Amy Coney Barrett Threatened, NYC Data Center Ban, OpenAI vs Apple| PBD Podcast #833

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright.

My handshake is better than anything I ever sign. It's right here.

So, so let let me get this straight. If you choose to become the Supreme Court Justice.

Yes.

How much risk do you have with that job?

Huge.

Huge. So imagine you go in choosing to have one of the most difficult jobs. You're hated. It's controversial. It's difficult. Then when you get death threats, you start siding with the other side and your voting record changes.

That's if that's a job you got, then don't be a Supreme Court justice. If you become a president or if you become a vice president, you say, "I'm getting too many threats." If you become a military guy and you go to war and you're saying, "Hey man, these enemies are trying to kill me." That's the job. Don't do the job. Go take a different job.

Anyways, it's one of the top stories. I got a lot of thoughts on that with Amy Coney Barrett. Numbers came out. The fact that after she got the threat, she talked about how incredibly devastating it is, the types of threats she's getting that she has to go home with a what do you call it? With a a bulletproof vest and explain to her sons that she's taking off. And I get that. But guess what? That's the job. That's the job. And we'll get into that story. I got a lot of thoughts on that specific story.

Anyways, good to be with you guys. IBM stock drops 25% in a single day. Apparently, the worst day they've had in how many years, Tom? 50, 60 years. They've never had a single day like this. IBM and there's a there's a tie with that story in H1B visas that they're mainly starting to hire. Their numbers when I share it with you, you're going to be like, "Wait a minute. The numbers drop like that?" Yes. They had a certain expectation of hitting I think $16.1 billion. They fell short by like $2 billion. And the market's like, "What happened here?" This is a little weird. We'll address that.

Amy Coney Beard for sure. Spain beat France. Not going to lie to you. I was hurt. I didn't like it. I was rooting for Mbappe. I'll just say it. I think Spain's the most boring team in the World Cup so far. And every time I say that, they're the Spurs of the 90s. They're the Cleveland Cavaliers of the 18. Craig Elo, Mark Price, Brad Dohy, Tim Duncan, Derek, what was the guy's name then? Parker, just Tony Parker.

Boring, boring, boring team. Spain is, but they're freaking good.

They're very good.

And Argentina beat England.

Uh, had to call my friend, man, Paul. You know, he was all like ready for $20,000 tickets, all that stuff. you know, we, you know, talking to, you know, I'm suggesting him a couple different sponsors to reach out to to go through this challenging time with England, but there's a lot of story with Bellingham at the end slapping one of the players, Argentina holding the sign that they're not supposed to have a political message, the scene where Bellingham said something to Messi and a Messi like, "Oh, really? Okay, no problem. Look what I'm going to do." We can't even play that clip because the clip on X was taken down because anything with them are taking it down. But uh it's leading to Spain, Argentina. It's what it is. And there's a picture of uh uh uh Messi Vinnie just showed us this morning of Lam Lamal when he was a baby and he's like almost giving him a bath, you know. So I don't know what's going to end up happen.

Yeah. At that time, but we we'll see. And the interviews Messi's been doing, the stuff he's been saying, it's phenomenal.

Trump's got a speech he's giving tonight.

Yep.

A lot of people are speculating on what happened. They're saying the speech was leaked to Wall Street Journal. Of course, all those leaks always happen accidentally. Nobody would ever leak the story to get headline and marketing and stuff that comes to it. Some of the things that they're going to be talking about is foreign um uh uh uh you know, countries colluding in our elections.

No.

And some real, you know, real decisions and maybe even an executive order tonight. And we were hoping we can talk about it as well as the movie Odyssey, but it's not out yet. And so, as much as we want to trash Odyssey, some people are saying it's a good movie. I don't I'm going to watch it. I'm going to watch it. Vinnie told me it's like a 17-hour movie. Here we go again. One of these long three-hour movies that you go and you have to prepare.

By the way, when they do three-hour movies, are commercials like two hours as well?

Like, do they do they do one hour of commercials for three-hour movies? Yeah. It's like a 4 hour. It's a full day. You're committing to the drive, the food, the parking, the you know, too much.

Anyways, we'll see. We'll see with that. But Trump is giving a speech tonight.

Open AI. Apparently, it's corporate espionage is taking place between Open AI and Apple. And guess who is defending Apple? A guy who's a trillionaire is defending Apple. Not surprised because of Sam Alman, but apparently this is some really ugly ugly nasty stuff that OpenAI is doing. We have to address this.

Then a same-sex couple, this is a Vinnie story. Vinnie's bothered by this. a same-sex couple that paid for a surrogate to have a kid and apparently the kid comes out in a way they're not happy about it with some health issues and they're trying to sue the girl if I'm not mistaken. Am I saying that correctly? Am I roughly there?

Yeah, they're suing her because there's a a birth defect that they didn't with the kid sign up for.

They wanted her to abort the defective kid so they could go have another surrogate with a perfect kid.

And she said, "That's just not what I'm going to do."

Yeah. And by the way, I'm not stretching that. That's exactly what

we we'll talk about that. And Taco Bell, by the way, if you've guys been eating a Taco Bell or a Yoko Taco Bell, the whole situation with this one new virus that uh we spent 45 minutes this morning, honestly, they were trying to teach me how to pronounce this word cuz this is going to be another one of those moments where you guys question my English as my fifth language. And I welcome you to do it. It's going to be okay. But uh I I'd love to see how you pronounce it. To all the perfect people out there that think they speak perfect English, you go on and say this word. What is it? Cycllosporosis. Did I say

Cycllos porasis?

Did I say it correctly or not?

Poracis.

Go ahead, Adam.

I'm gonna give you the I'm gonna give you the thumbs up. You got that one.

All right. Whatever, man. It's It is what it is. I'm taking Hooked on Phonics and I'm taking other classes, but we're getting there. Work for you. We'll we'll figure this thing out.

Then AI data centers. Something happened with AI data centers in New York where they're the first state that's saying to screw, you know, the hell with AI data centers. So, what does that really mean? We'll address that.

And last but not least, if you're in the military, you're 30 years old and you have low tea, there's a guy named Pete Hexet that wants to increase your tea, okay? He wants to increase your testosterone level. Especially if you're in the military, he wants a bunch of jacked benching two plates 20 times type of guy, squatting three plates, big legs, you know, big arms. He wants those types of guys. So he's kind of like the old school Russian style of uh, you know, in Russia most of the military guys you would look at those Russians you knew that was like a picture perfect commercial for you know testosterone or cypade or any of that stuff. Yeah. And that was just a woman Tom you're funny.

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With that being said, let's get right into it. First story I want to get into is Amy Coney Barrett. Amy Coney Barrett tells the world that she's been getting threats and the world sympathizes. A lot of conservatives do. It's not an easy job to be Supreme Court justice, especially when you have to vote a certain way. But this report comes out, this tweet, if you want to first show the numbers, then we'll go to the clip. And then I want you to see what other Supreme Court justice said when they were trying to scare the crap out of him and saying, "Even if it kills me, I'm not letting you guys do this." On the face of a previous president, Joe Biden, in the video, I want you to watch this. Let me read it to you. Amy Coney Barrett's record tells a troubling story. Okay, if you can zoom in a little bit to to the right before DOS, she voted with conservative position in 81% of unanimous cases. Since then, that number was dropped sharply into the 50 to 60% range. A lot of people say why including on major cases invol involving birthright citizenship. You know what birthright cit it's stuff that liberals would even agree with. So birthright citizenship and uh uh election procedures, you know, the whole voter ID stuff that was going through as well and administrative power where she has sided with Chief Justice Roberts Endoliberals. The DOS leak triggered violent threats and protests aimed directly at Supreme Court justices. If the threat of violence or intimidation can move a justice votes on fundamental issues, we have a constitutional crisis on our hands. And I agree with this tweet. Judicial independence is not optional. It is the foundation of the rule of law. When justice appears to bend under pressure, public trust collapses and the entire system is at risk. Can I give a respect to this tweet of this person? Can you go to the name of the person so I can give him a shout out? I just want to make sure the right person. Rosco uh Rosco Smith. Uh is that the sixth? I think it's Rosco Smith the fourth. Can you go back to the tweet please? Low.

Uh so so as you go and you go through this, this cannot be allowed to stand, etc., etc. Look at the left. You look at the left is how the votes were 81%. Then it drops to 59, 57, and 50. And then this video comes out where she's talking about the threats she got. That one time she had to go home with a vest on. Not this one. It's the other one where she does the Fox interview. If you don't have it, I think if you go below that, you should find it. when you see this clip of her when she's out there uh if you just do you have it or you want to go uh uh no not this one there's one of her being interviewed on Fox Amy Coney Barrett where she's being interviewed on Fox and she's explaining the threats that she got and uh uh by the way all you have to do is here let me just send it to you from here if you don't have it I just send it to you if you want to pull it up okay she explains how it's scary for her she explains how she had to go. There you go. She explains how she had to go to her family and her son. Watch this. This is tough, folks. I I'm I'm totally sympathizing with her and that she's gone through this. Watch this.

So, I thought I would just share a little bit about how the threats have uh affected me and my family personally.

Um, they have required me to my my children to think about and see things that children should not have to see or think about. One example is when threats to my life were particularly intense a few years ago around the time of the dos leak. My security details sent me home with a bulletproof vest and I carried it into my house, put it into my bedroom, dropped it down on a table, turned around and my 12-year-old son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom and he wanted to know what it was and why I had it. and I didn't know how to respond because maybe I lack imagination, but I didn't expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was and why I had to wear one. Um, it's also been reported in the news that roughly six weeks ago, I was the victim of a swatting incident. Um, at at that point, my teenage son, one of my teenage sons, opened the door to go out with friends and saw in our street, it was full of police cars, um, who had responded to a false report of gunshots and raised voices in my home. I was very, very grateful that I had Supreme Court police outside my home because they were able to stop and meet with and explain to the county police that it had been a false alarm. And so the police did not actually attempt to enter.

You can pause it right there. So, by the way, devastating. This should not be happening. Nobody should have to go through this. Especially Amy, who is only in her early 50s. She, you can tell she's very young. And she's got seven kids. Her and her husband have seven kids together. Starting from 25 to 20 to 18, 15, 13, and 12. I believe they have seven kids if I'm not mistaken. It's six or seven kids. Big family. This shouldn't happen. However, don't take the job. Don't take the job cuz watch what happened when they try to push another guy for the same job and look how he reacted. Look at the difference. Go for it.

I'd rather die than withdraw.

Look at Joe Biden how he looks at him.

If they're going to kill me, they're going to kill me.

Just watch this. Wait for it.

So, you'd still like to serve on the Supreme Court?

I'd rather die than withdraw from the process. I don't like bullies. Listen. Say it.

Look at Biden.

Not for the purpose of serving on the Supreme Court, but for the purpose of not being driven out of this process.

Wait for it.

I will not be scared. I don't like bullies.

Bingo.

I've never run from bullies. I never cry uncle. And I'm not going to cry uncle today whether I want to be on the Supreme Court or not. So I thought

I love him.

So So you see the difference there? So here's the thing. So one could sit there and say, "Well, why don't you sympathize with her?" Uh, we do, but this is a very, very important job. I if if you want to go to my Twitter account, what I said about it, I mean, I I'll just pull it up here on what I have is I I if this job comes with threats, this job is risky, this job has a lot of pressure, this job isn't for everybody, but if you're scared for your life, then quit. My suggestion, Amy Coney Barrett should resign and step out of the way. You should. And and by the way, we shouldn't judge her for it. It shouldn't be like she's a quitter, she's no no. If if you realize you're I had a guy one time, he told me this and I'll I'll come to you guys because I want to hear your thoughts. And to me, this the most important story. You know why this the most important story? What have we learned the last six years? Who has all the power in America? Supreme Court. Absolutely. There is no story bigger than this in my opinion.

If all of a sudden they scare the crap out of you, you go from 81% conservative to 50%. Step the hell out of the way.

Yep. One time a guy who was on my board, he said to me, he says, ' Pat, I can't do these board meetings anymore. I said, 'Why not?' He says, 'Because I'm getting anxiety.' I said, 'Really?' He says, 'I'm I'm not even comfortable presenting in front of the board. It makes me really nervous.' I said, 'No problem. Let's have a meeting.' I said, 'Which which part of the And we had a cordial conversation. One of the best employees I ever had in my life, by the way. Phenomenal. One of the best employees I ever had in my life. But we sat down, we had a conversation, we removed the responsibilities, gave it to somebody else, and he crushed the responsibilities that were left with him. That's okay. It's okay if Amy Coney Barrett says this is too much pressure. Resign. But if you're going to vote in a different way because they're scaring you, you're impacting the people who this is going to affect for the next few decades. Few decades. Few decades. Yesterday, Rogan and Vance were speaking and one of the things that came up was that Rogan said it's almost as if Democrats want to be able to cheat because who has a hard time giving IDs out? Joe was saying this very common sense conversation with Vance and he says, you know, even during what do you call it? Uh, COVID, they wanted me to have a vaccine card, ID card. I think he's saying something like that. What's the big deal? These are the types of things that OMI Amy Coney Barrett impacts. I'm sorry. I I have a very hard time. Call me black and white. Whatever you want to call me. This job's not for everybody. Get a Josh Holly in there. Get a Cruz in there. Get a Who's the guy I like the most? Trey Gouty. Get a Trey Gouty in there.

Amen.

Get Get some of these guys in there. Who, by the way, if Trey says, "I don't want to do cuz I talked to Trey once. Too much pressure." Don't do it. But get somebody in there that wants the job and knows the threats that comes with it. I'll pause. I've been going on rant for a while. Tom, your thoughts on this?

Well, first I got some facts for people. um threats against senators, congressmen, and uh Supreme Court justices. Apparently, the FBI,

yeah,

investigates 20ome threats that are maybe credible threats a week. In other words, lunatic sends an email or they intercept something, but nothing comes of it. The person was just blowing off steam, make some comments. That that seems pretty regular. Do you know how many actual assassination attempts against Supreme Court Justice there have been?

Three. The first happened in 1889 and it was Supreme Court's Justice Steven Field. He was tracked and being stalked and so he hired a security guard and at a train station in California, he was attacked by the stalker and the security guard 1889 with a Colt 45 shot him dead. It was a bonafide assassination attempt. The next one would happen a hundred years later. Harry Blackman, who's Harry Blackman? The author of Rovie Wade. In 1985, a bullet was fired through a window of his house from an asalent outside that fled, but it was a bonafide assassination attempt. He apparently the guy was trying to follow the shadow of him. You know, even if you have the curtains pulled, Pat, they can see your shadow walking. He was he was trying to make the hit. So, it wasn't just a driveby. It was a bonafide attempt and he was the Roie Wade author. You know when the next one happened? 2022. It was Brent Kavanaaugh. Brett Kavanaaugh Nick Rosski traveled from California had a Glock pepper spray map of Kavanaaugh's house overview of a police detail zip ties. So he was ready to do it. Apparently he had a mental breakdown and he called 911 on himself Pat. So thank goodness whatever happened there. Now, Dob's leak happened in um in early 2022 before the Kavanaaugh. This guy was triggered by Dobs and went to Kavanaaugh's house. And Amy Comey Barrett, when was she confirmed? October of 2020. Remember remember what went down with that is that Trump 45 got her done just two weeks before the election. And there was all the controversy for the Senate, but the Senate got her done 2020 for the election. Why do I bring this up? She knew she was coming into a really hot time and a really intense time not only for America, but to be on the Supreme Court. And then to see what's happened with Kavanaaugh, that was a bonafide threat. That could have gone very, very badly. And I agree with you. Look, if the situation is just so intense right now and there is no shame in saying zero,

I can't put my

And by the way, imagine her with all those children. How do I get security for every school, every date, every athletic event they go to to protect all of my children and my family? And it may just be something that she says, "I can't do it." But what's interesting, we're entering into a time now thanks to dos and other things. We've only had three of those full attempts on record and one the bodyguard 1889 shot the guy. But we live in a different world now.

Vinnie and and she's the only female Scotas. Correct. Although one's Katanji Brown and all the other ones are all left. They're all Democrats. Correct.

Oh yeah. So she's the only one. And it's like but and it's sad but I mean

there was Sandra Day O

and Tom how many times how I I've been on this podcast Pat for what four years now? It's is it just me? I'm not saying the other side the Republican Convertive side isn't violent. There's crazy people everywhere. But when it comes to this type of stuff it's as if it's only coming from one side. The Supreme Court exists for what?

It's not as if Keep on your thought, but I got to interrupt you and say it's not as if it is.

Okay. Thank you, Tom. What's its job, Tom? Supreme Court. Uphold the Constitution, not to bend to intimidation. Okay. Viol if a violent threat could change the way that you're deciding rules, Pat. Then the mob has the power of the law. And that cannot freaking happen. That's why I love that you said, with all due respect, you can't take the heat. You have to get out of the kitchen. And I feel so bad for you think you think we're happy that her 12-year-old has to sit there and go, "Hey, what's that?" And she's like, "Oh, it's a bulletproof vest cuz they want to kill mommy." Okay. But if fear's influencing your judgment, you have no business to be in the highest court in the country. You made a great point. I think it was like two weeks ago, Pat, where you're like, at the end of the day, with all the noise and all the fluff, when it comes down to these people, they're making the decisions. And when it comes to the serious ones, they're kind of leaning towards the the right decision with the decision, Tom, are six, you know, 63 or whatever, whatever the number is. But we cannot let these people win. And how many times, Tom, every time we're trying to do something to help the country with interfering with the ICE agents, murdering of Charlie Kirk, God rest his soul, even on their own side, remember Melissa Hortman, she tried to vote against uh giving illegals um healthcare, they shot and killed HER AT HER HOUSE. And who's doing it? You think a Republican did it? No, it's people of of the same freaking party, Pat. So, if that kind of behavior succeeds in changing Supreme Court decisions, then the rule of law is under attack. And we have we can't we can't do it and I'm sorry.

And the Senate election is more important.

Putantis get a Dantis in there.

This job is a risky job.

Yeah.

This is not for everybody. I fully understand Amy. I get it.

If I if she was my wife, I would say babe,

hey, if you're going and kids are not safe and this is what's happening, hey, let's figure something out. So, Adam, your thoughts?

Well, PBD, I think it's actually a very important discussion. We don't really talk about the Supreme Court all that often. Trump gets all the media attention, Iran, everything that's going on, but I think you bring up a very interesting conversation. So, I we may be respectfully being a little unfair to her because if you look at her voting record, she's actually pretty damn conservative. I mean, the way that it goes, Tom kind of broke it down. There's nine justices at the Supreme Court. You have the conservative wing and the liberal wing. The conservatives by far, Clarence Thomas, he's like 10 out of 10 conservative. And then you got Alo who's like right behind him. Interestingly enough, the next conservative if if you look at their voting record goes Gorsuch, then Amy Comey Barrett, then Kavanaaugh having a beer with him would be fun. Then what they call like center right Judge uh Justice Roberts and then center right. Then you have this huge wide gap between the three female liberal judges, Elena Kagan, Katanji John, uh Brown Jackson, sorry, Miss Jackson, and Soayor, who's like the most liberal Obama inductee ever. But here's what I see. I see six conservatives, legit. Some are center right, and three liberals. I understand this is a tough job, and you know, PBD, you always say, "What's the number one job of a mom?" a mama bear safety and security of her kids. If she feels threatened for her kids, maybe she could consider stepping down. But as far as what she's done for the country, as far as her voting rights, abortion, affirmative action, second amendment, religious liberties, parents not transing their kids, she's been pretty damn conservative. So, I'll tip my cap to her on that.

But the do the do's decision though was Ro v Way. I think I think Adam missed the first three minutes of the the clip that we had where the main analysis is how it changed.

So maybe you went on chat GBTN and said who's the most conservative after DOS it changed guy? After DOS it changed dos was what year? Did you see the dates? So she may have been very conservative pre

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after dos June 2022 she got in October of 20

after that she dropped off. So you know if if that when you see numbers like that happen because of an event that takes place.

I'm going to sit there and have serious conversations with you and see and by the way how often has a Supreme Court justice stepped down stepped down and resigned. How many times has that happened in the past where they just and not not because of anything controversial for family reasons for non-controversial reasons. How many times

have Supreme Court justice a great question for non-controversial reasons?

Yeah, normally it's just age. I don't know if it's happened or not, but guess what? This may be a good time for us to consider this. Okay, there's been 116 different people that have uh served the Supreme Court. 107 are no longer serving 109 which nine. So if you mean true resignations not retirement zoom in a little bit John J. Well that's a long time ago 1795.

Yeah.

Oliver Ellsworth Ellsworth great surprise chief Tom your great father Evan Hughes 1916 to run for president Abe Foris 1969 amid ethics controversy. I'm not looking for that. So the short answer is most left through retirement genuine resignations are uncommon. Well, let this be the first one. Let us be the first one or get hardcore security and go back to the way you truly vote, not letting the other people scare the crap out of you where, you know, when it comes on to birthright citizenship, it's that complicated of an issue for you to vote against for that. that's that's not, you know, or you know, voter ID or other things. Anyway, so to me, the biggest concern with the story is her way of voting changed after DOS because the threats that she got and that that cannot happen. You can't have something like that happen. Adam,

I hear you loud and clear. Yes, I did hear the first three minutes, sir. I'm just asking a simple question. You know, they say like correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation. Did it actually change after that or did the cases change? I just showed you the numbers

because

what's that?

I just showed you the numbers right there.

No, meaning did did the cases change to the point where she's like cuz look, here's what I know and I'm this is not the hill I'm going to die on. I promise you this. Her mentor is who? Anton Scalia. Very conservative guy. What they basically say about this lady, this conservative justice is that she's reliably reliably conservative, but she's unpredictable. They actually want that in in a in a justice where they're not just voting across. I don't have a problem with unpredictability. Is it fair to say that the DOBS decision was the most controversial decision we had the last 20 years?

The last 50 years.

Is it fair to say? So, so how many people were furious over the dos decision?

A lot of people. Well, guess what? Scared the crap. Maybe it scared the crap out of her,

you know, and then and you're laying in bed at night with your husband saying, "Babe, I don't know if this is that worth it, you know. Maybe let's pump the brakes a little bit. Maybe let's it's not worth to have the risk for the kids. You don't think those types of conversations happen out when you're laying next to your wife and your husband like, "Hey, let's change it." You don't think they're doing it? Of course, that conversation took place.

100%.

Of course it did.

Do you think

And they're at home talking about Kavanaaugh. How was work today?

Brett Kavanagh, a guy was at his house. He was armed. He had everything he had made. He had him out of the house.

Don't take the Oh my gosh, honey. What if someone

This sucks. Oh my god. You know the president got there was an assassination attempt on him. He's the freaking president.

Or,

oh my god, you know, such and such. They try to foul him. Hey, did you see the Detroit Pistons try to hurt Michael Jordan? Yes. Don't come through the middle.

Oh my god, that's that's just not Yeah. kind of what happens when you get that that kind of a So, yeah. To me, I'm just I'm I I think I think it's something that she ought to consider and and uh move on and have her life where I'm at with this. Okay, let's go to next story.

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Next story. Tonight, Trump speech. A lot of people are saying, "What's the guy going to be talking about?" You know, what's he going to be saying? All of a sudden, he's given a speech on Thursday. Yesterday, he puts a tweet out about Iran released a girl that was a hostage, is over here now, and he says, "Hey, this is a good move. This was under Biden, but now is this." And then they bombed him. There's attacks, all the stuff that's going on. So, what is the speech going to be about? Well, apparently the speech is Yeah. Right there. Iran has allowed an American citizen who was wrongfully detained in December of 2024 for the president of Sleepy Joe Biden to leave the country. She is now safely outside of Iran and is in good condition. The United States of America appreciates this gesture of goodwill from Iran. Okay. So, where's that going with? Let me let me read this to you so we kind of have an idea. So, Trump is to address Iran. Do I do you guys see my glasses are in here? Here we go. Trump to address Iran election integrity in prime time speech tonight. This is an Axio story. President Trump prime time speech Thursday night from the White House is slated to include election integrity, an update on Iran. Whether whatever else he seems important to Msini adviser Tel Axios, it will be a pot pur the dough ever available to reporters. Trump hasn't given many prime time direct to camera speeches from the White House. He wants to do more of them. The adviser said Trump announced on Truth Social on Monday that he plans to give a speech to the nation on Thursday at 9:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. the specifics. Beyond that, we're in the White House and the expect topics are less certain, but two issues are in top of mind. Iran, election integrity. Tom, what do you know about the speech tonight?

So, this wasn't leaked. The White House wants to make sure that people know that those are going to be the two core things, and they're trying to get out in front of all the the armchair quarterbacking, which I think is smart. I think it's smart for the president to let a reliable news outlet, you know, know that the general outline of what he's going because you want, you know, um, Americans to tune in. What's he going to talk? I'm talking about Iran. I'm talking about election integrity. And I think what's what's really coming up here is also is to talk if he's going to talk about election integrity, he's got to talk about what everybody has been talking about the last week. Even people that are moderate and not necessarily a full conservative have been on CNBC talking about now we know this was an absolute fraud. What do you network say about it? Chamath was on saying that on CNBC calling the networks out.

So I think this is this is good news to hear. It makes me want to tune in and hear what my president has to say about election integrity, about November. How are we going to keep November um lined up? And then also we hear about Georgia that maybe Oaf and Waro, maybe they were, maybe they weren't. And maybe there were some oddities. I'm going to call them oddities so we don't get a letter um that were in the electoral system there. And maybe they would have won, maybe they wouldn't. Who knows? But Georgia a little iffy. I love the fact he's going to be talking about it. But overall, I want him to be talking about somewhere in this is not only talk about Iran and not only talk about the election, but also talk about affordability. way. I want to see that.

Interesting you're saying that because Osaf says Trump has Georgia election obsession. He said Trump fears losing the midterms and will retreat reheat debunked election conspiracy theories to deny his 2020 defeat and attack voting rights. He argued that renewed fraud claims would force Collins to embrace theories that have performed poorly in general election. Trump's obsession with Georgia election revealed his fury that black voters were instrumental to his defeat. Of said while seeking support for voter protection and an FBI investigation in Fulton County is ongoing, a judge recently rejected a Justice Department subpoena seeking extensive personal information about thousands of Fulton County election workers and volunteers, calling it a staggering overreach. The judge said the statute of limitations has expired and a request covered and unjustifiably brought period. Adam, your thoughts on this.

So the the speech is going to be tonight, correct?

9:00 p.m.

Okay. So, we don't know exactly what he's going to say, but you know, the one thing that I I find interesting, we talk about Iran, we talk about United States. You know who we don't often talk about the most are Iran's neighbors. So, we often hear about, you know, Israel, US verse Iran. Here's what I think Trump is doing. I think he's basically saying, "Hey guys, Oman, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi, Lebanon, Syria, all these countries. It says, "You got to pick a side at this point, guys, because you know they say, "Clean up your neighborhood. Clean up your house before you start telling other people what to do." This neighborhood has basically been abducted by Iran's radical philosophy. And what Trump has done is made all these Middle Eastern Arab countries pick a side. So what have we seen conclusively? We've seen countries like the UAE align fully with America and almost Israel. They signed the the Abraham Accords. Bahrain, Jordan, Kuwait, Saudi even. My opinion is some of these countries are going to recognize Israel is actually not the bad guy. Iran is the bad guy. We should really, really consider signing the Abraham Accords and let's do everything in our power to basically snuff out Iran the easy way or the hard way. At the end of the day, Iran's got to go. The IRGC's got to go and the Middle Eastern countries got to step up in order to do it.

Vinnie,

listen. I I if my opinion Pat there's there's no reason that he because they've reported the CIA is going to be there. Radcliffe is going to be there, FBI, ODNI, DHS. This isn't going to be some rinky dink, you know, h speech about me and Tom talked about this yesterday, Pat. I think it's going to be serious. And you know it's serious when people like AOC and the left don't want it to come out. This they have an ethical obligation, the networks, not to air his speech. So they know what's coming. Okay. Okay. And if I had to guess, and this is my opinion, Pat, the allegations are going to be about China and their involvement. Tom, you mentioned Waro and also Patan. I've been saying this for years, and I know I've been saying it on this podcast. I believe, my opinion, that China is our enemy. They're not our adversary. They're our enemy. And I think the deep state with them, you want to talk about collusion, I think COVID wasn't by accident. It was released on purpose, Pat, because of the attitude that Trump had towards China, with the trade, with the tariffs. And all of a sudden in an election year, Tommy, a freaking virus comes out of a lab that Fouchy, who got a freaking blanket 10-year pardon comes out and nobody gets in trouble for it. I think that's what's going to happen, Pat. And I think it's going to be tied to somewhat with the Save Act because let's just be honest, the left cheats. And if they're not going to win, that's why the Save Act is not getting passed. They don't want to have any ideas for any voters, Pat. And guess what? If they don't like you, they will threaten you. They will try to assassinate you. Look at Trump. And look at even our Supreme Court justices. We just had that conversation. They will threaten you and try to scare you into voting and helping them out.

Yeah, I I agree. I agree. I think

Can I ask you a question, Pat?

Go for it.

I'm sorry. Were you about to say something?

I was just going to show what AOC said here. If you want to play this clip, AOC on Trump and Adam, I'll come to you. Go for it. Watch this, folks.

Speech speech. You know, he's basically doing a made for TV broadcast about election fraud and conspiracy theories and all the rest on Thursday. I don't think that we should be contributing to any platforming of um of lies about our election. And so I think that, you know, I mean, many of of

She's so smart.

Many news outlets oftenimes may receive transcripts and I think that we have an ethical obligation to not air uh things that undermine our election that are not rooted in

fact. Did you hear how but by the way, did you guys notice, Adam, not to cut you off really fast, the bias in the question. SO ALL THE YES, MIDAS is touching, but it's it's like they're leading her like all the conspiracy and everything. She's obviously they're giving her a softball that she couldn't even hit. She's bumbling as a as an answer.

Adam,

yeah, I agree with Vinnie on that. I want AOC to talk publicly way more often. I don't hear enough from her cuz the more that she talks, she just exposes herself. I want the DSA out there advocating, trying to rip up the Constitution, so people with common sense will say these people these

Let's see. I hope she is. I I swear that. But PBD, I I I I could be wrong on this. Why is Trump continuing to go back to the Georgia election fraud situation? There may be something there. I'm not saying there's not, but do you think that's a winning message while they're going into midterms? Do you think that's what the average voter cares about at this point? Well, you know, they say he's playing 3D chess. What do you think Trump is doing on this?

Well, I mean, you have to realize he he got one of the big things that they wanted to pass that didn't pass, and it was voter ID. And yesterday, JD Vance is on Rogan, and one of the main topics is what? voter ID.

Yes.

And so why are they talking about voter ID?

Why why is that coming? Here's a clip if you want to play it. Watch this.

And I think they cheat and I I think they've been doing it forever. And I don't think there's any other reason why you would have no voter ID. And they try to say, "Oh, it's racist to have voter ID." Like, what are you talking about? Do you think other races are incapable of going to the DMV? That's insane.

It's that's that's racist.

Actually super racist. The implication of their argument is literally like blacks and Hispanics cannot go to the DMV to get an ID. By the way, if you look at the polling, black Americans are as pro- voter ID. Even though, you know, most black Americans vote Democrat, they're still pro- voter ID as much as integrity. Most right. So, you're asking the question, why is he going back to Georgia?

Uh, so go to the, you know, seven states that are going to matter, right? go to what happened with Osaf being somebody that potentially could be a candidate on the left. You keep hearing about this guy named Osaf who's a rising star. That name is coming up all the flipping time. This guy's a sequencing guy. He's not doing this for

the hell of it. Voter ID didn't go through. Midterms are around the corner. And if they have something, well then show it. Show it if they have something. If they have something, show it. But if they keep going to it without being able to show anything, it's going to be it's going to backfire on them. So maybe they have something today because one of the things they're talking about is a is an executive decision that he may be making tonight as that he's announcing and no one really fully knows what that's going to be about.

And and Pat just and Adam, why it's so important? Republican Georgia, you know why it's so significant? In 2020, the margin was 12,000 votes. Like that's not something small. And if you look back, bro, they were covering up the voting thing. They didn't want people to look at the voters, all the late night drops. And by the way, going back to CO, CO was just a mail-in ballot freaking scam. It's like, dude, it's very, very important. And I know, and again, I saw the parts of the podcast with Joe. He's right. They're cheating, bro. If you don't want people to see you voting, I mean, counting the votes, you're hiding something. You're cheating. If you don't want to check people's ID and you had an open border for four years, g Give me another excuse. Give me give me something that's not cheating. Like bring in 8 million people and then how dare it's illegal to ask for their IDs. It's simple.

For me, voter ID is a top three issue. I voter ID is a top three issue. So for him, he has to keep that in there lingering for that to eventually click. If I asked you eight years ago, you think Dobs is ever going to pass and change? I I'm willing to bet 80% would say hell no. Guess what? He pulled that off. Not easy. Amy Coney Barrett was a part of that. And now he has to create a little bit more pressure for people to say, you know, I think something could happen with that. By the way, the based on Kowi, uh here's what Khi has on what he's going to be talking about tonight. It's $723,000. If you haven't placed a position, you may want to go on Couch and take a look at this and create an account. But uh what is at the top? At the top, it's what? What's the blue? Uh uh. Elections. 97% chance he's going to talk about election. Save America Act. Makes sense to me. Democrats, Chinese, China, >> Biden, deal, settle, nuclear, oil, communist, communism, Venezuela. Hottest. Oh, these are words that he's going to be using the most. That is so funny.

Huge is not on there. Alien blockade. I'm surprised Huge didn't make it. I'm surprised Huge didn't make it. Um, Adam, did you have a followup?

No, I just number one, you answered my question because I think I said what you're saying is it's a means to an end. It's really not about the Georgia thing. No, it's not about voter ID. The Georgia opens the window to talking about the savings. I think that's what you're saying.

I think so. Yeah, it's a good question you're asking and and I I think I would do that if I'm in a position like that. I'm going to be like, "Guys, no, no, this story can't go away." No, no, keep it in there. Keep it in there. Keep keep the mouthpieces debating this and arguing this. Let Let's keep that story going. That's what I think. Let's go to the next one. Next one I want to get into is >> open AI allegedly stole from Apple. And they're calling this industrial espionage. That was the word that Tom was using. He's like, Pat, this is this is industrial espionage. And so it's it's a very big story. Let me let me I'll go through the addendum first and I'll go to the other one. Uh uh I think page 24. Is that the one, Tom? What page do you have it on? uh on this story. This is a massive massive story.

Main 10 is where it starts for you. It's main 10. Uh see, I don't have it on my main 10. Can I get your notes? Mine doesn't say main 10. So, I I went to main 10 and I don't have it. Uh which one do you have as main 10? Okay, let me read this to you. Apple sues OpenAI alleging trade secret theft. Says scheme was at every level. CNBC story. Apple on Friday sued open AI in federal court in Northern California alleging trade secret theft saying that the artificial intelligence lab took the iPhone's marker intellectual property in order to develop its own consumer hardware. This much is clear however at every level from members of its technical staff to its chief trade secrets and confidential information. The company said in a legal filing, "It's a shocking reversal for the two companies, which entered into a high-profile partnership in 2024 when CHBT was integrated into the iPhone's operating system." OpenAI CEO Sam Alman visited Apple's headquarters for the announcement, but relations between the two companies have chilled since OpenAI announced plans to enter the hardware industry last year when it bought former Apple designer John IV startup called IO product for $6.4 $44 billion. Apple's updated version of its Sirius system which is coming out this fall is based on Google's Gemini models instead of Chad GB. Most of Apple's allegations involve former employees who have interviewed who with or join OpenAI. Apple alleges that OpenAI's chief hardware officer Tank Tan who is a former Apple vice president has directed Apple employees interviewing at OpenAI to share Apple secrets as part of the interviewing process. what he has directed job candidates still working at Apple to bring actual parts from Apple to their interviews for showand tell sessions in which he and his team at OpenAI can elicit still more Apple confidential information Apple said in the filing that is insane Tom your thoughts on the story.

So this is this is going to get really really big and the question is going to be who's got the biggest lobbyist or the biggest um proxy um balls with the Department of Justice and the Department of and the Federal Trade Commission. I'll tell you why. So, on one hand, they're saying, "Oh, no, no, no." In an interview, like I'm interviewing you, Pat. Yep. Hey, Pat. Um, you know, you worked at Apple. Tell me about some of the projects you worked on. Uh, did you really work on it? Were you involved? Are you right? Those are fine questions. That's right. On your resume here, it says you directed the project. Did you direct it or were you just involved? I was I directed the project. These are standard interview, right? You're you're sorting it out because you know Vinnie some people say they did more than they did of course.

Well the line gets crossed is uh do you have any schematics or anything and the allegations are people were encouraged to come to the meeting with printouts or other schematics or things to talk about what they did and then all of a sudden open AI allegedly had suddenly you're in an interview with 10 people supposedly. So if that's what happened that's bad. What's even worse is there are allegations of documentation that they said, "Hey, uh, Vinnie Pat, you know, when you leave Apple, the following three things are going to happen on your laptop with the security team. If you do this, this, and this, you can evade the security detection if you want to, you know, bring any of that with you." Here's what's dangerous about this. What kind of salaries have we been hearing about top hires in Silicon Valley? We've been talking about ridiculous. Ridiculous. Dana White in an interview the other day said he's he sits on a board of Meta. He says Mark Zuckerber is the biggest badass I met in my life. Dana said in an interview he paid four engineers a $65 million a year salary.

What? Did you hear what I just said? Four. Okay, can you find this clip? Meta says four employees. That That's the one right there. Play that clip. Can you make Watch this folks? No. No sound. I just got back from a Meta board meeting. Zuckerberg [snorts] who is a brilliant gangster. This guy is a gangster. These people who who try to talk about him and everything else. I'm so blown away and impressed by this guy. He's an animal. And uh putting all the chips in on AI. We just hired like 10 kids that are aged 22 to 28. The average salary is like $65 million [laughter] that these kids are making that are coming in working on AI. But you hear a lot of negativity about [laughter] AI. There's way more positives about AI than 22 to 28 years old average salary $65 million.

So when when they're trying to hire going on right now in Silicon Valley. So this is what Tom's talking about. So basically the allegation that's even worse, it's bad enough to say, you know, tell me what you did at Apple interview question. Hey, bring a couple things with you and show them to him and all of a sudden you have a panel interview. That's bad. That's illegal. You're putting the applicant in bad situation. And if that's the way it happened, that sort of thing would be illegal. Um, I'm not the judge and jury on this. But then there have been documents and emails found where they told them exactly how to evade Apple security when you leave your job and come over here. And you're talking about, we don't know what the salaries are, but what Dana White was just talking about is just how big the war is for talent. war. And so this thing, this industrial espionage, this is going to be huge. Um, the last time we've seen things this huge, you know, we had a giant one that happened in Formula 1 where Ferrari guys, McLaren guys stole secrets from Ferrari guys, they told the Ferrari guys to go have them printed out at Kinkos when there was a Kinko and then the McLaren guys went in there and faked the ID and picked them up. Wow. So, it was just it's crazy. But industrial estate has been going on for a while. But this is huge. What's also big is a number of people that are lining up against Sam Alman, including Elon Musk.

You have the clip of what he said about Elon Musk. Elon is not a fan of Sam at all. He calls him scam Altman. Yeah, he is not always there. Yeah, he's not. Adam, your thoughts on this?

Yeah, you guys uh you're absolutely right with the Elon thing. You know, when did uh chatbt open eye came out? I think November of 2022. Does that make sense? Since then, I feel like everything with Sam Alman has been drama and beef. You bring up the Elon Musk. He calls him what? Scam Altman. It's interesting. Do you remember? I think Tommy, you remember this. He was CEO. He was fired then rehired. There was also like it was almost like a revolt within the company. Yeah, he meaning Sam. Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson interviewed him and basically kind of was like, "Did you murder one of your employees?" He's like, "What are you what are you insinuating right here? this Bellagi guy if you remember that course it was a suicide it was a delivery weird situation I'm making zero accusations I'm saying that's what Tucker did but now it's not even Apple that's suing him apparently is all these copyright infringements publishers artists musicians authors everything there there's privacy uh concerns Sam Alman, he's got some explaining to do as they say.

By the way, can you do me a favor? This is just the latest thing with Apple and and it and it's around mainly one guy. Can you pull up Tang Tang? A great name. Tang T. It's almost related to Fang. Fang. No, no, the first one. Yeah, there you go. So, who is Tank Tank? So, let me kind of give you an idea. Can you go to images on who this guy is? Go to images. Tank Tang spent 24 years at Apple. No, you the second one is not Tank. The second one is Tank. The second one is missing a G. There you go. Take the G out. There you go. So, that guy right there, go to all and go to his Wikipedia. Spent 24 years at Apple. This the main guy the lawsuit just everybody knows. He joined Apple in the early 2000s, became one of the company's top hardware executives, was widely regarded as part of a generation of leaders who helped shape the iPhone after Steve Jobs. This is a heavyweight. Damn. This guy's a heavyweight. He helped oversee iPhone and Apple Watch hardware. Responsibilities included engineering and product design. He was one of Apple's highest ranking hardware leaders. They have a score like you know how in the military there's sergeant major general be my little general brigadier general is a one star major general is a two star lieutenant gent three star and then general is a fourstar right so this guy's one of the heavyweights there then he left Apple in 24 and he joins Johnny Ives new hardware company which open AI you heard just about for $6.4 $4 billion. Open AAI requires it. And so why is he important? OpenAI wants to build AI device that could someday compete with the iPhone. And so Apple is suing because they're saying you're taking this away. So this guy is the main figurehead of um in this discussion. Uh so it's interesting. It's it's kind of like what happened with when Jake Paul, I believe, recruited Dana White's former CFO that went to him. I don't know if you remember that or not. Jake Paul recruited him. Armenian guy. Oh yeah, he recruited the Armenian guy. Good-looking guy. He got that red jacket on and he's got a it's kind of like a power player. These types of things happened right there. Nakisha uh Bidaran who left there. He was a former UFC CFO from 11 to 2016 and helped orchestrate the historic $4 billion sale to Endeavor. So he then goes and go joins Jake Paul. When this kind of stuff happens, it happens. It happened to us. It happens to everybody. It's just it's going to stuff like this happens. But it's a real real war that is taking place. The problem is the following. Tom, here's the question I got for you.

What major investor influencer that people respect is siding with Sam Alman? Who who is the person that's defending him? I I'm not saying I mean CNBC, Microsoft cuz they own it. But outside of that, I'm saying what other Microsoft is involved with OpenAI if I'm not mistaken. I'm talking about what major mainstream critic is sitting out there and saying, "No, Sam Alman's a good guy. They're doing the right thing." Who's who's on his side?

I'm I'm I haven't seen one. I'm not seeing it. Can't go like that for too long. You you you know, it's kind of like, you know what, open eyes reminded me of Open air is kind of like what Israel is going through. Open AI is losing the propaganda war. And guess what? People don't like you. They're not liking what you're doing. And you can sit there and do whatever you want and act like you're all high and mighty and keep talking trash to Elon. People like Elon. Yeah. And people don't like you. So then the question becomes what? No major tech companies has loudly backed Alman open AI in a specific disputes. That's not good. Nope. That's not good. You have to be good at building relationships behind closed doors for people to defend you. That's horrible. So that means it's kind of like I I work at a place and let's just say something happens, I leave. No one at the previous company is willing to vouch for me. They don't like me. That's not a good thing for you to do. No. How come? And on the only people do are the people that are no longer at the company. You have to have people that vouch for you, but people to say when I left the previous company and I started PHP, there were a lot of people that were still friends with me. I mean, I I like, "Hey, you don't have to worry about me taking clients, me doing this, me." I never took a single person. I left. I'm like, "Hey, I'm just taking what I got here. You guys keep the 7,000 clients." We went and built our business. Still, you met Jeff the other day came to the house. He was part of the company over there. He was an enemy of mine. A lot of So, so to me, I think Altman has to Altman has what what some of these guys have, which is they're not good with people. They're so brilliant that they indirectly don't even know it. They look down at people. Alman needs to go read How to Win Friends and Influence People 50 times. Alman needs to go learn how to be better with people, not robots. You can't befriend robots. They're your slaves. Yeah, you have to befriend people. And he's not good at that. So Sam, if you're watching this, maybe go watch this one. And there's another book that you may want to read as well. Can you go to Power of Ethical Management? [laughter] I think The Power of Ethical Management is a good book recommendation for Sam Alman as well. It's an oldie but a goodie. It's 96 pages, I think. I maybe it's like a 100 pages. Uh yeah, that one right can can you go all the way to the bottom of how many pages it is? So you can finish it fairly in like a 30-minute sit down. What's the number of pages? 144 pages. I was off by 50 pages. Small book, good book, but the power of ethical land management.

The final thing here is like AI is getting a lot of pressure from the government. And these guys are not dumb and they move faster than the government. Dean Ball um started July 6th of this month with with um Open AI. You know who he was from? Where? He was a White House AI adviser and had a career in public policy. So now they have a Washington guy on there as the head of strategic future at OpenAI and Meta hired Dena Powell McCormack which was Trump and George W. Bush adviser on economic policy and brought him in January as president and vice chairman of Meta super intelligence. So they are also going out and getting soldiers from Washington to help them in the war. when the Department of Justice, the Federal Trade Commission saying Open AAI and Meta, those were two key hires just this July.

Let me tell you though, Tom, there's a big difference. Who did you just hear right now going out there and talking about how amazing of a person he is? What clip did I just play of a guy that's loved and respected that just edified Mark Zuckerberg for a good minute? Dana White. Dana White. Sam Alman has to go find three Dana Whites and put them on his board ASAP. He has to do that ASAP. ASAP and pay big money for those people to be sitting on your board and people with high Q scores. He has to get some people like that and desperately give them stocks, options, shares, whatever it is to have a big upside. He's got to go find three people like that. Can you go a little bit lower of Dana? Go a little bit lower of Dana. And you see the pictures that it shows on the bottom right. Keep going. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. Okay. Click on Joe Rogan real quick. Click on Rogan real quick. Just click on Rogan real quick. Uh I'm sorry. Go back and click on see more right there. See more down. See more down there. Right there. Click on that. Uh get somebody. Keep going left. Keep going left. Keep going left. Keep going left. Yeah. You got to get somebody that's You got to get like a Get Mr. Beast and give him a billion dollars. Yeah. Get Mr. Beast and give him a billion dollars in shares to sit on the board. I'm being serious, by the way. I'm I'm actually not you know go look what sports you know who's one of the people that's brought a lot of eyeballs to the entire World Cup. You know who I show speed. Yeah. Have you seen how he's crying with Ronaldo? Hey, please let me lol. I need you to beat Messi and Boom. He posted a clip yesterday. I show speed posted a clip yesterday at the Argentina game. Do you know how many views this clip got? Let me tell you, Vinnie, you're not going to believe how many clips this thing got on YouTube on on Instagram. Okay. I show speed posts a video. I show speed posts a video begging Lamine Lamal to be messy. [clears throat] And this is 17 hours ago. Okay. Do you know how many views it got? I I just want you to tell the people how many views it got. 5.9 mill. Oh, 118 million views. And how many in how many minutes? In how many hours? Can you tell me in how many hours? 17 hours. So, tell me who can get that kind of views. First one right there. Watch this. You're going to say that thing got 117 18 million views in 17 hours. Okay, so pause it right there. I think I think Open AI needs to offer Mr. Beast a 5year 1 billion dollar comp to just sit on the board and get two other guys like that cuz Mr. Beast has got a good following. He's got to get some people like that. He's got to get some people like a Dana White, some major major power players that have credibility. And now the question becomes, should Mr. Be Mr. Beast accept it?

Well, that's what I'm saying. That's a whole different conversation. Anyways, let's go to the next story.

Yes. Oh, no. You want to move on? I just had a quick point that Look, I saw Zuckerberg at the UFC fight. The guy, we're giving him a little too much credit. This guy is just finding out that he's a human. Like, we're Mark Zuckerberg was a was an alien/root for 20 years and all of a sudden he's becoming cool. What's my point with Sam Alman? This guy's been famous for what, three years, four years? that I show speed is a marketing genius. Sam Alman is an actual genius. He's just an introverted nerd like all these Silicon Valley guys. So eventually, yes, I do think he needs to know what your point is and get someone in there. But they were being a little hard on this guy for being an actual genius nerd when they're all like that. That was your point. You you paused and to make that point at him. This guy said, "Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Is Jeff Bezos a nerd? Yeah. And it took him 30 years to actually try to become cool. Oh, no, you don't understand. This guy is hated by all the nerds right now. All of them. Including Tim Cook. He's hated by Cook. Maybe it's beating them. He's not beating them though. He's not. He's lost market share to Anthropic more than you would know. If you go look at what's going on with Anthropic right now, Anthropic is taking his lunch. They used to be at 80 90% of the LLM business. They're not anymore. People don't like this guy. You can't move up without being liked and having some people's skills. No, he he is. You know whose vibe he's giving me? Uh he's giving me vibes of SBF when he was coming up and he thought his [ __ ] didn't stink. That's the vibes he's giving me. Not not the criminal stuff. I'm not I'm not going on the finance. I'm not going from that. Just the vibe of let me tell you who I am. I don't know. I think he's got to make some adjustments. That's my thoughts. Let's go to the next point.

Can I make a final point for you that's on this? Y. So I show speed 110 million views in 24 hours. Yep. Take you know what the record is for Taylor Swift downloads in the first 24 hours of any song. Tell me, Tom. 30 million for Ailia. Let's put that in perspective. To your point, this guy should be big money somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. No. And and and to me to me it's just he and and the only reason I showed I show speed is not complimenting him. It's complimenting Sports Center, ESPN, FIFA that they're using this guy to bring eyeballs to it. It's a smart move. Open AI needs to go get some guys like Dana White. That was a point I was making. So, okay, let's get to the next one. Next business story. Very weird one, guys. IBM, we've heard about IBM for how many decades? Many, many years. Back in the days, IBM was Facebook. Back in the days, IBM was Google. IBM was Microsoft. IBM was what all these companies we talk about today. The first guy was IBM, right? Yesterday, IBM's numbers, you ready? Drops 25% in a single day. Ouch. Okay. 25% in a single day. Let me read these numbers to you and then Tom, I'm going to come to you and Vinnie, please get your reports ready.

I'm I'm so ready. You have no idea. So, IBM ended trading Tuesday down more than 25%. Its worst single day drop since, you ready? 1968, me and Vinnie weren't even born yet. Okay. After the company pre-announced earnings that fell below Wall Street expectations, Blue Big Blue attributed the results to customers shifting spending away from uh software and mainstream mainframe product and uh toward AI servers, memory. Analytics analysts had expected IBM to report adjusted earnings per share EPS of $32 on revenue of 17.86 86 billion, but the company came up short posting adjusted EPS of $2.93 on revenue of $17.2 billion. In a statement, IBM CEO Arvin Krishna said the company was prepared for a low singledigit decline in its Z17 mainframe business for the quarter, but the results were far from worse than projected and are at least partially related to the global memory shortage. In the last few weeks of June, we saw clients shift their quarterly capital expenditure towards server storage and memory purchase to secure supply constraint infrastructure ahead of expected price increases. He said this dynamic impact client buying patterns while we anticipate some supply chain related impact in our expectations. We did not anticipate the magnitude of the capeex rep prioritization. he added. IDC's Asha Natkari, who leads the firm's Enterprise Infrastructure Global Research Group, wrote in a note that Wall Street's reaction uh to Krishna's warning was likely stronger than warranted. Tom, your thoughts on this? [clears throat]

Well, first of all, you know what? Um Arvin Krishna just didn't do a good earnings report. He didn't do a good job of of putting it together. Now, they'll tell you, "Oh, no, no, no, no. We wrote the release. Be careful with the comments." And they go out there. But all these comments is what makes stock go up and down on confidence and future guidance. It's confidence and future guidance. So Vinnie, I'll be head of General Motors, you be an investor, okay? And you tell me if you're going to tell everybody to sell my shares or buy my shares, and I'm going to put it in and take all of this technical knowledge, I'm going to put it in terms you understand. Yeah. We here at um General Motors, we find that people aren't buying Corvettes anymore and we're having a little trouble at the factory. We can't get engines and um we don't make EVs and they seem popular, but everything's okay. I don't trust you. I don't trust you. Exactly. So, I'm going to take off the technobabble. And that's what IBM said. We have a product that's going away. Mainframes, it's starting to shift. Memory chips are in shortage. We can't get them. And there's things we don't make. you know, we got to get to a servers in the sky, AI servers. So, that's what happened. But there's something else on the backdrop that's been frustrating. What are the core that makes a company great? It's people. It's people. We're discovering ju just we've been sitting here in Rhode Island for a week and a half and we're, you know, Pat and I have had these conversations about people. We need great people doing great things and we see things that are going on and we see the danger of, you know, Sam Alman not having a guy that everybody's rallying around your leader from the outside. IBM has been going through a change. Its own people are referring to it as Indian business machines rather than international business machines. Do you know what the wild shift is? So IBM USA, IBM India, here's a quiz for you. One of them has 40,000 employees. One of them has 135,000 employees. Which is which? I think the Indian one has 140. I think it's the other way around. India has 135,000 employees. IBM USA only has 40,000 employees. It's been shifting. It's been shifting on H1Bs. India, how many job open job openings US and India? Which number is which? For IBM. for IBM 376 job openings and 28 2,840 job openings this morning I checked in India which one's India which one's USA 9x 9x more is India correct India 2840 job openings for IBM in India 376 available in the USA people are furious and there's been a steady flow of people that have been writing on Reddit not screaming at their employer you would you scream at your previous employer on Facebook or X or something you can expect to get a letter or get sued because especially if you disparage them, you do something really bad. That's dumb. Well, guess what? There are ex IBM employees that are on Reddit saying very gently saying, "Listen guys, um I just trained two people in India and then I was laid off a year later and they gave me six months salary, but I basically trade trained people that were going to replace me." And we're hearing about it all across IBM. So, it's not just IBM here. IBM also right now has a loyalty and an overall morale problem. And they'll probably see this podcast, Pat, and publish a bunch of stuff out there, but the number of articles and a number of things on Reddit is overwhelming. There's more to it than just this earnings report. IBM has got some issues inside and a lot of people are saying, "Maybe I don't want to be here." And there's only 40,000.

Let me ask this question. Let me ask my dad worked for IBM in 1968. Here's a question for you. They lost $72 billion of market cap in two days. That's a lot. 72 billion in market cap. IBM loss and can you pull up their stock? They lost $72 billion of market cap in two days. That's a lot of money. Here's my question for you. When when you read uh I've been just in in reading mode while we're out here, what what is there? Is that what one day? Go to 5 days. Go to 5 days. That's one day. Go to 5 days. Look at that. I should start buying. Look at that. Yeah. Can you spot when the CEO spoke? Can you do me a favor? Go to one year. Can you go to one year? Bam. So, go to five years. So, it's still higher than what it was five years ago. Yeah. Yeah. They rode the AI wave. Yeah. But now, yeah. They So, so, so then Tom, here's my question for you with IBM. What is their flagship product? What is the product they have that beats everybody else in the marketplace? It used to be the mainframe computer and high-end consulting to go with the use of the mainframe computer because they have not used to. I want to know today, what is their flagship product that they're the market leader ahead of everybody? I don't even do they even have one? No, they for sure do. It's not you're not going to be a $200 billion company without having that. So, what what is that product, Tom? Where do they win? I thought they doesn't have a single consumer style hero product. Um IBM current story um IBM Z main frames, Red Hat, Open Shift, and Watson Sonx. I want to know their number one flagship product that brings a big chunk of the revenue. Uh uh okay so I just typed in right now what are IBM's biggest customers? Their biggest customer is JP Morgan Chase. One of IBM's biggest financial customers uh uses IBM mainframes cloud AI security and consulting. Their annual money that they spend just JP Morgan Chase with IBM is somewhere around a billion dollars. Okay. Bank of America is number two. Uh they use the IBM mainframe software consulting customers few hundred million annually. City Group few hund million Verizon few hund million AT&T few hund million and then you got US federal government uses defense civilian agencies cloud consulting cyber security billion over multiple contracts Deutsche Bank HSBC Volkswagen all of these guys have multi-million dollar contracts which product brings the biggest percentage of revenue every year to IBM which product is that I I I want to know because there's a story I believe it's the mainframe business there's a story of uh IBM software approximately $ 8.6 $6 billion in 2026. This is the transaction processing single largest software category they have. Number two is the Red Hat hybrid cloud brings in roughly $7.3 billion in 2025 and then uh IBM brought Red Hat for about $34 billion what they bought in 2019 betting it would become the bridge between the old enterprises and then consulting which brings 21 billion. So consulting is still a big part of IBM's then a mainframe brings 10.6 billion. It's interesting where mainframe consulting that makes them tons of money. Yeah. I I remember reading a book called um uh co excellence and in the book if you remember this it tells the story of what Andy Grove did. I don't know if you remember that Tom the story with Andy Grove and where he and the former CFO CEO of uh former CEO of uh what's the company's called? Uh is this it? There it is. Former CEO of u um Intel. They're sitting there having a conversation together and Andy Grove, one of their divisions, I think, went from $198 million, Vinnie, to $2 million. Let me say that one more time. They went from $198 million to $2 million. One of his divisions of Intel in this book, this is how he writes it. The president of the company at the time, Andy Grove, asked CEO Gordon Moore, "If we got kicked out and the board brought in a new CEO, what do you think they would do?" Moore, the CEO Gordon Moore, he is the guy. He said, "They would get us out of the memory chips game." Grove stared at him and said, "Why shouldn't you and I walk out the door, come back, and do it ourselves?" The rest is history. Intel exited the DRAM memory chips business, and staked its future on a new product, a microprocessor. In doing so, Intel helped usher in the computer age and had a run of success that lasted for decades. I think the scary thing with IBM right now is IBM has to kind of ask themselves, what's next? What is next? What what business do they need to get out of? What business do they need to get in that they're not? They got to make some decisions here because for you to go through a $72 billion in 48 hours, and don't get me wrong, I mean, they're going to be fine. IBM is IBM. It's not like tomorrow something's going to happen to them. This is more like a two decade type of a thing that we're talking about. Tom, looks like you want to say something.

Yeah. No, and the time you're talking about is when IBM made a major shift from old mainframes to new mainframes. And IBM also created the Windtel standard, Windows and Intel. It's exactly the sequence you're talking about. And it was a big milestone for IBM. And by the way, Microsoft, there were two guys at IBM. Uh, one of them did not want to give Microsoft the operating system. Did not. And the other was uh Don Don Estridge did not and there was one guy that did. Don Estridge would die in the Delta Airlines windshare flight that crashed in Dallas in 1985. I know this whole story. There's a whole high school named for him in Boca Raton. And when he died, the other guy was left and he gave the business to Microsoft. If it's not for that windshare flight in 1985, IBM would have made its own operating system because that kicked off Microsoft. And so IBM shifted at that time to the person good or bad move. It was ended up being a good move for IBM to shift but they later got out of the business as it became a commodity. They were never competing with Apple. Apple was always the artsy and other side of it and education but it was it showed that IBM and Lewis Gersner wrote a book teaching an elephant to dance was a great book about IBM. So I I think they'll be back but right now they're in the middle of a shift. They're another shift and they got to they got to pick a side and they got to move forward. Adam,

I I'll add something. I got to be honest with you. When we first started talking about this, I was like, "Yeah, I don't really IBM, whatever." What I realized something because I think this is what you were getting at and it's the whole concept of reinventing yourself because to me IBM is like the the guy like Al Bundy who scored four touchdowns in high school and was like the best player in his town and went on to play college, but now all these other guys are playing in the NFL and they lapped him. IBM got lapped. I mean look at all the tech companies. Nvidia, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, uh Tesla, all these big tech companies were started decades after IBM. So it to the average person out there, you might have had success 10 years ago, 20 years ago, and you're still kind of like, that's me. I'm that guy. I'm Al Bundy. I scored four touchdowns. I think Pat, what you're kind of getting is you got to reinvent yourself and you got to be known for one thing. The fact that we all collectively using our brain power didn't know what IBM's flagship product was is is a telltale sign. IBM, you got a problem, buddy. We're not we're not in this space. I guarantee if I asked the people that are in the space, they would be able to say it within a heartbeat of who it is. But again, I think they're going to be fine. You know, the typically when people that are involved in a situation like this, they'll make adjustments. Hopefully, they will. Let me get to the next story. Next story I want to get into is what just happened with New York and data centers. And New York became the first state to come out uh impose AI data center ban and a lot of people are conflicted and people are saying wait a minute am I about to support Hokll for the decision that they're making and where they're going with this? Kathy Hokll imposed a one-year moratorum on new data centers requiring at least 50 megawatts of power, making New York the first state with a statewide ban. Hokll said hypers scale AI facilities threatened to exceed grid capacity and m and pass higher electricity cost to residents. New York's average residential power price uh has increased nearly 68% since 2019. Whether that's tied to data centers or not, that's a different story. data centers have faced growing opposition over their electricity and freshwater consumption with proposed projects drawn protests in communities including Lancync and East uh Fishkill. Uh environmental groups and Democratic lawmakers praised the pause arguing the New York need guarantees that data centers will not raise bills pollute aerrow water weaken grid uh uh reliability. A June Sienna poll found 46% of New Yorkers considered a one-year moratorium beneficial compared to 21% who opposed it support cross party lines with Democratic backing it by 37% points and Republicans by 13%. 14 state legislators have introduced restrictions on state data centers construction, but none has enacted a statewide moratorium. Democratic governors in Maine and Virginia have cautioned against similar bans. Tom, is this a good thing or a bad thing? And why?

This is a bad thing. And um I I can't I don't understand what Kathy Hokll is talking about. I'm sure she's done some good things. I'll list them here. Okay, that's a list. Now, I'll go to this part of it. Is I'm not trying to be funny, but I'm honestly saying, what has Kathy Hokll done for the people of New York in this? I I'm gonna make one simple comparison. Did the United States of America during the um 2020 election was Tik Tok taking all of you know what? Oh my gosh, they're taking data from our kids' phones and from us and on family cloud accounts and Tik Tok is taking data back to China. Was that a big deal, Pat? Tik Tok? Yeah, Tik Tok's taking our data back to China. Okay, well then let's not build data centers here. We'll just use the ones in China. Really? Are you insane? And so she's missing an opportunity here. And the opportunity is one we talk about to come forward and to build the infrastructure for the state of New York and to simply do it this way. I've brought it up before. Data centers. You have to build your own electrical infrastructure or contribute to the overbuild and retrofit of ours. Step one, you can put small nukes there. We'll go to the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and Department of Energy and we'll help you get next generation permits so you can put a small nuke there. And by the way, one condition, if there's a blizzard or something like that, you have to be available to switch your power from your nuke onto the grid so you could help citizens in time of a civil emergency. Step one. Step two, we got to figure out how do we get different kinds of cooling? How does the state of New York maybe give some credits to companies that right now, Pat, there are companies right now that are being hatched and venture funded trying to figure out advanced cooling solutions for data centers. You want to know why? Because if we can make this work and we could sell it to one, we could sell billions and billions and billions of dollars of next generation cooling and and use less water. It's all out there. She's missing an opportunity to put the state of New York in a leadership position. But while she's trying to knee-jerk and saying, "Well, if your power is going up, there's an election coming up. No data centers. Data centers bad." Whether rather than coming back and saying, "Hey, we're going to put this on the ballot. We want you to vote for it." Data centers in the state of New York will be required to build their own power and find alternative cooling within 36 months of launching. And by the way, the decibel rating on the outside of the data center can ex exceed this. Entrepreneurs when given constraints, you know what they do? They invent solutions. That's what I think. I think this is a populous move, Pat. And if you're trying to chase more people out of the state and you're trying then you make errors on tax. But if you're trying to do things for people staying in the state, this is not the way to do it. Especially when we were all freaked out about Tik Tok taking our data and now we're going to say no data center here, here, and here. The data is going to go somewhere, folks. It's going to end up in China.

Yeah. So, the people that agree and disagree, Bernie's for it, very sympathetic, AOC, environmental groups, some local community groups because the noise, land use, stuff like that. people who are obviously against it is Trump data center developers data center coalition and many of the business groups and guys that are in the business space uh uh but but if let's just say you so now this becomes one of the decisions where you got to make as a state and some states are going to be like no to data centers all right guess what opportunity that creates for some states to say what we are with the following three guidelines that you follow okay guess what let's take our talents to Miami, you know, let's take our talents to Tennessee. Let's take our talents to Idaho and and what what could those restrictions be? Maybe put it a certain amount of miles away.

From a nearest city that's got 20,000 population and put you got to be 20 miles away from it. You got to be 40 miles away from there's plenty of states that you can go to and do stuff that has plenty of land that's away from individuals. Adam, where are you at with this, Adam?

Pat, I got to tell you, Tom nailed it. Uh, being anti-AI, being anti-data center is like being anti-internet in the early 2000s. Yeah, I don't I don't like this internet thing. Well, I don't know what this email thing is. Can't have that. Taking all the energy. It's like, yeah, we're going to change the world with the internet email. Get on board. So, you can't put the genie back in the bottle. It's inevitable. So, what they're trying to do in New York here is a one-year moratorium. Okay. In in one year we'll consider doing this. It's inevitable. John Federman said, "Listen, if you continue to do this, who's going to win? China's going to win." But New York has a history of doing this. AOC 5 years ago was like, "Yeah, we don't need high-paying jobs from Amazon. We don't want that here in in the Bronx. Get that out of here." Mom Donnie is doing his best to just take all the wealth out of New York and bring it to Miami. So, thank you for that, Mom Donnie. And now Kathy Hokll is basically saying, "I'm going to be an ostrich. Put my head in the sand, pretend that AI and data centers don't exist, play it as the boogeyman to maybe win an election, but at the end of the day, we all know this is inevitable. Data centers are coming. We need this for our country if we're going to compete with the rest of the world and specifically China. So, we need this."

All right. So, we'll see. That's uh Adam's uh analysis for us on data centers and we'll see what that's going to do for us. But, uh we'll be hanging tight. Um, next story is this same-sex uh uh refused to take the baby from a surrogate because she did not want to abort the baby. I mean, this this is when I'm reading this story to you, there's a part of me it's like, wait a minute, is this real story that I'm reading? It's a real story. So, let me give you the facts and then we'll get into it because there's a lot of uh uh angles this can go.

So, a same-sex couple sue surrogate who refused to abort their 2-year-old son over a minor birth defect. Okay. And this is a New York Post story. Vinnie, I'm going to come to you first on this one. So, a Canadian couple is suing the surrogate who carried their 2-year-old, now 2-year-old son after she refused their request of terminating the pregnancy over a cleft lip and possible minor heart defect. The lawsuit filed in Ontario Superior Court in May alleges the surrogate failed to keep the parents adequately informed, endangered the child, violated confidentiality, and caused emotional distress. The filing does not specifically specify damages, but the surrogate said the couple indicated they were seeking approximately $600,000. "They didn't get the perfect child they wanted, and they threw me away," she said. The surrogate conceived through IVF using a donated egg and embryos created with both men's sperm. Oh my goodness. Their relationship deteriorated in June of 2024 after an ultrasound at 22 weeks indicated a cleft lip and possible cleft palate and minor heart defects. Citing their surrogacy agreement, the couple requested an abortion. The surrogate said she would have terminated a pregnancy if the child were unlikely to survive but would not do it for a largely cosmetic and treatable condition. The couple agreed to continue the pregnancy after Mount Sinai Hospital doctors determined the baby was generally healthy. Tensions resurfaced when the surrogate insisted on a midwife-assisted home birth. Despite the parents' request for hospital delivery, the baby experienced breathing difficulties but recovered after receiving oxygen and was taken to a hospital by ambulance. After taking their son home, the parents ended contact with the surrogate. She sought roughly $10,000 in unpaid expenses, lost wages, transportation costs, and missed pension contributions. When she pursued the dispute in small claims court, she learned the contract required arbitration and was subsequently sued for $600,000.

Vinnie, uh uh God bless her and good for her, Pat. Like, this is exactly what happens when we start treating children like freaking property instead of people. You already know where I stand 'cause me and you are on the same spot against, you know, the gay couples that are buying these kids and doing all this money and trying to... No, I'm not a fan of it at all. Okay? You can sign a contract with a surrogate. You can enter into legal agreements. You can negotiate responsibilities and financial obligations. But the moment that new life is created, it's no longer subject to a contract. Okay? That child that you're doing this and your sperm and his sperm and and a woman, that belongs to God now. And you already know where I stand, Pat. Every child is made, every one of us, every child is made in the image of God. A cleft lip doesn't erase that. Okay? It doesn't reduce the child's value. It doesn't justify murdering this thing because, oh, the the dynamics of the kid are not the way that I want it. Since when did a birth defect become something to like you have to live or die? It starts with a cleft lip and then, you know, next is Down Syndrome. Next is something, oh, his foot is different. I don't like it. They're not custom orders. This isn't freaking Amazon. This isn't Build-a-Bear, okay? They're not products that can be rejected. Pat, thank God. Thank God. And I'm assuming hopefully she's a Christian. She stood up and she had the the courage to stand on her convictions and say no. Okay? And because of her, that little boy is alive today. And and I think murder shouldn't be an option. Murder should not be an option. Okay? God doesn't give any of us anything that we can't handle. Okay? And there's surgeries that you can do. I I've seen multiple multiple websites where doctors that they can fix, they can try to help that cleft lip, Pat, and that's why we have to fight. And again, going back to the Roe versus Wade, you know, dos and all that stuff. If it's not us fighting for these children, Pat, who's going to do it? They can't speak for themselves. They can't do it. We have to defend them.

Tom, what do you have with this?

Um, [clears throat] well, let me give you some some names here. Jesse Jackson, uh, rumored Winston Churchill, Lee Raymond, who was the chairman and CEO of, um, Exxon, that built it in the largest in the largest most profitable company in the world at the time. They all were born with cleft lips. You may not agree with Jesse Jackson or agree with Lee Raymond, the industrialist. And the Winston Churchill thing is a little bit disputed, but what if we just started erasing people from history or never having them at all? Because when a baby is born, it's snuffed out because it's deemed to be not perfect. Look at the people over time that we wouldn't have had. By the way, the scans of the sarcophagus seem to indicate that King Tut possibly not only had a cleft lip but a full cleft palate. And so if you want to if you want to just, you know, go for surrogacy and then eliminate people with even the most minor of defects, you are missing the opportunity to see how that person grows up under the leadership of loving parents and who want the child and maybe overcomes the deficiency or a thing like this to just be an just an absolute beacon to the rest of us on on the the absolute amazing human spirit of achievement and overcoming disability and and things. We miss that opportunity. We miss that episode. We all look like 1970s the the Stepford Wives that were all like robotic and all looked alike. I'm sorry. The diversity that is among us racially, ethnically was all ordained by God and we're missing opportunities. And this just shows when you turn having a child into buying a coach purse that, oh, this one's got a, can I get a discount? This one's got a little defect on it. It just it disgusts me because you're playing with God. You're not playing with us. You're playing you're playing with a a program above your pay grade.

Adam,

I I fully agree with Tom and Vinnie that this story is getting me more upset the more that we talk about it because as we're kind of kind of like peeling the onion and seeing what's going on here, these two gay men. "Designer baby," uh, by the way, the child's right. The child's a human now, two years old. He might end up hearing this story that his parents wanted him aborted. And as you as you peel back the onion, at 22 weeks, they wanted her to abort the child because he had a potential cleft lip. Is that what it was, guys? Yep. And 22 weeks, listen, you're over halfway there. That baby, if you see the image, is a full-on human at that point. [clears throat] This is no longer an embryo. You can't even make the debate. Do you, by the way, do you know what percentage of abortions are done after 20 weeks? 1%. So the the biggest thing here is you have these two gay men who have no idea what it's like for this woman to be pregnant. She obviously has an emotional attachment to it. She's like, "Yeah, I'm not going to abort the baby because it may have a cleft lip." And you can just see these gays going, "Yeah, we want that baby gone. Are you kidding me?" And now then they stiff her for 10 grand because they owed her money. And now they're suing her for 600 grand because the child that they wanted is alive. This is the most backward story. I'm so glad we're highlighting this and I would love to shine a spotlight on these two gay guys with their designer baby.

Yeah. I mean, look, simplest way to do it. Don't allow it. Simplest way to do it is don't allow it. Don't allow it. Make the decision to be different. Uh when it comes out to getting babies, I'm not comfortable. I've never been comfortable with that. That position for me is not going to change of where I'm at with it. It's going to stay the same way that it is. So, uh, good for the lady, whoever it is. If she is watching or if you know who she is, share this with her. She contacts us. I'd love to find a way to make something good for her.

So, if you know who she is and she's comfortable being public, we will keep her name private. I would love to find a way to help her out as she's going through this challenge in financial times with even if it's something small that we can help her out with. So, I don't know who she is, but uh if you know her, please have her reach out to us. By the way, thanks to modern thanks to modern medicine, a child born due to an injury to the mother, not an illness to the child, at 22 weeks has a 35% chance of survival. So, there's a one in three chance that if that baby was born because the mom had some sort of an injury, the baby wasn't sick, that modern medicine could take it to full survivability and survival.

No, this is devastating. When you read these, it's... We hate to read the story, but we got to read the story for people to know what's going on out there for us to keep these types of stories out there. All right, let me get to the next one here. Next story I want to get into is a little bit more of a light-hearted story, is maybe not for some. France lost yesterday to Spain and not yesterday, two days ago. Yeah, France lost to Spain, which I'm not a fan of because Spain to me is the most boring uh team that's out there. I know Tom's a diehard fan of Spain. Keeps defending them non-stop. [laughter] Spain, Argentina, exciting team. I'm not a soccer guy. Down one zero at the 80-something minute mark. And then all of a sudden Messi gets two assists and they end up winning the whole thing two to one. So now the finals are going to be Argentina against uh uh Spain, which it's it's an interesting matchup. They say all the Muslim countries are officially eliminated from the World Cup. England is out. So [laughter] that was like a massive story when you're talking about England being gone. Uh but, you know, Lam Lamal is a superstar and he's a, you know, he's a guy that's very capable. For the first time, I saw how capable he was and how aggressive he was playing. He went after Mbappé. He was not afraid. But there's a picture of the significance of this that Vinnie showed to us early this morning. Look at this picture, folks. If you go and see this picture, it's Messi having a picture with Lamin Lamal when he was a baby. I you almost can't even believe it when you're taking a look at this.

What am I? Is it It's It's Messi. It's almost like he's giving him a bath. [laughter] Did you see this? It's like he's giving him a bath with uh Lamal right there. So at first when you showed me this, I'm like, Vinnie, there's no way this is true. [laughter] So this is really Lamine Lamal at 5 months old. Yes. 19 years ago. Has this been fact-checked? Fact-checked. There's a UNICEF charity photo at Camp Nou where Leo Messi was playing for Barcelona. Pat, families entered a raffle. Barcelona players were assigned by random lottery and somehow 20-year-old Messi ended up pairing with this five-month-old baby and that's Lamine Neal right there. Like, and the odds, Pat, go to the odds I sent you. I slacked with the odds. Guess what the odds are of this happening? Some guy broke down everything. Pat, take take a wild guess.

One in four billion.

1 in 625 trillion. This guy did the math. [laughter] Zoom in, zoom in, zoom a little bit. The probability of this happening says you are more than two million times more likely to win the Powerball jackpot than to have the script play out. It is roughly equivalent to picking one specific second out of the 20 million years. [laughter]

One in 625 trillion. Insane.

Wow. And they're facing each other Sunday.

So, so here's here's the question. The challenge is. Bellingham was on a streak of getting two goals back to back. Yes. I I they were they're two inches taller. They're faster. They're stronger. They're younger in every way. On paper, England, even Khi had them at 54 to 46% of England winning, but then some stuff happened. We can't show any of this stuff. At the end of the game, they're giving a high five, all this stuff. The legendary clip is where Bellingham is saying stuff to Messi and Messi eventually goes like this. Okay, no problem. I'm supposed to beat you now. And he goes and beats him. And so, I mean, you you just have to realize imagine the fans who are like, can you go to the I show speed when he's his last clip on his Instagram account. If you go on I show speed's Instagram account.

So he's a big Ronaldo guy. Massive Ronaldo guy. Cannot stand Messi to save his life. And he is there cheering for England. Watch this. Just press the first one. You can show it. It's a public video.

This is England's first goal.

This is England's first goal. [laughter] Now watch what happens.

Such a troll. [cheering]

Wrist. So I get my baby. Yep. There's your beans. First goal. One-1. There's your beans. They're throwing stuff at him. And then they score the second goal. We go.

That's throwing stuff at him.

Okay. So now Messi, you know, Messi is going against Spain, uh, uh, you know, with with all the spectacles and the stories and everything. By the way, Messi did a bunch of different interviews and he says, "I know Spain. I play against those guys. I know what program they're a part of. These are people that I know you can, you know, play against them and you know what they're going to be doing." There was some personal stuff that happened though, politically with Argentina because, you know, the whole war that happened with Argentina and England back in 1982 where they killed 900 people and they took over the island.

That's right. They took over the island and then from there in '86, the Hand of God, you know, it says hey, went from the Hand of God now to the left foot of God, which is Messi being left-footed. And so the guys at the end were holding the banners calling out England. This was the So that's a political statement. So, it was a great game now going into Spain. Um, I don't know. It's going to be wild. Tom, I know you're picking Spain. So, what's your score? What's your prediction with Spain against Argentina?

You keep saying I'm picking Spain. I'm not. I watched them at the end of group. Die-hard Spain fan. Three games at the end of group. They win by a combined score of eight to nothing and no one scored on them and I'm like, they're a machine. But then they look like they were asleep and they barely got through the next two games very tight. And then the machine shows up. So, it's like I don't know what to say, you know. Um, yeah, I I call what I see. I'm not a big football guy, but I'm I look at this. Remember, Spain's only given up one goal. So, if Argentina wins two to one, it means they score two. They double the amount of goals that Spain has given up in the tournament.

Unfortunately, you know, my heart goes one way, but my mental my mental side goes the other way. I think it's 2-1 Spain.

2-1 Spain. Okay. First of all, Argentina had more heart. They played freaking lights out. They were, by the way, the shorter team. What I say yesterday, the first five minutes, you're going to know who's going to set the pace.

Run a poll to see what the audience.

Yeah. And and guess what I saw, Pat? I saw them being physical. They weren't going to get pushed around. It was It was an amazing amazing game. Pat, fate is on freaking they. There's no way there's no way Argentina is going to lose. And I just sent uh Ombretto a link from a guy that posted at 7:28 p.m. July 11th, 2021. And he wrote, "Argentina just beat Spain at the 2026 World Cup final 2-3." And Ombretto, can you show that? Oh, you're...

This is a guy that tweeted.

This is a guy that tweeted. Well, he's running the poll. He wrote, He posted this in in 2021. Argentina just beat Spain.

Look at the date. Zoom in.

Look at that. Argentina just beat Spain at 2026 World Cup final 3-2. July 11, 2021. And this is not the producer of Simpsons.

No, [snorts and laughter] no, no. But Pat, I I don't think that Listen, Spain very technical, very by the book, kind of boring. There's no way it's in Argentina.

What's your score? What's your score?

I don't know if I'm going to go with this guy, but let's just do I'm going to do it. 3-2 Argentina. Let's go.

All right. I don't goals.

Let's go. Yeah. Where you at?

So the question is what? Who's going to win?

Who's going to win? Give us the score.

Okay. Well, we talked about I show speed. I show speed unfortunately is just a hater. So imagine and by the way, he's a very likable guy. But when you're all your passion, can you just hating on the other guy?

Just give me the score first.

Score.

Give me the score first.

Well, I was gonna build up to why I'm gonna give you the score, but I'll just give you the score. The point is Messi's the GOAT and sometimes you just cannot deny greatness. That's my point is it's like you're rooting against Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan don't lose. So I don't know how the how Argentina got here. They beat multiple teams after being down in the last five minutes, two minutes, but Messi continues to pull it off. So stop hating on Argentina. Just appreciate greatness. I think they win 2-1.

Okay, so check this out. Here's Khi. Look at the amount of volume, Vinnie. $1.25 billion dollars and 58% is on Spain.

Yeah. I don't I don't.

58% has Spain.

'Cause those are all Ronaldo fans.

That is insane. And by the way, look at all the money coming left and right. Look at that. $41, $11, $40, $25, $33.

Wow.

By the way, you asked me who I thought was going to win. That's like my prediction market. Where's my heart? My heart is with.

Morocco.

No, my [laughter] Verde Cap Verde.

Canada. You're not supposed to interrupt when I'm about to say Morocco. No, my my heart my heart in this matchup is with Argentina. Seeing Messi, see he's the GOAT. See him go back to back on the way out of his career. That's just amazing to see. This is like Tiger Woods winning the Masters as the last major he ever wins and he's over 40 years old. Yeah. Your heart goes with like the GOATs and the guys that have given us so much to cheer about. My heart Argentina wins.

Tom is just trying to not lose his.

Tom. Change your pick then, buddy. Do it publicly.

Massive Argentinian audience. Mantors.

What is that? So, so they have what percentage?

65 Argentina, 35 Spain. Let's go, boys and girls.

It just means we have an audience that goes, you know, one way. But the the reality of it is it was something very emotional about this guy winning. Oh my god. Something very emotional about the guy winning yesterday. I don't know what it was. They're just you you see the the way they protect him, the way their teammates look at him. The guy scores the header. Instead of people running with the guy who scored the header, they run after Messi. [laughter] That was hilarious. And he gave that pass with a right foot as a lefty. They put him in the complete right side. It's like, why would you put him there? It it was it was unbelievable. So, Spain, uh Spain, Argentina, I think they're both great passers. They're very technical. It's going to be a good matchup, but, you know, the the Kouch's got uh Kouch's got those guys. We'll see what happened. All right, let me do one last story and then we wrap up. So, the last story I'm going to get into. Do you want to do the Pete Hexa story with testosterone or Taco Bell?

Let's do Taco Bell.

Let's go to Taco Bell. So, Taco Bell, you know, is is got some things going on. So, Taco Bell, let me find this story. Is it page 20? Uh, what page do you guys have it on? My notes are are not uh Can you just give me the page that you have 'cause I don't have it on mine?

Page 20.

Main page 20. Let me go to it.

Oh, wait.

Okay. The Taco Bell had a rough situation here, folks. Rough, rough situation. Voluntarily remove some ingredients at select restaurants amid Cyclosporiasis outbreak. Okay. They limited the ingredients at selected restaurants as a precaution during a growing uh uh outbreak. Although public health officials have not linked illness to the company, any restaurant supply or ingredient, Michigan has recorded 3,39 cases since June of 2022, since June 22nd, which is like two weeks ago, including more than 600 added since Monday and at least 44 hospitalizations. The state typically reports approximately 50 cases annually. More current infections are in southeastern Michigan with adults ages 30 to 39 representing the largest group. Vinnie, what's going on here with Taco Bell?

Well, first first of all, if I'm going to be honest, Pat, I've never gone to Taco Bell and not have explosive diarrhea afterwards. I'm pretty sure.

It's permanent for you, no matter what.

No matter. And Ombretto could vouch for this. Like, and this is a true story. I was dealing with constipation. Remember like the last trip that we had? I had to take those. [laughter] No, I'm I'm being dead serious. I had to take Metamucil. Nothing worked. My, you know what my doctor finally said?

What's that?

Go to Taco Bell. Get a Beefy Five Layer Burrito. Get a Baja Blast. I No, Adam. I'm dead serious. And I almost didn't make it home. But, you know what? The the the funniest part about this whole thing, the doctor really said.

The doctor said, "When's the last time you went to Taco Bell?" I said, "Sir, I haven't, you know." He's like, "Go there right now." And it worked. And I'm telling you guys right now, to be honest, this.

Tell me you're joking.

No, I'm dead serious. My doctor, we're like this. Very, very cool. He goes, "Go to." He's like, "When the last time you had a Mexi Melt?" And I was like, "They don't even make them anymore." He goes, "They'll make whatever you want." But you ready for this? This story is not going to change anything. Yesterday, we drove by a Taco Bell line wrapped around the damn building. Americans don't give a damn. Remember 15 years ago, Taco Bell admitted that their beef wasn't it was only 88% beef. The rest of it was binders and seasoning. You know what people said? I don't give a damn. Are you open till 2:00 in the morning? Yes. Give us some cinnamon twists. I'm going to keep coming to this damn place. I'm telling you right now, even though this is the story, I would still go to Taco Bell. What? You think he's not going to go?

Do you remember the Chihuahua, Yoko Taco? Yeah. Yeah. They sued, didn't like somebody sued because the voice was being offensive or they stopped using the little the little chihuahua. But yeah, Yoko blowing mud.

So, so you know I used to go to Del Taco a lot. Del Taco on their menu. They had the supreme something.

Is it the Del Taco menu that had the supreme burrito something?

Oh, I love that.

Was it Taco Bell or?

They even sold cheeseburgers there?

Go to Taco Go to Del Taco's menu just right there.

Can you go to their menu? There was something they had.

Oh, you're getting me so hungry.

Right there. Keep going, Laura. What is that guy right there? The big one.

The big Oh.

The burrito. Go on the burrito.

Epic. It's an epic burrito.

It says colon cleanse.

Uh, what does it say? Burrito.

Jacked up beans. Patties are.

Epic beef and bean burrito.

That was just ridiculous. I'm going to go to California. So, Adam, who do not eat within one hour of watching World.

What Adam likes to do is Adam likes to drive with Uber drivers who go to Del Taco. [laughter] Bell. But Adam, there you go. Burrito Supreme. Is that Taco Bell or Del Taco?

That's Taco Bell. Apparently, I ate a lot of these back in Glendale days 'cause we had a Taco Bell down the street.

Were you regular?

I've been regular my entire life. I don't have a [laughter] problem with that. It's just I don't need a Taco Bell to help me out. Adam, your thoughts?

Listen, [clears throat] uh that Uber driver situation was the second worst Taco Bell encounter that [clears throat] I've had in the last few months. I don't get why people love Taco Bell. Like my girl loves Taco Bell. I was on my way to her house. She's like, "Can you stop at Taco Bell?" And if you know downtown Miami, there's right after you get off the highway, there's a Taco Bell right there. Never been there in my life. I go into the restaurant 'cause obviously I pulled up in an Uber and I got a different Uber like a man. And I said, "What kind of zombie creature land is going on here? I'm waiting in line here. These two black girls get in a fight. IT'S MY TURN. IT'S MY TURN." I was like, "Where do you got me in here?" I I walked out. Homeless people everywhere. Can I get a dollar? This, that, the other. I said, "Never again. There's two things I've said in my life before. Never again. The Holocaust, going to Taco Bell." I don't get it. I don't understand why they get it. Uh she [laughter] she loves it. It. Being shocked that you have to go to the bathroom right after you go to go to Taco Bell should not be a shocker. That's like saying, "Hey, I just had a New York uh street meat hot dog on the corner. Oh, you hurt your stomach. Hurt your tummy." No kidding. I don't get Taco Bell, but I love my girl, so I'm going to get her the Taco Bell. But for me, never again. By the guy that did that, the odds of the one in 625 trillion just did a really quick one if of how a Holocaust story could come into a Taco Bell diarrhea story and it's one in [laughter] 50 billion.

We pulled it off. Vinnie.

We did it.

We pulled it off. How strongly I feel about Taco Bell.

Tom has a stat like Tom. This is something more serious though.

Wow. This needs some sort of case study here.

Yeah. [laughter] No, I mean I when you when you let me tell you places, Taco Bell, Del Taco, God bless you. By the way, on the state seal of California, they used to joke because they show a Spanish mission and we used to say Taco Bell, you know, part of the state seal in the history of California, which was kind of half true, but hilarious.

But Tom, you had something about the something was in the MIA. Tom, so you said something was in the water though, right, Tom? With the lettuce and this is something something serious though.

Yeah, the the products they're talking about um are susceptible to um, you know, pathogens when water that's contaminated is um irrigates the area within like a week of picking.

Oh, great.

Yeah. So.

So it's and lettuce is what you say 90, how many?

98% water.

90% water. So it's.

Anyway, guys, lunch is on me today. I sent you some Taco [laughter] Bell. I'm going Uber Uber deliver you guys. I know you're in Rhode Island. It'll be there in about 45 minutes. You'll be in the bathroom in 46 minutes.

Okay. All right. So, there you go. We finished with a Taco Bell story. If I was to tell you we're going to finish with a Taco Bell story, I would have said, "You're crazy."

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