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The Joe Rogan Experience.
They also passed on this idea of slamming a beach ball on the ground in order to identify each of the videos because they wanted to get the telepathy uh signals right, but they were missing them, you know, on the formal trials. So they discussed between themselves apparently telepathically if you slam a beach ball on the ground before we do the trial then we'll focus on it in time and we'll go to the right timeline to talk about this is this is what they write down to to get to the video in our minds. And so that's the video that I wanted to show you if it's here and that's Jeff and me on the right and that's Maria.
Maybe someone else has questions to ask. I was wondering if the best way to present the video so that the timing doesn't become a factor. Like maybe he saw a video at a different time, but how could we make this one stand out so you know that's the one we're talking about.
Yeah, great. That's kind of what I was going to ask. And that's Natalia on the very left. Put your foot on the floor or cross my leg. And so he's typing something into a keyboard right now.
He's typing into the keyboard.
It's got electronic voice.
And that electronic voice is hard to hear. So she'll repeat it. And then I also have a little slide that shows what I said.
What did the voice say?
Slam.
Slam. Hey,
slam a ball.
This is where he's giving us this idea to slam a ball on the ground to get him to the right timeline in telepathy trials. It was his idea. We never It never occurred to us. Before that,
that's before.
I picked up the F. I don't know why. Before.
Great.
By the way, Maria has a big crush on you. She knows you're married, but she told me not to tell you.
Thanks.
To said thanks. video.
Okay. Who where or which person would be helpful to do that before the video?
So, this
Okay, so this is the transcript of it. Slam a ball before sending. That's what he's saying.
Yeah.
Uh, Natalia says, "Who should do that before the video is sent?"
He says,
and he says, "Sender." What kind of ball? Slam a beach ball. Why would you draw your Why would that draw your attention to this timeline? He says, "Because I could see and hear it when looking in the future." Does it matter how many times she slams it? He says, "Before each video once."
Yeah.
So, the slamming of the ball allowed him to look into the future is what he was saying.
He was hoping that would work because he had just failed a telepathy trial and he said, "I was on a different timeline." And we said, "So, how can we get you on this timeline?" and he said he made up this idea of slamming a beach ball. And what we found fascinating about it was um you know that's an original idea that none of us thought about. But then we also found it fascinating because of what you'll see next which is the next person who comes in who of course hadn't heard any of this. This is another participant participant five and Natalia is
participant four arrives out to participant five leaves. He asks to go on a double date with participant five and his girlfriend. Something participant five asked about participant four already. He also brings up something participant five mentioned about how to make the telepathy work better.
What is that voice?
That's him. He um He's able to type and um do this sort of sing song talking at the same time.
It would be good to try the beach ball.
Now, did you see how Natalia just does that little shrug?
It would be good to try the beach ball slam. So, now he didn't hear that other conversation at all. He wasn't in the room.
His mom was so he was at home with his mom. So, he came in after we had a 20-minute break between the producers.
So, he wasn't anywhere near the building. No, there's no way he could have known. That's why Natalyia gave that shrug like see she and Maria see this all the time where students will all be talking about the same thing and they
so he just comes in and says the beach ball slam would be a good idea.
Yeah.
So he was in that conversation.
Whoa.
Yeah. And this this is it is it is like they are all in the same conversation and it is so it's hard to think about what it would be like but it's becoming more and more clear to me that it would be very difficult to just be in this conversation where the words are coming out of our mouths
if you also are just having all these conversations with other people. I mean, it's like an incredible focus. And so, the work that he has to do to type and then he's also using his singong voice and he's clearly having some kind of conversation
in his head. It's incredible focus that they're actually having to do. And many of them have dyspraxia, so their bodies, it's hard for them to control their bodies,
which is part of the speech issue. And so, um, I I I just think they're all gifted. I mean, at this point,
right? But there's that thing that they kept talking about in the telepathy tapes where they all meet
on the hill
psychically on the hill. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. So I had
and they all talk about it independently like it's not something that has been taught to them like do you meet on the hill? Oh yeah I do. No they they've talked about it independently which is very weird
right and one way so
odd concept. Well, I I turn on my scientist hat when I think about that and I think, okay, well, they could have heard it on the telepathy tapes and then they started talking about it, but that's not how it seemed to have worked.
But I I have my own experience of that particular student. I forget whether I called him participant four or participant five at the end.
He and I became um I had a good understanding of his mind and we had some good conversations. And I had a dream one night where um he came to me and all he did was show me this like it was like a sun where you could see the sunspots and it was just slowly turning and it was beautiful and he just gave it to me and then the next day I was working with him over Zoom and so I asked Maria I said can I ask him a question you know and she said sure and I said you know last night you gave me something you gave me a shape what was the shape? Because I didn't I hadn't told Maria about the dream or anyone else. It was just my dream that I wrote in my journal. Um, and I was thinking he would say ball or sphere. And that would either be a good guess or it would be telepathy. But he goes, I can't I still can't get over this. I sent you a a pre-revolutionary orb with four stars on it slowly rotating. What is a pre-re? I don't [ __ ] know.
I don't know. I mean, with
four stars on it.
With four star stars on it slowly rotating,
but that's not exactly what you saw in the dream.
Well, there were these sunspots. So, see, he's see there's a poetic license that they have. I I would say that's 80% correct. So, it was slowly rotating and there were these sunspots that I were calling I was calling sunspots. He was calling stars
and it was definitely an orb. What is pre-revolutionary mean? I don't know. They talk about and I talk about in my book the love revolution. This idea that we're moving towards a time when we can actually use love in our lives to communicate and to connect people. But maybe that's what he means. Um, and then so that's one instance. So I sort of go, okay, that was interesting. And it kind of blew my mind that he used that language. He's very he's just gifted at interesting language. And then this other non-speaker who worked with Natalia, who is the young woman you saw on the left, who also works with a lot of spellers, um, just decided to start reading my mind like we did. He started I asked Natalyia I said can we just do an experiment where I'll be doing something and I'll know what I'm doing at that time and you just ask one of your students to to read my mind and then no one else will know what I'm doing and she won't know what I'm doing. And so what I was doing was doing this remote viewing uh for a friend and so I knew exactly what I was doing during that time and what I was thinking but what I was thinking about was remember that comet threeey atlas.
Mhm. So, I was thinking I was kind of obsessively thinking about ThreeI Atlas, like what is it? What's the deal? You know, it was during that exact time in December last year.
And he comes back with some stuff I don't understand, like poetic license, I call it poetic license or just it's wrong that I don't understand where it came from. And then he says, um, oh, and threey Atlas. And he talks about this owl that I saw in a video when I was doing the remote viewing. Um, and I was like, so Natalyia didn't even know what threei Atlas was. She had to look it up. And the parent didn't know what threei Atlas was, and he spelled it three ey atlas.
Right. Wow.
So it was phonetic.
Yeah. And then later, a couple weeks ago, I get a text from Natalia that the same student, who apparently has now felt perfectly fine reading my mind, tapped into my mind when I was thinking about a medication that my stepmom was taking. and he used her name, which Natalyia didn't know, and told me that she would be okay on the medication, that it would help her and then told Natalia to text me. And so she did.
The three eye atlas in writing it as E is very strange.
That's hard. That's cuz that's not how it's written anywhere. Yeah.
Right. So the fact that he wrote it i E means he was hearing you.
It's how it's how you would hear it.
What the hell?
Yeah.
How weird. So there's no way I can explain. Oh, also he came up with my son's name, which Natalyia did know. So that could have been from her, but still he read her my
Did you ask him more about this pre-revolutionary orb with four star? Did you like why did you give me that? What does that mean?
I wish I I did. One thing I know with this particular participant is that he's so gifted and his family asks him a lot like about um to do mediumship stuff like what does grandpa think about this or whatever. And in fact,
grandpa's dead.
Yeah. Yeah. And to him there's not a lot of difference. And so
and so Yeah. And and they also like the the grandmother um had a lung transplant and they asked who the donor was and he identified a probable donor who lived in the area who had died that day. And they they won't know for a year if it was the actual donor because it takes time to learn who the donor is, but they're pretty sure that it probably is. But so
boy, if they if it turns out that he's right and you can't find out for another year.
Yeah.
Or they won't release the information.
Well, you know, yeah, my husband had a double transl. It just takes a while. Everyone has to agree that they want to release the information.
But um in any case, he's just really good at this. Like he's very skilled and I didn't want him to feel like he was a show pony and I wanted to get on with his lesson.
And so I didn't want to ask other questions. I feel like, you know, he'll probably just show up in my dream and tell me at some point.
Yeah. But do you think that he even would think of himself as a show pony? Like, wouldn't it just be communication?
He doesn't, but I didn't. Also, I wanted like I feel like
I I would want to know. Why'd you give me a call?
Of course, I wanted to know. But also, I
What's pre-revolutionary? What do you mean?
I agree. I mean, he he's the kid who I mean, there there are some We worked with six kids. They're all gifted and amazing. But he's one that um showed up in telepathy tapes as do you I don't know if you remember this story. It's so wonderful. Um his teacher so Maria what she does is like they'll read a paragraph about a topic and then he'll ask you know, the students like okay let's you know talk about the topic just like in school but he has to spell out his answers. And so I think the topic was um like Gothic art. And so um excuse me, I'm gonna have a drink of water. So the topic of the paragraph was Gothic art. And she says, "So you know what was the purpose of Gothic art?" And he said, "Oh, it it afarizes the masses." And she says, "Uh, I don't think that's a word." And then she thinks, "Well, I better look it up because he says it's a word." And so she looked it up and it was only a word that was used in the 1600s and
oh my god
and and so and it means like it appeases them. So he wrote out it means it calmed them down
and and she said well how do you know about the word it's it was only used in the 1600s. he said or the 1400s or something and he writes out, "Oh, I was talking with a a magistrate from that time period." So, like what you know, what do you do with that?
What do you do with that?
Except for maybe state that there's something going on we don't understand and it deserves more study and these students shouldn't be dismissed. Now, is he I don't know if you even asked this, but is he communicating with people in a different timeline or he would is he communicating with disembodied souls that no longer live in that timeline but still contain consciousness. So, um, my experience of him and several other people who are non-speakers is that there's really not a lot of distin like it's hard for them to know if someone's alive or dead because they're not spending too much time in the physical, right? They're not spending too much time. We spend all this time in the physical and that's what seems to be real and important to us. But to them, it's like when I brought up that someone he mentioned, he said, "Oh, I was just talking to the JP who was another non-speaker." And I said, "Oh, were were you sad when JP died?" And he said, "Oh, I didn't know he was dead."
Um, because
because you was just talking to him.
Just talking to him and and it does seem to be on this timeline because there's information that they say well again this is their experience, but their experience is that they get contemporary information like JP saw his mother do this and he's happy that she's doing that and that happened two years after he died. So,
wow. So, JP was relaying information about his mom two years after he died. He gets around