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Sam Shamoun STUNS Bryce Crawford Over Biblical Rebuke

Shamounian Explains17:26

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And I think if I'm being completely honest, one of the intimidations to me of Islam is not the content of Islam. When I when I'm thinking about, oh, I'm going to talk to a Muslim, the thing that kind of intimidates me is, at least the videos you see online.

Um, they they appear strong, they appear firm, they appear like, oh, oh, like I know better than you do. And it's almost like the way that the information is delivered, it's like they deliver it in a way where you're not going to be able to respond to this. So how, how are you, what kind of, I don't know. I guess for me practically, not even just for me, but for other people that are listening, kind of like how do we, when we're talking to Muslims, not get intimidated by their rhetoric?

"Second Timothy 1:7 says, 'The Lord did not give you a spirit of uh timidity, but of boldness, right?'"

Yeah. And sound mind in Romans 8:15. You haven't been handed over a spirit of fear. Fear is a weapon of Satan. What happens when you get bullied and you don't stand up to the bully? It keeps bullying you, right?

Yeah. What happens when you stand up to the bully? Then you expose the yellow belly that's got a yellow streak, right?

Yeah. Muslims because their religion starts from Satan. Satan is a narcissist. Muhammad is a narcissist. Satan loves control. Muhammad loves control. So what do narcissistic bullies do? They try to intimidate you, bully you to control you.

When you stand up to them, then you expose their cowardice.

Then their victim mentality comes, uh, comes to the forefront. The problem with Christians in the West, I don't know why or how this started. Christians in the West equate being Christian with being soft and effeminate. Yeah, that's, this is what I call the feminization of Christian men. I'm not trying to get into the red pill. I'm not, no Andrew Tate. That's extreme. That's satanic. Nonetheless, there are some truths in all lies. If you read the Bible carefully and look at early church history, the prophets and the apostles were not sissies, right?

They were bold lions and they would put people in their place. They'd even insult people and even curse people who deserved it. It's all throughout scripture. But for some reason, something happened in Christian history where we did a 180 where now if you're bold or rude or in someone's face, you're now considered un-Christian-like. Have you read how Jesus talked to the Pharisees and the scribes and the money changers?

"You brood of vipers." He called them fools. And if you look at the words, idiot, stupid. He called them adulterers. And through the prophets, he said very graphic things about them. Right? So, but I'm not, again, nonetheless. So, I, my style, I'm very rude. I'm in your face. Now, sadly, I am extreme at times because I'm a sinner. But I balance out the other side that's too weak and soft and timid. We need the balance of boldness, biblical masculinity for men and not be intimidated by bullying tactics because you have the truth. They don't. So what they lack in substance, they make up with barking and you got to see through that.

Yeah. Question, question then on on top of that, I'm thinking of First Peter 3:15, right? It says, you know, in your hearts, honor Christ, your Lord is holy, and always be prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks for the hope inside you.

But notice the, the, the context. Whoever is asking you, give an apologetic. Do so with gentleness and reverence. To whom? To those who ask you. M.

What if they're not asking because they want to know? What if they're asking to bully you, intimidate you, to blaspheme? The same Peter then in Second Peter 2 says to those people who are perverts and perverting the gospel, he calls them wild beasts, good for nothing but destruction. And he calls them dogs and pigs who return to their vomit. That's the same Peter in Second Peter 2.

So, there is a balance. I know what First Peter 3, but what's the context? Whoever asks you. Well, what if they're not asking you to learn? What if they're trying to bully you, intimidate you? What if they're trying to censor you? What if they're trying to mock you? Then read how they treated such people like in Acts 13:6-12 where there was a false prophet, Elim Jesus, who opposed Paul's preaching in order to hinder him because he was a sorcerer. Paul calls him son of the devil, enemy of all righteousness, and cursed him with blindness. He called him, "You son of the devil, you enemy of all that is righteous."

Does that sound like he was being gentle?

No. No, that does not sound like that. I guess, I, I guess one of the things that I, well, first of all, let me, let me say this. I'm right there with you on this side of like feminine and it's too much. You do have a balance. I'm right there with you. I think the thing that, like, is hard for me sometimes, particularly with like Islam, is is that issue you run into. A lot of them, they don't want to learn. They want to get a gotcha on you.

Well, that's what I'm, I'm, is it, is it throwing pearls onto swine?

Matthew 7:6.

Is it? So then, then here's my follow-up question to that. Is there, and this is all me just genuinely asking, trying to understand.

Is there a time and place to then throw pearls on swine?

No, you never have a time and place. Though, what you do is what Paul did when he saw Elimus wasn't interested. What did he do? He cursed him and ridiculed him. That's their treatment. "You son of the devil, enemy of all that is righteous. You will not stop perverting the ways of the Lord." He didn't even entertain him to talk. He cursed him. When I say curse, not like curse like F word, F. No, no, that's not what I'm talking about. He rebuked him and invoked God's judgment on him. That's what I mean by curse.

And yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Not like, hey, your mother, you know, I'm not saying that. [laughter] Okay.

Right. Right.

So when you see those people, you are to rebuke them, chastise them, block them, and remove them. To engage them is to do what Jesus says don't do because they're not there to listen. They're there to clickbait. They're there for clips. They're there for numbers and money.

And so you are now being used by their father, the devil, to allow them to blaspheme the Lord, mock the Lord, attack the Bible, ridicule Christians, and cause weak Christians to lose their faith. So you're complicit.

Very interesting. Wow.

You're complicit. So then what is the, I guess, I don't know if this, like, yeah, that's very fascinating. So then is there, does the Bible then say there is a purpose for exposing them?

It says Ephesians 5:11, "Expose the deeds of darkness." But exposing what they do and their tactics is one thing. Engaging them in just, you know, a shouting match or engaging them when you know they're not listening and they're going to talk over you. Then what's the purpose in that? There is no purpose. In fact, you know what Titus 3:10-11 says?

What does it say?

After the first or second warning, avoid a heretic, a contentious person.

After how many warnings?

Two.

So why do we keep doing it? That's Titus 3:10-11. Do you have your Bible? Look at it. I don't know if you have it. I've got it outside of my backpack. I.

If you want to put on screen, brother, biblegateway.com, homie.

Great website.

Yep, it is. I use that. Biblegateway.com. Titus 3:10-11. Titus 3:10-11.

"Warn a divisive person once and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful. They are selfish."

So, why do you keep engaging them?

Totally understand. And I guess, I guess another follow-up question then is the language, the language that you've described in the Bible. Paul using to these people, even, even church.

I gave you a very clean example. If I show you how graphic it gets.

Well, even, well, I even know like, even the early church fathers, like they would address heretics like, very graphically.

Very graphically and very intensely. I'm right there with you. Something that I'm trying to understand, I guess, is you have the Bible who would describe as human beings as a whole being of a different moral value because they're made in the image of God.

The same Jesus who set their image of God, who called them dogs and pigs?

Well, that's what I was going to ask you. That's my question. Is, so then is, you, is calling someone a dog or a pig or.

Okay. Well, you answer the question. Jesus who created them in his image, he says they're dogs and pigs.

So, answer that. Matthew 7:6.

I don't know. That's fascinating to me.

Matthew 7:6. Bring it up for my friend here.

So, you can't take scripture because a person can corrupt themselves to such an extent they now face that image of God within them and they're worse than beasts and animals. What did Jesus say not to do?

"Do not give dogs what is sacred. Do not throw your pearls."

Who are the dogs that he's talking about?

The Pharisees, right?

But what are they? What are their nature?

They're people. Humans. You mean?

Yep. Humans.

You just said they're created in the image of God.

So Jesus created, called his image bearers dogs and pigs.

I, I guess so.

Well, you're guessing it's right there, brother.

I'm just. So I'm, that's what's confusing to me is because.

Why is it confusing to you, man? The Lord's telling you.

Well, I'm, I, no.

Some image bearers of mine, they're worse than animals. They've corrupted themselves to such an extent. Gotcha.

They are now dogs and sons of Satan.

Gotcha. Okay. It's not. It's that they have corrupted themselves. That's what he's saying. I see. Okay.

All right. In fact, here, if you open up the screen, my brother, from a different mother.

Which your screen keeps going going off. Rebuke that demon by the power of Jesus Christ.

Okay. It's, this is language all throughout scripture. It's not only Jesus saying they're dogs and pigs.

So when it comes up, you'll see.

Peter, what did I just say? What did he say about those who heard the gospel of truth, walked in the gospel of truth, but then fell away and perverted for heresy? You're going to see what he calls them. So now here it says, "Do not give, do not give dogs what is sacred." And that's NIV. It's a little more of a paraphrase. "Do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet and turn and tear you to pieces."

Now, open up Second Peter chapter 2. Second Peter chapter, just right here. You're going to see those who came to faith, who were saved, who were bought by the Lord, who acknowledged the Lord, but then they fell away to introduce damnable heresies or licentiousness, meaning using the grace of God as an excuse to live immorally.

Well, look how Peter describes them. If the screen keeps shutting off, then we're not going to look at Second Peter 2.

Doesn't it, doesn't it say their faith is counted as unrighteousness? Is that, is that.

No. Second Peter 2 is saying it's on about those who came to knowledge of truth. You may need your Bible, cuz their screen does keep shutting down. I don't know what you want to say.

Grab my Bible really quick.

Yeah, brothers. All right. Yeah, just get your Bible, brother, cuz it's not going to work.

Thank you, man. I appreciate you.

Jihad, brother, make sure you leave this interview raw and unedited.

Oh, we don't edit anything.

Good, man. Jihad, they sent this guy. His name is Abdman Abdul Alwad. Okay.

Okay. You said Second Peter 2. So.

Start in verse one.

Verse one. What did they do?

"But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you who will be secretly bringing in destructive heresies."

False teachers, right?

Yep.

And what are they going to introduce?

Heresies.

Heresies. Okay. So when you denying even the very Lord that bought them.

Right. Okay. Now what, what does he say they're good for? Verse 12.

It says in verse 12, "But these, like irrational animals, creatures of."

They're irrational animals.

Yes.

They're worse than animals.

Even tamed dogs, they're like gray bead dogs.

Yeah, it says scavengers that.

"Blaspheming about matters of which they are ignorant, will also be destroying in their destruction, suffering wrong as the rage for the."

So you see Second Peter 2:12. One more time, read that again slowly. See.

"But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and destroyed."

Oh, so he says they should be destroyed. Peter says that about image bearers of God.

Yeah, that's very fascinating.

Now read 20 to 22.

I, I love to. You said to read 20 to 22. "For if after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them. The dog returns to its own vomit."

So they're nothing but rabid dogs who eat their own vomit and then what else are they?

It says, "And the sow after washing herself returns to wallow."

They're dirty pigs. Peter.

Interesting. So I guess, I guess my, my, my final question on that subject is.

How do you.

Determine what language to use.

Yeah. Well, I don't do it perfectly. So I'm not infallible. I'm not inspired. So there are times I, I acknowledge I cross the line. [clears throat] Do I want to? No. But myself because I'm a sinner, imperfect. I have my own ticks. Meaning there are certain things that trigger me because I'm weak. I know when someone deserves to be rebuked because they don't come to ask to learn. They're coming to attack and mock.

That's, I, you know, by the nature of the question because either they will not answer the question or when you go to answer the question, they're already cutting you off. That means right there they're there to try to prove you're wrong. And I understand because I do that to Muslims. I don't ask to learn. I ask to show them why Islam is false. But because I already know the argument and I'm trying to answer, when they cut me off, then they show that they're not there to listen. So I'll either block them, get rid of them. But if they get nasty, then Proverbs 20 here, if you don't know how to interpret scripture in light of scripture, you're going to create contradictions when there are none.

Because in Proverbs 26:4 and 5, those two verses contradict each other.

Right?

They contradict each other. Proverbs 26:4-5. Why? Because if you go to Proverbs 26:4 and 5, four says, "Don't answer a fool according to his folly, lest you become like him."

It's Proverbs 26:4.

Y.

"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, according to his stupidity, foolishness, cuz then you'll be like him. Right?" That's verse four. Look at it.

Says that, right?

"Do not answer a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him in, lest you be like him yourself."

But verse five contradicts that. It says, "Answer a fool according to his folly."

Lest he be wise in his own eyes. So that's a contradiction. No, it isn't. Because the Bible tells you it's not black and white. There are times in which you ignore an idiot. Times in which you expose an idiot and show how stupid he is. Why? So people can see he's stupid because he may influence people who think he's smart, but he's stupid and he's dangerous. So then you got to expose him for the sake of the flock.

So that comes with discernment.

Yeah.

But none of us have perfect discernment. And that's why I've offended people. But if you actually look at it, what's ironic, the language I use is all in scripture. People haven't watched my live stream, so they don't know what I'm talking about. When I say that's Revelation 17, the whore of Babylon. And all her daughters are. It's the word whore. For example, dog or pig or stupid. That's Matthew 23:17. Jesus called them stupid. If you look at the word fool, it means stupid.

So, it's ironic. I use biblical language. They don't know it because of this effeminization of Christian men.

That. And I said, "Well, hold on. I was just reading the Bible. I just heard Matthew 23:17." Yeah, but you're not Jesus. But you're telling me to imitate Jesus, right? [snorts] Oh, only imitate Jesus in the places you like.

I see. So, for example, bastard. Hebrews 12:8, it says, "If God doesn't discipline you," and the word is, "Then you're a bastard." Hebrews 12:8.

Wow.

It's there in the Bible, man.

Yeah. And if you look at the Hebrew and Greek idioms, it's much more graphic than in English. English, English, they soften it down. Don't believe me. Just look at any commentary. I'm not here talking about justification. I'm just saying to answer your question. For example.

Would you be shocked if a man of God said, "I'm going to take the dung of a dog and smear it on your face."

I think at initial hand, yeah, shocked. Yeah.

You have an issue with God telling Malachi, Malachi 2:3, he says, "Go tell the priests I'm going to take the dung of their animals and smear it on their faces." It's literally the Hebrew. Malachi 2:3.

That's very interesting.

So, you have a problem with Malachi. So, why don't you get out of your Bible? [laughter]

Wow, that's interesting.

Malachi 2:3. Because the priests were offering Malachi is right before Matthew.

Yeah.

The priests were offering defective sacrifices of defective animals. And they knew better. You know what he said? I'm going to take this. Go read the Hebrew word. It's what's in their intestine. The the dung.

The crap. And I'm going to smear the crap on your faces. "Behold, I will rebuke your offspring and spread dung on your faces, brother. Spread dung on your offsprings." And.

What is that? What is that?

Oh, it's poop.

So, you just told me you had a problem with your Bible. That's so fascinating.