. He welcomes it because in his framework, chaos is not the enemy. It is the main tool.
His core belief really is not complicated. He believes that the modern Western world, when I say that again, don't think before the Wright brothers, think of everything built since the Enlightenment. He believes everything since the Enlightenment, including the Enlightenment, is a mistake. He believes that individual liberty, human rights, equality before the law, these are not, in his view, universal or self-evident truths. Throw out the idea that all men are created equal. Throw it out. He believes these are all illusions, corruptions, and weaknesses that have hollowed out civilization.
So what replaces them? Well, he's argued openly for what he calls a fourth political theory. That's the name of one of his books. It moves beyond liberalism, beyond communism, beyond fascism. Oh, well, that kind of sounds great. Beyond fascism. Sounds academic or even sometimes worth exploring in this age, you know, where everything is breaking down, until you understand what it means. In his belief, he believes that freedom or true liberalism is a poison, and that communism tried to wipe it out, but it wasn't strong enough. Under Stalin, that fascism under Hitler. Hitler didn't go far enough. And so he has come up with a fourth way. His idea means removing the individual from the center of all political life and replacing him with the state, the civilization, the destiny of a people.
So when he says traditional, he doesn't mean, "Hey, we should all go to church on Sundays and have family dinners." That's not what he's talking about. And yet, that's the way he's interpreted. And he wants you to interpret him that way. Here's what he said in 2012 when he was a little more stealth. And people will hold their hang their whole entire support on things like this. Listen to this. See if it doesn't sound seductive. Quote, "We conservatives," he's not a conservative, by the way, "we conservatives want a strong, solid state. H we want order and a healthy family and positive values, the reinforce in reinforcement of the importance of religion and the church in society. We want patriotic radio and TV and patriotic experts, patriotic clubs. We want a media that expresses national interests." A lot of people will hear that and go, "Oh, well, he's just like me." No, he is not. He is not a conservative. And all of those things he's using to explain it do not last very long the way you think they do. Remember, he believes Hitler and Stalin did not go far enough. He means traditionalism as a return to the world before the Enlightenment. In other words, what we used to call the dark ages. Hierarchy, empire, power justified not by consent but by myth, by history, and force. Brutal force.
Yeah. But Glenn, he's just, he's just, it's just a book that he's written, a few books. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they're read, well, well read by some everywhere. Yeah. But it's still a book. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh, let's remember that that phrase "just a book" is what they said about Mein Kampf. Um, "just a book" also applies to the Bible and the Quran. In his book, Foundations of Geopolitics, he wrote plainly that Russia should use its intelligence services to destabilize the United States, to disrupt, to divide, and weaken from within. Do you think any of that is happening now? This is why they call him Putin's brain. Do you think any of that is happening now? Of course it is. He has been saying this since the '90s when it was absolutely impossible to believe that it was going to happen, and here it is. He has described the United States as the central enemy in a civilizational struggle. Oh, let me use another term, the Great Satan. Now, who else believes that we are the poison to the world? Are we fighting them anywhere? Are we fighting them in our streets, in our universities? Are they growing in our mosques and on our cities? Are they now Russian allies? Russian allies that call us the Great Satan. Of course they are. And they are uniting and they are looking for more people to be disenfranchised and to unite with them. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. They all believe he has framed global politics not as cooperation but as permanent conflict between rival worlds, chaos. He has unlimited writings and interviews, and he comes back over and over again to the same idea that struggle is not unfortunate. It's natural and necessary. Remember Mein Kampf. What does that translate to? My struggle. What is jihad? My struggle. Dugan is speaking directly to our struggle that must end in the destruction of the world.
Now, you can listen to this as a Westerner and say, "Glenn, that is out of your mind crazy." Nobody really. It's no crazier than the 12vers in Shia Islam. No more crazy than the people who are marching through our streets today saying we're going to burn the system down. And the reason why this is really dangerous is because this guy is super, super slick, and he wraps himself in religious language. He speaks of destiny, of a spiritual war, of a sacred struggle. He is not a Christian, although he aligns himself publicly with the Russian Orthodoxy. But if you really look at him, uh, no, his thinking is not rooted in any kind of Christian theology. None of it. None of it. He pulls from mysticism, uh, philosophy of man. He is, he is the stew that cooked up Hitler around the turn of the century, 30 years before Hitler was around. What you get will be something that sounds like faith, but is definitely not faith. Religion not as submission to God, but as a tool of power, identity, and mobilization. A philosophy which works as a religion, but preaches chaos, and the current world order has to collapse. He doesn't fear instability. He calls for it. He, he argues that geopolitical disorder should be introduced into the West. That, listen to this, internal division should be amplified, and that the system should be weakened in any way it can until it gives way.
Give me 60 seconds. I want you to ponder that just for a second, for 60 seconds, because I come back and give you some more context here.
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You to I want you to listen to those around you who are leading you down this new fourth political theory, and you don't even know. If you ever hear somebody talk about how great Sharia law is in the Middle East, and some of these great Middle Eastern countries, they have Sharia law. Or these great countries run by dictators. They're clean. The streets are clean. Everything is in order. People are proud of their civilization. Yeah, I bet they are. I bet they are. And that's what happens when you have absolute law and you have no freedom. Oh, they've got lots of freedom. Do they? Do they? Look at the remedy is not to take on the chains of authoritarianism or Sharia law. It is to fix ourselves. But some of our friends actually believe that we have, we're gone. We're too far gone to save. And so let's just let it go and find a new political idea. And Dugan is there to pitch the utopia. I for those I want you to really listen to me. Do you actually think many of our friends just started thinking like this overnight and are now in lockstep out of nowhere? Some of them are because they don't know. Some of them are very well educated. Some of them have read his work. Many have met with him. Some have worked with him, shared stages with him. And indeed, a few have even laundered his words with innocent-sounding interviews. Let me be super clear on this. Alexander Dugan and his ideas are a clear and present danger to our country, to your church. They are a clear and present danger to you and your children and your very soul. I have been warning about this guy for 30 years. He is very clever. His influence is global, and his first goal is to divide us. This is why I'm super clear on you must never play into that. I hate this person today, and so you must too. I hate this podcaster. That's why I'm not talking about podcasters by name because I don't care about them. I care about what is being taught, the principles that are being taught. You can, you can avoid this or you can look it in the face and destroy it. You. I ask you to share this information with your friends, but do not spread hatred of people, only the facts. Let others choose their own path. Do not throw your pearls in front of swine. Alert all those with eyes to see and ears to hear. If they cannot see it, they cannot hear it. Move on. But I promise you, you will not defeat this evil ideology with hatred. In fact, just the opposite. It needs your hatred. It feeds on your hatred. It needs it to divide and collapse us. Because in his framework, collapse is not failure. Collapse is the key. It's tradition or a transition. It's what is needed.
Now, there are claims that say that he is coordinating directly with Iranian clerics. I happen to believe them. That he's personally infiltrating Western institutions and churches and media ecosystems. I know this to be true. I've seen enough evidence. I've outlined them year after year in specials and show after show. I know them to be true. But they are things that I can't, I don't have my fingertips today, and claims that are not going to convince everybody. Okay? So, let's dismiss all of that. In his tweet yesterday, let's just deal with this. He is speaking to the Shia 12vers and indeed the entirety of Islam. This is real and observable. If he's, if he's only making deals, let me say this, his ideas align with other movements and regimes that also reject liberal democracy, that also frame the world in apocalyptic or civilizational terms, that also see the West as something that needs to be destroyed. And that alignment is enough to matter because ideas don't need formal alliances to spread. They move through agreement. So what is it? He said, because it's not confined to Russia. It's traveling. It's adapting. It's finding audiences. Sometimes on the far right, sometimes on the far left, but anywhere where there's hatred and disillusionment, where there's distrust of institutions and hunger for something more rooted and traditional, that is the gateway. But again, it's not about preserving tradition the way you would understand it. It's about replacing freedom with control, replacing truth with power, replacing faith with a kind of political mysticism that, that borrows religious language, but is it empty at its [music] core? This is a spiritual battle, and his teachings and his influence is the inversion of everything that built Western civilization. And the problem is the idea itself: to burn down the world to remake it. It is an antichrist view. It is the view of an antichrist style figure.
So what is it that he said yesterday that prompted this rant? Next.
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John Carmichael from Tucson, Arizona. If you've been watching Glenn for a long time, you know who Dugan is. Glenn has been warning us for years about him. [snorts] Indeed. I, I remember on, I was standing on a on a a studio TV studio in New York City back when we still had some studios over there. And that was when I, I don't know if Glenn had been talking about it before, but that was the first time I heard him talk about it. And, uh, I don't, I mean, everything we were talking about then, I think the one thing we did not anticipate is how many people on the right would suddenly spring up and start saying a lot of the things that he's saying, and also platforming him on, you know, multiple different, you know, uh, podcast networks, or showing up to similar, the same speeches, sometimes speeches that he even puts on. It's been kind of wild, but that has been the biggest and most shocking thing to me is that there are people on the right that are talking about it or seeming like they are in agreement with some of the things that Dugan says. And you can always, it's really difficult when you're when you're looking at Alexander Dugan, you just hear snippets of speeches because if you do that, this is why it's so dangerous. A lot of the stuff will sound appealing. It's designed to sound appealing to our audience. They'll talk about things you'll be very passionate about. They'll talk about immigration. They'll talk about family values. They'll talk about faith. They'll talk about all these things. And the, and the point, the entire point is to get the most amount of people on board with what he's talking about so he can introduce a lot of things that are, I mean, everything Glenn has been talking about, very, very dangerous. But I think the, the entrance into the right-wing podcast sphere and other personalities has been a, a gentle slide towards statism. That's, that's what I think it is. And that's actually why I did the George AI today specifically on statism. What the founders thought about statism. That's an hour podcast today, but it's well worth your time. But, um, uh, Jessica O'Brooksville said, "Russian Soviet conservative." Oh, uh, describing uh Alexander Dugan. So even describing him as a conservative, I think, is chameleonesque a little bit with Alexander Dugan because I don't think he's a conservative at all. I think he talks about conservative issues, but he has nothing at all to do with conservatism. So, he'll talk about faith. He'll talk about immigration. He'll talk about, you know, um, family values and things like that, but [snorts] I don't think he's a conservative at all. I, I actually want to put this, there's an article which this is so randomly crazy. Actually, let me show you. This is the tweet, uh, uh, producer BJ, throw this up, please. [snorts] Um, this is the tweet that Glenn was talking about from Dugan yesterday. So, "Enough with sectarian factions, fractions. All Shia should join the final battle where if you know the mystical side to Dugan and the religious side to Dugan, that's frightening, and also channeling 12 or Shia, doubly frightening. All real Muslims also, his unique chance to achieve the victory over the common enemy." So this came out, we saw this last night. I had just, this is some deep insider information. I was looking through news last night looking for prep and I found an article from 2024 from the uh RAIR Foundation where they had an interview with a man and they, this is the, this is the, I can put this in the chat so you can read this. "Infiltration Alert: Russia's Alexander Dugan's Sinister Plot to Destroy Trump's MAGA Movement." And it talks in here specifically what his strategy is all about, and it talks about sowing political divisions and getting basically to get the MAGA movement to jump on board with this multipolar world. And I, I need to go way further into this, but I'm going to put this in the chat so you can read it for yourself. It's going to sound very familiar. Anyway, back to Glenn. [music]
Welcome to the Glen Beck program. I want to bring uh Ricky and uh and Jason in on this conversation um about Alexander Dugan because, you know, Alexander Dugan, people have said though for the longest time, "Glenn, he's not really for the destruction. He's only writing this in a book." Because listen to what he's saying. He's saying, "We should get back to faith. We should get back to traditional values." And I've said, "Yeah, listen to what else he's saying." It's the same kind of people that would read Mein Kampf and say, "Well, he doesn't really mean that about the Jews. He just means we should be a strong Germany." Nope. Nope. He means it. And yesterday the mask came off. Yesterday. Yesterday he tweeted, quote, "Enough with sectarian fractions. All Shia should join the final battle. All real Muslims also, it is a unique chance to achieve the victory over the common enemy." Now, let's, let's look at this, shall we? Can we dissect this? Jason, you help me here?
>> Oh, yeah. "Enough with sectarian." He says fractions, but I think he means factions. What does that mean, Jason?
>> I think he's talking, he's asking both Sunni and Shia Muslims to come together for ultimate destruction, basically to join forces to fight against us.
>> "All Shia should join the final battle." He is calling on all Shia Muslims all over the world to join the final battle. What does he mean, Jason, by the final battle?
>> It's interesting. So, final battle can really only mean one thing, and that's what the 12ver. If you're a 12ver Shia, this is lighting off in your brain like crazy right now. But the final battle will be the legit final battle, Armageddon, that's going to wash the world in blood if you're a 12ver. So if you were a 12ver, this is them. This is, this is like a Christian saying, "We got to unite right now and get into this war because it, there will be a massive slaughter. It'll start the clock ticking and we'll have the seven years of tribulation and Jesus will come back." That's exactly what this language means. Okay? "All Shia should join the final battle. All real Muslims too. It's a unique chance to achieve the victory over the common enemy." Who's the common enemy? The Great Satan and the Little Satan. But make no mistake, forget about Little Satan. If you defeat Little Satan, but you don't do anything on Great Satan, it means nothing. The real target is us. Why is it that? How come? I wonder, you know, why we're not in, uh, the Book of Revelation? Why isn't America in the Book of Revelation? Maybe because we don't exist. Maybe because we slept. Maybe because we wouldn't take people seriously when they say these crazy things. Do you think the media would be all over if I got on the air and said, "We've got to join this battle right now. We've got to, we've got to get our arms. In fact, we need nuclear weapons. We need to launch nuclear weapons against the Islamic world and wash the Islamic world in blood because Jesus will come by, will come soon." Do you think they would pay attention to that? Of course they would, because they would say, "Glenn Beck is a crazy, crazy out-of-control religious zealot." And you know what? If I actually said and believed those things, I would be a dangerous religious zealot. Luckily, that's not what Christianity teaches. But if you are a 12ver, a Shia 12ver, or quite honestly, any of the crazy ass Muslims, you are, you believe this. And so the mask has come off. He is not, look, when he says, "I'm just a traditionalist," you know, and when people who are schlepping this online, and believe me, they are, when they are schlepping this online and in their podcasts, and when they're introducing you to new figures that kind of think like this, not exactly. They're not crazy. [laughter] I'm just asking questions. It's not crazy. It's just I believe in traditionalism. Believe me, this is the stuff they are selling you.
>> Can you help me square something? I remember when he released his book, The Great Awakening Versus the Great Reset. It was actually targeted towards the American heartland, heartland rather.
>> Interesting.
>> Um, people who were anti-globalist, people who believed in traditional values, the family, they were patriots. So, how in the heck is this man who's been trying to court this base of our population? How does he do it when he says he wants to annihilate it?
>> Because did you read, did you read the book?
>> I read much of it because we were required to. Glenn Beck fans.
>> That's right. Okay. So, you read much of it. Uh, if you read all of it, or if you remember what you read, and I know we read so much here. Um, if you remember what you read, at the first part of it, you're like, "This guy kind of makes sense." Right? Right. First chapter, maybe the first two, you're like, "Yeah, boy. This guy gets it. We are, we are falling apart. We are, this is happening. This is happening." And then you get later in the book, you get into it and you're like, "Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait." He's talking about the apocalypse. He's talking about cheering on the apocalypse. So he all he's looking for are the disenfranchised. He needs us to be angry with one another. He needs us to hate one another. He needs us to point out enemies all the time. Okay? None of these people who are saying these things are my enemies. They are, they are sadly, horribly misguided. But I am not going to get into a personality game. I'm going to talk about the principles. The principles that they are preaching now stem from this kind of thinking and this guy, and they are dangerous. And you're not going to be able to convince everybody. You're just not. But those with eyes and ears to see and hear, they will wake up. They will see it. And once you see it, you'll go, "Oh, I shouldn't even question this anymore. Why is this happening to this person? Why is this person doing it?" What? When you see that once they are in bed with this kind of poison, dismiss them. Dismiss them and never go back. There is one thing to say, "I keep an open mind." There is another to say, "I don't need to hear that." Once I recognize, "Oh, that is antichrist thinking." Once you recognize that, there is no reason to go back to that box and go, "Well, what are they saying today?" Nope. Nope. And you're not going to change everybody. And you're certainly not going to do it by picking fights with personalities. Talk principles. This is the root of this kind of thinking, and he needs us to hate. He needs us to be divided. Why do you think, why do you think some of us have been saying to others, "Please don't pick this fight. Please." I mean, I understand how you got in the fight. I mean, Ricky has had to restrain me a couple of times from saying a few things. Why? Why? Why are you picking this fight? Well, because somebody has to say it, right? But why, why have I not got into this fight? Because hatred needs it. It grows. It feeds on it. It feeds on it. I have already done too much damage today. I want you to take the best parts of what I have said to you today and ponder these things, pray on these things. When somebody is, I mean, do you not think with enough, enough sectarian, enough with the sectarian factions, "All Shia should join the final battle. All real Muslims also, it's a unique chance to achieve the victory over the common enemy." In 2024, he also said, "We should give nukes to the Palestinians and nukes to anyone who would fight against the real enemy, again, us." Give nukes to the Palestinians. H. Give nukes to anyone who would fight against us. That we should all join in the final battle. Does any of that sound like good advice? Not to me. It doesn't. But you know what? A lot of people marching in the streets today, Americans, they are so deeply disenfranchised and so deeply, um, [snorts] fogged that they would think that that's a good idea. Yeah. You know what? America's had all this strength all the time. They have nuclear weapons. Why shouldn't they? Why shouldn't the Palestinians have nuclear? I'm telling you. I'm telling you, it is no longer logical, and you're not going to be able to save everybody. I'm concerned about my soul. I'm concerned about my children's soul. My job and my faith requires me to be concerned about your soul. Over the republic, your soul is at stake. People are going to end up on the wrong side. They're not even going to know it. They're just not even going to know it. And it will happen through people like this that are telling you, "I understand how you feel. I get it. I get it. This country really has screwed you, hasn't it? This country is so far off base. This country has, look at it, it's its poverty. It's crime in the streets. Its judges don't listen anymore. Or the politicians don't answer to you. There's nothing. You know what the problem is? All this freedom." I know that sounds crazy, right? Sounds crazy. All this freedom. But you know what? If we just had a few people step in with some more power, well, then they would be able to solve all this stuff and they'd be able to correct the problem. Well, how do you correct the problem when you can't, when your politicians can't convince half the half the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, population that it's wrong? How do you correct that? Well, a strong man knows how to correct it. You start rounding people up, or you start shooting people. That's how it happens. And what does that lead to? More freedom or less freedom? And if we're all in a free society, what is the best way to tear it apart from the outside or the inside? To have us question. You know, one of the things he did, he wrote that book, uh, for the red states specifically targeting MAGA people. They are, he has been targeting MAGA to rip MAGA apart. Let me ask you something. With all the stuff that you're seeing happening right now currently online, do you think MAGA is going to be strong or weak? Are we making MAGA stronger? Are we, are we have an unstoppable force like we had in 2024 where we're all standing together and we're all in lockstep? Or are we all now questioning and dividing, and is it getting better or worse? Whose plan do you think that is? I believe there's only two options in front of us. We restore the Constitution and our principles as we know them, or as we should know them. Restore those things and try to spread them throughout the whole world to help free more men and women, and not through military, but through the way we run our country and we live our lives. People flocked here before because of it. Because we lived them, or at least we tried to. We believed in them. We corrected our mistakes. There's either that. Restore this nation back to its first principles, or face a final battle. Now, maybe that final battle is just for the Western world. Maybe that is capital F, capital B, capital Final Battle. I don't know. But those are our two choices. Restore sanity and come back to our founding principles, or destroy it all. I know what side Dugan is on. I know what side he is pushing, and I know how he is doing it. Trying to appeal to people who just want common sense. It is not common sense. It is evil, and it is now being spread by our own side. Be very careful. Back in a minute.
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Glenn Beck is back after this. [music] [music]
>> Welcome back to the Torch Insider Show. This is exact, this conversation exactly why I did the George AI today on statism because that's, that's personally, that's just what I believe. I think that is what is being used, intense radical statism, to tear the country apart. I'm going to get to a few of your comments because you were talking pretty much right along line with what I'm, the rest of the stuff. I'm going to stay on Dugan and then we'll get off of it. Um, but I want to say, if, if you're not a Torch subscriber, you really need to go to glenbeck.com/torch and subscribe because you're not going to be able to hear some of these George AI. Even if you disagree with the whole AI thing in general, or if it makes you leery, this is just pretty much George AI is just a pretty, I basically a search engine, a tool to look through all the founding documents, all that. And it's just, it uses a large language model, an LLM, to put it all together in a conversational form. That's all it is. It's really cool, and it can, uh, it can, it could be a teaching guide to anything you want to know that, you know, founder specific, and the founding of our country. It's really cool. I have a lot of fun with it, but you're not going to be able to get access to that. And you're not going to be able to get access to the insider feed. Do not lose access. I don't want you to lose access. You have about 9 minutes left of this before you lose it. So, go to glenbeck.com/torch and subscribe.
Um, the poll is, I believe it's still active. Yep. 38 minutes left. Uh, an update on the poll. The poll is today, should Congress nuke the filibuster? The yes votes are are still winning at 48%. No is at 25%, and unsure conflicted is the number two option that's at 27%. So, I, I completely get the conflicted part of this because it's, it's not, it's not easy. It's, it really is not a black and white issue. It's, it's scary to think that if they, when they get power, that they can just do whatever the heck they want, pass whatever the heck they want, and there would be no way to stop it. Especially if the midterms go as badly as some people are saying they might go. Still too early to call. We, we'll see more on that. But that will be up for another 30 minutes. Once that poll is over, we'll have another, you know, longer in-depth conversation on it, going through probably an hour or two, sometime, maybe the bottom of the hour, uh, hour or two.
Um, Gabby Johnson commenting on this Dugan stuff said she's getting depressed. Gabby, don't get depressed. I, I think that, um, I think this is actually good news. It's good news that the masks on some of these these dangerous ideologues, that the masks are coming off. This is very, very good news. And what is it doing? It's not only exposing who they are. It's exposing all the people that are talking in line with them, that are following them, that are attached to that movement. They are also getting exposed. This is very, very, very good news. We can see it and we can weed it out as we notice more and more people are jumping along, you know, with this ideology. I, I, I see this as a bonus. It's, it's a big win.
Um, Red Rock Cassandra said, "They know they can tear us apart, our country from the outside. The only way is from within. We have to rededicate this country to God." 100% agree. And kind of along the lines of tearing our country apart, Michelle in the mountain said, "I see this as a way to disenfranchise the right patriots. The deliberate inaction of Congress is deliberate to depress the base." [snorts] Talking about disenfranchising and and tearing the, uh, the right apart. That is exactly what Dugan is trying to do. Uh, I'm pulling up this article from RA Foundation again. I'm just going to quote from it. I got 30 seconds. Yeah. Um, wow. Producer BJ is worse than producer Matt. This is insane. It's tearing me off. Um, Dugan's strategy involves sowing deep political divisions within the United States. Europe exploited and Europe exploiting existing tensions. That was his theory of the multipolar world, which is delivered in a way to make it sound like a just about sharing, uh, sharing power. No, it's not. It's about advancing the power of Russia, China, and Iran, that axis. And if you hear anyone, whether a podcast or whatever, talking about seeding power to China or Russia, big warning light. Anyway, back to Glenn.
So, this from the Washington Free Beacon. This is, uh, Michigan's left-wing Democratic Senate candidate talking to staffers about why he needs to remain quiet. Cut eight. Listen.
>> So, like this is going to destabilize. Reason. I also want to remind you guys that that there are a lot of people in Dearborn who are sad today.
>> Mhm.
>> So, like I just don't want to comment on at all. Like I, I don't think it's worth even touching that. But like we have the moral high ground here. I think the more we stay out of like, they're going to try and bait us into saying, "Yeah, but isn't it justified now that they took him out?"
>> Right.
>> And I just think for like,
>> Mhm.
Does it frighten anybody that there is a, a guy, uh, who is running for Senate, probably will win, uh, that doesn't want to say anything about the Ayatollah [music] being killed because a lot of his constituents like the Ayatollah? That should bother you now. But don't worry, nobody's interested in washing the world in blood. Uh, okay. We're going to, we're going to move on. Maybe some happier things next. [music]
>> [snorts]
>> Welcome back to the Torch Insider Show. You have about four minutes left. If you're not subscribed to keep access to the Torch Insider show and all the additional stuff that we're doing, uh, go now, go to glenbeck.com/torch and subscribe. You're going to get access to tons of our old other content like the special that we just did a couple of weeks ago, plus George AI, Glen AI, everything, all the other podcasts. It's, there's way too much content that's up there right now, but we got a lot more planned. Plus, this is the thing that I actually love the most is getting to interact directly with you. I do not want you to lose access to that. I want you in on these debates and these conversations because there's a lot of good stuff going on. My mind has been changed on multiple different things that you have said. So, I appreciate you being there. If you're not there, please come in. We'd love to have you. Everyone, uh, drop us a line, let us know where you, uh, came over from. Uh, and let us know what you want to talk about. And then, uh, I will direct this conversation. If, if you right now, if you go to glenbeck.com/torch, you subscribe right now, let us know where you came over from, tell me what you want to talk about, and I will direct that segment exactly what you want to talk about. So, let me know. Drop in. Um, everyone kind of hold my feet to the fire on that. Let me know if someone jumped in and did that, and then we will talk about what you want to talk about. Um, I'm looking right now at, you know, I'm, I'm going to because I, I, I have a lot of time during this segment and I do not want to get away from this, uh, but actually just to tie a bow around all this Dugan, uh, talk and, uh, everything that it means and as Gabby Johnson said, getting depressed. I do not see it as that way. I see it as a big-time bonus that these people are getting outed right now. So if they, if all the people that are attaching themselves to this kind of ideology now that this ideology has fully had the mask ripped off and they're getting outed, I love the fact that anyone that is close to him or that ideology is now being exposed as well. So this is great news. I think this could be very healthy, specifically for the GOP, because a lot of the GOP is getting infected with some of this stuff, which is absolutely just insane. But to tie a bow on this properly, I'm going to have to give you a little bit of today's animated George AI. Today's animated George AI is, you know, and let me go, I, I'll, I'll really quickly hit on why I chose statism as the thing or the topic that I wanted the founders to address. There's a reason for that. I told you before, but I, I'll at the end of this, I'll just, you know, final one and done. We'll get off this subject, but here is animated George on statism.
>> Hamilton, for all his reputation, cautioned in Federalist number 84, the security to liberty consists in a due observance of the principles of the Constitution and in giving the government no greater powers than those enumerated. He's saying, "Don't trust good intentions. Demand boundaries. And if the lines blur, restore them with both hands and a clear mind." Even Adams, prickly old John, thundered, "Because power corrupts, society's demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases. If the sinus of power grow too thick, the body politic cannot move or breathe. You lose the spark of liberty. So, did we believe statism, call it what you like, was antithetical to the American project? In action, in suspicion, in the spells we wove into the very machinery of government, you bet we did. We never trusted unfenced power, no matter whose hand held the reins. I'll be plain. My own years, I saw parties form and divide. I suspected some of my critics were less interested in liberty than in their own victories. Deal.