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Why is it [clears throat] that black Americans hate Africans?
I don't know. Like from what I've heard, I guess annoyance that they feel like black Africans come to the country and they're given preferential to treatment because there's this sort of um belief that, you know, we work harder and we do this and we so but therefore we're like the good model minority.
Yeah.
Already we starting off on BS. That's not true at all. Black Americans don't have an issue with Africans because there's this belief that y'all work harder. Y'all say that. We know that's not the case because you don't work harder in your homeland. So, you definitely don't work harder than us. And it's proof because you're over here. If you worked as hard as us, you'll be back in your homeland building it up. So, I think that's right there.
First of all, this is a whole person in the UK. So this is a person who fled their homeland to go to the UK, a western civilization that was built off of the barebones foundation of America and what black Americans, you know, we basically we civilized the country to give them to tell them to operate accordingly to what they was putting out there. So you claim this is equality for all. You claim that we had to fight for these things. So for you to be a woman that's an African or Caribbean that fled to the UK and then to say to speak how you speaking, first of all, you're not in America. You didn't grow up in America. You're not you're not you don't have any ties to America. So you speaking on a country that's a whole another side of the war world. Like why are you even talking about us in the first place? You know what I'm saying?
But the reason why black Americans have an issue with tethers and again I'm going to say this as I just said it before you know uh African doesn't make you a tether. Caribbean doesn't make you a tether. Immigrant doesn't make you a tether. Tether is a behavior. All tethers are immigrants but not all immigrants are tethers. Shout out to uh Brick who said that in the chat. It has nothing to do with you being an immigrant. Has everything to do with the behavior that you operate in. And it's the disrespect. It's the It's the lack of care. It's the lack of knowledge that y'all have. It's the way that y'all appease the white folks. It's the way that y'all get up under in our communities and undermine us and then act like us and then not give us the respect that we deserve and respect our creation, our historical impact on the world. But specifically here in America, you're an outsider. And y'all start to forget that because you just be around us so much and we accept you and we be cool with you. So understand that we don't like you because we think that there's this belief that y'all work harder. We don't think that. Hope y'all know that y'all think that. We don't think that. We know that's not true. That is a myth that y'all lie about and y'all claim that y'all work harder. We work so hard. And the reason why we don't we don't think like that. That's not what we think. We just don't like when y'all are disrespectful. And that's why we're delineating.
So I just want to check that real quick.
Which in turn makes them look bad. And that even though I mean the FDA and the [ __ ] look they say that they can distinguish who's black who's black American and who's
They say that there's like so many different like you know you can easily distinguish and all that which I think is a whole load of cap.
No it's not. You can easily tell when somebody is East African you can easily tell when somebody is West African. You can easily tell when somebody is a black American. So it's not a lot of cap. We can first of all we can look at y'all's hairlines. We can look at your your cheekbones. We can look at the size of your lips. We can look at your face. We can look at your eyes. We can look at sometimes even your body structure sometimes. We can look at a lot of different things. We can look at the way you dress. If I was to go cuz she she say it's cap, right? If I right now was to just up and just go to synagogue, you don't think those people would tell without even and I could be dressing like them too. You don't think those people could tell that I'm not from there? Like genuinely, this is a lie. And I'm going to tell y'all where this comes from. when they like to say that like okay they can't we don't look any different they can't tell I'm going to tell you where that comes from Africans a lot of Africans have a negative thought process on theirelves when it comes to how they look so this is what they believe this is a projection that they perpetuate when we talk about these things if a black America says I look different than an African I look different than a Caribbean um but I wouldn't even say Caribbeans cuz I don't think Caribbeans do this as much as the Africans do and I will say it's harder to distinguish not to say that you can't distinguish but I think it's harder to distinguish. Not like a Dominican, you can easily tell that, but like a Jamaican uh uh sometimes sometimes Haitian, but like a Jamaican and a Trinidadian. It's harder to tell when it comes to the Caribbean because they had an ethnogenesis as well, just not as much as we did um as far as the nativeness, but they they did have an ethnogenesis to an extent. So, it's a little harder to tell, but it doesn't mean that we can't tell. But the reason why Africans specifically have that buying and that proc that thought process of like, oh, we all ly this this cap. We don't first of all using cap which is black using black American vernacular to try to explain something. So they the same want to say we don't got no culture. She didn't say that but I just wanted to call that out. But the reason why they feel like that is because they don't like the way they look. Let me explain it again. When a black American says I don't look like you. You're West African. You're East African. You're Central African. You're South African. I'm a black American and we look different. What they hear in their head? Oh, you're saying that you look better than me. No, I did not say that. I said that we look different. We have a different phenotype. We don't have the same structure in our faces and the way that we look. Our hairlines look different, the way we dress, the way we talk. But specifically just in the look of like biology, gen our genes, there is a difference. They turn that into okay, you're saying you're look, you look better than me. It's a projection because they think that we they think that they don't look better. That's the truth. They think they don't look better. So, because we live in America and we have the media apparatus that kind of pushes us and because of us, not that they push us, but we are we are the thing to push. You know, you got to be something to push to get pushed. So, we are the reason why we get pushed. But, I'm saying they think that we think that we look better, and that's not necessarily the case. I say all the time, people don't like what I say, and I don't care. or you can unsubscribe and dislike the video and leave. I could care less. Black American women and East African women are the two most attractive women on the planet. To me, I think both of those ethnic groups of women are number one and number two. Black American and East African to me, right? I can easily make the distinction between who's a black American woman and who's a East African woman. It's very easy to tell. It's not hard to tell. Does that mean that I think one is ugly and one is one is the top of the top? No. That means that you can have two groups that are very highly attractive, but they look completely different from each other. I can tell the difference between a Japanese person and a Chinese person. I can tell the difference between a Korean. Koreans have more of a smooth, fuller face. It's kind of like, not to be disrespectful, but it's kind of like a spoon. Not to say they look like a spoon, but they have more of a like a fuller face and it's kind of roundish and curvy. Japanese people, they have more of a like a like higher cheekbones and a more like distinct structure in their chin where it's a little bit more like like like I don't know like a like a like a pointier chin I should say. Chinese people faces is kind of like mushed in a little bit. So you can tell the difference between even though they're all they have similarities but you know that they all you if you are around enough and you see see enough stuff you can tell that they look different. Same thing with like Eastern like sometimes Europeans. You can look at a Russian and tell that they're different from an from a from from a white American like an Anglo. You can look you can see east Eastern Europeans look different than Western Europeans. It's just it just is what it is. So when you try to say that there is no difference, you're being first of all, you you just must be m miseducated because Africa is is a continent and it's a continent of like what seven I don't know 7,000 or maybe 5,000 different tribes and and different languages and different like the they're so different. Africa is the most diverse place on the planet when it comes to like history and the way people look and different things and the weather environments to North Africa to all the way down to South Africa. People look different. So for you to sit and say like there's no difference in cap, you're being disingenuous because you don't like the way you look and you project that onto us when we say we look different and you have to be delusional to not think that because we have an ethnogenesis. We're not the same race. We have different things flowing in our blood.
[clears throat] Just to be honest, a lot of black Americans are muts. We are just is what it is. We had an ethnogenesis here. We are some people you have that native. Some people have a little bit of African in them. Some people have some European in them. People, most of us are mut. We have a we we're different. So for you to think as a pure-blooded African that, yeah, I look the same as these people over here who have been mixed in with a bunch of different other groups of people and we all look the same. You're an idiot, ma'am. Respectfully, you're very misinformed and you're delusional to believe that we just all look the same. We don't look the same and that is okay.
What are you talking about? Let's keep going.
Maybe some truths to it. Like at the end of the day, we know how white supremacy works, right? And it does absolutely get off on causing division. That's that.
So, it's white supremacy to say that we look better. Well, we look different and y'all think we look better. Okay. It's white supremacy because you think we look better and all we say is we look different. I don't think I'm look I look better because I'm a black American. I think I look different because I'm a black American. That doesn't mean I look better. That doesn't mean you look worse. African people are beautiful. Black American people are beautiful. It's not a but we look different. But again, you're you're you're delusional.
So
How it's always been and it's just unfortunate that people are actually buying into it. But they're mad at the wrong people. I just feel like the energy is completely misdirected. And like even if those differences are there because I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt and they say that there's some element of truth to that, who is responsible for that?
We need more honesty about the misinformation that's been put to towards both of us. Because when we've had this discussion multiple times, it's not often we get black American honesty about the negative stereotypes they have. I say it, we say it, they're like, "No, we were open arms and welcoming." There was definitely negative stereotypes of immigrant blacks
Perpetuated by black Americans. So you can say that you're welcoming, but were you? And similarly, what was projected into America, I mean into Africa and the Caribbean about black Americans? Just be really honest about the propaganda that happened and then we can get to honest dialogue.
Wait, so black Americans are not welcoming based on propaganda that's pushed by who? Black American don't black America doesn't run the media apparatus and we have not historically ran that. So are black Americans the one making these videos at making these uh infomercials at 4 in the morning with a big African baby with a huge stomach and a bunch of flies on his face eating rice and ground beef. Is that that that black Americans are doing that all five cents a day can feed a hundred African kids? Black Americans are pushing that perspective. What do you mean? Black Americans are the people who have historically been the main group of people numbers-wise pushing pan-Africanism. We've been this the main people fighting for civil rights for all people, but specifically at least is what we thought in the 1950s and60s thinking that you people would come over here and collectively get up under us and work together to go against it. But that wasn't the case. So what do you mean we're not welcoming? Y'all haven't we if we're not welcoming and y'all are welcoming, then why can't I go to your homeland and get ease of access to get stuff? You can come to our countries and you can get around us and get in our communities and claim our ethnic group and be around us and use our verbal forms of communication and eat our foods and dress like us and talk like us, get in a rap music and sing and dance like us and and and make music like us. You can become actors in America and play black American actors. Daniel Kalúa. No, no disrespect to Daniel Kalua because I actually does I do think he's a good actor, but he's not a black American, but he played uh he he's played black Americans in our uh our our movies displaying us. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? You people have come over here and been able to benefit off of us. We're not welcoming. Are you crazy? We can't go to your homeland and mass and get no access to stuff. What are you talking about? So that's just a lie. You talking about the media? The media. We don't control the media. We're not the ones pushing that. The media is bad on us. The media is is the one that pushes negativity on us. So, what are you talking about? This is the lack of First of all, you're you're from the UK. YOU NEVER D probably even been in America before. You're from the UK, lady. Let me go back cuz I want you to see my face. I want I want to see this look like you from the UK. What are you talking about? You from the damn UK. You fled to the country and then went to the UK. talking about black Americans ain't been welcome. You ain't stepped foot on US soil more than likely and you damn sure ain't step foot on in a black American neighborhood. We not welcome it. If I walk around Africa right now, if I get off the airport and fly to an African airport, they're going to be begging me for money, trying to scam me. They're likely going to probably places where you go to Ghana. We just watched a video last week with the dude in Ghana. He got arrested and they was bribing him for money and he didn't even do anything. But they wanted American dollars. Show me where that's going to happen in America. Show me an America where black Americans are going to come beg you, try to scam you, and try to arrest you to go try to get some money out of you. Show me where that's going to happen in black America. Tell me. I'll wait. It's not going to happen nowhere because we don't have that in us. We don't operate that way. We don't have a culture of scamming people. Nigeria and India, even though India ain't Africa, but I'm saying Nigeria and India are the two scam places are the two number one scam places on earth and East Africa. Somalia to be specific. Who do they be the main ones trying to scam? Americans. They don't care if you're a black American. They're going to scam you. You going to be looking stupid. So what are you talking about? You can't even go to Minneapolis and get welcome. You can go to any black American city in in America right now. You can go to any black American city and be an outsider, be an African Caribbean, and and and be get respect and get love. There's going to be some people that may not like you, but that's anywhere. But you're going to get respect and get love from the most people that you come across. If you're a black American, go to Minneapolis and St. Paul. They going to have an attitude with you looking at you crazy. And they ain't they in our damn country. They in our areas. You go to Minneapolis and St. Paul, they going to be looking at you crazy cuz it's a bunch of East Africans out there operating in degeneracy and being disrespectful. What are you talking about? Chris Rebel, what's up? Let's keep going.
Americans, just be really honest about the propaganda that happened and then we can get to honest dialogue.
Mhm. I want to ask you a question because she started off by saying that black Americans um they hate Africans. Um do y'all think that's true? And let me start here with uh Jeff.
There's some truth to it. Uh I do think there's a little bit of hatred on both sides. Um a lot of it actually what the the last lady said in the video I actually agree with. Most most of it is actually related to propaganda. It was it was intentional propaganda. probably a divide and conquer tactic in my opinion where if you're only being shown the worst aspects of what's happening in a particular community. Every single community has crime. Every single community has depravity has has ratchet stuff and hood stuff and ghetto stuff going on. It's our particular community where that's shown as a representation of all of us.
Um and the same could be somewhat said about Africans as well. Like if somebody who's actually been to Africa, they see both. If you'll see both extremes, you'll see legitimate luxury, you'll also see legitimate poverty. Um, but if the perception that everybody is living in huts and is poor over there, and over here it's just crime written and it's nothing but baby mama uh issues, that's the perception that both groups are being shown. So then when they actually come in, they're coming in with the mentality based off the propaganda that's been shown to them.
Let me tell you where he's wrong at. Hold on. Wait, let me say more.
It takes a while. And I've even seen it. And African friends of mine that I grew up with and went to school with and are friends with now, they told me that their parents told them based off of the things that they were seeing online and on social media and you know, whatever movies or documentaries were being shown, their perception was and they said many of their parents back home in Africa was telling them when you get over there,
Do not deal with black Americans.
You work with everybody else. They have said it out loud. That doesn't mean all Africans felt that way and many may perhaps don't, but that was a very lived real thing. And the model minority thing, again, there's some truth to it. For individuals who've worked in certain professions, if you've been in certain roles, you will see how that foundational black American is often not treated, talked to, and spoken to the same way as a black immigrant is from another uh space and place. They are treated as two tiers or two different two different types of black people. They do. And people say, "Well, how can they tell?" They can tell because of your accent. They could tell because of your name, just because potentially how you even potentially dress. That is real. So when Africans specifically come over here
And they forget that the propaganda is real or they don't acknowledge it and they project only the specific small minority of black people that are um reflecting these things in the culture and then treat the black people that the black people who have moved and done things in such a way for them to even be in a position to get here as if they're better than us. That's where a lot of that clashing comes from. Now, is she right that there's some black Americans who have negative stereotypes about black people from abroad? Absolutely. I've been to Haiti. I've been to Africa. And I've I've seen it all. And I went to Haiti. And when I went there on a mission trip, this was post the earthquake.
There were people that were there that thought I was Haitian and started talking to me in Creole and I had to correct them real quick. So, they were very welcoming and opening. And there were also ones because I was with a lot of white people with these missionaries. They were also like, "Why are y'all here? Y'all need to leave."
Mhm. Both those things was a real reality for me. I don't take just a negative impression.
And I think that's the challenge. You don't take the accept. You don't take the minority of people who treat you poorly and say this is a representation of all of them
Cuz that's the same exact thing that white people or white supremacists or white nationalist tends to do to us.
I don't want to say I don't.
All right. Damn. Let me get my perspective in. This is going and babbling and babbling. All right. Now look, let me tell you where where this wrong at. Hold on. Let me make sure I I align this up correctly. All right, let me tell you where he wrong at. First of all, he said that when black Americans and Africans like when we get get to each other, it's a it's like we have we already are he what he's saying is there's a propaganda that's being pushed in the media, first of all, black Americans see the med we see all types of media. So you lied and you said that when you only see one type of thing. Black Americans don't only see one type of media. Yes, most of us have seen the media like I said earlier with the little black African starving African child walking around barefoot, dirt on his face, flies on his face, eating rice and whatever, right? Yes, we've seen that. But we understand that that's not the majority of people in Africa. And it's not like all over Africa. in certain parts of Africa where they are very poor. We understand that. We're not dumb. But see, we actually have access to the media more than they do because we have things like iPhones and access to Wi-Fi and we have electricity almost everywhere in this country. And that's not me like being funny. I'm not trying to throw a shot. I'm genuinely I'm genuinely bringing this point up to say that we have way more access to things. So, we know that there are cities in Africa where they have skyscrapers and places where you can just do normal everyday stuff. It wouldn't look no different than if you was in America unless you kind of went out of the city a little bit. For the in the city, they have regular cities and towns and neighborhoods with nice homes. And we understand that they don't have access to the media like that because everybody doesn't have just just like I said, just ease of access to having online to be able to see stuff. That's number one. Number two is he said, "Well, when we get around each other," and he he did like something like this to where he was trying to say that like, "Yeah, we we equally go over there the same way, they equally come over here." No, that's not true at all. We don't equally go over there. They come over here and mass black Americans, if they do go to Africa, nine times out of 10, they're going to visit and come right back home. Very rarely do black Americans actually go to Africa and then move there and stay over there. So, and they're usually black Americans who have wealth, they have money. So, they go over there and they maybe buy some properties over there and they live in some upper lavish area and it's because they can they basically they can just they already a part of like the 1% um financial wise cuz it's just easy. Not easy, but it's a lot cheaper to live over there. But, so no, we don't we're not going over to each other's places like that. Africans in mass come over to America. Black Americans in mass are not going over to Africa. So if anybody needs to understand and be respectful, it needs to be them because they're coming over to our house. So you need to understand that whoever that dude was, let me go back to him. I like to I like their face to be on there while I'm talking. Yeah. Whoever this whoever this is, you need to make sure that you understand that there's a [ __ ] distinction between both of us going over to each other house and you coming over to my house and you stand at my house. Big difference. We not going over there. Most black Americans don't go to Africa in math. We don't go to Africa and mass and no damn sure we don't stay over there. So get that right. Next thing I I want to I want to say and Fei, shout out to Fei. I love when Fei come on my live because she always speaking facts. Femi said it perfectly and I was going to say it, but she said it perfectly. How do you divide and conquer people that were never together? That's like a random woman walking around and being like, they trying to break us up and I don't know you. You ain't never gave me no. You ain't I don't know you. I don't know you. How you divide and conquer some people that ain't never been together? When was we together? We're two different ethnic groups living in a two parts of the world. We don't speak the same language. We don't dress the same. We don't talk the same. We don't eat the same foods. We don't go to the same places. We don't listen to the same music. We don't have the We don't have the same historical background. We're not the same. We don't have the same leanings. We don't even have the same blood running through our veins. So, how do you divide and conquer two people that were never together? And it's funny because this is this Panaffrican talk. He's probably one of them Panaffricans. I think we all just got to come together and we got to just come back together. When, this is a question to all you Panaffricanists and specifically people like him. When y'all say stuff like that, shout out to Feimi again. When were we all together? Explain it. When was there a time first, let's not even mention black Americans. Go, let's just let's just do a random country in Africa. Just do a random country in Africa. Just take a take a put an Africa on your wall on a on a on a photo and take a like a like a dart and throw it on the wall at a random country in Africa. Explain to me if that country if all of those people are together. So you mean to tell me that there's tribal warfare going on in a bunch of countries in Africa right now? Do y'all know how bad it is in Sudan right now? Do y'all know how bad it is in Sudan? Y'all know how bad it is in East Africa right now with the tribal warfare going on in both of those countries. It is terrible right now in those countries. People are going through hell and I and I feel for those people. But you got people like this who sit around in your in your in your big ass house in your nice car, your expensive microphone and your suit and tie, your nice red hat looking all cool and looking all lavish talking about some we all got to come together. You don't know half of what's going on in Africa right now. I don't even know what's half of what's going on in Africa. But for you to sit up on a PLA podcast in America privileged talking about, "Yeah, man. We all just got to come together. We 50 million deep over here in America on another whole side of the planet with our own everything." How the hell you going to tell somebody over here to come together with people on a whole another side of the world who ain't even with with the whole continent cuz you're talking about the continent. You're comparing the continent to a small group of people in a country, 50 million. You comparing a continent of 1.6 billion. You said 1.4. It's actually 1.6 billion. I think it's 1.7. 1.6 almost two billion people, right? You're making the assumption that those two billion people are already together and it's just that they just can't get together with black Americans. And black Americans got to get together with Africans. It ain't even a country in Africa where they're together. So, you can miss me with that. If you want to come together with some black Americans, you need to get it together in Africa first. Because ain't that the homeland? Ain't that the motherland? Ain't that the place where people we all from? So, get it together there first. Make it make sense. That's like me having a bunch of issues in my house with my lady and my kids and we just got a terrible relationship, but then I'm trying to be cool with everybody else in the neighborhood. I'm not even trying to be cool with my family and my children on my own platform, my own house. So, how can I try to make it work with all these other people? I need to get it together at the house first. Make it make sense. What are you talking about? So, you you can miss me with that. You can't divide and conquer people that were never together. That don't make sense, man. Let's keep going. He probably from Africa. That's why he got that hair that that that hat on. Trying to hide that hairline. Let's keep going, though.
That white people or white supremacists or white nationalists tends to do to us. I don't want to say I don't agree with you, but I also think that like I I don't think black Americans neglect what the lack of resources or money or everything. I don't understand why Africans feel like we hate them or we you know what they see as disrespect is you know you know us making fun of them, right? But a part of, you know, African American culture, we make fun of everything. You hear what I'm saying? So like I want to know what and what we
Call me African bootsy scratch. Not fourth grades, [ __ ] I do not scratch my booty anymore, [ __ ] And they've been mad about that for 20 damn years. And now they get on the internet talking about you hair ties. You black America now. So disrespect you. We don't hate you. If we hated you, you would have been beheaded like y'all do in your homeland in the tribal areas. We don't hate you. We going to roast you though. You got that big ass bottle of 40 pack of water on your head walking around without even touching it. It's just sitting on your head. I'm about to roast you. I'm about to get on you. It's wraps. You got your feet out and them big sandals and they ashy as hell and your toes is yellow. I'm about to I'm about to get on you. Sorry. I got to roast you. You don't know how to roast back is the problem. I'm going to roast you. We roast everybody though. Everybody in this chat can roast me right now. I'm not going to take it personally. I'm probably gonna laugh at it. Not probably. I'm going to laugh at it. You know why? Because I'm not gonna take it personally because we as black Americans roast each other. That's just what we do. I roast all y right now. This is what we do. We black Americans. We're going to roast each other. It's out of love. It's out of fun. We don't take it personal personally. They don't understand that though because they don't do that in their culture. So, this is what I mean by the people that come over to a place. You need to understand the culture and the history. Another point I wanted to make too, and I'm I'm glad I just thought about it. He said that the guy in the red hat was talking about how people come over the the Africans, they get told by their parents, hey, do not mess with the uh the black and usually they say the akata. Do not mess with the akata. Do not mess with the if you know that a kata means different things depending on where you from in Africa. But if you're from West Africa and you use an AATA, it's usually a negative term that disparage black Americans about being bastards and uh basically a landless people, a lost group of people or a lost person, right? So that's where that Akata, the jer Yanks, Yankees, things like that, right? They use these terms. A lot of the Caribbeans use the term Yanks and Yankees to describe black Americans, but Americans in general, but black Americans, but like they don't do that in their homeland. So if anybody or No, no, I think I'm missing my point. Yeah. talking about the the the parents, they they get told like not to mess with us. Where in black American culture do we tell our children or have any of y'all ever been told not to mess with the Africans in the Caribbeans? Do we do that? When do we do that? Think about it. You want to talk about the Africans being told not to mess with the black Americans. When are the black Americans told not to mess with the Africans? That's not in our culture. We don't we don't tell our children we haven't historically told our children, "Hey, don't mess with the Africans. They don't they they don't mess with them. Get get away from them. Make sure you separate from them. We don't do that. We don't have a history of doing that. We have always embraced these people. So that's another point that I wanted to make. We don't I I've nobody is no elder has ever told me not to mess with the Africans. We don't tell each other those things because we embrace these people because again historically what we thought is these people were going to come. We thought they were going to come as reinforcement but they did not. They didn't come with as reinforcement. They came as basically a group of assimilation. But not with us assimilation to get closer to whiteness to send money to Western Union back to their little back to all their cousins and friends and all that. So we don't do that. We don't have a history of doing that. But y'all can miss me with the whole you come to me African [ __ ] You said that bush me [ __ ] You do. And even if you don't, okay, roast back. Black Americans don't take roasting personally. We don't take roasting personally. We have never tasted. I mean, some people that take it personally, but in and in in general, black Americans, we never take those things personally because we understand it's a part of their culture, but they don't have that culture in their homeland. I'm going to get on you, my [ __ ] I'm going to tell you that your auntie got a plate on her lip right now. Now, you slept in a tree last night. Your best friend is an iguana. I'm going to roast you. You got on this big blue robe walking around barefoot. I'm about to roast you. I saw you walking out of the room the other day with a raccoon, grabbing it by his tail. I got to roast you. It just is what it is. Roast back, [ __ ] Learn the culture. If you don't like it, then go home. I mean, what you I mean I mean, you can't come to our country and tell us not to be. We going to roast. We roasting everybody. I'm going to roast you. You ever seen an African woman's weave? Oh boy. I got to roast you. The one African that gets us is Godfrey. I I wouldn't say he gets us cuz I've heard Godfrey say some stuff and I'm like what? But I will say Godfrey does understand more than a lot of other Africans do. I don't have nothing against Godfrey. I actually like Godfrey. I I don't think he's super funny, but I think he's kind of funny. But yeah, I mean we going I'm going to roast you, my like I'mma roast you. Your best friend is a monkey [ __ ] I'mma call your toes tree climbers. I'm going to roast you. like you can either roast back or get on somewhere.
And even if we talk about seeing them struggle or whatever, if anything, we are like uh we're more more sympathetic to what they what their issues is where we're being looked at as criminals, killers, thieves.
You know what I'm saying? When have you heard African African-American just say like, "Oh, y'all out there killing each other. Y'all out here selling." you know, I I've I don't I've haven't heard it. You know what I'm saying? So,
I think I don't I think the scales is unbalanced. And I think, you know, when it comes when they come when they come over here with with believing that and already having that mindset, it's just like if you're teaching your kids that subconsciously, that's how they're they're learning. Like, that's like a white person saying like, "Oh, I'm not racist and I got a black friend." But you're still living the life your mother hates when you're with black people. You know, it's the same thing. You can have a black friend or whatever, but you deep down that hate is now being taught to your kids. You got the family. If the family feels that way,
Best believe if it's a conversation that you got to have because it's going to be awkward because you got African-Americans in your crib. I just think it's unbalanced. I don't I don't think that
We are appreciate even our history. It's like oh I ain't go through all that like it's not that crazy. You like what motherucker we did. You know what I'm saying?
[clears throat] Like because of if you guys are here, you know? So I don't know. I I don't agree with it
Fully. I hear what you're saying, but I also feel like it's disingenuous.
It's definitely not even. And I agree with you with that. Another
I think he hiding his hairline. The example that lets you know why it's not even is they'll go out of their way to make it known that their parents will not be accept. So for people who are more familiar with a lot of African tribes and cultures, they'll have real issues if they marry into the wrong tribe or if they marry another African from a different country. Like sometimes that'll be like a Ghanaian marrying somebody that's that's non like that's a real thing. And a lot of them will say they may be accepting of somebody in a different tribe, but they absolutely will say, "But don't bring home a black American woman or don't deal with a black American." But we supposed to come together though. It's all about divide and conquer, but everything that I just said earlier. And then on top of that, they won't even they don't even want to. And I'm not saying they have to actually to just to put it out there for y'all. Me personally, I don't care who people date. I don't care if you get with a white woman. I don't care if you get with a white man. I don't care if you get with an Asian. I don't care if you get with a Latina. Look, I I done hit every type of YOU COULD THINK OF. But the point that I'm making is I prefer black American women though. My black American women top three. But I didn't had every ethnicity you could think of, my [ __ ] But black Americans don't really have not don't really we just historically we just don't have that logic of like don't get with that African girl, don't get with that Caribbean girl. I will say black Americans have a history of saying don't get with that white girl, don't get with that white man. But it's not because of, oh, I just don't want you to be with them because just I just don't like just don't be with them. No, it's a historical context to that because those people have always been um uh negative towards us. There's always been like a it's always something underlying that's been historically like with us. You know what I'm saying? So, we get that from a form of being oppressed over here in this country historically, not just for any reason, right? We've always embraced that. If anything, we we pushed that, especially like back in the day, like in the 70s, you used to see that all the time. We used to we used to be black Americans used to push the African culture and where the dashikis and the the the black black American women used to have the colors and all that on the little the head wraps and all that. That was us. We used to embrace Africans and being with an African woman, being with an African male. WE USED TO CALL OURSELVES AFRICANAMEAN. What do you WE WE LITERALLY THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY that's still a moniker some of us go by, but we USED TO CALL OURSELVES AFRICANAMEAN. WE embracing it. Not no more because we understand that's that's that's not correct. BUT LIKE WHAT ARE WE talking about? Take go to Ghana right now. Go to Ghana right now. You know how mad them Ghanaian men going to be fellas if you black cuz you going to take all that women. They all like 5'9 five. No, they all they all like 5'6, 5'7. You going to take all their women. You know what I'm saying? They going to be mad as hell. Black American women go to Ghana right now. Look at how mad them black American uh them them Ghanaian women going to be. Go to Africa. Go to somebody right now as a black American man. See how they going to treat you. Boy, you going to be in a brazing bull looking crazy cuz you try to get you a black and uh you try to get you a East African woman. You have went to South Africa. You didn't went to damn Ghana somewhere. You done went to damn damn damn damn Kenya somewhere. They going to put you in a brazen bull. You don't know what a brazen bull is? Look it up. You going to be in there screaming, looking crazy. And it a it's an ancient tor to torture method. Go look it up, [ __ ] You going to be an a brazing bull, [ __ ] Go look it up. [laughter] If you know, you know. We don't have that. We don't hate on African women over here. We don't hate on African men over here for who they date. You can't go over there and date and not get no push back on that. We don't have that. So, miss me with the whole we don't accept. We've always accepted these people. Miss me with that. They will hate me and instantly know I'm American. Hell yeah. Cuz they going to be trying to copy your style. Copy your whole flow. It just is what it is.
Absolutely. Will say, "But don't bring home a black American woman or don't deal with a black American man." Like, that's that's a real real thing. And and then like you your point said, it's not really even. It's not really equal because I' I don't think I've ever heard a black foundational black American ever say, "Don't date an African."
Never heard that in the history of my life.
We said we were African-Amean
And they weren't happy. A lot of them weren't happy with that. So, it's definitely not even. But again, both sides are basing it a lot of times on that type of propaganda and stuff like that. It's just that I think and you got to
Think about it this way. What are the caliber and the class of Africans that are evil able to make the jump to get here? These are not, um, these are not regular urban community poverty Africans, which is the equivalent over here. Exactly. These are, uh, people who are heavy with education.
Well, real quick, real quick. No, the poverty, the poverty, he's incorrect on that. The povertystricken Africans are not the equivalent over here. Their 1% is our average. So to say that the povertystricken Africans over there is the equivalent of the povertystricken, stricken black Americans over here, you would have to use the logic and the argument to say, okay, what is the average, what is the average income of a poor black American compared to a poor African? They probably don't even have an income over there. You know what I'm saying? So, no, that's not the same at all because even our poorest black Americans here, that class of the like, the poor, even some of the homeless, right, would still be living better than a good majority of the Africans over there in some parts of their country. So, that wouldn't even be that wouldn't even make any sense. So, you're incorrect there. Their 1% or their 5% or their 1% is equating to our average or slightly above average. That's how that goes, right? Because you're, you're making a distinction of of you not, you're, you're, you're making a distinction and not, um, um, adding on the context to it. So like, you know what I'm saying, the, the, like the, the how much money somebody makes, the cost of living, things like that. So, if you make $50,000 a year in America and you move to, I don't know, you move to damn Kenya, your $50,000 in Kenya is going to go way longer, right, than it would in America. If you make the same equivalent over there of their whatever means $50,000 for for Kenyans, you ain't going to be able to do much over here in America. So, that's incorrect.
But, let's listen to what you got to say here. These are, uh, people who are heavy with education, um, class distinction, making sure that they're putting their child and their their children and their families in the best position possible. They don't have nearly as much wiggle room for making mistakes. And the last thing they want their children to do is to be involved and interacting with the group that they're being told is the one that's the huge, that's connected to all the problems in society. Is that a white nationalist supremacist talking point? Yes, it is. But that's really the lens that they're kind of operating from. Now, what changes that is a lot of them end up meaning the the the kids, they go to school, they start hanging out, we start doing life together, we start going to college together, and a lot of the things their parents warned them about. They start to learn which parts were true, which parts weren't. And you see it in our everyday lives when you're hanging out and growing up with them. They they're not their parents, a lot of them. They may start out that way, but over time experientially their opinions and stuff starts to change.
We had an African woman, we have several African women on the show, and I remember one of them, she was actually Caribbean in this particular instance. But she did say when she came to America, her parents did sit her down and have that same conversation that, um, you just mentioned. My parents are both from Grenada. They came here in the like 80s and 90s. So what he was saying about how they think that black people are lazy does like resonate with me, 'cause I've heard that a lot. What are some negative stereotypes y'all heard about black and from your parents, from your friends?
You literally said it all. That's it. Yeah. 100%. Like my mom would tell me not to marry, not she says it all the time. Cuz if you as an immigrant come over here and you get that lecture, you know what I mean? And again, I want again, I want to make sure I say this. I [clears throat] don't think it's anything wrong with an African saying that they don't want their children dating a black American. Um, I don't think it's anything wrong with that. Um, because first of all, I don't think it's anything wrong with preserving your own culture. Even people get mad and I don't understand why y'all why some of y'all do this. And I'm not saying some of y'all like anybody specific in the chat. I'm speaking in general. I don't know why some people, they don't even like when white people say like, we want to mirror our own. Why do you? Why is it racist because a white person wants to marry their own? A black person or an Arab person or an Asian. There's nothing wrong with wanting to mirror your own. You want to be around like-minded people who you can keep your culture intact. Keep your blood pure. I don't think anything is wrong with that. The problem is a lot of times it's the mentality behind it. You know what I'm saying? Me personally, I would want my children to date another black American, right? The person that I'm going to have children with is going to be a black American woman. So, um, I would want my children to also have that same mentality, but I wouldn't like come from a well, don't marry that African because the Africans are dirty and lazy and nasty people because that's just not, I, I wouldn't infect that with my children. You know what I'm saying? And I think that's the difference. It's where is this mentality coming from? I don't, I don't see anything wrong with keeping your your your culture intact, your lineage intact. There's nothing wrong with that. But the when y'all say it, it's coming from a place of like, these people are just bad people as a collective. So get away from them. I don't, I, I won't come from that, you know, from that narrative. At least not me. So, but yeah, if a Nigerian says, "I want to stay with a Nigerian," as you should. I don't see nothing wrong with that.
She says it all the time, cuz if you as an immigrant come over here and you get that lecture, you know what I mean? You already, like I said, they coming from a negative perspective, scratching all these jokes that we already have in your mind that the worst of us, you know, you, you have a pep, you got a pep talk. You got a whole pep talk saying, you see those people, yeah, stay away from them. So, you already came over here with a skewed perception. You didn't even give us a chance. And now you know, because you didn't take time to learn our culture or figure out whatever the case is. Now you're looking at, you know, what he call me, African booty scratcher. My parents is right. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're not even really, you're not understanding the context. And I, and I get that is a, you know, when we have these diaspora conversations, that boot African booty scratcher sticks to them, like, you know, [laughter] they grown ass adults. And and I don't want to, I don't want to, you know, I don't want to take away their experience.
Well, it's the colorism too, right? If if a lot of them are significantly darker shade than a lot of foundational black Americans, it's, it's a, you're coming from another culture. Your parents are telling you one thing. The media and the videos are showing you something different. And then when you come into this space, it's the jokes. It's the comments. It's the colorism. I'm not going to downplay what I'm not going to downplay their experience. I'm going to acknowledge that their experience is legit. I just don't think that it's even. I don't think, like you said, I don't think it's a fair trade. I think the what they've been told about us is substantially worse than what we've been shown about them.
Yeah. Just, and I'm not trying to make light of it like, oh, you guys were hungry. We know there's rich people in Africa as well, you know, powerful people. But they don't even speak on the the fact that, um, they look at, you know, African-American, uh, statistics saying how much crime and every, they are part of that crime. They don't got when they point out, you know, black people killing each other or black people stealing. They don't say African-Americans, Africans, Jamaicans, it just, you're part of that black statistic. They do crime and in America, too.
Yeah. That's why we need to stop the blanket of blackness. This is why I don't like to call these these people black because it just, it, it undermines us. You start to dilute yourself when that happens. So, I don't do that blanket of blackness stuff. Um, 'cause I'm not going to be held accountable for another group's actions and we're not the same people. America has a big issue when it comes to distinction when it comes to distinction based on race, ethnicity, and lineage. If it's been that way for a long time, and they specifically do when it comes to black Americans. So, I'm I'm over the blanket of blackness stuff. If you're not, to me, to me, me personally, this is just my own opinion. People can have say what they want to say, but to me, if you are not at least half, I wouldn't consider you black. You can have a little bit in you, but I would not consider you black unless you are half black American. It's that simple. I know a lot of people not going to like that. You going to cry about it and don't care what you going to do. You going to beat me up about it? You going to beat my ass about it. You, you going to beat my ass about it. Pan-Africanist King 726. You going to beat my ass about it. Okay. Ain't nobody with that name. I'm just, it'll be a [ __ ] that's mad and that'll be his name. Whole time he pay African, whole time this comment akatai and Jer all over in the internet. Shut up [ __ ]. You going to be my ass about it though? H what you going to do? You ain't going to do nothing.
Yeah, but they ignore that part. It just, even in New York City, I'm thinking about, you know, the gang culture in New York City and a lot of those, the Gs, Caribbeans, you know what I'm saying? Like these, but nobody's pointing at the, nobody's saying all of all Caribbeans, they they in gang culture. We just associate they dark sin, they black. And so when we say black, now we just assume black Americans. Like, and it's like, yo, you look at them, they might, they might be cosplaying as black Americans, but you ask them where they from, they always going to say some type of Caribbean background or African background, like, you know what I mean? So, it's like, you know, you can't, you can't differentiate. And I think sometimes when they look at those stats, you know, even the black immigrants, when they look at these stats, they can't differentiate. They just see black Americans crime rate and they're not really dissecting, okay, what percentage, you know, you talk about, um, in Florida and the zo and all that, like that's Haitians, like, you know what I'm saying? Nobody's saying damn Haitians. No, it's like we get labeled as black, um, and we just automatically under that umbrella.
This is like the, sorry to interrupt, the Charlie Kirk effect. When I did my episode on Charlie Kirk, um, a lot of people were upset about it. One of my greatest critiques is the very thing that he does is what we're talking about right now. Mhm. When you constantly reference black-on-black crime and talk about black culture and talk about black people and all the criminality that's happening within the group, okay, but when you don't do that with other groups, including his own, which apparently was the greatest threat to him, um, you're giving the impression that when you think of black people, you have to see them as a collective, and white people are allowed to be seen as individuals. That's what's actually going on.
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Premacists have a tendency. Yeah. Mhm. When white supremacists, white supremacists have a tendency, white nationalists have a tendency to use a tactic where they'll mix truth and and falsehoods and they'll conflate everything and when they talk about all the out groups, they'll see them as a monolith. They'll see them as a group and they'll always reference them as a group in the negative. So they don't reference the black community from the positive aspect. They they reference constantly referencing the black community and black and black crime and black culture and black community always in reference to something being bad. But when it comes to white males shooting up schools, when it comes to white women sleeping with their students, when it comes to all the various things that [clears throat] they're doing that's unique, especially on their side and they're leading the trend, they're all seen as individuals. This is why when Charlie, the person who supposedly killed Charlie Kirk, they don't say this is a white epidemic. They don't describe this as white-on-white crime. It was just a lone shooter. But then when it's a black person that does anything and it goes viral, this is black culture. Once you see that and you learn that this is what's being said, not just amongst conservative circles, not just amongst white people and not just amongst, um, uh, non-black people in general here, it's also global.
So, 100% he is right finally about something that is true. Um, whenever you see, um, a white person do anything, they always correlate it to not him being white, but his political affiliation or his ideology. I say this all the time. If he's LGBTQ, they're going to say he's LGBTQ, so that's why he did it. It's because he's a homosexual. Um, if he is a trans, they're going to say, "Well, that's why he did it because he's trans." And by the way, I do not support the LGBTQ, um, at all. I think it's an abominable abomination, and I do not support the lifestyle. Just wanted to put that out there. But they'll blame it on the sexuality. They'll blame it on, oh, he's a he's a Democrat. He's a liberal. Oh, he he donated to Joe Biden back in 2019. Like, they'll bring up stuff like that, but they won't bring up the fact that he's just white, right? But they, they always have to correlate it to the political affiliation. Oh, he follows Kamala Harris on Twitter, so yeah, he's one of those. But if it's a black man, it doesn't matter what your political affiliation is. You're black, so that's why you did this crime. You robbed the store because you're black. The white guy, he robbed the store because he's a Democrat. They love to make that distinction so they don't have to take accountability. So he's 100% correct. They do this with every single school shooter. But if it's a mass shooting of like a a black person who shot three people at some house party, they're black and that's black culture. White boy killed three students at a high school and six other get injured. He was a lone wolf and he was mentally disabled or he's Antifa or he's a communist. It's always some political thing that they have to bring up. Just wanted to bring that up there. So people are being fed to think of the black community as a monolith in the negative. Whereas everybody else in the country is allowed to be seen as individuals.
Yeah. So when you look at it through that lens, now it makes sense why people that come here, that's their starting default position until they get more new information. I do want to ask you about, um, because right now, at least with, um, black Americans, FBAs, however, you know, you want to, um, differentiate, you know, there's there's this term delineation that's been happening. And what I'm seeing now is a lot of black Americans are wanting to delineate. And I, I'm starting to understand it more because it's like, [clears throat] we have had to share our community and our resources with everyone else. And then because we have been so, you know, welcoming to everybody else, those resources get taken away from us. And then those people that get the resources is now looking at us and saying, "Damn, well, why can't y'all do it?" Like, you know what I'm saying? We did it. And it's like, y'all took y'all taking our, y'all sharing our resources and progressing and then saying like, "Well, why ain't y'all doing it?" like, you know? So, I think there's a bit of a frustration on black American side 'cause it's not like, you know, we've been welcoming to, you know, the community and, you know, when y'all come over here, legally or illegally, you know, y'all share our communities by force, like, you know what I mean? There's not really much we could do and then we just, we welcome it and then we get kicked out in the process, like, you know what I'm saying? So, it's like, you know, what's your thoughts on a delineation? Um, do you think that's a good thing, bad thing, do you think it's divisive?
I think it's all the above. I, I think it is divisive. Uh, I think it is a good thing. I think it is all the things that people are describing it to be. Now, the problem is, okay, so I guess it's okay. That's the end of it. I thought it was more. I hate, I hate that straddle on the fence, man. Like, I hate a straggle on the fence. What is it? It's, is it div, like you, like that's it? That doesn't make any sense. Stop straggling, straddling on the fence. This is one of he, one of them Pan-African dudes. You could just tell. I don't like who, shout out on the fence, man. Get a perspective, dude. Stop playing. You know what I'm saying? Stop doing that. That's weak, man. Don't do that. I think it's divisive. I think it's good. I think it's like, come on, dude. It's divisive for for black Americans to delineate, but it's not divisive for when Africans want to delineate based on their tribes. He don't think that's divisive. I bet he don't. So, he convinced me with that. It's only when it comes to black Americans having ethnic pride and ethnic, uh, you know, um, wanting to preserve our ethnicity, and it's divisive because everybody don't get a piece of the pie. But if you know, if I was to go to to an African country, they would delineate to say I'm not African, I'm a black American or just an American, and they would make sure to delineate. I don't get to just attach myself to them. I'm not, I'm a different, I'm an outsider. If I go to any country in Africa, I am an outsider. I'm not a part of their lineage, and they're going to make that distinction. And not only on paper, but they're going to make that distinction socially, right? But in America, they don't make that distinction. They, they don't make the distinction on on paper and barely make the distinction socially until it comes to us. And now we've making that distinction socially, and we're trying to get that distinction, you know, switched on paper as well. So, he can miss me with that. He's likely not full black American, if he is, um, and I, I just, I don't know. Or he just a full-on, he just a full-on immigrant 'cause he sound crazy as hell. Miss me with all that flip-flopping and jumping around on the fence, man. I don't like all that. Anywhere.