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All right, first question from Spookify who's asked, "Thoughts on Anglican churches? Finding it difficult to find a church which follows my beliefs which are the same as what you teach." Now, with Anglican churches, they're a bit of a mixed bag in that you could go to a place like Sydney in Australia and they're quite conservative, very evangelical. They're basically an evangelical church. Um, but then if you go to Brisbane in Australia or other parts of the world, maybe UK, America, a lot of the Anglican churches could be liberal. Not all of them, but a bunch of them are, where they'll have, like in our city, Anglican churches sometimes have the rainbow flags out the front of their churches. They're the ones who ordain women ministers. In fact, in the UK, they've recently uh like who's the top the top dog there? Uh, the bishop of Canterbury would be uh, they've now got a female bishop there. So I would say if you happen to be in a region where they happen to be conservative ones, which is very far and few between, maybe they'll be okay, but probably not the best denomination to be looking for, I would suspect. Um, but check the individual church. Ask them what they whether they think baptism is a whether baptism saves us or is a requirement for salvation. If they say yes, not a good church. Um, let's see. and see if they hold on to solos scripture or scripture being the ultimate authority to check everything with as opposed to tradition. Sometimes in the Anglican tradition they can be putting their tradition um almost on par with scripture and that wouldn't be wouldn't be very good. So yeah, look for I usually recommend Baptist or conservative Presbyterian or maybe non-denominational churches, but check the individual church to see what they teach. Uh, there's no perfect denomination out there that where every church in that denomination is good.

All right, next one from Jezmine. Did God have every bit of our life planned out because I've heard that God knew what problems I would struggle with. Of course, he knew that. He knows the end from the beginning. In fact, we make plans, but the Lord directs the steps, right? So he we can be like, "All right, this is what I plan to do if the Lord wills, but it's ultimately God who's going to even allow you to be alive tomorrow." Which is why James talks about how we shouldn't be boasting about tomorrow. Like tomorrow I'm going to do that. Next day I'm going to do that. Instead, like he tells us to say, "It's if the Lord wills." Let me show you. Come now, you who say today or tomorrow will go into such and such a town. Spend a year there and trade and make a profit. Yet you do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? For you are a mist that appears for a little time and then vanishes. Instead, you ought to say, "If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that." As it is, you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil. So always whenever you make plans, this is not against making plans. It's just remember he he even talks about instead you ought to say this is a plan. So with the caveat, if the Lord wills, this is what I intend to do. If the Lord wills, we will notice the first thing was we will live. Christian, do not assume or presume that you're going to be alive tomorrow on this earth. Do not presume that whatsoever. God could take you home to glory through your sleep tonight and wow, what a blessing that would be. Or he may decide to give you another another day, another five days, 50 years, who knows? And so, we're in the hands of God. And whatever God decides, it's good for you cuz he works everything for the good of those who love him. Romans 8:28. Take that verse to heart. Maybe even memorize it. It's really comforting. And we know that for those who love God, all things work together for good for those who are called according to his purpose. That includes your suffering. That includes your suffering. Which we're like, "No, this is just the good times, right?" Nope. Have a look at this. Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds. For you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness, and that steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing. Also, Romans 5:3, not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope. So take that to heart. So your struggles, your suffering, your persecution that you're going through right now is not meaningless. It is meaningful. Keep that in the back of your mind. This suffering is for my good. It could be keeping you from becoming conceited or pride prideful like uh Paul had the thorn in the flesh to keep him from becoming puffed up with pride. Or it could be God's going to allow you to be a better witness. is that if everything went smooth and dandy for you in life, you might be too worldly, too focused on material possessions, too focused on your career and and not as focused on your Bible or evangelism or prayer or whatever it is. Praise God even for the suffering in the in the sense that it's making you more like Jesus.

Next one from Craig. Hey Ryan, could you help me with First Peter 5:19? Some say it's referring to Jesus proclaiming victory to fallen angels from Noah's time in verse 20. I think you actually mean chapter 3 19, not chapter 5:1 19 because there's only 14 verses in chapter 5, I believe. Anyway, I'm trying to understand Jesus' time in the tomb. All right, so 1 Peter 3:1 19, go to verse 18 just for context. Says here, for Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit. So it's so he's put to death in the flesh but is alive in the spirit, comma, in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison. So while he was in the spirit while his body was dead he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison. Now who what spirits are these? Well the next verse tells us a bit more information. Because they the they refers to the spirits formerly did not obey when God's patience waited in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared. So we see that these spirits are not just like old testament saints or old testament people who lived like throughout that time period. It's people from Noah's day specifically and it's pe well, it's or spirits sorry spirits from Noah's day. Let me get the word get rid of the word people. It doesn't say people. It says spirits. All right. So, it's spirits who were in Noah's day who didn't obey. They didn't obey. Now, th this is all the information we have from this passage about it. Like, who were these spirits? What are those spirits? Now, if you go to Genesis 6:1, it says, "When man began to multiply in the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God sought the daughters of men were attractive, and they took as their wives any they choose." And so, sons of God, if you go look at Job 2:1, it tells us, "Again, there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord." Who are these sons of God? This is not talking about people. This is talking about angels. And so the phrase angels can refer to I mean sons of God can refer to angelic beings either the good angels or in this context it seems to be the fallen angels that these sons of God like sons of God could refer to people as well but just seeming to be how it's used. And I'll give you a couple other passages where this instance is cited. In the New Testament, for example, it seems to be um that it's referring to fallen angels who took on a physical form when they weren't supposed to. Um, we see the Nephilim were on the earth in those days and also afterward when the sons of God came into the daughters of man. So this is not just normal reproduction. This is not just normal. Oh yeah, a man and a woman they find each other attractive and they marry and they have children. That's not that. This seems to be specifically there's this instance where sons of God came into daughters of man and children were born to them. This seems to be a very unique thing. This is not just normal um man and wife thing going on here. This is seeming to be demons take leaving the spiritual realm and taking on a physical form too. um marry these women. Now in the New Testament, we see some further illusion to this in second Peter 2:4 where Peter says, "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment." So we see, hold up. I thought the I thought the demons were still hanging around on the earth. Well, they a lot of them are, but there's certain angels, certain demons who sinned in a particular way that he's already thrown them into hell. And that would make sense that Genesis 6 instance, and that would make sense that they're the spirits who imprisoned that Jesus proclaimed to, not that he preached the gospel to them, preached a way of salvation to them, but proclaimed victory would most likely be a good explanation of what he's doing there. Or even if you go to Jude verse 6, and the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, what would that be? In the spiritual realm, but they went into the physical realm, which they weren't allowed to, but taking a physical form. So, and the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, spiritual realm, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day. that lines up perfectly with 2 Peter 2:4, what we just read before, but then also who Jesus is preaching to. I think that would be a reasonable explanation of what he's talking about. We can get full details in heaven, but I think first of all, so he visited hell. He runs hell. So there during communion, then he otherwise already is present with us. He never leaves us nor forsakes us. He's with us always to the end of the age. His spirit dwells within us, the Holy Spirit. Right? So I would say just because you have phrase this is my body this is my blood does not mean that he's more present in that piece of bread. Instead the piece of bread a beautiful celebration this points us to his body broken and bloodshed and we eat the bread we drink the cup to proclaim the Lord's death until he comes. I like to think about it like what is what is communion? It is a fulfillment of the Passover celebration. In fact that's what they were celebrating at the last supper. Passover and Jesus makes it about him. But if you think about the Passover, whenever they would celebrate that year by year, were they eating the same lamb that was sacrificed at Exodus uh in Exodus 12 when they had the Passover? No, it was a different it was another lamb that pointed them to that first lamb that died in the place of the firstborn for each household. And so then we the bread that we eat is not Jesus specifically. The bread that we eat points us to Jesus. The cup that we drink points us to Christ's blood poured out. But not that he is more there. Now can it sanctify you? Sure. Anything can sanctify. The stream can sanctify you. You doing the dishes at home can sanctify you. So yes, God can use this as a means to sanctify you and to make you remember and all those sort of beautiful things. But I just don't see a biblical case to say he's more present there than he otherwise would be. He's with me always. He'll never leave nor forsake. As scripture says, all right, next one from Patty. Thank you, Patty, for your super chat. Appreciate that. For since in the wisdom of God, the world did not know God through wisdom, it pleased God through the folly of what we preach to save those who believe. I think how many hit something that was funny.

All right, Patty said, "How do we know the difference between Christ take talking to the apostles specifically and all of us?" That's a great question. Very good question. Uh, because um I put up a recent status where you know Bryce Crawford, he put out a post on X just recently saying that oh Mary is our mother. She's a mother to all of us and like just it's crazy, right? I'm praying for him and I'm wanting him to come for a chat. I'd really love to have a, you know, friendly, respectful chat with him and, yeah, help guide him through this that nowhere in scripture does it ever describe Mary as our mother. Now, what Roman Catholics will twist is this. They'll go, "Oh, but at the cross, Jesus said to uh to John, behold your mother." And then to Mary, behold your son. In regards to John and be like, Yeah. And who was Jesus speaking to at the cross? Was it Peter? Was it Andrew? Was was Mary the the mother of Andrew now? No. It's only John. In what sense? Well, because Jesus was going and as a good oldest son. What is he going to do? Entrust his mom to someone he can look after him, someone that he finds trustworthy, which is John, the one whom Jesus loved. That does not mean, therefore, Mary is everyone's mother. He says um, you know, behold your mother to John. It's specifically given to John. You don't apply that to everyone. Or when Jesus says, "Hey disciples, go to this city and you'll find a man carrying a water jar. Go and follow him and he'll he'll tell you where to um celebrate the last supper. Are we supposed to do that?" No. That was a direct instruction just for the apostles. So then how do we know when things are for us? When? Well, just read the context. context usually indicates if it's something specific or if it's more general and would be broadly applied to all Christians. Um, for example, the great commission. Let's go to that. Matthew 28:19 through to 20. Beautiful uh command here of the Lord Jesus where he says, I'll bring it up. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I've commanded you. And behold, I'm with you always. There you go. He's with us. Always to the end of the age. Now, is this only for the apostles? Are they the only ones who are to make disciples and that it's not for us? Read what he said. Teaching them. So, the disciples that you made to observe all that I've commanded you, which would include this very command. The command to go and make disciples and teach and baptize. This command was given to the apostles and therefore is the apostles are to command that for others to do as well which is meaning we are to do it too. So the context will usually determine whether it's just something very specific uh such as when Jesus says don't tell anyone that I've healed you. Well that makes sense. It's just to that man. It's not to us. If you experience a healing from Jesus that doesn't mean you can't tell anyone about it. It was a unique command to that individual that Jesus healed for that time. Even sometimes Jesus like told his disciples, "Don't tell anyone about like the transfiguration, things like that until I've risen from the dead." Like he can tell them, "Be quiet about something for a while and then once I'm gone, then you can publicly proclaim it to the world."

All right, next one. There was a trying to find that comment that I saw from King uh King Forevermore I think it was uh which was he said he was evangelizing to a Catholic um today. I can't find it. But um and the Catholic's like, "Wow, why do they teach us it's more than faith that, you know, faith's not enough to get us to heaven?" And then King's like, "King forever more." So like, "Yeah, exactly. Faith is sufficient. Why do they want to add to it? Faith is enough because Christ is enough. Faith is just resting in what he has done rather than relying on your cooperation, which means to work alongside." Um, oh, there we go. I think I answered that question of John 19. Yeah, I answered that one. That's where behold your mother. Clearly, that's only to John.

All right, next one from Cristiano. Can you explain Matthew 243? Uh, cuz certain people say it shows you can lose your salvation. Let's bring up the verse. It says, "But the one who endures to the end will be saved." Where does this say that you can lose your salvation? That would be to read into the text something that's not there. It's just talking about who are the ones who ultimately going to be saved. It's the one whose faith endures, not somebody who claims to be a Christian for a couple years and then they become an atheist or a Muslim or believes in goes to worksbased salvation. That person's not going to be saved. It doesn't matter if they call themselves a Christian. They're not. Someone who's a genuine Christian is one who has a faith that lasts to the end. Because a faith that's brought about by God is a faith that will be sustained by God. Because we know that he's going to sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. Or as Hebrews 3:14 says, we have come to share in Christ if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end. So those people who don't hold their original confidence firm to the end have therefore not come to share in Christ. You've only come to share in him if you have a faith that lasts. And every true faith does last. Those who give up were those who did not really believe initially.

All right, super chat came in from technical. Thank you so much. Let your speech be gracious seasoned with salt. So that you may know how you ought to answer each person. How do you balance love and not letting people push you around/bending over backwards? I struggle with the latter. Also love the new first Corinthians 1 song. Nearly memorize the chapter. Awesome. 1 Corinthians one. That's I think I just played a small part of that one. That was that's one that's been on a previous album. Yeah, that's that's a really good one. It's a really good way of memorizing scripture, isn't it? By listening to the songs that we have. If you guys haven't started listening to it, I encourage you at just search needgod.net music on YouTube, Spotify, Amazon, all those other other music platforms and you can listen to it there. Now, we are to outdo one another and showing honor. Romans 12. We are to look after each other's needs even more than our own. Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. Philippians 2. Just like our Lord did. Did he not choose to lay aside the glory had up in heaven to come down and humble himself to the point of death, even death on a cross for us? And so let that be a great example of how we are to lay our life down um or serve others, serve our fellow Christian and but then also lay our life down to even reach others for the sake of Jesus. Be a bold witness pointing people to Christ. Now at the same time there's wisdom in knowing okay this person over here is not doing like you don't want to encourage people in sin either in a sense of okay let's say somebody is uh like I say homeless person who comes up and is like they're just wanting money for drugs or for you know drunkenness and things like that that doesn't mean you give them money to support their drug addiction, you should use wisdom to say no. That's not wise. In fact, even if a fellow Christian is getting like really lazy. They got to they're capable, physical, able-bodied, but they're very lazy. And so, they're just smooching off others. Just say, "Give me food. Give me food. Give me food." Smooching off others. What does 2 Thessalonians 3 say? Let him not eat. Whoa. What? Yeah. Because we do not want to encourage laziness. I'll show you. It says verse 10 of chapter 3, for even when we were with you, we would give you this command. This is a command from God, right? By Paul through the Holy Spirit. If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. This is talking about someone who's able-bodied, who can work, it's not like they're physically disabled. Someone who can work but just not willing. They're lazy, slackening off, just like wasting time all day. Well, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work, but busy bodies. Now, such persons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus to do their work quietly and to earn their own living. As for you, brothers, do not grow weary in doing good. If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person and have nothing to do with him that he may be ashamed. Do not regard him as an enemy but warn him as a brother. See that? So there's wisdom here. There's a general principle of we outdo one another in showing honor. We consider others needs more significant than our own our own. But at the same time in the specific scenario if somebody is abusing um your generosity for example and so therefore it's making them lazing lazy. You don't want to facilitate laziness and so use wisdom I think is important. Or if somebody is just like taking up all of your time. Let's say a friend just taking up all your time. So you have zero time to read your Bible anymore cuz your friend's just wanting to pest you with all these things. You can say no. In fact, there is good wisdom to say to to learn the skill of saying no to things because we all have only 24 hours in a day. We do not have unlimited amount of time every day. And so therefore be willing to say yes to many things but also know how to say no to things and juggle your time well. Manage your time well um would be important.

Super chat very generous super chat came in from Charlie. Thank you so much Charlie for that. Appreciate it. Lord and Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen. Hey, thank you so much, Charlie. He says, "Hello, man. I just recently tuned into your streams. Really good stuff. Please keep up the good work." Thank you so much, Charlie, for your encouragement. Great to have you here. I'm glad that you're tuning in now and God brought the feed the stream across uh your path. God, to God be the glory.

This one from wind chimes. If you think Mary had other kids, why does Jesus give John the task of living with her past crucifixion? Like to look after Mary basically. You know why? Because not even the brothers of Jesus believed in him. If you remember, Jesus's brothers were we're basically trying to uh insult Jesus in a way, pay out Jesus. Jesus, you think you're somebody special, then go up to this feast. Go up to the feast and prove yourself to everyone. Like, and it says John gives us a narration there, for not even his brothers believed in him. And so, do you think Jesus is going to entrust himself to pagans, to unbelievers? No. Now it is true that the the brothers of Jesus got saved after the resurrection. Praise God for that. But at the time of the crucifixion, it would be wrong for Jesus to assign his u his mom to these unbelievers who would probably not be caring for her as they ought to. Um, also that might have been something God used to get the the brothers of Jesus to be like, "Wow, our bro didn't even wasn't even willing to entrust our mom to us." Wow. And maybe that was just a huge bit of confession. It could have been. He could have used that. Uh, yeah.

Next one from Kev. I'm kind of torn between two paths right now. I've been asking for signs to know that I'm following God's will. Is it possible that they both are and that's why that he's been silent about it? Can I encourage you not to look for signs? Don't be like Gideon with his fleces. Uh, instead, check with the Bible. Is there anything in the Bible that relates to your decision that you're making? Secondly, I would encourage you then to pray and ask God for wisdom. But then don't look for signs. and look for a billboard that says turn left or turn right, choose that decision or choose that. Instead, you make the decision. Flip a coin if you need to. If they're two equally good decisions and that's what the apostles did when they were deciding between Barzabus and Mias, they cast lots. They cast lots and the lot fell to Mias and he was numbered amongst the twel apostles in replacement of Judas Scared. Acts chapter 1. So that is okay to do that. You can flip a coin. You could use a random number generator if you want to to figure out which option should I pick. Um, and whichever path you pick is God's will for your life. It's his sovereign will for your life. That gives you kind of a bit of freedom like ah that means every decision I make was God was in God's sovereign will for me to make that decision. That's great. It kind of gets sets you free of like, oh no, I've messed up my life by choosing to buy that car rather than that car or live in that city rather than that city. No, what the one that you chose was what the one God wanted you to have at that moment because maybe and even if it wasn't the best choice, God can use it to humble you. So, it's still part of his sovereign will, isn't it?

Okay, this one from Neo. Can you explain or uh the example where God says, "I am not a man." It's in the Old Testament in Numbers. So Jesus is God, but not by that verse. This is a classic one that Muslims like to bring up, isn't it? Now, this is Balum speaking here. Balam, the very one who would later on tempt the the people of Israel with the Medidionites, committing sexual immorality and all that sort of stuff with them and causing a lot of judgment to happen upon the people of Israel. This is that Balum, the Balam who hated Israel, who wanted to curse Israel but ended up having to bless because God said, "Bless, bless and bless." And the context of that verse, notice people don't read context. Often times, a lot of people don't. They just read a verse without seeing who's speaking here. What's the context? The context is bail. Like, come on. Can't you just curse them once, Balum? Just curse them once and then what do we see? He's like God's not a liar, right? God God is not man that he should lie or a son of man that he should change his mind. So he's not man in the sense that he's not going to lie. And he's not son of man that man or son of man changes their mind. Has he said and will he not do it? Or has he spoken and will he not fulfill it? That rhymes. It's pretty cool, isn't it? But he's saying God's not going to change. If you God's already blessed Israel, he's going to keep blessing Israel. He's not going to suddenly curse them. So ba, you could give me all your household. You could give me silver or gold to the mountain tops and I still cannot curse the people who God has blessed. That's what Balum's point is here because God is not man that he lies or changes his mind. So it's in relation to that. It's not into that he can't become a man. But in fact a second point is was God man at this point in time? Had the incarnation of Jesus happened at this point in time? No. This is numbers. This is what 2,000 approximately years before Jesus would become man. God would become man in the person of Jesus. Do you see that? So therefore at the time we can say God's not man even though that's not the point of what he's saying. He's saying he's not flippant. He doesn't change his mind. That's the whole point. But at the time he wasn't man in terms of the incarnation of Christ. But that would happen later on.

Okay. Uh, super chat came in from official. Thank you so much for that. Christ Jesus is the one who died more than us. Jamie said it rhymes. We need a song. That's funny. Can I take communion at home with my wife by taking bread and wine in remembrance of Jesus Christ? I would, this is my advice. My advice is to have communion with your church family. Make sure you're part of a local church would be an encouragement. First of all, don't forsake the assembling of yourselves together. Hebrews 10:25. So, it's good to be part of a good bibleelving church and it's good then to take part in communion when your church is taking part in communion the and rather than just saying I'm by myself at home or I'm with my wife at home, I'll just take communion together with her. I would probably advise against that. I wouldn't say necessarily 100% that's sinful. I'm not saying I'm not going to that. I'm just saying my advice is that's probably not wise because we don't see it really specifically done that way in scripture. In 1 Corinthians 11, when Paul's giving instructions about Lord the Lord's supper, he says, "When you come together," and it's for the purpose of communion, it's not when you're privately in your own home celebrating communion by yourself or with your wife. It's when you come together, make sure you're not hungry so you don't feel tempted to eat all the bread or or drink too much of the wine, you know, and don't just think it's a regular meal. This is a special meal. Not that that changes substance into the body and the blood of Jesus, but it points you to his body and blood. So, yeah, I don't think because we have no biblical example of people just taking communion by themselves or just in private by like with just one other person. Um, and we have the instructions of how it should be done in 1 Corinthians 11. That's why I say it's reasonable for you just to just wait till church. Wait till church. And the Bible actually doesn't tell us how often communion should be done at your church. Some churches do it every week. Some churches do it every few weeks, every month, every 6 weeks, something like that. Different schedules that churches have. And that's perfectly fine cuz the Bible doesn't tell us how often you are to take it. It doesn't it's not like you're necessarily missing out if you're not taking communion. If your church doesn't do it every week, it's not like, oh no, you're not a true Christian or you're not going to be as sanctified as someone who has is having it every week. No, because God has numerous means of sanctification. And it's not just that. Some people try and say they get healing free communion. That's not specifically something the Bible says. Um, so God can obviously heal through any means he wants to heal, but it's just not what the Bible says. It's just about reminding us of what he's done and proclaiming his death until he comes.

Math Boy, thank you so much for your super chat. He's put a verse. Revelation 11:17. I don't think I have that as a song here, but I got one from Revelation. Let me press this one. And let the one who's thirsty come. Let the one who desires take the water of life without a price. Math boy says, "Fear not. I am the first and the last, the living one." Yes, that is one of our songs. I just don't have the button for it here. Thank you so much, Math Boy. Appreciate that. And that is a great song.

Interesting question from a daughter of the king. Why don't we do anything during Lent? I feel we should. She says, "Okay. Um, why do you think we should?" Scripture never talks about land. Never talks about it's not a biblical tradition. It's a man-made one. Doesn't mean it's wrong. I'm not saying it's wrong. If like celebrating your birthday is a man-made tradition, but doesn't make it wrong. You know, having spaghetti for dinner is a man-made tradition, but that's not wrong necessarily. So I'm not saying Lent is wrong, but where it does become wrong two ways. If you think it's an act of penance that's getting forgiveness of sins, that would be terribly wrong. Then it would show that you don't believe the gospel. If you think it's some sort of act of penance to get forgiveness of sins. Or the second way it would be wrong is if you're doing it to be seen by people. When people put ash on their forehead to show themselves, to show the world how humble they are that they're fasting during this time of year, that's exactly what Jesus told us not to do. Now, it's not wrong to fast during this time of year. Just don't tell anyone else that you're doing it. Don't tell anyone else that you're participating in it. Um, otherwise, Jesus says, if you're doing it for the approval of other people, you have no reward from your father in heaven. And you're not more spiritual if you fast more often than other people. Think of the Pharisees. The Pharisees fasted twice a week. In fact, that's what the guy in Luke 18, the Pharisee in that story, in that parable there. Two men went up into the temple to pray. One a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee standing by himself prayed thus, "God, I thank you that I'm not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week." Look at that. The Mosaic Lord didn't even command him to fast twice a week. He only had to fast one time a year and that was the day of atonement under the Old Testament law. This guy is not just doing it once a week. He's doing it even twice a week. Look at him. He even gives tithes of everything that he gets. And yet that man didn't go home justified. The guy who's probably never fasted in his life. The one who just said, "God, be merciful to me a sinner." That's the one who went to down to his house justified rather than the other. Because everyone who exalts himself will be humbled but the one who humbles himself will be exalted. So just because someone happens to fast or even you see some people live in caves. Have you seen like different Orthodox priests or monks or whatever? They're living in a cave away from society. They're doing aseticism where they don't eat comfortable food. They don't have comforts in their residence or whatever it is. that is not more holy than if you lived in a normal home. It's not about where you live, how many luxuries you got. No, it's not about that. Uh, so fasting and even abstaining from things can increase your godliness, but not necessarily. Sometimes it makes people more puffed up with pride. So just check your heart. If you're doing it, you can do it for the glory of God. You can even be rewarded in heaven for that. Matthew 6, you know, fast in secret and your father who sees in secret will reward you. So, it can be a good thing. Just make sure that you're not doing to be like, "Hey, look, at least I'm doing this compared to those other guys over there. Look at them." Then you've got the wrong attitude. And so, when Catholics and Orthodox during this time of year like, "Oh, look at all those Protestants and they're not fasting like we are. They're being exactly like the the Pharisee in the story of the Pharisee and the tax collector." So, it's up to you, daughter of the king, if you want to do something for it, but you don't have to either.

All right, next one. Okay. Uh, DWG says, "I had an interaction with a man yesterday who said he believes in evolution and thinks that Christianity is a fiction. How would you approach this type of interaction? Admittedly, I froze." I say, "What makes you think that?" Put him on the back foot. He's making the unjustified assertion here. So ask him, "What makes you think that Christianity is a fiction? What evidence do you have it's a fiction?" Because you're the one assuming the burden of proof. As soon as you say Christianity is false or a fiction, you now have to prove it. And if he's like, "Well, prove it to me." Hold up. Don't let him just twist it. Don't let him twist the burden of proof back to you. He's the one making the assertion and therefore see if he can back it up. And likely he won't be able to back it up. there's zero evidence that Christianity is fiction. And so then you can say, "Hey man, it sounds like you might be believing in your beliefs by blind faith if you haven't been able to back up the idea that Christianity is fiction." But let's go and have a look at what is true. So do you believe the universe had a beginning? Yes. And we know that everything with a beginning needs something to cause it to begin. So logically, the universe would need to have a cause or creator for the universe, does it not? And so go to then go to God's so so you're talking about God's existence and once you've shown him God exists and evolution is irrelevant don't even go down the subject of evolution most of the time you don't need to just because you can say even regardless of evolution where the atoms and molecules come from that evolution requires where those things come from and they'll say oh we don't know we don't know we don't know actually we do know we know that the universe had a beginning and every effect has a cause so therefore the universe needs a cause notice how like, oh, they're so firmly believing evolution, but as soon as you get back to, oh, there has to be a cause for the universe. Oh, we just can't know. We just can't know. You can't just fill in a gap there. We're not filling in the gaps. We're not doing God of the gaps, cuz we're not arguing from what we don't know. We're arguing from what we do know. Evolution is filling in the gaps. Evolution is like just people postulating something without evidence. But when we assert God, we're saying it because of the evidence. because the entire universe screams his existence. And then go from that to what happens after we die, heaven and hell, law and then gospel.

This one from Lua. What do you think of people that say Paul distorted and took over the message of Christianity? This is often what Muslims might say, but you also have some people who are works based salvationists um who hold to like baptism being required for salvation. They sometimes say the same thing as well because they don't like how clear Paul was. How he's like not of works. Yeah. You know, he's like, "I thank God I baptized none of you, you know, cuz Christ didn't send me to baptize but to preach the gospel." But their argument holds no weight that Paul twisted or distorted the Christian message because Jesus appointed Paul. Have a look at Acts chapter 9. We see the conversion of the Apostle Paul where Paul encounters Jesus, gets brought to the ground, blinded for three days, things like that, and he's then appointed as an apostle to the Gentiles. And the message of the gospel that Paul had was a direct revelation of Jesus Christ is what it says in Colossians. But it's also perfectly consistent with the message of the other apostles because in Acts 15, Paul goes up to the apostles in Jerusalem and they're chatting about, do you have to get circumcised to be saved? It says here, "But some believers who belong to the party, the Pharisees, rose up and said, it's necessary to circumcise them and order them to keep the law of Moses." The apostles and the elders were gathered together to consider this matter. And after there been much debate, Peter gives up. He gives a speech. And you know his speech is you don't need to get circumcised. Peter's speech is just Gentiles should hear the word of God as it says here and believe. Hear, believe. The very thing that Paul says, hear and believe. And God who knows the heart bore witness to them by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us. So if God's given the Holy Spirit to people who just hear and believe, they don't get necessarily baptized. They don't have to do good deeds. They have to be doing sacraments. They just hear and believe and they get the same Holy Spirit like Cornelius in Acts 10. That's what he's hearkening back to. Then therefore, is God going to mistakenly give the Holy Spirit to someone he didn't intend to give the Holy Spirit to? The Holy Spirit who is the guarantee of our inheritance. No. And he made no distinction between us and them having cleansed their hearts by what? Circumcision. By baptism. By No, by faith. By faith. Now therefore, why are you putting God to the test? By placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear. What's the yoke? The yoke is thinking that you have to obey any part of the Mosaic law for salvation. What does the Roman Catholic Church say you have to um do in order to attain salvation? It's not faith alone. What do they say? All men may attain salvation through faith, baptism, and the observance of the commandments, which is part of the Mosaic law.

So, they are doing the same error. They're committing the same error that these Judaizers in Acts 15 were doing, saying that you've got to keep the law of Moses, at least part of the law of Moses to be saved. And that's what the Catholic Church teaches. You've got to do this to what? Attain salvation. Same error. It's already been defeated at the Jerusalem Council. The Catholic Church ignores that and still teaches this false message. Still teaches a false message. And so, it's a yoke, isn't it? Why is it a yoke? Because to keep that, you have to do it perfectly. Does a single Roman Catholic or non-Roman Catholic keep the Ten Commandments perfectly today? None of us do. So therefore, it's a yoke. It's dragging you down.

And so then what does he say? Verse 11, but we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus just as they will. And what does grace mean? Unmerited favor, not contingent on baptism and keeping the commandments. That's not unmerited. That's now merited. And that's what the Catholic Church teaches. They you have to merit for yourself eternal life. The grace is needed for eternal life. That's not unmerited favor. They adamantly then reject the gospel of grace.

And so, no, Paul did not distort Christianity. Paul preached the same message as Peter did. I was quoting Peter just then. And James. James gives a speech there. He agrees with Paul's message. In fact, they gave him the right hand of fellowship at Galatians 2. And so, if they want to get rid of people want to get rid of Paul's messages, they have to get rid of Acts as well. If they get rid of Acts, they have to also get rid of Luke because Luke wrote both Luke and Acts. And so, now they're messing up a whole lot. Now, you have to get rid of Peter's writings, too, because Peter affirms Paul's writings of scripture in second Peter 3:15 and 16. So, you have to get rid of Peter's writings, which means you have to get rid of Mark because Mark relied on Peter. What are you left with? You're not left with much at all if you get rid of Paul because Paul is consistent and he's affirmed by the other apostles.

Hey, super chat came in from witness. Thank you so much. Not sure if you had a comment along with it, but I appreciate. Here we go. Here's the comment. Hey, Ryan. I've been studying Molinism. What's your thoughts? Yeah, I don't think Molinism is biblical in a sense of of course God knows everything and even he knows everything about every possibility that's out there. He knows there's nothing that God doesn't know. We can just say that. But that does not lead to Molinism. The idea that God chose a world where the most amount of people could freely believe in him without him drawing them without him softening their heart and drawing them and granting them faith and making them believe basically. So Molinism hates the idea that God changes our heart, draws us to himself, all that sort of stuff. And they say God chose a world where the maximum amount of people would freely believe in him without the intervention of God changing the heart. Scripture never says that. Scripture says you can't even come to him unless you're drawn. Right? John 6:44. No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I'll raise him up on the last day. You want to come to Jesus? You can't unless the Father draws you. You cannot come unless you're drawn. And then in verse 64, Jesus says to this crowd of unbelievers largely, there are some of you who do not believe. And then he said in 65, this is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father. So what is Jesus implying here? He's implying that these guys don't believe because they're not granted to come to him by the Father. So therefore, if someone does come to believe, it's only because it's been granted to come on the Father. And anyone who does come to him, he'll never be cast out. All that the Father gives me will come to me. And whoever comes to me, I will never cast out. Appreciate your question there. Yeah. So I just don't find any biblical evidence to say that God chose a world where the most amount of people would freely believe. If God doesn't soften our heart, none of us are going to freely believe because we don't want him. By nature, we turn our back. We've all turned our back on him. And that's why we need God to seek after us. It's not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sin.

All right, next one. Do you consider yourself a Gentile? Well, Gentile just generally believes any is somebody who's not a Jew. And so, yes, we are Gentiles in the sense that we are not ethnically a Jew. Now, we are children of Abraham as the sense of Paul mentions it in Galatians chapter 3 that if you belong to Christ, you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. So, in that sense, we are spirit, we belong to spiritual Israel and we inherit the blessings of that. But in the sense that ethnically we would be Gentiles in the sense that we're not ethnically Jewish.

Uh, your second question is what do you believe the new covenant is? Well, Jesus said, I establish a new covenant in my blood. And so this new covenant would be so he broke down the dividing wall of hostility between Jew and Gentile. We have one body in Christ. It's his death for paying for our sins. So, we enter into his covenant through faith, which is the same way how people always entered into God's covenant of salvation. It's always been by faith. But he makes clear it's not by Mosaic law. It's not by animal sacrifice. It's by the once-for-all sacrifice of Jesus. And so, the book of Hebrews talks a lot about this. If you're interested in the new covenant, go through the book of Hebrews and you've got things like Hebrews 8:6. But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is much more excellent than the old. As the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. So there we have a new covenant enacted on better promises. For if the first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second. Right? So, if the first covenant, like the Mosaic law he's talking about, was all good and swell, there's no need to look for a second one. But even the Old Testament says, there's going to be a second one. For behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I'll establish a new covenant with the house of Israel, with the house of Judah. This is Old Testament. He's quoting here. And then he goes on to talk about how this covenant is, yeah, it's talked about how it's better. And it's talked about how the old one then has become obsolete. Now obsolete. So look at verse 13. And speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And that which is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. Obsolete means out of date. Become of no use. So that's the old covenant is of no use. It's out of date because we have a new one established in Christ's blood.

All right. Super chat. Wow. Thank you Missy for your very kind generous super chat today. God bless you. Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen. Hey, thank you Missy. Appreciate your kindness there. Missy says, "I thank God that I found your channel, Ryan. God bless you and Beck and all who believe they can rest in Jesus' finished work on the cross. Yes. Amen. Faith alone saves us. I appreciate you and your whole team for all you guys work for Jesus Christ our savior." Hey, thank you so much for your encouragement. Really appreciate that a lot. Great to have you here and so glad that you've got a great understanding of the gospel as well. Resting in Jesus Christ.

This one from Jasmine. Have you been baptized? Yes, I have been baptized. Um, and who has the authority to baptize? Anyone? Look at the Great Commission. Go make disciples of all nations. Is it only like ministers of churches who can go and make disciples? No, we're all called to go make disciples. Not disciples of us, but disciples of Jesus. Like, we're all disciples of Christ. And yet, generally though, even though we have the authority to baptize anyone, I usually recommend it's good celebration with your church family. Like if you're part of a church, get your pastor. Hey pastor, can you baptize me? And then he'll organize whatever they need to do to get that done. Let's keep reading your comment. Although baptism won't grant us access into heaven, would you recommend it to believers? Absolutely. It's a command of God. I encourage everyone to do any of the commands that God has given to us. Baptism is one of them. So is sharing the gospel. So is growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. And so I will not speak against good works. I never speak against good works. All I speak against is making it a requirement for salvation. If you make it a requirement of salvation, you turn something which is good, a good command into something which is now bad. Not that the command is bad, but how they how the person's viewing it, they now have a bad view of it, have a bad view of it because they're now making it as a prerequisite for salvation. And so we don't make it a prerequisite. We just do it out of love and gratitude to God for what he's done for us.

In the vine. Thank you so much for your super chat. Exalts himself to show mercy to you. For the Lord is a God of justice. Blessed are all those who wait for him. Do you think the Antichrist or the beast was Rome or more closely tied to Nero instead of an actual singular person that many think is coming? Thank you and God bless. Eschatology. Yeah, this is something which I think there's so many different opinions. I don't have any firm opinion on eschatology. Could be interesting to look at but also not overly important compared to gospel issues, which is why I try and make my focus more gospel issues. People have the perspective that maybe the Antichrist or beast was something happening in the first century. Others will say that something happening in the future. To me, my perspective how Paul speaks about that the man of lawlessness in second Thessalonians. What I lean more towards is that that will be a future person who sits in the temple of God. The temple now being the church, the believers, the body of believers, not a physical building in Jerusalem, who's going to try and proclaim himself to be God and get people to be led astray because it says that this man of lawlessness is being held back currently and will be defeated once Jesus comes back. Verse 18. And then the lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. I think this is clearly the second coming of Jesus. That's the context of 2 Thessalonians 2. Like if someone said, "Oh, the resurrection's already happened." He's like, "Don't believe them." Even if it's from a supposed letter that they've forged in my name, Paul's saying, don't believe it because the rebellion's going to happen first and the man of lawlessness is going to have be revealed. And so I don't think specifically anything in the first century would be a direct fulfillment of that. I personally would see it as a future thing that there will be a man of lawlessness. Who is it? I don't know. I think it'll be very clear at the return of Christ who that man of lawlessness was because Christ will defeat him. And again, whatever perspectives people have on end times, it's okay. You can have unity regardless of perspectives there.

This one from Mason. Hey Ryan, I'm Anglican. Would you be willing to have a chat about baptism? I hold to sola fide and baptismal regeneration. Yeah, that's I personally think they're inconsistent. I don't think you can truly hold a sola fide and also believe baptism being a requirement for salvation or that baptism regenerates you. And so maybe we can have a chat about it with our viewer chats coming up later on today's stream. It'd be great to have you come up. That'll be in about an hour's time or so. Yeah, Jamie said that's a contradiction. I would see it as a contradiction. How can you say it's faith alone? Faith is the only instrumental cause of your justification, but you also needed to get baptized to be saved. Well, then you don't think faith is the only instrument of how you receive justification if you think it's received through baptism, but we can talk about later.

The 90s, thank you for your super chat. Appreciate it. I am not ashamed of it for everyone who believes. Can an apostate who realized they made a mistake and now has faith in Christ come back to Christianity? And if so, when are they born again? Yes, you can come back if you've been maybe pretending to be a Christian for 40 years even. But now you're like, "Wow, I've been trusting in myself, but now I'm trusting in Jesus alone to save me." Well, then if you've got your trust in Christ, that would be evidence that you're born again. You weren't born again when you're holding on to your false gospel or rejecting Christ. But if you now have your true faith in Christ, that is evidence of God's Spirit's regeneration work in you and the fact that he brought you to himself. So as soon as if someone is still breathing, they can come to Christ. Don't think to yourself, "My sins are too big. I can't come to Christ now." Satan would love to convince you of that. That you can't come to Christ now. You've done too many sins. Or you've you've used to be a Christian, now you've rejected it. Now you can't come back. No, he come to Christ. Jesus says, "Come to me all who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest." Yeah.

All right. You know it's time for you guys questions and we'll do more with questions and discussions with the viewer chats, but time for me to ask you some questions. That's right. Here we go. It's Bible trivia time. Bible trivia. Here we go. Test your knowledge. Let it show right here on needgod.net. Who can get it first? Are you ready yet? And as Neil just said, if you haven't already hit the like button, smash that like button. Yeah, that'd be good. Yes. And good to see you guys saying it is Bible trivia time. All right. So, this is where I'm going to ask you some random questions about God, the Bible. Here we go. Type your answer in the chat. I'll get you warmed up before we do the formal quizzes. Uh, okay. The widow, Jesus said, gave out of her what? What did she give out of her? When she gave those two little small copper coins, she gave out of her harmony. I'm just thinking of the word poverty. Yes, correct. She gave out of her poverty. Okay. Um, where did Jesus say the teachers of the law like the most important seats? Where do they like the most important seats? What do you think there, Brandon? I'm not sure I understand the question. Okay. Um, Isaac, do you remember it? Um, yeah. They like to go to Can you hear me? Yeah. Wait for you to answer. Go for it. Um, they like to go to the best seats up front or something. Yeah, but where? So, the question is, where do they like to find the best seats? In the synagogue? Yes, in the synagogues. Nice work. Mark 12:39. And what group of people gave a scenario to Jesus about seven hypothetical brothers who married the same woman after you know they all died. So who will she be married to up in heaven? What group of people asked that question to Jesus? All right, what do you think there Chris? Uh was that high priest? No. Good try. Let's go to Brennan. Was that the Sadducees? That was the Sadducees. Nice work. Who don't believe in a resurrection? They were the ones who asked that. All right, just getting you warmed up. Now, let's do five question quiz on a New Testament book and then we'll do one on the Old Testament as well. Okay, I think what we're up to is first Corinthians, I believe. All right, five questions. Any difficulty. Let's do this from 1 Corinthians 1. From whose people did Paul hear that they were there were quarrels among the Corinthians? Was it from Apollos's friends, Chris's family, Chloe's people, or Stephanus' household? Harmony. I think it was from Chloe's people. It was Chloe's people. Well done. It has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. Hold on. What's Ed? Edson's not here. He's like typing in the chat. Where are you, Edson? We're going to miss your question, man. Get in here quick. Your bonus question. All right, next one. All right. 1 Corinthians 1:17. Paul was sent not to baptize, but to do what? Was it collect offerings, heal the sick, preach the gospel, or cast out demons? What do you think, Chris? Preach the gospel? You are correct. Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. Next one. 1 Corinthians 9:7. Who serves as a soldier at his own what? Risk, expense, command, or will? Let's go to Isaac. Um, before you gave the options, I was thinking expense. So, I guess expense. You are correct. Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard without eating any of its fruit? Or who tends a flock without getting some of the milk? And so basically he's using this as an argument to say that's why people who preach the gospel can get their support from others in the preaching of the gospel, financial support. All right. 1 Corinthians 15:33. What does Paul say ruins good morals? Is it idleness, love of money, bad company, or false teaching? Let's go to Brennan. Bad company. Bad company corrupts good morals. Who we got? Edson. He's still not in here yet. Carol Dell Bird of Fray. Good on you guys. Doing well. One more question in the New Testament before we go to the Old. As for prophecies, they will pass away. As for tongues, they will what? Fail, cease, stop, or end? Let's go to Chris. That cease. They will cease. Nice work. Yeah. As for knowledge, it will pass away. Let's see the results. 100%. Good job, you guys. All right. New Testament sometimes easier than Old though, isn't it? So, let's start one on I think we're up to Judges. No, I think we did Judges the other day. We're up to Ruth. Okay, Ruth. Any difficulty or easy? You want it easy, dear? Harmony. We'll do any difficulty. It's only a small book. So, we'll see how we go. All right. Ruth 1:16. Complete Ruth's statement. Your people shall be my people. And what? Your God, my God. Your king, my king. Your land, my land. Your house, my house. What do you think, Harmony? This land is your No, it's your God, my God. Yeah. So, this is when when Naomi was trying to encourage Ruth to go back. Look, I got no more kids, so you go back to your own people. And he's like, and she's like, "No, your people shall be my people. Your God, my God. And where you go, I will go. And where you lodge, I will lodge." Next one. Ruth 4. What did the women say? Ruth was better to Naomi than 10 sons, seven sons, gold, or a husband? Brandon, what do you think? So, the women said to Ruth was better to Naomi then. Um, I feel like it's one of the sons ones. I just don't know which one. I'll go with seven sons. All right, let's try it out. It is seven sons. Well done. Who got that in the chat? That was a trickier one. It looks like nice work Christina getting that one right in the chat. Seven sons. So did Nearly. Well done. Seven sons. It says, "He shall be to you a restorer of life and a nourisher of your old age. For your daughter-in-law who loves you, who is more to you than seven sons has given birth to him." There you go. Okay. Ruth 3. According to Naomi, the man would not rest until Edson's here. He harvests his grain, he finds a wife, he settles the matter today, or he speaks to the elders? What do you think, Edson? See, he settles the matter today. You are correct. Now, can you just quickly explain the context of that one, Edson? Um, I believe that's after Ruth went to Boaz and then he said actually there's another person that's a closer relative I believe. And then yeah, he tried to just figure out who was going to marry Ruth. Yeah. Yeah. After she basically like proposed to him, I want to marry you, Boaz. And and then he was like that day he was trying to figure out if that was okay. He had to sort out with some other people. All right, next one. How did the town view Ruth in Ruth 3? All my fellow townsmen know that you are a worthy woman. They thought she was a foreigner. They despised her or they ignored her. Isaac, what do you think? Um Um Um So, so just for context, chapter 3 is when Ruth came back. Yeah. So Ruth is where the they Ruth proposed basically to Noah to Boaz to say hey look remember how she laid at his feet and uncovered his feet and was like and um yes that's a bit of context if that helps. Okay. Um I'll say the first one. All my fellow. All right. All of my fellow townsmen know that you're a worthy woman. That is correct. Let's look at the context here. All right. So this yeah, the context is she's just laid at you know behold a woman was at his feet. Who are you? I am Ruth your servant. Spread your wings over your servant for you are a redeemer. And then um basically Boaz is just complimenting Ruth. Look everyone's acknowledging Ruth that you are a worthy woman and I am a redeemer. And so he's going to go sort out to see if he can marry her. All right. Last question in Ruth. Are you ready? What was the name of the son born to Boaz and Ruth? Okay, give you a moment to think about it. Here's the options. Is it Jesse, Obed, Solomon, or David? Okay, Chris, what do you think? Is that Jesse? Not Jesse. Good try. Let's go to Brennan. I had to do the Matthew genealogy in my head. I think it's Obed if I'm remembering correctly. Yes. Obed who then had Jesse who had David who had Solomon. So the answer is Obed. Yes. So Ruth is in the lineage of Jesus Christ. Look at that. Ruth and Boaz. Very cool. They have a very very famous descendant. His name is Jesus Christ. Let's go look at the results. 80%. Good. Great job. Told us um Glenn did a quiz this morning on his own when he was and he was reviewing like a question that he got wrong and it was a question on like so he did a quiz and he got 0%. And it's like great job. That's so funny. All right, reviewing correct answers. What was the name of the son born to Boaz and Ruth? Harmony. Obed. Obed is the correct answer. All right, good job everyone in the chat. Now, let's get our bonus question from Edson. So, which beast caused people to be marked on the right hand? Was it the beast from the sea or from the land? Isaac. Um, sorry, the beast from the land. Yeah. Can you explain the difference, Edson? Yeah. So, um, the beast from the sea. Um, if you read Revelation, you'll see that it's a it's more of a kingdom that received authority from the dragon and then the beast from the land. It like causes people to worship the first beast and that's why they're called the false prophets in chapter 16. Okay. All right. Thank you for that tricky one. Let's go to Chris. Have you got a bonus question for us? Yeah. Uh so when the Israelites were walking in the desert, only some of them were allowed to go into the promised land. There was an age cut off. What was that age? Everyone under what age? Brennan? Was it 20? That is correct. Yes, everyone that was 20 years and older didn't get to enter, but those under would. All right. And Harmony, have you got one for us? Yeah. Um, what type of offerings did Cain and Abel bring before the Lord? Chris, I believe that Cain brought a grain offering or like things that grow and Abel brought uh it was it was some kind of animal. Yeah, like from the flock, wasn't it? Yeah, the firstborn of the flock. All right, well done. And we got an emoji one from Math Boy. What story is this in the New Testament? So you got a face, you got bread, you got wine, you got like shaking hands, money, you have nighttime praying, and then you have like a policeman or a soldier, and you got handcuffs or chains, and then you've got a cross. All right, I think I know what it is, but I'm going to ask Edson, what do you think it is? um Jesus being like I mean basically Judas betraying Jesus. So you have Jesus eating the last um celebrating the Passover with the disciples and then I'm not sure what that's supposed to be because I know Judas kissed him. Um well I think Judas is like agreeing to the 30 pieces of silver there. Okay. Yeah. And then they arrested him. Um, he was crucified. When did he pray? Um, where did Jesus get arrested? In the garden. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was praying there. He was praying in the garden of Gethsemane. Yeah. Nice work. Thanks, Math Boy, for that. Well done. Last Supper, betrayal, capture, and death. Yes, you are correct. That is well stated there. All right. Well, Harmony, could you encourage us with a song, a verse? And then let's get Chris to pray for us and then we're going to get some gospel chats and then some viewer chats chat started in just a moment. Sounds good. May God be glorified in hope of eternal life which God remembered before the ages began. and at the proper time in his word through the preaching with which I have been entrusted by the command of God our savior. Titus 1:2 and 3. Thank you, Harmony. Father, thank you for allowing us to gather together in fellowship. Thank you that iron sharpens iron and we can be here to ask questions and learn more about your word. As we continue on with the stream, I ask that you are with Ryan to offer him patience and wisdom. That you give him the words that you would have him say as we sow the fields. And if it's in your will, may we meet some people that are soft soil and are well receptive. And thank you for the peace of mind that you give us knowing that your word never comes back void in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Thank you for that. Well done you guys. Thank you Harmony for great singing. Also want to say thank you to Farzen who sent this super chat in. He says, "I've recently seen that my church 7th Day Adventists aren't theologically right and have decided to no longer attend. What churches should I consider?" Praise God that God's allowed you to see that. I've done a video on I think seven or 10 problems within the SDA church. So glad that God's allowed you to see that. I'd recommend generally I recommend Baptist, conservative Presbyterians or non-denominational churches generally speaking will be better ones. But check the individual church. See what they preach is the way to heaven. Ask the checking questions to the pastor even to see what his answers would be and also see if their what their attitude is of scripture. Is it the ultimate authority? Do they check everything with scripture? But good to hear that. Thank you. All right, let's now get into a gospel chat. This is going to be fun. You guys put your guesses in the chat of where you think this next person is going to be from. And if you're going to select the USA, you got to select a state. Okay, let's open up. I'm going to open up a yumingle today. Here we are. Here we go. There was a comment from Jeremy. I love stuff like this. What Christian YouTube needs is live Bible studies. Love, love your debates and content. Bring the true gospel to this platform. Hey, thank you so much for your encouragement. To God be the glory. Lord, please save this next person in Jesus name. Amen. Here we go. Hopefully you got your guesses in of which country or state you think this person will be from. Are you streaming, bro? Hey, bro. Yeah, I am. I got a serious question though for you. What do you do? Yeah, I'll tell you. I ask people about what happens after we die and like whether they'll go to heaven. Like, do you think you'll go to heaven? Nah, to be real. I sin a lot. Okay. All right. I appreciate your honesty. I've sinned many times. So many times as well. And so therefore, does that make us deserving of hell, would you say? Yeah. Yeah. It's right. We do. We definitely deserve hell for all of our sins, but we don't want to go to hell, do we? How do you think we could avoid going there then? By believing in Jesus Christ. Okay, I agree. Believing in Jesus. But why does that say in the Bible that he's that Jesus is the truth, the way, and the life? Yeah, John 14:6. That's you're spot on about that. But why does believing in Jesus get us to heaven, do you think? Oh, no. It's a tricky one. Yeah. Well, let me explain this way. Because we've sinned and we should be in hell. Just justice needs to be satisfied either by us going to hell forever or by someone getting our hell punishment for us. So if somebody got 100% of your punishment, how much punishment would be left for you to still get? A lot. Well, if someone got all your punishment instead of you, every bit of it, how much is left then? Oh, nothing. Nothing left. Yeah. With zero punishment left then where would you get to go when you die? Up. Up. Yeah, to heaven. And that person who's willing to do that for you is Jesus. That's why he died on the cross and then rose from the dead. Does that make sense? Yes. But how do you give your life fully? Right. Do you realize we don't have to? It's not about giving our life to Christ. That's not how we get our sins forgiven. Instead, we get to go to heaven, have sins forgiven because he gave his life for us. But how we receive that is simply by faith. That is trusting that his sacrifice is enough to get us into heaven without us having to contribute any of our good deeds. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah, it's making sense. So if Jesus takes your punishment, where do you end up when you die? In heaven. Right. So why do you get to go to heaven then? Cuz he takes all your sins away. Takes all your problems. Right. And that's a free gift that he offers you. You just need to accept his free gift. And that's just by trusting that he's done that for you. So let's say today you trust that he died for you, but then you sin again five times tomorrow. Would you go to heaven or hell? Wait, should I repeat that? Sure. Let's say today you're trusting in Jesus. You do then five more sins again tomorrow. Where would you end up? Hell. Okay. But with Jesus, did he only die for your past sins or also your future ones? Oh, no. At past and future present. Right. So therefore, even if you did five more sins again tomorrow, they're already paid for. So then where would you end up? Or in heaven still? Yeah, exactly. It doesn't mean we want to sin. Sin's still bad. We definitely want to try and avoid it. But the good news is there's nothing that could actually separate us from his love. If our trust is in Jesus, we still go to heaven. Okay. But what if you don't trust that he died for you? Where would you end up? Hell. And since you don't want to be sent to hell, when should you start trusting that he died for you? No. Right now. Good answer. Yeah. Because we don't know how long we've got left, right? We can die at any time. And so then if you stood before God today and he asked you, "Why should I let you into heaven?" What would you say to him? It's a tricky one. Oh no. Yeah, it's tricky. It's a bit tricky. But let me help you out. What's the reason why we get to go to heaven even though we deserve hell? Cuz Jesus died on the cross for us. You got it. So then if God asks you, "Why should I let you into heaven?" What should you say to him? Because of Jesus. Yeah. Because of Jesus. Not because what I've done. I've done terrible things. I should be in hell. Because But because Jesus died for me, that's why I'm going to heaven. Does that make sense? Yeah. So then, does doing good things play any part in getting you to heaven? No. No. You're right. We just do good things now to honor our Lord, say thank you to him, and show gratefulness, but nothing about how to get it's not about how to get us to heaven. So, how sure are you right now out of a hundred that you're going to heaven? To be honest, I've been thinking of this long time already. 50/50. But like every time I try to repent, I always fall back into temptation. Okay. All right. When you say repent, what do you mean by repent? Like fully give my life to Christ. Okay. Just remember though, we're not saved by giving our life to Christ. We're saved by him giving his life for us. Right. And did he only pay for 50% of your sins? No. Right. He paid for 100%. So then how much punishment is left for you to still get in hell? Zero. So if you believe that today, then how sure can you be that you're going to heaven? 100. Right? Do you see that? The reason why you've always thought 50/50 is because you've always thought it's based on your behavior. You thought it's based on how many sins have I done recently? Have I been good enough? All right. And and therefore, that's basically trying to earn your way to heaven. But you can't earn your way there. It's a free gift. Is this making sense? Yes. Right. So then if a friend told you that he's going to heaven because he's a good person, would that friend go to heaven or hell? Hell. Yeah. Why would it be hell? Cuz he's just saying he's a good person, but he didn't really allow Jesus into his life. Right. What he was trusting in wasn't Jesus, was it? It was himself. He's like, I think I'm going to heaven because I'm a good person. He's relying on himself. He doesn't have Jesus. So, where does he go? Hell. Yeah, you got it. But if you had like another friend who said, I'm going to heaven because Jesus died for me and also because I do good things for him. Would that person go to heaven or hell? Heaven. Now, by trusting in two things to save him, was he trusting 100% in Jesus or any 50%? 50. Yeah. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him. These are all good things to do. Do you have to get baptized to go to heaven? I thought being baptized was being reborn. A lot of people think that, but that's actually not correct because Jesus says unless you're born again, you can't even enter heaven. But we get reborn then not by getting a bit of water put over our body. We get reborn by the Holy Spirit making us bringing us alive in Christ. Making us alive in Christ. Taking out the stubborn heart we used to have to now the heart that you know has faith and loves the Lord. Does that make sense? That's born again. It doesn't it's not referring to baptism. Yeah. Because otherwise that'd be salvation by your works, by your actions. Again, we're not saved by doing good actions, are we? See that? Yeah. Um, and do you go to church at all? I stopped. H. What church did you used to go to? Word of Life. Word of Life. Okay. Is that like Pentecostal or what kind of church is that? It's a It's a church where you can call home. No cap. Okay. But it's it's Yeah, that's where I've been going my whole life. Like 360. Okay. All right. But what made you stop going recently? H. Busyness of life. Nah, let me. Nah, it's not I'm never busy for Christ. But I'm always getting distracted. Right? Yeah. It's true. Yeah. It's very easy, very easy to get distracted with the world, the desire for pleasure and riches and everything else in life. And so yeah, we want to make it a priority to be learning more about God. So our Bible reading is one thing, but going to church is another thing where we can learn more about God. But just check at your church. What did they tell you was the way to get to heaven? To me, like mean that like what I told you about baptizing, reborn, I thought that was the way like the only way. Right. So that's what they really that's what they told you at your church. No, I've been thinking my own way. Oh, okay. Yeah. Basically, I would just encourage you to check with your church to see what they have been teaching is the way to get to heaven. Um, and make sure that they're not teaching that it's your works. It's what you do. Instead, it's all what Christ did alone that saves us. And um, you should even check with your family and friends about what they think is the reason they're going to heaven because what do you think they're Wait, can I ask can I ask you something? Sure. Yeah, go for it. Do you know what's the mark of the beast? Uh no. I've heard of the mark of the beast. It's in the Bible, but I don't know exactly what it refers to. No. But at the same time, I don't think we need to be too anxious about it either because the Lord keeps those who belong to him. Amen. Right. And so we can just be like, "No, God's got me. He's given me the Holy Spirit. If I got my trust in Jesus, I don't need to be worried about the mark of the beast. God's got my back." Yeah. Um, so if you asked your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be? Same thing as mine. And so, because you don't want them to go to hell, what do you think you could do at this point to help them not go to hell? Just make them do what I'm doing. Okay. Try. What do you mean? Start. I'm going to start reading the Bible every day. Okay. That's a good thing to do. But reading the Bible every day doesn't get us to heaven, though. Just remember that. What gets a person to heaven? Having faith in Jesus Christ. Right. So what could you communicate to them then? To have faith. Right? Yeah. Pass this message on. Tell them, look, it's good to do Bible reading. It's good to pray, get baptized. Just plays no part in getting you to heaven. Jesus did all the work. We put our trust in him that he saved us. And then as a result, we just do those good things to say thank you to him and learn more about him. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Um, and so just remind me if God says, "Why should I not send you to hell for the sins you've done?" What would you say to him? Cuz I put my faith in him. Yep. Faith. What about him? I believe that he died on the cross for us. Yeah. But And do you believe that that's the only reason why you're going to heaven? No. Okay. What other reasons then if it's besides that? I don't really know. Well, by saying it's not the only reason, you're really saying Jesus, you're not enough. I had to make up the difference by what I did. And so therefore, he's rejecting Jesus. So where would he end up? Oh, hell. In hell. Good answer. So, think back then at the beginning of this conversation. What did you think was going to get you to heaven before? Like what you said, like when we just do things on our own, like doing good and thinking. Yeah. Yeah. So if you had died then before we talked today then where would you have ended up? Hell. Yeah. But if you died this very moment where would you go? Hell. Okay. You still think hell right now? Yeah. Cuz I talk too much only suicide and all. Yeah. Okay. So do you now trust in Jesus that he's taken all the punishment for all of your sins? Yeah. So he took all your punishment. Where do you end up? In heaven. Right. So do you believe that now? Do you believe I am 100% going to heaven because Jesus died for me? Yeah. Okay. Right. Because man, heaven's not for good people. Heaven is for forgiven people. Those who have Christ pay for their sins and they're trusting what he's done. All right. What do you think about this message? This is what I needed to hear. Very true. Very true. It would actually make this conversation a turning point in your life, right? Cuz if you're trusting and being a good person before, now if hopefully your trust is in Jesus to save you, this has been a turning point. Now, as a result, this makes you love Jesus. It makes you want to try and avoid sin out of gratitude to him for what he's done for you. And what's going to help in that is reading your Bible. So, do you have a Bible at home? Yep. Do you read it much? Not much, but yeah, I read. Yeah. Well, you should definitely get into your Bible every single day. You might say to yourself something like, "No Bible, no breakfast or no read, no feed" to get you in the habit of reading every single day. Start in the book of John. If you're looking for a place to start, it gives you a good summary, an introduction to the life of Christ. Yeah. Um, do you think you'll start reading your Bible every day? I'm going to I'm going to start doing that. Good. That's really good, man. And also, uh, what you should do is be prayerful to God throughout your day, thanking him for his blessings, committing, you know, all the next things in your life to him, but then also, you know, confessing sins to him

Jesus. That's it, man. Only because of Jesus.

So, did you have to do good things as well to get to heaven?

You mean like good things?

Yeah. But was that a requirement? Were extra, were good things a requirement to do to go to heaven?

Oh, yes.

Okay. Well, then are you 100% trusting in Jesus if you think you've got to do good things to get to heaven as well?

Yeah.

No, you wouldn't be. You'd be rejecting Jesus. Do you see that?

Think of it like this, man. If you told a friend, "Friend, I'm going to buy you a ticket to a concert, right? So, don't buy your own. I've got a ticket for you. Just trust me." But your friend's like, "Hey, look, I'm not really sure if you will, so I'm going to go buy my own ticket just in case." Then, was he really trusting you?

No.

So in the same way, if we say, "Okay, Jesus, yeah, you died on the cross for me, but I don't think that's enough to get me to heaven unless I do some good things as well," then are you really trusting in Jesus to get you to heaven?

No.

And so therefore, you'd end up in hell.

So then what are you going to trust in to get you to heaven? Think back to the picture if it's helpful. What is, what are you going to rely upon to get you, to save you from this punishment that's coming your way?

Oh, Jesus.

Yes. Jesus taking it on the cross. Nothing about you, bro. What we've done is filthy rags. All because of what Jesus has done. That's why we can be going to heaven.

Now, was Jesus enough to get you to heaven?

Yes.

Yes. So then do you have to do any good deeds to get to heaven?

No.

No. Do you have to pray or read the Bible to get to heaven?

Yes.

But that's a good deed, isn't it?

I, I thought you also got to pray to.

No. Not to get to heaven. Now, we do that. We should do that, but not to get to heaven is my point. I'm asking about what gets us into heaven. Is it, what is it? The good deeds we do, like praying, barber reading, sharing the gospel, and getting baptized, or is it only what Jesus did for us on the cross?

Oh, no. What Jesus did for us on the cross.

So, therefore, do you have to pray to get to heaven?

Oh, no.

No. Exactly. Making sense?

Oh, yeah.

Right. These are just things that we delight to do. We delight to do it because of God's love that's been poured into our hearts. We just now it moves us to delight to serve Him and honor Him with our life, but not as a prerequisite for heaven. See that?

Yeah.

Good. Hopefully, that's, that's made sense to you now. And so then, do you have any questions or any comments?

I just needed to hear this.

Yeah. Praise God, man. This is no accident that out of the 7,000, 8,000 people online that He's connected us together to talk about this. It's amazing. And so never forget this message. And a good way to never forget it is to say two things to yourself every day. Ready? First thing, I deserve hell for my sins. Second thing, but Jesus took it for me, so that's why I'm going to heaven. If you keep reminding yourself of that every day, that'll forever make you thankful, happy, joyful, and content, knowing that God rescued you from what you truly deserve. Make sense?

Yep.

Good. Good.

Well, what's, wait, so you're, you're really streaming right now?

I'm streaming, bro. You're, you're the star of the show at the moment.

On YouTube.

On YouTube. The username I put in the chat for you there. It's needed.net.

I'm a, I'm a subscribe. I'm a follow.

Good. Good. Everyone in the chat would love to say hi to you as well. So, definitely go into live chat and say hi to them. Hey, it's my brother Cus from Oahu. I'm on top right now, you know. Thank you though. God bless.

So, my name's Ryan. What was your name? Sorry. What was your name?

LJ.

LJ. LJ. Hey, it's good chatting to you, LJ. Um, yeah. Pop into the chat. Say hi there to the people there. Great community of people. But I'm so glad we got to talk. All right, man.

All right. God bless you. Oh, cool. What a great chat with LJ. Harmony said, "I initially thought when I didn't see the country on the side, I actually thought he was New Zealand from New Zealand." All right, that's what I initially thought, but then I looked at the country. Oh, Hawaii. He's in the US. Harmony said, "No one guessed Hawaii in the USA." We had two Hawaii chats recently, haven't we? So now people might start guessing that state. That was a good conversation. And look at Jammy's comment. "I'm on top too, LJ. I'm seated in the heavenly places." I feed this one. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Hopefully, he's, that's encouraged him. Knowing the gospel, knowing, look, I've been brought out from darkness to light, from slavery to sin and condemnation to just being set free from that to now being a slave of God and knowing I'm going to heaven. There's that freedom. How, how good is that? Let's pray for him. Heavenly Father, pray for LJ. Thank you for the great chat. Thank you for his willingness to hear and stick around. And Lord, we, um, we just ask that You'd cause him to just keep resting in Christ to the end. May he get into the Bible every day. Help him to be a witness to his family and friends around him. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. All right, let's have another chat and then we'll do some viewer chats after that, Lord willing. Here we go. And by the way, someone said, "How do I join? You've got some questions." Well, they're coming up pretty soon. We'll do some viewer chats, but we get to try and reach somebody else now on Yumingle. So, put your guesses in for a second or just for which country I'm going to reach next. Country or state? If you pick US, you have to pick the state. If you guess another country, you can just guess another country. Yeah. Um, someone said, "My son said, 'I believe in Jesus, but he doesn't follow His commandments. Is he still entering the kingdom of God?'" Depends what he means by believes in Jesus. Like, a lot of people believe in Jesus, but in what sense are they believing it? Is it just that He's a real person? Believe that He just died on the cross, but or are they actually trusting that they're going to heaven purely and only by His sacrifice without their works? That's what it really means to believe in Jesus. That's what a saving or justifying faith is. And that faith in Christ, um, will have been caused by God's regeneration. And therefore, that person will have a new heart with new desires and begin to walk differently. Here we go. Lord, please save this next person in Jesus' name. Amen.

Hey, can I ask you a question?

Yes.

Thank you. The question is, do you believe that there is a heaven after we die?

No.

No. Okay. All right. Um, do you believe there's a God?

No.

Okay. Have you ever thought about or considered where the universe came from?

I think it's from the black hole. We studied about that.

Okay. Black hole.

I don't know.

All right. Only issue is the black hole had a beginning. Everything that's in the universe, matter, space, time, black holes, they all had a beginning, which means that's not the explanation for where the universe came from. There needs to be something that's beyond the universe that created it. Does that make sense?

It makes sense, but, but I think, um, how can I explain it? I think, uh, humans are the part of Darwinism. You know about Darwinism?

I know about Darwinism. But that again, Darwinism is irrelevant as to whether God exists because even if evolution was true, evolution requires atoms and molecules to exist.

I'm asking where did the atoms and molecules come from? Evolution doesn't explain that. See?

Um, I cannot answer to your question, but I believe in that Darwinism and science.

But guess what? I'm saying science doesn't go against God. There's not a single science experiment that, that's concluded, therefore, there's no God. There's nothing in science that even indicates that slightly.

Right.

Do you believe in God?

I do believe in God because of the evidence. It's like this, man. I know that, I know that your hoodie that you're wearing right now had to be designed or manufactured by someone. It didn't just pop into existence one day.

Even though I have no idea who made that.

So in the same way, I don't, as in, I haven't seen the person who made the universe, but I know that this universe had a beginning. And so therefore, that is evidence of a creator for the universe. Does that make sense?

Yeah, it makes sense. But which god do you believe in?

Right. So, you just, before I answer that question, do you agree then that there's a creator for the universe?

Yeah.

Yeah. Good.

Let me.

All right.

You answer my question. Which, which God do you believe in? Jesus, Allah, like, uh, um, Shiva?

Right. I believe that Jesus is God. I am a Christian myself. And I think the way.

I'm also a Christian myself. I'm also a Christian.

Okay. Well, glad, I'm glad that we can have this chat then and clarify then. Yes. So we know God exists. We know that Jesus is God because He proved Himself by rising from the dead, right? He didn't.

So, you believe in God or Jesus? There is a God and a Jesus.

Well, Jesus God. Biblically speaking, there's one God, but He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Jesus is a.

Jesus is not God. There is someone beyond Jesus. There is a big, uh, big power over Jesus.

What makes you say this?

Because, um, you know that Moshe, Mishia, Moses. Yeah.

Yeah. Moses.

Um, that God appeared in, in front of him in a flame. You, you know about that story?

Yeah. The burning bush. Uh, Exodus chapter 3. Yeah.

Yeah. Nobody sees God. It's just a flash of light. Everybody sees.

Do you remember Jacob?

Yeah.

Jacob wrestled with God and saw God, 'cause God was manifest in a human body and he wrestled all night with Him and he even said, "I saw God face to face." So that's from also the first five books of the Bible, the Pentateuch. We see that.

People did see God in the sense of God manifest in some sort of physical form.

And so can God do everything?

No.

And which means God can also then take on a physical form if He wants to. And that's what He did in the person of Jesus Christ. He came to this world to save His people from their sins. It says,

So when did the Christians arrive from, like, before Christian, there is some other God over there?

No. Um, for, right from the start, Christians have always believed in one God who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. It's very clearly taught in the Bible. The New Testament makes that clear. Um, so I want to ask you, since we both know God exists and we're going to be judged by Him one day based on how we've lived.

Yeah.

Do you think that you've been a good person?

No.

No. Okay. Appreciate your honesty. So, like in your life, have you ever told a lie before?

Yes. Always.

Me, too.

Okay. Have you ever used bad language?

Yeah.

What about this? Have you.

Every day.

Every day. Okay. Have you ever been angry or rude to someone?

Uh, it's up to the mood I've been.

Right. So, we've done these sort of things, right? Even lust after a woman that you're not married to is also sinful, too. If you think of sexual thought. So His standards are very, uh, thorough and strict, but they're good standards. So, if God was to judge you based on these things, do you think that you'd be innocent or guilty?

I don't know.

Innocent means you've done nothing wrong your whole life. Guilty means you've done at least one bad thing. Uh, which one would you be?

Guilty.

Yeah. So being guilty then, do you deserve to be like rewarded or punished?

It's up to the God. He will decide.

Okay. Um, well, God's already decided. He's already said that He'll by no means clear the guilty and that all liars will have their part in the lake of fire. So, He's already decided that guilty people should go to hell. And that we're guilty people, so that's what we deserve. But we don't want to go to hell. I don't want you to go to there either. So, how do you think we could avoid being sent to that lake of fire?

Um, I think I don't believe in hell and heaven. When we die, our body goes to the soil and soul goes to somewhere else.

Okay. What makes you think this?

Because in Bible it says the body will decay and I don't know how to explain in English. Sorry.

Yeah, that's right. Um, uh, it's interesting what happening. Um, so I'll show you a Bible verse. This is Matthew 8:11 and 12. So I'll put that there for you. Can you, can you read that one out? Do you see that in the chat?

Yeah.

Yeah. Can you read that? Uh, he disconnected it. That was so weird. I like went off the side of the screen. That was super weird. I was like, "What's going on here?" Um, but, yeah, interesting, interesting chat with that fellow. And so he called him like, so he said, "I just doesn't believe in God. He believes in evolution and all this sort of stuff." But then he eventually came to, he conceded that point. He's like, "Okay, I believe in God." He wants to know which God. But he was very firm like, "God, he's like, Jesus is not God." It was, but then he called himself a Christian. He said he's a Christian too. I'm like, "Inconsistent much." Um, and then he's like, "What heaven and hell?" He doesn't think exists because of the Bible. I'm like, "Well, this is what the Bible says." Matthew 8:11 and 12. "Many will come from east and west and recline at table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven, while the sons of the kingdom will be thrown into the outer darkness." In that place there will be what? Weeping and gnashing of teeth. Is there a place of punishment? Is there a good place? A place where you're reclining at table? There is. The Bible is clear about that. Okay. But that's as much as the Lord allowed me to speak with him before he, he ran away. That's all good. Here we go. I just saw a comment from Ian Caster. "Hey Ryan, just want to say thank you. I've been in Roman Catholicism for 3 years. Found you a couple months ago and now I know the truth. Thank you." Hey, praise God. Woohoo. That is exciting. That is super exciting. I, I love hearing it when people come to the knowledge of the truth. Notice like when you hear like people's testimonies to Catholicism, it's like, ah, I was reading church fathers, or I was like, um, you know, I found the architecture, the smells and the bells, the feelings in the Eucharist. Notice it's all just the very subjective things. But then when people come to the knowledge of the gospel, the truth, they're like, "I was depending on myself. I was self-righteous and now I realize Jesus is the true answer and I'm depending on Him and I've got certainty of eternal life now." Yeah. Um, so it's just really encouraging. I find that really encouraging hearing testimonies. People come to the knowledge of the truth. Uh, let's see. Trashman guest UK. Well done. And also Jay Hernandez guest UK as well. Good job, you guys guessing the country there. Um, I will put in the chat for you guys the Streamyard link. This is be, be our conversation where if you want to come up and ask any questions, have a conversation, ask anything, even if you think I'm wrong about something and you want to have a chat about it, click on this link here, the Streamyard.com link, and let's get these chats started.

It's viewer chat time here on, here on.net. Get excited.

And Trey's asked the question, "Where did Bryce post what you posted about on X?" If you check on his X, on his Bryce Crawford channel there on X, he mentioned that he thinks Mary is our mother. Keep him in your prayers that he, and hopefully it comes to viewer chat. If someone knows Bryce, got a link to send him the, the chat or send him, send him a message saying that we want him to come for a chat. It'd be good to have a conversation. I've pinned that link to the top for you guys. And so, let's get this first conversation started. Lauren, hello.

Yes. Hello, Ryan. Um, can you hear me all right?

Yes, I can. Good to have you here.

Thank you so much for the invitation. Um, so my question for you is that I have an acquaintance. Uh, she's got stage four cancer. Um, I met her as in a part of a, a, um, you know, doing a service for assisting kids. She's in her 30s. Um, and she grew up in a Christian household. That's what I don't know what that means, you know. Um, but, uh, I don't know if it was before or after her cancer diagnosis where she, um, became a Muslim. And, um, I feel like God's been putting it on my heart to to reach out to her and talk to her. Um, she had literally like just got out of the hospital after being in there for 3 weeks. So she almost died there. And I'm, uh, it sounds like we might have the opportunity to kind of talk. I, I said I want to hear her story about how she became, you know, a Muslim. And, um, I was wondering if you had any advice for, uh, sharing the gospel. You know, I printed out your script. I've been watching you for a few years, and I'll definitely watch some Muslim videos, um, some more of your videos. Yeah. After the chat, but I was wondering if you had any advice for that.

Yeah. So, yeah, you can be sympathizing and say, "Look, I'm sorry to hear about the cancer, um, diagnosis, but it does make us think of our own mortality. We're not guaranteed tomorrow." And so she has probably just gone into religion or spirituality to be like, "Okay, I need to find peace with God somehow." And so thinking Islam is the way. But there's no peace with God because even under Islam, there's no guarantee they're going to heaven. In Christianity, we have the guarantee of going to heaven because it's not based on works. Islam, it's based on works. Even Muhammad was not even sure about where he was going, whether he was going to go into heaven or not. So I would go through analogies with her and say, "Okay, so how can you get to heaven?" She'll say, "Do more good things than bad things." Okay, let's give you an analogy. In a court of law, if a criminal did more crimes than bad deeds, would the, would the judge let him go free? No. So that's the same with God. Doing good doesn't fix bad. And this is what they're going to say, "But God's different." Do you think God's going to be less just or more just than an earthly judge?

More just.

So I can say sure, there's differences, but only in the sense that God's going to be far more strict than an earthly judge and therefore will not show mercy at the expense of justice, which is what Islam wants God to do. And so just reason with her in that regard and then share with her, look, there's actually good news in Christianity which Islam doesn't have, and we've got a savior. 'Cause many people look at all the religions and they say, "Look, it's so confusing. There's too many religions." So many religions out there. There's only two religions in the world technically, in the sense of works-based religions and pure grace-based religions. And the only one that's grace-based is Christianity with a Messiah, Savior, who's, who dies for us. Every other religion, whether it's Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Catholicism, Orthodoxy, all those rely at least somewhat on works to get you to heaven. And that, that's clearly false because our works cannot save us. It's got to be what Christ did. He's the only savior out of all the religions. And so try to share with her and then be praying that God softens her heart.

Okay. Brilliant. And yes, and would you mind, uh, praying for her? Is that okay? Um.

Sure. What's her name, by the way?

Her name's Tanal. Um, and if you don't mind as well, if you could pray that God just, uh, makes me say the things that I should say and to not say things I shouldn't say.

Okay, that's a good prayer request. Heavenly Father, pray for Tanal. Do you pray that, um, Tanal's eyes will be open to seeing that Islam is not the one that she should be trusting in, but in Christ and Christ alone. And pray for Lauren. May You give her the words to speak to Tanal. And may that conversation go well. Um, Lord, You can change anyone's hearts, just like You changed ours. In Jesus' name. Amen.

Amen. Thank you so much. That's all.

Thanks for coming up. God bless you.

Very cool. All right, let's bring up Drew. Hello, Drew.

Hey, man.

Hello.

Hey, man. Hello.

Oh, I got a bit of.

Yeah. So, I think you got to make sure that you don't have the, if you're on the Streamyard, don't have the YouTube open as well because otherwise it could echo the sound. So, we'll see if Drew is going to come back. Um, we'll just give a moment while you're just waiting and I'm going to give you guys one trivia question. Here we go. Let's see. Okay. What was the reason why Mary and Joseph had to go to Bethlehem and that turned out to be where Jesus was born? Why did they have to go there? Anyone know? Put your answer in the chat. Let's see what people are saying. The answer is because of a census. That's correct. Caesar Augustus had ordered that the entire world, uh, be registered and so Mary and Joseph had to go to their hometown to be registered. All right, let's bring up Drew again. Hello, Drew. Can you hear me now? Oh, we might have, you might have frozen on us, Drew.

Hey. Oh, there we go. Can hear you now. Go for it. Um, let me start off by saying I became a Christian in August of 2020 because of some of the work you've done, some of your videos. So, so I've been wanting to talk to you for 5 and a half years now and it's an honor to finally meet you. I've watched streams, I've watched clips. You know, I've obviously in 5 and a half years, um, especially through my teenage years, there were times, there were months on end where my faith was very low and then where my faith was very high, ups and downs, but I'm happy to say now, um, where I'm at right now, I'm in college, college student, and I, I feel like I've been, um, loving Christ more than ever. I've always known Christ, but I feel like now I'm truly starting to love Christ. And, um.

Praise God.

Yeah, that's been really good for me.

So, would you say you're 100% sure you're going to heaven?

I am 100% sure. So, here's the thing I kind of want to talk about.

Okay.

Um, I've been going to a Catholic church recently. Um, every Sunday I'm going to Catholic church. And, uh, but with that being said, I want to know what you think about me going there. Even though when it comes to salvation, I believe I'm going to heaven solely because of what Jesus has done for me on the cross. It was paid, you know, 2,000 years ago, what's done is done. And I think the sacraments, like the Eucharist, um, baptism, um, confession, they're great things, and they really help me be more ordered and structured with my faith and, uh, bring me closer to God. But I don't think that's what is kind of getting me to heaven. So, what do you think, um, about that? So, as in, you agree that those play, those things play zero part in getting you to heaven?

I don't think that's why I'm going to heaven. I think that helps me be closer to Christ and know Christ better and be stronger in my faith and more disciplined. But ultimately, I think the only reason I'm going to heaven, even though I'm not, you know, a perfect person or a good person, is because of Jesus's sacrifice.

Okay. And so received by faith alone, would you say?

Yeah.

Yeah. So, not works. So, you, you would disagree with the Catholic teaching on salvation. Is that correct?

Um, yeah, pretty much.

Okay. So, then.

I think it's kind of blurry.

I think it's kind of blurry with Catholicism. Um, like they don't have a very clear line. Like it's a bit ambiguous. Sure, they, they can be confusing what they say, but at the same time, they're also very clear in not teaching the biblical way when they say things like, "All men may attain salvation through faith, baptism, and the observance of the commandments." Do you agree with that statement or would you disagree with it?

Uh, I guess disagree.

Okay. So therefore, whatever you may think you gained from the Catholic Church, they're not, they're trying to lead you astray to believe a false gospel because this would be a false gospel, a false message of salvation. And so then even if you think, "But oh, but it's given me more discipline." So could the Buddhists? The Buddhists could give you discipline. If you joined up with the Buddhist monks, they may say you can't do this or do that, and they'll give you a lot of discipline, but that doesn't mean that it's truly helping you, um, in terms of rest in Christ and be sanctified how God wants you to be sanctified. Do you see that?

Yeah. Yeah. Um, I guess one of the biggest reasons I, you probably hear this all the time, but why I started becoming more Catholic is because I heard someone bring up a point where it's like, Jesus died, right? And then the beginning of the church, builds it on the rock, Peter. But then someone like Martin Luther comes however many hundred years later and then starts like Prot, Protestantism. So it's like, what would actually make sense, you know, kind of tradition starting back when Jesus was around or just recently died or something hundreds and hundreds of years later? What do you think?

Catholic tradition is far too new. It's not, they don't rely just on the Bible. And in fact, they admit that. They actually admit that they do not rely exclusively on the Bible, which I think is embarrassing on their part because they rely on tradition that developed after the times of the apostles. So therefore, they don't have the most ancient faith. We've actually got, I, um, those who hold on to sola scriptura, scripture being the standard, have a more ancient faith than the Roman Catholic Church because you're not going to see the, the apostles ever teach the bodily assumption of Mary or her perpetual virginity or the things that they say that you've got to believe. They're never going to teach you that you've got to fast during the 40 days of Lent. Uh, they're never going to teach you that, uh, to get rid of mortal sins, you've got to go to a priest and, and he's going to then absolve them and then tell you to do an act of penance. This is not what the apostles taught. This is man-made tradition that developed a lot later. Jesus did not found the Catholic Church. That is a myth that they keep propagating and they've just blindly believed it. But it's not, there's not a single scriptural verse that teaches that Jesus started the Catholic Church. Instead, He started His church, which is not an institution. It's the people of God. Those who have their faith in Christ, not their works, they're part of the church. Those who hold on to works is playing some part, like what that Catholic catechism part quotation I just showed you. They're not even part of the church that Jesus founded. They're part of their own thing.

You see that?

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's interesting. So, I've heard kind of some ideas of like, this is separate topic, but like annihilationism. Do you think for certain hell is eternal or would you think you don't know or what, what's your stance on that?

Hell is definitely eternal. Jesus says that people go away to eternal punishment, um, and the righteous go to eternal life. So, hell's not just temporary. But I really think, and I think a downplaying of sin which happens in different systems, and I think it happens in Catholicism very much. They downplay sin. How do they downplay sin? By saying, "Oh, look, it's only really the mortal sins that really count in terms of losing a state of grace and things like that." And so therefore, if it's just venial, it doesn't really matter. If it wasn't done deliberately with full consent, then it's all okay in the end. No, all sin is serious. Every sin is serious. Not saying they're all exactly the same, but every sin is serious. One sin is enough to send you to hell for eternity. Which is why if they want to make salvation based on obedience to the commandments, at least partly based on what that quote here, um, then okay, so how you doing with that? Jesus summarized the commandments by loving God and loving neighbor. Are you perfectly loving God? Are you perfectly loving neighbor? No. Then every day you'd be failing this. We'd all be failing this.

So how can we be saved on this basis? And pro, by the way, Protestantism is not a church started in the 1500s.

Protestantism is a return to the Bible. It's a return to the Bible. The Catholic Church had made it illegal to read the Bible in the common language if you weren't a priest. And so therefore, they wanted to keep the Bible away from people. Same with the Orthodox Church. They said the Orth, the Orthodox Church in the confession of Dositheus says that the lay person should not be reading the Bible. That's interesting. Both institutions have historically said they do not want the lay person to read the Bible. Now the Catholic Church has changed the tune saying, "Okay, you can read it." But this is during, back in the Reformation time and said, "Praise God, God reformers to say, hold up, this is not right." Hiding the Bible away from the people, that's terrible. And then they said, "Let's just go to the scripture." So they had no interest in starting a new church. They didn't start a new church. They're just going back to the ancient truths taught in the pages of the Old and New Testament rather than all these modern inventions of purgatory. Where you going to see that in the Bible? Nowhere. The idea that you can do deeds now to get time off in purgatory either for yourself or for your loved ones who are already there. Where you going to get that in the Bible?

Kind of sounds like Islam.

Right? So don't get, so don't get attracted by any sort of feelings, smells and bells and architecture that they might have in the Catholic church. It's very deceptive because they proclaim themselves this is Christianity when in reality they deny an essential thing of Christianity, and that is salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.

Okay. Yeah, that, that does make a little more sense. I did have a question about, um, prayer. So, I kind of think of it like statistically. Say I have a basketball game and I have, I don't know if I'm going to win or lose that basketball game, but one person prays for me and then compare that to maybe 10,000 people praying for me. Does that 10,000 people praying for me, does that increase my statistical odds compared to one person or maybe no, no one praying for me? Or like, why do we pray if.

Yeah.

If there is no statistical advantage?

Because God is not a mathematical formula where you can just twist His arm by getting this amount of people and then He's going to have to do it because He had that many people praying. God decides to grant prayer requests according to His own will. It's not according to, um, what we want. We may want something to happen and God's will is not for it to happen.

It's just not His will and we can, we just got to be content with that. Um, but at the same time, it is good to ask people to pray because it gives people an opportunity to bring that request to the Lord. Those, then those same people, if God decides to grant it, will then be able to praise God for the great, the blessing that was granted through the prayers of many. So I'll give you a passage that talks about this. This is in 2 Corinthians 1:11, it says this. "You also must help us by prayer so that many will give thanks on our behalf for the blessing granted us through the prayers of many." So Paul's saying, Corinthians, you got to help us by praying for this thing so that many people give thanks to God for the prayer for the blessing that was granted us through the prayers of many. So God may see fit because there's a lot of people praying for that, He may see fit to answer that, but no, there's no guarantees of it either.

Okay, that makes a bit more sense. Still a bit confusing for me.

Yeah. Well, it's just up to God. If you have a look at First John 5, if you look in verse 14, and this is the confidence that we have toward Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. That's a, that's the confidence we have. If you ask anything that's in accordance with His will, He hears you. Now, we don't know if the thing we're asking for is, is definitely in accordance with His will. Like, we can know His, we can know His revealed will through scripture, but like, in terms of, you may pray that you get better quickly or your friend gets better, but it may not be God's will for you, or your friend to get better instantly.

May be a long prolonged thing and so.

Just be content. You can pray and God may say no and just be content because.

God's grace is sufficient for us and God's power is made perfect in weakness, as Paul said. And so if I'm sick and I'm, and I want to get better, um, and it's say I want to get better by tomorrow, and it's in God's will if I'll be better or not. Um, what's the point of me praying? So that you can bring that request and if it's His will, you can then praise God that He's granted that prayer request and God gets more glory. Now, if God doesn't grant that prayer request, it's helped grow you in contentment and be like, "Look, I wanted it. It wasn't God's will. I'm content and says it's made you more sanctified."

Okay. So, what I'm kind of getting at, correct me if I'm wrong, is it's not exactly to, like, for something like healing to get better. It's not for me to get better, but to be either glorify God or become stronger, like a.

Everything should be for the glory of God. Prayers, eating, drink, do everything for the glory of God. Um, but, and let me, let me just make clear. You're not informing God of new information that He didn't know before, right? He knows everything, the end from the beginning.

But it is an opportunity to bring your requests to God and His ears are open to our prayers. It says in First Peter, and so then bring it to Him. It changes you, makes you more holy, but then it also increases praise to God because you can praise God if He grants it or even if He doesn't grant it, you can still praise God that He heard you and it just wasn't His will and that His will is better than yours.

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I know you're busy. Can I just ask one more question?

Go for it.

Okay. Um, so Jesus came to abolish the law and kind of create what we know as Christianity today. So if, if God always had that planned, I understand the whole point of Jesus coming, but why not just, why have all these Jewish laws and then have them just be abolished? Why not just have the same consistent law all throughout?

Yeah.

Scripture tells us in Romans 3:20, "For by works of the law no human being will be justified in His sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin." So God gave the law to make people realize just how bad they were, that they've fallen short. Like, for example, Paul says, um, uh, "If it had not been for the law, I would not have known sin, for I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, 'You shall not covet.'" And then also in 5:20, he says, "Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more." So God gave the law, 613 very specific commandments, to make people sin more. That's what it means, increase the trespass. Not in the sense of that they weren't sinning already. They were, people were already sinning, but it gave people realization how bad they were, that they haven't just done vague general things wrong. They've broken 613 commandments so that it might humble them, crush them, and come to God for mercy. It also was another opportunity to, um, make the Jewish people look different. They're not just different in having ten commandments. They're different in, wow, they have to dress differently. They can't eat certain foods. They can't do certain things on certain days of the week. They have to do all these animal sacrifices. All of that is to make them look different. And those things then also pointed to Christ being the once-for-all sacrifice, um, for our sins.

So it was preparing it, basically laying a foundation for Christ to come and, and the new covenant. Hebrews says is enacted on better promises than the old covenant.

And what does that mean, better promises?

Well, better promises in that the old covenant was a very much, you want to live, you want to survive, you want to be blessed, obey, obey, obey, obey. If you do ever disobey, break these laws, you're cursed. You'll be hissing. You'll be exiled. You're going to be destroyed, right? That's, that's not very nice. That's like, sure, that's that's true. That's what we deserve for disobedience, but it's not very hopeful for us. And so, the new covenant, God does not base it on, "Do good to go to heaven," um, or anything like that. And remember, people weren't saved by works in the Old Testament either. But it was a covenant of, "You want blessing, it's based on performance." No one could, no one could obey. Therefore, that's why Israel kept getting punished and then exiled eventually.

And so that's why Hebrews goes on to say how much it's better, these better promises are enacted here in the new covenant. And so therefore, the old one is obsolete. It's done with. And, and it's Paul says, "The dividing wall of hostility has now been broken down by abolishing the law of commandments." Ephesians 2.

Yeah. Okay. And I'm sorry, this is like one more question. Um, why does it kind of seem like the character of God is different in the Old Testament, New Testament, with one the Father kind of showing himself more like speaking, um, you know, to the people directly, this and that, and also being more, um, righteously angry? And then why do you think it is different between the two?

I actually don't think it's different at all in that sense because the Old Testament spans a period of 4,000 years from creation to Malachi. Approximately 4,000 years.

And that's a long time. How many times did God speak to the people in that 4,000 years? There were there were times,

but it wasn't continual. It wasn't like everyone was getting new words from God all the time. It was just different pockets of prophets and miracles weren't happening all the time. It was just different pockets of prophets like with, um, Elijah and Elisha and Moses, those sort of people. It wasn't all the time. But then we also see God being wrathful in the Old Testament,

but also patient, kind. Instead of wiping out the people of Israel when they for their sin and worshiping golden calves, He let so many of them live. So we see His character being the same. In the New Testament, what do we see? We see God speaking by Himself coming down in the person of Jesus, right? That's, that's a major way in which God spoke. And we don't need new prophets around today, though, because we've already got the completion of scripture. Everything God wants us to know is all found there. It's able to make us wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. The scriptures are. But also we see God's wrath in the New Testament as well. Don't you see, say 2 Thessalonians, when it talks about Jesus, He's not meek and mild at His second coming. Have a look. It says, "When the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, inflicting vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus." That doesn't sound like very being very peaceful at His return. He's going to inflict wrath, judgment. You look at book, book of Revelation, there's so much wrath being poured out there. And Jesus describes hell as a place where people are weeping and gnashing their teeth. Matthew 8:12, out of darkness. So God, and God is the one punishing the people there, right? He's pouring out His wrath. Uh, Revelation 14:10 says that these people who go to hell will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of His anger, and He'll be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. So, this answers how long hell goes for. It's forever. And they have no rest, day or night. These worshippers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. Same God. Okay, that actually.

I want to ask you have, so you've recently been going to the Catholic church. Have you been going to like a, a Protestant church before that?

Um, I have, but not within like a year of being at the, at the Catholic church.

Okay. So.

I was traveling for.

So I, I walked across America last year and that took many, many, many months.

Across all of America?

Yeah. It was to raise money for a charity. Uh, it took about six and a half months. Took a year off college.

Okay. Fair enough. That was, that's a long walk. Um, so then what made you then say, "I'm going to join up with the Catholic church?" Like, is it friends that got influenced you there? Was it just online stuff?

Yeah, it was an online thing like, you know, a little bit of church history and all that stuff. Um, yeah, like it's, notice it's not the Bible that influences people to go to Catholicism. It's not like scripture tells me that faith and works, it's obedience to commandments that save me. It's.

Oh, that's interesting. What does this church father say? Or what is, what is this the architecture at this Catholic church like? That's the wrong things to be attracted by, completely the wrong things. And that's why you chat to the average Roman Catholic, do they read their Bibles every single day?

Answer: No.

Now, do you read your Bible every day?

Good.

When I'm in a good stretch, obviously there's sometimes, you know, like I'll miss a day and all that, but I, I try.

To I try to make an effort every single I read my Bible.

And so, uh, in light of what you know, you know that the Roman Catholic Church preaches a message of works, faith and works to gain eternal life. You know, it's a false gospel. What would the Apostle Paul encourage you to do? Keep attending that church and listening to their teaching or not attend but actually get away from them?

Probably get away.

Yep. So when when he addresses the false teachers in the Galatian church, he doesn't say it's all well and good. He says no, they are anathema. If anyone preaches another gospel, they are anathema, a curse from God.

So I recommend you find a good bible-believing Christian church that teaches the true gospel. That is going to be far better from you for you. And you're actually going to have a church that's probably have Bible study groups. Notice in the Catholic church, they don't have Bible study groups. Mine does.

They find it.

Right? They don't. No, mine does.

Basic. Yours does.

Yeah. Well, it's like one on campus here in San Diego. So, they're young people and

But not have you noticed that like in Protestant church, Christian churches, they'll have like half the church at least or probably in small groups that we meet meet up each week just to study the Bible.

With as as the group and they'll be reading their Bible every day. But then the Catholic Church that that's strange. Why would you do that? Because they tell you you're not allowed to interpret the Bible for yourself. At least not authentically.

Yeah. I actually did not know that. So it's interesting.

Yeah. So what are you going to do? You going to try find a different church?

Yeah. Well, so I'm in San Diego and there's a lot of great churches here. Like my family goes to one and I have some friends at another one and um some good churches here that I'll probably go to.

Okay. Awesome. Yeah, that'd be good for you, man. Hey, appreciate you coming up.

Ryan, like I said, I've known I've known I know you don't know me, but I've known you for over five years, and it is an honor. I kind of grew up like in these last five years, and it's been really cool to to see you progress as well.

Praise God. And just just before you go, so does someone need to get baptized to go to heaven?

No.

Of the Holy Spirit. But but

Okay. Yeah. If somebody thinks that they need to be water baptized to be saved, would they go to heaven or hell?

I think hell.

So therefore, when you gather on Sunday morning, you're not gathering with the saints. You're not gathering of believers if they believe a false gospel. You're gathering with a bunch of unbelievers. Church is a gathering of believers. See that?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a hard truth. And there's no need to go to confession then, is there?

I don't think there's a need to go to confession for salvation, but I think it like it makes me feel better. And

Just like going to a psychologist could make you feel better because you're getting off your chest what's on your mind.

Yeah.

Secular people do that as well.

It's not nothing wrong with telling others your your burdens. you know, bear one another's burdens and so fulfill the law of Christ. Galatians 6:2.

But the concept when in the Catholic church, it's not about just getting off your chest what's on your heart. Like what what's been going on?

I saw a sign the other day in a Catholic church where it says, "Don't explain why you did the sin. Just tell me what you did and I'll give you absolution then get out of there."

Notice it's not about I really want to hear what's going on.

Wow.

It's just tell me what you did. I'll give you absolution.

Let's get this over with. Yeah.

Get over. Yeah. And cuz there's a lineup. Usually you got one hour. You got to get 30 40 people to get confession and then some people miss out. Oh, sorry. Time's out. You can't get confession today. It's it's not like they're really wanting to know cuz this person just like cares so much about you. It's like I just have to give you absolution because this is the mechanism which they the church teaches is how you get forgiveness.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's interesting.

Cool.

Thanks, Drew. Uh, feel free to come back anytime you get more questions. Man.

I have so many. I probably will. So,

Okay. But do you have any any on this topic though of particularly Catholicism? Because I really want to make sure you're convinced on that. I don't want you to just go back to them and just go, you know, think that, oh, it's fine to still still keep going to the Catholic Church. Like, if there's anything that you want to push back on, I'm happy to hear it.

I mean, one of the only other things is I just wanted to know your thoughts on the Eucharist. if you think it's a symbol or if you think it's God's presence.

I I don't know if I have any evidence of either just because I'm kind of new to hearing and learning about it, but I want to know what you think.

Um I've done a few quite a few videos on that subject, but I will give you my opinion now. I would say that there's nothing scripturally that tells us that the bread and wine changes substance into the body and the blood of Jesus. There's nothing in scripture that indicates that. Um when Jesus says, "This is my body. this is my blood. I can agree with that. In what sense though is it his body and his blood? Is it in the sense of when Jesus says I am the door in a metaphorical sense that this you know points that Christ is the door to salvation and the bread points me to Christ his body broken and blood shed.

Right? The fact that he says do in remembrance of me is also indication that it must not really truly be Jesus if you have to do it in remembrance of him.

Right? If if it was really him you don't remember him. You're just with him.

Right? You're Yeah. So I think that's really important. Paul refers to it as bread. Even after quoting that line of Jesus, he said, "As often as you eat the bread." So he still called it bread. And under Old Testament law, which Jesus was under, he couldn't break the Old Testament law. You'd agree with that, right?

That Jesus couldn't.

Jesus could not break the Old Testament law. Do you agree with that?

No. Didn't he break it all the time?

No. by like the stuff on the Sabbath. And

No, that wasn't breaking the Old Testament law. There's nothing. Healing on the Sabbath was not forbidden. But in Galatians 4:4, it says this. But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his son, born of woman, born under the law. Now, if Christ is under the law, that means he's bound to obey it.

Okay.

And he did obey it perfectly. In fact, he was tempted in every way like we are and yet without sin. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that.

Right. And and by doing that, he actually redeems us from the law. Redeems those who are under the law so that we might receive adoption as sons. So therefore, if Jesus under the Mosaic law, the Mosaic law says you're not allowed to consume blood. Leviticus 17:10. If anyone of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people. So um Jesus, if he was actually eating blood or drinking blood at the last supper as well as his disciples, then that would mean Jesus and his disciples sinned. But Jesus could not have sinned. therefore shows that it's not the substance doesn't change to blood.

Okay. What if it started changing the substance after his resurrection?

Uh well then they can't use any of the arguments they already use about like this is my boy, this is my blood if because that was said at the last supper.

The second reason why that wouldn't work is that Peter and the apostles don't think they're consuming blood in Acts 15. The Jerusalem Council, if you remember the letter that they wrote to the churches, they said abstain from blood. So they think that they actually have do not um consume blood during the Eucharist. Then even in Acts 10, Peter says, "By no means Lord, nothing unclean has entered my mouth." Which would include this would be something unclean to eat blood. And so Peter, even in Acts 10, this is way after Jesus ascended up into heaven, he still has not consumed blood. unclean, but they're not bound by Old Testament law anymore. And it's Jesus's blood, so it's clean.

No, no, no. It still would be under Mosaic law would still be unclean under the Mosaic law. And that's why Peter saying because there was all these reptiles and birds and animals, and under Old Testament law, you couldn't eat those things. And so Peter Peter's like, "I've never eaten it. Never had anything unclean." Mhm.

And so therefore, Peter, even though he's not bound by the Old Testament law at that point, he's still trying to keep the dietary laws of the Old Testament.

Why?

Which means he would still be trying to keep this command.

Well, because maybe it was uh because he didn't want to cause offense amongst the Jewish people.

Um you know, that sort of reason. Like Paul became all things to all men that by any means possible he might save some.

So when Paul was hanging out with the Jews, he didn't eat pork. he wouldn't have eaten blood. But if he's hanging out with the Gentiles, he's feel he's he's happy to eat things like even meat sacrificed to idols. If he's with people who think it's okay to do that because it actually is okay.

Yeah. But you're saying during Jesus's life, he wouldn't do that because he was still under the law.

Correct. The Mosaic law was enforced until the death of Christ.

Okay. Until the death of Christ. So all 613 commandments that he was following,

Correct? Yep.

I actually did not know, man.

Yeah. Jesus kept every one of them.

So then why are all the Pharisees getting mad at him like when he's doing these things if it follows the law?

Because they're upset that he's breaking the Mishna, which is their additions to the Old Testament law,

Their so-called authentic interpretation of the Old Testament. basically the papacy equivalent the Pharisees had. Literally, they had something they called the tradition of the elders. Oh, you got to wash your hands in certain ways before you eat in a ceremonial way. And they're upset at Jesus. Why are you and your disciples not following our tradition, our authentic interpretation of the Old Testament law? And Jesus says, "You are elevating your traditions as commandments of God, and they're just doctrines of men." And that's exactly what the papacy does. They've made up all these extra commandments and doctrines and they're elevating as if it's from God.

Yeah, that's actually a great comparison. I uh I didn't know that.

Yeah.

So, there's no reason then to think that the bread and the wine turns into the body or the blood of Jesus.

Instead, it just points us to Christ. They believe that even you get forgiveness of sins by taking the Eucharist. That's not how you get forgiveness of sins.

The Catholics believe that. You're saying

Yeah. The Catholics believe that you get your sins

Forgiven uh venial sins forgiven through taking the eucharist. So for example, this is from the catechism of the council of Trent on the Eucharist. It says it cannot be doubted that by the Eucharist are remitted and pardoned lighter sins commonly called venial. Huh. Okay. Yeah. I don't know if I would agree that's how sins get forgiven.

Right? So, do you see then um okay if because if you challenge a Catholic on this, hey, where does the Bible say this? They'll say, "Oh, we don't believe in the Bible as the ultimate authority."

Like, so they always have to when they're backed into a corner like, "Can you prove it biblically?" They always resort to that's not our standard. The Bible's not our ultimate standard. It's one of our standards, but not the ultimate one.

Yeah. Okay. And then just with the that one verse on baptism where it's you must be uh born of the water and the Holy Spirit something like that. What is it referring to by water? Is it referring to

Like, you know, birth or the actual baptism of water or

Well, it doesn't say baptism of water.

Born of water.

Born of water. See that?

And and the spirit. So it doesn't whatever it means. It doesn't use the word baptism in there. So the natural reading is not going to be baptism. In fact, let's think about this logically. He says you can't enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and spirit. So therefore,

It's so it's an impossibility for anyone to go to heaven unless that condition is fulfilled.

Okay.

So did the thief on the cross go to heaven?

Uh yeah.

Yeah. Did Abraham go to heaven?

Yeah. Oh yeah.

And all the other Old Testament saints as well. Even all the prophets, it says they all end up in heaven.

And yet none of them got water baptized.

Okay. So whatever it means,

So whatever it means, it cannot mean water baptism because Jesus says without this, it's impossible to enter to heaven.

Yeah. And that would contradict, you know, the other people going to heaven.

Exactly. Exactly.

Wait. So water. So there's two there's two interpretations um you could two legitimate interpretations for this. What born of water is either it's referring to Ezekiel 36 which talks about God sprinking sprinkling clean water on us in a symbolic sense of representing forgiveness of sins and Ephesians talks about the washing of the water by the word. That could be what he's referring to there. Just when you know the spirit through the word illuminates your heart and brings you from death to life. That could be what it's referring to. Or the second way you can interpret it is the born of what is referring to your physical birth and then being born of spirit is the spiritual birth which is when the Holy Spirit makes you born again. Um and and and verse six kind of would then flesh that out. That which is born of flesh is flesh. That's clearly your first birth, right?

But that which is born of spirit is spirit, which is clearly then your second birth, which is when the Holy Spirit regenerates you.

Okay. If it was physical birth, then isn't that a confirmation that any let's say aborted babies wouldn't go to heaven?

Um, well, that's the thing is that only under the second interpretation, but the same I don't think that's the point of Jesus's statement here. He's chatting to Nicodemus. We can't just take the verse in isolation. We got to see what's the context here. He's talking to a man who's described as the teacher of Israel. And the Jewish people thought that they were right with God by their ethnicity. John said, John the Baptist said to the Jewish people, "Don't say to yourself, we have Abraham as our father." Because God's able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham. So don't find significance in your ethnicity for your salvation. Mhm.

Um, and so I think the point he's making is it's not your first birth that matters, Nicodemus. It's your second one.

That's what really matters, Nicodemus. So, he's not making a comment about

Where do where do unborn babies go? I don't think that's what he's talking about here. I just think he's talking about Nicodemus, it's not about your first birth that really matters. It's your second one. You got to be born again to even see the kingdom of God.

Wow. That That makes so much sense actually. The context of their conversation.

Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh my gosh. So clear, man. You're good at this.

Um does that clear up? Yeah. When I think

It does clear It does clear up. I wanted to know what your thoughts on the show The Chosen are.

Yeah, I think it's up to individuals if people want to watch it or not. personally have chosen not to watch the chosen uh just because even as the director said that he says that the show is a fictional account about characters of the Bible. He said it's fictional meaning it's not true. Well then I don't want to really personally I don't really want to watch fiction about I would rather non-fiction which is just truthful stuff about Jesus and the apostles rather than Yeah.

Than fictional stuff.

Yeah. So, I've been watching it and I'd say the only like fictional thing is kind of some conversations and a little bit of context they give to build up the characters, but the actual actions and everything that's happening, that's all like biblical.

But that's what fanfiction is, right? Fanfiction is where you take some true things and then you and build off that to make add extra stuff, fill in gaps and stuff like that.

Yeah.

Um, and people like as I think it's up to the individual. I I I'm not saying it's sinful to watch it or not watch it. Um

But just be careful because I know some people who have watched that who are like, "Oh, do you remember Matthew? How Matthew's autistic?" I'm like, "What do you mean Matthew's autistic? The Bible doesn't say that." Oh, the chosen does.

Mhm.

Like, "Oh, what?"

They're using it as their Bible.

Yeah. So, you see that they're getting wrong ideas about Jesus or the apostles based on the TV show

Because of all these extra details they've added in.

So, just be careful on that. I'd say if you were going to watch it, you'd have it with an open Bible and be like, "Hold up, that's not scriptural." That's

What I'd do. Go back scene to verse to

Yeah. But I'd say it has helped me because I mean reading the Bible, you know, it gets a little wordy and it the the chosen helps me really visualize what's actually happening while I go back and read the Bible.

Yeah. But I think and and that can be helpful. I think there are also like the Gospel of John is a TV show or movie that's directly like word for word or Gospel of Matthew word for word scripture. So, those may be helpful. Um, if it's not adding and stuff, ones I just stay faithful to like just what Jesus said, what the apostle said, they're the only things we're going to act in this drama or this movie. I think they would probably be better.

Okay. All right.

Yeah.

All right. Well,

Cool, man. Hey,

Thanks Drew. God bless you, bro.

Have a good day.

Good chat there with Drew and hopefully that's been helpful in clarifying some of those very important issues. Okay, let's bring up next. We've got uh Put. Welcome. Hello. Not sure how to pronounce your name.

N.

N. Okay. Hey, good to meet you. Yeah. What did you want to ask today?

Nice to meet you, Ryan.

Yeah. What What did you like to ask today? I can hear you.

Oh, yeah. I want to ask about like it's a personal question. So, I've been married for uh to a pastor for almost 8 years and then we separated about 3 years ago.

Okay.

And then Yeah. And then he remarried and now I want to know because I think I got a a a kind of a prophecy or whatever from God just telling me that uh he's going to restore my marriage. But then like I'm looking at how long it's going and then I'm not quite sure if I had him right or is it like biblically for me to uh reconcile or just let it go or remarry or what? I'm not quite sure.

Right.

Yeah, that's a it's a difficult scenario that you're in. But scripture I think is pretty clear on this and what you should do in that it says in verse 1 Corinthians 7 10 and 11 But can I write that down?

Go for it. Yeah, even you can feel free to replay this chat as well afterwards. You can because it'll be on YouTube so you can just replay it. Yeah, you can just replay it afterwards as well.

So 1 Corinthians 7:10, it says to the married I give this charge, not I but the Lord. The wife should not separate from her husband.

But if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband and the husband should not divorce his wife. So that is what

Um someone should do that stay married that's that's what you should be doing but if separation happens then either reconciliation is what you're striving for but if that's not possible

Then staying unmarried but going and finding somebody else and thus breaking your marriage vow I would say would not be something that God would promote. I think God wants us to be faithful because

Marriage is supposed to be picture of Christ and the church. And so even though we as the church go astray quite regularly sinning against God, God still loves us and he never will abandon us.

And so that's why I think we should uh husbands and wives should stay faithful. And even if your spouse is not staying faithful, that doesn't mean therefore you go and find someone else. Now you you keep your end of the bargain even if they're not keeping theirs because your vow wasn't contingent on them doing something. It was actually a blanket vow till death do his part. I'll love you for better or for worse.

Yeah. All right. Thank you so much. So another thing like doesn't mean that my husband is in adultery

As he

Uh it was yeah it was wrong and adultery for him to go and find another woman. Yes.

So he's basically in

Yes. But and so therefore if he was a pastor that would disqualify him from being a pastor. He's not eligible to be a pastor. He should not be pastoring a church if

I know I like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's not above reproach. He's not above approach. He's

Um he's would be violating the criteria of of what a pastor has to fulfill in 1 Timothy chapter 3.

Now when it becomes a little bit more difficult though when a person uh so remember the woman that was had five husbands that Jesus spoke to the woman at the woman of

Samaria. Yeah. know that's

So Jesus said you have had five husbands and the one you now have is

Not your husband what you've said is true.

Now we can't make too much of that because we don't know why she had viol was it because they all left do they all die maybe maybe they all died we don't know

Um but sometimes we could probably get from that some people get from that okay she might have left these earlier ones wrongly potentially but then she's gone with this one but Jesus said have had like in the past tense you have had five husbands. Not that you still have five guys you're still married to currently.

That's that's not a massively strong argument just because we're not given the details of why she doesn't have the five husbands

Anymore. Was it because of she had divorced them? Was it because they just all died? We just don't know. But some people try and make an argument from that. I would say when somebody does if someone does divorce and then they go and remarry somebody else that was an act of adultery

If their pre previous spouse is still alive.

Okay.

Are they in perpetual adultery? I'd say probably not. God has now recognized that new marriage.

Perpetual adultery meaning as in is it ongoing? It was adultery, an act of adultery for them to remarry. But was it is it like adultery every day? Is it contin um for until they die? Is it adultery? I would say probably not by leaning to probably not in that God could recognize the new marriage as being a legitimate one. Similar to how polygamy is wrong. It is wrong for a person to have multiple spouses.

And yet It's God could still recognize that extra marriage as a real marriage. And it's not like the person's in adultery necessarily if they had a second wife like David for example. It's not like necessarily in adultery the fact that he's married Bashibba even though he's already got Macau earlier on that he's married to.

It would for him to enter into it but it's not like he's perpetually in adultery. But wasn't it that David married Bashiba after the husband died? No.

But David was already married at the time to Muel.

David already had a

Had a wife. What are you doing, David? Marrying another woman while your wife's still alive. Like that was wrong. God kind of tolerated in a sense. Um so I don't

So I think it can be that it's a bit of a nuance thing. Can I encourage you? There's a good there's a good sermon on this topic. And this might be for everyone who wants to get dive a bit more into this subject. There's a good sermon by Vi Borham. Va V O D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D D I E E B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Borum B A U C H A M um on and the title of the sermon, it's on YouTube called the permanence view of marriage. The permanence view of marriage. It's a helpful one I think that goes into this topic and talks about what do you do in the scenario for what if they've already remarried? What what do you do? And then

I think that's helpful. Oh, okay.

Yeah.

All right. Well, thank you so much. Thank you so much.

And I ask you quickly, how sure are you out of 100, you're going to heaven?

100.

Yes. And why?

Because Christ died for me.

Yeah. Amen. Christ died for me. That's Thanks for coming up. God bless you.

Thank you so much.

Oh, God is good. All right, let's bring up Mason who's next. Hey Mason,

How's it going Ryan?

Good man. Yeah, what did you want to ask about?

I I wanted to talk a little bit about baptism. I'm not coming from the Roman Catholic perspective, more of a Protestant Anglican perspective. Just wanted to

Anglican.

Yeah, gotcha. Um, so one of my question I affirm faith alone. Uh, my question is I've heard you talk a lot about the law gospel distinction before, but you'll say baptism is a work. Why would you say you put it into the law category or more of the works category?

Sure. Yeah. I would say it is a work because it's a deed or an action. So what is works? Works is like me speaking right now is work. Me raising my hand right now that was work. Any of these external actions that I'm performing or doing, they're all works, right? And so me having lunch is going to be work

In a sense of I'm going God's going to make me give an account for everything that I've done. Even how I've eaten lunch, did I do it for the glory of God or did I not do it for the glory of God? Um even every careless word you utter, you'll have to give an accounts for on judgment day. So even if you are making a profession of faith, you're saying something before the minister, that's a work that you're doing there. And so you can't make those things the basis of your acceptance before God. It's got to be what Christ did. And I see no scriptural reason to say that baptism is not a work. Uh the only thing that the Bible describes is not a work would be faith because um that way we have no reason to boast. In Romans 4, I'll give you an example. Romans chapter 4 verse 16. It says that is why it depends on faith in order that the promise may rest on grace.

Amen.

So grace and works are opposite to each other. Uh in the sense that if the promise was received on the basis of any works that we do whether it be getting circumcised, getting baptized, going to church every week, uh getting dunked in some water, whatever it is, that's work and therefore it's not grace. So in order for it to rest on grace, it's only dependent on one thing only and that's faith. So I think faith alone is opposite then to adding extra additional requirements to receive justification.

So I guess kind of my question would be if do you think you could pull up Romans 10 chapter 9 where it talks about professing with your mouth?

So I guess kind of my question

I don't think this is how you get saved either. I don't.

No. Yeah, I know. It's like trust. It's trusting in Christ alone, right? But I guess my

I see this as an evidence of salvation particularly,

Right?

I guess my question is would you say like when you came to Christ, did you like pray a prayer or like how how would you say you came to Christ, you got saved?

Trusted that Christ took the punishment for my sins. There was no sinner's prayer. I don't think a sinner's prayer is a biblical thing where you're saved by a prayer. I I disagree with that. Now, if someone has faith, sure, they they'll pray. They begin to start praying to God, all those sort of things. But those are works that we do because we're saved. And in Matthew 6, it actually describes that you're even going to get rewarded in heaven for the prayers that you make.

Mh.

Um, you know, that's why we aren't to pray with the intention of others praising us. We do it for the approval of God. And so, clearly prayers are good works. If prayers are good works, then clearly going to church, baptism, and all those other things are works as well. I guess what interests me is how could you not put faith into a work category because you technically do something. I know it's a gift. God gives us the gift of faith, but we're still uh there. I guess just the way we think about it like we're doing something in that way. We we're having to think a thought. So why wouldn't you then put faith into a works category if works are just anything that is done?

Because work is are deeds or actions and is in contrast to rest. That's how BAG um standard Greek lexicon defines the Greek word urggon that it's deeds or actions in contrast to rest. That's what works are. So when I'm resting in Christ, am I working for my salvation? No.

Fruit you're having you're having good works as fruit, but the the works

Sure but not working for my salvation. Right. So right therefore faith is not me having to do any works. I'm not doing any deeds or actions. So faith is not an action that I do. It's a conviction that I have. Hebrews 11:1 faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. So there's no actions that that is faith. But faith leads to action. Sure. But faith in itself is just that conviction that you have in your heart that Christ is sufficient. It's paid for your sin and you're going to heaven on that basis alone. Well, I guess I guess what's just interesting to me like uh Titus 3:5, it talks about um

Him saving us through the the washing of regeneration. Then it talks about him pouring out his spirit on us. That that kind of sounds like water language. So even even if we disagree on whether that uh is about water baptism, I I still don't see anything in scripture pointing to baptism being a work just because it is some sort of physical means, some sort of physical action. I would still say it's an act of grace,

But anything could be an act of grace. You giving money to the poor is an act of grace. You can you go to work today as an act of grace. Everything's an act of grace, but that doesn't make it any less a work that you're also participating in. And so, the burden of proof is not actually upon me to show a verse that says baptism is a work. The burden of proof is actually upon you to show that baptism is not a work. And there's nothing in scripture that implies or explicitly says that uh this passage he saved us not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit. Regeneration is not by baptism. Never says it's by baptism anywhere in scripture. It's by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit made us born again. 1 Peter 1:3 says he caused us to be born again.

I didn't cause myself

God caused it.

And getting baptized is an act done in righteousness. Jesus said he got baptized to fulfill all righteousness. Therefore, if Jesus didn't get baptized, he didn't fulfill all righteousness. And therefore that would be wrong. Like he had to fill a righteousness and that was by doing or participating in the act of baptism. And so therefore clearly baptism is a deed done in righteousness. And Paul's saying we're not saved by works done in righteousness.

I guess my push back on that would be when Jesus was baptized, he was baptized by um John the Baptist and he baptized with uh baptism of repentance and not baptism of fire and the Holy Spirit. So, I don't I don't know. I don't see how

Because of the Holy Spirit and fire is not water baptism, by the way. That's just how we receive the spirit when we when we get saved. And but do you see my point? Did Jesus need to get baptized to fulfill all righteousness?

He had to get baptized as part of his ministry, I would say.

But was it to fulfill all righteousness as he said? So,

Uh I I I haven't seen this the passage exactly, but I'll take your word on it.

You haven't seen Oh, let me show. Oh, I thought, okay, I thought you were familiar with that. I'll go to it. Um, Matthew chapter 3. Um, it's around about verse 15 or so. So, basically, John's protesting, saying like, "What are you doing? Um, I need to be baptized by you, Jesus, and you come to me." But Jesus answered him, "Let it be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness." Then he consented. And that's when Jesus got baptized. So Jesus is doing this to fulfill all righteousness. So therefore, the deed of baptism is a deed done in righteousness. And if Jesus didn't do this, then he hasn't fulfilled all righteousness. And that'll be a big problem. And so therefore, if Titus is saying that we're not saved by any works done by us in righteousness, then therefore he's even excluding baptism here. I I don't I don't see how he's excluding baptism if it's the washing of regeneration. Because

That's that's not baptism. Why do you think that's baptism? Washing of regeneration.

Because I mean, if we go to Acts 2 chapter or Acts chapter 2:38 talks about

It doesn't say regenerate, washing of regeneration in Acts 238.

Well, what would you say regeneration refers to then? What is referring to God? God's Holy Spirit making us alive, causing us to be born again.

Right? And I think Romans 6 and then Acts 2:38 teaches that through the Holy Spirit, we're given forgiveness of sins and we're washed of our sins.

Not by water baptism. Never once by water baptism. But you've missed the point. I'm focusing on the part I've highlighted here.

Not because of works done by us in righteousness. Do you understand the connection I was trying to make with John the Baptist and Jesus?

Yeah. I still just think it's a different kind of baptism entirely cuz it was John's baptism.

You're still missing the point. It's whether it's John's baptism or it's Christian baptism. Was it a deed done in uh to fulfill righteousness?

His was, but it's still different. He didn't get baptized in the triune name. I wouldn't say Jesus did,

Right? We don't know. It doesn't specifically tell us name he was baptized in. So, yeah, sure. Like but baptism is still then to fulfill righteousness. If that act of baptism is a good deed and fulfills the law, then you getting baptized, me getting baptized is also a good deed that fulfills a command of God. It's a deed done in righteousness. And so if somebody gets baptized, they're doing a good deed. If someone has faith but fails to get baptized, are they doing a bad deed or are they are they being disobedient?

If they don't get baptized, I would say they're being disobedient. Yes.

Therefore, it must be a deed that's done in righteousness. Because if you don't do it, it's disobedience. It's unrighteousness.

I don't I don't think that changes the fact it can still be an act of grace. Because here here's how I would see it. If we read Acts 2, it talks about receiving the Holy Spirit after repenting and being baptized. But then

You haven't you haven't dealt with Titus 3:5.

You are trying to get elsewhere because I think this defeats your position. Titus 3:5. One was the John the Baptist argument. And the second is if you can say that people are being unrighteous or disobedient by not getting baptized. Therefore, getting baptized is an act of obedience. Correct? I I don't see how that follows.

If it's disobedience to not get baptized,

Therefore, it's obedience to get baptized.

Right. Well, you're trying to ask me about this verse, but then you're talking about obedience and disobedience. But this verse isn't referring to that at all.

Cuz I'm talking Okay. Okay. Because I'm talking about works done by us in righteousness,

Which would include all your obedience to God, to his law, to anything that he said. So you agreed it's disobedience to not get baptized.

So therefore logically it must be obedience to get baptized. Correct?

Well, I guess that would only follow if this verse is talking about water baptism and

I'm just asking. So you No, I'm just asking just generally you agree with that. It's obedience to get baptized. It's disobedience to not get baptized. Correct.

Yeah. It depends when like say an infant gets baptized, they can't reject to that.

Okay. But generally if you're just consenting to get if you're saying that I'm going to go get baptized in my church that's an act of obedience. So then therefore

I guess

You actually then you're basing your salvation on works done by you in righteousness. You're basing your salvation on your obedience.

I guess would you say I have a question. Would you say you can Would you say faith is a gift from God? Would you say that?

Yes. Faith is a gift from God. Everything is a gift from God. can say

Would you say we could reject the gift of faith or are we like

Well God is the one who changes our heart. He regenerates us by his spirit and therefore we willingly accept. There aren't many people who reject the gospel of grace. Sure. Um but for those whom God is working on they all u have a heart transformation caused by God and they all come to believe.

So if you can if you can reject the gospel then is that not being disobedient and turning away from something? I I just don't see how this is like a holistic view.

Right. But this is the difference is is that with faith as we saw in Romans 4:16 that is why it depends on faith in order the promise may rest on grace. Faith is not has no intrinsic value. It is not like you've done something good for God or you've done some sort of deed or action. It's a resting in what Jesus has done. But when you get baptized that's different. That's you. You're getting physically wet. You're doing an act of obedience. you're not being disobedient and so therefore it gives you a reason to boast. Similar to circumcision, people would boast in their circumcision. Paul said that look, I was circumcised on the eighth day of the people of Israel. He saw these as all his achievements. But then in order to gain Christ, what did he have to consider those achievements? Do you remember?

I don't recall.

Have you read through Philippians before?

Yeah.

Okay.

I guess I guess I'm just not remembering.

Okay, that's fine. So in Philippians chapter 3 he talks about these achievements um circumcised on the eighth day people of Israel persecuted the church but then he said verse 7 but whatever gain I had I had I counted as loss for the sake of Christ indeed I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord for his sake I've suffered the loss of all things and count them as rubbish in order that I may gain Christ. So in order to gain Christ, you've got to consider any of your deeds, actions, achievements, what's happened to you even as a baby, whether it's circumcision, baptism, you got to count it as rubbish. Rubbish like scuba is the word there. It's like a you have to consider it as excrement basically in order to gain Christ. And then verse nine, and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith. So someone's got to realize that my baptism doesn't save me, doesn't play any part. It's rubbish. And only then do you come with an empty hand to hold on to Christ, to rest in his finished work, and be saved. Well, so here's kind of my push back to that. So I would say my position is say an infant gets baptized or given faith. Say a a believer, they could be regenerate before baptism. I don't know because this is what I would say. I would say in the same way a lifeguard saves at a pool is the way baptism saves. But someone else could save you at that pool. That doesn't mean lifeguards don't save anymore. Right? Okay. So, if we go to first Peter 3, it talks about baptism now saves you.

That's not the context. That's not the context of first Peter 3.

Well, would you say it's say baptism saves?

Like, could I talk if you mean water baptism? If you mean water baptism is what grants you justification or right standing before God, then I'd say yes, that is wrong to say that. But that's not what Peter said. Peter was clearly talking about a spiritual baptism.

Two baptisms. You're saying there's like two separate B.

I'm saying the word baptiso in Greek, do you know what that word literally means?

Immersed. Yeah.

Right. And the context will tell us what the immersion is in. So Christ talks about an immersion in uh Luke 12:50, for example. I have a a baptism to be baptized with, and how great is my distress until it is accomplished. What do you What's the baptism he's talking about here?

Water baptism. No,

I I don't see I don't see how this follows. It's

Well, I do you realize do you know when Christ got water baptized?

I'm not sure what chapter now.

What st What stage of his ministry? Maybe if what stage of his All right. This is not the beginning of his ministry. This is not the beginning of his ministry. He already got baptized Matthew 3 way earlier. And this is Jesus talking about not his water baptism. He's already been baptized by John. He's not going to get baptized a second time, third time, fourth time. Instead, he's talking about the immersion of going to the cross. The persecution that he's going to go through. That's why he's distressed. He's not distressed. Oh no, John's going to dunk me in some water. It's I'm distressed. I'm about to be under the wrath of God for people's sins. That's what he's distressed about. All right. So clearly that same word baptism here is not talking about water.

Baptism. The context would tell us what the immersion is in. And that's similar with First Peter 3.

"Well, how does First Peter 3's context not teach water baptism if it's in relation to water?"

"Do you know what the context is? Have you read like verses 18 about Noah's arc?"

"No, that's not what 18 is about. That's what verse 20 is about. What's the context earlier on from that? Do you know?"

"Uh, but before we get dive into that, I just really want to just kind of get some more big picture things sorted out first. And that is..."

"If you stood before God and God says, 'Why shall I let you into heaven?' What would you say to him?"

"The work you did on the cross alone."

"Okay. And so if somebody has their faith in Jesus Christ but then they don't get baptized, would they go to heaven or hell?"

"I would say if they had every opportunity to and they didn't, even if you don't think baptism saves, would you not say that's directly disobeying a command Christ has given you? Even even though say a command doesn't justify you, right? But you're actively rejecting Christ your entire life. Why would you get into heaven if you're rejecting Christ your whole life?"

"Because if your trust is in Christ, you're not rejecting Christ altogether. You may be sinning against Christ just like you do and I do in different ways, but that doesn't mean like if you're basing salvation on obedience to Christ, you don't you're not resting in Jesus. You're relying on yourself."

"Right. So Christians can be disobedient to commands of God, right? They can not share the gospel when they know they should share the gospel. They may not be as generous to the poor and to other people as they should be. Does that mean they're not saved even if they're willfully doing that? They're still saved if their trust is in Christ alone. Do you see?"

"I see what you're saying. But even you said earlier that someone who has true faith that they will have works as fruit. Works will flow, uh, flow from that. And baptism seems to be a pretty important thing. Everyone who has faith in the book of Acts, they're immediately baptized. So..."

"They at least saw it work that every Christian will have. It never says that."

"I guess why do you think you don't need to be baptized if Mark 16:16 says you need to believe and be baptized?"

"So, not for if you're talking about for salvation. I think Christians should get baptized, just not for salvation. You're saying they need to for salvation. Is that your position?"

"I don't like to use that language because I don't want to use absolutes. I would say it's generally necessary for salvation, but there's going to be exceptions. The Bible never says..."

"Which the problem with your position is..."

"The problem with your position is that then..."

"You got you and another person. This other person has faith in Christ. Maybe they're bearing fruit in all these other ways, but they just don't get baptized. They maybe choose not to get baptized. Whatever reason, you you have faith and you get baptized. On your view, you go to heaven. The other guy goes to hell. What was the difference?"

"Uh, so Romans 6 talks about being united to the death of Christ and the resurrection of Christ through baptism. So I would say..."

"No baptism there either. Well, the thing is..."

"Romans 6, just like John Luke 12, is not about water baptism. Romans 6 is not about water baptism. Context tells us what the baptism is in. But in that example, you're going to have to say, well, I did the obedient act of getting baptized. That other guy was disobedient and not getting baptized. So, you're going to heaven by your obedience, by your works, compared to the other guy. And so, you'd have a reason to boast."

"I I don't think baptism is a work because it's never used that way."

"It doesn't matter."

"It does matter. I I would say it does matter."

"Can you give me one verse in the Bible which says baptism is not a work? Cuz you have the burden of proof cuz you're asserting it's not a work. Could you get one verse that proves that where it says baptism is not a work or something along those lines?"

"Could, yeah. Yeah. Could you go to Acts 22:15 or sorry 16?"

"It doesn't say it's not a work there."

"No, I I know. I guess..."

"You're just going to the classic verses we talked about. This is not. Can you give me give me one verse? Just one verse that says that baptism is not a work."

"Can I at least explain what I think this is saying?"

"This is not this is not actually not saying whether it's a work or not. Can you just deal with that?"

"Right. No, no, I understand. What I'm saying is it says, 'Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins.' I don't think I can save myself. I don't think I can get rid of my sins. So, I think this is Jesus washing away those sins through baptism."

"It doesn't say through baptism. You've misread it. It doesn't say get baptized to wash away your sins. You've misread it. It says, 'Be baptized and wash away your sins.' So, it's actually saying that it's not connecting them with that. It's just saying, just like rising. Is rising connected with washing away your sins?"

"No."

"So, if it said to wash away your sins, would you then say it's about that?"

"Because said if it if it used different language, if it was like, yeah, to get your sins washed away, it's through baptism, through water baptism or something like that, then that would be okay. But it doesn't say that. It just..."

"What about the language? What about the language in Acts 2:38? 'Repent, be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins.'"

"Yeah. Yeah. I've I've got numerous videos on that. I'm not sure if you're familiar with the argument."

"You say the Greek word means 'ice,' but it's never been."

"And the Greek word is 'eis.' It's not."

"Yeah. It's 'eis,' and you say that means, uh, not to obtain or for. It's like because of. But that is never used. 'Eis' has never says because as because in the whole Bible. Are you sure about that?"

"Yeah."

"Can you show me where it says because where the Greek word..."

"You can pull up like the Blue Letter Bible, it'll use the Greek. You can see men of Nineveh because..."

"Will rise up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it for they repented 'eis.' This is the Greek word 'eis' here. The preaching of Jonah. Now, did the people of Nineveh repent to get the preaching of Jonah or because of the preaching of Jonah?"

"Could you could you pull up the Greek there? I'm not I don't really know if that's 'eis'."

"Okay, let me show you."

"Yeah."

"So, in verse 41 here, verse 41. Okay. So, the word is 'eis.' Same word. Exact same word that's translated in Acts 2, that's in Acts 2:38, it's translated as 'for.' Here it's translated at with this meaning of 'because of,' not the meaning of 'to get.' They're not repenting to get the preaching of Jonah, which is how you're trying to interpret Acts 2:38. They're repenting at or because of the preaching of Jonah."

"Right. I a lot a lot of the verses I've shown you say the context is important. But if we go to Acts chapter 2 when we read past that..."

"Hold so hold. Are you going to concede the point?"

"Oh, I I'd have to learn more about that. Yeah, I guess it's not always 'for.' It can mean..."

"You just said, 'Oh, 'eis' is never 'eis' is never translated that way. It's never meaning um at all because of.' I just..."

"Oh, I never said at all. I just said because of. And that doesn't say because..."

"Which is which is what this is saying. Are they repenting because of the preaching of Jonah or they pre preaching? Oh, sorry. They're repenting to get the the preaching of Jonah. Which one is it? They're repenting at the preaching of it as as it says as it's trans."

"So as a result of. He's saying as a result of. Correct?"

"Yeah."

"There you go. You've defeated your argument then. So then if this can legitimately if that word if 'eis' is can legitimately be translated that way, then therefore it's in the semantic range for it to be translated that way also in Acts 2:38."

"Yeah, I guess I would concede that it's possible that that's what it could mean. And so then what are you relying upon to believe in baptism getting you to heaven? What what verses? Because you can't rely on Acts 2:38 to rely on that then as baptism. If if it can legitimately be translated um as because of or at, then what are you going to rely upon to prove a definitive case that you've got to get baptized to go to heaven?"

"So what I think what you're do what you're doing, sorry, what you're doing is every time I point out another verse about baptism, you say the context is important, not the direct words is what's important. But then in this verse, we only look at the word 'eis.' We don't look at, well, the context said 3,000 souls were added to the church after they were baptized."

"No, it doesn't say, man. You're just reading misreading text. It doesn't say they're saved as a result of getting baptized. Instead, in fact, the question that was asked, did those people ask the question, 'What must I do to be saved?'"

"Yes, they did."

"No, you don't know your Bible. In Acts chapter 2, verse 37, they do not ask the question, 'What must I do to be saved?' It says, 'Now when they heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, Brothers, what shall we do?' They don't ask, 'What shall we do to be saved?'"

"Is that not like an exact question? I asked you, did they ask the question, 'What must we do to be saved?' And you said yes. There is one time when that when someone was asked that question. Let me bring that up. That's in Acts 16:30. Uh, then he brought them out and said, 'Sir, what must I do to be saved?' So, this is someone in the Bible who was asked that question. And then what was Paul and Silas's response?"

"'Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.'"

"So, is believing sufficient for someone to be saved?"

"I here's what I think you're doing. You take verses about faith."

"Yes or no. Is it sufficient according to Paul? Is it sufficient for you to be saved?"

"You're trying to pin me down. I don't I don't want to get cut off. Like no disrespect, but what I'm saying is if scripture says baptism saves and then it says faith also saves and to have a holistic view, we would say it's all faith. Baptism, we're given faith or we're confirmed faith. So faith..."

"My question though is, is believing sufficient for you to be saved?"

"'Believe.' Mark 16:16. 'Believe and be baptized to be saved.' 'Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved.' That doesn't say believing is not sufficient. So I'm asking, is believing? Notice you don't like the fact that the passages that really defeat your position. You squirm and you try and get away. Can you answer my question? According to Paul, is believing sufficient to be saved?"

"Would you say scripture contradicts itself?"

"Scripture doesn't contradict itself. So yes or no. Is it sufficient or not? Just answer. It's a yes or no. If you think it's no, just tell me no. It's not sufficient. Okay."

"Ryan, I think you're trying to I think you're trying to trap me and say I think my works saved me. But I that's not what I'm claiming."

"I'm I'm simply asking you a simple question. Is faith or believing sufficient for you to be saved?"

"'Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved.' That's what I believe."

"So So your answer is no. That believing is not sufficient to be saved. Is that your answer?"

"The way you frame this is you're saying it if if belief is just mere intellectual assent, no. But if it's a true trust..."

"I'm saying when believing when it says 'believe in the Lord Jesus and you'll be saved,' is he speaking about the sufficiency of believing in Jesus and that being sufficient for you to have eternal life?"

"Ryan, I believe faith saves, but I want you think about. No, I don't. I don't want I want to make theology about baptism on verses about baptism."

"And not be saved. At this point, we're talking about how to be saved. This is the important question. Cuz at the moment, if you hold on to your baptism as playing a part in getting you to heaven, you are not saved. And I say this respectfully and with love. And that's why can I encourage you to back down from your position. Don't believe your position because your church tells you that. Believe what scripture says. That's..."

"And if Paul is correct in saying believing in the Lord Jesus is sufficient for someone to be saved, which you are, I don't know why you are unable to answer a simple question like that. Is believing sufficient to be saved? Paul says yes. You say you don't want to answer."

"Mark says no."

"Wow. There you go. So you've answered that. You said believing is not sufficient. Now where does Mark say?"

"Okay. So at least at least you've answered my question. So you said no, believing is not sufficient to be saved because you think you said that Mark says no to that. But if you go to Mark 16:16, which by the way, hopefully you're aware of textual issues. But besides the textual issue, that's not in the earliest manuscripts. Let's just treat it as if it was just for the sake of this argument."

"'Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.' Where does it say that a person who believes and is not baptized will be condemned? Does it say does it speak about that?"

"Why does it need to say that?"

"Well, because you're trying to make the argument that believing is insufficient to save you. Where does this verse say that believing in Christ is insufficient to save you?"

"It doesn't need to say that. It's the same way if you say, 'If you want to pass the class, go to class and study.' But if you don't study, you're not going to pass the class. That doesn't mean you don't need to then go to class at all to pass the class. Well, it's like me saying to you, 'Catch the plane and put on your seatbelt to get to your destination.' Well, you can catch the plane, but you may not put on your seatbelt, but you'll still get to your destination. Putting your seatbelt on was not a requirement to actually get to your destination. Getting on the plane was the only requirement. And that's what he's talking about here. And that's why he says the only people who are condemned are people who what? Are not baptized? Or who don't believe? Which one?"

"The one who doesn't believe."

"There we go. So therefore, it sounds like even according to Mark 16:16, the only thing that's required for salvation is believing."

"I guess my question is, every time the word baptism is used and the whole church from the apostles up until Zwingli, it's all been interpreted as baptism, but now you're saying it just means emerging. Why is everyone wrong? But you're right."

"It's not. You've just miss you've missed when Paul uses the word baptism. 'Baptizo,' he uses it in a different sense, not always referring to water baptism."

"Right. I understand. I'm just saying where..."

"You said from the apostles. You said from the apostles. I'm getting this from the Bible. I'm getting this from the apostles."

"And so you're getting it from your church."

"Disagreeing what it means."

"You're getting it from your church."

"I notice how as soon as you bring up the verse and we show how it doesn't prove your case, you're not willing to concede. You're not going to say, 'Okay, you're right about this.' It doesn't say that believing is not sufficient. So, when you said Mark says, 'No, believing is not sufficient to be saved.' Are you going to back down from that statement?"

"Now."

"The reason is I had my metaphor and then you had your metaphor."

"Yes or no? Are you going to back down from when you said Mark says that believing is not sufficient to be saved?"

"Why is your metaphor correct and mine's wrong is my question."

"How do you know you're right? Just wait. My question was back. I'm just I'm trying to have a civil discussion. I'm not having a civil conversation. You just slandered the you slandered Mark by saying that he he taught that believing is not sufficient to be saved."

"So, are you going to hold on to that that Mark still you think Mark still thinks that believing is not sufficient to be saved?"

"Baptism and faith by inspiration of the Holy Spirit."

"Baptism and faith are connected."

"That's what I would. And so, and so you're saying you're not backing down from your slander of God's precious word."

"I'm not I'm not slandering God's word. I'm just simply asking if we're both reading the same text, right? Why is my interpretation wrong and yours is right? Like where..."

"The text doesn't say what you say. You tried to say that this verse says believing is not sufficient to save you. We read out the verse and it doesn't say anything about not it doesn't say that believing is not sufficient to save you. I I don't see how I don't see how your interpretation."

"Can I encourage you to come to this with humility? Come to this with, okay, well, maybe my church is wrong about this. Maybe my beliefs are wrong on this, and I just want to believe what scripture says. And scripture tells us time and time again, we're justified by faith. Not justified by baptism or any extra works or any other things. Just faith. Now, what what is faith? Do you think..."

"It is. What is it?"

"Uh, in Hebrews 11, it's trusting in the things to come and the promises to come."

"Okay. So, someone has their trust in Christ that Christ paid for their s."

"All right. They got their trust in Christ. He paid for their sin and they don't get baptized, but they've still got trust in God's promise, Christ's sacrifice to save. Then where do they end up?"

"Here's the thing. I I don't want to speak in absolutes because scripture even says..."

"Biblically, if they got justified faith, a faith in Christ, where do those who believe in Christ end up regardless of where they're baptized or not? Where do they end up?"

"Those who believe and aren't baptized, I can't judge them. I don't know."

"Does scripture tell us? Does scripture give us any indication of what happens to those who believe?"

"John 6:47. 'Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.' So if someone believes and even if they haven't got baptized, what do they still have according to Jesus?"

"Eternal life."

"There you go. Therefore, baptism can't be a requirement, man. Don't add extra requirements. You're being like the people in Galatians who are adding extra requirements for salvation. You know what Paul said to those people? He says that they were accursed."

"Yeah. And he actually even goes on to say that they're that if if the Galatians were to accept this idea, they would be having Christ be of no advantage to them and they would be severed from Christ, cut off from him. And that's the danger you're in right now. At the moment, you're cut off from Christ. You don't have Christ being of any advantage to you at this point because you're wanting to add extra additional requirements for you to get to heaven. You don't think resting in what he's done is sufficient without your baptism. But I've already said that baptism gives faith. It confirms faith. It's still ultimately all faith. My question is I I want to go back to the law gospel distinction thing, right? We don't think works save us. Baptism is repeatedly referred to as Christ saving us. 1 Peter 3, Romans 6, Titus 3:5, Acts."

"Those passages do not talk about water baptism."

"It. What's odd to me, why would Paul decide to use the word baptism when there's this thing that they do where they baptize people? Like, isn't that just a little confusing? Like..."

"Just because you get confused with a word doesn't mean that that Paul shouldn't have used that word. It just means you should be more informed of what that word means. And it has a bigger semantic range than simply referring to water baptism. And I've already shown you the example in Luke 12:50."

"Because Christ, how did Christ use the word?"

"He didn't use it just in referring to water baptism. He used it. Even John the Baptist used it just in relation to receiving the Holy Spirit, not water baptism."

"Well, here's what confuses me. So, we went over 'eis,' the Greek word 'eis.' That word can be used in multiple different ways. But baptism can only be used in one way, and it's the way you assert. Why can't it be used in reference to water baptism?"

"It means it means immersion. And also just wait..."

"The context will tell us what the immersion is in. So there are times when let's say in the book of Acts where it talks about here is water prevents me from getting baptized in Acts chapter 8 with the Samaritan, I mean, uh, with the Ethiopian eunuch, and we see that that's clearly the context in of that immersion 'baptizo' there is referring to water baptism. But when I asked you about Romans 6..."

"Galatians or any of these other passages you want to refer to where does the context refer to water in those passages?"

"Uh, one of them is First Peter 3 where it talks about baptism now saves you, not removal of dirt from the flesh, but appeal to God to good conscience. Does immersion into Christ, which is belief, is it remove dirt from you? What does that water do that..."

"Well, because he's actually making clear, I'm not talking about any sort of ceremony. I'm not talking about some sort of external action. If you have a look at the analogy in 1 Peter chapter 3:20, um, he's referring to it's not water that saved you. The water was the judgment. The water was the thing that killed the people. What saved the eight people back in Noah's day was the ark, and whether you were immersed in that ark. And so corresponding to that, we have an ark. And that's why I encourage you, have you read the context? Have you read what verse 18, 19, and even before that? What it's talking about here? The context is not about giving a theology of, uh, baptism of water baptism. Instead, he's talking about how amazing Christ is and what Christ has accomplished. If you have a look at 3:18, he says, 'Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit.' So..."

"How does that show it's not about baptism, though?"

"So, the point is..."

"Christ is mentioned."

"Because the whole what's what's po what's Peter's point? Don't just rip a verse 21 out of context, which people often do. What's the flow of his argument? What do you think is the flow? What is the flow of the argument in First Peter? What would you say?"

"I would say this is directly linked to Romans 6 where through baptism we're immersed."

"I'm saying what's the flow of the argument of what is Paul? What is Peter's point in First Peter? What's the flow of his argument?"

"Christ alone is righteous. We're unrighteous. So, we need him to save us."

"You're just quoting verse 18. I'm saying the argument of First Peter. What is Peter's argument in First Peter? Christ suffered for. I'm I'm confused what I don't I'm confused how this is not about baptism."

"Because if I'm if I'm to quote somebody, if I was to say quote, um, an argument of yours, I'm not going to take point number six and be like, 'Ah, this is his position. Point number six.' I'm going to go to point number one and go through the entire thing, otherwise I might have taken you way out of context."

"What would you say about then?"

"Right. So Peter, he's addressing how we ought to, um, it's a it's an encouragement to continue in Christ despite persecution. He's talked about how if you suffer for righteousness' sake, you're blessed. Christ was the example of that. How he didn't revile in return. Um, he then gives practical instructions and three about how to or two is about submission to governments. Three, submission of wives to husbands. And then here in three, he's talking about what Christ has accomplished for us and how our ark is Jesus. And he's not like a wooden vessel that's decomposed now and gone. He's risen from the dead. He's at the right hand of God. And he's, um, got everything subjected to him, which is his point in 22, right? He's gone into heaven. He's at the right hand of God with angels, authorities, and powers having being subjected to him. And in the light of that, now flee from sin. So he's going through basically the gospel in a sense at this part of chapter three. And so then about what what Christ did and how we're in him. So in light of that, live differently, right? That's the point. So in just back to the analogy though in 21."

"You weren't saved if you were in the water. You were saved into the ark if you're in the ark. And so immersion, which corresponds to this, now saves you. What immersion? They're in an ark. Oh, we're in an ark because our ark, um, is uh resurrected. It says here through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He's in gone into heaven and with everything subjected to him. So I don't see anything in the context telling us that the ark that we are to be immersed in is water."

"Just nothing in the context would indicate. Same with Romans 6, same with Galatians. But we can't because there are other other people waiting. I do want to kind of maybe just wrap us up in just a moment."

"Do you see my concern with if Galatians tells us adding anything extra, any extra commands, acts of obedience as a requirement, cuts you off from God. Do you see that as a concern then? If someone is to say add sharing the gospel on as an extra requirement to be saved, would that be a false gospel or a works-based gospel in some sense?"

"I think it matters how you frame it because I think all Christians would affirm if you're a true Christian, you should do good works. Therefore, if you are a Christian, you will do good works. But that doesn't mean it justifies you. I feel like the way..."

"Let's say someone thinks it's a requirement though. Let's say they think it this is a requirement. Got to share the gospel with at least one person in your life in order to go to heaven as well as trusting in Jesus that Jesus died for you. Is that a fine thing to believe or would that be a false gospel?"

"I would say that's a very inaccurate way to frame it. I would say probably the best way to frame it is Christ alone saves us, faith alone saves us. But if we're truly saved, we will do good works."

"You didn't answer good works. So this person thinks it's a requirement. Go to share the gospel with at least one person to be saved. Otherwise, you go to hell. Is that okay to believe that or not? Yes or no?"

"If that's how you frame it, no. I would say no."

"So, that person would go to hell."

"If they say they're good works, I I think again, I think it's how you..."

"Let's say they say it's not a good work. Let's say they say, 'Oh, it's an act of grace to go and share the gospel with someone else.' One person, it's it's clearly still works even if they don't want to frame it as works. See that? I I see what you're saying, but if if they say their works justify them, I would say that's very different from saying they do good works because they love Christ."

"But whether they use the language of my works justify me or not, scrap that for a moment. Let's just say they say it's an extra requirement to be saved is to do this. In essence, they're saying their works justify them, even if they don't use that language, right?"

"I I don't think that follows. Well, what were the Galatians doing in Galatians 5:2? Paul says, 'If you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.' So, if you just make circumcision some extra requirement to be saved, Christ won't save you. And then he goes on to say, 'You are severed from Christ. You who be justified by the law, you have fallen away from grace.' So specific, but notice by adding one extra requirement which is contained in the Mosaic law, they're seeking to be justified by the law. See that?"

"Right. And I don't think uh a Christian who holds a faith alone but says you need to do good works is saying it justifies them."

"If you make it if you say that the works are a requirement to do in order for God to accept you into heaven, you are seeking to be justified by those works. You're seeking seeking to go to heaven at least partly by those works. And so if that work was sharing the gospel, you would not be sent led into heaven. If that work was baptism, you'd also not be led into heaven if you make it as an extra requirement to get to heaven because you're not then relying on what Christ did."

"But yeah, we should we should wrap this up though. Can I just ask Thanks for coming up, man. Yeah."

"Is it is it cool if I ask one more question before I go?"

"Okay, go for it. Yeah. So, you're talking a lot about being immersed into Christ. Are you saying you're immersed into Christ through faith? Is that is that your argument?"

"Yeah. So, God Christ."

"Yeah. So, we have Let me There's a couple of different verses."

"Like word for word, you're mercif I'm not I'm not asking like an exact word fallacy. I'm not doing that. I'm saying either it could be explicit or implicit. But there's just nothing in scripture that explicit or implicitly tells us that baptism is not a work or that it's some sort of extra requirement to be saved. I don't think anything explicitly or implicitly. But in terms of how do we get justified? How do we get in right standing with God? I think I can go to lots of different passages that talk about that surface level into Christ through faith."

"It speaks about how therefore since we've been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him, we have also obtained access by faith. So, not baptism, by faith into this grace in which we stand. And we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. So, I'm standing in God's grace, the grace of God, justification, um, simply by faith. That's how I got in. If I got in by faith and I'm I'm only going to stay in by faith, it's not going to now stay in by works, right?"

"Yeah. Never once attaches justification or entering to grace based on baptism. Yeah, appreciate your questions, man."

"Of course. Thanks for having me on, Ryan. You have a great night."

"See you, man. Yeah, may Mason come to trust that it's like he says it's Christ, but then if you make the means of accepting the gospel, baptism, that's a problem. Just like those who made the means of accepting the gospel as circumcision, Paul says the problem. All right, let's bring up next. Uh, let's have a look. Chase. Hello, Chase. You there? Oh, we might have lost your. Hello, Chase. Are you there? I can't hear your sound at the moment. I'll give you just a moment to get that sorted out. Oh, there we go. Hello, Chase. I can see."

"Hey, can you can you hear me?"

"I can hear you. Can you hear me?"

"I cannot. Um,"

"Can you can you rejoin?"

"Rejoin."

"Reload the page."

"Yeah."

"Okay."

"All right. Cool. All right. So, we'll get him to do that. So apparently Chase is the person who had that debate with Frank Turk. Is that correct?"

"Yeah."

"All right. That'll be interesting. We're gonna have a conversation with him. So I just put out a video early on today. You might have seen it when Frank Turk was had a debate with a college student, a Catholic, and had a back and forth. I made a response a review of that. And so let's see if Chase we can he can hear our sound now. All right. Hey, Chase, can you hear me now?"

"Yes, sir, I can."

"Awesome. Good to have you here."

"Perfect."

"So, tell us, did were you the man who had the debate with Frank Turk?"

"I was, even though my hair doesn't look like it. Um,"

"I I I did cut I cut my hair a couple days after, but yeah, I I I did I guess you can call it debate. I I don't want to view it as a debate. I just try and view it as like dialogue between Christians. um just trying to investigate, you know, the truth the truth of claims because as Christians we're all we're all out for out for truth. So,"

"And you mentioned like at the Council of Trent, for example, they didn't outlaw faith alone, but at the same time, you don't hold to faith alone, do you?"

"Well, I think um real quick before I don't have a ton of time. I was actually driving and I I pulled over to be able to talk to you real quick. I don't have a ton of time. I I can answer a couple questions, but I was going to ask um would you be able to have like a little bit more of a formal dialogue, I guess. Do do you stream at the same time every night?"

"Yeah. Yeah. So, if you can't fully chat now, we can definitely chat tomorrow. Um, or the day after. Yeah, we we I stream usually t Monday through to Thursday about this time. We do viewer chats."

"Okay. Okay, cool. Um, so, Monday, I'm sorry, Monday through when?"

"Uh, Thursday."

"Monday through Thursday. Okay. Um, until what time for I'm on I'm on Eastern time?"

"Yeah. So, we start the viewer chats at 8:00 p.m. Usually about 8:00 p.m. Eastern time."

"Okay. Um, yeah, I will try and get on. I have I I still have like fiveish minutes right now, but um"

"Okay. I'll try to find a time."

"So, I just want to clarify. You said Yeah. In terms of faith alone, do you hold to faith alone? Personally,"

"It just dep I think it depends define define what you mean by faith alone. Um because what I mean by faith alone sorry yeah I'll just tell you what I mean then you can explain. So I would mean that we just trust in what Christ has done that his sacrifice is sufficient to get me to heaven without me having to contribute with good works, sacraments, um any of those sort of things. But Jesus sacrifice is enough to save me and get me to heaven. Um, well, so I just want to clarify you you kind of you presented it in a little bit of a confusing way at least enter into the Catholic framework. I mean, you can disagree with it, but I I just want to explain the Catholic framework because the way you presented it, it isn't consistent with like what we believe as Catholics. We don't view the the sacraments as like a thing we do to add on to Christ's work. We we view the sacraments as the means by which we receive Christ's finished work on the cross. I mean, we don't we if if we view the sacraments as like a good work that adds on to it, that would be contrary to faith by you know, or being saved by grace through faith. But we we view the the sacraments as the means by which we receive God's grace."

"I would definitely see that going to church is a good work. Well, that's not that's not a sac. But Ron, but yeah, I so that's a different I I agree. Going to mass..."

"Is a good work. That's not But that's not a sacrament. But you said sacrament. You said you said you view the sacraments as being..."

"To take in part in the Eucharist is a sacrament, is it not?"

"Well, mass is not the the Eucharist. I mean, no, no, no. The the seven sacraments are um"

"In order to take part in the Eucharist you have to attend church in order for that to happen and they require you to do it every single week and if you miss even one week without a necessary reason they say you commit a grave sin which done willfully is a mortal sin."

"Right so so then therefore I think attending church and even participating in things at church whether it's eating the bread or whatever it is that is clearly going to be a work and if you make that a requirement for salvation or a way to remove sins, then you are believing in salvation by a form of faith and works, not by grace through faith anymore."

"Well, I mean, no, the I I understand how you when you present it that way, but we view as Catholics, remember, enter into the the Catholic framework, we view the Eucharist as grace. That is like a G. We could never ever ever merit the Eucharist. We could never merit the sanctifying power of the Eucharist. So when we go receive the Eucharist, what that means when you say, you know, you you must attend mass, it's saying that apart from attending mass and receiving the grace that we receive through the Eucharist, it'd be impossible to become justified apart from God's grace. So I understand you don't you don't have to agree with the Catholic Church, but I'm just asking you present it in the way that we..."

"Still works. It's like me telling you, 'Look, I've got $20 for you. It's a free gift. You didn't earn it, but actually, in order to get it, you've got to go to my house every week and and I'll give you something. I'll give you some food, and if you don't, I'll take that $20 off you.' Well, then that $20 is not really a free gift. It's a performance-based contract to get you to come to my house every week. And I think that's the same thing if you make salvation dependent upon you attending mass every week and taking part in the Eucharist. Otherwise, you lose your salvation and end up in hell. Then that is a performance p based contract. It's not a gospel of grace because grace means unmerited favor."

"Yeah. No, I I understand. Um, so Ryan, I don't know if you know this, but actually like right when I just right after I had my conversion, I had like you and me had like a 4-hour discussion like over over like over a year ago. Yeah. You corrected me on some things. I referred to the Council of Rome as like an ecumenical council and you were like, 'No, it's actually regional.' It was the first time I'd heard that and I was like caught off guard. But you said the same uh analogy and I I prayed on it a lot. I wrestled with it. The it was you said actually a car wash analogy. It was if I say, 'Hey, I'll give you I'm going to give you this $20 as a gift, but you need to clean my car to get it.' Is that really a gift or is it work? Um, and I really prayed on that and I thought on that cuz it it did trip me up when I thought about that cuz the way that's presented, of course. You'd be laboring for the money. But I I actually prayed about this. I wrote it out in the journal um like the following week. But really what the Catholic view on it is is not that at all. It's more like being a homeless person and God asking you, our Lord, our blessed Lord Jesus saying, 'Will you let me will you let me clean you?' That's the gift. Like baptism is the we are filthy and God saying, 'Will you let me clean you? I I want to offer you this cleansing gift. Will you accept it?' And if you don't accept baptism, you're you're rejecting the grace, the the gift that God wants to give you of regeneration."

"What I'm what I'm focusing on though, I was focusing on you having to attend mass. If you do not attend mass every week without a necessary reason, then you will forfeit your salvation according to the Catholic Catechism. So therefore, it is that's why I made the analogy slightly different to you. like um my speaker like um spazzing."

"Your speaker. Yeah. Um, it is gone a bit. Your sound's gone a bit funny. Um, not sure if if..."

"Can I can I re..."

"Oh, there we go."

"Yeah, it's better."

"Yeah, that's good."

"It must have just lagged a little bit there. Yeah. Um, okay. So, that's why I changed the analogy for you. I made it an analogy suited for you in this conversation because if if at the moment we're not talking about so much the baptism part. We're talking more on the having to attend mass every week otherwise you lose your salvation. Then do you see my how my analogy works with you? Because if the gift represents heaven, going to heaven, but if it's contingent on me attending church every week and if I don't I go to hell, then that is not a gift. It's something that I'm having to merit for myself. And that's the language the Catholic catechism use. You have to merit for yourself all the graces needed to attain eternal life."

"Yeah. Well, I will say, did you did you mean to cut off the first part of the sentence of the the catechism section you quoted earlier in the video? You move toward..."

"No, it's just just for the sake of brevity there. But the the the first section that just talks about initial I'm talking about not the initial justification. I'm talking about final justification with you. I'm talking about how do you actually attain eternal life, going to heaven? And the Catholic Church says you merit for yourself all the graces needed to attain eternal life. Is it glitch? Is it still glitching on my end?"

"It is glitching. Um, your sound is glitching for me. Um, so I think I'm not sure. It's just every now and again it is glitching. Maybe rejoining may help. If you just rejoin it could help potentially."

"Yeah, rejoin. That'll be good. Yeah, I think it's only his sound on his end. Maybe his phone is lagging a little bit there. This is a good conversation. I didn't realize I had spoken to him like what apparently like a 4-hour uh discussion apparently like a year ago or some some time ago. That's interesting. And yeah, he said that he got to help him a little bit. But let's see. Here we go. He's back. Let's bring him up. Hello, Chase. How's your sound?"

"Okay."

"You can hear me?"

"It's It's okay right now, but there's still a little It's still a little bit of glitching. Can you hear me?"

"Yeah, it is. If for me, your sound is every now and again it's making a bit of like crackly noise. Um,"

"Yeah, it it's fine, but then it or at least before it would start picking up and getting and getting worse. But what was your um oh that we were talking about..."

"With the quotation? Yeah. Um, well my my question was what do you do you not think though it would be at least just the fairest to show the full just the the sentence before that in the catechism which..."

"Even if you disagree, I I understand you disagree with the Catholic position, but when you when you remove that first line, it it doesn't really honestly represent. Can I think it really does. I think it really does because notice what I'm talking about. I'll bring up the whole thing."

"Okay."

"Yeah. But you I mean, you see right there that that literally just says that's like that looks like semi-Pelagianism..."

"When you remove the first..."

"Because that's because that's..."

Catholicism line. >> So I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about initial justification. So this is the entire quotation here. I found it. This is, um, the entire thing. All right.

"No one can merit the initial grace which is at the origin of conversion."

>> Chase, you, you still there? Um

>> Yes, sir.

>> I think is okay, cool. Okay, you're here. So notice I'm not talking about initial grace. I'm talking about how to attain eternal life. So let's keep reading.

"Moved by the Holy Spirit, we can merit for ourselves and for others all the graces needed to attain eternal life, as well as necessary temporal goods."

That's the entire section here. And so I wasn't focusing on initial grace. I'm talking about how to actually attain eternal life. And it tells you you have to merit for yourselves those graces. Yeah. Which is, but the important part that first sentence does, um, make a difference, and I'll, I'll try and give an analogy as to why.

So think of it as once again, like we're like a dirty, I don't want to say that, that sounds wrong. I don't view homeless people as, okay, we're a drug addict and we're on the street. Okay, is that we're, we're a drug addict. We're on the street. We're, we're completely addicted to a drug, sin. And then the, a master of this home, you know, we'll just say, trying to use our, our Lord's structure of a parable, invites us into our, into his home. He, he says, "But before you enter my home, I must clean you. You must let me clean you. If you won't let me clean you, you cannot come into my home."

So, we let the master clean us. He washes us so we can be brought into his home. Now, he says the gift is being able to live in his home. He, he, there's multiple gifts. There's the gift of him cleaning us so we can enter into his home. And then there's the gift of living with him, being with him. And he's not going to force us to stay in the house. We're allowed to leave the house if we want to. But we are not. He kicks you out. Under your analogy, that man kicks you out if you disobey his rules. If you don't attend supper at 6:00 p.m., he's kicking you out. You're back on the streets. That's Catholicism, where they say if you do not attend mass every week, you are kicked out. You're lost salvation. If you died in that state of mortal sin, you are in hell. So, it's performance-based. That's not how relationships, our relationship with God works. It's not performance.

>> No, but Ryan, you, you do understand that we, we view, we view the Eucharist as being a means by which we receive grace. So, if, if we said you can be saved without

>> So is supper. So is supper at 6 p.m. But if you make, you have to be here at 6 p.m. for supper every night, otherwise you're getting kicked out of the house. You're not in the house by grace. You're not, you're not there like accepted and so on. It's now performance-based, and that's not

>> I mean, Ryan, the way you're setting it up, you would say that salvation is intellectually performance-based for us. You're, you're saying that us. Yeah. But you, I'm saying using the structure you set up, salvation would be based on how I perform intellectually. Can I comprehend a set of facts and assent to them, and if I do that properly, then I receive salvation. I mean

>> Believing is not some sort of amazing thing. Believing has no intrinsic worth in itself in the sense of faith. What matters is not the size of your faith. It's that what your faith is in. It's in Christ and what he's done.

>> The Bible mentioned this though, that whoever does not believe is condemned already. So, aren't there certain things that someone has to believe in order to be saved?

>> Yeah. I mean, but once again, I, I, I'm just asking, once you do not have to agree, but I'm just, I'm just asking that you kind of refine the way you present the Catholic position, cuz we, we believe that. I mean, we believe

>> I'm quoting from your sources, man. And you have to bear it for yourself.

>> No. All the gifts necess, all the graces needed for eternal life. So, do you agree with this man? Do you think you have to merit for yourself all the graces needed for eternal life?

>> Yes. Now, don't clip, don't clip for me.

>> You don't believe in salvation by grace of your faith, man.

>> Don't clip for me. Can I finish my sentence, please? Um, I, I understand it's, it's kind of a little question. You, you angle it, but let me explain what that is because it's no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. So, the only way I can, I can, you know, my work can be meritorious is because it's done not by myself, but through Christ living in me, as Paul says. So, the work, the fruits I bear are because, are only meritorious because they're Christ's work. I'm, he's the, he's the vine and I'm just a branch of it. So, when I'm, when I'm grafted on, it's all, he's the root of it. So, all the works are his. But him and his and his love and mercy allows me to present his works as, as my own, even though I, I could never bear those fruits if it weren't for him working in me. So, they're all, they're all work.

>> And if someone, you're still having to do it. And so, if you got one Catholic who does those works, attends mass every week, doesn't die in mortal sin, they go to heaven. When you got another Catholic, and they don't attend mass every week, and so they die in a state of mortal sin, the difference was not God. The difference was the person's obedience to God's law. That's the difference.

>> Yeah. The, it was whether or not the

>> gives you a reason to boast.

>> No. Absolutely not. It wouldn't give a reason to boast.

>> How not? If, if, if the difference between why, under your view, one Catholic goes to heaven is because he was obedient enough to not die in a state of mortal sin, and the other one wasn't obedient enough and he died instead of mortal sin. If the difference is their obedience, that's precisely then performance-based and not purely grace-based. Do, do you think, um, a, a drug addict who is picked up off the street and, and someone helps clean them up and, and, and literally like they're dying on the side of the street and someone comes and saves them and sets them up and gives them a new life, that that person would have something to boast about because they didn't fall back into drugs? No, it's, it's all the person that saved them, and they'd be forever grateful. They would. It would not, it's, it's asymmetrical, right? Like, if, if we damn ourselves, it's because we've rejected God's grace. But if we're saved, it's, it's only because of God's grace. We, we could never do it on our own. So, there's no room for

>> taken into the house. You're taken to the house from the streets as a homeless person, but then in the, in the house, you're disobedient and you get kicked out. Well, then you're in the house. Was you staying in the house was contingent on works? What you did? And so therefore, is that how, is that how salvation works? Tell me. Is God keep us as children of God dependent upon our works? Yes or no?

>> What does our Lord, what does our Lord say in John 15? I guess would, but okay.

>> Yes or no? Yes or no? I think the answer is clearly no. He never says you're only a child of God. Am I not allowed to, am I not allowed to quote scripture to answer? Can I not use the word, the word of God to answer?

>> You can, you can go. John 15 doesn't say good works is how you stay as a child of God. Doesn't give that implication.

>> Well, you, I didn't say good works. You said is keeping commandments. And what does our Lord say in John 15?

>> Sure. All good works, like aren't good works also things that you got to do?

>> Um

>> Oh, Ryan, Ryan, I just, I just, I just asked what our, what does our Lord say in John 15?

>> Can you just read John 15? Can you, can you read? Okay.

>> Yeah. But there's a, what part of John 15 do you want me to look at?

>> Um, cuz you know, specifically. Can you, it's, it's a pretty simple question.

>> I know our Lord answers. So why would I, why would I speak? Why would I speak when our Lord speaks for me? Why? Why would I

>> Jesus is not answering that question when he's speaking in John 15. You are misinterpreting John 15 because he's not saying that's why I didn't

>> This is how you stay as a child of God.

>> Where does it mean anywhere in scripture that you

>> I, I'm not interpreting anything. Will you just read it? Okay. Which part?

>> Um, where, where he says, "If you love me, keep my commandments." Will you just go there?

>> Okay. That's not even John 15.

>> What is it?

>> That's not even John 15, man. That's John 14. That's John 14.

>> Okay. I mean,

>> John 14 verse 15 says, "If you love me, you'll keep my commandments." Now, this verse here does not say that to stay as a child of God, it's based on keeping commandments.

>> Yeah. Well, well, you scroll down. Um, it is John 15. I'm sorry. I, I, the part I quoted is John 14, but the part I'm wanting to read, we just scroll down to John 15 or verse one of John 15.

>> Just verse one.

>> Verse one.

>> Sorry. I, I don't

>> "I am the true vine, and my Father is the vine dresser."

>> Yeah.

>> "Every branch in me that does not bear fruit, he takes away, and every branch that does bear fruit, he prunes that it may bear more fruit."

>> So, if you say that good work, there's two verses.

>> "Already you are clean because of the word I have spoken to you. You abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself unless it abides in the vine, neither can you unless you abide in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. If anyone does not abide in me, he is he is thrown away like a branch and withers. And the branches are gathered and thrown into the fire and burned." Nothing about

>> No, keep there. Keep going. Keep going till 10. Keep going. I don't have a photographic supporting your case. This is not supporting your case.

>> Will you just read a few, a few more? A few more.

>> "If you abide in me," so this is trusting in Christ, is relying on him. "and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples. As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Abide in my love. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love." So, where is, so how do we, how do we abide in a child of God by keeping commandments? Where's

>> How do we abide? No, my question is, how does our Lord answer? How do we abide in his love?

>> Abiding in his love is not referring to salvation.

>> It's not referring to salvation.

>> Ryan, I hold up. What do you think abiding in his love refers to? First of all, what do you think that means? Abiding in his love. What does he say if we do not abide in him?

>> No. Answer my question. What does abiding in his love refer to? What does that phrase mean? Tell me.

>> I, I, I'm allowed to ask another question.

>> No, I'm asking my question is for you. So, can you answer it? Don't beat around. You're dodging. Can you answer my question?

>> I know, but Ryan, you sound like a Pharisee. When Jesus answers them with another question, you're like, you're, you would have a problem with the way our Lord responded with another question.

>> Actually, no. Jesus at different times said, "I'm not going to answer." He actually refused to answer when they weren't genuinely wanting to know the answer. And so I am following my Lord in the same

>> I know I don't think I don't think you're genuinely

>> If you're so, I'm, I'm asking you, you're trying to make an argument here because I'm trying to understand what your position is here. So, in verse 10, how do you interpret abiding in my love? What does that phrase mean under your perspective? This is super loaded, so I'm treading carefully. But, um

>> You're the one making the argument here. This is somehow like proving that you got to do works to or do commandments to stay saved or stay a child of God.

>> Would you? He says, "If you don't abide in me, you'll be cut off and cast into the fire."

>> So, can you answer the question, verse 10? This is, this is the crux of your argument of his verse 10. So, what does abiding in his love reflect?

>> Why are you divorcing the context in which verse 10 is written?

>> Because we saw nothing in verses 9 1-9 ever spoke about having to keep the commandments to stay as a child of God.

>> Because he, he says, "You you have to abide in my love," and then verse 10, he explains how you abide in the love. So, it's just a, it's like it, it defines what abiding means.

>> You misread verses 1-9. It never mentions abiding in his love in 1 to nine. And it talks about abiding in him, which is distinct from abiding in his love. He uses a different phrase from abiding in me compared to abiding in my love. Now, you weren't. So, are you just not willing to answer my question?

>> No. I mean, it's a, I'm trying to answer it with scripture as best I can. Am I not allowed as a Christian to try and base my answers around scripture?

>> Well, then just, you're trying to, then don't, if you don't understand what this is about, don't use it as an argument to prove that you have to keep the commandments to stay in God's grace or stay as a child of God. Let me just explain it for you then.

>> Well, abiding.

>> Are you going to answer it? Yeah.

>> No, no, no. I, I, I'm trying to say I really do have to go. Can we, what day would be

>> I, I don't have video chats. Come for one of the video chats. Um

>> Is there a time that The only issue is I am, I am in school. So, I get out, I get out of class normally around on, um, Tuesdays and Thursdays at 8:45. What time do you do the

>> Yeah. So, we do viewer chats from 8:00 p.m. to about 10:00 p.m. Eastern time.

>> Okay. 10 p.m. Eastern Thursday.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. And I, I, I will, I would like to continue this further. I'm not trying to cop out anything. I just, I'm parked on, I'm parked on the side of the road at a gas station, and I, I do need to to get home.

>> But just as I, I think just say, look, this does not refer to a, a loss of salvation or anything like that, or salvation contingent on obedience to the commandments, because abiding in my love, this phrase here is not referring to salvation because it speaks about in the end of the verse, "just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love." Now, we know Christ doesn't need salvation, and so therefore abiding in his love, therefore does not refer to salvation because Christ has it, right? So, clearly it's just talking about, um, God's approval, God having a special love towards those who are, are keeping his commandments, but not linking that up with, um, salvation or being a child of God. Instead,

>> being a child of God is dependent upon what Christ has done for us. It's not dependent upon, do I attend mass? Do I do this or that? Do I keep the commandments? Otherwise, that's not a very good relationship. That's a terrible relationship if that's the relationship you, that a person has between God and them. If it's based on keeping his commandments for God to accept them into heaven.

>> Yeah. I, um, you, you frame it that way, but I, you, it is, it does come down to, you do believe it's not just what Christ did. It's our intellectual assent that you, you would say

>> what Christ did because faith is not works. Faith is not something I do. Faith is a conviction I have. It's first of all, it's granted by God. But

>> a conviction who has

>> a conviction that I have. Yeah. God granted me. In fact, it says first Philippians 1:29,

>> "it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him, but also suffer for his sake." So, it's granted for me to even believe in Christ.

>> Yeah. Believing is not theology 101.

>> But no, but Catholic theology says you got to merit yourself for yourself all the graces needed for eternal life. And you can lose your salvation at a whim. You could have woken up this morning thinking you're in a state of grace and by midday already committed a mortal sin and be on your way to hell. That's not resting in Jesus. That's

>> Yeah.

>> That's a lot of anxiety. And I want, look, I care about you. I do deeply care about you. And that's why I want you to just move away from a performance-based continued acceptance before God to just purely a grace one where it's not based on commandment keeping or any other things like that. Yeah, I, I, I totally understand the way you view the, the church. I would love to go more in depth with it. Um, I'm going to ask about it.

>> Yeah, I, I will ask that when I get off. You don't

>> Just tell, tell the people I do, I have works-based salvation. Um, because once again

>> You do have works of salvation in the sense, let me come in the sense that you think your works, eg like commandment keeping, which I would clearly see as works

>> is a requirement for you to attain eternal life. That's what the catechism says.

>> So, yeah.

>> You believe in that sort of works-based salvation in that sense then? Yeah, I, I want to respond, but I, I, I really do. I like, I have driving. Okay. All right. God bless. God bless you, Ryan. Um, have a good night.

>> Thanks, man. Bye.

>> Okay. All right. Bye.

>> Good conversation. Yeah. Respectful conversation with Chase. And no, I'm not trying to trap him or anything like that. Instead, I just have a heart for Chase. I really do. I want him to find the rest that we have. If at any time, if you could just wake up in the morning, think you're in a state of grace, and by midday you've committed a mortal sin, or even an hour later, or five minutes later, committed a mortal sin and on on your way to hell, that is then not rest, the rest that Jesus tells us to have. And I want Chase to have rest. I want him to have 100% certainty that he's going to heaven. Catholicism says you're not allowed to, because you cannot know with a certainty of faith that you have obtained the grace of God, as the Council of Trent said. But yeah, we'll talk further with Chase, um, another day. I'm looking forward to that conversation. I think it'd be good, a great conversation, um, there. And if you guys haven't checked out my video that I put in response to the conversation that Chase had with Frank Turk, um, do check that one out after today's stream. But let's pray for Chase now. Heavenly Father, we do thank you for the conversation with Chase. Lord, pray that you'd allow Chase to see that his system of attaining eternal life is performance-based, at least partly, if it's contingent on commandment keeping, mass attending, and other things like that. Lord, I do pray that you set him free from that to have rest in Jesus. Know that may he know that we care about him. We're not against him. We love him so much. Lord, that's why we want him to find this rest. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. I'm glad you guys enjoyed the, the video I made in response as well to, um, Frank Turk and the conversation that Chase had there. Um, all right, there was a super chat that came in during that. There was one that was earlier from Maddie. I can never watch these lives as I work at this time, but I just want to share how absolutely encouraged I am by your ministry. Always praying for your brother and for the whole team. The Lord is good. Hey, thank you so much. Um, to God be the glory. Someone said, "What's the times you stream again?" Well, we stream Monday through to Thursday, US Eastern time, starting at 6 p.m. with question time, gospel chats, but our viewer chats start at 8:00 p.m. usually Eastern time. Um, go for about two hours after that. And we also have a weekend stream which usually starts at 9:30 p.m. on Saturday evening. Okay. Thank you for this super chat as well from Chu, who says, "Praise God for salvation by grace through faith, not of works, lest, uh, no one so that no one may boast. That he loved us first, so that we now love him and work and pursue good works." Now, Chase tried to make an argument, and I'll maybe just respond with, um, with this. So, he's trying to say, "Oh, look, it's some sort of intellectual work that's going on in your head." It's not some sort of intellectual work on your head. This is a spiritual thing going on where, again, faith is not a work. We know that very clearly. Romans 4:5 tells us, "And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness." It clearly then it's distinguishing believing from working. So, it never says that believing is working. And so when he's trying to say, "Oh, look, you're doing works as well." No, I'm not. If I just trust God's promise of eternal life through Christ, what work have I done? None. And God's the one who granted that to me anyway. Compare it to this. If someone says, "Hey, I will transfer $100 into your bank account, just as long as you believe that I'll transfer the $100 into your bank account." Okay? So, if someone believes that the money is theirs as a gift, they got it. They believe. Did they do any works? Would they say, "Oh, look at me. I, I did this. I did." No. They'd be like, "The guy just transferred. He, he gave me a promise. I trusted his promise. I received it." Compare that to someone saying, "$100." You get it contingent on you taking a bath first and getting someone to sprinkle something on you. Also, then you've got to attend my house every week. You've got to then also, uh, keep these commandments. If you got to keep all these commandments, if you don't, you go do this ritual that I've got for you. And if you manage to die not in a state of mortal sin, you get the $100. You get it to your bank account. That doesn't sound like a gift. At the end of that, it's like a Mr. Beast challenge. You know, Mr. Beast, how they're like, you've got to live like on a platform for 30 days or something like that. You've got to live in a bunker somewhere for 60 days or 180 days. At the end of that, is the money from Mr. Beast a gift, or is it more of a reward for fulfilling all the requirements needed to get the money? It's not a gift. It's a reward. It's a wage for taking part in what you had to do, following the requirements. And so, what's salvation like? It's a gift. Romans 6:23, "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." If it's described as a free gift, works cannot be a part of it. Obedience cannot be a part of it because it ceases to be a free gift then. All right. I appreciate that. Cool. All right. Now, let me just check. We've answered that. Okay. For those who are waiting for viewer chats, we won't have any more time because we have just reached the end of the time for viewer chats today. So, thank you for your patience. And if you've been waiting, come back another day. I'd love to have a chat, um, with you there. And by the way, at the start of tomorrow's viewer chats, we're having a special guest. We're having Anthony Rogers come up for the very first part of our viewer chats tomorrow, which will be fun. Um, we're going to be talking about his debate he just recently had with Trent Horn at the, the Gospel Truth Debate Summit thing. So, that'll be fun. But then we'll also allow other people to come up for viewer chats tomorrow, too. All right. Now, let's get encouraged with a portion of scripture before we do the Bible trivia cahoot game coming up in a moment. Let's hear this passage of scripture. Where's this one from? Isaiah 12. God is my salvation. Enjoy. Let's hear God's word put to script. Uh, hear God's word put to a song.

"You will say in that day, 'I will give thanks to you, O Lord; for though you were angry with me, your anger turned away, that you might comfort me. Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and will not be afraid; for the Lord God is my strength and my song, and he has become my salvation.' With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation. And you will say in that day, 'Give thanks to the Lord; call upon his name; make known his deeds among the peoples; proclaim that his name is exalted.' You will say in that day, 'I will give thanks to you, O Lord; for though you were angry with me, your anger turned away, that you might comfort me.' Sing praises to the Lord, for he has done gloriously; let this be known in all the earth. Shout, and sing for joy, O inhabitant of Zion, for great in your midst is the Holy One of Israel."

"You will say in that day, 'I will give thanks to you, O Lord; for though you were angry with me, your anger turned away, that you might comfort me.'"

"You will say in that day, 'I will give thanks to you, O Lord; for though you were angry with me, your anger turned away, that you might comfort me.'"

"Ooh. Ooh. You will say in that day."

>> In that day.

>> "We will say, 'I will give thanks to you, O Lord; for though you were angry with me, your anger turned away, that you might comfort me.'"

>> "For though you were angry with me, your anger turned away, that you might comfort me."

How beautiful is that song? That is really good. That's a great passage put to music. And that song, you can hear it at our music.needgo.net music channel, which is also on YouTube. Make sure you subscribe over there if you haven't already. Um, it's also on Spotify and all the other sort of music platforms. Just search for needgod.net music, and you can listen to all the songs that we have got. Julia said, "Those verses are beautiful." They really are. They really are. Love hearing God's word hiding in our hearts. Amazing. Disciple of Christ said, "Who's Anthony Rogers?" Uh, he's someone who's, he's a Presbyterian minister, but he's done debates with Muslims. He's done debates on different topics. Good defender of justification by faith alone. And Soul Scapura. He had a chat with Trent Horn just recently, and so we'll be having him up tomorrow for a conversation. God is so good, said, "God bless. Excited for the special guest tomorrow." Yeah, I am as well, Lord willing. All right, now it's time for our Bible trivia cahoot. And Breeze from South Africa is our host today.

>> Indeed, I am. Thank you, Ryan. Uh, so super grateful for God's wonderful gift of grace. Thanks for another great stream and those conversations. But now, you know what time it is. Cahoot is in the house. Um, hopefully Harmony has posted the link in the YouTube. So, come on in. Uh, yep, here we got our players coming in. Clay cup, lady car, be you, lens. Amazing. This is the part of the stream where we get to put on our Bible brain. Um, get our knowledge of the Bible to the front line. It's all about fastest fingers first. You're going to have to be quick and slick if you want to get onto the podium. But even if you just participate, that is a win. Just have a little bit of fun while we get into God's word. Okay. So, I do want to just welcome everybody. Let's see. We've got, uh, Jazz. We've got Jack Attack, Servant, Galatians 5:4, Trey, Drago, Missy, Needg, God. Yes. Love that. Brandon. Wow, everybody's just moving around so fast. Bab boy. Let's see who we've got here. Hunter, joyful, Anthony, Matthew, meth boy, C: JJ. Only 28 players, 29 people. We'll give people a little bit more time. But while we're waiting, just, uh, smash that like button in the meantime. And if you can come up with an outro question, that's where you get to ask any sort of a random question for the team on the screen to answer. And then everybody will also be able to put the answers in the chat. Um, that'll be on the other end of this Bible trivia co. Okay, who else have we got coming? King Trades, Apostolic, Jesus Witness, Mike, NJ, Olive. Hey, Jay. Okay, bit of a smaller group today, but we're going to get going soon. Uh, oh, we've got guard of everyone in the house. So, we're going to have to be, yo,

>> Just give them a few more minutes because I don't think the first link worked too well. So, I posted again. So, they're, you see them joining in a little bit faster. So,

>> Yeah, I thought, I thought we had a, a low attendance today, but here we go. It is, it is picking up. Yeah, we normally have around about 40 to 50 people. The Cahoot can take up to 100 people, so if you've never played before, don't be shy. I would love to see you pick a fun name, a little nickname. You can pick yourself an avatar. You can give yourself a cool, uh, persona, a little look, and just come on in. Morning Breeze is here. Morning to you, too. Love Jesus. I love that. Team Jesus, Montre Abahoo. Okay, now we're getting going. Nickname. Oh, yeah, we've hit the 50 mark. Good thing. Good. I think that's a good number. We're going to get that started. What do you guys say? All righty, let's get ready to rumble. 52. I'm going to hit the start button. You can still join if you haven't already, but let's get this game going. Let's get into this Bible trivia in three, two, one, let's go.

First question. How did Samson have his strength? He prayed for it. He had a special amulet. His strength was in his hair. We worked out a lot. Hit the gym. We've got, um, only 20 seconds to answer each question. It's ticking down. 65. All 52. 53 people now. Two, one, and that's it. 46 people getting it with his hair. Seven people thinking that he prayed for it. But yes, we all know the story of Samson. His strength was in his locks. So, let's see how we went after the first question. Haggaw Wagger, Matthew, Anthony, Morning Breeze, Hunter, and Nickname. Okay, cool. That's our top five. Uh, after the first round, I'm going to get straight into the second question. So, we think see how things shake up. It's still early days, so there's still plenty of time to get yourself up into, um, a good position.

Next question. After Moses died, who did God choose to lead the Israelites into the promised land? So, it wasn't Moses himself who took the Israelites into the promised land. He died before they went over the Jordan River. Was it Joshua, Jacob, James, or Josiah? And again, 46 people getting that correct with Joshua. Um, that's the book of Joshua, which, uh, follows the first five books that Moses wrote. Three people saying Josiah could have just been, um, a little bit overeager there. Um, and Jacob, I know that all, all of these are J's. It gets a little bit confusing, but well done to everybody who answered that with Joshua. Um, I've actually just finished reading the book, the book of Joshua. Um, okay, good. So, Math Boy, Anthony has come up into first place. Hunter in second. Haggaw Wagger. Hey, hey, and Grace. Wonderful. Wonderful. Grace, good job, everybody. The scores are very narrowly separated. Only just a few points. We've actually got a tie for second and third, and only two points separating Heihei and Grace. Up 19 places. Just Rodri. That's amazing. Well done, Rodri. Let's go to question number three.

All right. In what book of the Bible will you find the story of Joseph? This is a repeat, everybody. So, that's the point of the Cahoot. If you didn't get this right on this, the Cahoot came a few days ago, it has been repeated. The story of Joseph is one of my favorite stories in all of the Bible. Um, is it in Psalms, Genesis, First Kings, or the book of Matthew? And well done to everybody. Uh, 42 people answering with Genesis. And again, I think that we might have just been trying to go too quickly there. If you thought that the story of Joseph is in the Psalms, Joseph was the second last son of, uh, Jacob or Israel. And it really is a great story. Go and read it toward the end of the book of Genesis. It's an amazing story. Um, so let's see how we've done. Matthew, Math Boy, Anthony is still holding on in first place. Haggaw Wagger. Hey, hey, Jack. And another Matthew, Math Boy, Anthony. We wonder which one is the impostor. Let's see. A math boy, Anthony. Math boy, Anthony. Okay, one. Oh, they look very, very similar. Okay, we'll see. The battle of the math boys is on. So, let's go. Um, also has the highest answer streak of three. Matthew, Matthew, Anthony, you're everywhere, bro. Let's go to question number four.

God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whoever does enough works in him will not perish but have everlasting life. Don't believe that's true. Is that whoever looks, whoever believes, whoever loves, or whoever prays? H got a serious thinker on the screen here. Which one could it be? With 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Yes indeed. Whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life. That is the beautiful promise. Good. Let's go to our scoreboard. This has been a little bit of a shakeup there. Matthew, Matthew, Anthony still holding on to first place. Haggaw Wagger, Jack Attack, Morning Breeze comes into fourth place, back into the top five. And God of everyone coming up on around the outside. Okay, hold on to your hats, everybody. Up four places is David. He is the highest climber as we head over to question number five.

Who was one of the 12 sons of Jacob? Only one of these answers will be one of the 12 sons of Jacob. And I already gave you the answer accidentally. I didn't know this question was going to come up. But was it Abraham, Samuel, Moses, or Joseph? But the repetition is really getting it into our brains. That's the whole point. So indeed, 41 people getting that right with Joseph. And why don't you guys give us some of the other patriarchs or sons of Jacob in the chat. Um, while we go over to the, uh, scoreboard here and see how we've done in the top five on the screen. So, we've got Math Boy holding on to first place. Pray for Philippines, wow, has shot up into second place. Morning Breeze is, uh, third. Joyful and God over everyone still in fifth place. But that has been a combo breaker. Five participants just dropped their answer streak of four. Where's Paul with his soundboard? All righty, let's go over to question number six.

Type in an answer, everybody. Uh, please type in the answer and then hit the submit button. Where can we find all of God's truth? Where can we find all of God's truth? Type in your answers. Hit the submit button. Where could that possibly be? Has God hidden it in our hearts? Has he downloaded it from the cloud onto a tablet? Is it hidden in the bush? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Don't worry too much about spelling. Just get your answer in as quickly as possible. Somebody says the Bible. Yo, that is amazing. So, the cahoot game itself is looking for either scripture, Bible, um, God word. Let's see what you guys have said. The Bible, his word, in his word, the word. Word of God, Bible, the Bible. Yo, double points there. Everywhere. Let me just think about this. Where can we find all of God's truth? I appreciate your answer, but we're looking for the Bible or scripture or something along those lines in the Bible. Bible, bibl, Holy Spirit. We're going to find all of God's truth. Holy Spirit. Yes, that is God's truth. In fact, that is God. But we're looking for something along the written word, the scriptures, the Bible, yo, bibl, and the word. Sorry about that, guys. But let's submit that. And well done. Well done to everybody who get that got that right. Let's go over to the second last question. But first, let's have a look at see how we're doing here. Math boy is still in first place. Good job. Hey, God over everyone coming into second place. You better watch out, Math boy. Pray for Philippines dropping into third. Morning Breeze. Then in fourth place and joyful, number five. Up four places. David is the highest climber again. You're doing good, David. Uh, one note actually. Yeah. Two more questions to get yourself into the top five or onto the podium. Store up your what in heaven? Are we storing up our pillows, trees, treasure, or seashells? She sells seashells on the seashore. Pillows, trees, seashells, or treasure. Store up your what in heaven is indeed treasure. Our treasure is in heaven. 53 out of 55 people getting that right. Two people clicking on trees. Good job, everybody. Let's go and see how we've done. No change. Wow. No change in the standings. Matt, we're still in first place. God over everyone. Pray for Philippines. Morning. Peace and joyful are your top five. Uh, five participants just hit an ostrich. You got five. We're doing well. Okay. So, this is where it counts. This is the last question. Everybody get ready for it. We're going three, two, one. Let's see how we're going to end. It's a true or false. So, we can really get a thousand pointer here. Not a double point. Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a camel. True or false? Did he ride into Jerusalem on a camel? It was a very popular mode of transport in Jesus' day. But was it true or was it false? False was the correct answer. He rode in on a donkey. Well done, everybody. We're going to head over to the podium and see who our winners are.

All righty, everybody in third place. Morning Breeze. Morning. Thanks. God over everyone. Well done. And your winner, ladies and gentlemen, a well-deserved performance by Matty Met Anthony, our champion. Good job, everybody. Back to you, Ryan.

>> Thank you, Breeze. Well done, brother. Thanks for being a great host there. And, um, well done everyone participating in whatever position you came. Hopefully, you had some fun. Love the encouragements of the GG. Good game to everyone in the chat. All right, now it's time to pray, and then after that, the outro question. Heavenly Father, we do thank you for allowing the stream to go on. Thank you for the conversations, all the people we got to interact with. Lord, pray for those who are not relying on Christ alone to start relying on Christ alone. May they see that if our salvation depended upon anything of us, our continued obedience to you, we'd have a reason to boast, and we're not relying entirely on you then. So, Lord, I do pray these people have their eyes open today. Maybe some who've been stuck in different institutions, just been thinking whatever their churches taught for so long. May the, the eyes of their hearts be enlightened today to believe that Christ is sufficient without our contributions. Lord, we, we want them to be saved. Lord, may we passionately, uh, plead with them and love them, speaking the truth in love to these people. Lord, I do pray that you would also, um, give us a heart that loves your word. Give us a heart that seeks to be obedient just out of gratitude to you for what you've done for us. And Lord, help us to flee from sin, putting sin to death in our life. Lord, may we not take life for granted. We're not guaranteed tomorrow. We can, you can take us home at any time. So, Lord, may we live with the perspective that Paul had to live as Christ and to die as gain. And he was just concerned about Christ being honored in his body, whether by life or by death. So, Lord, if you give us another day tomorrow, help us to use it for you. Um, but Lord, give us a good night's rest this evening. If anyone's sick right now, bring them to recovery. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.

All right. If you agree with that prayer, feel free to say amen in the chat. We'll now do the outro question. All right. We had an answer question suggested by Paul a bit earlier on. Franchise pizza or homemade pizza? What would you pick out of those two? And you got, or you can do like store-bought, you know, with the frozen ones from the freezer. So, I assume homemade is that you're putting on the toppings yourself, getting it all ready like that. I would probably say franchise pizza. Easier. Don't have to make it yourself. And it's usually pretty good. Um, over and above definitely more than store-bought pre pizza, but I don't mind a homemade one as well because that can be quite good, too. It's a good buy from Ryan.

>> Yeah, I would say homemade. Goodbye from Jack.

>> Um, it's a goodbye from Isaac. I would say both. I like Domino's pizza and I like homemade pizza is I think it would be nicer and it's cheaper. K. Yeah, I think restaurants do a good enough job. So, I don't mind going down to the store and buying a pizza, but it's great fun to make them at home as well. If you've got kids, it's a great activity. Bye for Breeze. It's a Lord will one. We'll see you tomorrow from Annette, Brennan, Duray, EJ, Glenn. Yeah, Jack's here. Hi, Jack. Jerome, Joy, Kevin, Kevin to the second power, Marcus, Maurice, Michelle, Nathan, Paul, Stephanie, Tim, Wesley, whoever else that served today or will serve. Congratulations on those who just graduated training. Join training. It's free. Um, and I would say either as long as you're gathering it or making it for the glory of God in love. But maybe if you get pizza, you buy it from a place you can give a gospel track.

>> Oh, there you go. That's cool. Thank you, Harmony. All right. What are we saying? What are we seeing people saying in the chat? Franchise. Franchise. Papa John's, even like specific place. Um, homemade in the fire. Brew said. Wow. Fire. Homemade. Homemade 100% homemade. Joy says, "Stone store-bought stuffed crust." Oh, there you go. Missy saying store-bought stuffed crust. Okay, thank you, guys. And this question is making me hungry is what, um, Math Boy says. That's funny. If you guys haven't checked out the video I posted earlier on today with my review of the Frank Turk verse Chase, who we got to speak to earlier on viewer chats, do check out that video after today's stream. We're back on tomorrow, Lord willing, at 6:00 p.m. Eastern, which is 9:00 a.m. Brisbane time, which is where I live. Until then, go serve your King and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to earth all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always to the end of the age. To the end of the age. And behold, I am with you always to the end of the age.