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[music] The truth does not always shout. [music] Shadows that cross slowly, clocks that know how to lie. A gesture out of [music] time and everything begins to beat. Nothing is what it seems. Every detail [music] counts more. When something doesn't fit, it's time to look back. A forgotten footprint, a casual clue [music] where others pass by, here the investigation begins. Follow the clue, [music] don't look back. Amidst twists and doubts, the truth will emerge. [music] Follow the clue. Listen to the pulse. [music] When something doesn't add up, it's criminal instinct. [music] Steps that sound softly, glances that want to flee. Stories poorly [music] told that ask to be told again. Silence also speaks if you know [music] how to listen. Lies stumble. The truth knows how to wait. Nothing is simple, nothing is [music] chance. Every mistake leaves a trace. Every crime its signal. Follow the clue. [music] Don't look back. Amidst shadows and lights, the truth will emerge. Follow the clue. [music] Listen to the pulse. If something smells like a lie, it's criminal instinct. [music] It's not morbid, it's not fiction. It's looking directly [music] at what others hide today. Case open. Criminal [music] instinct of the [music] open. [music] Criminal instinct. [music] Hello, good early morning. How are you? How are you all here in Spain? It's 4:51 in the morning, so happy nights. Uh, if you are sleeping, if you are here with me, thank you very much to those who are here. I suppose there will be people sleeping. At home, the dogs, the cats, the people are sleeping. Everything is sleeping here because it's really late. But we want to watch Isabel's interview live. I didn't want to miss it. And uh, well, there are already things, uh, there are already things, there are already things and and it's uh and it's great, right, that there are these new things because there has been uh there has already been in the Trosa case, the grandmother's interview, they have already put things on Telemundo that we are going to see right now. Well, it's already uploaded here. Here we have the news on Telemundo. It's good, because we are waiting for the other thing too and we are seeing this, uh, we are waiting for the interview and we are going to see this that has already come out, okay? I'll tell you. They have titled it this way, between condemnation and grief. Exclusive interview with Derek Rosa's family. You're going to freak out because at the end of what I'm going to read you, there's a bombshell, okay? Uh, it's written by Gloria Ordazo, okay? And she says, "Wait, I don't want to miss the other thing, huh?" Okay, she says, "In Isabel Acosta's apartment, grief has two faces. On one wall hangs a large portrait of her grandson, Rosa dressed in white on a on uh sorry, uh, I was reading. Hello, him, hello Carmen. Yes, yes, it's 4:54 in the morning here, okay? A kiss, darling. Hello, Carpet. How are you? Well, those of you who are here, I think we're going to be the first to talk about this, right? Well, the apartment of Isabel Acosta, grief has two faces. On one wall hangs an enlarged portrait of her grandson, Derek Rosa, dressed in white against a background that simulates the sky. A few steps away, on a small table, rest the ashes of her daughter Irina García next to white flowers and an enlarged photograph. "They are two different loves," Isabel said in an exclusive interview with Telemundo 51. "I love her and I raised him. They are different loves." These are the first statements from the minor's maternal grandmother after pleading guilty. Then she repeats, two different loves. The case shocked South Florida in October 2023. The 13-year-old called 911 and confessed to stabbing his mother with a kitchen knife. Two years later, shortly before the trial began, he pleaded guilty and accepted a plea deal with the prosecution. 25 years in prison and 20 years of probation. He is currently serving his sentence at the SUACEN Correctional Institution, a Florida state prison. Despite the admission of guilt, his maternal grandmother maintains unconditional support. "Until the last day of my life, I will support him," she states. She assures that she has not asked him why the crime happened and that she does not wish to do so for now. "Listen, the bombshell is coming, huh? The bombshell is coming." When questioned if she believes justice was served, she avoids a categorical answer. She neither affirms nor denies her grandson's innocence. Silence, on more than one occasion, takes the place of words. The young man's father, José Rosa, attended every court hearing. He says he never saw any sign that anticipated a tragedy. "I can't understand how something like this happened," he expresses. Regarding the guilty plea, he assures that he respects the decision made during the judicial process. It was revealed that Derek Rosa had been diagnosed with autism and attention deficit. His family describes his mother-son relationship as normal with rules and discipline, but without any indication, according to their version, that such a tragedy could occur. While Derek Rosa begins his life within the prison system, his grandmother and father face their own process: reconciling love, loss, and a truth they believe is not yet complete. Isabel also talks about another absence, the granddaughter she hasn't been able to see, and responds to the statements made by her ex-son-in-law and grandson's father in the last hearing. Furthermore, Derek Rosa's lawyer, Daileet Rielo, speaks for the first time in a formal interview and makes strong statements. My goodness, instincts. You're going to freak out. What we're going to see now. Let's hope they show it. Hmm. Let's hope they show it. Okay, we can continue because the interview isn't here yet. Now I'm going to show you the interview they have here. In the same room, in Isabel Acosta's modest apartment, two absences, two memories coexist. "I gave birth to her, she's my daughter, but him, I raised him. They are two different loves." On one wall, an enlarged and modified portrait of her grandson Derek Rosa in white clothes against a background that simulates the sky. The original image was taken in court. "Do you still think your grandson Derek is an angel?" "Of course I still think so. I will always say he is my angel from heaven." That's how his grandmother sees him. "It's not new, it's always been like this. I've told him, 'You are my angel from heaven.' And that's why I say it. I don't plan it or anything. It just comes out." "Describe the love you feel for your grandson." "It transcends barriers. I can't tell you I love one more than the other. That boy is my life." A few steps away rest the ashes of Irina García, her daughter, next to a glass of water, white flowers, and an enlarged photograph of her. "I live with her day by day, I tell her I love her very much, that I always keep her in mind. I talk to her, I sit there, look, on that little stool, and talk to her. I can't get rid of that piece. That's my life too. My daughter, imagine, these things happened, what can I do? But I can't divide myself like that." Derek Rosa was 13 years old when he called 911 and said he had murdered his mother, Irina. That night he confessed he did it with a kitchen knife. At 15, a few days before the trial began, he pleaded guilty. He accepted a plea deal with the prosecution, 25 years in prison and 20 years of probation. He began serving his sentence in a Florida state prison. "I sleep and I wake up thinking about him, what he might be doing. It's constant. I think my strength is what gives him strength too, and he gives me strength." "Despite the fact that he has already confessed that he did indeed kill her, you still love him with all your soul." Isabel speaks from an open wound. "Let them criticize me, I don't care. You have to feel what I feel. He is my life. He is my grandson as if he were my son. And I can't, I can't avoid it, I can't avoid it. And let whoever it is criticize me, that one day possibly someone finds themselves in my position and will know what it feels like when you truly love a grandson." She says she doesn't know where she gets the strength to endure a reality she never imagined: loving the grandson who killed her daughter. "Do you feel that you love your grandson Derek more than you loved your daughter Irina?" "It's not that I loved her, it's that I love her. I love her. She's my daughter, my youngest daughter, my spoiled daughter, you know. But the boy, he gets you when you're older. I don't know, I don't know, I can't even explain to you what this is like." A love that has not been broken, not even after the confession of guilt. "There's a saying that there's no worse blind person than the one who doesn't want to see. Do you think that's happening to you?" "No, that's not happening to me." "When you self-analyze, how do you describe those feelings you have?" "The scale always tips towards the boy, not towards my daughter. I just don't understand anything. I see him as the boy." "Were you surprised that he decided to plead guilty?" "That was part of an agreement they made between the lawyers and I respect that and I respect that decision. I respect it for him." "What did he tell you? And what did you tell him?" "Well, he told me he had made a decision, that he wanted to communicate that decision to us, and I told him that whatever he decided was fine with me." "What do you want to tell your grandson?" "That I love him with all the strength of my soul and that he behaves well wherever he is, that I will always support him and his family too, and all the people are supporting him." "Have you asked him why he did it?" "No, I'm not going to ask that. You don't want to know. I don't want to know. Maybe someday, but not for now." Isabel doesn't seek explanations. "I don't know if it's compassion, if it's pity, I can't tell you what it is, because this is something that overwhelms me and I am a human being, but I can't, I can't, I'm in this. No, no, no, no, what I feel is more, it's stronger than anything." "You forgive him." "I don't know the reasons, I don't know them. I won't say that word." She refuses to talk about forgiveness. She says there are feelings that cannot be named. "25 years in jail, 20 years of probation. How do you take that? Do you think it's a just sentence?" "I don't even know what to tell you, honestly. I can't answer that." "Some people were asking for his freedom, and others were asking for justice for your daughter Irina. Do you think justice has been served for your daughter?" "I can't answer that. Honestly, I can't. I can't. I can't contradict myself on one thing and the other. I can't say clearly. I can't." Regarding whether justice was served or not, Isabel doesn't want to choose between her murdered daughter and her imprisoned grandson. "And I will always be there for him. That's the only thing I can tell you." "Do you believe your grandson is innocent, that he didn't commit the crime?" "They left it there." Well, then, nothing, we're going to wait for it now live. Well, now, uh, we're going to go live uh for it. That's what they've put, uh, what they've put, right? So, let's see, let's see the complete interview. Uh, they've put there that Rielo has already given an interview. Uh, let's see, I'm expectant, the father has also spoken and well, they've been telling us several things there on the Telemundo page. Incredible, right? Well, now we are live uh with Telemundo 51. Uh, let's see. Uh, I think it's been quite edited. Let's see what we're going to see next. And well, with Rielo, I mean, it's incredible, incredible if we see Rielo in an interview. Hello, Andrea, good evening. How are you? How are you, Ángeles? How are you? It sounds like Mrs. Isabel wants to shout that he is innocent, but something prevents her from saying it to the world for now. Effectively, effectively. Elen Isa here, good early morning, greetings and blessings. Thank you, Eleni. Good early morning from Spain at 5 in the morning. Everyone is sleeping here, uh, people, little dogs, little cats, everyone is sleeping, it's quite late, but we are here at the forefront with the Crosa case, of course. We will never leave the boy alone or the little grandmother. She speaks to the people who continue to support us. Isabel, we support you. We make songs about the boy, we do so many things for you to see them, right? How beautiful, how beautiful that everyone is at these hours, huh? Well, it's earlier there, but I know you also go to bed earlier in the United States, it's not like the Spaniards who wake us up in the early morning, who go to bed in the early morning, we have the habit of going to bed very late, right? Especially me, but there are many people, huh? You look at the windows and there are still people, huh? Well, at these hours, almost all the lights are off, but but well, effectively, Andrea, they can't shout. She can't shout innocence. Let's see, they've left it there for us. For those who have joined, uh, the news is that Rielo has done an interview, I don't know if we're going to see it right after, uh, on the Telemundo page. For those who haven't seen it at the beginning, it says Colombia at 11. Oh, look there, we're going. On the other hand, the family conflict that continues to mark Derek Rosa's case. For the first time since the minor pleaded guilty to murdering his mother, his maternal grandmother and father speak about a tragedy that has left them with many unanswered questions. Gloria Ordaz spoke with them. In Isabel Acosta's house, there are no easy answers, right? Faith and a love that defies all logic. "Until the last day of my life, I will support him." On the night of the crime, Isabel visited her daughter Irina's house. She took this photo with her grandson Derek Rosa and her newborn granddaughter. Hours later, she returned to receive the news that would shatter her life. "Oh, my God." "Did Derek ever express anything to you, that he was unhappy, that he had a problem at home with his mother?" "No, thank you. The usual when he was punished, she took away his tablet, she took away his phone, and then he would call me and I would step in." "What did you do?" "I would quickly call my son so he could call her because she only obeyed her brother." "Her savior, his hero is his uncle." Her grandson is serving a 25-year sentence. He accepted a plea deal with the prosecution instead of facing a first-degree murder trial for the death of his mother, Irina. "Did he ask you for forgiveness when he sees you cry? When he sees you suffer?" "No, he has never told me that. Not even on the phone, and I don't want him to." "Why?" "I don't want him to. I don't want to. I don't want him to." "He doesn't need to. It's not necessary for me. I will continue to love him." "Do you believe your grandson is innocent? That he didn't commit the crime?" "I can't say that." She doesn't affirm his innocence. Nor does she deny it. "How was Irina with him?" "Well, he was a happy child, he was always happy. He never mistreated himself, and he didn't give any reason. He was a good boy." During the judicial process, it was revealed that Derek has autism and attention deficit. "The family knew that Derek had autism and had other conditions. He was diagnosed with something like he couldn't focus. She was strong with him. Well, imagine, she was the mother. She had to have her strength over him, otherwise he would get out of hand." "Did he have any problems at home with his mother?" "When there were situations, he would immediately send for his dad and his dad would immediately come." "Situations like, what?" "For example, school, he didn't do his homework, and in that, yes, it's true that she was very strict with him." His father, José Rosa, attended every one of his son's hearings. When asked if he ever noticed signs that such a tragedy could occur, he says, "I never saw it." "Did you feel that he loved his mother?" "Yes, definitely." Both his grandmother and his father are preparing for that first prison visit. "What will you say to your son?" His father can barely answer. "As a father, you never think you're going to lose a son so young for so long." "How do you see his guilty plea?" "I really don't know all the details, but guilty or innocent, something strange happened." "Do you believe your son is innocent, or are you really convinced that your son committed this crime?" "I don't know why he reached this point. I don't know if he feels happy in his mind, he must be saying, 'I am calm.'" "Will you ask your son when the time comes, why he did it, when he is ready to talk about something he has in his mind, to be there to have that conversation?" A family clinging to the idea that the complete truth has not yet come to light. Tomorrow, in the third part of this exclusive interview, Isabel Acosta talks about her other loss, the granddaughter she hasn't been able to see, and responds to what her ex-son-in-law and grandson's father said in court. Continue with more. Who is Cuba's future being discussed with? He carries the Castro surname, but he's not the person many thought. Also, the head of the US Southern Command. I told you they were going to show something today and tomorrow they were going to show something else. It's incredible. I told you, I told you. This will lead to more, then the second part will come, then the third, and then as he said, there's also Rielo's thing, so that's it. So, I'm going to play it if you want, and I'll read you what Rielo is going to give tomorrow, because G is like that. You know, for this little bit, we've been here until 5:15 in the morning. People without sleep, they have no consideration, really. I mean, how long did the interview last? I mean, it wasn't anything, it wasn't anything. It was nothing. Uh, it was very short. Uh, I suppose they didn't do such a short interview, uh, I think. Uh, of course, they left it for Ah, Ángeles says she doesn't understand why the family went to this channel. Well, because it's the only one there, right? This or Univision, and I don't know which of the two is worse. No, I don't know. You tell me. I don't know, I don't know who is worse, if it's one or the other, but it's just, well, I'm going to play this again because because, well, before there were fewer of us because there were few, and now if you want, I'll play it again. Uh, well, here it is, between uh, between condemnation and grief, exclusive interview with Derek Rosa's family. I'm waiting in case they put something else, which I don't think so. No, nothing for now. Okay, well, let's continue with our thing. Between condemnation and grief, exclusive interview with Derek Rosa's family, "Until the last day of my life, I will support him." Says the grandmother of the convicted murderer for killing his mother in Isabel Costa's apartment. Grief has two faces, etc., as we said before. The case shocked South Florida in October 2023. Derek, then 13 years old. Wait, I have the second screen open and I'm listening. One second now. Uh, he called 911 and confessed to stabbing his mother with a kitchen knife. Two years later, shortly after the trial, he pleaded guilty and accepted the prosecution's plea deal, 25 years in prison and 20 years of probation. You already know that, well, this is incredible, huh? What, what, what sensationalism is there? Hello, Sara, how are you? How are you? Uh, he is currently serving his sentence at the Swan Correctional Institution, a Florida state prison. Despite the admission of guilt, his grandmother maintains unconditional support. "Until the last moment of my life, I will support him." She assures that she has not asked him why the crime happened and why she does not wish to do so now because she knows perfectly well that he did not do it. When questioned if she believes justice was served, she avoids a categorical answer. She neither affirms nor denies her grandson's innocence. Silence, on more than one occasion, takes the place of words. The young man's father, José Rosa, attended every court hearing. He says he never saw any sign that anticipated a tragedy. In Derek, right? And he with the dramas wasn't there either, but that's where everything was forged, right? In the dramas, uh, regarding the guilty plea, he assures that he respects the decision made during the judicial process. It was revealed that he had been diagnosed with autism and attention deficit. Have you seen how the grandmother told him those things? We're going to play the interview again. His family describes the mother-son relationship as normal with rules and discipline, but without any indication, according to their version, that such a tragedy could occur. Gloria Orgaz wrote this, okay? While Derek begins his life within the prison system, his grandmother and father will face their own process, that of reconciling love, loss, and a truth they believe is not yet complete. Isabel also talks about another absence, the granddaughter she hasn't been able to see, which we will see tomorrow, and responds to the statements made by her ex-son-in-law, whom we haven't seen either, we will see him in the fourth or fifth part, and grandson's father in the last hearing. Furthermore, Derek Rosa's lawyer, Delise Rielo, speaks for the first time in a formal interview and makes strong statements. For God's sake, I want to see that woman there, seeing it. Please, please, please, please. I want to see it. It will be in a week because, given how it's going, it's a bit, a bit like that, right? What do you think? Well, let's watch it again because we're going to watch it again and we're going to answer, huh? Let's watch for a second. Wait, forgive me, what happened before is that my internet went out again. I don't understand anything. This is the last time. Of course, of course. Ah, Sara says, "Hello, Sara. Derek's grandmother doesn't want to give details of what she and all of us know about Derek's absolute innocence. I think she wants to mislead the enemy because sooner or later the culprits will fall." I totally agree, huh, that the culprits will fall. Let's see, one second, because I don't know why this isn't working. Let's see, it's not here. Here it is. Let's watch again. Okay, since I didn't record it, we'll watch it from the beginning. From the beginning. Let's watch it again. Two absences, two memories coexist. "I gave birth to her, she's my daughter, but him, I..." Wait a second, no, because this is the previous one. Wait a second. Here, I think it starts. No, it's just that we put it behind this now. Here, here, one second. That has left them with many unanswered questions. Gloria Ordaz spoke with them. I think so. In Isabel Acosta's house, there are no easy answers. Can you hear it well, right? Faith and a love that defies all logic. I'm here and live. On the night of the crime. Isabel visited her daughter Irina's house. She took this photo with her grandson Derek Rosa and her newborn granddaughter. Hours later, she returned to receive the news that would shatter her life. "Oh, my God." Well, remember that interview with the little grandmother where I said, but how can this be in Spain, this taking a statement like this in a patrol car is unthinkable? Uh, I, well, I mean, not even, not even for that, it was a betrayal by the grandmother who, just as she lied, she lied in the trial, she lied in the Oano trial, remember, these are things we should never forget. "Did Derek ever express anything to you, that he was unhappy, that he had a problem at home with his mother?" "No, thank you." It's probably not with his mother, it would be with the dramas, right? Mr. Dramas. This isn't over, Andrea. No, no, but it's coming. Well, I don't know if you heard what I've been saying. There's going to be an interview with Rielo and she says it's quite strong. Rielo is going to talk and she's going to talk strong. You'll see. Let's see how much they cut, because this interview is super cut and presented as they wanted. "The usual when he was punished, she took away his tablet, she took away his phone, and then he would call me and I would step in." "What did you do?" "I would call..." that she would step in. Uh, the flies are going to take this out of context. I'm going to play it again. Okay, that glove is bad, huh, these people, sorry. Hello, Green. How are you, Green? Welcome. Those people are bad. I wanted to call to say that Derek is the murderer. They have no feelings. Totally, totally agree with you. They are uh manipulators, they manipulate and they will manipulate, and the flies will manipulate this, okay? Uh, what the mother of Irina is saying now. "Oh, my God." "Did Derek ever express anything to you, that he was unhappy, that he had a problem at home with his mother?" "No, thank you." It's probably not with his mother, it would be with the dramas, right? Mr. Dramas. This isn't over, Andrea. No, no, but it's coming. Well, I don't know if you heard what I've been saying. There's going to be an interview with Rielo and she says it's quite strong. Rielo is going to talk and she's going to talk strong. You'll see. Let's see how much they cut, because this interview is super cut and presented as they wanted. "The usual when he was punished, she took away his tablet, she took away his phone, and then he would call me and I would step in." "What did you do?" [laughter] That she took away his tablet, well, like all mothers do, right? If you misbehave, you lose your tablet and you lose everything. But that's not, not at all. And even less so since he's a boy, which is what the grandmother says, he's not an angel. Yes, yes, but there's more tomorrow. There's more tomorrow. "I would quickly call my son so he could call her because she only obeyed her brother." "Her savior." Look, look what a beautiful photo. Sara says, "I agree with you, girls." Yes, yes, Sara, totally, uh, between condemnation and grief, Derek Rosa's family, look at this photo. Look at this beautiful photo where Derek is seen smiling, looking at his father, his father with a face, the grandmother smiling, and the uncle, uh, a united family, even though all these people have wanted to divide this family, they haven't succeeded. There they are. A united family, united, even though they've tried to divide them. Here they are. You see them so united, right? With what faces. Do you think if they thought or knew? They know he didn't do it, and they know perfectly well who did it. They know. "His hero is his uncle." Her grandson is serving a 25-year sentence. He accepted a plea deal with the prosecution instead of facing a first-degree murder trial. Hey, one thing, for the death of his mother, Irina. One thing, one thing I want to tell you. Effectively, effectively, that's why we're showing it, analyze Mrs. Isabel's answers. She can't shout the truth. Exactly. And then I'll tell you something else, uh, we have to analyze, uh, since I've been very busy and haven't been able to do it, that macabre day of the sentencing, right? Where the judge was so comfortable, right? As if saying, "What do you want me to call him, Derek, Mr. Rosa?" Uh, uh, when you've spoken disrespectfully from the beginning, uh, Sara says, "It's a united family." Very much so, Isa, and they are there with the why they are sure of his innocence. Effectively, effectively, in that photograph they are seen, and in that photo and in that video I'm telling you about, uh, since tomorrow I suppose they will show some clips of the interview and such, uh, I would really like to see because I've watched it very slowly and I've watched the entire Derek Rosa sentencing many times, uh, sometimes Rielo's eyes are watery, as if she's going to cry, as if what injustice is being committed. Uh, the prosecution never had evidence, you'll see it in the documentary I'm making. Everything will come out, so the new documentary is being released. I'm releasing it part by part. Uh, you'll see, it's incredible how all the prosecution's lies are revealed. Well, let's continue. "Did he ask you for forgiveness when he sees you cry? When he sees you suffer?" "No, he doesn't have to ask for forgiveness because he hasn't done anything. He hasn't done anything. He has never told me that. Not even on the phone, and I don't want him to." "Why?" "No, I don't want him to. I don't want him to." And probably she would say, "Because he didn't do it." So, he doesn't have to ask me for forgiveness because he didn't do this. But he probably won't be able to. Well, because let's see what Rielo says. I, I'm eager to know what Rielo said. I'm very eager, but wait for them to show it to us in two or three days, huh? "I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to." "He doesn't need to. It's not necessary for me. I will continue to love him." "Do you believe your grandson is innocent? That he didn't commit..." Look, look how. Look at the grandmother looking to the side. She doesn't fix her gaze because it's to say, "Of course my grandson is innocent. My grandson didn't do this. We all know who did it or who ordered it done. We know who the involved parties are. There are at least three people." Uh, and there she said what we put earlier in the old, in the previous live, and she did say the crime. "I can't say that." She doesn't affirm her patience. She can't speak either. She can't speak. She denies it. "How was Irina with him?" "Well, he was a happy child. He was always happy. He never mistreated himself, and he didn't give any reason." Of course, they don't give reasons, and a 13-year-old boy because he's not spoiled, because he hasn't been on the street, because Irina took good care of him, because we know that people who are looked down upon, that those people have a condition. Today I was listening, I don't know who was saying, uh, how autism was like, he's autistic, like a contempt. Let's see, autism is not a disease, it's a condition, we're still at the same point, we're not learning, uh, but a good boy. During the judicial process, it was revealed that Derek has autism and attention deficit. "The family knew that Derek had autism and had other conditions. He was diagnosed with something like he couldn't focus." She has attention deficit, you don't focus, you go from one thing to another, you think about this, and then later you think about something else. Uh, uh, it's a condition that you have to work on every day of your life because you get distracted, you get distracted, you're thinking about one thing, you're saying, "I'm going to do this," you're going to do this, and then you do that. Uh, that's what she's talking about, attention deficit. I don't know if Irina ever told him she had autism, because if she had that condition, which is nothing, it's nothing bad. I mean, let's see, having autism is not a contempt. There are degrees, Derek is at the higher degree, which was formerly called Asperger's, okay? Do you remember, right? How many famous people have had Asperger's? And nothing happens. And there they are. Famous people, people who have invented things, people who have had privileged minds, because that's how it is, they are privileged minds in some ways. [ __ ] is when you have a grade three. That is [ __ ] Why? Well, because you live in a world that is too internal, right? Too internal. "She was strong with him." "Well, imagine, she was the mother. She had to have her strength over him, otherwise he would get out of hand." "Did he have any problems at home with his mother?" "When there were situations, see, they're going to take this out of context because he would get out of hand." They're going to take this out of context and it's not like that. I mean, let's see, a child getting out of hand. I don't know what it means to get out of hand, okay? That child getting out of hand. Uh, it could be taken out of context or it could be the typical thing, like, look how restless he was, this and that, but Derek was restless. Probably because of that attention deficit, if you don't understand that a person has that attention deficit, it can drive you crazy sometimes, right? That you can't understand them, that's something else, okay? But that the boy was a handful, right? Besides, she has said many times that he was an angel, she says, "Yes, he's just like his father." Well, we saw in the interview the father how he was crying and how that man has become. Well, if he was a little thin and such, that man has become skin and bones, what he's suffering. "She would immediately send for her dad and her dad would immediately come." "Situations like, what?" "For example, school, he didn't do his homework, and in that, yes, you see that he didn't do his homework because if he has ADHD, the problem is that he can't concentrate on what he's doing and he doesn't understand what he's doing, and then, well, putting him in those special classes that they probably put him in later because this is detected when he's young. Who knows when Derek was detected, you understand? So, have you seen how everything is taken out of context? "It's true that she was very strict with him." His father, José Rosa, attended every one of the hearings. It's not that she was strict, it's just that, just as boys need support, uh, parents also need to know how to treat people who have ADHD, that attention deficit, uh, of their son. When asked if he ever noticed signs that such a tragedy could occur. "I never saw it." "Did you feel that?" Of course he never saw it. The boy never saw it, and he didn't live with the other one, you know? He didn't know who he was. I suppose he would investigate who he was, huh? Because I like to know who my ex-partner might be with if my children are going to be with him. I don't know if you think the same. I mean, if I have a partner who is going to share life with my child, I want to know what kind of person he is, and even more so since he's a police officer. I mean, I would investigate everything, his background, everything, everything, everything. "Did he love his mother?" "Yes, definitely." Both his grandmother and his father are preparing for that first prison visit. "What will you say to your son?" His father, poor thing, poor thing. "What will you say to your son when unjustly he is in jail, when he is serving a sentence that is not his?" "When an innocent person is part of a broken justice." Justice is broken. He can barely answer. "As a father, you never think you're going to lose a son so young for so long." "You're not going to lose him, José. He's going to get out. He's going to get out, and you're going to put the person who committed the crime in jail. And that day, justice will be justice again, as has happened so many times." "How do you see his guilty plea?" "I really don't know all the details, but guilty or innocent." See how they can't, they can't say anything? How can you not see, José, all the details of the agreement? How can the father not see all the details of the agreement? It's just that he can't say it. It's clear that he can't say it. It's very clear. Uh, something strange happened. "Do you believe?" It's something strange that happened. Effectively, this woman is a block of ice, huh? She's a block of ice. "That your son is innocent, or are you really convinced that your son committed this crime?" "I don't know why he reached this point. I don't know if he feels happy in his mind, he must be saying, 'I am calm.'" "Will you ask your son when the time comes..." Effectively, effectively. I mean, he's calm, man. Well, in court he didn't look calm. Tomorrow we'll see that clip where he hyperventilates when the dramas points his finger at him, huh? Clarisbel says, "Blessings from Cuba, Isa, I'm here as always supporting you and very anxious for the interview with Grandma Isa Derek. He is innocent and everyone knows it." Effectively, but Clarisbel, I don't know if you've heard me, but besides this, that tomorrow they're going to show us the second and third parts or whatever, we've read, uh, if you want to go back, I know since you've been listening to me, that Delise Rielo has done a very strong interview, very strong, uh, we have to see it. Uh, that one too, even if it's 6 in the morning, it doesn't matter. We'll be here at the moment. "Why did he do it?" "When he is ready to talk about something he has in his mind, I will be there to have that conversation." "When he can, Derek will talk. When when he can, Derek will talk when he is ready, when he can talk when he says so-and-so did it. Yes, he will pay for it. Of course, the dramas did it.
He is going to pay. Effectively, he is going to pay. That is very clear. I have no doubt. Derek is totally innocent. Totally innocent. He couldn't have done it. There isn't a single piece of evidence, nothing more than his confession. A manipulated confession. That is very clear. A completely manipulated confession by a person we have never known who it is, who has never come out or anything. I mean, if we had seen so many things in this trial, but they reached this agreement, for some reason this agreement was reached. You all think that Rielo didn't reach this because he wanted to, but because he had no other choice, because the fault for this does not lie with the prosecution. I am not saying that because the prosecution does its job with everything, well, and especially with all the corruption that is there, right? But here, who is to blame? It already has names. It's called Richard Her, a judge who never acted as a judge, he acted more as a prosecutor than a judge. And no one can take that out of my head. A judge must be with justice, on the scale, in the middle of the scale. And in this case, he tipped the scale against Derek Rosa. That's how it is. A family clinging to the idea that the complete truth has not yet come to light. Tomorrow, look, a family. Hello. Hello, Eliseo. How are you? How is it that where did I get the second part? How are you? Where do I get the second part? Eli, come up, come up, now you are live. You are live. You are live. Eli, come up, if you are live, come up. I don't know if you can come up. I can't find it. But which one? The one I read or this one? This one we are seeing now. I'm live, but you can record, you can put it, if you want to come up, I sent you both parts in the stream, the one I read, the one that says Rielo gave me an interview, and this last one which is the conviction. Ah, Eli is live. Okay, okay. Well, I'm going to close here. If you want, if you want, take this. Ah, Eliseo is live. Okay, okay. Uh, click on it, click on me if you want, or click on the live stream and put it on because I don't have it because it was live and then yes, what I can tell you is where I was reading it. Yes, put Telemundo 51 and you'll find what I read, where it says Rielo gave that interview. Uh, live. I did it live. Wait. Oh, wait a minute. Wait, wait, you were calling me. Wait, I'll call you. Godmother, I'm clicking, I'm clicked on his channel. Okay. Yes, yes, no problem, no problem. There it is. It's just that I did it live, but then also if you are here, they can hear you, they can hear you. Greetings to all the little Eliseos [laughter] and to all the little bears. Yours are the little bears. Where did you get the second part? The live one. The live one that they showed live. Where, excuse me? On Telemundo 51 live. Telemundo 51 live. I can't find it. Ah, can you send me the link here through No, it's just that it's already passed, it was live. Ah, it was live. It was live. Yes, yes. What I can tell you is that I can send you what I was reading, yes. But come on, click on it, click on it, no problem, you know, I'm clicked on it, so no problem with me. So, relax, [laughter] you put it on. The only thing that will come out is that I was talking or whatever, but I shut up, I shut up while it was live. And then yes, what I can send you is for you to click on it so you can read it and the little part where it says up on 51. Yes, Eliseos. Yes, yes, yes. [laughter] Well, thank you, thank you. Well, I'm going to close now, it's 6 in the morning here, you know? [laughter] Oh my god. 6 in the morning. Yes. Well, okay. Thank you. Nothing, a kiss, darling. Bye. Kisses. Bye. Shut up. Well, Eliseos. Yes, yes, totally. Uh, well, nothing, I think tomorrow we will see this. In the third part of this exclusive interview, Isabel Acosta talks about her other loss, the granddaughter she hasn't been able to see, and responds to what her ex-son-in-law said in court about her grandson. Continue with more. See? It's over here and you'll see how they did it, but we'll see if she goes to uh, if Rielo goes to talk. I find it impressive and wonderful. I don't know about you. We can't miss that interview either. And and great, great, great. See you in another live stream. Effectively. Well, nothing, it's 6 in the morning, so nothing, good morning from Spain. I love you a lot. Thank you very much for accompanying me. And well, before I leave, I want to play something and especially uh, thanks to the grandmother. What do you think? Let's see what Elizabeth says. Isa, when will Rielo talk? Well, when they show it to us, when they show it to us on uh, Tel5, sorry, Tel5, there's one here called Tel5 Telemundo 51, it has to be here. We're paying attention. Yes, yes, I'll keep telling you in the live stream tomorrow. Anyway, since it's the second part, we'll be here. If we have to stay until 6 in the morning, well, that's what we'll do for the child Derek. And for the child, we'll play, of course, the grandmother. No, no, I played that before. I didn't play this one today. The one that says I promise you, mom. It's very Spanish, by the way. I made a Spanish expression. Uh, let's remove this and play uh, this, which is very Spanish guitar, and I wanted to do a with this song, I wanted to do a From Spain, we love you. Come on, Spanish guitar. I'm here with you. Beautiful song. [music] I love it. I'm not at home, I'm here between walls that [music] don't know how to forgive. The hours fall one after another, and your memory is what [music] makes me breathe. Repeat my name in silence like a poorly told [music] story. But you always looked beyond. You know well what no one wanted to see. [music] I feel your hugs. I feel you so close to me. When the world [music] turns cold, your love teaches me to go on. You are here by my side, even though I can't touch you. Your strength protects me. [music] The shadow never lets me fall. I promise you, mom. Justice [music] will come. Even though today I am the one carrying this extra pain, you know what happened. You keep it [music] in your gaze. You saw who. They took away my light and my peace. [music] You are the most wonderful thing I've ever had in my life, and they took it away from me. But I will make [music] the truth rise and justice speak one day. Do you [music] like Spanish music? Uh, from this cold place, I learned to resist. Because hate [music] doesn't bring back what love wanted to live. I carry a burden that isn't mine. Thank you, Selenio. A punishment [music] I didn't choose, while others remain free. And I [music] learn to go on here. And I feel your hugs, even though you are not [music] in front of me. When the songs play, I know you are still with me. You are light when everything hurts, when it's hard [music] for me to breathe. You are the most wonderful thing [music] I've ever had in my life, and they can't erase that. I promise you, mom. [music] Justice will come. Even though today I am the one carrying this extra pain, [music] you know what happened. You saw it there. That truth lives in your soul and lives in me. You are the most wonderful thing I've ever had in [music] my life, and they took it away from me. But I will make [music] the truth rise and justice speak one day. If one day the world stops and decides to look closely, it will know that a mother never doubts. [music] When she looks with her heart, she didn't take away [music] the silence, she took away the truth, and I [music] will keep carrying it until the end. I promise you, mom. [music] Justice will come, and even though the path hurts today, I will not stop. [music] Truth doesn't need shadow when it is born. Oops, sorry. You are the most [music] wonderful thing I've ever had in my life. And even though you are missing, your strength is still [music] alive. Within my voice, I feel your hugs. [music] When I breathe in peace, I feel you as close to me as when everything was truly going well. If I fall, [music] you support me. If I get lost, I know how to return. Your love doesn't weigh me down. Your [music] love pushes me to believe. Thank you for so much, mom. I continue with the light you left me. [music] Well, I want to tell you that these songs are mine, you who follow me already know that, and you can use them because they have no copyright, okay? And now to that grandmother, I made this song called "I'm Not Going to Be Silent." You are like that. No, I already know how this ends. You can use the music because it's mine. From the first day. When the noise wanted to prevail, I saw my grandson facing the world. Look, I write them myself and they give me goosebumps. I don't need your papers [music] or your judicial theater. Truth doesn't tremble with [music] speeches. Truth stays still [music] and waits for nothing more. And when the drama rises [music] pointing with a finger, when it shouts to cover fear and disguises itself [music] as reason, I get up from the room because I don't listen to lies told with [music] a suit and without a heart. I know who Derek is, I know who he isn't. A court didn't teach me, life taught me and God confirmed it. Let them invent, let them make noise, let them hide behind power. I won't sit [music] by and watch the drama point to someone who isn't. I am Irina's mother, and my pain is not decorative. Don't talk to me about justice if it already comes with a rehearsed script. I've seen too many faces [music] lying without blinking. And I learned that whoever points strongly is because they don't dare to look back. My memory doesn't tremble, my voice doesn't tremble, [music] my soul hurts when the theater accuses someone who wasn't and never will be. Go away, fatso. Don't [music] point anymore. Lies have short legs, and truth doesn't run, but it catches up to you. Lower your finger, [music] lower your voice, because the weight of what you say cannot be borne by even your own shadow. I know who Derek is, I know who he isn't. Time cannot be bought, and truth [music] doesn't ask for forgiveness. Let them sign, let them act, let them play [music] to convince. I get up and leave when the drama decides [music] to point to someone who isn't. [music] My name is Isabel. I don't shout, [music] I don't lie, I don't make mistakes. Well, how beautiful, right? How beautiful, how beautiful songs, huh? I'll say again that I uh, that you can use these songs and uh, if it hurts a lot, they are songs, I hope one day uh, the little grandmother, Derec's family can hear them because I made them with a lot of feeling and a lot of heart. And we're going to go with free, free, derecrosa. And with this one, we'll say goodbye until tomorrow night. I love you very much. See you tomorrow, and we'll listen to "Libre." [music] I didn't ask for war, I asked for help. [music] Good night or early morning. Help, with my voice broken. It wasn't a plan, it was fear. Trembling in my arms, cold lights in my face, questions without [music] mercy, and my head spinning without ground, without truth. At 13 years old, [music] I understand a heart when life breaks in a single room. They look at me as [music] guilty before listening. They treat me like an adult, and I just wanted to breathe. I close my eyes and I [music] make sound again. My name in the air, my world stopped. If I say yes, it ends. If I say yes, it's over, but truth doesn't die, it just gets buried. Justice is broken, [music] but I will overcome. Even if they tie my hands, I will resist. They wanted me voiceless, [music] they wanted me without faith, but I'm still standing. I will overcome. [music] Justice is broken, but I will overcome. If fear is a cell, I will break it. Let the facts speak, let the truth speak, because I don't give up. [music] Be quiet. Two long [music] years in a pit without sky, 22 hours just swallowing ice. Hunger [music] that isn't counted, cold that stays, and time like a blow that never stops. [music] They told me to sign and sleep, sign and forget. But how do you [music] forget what breaks your life? If there are no answers, why does my name weigh so much? If I'm innocent, why does fear hide me? [music] I didn't ask for compassion, I asked for justice. But justice [music] sometimes also goes crazy, and when it breaks, it cuts from the inside. But I keep breathing, I keep beating. Justice is broken, [music] but I will overcome. Even if they tie my hands, I will resist. They wanted me voiceless, [music] they wanted me without faith, but I'm still standing. I [music] will overcome. Justice is broken, but I will overcome. [music] If fear is a cell, I will break it. Let the facts speak, let the truth speak, because I don't give up. [music] They won't silence me. If they take away the sun, I keep my light. If they take away my calm, I endure the cross. I'm not an expediente, [music] I'm not a rumor. I'm a boy inside with my soul in tension. They tried to break me [music] with fear and pressure, but the soul isn't signed, the pain is signed. Justice is broken, but I will overcome. Even if it's late, even if it hurts, [music] I will return. Silence doesn't break me, it makes me understand. Truth has steps, and I [music] will take them. Justice is broken, but I will overcome with my head held high, even if it's late, [music] I will do it. How good it is to be free. [music] Soon we can say it out loud. Well, nothing, see you tomorrow, uh, I love you very much. Tomorrow more and better, and we'll go with the vape and Coca-Cola. Lian, Lilian, thank you very much. Your songs are motivating. Yes, they are all written by me and with the help of my dear James. A very big kiss and see you tomorrow. We're going with the vape and Coca-Cola. See you tomorrow. [music] [music] She sits down. 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