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[Music] Thank you. Hello everyone. Welcome to another amazing day at fmtraining.tv. My name is Margaret; I'll be a broadcast engineer for today.
Hi everybody. Good to see you guys. I'm here with the wonderful Nick Hunter and Ken Dooley, as we discuss what has been a very hot topic in the FileMaker Community since it became like, since it was brought up, which I would say oh, a couple months back, maybe maybe the beginning of the year. Oh, here we go, when we sing the load, but ChatGPT and FileMaker, which is a really interesting topic.
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So, uh, today we are talking about ChatGPT. So today will be like a discussion about, okay, so what's going on in the world with this? Because, you know, um, I'm involved in this, uh, um, in the in the AI stuff since a long time, because it's a it's something that interests me. I, personally, I have multiple hobbies, but one of my favorite hobbies is the learning history, you know, uh, with a big H. And uh, so that's something I love; I love to do. As I always said to my friends is, no more, you know, being half Greek, half French, if I'm not, uh, you know, passionate by by history, there's something wrong with me, uh, you know, since I'm um, my origins are from two major, you know, big history country, right? So and um, of course, uh, it's uh, it's something that is helps you to understand the present and then to anticipate the future, right? And then you're not so surprised.
I remember in 1985, so I was 14 years old, I told my parents that I want to be in a computer business, and my father, the first thing he told me, he said, okay, here we go, a new professional jobless guy. Okay, so, uh, because in 1985, who knew about computers and who won the computer? It was, you know, we had this um, vision of computers, a big rubber bands, you know, with a lot of light flashing and all, you know, like, you know, the computer of the 70s, right? So and uh, and they couldn't understand that. But in 1987, when I first organized the the wedding of my cousin using a brand new software called Nashoba FileMaker, so it was before Claris, right, uh, people try to understand that, yeah, it's cool; it's pretty cool, you know, to manage to have a computer to manage the the, you know, the the thing going on in the wedding, the the flowers, the food, the guests, you know, the venue, all of these things. So, so that being said, um, so today I I want to, so first I want to do a like a quick poll. So who is using ChatGPT? Who know about that? And uh, who is afraid about this, you know? So they have a discussion like, because I'm monitoring, I have the chains of uh, offer uh, knowing like those five languages, so I'm I'm monitoring things, what they say in France, what I said in England, what they say in the United States, what they say in Italy, what they say, so many in different countries, so what they say about this, uh, how they feel about this, because you have different countries that feel differently about this, uh, and I want to uh, I want to put a perspective, uh, if if you if I may, uh, about what it's all about. Okay, so let me share my screen, right quick. So we talk about ChatGPT stuff, right? So this is how it looks like; this is a version free; that's a version four, but um, it's you need to pay for it, so I'm not using tuition form in history. It's not the first time that this happened. Okay, that means the the events in the history that put the most of the people out of business, you know, a billions of billions of people throughout the ages out of businesses, the guy who invented this, you know, who the guy who invented this, put out of business billions of people; he pretty much saved the life, you know, of billions of people as well, not not having to carry weight on their back. Okay, so it all starts with this, you know, so this is a this is the event in history that took the most of the people out of business. Okay, and then we start, you know, domesticated animals, right? That also put a lot of people out of business, you know, imagine uh, being able to travel uh, to have, you know, cars and stuff like that with with hosts, and then uh, use the horse in the, you know, in the in the field and domesticate the ball to also use in the field and uh, and the donkey, right? So also put a lot of people out of business, right? And then I want to count you some some a cool story. Okay, and maybe many of maybe maybe many of you doesn't know that this is how you in the past you were harvesting the wheat for the flower; this is how you were doing; you were using a flail, that the this instrument like and to uh, beat, you know, beating the the wheat and then you get the the seed out of the, you know, and then you were getting the flower, you know, but at the beginning to take to get the flower uh, you need to to use this, you know, it was a manual uh, uh, you know, the grinder was something manual, like pretty much two stone, and you were, you know, and you were doing that manually to get you wheat; you have to get your flour. Okay, so this is how you were getting the the flower before, and then something happened, something really really hard happened, you know, because flour was the base of of the food of that people, you know, this is the bread; bread was the base of food, right? So uh, something happened; this happened: The Windmill and the Watermill. Then they start to make that automatic, and they and they put billions of people out of business, you know, the flower to making the flower, and people say, what the hell is going on? No way, no way we're going to do that; we're not going to allow that to happen, right? So what they did, those people peasants that were uh are working on the fields on the in the dirt and they were using this kind of shoe, and this kind of shoe in French we call that a Sabot. Okay, that is the word to to to, you know, to name this; this is the name of that shoe, to Sabot. So what they did is, okay, we have this shoe very strong made of wood; we're going to toss that inside this mechanism, and we're going to break it, right? We are going to go to every single meal, and we're going to break them; then they won't be able to to make the flower, and then they will need they will need us again. So this is a word sabotage; sabotage came from here, from the French word saboter, which means tossing this shoe inside the gear of the windmill and the mostly Watermill to to prevent the people to do the flower automatically, so it starts with this. Okay, so and we and it started; it was so big in history that throughout the languages in other words, sabotage is now the name to say when you willingly break something to prevent it to work. Okay, so um, it came from that time. Okay, so to to show you how big that event was, you know, the The Windmill and the Watermill. Okay, so but what about this guy? It put billions of people out of business: the copyists, you know? So now we can print books; we don't need a guy or 10 guys, five guys, you know, doing the drawing, writing manually; we don't need those people anymore, which were uh, pretty much the monastery people, you know, there's some famous, infamous uh, movie that um, you know, I encourage you to watch, which the name is the name of the rose with uh, uh, Sean Connery and um, uh, Williams William uh, I don't remember his name; it was only one of his first um, it's a great movie made by a French guy, but uh, so and they were it's a story about this time where they were copying manually the books, right? So this is what they were doing before, so they were pretty much people monks working on Monastery Monastery and they were copying their, you know, copying the books. So this guy put billions of people out of business through other ages and still doing it. Okay, so now what about this guy, Thomas Edison? Okay, I put billions of people out of business as well, you know, I've, you know, with all this invention about the electricity in the bulb, you know, what about what about the guy we wear, you know, our uh, lightning lightning and uh, shutting off the gas light on the street and stuff like that, so they put a lot of people out of business. What about this guy, Nicholas Tesla? He invented the modern electric model which we still use today, you know, this magnetic field coil rotating motor electric model, so I invented this. Okay, so he put gazillions, billions, zillions of people out of business because he invented that model. Okay, I'm not talking about the what the the steam; I'm not talking about those things. And what about this guy, Graham Bell? Okay, he put a lot of people out of business as well; you don't need to carry something and you don't need to go to visit something to talk to him; he invented the telephone, right? And of course, what about this guy, you know, Charles Goodyear? He invented—making a mistake during a day was uh, it was um, uh, angry; he made a mistake; he does something and invented the tire, right? I didn't put billions of people out of business, you know, of course, yes, because without his invention, no cars start; the cars that makes the tire is the tire that makes the car; believe it or not, it's like the television; do you know why we have today uh, television with two billion channels? Because one day a guy was so lazy; he invented the remote control. If we don't have the remote control, forget about the two billion channels. So the remote control made the TV, and all the TV made the remote control, right? Where what about this guy, you know, he invented the transistors; without this guy, there's no computers; there's no ChatGPT; without that guy, you know, he invented in England the transistor, right? And to finish this story, okay, what about this guy? Okay, he put a billion of people out of business, you know, because uh, he came with, first of all, computer, the let's say it's not it didn't come with the computer; it came with the computer you can use at home. Okay, a computer that you can use at home, a personal computer that his invention, you know, it's nothing to do with the PC where they were using before, because if we were using PC today, we know no ChatGPT, right? So he invented the computer, invented the iPad, what about the disk industry, what about, you know, the the city industry; all this is gone, and then he did again, right, with the with the with the videos where he put all pretty much all those video clubs; you remember that you were going to the to the, you know, uh, the corner of the street or the video club renting your VHS, right, tape and then watch it and then come back later the day later and getting back, so this could definitely gone because of him. Okay, so but now so there's one commonality between this stuff, you know, we put out of business physical people, you know, we put uh, you know, human strength, human muscles, uh, human automation, we human hands, human feats, human uh, you know, physical; it was physical; we we remove the burden of repetitive tasks; robotization, so far it was robotization; it was um, repeated in task; all of this gone, you know, gone throughout the years, right? But in the same time, so my job came up. So what happened is, so far, so far what we did is we replaced physical jobs by intellectual jobs. So I mean, okay, no more uh, car manufacturing hand with hands; all robots, that means computers, that mean engineering, that means robots, that mean, you know, so we created jobs with the with the the brain, right? So that's what happened, like, you know, my job either before you had a somebody with a, you know, uh, a big a big storage with full of papers, and you had somebody like looking for peppers, right? And you had somebody counting, you know, counting; do you know where the computer, the name computer comes? Okay, it comes from in the in the in the accounting, in the accounting office; a computer was a guy. Okay, it was a guy, a physical guy, that was his job to compute, to calculate, and then the first computer machine in the world was to calculate stuff to replace the job of the computer; that's why we call that the computer. Right now, you know, we are we need to face this as the human race; we have to face many challenges in the future, and I can name some of them. Okay, uh, of course, the AI will change the world like internet changed the world; I lived in a world without internet, right? Okay, so I live in the world without remote control, by the way, you know, I'm 52, so you know, I I know what it is to get up and change manually the channel; I know about this and the black and white TV, by the way. So we five channel. Okay, so yeah, we only had three, yeah, three, yeah, three, four, you know, yeah, it's uh, so the world is completely different right now, you know, and internet changed everything, but there's no internet with a computer; there's no computer without uh, Tesla, there's no or branding, you know. Okay, so it's an evolution like this. Okay, so we have now we have something new coming; it's the AI. Okay, and uh, so that that's the presence; the future will be how we we how we're as a human race we are going to deal with uh, mechanic mechanical intelligence, artificial lives. Okay, so that would be how we can we're going to treat them, right? And see how we have uh, still there's problem with slavery today; imagine in the future what really what what we will have to to to face, you know? So uh, so I discussing, you know, I have a lot of discussion about this with many people, lawyers and uh, and and I have a friend of mine in France is a a video clip producer for singers um, in France, and he told me, actors, oh, good luck, you know, good luck, and they said I said, why? I said, why actors? They're so happy because with the AI, okay, uh, you want the movie, you want the uh, you want to watch the Titanic, the the Titanic uh, actually arriving in New York? How? Okay, Carl, you know, ask the AI, make me a a Titanic uh, story, but I don't want the the the the bow to sink, the ship to sink; I want to I want to ship to, you know, to to arrive, and I want to see Jack and I don't remember the girl uh, you know, getting married in the having a lot of kids, you know? So you want this? Okay, they are; you will will build you a movie for you, right? And you have and this is today; this is not tomorrow; this is today; you have you have it; we can do it, you know; it's arriving in in the future; you won't have any actors; why you want an actor? Oh, I want uh, Clark Gable playing in uh, and Star Wars. Okay, yeah, no problem; I want Clark Gable and Lauren Bacall in in Star Wars, you know, and about Ronald Reagan as a Darth Vader; I can do that if I want, you know, and there's no problem, you know? So that that means actors going out of business; why you want to pay actors? Why you want to pay all those people doing all that crazy stuff? You don't need that; the music is the same; why you why you want why you want to play to, you know, a singer? I can I can resuscitate uh, Frank Sinatra and sing uh, a rap if I want; I can do that that today; I can get Michael Jackson to sing uh, you know, whatever whatever I want or, you know, I can resuscitate deaf; I can invent; I can get my voice, you know, and sing like Michael Jackson, you know; we can we can do that, and we can invent the theme; you want the style of your music, the instrument you want to use, you know? So I I know about the music industry because I, you know, I'm a music player; I'm, you know, I'm I'm instrument player, so you know, you know, and and I saw things completely crazy, you know, completely crazy uh, what what we can do. So the AI is going to to make a revolution complete in the art industry; why you want to enter? Why, you know, why you want a singer? Why why you want an actor? Why? Okay, so why you want a lawyer? So let's go back to this; so why you want a lawyer? Because I can, you know, you can ask ChatGPT and say, okay, I want to know about uh, you know, or I don't know whatever you want, and the ChatGPT will get you the low immediately; will get you; will tell you how to interpret it; will get you all the jurisprudence uh, we'll give you all the case uh, this case versus this case, this case versus this case, all all bam is there; why why you want a lawyer? You know, why you want an accounting? Why you want to Banker? The, you know, pretty much in the in a very near future people uh, you know, the bank will disappear, you know, the physical bank that will go away; then we go as soon as they get rid of the bank of the bill, you know, the paper the pepper money, as soon as we get rid of it, because that's the next step uh, when I will get rid of this that gun, you know, there is totally gone; the why you want the banker? You know, the AI knows about your account better than you do, right? And they anticipate your your, you know, your your expense and say, okay, hey, be careful, you know, that today that today, you know, my Chase app, that Chase app telling me, okay, if you if you continue like this in five days, you will broke, you know; that's that's the app is doing that today, right? So there's a lot of jobs like this will go away um, are and uh, and all the lawyer jokes are going to go away too.
Your jokes? Yeah. Well, as you just talked about, we're losing one set of jobs, skills, etc.; they're being replaced by a new set of jobs and skills; we'll have to change too.
Yeah, exactly. But this is where we this is where we land. Okay, we are going to uh, replace and remove the low-skill um, inter-track job, you know, the low scale into the intellectual job; that means uh, we will still need a lawyer; I talked to a one and many about this, you know, um, and say, oh, what how you feel about this? Oh, I'm not afraid, and and I said, why? Why are you not afraid? Oh, because uh, we will need the super expertise; we will need there for them, or the singer singer will still exist, but on neither extreme; talented singers, actors will still exist; only the extreme talented one. Okay, lawyer will, you know, still exist; only this very talented one, the one that will make the difference, the one will be when the one we we will know how to use the the AI, because you need to know how to use AI; it's not something that uh, you can just ask; no, that's a way to use the AI, you know, and I'm still learning; I'm not an expert at all, you know, because you need you need yours, and in the same time as we learn to use the AI, the AI learns how to be used. Okay, so it's a two-way interaction always, so it's always changing. Okay, so yeah, we have a job out of business, that for sure, you know, replaced by other jobs, you know, and but if you want to stay in business, right, you need to be uh, the best in what you do. So we we need to the humanity now is going to face something; is going to face to be uh, even the even better than better; otherwise, go away, you know.
I'd say it's a challenge; I I I perfectly understand, you know, it's perfectly understand that uh, it can scare people, you know, or like, you know, like I remember a friend of mine; it was a photographer, but not a photographer taking photos. Okay, he was a photographer making the photo, right, not taking the photo. So before to make a photo, it was all process, when all the process. So that reminds me a big story, you know, or and uh, I think everybody knows about this uh, you know, this company, Kodak company; they were the world leader by far in term of photography; I don't know uh, anybody that is more than 30 years old that never use the Kodak product. Okay, so it was something, you know, or they were leading the world, leading the world from the from taking the photo with the cameras to printing the paper, right? They were leading all the chain, all the food chain; they were from the top to the bottom. Okay, and they disappeared in five years; disappeared from the surface of the planet completely or completely disappeared; why? Because they wanted to fight against the wind; only the fool will fight against the will the wind; you can't fight against the wind, you know, uh, it's it's impossible, right? That means the AI is there. Okay, so now that is there; deal with it; otherwise, be Kodak. Okay, just go away, you know, go fade away, you know? So now talking about FileMaker, right? So how okay, and let's say the coding business, okay? How ChatGPT can help you uh, I am since sometime now I am no longer using this; I'm no longer using this the FileMaker hub, right? Why? Because why? Why you want this? This is 1985 technology, and why you want to fight the new technology, right? Like this, I was asking something like this; it's very simple, um, you know, what is the text limits uh, in FileMaker fields? That's it. So you have the answer; that's faster than that table of contents page loaded, right? So uh, or you can go there and try to do the same, right? So this is the the first thing you can do, uh, you know, uh, you can do something; tell me how to use GetDates uh, function in FileMaker; I realized something that if you say this, he likes it, you know, boom. So why you want, you know, so pretty much you don't even need Nick Hunter anymore, right? So you have this; you can copy the number for this; we don't need you.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, need to do for other things. Yeah, you I will see that it's still doing the same mistake, even if I taught him how to fix the mistake; he's still doing it. Okay, because it hasn't added to the database. Yeah. So uh, so you see it explained to you how it works, right, uh, and how you can expand its with month with year with day, you know? So this is a way, you know, to to use um, uh, GPT with FileMaker, right? Top Cat has a point; in order to ChatGPT to know about FileMaker is because the help of FileMaker is open in the air, right? So ChatGPT is doing this; is taking all, for example, for pharmacists, taking all the help; pretty much he's taking everything about FileMaker, but that could exist uh, you know, the help, every topics, every every website talking about this, every, you know, or a question answer like uh, FileMaker today or whatever, you know, all those websites uh, that exist about talking about FileMaker and feed with with it, you know, and sometimes feed with the with the stupidity of this as well, you know, that's why learning stupid things, and sometimes you tell it; it tell you some stuff completely false. Okay, because it trusted like like a human; we trust things, you know, sometimes we trust things, you know, we we wish certain the Earth was flat, and we still have people, you know, thinking about it, but you know, so and every single intelligence can be fooled. Okay, it's not it's it's an intelligence, so and uh, and you have floats, you know, when you have when you have intelligent because it can think and can decide. So when you have a decision making, you already have the possibility of a mistake; if you don't have a uh, if you don't give somebody the the the the ability to decide, there's no mistake possible because there's no decision taken. So um, one thing uh, so what about two? One thing to to do find annoying is how variables all answers are; it's obvious which blog are written by AI, which is human, right? So that's what I tell you; it's variables, but sometimes could be, you know, so can then say, okay, too long, uh, you know, summarized, right? And you can even make a mistake like I did, so you you can ask your staff, right, and uh, and you can and you can even ask in different languages, you know, so he knows to speak I don't know how many languages. Uh, so another question; we have a question; do you integrate ChatGPT in FileMaker? Yeah, so that that's the purpose of all this um, web all the webinar we're going today; today was just discussion about uh, if you have a curiosity about about this, if you you know, if you you know, uh, I gave you my perspective on this, you know, about the understanding I had. So uh, yes, it will be a game-changing in the entire entire world; the world won't be the same anymore. Okay, journalist is gone; the job of journalists that gun uh, but not all journalists; the what I call the the couch journalism is is out; I mean, we was the couch journalism is the journalist in the couch uh, uh, retweetering. Okay, uh, re-exerring, because now there's a Twitter is no longer exist, so uh, you know, all of those people are gone; the the journalists uh, going where the bone was falling. Yeah, this guy is still in business; the AI won't go in Ukraine or whatever, you know, under the bomb and reports, right? That won't happen; that that kind of reaction that it will still happen, right? But you you know what I mean? So the journalist is a good example because you have a bunch of people, useless people, that those people out of business, replaced by uh, because we don't need to do what they do, right? And um, especially those people used AI to write their articles, so it's better to get rid of them and just write the with the AI directly, uh, but you know, and in FileMaker, so you can use FileMaker as a teaching tool, right, as a teaching tool, um, for example, um, how to create a table in, you know, something, you know, in FileMaker, right? So follow this, and you can create a table, right? What is a relationship? So now he knows that I'm talking about FileMaker; I don't need to know; I don't need to tell if I'm because you know what is the relationship, right? So he explained what it is, right? So it's uh, it's a good teaching tool, you know, learning learning tool, a very good learning tool; can you show me? He gave you an example, customer table, order table, right? So this is something cool, you know, uh, uh, how to debug us Scripts uh, performed on server; I'm just making up, you know, this is the
Yeah. Yeah, there's number one which you did last week. Yeah, it's a good it's a good uh, you know
Yeah, number one is what we talked about last week; we actually did that last week. Yeah, exactly. You know, let's debug locally, you know. Yeah, enable, you know, I'll review some event log. Yeah, this I don't know about this; I need to log log data table. So pretty much you can ask whatever you want; as my last update in September of information named Nick intervene; you get that out of Oregon Dean; you get that out of FileMaker; that of ChatGPT. Yeah, I got something similar earlier; it it doesn't know you; you didn't exist up until September 2021. Yeah, that makes sense; that the time we we pretty much stopped the, you know
Yeah, the stream stuff. Yep. I'm surprised because nobody they don't talk about people, but uh, they they must consider me like a people, a public figure, so they can talk about this because normally they don't talk about names, you know; they have a strong privacy; they don't give address; they don't give a, you know, and unless it's something like public, right? So um, yeah, that's interesting. So uh, do we have still condensation? It's gonna be a new thing; instead of Googling yourself, you'll be chatting yourself. Yeah, but you know, so now we have we have the the war of the AI, so everybody will come with the AI; the worst AI ever so far is the Apple one because they have none, um, and uh, I don't know what they're doing, but uh, they got fooled, totally fooled uh, at five at Apple, and that Steve Jobs mistake um, they both uh, uh, this Siri stuff, you know, and uh, that was I know that because the guy who invented that crap was a French guy, so we know he's known in France by having food Steve Jobs with something completely like well, you know, so but it was the only one available in that time uh, like it was like a personal assistant; it was the in all the good; it was a big; do you remember that name on Microsoft? He had this this guy on the bottom of the screen on Windows, name Bob or something like this; there was the clip; there was the there the paper.
Yeah. What is the name of their Microsoft uh, window virtual assistant in the late 90s?
Yeah, Bob. Yeah, see, I remember that was Bob; I remember Bob, you know, Bob was it was a little guy that was listening to you, right, um, and uh, Apple was doing something similar name or uh, what is Apple Casper? Uh, doesn't know, but I uh, uh, you don't know about this uh, virtual uh, what's the name uh, as a virtual assistant made by Apple? No, he doesn't know; it doesn't look cap Apple Casper, but you know, right? Apple Casper, right? I've never heard of that; as my last update in September 2021, I don't have any information about Apple virtual assistant specific name, Apple Casper. You know that that's that I'm surprised about this; who knows about Casper? It was the ancestor of the I'm surprised that nobody, but that was in the 90s. Yeah, Casper, that Bob, that that guy; I always knew him in his Clippy. Yeah, so okay, so it was the uh, it was a a project, you know, they they were, you know, Apple in the in the late in the late 80s and early 90s, they they love to do like a really nice videos about the future, right?
Yeah, I remember some of those; those were great.
Yeah, yeah, they were great fiction, but then it never came to fruition; yeah, never, and it's still not still it's not there, you know, we still don't, you know, but some did; I remember one that basically ended up being iPads and AirDrop.
Oh, man, you know, the video was you're right from like 1990, 95 maybe.
Yeah. But the next big job that's going to go away because I know that because I have a friend of mine in Colombia uh, when I was there that has a one of the biggest or call center in Latin America. Okay, so um, and uh, he said, oh, you know, I I'm sending the the the, you know, the building, and why? Because because you know, my my office would be like a two-story building in a regular a two-story office in a regular building uh, because everything will be visual, virtual, everything. Yeah. So uh, and I I use one day one of those uh, virtual kind of a call center stuff; it's incredible; it's impossible to see the difference, but it's impossible; you you it sounds like a human; needs and he knows everything about you; is not everything about what you need; he knows everything about what you wanted, you know, because you can access everything, you know, so like it's, you know, it's so now today what we have is the uh, we have roadblocks, you know, roadblocks; for example, uh, if you want to ask your your letter is not arrived on time, for example, right? You call FedEx and you know why, and uh, it cannot it; so many of the systems are not connected, so that that the problem, the the the difference between connection, right? The disconnection of things, so more and more and more we'll have connection; it's like a brain, by the way, you know, more we will get everything connected and everything compatible. Okay, so that's what we need to do; so we need to work on the compatibility, but then you have the competition coming along, because the one that will have the more connection will get the the AI more, the most efficient, so that will win the competition, right? And the the the fear of the of many of those people in the AI industry is to get at the end to have only one AI that will be the problem, you know; if we have only one, okay, we we should we should have many, right? And that shouldn't be governments uh, controlled, right? Neither should be uh, one; it should be like a human control; I don't know, like a uh, you know, open-source kind of stuff, you know; it should be like something completely uh, free, you know, and see how it goes, you know? So well, we we we we we heard about many stories about their schizophrenic uh, uh, you know, uh, mindset of AI stuff like this, you know, how no how and some and some people said at the end we should we