Charlie Kirk | PBD Podcast | Ep. 314

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Episode 314. We have the great Charlie Charlie Kirk in the house. And by the way, let me tell you what, this is a special, uh, podcast because this may be the last broadcast podcast he does in his 20s because he's turning 30 this week. 30. I'm getting way too old for this stuff. Actually, old, way too old for this stuff. I'm going to retire. 30. This is it for you. It's been a good run. Yeah, that makes sense. Somehow, I don't believe that. You got a lot more work to do. You got a lot of things to do. And you're not the type of guy that's going to slow down. But, uh, you know, obviously, we're sitting here going through all the stories. And we wish we didn't have these stories to go through. We wish the stories were slightly different. But the world is a mess today.

First, we're dealing with Ukraine and Russia. Last year, the last six, 12, whatever the timeline's been, uh, we're dealing with the economy. We're dealing with interest rates. We're dealing with people defaulting on car payments. We're dealing with corporations defaulting on their debt payments. We're dealing with unemployment. Right now, concerning with what's going to happen with that. Is that going to move or is it not going to move? If it's not moving, Jerome Powell wants to continue increasing interest rates. That's scary for some people. People are no longer buying houses. Y-even with all that stuff going on, then all of a sudden, this happens. This last week, Hamas, Israel, Palestine, and protesting down the street from here. 300 people protesting down the street from our office in Florida. In Florida, to the point where De Santis had to come out and tweet about it. The governor had to come out and tweet about it. But anyways, I'll pause. It's great to have you. I know you're obviously following the story very closely. What's on your mind? What are you thinking? What's going on?

Yeah, I just want to first for the audience to make sure everyone's thinking about this clearly. This was not a typical military type attack. When Russia invaded Ukraine, which was bad, they went after military targets. I mean, some civilians get caught in the crossfire, but the targets were military in nature. This is completely different. This was Hamas that penetrated the border. They did engage some IDF soldiers, and then they did a detour and went to concerts and kibbutzes. Women and children. This, this is the closest to the Holocaust that any of us have seen in our life. 1,200 Jews slaughtered in one day. And from paragliders. And I mean, you see the concert videos, these young ladies are running through the fields and they're mowing them down mercilessly. And now we know well over 15 Americans are dead. It might actually be more than that now because the death, the death tally keeps on getting higher and higher. And I'll be honest, Patrick, you know, the Israel situation is important to talk about geopolitically. What's, how American passport holders, American citizens have been reacting here domestically has really captured my attention.

What do you mean by that? Well, for example, the student body president at NYU Law sent out a message the other day saying, "Is Israel brought this upon themselves?" 31 Harvard students said, "This is a great thing." Not students, student organizations. That's correct. That's right. And Columbia University, something very similar. George Washington University, something very similar. Cal State Long Beach. Cal State Long Beach, some of the student organizers, Patrick, they were bringing out images of the paraglider as if they said, "These are freedom fighters." These people are sick. There is no middle ground with this. There is no other side of the story. This is the mass murder of women and children. And so, I, I think that, you know, we have to take a step back and ask ourselves, you know, how do you get to a place where that kind of moral toxin becomes so infiltrated into your country, into a zeitgeist, into the narrative? Then you have Black Lives Matter Global Network in Chicago, they deleted this tweet. Probably not because they don't believe it, but because quite honestly, they got such backlash where they also had the paraglider where they said, you know, "A fight for justice somewhere is a fight for justice anywhere." So this has been, I'll be honest, I do this for a living. I do three hours of radio a day, three hours of podcast. This has been a very heavy week. I mean, heavy morally, heavy geopolitically. Um, and I, I don't see it getting better anytime soon. The entire region is blowing up. It could turn into a regional war. And not to mention, our own country is collapsing in real time.

So, so I, I don't, I fully agree with you. If you want to show this, Rob, so the audience can see this as well. I'm sure they've seen it all. Yeah, they deleted it, but this has been all over the place. Why? You know what I love about this though? Let me tell you what I love about this because during times of crisis, everybody reveals themselves on who they are. Great. You come out, you show that. And then all of a sudden, hey, NBA, how come you've been quiet? Didn't you put BLM all over the place? Hey, hey, NFL, hey, hey, what happened, Apple? Hey, all these others, weren't you guys all supportive of this? What do you think about this? Do you support this? Well, no, we don't support this. All let's just stay kind of quiet. Their PR guys are saying what they're saying. But, you know, the question I got for you is the following. Um, obviously, we live in America. And everybody that's listened to this from all over the world, whatever country you're in, your priority is where you live. It should be. Yes. It's where your kids are. It's where your family is. You know, your priority is the state you live in. Your priority is our priority is here. The people that live in Israel, their priority is Israel. Everybody's priorities where they live. And the concern here is, Vinnie, can you share some of those numbers from October 2021 to October 2023? Y-who has crossed the southern border, if you don't mind giving some of that data?

All right, so, uh, do you guys know how many special interest illegal aliens have been caught? Yeah, this is it. So, and for, for everybody that doesn't know, special interest alien is anyone from countries that pose a national security threat that might support or shelter terrorism. Customs and Border Patrol have estimated that 1.5 million illegals entered the US without being detected. And no wonder why, Charlie, because I feel like this is all a plan. Um, uh, here are the numbers. Agents recorded special interest aliens, Syria, coming into the country from, uh, October 2021 to October 2023. Pat, in two years. Um, Syria, 538. Yemen, 139. Iran, 659. Iraq, 123. Afghanistan, 6,386. Lebanon, 164. Egypt, 3,153. Pakistan, 1,613. Turkey, 3,830. And Uzbekistan, 13,624. And let's not forget, Pat, and Charlie, you know, there's 200, the FBI have caught ter-on the terror watch list, 200 that we caught, let alone the ones that we have no, like, we have no idea about. So then that goes to ask people's the question, Pat, why, why is the border, why they let the border wide open this entire time? That's exactly why the freaking reason is. And it's going to get worse.

What do you mean by that's why the reason is? By Pat, here's my thing. For the past couple years, Charlie, we, all of us have been watching Pat Mayorkas in front of Congress and they're like, from everybody yelling at them like, "Why, why is the border?" No answer. He beats around the bush. He can't give a specific answer. It's almost as if, Pat, all these people are in here right now to do something crazy to us in this country. Because as you know, the Hamas leader, but why though? I, I think because one, one of them is to cause chaos. Pat, because guess what? Election is coming up too. What they can't do pandemic again? How you going to keep everybody at home? I, this is, remember House of Cards season five, episode seven, they did a fake terrorist thing at a polling thing. Nobody's going to go. If something happens at a poll center, they're going to shut down. Guess what? Who's going to go vote? Pat, you're going to vote from your house. Why? Why else is it a humanitarian thing? You think they care about Venezuelans and Mexicans and people? And by the way, these people that are coming in, Charlie, you know how old these guys are? That's 18 to 35. They're military fighting age men. Pat. And the UN is giving them cards, Charlie, with money on it and a cell phone saying, "Hey, go get an apartment." And when we call you. That's right. We like Vin. Vin, this, this is actually pretty shocking to me because I, I don't want to just gloss over this. All Vin, like, these are, these are people from the Middle East that they've caught at the US border crossing. But that's, that's just one year. Okay? One. That's just in one year. That's, that's who we've caught, not who's gotten away. And this is who's been caught, meaning they didn't catch everybody. So why would someone from Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, all these countries, why would they be coming through the southern border?

Let me stay on this series of questions I'm asking. Here's where I'm going with this, okay? So let's say they're doing it intentionally. Let's, let's process that one. Who is there? Two, why are they doing it intentionally? Yeah, I think that, I mean, it's obviously they're doing it intentionally. And let's just say the Democrat Party and moderate Republicans, they have different reasons for it. And the Democrat Party thinks that they get more power politically if they allow the third world to come into the country. They're not totally right about that, actually. It turns out that, you know, third world people that enter America, they have values that are against white upper middle-class woke liberalism. But that don't take my word for it. Look at the Castro Brothers. The Castro Brothers, uh, who, you know, one was a mayor of San Antonio, other one served in the Obama administration, Housing and Urban Development, one of them ran the Democrat National Committee. There's a clip that you could find on CBS Face the Nation. They have memory-holed this clip. So if you, if you find it, kudos on you. Where they said, um, you know, they were in this interview and they said, "Hey, in just a couple years, you're going to be calling the electoral votes for Texas because, uh, for Democrats, because of how many Hispanics are coming into Texas." These are two card-carrying partisan Democrats that are telling you that Texas will become blue, will become Democrat, because they're allowing people from the third world to come. Now, mind you, Patrick, what I just said, I get attacked by the media. They say, "Oh, this is a great replacement conspiracy theory." And that, that, that's what's called a thought-terminating cliché. They say it to you so you don't actually think about it. But why else would they keep the border completely wide open? There is no border right now. And Border Patrol is not deterring entry into the United States. They are facilitating entry into the United States. They are co-sponsoring it. I live in a border state. We are experiencing 5,000 a day. 5,000 a day. And Border Patrol is basically saying, "Come to us, here's your court date, here's your piece of paper into the interior United States, you know, see in a couple years, maybe." And they don't show up for their court date. Yeah, right.

So there's two aspects to this. First is just the flow of people that are coming that are going to destabilize our social services. You look what's happening in New York, they don't have the infrastructure to, uh, support it. The more immediate concern and caution I have is sleeper cells in the United States that are from terrorist countries that could be activated to do harm against the homeland. And that's not fearmongering. The head of Hamas said this. Tomorrow, he's called for a, look at it, own words. M-I want to make sure I'm accurate. No, you're right. Khaled Mashaal called for international, translated in English. Can you? No, but I, I want to make sure I'm accurate because I got attacked by the media for, you know, fearmongering. No, you're not. You're actually right. I, I, I have it all right here. His name is Khaled Mashaal. He was Global Day of Jihad tomorrow. Yeah, he said, "Show anger, especially on Friday in Muslim countries, also among Muslim diaspora around the world." And he called Friday of Al-Aqsa flood. He said, "This will send a message of rage to Zionists to America." He asked for financial help from all Muslims around the world to help their money. And he called it a financial jihad. He asked Muslims to give the fighters of Gaza in order to compensate them for destruction. Uh, the more important thing, this is final words. Funds are important, but today we are asking for your blood and souls to be sacrificed for Palestine." So I'm giving everybody a heads up. And that's why they're always, that's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. It's Friday the 13th. And Charlie, with everything that's going on with the failure of security, with a message like that from this demon, thank God for our founding fathers for giving us the Second Amendment. Thank you, God, because guess what? I dare when pops off here, Pat. God, you know, I feel bad for everybody that happened over there. Nobody had guns for three to six hours, apparently. The best military, one of the best ones in the world, just disappeared over here. I'm proud of America because we got guns. Come try that with us.

Let's stay on this. Let's stay on this because I actually want to go a little bit deeper. Okay, so the, the people, Texas, we're going to turn it blue. You know, the more immigrants we bring, fine, totally get that. Strategically, respect it. Fine. I totally understand what you're doing to the left. Uh, you want to turn your state to be more blue. Cool. Do your thing. Texas has been an enemy for a long time. I get it. However, the, the they people, okay, not the lower level people, the they people. The they people typically have money. The they people typically want to control their wealth. These are the puppet masters. These are the guys that have the money that are controlling. Why, why would they be okay with allowing 70,000, whatever the number was, to come through, knowing these day people are probably legacy people who have wives, who have kids, who have grandkids? Why would they do that, knowing they could jeopardize the community they're in, the value of their property, the value of their company, the value of their business? Why would they do that?

Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote The Gulag Archipelago, which brought down the Soviet Union. And he said, "Thanks to ideology, this all happened." And I'm going to give you an example, and I'll tie it together. You can go to the George Soros Open Society Foundation website and just show people. He believes in an ideological campaign that borders are the worst thing ever. Sovereign nations are the problem. George Soros is a devout believer in that ideology. And what has been an eye-opener for me, Patrick, and I can use a couple of examples. Reality is not the ultimate verdict of how you act. Ideology can actually be more critical. In, uh, New York City, a week and a half ago, a young lady was sitting on a park bench with her boyfriend. You might have covered this story, right? We did. 3:51 AM. You know, black guy comes by, slits the throat of the boyfriend. She doesn't even administer first aid. That's not the point. It's very strange. When the police went to her, she refused to give the race of the attacker. Oh my God. Because she did not want people to think it was done for race. Wow. I'll give you another example. I'll give you another example. A young lady was gang-raped in Germany by Arabs. Okay? I'm not saying all Arabs do it, but unfortunately, it's a pattern that we're seeing spike in Europe. It's a thing. Arab Muslims. She goes to the police and says, "I was gang-raped." They said, "Please describe your attackers." And she says, "It was six white Germans." Jesus. So they go and try to find six white Germans. They fail. They come back, and she admits, "Oh, actually, it was six Arab Muslims. I didn't want to tell you because I didn't want to increase the amount of anti-immigrant fervor." She, she protected her rapists because she was taking ideology over reality. Patrick, why, why, why does Soros want the borders open? He's a devout to an ideological, dare I say, pseudo-religion to create the world into a different type of place. No borders, no cash, no property. You can call it Heaven on Earth, Utopia. You can even call it Etiz, the eschaton. That's like a real, that's a religious term. We're going to bring the, we're going to bring the eternal promise of paradise here. Paradiso, as Dante would say. And they want it now. And they think that the problem is Western society. The problem is private property. The problem is America. And if you look at through that lens, all of a sudden you say, "Wow, Biden is not incompetent. It's intentional." You destroy the dollar, you keep the border open, you weaken the military. It gets you closer to a one-world government of which they are bragging in the World Economic Forum, Vision 2030. You'll own nothing, you'll be happy. America will no longer be the world's superpower.

Anyway, I don't mean to. Let's, let's still stay on this, okay? For every out of the 900 billionaires that we have in America, for every one Soros, how many billionaires, power players are against it? Meaning, do I believe Soros has another 20 billionaires that think, can believe what he believes in? Sure. Do I think he's got another 50? Sure. I don't know what the number is. I don't think it's that big of a number that you think it is. But I think he does have a group of people. He has a circle. Okay, I'm with it. I think that's, that's a smaller than 50, more than 10 people. Let's say something like that. But the other guys are not with it. I, I, I don't see a Griffin being forward. I don't see Schwarzman being forward. I don't see, you know, Buffett being forward. I don't see a Musk being forward. I don't see even a Bezos being for. I don't see a lot of these bigger power players being forward. So, Musk's credit is fighting against it. Uh, Bezos is afraid. His ex-wife is for it. MacKenzie Bezos is pumping billions of dollars into the most radical left-wing causes you could imagine. I'll give you another name that's not talked about a dayot to the ideological agenda. Lauren Powell Jobs, one of the wealthiest women on the planet. Steve Jobs' widow. $20 billion. Um, she owns The Atlantic magazine. She also, uh, runs something called the Emerson Collective. You could look at it. She's one of the biggest donors to that. She, she's an ideological deot. But Patrick, I will agree with you. If you get a hundred random billionaires in the country, every industry, right? Sports, oil, auto manufacturing. The problem is many of them are cowards. And that they do not want to fight. They would rather have their business be protected. They would rather be able to have a backup business. Is not being protected? No, but, but they're not fighting. Patrick, Musk is. That's why Musk is being criminally investigated by the Southern District of New York for a house. Did you see this story? A glass house. That is a warning shot to Musk to tell him to back off. And he doesn't. To his credit, Musk has done such good for humanity. To to be what Carnegie and Rockefeller and J.P. Morgan used to be. Because we think so negatively of those people, but they loved America. We have a different problem in our country. The powerful hate the country that they got rich in. It's very bizarre. And it's incredibly insidious.

So you think about it, right? The, the, if you look at the elites, you're always going to have elites, right? You're always going to have a ruling class. There's always been one. And you're ne, this idea of egalitarianism that everyone's going to be equal is garbage. We should then argue for better elites. Elites that want to steward the country and care about the middle class. Not elites that are worried about executing a cultural and political blitzkrieg on the fabric of the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world. And it doesn't take a lot of them, Patrick. You get a Soros, you get a Lauren Powell Jobs, another name for you, Reed Hoffman, another name for you, Mark Benioff. Benioff is a legit Marxist. Like that guy is to the left of Stalin. He, he bought, he bought Time magazine. He's a Salesforce. He's a Salesforce. These are just off the top of my head, right? So you get, so you get Lauren Powell Jobs, you get Benioff, right? You get MacKenzie Bezos, you get Soros. You're talking about Soros Capital, in addition to the Ford Foundation, the MacArthur Foundation, the Bill, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. And in addition to the institutional capture and control. And then you get some people that quietly, like, I think I agree. I think Jeff Bezos is probably in private more libertarian than he is liberal, based on everyone I know that knows him. But he wants to play like rockets in space. And he owns The Washington Post. He doesn't seem like someone who's going to fight billionaire tyranny. Instead, he's going to do what most people do when evil's on the march. Nothing.

Pat, can I ask you a question? Like, if you're, we're talking about these massive entrepreneurs that have built billion-dollar-plus companies, correct? Okay. Built on the basic premise of free market capitalism, entrepreneurship, building these types of companies. How does someone like that, who built something that understands what it means to create jobs and and build companies, how do they go so far left to this Marxist ideology, you called it, egalitarianism? How, like, you interviewed the one guy that wanted to bump up everybody's pay in the company to $70,000. It was sort of contentious. Price. Dan Price. Yeah, Dan Price, exactly. How do you go from building such a massive company, but built on the principles of what America's founded on, on capitalism, free enterprise, the free market, and they go so far left? How does that happen?

Well, I mean, I'm really trying to process this. It's either second-generation money. So meaning, you didn't earn it. Because if you earned it, it's a different mindset. But many of these guys earned it. Okay. Jobs' wife got it. Okay. Melinda Gates, fine. MacKenzie Bezos. MacKenzie B. Totally get it. You didn't do. Like in our community, I'll walk by and, you know, I'll see some of the people that, you know, or maybe they married, they're the second or third wife of a guy after he made the money, and then the first wife's no longer in the picture. Well, the first wife was probably. But then you go like, well, you know, you see when they talk to them, they just look down at you sometimes. Like, okay, very weird. And some are very friendly, right? You process both of these on how it is. And then you go and you ask another question and you say, okay, so maybe someone's got something on these guys. Maybe they're scared of somebody. Maybe they're frightened of somebody. Maybe somebody even more powerful than them has got, you know, them under control for whatever reason. But the more and more and more you go deeper, you're like, dude, this is going to eventually end up hurting you. Like, in what way do you think this is going to favor you? Like, actually, what do you think's going to happen? I understand somebody like, for example, proxy wars. Okay. I understand a proxy war. Why do I understand a proxy war? To me, you know what a proxy war is? Oh, Adam, you won't believe what Vinnie said to you. Vinnie, you won't believe what Adam said to you. And I'll watch you guys fight. M-okay, that's a proxy war, right? That's that's instigating. Yeah. Shut up, Adam. That's instigating to see that. So maybe you do that to create division in the enemy's house. Mhm. Okay. Deceptive? Yes. Dark? For sure. Sinister? Yeah, totally is. But, you know what? I get it. Because at least it's what someone else's house. Yeah, yeah. But imagine you pin your own kids against each other. And you intentionally, you know, get the front security, let's just say you live in a gated community, to get him to get fired. And you replace him with sloppy people that are 82-year-old security. You know how you go to a hotel? They got these 82-year-old security people they hire. And you're like, who's this guy going to stop? Right? This guy's going to stop anybody? No. Then you allow people to come into your community for what? For them to invade your house and hurt your own kid? That's the part where there's a disconnect. That doesn't make sense.

So some of them are insulated. I mean, they have priced out the real estate market in their home of Sun Valley, Aspen, Kennebunkport. They are legitimately isolated from any of the consequences of their political decisions. I mean, if you go to Aspen, you would think that, you know, like we have solved every problem. I mean, if you go to Aspen in July, right? Everyone is like fit and trim. There's, there's not like a BMI over like 35. Right? I was literally there in July. Am I right? This freaking par-all of a sudden you're like, why can't we have world peace? And is there a, you know what? No. It's, it's, it's almost like you just, like when you're completely isolated and you're not around any of this. Well, not only that, when you are surrounded by very successful, good-looking, attractive, high IQ people. That's not number one, Patrick. So they really, they, they are not in compo-they are not in, you know, a neighborhood that is going to be overrun. They're not in the real Grand Valley. They're not in, you know, Cville, Texas, that's going to be overrun. But there's another part to this, though. And some of the billionaires look at themselves. There's two categories that I want to mention that we haven't. They look at themselves as masters of the universe. And these are usually tech people. This is Larry Page, this is Sergey Brin, this is Mark Zuckerberg. I get those guys. Okay? For them, they really think they can reconfigure society through AI technocracy, almost like a highly sophisticated oligarchy because they think that the problem is that we haven't had smart enough people in charge. Almost ruled by committee. And I want to be in charge of that committee. Okay? But the second part, Patrick, is that some of these guys will do whatever it takes so that they are favored by the Politburo. They'll give any amount of money. They really don't have any ideological spin either way. They just want to be on the winning team. If the right wing was ascendant in the country, some of these guys would be giving money to like pro-life clinics and churches. They, some of these guys just go with the wind. They want to be protected by the regime. They don't really believe anything.

Dude, let me, let me, let me tell you, man. I mean, uh, uh, okay, go. Let's play the dark game. Let's play. Let's go dark. Okay. All right. So, um, I'm on a flight yesterday and my pilot is the pilot I like. You, you actually met this pilot. He's the pilot. So I see him. I said, "How you doing?" "Not good." I said, "Okay." I said, "What do you think about what's going on?" Last time he was with us when we went to Milwaukee, you know, I, I like him. Yeah. So, so, "How you doing?" "Obviously not good." "Family?" "How's family?" "Not good." "Family in Israel?" "How about this? How about that? How about this?" Anyways, I can't tell you everything we talked about because I found out who he is and what he did his job in Israel. Very interesting, very serious guy. He says to me, says, "You know what, though? The Israeli community right now is very happy with Joe Biden." I said, "Really? Tell me why." He says, "Because he's, uh, he's got our back. And he's shown so many great, uh, things he's doing. You know, Blinken is going there and he went to shake hands with Netanyahu. And, you know, they're showing support. And they're with us. And they're saying, 'Pro-Israel.' And they're saying this. And even Jean-Pierre, you know, came out and said a couple words. The Squad, she went after the Squad. That's right. Which is kind of weird, right? Crazy. So, okay, so you're sitting there, you're like, you know, maybe the center people are like, okay, these guys sound normal, right? Okay. So let's play dark. Did you need something like this for you to create a war to the point where the reelection percentage of a president goes so high when there's a war? So you can get reelected? Maybe. Is it because the amount of chaos you learned in 2020 elections was so chaotic? So it increases the chance of you being able to win another election? Because the more chaotic it was, you can tell people, "What we're going to be doing," and they're already accustomed to it. Maybe they'll be more open-minded to it. Maybe. Is it, is it because maybe even on the other side, for me, that I think about Netanyahu and Israel? First of all, who has the best secret intelligence in the world? Mossad. You mean to tell me, no, you mean to tell me these guys have been that low-key underground for a year, built a city like the one in Israel, and they trained their guys to go in and how to break into homes and how to take people hostage? And you're telling me you didn't know? Seriously? And Egypt comes out, by the way, the story came out, it's like, well, you know, we told them, we warned them that something was taking place. Another story came out about Egypt. R-if you tell me what page it's on, then they said they didn't. They're going back and forth. Yeah, they're saying they, you're like, so, so make up your mind. Did you know or did you not know? So what is really going on? So then I go later, deeper, and I'll turn it over to you. Is, okay, did, did Israel almost, you know, because I'm talking to this other guy and he says, "I said, you realize what happened in 2014?" He says, "Yeah." I said, "2014, when they, you know, the three girls were kidnapped and then, you know, whatever happened, raped, travesty. And then Israel comes back and kills 2,000 people." He said, "It should have been 20,000. It should have been 200,000." So I said, "Where are you going with this?" He says, "Well, listen, here's what I'd like to see happen in Israel." "What's that?" "Only Jews live in Israel. Nobody else. We don't need to coexist. It's just not going to work out." Is this a way for Netanyahu's legacy to be? He eliminated Hamas. Is this his way for saying, "Now I got the world, I got the card, I got the, you know, get out of jail card for me to go straight up 100,000 on the blockade of Gaza Strip, 300,000 reservists, you put up there. Now we're going to go groundwork. We're going all freaking out because the world gave us the permission to do so." Is that what it is? I don't know. I just keep continuing to have a lot of questions. The more I think about it, because so these guys are coming up. So what are we going to have another 9/11? And they're going to come and do what? They're going to go into your community. What are you going to target next? Where are you going to go next? What's, what's going to happen next? Oh, can we, it's not a big deal. It's never, never happen again. Well, that's what we thought. It was never going to happen. 9/11. Before 9/11 happened, nobody thought 9/11 was going to happen. So I, I, I just have way too many questions that makes me think about what the motives are. And if we go dark, I put all those things out there. Yeah. How did, how did these guys not know this was taking place?

I've been to Israel many times. The whole country is a fortress. When I first heard this story, I still have the same gut instinct that I did initially. I find this very hard to believe. I've been to that Gaza border. You cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19-year-old with an AR-15 or an automatic machine gun. An IDF soldier, right? The whole country is surveilled. And so, so let me, let me just kind of go through this. We don't talk about Israeli politics very often. And most Americans don't know this. The last nine months, Israel was on the brink of civil war. It's not an exaggeration. This judicial stuff, there were, there were hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu is basically redefining the Israeli Constitution. That's not an exaggeration, right? He said the judicial branch has too much power. There were protests planned this week against Netanyahu where they anticipated tens of thousands of people to take to the streets. That's all gone. Patrick. Netanyahu now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead. I'm not, I'm not willing to say to go so far that saying that Netanyahu knew or there is intelligence here, but I think some questions need to be asked. Was there a stand-down order? Was there a stand-down order? Six hours? I don't believe it. Israel's the size of New Jersey. When I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes. Wow. Six hours. They're live-streaming the killing of Jews. Did somebody in the government say, "Stand down"? That is a legitimate, non-conspiracy question. The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is. And you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and kibbutzes and schools and by reports, six hours, let's say it's three hours, that's suspect.

Go ahead, Rob. It's also not like a right-winged, uh, reporting. This is from The New York Times. "The Long Wait for Help as Mass Unfolds in Israel." I can't think of a more liberal news outlet than The New York Times. And, but by the way, I, I'm actually very pro-Israel. So let me be very, I mean, so I'm not exact, I think we all are. No, no, I just want to make sure my position is clear here. But I would, so Patrick, there are other explanations. It's possible that the Netanyahu government was double-crossed by bad agents. Okay? That's dark, but it's not as dark as what we're talking about. Okay? Another aspect is that Netanyahu might have traitors in his government. Like legitimate traitors that have infiltrated. I was texting with some senior people in the IDF, and they said, "Charlie, can't say too much, but let's just say the same problem you have with the left in America, we have here in Israel." Just something to think about. Just something to think about, right? Is that maybe there are some people within those intel agencies that aren't as sympathetic? Or maybe, Patrick, maybe they might have gotten a tip. They might have gotten whispers. But no one thought it would be 1,200 Jews dead. That's a potential, right? Because here, here's the, here's the essence of it. The essence is this: This is the closest thing to the Holocaust that any of us have lived through. But the fact is now, Bibi and the Israeli hard-right government has a mandate. I gotta be careful the way I say this to. They're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. Yep. I mean, that's, and I don't use that term lightly, okay? They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people from there. Okay? And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge. They do. There is, they, this idea that they need to have a truce or a peace treaty, that's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets. But there are some serious questions here, Patrick. And let me tell you, my pattern recognition over the last five years has become pretty sharp. COVID, Maui fires, you know, Epstein. When I see a story and it doesn't click, we're our guts are usually right. Yeah, this one's, this one's very weird.

Can I, um, comment on the, you know, when you use the term ethnic cleansing, that will, you know, make the on the back of us? No, I'm not, I'm just saying that term, uh, actually did some research specifically on that because that is a very slippery slope. And if you actually want to talk about what Jews and even Christians, uh, should be most fearful of, Muslims as well, is the concept of ethnic. Okay, I just want to be very, sorry to interrupt. I'm saying that's what they're going to be accused of, correct? But if there are some people in public life in Israel that, Patrick, what did your pilot guy say? "I want only Jews in Israel." Right? Okay. That is a form of ethnically cleansing because 20% of Israel is Arab Muslim. Correct. 20%. And people don't, don't know that. And I've been to Israel several times. I was there a few months ago and I saw the protests. Yes. You know, you don't have to be, uh, uh, expert at Israeli politics to understand the divisiveness of politics, especially in America. We understand like Republicans, Democrats, blacks, white, whatever it is. Similar in Israel. There's the liberal faction, mostly based in Tel Aviv, and more the conservative faction in Jerusalem and throughout the country. And obviously, the more Orthodox you are, the more you're, um, inclined to be more right-wing thinking. But I think civil war is a little premature, but there is major contention going on there. The country was, was at a fissure point, right? It was, it was splitting. No doubt. Just like there was calls for potential civil war here. I, I, I, I sort of think that's a little aggressive, but you would agree it was hot. The country was hot. Doubt. Just like the BLM riots here. No, no, it, it, it was not a time for unity in Israel. The, the thing that I think to just to think about when you talk about, not I'm not saying you're accusing anything, you just use the term. So the concept ethnic cleansing is the biggest fear of the Jewish people. Okay? It's the whole reason that Israel was founded because of the ethnic cleansing that occurred throughout Europe for millennia, right? Obviously culminating with World War II. But there's no doubt that Hamas, that Israel could wipe out Gaza at any given point. But they do not want to participate in ethnic cleansing. Now, they would love to annihilate the terrorists. But if you actually talk about what's going around the world today, and this is what Israel needs to kind of take note of, that's what I was talking about, Patrick. I'm sorry to interrupt. This is a protest in the summer. This is every day. There were people in the streets. Saw July of the country was separating. This is such a hotbed issue right now. But if you talk about ethnic cleansing, look at what's going on in Azerbaijan and Armenia. P-something that, that 11,000 Armenian Christians, nobody's talking about that. We've seen what's going on in Bosnia. They were, they were Bosnian Christians were killing Muslims. We've seen what's going on in Myanmar. Nobody talks about that. Okay? Uh, Christians are actually, there's an article right here from the KO Institute. Who are the most persecuted people in the world? Well, it's actually Christians. You've probably done your research on this. I, I talk about it all the time. You go to Afghanistan, you go to Iraq, you go to Iran, you go to China, you go to Nigeria. They're killing Christians. Here it is, right here from the KO Institute, right? Okay. So the, the, the whole concept of ethnic cleansing, I think temperatures need to go down because it's, it's not egalitarian. People are killing people for multiple reasons. And here's Israel's difficulty is that Hamas, they build their headquarters under hospitals, correct? They use human as human shields. And so civilians are going to die. And that is a tragedy. And Hamas brought this upon themselves. My wish, my plea to Israel is be precise. Be focused in your retaliation. You have a moral right to go and seek the blood of the people that did this. What I, I think would be bad for Israel, and I have a heart for Israel. I, I can't tell you what it did. It, it made me a stronger Christian, a way I can't even tell you, right? Be able to see where our Lord rose from the dead. My heart for Israel is that they don't overreact. And I, and Patrick, you hear what I'm saying here, right? I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm that, that's my concern. Because if they do, uh, again, if they do overreact, I'm more coming from a place of thinking this was intentional. If they don't overreact, then this wasn't intentional. Meaning, if all of a sudden you see an all-out annihilation. What do you mean by intentional? That they knew it was going to happen? That no, when you're asking about the stand-down, six hours and three hours, why did you? What are you getting? So we're on the same pict-face. I just wanted to make sure I understood. If there is a major attack, it was intentional. If there's a major attack, and by the way, um, the, the number in the last, however many years, the big, the biggest number they have is 2,000, right? Palestinians that died. That's the biggest number they've had. And in Gaza, if you look at the Gaza Strip on, if you can pull up the map so you can kind of show Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and you know, where coming from Lebanon, yeah. But, but in one, in West Bank, it's a different story because in West Bank, at least, you know, 42% of Palestinians there support Hamas. But in Gaza, it's 58%. Hamas really isn't in those regions. It really is not in those regions. So this is, this is Gaza Strip, you know, all the way to the left.

Can I emphasize though, look at the cameras, the radars, Patrick? Not only did they go in, say, but let, hear me out here. Not only did they go into Israel, they got out of Israel with hostages. Yeah, 100 hostages. So you would think, let me, let me just hear me out. There's a penetration of your border wall, okay, that you guard on a holy day, the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War. And you would think, hey, let's, they're going to come back. Let's make sure that doesn't happen. Let's mobilize some forces. And it, it is, it is not quite, but it is close to the North Korean demilitarizing. What's weird about what you're saying that gets even more credibility is you're a pro-Israel guy. No, that, I want to be very clear. No, fully. I know that. So I want to make sure the audience knows this. So for you to question that, and for me to question, I'm like sitting here saying, "How did you not know this was taking place?" But again, going back to it, if, okay, so let's go, let's go to a different, uh, uh, uh, angle here, okay? So, um, many times when crisis happens, we, we sit, "Oh my gosh, we immediately go to World War III." Like we have a yearning for, you know, Armageddon. There's almost a little bit of a yearning people have for, "Oh my God, what would a civil war really look like?" Bro, that's like crazy. I get to take a month off from work, like, sh-, you said, and play cards all day. I have all these guns I want to use them. These are people that have never gone to a country that's at war or never experienced war. No, it's the worst thing human being. Trust me. Like I posted a picture the other day. My sister texted me, "Polette, I'm like, you know, you always talk about putting the, you know, tapes on the windows." Yeah. I don't know if you saw that picture. It's like that picture was po-, like, "Look at this picture. What do you see unique in this picture?" I said, "It's pretty cool." "You and I when we were kids." He says, "No, no, look at the glass." I'm like, "Oh, just in case they." This is the tapes. This is me and Iran with my sister when we would get bombed. One day we got bombed 167 times. Okay? We, my dad would put tape so the window wouldn't explode on our faces. Because that's our bedroom. Like I'm on, I'm on this side is the, uh, uh, is the, and then the other side is our.

Rooms, and he's like, "Hey, if something happens, so you look at these stories." They're like, "Yeah, I mean, kids are going through." But go, go a little bit deeper with this. Let's go a little bit deep. Let's, let's go next step here with this, okay? What, what is truly the worst case that's going to happen? We have a fascination and an obsession with market crash, collapse, war, civil war. This is the last election. This is the most important election of all time, I'm telling you, or else we're going to lose America, right? Of course, all of these things is a way of controlling fear, urgency. I get it. There's a certain element of, you know, motives behind it that that's effective. But how ugly do you think this actually can get? Like the domino effect, if this happens, these guys react, and if these guys react, these guys have to react. That meme where it like all starts with, you know, a mean tweet and it ends in nuclear war. You ever see that meme, domino effect? Yes, you know which one I'm talking about. Sorry, D, interrupt. Yeah, so what do you, how ugly can? Well, I mean, look here. So let me also make sure I criticize both sides, okay? So I'm going to criticize the people that, you know, do the paragliding and it's sick. Lindsey Graham is an irresponsible, responsible lawmaker. What for? What he's saying, bombing Iranian oil depot. This thing could get wildly out of control, very, very quickly. The last thing America needs is a kinetic war against Iran, an 87 million person country that has a pretty fierce fighting spirit, a country that's five times the size of Iraq, five times the size of Iraq. We're going to go start bombing oil depots? Yeah, that could get Russia further involved, China involved. Yeah. Look, the quote-unquote Armageddon situation is that for Israel, the Armageddon situation is that they overreact so much that they lose their Arab neutrality. Right now, they have neutrality with Egypt. If they overreact, they could lose that. They have warm conversations, I won't say a peace deal yet, with Saudi Arabia. They could lose that. Jordan plays ball because America demands they play ball. They could lose that. Syria, Bashar al-Assad, he acts as if it doesn't exist, but that could change in a moment's notice, right? Lebanon, via Hezbollah, is already there. They could be all of a sudden dealing with a 15-country invasion of Israel. Can they handle that? They have in the past. I mean, the Six Day War, the Yom Kippur War, the Yom Kippur War, for example, they were invaded from every direction. At the Balfour Declaration, when they became a country in 1948, every Arab country declared war on them, and then they were, they almost lost the country. And to their credit, they held it off, and they earned the right to be Israel. But I don't know what that looks like. No one does. And you're talking about countries that have some form of nuclear weaponry as well. Saudi Arabia doesn't have a total nuclear developed bomb, but they, you know, they have some sophistication, far more than Iran. But yeah, look, I mean, I'm not an alarmist, but if we take the path of Nikki Haley and Lindsey Graham, like we're dramatically increasing the chances of a World War. Can we stay right there on the Iran situation? Obviously, this is very close to home. Lunatic wants it. It's a PBD. Uh, that picture, I think, says a thousand words. The tape on the windows. You're used to this when you've seen bombings like this, you've seen death like this. You wish this upon nobody. But the biggest question is, like, you know, we're so focused on what's going on in Russia-Ukraine. Granted, obviously, the big picture, I think we can all agree, is what's going on with China, right? That's the big picture here. But, you know, in this region, the tip of the spear with all these issues is Iran. So as much as Lindsey Graham sounds, uh, like a lunatic, like a, like a wild man, war-mongering wild man, John Bolton-esque type person, they're the same person. He is at least bringing up the fact that Iran needs to be dealt with at the heels of all this. What's going on? And you, you bring up like, what, you know, so yeah, that's important. The next five moves of Israel. They're there at the final innings of this deal with Saudi Arabia. Obviously, Saudi Arabia and Iran are enemies. Shia, Sunni, irreconcilable, right? So what must be done with Iran at this point? Because to be, to be clear, they're the ones that fund Hamas. They're the ones that fund Hezbollah. They're the greatest exporter of terrorism around the world. To America, after we give them $6 billion, what do we do there? The first thing is, we must remember that we, the American government, are the reason why Iran is radical. We did this. They had a democratically elected leader that we did not like. I remember, I believe his name was Mosaddegh. Mosaddegh? Yeah. Mosaddegh. Thank you. And we didn't like him because he wanted to nationalize the oil, specifically the Brits didn't like it. This, what year was this? PBD? Okay, got you. This is before the show. Yes. He, he was very popular. And look right there, even, even in Wikipedia, 1953, Iranian coup aided by intelligence agencies of the UK and United States. Weird. Got it. Okay. So then we put the Shah back in, if my memory serves me correctly, who was sick and unpopular, meaning he was actually suffering physically sick. And we paved the way for the most radical elements of Islam from a country that, Patrick, you know it better than I do, the Persian people are the most entrepreneurial. They're some of the smartest people that have really been living under radical Islamic captivity for many decades. Why am I bringing this up? Sometimes your intervention can make things far, far worse. Sometimes intervention is moral and necessary. Our intervention in World War II in Europe was moral and necessary. So what to do? Well, I think Joe Biden should definitely not give them $6 billion. I think that's a good start. I think that sanctions is probably appropriate. But I also think that we have to be really clear that Iran is an enemy of the United States. But it pales in comparison to the immediate and the pernicious and the existential threat that the Chinese Communist Party poses to America. And I don't want to see us get into the Lindsey Graham dream world that Iran is somehow murdering Americans. They are financing terror. They're chanting death to America. But China right now is actively creating fentanyl that comes into our country that kills over 100,000 people. Not everyone fentanyl, but drug overdoses. Yes, over a majority of the 100,000. What I'm getting at is, I, as a millennial turning 30, know nothing but Middle Eastern no-win war quagmire, right? Yep. And I am cynical. And I'm very, I think it's my moral responsibility and my public role as a commentator to slow down the chatter anytime we're talking about accelerating us closer to another conflict in the Middle East. Because we did it in Iraq. I think it was a mistake. We spent trillions of dollars and we lost precious American lives. Led to the, led to ISIS. And you want the thought crime, honestly, Saddam Hussein kept a lot of the terrorists in check. Yep. Scared of. He was a bad guy, but he wasn't the worst guy. And I think the same thing in Afghanistan. So what do we do? I think first, we have to calm down the neoconservatives that are bloodthirsty and want war more than they want what's best for America. Yeah. You know, you know what is, uh, this is actually, I think it's going to be a filtering. By the way, I don't know if this video is recent or we shared it the other day or it's right after they killed Soleimani. I don't know exactly the date of this video. So just kind of verify when this video was. What does it say right there? This video was from three years ago. Okay. Yeah, this is when we killed Qasem. But attitude hasn't changed. Opinions have changed dramatically. You, you under, under, you talk about with Mad, Mosaddegh was a guy that came in who was the modern-day Bernie Sanders. He wanted to nationalize everything. He wanted to nationalize everything. He wanted to, you know, he, you know, nationalize everything. And then the Shah comes in. The Shah comes back, comes back, modernizes the whole thing. Education improves. Women finally have no longer, you know, age of marriage for girls are no longer eight years old or 13 years old. He raised it to, I think, whatever it was, 15 years old. And then women can actually go become lawyers and go to school. Education for women changed. Then what happened in the Middle East when Iran was run by him, R. Pahlavi, the Shah? The conflict in the Middle East was less, okay? Because now it was Iran who had a good relationship with us for the most part, except when there was a Democratic president, there were issues. But for the most part, they had a good relation with us. And he had his 25-year contract. He wrote the, the, if you can go to 1954 Iran oil deal. It was a 1954, the deal was coming up till 1979. Uh, uh, um, or something. So it's called the Consortium Agreement of 1954. This was a deal they did. Yeah, British Petroleum. Yeah. This was a deal they did that was a 25-year deal. This is what's so interesting about it. Watch this. 1954. So the provided Western oil companies with 50% ownership of Iranian oil production after its ratification in 1954, expiring what year? 1979. So the, the, the PM, I think the leaders of UK, US, I want to say France, and one other country met in South or Central America to talk about how to prevent this 25-year contract from coming up because the Shah was going to go away from the 50% deal. That's right. And he was going to rule the world. He was going to become so powerful. 1979 is when it expires. Guess when the Shah, Shah expired? 1979. Maybe a little bit of a strange timing on what they did with this year. And then comes Khomeini, comes Hezbollah, comes the 3,000 political prisoners. Because Jimmy Carter is talking about human rights, they're freed. A lot of them ended up becoming the ISIS, the Hezbollah, the Two-Day Party, the Communist, who ended up doing 9/11. So, and Carter was pushing this with them. The similar thing that he did with Cuba, as well, was like, hey, you need to free. It's not fair for what you're doing with your people, human rights. He says, no problem. Here's 125,000 people I'm releasing from Cuba to us. And who did he release? Political. All those guys. I'm just a political refugee. I'm a political prisoner, right? Is what I am. And boy, unemployment, unemployment in Miami goes up to 50%. But I understand what you're saying with the Iran situation and what's going to happen there. So let me, let me bring you back to a different thing. If you got one last thought about this, I want to, I don't want to just, the Iran thing is so fascinating to me because I think they are the tip of the spear of what's going on in the Middle East. And then who are they funded by? China. What was the amount of money that they gave them? $400 billion. Million. So here's my question to you, 25 years, okay? Just to kind of emphasize this. If you're a consultant or the, uh, National Security Advisor to whether it's Donald Trump or Joe Biden or whoever it is, PBD, how do you deal with Iran? Do you pull out of the nuclear deal entirely like Trump did? Do you get back into the nuclear deal? Do you give them any money whatsoever? $6 billion for the hostages. How do you deal with Iran? What do you do? Yeah, I think Trump had it right, which, remember, there was clamoring for Trump to go to war against Iran and strike, and he resisted that. The same time, he was tough and very firm where he, you know, canceled the Iran deal, went after Soleimani. But you have to have your priorities. What is best for America? War with Iran is not what is best for America. There's some other facts about Iran that are important though. I think the Iran situation solves itself over a period of time. I believe 50% of their population under, under the age of 35. We can fact-check it. They have one of the youngest populations on the planet. We could fact-check it. It might, it might not be that extreme. Um, but you have a very, very radical government. The people of Iran are incredibly talented. They're entrepreneurial. They're industrious. And I, I, I'm actually more bullish on the future of Iran if you can liberate them from the captivity that they're under. Here, you do that. Is my point. You saw what happened last year with the girls. That's, that's what's one of the youngest. We saw what happened when a girl took off her hijab, she was killed, beaten. The women have no rights there. The answer is, it shouldn't be a top priority of the American government because we have so many problems here to execute a CIA coup in another country. You have to put sanctions on. You have to put them in check. You have to try to, in my personal opinion, allow Israel to seek justice. At the same time, you cannot allow this to turn into a regional broader war. You know why? Because the adult America is going to have to come clean it up. That's why. If we allow, if we just kind of say, oh, it doesn't, this thing turns into a regional conflict, we're going to have more troops on the ground, and we're going to have to go clean up this mess, as Trump calls it, in the region of sand and death, while our own country is disintegrating and collapsing. But look, there's a lot of other technical things you could do to Iran, right? You can, you can prevent them access to European markets, which Joe Biden hasn't done, right? They go and shop in Paris and London all the time. You cut that crap off, right? Just like lifestyle stuff that you could easily do. You cut off student visas, right, from certain Iranian expats. You can put extra sanctions on. There's a lot of other tools you can do. Um, and the number one thing you can do is you drill, baby, drill here domestically, and you weaken Iran's energy hedge of money, basically. If you increase the oil supply, which Donald Trump had us energy independent and exporting more oil than we were importing, you significantly weaken Iran, and you weaken Russia too, if that actually, if you care about that, right? The more you explore for oil in the American homeland, the weaker these governments that are reliant on the petrodollar become. What would you add to that, PBD? I think he said he said everything, and more than what I would have said. Uh, look here's, here's interesting. I'll transition it. Kind of makes sense to what you want to say. The Niro yesterday came out and ripped Donald Trump again. Oh God. And he says Trump is evil. He wrote out a whole thing in, in a speech. Want to be tough guy with no morals or ethics. Let me, let me just read this to you, and I'll give you my thoughts on this. Uh, so Theo, keep going a little lower. The entire speech is at the bottom. Go lower, lower, lower, lower. You'll see it when it's there, right? This article, three years ago. He does this every six months. But here's the thing though, here's the thing though, okay. Uh, I'm sorry I couldn't be with you today. A few days ago, I came down with a heavy cold. D. Okay, great. I'm with you in spirit. I'm watching. It's okay. Go. I've spent a lot of time studying bad men. I've examined their characteristics, their mannerisms, the utter, uh, banality of their cruelty. Yet, there's something different about Donald Trump. When I look at him, I don't see a bad man, truly. I see an evil one. Over the years, I've met many gangsters here and there. This guy tries to be one, but he can't quite pull it off. There's such a thing as honor among thieves. Yet, even criminals usually have a sense of right and wrong. Whether they do the right thing or not is a different story, but they have a moral code, however warped. Trump does not. He's a wannabe tough guy with no morals or ethics, no sense of right or wrong, no regard for anyone but himself. Not the people he's supposed to lead or protect, not the people he does business with, not the people who follow him blindly and loyally, not even the people who consider themselves as friends. He has contempt for all of them. We New Yorkers got to know him over the years. He was poisoned the atmosphere. Literal ego. We knew first hand who he was. We tried to warn you in 2016. The repercussions, tribulation, 2020. Okay, the man who was supposed to protect this country, put in peril, but of his recklessness, impulsivity, was an act of, okay, no mistake about it. They twice impeached, four times indicted. Trump is still a fool, but we can't let our fellow Americans write him off. Evil thrives in the shadow of dismissive mockery, which is why we must take the danger of Donald Trump seriously. So today, we issue another warning. Okay, fantastic. J, from this place where Abraham Lincoln spoke, right there in the beating heart of New York, to the rest of America. This is our last chance. Democracy won't survive the return of a wannabe dictator, and it won't become over anyway. He keeps going. This like ChatGPT, but this is the point I want to make to what he says, okay? Great. Got it. You said this a few years ago. Shrug. That just keeps going. You know what he, you know what he made me think about? This is what he made me think about. That Trump is a gangster. Okay, no problem. Who the hell chooses to become a president? One of two people, okay? Either somebody who is a gangster, or somebody who's controlled by gangsters that don't have a face to him. Which one would you rather have? So is Biden a gangster? No, he's just a face. Gangsters are controlling what he does. He's a face. Is Trump a gangster? He's a gangster. Yep. Is Reagan a gangster? He's a gangster. Is Kennedy a gangster? He's a gangster. Is Obama a gangster? He's not a gangster. He's controlled by, by other people. We can keep going on and on about all these gangsters, okay? No problem. So I've actually spent time with gangsters, like real gangsters. Couple, like any one of them that's living, I pretty much have them on the podcast, and we've spent time with them, okay? We've had conversations on camera, off camera. And here's what I will say about the history of the mob. Whenever the boss was feared, people weren't going killing each other. It's just how it was in New York. Whenever the boss was weak, guess what people were doing? Going whacking each other. Why? Because the boss was not somebody that you feared at that level where he's going to come back and do anything to you, okay? It was like, "Don't do it again, Adam. That's not cool." Right? Versus, "Hey, you take the other made man out, or you put your hand on another." Here's what's going to happen to you right there. There was a certain element of fear. There's three things that a great leader has to have. Fear. You have to be feared. Now, especially when you're running the most powerful country in the world. That's the hated, and the loved, and the admired. All three. You got to be feared. You got to be respected. And if desert, the last one is desert. If you can be liked, even better. Reagan was liked. Trump's not liked, okay? Let's just say amongst some of these other guys. Fear, respect is necessary. Trump was feared, and he was respected, and he walked around. Love him or hate him, we didn't have wars. So going back to what you're asking about Iran, what he would do. Here's what he would be doing. There's no six-hour standoff or three-hour standoff. Here's what we're doing. He's doing a, what do you call it, a press conference going out. Here's what we're going to do. Here's what we're. Remember that one time when he, he says, Abu Bakr, what was his name? Abu Haddy, Haddy? He cried like he said, and you're like, who uses these words? Right? He was begging. It was such a. Can you pull up this video clip if you have it? Obviously, it's like a, it's almost like out of a movie. One day, our kids are going to watch this movie about Trump, and they're going to say, "He would never say such a thing." No, no, son, go watch the real clip. He actually said that. Dad, a president would never say something like that. But you know what he did? So to me, this is the element where I have a hard time sitting here saying, "Yeah, none of this stuff is on Biden." In the US, I'm sorry, nobody fears or respects or likes Biden. So guess what? All the gangsters out there are saying, "Dude, go and get everything you want." You know, hey, California, they say, "What? You can go rob CVS or whatever." All these $500 for it, man. Go, guys, go. We don't care. We're okay with it. Nobody's more worried about Skittles than fentanyl the other day. You know, this guy's spending more time talking about Skittles. Go for it. So if, if, you know, Biden is a governor of the world, let's just say he's the president now, the free world. Everybody else is saying, "If there's ever been a time to go rob and take whatever you want, right now is the time to do it, because we have no clue who the hell is coming next." So yeah, De Niro, as much as I love you, your movies, your work, you're an incredible actor, dude. You are so at this point off base, it's not even funny how much anger and hate you have towards this guy. And I would love to see you actually sell. Instead of bashing Trump, why don't you flip it on us, De Niro? Go ahead, sell Biden. Go ahead. Sell it to us. Write the same kind of a novel you just wrote, but sell Biden. Sell us how amazing the economy is. Sell us how peaceful the world is right now. Sell us how everybody is so comfortable with their jobs, their houses, their mortgage rates. Sell us all of that stuff. How phenomenal he's doing. You can trash Trump all you want. He ain't the president. Biden's your president. What has Biden done? Why don't you do it? I'd love to see De Niro sell Biden. I don't know if he can do it. Maybe that's why he doesn't do it. It's easy to trash Trump than to go after selling us how incredible of a job Biden's done. Numbers came out the other day. I think it's the lowest, uh, approval rating. Approval rating that just came out about Biden. So what, what are your thoughts when you hear De Niro on some of these guys giving, giving us a lecture here on who Trump is? Well, first of all, you know, you're Machiavelli. So, uh, one of the most important books ever written, really started the Enlightenment, is The Prince by Machiavelli. Um, and we use Machiavelli as a pejorative, right? "Oh, Machiavelli." And we don't quite understand the brilliance of the insight of Machiavelli. Machiavelli was actually applying for a job. That's what The Prince was to the Medici family. Uh, he wrote a series of letters, and he was like, "Hey, hire me as your political consultant, basically your political advisor." Um, and what Machiavelli really wrote is, yes, I mean, there's a couple things, "ends justify the means," but that's such a small, like, portion. It really is. It is the most complete to date, comprehensive picture of how to rule justly, how to establish order, and how to have different tribes and factions and sects be able to understand hierarchy. Have you be respected? Use fear as a weapon, as a tool. Um, and he did it in such a profound way that, I mean, this guy knew his classics. He knew his Aristotle, knew his Aquinas, and Augustine. Anyway, I happen to study The Prince over the summer, and it will blow your mind. And you know what? The more you read it, the more you realize how much the left plays by the rules of Machiavelli. Wow. If the right played by the rules of Machiavelli as much as the left, we would win. And I don't just mean the ends justify the means. I mean, how to use political power. How to use political power. And you use that term "gangster." I got to tell you, Machiavelli laid out that kind of playbook. Trump, I don't know if he's ever read The Prince or not, maybe back in college or whatever, but probably didn't. But he, he plays that out. Niccolò, yeah, Niccolò Machiavelli. He started the Enlightenment. So he, uh, the be, he was the first guy to ever say, "Wait, hold on. We have all these old books and all these old writings. Why don't we just cast that aside and get what we want?" And that was, by the way, the Medici family, one of the only families that kept their wealth for five, six, seven generations. Vanderbilt couldn't do it. You know, some of these other families couldn't do it. Medici's been going for quite a long time. Florence. Which video is this? This is, he cried like a baby. Oh, I love this. Okay, go and play this. I used to go to sleep at night. I don't know if this is the right one. Actually, the leader of the Taliban. You would obliterate him if he dared not to follow every dotted I, cross T, comma, period. Abdul, I did have a conversation, had a number of conversations, didn't you? At one point, tell him, "I know exactly where you are," and give him the exact coordinates where he was. Oh, I sent him a picture of his house. He said, "But why? But why do you send me a picture?" Why is the music so loud? Figure that one out. You told him, "I send a picture of his house." That's it. It's very Machiavellian. But then think about this though, Charlie. This is the, the amount of hate that they had for there. One guy, remember when he did kill Soleimani? You know what CNN was calling Soleimani? He's a freedom fighter. Like they were almost feeling bad. And then Pelosi and all them went after him for killing a terrorist. That's how much Trump Derangement Syndrome. It's embedded in people like that. It's embedded in people like De Niro. And it's, bro, it's past Trump. It's the, it's the, it's what they stand for. Yes. Is enough is enough. That, that strength through peace. Like we, that's how we have to roll. Nobody respects us. Peace to strength. Everything is going to. And every, I, I, I'm tired of this. Everybody's tiptoeing. It's time that we start saying, "We told you so." We told you so about COVID. We told you so about the border. We told you that BLM was a scam that they were trying to screw all of us over. How many times are we going to go, "No," and brush it away? We told you. We woke, tried to wake your asses up. And now you got him writing a soliloquy. Nobody gives a about De Niro anymore, bro. Go, go make a movie. We don't have time to read that. He's just sitting around, Pat, New York, just hating Trump. We have more to worry about than than somebody worried about Trump, bro. Like it just drives me nuts that when I, when I hear De Niro, it's personal. It's personal. It's personal. Trump got together with a girl he was something. It's got to be something. You cannot, you cannot. There's something that is so personal for him to have that kind of hate towards Trump. I think, I think you, because you have spent so much time with the gangsters and Michael and Sammy and a lot of our friends, you bring up a great point, PBD. And to any of my leftists or people on the liberal friends, I totally understand why it would be very easy to not like Trump at face value. I get it. But the, the whole, do you want a strong leader running the mob, the country, what have you, or do you want a weak leader that nobody respects? And that's where you start to see some of the horribleness that happens over there. And to your point, who are the gangsters that are funding Biden or whoever the non-gangster president than it is? That's a very important point. I just don't want to just kind of gloss over that. It is, it is something that is, you, when you peel back the layers of who's funding Biden, who's putting these things together, I, I totally understand why, why that makes a lot. By the way, you know, this next debate that's coming up, the Republican debate, November, right? It's going to be Miami. The one that's going to be here. You're going to be able to filter out all the candidates very quickly. Very true. I think it's going to be like a, a pure filtering system. What did he just say? Wait, what did she just say? Are you, are you serious about? Okay, that one's gone. This one's gone. I know exactly where he's at. I know exactly where he's at. And I know exactly where she's at. Okay, cool. Here we go. Oh, yeah. I think this is going to be the fastest filtering system. Not that they're going to be doing anything with presidency. I'm not even talking about presidency, but for you to know, like, administration job, future, who's Israel-Palestine? Because you know Nikki Haley's going to be up there, right? Off the rip, talking about Iran. Why do you say that this one's going to be more of a filtering one? Because nothing happened in, uh, California was a show. Why Miami though? Because now you have like, when's the last time something like this happened in Israel? 50 years ago. I mean, this is like the biggest catastrophic event they've had since the Holocaust. You know, some are saying, okay, most Jews dead. This is, this is, this is not like, you know, people are worried about Jews, you know, in a sense of, you know, how big the population. It's 15 million people. You're not talking about 300 million Jews worldwide. You're not talking about 700 million Jews worldwide. The world's Jewry. Yeah, you're not talking. Bless you. You're not talking about a big number. Don't get me wrong. The criticism, and look at the power they have, the influence they have, the Hollywood, and all this stuff. Fair. We can have that conversation, no problem. But they're going to have to make their case and the argument. And I'm so curious to know how, how they're going to make the case. Obviously, Vivek was on, uh, Tucker, yeah, this last week, and Tucker said, you know, Nikki Haley sounds like a child. Right? And then Vivek tried to give like, protect her a little bit and say, I don't know about child, but I don't, you know, agree with what, you know, he's got to say or what she's got to say. It's going to be interesting. I think it's going to be a great filtering system. And, and by the way, let me transition to a complete different story. Um, have you followed what's going on with Aaron Rodgers and Kelsey and the Pfizer thing where ESPN is like, "What the hell is going on?" Let me read this story to you. ESPN Under Fire After Aaron Rodgers Challenges Travis Kelce to Vaccine Debate on Network. This is with Pat McAfee. They're saying, "Love McAfee is hilarious. I used to not like him. Now I have mad respect. That guy is ESPN. Rogers, Rogers playfully referred to Kelce as Mr. Pfizer, and Kelce responded with humor, coining the feud as Mr. Pfizer versus the Johnson & Johnson family." Uh, the controversy escalated when Rodgers, during his appearance on the Pat McAfee show, challenged Kelce to a vaccine debate. He suggested RFK as his partner and Anthony Fauci for Kelce. ESPN's NFL Insider Adam Schefter shared a clip describing it as the "potential next great American debate." The decision by ESPN to highlight this debate, which is rooted in widely debunked vaccine-related theories, this is a Mediaite story, triggered strong, uh, reactions with gambling reporter Dustin Galy stating, "ESPN should be embarrassed for airing this nonsense." A debate is embarrassing. You know, someone should find out how much does the Walt Disney Corporation receive from Pfizer in advertising every single year? That's a great question. I don't, I don't know. I watch, I watch too much football, right? I love it. It's my one indulgence. I know it's woke. I know. I don't care. I just love it. It's a beautiful sport. It's uniquely American. Do we have his audio of what Rodgers said on? By the way, this is his media outlet. Like Rogers goes to, that's AJ Hawk's show before he plays. This is true. Let's not forget Aaron Rodgers. Pat has a chip on his shoulder. Remember when he didn't want to get the vaccine? They shamed him. They called him a denier. Dude, everybody went after him like, uh, Novak Djokovic and made, and that's why I do think was brilliant when he won the Open. God bless him. And good for him. But bro, good for him because think about it. The, who's the Travis Kelce? God forbid all his young following, especially now with what's her face, the Swifties, and now football's up and telling people to get the vaccine. If God forbid, one of these 18-year-old boys that follows you, Travis, gets it and gets myocarditis, are you paying for it? His hospital bills? Are you? No, no, Adam. Are you going to take care of him? No, you're not. So to push this drug that's still freaking new on kids is ridiculous. So I mean, I love this because this is him getting them back for the that they put on. Good point. I mean, it wasn't too long ago, two years ago, he, you know, did an interview and he said he was immunized. Yeah, exactly. Immunized. So what does that mean? I'm just immunized. All right. And then obviously he's got some time on his hands with this Achilles injury. But do we have that audio? I mean, listen, you know, Mr. Pfizer said he didn't think he'd be in a vax war with me. Didn't think he'd be in a vax war with me. This ain't a war, homie. This is just conversation. But if you want to have some sort of duel, Pat, debate, have be on the podcast. Come on the show. Let's have a conversation. Pass it up. Let's do it like, uh, like in John Wick 4, right? So we both have a second, right? For somebody to help us out. I'm going to take my man, RFK Jr., okay? Okay. As an independent. Hell yeah, right? And he can have, you know, Tony Fauci or some other pharma. And we're wondering, am I going to keep this job or not? I'm happy we got that sorted. Thought for sure you're done. But obviously, wouldn't you watch that? Wouldn't you watch? Uh, it would never happen. I know, but I would pay-per-view for that. Charlie, wouldn't you pay to see that? Oh, it would. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask a question. How much money would you have to pay Anthony Fauci to do a three-hour debate, long-form podcast? $10 million bucks. He's not. He's not. No, I actually am asking you a real question. With what? What is the dollar amount for Anthony Fauci to agree on a three-hour debate for against RFK? Three hours. What? How much money would he, would he want? And realistically, I don't think he would do it. But $10 million bucks. He's not. I'm telling you right now. I'll pay the $10 million. I know. I will pay the $10 million on record right now. I'll pay Fauci $10 million bucks, three hours, live podcast with RFK, and he still won't do it. I'm telling you right now. I'll pay $10 million bucks and he still won't do it. He still will not do it because he'll get exposed. Are you kidding me? Yeah, because he's, he's not. There's no way this guy's going to do something like that. Do you know what RFK would do with him? With all the facts and everything. He still would. He wrote the book about him. That's right. He knows about him. If there's a guy, he would never do it with is with RFK. It would never happen. Never. He would be the type of guy that would come out and say, "Of course, I would do it. This isn't about money. This is about people's health." And there's no way in the world this makes any sense to sit down and talk to an RFK like this. I'm, I'm willing to tell you, put the number at $100 million. I was just going to say, what if we raised? What if everybody raised? He wouldn't do $100 million. Why do you think he won't do it? Go to jail after. Actually, ask the question. Why do you think he won't do it? Why he won't? Because he'll be, he'll be exposed for everything that he did. He can go to jail because he can't do it. Yeah, the people of power will never let him do it. Are you kidding me? He's, he won't get permission to do it. He works for these big pharma guys, right? You can pay him $100 million. They're going to call him and say, "Dude, you're, yeah, go ahead and do it and see what we do to your legacy at NIH and everything that we have on you. Go ahead and do it. Go ahead and do that. See what happens to you." He wouldn't do it for $100 million. So crazy because you're so right. He wouldn't do it for $100 million. Big Pharma would never allow him to do it. What if he said, "I'll do it. I'll take the $100 million, but you guys have to protect me." Like they're going to come after me. Stop it. No, they would. He's done. They would. They do the exact opposite of protect him. They would say, "All right, listen, guy, here's, here's X amount of money." I would, $10 million. I would do $10 million. I would run out the Miami Heat arena. Okay? I would bring RFK. I would sell 20,000 tickets. I would do it live. I would bring a moderator from the left to ask questions, a moderator from the right to ask questions. I'm the one that's going to be, I'm the one in the middle. I'm the main moderator. But I bring guys so you can ask RFK whatever questions you want as well. No problem. And somebody on the side can ask, uh, uh, uh, Fauci any questions they want outside of what RFK would ask. It would become a big event. It'd be an event the world would watch. Wow. And he would still not do it for $10 million bucks. I guarantee you. Just to add to that, because, uh, Charlie mentioned, you know, what Disney would do on this. Let's not forget Disney owns ABC, which owns ESPN, and the whole conglomerate right there. That's why you're bringing this up. But the bigger thing is, and you brought this up on the, uh, event that you did with Tim Pool and Matt Gates, which was awesome, and James O'Keefe, and you were railing against how much money, uh, goes to from Big Pharma to legacy media, to the CNNs of the world, to the Foxs of the world, cable news outlets of the world. And that you were harping on this is something that you, that you've been studying pretty closely. What would happen if they stopped taking Big Pharma money to these major cable outlets? You know what would happen? No. I mean, it makes up their whole bottom line, right? I mean, again, I watch a lot of football. Every other commercial is the Travis Kelce commercial. It is, it is running nonstop. Have that commercial. You can do two things at once. It's pathetic. Get a flu shot and the vaccine. Yeah. And I see it on ESPN property probably 10 times every Saturday for college football. Rob, we don't need to show it. We don't need to. And those are $50,000 throw spots. So that's, they're spending millions of dollars every day on that ad with ESPN. Yeah. And it's crazy. Charlie, you see the World Economic Forum lady? We, Rob, we covered it last week. She's literally, they're not even hiding anymore. You know what she said? "We tried to vaccinate the planet. Didn't work." She's like, "We tried to, you know, people can't grasp climate change." Now they're like, "Yeah, let's mess with the water." They're they're just relentless. They're trying to, they're trying to get rid of all these freaking vaccines, dude. It's disgusting. Let's talk about Steve Scalise and what's going on there. So story, Wall Street Journal, page 13, if you want to go to it. Um, this is, this is Speak of the House. This is all the mess that's what's going on with himself. Jim Jordan. Okay, here we go. Wall Street Journal, October 10th. Steve Scalise, Jim Jordan makes pitches for House Speaker as GOP Warriors grow. House Majority Leader Steve Scalise, Republican, and Representative Jim Jordan, Ohio, outlined their visions during a closed-door candidate forum. Lawmakers discussed priorities including reigning in $33 trillion national debt. According to one participant, some lawmakers expressed uncertainty about either candidate securing the necessary 217 votes, with Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene saying, "I don't think anybody has 217." A potential rule change could require repeated votes until the winning candidate gains, garners 217 votes, according to Representative Chip Roy and Marjorie Taylor Greene. Sought commitments from candidates, emphasizing support for moving a bill to transfer federal lands to Nevada. So Charlie, what's going on here? Is there going to be a decision being made? Yeah, there, there will be. Um, if Scalise becomes speaker, I think that's a downgrade from McCarthy, to be honest. I mean, I think Scalise is a sweet guy. I mean, a Democrat tried to murder him, right? So, I mean, and he's also battling cancer. That was during the whole softball game in DC. Was that? Yeah. And he's also battling cancer right now. So it's not personal, but let me just introduce, you know, a part of this that people are afraid to mention, okay? Um, you physically cannot do the job of Speaker of the House and travel 300 days and raise $300 million from now to next November in my personal opinion, and also fight cancer. That's a big thing. And that sounds, you know, kind of nasty or unfair, but that needs to be factored in. You have to understand, there's congressional elections every two years, right? Pat, you know what it's like to travel 300 days a year? It destroys your body, right? I traveled 3,000 days in the last decade, and it's not easy, right? My back is all screwed up. You don't imagine you're the Speaker of the House, you have a legislative agenda, you're constantly dealing with a very, very slim majority, you have to travel the country to go raise $300 million bucks, okay, minimum, because Hakeem Jeffries is building that war chest, building that war chest, building that war chest. You have to recruit candidates, keep candidates in. You're about to see a whole bunch of retirements come up, right? That's a bad sign, meaning a bunch of Republicans saying, "I'm retiring." That means you have to find a new candidate. So the speaker is in charge of a lot of that stuff at the NRCC. And I mean, I know it's, if you're battling blood cancer, man, that's tough to do that, right? I think that puts us at a significant disadvantage. Plus, he's also way too moderate for my liking. Jim Jordan would have been a big upgrade, right? Um, but Steve Scalise backed Liz Cheney in his, in the primary in Wyoming. He's really bad on Ukraine, in my opinion. Again, nice person, terrible what he's been through, but I, I think this would be a downgrade if it becomes. So why, why, why didn't Jim get it though? Well, it's not, we don't know yet. It's still. I know, but but there was one time we, because he's too conservative. Yeah. There's 150 people in the House Republican Caucus that are incredibly moderate, very, very moderate. You, you get like a, a bad impression because the people that go on television, Anna Paulina Luna, you know, Matt Gaetz, they actually don't make up a majority of the Republican conference. You know, a majority of the Republican conference never goes on TV. They kind of keep their head down. They like the title Congressman, but they're very moderate. They're transactional Republican regime politicians, right? They kind of just vote for what, how they're told. They do what leadership tells them. I don't even know. I mean, I know a lot about politics. I don't know like a hundred of these guys, right? They're kind of just in the background, but they, they are, they are very, very mad that McCarthy is no longer speaker. And so they're going to hold the.

line and they're like, "We're getting a more moderate speaker going to be in charge." And this is them exacting revenge on Biggs and Rosen Dale and, you know, Roy and those guys. So, do you think Matt Gaetz could move when he pushed McCarthy out? Well, I, I, first of all, I, I asked him at the time, I said, "What is the plan?" And he said, "Anyone is better than Kevin McCarthy." I said, "That's not true." Okay? I don't, I don't agree with that. But I said, "Matt, you'll either be proven right or be proven wrong." Right? If you get a more conservative speaker, someone that has, I think Jim Jordan, by the way, would be amazing at raising the money. He's, you know, former, uh, you know, really college-level wrestler, wrestling coach. Like he has great physical stamina. Like he could really go toe-to-toe with Jeff on the fundraising tour and the travel circuit. Like all that stuff that sometimes can really wear you down. To Kevin McCarthy's credit, he took that very seriously. He traveled like a crazy person just to be able to, you know, handle everything. But, um, yeah, I mean, like Jordan should be the guy. Uh, and it's not over yet, but it doesn't look very good for him. Would, would you nominate Jordan? I didn't even know about Steve Scalise having blood cancer as we speak. How is that even a consideration? Melanoma or something? Can you fact-check me on that? Melanoma, skin cancer. But if it's blood cancer, it's probably leukemia, probably what it is. Either, but either way, he's dealing with cancer right now. Not exactly, uh, advantageous. I wasn't that far off. Myeloma. I'm sorry. Myeloma. Okay. Yeah. Myeloma. So, if you, because it sounds like you've had some conversations with Matt Gaetz and you had some agreements and disagreements, who would you want to see nominated? Because they're now, they're talking about nominating Trump, which would literally flip crazy Nancy on her, uh, flip her grave, so to speak. Theo would kill him. I, I, I think Jim Jordan would be great. I mean, I think Jim Jordan's super conservative. I've known Jim for years. Um, he would do a terrific job, honestly. We need to just get the speaker position filled. We have such a slim majority. Every day we're just burning time. We have a continuing resolution coming up. That's exactly what Democrats want. By no, I mean, they're, they're loving this, right? We have a wide-open border. We have not done anything to rein in Jack Smith. We've done nothing to materially actually find out where the Ukraine money is going. The administrative state is out of control. Like the top priorities for me, none of them are getting done if we don't have a speaker, right? And if Steve Scalise makes some commitments and he proves me wrong, great. I mean, I'm not going to like, you know, really oppose him at this point. We have such a slim majority at this point. Are we going to keep the House in January 2025? And honestly, the odds are not good. The odds are not good for Republicans to keep the House. But to be clear, Charlie, it sounds like you would have been cool with McCarthy staying speaker. Yeah. Versus Scalise? Yeah. And I got, I mean, it's well-known. I, I get along with Kevin. I have for years. I mean, he has, I think he made a miscalculation on the continuing resolution. I wish he would have held the line. Shutting down the government, I think would have been appropriate, to be perfectly honest, because it's actually not a shutdown, it's more like a pause. We are a debtor nation. $2 trillion deficit. That's your annual burn. Unsustainable, in my opinion. It should have been the Republican's big last stand. And instead, you know, he did a punt. And he punted 45 days. He lost the speakership as a result of it. We, we are un, we are destroying the dollar, right? Our deficit spending is shredding the dollar. We don't have a border. These are, these, we're in a crisis. And I wish the Republicans would have held the line a lot better with that last CR.

How much of this with Matt Gaetz, because we were just with him, uh, was personal? A lot. 90%, 95%. So this wasn't even about the country. Like, at the end of the day, Matt Gaetz and I'm not saying that it's not about America. This is a personal issue with him. I'm speculating, but it seemed to be hyper-personal. Wow. Yeah. It seemed kind of like how De Niro and Trump have a thing. Gaetz and McCarthy got a thing, didn't they? Had a few, had something in 2021. Something happened between them. And there's something about an ethics investigation too that McCarthy didn't drop. And, yeah, then allegedly Gaetz was accusing McCarthy of hiring people to go after him online. So this thing was just bubbling up, right? Of course, before McCarthy became the speaker of the House, there was a 15-vote process, which was awfully humiliating for McCarthy, right? Of course. And there was literally almost a physical altercation between Gaetz and another congressman. And this was a personal issue. And I'm friends with Matt, and I told Matt, I said, "Matt, you're the member of Congress. You know, you're betting big, man. You're going all in." Texas Hold'em. This could end up being really good. If we get Scalise, it's at best a wash. That we now lost a couple weeks and we got humiliated and it looks like a Chinese fire drill. And at the worst, we get somebody who isn't as conservative, who does not even have, in my personal opinion, the time. Let's just forget like the physical part. If you're fighting cancer, man, the time alone is going to distract you from what is necessary for us to beat the Democrats. And I say that from a compassionate standpoint. I want him to go beat cancer, right? Yeah. I, it's just, he's going to have, he's going to have a lot on his plate. I mean, if you're dealing with cancer, I feel, I mean, respect. Deal with that. That automatic disqualifier. Oh my God. Can you imagine like the stress and everything that adds on to it? Can't. Why, why is he the leading candidate? Who, who? Because McCarthy's running a shadow campaign to get him because he, he's very close to McCarthy. So think about it. McCarthy steps down, he still wants the power. He wants the power behind the throne, right? He, he was the one that recruited 200, you know, 180 of the candidates that make up the majority, right? He's the one that busted his tail. And McCarthy wants to exact revenge on those guys that got rid of him. And so McCarthy's not going away. What do you think would want to do to get Matt Gaetz? Um, on a personal level, or even on a political level, what would McCarthy want to see happen to Gaetz? I mean, I, I don't, I can't speak for Kevin in that way. But it's going to get really nasty. I mean, there, he's already running, McCarthy's pack is already running some of the nastiest ads I've ever seen against those eight people. What's McCarthy's relationship with Trump today? Um, they've always gotten along. But, uh, I think Kevin has disappointed Trump. Didn't bail him out. Trump could have bailed him out. Yeah. So Trump could have either come to DC or tweeted and said, "Guys, stop it. Kevin's our guy. Don't do this." Trump could have saved Kevin's speakership. Last question on this for me. So I think Kevin's a little sour. Does all this House of Representatives saga help or hurt the Democrats? Helps the Democrats. You're kidding me. It's not even close. By the way. So like, why would you do this then to help the other party? The argument was, and I understand this argument, I really do, that we have zero legislative wins while the country is legitimately financially collapsing. That is not an exaggeration. We are destroying the dollar. We're borrowing money we don't have. And Republicans were like, "You know what? When are we going to fight? We got screwed on the debt ceiling. We got screwed on the budget. And we got screwed on continuing resolution." I kind of get that sentiment. I really do. That would have been probably strategically smarter if you don't have a four-seat majority, okay? That's one of the, the smallest majorities in American history. And again, I keep on going, going after this, you have to, you have to always look at and what I'm doing is increasing or decreasing the chances that we keep the House in the next session. That's not the most important thing, but it's important. And it's significantly decreased. Hakeem Jeffries' donations have gone up. Democrats are recruiting really exciting, good candidates. Republican enthusiasm is down in the House of Representatives. So we got a serious problem. Yeah. So it's either this is a Hail Mary pass. Either you score some crazy touchdown in the end, uh, Hail Mary style, or you get, or you turn the ball over. The other team gets it. At the very, to get offsetting penalties. You're like, "Well, that was a waste of time." Right? I mean, and so that, that's the best-case scenario. Here's your college game day that you're all about. I could use football analogies all day long, right? But no, I mean, what I will say though is that House Republicans need to start fulfilling the mandate that their voters gave them. And the three big priorities is you have to get this Ukraine funding under control. I think you have to cut it completely and get rid of it. You have to get Jack Smith and the DOJ some sort of check and balance. And the border, right? And if I had to add a fourth, which is, can you please cut spending, guys? MH. $2 trillion deficit is unsustainable. We are a debtor nation. We are destroying our purchasing power. It is harder than ever to buy a home. Inflation is a silent tax and a silent killer for working people. It disincentivizes saving. And inflation is a direct correlate to how much money Washington DC spends. By the way, let's talk about something important. If you can pull the, uh, it's which is probably the most important issue taking place in the country today. Uh, uh, uh, you can pull it up. Deeply concerning, specifically for those who live in the state of California. Skittles. Yeah. If you can pull this up. We have, we have to bring attention to this catastrophic. So California becomes the first state. What? To ban Skittles? No, this has got to be a Babylon Bee article. And 12,000. No, additional, by the way. Okay. What is puberty? That's puberty. Instagram, you know, it's for real. Watch who retweets it at the top. Go see who retweets it at the top. Mario Lopez. Say, by the bill. Oh my God. They're. Okay, so crime is, is this real? For, we're going to look this up. We're going to look this up. Crime is through the roof. Rob, go back to the tweet. I don't believe it. Go back to. Crime is through the roof. Worst drug epidemic ever. Homelessness at an all-time high in California. Let's focus on Skittles. Okay. By the way, they responded back to it. And there's a story that says, um, uh, you've seen this? Or no? No, no. I haven't seen it. Yeah, they respond back to it. And they said, "New just signed the California Skittles ban into law." USA Today. "New California law won't ban Skittles, but could change food additives." USA Today response. So it is a back and forth. It's so funny though. Yeah. Governor Newsom on Saturday signed. It's almost believable. Yeah. No, but by the way, no, no, hang on one second, because it is true though. This is the part that the fact that you're thinking this is a Babylon Bee story. Removing four. Makes me want to share this even more. Share the USA Today's story that I just texted you that at least this one's going to give it. So, and then if you go a little lower, I'll just read it for him to see it. Second paragraph. I just texted it to you. The article reads, "A bill that became known as the Skittles ban is now California law." This is USA Today. Okay, so check this out. A bill that became known. Okay, zoom out a little bit more. No, a little bit more. There you go. And then zoom in. "A bill that became known." Can you show what the source is? USA Today. "A bill that became known as the Skittles ban is now California law." Here's what it does. Governor Newsom on Saturday signed a law, misleadingly known as the Skittles ban, which will prohibit the manufacture and sale of four chemicals used in as many as 12,000 food products. Okay, go a little lower. Uh, on the second paragraph. Governor Newsom on Saturday signed a misleading law known as the Skittles ban. It's removing brominated vegetable oil, potassium bromate, and a couple other things, Red Dye 3. The four chemicals are used in as many as 12,000 products across the country, despite, uh, never having been approved for consumption by the Food and Drug Administration, according to an environmental working group. Advocates have long expressed concerns about the potential health problems that can be caused by eating these products. Can you imagine if people leave California for banning Skittles, but not for forcing COVID vaccines? Can you imagine? Can you imagine? Obviously, when I'm saying COVID vaccine force, they almost did. And, and Mario Lopez, I want to finish up his tweet. Can you go back to the tweet on what he said? Go up there. Yeah. Zoom out. Uh, uh, there you go. Zoom in. At the top. "Crime is through the roof. Worst epidemic ever. Homelessness at an all-time high. But let's focus on Skittles." I'm shocked that he, by the way, he's in with that. He is like in the, in, right? He's in the in-crowd. For him to go against, you know who else has been saying stuff like this? He has, Mark Wahlberg has. Mark Wahlberg's turning. Yeah. He's. Mark Wahlberg has. He moved to Nevada. He's there. He's fully there. By the way, he's knocking on the door. Chris Pratt has been there for a while. Okay. So more and more people are starting to kind of say, "Is a little..." Let me, I'm not good with this year, right? And Mario Lopez, who we've had at, uh, same event you were at in Vegas. Wahlberg, we know about. Chris Pratt, we know about. But Mario Lopez, I mean, that he's the guy that you go in any hotel ever, he's the guy that doing the whole movie. I think Mario was on Candace Owens like a year and a half ago, something like that, right? And he got in trouble for something. He does the, uh, the movie, the movie guide stuff. Yeah, exactly. But I challenge you guys out there to find me one Gen Z Hollywood actor. Find me one Gen Z, so that's 25 and under, who's center-right. Find me one that you can name. I, I can't think of one. I mean, you, you put it in the comments. But if you're not in that Hollywood elite woke left crowd mob, some may call it, you're canceled. So, you know, when you have an established career like Mark Wahlberg or even Chris Pratt, and you sort of, you're, you're sort of. Mark Wahlberg is an OG though. I'm going to. No, is it? I'm going to. What was this? Don't call her a come. Which one? I've heard. Call Good Vibrations. Good Vibrations. Let's get vibrations. He was a Calvin Klein model. I mean, the movie he played, Fear. Oh my God. He banging his gang. Oh, that was a great. Way before Wolf of Wall Street. Did he get it from him? He did. Basketball. What's crazy is the most ironic thing about these Skittles thing. If you, if California was a candy, it would be Skittles, 1,000%. With the LGBT and W and the DEI, ESG, and everything that's going on. Dare you. I love Skittles. Okay. Starburst. Skittles. You're talking my language. Po. California banning Skittles. I was actually thinking about going back to California, moving there. But this, the thing about this, though, this is going to be great for, you know who. When De Santis debates him. Follows De Santis. I look right up and he goes like this as he leaves. He should go, "You like some Skittles? Taste the rainbow." Like I would screw with him every moment. I'd be like, "Taste the." Somebody would. "How dare you for eliminating the rainbow in the state of California? Shame on you." Guess what? It's the rainbow. Yeah. Just troll him the whole time. The whole time. By the way, your thoughts on this debate with De Santis and Newsom? Is it, is it like, I've never heard of this happening before. One's running for president, one's not. What do you think? Well, first, I mean, Newsom is slick. He, he's, he's got a talent. And I'm just, I'm just gonna be honest. Like, game knows game, right? And that guy can play. Um, he says he fell for it. He fell for it. Yeah. Remember when he said that about? Yeah. And I mean, he goes on conservative media and he can play. I don't think he'd survive the PBD podcast. But he, he, he preys on conservative media. That he has an open invitation. Yes. And I mean, same on my show. Anytime Gavin Newsom can come on the show. So, as from, from a presidential standpoint, I mean, Trump's gonna be the nominee. So it's kind of just a waste of time. I do think it's actually healthy to have a conversation though. And this is why I wish De Santis would just right now see where he's at, drop out, become a great governor, and reassert that he's been a great governor and continue to be. I'll say nothing but positive things. But the, the national conversation is, there are really two Americas being built right now. And California is a hellhole. It's a dystopian nightmare. If you have money, you can maybe escape it. But it is a hellhole on the streets, drugs, homelessness, vagrancy, mutilation of children, quality of standards of education, businesses, taxes. And Florida is a completely different environment. And Patrick, I was in California last week, just from an energy standpoint, like a vibe and an attitude. The people in California are just heavy and dark. And just, it's not the spirit I come. That's usually New York's thing, guys. No, but I mean, it, it's not, it's not the California energy that I'm used to. I come here in Florida, and boy, things are happening, man. It has a buzz to it. Florida would love to have you, by the way. Well, thank you. I need to save Arizona, just for the record. You want me to save Arizona? If Arizona is not saved, there's no Republic. So you want, you want Charlie Kirk in Arizona? Charlie, you, you're sort of echoing what PBD has been saying for weeks, if not months, that after railing on, uh, Newsom for years, called him "U-Haul employee of the year." We've saw that, you know, U-Haul to go to California is like $1,000 to get the hell out of California. It's like $5,000. But he's slick. He's skilled. What is it about him that people in California recognize? "Oh, I hate that guy." But goes on conservative media and he dominates. Well, yeah, first of all, part of it is, you, the right word, dominant. Part of this is just he's so cocky that he just kind of intimidates the host and talks over him. And he just tries to act more alpha. That's why he would not do well with Patrick B. David, right? That dog would not hunt around here, right? Um, and because he, he would avoid that. Tucker Carlson would obliterate him. Would you agree, Patrick? It would, it would be sport, right? Yeah, it would be a spectacle. And it, it would be just out of control. So, but you're saying Hannity is a lightweight? No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying Hannity is used to old cable television and not new age internet live time back and forth type debate style. It's not. Sean's a friend. And I'm not accusing Sean. Saying Sean is treating Gavin Newsom like a 1990s cable guest where you kind of both state your point and you say, "Oh, this nice having you. Thanks, you know, Mr. Colmes." Right? Hannity and Colmes. Gavin Newsom plays the new age viral TikTok debate. I'm gonna one-up you. I'm gonna, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna get that 30-second boom boom, put it on social. It's like, "Oh, he owned him." Yeah, I kind of in that world, right? That's right. You're definitely one of those. Got, yeah. Of course. You got a few billion views of that. Yeah, we have a couple billion, exactly. We, we helped create that genre. Shapiro, Walsh, Candace, and I, we are kind of some of the pioneers there. So I see Newsom, I'm like, either he gets it intuitively, spends a lot of time on social, or he has a team that's kind of coached him. So it's not a knock on Hannity, but, um, yeah, Ron De Santis better treat this kind of in that format. This is not a policy debate, okay? He's gonna lie. Right. So one of the rules of Marxists is show, don't tell. Okay? So here's what, here's how De Santis should handle. Because I'm going to be cheering for De Santis, right? G. De Santis will say, "You know, uh, Governor Newsom, someone's leaving your state every eight minutes." And Gavin Newsom like, "No, no, that's not true. In fact, we have all these great." And so he has to literally, Gavin Newsom has to New York Times see Gavin Newsom, someone's leaving every eight minutes. You have to show fact-check, fact-check, real, real time. You know, you know the thing that Trump did when he's like, "Marxists hate it when you show." Telling is not enough because it's a lie. Yeah, because like when Trump brought the four women that accused Clinton of sexual assault, it was the most mind-blowing thing. All of a sudden, to a presidential debate, Trump turned into Jerry Springer Show. The most insane thing I've ever seen. But he showed the world. If you remember what Clinton looked like in that debate, Hillary was freaked out. Hillary was like, "This is really bad." What Trump said, "Let's talk about, uh, bombing Russia." Yeah, exactly. And it was just like, "Wait, all of a sudden it was over." And so for, I actually like the idea that the debate is happening. The presidential implications are silly, but the debate of, "You can have a different country based on how states operate" is very interesting. Florida has unbelievable outcomes, right? In education. And B, you guys, I don't have to, you know, your audience knows it too. Keep it a secret here though, Charlie. Nobody knew about Florida and Miami until, uh, you guys start showing up. But I will say, if, if, if Newsom ties and or wins that debate, it would be a tragedy. It'd be because the facts are so not on his side. Do you agree, Patrick? It's like defending the Soviet Union. But give me the argument. What does he have to win? What does he have to gain? What does De Santis have to gain? Well, he's, he's down 50 points with Trump. It's not a bad idea. He's trying to get some sort of visibility, right? He's trying to get some sort of credibility. So, um, I, I'm not, I'm not overly impressed right now with De Santis's ability to play ball with this kind of game, right? Where De Santis is like, "Come do the speech, do great policy, move on." Now Trump versus Newsom, woo. Like Trump would just, you know, that Trump is built in that kind. He kind of created that kind of, you know, "You'd be in jail," and you know, "Boom," and "Obama him," and this and that. And like the one-liners. He's just like, "Oh, he's the." That you want to talk about gangster, Pat? You talked earlier. Trump, Trump bringing the rape victims to that. That is gangster, by the way. Him, when Hillary goes, "It's awfully good that, you know, Trump isn't in charge of the laws in this country." And he goes, "Yeah, because you'd be in jail." That is a gangster fighter. And by the way, if I was Newsom, to go further with the Skittles thing, if I was De Santis, I would. 'Cause you know he sits there and they're going to be face to face. I would fill up those high-heel cowboy boots with Skittles at the end. And honestly, if I was De Santis, I would get nasty first. And I, I would, I would go low. This guy's a bad dude. You say, you know what, Gavin, what, where have you ever been in charge where it's not hell? San Francisco is a hellhole. You never take responsibility for anything. If you believe in San Francisco so much, will you walk at 3:00 AM from Fisherman's Wharf to the Transamerica Building without a bodyguard? Yes or no? Gavin Newsom? No. Show me. Show me that you would walk from Fisherman's Wharf. And Gavin would. No, no. You wouldn't. Better question. Would you let your son? Would you let your son at 3:00 AM in San Francisco? Guess what? 30 years ago, the answer was, "Of course." One of the safest cities on the planet. Now they get mugged. You get kidnapped, right? You get defecated by some crazy person. That's how you have to play that game with Gavin. Aggression. Put him on defense because he plays ball, man. Like, I, I, I'm just being honest. Gamer. I, I, I respect his game. Respect. He, and I'll be honest, like the fact he showed up at the Republican debate like that, dude has stones. Like, I'm not gonna lie, right? Like, I mean, you go to the Reagan Library. Like anyone can come up and film a question. I was like, "Man, that's like, respect." Is this the De Santis Hail Mary? To use that term again? The De Santis is not going to be the nominee. The Hail Mary. He's down 56 nothing with like 30 seconds left on the clock. Sure. It's like all, like moral points at this point. How is he still funded at this point? I think he just brought in another $20 million, whatever the number was. I mean, are people still moving into Iowa? Million consultants can be very persuasive. And also, a lot of these donors, they don't live in the grassroots like I do. Like, I give hundreds of speeches a year, okay? I can read an audience really well. Who are you voting for? Trump. I'm like, "Whoa." And then you see it in the polls and you confirm it. And it's across the board. The polls don't matter, according to De Santis. Charlie? Well, okay. I mean, then show me one when you're within 10 points, right? I mean, and not just polls. How about audience size? Like social media chatter? Show me one metric. How about this? Small dollar donations. Trump raised $30 million to De Santis raised like five or six. You can fact-check me on it, right? In his last quarter. It's the small dollar donor. Equal support. Bernie Sanders actually showed us this, right? Everyone's like, "Oh, Bernie isn't real." And I was like, "Man, the dude has like a million donors. He's going to give Hillary a run for her money." And he was right, right? If you have people that give you 10 bucks, that's like basically a thousand votes, right? And it was, it was right. Like Bernie Sanders played against him. So no, but Gavin, here's the thing with Gavin. Gavin is a cocky SOB. He is a cocky, got cocky dude. He's the Trump of the left, minus the money. And the, the, he has, he is, he's the guy that walks around with his nose up in the air. And one of these days, he's gonna get crossed over by someone who knows the game better than him, right? That he's gonna get punched in the mouth, metaphorically, by a PBD or a Tucker or a Walsh or a Shapiro or someone like me. Because there's only so much ball you can play. And Icarus is going to fly too close to the sun. One could argue that that Gavin Newsom is the definition of fake news. He's almost like the emperor has no clothes on. He's running around with this, uh, holier-than-thou methodology, ideology. I'll show up anywhere. Yes. But under the cloak, it's homelessness, crime, nakedness. The only, I mean, this is the truth. And I, I've actually thought deeply about this. The only reason California is not like legitimately a third-world country is because of the weather at this point. And I, there is nothing left except the weather. I, I talked to people in California like, "Okay, so you got like vagrancy everywhere. You got highest taxes, regulation, California Franchise Tax Board. The schools are a mess." Why? "Well, Charlie, have you ever walked at 67 degrees in the morning in Thousand Oaks, California?" So crazy. But you're so right. And it's awfully persuasive. I got to be honest. Like, if you walk up to those, you know what I'm talking about, that dew mist and kind of the marine layer that sets in, and it's kind of like that Aspen feel. You're like, "Yeah, maybe I don't care. Maybe I don't care if the homeless guy." But then you have the guy that's like, "Yeah, I would love to do that, but gas costs $7 a gallon and I can't even make it on the other side." What I'm saying though is it would be so much worse, right? It's like it's almost California is a test case of how bad can you make a civilization with like pleasant mornings and evenings. For me, they crossed the line with Skittles. It's over. Once you get that, it's done, done. I'm not doing this. Video is not an exaggeration. It's just it looks like that. Looks like a different country. No, is that Hollywood? Pet? Where is that? That that's in LA. That that video that video is from a couple years ago, but it hasn't. Was it? It hasn't gotten better. I genuinely left, right? Like that, that right there, under, under the, uh, bridges in Burbank, like Laurel Canyon. That's ex. It was. That's your old house right there. That's my old apartment right there. That that tent is actually my apartment. But yeah, it's, uh, it's getting really, really bad. But you nailed it, bro. People are like, "Dude, the traffic, everything is like, yeah, but the weather's nice." There's no humidity. Surfing this morning, and I'm going skiing in the afternoon. Yeah, there's no humidity. Let's go. By the way, you know, I think about Trump. I don't know if he drives a car or not. When's the last time he drove? The last car I saw him the other day for about an hour and a half. We didn't talk about that. But, you know, he talks openly about how he misses driving. He used to love driving. Yeah. PBD, I figured it out. This is my kind of guy. Donald Trump doesn't drive everywhere. That's my guy. Yeah. No, no, no. That's right. Exactly. No, I didn't make it up. Donald Trump misses driving. So that's right. That's so freaking funny. I can see it though. But by the way, I can see him driving. And if he's by himself, you know what song I see him playing? Thug Life, for sure. By himself. There's a video of him, Melania, and Barron in the car, and they were playing like Taylor Swift or something. He's playing. Hit up. What was it? I don't see Taylor Swift. No, no. It's Trump driving in the car with Melania and Barron, and he's playing. It's, it's something. I don't know. I'm saying when he's by himself, it's like, "All I need in this life." That's the video. "Me and Melania." That's DJT driving on the Brooklyn Bridge. This is when. What's he listening to? Years ago, like 10 years ago. They're listening to. Not a good look for Trump to be just jamming out Taylor Swift. But by the way, you know what's weird? No, he's not controlling the. Tell you it doesn't. Is his son or he is? Oh, Barron is sitting to the right. Oh, that's Barron. Barron's like 7'9". That's huge. Future center of the Dallas Mavericks under Cuban. Let's go to the next story here before we wrap up. Rob, can you put up the story with this is Vinnie's story. One of Vinnie's favorite porn stars, uh, Mia Khalifa. If you want to kind of a such a good girl. Do you want to do you want to talk about what's going on here? You want me to you want me to break down what happened with her? A such a great actress. I mean, I wouldn't call her a porn star anymore, but anyway. Um, the level of hypocrisy in the story is what I want you to get at. Ahead. So a former porn star, Mia Khalifa, she's basically praised Hamas. If you guys have seen for what they've done over the. That tweet is unbelievable. Yeah. Do, can someone please tell the freedom fighters in Palestine to flip their phones and film horizontally? And Pat, you said this at the beginning of the podcast, and something like this, a crisis of this magnitude, people really show who they are when the grass is cut. System. The snakes. The snakes will show. So she said that, which is basically saying, "Hey, can I get a better look? I want a HD wide version of children and people getting murdered and burned to death." But you guys don't want to know the most ironic part. The ironic part about the whole situation, those same freedom fighters that she is praising would chop her head off if she went to Palestine or she went anywhere in the Muslim world and just told Charlie, you nailed it. She was having sex with the on top of the Palestinian and the hijab on. Let me explain something. What on the flag, right? She, she was having sex with the dude on the flag and she had a hijab on. I'm telling you, Mia. All right, there. Read the story. "ISIS threat to kill porn star Mia Khalifa for having sex in a hijab." Let me explain. And ISIS is Hamas. It's similar methodology, ideology. I, I would dare, I dare you to go to any one of these Muslim nations and talk. Don't even talk. Just show your face. And they're going to, they're going to, you're going to disappear, and they're going to behead you. So for her to be praising what they're doing to innocent people is absolutely disgusting. And bro, it's only a matter of time with someone like this. Like, by the way, she's on their radar. She's not gonna like, there. And especially with what this, this Friday the 13th, this guy's calling for a Jihad. She should be hiding more than anybody. Well, the cognitive dissonance and the moral authority from a three-time divorced, literal porn star that has sex on the Palestinian flag to, oh my God, to equivocate what's happening right there. Like, this is only in America. Well, and where a left-feminist, Palestinian sympathizer, Hamas sympathizer can give some equivocation. How do you break this down? Well, I mean, I said this earlier. I mean, she's not alone though. I mean, this, the reaction to what happened in Israel has showed us a disturbing window into how widespread, uh, Jew hatred and evil is. It's been, it's been a massive, massive wakeup call for some people. I mean, at college students, elites that are cheering it on, that are saying it's terrific what happened. Um, and the butchery, the savagery. And I mean, it's not hard to understand how the Holocaust happened. And Charlie, can that's you a question, bro? Like, the, the, the squad, because we saw reports, somebody from, I think I could, I, I'm guessing it was Fox, they were going up to, what's her name? Uh, not Ilhan Omar. Who's the other one? Rashida. And they're just asking her, Pat, and if it's okay, we'll show it. They're just asking her, "Are you cool with children getting beheaded?" I get that you're from Palestine, and I understand that you have the flag. Question. She was born in America. She, she's born in America. But that's. And some of them were beheaded right in front of their parents. And then their parents were killed after the parents had to watch their babies beheaded. So that's what, uh, and then she has a Palestinian flag outside of her office. So Hillary's asking her about, "Do you condone what's happening? Watch terrorists have cut off babies' heads and burned children alive. Do you support Israel's right to defend themselves against morality?" Her handler's in front. "You can't comment about Hamas terrorists chopping off baby heads. Do you condone what Hamas has done? Chopping off babies' heads, burning children alive, raping women in the street." Look at that. She doesn't give a. Of course she doesn't care. Why? Why would she? She doesn't care. She follows her. Told her to the elevator. I would have gone in with her. Being chopped off. Look, look, look. What is he going to do? Like, who is this guy? Get out of here, bro. Congressman, why do you have a Palestinian flag outside your office if you do not condone what Hamas terrorists have done to Israel? Yeah, because think about this. Uh, because Adam, two things can exist. Two things can exist in the same time, right, guys? You can, you can denounce the mur, what Hamas is doing to the innocent lives, and at the same time still say, "My heart goes out to the Palestinians and the children that are going to be affected." Yes. I mean, it's just, it's a typical political answer. Terrible what happened. Please leave me alone. You know, let, let's, tension simmer. But she's silent. You know why? Her constituency supports this. Yep. And we don't have time to get into that, Patrick. But it has been a big disappointment how many American Muslims have have been vocal and support of this. It's been a massive, massive disappointment. One thing to consider is look, as a Jew, you know, I empathize with the people of Gaza. I do. Like, if you're dealing in this sort of quasi open-air prison style system with on lockdown, I get it. Why would you be angry? But you also have to look in the mirror. You've elected Hamas to be over 50% of your government. That is ISIS. That is Hezbollah. Yes. That is Al-Qaeda. That's who you've elected. Now, for the other half that did not elect them, I empathize with you. But here's the next question. You talked about the allies or the peace treaties that Israel has, whether it's Jordan, whether it's Egypt. What they're working on. They have to be very careful. The country next to Gaza is what? Egypt. Egypt. So let's focus on Egypt for a second. They don't want them. Okay? Why won't Egypt open up their borders? The Sinai Peninsula is right there. Massive desert. Why won't they open their borders to help their fellow brother, brother Muslim Brotherhood? Why won't they do that? Because they know once they, once they open those borders, it's not just innocent civilians coming through. It is Hamas militants, Islamic terrorists. Everyone in the region knows the truth that will be showing up to Egypt. So everyone wants to place blame on Israel, and I get it. But let's talk about your friends, Egypt, right there, being like, "No, no, nothing to see here." No. The, why not Egypt? What Netanyahu should do, if we had an American president, which we don't, we have a traitor in the oval office, is the next flight should be to the Middle East and say, "Bibi, we give you $4 billion a year. Don't invade yet. You can do your rockets or whatever." And you bring in the King Abdullah from Jordan, you bring in whoever's. Is Ali still running Egypt? I can't keep track. You bring in anyone who's sympathetic. And you have a joint press conference or you first have a meeting with Bibi and say, "Here's what we're going to do. We're going to go in and kill Hamas." Okay? And you let the Arab leaders talk. Deep down, the Arab leaders actually hate Hamas. Like they really do. They know it's aligned with Iran. You got to get these guys in a room. You got to have some sort of an agreement. Some sort of, "Here's the problem." Again, overreaction. It's just going to take one of these actors. All it takes is for Egypt to say, "Our, our neutrality is gone." Wow, man. That that would be a disaster. It would be a disaster for the world. But that's where American leadership can come in, right? Trump would do that immediately. He did the Abraham Accords. Joe Biden has everyone at war. Donald Trump had peace with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the UAE. He had flights going from the UAE to Israel. Still does. Because what Donald Trump did. And Joe Biden has babies being butchered in Israel. Yep. When America's not at least diplomatically leading, you got serious, huge problem. Gang, again, as usual, it's always great to have the great Charlie Kirk here with us. Thank you, guys. Charlie, keep doing what you're doing. Your voice is very important. Subscribe to the podcast, everybody. Charlie, this is your third time being here, or fourth time? I think this is the third time. Last time before you turned 30. Happy birthday this weekend. Happy birthday. A quick shout out. Uh, if you haven't seen on Valuement, PBD, uh, just did a video called "Israel versus Palestine Explained." You did it yesterday. It's almost at two million views right now, which is awesome. I think you did a great job. I think you were fair, but you also, you know, held the feet to the fire to who actually are the terrorists here. Yes. So respect to you for doing that. You've gotten a lot of praise for doing that. Respect, PBD. And by the way, do we have another podcast later this afternoon? We may have another one. Gotcha. And I'm doing a Sast this evening, late night, after hours, party time. And, uh, next Wednesday, I know it's your birthday, October 18th, I'll be at the Tampa Improv. I'm opening for Vinnie. I'm the opener. Gang, have a great one. We'll do this again. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. You.