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I'm chilling, man. I'm chilling. I've uh recently become a a Christian. Um Okay. It's actually thanks to My condolences. My condolences. Damn. Okay. It's thanks to But it's thanks to a Muslim that I actually became more of a Christian. Like I started really locking in with it more. God bless his soul. You know, God bless your soul, too. I guess I just want to ask you two things first. So, if you knew Christianity was the truth, would you convert? If Christianity was Yeah. Yeah. If Christianity was the truth, I'd be Christian today. Okay. Beautiful. And then 100%. Um I mean I mean in reality Christianity is way easier than Islam when it comes to practicality. Oh, let's say the Christianity of today not not not following Christ. But the Christianity of today is very is way much easier. So why would I not take that deal? If it's the truth, okay, let's do it. Is not is Christianity not following Christ? I thought that's what Christianity was. That's the way it should be. But most of Christians, what Christians follow today is not Jesus. They follow uh the Roman Empire, the councils that were conducted on Paul specifically. That's what they're following today. Okay. They're not following Jesus.
Why do you think that? No, it's not that I think that I it is the fact because when you look at the teachings of Jesus, you do not find the beliefs. You do not find the beliefs that Christians hold today. you find only councils that conduct these beliefs and bring them. But when you look at the Bible itself, you don't find it. But before I'll get into Christianity, I love I love getting into Christianity. I don't have any issues. I just have one one question on something you said. You said that Islam like led you to Christianity or something similar to that or push you towards Christianity or whatever. Yeah. Or or you you know, you Muslim. My roommate's Muslim. He's a really good Muslim. And um no he he was questioning about it cuz we had a couple conversations and he brought me closer because I had to question what I believe and it actually brought me closer. Okay, I got it. So you mean brought you closer from that sense that you had to question, research and then understand. Okay, perfect. No problem. All right. So let's see um how far your research went. So let me Yeah. First thing I want I'll comment on Yeah. Okay. You go. You go. You go. No, no. I just I just want to continue from where we were about Jesus and what he taught and what the claim I was making. So for instance, you do I want to know first what kind of Christian you are? Do you believe in the trinity? You don't believe in what kind of Christian are you? Believe in the trinity. You're a trinity believer, right? A Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox? Give me one second. I'm so sorry. I'm getting a phone call. Bro, I'm on a live stream right now. Give me a second, bro. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I'll call you back. Sorry. Sorry, dude. Are you No, no, it's all right. It's all right. Are you Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant? Uh, look, I'm Orthodox. I grew up Orthodox, but I don't really believe in church tradition. I believe in Jesus Christ and I believe we should just go off the Bible. I don't mind tradition. Sure. Sure. Sure. So, that that is the position of Protestants by the way. Sola scriptura, scripture only and follow. Okay.
So, let's see now how true that statement you just made is. Now, I told you that Christians of today are not following Jesus. I asked you if you believed in the trinity. You told me you believe in the trinity. Do you believe Jesus? Which therefore also means that you believe Jesus is divine and God. Of course. Yeah. Of course. Sure. So, let's see how true what you believe is. You call yourself a Christian. How is that coming from Jesus when you look at the teachings of Jesus? Now, where are the Jesus in your belief? Let's start with we have two questions. The the usual questions. The first question is where is the trinity in the Bible that you believe in? By the way, let let me tell you what the trinity is before you tell me where it is. Because a lot I say that to people and then they like they go somewhere where it's not a trinity. So, I'll tell you I say what the trinity is. Tell me if you agree and then we can see if it's in the Bible or not. The trinity is that there are God the father, God the son, God the holy spirit. The father is not the son. The son is not the holy spirit. There are three persons in one being. Yeah. Is that correct? Yeah. Co-equal co and they're co-equal co-eternal. That's what you believe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Perfect. So I I am here you see very clearly representing your belief. Now, please in the Bible, find me. Where does it say that there are three persons in one being being God and that they're co-equal and co-eternal? Yeah. Where does where does Jesus where does Jesus because you said your belief comes from Jesus. Where does Jesus say that I and the father are one. That's what Jesus says. Do you know where that is? Where is it? Where is it? Where which part in the Bible do you I just that just came to my head. I and the father are one. Sure. I don't I don't have No, no. I I know where it is. I know. I'll tell you where it is. I'll tell you the verse. I'll tell you the context. Don't worry. I'm here with you. I'm here to help you. But first, but first, let's agree that what you provided is not the trinity because I started by defining the trinity. That the trinity is father, son, and the holy spirit being one. And it says that they are there are three persons in one being. So there's a difference between the person and the being. This agree first. The verse you provided does not show the trinity because it just says the father. I and the father are one which can be understood in many different ways. Okay. Now let's let's agree on that then let me explain your verse. No problem. I'll also that's why I said to you I'll give you a definition of the trinity first because I know you're going to give me something which is not a trinity. Right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
So going into I the father one. This is in John specifically chapter 10:30. Do you know the context? No. I got my Bible though. Should I get No. No. You're welcome to but I'll tell you the context. You don't need the Bible. I'll tell you. There's a Bible in the memory. So the context is that you have Jesus walking, you have the Pharisees Mhm. coming around Jesus and then they they ask him, they tell him, "Are you the Messiah? Tell us plainly." Yeah. Tell us clearly if you're the Messiah. He tells them, "I told you, but you do not believe." Right? And then he talks about his followers. He says that that he describes his followers as sheep and they can hear my voice. No one can plug him out of my hand. No one can plug them out of my father's hand. I and the father are one. Yeah. So when he says I and the father are one, the specific context and that context is is about plucking the believers out of Jesus's hand. It's not about I and the father are the same God. I and the father are divine. No. But do you know what's very interesting is that the Pharisees and the Jews misunderstand what he said and they think he's claimed to be God, which is what Christians today understand. So you see there's it's funny. It's funny that the Pharisees and Christians of today understand the same thing. And Jesus always told them, "You vipers, you snakes, you don't understand what I'm saying." But the Christians of today come to the same conclusion as the Pharisees. The Pharisees pick up stones to stone Jesus after he says, "In the father are one." Because they think, like you said, they think it's a claim of divinity. So, do you know what's funny? What does Jesus say to them? Do you know what Jesus says to them? He says to them, "I'm God." He says to them, "I'm God. How How are you stoning me?" Mhm. No, he doesn't say that. I'm just tell Yeah. Yeah. I'm it's it's a you know it's a hypothetical answer. I'm telling you he doesn't say that because he isn't God. If he was God he'll say oh I'm God do don't try to stone me. He says to them from which of the good works that I've done are you stoning me. So the miracles that I've done from my father for which of these miracles are you stoning? So then they they tell him we do not stone you for the good works. We stone you because you are uh claiming to be God. Okay. So Jesus says to them, "Doesn't it say in your book, you are gods?" He quotes Psalms specifically chapter 82:6 where God refers to the judges of the Jews as gods. Yeah. God, the Bible, the biblical God calls the judges of the Jews, he says to them, you are gods and the sons of the most high. So Jesus says, you are called gods in your book. Yeah. This is just biblical language. And then he says, I you want to stone me because I said I'm the son of God. Yeah. So he he is refuting the claim that they are saying he's claiming to be God by telling them I only said I'm the son of God. No way. I did not say I was God. I don't agree with you. I don't agree with you at all. I don't agree with Okay. But uh tell me that's that is No. No. You don't agree with the Bible. It's not that you don't agree with No. No. I don't I don't agree with you. I feel like you're taking a little bit out of context because you got to understand the Trinity. It's not said the Trinity in the Bible. The Trinity is how we we read the Bible. And to make sense of God in the Bible, you have to come up with the trinity. You have that's the way to explain the my friend. My my friend, you just said your opinion. I presented to you. You brought the verse. I told you the context which you didn't you were not aware of. Let's be fair. I told you the context. I told you the verses that Jesus was quoting and then I give you just what the scripture says. Then you say to me that I misrepresent the scripture and you bring nothing. You just say the trinity comes from the Bible. If the trinity Yeah. If the trinity comes from the Bible you want you want. I have a mind. Go get the Bibles you want. This isn't this isn't my point. No. The point I'm trying to make to you is I have a Quran too because I I'm seeking the truth. Right. I'm seeking the truth. So I have a Quran. No problem. You're coming to the truth, my friend. just just go into this exercise we're having right now and you'll end up realizing that Christianity could not have been the truth the truth which is why I give you condolences by the way it was a joke but it's kind of true at the same time this is what I'm saying to you I was I found the truth though because Jesus is the way the truth and the life okay first let's agree I've refuted the verse that you brought forward which is John 10 I'll get to you I'll get to you because I'm not logged in on my Bible wait not only that I'm I'm not still refuting it. I'll even refute it even further now by telling you that in the Bible in chap in in John 17 21 Jesus says the same way he's one with the father he says just as I am one with you referring to the father all of them will be one he's talking about the disciples all of them will be one with us all of them will be in us and we will be in them so if that was your trinity you will have 15 persons the All the disciples there including the father, son, and the holy spirit. So I and the father are one does not mean I and the father are god because all the disciples are one the same way he and the father are one. Okay. We refuted that. You refuted me. No. Good job. You done well. You done well. I I appreciate the sincerity. I appreciate you very well. I appreciate the sincerity and I ask Allah to guide you.
Now you went on to bring another verse which is by the way is in John 14:6 which says I am the way, the truth and the life. Okay. Now, this verse also does not support you, my friend. And you know why this verse? You You know the Bible better than me. What What's it in John? Yeah. John 14:6 is why you quot it John 14:6. Yep. Mhm. Mhm. Sure. So, it says, "I'm the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the father except through me, etc." Now, this verse Yeah. This verse does not support you. You know why this verse does not support you? Why not? Because if you are the way to something, you're not that thing. You're not the destination. If you take the the uh you know the A40 or the A60 to go to Stanford, the A60 is not Stanford. Okay. So if Jesus is the way to God, yeah, then by definition Jesus isn't God because he's just the way to God. If Jesus was God, he will be the destination that we all go to. He's not going to be who we go through to the destination. Now, if Jesus is the way to God, we don't have any issues with that because we say every messenger of God is the way to God. I cannot know about God the time of Moses without Moses. I cannot know about God the time of Prophet Muhammad without Prophet Muhammad. You cannot know about God without the messenger who will lead you and be your path, your way to go to that creator, to go to God. So even the Quran refers to the prophet Muhammad in in this similar terminology about being a path in a way. So uh we don't have any issue with that description because that is not that is not divinity. But not only that that's not the trinity in any way, shape or form. Okay. Yeah. You asking remember we're asking about the trinity and you brought but let me ask you a question before now John 14 the same chapter. Let's move a little bit further and go to verse 28. What does hold on can we can we go to verse seven first if you want. Hold on. So we only let me just say something. We only said the first part of that verse. I am the way. So why does he say I am the truth and the life. Why does he say no one goes to God but by through me? Why does the same thing I'm telling the same thing I'm telling you is that you cannot have eternal life. You cannot know the truth which is God without the way to God which is the messenger of God which is Jesus. So the truth, the way and the life all of them are included in the statement I'm making. Eternal life is only obtained through following the messenger and the messenger that he the message that he comes with. There's no issues there found in verse seven. But now I'm telling you, let's go in the same chapter. You want to say sorry? Yes. Just one more thing. Seven. What about verse seven? If y had known me, y should have known my father also. And from henceforth y know him and have seen him. So if you've seen Jesus, you've seen the father. How do you explain that? No. Okay, this is not going to help you. Again, I'll tell you why this is I like it. I like it. Yeah. No. Yeah. I'll tell you I'll tell you why it's not going to help you. First, do you know the Bible says no one have seen God? No one have seen the father. No one have seen God. Do you know the Bible says that? Where does it say that? If you go to uh John 6 from verse 46, it says no one has seen the father. Okay. It is written, the prophets, they shall be all of God. Every man therefore has heard and hath known the father cometh unto me. Not that any man hath seen the father save he which is of God. He hath seen the father. Sure. So no one can see the father. But not only that that the Bible says in Exodus 33 that no one can see God and live. Mhm. No one can see me and live. So when you try and say that people have seen God which is not the case by the way. No one have seen God. I'll explain to you. Sure. Sure. Can I say I see what you're saying in Exodus. But read 47. Did you read 47? You told me 46. But go ahead. You want to say except You want to say except who? Right. Go ahead. No. No. He that believeth on me have everlasting life. If I believe in Jesus, I have everlasting life. But he's a prophet. How? No. No. We We already agreed on that. We already said that if you follow Jesus and what he taught you, this is your way to eternal life. I don't have any issues with that. He didn't say he didn't he said he that believeth on it. Of course, you have to believe in the messenger of God in Islam. That's what that's what I'm just telling you. We don't have any issues with that. In Islam, we have six articles of faith. One of those articles of faith is to believe in the messengers plural. Meaning, if a Muslim says, "I don't believe in Jesus." In Islam, he doesn't go to paradise. He goes to hellfire. Okay. He's no longer a Muslim. So you're bringing things I I understand you think that they are making points but they're not. We don't have any issues. We believe in Jesus. We say you cannot enter paradise without believing in Jesus. So telling us that Jesus says you you have to believe in me. You're completely in agreement to that. I don't have any issues. But now I'm refuting your other verse before we move on to different very different verses. You say the people have seen the father. No one has seen the father. No one have seen God and live. No one can see God. That's why when Moses asked to see God, do you remember what happened? Yeah. That's why I quoted two Exodus. If Moses couldn't see God, the disciples are not going to see God. Moses, the one who spoke with God, couldn't see God. Now, no one sees God. So, this verse, by the way, uh where it says, "You have seen me, you've seen the father." We know the father is not the son. Do you agree? The father is not the son. No. It's the same thing. So, see, so the father is not a Palestinian Jew, right? So, when people saw a Palestinian Jew, they didn't see the father. They saw a Palestinian Jew. Okay. So now, so what is referring to? Let me even help you. I'll explain the Bible to you. Go, if you move forward few verses forward, you will see Jesus talking about, you will see Jesus talking about the miracles. So Jesus will talk about the works that you've done. And then he will say to the disciples that if you believe you will do greater works than me. So he's talking about the works. How do we understand that? We look at Acts chapter 2 verse 22. Okay. Okay. Okay. Where it says Jesus, a man appointed by God. A man appointed by God. Yeah. So not God, but a man appointed by God by many miracles and wonders that God did through him and you're witness to it. So if I see a miracle that a prophet does, it's as if seeing God because that no one can do this miracle except God. So that miracle that work is the evidence for God in front of me. You've already seen that. So this is what Jesus is referring to and that's why he quotes works and he tells his disciples that you'll do better work than me. He's definitely not talking that they actually see the father because no one can see God. So again you can bring all the verses you like but you'll see the Bible will explain them and the Bible itself will respond to them again. Now let's take let's take on the same chapter John chapter 14. Now let's even move a little bit forward. Now you explain to me yeah same chapter but let's go to verse 28. 14 verse 28. Yes. Okay. Where is it? Mhm. Uh, yay. I've heard I have a KJV. So, this is a bit of old English, so I don't know. Yeah. Okay. No problem. You You have heard I've said Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've heard what I've said. I go away and come unto you. If you love me, you would rejoice, etc. But then what does the verse say in the end? For my father is greater than I. The father is greater than all. Yeah. Father's greater than I. The father is greater than all. Now, let me ask a question. Wait, hold on. You said to me, hold on. I didn't ask the question yet, but go ahead. No, I can barely talk. You talk so much, bro. No, no. The point is, my friend, I let you ask your question, but to answer a question is not the same as asking the question. You're asking questions. Of course, I'll have to respond. I'll have to take more time to respond to your questions. You're asking me questions, so obviously I'll have to talk more. But this is me trying to ask you a question, but what do you want to say? Go ahead. I wanted to say no one has seen God in Exodus because God wasn't in human form yet. So h how could I even comprehend the living God that's outside of my dimension? Of course, I'm going to die if I see that. It's not even I can't even comprehend that. But when Jesus came Jesus God came into human form, then I could see him. So the same thing is for my father is greater than I. Of course, the father is greater than him. The father is not even in our existence, dude. He created what we are. Of course, he's greater in nature than Jesus. Of course. Okay. Okay. No problem. That that didn't answer Isa by the way. And but that's it's not I only quoted through a few verses. But there are other verses that says that that no one have seen God in the New Testament, not Exodus anymore. So it doesn't help you. So if you go to John 1, for example, verse 18, it will say to you the same thing. No one have ever seen God. Yeah. So your argument doesn't work, right? I just gave you a different verse, but there's many verses that in effect say the same thing that nobody have seen God in this life. So people have only seen the sun. This is what the verse is going to tell you. John 1:18. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So don't which is in the bosom of the father. What does that mean to you? That's for you to explain, not for me. I'm not a Christian. But the point the point I'm making in the verse, let's be clear, the verse, you see, you you leave the the part which is relevant and then you go to a different part of the verse. I want you to focus when I bring you the verse in what the part that we're using from the verse, which is that no one has ever seen God. So do not tell me about Exodus because Exodus doesn't help you here. I'm just giving you an example. The Bible is consistent given this idea that no one has ever seen God, new or old testament. Okay. Now, we've already moved on from this idea of seeing God. It's the verse says the father is greater than I. So a father is greater than Jesus. Yeah. Okay. Do you agree? When I presented to you the trinity, you yourself have agreed when I asked you, are they co-equal, co-eternal? You said yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. Was Jesus on earth fully God? Yes. But he was fully man as well. No. No. No. No. But but doesn't help. I ask you a question. Was he fully God when he was on earth? Yeah. So what does it mean to be fully God? It means to have the full attributes of God, the full greatness of God or you're not fully God. Yep. So if you have the full attributes and glory and majesty of God, is anyone greater than you? No. But if you're human, yes. No. Again, it doesn't help. You are only you're acting as if he only was human. If he only was human, then we're agreeing. We're not debating anything now. Okay. So both. So let's So if
He was both then, even though he was human, he still had all the full majesty and glory of God, right?
Yeah. Okay. So if he had the full majesty and glory of God, can anyone be greater than who has the full majesty and glory of God?
Yeah. Fully 100%. Can anyone be greater than that?
Yeah. God. Yeah. You can be greater than God in the—I said again, I'm not going to say this again. I said if you have all the majesty and glory of God. Now you're not being sincere, my friend. Look, you were sincere before. Now you're being—I'm trying to be sincere. I promise you. I promise. You're trying to be—agree with you here because he's both. It's not about agreeing with me. It's about—you admitted to this. You said, "Mhm." He had the full—He—you said he is God when he was there.
Yeah. Can anyone be greater than God?
No. So was Jesus God when he—when he was saying? Wait, wait, wait. No, no. I'm asking the question. Was Jesus God when he was saying this?
Yes. Yes. So, how can anyone be greater than him when he was God?
But greater in what sense? It's greater in nature. You're take—see, you're being disingenuous now. You're taking that one. Okay. You said greater in nature, right?
Yeah. Does the Bible say that? I mean, does—we come from—you see who's being disingenuous? Look, do you see who's—he just look—look—he said the father is greater than I. The father is greater than all.
Yeah. He's essentially say if—if—than all—God is greater than all in every way. He never said about nature and no nature. That's what you're saying, my friend. Now you know—on that was really funny. You know—wait—wait—wait—wait. Okay. Huh.
There's something very important. You're basing all of your argument on the hypothetic union, the 100% God, 100% man. But you've not proven that yet. I'm just—I'm accepting it because I'm a nice guy. But where does—does Jesus ever tell you that he's 100% man, 100% God? He—he was born—he was born from a virgin. So who's the other half of it?
No, no problem. Being born of a virgin, having a miracle does not make you God. You had Melkisedec—had no father, no mother, no genealogy. He was eternal in Hebrew 7. You had Adam be created by God directly. No mother, no father, no genealogy. You had Eve created from the Adam. No, no. Your argument—your argument is not—if someone is born of a virgin does not equal him being God. That's not a logical argument there, right? The one who—the one who created him in the womb of Mary. We believe in the—in the miraculous birth. By the way, we don't have any issues with it. The one who created him. The one who created him and sent angel Gabriel was God. So that doesn't make you God to be—by the way. You know what you just—you said he was created in the womb of Ma—Mary or made—born. God is not born, my friend. God is ever living. The flesh—the flesh—the word of God which is Jesus who was uncreated became flesh. So why were you using the argument about the flesh to prove that he's God if it's just the flesh?
But he's not just the flesh. I'm telling you, he was already there, but he was—that flesh was created from Mary. And what's the other half? Where does the other half come from?
That's the God. No, my—my friend. Were you using—were you using the fact that the flesh came out of a virgin as proof that he's God or not? You were. The flesh doesn't support you in any way, shape, or form. I'm asking you, where does Jesus say?
Yeah. That he has a hypothetic union. We already showed you that he says the father is greater than him. But hold on. Where does Jesus ever say?
Yeah. Yeah. Look, look. This is what I want between me and—where does it say? Where does it say? I don't know. I'm going to tell you. No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. I provide you with verses. Yeah. Whenever I quote anything, I give you verses as responses. I give you the context. And I'm not the Christian, by the way. I give you the numbers. I give you the context. I give you—I'm not the—you are the Christian. So here as the Christian given us all of these beliefs of yours, I told you—look—the Christians of today—and I'm proving it through our discussion. I told you the Christians of today believe not what Jesus taught. They believe what the church taught. The one who brought you the trinity, the one who brought you the trinity was the church council 381. That's why I told you the definition of the trinity and you agreed that was the church's definition, by the way. That's not the biblical definition because the trinity does not exist anywhere in the text. So we went through the text—we looking for. We didn't find the trinity. We didn't find Jesus claiming to be God. Now I'm asking you, you claim the hypothetic union. You have to prove he's God first. You have to prove that.
Can I say it?
Of course. Yes. Okay. So, you want me to prove by saying the exact verse. But these are—this is an inference. This is how I've interpreted the verse. This is how every Christian has interpreted the verse. Okay. Now to respond to you, no—that's not—that's not how every Christian has interpreted the verse. But the fact that you say—because you have many groups of Christianity that disagrees with you. The earlier groups of Christianity like the Ebionites and the Nazarenes did not believe Jesus was God. They believe he's just a messenger of God. You have today—Unarian Christians. You have Jehovah's Witnesses, which you don't consider Christians, but they don't believe Jesus is divine. There's many other Christians that would interpret the verses different to what you're interpreting them. But what you just admitted to is that there is no clear verses saying any of your beliefs. So if it's an inference—and that's what inference by definition means—inference—you don't have a clear explicit statement stating what you're saying. So you have to infer the meaning, which can be right and can be wrong. So me as a Muslim—as a Muslim—just to finish the statement—as a Muslim, I'm not going to base my afterlife on an inference of maybe—maybe—yes—some Christians believe this—some Christians believe that. On the other hand, I did not bring you inferences, and I will bring you more verses now—clear-cut verse—I brought you a clear—clear-cut verse in John 14. The father is greater than I. Clear? No inference. I don't need to add anything from myself. Father is greater than all. I'll give you more verses, but I'll let you respond first.
Okay. I'll give you clear vers—I'm going to say—I'm going to say two things. Inference was the wrong use of a word. Okay? And I'll say another thing. I'm not even that locked in on the Bible. I read it once. You've probably read the Bible more than me. I'm just telling you that it's not an inference. It's like—I don't know what the word is that I'm looking for. And English is my first language. This is crazy. It's an interpretation, which is the same thing—like—yeah, it's what we gather from it. It's the interpretation.
Yeah, it's the same thing. Okay. But you brought—by the way, remember—by the way—I remember my friend—look. Yes. I—well, I—I started a live stream.
Mhm. You came on the live stream, right? So, I'm—I'm supposing if someone tells me I'm not ready, I'm like, "Guys, you came to me." You know, I'm just sitting here, bro. I'm just—I'm just sitting here chilling. Okay. You've—then you've—then quoted verses—then I'm just sitting here chilling. I don't know what you're going to bring, but I told you what—where these verses are. I give you responses to these verses, right? It's not about—it's not about any of that. It's about the truth. And the truth is always—
Yeah. And the truth is always clear. Now, this is—the Bible says, the God in the Bible says God is not the author of confusion. The Bible says that—come, let us reason together. Come, let us reason. That's how you come to the conclusion of the truth. Now, the verses that are clear, now you've given me all of these ambiguous verses that are not clear that I've already given you responses for. Now, I gave you one clear verse, but let me add you one more clear verse. But first, I'll ask you a question.
Yeah. Does God know everything? Does God know everything?
Yeah. But I—I already know what you're going to say. I already know what you're going to say because we don't agree because I think Jesus—sorry, I know Jesus is 100% man and 100% God. I know you're going to say—you didn't know the time, bro. I know. I've seen this everywhere. I've seen it. So, so, so the fact that you know what I'm going to say does not negate the fact you don't have an answer for it. So, now I asked you the question—my answer. You haven't accepted it. Let me ask you a question. If I'm 100% God,
Mhm. am I all-knowing?
If you're 100% God, you—yes, I'm a man. I'm fully man, but I'm also 100% God. If I'm 100% God,
Mhm. Am I all-knowing?
Yeah, but you're not 100% God. No, no, no, no, no. So, you just refuted yourself to say that he just has a—to say—let me just say—finishes the actual God in another dimension. Is that—that the God you're talking about?
No. Let's—let's take it down like one step. Okay. And focus with me a step by step. I'm—I'm fully man.
Okay. Okay. No issues. No worries. I don't have any issues with that. Okay. 100% man. But in the same time, I'm 100% God as well.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, if I'm 100% God as well, am I unknowing? Simple question. That's a good question. That's a good—you stop. No, no, it's not. No, no, no, no. Like you—you know—you know the answer. You know—you stop me. I give it to you. I'll look—the—the problem is with all of the Christians, they don't understand. When they bring the hypothetic union, it doesn't answer the questions. Because the hypothetic union still says that he's 100% God. If you ever say he doesn't know because he's also man, then he's only man because him being God also would mean that he needs to know. That's what being God means. That he's also all great. That's what being God means. If he's not great, if he doesn't know, if he's weak, then he's not God. You're just using a term that doesn't apply to the—to the person. God. What we define as God is the one who's ever living, all-powerful, all-knowing. That's what God is. So to call someone fully God, that means they need to possess all of these attributes. If they do not possess all of these attributes, then you—you're saying they're 100% God makes no sense.
Okay. Okay. I'm going to give it to you cuz—bro, really? Like you're cooking me right now. But can I bring up another verse?
If you want, of course. Yes. I'm being, bro, I'm being honest as I can—
No, you are being honest, and I appreciate that. And look, I respect that. I look, we're both looking for the truth. It's not about me. It's—
Yeah. It's not about who's more intelligent, who's more ver—it's about finding the truth.
Of course. Of course. So, St. Matthew 4, the temptation of Jesus, right? Verse 10, "Get thee hence, Satan, for it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." What does that mean to you? That you should worship God alone and serve God alone. Is that what you're asking me? Or what is your question?
Yeah, that's what—does that mean to you? Because Satan's tempting Jesus, but Jesus is—killing Jesus to worship God. Right. Jesus is saying to him, "Get away. It's written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
Sure. So, so, so Jesus is telling Satan that the only one worthy of worship and that you should worship and fear is God. I completely agree with that. Do you know—do you know—do you know what was funny about that is Jesus is telling uh the Satan?
Yeah. Jesus is telling Satan that you should only worship God alone.
Yeah. Do you know that Jesus worshiped the father? Hold on. Nine says, "And saith unto him, all these things will I give thee if thou will fall down and worship me." Hold on, my friend. Did you hear my question? You just said—you just quoted Jesus. You quoted Jesus saying to Satan that you should only worship God alone.
Yes. So if you worship something, it's your God. But why did he say that though? Wait, my friend. I'm telling you, he's telling Satan that the only person you should worship is God, that fear God, meaning don't try to deceive me. You should fear your creator. But the point I'm making to you is, which you're not answering, is if Jesus said you should only worship God alone. Did Jesus worship God alone?
Well, I don't know. I don't know. I actually don't know.
You don't know. You don't know. Know when Jesus fell in—in Matthew 26:39—on his—on his head and prayed all night in the garden of Gethsemane to the father?
No. No. Okay, go ahead. Matthew 26:39. But hold on. Just saying with seven. This is what I'm saying with seven. And so—same—but—but wait. I'm sorry. You didn't know that Jesus worshiped God? You really didn't know that? Did he worship him or did he talk with him? Did he commune with him?
No, he worshiped him. It says he fell on his face and he worshiped God.
Okay. Pray to God. Let's say this. Let's do this. But look, look, I see what you're trying to say, but I can already—it already makes sense why the Bible says, you know, I'm not trying to say anything. But I see what you're getting at from the Bible. I'm saying I see what you're trying to say. But he's a human and he's God. So of course he would—of course he would talk—like—how else—talk.
Okay, talk. No problem. Let's talk about talk. Go to Luke because you want the word worship. Go to Luke. Hold on. Sorry. Cuz—hold on. I just wanted to go back to—to seven.
No, no, no. Before going back, let's establish this point first and then we'll go back. Go to Luke chapter 6. Luke chapter 6. Yes. Verse 12, and tell me what it says. Uh 12. "And it came to pass in those days that he went out into a mountain to pray and continued all night in prayer to God." So what did Jesus do? He prayed to God.
Okay. So the only one you worship and pray to. But hold on. The father's—the father's greater than him. So of course he would pray. Come—come on this side. Come. I have some space for you. You're being a Muslim right now.
Come here. Exactly right. Jesus worshiped God. And Jesus—our father is greater than Jesus. We are in the same position, man. Like, let's shake hands. That's what Muslims believe. You are—my job is done. But this is done. We have the same belief. We just don't believe with Jesus, right?
No, no, no. Like Jesus is our—I have the—let me clarify. Look, I have the belief that Jesus had. You have the belief that is from the church that is not in the scripture, which is why I was questioning you on all this time. Now I'm bringing you to the same belief of what Jesus was teaching, which is what Muslims believe that he was a messenger, a prophet, a messenger sent by God. He was lesser than God because God is greater than everyone. He's called the servant in the Bible. He taught people. He prayed himself, fell on his face, prayed all night. He said the father is greater than him. He did not know the hour. He said he has a God. In fact, he said the only true God is the father. I don't know what else you want than this. He didn't say the Holy Spirit. He—he didn't say himself. But he said that he went out into a mountain to pray. He didn't say worship God. He continued, "All I pray to."
No, no. Pray to who? Pray to who? It says, he says, "Pray to who?" Pray to—pray to—mention in the chapter.
No. No. Pray to the father.
No. No. Pray to the father specifically. Okay. Let's say he prayed to God, right? He prayed to God. The father is the almighty God. So, so he prayed to the almighty God, right?
Yes. But does God pray to anyone? Wait. As well. Does any—does—wait—like you—you're getting it. Like—does God pray to anyone or do people pray to Almighty God? Look, we're saying the same thing. Jesus was a messenger praying to the Almighty God.
But perfect. But he's a man and he's God. That's—that's where we—that's where we—that's where we clash heads. That's where we clash heads. My friend, my friend, you see, you've not brought any verse that supports that. Do you know why? Do you know—can I tell you why? Because that is another belief that came later in the—in the councils in the fifth century.
Mhm. Before that, this hypothetic union came from the church fathers to try to fix the verses that contradict each other. They're trying to say Jesus is divine and God. They have the Bible saying other than that. So they try to bring the hypothetical in you. You go to the Bible, you—it's clear the Bible never says Jesus—I'm talking about Jesus specifically because we're talking about Jesus taught. Jesus never said I'm 100% man, 100% God. Jesus never says, "I'm your God." Wait, wait. Let me just clarify what Jesus never said. You know, you have this big Bible in front of you. Jesus says everything under the sun in these verses, right? You have verses saying about how disciples washed his feet, how he slept, everything is there, but there isn't a single verse.
Yeah. That Jesus says he's 100% man, 100% God. That Jesus says that he is God Almighty. That Jesus says that he's the creator of the heavens and the earth. That Jesus says pray to me. That Jesus says—I—I am a trinity—a part of a trinity—all of these beliefs that you hold—none of them are present in the Bible on the tongue of Jesus.
Okay, okay. I'm fair enough. I'll give it to you. I give it to you. But why does—why does Jesus say to Satan, "It is written, thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God"—why is he calling—he's quoting the old testament—he's quoting the old testament—he's quoting a prophecy in the old testament—it's quoting Sams—the Psalms. Hold on. "And saith unto him, 'If thou be the son of God, cast thyself down, for it is written, he shall give his angels charge concerning thee, and in their hands they shall bear thee up.'" He's quoting Psalms. It's quoting the Psalms. Can you—can you show me that?
Yeah. Go to the Psalms. By the way, what you're going to do right now, do you know what you're about to do? I'm just going to—I'm going to help you before you go to the Psalms.
No, I don't. No, no, I'm going to tell you what you're about to do. What you're about to do is disprove the crucifixion.
Okay, I'll show you. You'll see. So, so—wait, wait. So, here Jesus is quoting a prophecy in the Psalms. Psalms 91. So, you remember Jesus was saying how God will have angels protecting him and all of that. This is what Jesus was saying in the—in Matthew, right?
Yeah. Yeah. By the way, if you have any footnotes in the New Testament, they will also tell you that he's quoting Psalms 91. Go to Psalms 91.
Okay. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here. I got it here. You read—read now Psalms 91. Let's enjoy Psalms 91 together. The whole thing. Do it. I—the whole chapter is in—in my favor. Let's do it. I don't mind. Psalm 91. Or—or maybe—or maybe to save time, we could just highlight verses. But just—you go through it now and I'll tell you which verses are important. You read—read through it now.
Okay. But I—I see what you're trying to say already. You want to skip over it first? I'll—I'll—I'll—I'll skip over it. I'll have it now in front of me. I'll skip over it for you.
Yeah. "Whoever dwells in the shelter of the most high." So now it talks about someone who's resting in the shelter and refugee and the fortress of God. So God is a protector of this person.
Yeah. Okay. Which then it talks about—this is one and two. That's why I'm saying go through it with me. That's why I'm saying go through it with me.
Yeah. We're going through it a bit by bit. Now it talks about how he will cover you under his wing. How he will not make you fear terror. No one will come near you. No harm will come near you. No punishment will—will overtake you. It's clear. No disaster will ever come near your tent. No harm, no disaster, no punishment. Of course, the crucifixion is the exact opposite of that. So Jesus cannot be saying here that God promised me and I'm quoting what God promised me which—that no harm will ever befell me. But in the same time, I'm put on a cross and killed. And that's why Muslims are not—do not believe in the crucifixion. Now it says that in the same chapter that how God is going to send angels, his angels to protect him and how God is going to rescue him. I will—I will rescue him. I'll protect him and how God is going to uplift him up.
Mhm. Mhm. And it says God, "I will satisfy him and show him my salvation with long life." So it says that he's going to give him long life, protect him, send his angels to raise him up and protect him. Do you know who believes that? Muslims believe that.
Okay. Muslims. Muslims believe Jesus was raised up.
Yeah. He was not killed or crucified. And that's why you see the contradiction. Raised up though. Why was he raised up? Because God is saving him from the people that are trying to kill him. And God has another mission for him which we believe in which is to kill the antichrist in his second coming. So that for now he is raised. But the point is this. The point is that God has promised him according to Jesus himself because Jesus is the one who quoted Psalms 91.
Yeah. So Jesus is telling you God has promised me protection that Jesus is saying to Satan.
Yeah. I'm protected my friend. Yeah. God has promised—God has promised that he's going to rescue me and protect me in the sand. So you're not going to be able to tend me or do anything to me. But I don't agree with you though. But that's what—that's what the Bible is saying. I don't agree with you. But—but he clearly says, "It is written, thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Written where? Written where? It is written in Psalm 91. "Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." No problem. So the Lord, he's saying he's the Lord thy God. You see, my friend, you're ignoring every clear verse out there—I just brought to you. And then you're trying to—to—with all due respect—change Jesus's word. If I say to you right now, you—you—you—I'll say to you, she's written that word for word. Let me tell you, let me tell you. You—I'm talking to you right now.
Yeah. Look at me. You shall not tempt the uh the Lord your God. Does that mean I'm claiming to be God?
No. Okay. So, that—that's exactly what Jesus did. I'm reminding you. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm just—my friend. I'm reminding you of a fact. You're doing something wrong. You're trying to do something wrong. I'm reminding you that you cannot tempt God. It's a reminder. And I'm telling you that God has promised to protect me. Who's protecting who in Psalms 91? But hold on. Who's protecting who? The context is different. Satan is saying, "If you are the son of God, throw yourself down." So he's—he's a problem. What's Jesus saying to him? I'm the Lord thy God. I'm the Lord thy God. You can't tempt me, bro.
No. Look, have some respect for your Bible. Don't put words in the mouth of Jesus. He didn't say, "I'm the Lord your God." You said that. Okay? So stop doing that to Jesus. You know—be a follower of—wait—be a follower of Christ and don't do that. Satan is telling him son of God, which means a follower of—
God. Everyone is a son of God in the Bible. You are changing it to mean that he’s claiming to be God. I’ve already showed you: if Jesus is God, he’s not going to quote Psalms 91, which talks about him being protected by God. Okay? That makes zero sense. That Psalms 91 is talking about someone who is going to be protected by God because he is in God; God is going to protect him.
To be honest with yourself, you cannot try to be as honest as possible. So, do you agree? Let me ask you the question then. You don’t need to see what I’m saying. No. No. You don’t need to see what I’m saying. Did Jesus say, “I am the Lord your God” in this verse? No. Okay. So, it doesn’t help you because it’s your own interpretation, understanding. I brought you—Wait, I didn’t only bring you—I didn’t bring you my interpretation, understanding. I brought you Psalms 91, which Jesus is quoting. Mhm. So you have to be honest with yourself. He cannot be claiming to be God when he’s quoting Psalms 91 about someone else other than God who is protected by God. But this is what I’m saying to you. He didn’t say, “I am thy Lord, thy God.” That was—that—not the—What’s the word? What’s the word? What’s the word? What’s that word? That’s the words you put in his mouth, which you shouldn’t do.
No, I’m not putting in his mouth. My friend, my friend, look. Sure. Look, we’ve dealt with this, son. Sure. Son of God. Not see. Do you know—you don’t think Satan—Satan knows who God is? You don’t think Satan has seen God and spoken to God? Of course. Yeah. So why didn’t he say, “If you’re God?” Cuz he’s—Why is he telling him, “If you’re the son of God?” No. No. Why is he so—so Satan knows he’s God? But he’s trying to tell them. Come on. Oh, he’s—come on. Like, and then I—and then he’s calling—and then he’s calling him—I think he’s calling him the son of God instead of calling him God. Come on. Look, let’s—let’s—you see how you—you’re not being—you’re not being sincere. Look, let me tell you something. I’m trying—I’ve already responded to this verse. Let’s end with this verse. Let’s end with this uh, final blow. Would I be able to say two things after? Would I be able to—cuz I got a question about the Quran? Say them now. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let’s finish with the Bible then. If you have—if your questions are about the Quran, but—but I have Joe waiting as well. He’s been waiting for a while. I want to bring—Sorry, Joe. Hey, Joe. Sorry about that. It’s all right. So, let’s—let’s finalize. Go to John 17:3. John 17. Read it for me. 17. Read from verse one first where Jesus looks up to heaven and says, “Father, Jesus looks up to heaven.” My bad. My bad. I’m on Matthew. It’s okay. You said John 17. Yes. First one. Yep. Jesus looks up to heaven and says, “Father, right?” So Jesus is talking to the father. Yeah. Now read for me verse three. And this is—this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He—he spoke about that as well. He spoke about that as well. My roommate. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I’m asking you the question now. Yeah. If he says the father is not the son, the—the—the father is not the holy spirit. The father is the father. Yeah. Focus with me here. No, not—not—not anywhere else. If Jesus says, because we don’t want to keep jumping again. If Jesus says the only true God is the father. Mhm. Do you know what that’s called, my friend? Thank you. Do you know what’s also called? It’s called an explicit statement. You see why I don’t have to—I do not have to jump around the bush and try to tell you he means this, he means that, but this would mean—I don’t need to do any of that because in reality, he—he says it for me, he says it for me, okay? So, and—and—and I rest my case here. He has said—Jesus has said that there’s only one God worthy of worship, only one true God, which is Allah, and he is sent by that God, which is the belief of Muslims. Now you have questions about the Quran, right? So go ahead, bro. I’m so—Sorry, Joe. Brother, I’m so sorry as well. I’ll just say one thing. And two, what about two though? And thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given. Look, my friend, God—listen, you—you make—trust me, you don’t know, but you—you’re making it worse. When I say to you, I—I’ll tell you now. I’ll tell you why. If I say you have been given all power, did you have it before? Did I have it before? Wow, that’s—that is actually good. Um, if someone gives me all—Wait, wait. If someone gives me all the power, can I ever be God or that I always possess all the power? I’m telling you, you’ll make it worse, my friend. Look, I’m honestly trying to help you. I get you. I get you. Okay, fair enough. You got me now. You got me now. You got me now. You got me now. Okay, so let’s—let’s go to the questions on the Quran, please. I don’t know. You know—you know, let’s go to the questions. Hold on. I’m so sorry, bro. The second half, and he should give eternal life to as many. Why? Why does Jesus give eternal life? Okay, can you—can you close the Bible now? I got a sock in my Bible. Okay, closing the Bible. We’re done with it. I already responded to you about given eternal life. God has given him authority to be a messenger and through him you get eternal life. You already responded. So, let’s go to the questions about Islam. Yes. Okay. What—what is the—the questions about the Quran before we—we finish, just so I gave you an opportunity as well. Yes. I kind of think—I kind of think it contradicts itself to be honest. I actually had the same conversation with my mate before. Sure. Where—where does it say that Jesus was like crucified or they sent someone else in his place? No, they didn’t say that someone was made to appear as him. Where is that in the Quran? Chapter 4, verse 157. Chapter 4 of the Quran, verse 157. It says, “And their statement, ‘We killed the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary,’—who did not kill him nor crucify him—and those who are in disagreement about him are in doubt. Yeah. They have no certain knowledge about him, and for short, they did not kill him.” Then the next verse says, “Allah raised him to him.” This is what the verses say. So what is your question? So my question is that’s the Jews talking, right? Like—no, Allah saying—but it’s Allah saying that’s the Jews talking. Yeah, it’s Allah says, “And their statement”—in the Arabic language—that is applying to anyone who said they killed or crucified Jesus the son of Mary, because it’s a general statement. So Allah, if he wants to call the Jews only, he will say, “With the statement of the Jews,” or “the statement of these people.” In the context, you will see Allah talks about the Jews. No problem. But this specific verse is also including anyone who makes that statement. Okay. Yeah. Any statement for anyone that, “We’ve killed or crucified Jesus the son of Mary,” whether it is the Romans, whether it is the—whoever makes and boosts and makes up that claim, Allah is refuting them. It’s about refuting the claim that Jesus was not killed or crucified. So hold on. But was there someone else crucified? Now this is what the verse is just telling you. The verse is telling you he did not kill him or—or crucify him, but it was made to appear unto them. So, which means that people believed—it means people at the time believed Jesus was crucified. Number one, and then it goes on to tell you that no one knows. Those who have assumptions, Allah is telling you in the verse, those who have assumptions about what happened have no certainty about what happened. So Allah has not told us exactly what happened, but he told us the facts that matter. Yeah. Facts that matter is that he was not killed and he was not crucified. But it’s—but it’s a historical fact that he was killed on the cross. Okay. Now we’re going to Christianity again. If you want to go—I can tell you why it’s not historical fact. This is history. This is history. This is history. No. No. It’s not history. I’ll tell you what. Do you know why it’s not history? Why? You do not have a single eyewitness account recorded of anyone having seen Jesus being crucified or killed. You have generally historians saying Jesus was killed. Do you know why they say Jesus was killed? Because Jesus was a human being and all human beings die. And historians would naturally record a human being died. There’s no issues with that. No one disagrees with that. But more importantly, I’m just—I just told you—wait, wait, wait. More importantly, I just told you the Quran says they believed it. So to tell me people believe Jesus was crucified or killed does not contradict the Quran in any way, shape, or form. But in reality, who knows everything is God. And I just told you, you have no eyewitness, not a single eyewitness account to show that. In fact, if you want me to go to the Bible, I want to go to the Bible again. If you want to go to the Bible, I’ll show you again—already from the Bible. I already showed you Psalms 91, but I have more verses to show you how the—the accounts in the Bible do not support the crucifixion of Jesus. But you ask me about Islam, I’m responding to you about Islam. We have no issues with what history says because the Quran says people believed it. Of course, and then Allah refuted the claim that it happened, saying that it didn’t happen. Why would—But why would people believe it though if they didn’t see it? There’s many people who didn’t believe it. There’s many people who didn’t believe it. It’s not like everyone—it’s not like everyone believed it. Now people believe it because now it’s based on what—the consensus later on of the church is taking place and then—and then—no earliest manuscripts of the Bible is ever found. The earliest you have is 400 years after Jesus. So it doesn’t matter what people agreed upon later on. Okay. What happened at that time is different. I just want to ask you. You said before the word of God—it—like it’s not—it shouldn’t be hard to interpret, right? You said that interpretation. No, no. I—I didn’t say that. I just said God is clear. When we talk about God, God is clear. Clear. So God—Yeah. God is—I said—I quoted through the Bible. God is not the author of confusion. So when we talk about God’s identity, God, who God is, what God wants from us, all of these things need to be clear. Okay? So this is what I want to say to you. We had the Bible, right? But wait, but let’s—let’s make that the last thing because I do have—Okay, this last one. This last one. So we had the Bible, correct? Okay. Early Christians believed the same thing I believe for what—500 years until the Quran came. That’s not true. But how is it not true? Do you know—do you know who the Ebionites are? The who? Ebionites. Do you know the Nazarenes? Uh, these are the earliest group. These are the earliest one of the earliest groups of Christianity. You’re talking about 70 A.D. and other ones. And I can name you many other groups. These groups did not believe in that Jesus was God or a part of the Trinity or any of these things that you believe today. Now Christians did not have—I’m not sure. I’m positive. You can just Google it right now in a minute and you would see now. Now these groups are called heretical. Why? Because Constantine, when he adopted Christianity in the Roman Empire, and he conducted the Council of Nicaea in 325, and they were arguing whether Jesus is equal to the father or not—in 325—325 years later they’re still arguing about this. Oh, they’re still arguing about this. Yeah. And you had Arius—Arius—who is a position of subordination, saying that Jesus is—is a demigod, is a lesser god. He’s not equal with the father. And then you have Athanasius arguing, “No, they’re co-equal, co-eternal.” And then they—they conducting the council. Okay, they’re equal, co-equal, equal. And then everyone else who doesn’t believe that is a heretic and they will burn any other writings that are against that. And then you have 381 and they add the Holy Spirit. This is your—your history, my friend. This is Christian. I have so many questions, bro. I have so many questions, bro. I wish I could talk to you more. I really wish I could talk to you more. This is one important question. Yeah. When are you ready to become Muslim? Is that—is the most important question, my friend, for you to be asking, right? All of these questions are just—are just like beating around the bush. No, no, I like it, bro. Bro, honestly, thank you so much. You did—you did open my eyes on how much more I need to study my Bible so I can come back and we can really clash it out. But God bless you. This is the last thing I’m going to say to you, my friend. Okay. Yeah. Unlike your friend asking you questions and making you think, I’m giving you answers. I love that. And your conclusion—and your conclusion shouldn’t be, “Oh no, I’m going to be stronger in my faith.” No, your conclusion should be, “I need to be sincere.” And if these things that he’s saying is true, Jesus cannot be God if he doesn’t possess the attribute of God. And if there is no trinity mentioned in the Bible, Jesus does not claim to be God. History of early—of the early church shows us that this comes from there. The Bible is not preserved because it’s 400 years later. If these things are true, then a sincere person would leave that because it is not the truth. You remember what you asked me in the beginning of the talk, “If Christianity was the truth?” Now I’ll give you the same question. Yes. It’s not—if Islam is the truth. Islam is the truth. And I’ve given you some of the reasons why—is the—if—if I come to my own conclusion that it’s the truth, I convert straight away. But right now—right now I just don’t agree with you cuz I’m going to—cuz I’m going to look into everything that we spoke about. Is this—Can I watch this back? Yes, I will upload it, inshallah. It will be uploaded very, very soon, and I can perhaps send it to you. Just email me. I might send it to you as well. Go do your research. All the references will be on the screen, and I’m more than happy to—for you—for you—for you to come back and take your shahada once you’re done with your research. All right, my friend. All right. It was a pleasure talking to you. No, thank you so much. Just—when you’re live-streaming next, I want to come back. I want to talk to you again. Not next week. Probably the week after next week because next week. God bless you. Good luck. Good luck with everything, bro. God bless you. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right, my friend. See you. Bye-bye. Sorry, Joe. Sorry, mate. Kit.