Oh, okay. That's the regular one. YouTube, the blue one's YouTube. Okay, go ahead. Oh, if you didn't get anything, don't worry about it. I could get to it because I was really out of it. I got... Okay, no worries, no worries, no worries. Okay, we heard that part. Yeah. Okay. I thought someone said that they just got done with five, six, and seven. Someone's connect. Oh, okay. Hey Jeff, you should turn your your video off unless we want to see your face. Body want to see me? They can. All right, well, I'm not gonna wait any longer. Um, we can, we can talk about it later then. So, we're talking about Deliverance this week, and several of you guys have already been through it, so that's really cool. I'm just hoping some other people got on. Is there other people that are on there, but the videos are not up? Okay, who are they? Do you, can you tell? Oh, again, Lor's on there twice. Okay, she's on there twice. Yeah. Yeah, I think she's trying to get on her IP. Okay, just came in. Okay.

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Okay, so one of the things, you know, this is, this should be a refresher for some of you, but also some of you didn't have the full, um, Bear Creek Deliverance model, which is, um, really, really amazing and and very, um, uh, I guess they do a lot, they go deep, you know. I love that part. So, um, one of the questions is, how do you get demonized? Anybody have any qui, qui, any answers? You have your voice. Getting into a practice of sinning, and, uh, sin opens the door, and unforgiveness opens the door. Exposure and participation in the cult. Okay, that's good. Oh, if you, if you're not talking, you have to mute. You mute yourself. Yeah, there's an echo in there. Not sure why there's an echo. But I said, trauma is a way for it to enter. Okay.

So in Matthew 18:10, it says, this is what the scripture says. It says, "See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of the Father in Heaven." Wow. You know, that's pretty awesome. So what if, what if, you know, we have an angel of light that's assigned to us when we're born, or angels? So, is it possible that the enemy does nothing but copy? Does he also send angels of darkness to follow us? So, you know, um, if you ever felt like, you know, there's moments that you know that God protected you even when you weren't a Christian, so that's an evidence of the angels of light protecting you, or God somehow intervened so that the enemy didn't take you out. You know, I, I feel like the, the darkness loves to come in there and loves to attack us and and loves to find ways to take us out. So, um, so the, the thing that I, I really want to talk about is Jesus's mission statement. Like, he came here to, um, he came here to dispel the darkness. He came here to finish what what Adam wasn't able to. And, and when he came, I love what they're saying here in, um, in Luke 4. If you guys can go to Luke 4, let me see if I can read it on my Bible, on my Bible app here. And it, it's, this is, um, Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into, into the wilderness. So as soon as he's baptized in the Holy Spirit, from when he's baptized in the water with John the Baptist, Jesus is led into the wilderness. And from, who's talking? I'll him. Okay.

"For 40 days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them, he was hungry. And the devil said to him, 'If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.' Jesus answered, 'It is written: Man shall not live on bread alone.'"

Devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, "I will give you all their authority and splendor. It has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want. If you worship me, it will be yours." And Jesus answered, "It is written: Worship the Lord your God and serve him only."

The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down from here, for it is written: 'He will command his angels concerning you to guard you carefully; they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'" And Jesus answered, "It is said: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"

When the devil had finished all these tempting, he left him until an opportune time.

So this is where it gets really good. Jesus returned to Galilee in the power of the Holy Spirit, and the, and the news about him spread throughout the countryside. He was teaching in the synagogues, and everyone praised him. He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day, he went into the synagogue as, as was his custom. He stood up to read, and he stood up to read, and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written:

"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

Then he rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant, and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him. He began saying to them, "Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing." All spoke well of him and were, were amazed at the gracious words that came, came from his lips. "Isn't this Joseph's son?" they asked. And Jesus said, "Surely you will quote this proverb to me: 'Physician, heal yourself!' And you will tell me, 'Do, do hear and in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.'" Sorry, sorry. "Truly I tell you," he continued, "no prophet is accepted in his hometown." And it's Jesus telling that. And wow. "I assure you that there were many widows in Israel in Elijah's time, when the sky was shut for three and a half years and there was severe famine throughout the land, yet Elijah was not sent to any of them, but to a widow in Zarephath, in the region of Sidon. And there were many Israelites with leprosy in the time of Elisha the prophet, yet none, not one of them was cleansed, only Naaman."

So he was also picking out that not everyone was healed by the other people either, you know. And, and it was who, who God sent to them. But Jesus was proclaiming that that scripture was fulfilled, that Isaiah, it's Isaiah 61:1-4, was completely fulfilled in this moment when Jesus read the scripture. And Jesus lives inside of us. So I believe that we have the ability to do the same thing. As he read here, and it's, "The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, and to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

So what does it mean to set someone free? Like, to have freedom? Is there a difference between freedom and liberty? You know, freedom is, is when you are not bound anymore. But what's the difference between freedom and liberty? Does anybody know?

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Joanne, so I'll share with you. So liberty is, is like, so freedom is that I am free and I'm not chained to this table. But freedom doesn't tell me that I know that. Liberty is knowing that I'm free from this table. So remember how they have horses? Where in the old days they would have their harness and their reins, and they would just drop them, and the horse would stand there and not move anywhere? Well, they have freedom, but they don't know they have liberty. The same with an elephant. An elephant, um, they've been trained that they've been chained. And as big as they are, I don't think they're very smart because they don't have to chain them after a while if they don't want to, and the, the elephant won't go anywhere. You know, unless maybe a mouse comes by and that might scare them, because I think mice actually scare the heck out of an elephant for some reason. I'm not sure why. But anyway, knowing you are free is the key. And getting free is like, we really believe that when, when someone has been, when they accept Jesus as Lord and Savior, how many times do, do we still struggle with stuff? And, you know, and I love this shirt, it says, "It is finished." And, um, you know, it is finished when we accept Jesus. But why do we not understand that fully? We don't grasp it for some reason. And I'm not sure, you know, completely why. But I keep feeling like God is showing me that the more we really allow him to remove the garbage from all those years, and the more he can fill us up, the more we understand how much freedom we really have and how much liberty we have. You know, and, and the more we understand that, the more we know that it is finished. It was completed on the cross. And as Jesus lives inside of us, and as the Holy Spirit comes into us and reveals the Father and Jesus in us, we, we step into our call. We step into where we're called to step into. We see the eyes of the blind open, we'll see the deaf ears open, we'll see the lame healed, we'll see the demons cast out, and we'll set at liberty the captives. We'll even see leprosy healed, you know. But we wonder why we don't see some of that, you know. When, when I accepted Jesus, there was an amazing woman of God who prayed for me, you know, and I felt something in that moment. I did. And I believe that I accepted Jesus in that moment. But, you know, when I read the scriptures, there was no change in my life. And, you know, the church that I went to didn't believe in the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and they didn't believe in the gifts of the Spirit. And I'm not knocking anyone there, and I'm just making a point that if, if somebody is not baptized in the Holy Spirit, what are you getting when you're prayed for? I'm not saying you're not getting Jesus, because they do believe in, in salvation. I believe that there's something different between salvation and baptism of the Holy Spirit. But what if, what if they don't believe that you can have demons? What if they're not taught about demons? What if they're not taught about discernment? What if they're not taught about the gifts of the Spirit? So what do you get? Like, I feel like that's just a big question mark. What do we get? We get salvation. We have Jesus. But how do we get the rest? You know, Jesus even told the disciples to go into Jerusalem and wait for the power to come upon them. So if, when Paul ran into the 12 disciples in Ephesus, in E, um, it's Acts 19, when he ran into the 12 disciples, sorry, these disciples were after Jesus went to the cross. They could have been John's disciples, but it doesn't say that they were John's disciples. It says, just says that they're disciples. And he said, "When you believed, were you baptized in the Holy Spirit?" And he said, "No, we haven't even heard of him." They were lacking the power that the other ones got when they were waited in the upper room. So, is there a difference? You know, is there? So when he lays hands on them, they get baptized in the Holy Spirit, they speak in tongues, and they prophesy. So, technically, they had this, this sign that showed that they were baptized in the Holy Spirit. The, the Spirit itself allowed them to prophesy. I don't believe that it's just about the speaking in tongues that's evidence. I actually believe that moving in the Spirit, in the gifts of the Spirit, that shows that you're baptized in the Holy Spirit. So, so if somebody prayed for me and he didn't believe in deliverance, could the enemy be smart enough to hide? You know, and if, if there's no power there, I can still receive it with my head, maybe feel something in my heart. I'm not denying that people aren't saved and they accepted Jesus. I'm not saying that at all. I'm just putting a question mark out there. Is there, or could there be issues that I've encountered throughout my life that has caused, you know, even generational curses that are lingering and grabbing a hold of me and keeping me from walking in my destiny? Um, there's lies that I've been believing. You know, what if, um, when we get wounded, either early in our mother's womb or shortly after birth, that that wound is so, um, so powerfully wounded that the enemy has an open door into us? What if? And I just want to throw out questions. You know, um, so how do we, what do we do? You know, I feel like, what is the motive of Satan? What is his motive? Anybody have an answer? Do you know what Satan's motive is? To kill, steal, and destroy us. Um, yeah, that's one. Yes. Anybody else? Deceive us. Yes. So what about, to keep us in bondage? Yes. So some of you may have heard this saying, if you're going into worship, say for instance, you got a chance to go to Bethel or or some place where they have this amazing worship, you know, even in your house, maybe you just had this amazing worship, and someone hit you in the big toe with a hammer, and I mean, really hammered it. When you go in there to worship, do you think you're going to be able to focus on that worship? I'm thinking that toe is going to be thumping so bad that it's got your focus and it distracts you. And that is what the enemy's focus is, is to take your worship off of God and worship him. Because when you take your focus off of him and put it on your toe, it's like, oh, that hurts. It hurts. It hurts. I can't jump around. I can't be free. So Satan's motive is, yes, to, to steal, kill, and destroy, but his main motive is actually to steal our worship from God. If someone is trying to kill you, they actually have your complete attention. And so many times we are, we feel like the enemy is trying to kill us. You know, and, you know, when I was growing up, I, I, I didn't know God. I actually didn't come to know Jesus until I was 20 years old. But I had some major, um, incidents in my life where I lost my sister when I was 14 in a car accident. I lost my dad when I was 15 in another accident. And when I was 17, my niece was killed in a car accident. Two of those were in drunk driving accidents. My dad was a work-related accident. And so the dates, and I'll just share with you, this is how crazy the enemy is. So my sister was killed on, I think, the 21st of a month. My niece was killed on the 20th of a month. And my dad was, or the 22nd of a month. And my dad was killed on the 24th. And I lived my life in fear that on the 23rd of any month that I could lose somebody. Isn't that crazy? So for those next years, from from 17 to 38, I lived in fear. And I went all the time. And my mom was not healthy. So I was always waiting for, for when was she going to be taken from me? And the enemy just chased me, you know, because we had so many med, um, accidents in our life. And so that trauma, that that added to it, and that just added another level of fear, you know. Um, John 10:10 says, "The thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. I have come that they may have life, and have it to the fullness." So God, if we would allow what the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy, and we let God turn into something great, like the enemy doesn't win. And this is what, when my nephew was killed in a car accident in, uh, 2008, I was supposed to talk to him six months earlier and talked to him about a tattoo he had on his arm that was a cross. And I was supposed to ask him what it was. And I walked in disobedience to God because I was afraid that I would push him away. So fear caused me to push, um, push him away from God too, or push me away from talking to Mark about God. And all I had to do was say, "Hey Mark, what did, what does that tattoo mean?" So in that six months later, he's killed in a drunk driving accident. When that happened, I vowed that I would lay my life down for God, that I didn't want to ever be the responsibility of someone not walking in a relationship with Christ, and I didn't want to ever stand between fear and that person again, and be afraid that I would push them away from God. And trust God that he would, he had his hand in the, in, in all of it. It set me into just an amazing journey with God because I took what the enemy meant for harm and allowed God to use me in a great and mighty way. You know, I don't know if Mark would still be here today if I would have got the chance to talk to him. I don't know that. I don't live in regrets, but I know that I am going to thump the enemy every day of my life because of it. And that's what we need to do. When we lose a loved one, you know, we have a season of mourning, but after that, like, let's go thump the enemy. Let's go make the enemy pay for taking our family, especially from accidents or young, when they die young. That is not God's will. Like, I feel that it's the enemy that comes to steal, kill, and destroy. And the enemy comes and he plants seeds of doubt and negativity. He causes illnesses and sickness. It's not from God. God does not allow it. And in that, what are we going to do? Because we know different. So in that mission statement with, with Jesus, these are the perks of the kingdom of God that are for us: receiving and comprehending the good news, healing the brokenhearted or the brokenness, deliverance from what rules us, spiritual sight, and a relationship with the Father, and freedom from debilitating wounds. So God, God has put all of us here for a reason. And also, like, when, when you, um, when you receive Christ in salvation, how many times is it this head knowledge until it works its way down here to your heart? You know, I believe I was the seed that was planted on rocky soil, and the enemy came and snatched the soil. And you might not have been able to snatch me out of God's hand, but I'm believing that there was not a lot of watering, there was not a lot of fertilizing, and there was no growth, and there was no fruit in my life for the next 18 years. I was probably still a heathen. I was a rascal, and I just wanted to have fun. But the enemy came to steal, come to steal, kill, and destroy. And he put me in a place where I was committing suicide, and he was completely going to take my life out. But God pulled my car off the embankment when I was committing suicide and turned my life around, filled me with the Holy Spirit, and brought the scriptures alive. And, and I believe that without the Holy Spirit, we cannot find revelation. So when you read something with the Holy Spirit, or hearing somebody speak, we had the ability to gain the revelation from the Holy Spirit. And, and that creates transformation in us, and that shifts your identity. We can't just hear someone talk and expect them to, um, their knowledge or their revelation to become revelation for us. We have to chew on that, and we have to take it back to God and let God make it real in our life. That's when it changes and shifts our, our identity. And that's when the presence, if flows out of our identity. So that's when the presence of God really starts to move, is when, when we allow him to pour into us revelation. Um, and it's out of the belly should flow rivers of living water. Out of your presence, he is flowing out of you. And out of you greater than, um, wait a minute, hold on. Out of your presence, he is flowing out of you greater than you can dare dream or imagine. I know that's not all scripture, but that's what I wrote down here. That's found in Trina's, [Laughter] Bible. No, that's two scriptures put together. But out of, out of you flows living water. So as you allow the, the revelation of God to come into you and transform you, changing your identity, knowing that Christ lives in you, the fullness and the hope of all glory, the more that flows out of you, the presence flows out of you and touches other people. Like, that's where it becomes powerful. We are called to preach, and it's just to say the gospel. It's not about going and preaching the word of God and standing on a street corner. It is just talking. That's all that word means. It actually means to say, to say the gospel. Um, you know, when we accept Christ and when we have the revelation, we have the ability to repent and turn the opposite direction. You don't have the ability to do it when you just gain knowledge. It has to be the revelation. It's, it's God's, um, it's the Holy Spirit that when he comes into you, he brings the power to repent. People, nothing that we can do can make anybody change the way they live their life. It is only through the Holy Spirit. And I believe the more that we really come into knowing who we are, the more the presence of God flows out of us and, and touches other people's lives. And I really feel like if you're in ministry, the biggest thing that you need to do is to build the relationship with God and allow him to flow in and through you and allow him to heal you. And the more you get healed, the more you are able to fill up with God. And the more you spend time in the presence, like we had this, um, we spent, we went to Bethel for the conference last week, and the awesome thing is, is we were in intense presence of worship every day. It was really, really awesome worship. And all that pouring into you, and you laying your life down, it's like, God, if there's anything in me, remove it. And there's some stuff that started bubbling up last week, and I got rid of it. And I didn't realize that it was still there because it was shoved all the way down in there. So the more we get into worship, the more the presence of God gets in you, the more it comes to the surface. And when it's there in your face, you have two choices. You can get rid of it, and if you can't get rid of it, you help get someone to help you get rid of it, or you will push it back down. And what if after a while, you know, it starts to become hardened, and it makes it harder for you to hear God in that area? You know, sometimes things hurt so bad that we don't want to deal with it. So let's see where else we're going to go with this. Um, so prophetic deliverance. I love this because what we do when we do prophetic deliverance is we, we set you in a chair. Say for instance, this would be the chair. We'll set you there, and then someone would be leading here, and they're looking at you, and then we would place two or three or four people around you at different angles, and we would not, we're not looking at you, we're looking at if there's any spirits in you that are not from God. And I don't believe that a Christian can be possessed of a devil, but I also do believe that when we don't fully give God all of our hearts, and sometimes we don't even know we didn't do that, that we, um, that they can reside. You know, and I love this. I'm, if I can find this testimony, I will, I will send this out as a video this week. And it's a really short one. Todd White was preaching on it one night, and he said he had a friend who had a dream. And in the dream, the guy said that he was in, in this house, and Jesus came to the door and wanted to come, come and live in the house. So it would be like Jesus wanting to come into your heart. And he said he gave Jesus the room upstairs. He gave him a bedroom. And so that night, the devil comes to the door. The guy answers the door, and he gets all beat up by the devil. And Jesus comes down in the morning. He's like, "Man, what happened to you?" He's like, "Well, the enemy was at the door last night." And he says, "I called for you, but you didn't come." He said, "Well, dude, you already gave me a room. You didn't give me the house." And so he gave him the upstairs, you know. And, and so slowly he would give him more and more. But every night he kept getting beat up, and he would call out for Jesus, but he didn't give Jesus access to the entire house. And so he gives that Jesus access to the entire house finally in the dream. And, and still yet, Jesus doesn't come and help him. And he's like, "I gave you the whole house." He says, "Nope, when you sign over the deed, then I own the house." So he signs over the deed of the house. The enemy comes to the door that night, and Jesus answers the door. So what if in our life, we truly don't give Jesus full access to every area of our heart? And, you know, I, I'm an example of that. You know, if I accepted Jesus when I was 20, yet didn't get baptized in the Holy Spirit till I was 38, I couldn't read the Bible anyway in those 18 years. I couldn't, I had no ability to comprehend what I read, um, you know, unless I really, really studied it long. But I mean, I didn't find the Bible exciting at all, you know. The only thing that was exciting in my life was computers at that point, and I could, I could learn to program. It was crazy because it was easy, it was quick, it was, you could memorize a lot of stuff. And that's how I learned was memorizing. So if I didn't give Jesus all my heart, does that still give the enemy reign and rule of me? And I believe it does. I believe until I get rid of the lies that unbelieving, I get rid of the generational curse that I'm believing, or that that is hindering my life, um, there's a lot of things around us like the atmosphere that we live in, the people that are around us, it could or may be carrying demonic manifestations also. You know, the culture that you live in, there's so many factors that affect how you walk your life out. So when I get baptized in the Holy Spirit, when, when God saves me from suicide, my life starts to change. Now I had the Holy Spirit, and now the Bible is starting to make sense to me. And I'm reading it. My mom thought I was in a cult, that's how much I was reading the Bible. I would go in my room and read for hours and hours and hours. And I would pray, and I didn't really understand prayer. I didn't really have anybody in my life that really knew what I was going through, you know. A lot of people are like, "I don't know, you're this weird," and, you know, and so I just, I didn't do a lot of stuff with a lot of people. And I started pulling away from a lot of people at that point because I was just enjoying spending time with God. And I didn't understand the relationship, but I, I spent time with him through the word. And I started realizing that, you know, it says that we would heal the sick, cast out demons, raise the dead, and set at liberty the captives. I, I was reading the stories in, in the book of Acts. I was reading the Gospels. And I saw that people got healed. I had, I had 12 years of medical problems that didn't leave when I got saved from my car accident. And so I went after that stuff. I went after knowing like, why did I have these medical problems and why didn't they get healed? And I would say, "God, you said that the woman with the blood disorder, she had such a tenacity, she had such a hunger to be healed, and she had such a belief. I'm coming after you with that understanding that you're going to heal me too, because you're the same God you were yesterday as you are today as you will be tomorrow. And so if you healed her in scripture, I have a, a problem right now, and it might not be a blood disorder or bleeding, but it feels like I'm bleeding and I'm suffering, and I need your healing." And I went after him for almost a whole year. But that relationship was probably the best moment of my life. Like, I was so in love with his word, and it was coming alive. But I didn't know anything about healing, you know. And so it's, it's, we learn, you know, it's, everything doesn't come, come at once, you know. It's, it's a process. And so then I, I come to understand that he heals when I get laid out in the spirit. I've never understood that before. I never saw, I'm, I get laid out in the spirit, and the Holy Spirit comes through me, and Jesus heals my body. And the next day, I'm standing at a, a softball tournament, and I eat some french fries that I should have gotten really sick off of, and I started to get sick. But I had faith that God, you heal me the night before. I don't understand why I'm getting sick. I would have vomiting and diarrhea, and I would have fatigue for like two weeks. It would put you in bed. And so I would stay away from any gluten because I had a severe case of Celiac sprue. And so as I went, um, to the bathroom, I'm like, I'm crying out to God. I'm pulling on God's heartstrings. And I said, "God, I know you healed me the night before. I don't understand why I'm dealing with this now." And I believe it was that tenacity of like the woman with the blood disorder. I went after him for that problem, and I completely got healed in that moment. I'm believing I got healed the night before, but somewhere in the middle of there, the enemy is testing me. It wasn't God. I don't believe that God tests us. And in that process, when I cried out to God and I said, "I don't understand why I'm feeling the way I'm feeling," everything went away in that moment. That healing happened. I didn't have any more fatigue. I didn't have the diarrhea or vomiting. I could eat anything that I wanted. I started gradually working my way into it with belief. And this one day, this is amazing, like transformation happens in you when, when God's revelation pours out through you. And so I'm sitting eating some pizza, and this is the second time I'm testing the food to see if I can eat. And this guy walks past my office at work, and he, he walks back, and he's like, "Hey," he said, "Did you get married while I was away?" I'm like, "No, why?" And I'm just grinning ear to ear because I just got to eat my first pizza for 12 years, and it tasted amazing. Like, my sister could make amazing pizzas, but this was, this was really, really amazing because it was full of gluten and all that good stuff that, that I couldn't have for 12 years. And, and I just was beaming ear to ear, and it opened up a door for me to talk to him about what God just did in my life. So that was just another marker. Like, I believe in that moment, some other things got displaced. So through God's glory, so much can be healed. So much can be, um, so much of the demonic can be removed. I believe disease and sickness is not from God. So if it's not from God, what is it? The enemy brings sickness and disease, not God. So, um, let's see here. So my, I'm just sharing my journey because I feel like this is really important, you know. Um, so in 2015, I had some friends talk to me about this ministry called Bear Creek. And, you know, I had went through Global Awakening, went through, um, at this point, I'd already went through L. Angle School. And, you know, I didn't understand, um, deliverance that well. I didn't have a lot of experience with it. We did teach on it in school, you know, we got, we had a lot of different deliverance ministries speak to us. And they said they had some friends that were going, and Joanne actually knows some of these people. And, so they said, "Hey, you should go with us." And I, I wasn't able to go because I couldn't afford to go down there. But that summer, I have an encounter with God, and he shows me this big black demon that's hovering behind me. And so I didn't know if it was this one person that I was running with, if it was hers, and I was cowering underneath of it, or if it was mine, and it was causing me to cower. And the, the crazy thing is, I always felt like I was like a, um, like when I would be around certain people, I had no power, and I would do stupid stuff. Like I felt like they could control me to do whatever they wanted me to do. I didn't understand it. But in that moment when I had that dream, I called Bear Creek and I said, "Hey, um, hey, I think I need to come and see if there's something there." And what I tell people is, if you're having an issue in your life and you're going around this mountain time after time after after time, go and see if there's a reason why that mountain continues to exist. Is there a reason why you're not able to get past this, this thing that keeps haunting you? And so when I went there, they, they put me in the middle, and they sat around me. And I actually sat there with my arms closed like this, and I'm like, "This is either going to be prophetic or pathetic, and I'm not giving you no information," because they said that they were a pro, a prophetic ministry. So I sat there, and the guy leading the, the lead chair, he looks at me and he says, "I see you one step forward, two steps back." And I'm like, "Hmm, I think we can talk." And I, like, relax in the chair. That was a prophetic, or that was a word of knowledge, because I always felt like I was running out of the gates, and every time I would get to that gate, the gate would be shut, and I would go flying backwards. Every time I would try to step into something, I would get nailed. And after a while, you get, you get tired of trying to step. So what they found with me was a spirit of destroyer and the spirit of Leah. The destroyer spirit is, so if I would hand you this iPad, say for instance, your dreams and your visions, your health, your relationships, the enemy would crush it, and it becomes broken glass at your feet, and then you end up stepping on it, and you end up being afraid to step into your future. You're, it's your dreams, your hopes, your visions. You know, my health was horrible for 12 years. Um, I had, um, I had dreams that never fully manifested. They would always be crushed as soon as I would try to walk them out. And after a while, you get tired of trying and you lose hope. So the other one was called Leah. And Leah is, um, in the scriptures, if you look up Leah, she is the one that marries Jacob, but that's not the one that Jacob's in love with. Jacob's in love with Rachel. And Rachel, if, if this is correct, and I, I challenge you, everything that I say, take it back to God and take, take it back to scripture. But this is what I was, I've read and what I've been told, that Rachel was probably about seven years old, and she didn't have to wear her burka or burqa. And so Jacob could see her beauty. He's like, 80 years old. Well, nowadays in our culture, that would be a pervert, just being real. Like, cultures are different. That's just disgusting. So he sees the beauty in Rachel, and then he's told that he has to work seven years to be able to marry her. And technically, then she would be 14. So I think that was maybe the legal age of being able to marry her. Well, Laban does a switcheroo and puts Leah in there, and he marries the wrong woman. I'm thinking, man, there's something wrong if you don't even know who you're marrying. That's a problem. So, you know, but anyway, you would think that he had to work another seven years before he got Rachel again, but no, that's not the case. What I, what I've understood from history is that, that he only had to wait seven days to marry Rachel. So Leah only had her husband for seven days without Rachel being in the picture. All those times he had to work seven more years to work it off. But all that time, all that competition, all that anger, all that resentment, all that bitterness in Leah towards Ra, uh, towards Rachel, towards Jacob, towards her husband, all she wanted to do was love her husband and be loved by him. Like, she tried to have the most children. She, she had the most boys. Like, everything was not good enough. She had no value. She had, um, she was unworthy. In their culture, she should have had value because she had the first boy and she had the most boys. But Jacob had his eyes on Rachel, not on Leah. So that day when I got delivered, Leah dies, and Trina lives. But what do you do with that? So she, she had anger, she had fear, she had depression, she had, uh, resentment, bitterness, jealousy. She had all this stuff in a package, you know. And so, yes, the demon left, but what about the residual of all the lies that I've been believing that the demons had put in my life or allowed me to, to build in my life? So they had this ministry also called, um, their Wholeness Retreat. So I went back to the Wholeness Retreat about three months later. And in that, they, they have you, they believe that that during birth or shortly after birth, you have that wound. When we talked about that earlier, the wound where the, um, if someone hit you on the big toe, that wound. So this wound is here in your spirit, and it's something traumatic that that happens to you as a child that that you try to protect. So that wound is there, and you're trying to protect it because when you're a baby, everything is about you. Like, everyone has to carry you around, they have to take care of you, you have to rely on people, they feed you, they diaper you, they carry you, like you can't do anything for yourself. Nothing. So when I have this dream that week when I'm at this retreat, and the reason why I'm telling you about the retreat is because of the dream. In the dream, God showed me my, my parents. I was in their bedroom, and I was in the crib in their bedroom. And I, my dad yells at my mom and says, "Will you please shut her up?" And I was the crying baby in the crib. And my mom comes over to the crib. And I don't know what she did in that moment. God did not allow me to see that because my mom was torn because she loved me and she was afraid of my dad. So what do you do? You pick up your child and you go with her. I don't know if she shook me. I don't know if she spanked me. I don't know what she did to try to keep peace in the house. But in that moment, something happened, and I learned that I could not trust my parents to protect me. I was sick from birth with an ear infection that doctors couldn't find for three months of my life. So I knew that I was under three years old, and I was crying in the crib because I was sick, and I had pain in my ear, and I couldn't, you can't explain to people why you're crying because you can't talk, you know. So in that moment, I learned that I was unloved. I learned that I can't trust my parents to protect me. And there was probably a lot of other lies that happened in that moment. So those lies root in you. And so then later, God showed me that I had, um, while I was in my mother's womb, I was an inconvenience. And so how many times when we think about it, we say things that we don't really mean, but it's in the moment, in the heat of the moment. And this is what God showed me. I wasn't there. I was the little baby in the womb, but I, I think we can hear, and I think we have the ability to hear. We may not totally understand, but in that moment, somewhere after my mother conceives me, I hear, "How am I going to feed another child?" And I believe it came from my father. We had, I was the seventh baby. They have six other children in the house. And then before I'm born, my, my one sister becomes pregnant with a child, and she ends up getting married, which was a blessing, you know. But we have all this turmoil going on in our house at that time. And this lie comes into me, this belief, this is my belief, that I'm an inconvenience. I carried those things all my life, being an inconvenience, not trusting people to protect me, not trusting, or not being loved, being unworthy. Um, and then time after time, because that thing is there, that wound is there, the enemy uses it, and it attracts. So when you have a negative, which that's a negative, it's attracted by other things, and it creates that negative thing, time after time after time. So that is like, so if you look at it, the demonic will come into that place because that's a wound. It's an open door to the enemy, and he can have his way. It's not right, but how can we stop it? We don't realize how much we wound people. We don't realize how much we play a role in the enemy's camp. So in that moment, that lie becomes a belief system of mine, that I'm an inconvenience. And every time something negative happens, I believe that it's because I'm an inconvenience. I believe that I can't trust my parents to protect me. So in those moments, that becomes, um, that becomes a, a huge belief system and opened the door to the enemy. So when we go through prophetic deliverance, it's like the football is, um, or let me, let me back it up. So it's like the SWAT team coming in, and you have all the demons in the house. And so a lot of times, deliverances, they go after, "Oh, we see rejection, we see insecurity, we see, um, addiction. Oh yeah, we got addiction, we got it out, we got it out." They see things come out. Some people have their eyes up, and they see stuff come out. But what we want to do is we want to go after the ruling spirit. We want to go after the one that came in first, the one that came in because of your belief system. And this is, take it for what it's worth. Take it back to God. I'm not saying this is the only way to get rid of the demonic, and I'm not saying that you have anything that is demonic. I'm saying if you have a moment in your life that you can't get set free of something and you keep going.

Around that mountain, after that mountain, after that mountain, go after God and ask Him what it is. And if you can't get it fixed, get some other people involved. That's what I'm saying.

So in that moment, you have this SWAT team, and the head honcho is in there, the kingpin, the drug dealer of all drug dealers is in there. And he throws, he lets the, the individuals go out, and then he's like, "All right, now everybody be quiet. They'll think that we all laugh." And you could have been sitting there for 10 hours in that day, delivering that person from all kinds of stuff. And then all of a sudden, the person is okay because the demons aren't roused up, and they think that they got it. And you wonder why sometimes when people get delivered of drugs and alcohol, that they're good for about three months, and then, or maybe even a year, maybe even four years, and then all of a sudden, the addiction comes back with a vengeance. What if there's a ruling spirit that wasn't removed that allowed the access of that thing to come back in? And when it comes back in, it can come back in seven times worse. So the kingpin is the one that we're looking for. And we're not looking for, looking at you, we're looking at the spirits that could or could not be within you. And if we don't see anything, we, we tell you, "Hey, we think you're good to go. We think it's more of a wholeness issue. We've seen that, you know." And we're not, we want to be honest with the people. We don't want to just try to drum up something because that's lying to God. So we, if we see something, we remove that. And then we fill you up with the Holy Holy Spirit. We, we break off the generational curse, and we break off the religious spirit. Because the religious spirit in America is not about religion, it's about performance. And about 98% of Americans are all about performance because that's what our culture creates. It opens a door to the religious spirit. So once you get that removed, then you go after the lies that you're believing. And do you want to share about the, this stuff, and then I'll come back and share more? That now? Yeah, you good? I guess in here, I'm going to throw her in. I'm going to throw her out of the boat. Out. Yeah. I need that book up there. Oh, you want this book? Okay. And if you guys want to take a break, are you good? Throw up your thumbs if you're all good. We'll just keep going. You guys can take breaks whenever you need to. They can, I'll let you figure out what page you need. And here's your microphone. Find my page. And I'll. So while she's doing that, um, I'll just share this part with the wholeness. The wholeness is like a football player. So the wound is like the football. And all the lies that are on top of you, or the, the belief system, can be that football too. And all the lies on top of it, or all the football players on top of that are like the lies. And you got to go after those lies to see that gaping wound so that you can allow God to work on that. So I'll let you jump in this. Oh, you need your little, oh, microphones over there. There [Applause] is. Oh, I next to my necklace. It might move and scratch. It's next to my necklace. Okay, you got those? Okay. Yeah. All right. Okay. Anything else you need? Trina? Oh, she needs her drinks. 7:40. Big clock over there. Okay. I'm going to talk to you a little bit about the five steps of wholeness. First step is identifying the wound. You need to come, identify what the core, the poe problem is. Kind of come in and get the root of what the problem is, which will be the wound. Sometimes it's an emotional, um, something painful emotions that would have affected you. Some comes, it, it, wait, where am I going here? Hold on. All right, deep breath. All right. You identify the wound. Sometimes there's a core belief that is the, is at the root of the painful emotions or a problem behavior. Sometimes there's something like, you might have believed from birth that caused it, becomes part of your identity, and you base that, becomes part of your view of how you, it's the lie that you believe rather than what the truth of the word of God is. Um, if you read in Proverbs 23, uh, seven, it says, "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he." So you have something that you might have believed since, um, maybe since, um, not really, hasn't had me since his birth. We usually go back to childhood. You identify something, maybe somebody hurt you in some way. It could be way, maybe somebody picked on you, like a, maybe like a bullying, then you, you start believing that they, they tell you that you're, you know, that you're no good, or they pick on you and just say that you're not worth anything. And you start believing that as your core value. And that's not what God says about you. He, he values you very much. And he, that's the opposite of what the truth is. So that's part of the root of identifying what the problem, the wound is. And once we identify, we, all the times, we have to go in and ask the Holy Spirit, "What is the lie that I'm believing? What is this wound?" So you come in and ask the Holy Spirit, "What, what am I believing that? What's the lie that I'm believing? What's the wound here in my, in my life?" Then you can, when you ask Him that, then once He reveals that to you, then you can confess that problem to God, allow the heavenly Father to come in and cleanse that wound. In 1 John, um, 1:9, it says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." So He comes in and cleans up that, confess that lie that we're believing. And so it doesn't become a sin in our life, then it causes any negative effects upon us any longer. This is like a five-step process. So it's like, that's only step two of it. Our, our sins become the lies and the faults. They become toxic and they can cause darkness in our thinking, negative thoughts within us that we need to just get rid of. Because, you know, if we consider ourselves unworthy, that's not something that God is telling us. That's something that Satan's trying to tell us. And that can just destroy us and just, just not make us feel good about ourselves. So, so we need to admit that that lie to God and admit it so He can come in and cleanse us of that area. So when we do identify the lie, the next step is just to hand it over to Him. We're like, we have to, to believe that we, we don't want to hold on to that lie any longer, or that sin, or whatever is in our life. And we need to hand it, put in our hands and hand it over to Him. In 1 Corinthians 10:5, it says, "Bring into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." So we need to bring that, let lie and confess it to Him and say, "I'm believing this about myself, and I know that's not what You are telling me I am. So this is a lie." So we need to hand it back over to Him. And when we do that, He's faithful. He'll forgive us for even thinking that about ourselves, even though we might not have caused that problem upon ourselves because somebody told us maybe we're unworthy, or would tell us that we're stupid, or just, this, all those other negative words that we can say about ourselves. Then He can come in and He'll cleanse us of that and just forgive us. And we just hand it over to Him. And it gives an example here. It's like, you know how, um, when we do that, it's just like, kind of like when a policeman apprehends a, um, apprehends a suspect. So you're coming in and apprehending, you're like, your authority that you have in Jesus, you come in and apprehend that lie within your life. And it's like the suspect. And it takes, and Jesus will come and take it into captivity and remove it from you. So after that is done, and you hand that back over to Jesus, then we have to come and invite God's presence into that area of our lives. In Galatians, um, I thought that verse was right in front of me. I should have that been memorized. I know it so well. All good. It's all good. So give me a second. Galatians 2:20 says, "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave himself for me." And also in actually, I like reading that in the Passion Translation better. I understand it better. That's I'm going to, huh, have it. Everything. Yes. So give me a second here. I will scroll until I find my Passion Translation for comparison. It's down here. It used to be the babble up. I could quickly put it right at the top, but now it's at the bottom of my list because it starts with T. Okay. My older Denny has been crucified with Christ and no longer lives. Now the essence of his new life is no longer mine. Of, for the Anointed One lives His life through me. We live in union as one. My new life is empowered by the faith of the Son of God. He loves me so much that He gave Himself for me, dispensing His life into mine. So this is just one way you can invite the Holy Spirit to come into your life when you realize your identity of who you are in Christ and when He, how much He lives within you, He empowers you. So just inviting Him into that place. And so He can fill you up. And also in, um, Luke 4:18, let me switch over there. I had all these verses in my Bible when I left my Bible at home, so I had to find them. Each one. Next one says, "Okay, and the Spirit of God of the Lord is on me because He has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom from the prisoners, recovery of sight to the blind, and to set the oppressed free." So He is declaring freedom over us. He's setting us free from all the bondages that He, we've had. So He comes, we can now, He can come in and now be free within our lives. So that area that we have handed over to Jesus no longer has any right and to live in our lives anymore. So we, He is now allowed to, Holy Spirit is now allowed to come into that place and to reign and rule in that area. And when that happens, Jesus promises to bring the Comforter, the Holy Spirit comes in and comforts in our hearts and transforms our minds. And also in Galatians, not Galatians, Romans 12:1 and 2, He talks about us renewing. He comes in and renews our minds. It's an act of worship in which our minds are changed into His presence. We need to come into His presence and healing. And He fills us up. He heals that area within our lives. He fills us up with His love and His joy and His peace. He just comes in and fills that area up in our lives that was a lie, had been, had been. He comes in and heals that area. And after that, we, the fifth step is to make His kingdom, make kingdom declarations. We need to come in agreement with the truth, which is the word of God, and the power of His words. Now, me, flip this over here. In, in Ephesians 1:11, it says, "In Christ we find out we are who we are and what we are living, living for." So that's this, um, and also in Hebrews, um, 4:12, "For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any double-edged sword. It penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart." So the word of God is living, active. He, He comes into our lives and He's sharp. He's like a double-edged sword. And the word of God is like, kind of like when the surgeon comes in and scrapes parts off around your heart, parts of stuff that's not supposed to be there. He comes in and cuts that junk out of your, out of your life. Like one time, I was kind of in heaven, an encounter with the Holy Spirit there, and I could just feel like He was like chiseling parts off of my heart that were, like, corroded and had stuff on it. It's not, it's not what it's supposed to be. He just came in with His scalpel. And it, it wasn't painful. Well, just felt like He's scraping it off so I could be more like Him and I can shine and radiate more like Him. So that's part of declaring the kingdom. It exposes the darkness and brings life into those areas so you can flourish and thrive more. It's also important to speak and declare the word of God over yourself. So just more you have the word of God in your life, the more you can declare it and speak it out and just declare those areas in your life that you can have freedom in, those areas and have liberty and just setting those areas free that we're in bondage. Before I kind of want to end with, um, reading Ephesians. This is kind of like a little bit of a prayer over you from Ephesians 3, uh, 16-19. And it reads here, "I pray that out of His glorious riches you may be strengthened with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the Lord's holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know that His love that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God." Are you ready, Trina? Or should I share something else? I was want to share. You're good. You're good. Are you done? Yeah, I'm done. All right. All right. [Music] All righty. Hey, need you need your sec, need your [Music] speakers. How many do we have on? Seven. Okay. This thing's loose. Should I use the other one? Yeah, this one's not loose like that. All right. So thank you so much, Tina. That was awesome. Um, we also have, um, Craig Miller. We're going to put some of more of his stuff out there. He was here for the weekend. And, um, we're going to have maybe Kelly, um, eventually here, share some testimony. How to pray when healing doesn't happen. You know, and help people to understand a little more. It's a guide and advanced training for mind, body healing. Um, and then we have also, um, a couple other books that we can recommend. There's some, some ideas that you can do for healing. We also have a, a friend who has a ministry called Voice Ministries out of, uh, Fortson, Georgia. And then Bear Creek Ministries, out of White, Georgia. And, um, some of the homework that we're going to have you do is listen to some videos from Tim Ma, who, um, he's speaking on, um, about demonization and demons. And also his wife, Katie, is, we have a video about unforgiveness and the power of unforgiveness. So it's not about, we're not focusing on people being demonized. We, we want to focus on seeing people get whole. We want to focus on seeing people find wholeness. And as they find more wholeness, they understand who they really are in Christ. That's the goal. You know, I know that when I was walking this process out, some people would say, "Try, you're just focused on on demons." And it's like, you know, sometimes I probably was, you know, but when you experience such an amazing, uh, testimony, you, you want other people to be free. And so you talk about the things that affect your life. And, you know, and, and sometimes you have an ability to see things, but you don't know how to explain, and you don't know how to help other people. And so sometimes we still talk through woundedness, you know, and, um, just give you, you know, I have, I had the tendency when I first was getting set free and walking some of this out, I would do it in a wrong way, you know, and I think it did hurt some people, you know. One of the, one of the things I wanted to talk to you about was Mark 1, or Mark 5:1-8. And, um, let me bring that up here. And this is about the, the demonized man. Mark, where's Mark? So I'm going to read this in NIV. "They went across the lake to the region of the Gerasenes. And when Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons off of his feet. Irons off of his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. Night and day among the tombs and in the hills, he would cry out and cut himself with stones. When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him. He shouted at the top of his voice, 'What do you want with me, Son of Jesus, Son of Son of the, the Most High God? In God's name, don't torture me!' For Jesus had said to him, 'Come out of this man, you impure spirit.' Then Jesus asked him, 'What is your name?' 'My name is Legion,' he replied, 'for we are many.' And he begged Jesus again and again not to send them out of the area. A large herd of pigs were feeding on the nearby hillside. The demons begged Jesus, 'Send us among the pigs; allow us to go into them.' He gave them permission, and the impure spirits came out and went into the pigs. I heard of about 2,000 in number rushed down the steep bank into the lake and were drowned. Those tending to the pigs ran off and reported to the town and countryside, and the people went out to see what had happened. When they came to see Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons sitting there, dressed and in his right mind, and they were afraid. Those who had seen it told the people what had happened to the demon-possessed man and told about the pigs as well. Then the people began to plead with Jesus to leave the region. As Jesus was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon-possessed begged to go with him. And Jesus did not let him, but said, 'Go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you and how He has had mercy on you.' So the man went away and began to tell in Decapolis how much Jesus had done for him, and all the people were amazed." So let's dig this apart a little bit. So the man has an evil spirit, or you would think maybe just one. And so demons are highly intelligent. They are, we think they're stupid, but they're really smart, you know. And they'll lay and wait to an opportune time. And, and, and it's just not fair, you know. It isn't, because they catch us off guard all the time. So how foolish are we to think that, you know, this demon, you know, we think that this demon. Why would the demon bring the man to Jesus if they know that Jesus is powerful and can send them out? What if the man wasn't possessed by demon, and the demons didn't have full control of him? But most time, they probably did. But in this moment, this man comes running to Jesus. He comes to Jesus, and he has a coming to Jesus moment. You know, the demons, if they were fully in control, they would have chased him as far away from Jesus as possible to keep him from becoming free. And they would still have a home to be carried in, because they can't just run around and, um, they have to find a place, you know. So if you think about this, the next thing is, consider the fact that the demons knew who Jesus was. And, and they said, when they saw Jesus at a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of Jesus. So this man had some ability to come to Jesus. It is clear, and even in the level of demonization, he had control over his own body. And, and in this, um, what I've been reading about, it says it's a coming to Jesus moment. And a lot of us have a coming to Jesus moment that gets rid of the things that have been driving us. So the ministries that I have been around, most of them believe that you cannot remove some, a demon from someone who is not willing to be delivered. And so we need to know that the person is willing to participate in the, in the deliverance. We don't want to deliver someone that doesn't really want deliverance, or think that they don't need it. We don't want to, they just don't want to do that. Because if they're not willing to, um, to stay filled with the Holy Spirit, I believe that the demonic can come back. So then in Acts 10, oops, let's go to Acts 10, um, 38. See, this was John preaching, and he said, "How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how He went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with Him. We are witnesses of everything He did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem." Let's see here, um, I guess it's mainly just 38. You know, "God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how He went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with Him." So as God is with us, we have the ability to allow God to use us to help other people get set free. You, you know, Jesus tells the disciples, He sends them out two by two, and He says, "Go heal the sick, cast out demons, raise the dead, and set at liberty the captives." I love in John, or not John, it's Luke 18. And this, this is like one of my favorite scriptures. I think it's Luke 18, 18:10. Um, no, not 18:10. Let's see, 18:22, maybe? Let's see. It's the [Music] scripture. No, um, Luke, when the disciples come back, 10:18. Then Luke 10:18, sorry, I get some scriptures mixed up. Yeah, this is Luke 10:18. So Jesus sends them out, and there's 72 that He sent out. And, uh, and so as they come back, I love this. "The 72 returned with joy and said, 'Lord, even the demons submit to us in Your name.'" The power that Jesus sent them with, the power and authority of His name. And Jesus said, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy. Nothing will harm you. Nothing will harm you." You know, a lot of times we emphasize, you know, some of the other scriptures. However, "Do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven." Like, that's the key is making sure that you have a relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, knowing that you are in right alignment with God before you do any of this. Because the enemy will come back, and he will attack, attack you. You know, the sons of Sceva are an example of that, where they did not have the relationship with Jesus. You know, and Jesus tells, says, "You know, depart from me." There's another scripture where Jesus says, um, says, "Jesus, we healed in Your name." And He says, "Depart from me, because I don't know you." Like, it's important about the relationship. The relationship is everything. We need to have the relationship with God. And out of that relationship, the power and authority of Jesus Christ flows through us with the Holy Spirit. We have the ability within us. We have the keys to hell in our hands because Jesus lives inside of us. So I wanted to share with you, what time do I have? Is it 4? Oh, wow. We got time. Okay. So I wanted to share with you some examples of some of the demonic that we've encountered. So I'm going to go with, uh, Jezebel. Okay. So a lot of people have heard about Jezebel, and a lot of people are afraid of Jezebel, you know. And if you look at the story of Jezebel in the Bible, Elijah was afraid of her. Like, literally. Well, that's a person. And the spirit is similar, but that was the person Jezebel. We're talking about a spirit. And a spirit, spirits can be regional. They can be over countries, they can be over cities, they can be just over households, I believe that. And what I've felt like I've been taught is that if we go out into the streets, and the more people get delivered and set free in the streets, the less control that a spiritual regional demonic manifestation can happen. Because if there's something regional over our city, as I, I go and minister, and I go and see people accept Jesus, get delivered, and start walking out wholeness, and start then serving God, that is one less hold that that demonic principality has over that city. And so the more and more you get free, the less and less control. Because the enemy only has power and control because we've given it to him. And what I read in, um, which one was it? Matthew, I know, um, [Music] in which one was it? I think it was in Luke 4. It was before the 18:19. I was reading about how Satan had taken Jesus up to the high place and to the temple. And the enemy himself, Satan himself, says that that the power had been given to him, that they had given it to him. So what if the worm or or the snake in Genesis, what if the only reason he becomes the dragon in Revelation is because we fed him? And we have allowed the lies of the enemy to reign and rule in our life. And as we allow him to reign and rule in our life, we give him power and authority, and he gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So as we take the power and authority back, and we allow the, the understanding of who we are in Christ to rise up in us, we become more like what Jesus is saying here. "The 72 returned with joy and said, 'Lord, even the demons submit to us in Your name.'" He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy." How much power? Some. All. And nothing, nothing will harm you. Like, I'm not taunting the enemy, I'm just saying I know who I am in Christ. The hope of all glory lives inside of me. So Jezebel, there's a lot of fear attached to that. So Elijah was so afraid of him, afraid of her, that he walked in disobedience to God. And a lot of people don't realize that. Do I have my Bible? It's in my yellow bag. Can you, yeah, right there. Yeah, hold on one second. I'll take the water too. Sweet. Yeah, I don't always know what I'm going to teach on, but I feel like this is really important to understand the power that has destroyed people's paths. Um, it's in First Kings 9. I think that's Solomon. First Kings 19. All right, it's First Kings 19. And, um, so Elijah just got done. And we'll go back to First Kings 18. This is really good. Okay, down in 38. Elijah is, he is full of boldness, he is full of confidence and courage. And he goes again because I think he just saw God show up in rain and, you know, and he saw the power of God. And he, he even got translated. You know, he actually ended up ahead of the chariot. You know, and I just think it's awesome, you know. So he had this momentum going. And so in, in First Kings 18, we're going to go, we're going to go up to 18:18. That's a good number. So I love this. He says, "Now summon the people from all over Israel to meet me on Mount Carmel and bring the 450 prophets of Baal and the 400 prophets of Asherah who eat at Jezebel's table." So Ahab sent word throughout all of Israel and assembled the prophets on Mount Carmel. And Elijah went before the people and said, "This, this is important because I feel like we're right there in this area right now." Elijah went before the people and said, "How long will you waver between the two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow Him. But if Baal is God, follow him." But the people said nothing. What does that sound like us right now? Oh, man. Yeah. So if you go down to 38, let's see, um, let's go to 36. "At the time of sacrifice, the Prophet Elijah stepped forward and prayed, 'Oh, Lord, God of Abraham, Isaac and Israel, let it be known today that You are God in Israel, and that I am Your servant and have done all these things at Your command. Answer me, O Lord, answer me, so that these people will know that You, O Lord, are God and that You are turning their hearts back again.'" That's power. Wow. "Then the fire of the Lord fell and burned up the sacrifice, the wood, the stones and the soil, and also licked up the water in the trench. When all the people saw this, they fell prostrate and cried, 'The Lord, He is God! The Lord, He is God!'" Oh, man, that's amazing. You know, and then Elijah took and had them all seized, all the prophets of Baal, and had them killed. "Don't let any of them get away," he said. That was power. Like, have you ever seen a fire that consumed wood? Yeah, we've done that. How about stone? Like, you know, I'm sure that if fire is hot enough, it could probably lap up all the water too, you know. But stone, like, I've never seen fire consume stone. That is power. Like God showed up to turn, hit the hearts of His people back to Him. But they got to such a place that they couldn't even answer Elijah when he asked them what side were they going to be on, you know. They were fence-sitters, you know. And so He shows up. So He has this momentum. He has this momentum. And all of a sudden, the power of the Lord came upon Elijah and took. Wait a minute. One on a second. Let's see. Oh, wow. That happened before the rain. Ah, I learned something today. Wow, wow. I thought that. I apologize. So he didn't have the momentum going into this, but the momentum of this took him into really believing for the rain to come. That's even more powerful. Wow. So then the rain came. And then down in 40, 46, "The power of the Lord came upon Elijah and tucking his cloak into his belt, he ran ahead of Ahab all the way to Jezreel." Wow. I was going to say, man, even ran to. Wow. Sorry. He ran to Jezreel. Yeah. "The power of the Lord came upon Elijah and tucking his cloak into his belt, he ran ahead of Ahab all the way to Jezreel." Wow. That's powerful. So then, um, there's a, there's a moment here when Jezebel speaks, and and everything that he has been doing, he flees. Okay. Now, in 19, "Now Ahab told Jezebel everything Elijah had done and how he had killed all the prophets with the sword. So Jezebel sent a messenger to Elijah to say, 'May the gods deal with me, be it ever so severely, if by this time tomorrow I do not make your life like that of one of them.' So Elijah was afraid and ran for his life. When he came to Beersheba in Judah, he left his servants there, while he himself went a day's journey into the desert." So he, he ran off. And while he's in this place, yeah, let's read this rest of this. This is really good. "The Lord appears to Elijah and He said, and the word of the Lord came to him, 'What are you doing here, Elijah?'" That's a bad day. He replied, "I have been very zealous for the Lord God Almighty. The Israelites have rejected Your covenant, broken down Your altars, and put Your prophets to death with a sword, and I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too." Wow. Well, you know what? I'm just reading that. Wow. He's, he replied, "I have been zealous for the Lord God Almighty. The Israelites have rejected Your covenant, broken down Your altars." Yeah, I agree with that. And put Your prophets to death. Okay, okay, gotcha. All right. So then it says, "The Lord said, 'Go out and stand on the mountain in the presence of the Lord, for the Lord is about to pass by.' Then a Great and Powerful wind tore the mountains apart." Man, can you imagine that? That'd be crazy. Can you imagine standing up here on this mountain, like the mountain you just passed, Kelly? Can you imagine God just ripping that mountain off? Oh, man, that would be crazy. "Like He ripped the mountains apart and shattered the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind. After the wind there was an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake. And after the earthquake came a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire. And after the fire came a gentle whisper." When Elijah heard it, he pulled his cloak over his face and went out and stood at the mouth of the cave. Then the voice said to him, "What are you doing here, Elijah?" He replied, "I have been very zealous for the Lord God Almighty. The Israelites have rejected Your covenant, broken down Your altars, and put Your prophets to death with the sword. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too." We had to tell Him twice. Wow. That's even crazier that Elijah had to tell God twice. "The Lord said to him, 'Go back the way you came and go to the desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram. Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel. And anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet.'" And so, I love this part. When God says two things simultaneously in two different scriptures back to back, it is really important to pay attention. So He says, "Jehu will put to death anyone who escapes the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death anyone who escapes the sword of Jehu. Yet I reserve 7,000 in Israel—all those whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and all whose mouths have not kissed him." So what does Elisha do? So Elisha went from there and found Elijah. So Elijah went from there and found Elisha, son of Shaphat. Oh, wait a minute. Did he miss something? So he had fear that was beyond measure, dread, maybe. And he had such a fear that he, he went and anointed the third one. He missed the other two. I think he saw an end to his pain. I think he saw an end to his fear. And so this is really important. So he went right to Elisha. He was so, Elisha was plowing the fields with 12 yoke of oxen, and he himself was driving the 12th pair. Elijah went up to him and threw his cloak around him. Elisha then left his oxen and ran after Elijah. "Let me kiss my father and mother goodbye," he said, "and then I will come with you." "Go back," Elijah replied, "What have I done to you? What have I done to you?" So picture this. You're plowing a field with 12 yoke of oxen, and you're minding your own business, you're doing what, what you feel that you, you need to do. And all of a sudden, this cloak comes flying around your neck. And he didn't turn around and say, "What the, what are you doing?" He must have known that it was a spirit of God. What if it was the mantle that Elijah carried? That when he put it around his neck, he knew that it was God? What if it was an instantaneously anointing that fell upon him? So this is why I feel, and I feel like the reason why Elijah had a problem with it was, I think he knew that one thing. I think he knew that he made a mistake and he didn't do what he was called to do. And now he's called to raise up this young man to take his place. And if you're afraid, how, what do you think that you just did to this young man? This young man's going to take your place. And you, you've had years of experience. This young man doesn't. Like, there's going to be a lot of fear in what, what you just did to somebody. And I think he was gripped with so much fear that he's like, "Oh my gosh, what did I do to you?" Like, "Go back, go back." Like, God's like, "Oh no, we're not. Nope, you can't change this. No." So Elisha left him and went back. And he took his yoke of oxen and he slaughtered them. He burned the plow equipment to cook the meat and he gave it to the people, and they, they ate. Then he set out to follow Elijah and became his attendant. So Elisha was so touched by God that he burned the plow, and he wasn't going back to working in the fields anymore. And he celebrated, and he had everyone eat all the meat, you know, of all the oxen. Like, man. So, you know, I'm, I'm sure the family probably wasn't happy about that. They lost their oxen, they lost their plow. Who's going to plow the field now? You know, we think we got problems. Like, you know, I don't know what he encountered. So we're going to fast forward, and we're going to go up to Elisha. Second Kings 9. And the reason I just really feel like I need to share this because the spirit of fear, it grips people so hard. And, and we don't realize that. I think it can even come on you from somebody else, you know. And so, all right, it's in Second Kings 9. "The prophet Elisha anointed a man from the company of prophets and said to him, 'Tuck your cloak into your belt, take the flask of oil with you and go to Ramoth Gilead.'" And before I finish that, let me go back here a second. Um, Elisha does go and anoint Hazael, and it's somewhere in here, but that he didn't have a problem going in anointing him. Um, it's somewhere in between those two scriptures. But anyway, this is the part that he doesn't go and anoint Jehu. He sends an unknown prophet. And, and so as he sends this unknown prophet, he says, "When you get there, look for Jehu son of Jehoshaphat, the son of Nimshi. Go to him, get him away from from his company, and take him into an inner room. Then take the flask and pour the oil on his head and declare, 'This is what the Lord says: I anoint you king over Israel.' Then open the door and run, and do not delay. Run, forest, run!" Is there fear? Do you think there's fear? Like, I really believe that. And he says, "Tuck your cloak." You know, does the cloak say that you're a prophet? Maybe. Does the cloak tell people who you are? And so this gets really interesting. So the young man, the prophet, went to, um, went there, and he, he arrives, and he found the army officers sitting together. "I have a message for you, Commander," he said. So I, I was searching one day, and I'm like, "Why is he, why is Elisha and Elijah so afraid of Jehu?" And did you know that Jehu is a commander and chief of Ahab's army? That's probably why. That would be scary if you don't like, if you're afraid of Jezebel, you're probably going to be afraid of him. So he says, "I have a message for you." And for which of you? "For you, Commander," he replied. Jehu got up and went into the house. Then the prophet poured the oil on Jehu's head and declared, "This is what the Lord, the God of Israel says: I anoint you king over the Lord's people Israel. You are to destroy the house of Ahab your master, and I will avenge the blood of my servants the prophets and the blood of all the Lord's servants shed by Jezebel. The whole house of Ahab will perish. I will cut off from Ahab every last male in Israel, slave or free. I will make the house of Ahab like the house of Jeroboam son of Nebat and like the house of Baasha son of Ahijah. As for Jezebel, dogs will devour her on the plot of ground at Jezreel and no one will bury her." Then he opened the door and ran. But so Elisha didn't tell him to say all that. But the prophet hears the word of the Lord, and He speaks what Jehu is going to do. He called forth the greatness in Jehu. Fear or not. He called forth the greatness, and that allowed him to know what he was going to do and who he was called to be. So that would be a little scary for Jehu to step into, because you're just going to kill your boss. That's a bad day too, you know. So then it goes down here, and, um, "When Jehu went out to his fellow officers, one of them asked, 'Is everything all right? Why did this mad man come to you?'" You know the man, you know the man and the sort of things he says. Jehu replied, "That's not true." He said, "They said, 'Tell us.'" Jehu said, "Here is what he told me: 'This is what the Lord says: I anoint you king over Israel.'" They hurried and took their cloaks and spread them under him on the bare steps. Then they blew the trumpets and shouted, "Jehu is king!" Instantly, transformation. The word of the Lord. They knew the power of the Lord. They didn't have fear. They took the word of the Lord and they put action with the word of the Lord, and it happened. It's so amazing that, like, I just love this whole thing because, you know, um, if you go over to, um, 32, "He looked up at the window and called out, 'Who is on my side?'" So just Jehu doesn't do anything to Jezebel. He looks at the people that are up in the window tending to her, the eunuchs. He says, "He looked up at the window and called out, 'Who is on my side?'" "Two or three eunuchs looked down at him." "Throw her down, Jehu," they said. So they threw her down, and some of her blood splattered the wall and the horses as they trampled her underfoot. So the people who were controlled by Jezebel threw her down. Now I know why I was reading that. The people who have been controlled by the spirits throw the spirits down. We are to throw what hinders us, what encumbers us, what binds us, what keeps us powerless. We throw it down. The eunuchs were powerless. They were stripped of their manly duties. They were castrated. How many times do we feel powerless because of something that's around us, in us, or through us? As we become powerful in Christ, we cast those things down. Wow, wow. Oh, this is good. And then the horses, like, trample it. The horses trample it. This is so good. "Jehu went out and ate and drank. He went, celebrated. 'Take care of that cursed woman,' he said, 'and bury her, for she was a king's daughter.' But when they came out to bury her, they found nothing except her skull, her feet and her hands." They went back and told Jehu. Who, who said, "This is the word of the Lord that He spoke through that His servant Elijah the Tishbite." Wow. So this is even powerful too. So, you know how we always say that the spirit of Elijah is coming? It's not that Elijah's coming back. What if it is the spirit that they knew they saw in Elijah, which is the spirit of God? The spirit that drove Elijah, the spirit that was with Elijah and Elisha. So this spirit that this unknown prophet was carrying is the.

Same spirit of God that Elijah had, but that he gives Elijah credit. He thought it was Elijah. Are we training up this generation that's in front of us in such a way that they think that it's us? And I'm not saying about making cookie-cutter or molded cookies, but that we're so known by the presence of God that we raise other people up to be about the presence of God, and they're mistaken because they all blend together because they're doing the thing that God called them to do. Oh, that's good.

"Wallow on the plot of ground at Jezreel. Dogs will devour Jezebel's flesh, and Jezebel's body will be like refuse on the ground in the plot of Jezreel, so that no one will be able to say, 'This is Jezebel.'" She's done. She's put away. She's destroyed. She's killed.

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So, wow, I am just undone. I am so undone. That scripture about Jezebel, like, throw her down. Like, we're called to throw her down, and we're called to throw all the spirits that are not of God down. So, I feel that the church has a misunderstanding. Not everybody, but a lot of the church has a misunderstanding of Jezebel. So, a lot of people have been, a lot of women have been accused of having a Jezebel spirit. And I'm not saying that they do or don't, but instead of throwing people out of the church, we're called to clean them up and help them. But if we have a misunderstanding of deliverance, if we have a misunderstanding of how to help people, we're not going to want them around us.

So, I really believe that a lot of people, a lot of women who have been hurt by the church, may or may not have the spirit of Jezebel in them. And if you think about this, so Jezebel, a spirit of Jezebel has five controlling spirits. Okay? They're all control-driven. There's a control-driven sex spirit. So, have you ever seen someone that walks in a room, and man or woman, all your eyes go to that person? It's crazy because you know, you're busy talking, and all of a sudden, your eyes are just taken to this person. It's not the person, it's a spirit. It's a spirit that's controlling this person. It's a spirit that's driving this person, and it's usually like, "Come to me, come to me, come to me."

So then you have the control-driven fear. So, have you ever seen, like, if you take a cookie sheet, and, you know, the air-baked one where there's no sides on it, and try to put marbles on there, and you try to keep the marbles on there? You can't control that. You cannot. Like, you're trying to protect those marbles. Oh, dang, what did you, what happened over there? You're fine. It's just a screen. Okay. See, I'm gonna cast the spirit out of that thing too. Go. Oh, man. It's a, yeah, wow. So anyway, the TV disc went completely off. Sorry, we have an interruption.

So anyway, so if you have this air-baked cookie sheet and you have marbles in there, and you're trying to keep these marbles on, and you're trying everything to keep them, and you're actually building a chimney around these marbles to protect them, and it's you protecting them, not trusting God to protect them. I know a lot of the air-baked cookie sheets got a little bump in the top, and there's no way to keep those marbles on there. I don't know what you do with that. But anyway, you're creating this chimney that is nothing but an entrance to the demonic because it's not you trusting God, it's you doing it yourself. So it opens a door to the demonic. And it, and it's, you may not be afraid if you carry this spirit, but everyone around you has fear of you.

And so then you have the control-driven martyr. Have you ever had an aunt, or you know, usually an aunt, and it's like, "Honey, look what I do for you, and what do you do for me?" And they put that guilt trip on you. Oh, yeah. And they just like, it hooks you. That's a martyr. So, um, and it's almost like, you know what? I'm going to die. It's, this, I'm going to do this until it kills me, and I know you're still not going to give me anything in return, but I'm just gonna, just do this until it kills me. It's a martyr.

So then they have the control-driven, um, pleaser. So, pleaser is, um, so there's kindness, and then there's, what's the other word? Not kindness. It's, um, means, um, can't, there's another word for it. There's, there's two kinds of pleasing. Like, like the thing that's behind it. Like, there's, you can be kind, nice, nice, nice. Is it so nice? Nice has an agenda. I'm nice to you so that you do something for me. Kind means I am kind to you for whatever I need to be kind to you for, with no agenda behind it. So, so the, and it's a, it's a pleasing spirit, but it's a control-driven pleasing spirit, and it's like a pleaser on steroids, you know? Um, so it's like, um, have you ever seen where, where someone, they're like, anal about pleasing you? They want to do everything, and they want to help you, they want to do this, they want to do that, and it's just like nauseating. And people are like, "What did you do to that person?" Like, "I didn't do nothing to that person. I don't know why they want to do everything for me." You know? And they don't do it for anything but they want love. That the person, the woman that has that spirit, has such a hunger and unworthiness. They want to be loved. That's all they want is love.

So, I have this friend who had been delivered of the pleasing, the control-driven pleasure spirit, which is different than a pleasure spirit. So, the control-driven pleasure spirit, she had this, and she went home, and her middle son jumped up in her lap, and she felt love for the first time. These spirits, they're twofold. They isolate the woman from being loved, and then they isolate the people from being loved by that person. It's evil. It is nothing but evil. And it's not the person, it's a spirit.

And so then you have, um, control-driven anger. Have you ever heard about people going postal? So, um, I have this friend that they have a testimony, and they, they got the lady delivered of the control-driven anger, and they said, "You know, she's like, I'm not an angry person." They said, "Okay, I trust you. A lot of times, you're not going to feel the anger, but everyone else is going to think you're angry." So they said, "Well, just do this. Go into your work tomorrow and don't tell them you were a deliverance session. You know, just tell them that you're just taking a survey. And it's like, 'Hey, what do you think of me? You know, what do you give? Can you give me some ideas of what I'm like? You know, I'm just taking a survey.'" And so no one really played the game too much, and they were afraid to tell her what they thought. And this one lady says, "Well, if I could be honest with you." Not like she was honest with them anyway. And she, you know, that's a scary thing when people say, "Well, if I could be honest with you." Like, "Well, why wouldn't you want to be honest with me?" And I'm scared to even know what that is going to be. So she, she says, "Well," she said, "we make sure the turner is in the copier. We make sure the coffee is filled. We make sure that this and that, and everything is just perfect for you." And she's like, "Why?" She said, "Well, we just know you're about ready to go off. It's like a volcano about ready to erupt, but it never does." That's not really fun.

So, um, so you have five. It's the pleaser, it's the anger, the fear, the sex, and the martyr. And so all five of these. So this woman, woman has such a call on her life that the enemy takes five controlling spirits, at least, to hold her back from being where she's called to.

So, we also have, we do this color code thing that I, I'm going to put this out there for you guys. You can do a free one, and you can get the first color. Friends of Wars at Bear Creek do this, and I love what they're doing. It's a personality test, and it's white is, um, peace. Yellow is joy and love. Blue is, uh, or wait a minute. Yellow is joy and fun. Blue is love and intimacy. And red is power. And it's characteristics of God. And so you can take this test. And when I originally took this test, I was a white, yellow. And they couldn't believe that I was a white, yellow. But you're supposed to take this test back to the way that you were as a child. Well, what I could remember of a child, I took it as much as I could remember, and I was a timid little girl who was afraid of confrontation. I was, I, I was always, I had fear. I was, if you would ask me a question, I wouldn't know how to answer it. I probably would have gave you a blank look and be like, "Uh, can you please go away?" So I get some people that I'm around that I push sometimes, and they, they don't, they can't even think. It's like it's blank, and they take, they have to take time to process. And yellow is so when I would be pushed, um, or if I was afraid, I would jump into the yellow and I would go have fun and push that away. And so the white also has this, "Whatever" box. And I used to tell my mom, "Whatever." And she's like, "If you put that hand up one more time, I'm going to break it." Cuz I would tell her like, you know what, "Whatever, Mom." Like, "No, whatever, whatever." I don't want to hear. "La la la la la." You don't want to hear stuff. So some people have a big dump truck, that's a "whatever" dump truck, you know, and they just put everything in there and they forget about it and they don't want to deal with it. So I had a "whatever" box. So I just, I'm like, "That was me. Like, that was so me."

So for five years, I walked in that, trying to be that white, yellow personality, trying to go after wholeness because a white can walk in peace. And so if you walk in peace, everywhere I walk, I carry the peace of God. When I'm whole, when you're not whole, you don't necessarily carry the peace. You carry, carry stubbornness, you carry, uh, fear of confrontation. You know, there's a lot of negative things about a white personality too. And so then the yellow personality is likes to have fun, but they also are a little, they don't really, an unhealthy one will like not really care about people's feelings too. There's a lot of negative things. Like, um, I'll get you some information. But one of the things with the Jezebel spirit, I've been noticing is, what if? And these are what if questions. So, what if a church? What if the enemy doesn't allow a church to see a person who has a red personality, the red characteristics of power, in a Jezebel spirit? What if the enemy doesn't allow the church leadership to see those controlling spirits, but allows the congregation to see it? And have you ever been in a church where the leadership doesn't see these negative characteristics or negative spirits coming off of a certain person on leadership, but you see it and you're like, "How can they not see it?" Like, "Oh my gosh, she's like a rip." You know? And with leadership doesn't see it, it's not the person, it's the spirit affecting the congregation, causing a divide between the people and the leadership, but the leadership does not see it.

So have you ever seen where somebody is all about fun, or they could be about peace, they could be about fun, or they could be about love, and they get thrown out of the church? They get accused of things, and they, they, they didn't do it. Like they weren't, they had no agenda, but the leadership sees that they have this agenda and they're like, "I don't know what you're talking about. Like, I didn't cause that." You know? And, and so I feel like the enemy doesn't want love, doesn't want peace, and doesn't want joy in the church at all. And so a lot of those women end up getting thrown out of the church instead of getting delivered and healed and helped to walk out wholeness. A lot of them get thrown out on their ear. Oh my gosh. All right, we're back.

So, and this, the blue is about intimacy and love. Love. Um, and I love these characteristics. Um, when a healed person walks in love and intimacy, they're relational. They want to know the people. They're really good pastors. They really, um, they care about the flock. They care about shepherding people. They care about people's emotions. They want to see people get whole and healthy. Um, they're very relational with God and with people. Um, someone with joy, you know, the yellow is they love to have fun and they want other people to have fun. A lot of times they're the people that will actually help you go get things set in motion too. They will actually be your entertainment. They will be the life of the party. They will, they will help bring fun into your fold. Um, there's a lot of other things that yellows can do. Whites will bring peace. So whites are bridge builders. They can bring, where there's division, they can bring peace between people and groups. They, when they walk in a room, they just know how to bring peace into an area. Um, reds, they are very powerful. They have power. They know, um, they know how to control things. They know how to bring, um, they know how to get things done. You know? And there's a lot of different. I'll send you some information about them, but they all have negative qualities.

And so the goal of what it is, is to take the test. It's $40 to take the test if you want to get the whole, the whole information. But if you don't take the, if you don't do the paid part, you can do the free part, and it gives you the first one, it gives you the main one that you operate in. But I wanted to share with you, I went five years trying to operate, because I am, I'm hungry. I want, I want to get healed. And I, and I knew as a child, I had that white personality, and I want to walk in the wholeness of that white because I want to carry peace. You know? And they said that a white, yellow can be a great business leader because you bring the peace in, and then you know how to have fun. And when you blend them, you can bring peace and have fun at the same time. And a lot of people want to have fun and walk in peace because they want to be around you. If you carry peace, they can be walking in turmoil in their life, and they walk around you. It's like, there's something about you that every time I'm around you, I feel like I have this peace that you carry. I feel this peace. Like it's the peace of God, you know? And the goal is really to be able to be all things to all people. So you can actually learn how to talk to someone who has a blue personality, even if you're white. You learn how they listen, or how they learn, and you can adapt to them. And it's not changing who you are, it's just helping them to be who they're called to be. And you read out, and you love them where they are. And I, I feel like this personality test really can help you find some of the negative qualities and go after those negative qualities and flip them and make them positive. You know, like, um, a white, and this was me, I hated confrontation. And I'm still not the best at it, but the positive on that side is confronting in love, learning how to confront in a right way, and not running from confrontation, and not, you know, putting that in my "whatever" box anymore.

You know, so I got healed of a fracture. I had a fractured personality. And it was when I was little, there was something that happened that I pushed that thing deep, deep, deep. And I shoved the little girl who I was in a pit because I was afraid that she would get me in trouble. And she was yellow. And so, you know, somewhere in my life, I must have realized that a yellow girl in my family would probably get killed, you know, if I would have acted like my brother. And I actually have a sister that she probably lived by the skin of her teeth some days, you know, because she was a rascal and she liked to have fun all the time, and she lived by having fun. And so I, I took this test after I got that wholeness. I was the first time I was willing to take this test again. And when I took the test again, I was yellow, red. Well, I was always as a white, I was always afraid of people with red. An unhealthy red would squash me. And I just, I did. I would avoid that personality. And I believe that God didn't allow me to know that it was in me until I could handle it, you know, and allowed me to, because I would have hated half of myself. You know, would have been like a battle of hell and earth, you know, like, "You get over there now. You get over there." Just being funny. But I'm learning that if I blend the two, I could have fun, and I can bring the power to get things done. And I'm learning not to run over people. I know that I have a tendency to run over people. I have a tendency to throw people out of the boat. And sometimes I do it, probably in a wrong way, but I'm learning how to lead them and not pull them. You know, someone told me one day, they said, "You know, Jesus never threw anybody out of the boat. He drew them out of the boat." And I'm like, "Huh, yeah, he did." But on the other hand, is I can't imagine what it was like for the disciples the first time they went out by themselves, two by two, not even with a change of clothes. I'm thinking Jesus did push them a little bit, though. Yeah, yeah.

So, but there's also, there's the spirit of Ahab. You know, Ahab is someone who, he usually has a crooked crown, you know, because he's always known that he was special, but never was able to find that place to carry the power and authority that was in him. And as he gets delivered of that, and really knows his identity in Christ, he was always made to be royalty, and he was always made to be a king. And so he, when he's whole, he operates in a kingly role, and he knows it because it's in him.

Let's see. There's a spirit of Hinderer. Have you ever been where something's just dangled in front of you like a carrot, and just lead you, and you never can attain it, but you just, that dream is always in front of you, but you never can grab it, you never can get a hold of it? That's a hinder spirit. You can have. And know, in that same spectrum, there's restrictor, there's shredder, there's, there's all kinds, you know, there's just different kinds of spirits that will try to steal, kill, and destroy you. You know, all of them are made to steal, kill, and destroy. Most of what the enemy's plan is, is not to kill you, because if he kills you, then he can't harm you anymore. He can't allow his spirits to reign and ruin you anymore. So he really wants you to make you feel like you want to be dead. But he, you know, have you ever seen people where, and I never thought about this until I was talking to somebody about it, and, you know, I had someone try to commit suicide, and in the last minute, you know, they were pulled out of that pit of hell. And my friend, he said, "Well, you know, the enemy doesn't really want to kill you. He just wants to dangle you over the pit and make you feel like you want to die." So he keeps you in that place of, like a yo-yo, and constantly just destroying your life, but not destroying you completely, but making you go completely to the brink of death, death, and then bringing you back. I'm like, "Oh my gosh, that is torment. That's nothing but destroying you." Wow.

So, my testimony is amazing, but I feel like I want to share. I want some other people to share. If I have a question. Oh, what you got a question? How will you know what spirit it is? There are so many. Is it only by asking the Holy Spirit? Yes, only by the Holy Spirit. And the biggest thing is, when you see a characteristic of a spirit that may not be the ruling spirit, and you do not want to cast it out. The only way you want to do this kind of deliverance is if you have a team, and you can do it with less than, you know, you can do it for two or three. It's a witness of two or three within you. So when you're sitting on the team, you ask the Holy Spirit, "Holy Spirit, I need you to show me." And it's a witness, two or three. So I might hear "Destroyer." So I just throw it back up to God. "All right, God, is this you?" And, and you know, and you get that witness of it's "Destroyer," and you get that again, and you throw it up, and you like, you might get a whole bunch of things. You're like, "All right." And each one, you throw it back up, and you just write it down. And the way we do it is a witness of two or three within the group. So it's a witness of two or three within you, and then it's a witness of two, two or three around you. And when you get that witness, that's when you want to throw it out. It's not what you know in that person. You don't want to do anything in a person that you know of. You want, and every time I do it with people that I know, I say, "God, I need to know without a doubt this is you." And so I want to know something that I don't know. And every time he comes through, and he shows, he shows us almost always it's like an anonymous or anonymous. All the people in the team have the same one, and the other people don't know that person. You know? And because I don't want to call anybody anything if I am not sure that it's God, and I don't want to call it out if it's not the ruling spirit and make everything else. Because if it's a ruling spirit, it's the first spirit that came into them. And the kingdom of hell is hierarchy, just like the kingdom of heaven. And that first spirit, no matter how little you think it is, it's powerful. The demons, when they, when you throw them out, they go out and they search for a dry place, and they search for someone else to enter. And when they find someone else to enter, they become, it's a function. So the demons are a function, they're not a name. So if that spirit left me, the Destroyer spirit, when it's cast out of me, and it goes and looks for somebody else out there somewhere, and it can come into somebody else, but it may be a Jezebel, or maybe an Ahab. And they're not gender-specific. They're shape-shifters, and they become whatever they need to become to destroy the other person's life. And so we send them as far as the east is from the west, and we send them usually away from where that person lives. And then we fill the person up so that they're full of the Holy Spirit so it can't come back into them. Does that answer the question? Who asked it? Summer? Was that good? She said yes. Okay. Anybody else have any other questions? Did this help? Was this helpful? Yes. Kelly is helpful. How about Jenna? Was it helpful? Was that Laura? Is it helpful? Okay.

So, um, Kelly, do you want to share your testimony? Or not a testimony? Testimony. Testimony. Yeah, if you want. We, something transpired that, you know, that it's gone, like when you got delivered, or even this weekend. Something from Hess. Sure, sure. I'll share about this weekend. It's fresh in my mind. And, you know, uh, something that, you know, you said you'll list the resources in that, so maybe, you know, those who weren't there could maybe get the resources for it. But, um, Craig Miller came, and he was talking about breakthrough prayer, and especially if you have had recurring issues and you don't seem to be able to receive healing for it, it could be an emotional healing or physical healing or anything. And he first asked the group, "What issue are you having trouble with?" And it was, it could be, like I said, physical or emotional. And then he said, "Call out some, some emotion type things that could cause blockages or that you seem to be, you feel you're struggling with." So it was things like anger, shame, rejection, these different things. But then there was people that had physical ailments. And we did see healing for a lady who, who came through a lot. She had a lot of trouble with her ears. She had, I don't know how many, I can't remember, she had like 10 operations on her ears, and they were still, she couldn't hear, and they were ringing. But anyway, I said, uh, rejection. And so he showed us the process he uses, and he's a Christian psychologist and counselor, and he had his own business with like 10 counselors under him. He's quote retired now. He's an older gentleman. And he retired. He said, "This is so much easier. I can see people and walk you through these steps and be delivered like that." And we saw it time after time in front of us with those. And I was one of them. He said, "Are you willing to, can I use you as a demonstration?" I said, "Sure." So he asked the questions. I don't have my card right, it's at work because I'm sharing with someone. But he gave us little pointers, and you know, he kind of expanded on it. But he said, "How long have you been feeling this?" Whether it's a feeling, an emotion, or a physical thing, "How long have you had this?" So that tells them, like, remember when this first started. So he said to me, with rejection, "Do you know when that first started?" And I said, "Yes, from the womb." Because I know my mom got pregnant out of wedlock, and, uh, my biological father didn't want any part of it, wasn't ready to settle down and get married, whatever. And her F, my mom's family said, "Well, you know, you need to get either have an adoption or get an abortion. This is unsafe families because it will bring shame on the family." So right there, there was this turmoil, this rejection from the womb. And we know now, you know, how babies can feel anxiety and different things going on in the mom's body. So, you know, Mom had told me these stories, so I knew. And then later in church, one time, I was told the Holy Spirit told me to go lay on the floor, and then somebody came and prayed for me and broke off rejection from the womb, but yet it was still there. So then he said, "Is there any other time?" And I said, "Yep, there was a time in fifth grade where there was something that happened in class, and the teacher kind of made fun of me, and everybody looked at me and kind of mocked me, and I felt rejection." And then, you know, another one was my husband left, and we divorced, and he left me because I was a Christian. And so there was these things. He goes, "Okay, so there's a pattern there. There's still a root to that." So, and help me if I'm getting anything wrong, Trina and Tina Jack. So then he said, "You need to, you need to think of someone in your life who is a safe person for you." He said, "It could be, usually not your parents because if you're dealing with childhood issues, they're kind of involved." So for me, it was my grandma. He said, "You know, sometimes it's an aunt, sometimes it's a spouse." So I said, "My grandma was always a safe person." So he said, "I want you to go back to those times, just visualize in your mind." And it was just real quick. Visualize Jesus there with you, and visualize your safe person there with you. So he had me do that. And he just said, "Now, what does that look like?" And I, you know, from the womb, it looked like God was there with me because otherwise I never would have been born. And it looked like Grandma, who was happy that she was going to have another grandchild. So then, you know, same with the fifth grade thing. And that one was funny. He said, "Picture Jesus with you and Grandma." He said, "Where are they?" And I said, "Jesus has one hand, I'm standing up in the classroom. Grandma has the other hand." And he goes, "Are they saying anything?" And I said, "My grandma saying, 'Point your finger, don't make me get my Irish up.'" And that was a saying she used to have, like, "Don't make me come after anybody," to the teacher who was mocking me. And then it was like, okay. And then was a release. And then he's like, "Now, now you know, like, what do you feel?" I think he said. And I said, "Oh, I just feel so happy. I feel light." You know? And sometimes you'll see something. Someone else said, "Oh, I see myself like running through a field of daisies." And so he did that for those things. And, and then it just broke off. It broke off. And oh, and he also, you know, would explain, "Do you understand that's not who you are?" And any of those negative things coming in, any negative thoughts, negative emotions, negative phrases, you know, "You're no good," or "I'm stupid," or anything. Go, "You're smart people, right?" Because right, we're all have the spirit of God in us. We have the mind of Christ. We are smart. So we know anything negative, that's the enemy. It's not of God. But the good things, you know, "I am the righteousness of Christ. I'm seated with him. I'm made in his image." Those are the good things of God. And those are the things we need to grab a hold of by Holy Spirit, have him impart to us to believe. And those things happened in that minute. And I really just felt Holy Spirit wash over me. And I just felt such joy and laughter. I think I was laying on the floor laughing. And I could tell you, you know, and I felt so much better, lighter, all of those things. But even the next day, driving home, because I live five and a half hours away, and the next day driving home, it was like there was this bubble of joy in my car as I was driving home. And I always listen to worship music in my car, but this was different. It was fresh. It was new. It was stronger. I felt empowered. I felt empowered like I had authority over those things. They're gone. They're under my feet. They're washed away. And it, you know, that's not who I am anymore. So it was really good. He's got books out there. They're great. And he gives you different ways, teaches you how to walk through it for yourself and for other people. So it was a wonderful resource, a wonderful conference. And thank you guys for holding that. I think Jenna said she would share something then. While, hey Jenna, do you want to share? Can you hear me? What? Yes. Okay. Thanks, Kelly, for sharing. And actually, some of the stuff that you were doing on Saturday, when I was listening to you, it resonated a lot with my life. It was really kind of interesting, some kind of mirroring. I didn't get to do all of the stuff on Saturday, but I definitely am interested in doing more of the stuff out of Craig's book. For, um, so I went through Bear Creek. I was actually looking back to my phone to see when it was. It was actually, it'll be two years this month when I went through the first part of their deliverance. And then I think you have to wait like 90 days, and then you can go back. I think there's, is there three parts, Trina? There's at least three parts of it. So I've done two. I definitely think it helped me clearly. You know, everything has a purpose to it, and we can learn from it. I definitely, it made sense of some things that I had no idea that I was carrying, and I couldn't figure out why I was having some of the struggles I was having. And, but one of the things when I went back for the second part, there was somebody there that was talking about how their spouse had gone through, but they had not. And for three months, it was absolutely horrid afterwards between the two of them because one who went through was one way, and the other one was still operating out of where they were. That still really resonates with me because, and this is not to discourage anybody to go after wholeness, I'm just a very honest person that my spouse has not gone through any of this. And between that and my young one being at an age over the last two years where I think it's been hitting some things that I don't really remember consciously, but it seems to really hit hard places for me. I have had some pretty hard struggles over the last couple years. But I also see God show up. My, but then I feel like I get pulled back. Some of the stuff that Trina was kind of talking about, like sometimes that I feel like I get pulled back, and then I'll feel shame and guilt when I fall short or I make a mistake, or I have this overwhelming amount of just feeling angry, or whatever, almost enraged sometimes. It was interesting this morning. I woke up, and today it actually would be, it was nine years ago what turned out to be my last day of official work, but I didn't know. Only God knew. Only God knew that was coming. I had no idea. And actually, when I woke up this morning, and I, for I don't even know what time I woke up, I was laying in bed and I like couldn't fall back asleep. And I thought, "Well, I got to get up. I got to take care of my horse and stuff anyway." And I got up, and the whole sky behind our house looked like, all I heard was "Freedom fire," and it just looked like it was on fire everywhere behind the house, just in this way. And I'm like, "Okay, it's been nine years, and I've gone through lots of deliverance, even before Bear Creek. I've gone through a lot of things." You know, what did we hear the other week, even in class, when the husband and wife were there, and what were they saying? "I see this crown of authority of peace." And a lot of times I don't feel at peace. And I've heard my husband say that, "Why is there always all this chaos and like drama and all this?" And I'm thinking, and lately the thing has been like, "Is it me? Or like what Trina was saying, when you come in places and you can feel so deep, or is it other people around me sometimes that I'm feeling?" Because sometimes I feel like I want to close in, but it's not the same as when I isolated myself before I went through deliverance, when I was in that bad place, and I was still in work, and things were really hard. And Trina, what you were saying too, even about the way the enemy does things, the torment is better than having somebody out and gone. It really, for the darkness, it is like that because I went through that for quite a while, and it was this back and forth and back and forth. And I'm like, "I don't, you know, I don't feel like that. I want to really have joy and I want to have peace in my life. Like, what is that? Why is that happening?" And I think the thing that I found really interesting about Craig's stuff that I want to do more is a lot of that stuff when he was talking about, it's things that aren't even hard. I heard a lot of stuff like that growing up, people talking about suicide and and like threatening, threatening the fear to put fear in other people. "I'm gonna go do this and I'm gonna do that, and that's what's gonna happen." You know? And I was thinking about all the different things that I would hear as a kid. But then at the same time, I was thinking about the good stuff, and like thinking that God wants to have a child-like faith. And I'm like, "Okay, well, was I like as a kid? When I go off by myself, and I was determined to do something, I push myself so hard, and I would feel joy about it because I would get determined, and then I would conquer the thing, and I'd get better at it and better at it. But then as I got older, I started veering off into places of seeking out love. But it's not that I have some love, but then there was chaos around it at the same time. So I'm like, "What was that? Why was I seeking all that over there, thinking it was better somewhere else?" But it's interesting because it is a complete journey. Like right now, I keep seeing God just show up and he's like, "Just, just stay with me. Stay with me." See Trina, you know, I P, Trina, you know, we had talked around, she texted me about these classes, and I almost didn't do it because I was feeling very overwhelmed with all this newness of moving and everything's in flux. And I guess at the age of my son, like things going on, and he looks a lot like me. So I think what happens a lot of times is I'm like, "What went on when I was that age?" But what was happening around me that I start to feel that way? Because it's not really him, but it's like the mirror to push to see. And to be able to turn back and go, "Okay, God, how do I get it out?" And so I don't, I hope that nothing I'm saying sounds discouraging because it shouldn't be. It is completely a journey. And I believe that this stuff comes out. I was really wishing I would have been there to be able to see it. Just gave me even more, you know, what, just keep walking through this stuff. It's not, you know, when you feel that way. So it's like, there's other things. I'm like, and I do feel things so deep sometimes. I'm like, "Why do people try?" People started popping in my head, and I started doing more research, and I start finding out that there was like other family members, young family members of theirs, that have passed away in the last like couple years, different very hard things. And I'm like, "Wow, okay, what is that about?" You know, like, "Why was that on my mind? Where is that coming from?" I mean, to talk to these people for years. Things people are immersed in. And I'm like, "Are you bringing, you know, like, where's, where is this coming from? Is the Lord bringing it to my mind for me to pray about it? What is it?" And I think that's one of the things that, I guess it'd be more of even a question maybe for you, Trina. How do you know that you don't pick things back up after you go through the? I know you have to keep fresh info, and we need to. But I said one thing, if you're in a marriage, in a covenant marriage, you know, it's a godly marriage, but one has gone through a lot of deliverance and one hasn't. Do you even pick things back up from your own spouse? And I'm not talking about blaming them for things. I'm saying like, you know, and I don't want to have fear, but are you picking stuff? Can a person pick stuff back up from their spouse? From their kids? The same people in their household if they're trying to walk it out one way?

Well, a lot of times, that's could be a wholeness issue. You know, there's, if we're, if we feel like we're picking it, it could be two things. It could be a wholeness issue where we need to go after the lies that, what are we believing? So no matter what anybody around us acts or reacts, we need to learn how to not let them push our buttons. And so the demons are only maintenance workers to the wound that you have. The wound, the wound in your spirit. And as that thing starts to get healed, less and less things bother it. You know? And so, I don't know, from Bear Creek, they did the stair-step thing. Do you remember that? I can send you a copy of it again. It was, it was, you have your book, okay? And so, yeah, so what they teach you is like, it's a stair-step. And so you have fear up here on the stair-step, and you have a crisis moment. And usually a crisis moment will push you off that stair. And when you, most people won't deal with something until they have a crisis. So you won't deal with something until you're pushed. Love you. And then, then there's a moment of promotion and breakthrough. And so when you, when you're pushed to that point where you got to deal with it, and you, after that level of wholeness, you have a greater level of breakthrough. And so then you go. And sometimes it's quick, and sometimes it could be years. Sometimes it depends on how quick you're willing to go through your wholeness. But as you walk through it, so then it could be a time where you try to build the ladder back up, and you want to go back to that old place. And it's like, God will take the ladder out from underneath of you, and then you feel like you fall back down. So you're trying to get closer and closer to, which Bear Creek says it's death, because it's death to self. You know? And as you tumble down these steps, it's really a promotion because it's closer to God that you're getting because you're getting this stuff out. You know, going after the lies. It's, I see him. It's identify the lie, confess the lie. So you identify what lie you're believing, and then you would, you confess the lie to Jesus and say, "You."

Know, so say for instance, I believe the lie that I, I'm afraid. So I, I will say, "Jesus, I confess that I believe the lie. I, I have fear." And so then you would hand it over to Jesus. You hand the fear over to him. So if you visualize him and you hand it over, and you let him take that fear from you, or that lie that you believe about yourself, that "I'm afraid." And so then you ask the Holy Spirit to come in. It's just, just got to just take a few minutes, man. If you got to go to the bathroom, if you're working, or or get away from company, you know, just go to the bathroom. You know, if it takes a little longer, say, "You know what? Hey, I needed a few more minutes in there." You know, don't qu in there for a while though. You know, just spray some smelly stuff, they'll think you had to take the number two or something, you know, you had to get rid of the enemy, you know, he smelled like sulfur. No, just kidding, just teasing.

So you, you confess the lie. You ask the Holy Spirit to come into that place because this is where a lot of ministries don't go after revelation. So a lot of times they'll have you declare something, but if you're declaring something without the Spirit of God, what do you have? You have knowledge. You do not have the revelation. So we need the revelation of God to come into this place and heal your heart where that wound was. So where that fear was, you'd say, "Holy Spirit, you just come into this place and heal my heart. Come, Holy Spirit, just, you know, wrap, wrap your arms around me, Father God, you know." And just allow the Holy Spirit to come into that place.

And so once you allow the Holy Spirit to come into that place, then you ask God to give you truth. So you make it so it's, um, I, I is identify the lie. C is confess the lie to Jesus. E is you hand it over to Jesus. Um, um, W is I see him. H is and then I is you invite the Holy Spirit in. Thank you. There. And then M is you make declarations. So you ask the Father, "Father, um, give me truth about what I, what I should believe." And so when he gives you something true, then you make a declaration about that because that was through the Holy Spirit. So when you invite the Holy Spirit into it, that gets out the lie and brings truth. And you can only do that with the Holy Spirit. So that piece, a lot of ministries skip that because they don't really understand that you can't do something without revelation. I can't change without God helping me change. You know, Kelly can tell me everything in the world about what I need to change, but until the Holy Spirit gives me revelation about it and convicts my heart, I can't do anything. And that's what a lot of people don't realize is, you know, we want to point the fingers at everybody. And and, um, I love this. This is awesome.

So in John, John 11, um, I just told this guy the other day about this scripture, and he's like, "I don't know about that." And I said, "Well, will you go read it?" Because I mess with this paradigm. It's, um, this is the spiritual blindness. So Jesus, in John 9:35, he had just healed a blind man. And he says, "Jesus heard that they had thrown him out." And they throwed the blind man out of the synagogue. And when he found him, he said, "Do you believe in the Son of Man?" And he says, "Who is he, sir, that I may believe in him?" So Jesus said, "You have now seen him, and in fact, he is the one who is speaking with you." And then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him. So he worshiped Jesus. And Jesus said, "For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind will see and those who see will become blind." Wow, that's crazy.

So it gets even more interesting. So the Pharisees who were with him heard him say that. And he asked, "What are you saying? We are blind too?" I bet Jesus was laughing inside. He said, he said, "If you were blind, you would not be guilty of your sin." Oh, but now that you claim that you can see, your guilt will remain." Wow. So we want to accuse people of their sin when, when we don't even know where they are with God. And I really believe that if they are, if their eyes have never been opened to know the one true Living God, they're not responsible for their sin as far as God is. Now, they're responsible from for law, you know, and they, they're held accountable to our, your culture, but not, not to God. So, so, you know, we, we call all these heathens, heathens. But really, we're pointing fingers at somebody that we should be loving and helping to pull out gold in them so that they can be touched by the Holy Spirit, so they can be convicted by the Holy Spirit, instead of being condemned by what we say. So if somebody is walking beside us and they've not been delivered, we should find a way to, to not condemn them too. And I don't know what that looks like. I'm not married, so I don't know how to be married to somebody. You know, and I may or may not wish that on myself. I think there's good days and bad days when you're married. So does that help? Yes, I think so. Sweet. And I'm not wanting to blame. I think that's the big, yeahs. You know, so I'll ask. And the thing is, I'm quick to look for that conviction. If he's, if that's what I need from him, it's wanting to make sure that it's not, um, it's not like some shame and guilt. And the biggest thing is taking things. And that's why the stuff that Craig was doing on Saturday was very interesting to me because I'm like, are there things that I'm holding still or stuff that's coming up now deeper that I, because he's also so kind and loving that he doesn't just flood us with all this stuff until he knows we're ready to handle it. You know, like, we're not just going to get bombarded with to the point that it's gonna just take us down. I, the enemy will try to do that in a way. Yes, because he wants to hurt us and destroy. God doesn't do that. You know, will as that none shall perish. So, I mean, yeah, he sees, you know, he's come after me and convicted me. And I have stories of that where I knew it was him because even the tears I cried, there might have been pain attached, but then there was joy attached to the freedom that came of recognizing. And there is no more guilt. Even if the memory comes back to that thing, I've heard that too. You can have a memory, but it won't, um, you won't feel bad about it anymore. The same way. It's an arrogant thing. It's a, "Yep, that really happened." And, "Yep, I made a mistake." Or, "You know, I was operating, like you said, in a way that I didn't understand then, but now I understand it. So I'm not gonna go back and do that thing again because I recognize what, what was going." Yeah.

Well, we have the teaching from Friday night, which is all audio from from Craig. And he did it in such an amazing way that he took like seven hours into 45 minutes, and it was fantastic. Um, so we're going to take that. We're going to create a video out of that. We're also, um, I'm going to have time, I think tonight and tomorrow, to work on, um, the videos from Saturday. And I want to try to get them out and make them a required video for everybody that they need to watch Craig's stuff. And I really want to encourage you to watch Amanda's stuff too. Um, you know, and the biggest thing is God. You know, and the biggest prayer that you can pray is, "God, search my heart and remove anything that is not of you. Anything that's keeping me from being intimate with you." Those kind of crazy prayers. You know, "God, I don't want anything to stop me from being able to be who I'm called to be, to do what you want me to do in my life." Because I really do believe that we have a call on this Earth. That I have a call that Kelly can't do. I have a call that Tina can't do. But, you know, Jeff, you have a call that neither of us can do. Like, we all have something special to do. And I feel like God's heart breaks time after time because as children, um, I feel like it's from leadership. It's not about the people that are not walking in leadership, but I feel like this is important as being leaders in your own life and in, in where you are, is helping those around you to find, find their voice, to find their destiny, to find vision, to help them walk out their dreams, and to help give them wings to soar. And, and the biggest thing is when I have an issue, I need to go after it with God. And I shared this with Tina the other night. And, and I, I don't want to cause any fear with this, but this, take this back to God. What if today God showed you something that was wrong inside of you? And, and you choose to be afraid to deal with it? And that night, the enemy takes you out, and you're no longer on this Earth because of the thing that you didn't want to deal with? Because the enemy has a foothold in that place that we don't want to deal with. And then he grabs, he doesn't have just a toehold or foothold, he, he comes into us. And I believe that when we don't deal with the wholeness issues, um, I know there's a lot of places say that the demons can't come back. But I think in disobedience to God, and when God's tapping on you, "Hey, will you work on this?" And we like, push it aside, it becomes hardened. You know, and, and that hardness keeps us from hearing who, what God wants us to do, and keeps us from being where we're called to be. You know, and I think in, in that, if we're, so say for instance, um, God, God wants to heal my heart. And, and because I'm not allowing him to do something in my heart that needs to be done, I'm not hearing him correctly or hearing him enough to keep me out of the path of a car coming. You know, it may be stupid, but if I'm, if there's something blocking me, if, let me back it up, if, if God's trying to heal me and I shove that back down, what if it causes a hardness to, to me hearing God clearly? And in that, I push it back down and I'm like, "I'll deal with that later. I'll deal with that later." God, I'll deal with that later. I'm scared. Like, that hurts, whatever the reason is. And what if it keeps me from hearing him correctly? And it keeps me out of the path of an oncoming car, or keeps me out of the path of where there's a shooting, or whatever it looks like. But what if we're not hearing correctly because disobedience causes a hardness in your, your heart? And disobedience is not wanting to deal with that thing that he's bringing it to the surface. You know, and, and we're all, I mean, I'm a walk, I'm, I'm walking it out. I'm not, I have not arrived. And I'm still probably in a place where sometimes I don't walk it completely out. And if, if there's a pastor out there that says that they got it right, and I don't know if I'd want to stand beside of them because, you know, the lightning will strike and it could, you know, maybe miss him and hit me. You know, I don't think none of us have arrived. We're all work in progress. And so on that note, I, I'm gonna have, um, Jeff come up and share a testimony. Right? Want to move my Bible? No, I'll, there you go.

So back in August, T and I took a trip down to Voice Ministries. Yeah, Voice Ministries. Thank you. I was trying to figure out what the title of it was. And, uh, I had no idea what I was getting myself into. And which is even knowing where I was at to actually doing this was a pretty much a big bold step in the first place because going in into the unknown. And it was a, what kind of conference was it, Trina? It was, it was a deliverance conference. Deliverance conference. Okay. A Pacific title. So, uh, we go into the church. And then, um, in it, they were going over some things that what they're going to go through with us. And in the after that, they get, um, they put some soft music on so we can have the Holy Spirit minister to us till they get to us into the room. And as the calming music was playing, all of a sudden these random thoughts just start coming pouring through my head. And I just cry out to Jesus, "Jesus, these, these images and everything, just need to be taken away. Okay, gone." Like, cool. Thank you. They just instantly just went away. Then a short moment later, they all came back again. And I cried out to Jesus, said, "These, these things are coming back again. Can you take them away?" He goes, "No, you can take them away. I've given you the authority to take them away." And, okay. And, and I just, you know, got them out of my head in Jesus' name. These, uh, thoughts, images out of my head now in Jesus' name. And boom, they were gone. And, and all of a sudden, I just look over and I see Jesus just smiling at me, you know, giving me the wink, thumbs up, "You can do this. You can do this, Jeff. You can do this." So little moments later, then they call my name. I go down into the room. And, uh, sitting in the hot seat. And the people are around me, you know, and the, this, some of this, what do you call it, like spirits, Trina? That they're looking for. Oh, the, yeah, the demons. Yeah. Okay. And, uh, demons, layers. Yeah, the demon layers around me. And some of the stuff I knew I had in me. And other stuff that they seen in me that the, when they described it, it's like, "Yeah." And as they were, as she was praying them out of me, I just seen the visions of these vines just disintegrating off. That she was calling them out of me. They were, they just lost all their foothold, all their grip that they had on me. They, they didn't fall off, they disintegrated. Also, and just the freedom from it, just was, it was an awesome experience. So, and knowing that that stuff is out of me, I can actually pick it up. So some of the people that are around, I can actually pick it up, sense it on them. Not that's not in me anymore, but I can sense it on them and go over, you know, just pray for them that they can get rid of it then too. And, um, anything else you want me to talk about there, Trina? No, that's good. You want to share there? Pass it off to your wife. Okay. Next.

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Okay, the same time that Jeff went down, I also went down with him because if I'm going through this, um, take him along with me so we can both be set free. So yes, he didn't know what he was getting into. That's because I'm like, "You're coming along with me, honey. I need something to drive anyway." Because I didn't want to drive what, 12 hours, 14 hours by myself. So, um, so it was interesting, you know, interesting experience. They kind of, you take it into that room and it was like, "Oh no, six, seven people around you." And they start, you like calling, um, they all kind of sit there and look at you like, "Okay, well, I can't see most of them." Someone came, walked around front to kind of look at from a different angles to see what they're seeing on you. And then when they got back together, they discussed what they each saw. And and then the person who was the leader would group it all together to see when there was like, I guess two or three at least in agreement, three, I think, in agreement, then they would call that as one of the spirits they called them off. So they called a couple of like four of them off of me. So, um, and then when she started to describe their spirits and what they did, and I'm like, "Uh, yeah. Um, yeah, I recognize that characteristic." I'm like, "Oh, yeah." She was like, "Yeah, does that sound familiar?" I'm like, "Yeah." So, so then when you get set free, it's like, "Wow, you just have this, you feel, you feel lighter and just like you want to go out and conquer the world, I guess." I don't know. But you, you can't. Yeah, you, I guess you can with Christ. You can't conquer the world, I guess. Um, so it's just about that freedom. And then they take you into another room. And, um, they like they pour the oil and the wine over you, kind of not literally, but they just kind of saturate more the Holy Spirit upon you. Jesus. Yeah, pour the wine of Jesus, the Holy Spirit upon you. And the oil kind of anoint you and just, and they pray over you. And they prayed over me. And they, one saw something that they kind of a wounded area in my life. There was kind of calling that out and just speaking life into that area. So then they, that was, that was also good because it kind of give you a little more freedom. And then this past weekend, we're having at Craig's conference. We conference here with Craig here. Um, I didn't really get prayer that day. But then we also had him in the car on Sunday. So he was like, I was asking him a couple questions. He's like, um, he's like, one was I was asking about sometimes I like to, you know, pick up my hair, pick, you know, pick up my skin, you know, pick up my fingernails. He's like, "CU, he's like, did somebody pick on you?" I'm like, "Well, well, my brother picked on me." So like, so he started walking me through going back over that and dealing that hurt of me. My brother was kind of, you know, a little older brother, he kind of picked at me, almost like bullying. So he called some stuff off and not really called it off, just went back to heal that area and just let Jesus have that problem. And he says, "Who has that problem?" "Do, do I have that problem?" "Like, no, I don't have that problem. Your brother has that problem." So he has the problem. So I gave it back to Jesus so Jesus can take care of that problem. And that Jesus take care of our brother. And it's not something I have to carry anymore. She's just walking in another like an area of wholeness, of place I had been wounded in the past and just bringing some more healing into my life. Is still making me coffee? Well, I put it in the refrigerator. Oh, she has to kill. There's a question. What's the question? I can't read it. Oh, is it Trina for me? For me? Here, I'll take. I have a question. Would you like? I'd like the voice to the group when available. Okay. Joanne. Yeah. Hi. Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Hey, beautiful friend. I think back in 2017, so that's about seven years ago. And my ruling spirit was Jezebel. And I laughed because I had been working on my C a long time. And I, since that's what I had. Um, something that confused me and others after we left, we went, we went as a group. We actually heard the staff there say, "You'll never have to deal with deliverance any world. Um, it's done. It's over with." So we left at the group thinking, "Are we're not going to have any more need for deliverance? Um, it's done. It's over with." And we all found out individually as time went went on that, no, there was still some demonic that we had to face and deal with. So is that something that you have heard? Yes. Yes, I have heard that also. Um, but one of the things that I've experienced was as I went after the wholeness, um, one of the things that I experienced was I had the fractured little girl. So it was a fractured personality, a fractured spirit. And in that fracture, there was a demonic, um, attachment to the fracture. And I feel like, um, sometimes those things, they're split out. And so the things that we haven't even dealt with that we didn't even know about, you know? And one of the things that they do mention is that they can only see what we're willing to allow them to see. So that could be some of it too, you know? Um, I, I struggled with, I had two different fractures. One was, um, when I was a little girl, and one was about a 12 or 13 year old girl. And, you know, and sometimes when we're so wounded, we push that thing aside. And we, we disassociate. I don't know if it's part of disassociated disorder. Well, you disassociate, that that thing doesn't even exist anymore. And so when God wants to bring you back into wholeness, I think there's a place where those things do have an attachment, or it could even be a trauma that gets healed and it had something attached to it too, you know? Um, yes, I do agree that it's, it should be once and done. But I also know that there's, you know, sometimes that, you know, things can can hide too, you know? The enemy is a good deceiver, you know, and he hides really well. Um, the biggest thing is going after wholeness. And a lot of it is a wholeness process. A lot of it is going after the lies, you know, dealing with the emotion that's stuck with the trauma, you know? I love Craig's information. Um, you know, I've been through Bear Creek. They have amazing deliverance ministry at incredible wholeness process. Um, you know, their wholeness is, um, they go after the wound and they help you see it, get healed. And so they talk about a little bit at the end of their deliverance. And the biggest thing is theirs is from a Friday afternoon to a Sunday afternoon. And it's a little pricey, but it's worth it because they teach you how to go after it. And, and Joanne, you went there. And so, you know, I think if, I think if they wouldn't have taught us some of the skill, some of the tools that we needed to go after it, I don't think we would have been able to survive, you know, when we found those things. You know, and then Voice Ministries is the same. They do believe that sometimes it's not that it comes back, but there's something else that comes to the surface. I think is more what it is. So I don't believe that it can come back. I do believe that some things we, we deal with come to the surface though. Does that help? It helps. It's just I was wondering if they are clarifying it better now because that was about seven years ago that I had attended those the prophetic deliverance and then a year later the Hess. And that theme was still there, still shared and spoken of that way. And, so the group that I was with, just time we would talk to each other and say, "Oh yeah, you know, I'm still going through. The Lord is still pulling up roots. And yeah, there's still some demonic depression I have to deal with." So we all concluded that, well, it's just not a one-time one thing. And I think there's layers. I think there's layers. Um, yeah. And a lot of it is wholeness. It seems like it's back, you know, but it's not. It's another layer. Like I do believe that they're maintenance workers. And so until that wound, till we allow God to really heal that wound, um, I always look at it as, so, um, Bear Creek goes after the, the negative core judgment that you believe from either birth or shortly after. And you went through that process too. And I feel like it's, you know, how do you ever watch some on the peanuts or, um, Charlie Brown? And it's the pigpen dude that has that cloud that he, everywhere he walks, he has this cloud around him. I feel like that negative core judgment that we believe about ourselves. So I believe that I was an inconvenience. So I think it followed me and it continued to make me believe and like reinforced that belief in me that I was an inconvenience. And it would allow me to get in situations where I was an inconvenience. And so I, you know, that caused trauma and caused woundedness, you know, caused more lies to be believed. And, you know, and it probably felt like a demon. But a lot of times, I don't believe it's demonic. It's just the lies that we got to, we got to get rid of that emotion that's attached to those traumas too. And, you know, I don't, I don't know why we have to go through all this. And, you know, and I know there's some ministers out there that don't believe in the wholeness process. And I totally get it. Um, you know, Jesus says it was finished on a cross. Why can't we get that? You know, why, why are we struggling with it? You know, and the thing that I, I come across or, or understand is, I think the more I allow God to hold, um, heal me from the inside out, the healthier I become spiritually, emotionally, physically. Um, and the, the better that I can be used and be a conduit to help others. And so I really feel like it's like, you know, with Peter and John and James and those guys, they were fresh, right? I mean, they were so close to Jesus, they walked beside him, they had like the whole enchilada, you know, they had Jesus and they had the power and authority straight from the source, you know, and, and it was so vibrant and so, um, so powerful, like they didn't have the woundedness, you know, like we do. Like whatever Jesus did for them, he can do for us. And I believe that we're, we're getting back to that place. And the more we allow God to heal us, I think the people that we touch won't have to do as much as we did because the power is flowing through us and it destroys the enemy in them. You know, and, and I think if, if the people that prayed for me had that power, I wouldn't had to walk out what I have to walk out. And I think that's the more, the more we understand our identity, the more we don't, I believe the more we will see other people not have to walk out what we walked out. And, and does that help? Yeah, I agree with you. The more we are healed and made like Jesus, the easier it will be for the for the Holy Spirit to us. Yeah. Min. Yeah.

I have, um, I have a couple things I want to end with. And I like a lot of people talk about, you know, it's about, um, it's about the cross, you know? And, and I want to, I want to share because I feel like it's both. Like it is about the cross. And, you know, um, two years ago, coming up here in in March or April, I had an encounter. I don't know if I shared this with you guys or not. I forget who I shared it with. I'm going to share this encounter and then I'm going to share some scriptures. And I feel like the more we grab a hold of who we are in Christ, the more we will see that it is finished in our life and in other people's lives. So in, um, so I, I should have, should have been killed in a car accident two years ago. And I know that God saved my life twice within a few minutes. And he saved me from eating the engine in the car in front of me. And, and it would have been my fault. You know, just, I'm going to take responsibility. You know, and so anyway, when I'm driving away, God asked me a question. And he said, "Did you finish, finish what you were called to?" I'm like, "No, I'm pretty sure no." You know? And, and I'm just like sweating low because I knew that I knew that he'd just saved my life. And, and, and so about a month later, I'm in Brazil. And he said, "Hey, I want you to grab your, your phone and your, your headset. And I want you to go down by the pool and I want you to spend time with me." And so he said, "Just listen to some good music, you know, some good worship music." And I go out in the spirit. And I'm laying there in the sun right by the pool where I love to be. And God takes me into this encounter. And in this encounter, I'm looking at this little girl out in the field. And she has little pigtails, probably about 12 years old. And she's looking up in the sky. And she sees, I see the, and I realize it's me. And I'm, and so I'm like looking at her. And then I'm all of a sudden in the body. And I'm looking up in the sky. And I see this eye in a cloud. And all these sun rays like beaming down across me. And felt this warmth. And it drew me up into heaven. And I'm like, "Wow." And, and as it's happening, I'm getting scripture. And he draws us into himself. And I'm like, "Wow, that's amazing." So I'm standing there in heaven. And all of a sudden, Jesus is on the cross behind me. Because there's no time or distance in the spirit. So I'm in the spirit. And, and whether in the body or out of the body, I don't know. I was just laying by the pool. So all of a sudden, I'm up on the cross. And in that moment, I think it was in that last second of Jesus's breath, I'm pulled up into the cross. And I'm in the cross. And I die with him. I didn't experience any of his pain. I died with him on the cross, like completely expired. They pull us off the cross. And they take us into the tomb. And they let lay us in the tomb. And I'm, I'm, I'm in Jesus. I'm in him. And, and he stands up. And I'm standing beside him after they roll the tomb shut. And, you know, they close the tomb. I'm standing beside him. And in that moment, um, we're in hell. Go to hell. And it's like, and I mean, it was hell. I mean, fire and smell. It was putrid and just horrible. And, and he, while we're standing there, it's like a few seconds. And, and as I'm standing there, he hands me a set of keys. And as he hands me a set of keys, when as soon as I grab a hold of that set of keys, it's like a gold ring with three, about two or three, um, skeleton keys on it. I grab a hold of that set of keys. And we're back in the tomb. And instantly, I, I thought I was by myself. I'm standing there. And he's not there with me. And I realize that Jesus is in me now. And I'm like, "Whoa, he's in me." And I'm, I'm, I'm just undone. And I look in my hand. And, and I realize that I wasn't alone. Because at first I thought I was alone. And a little scary, you know, in that dark tomb. And, and I'm in my tomb. And I had these keys that that Adam lost. And mind that Jesus gave him back. He gave the keys of my own life that I have in my hand now. And I walk over and I know that I can unlock the tomb. And as I unlock the tomb, this brilliance of light opens up. And, and I walk out in it. So warm and so peaceful and so, oh my gosh, it was just amazing. Like you can't even put words with what I encountered. And as I step out, I see the Father running, running towards me. And I start running towards him. And it's the prodigal. And it's like, "Wow." Like, and he grabs me and he twirls me around. And we're just twirling around in circles. And I feel this love that I never want to see go. Like I was, I knew that I was always created for that moment. That moment in time, man. I can understand why people don't want to come back when you try to resurrect them. Oh, hell no. No, no, no. Like when you feel that presence, I can't even put in words what I felt. Like I knew that I knew it was real. And so he, he puts on this robe of righteousness. And, and he puts on his shoes of peace. And he, and I'm looking at his eyes. And, and there's just this brilliant, brilliant, I can't even fathom until you explain what I saw because there's no words. And, and he puts on this ring on my finger as I'm looking up in his eyes. And it says identity. And, and, and as I look at this ring, I, it's like I, I knew who I was. I knew who I was always created to be. His daughter, his most beloved daughter. And if I would have died in that moment, I would have been just elated because I just, I would have accomplished everything to be in his arms. And I saw me seal a document. I saw a raised seal, kind of like the old days. And, and took the ring. And it, I sealed this document with. And I decreed my destiny. And I sealed my destiny. And as I sealed my destiny, I knew that I had a choice to come back or stay. And I chose to come back. I had a conversation with the Father, but I don't remember what it was. And I don't think I'm supposed to know what that was. But I had a choice to come back or stay. And I chose to come back. And so as I unfolded that, the next couple of days, my friend who was the translator, she was staying with me, she said, "I am so glad you did not die." Like, "I would have, I would not, wouldn't have known what to do if you died on that on that chair by the pool that day." And I'm like, "Man, that would have been an awesome place to die." You know? And, but if y'all would have blamed it on COVID, I would have come back and haunted you. Mhm. Yeah. And so, um, because they're not in the doing an autopsy to find out why he died. You know, maybe I just got knocked out of here. And so, but, you know, over the next couple weeks, God started talking to me. And he showed me that the day that I had, that I would have had that accident, he knew the yes in my heart. And he knew that I would come back to finish what I was called to. And I'm like, "Wow." So I knew, or I know that that day when he saved me from that car accident, if I would have had a no in my heart, I would have probably been killed in that car accident. The ministry would have been destroyed because it was my fault. And no one would have remembered anything that Trina had done except that she killed some people. That's what I would have been remembered as. And if you think about it, like some of the revivalists that don't end well, everyone remembers how they ended, but they don't remember what they did. You know, and they don't remember how they went south right before they ended their life. And, and so he was showing me that. And, and so these, he, he's given me some scriptures over the last couple years. I just feel like I want to share these with you because I feel like there's keys. There's keys to understand who we are in Christ. And I feel like we're starting to evolve in that in such a great magnitude. And what if we are a generation that's going to walk in something that no other generation has ever done? And what if it's a generation that we get to walk in that all the other generations are longing for us to finish well? And so in Isaiah 7, um, it's a sign of Emmanuel. And it's, it says, um, let me see here. Fine. It's down in 14. He said, "Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel, which is God With Us. He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right." But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right. So important scriptures. God duplicates one after another. There's something significant there. But how many times do we look over that stuff and never even think about it? So, but before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid to waste. God was trying to show them a time. And, and there was going to happen. And, and God was going to bring a, a sign. And it's when he was going to bring Jesus. Jesus. And, um, so Jesus would eat curds and honey before he knew enough to reject the wrong and choose the right. Curds is an intoxicating power. So I believe that, you know, just like he did with, with Emmanuel, he gives us curds and honey to help us know how to reject the wrong and, and choose the right. And so then I'm going to go back to Daniel. And this is Daniel 7 also. Seven. And this is when Daniel has the dream. And, you know, I think a lot of people say that this is end time stuff. But what if it's more than just that? Let me find where I want to read it. Um, let's see here. Okay, um, we're going to go up, go down to eight. Seven, eight, actually. Yeah, 7:8. And it says, "While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them, and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. The horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully." And this, that part, you know, I don't understand everything. And I'm not gonna try to explain something that I don't fully understand. I have some ideas about that. But, and that's not why I'm reading this. This is why I'm reading it. As I looked, thrones were set in place and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was white as snow, the hair on his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and his wheels were all ablaze. Who does that sound like? God Almighty. A river of fire was flowing, coming from from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him, and 10,000 times 10,000 stood before him. The court was seated and the books were opened. So Daniel saw in the future. Then I continued to watch before the boastful words of the horn was speaking. And I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time. In my vision at night, I looked and there before me was one like the man, son of man, one like the Son of Man, coming with the clouds of heaven. Wow. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory, and sovereign power. All peoples, nations, and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed. Who is that? Jesus. What if that was in the moment when Jesus took the keys back from hell, when he overcame the cross, overcame death, was resurrected? What if when he said on the cross, "It was finished"? What if it was finished? So then down in 18, it said, "But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever, yes, forever and ever." So if he saw in the future, what if, if he saw the cross and Christ on the cross and Christ overcoming that? So then I want to go back to 12. So this is John. So John's talking about what had already happened. What if this is not end time stuff? What if this is really a, a revelation of Jesus Christ's life? It's revelation. It's not, it doesn't say end times. It's revelation. So, um, and it's very similar. Like the, the stuff that they talk about is very similar. And, and I'm not an expert, okay? But I just, I want to plant seeds of questions of going back and asking God, "What does this mean? And what are you saying?" And so it says, "A great and." So I'll share with you what drew me to this. So actually, when I was for 18 years when I was in a, a church where I served well and, and tried to be the little good Christian, um, and the heathen at the same time, um, they talked about end time stuff and how, you know, um, the Rapture theory and all that. And, you know, I don't know what it is. I know I get raptured every day in Christ. So, um, so when I, so in 2007, when I really got raptured in Christ and really started to come into knowing who I was, God wouldn't let me read Revelation back in 2020. Is the first time that he allowed me to really dive into Revelation again. And so one day, I, I, I kept hearing my friend Edy talking all the time. And she always says, "They overcame, and they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives so much, um, as they would shrink from death." So she would say this scripture all the time from Death, Revelation, um, 12:11. So she would say that all the time. But one day I was, um, I, I was reading this. And it says, so I, I felt like I needed to go read it for myself when, you know, what she said. And I, and this, this caught my eye. 12:12, "Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them." And I'm like, "Oh, we, we are seated at the right hand of the Father with Jesus. So we are the right hand of the Father with Jesus. We are seated in heavenly places. We reign and rule with Christ." In John 17, we are one with the Father, or one with Jesus, as he's one with the Father. And, and he, and he's always telling us that if you know the Father, you know me, as in Jesus was saying this. So if, if we really understand who Jesus is and who lives in us, would know that we represent not just Jesus, not just the Holy Spirit, but the Father. So it got my brain like, so I'm going to read 12. Okay. It says, "A great and wondrous sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of 12 stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth." Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and 10 horns and seven crowns on its head. His tail swept, this is what gets me, his tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky. Who took a third of the angels with him? Hm. Makes you want to go and flung them to Earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth so that he might devour her child the moment it was born. Who was waiting for Jesus to be born? The enemy tried to devour him, but couldn't find him. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who would rule all nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. The, the, the woman fled into the desert. They went into the desert. Joseph had a dream that they went into the desert. They went into Egypt. They went into the desert to a place prepared for her by God where this, where she might be taken care of for 1260 days. I don't know what all that means, okay? And there was a war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon.

And the dragon and his angels fought back, but he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. They were thrown out of Heaven. Satan was cast out of heaven. The Great Dragon was hurled down, and the ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray, who leads the world astray, not God. Satan, yes, leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the Earth, and his angels with him.

Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say, "Now have come the salvation." This is important. "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, for the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down. They we overcome by the blood of the Lamb because of what Jesus did and the word of their testimony." So the power of our testimony, the power of Jesus, his testimony is a spirit of prophecy. Oh, it makes things happen. It, it is forthtelling and foretelling. They did not love their lives so much to shrink back from death. Fear of dying was not in their vocabulary. Therefore, rejoice, you heavens, and you who dwell in them. But woe to the earth and the sea because the devil has gone down to you. He is filled with fury because he knows that his time is short.

When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the Earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle so that she might fly to a place prepared for her in the desert, where she would be taken care of for a time, times, and half times, out of the serpent's reach. Then from his mouth, the serpent spewed water with a like a river to overtake the woman and sweep her away with a torrent. But the Earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.

Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to make war. Get this, to make war against the rest of her offspring. And you know, and I didn't understand what the offspring was, but this tells you, this tells you, okay, those who obey God's Commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus. You know, I don't know about any of this other stuff, but that speaks to me. Those scriptures that I read to you, like I really believe that yes, it is finished. It was done on the cross, but I feel like sometimes there's a process of walking it out, and we need to get rid of what holds us back. You know, and our parents don't know what they do. We don't know what we do to our children. We don't know what we do to other people. You know, sometimes we're still blinded. I believe, you know, and if we knew what we, if we knew what we did to other people, we wouldn't do it. And Jesus stood on that cross that day and he said, "God, forgive them, they know not what they do." It's the same words that Ro, when, when Peter is being stoned, Rose, I believe Jesus rose up inside of Stephen as he's being th stoned and he said, "God, forgive them, for they know not what they do." You know, if we would stop, and I'm, I'm just as guilty as this is as anybody else. I'm trying to figure out how to walk this out, but if we would stop blaming other people and start taking responsibility and start going after God and stop letting the enemy have room in our life, we would see such an amazing outcome of God. You know, I feel like in, in Acts three, three and four, Peter represents this is this really cool um, oh dang, it's all right, well, we'll do that another time. But anyway, that was perfect and those scriptures, you made it summer, made the whole thing. See, you feel better. Power prayer. Yeah. All right, well, so I thank you guys so much. Um, I don't want to take you over 10 o'clock. Um, we'll, we'll catch up with some of that next week. Um, I figure, oh, hey, do you have the, um, hold on one second. Um, my papers just show what we're talking about next week. I wanted to tell them this is the right one. That's Trail Hawk. That would have been the wrong one. All right, super d, you're hot. Come on, God, get her hot or is a fever? Take away the fever. Burn, burn it away.

So, um, this is the classes that we're going to have for the next couple weeks. I'm just going to share with you. I did an update paper and I'm going to send it out to you also. But next week, we're going to talk about understanding dreams, visions, and tattoo interpretation, and that's going to be us three talking about that. Janelle might end up coming into that. I don't know if they'll make it or not. So then, um, week seven, learning to teach and preach. So we're going to have some time where we're going to help you, um, learn different ways you can teach and preach and and work on the, um, the things that we wanted to do. We're going to have you do some teaching and preaching on revivalists, and I really feel like that's a really good area to, um, go after someone or can be a revivalist or a movement that had been in the past, like it could even be Toronto because that's still in the past. Or but also we want you to do one on a current leader or revivalist and just to go and do some research on them and just to see what God is showing you because I feel like if we understand revival, we can be revival, and revival is within you so that it can create a movement and and you know, and really want to help you with that. Um, and then we also maybe have you do some other kinds of teaching and preaching. So then we have, um, week eight would be the power, um, prayer life, and that's Miss Kelly Fleming's going to be teaching that, who is on with you guys and she jumped off. And then week nine, we're going to have U leading supernatural, and that's going to be us teaching. Then the week 10, um, we're going to be teaching and preaching and sharing, and that's you guys are going to be teaching and preaching that week. And then, um, week 11, we're going to have Eli Keshi come in and teach on evangelism and creating small groups. And then, uh, week 12, um, it's revivalist and how to transform your community. So we're going to be talking on that too that week. So, um, I hope we're, we're helping you guys grow as leaders and I really hope that we can continue to to see God move and manifest in your lives even greater and help you find wholeness. And if anybody hasn't been through deliverance and is interested, we're going to try to set up a time. We'll know more probably on Wednesday night when we want to do that. It'll be probably on a Saturday if you want to come here and you know, and if you're at a distance, maybe we can figure out something we can do in April or May that we can come through. And I just love it. I I love I love seeing. So we have some friends that are on that have been through bare Creek deliverance and wholeness. We have some friends that have been through voice Ministries, and then we also have, um, one that's been through, um, radical launch Deliverance Ministry. So it's kind of neat, you know, it's it's really cool to watch and and I love seeing you guys walking out your wholeness and it's just amazing and and I'm really super excited.

So Father God, I just thank you for this group of amazing men and women. And I thank you Father God for what you're doing in their life. I thank you Father God for putting a grace bubble around those who have not been, um, maybe delivered of something that's been irritating them or or something that's causing an issue in their life where they can't find a way around that that mountain. Father God, I ask that you would pour out over your sons and daughters as they walk out this next week and allow more of you to be filling up them and bubbling out the stuff that's in them that needs to come out. Father God, I thank you for you releasing emotions to trauma, releasing the the lies of the enemy. I thank you Father God for filling us up with your amazing presence where we we go after you like the woman with the blood disorder, that we go after you like Peter did. You know, God, I thank you that that you have grace and you have mercy, but give us the ability to run after you as much as you run after us. In Jesus name, amen. Love you guys. Thank you so much. And I'm going to try to call some of you guys this week. So, um, if you have my phone number, text me a good time to call you, you know, um, Tuesday through Friday, and and we'll try to talk to you. And, um, I'm excited to see what God's going to do. It's going to be amazing. Love you. Bye-bye.

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February 20, 2024

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