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Hey everyone, I'm Ashley Banfield and this is Drop Deadad Serious. I'm coming to you from my mom's house in Florida, uh, hence the different backdrop, but I wanted to um bring you this podcast tonight. It is April the 13th.
Um, because tomorrow I'm headed to the Bahamas. Actually, I'm going to uh start looking for myself about all of these different places that that Brian Hooker said he was. um right before his wife, Lynette Hooker, went off the back of the boat and he was unable to save her. I I felt like the story was very fishy. Um just because I'm a boater, but I'm learning a lot more and I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt.
I talked to someone today in the Bahamas who's very, very familiar with Elbow Key, actually, where Brian and Lynette were the whole day before she went missing on April 4th. and he said he was there April 4th on Elbo Key at that time. Said the weather actually was a bit blowy and in the place where they were just outside the channel where they'd actually murdered their boat. Um this is frustrating. It kind of keeps the mystery alive because my friend uh David told me uh there could be some currents there. The wind could be blowing. Would it be enough to separate somebody like that? Um probably not.
But maybe I was kind of hoping for something more definitive, but um I'm going to go there myself and talk to more mariners. I'm actually going to be going to a marina right there at El Key. Um and I'm going to take the route that uh Brian and Lynette took to spend the day in Elbow Key and the route that they took in the dinghy supposedly to go out to their anchored boat where catastrophe befell them according to Brian. And then I'm going to take the route that Brian says his dinghy actually drifted.
But I have something I want to show you right now that I'm having a really tough time understanding that this is a guy who floated anywhere based on what his watch told those who followed him because his watch was one of those watches that plots his course and his stepdaughter could follow his course plotted along a route based on his watch. and she has sent it to me and I'm looking at it saying, "This looks an awful lot like the route the sailboat took from Marsh Harbor where they spend most of their time over and around over to Elbow Key for the day of fun and then right back again in the exact same route, not floating willy-nilly with a broken ore trying to paddle for nine hours."
So, I'm going to show you those and again, I'm willing to suspend disbelief here because I don't know necessarily exactly the time. I'm going to talk to a captain who's more familiar with these charts and with the times and with these apps as well just to get his take tomorrow uh when I get there.
But uh let me just start from the beginning because late tonight, just after 8:00 p.m. Eastern, um Brian Harker was released. You know, the Bohemian authorities determined that after a 72-hour hold, which was already an extension of a 48 hour hold, that they didn't have enough to charge him with anything that could hold him in a detention cell on Grand Bahama Island. So, in the city of Freeport on Grand Bahama Island, he was at the Central Police Station. That's where he was detained. And his lawyer, uh, Terrell Butler was there saying, "Listen, charge him or release him." It was supposed to happen at 7:20 and it did not. And Miss Butler told me she was pissed. She was waiting and she was pressuring them. Anyway, they released him and Fox News Digital got some images of him being cleared out of the uh central police station where he was being held. They were all prepared that if he was being charged, he was going to make an appearance across the street and then probably end up being transferred over to uh the main city of Nassau on uh New Providence, the big island in the Bahamas where most people fly into where Paradise Island and the Atlantis and all that fun stuff is. Anyway, that's not happening.
So, here's what I'm guessing. He may be going out to his boat tonight cuz that's where he lived. That's where he lived and lives. He may be heading out to Soulmate which is on a moing ball which he and his wife Lynette uh would rent so that they could access the conchk in and marina nearby for the facilities there the pool and the restaurant and all the rest. And that's where the boat was the you know the 46 ft uh soulmate yacht was was anchored when he was arrested and taken to jail. So he's got to sleep somewhere tonight. So who knows if uh his lawyer is there on Grand Bahamas. She's probably got a hotel room. I don't know if he wants to spend the money on a hotel room or whether he wants to head back. You probably actually, if I think about it tonight, he's about 100 miles away and the ferry 17 hours and a flight is probably not going to happen tonight. So, he's probably uh resting his head on a hotel pillow tonight and then we'll make for um this is my guess. He will either make for Marsh Harbor where his boat is anchored or he'll cut and run. If he's got his passport, and I can only assume he does if they released him. Uh he may say, "I'm out of here." before anything else changes, before they change their minds, and goodbye to my beautiful boat. I'm not going to, you know, it's either the boat or it's me, you know, get out to some jurisdiction that won't transfer me back here. These are things he's going to have to talk through with his attorney.
So, couple of other things um that you should know. His attorney, Terrell Butler, actually spoke with Fox News over the weekend, and this is a super interesting answer uh to the question if he had ever hit his wife, Lynette. Here's the answer. >> He has categorically denied that. He has denied the allegations. And um there was mention of an incident that occurred in 2015. And during that his wife was the one who was arrested and he does not want to dwell on negativity. He has been reluctant to respond um to the claims made by his stepdaughters but he did mention that she has a medical history that needs to be looked in. She's on certain medication. she can be easily influenced and that may be affecting what she's saying as well as her grief at this time. >>
Okay. The next thing I want to play for you is a phone call that Brian Hooker had with friends of his after Lynette went missing and presumably before he ended up in a detention cell because there were four days, right? He um had his crisis on Saturday night, April 4th, 7:30 at night, floated until 4 in the morning on Sunday the the 5th, and then uh he was not arrested until um I think it was uh Wednesday or Thursday. I think it was Wednesday, Wednesday night. And so there were several days there where he was actually on on board his boat, right?
First of all, I can tell you and I'm going to show you these messages in just a hot minute. I can tell you that he messaged friends of his to say that he was actually taken to his dinghy and took the dinghy uh back to his sailboat which was at Elbo Key and then sailed the boat or motor yacht either motor sailed or sailed or motored back to Marsh Harbor. You'll have to look at a map to see the distances here but it's kind of a day trip. So, he was actually sailing in the four days between catastrophe and arrest and probably sailed and hooked right back up to his mooring ball because that's what he texted his friends. And I'm going to show you those texts in a minute.
But first, I want you to hear this message or this conversation that that Brian Hooker was having with his friends. And maybe his friends weren't feeling so good about this, or maybe they felt that it helped his case. whatever the reason, the friends released this to the press. So, uh, here he is talking about the whole cascade of failures the night that Lynette went missing. And you can decide for yourself if you think this sounds legitimate or if this sounds like a guy who is really defensive. Take a look.
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>> That was the craziest night drifting out in the Abico Sea. She basically just bounced off the dinghy in the middle of a a little blow like 20 some knot winds that popped up. I think she tried to swim back to the sailboat to back to our sailboat which was probably I don't know thousand yard or something. Yes. Yeah, I yelled. I couldn't see her anymore. I had I grabbed the flares by then. I came with I had two flares and uh uh they didn't see the flares, I guess. >>
So, in this same vein, I now want to show you a couple of maps that CBS News actually released because uh he sent these maps to his friends and again, the friends gave it to the press. Uh, but this is Brian obviously in those four days where he wasn't, you know, he was free to roam about the cabin. Um, he created these maps to show his friends this perilous journey that that he had taken after Lynette supposedly went off the back of the dinghy and he couldn't rescue her and he had a broken ore and was trying to paddle and, you know, off he went into this blackened sea and and, you know, drifted towards, you know, Marsh Harbor shore. Anyway, I'm astounded that he went to all this trouble. It again, it to me in my line of work as a true crime reporter, it kind of looked like this is a guy who's really protesting too much, making a lot of effort to say, "See, this is where I was." As opposed to, "I don't give a flying Who cares? I want to find my wife. I'm not going to explain anything to anybody. I want to find my wife." That's that didn't seem to be it. It was more, look at my journey. Here's the course I took and here's the map.
So, take a peek at these maps. And it's hard for me to explain exactly cuz these maps aren't they're not big enough for me to understand exactly where I am right now, but by tomorrow I'm going to know. But he has these red lines that are supposed to show where he went and where Brian's dingy route went when he was floating for 9 hours. Uh, you know, with no power on the boat because he says Lynette went off the back with the electric key. In any case, the reason I wanted to show you Brian's maps is because I got my hands on a real map. And so the real map is intriguing because it's a map that shows his actual course. And I have it because Brian's watch plotted a course and his stepdaughter daughter Carly Alessworth um she used to follow the course. So, she was looking at the course and she was following it along. It's sort of like it's like plots on a line and then the line connects. I'm trying to make heads or tail of it. There's a video and there's a still picture. And again, I think I need to talk to an expert about what exactly it shows us, but look, I'm just going to tell you from, you know, my not very learned mariners approach to these maps. Um, I'm struggling with how perfect the lines are.
So, for instance, if Brian leaves Marsh Harbor and then follow the red, you know, arrows, ends up at that big long thing way off on the right in the blue water. It's Elbow Key where it's beautiful and there's restaurants and Hopetown's there and I'm going to take you there tomorrow. Um, that makes sense. The arrow makes sense. He's headed with Soulmate and Lynette on board to uh Elbow Key. But what doesn't make sense is if El if if Brian is now drifting aimlessly in the dark water uh in the little dinghy with a broken ore and no ability, you know, to to maneuver. Uh why does the course look identical on the way back? Like the course follows exactly the same track as Soulmate did on the way there, it seems. And I know one thing. When you're blowing in the wind in the thingy, you're not keeping a straight course. H you're kind of all over the place and you're sure as not following the exact same course that your yacht did on the way there. They may have been sailing with GPS, which keeps you on course. When you sail or motor with a GPS, you kind of like it's almost like a game. You just you you follow the course and if you start to steer that way, you get back on course. So your line is very very specific. And if you return, you tend to return on the same line. So those lines are right on top of each other. Now, if your watch is taking you away the hell over here in the wind, uh you're not going to follow the same course that your yacht did when you were on GPS under power. So this is my impression of this. The one thing I cannot tell you is if the if the times of this plot were exactly the times of um what Brian said happened at 7:30 at night until 4:00 in the morning. That's what I'm trying to pin down. Uh, but once I get a a good old Salty Mariner captain to talk to me about this tomorrow, I think I'll have a better feel for this. And I sure hope I sure hope that the police have this um, and that they've been able to look at this and compare it to what Brian says happened and to the maps that Brian has drawn to what this watch actually plotted um, with GPS. I love that stuff. I love it when the electronics tell us a different story or at least confirm a story. It might do both.
So, those are really interesting aspects. And of course, this is super interesting as well because I was able to get this directly from the family and the fact that Carly Aworth, Lynette's daughter, was able to go to sort of the digital uh popcorn trail. I don't know if Brian either knew it or forgot it or cared. I don't know, but she's got it and she gave it to me. So, thank you very much, Carly Alsworth.
Maps aside, I want to share with you some texts now. So, you've seen the maps that Brian sent to his friends and they released to the press and you've seen the real maps that his watch plotted. Whether they're the same time frame or not, I'm working on that. Um, now I want to give you the text messages that Brian shared with his friends and that his friends shared with the media. Again, I'm not particularly certain whether the friends were so suspect of him that they released it to the media or maybe thought that his texts would help his case. Uh, but they released the text. So, here we go.
Um, this one friend says to Brian, "Did we just see y'all on the news? ABC World News said Lynette fell off boat." And Brian answers, "Yes, brother. I'm afraid so." off the dinghy in some choppy seas on the way back to the sailboat. The wind blew me away from her and she swam towards the sailboat and we lost sight of each other pretty quickly as it was just about sundown. I drifted and tried to paddle with one ore for the next 7 hours until I washed up behind the shore of the next island over and was able to get some help finally. We are all still searching. A lot is going on right now, but I thank you for checking on us. Being on the news is a huge burden, and I just had my first ever news organization call me a few minutes ago. You're in our prayers. Thank you, friend. Our family is in hell right now. Search and rescue just called and said they had searched so a bunch of areas today and no joy. They are going back out tomorrow, but a storm is coming in on Wednesday. And then the response is, "Please keep us informed and if we can do anything, let us know ASAP."
All of that happened on Monday evening. That would be a full 24 hours since Lynette supposedly fell off the boat because they were leaving Elbow Key around 7:30 at night. Okay, so that was at 8:31 p.m. on Monday. But at 8:17 a.m. the next morning, the friends send this text. I know the pressure on you is hard. I am praying hard and if you need to talk or anything, let me know. Do you have a place to stay on island or are you staying on boat? Any way I can help, please ask. And Brian responds, "Good morning, Daniel. Thank you for reaching out and supporting us. I got the boat back to Marsh Harbor yesterday after the fire department brought me back my dinghy. I'm on a moing ball at a place called Conchk Inn, staying on the boat. My sister and brother-in-law are flying in later this morning to stay for a couple of days, and I will probably stay with them for a night or two while weather happens, but then I plan on heading back out to the site and continuing search. I will most likely definitely need help in the future, but I just don't know what that is yet. I'm trying to take it a day at a time and keep the faith. Search and rescue is out again today before some big winds come tomorrow." And the answer comes back. We are here to help any way we can. Currently in Shreveport, but our boa is on the northshore of Lake Poncha Train. We was actually going to buy a sailboat this week and bring both boats home to Shreveport. If you need anything, I will help where I can. And Brian answers, "Congratulations on your sailboat, Captain, and thank you for your kind offers. I will be in touch as events unfold."
I want to go back to that text he sent about the fire department bringing him back his dinghy. So, I'm just going to give you a real crude look here. If this is Marsh Harbor, they're staying over here at an inn and they've got a moing ball which they hook up to and they stay kind of regularly and they use the uh services of the inn. But they wanted to go over here to this island, Elbow Key. It's very long and stringy. So they sail up and over and over to Elbow Key and then they drop anchor or pick up a moing ball and then they take their little tender, their little eight foot dinghy and go in and party and have drinks all day and have fun. Then take the dinghy back to the boat preparing to sail all the way back, right? But the accident happens from the dinghy to the to the sailboat that was, you know, mured or anchored just off of Elbow Key. All right. So, his dinghy blows in the nighttime and hits this side of the the shore at Marsh Harbor and he goes up on shore and he goes through all the woods and the bushes over here to get help. And then he gets his dinghy back. Whoever from the fire department got him his dinghy back. But how did he get back to the sailboat? I think somebody There's a ferry that goes between. So, I'm sure that the ferry went cuz you're not taking that dinghy. There's no way. that's way too far to go with this little two horsepower kind of dinghy. So, he probably took the ferry and then got someone to take him out to his sailboat and then sail all the way back because he said that he's uh I'm on a moing ball at a place called Conchin. Well, that's that's way over here. So, he got that sailboat right that he never made it. Lynette never made it to the sailboat. He never made it to the sailboat. He blew in the dinghy over to this side of Marsh Harbor and he's supposed to be on his mooring ball over here. Well, right now he's over here. So, somehow he was sailing the high seas while people were looking for Lynette. I find that weird, too. In those four days, wouldn't you kind of stay put with your yacht right there and like search in that area where she's been missing? No. He got his sailboat all the way back and around. Uh, so, okay, that's a bit weird. Why Why did you need to be over on the moing ball? Maybe it was expensive, but it's free to drop your anchor. Um, you can find safe harbor just about anywhere and you can drop an anchor. So, I am finding that odd. But he did say, "Fire department brought me back my dinghy. I'm on a moing ball at a place called Conch in staying on the boat." So, he went all the way back over here while all the search and rescue is going on over here. Okay, that doesn't bode well. Anyway, everybody's different, but that's sort of informative.
I can also tell you that um this has been really tough news for Lynette's family back here in the US and um they are in conversation right now and I'm recording this at 20 to 10 at night um just about an hour ago. They have been in conversation with the US authorities over there. Coast Guard was helping to do investigation. I don't know if any um FBI officials ended up there. I I can't tell you that but I will find out. um to continue their efforts on the US side to do an investigation because if an American dies overseas or if an American dies at the hand of another American or a person dies at the hand of an American um they have jurisdiction to investigate and they do. And so the hope of Lynette's family is that the Americans are continuing their investigation and that something may actually yield from that. That's the word from the family tonight.
I also have a scheduled phone call uh and interview hopefully with um uh Brian Hooker's attorney uh Terrell Butler. Uh she's been pretty busy as you can imagine. Um so hopefully I can get a little bit more information uh from her when we speak, but she's busy trying to deal with him, get him out of uh jail and get him figured out because he's in jeopardy, right? Um, no matter where you are, typically there's no statute of limitations on murder if that's what they're looking at and if they're just trying to collect enough evidence to to charge him. They just didn't have enough in this time period. You know, there's a short window. You can hold somebody and you can't hold them indefinitely. So, that 72-hour extension ended at 7:20 p.m. tonight. Out he went. But where he goes is going to be really interesting.
Um, so keep a um a close eye on this podcast and subscribe because I'm going to pop this content out pretty regularly from the Bahamas. And if you like it, please like it because it really does do us a solid. I s I really do appreciate uh your support and it does help the podcast. Um, but that's what I've got for now. And I've got to be honest with you, I uh I I wasn't expecting this that but the closer we got towards the 720 p.m. deadline, the more I thought they got nothing. They're they're literally going up to the wire because they don't have the goods on them to charge them. Otherwise, they'd have done it today. They didn't need the deadline. But when you need the deadline, it's cuz you're hoping every minute something will turn up and you can actually, you know, um effectuate a charge that will stick because once you charge somebody that's not indefinite either. There's also a window there. The clock starts ticking. Um, I can't say in Bohemian law that it's exactly like our constitutional right to a, you know, a speedy trial. But since US law is born of British law and so are the Bahamians, their jur their their um, criminal procedure, same thing, mostly from the same tree. I would imagine they have a speedy trial statute there as well, or at least a right to a speedy trial. So, if you get charged, you have the right to a speedy trial. And if they don't have the goods on you, they got to go to trial with whatever they got. So that's why they don't charge until they know that they can at least get the ball really rolling and maybe make a speedy trial. It's all a game of chess. It's fascinating game of chess.
In any case, I'm really wondering if Brian Hooker is going to stay in the Bahamas. I'm really wondering if Brian Hooker has his passport tonight. I'm really wondering if he's eventually maybe tomorrow going to jump on the ferry. Long ferry, probably not. Flight. Uh about an hour flight, about 100 miles. um to Marsh Harbor to get back to his yacht soulmate because at this point that's his asset. That's a big asset. That's his home. It's his house. They were living there. They were living the dream sailing into retirement, you know, on on um on the on the yacht on Soulmate. So, I'm really wondering what the next 24 hours is going to bring and 48. But I can tell you this, it's going to bring me to the Bahamas and I'm going to update you all the way along the way. Thank you so much for listening. Thank you for watching at my mom's house. Um, and remember this, truth isn't just serious, it's drop deadad serious.