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Okay, sweet. We're here. We're back at it. Cool. So, um, we are, I'm here in LA with the phenomenal, amazing, great Freckles, amazing voice, Demi Hawk. How's it going?
Good. How are you?
Good, good, good. So, um, I know a little bit about what you do, but got to tell me, like, what you do and how you got in the industry.
Yeah, so, um, I've gone mainstream, right? And you, you were always mainstream. You, like, you just re- what, like, the last year and a half?
Year and a half. Yeah. Okay, cool. Cool. It'll be one year in like the summer. Okay, cool, cool.
And but before you did that, Chaturbate and camming and all that chatter?
Before chatter, actually, I had my OnlyFans. Um, and that was like my first, like, online, I think I posted to, um, and yeah, like, like I danced to get through college and pay extra bills and stuff like that. So I just kind of always, you know, loved this kind of life, right?
Right. So you were, you were in college and you were dancing to get through college, and then the pandemic happened?
Yeah. And that's when you started jumping into OF, right?
Yeah, so like the pandemic happened. I was like, clubs down, everything. I was just like, what am I going to do? I kind of like, when I was dancing though, I was sort of like, okay, I'm going to do this, get through it, and walk away. Nobody's going to know. I'll go live my life, maybe working marketing or art or, you know, I went to art school for photography, actually. But I was sort of a plan. And then the pandemic happened. I was like, wow, like the world is kind of different, kind of more unstable. And let me just commit to this. So I, you know, created Demi Hawk, Twitter, and Reddit, and started my OnlyFans.
Yeah. Boom, boom. So how, how did you come up with the name Demi Hawk?
I would play like baby name books. No way. I did. Okay, that's interesting. I did. I picked out like, I had like five. I can't remember the other four now. Like, it's such like, you know, in the past. But I picked out like five names that I thought sounded good. I didn't want to use the same like dancing under. I wanted something like different and like not attached to where I lived. I was so nervous when I first went online, right?
You tons of people out there do. Do you talk about where you live now or you still like don't?
Now, now it's like, I'm a lot more open. I live in Los Angeles. I live in the Valley. But everybody lives in Los Angeles, right? It's different. And it's like, it's posted more publicly because, you know, like directors need to know, companies need to know, like I'm based in Los Angeles. Um, you know, I would say like the state that I lived in. But I, I kept, I kept pretty private for a while, right?
No, as you should. Because you thought people were like, did you have like crazy fans?
Um, you know, yeah, I still, I still do, really. It's just kind of one of those things. Like, not every fan is crazy, but when you do get that one crazy person, you don't want them to have access to any kind of information that they could be crazy with, right?
What's the craziest thing like a p?
I don't, I don't know. It's just like creepy messages. Like they're like, uh, like stuff like, oh, you know what a creepy message I get from time to time?
Oh, no.
From time to time. Okay. They have of. Okay. People will send me something along the lines of, oh, I saw you. I saw you at the grocery store. I saw you at this restaurant or wherever. And I didn't say hi to you, but I saw you.
That's creepy. And that's creepy. Like, you should have just said hi.
You should have just said hi. Right.
As opposed to like, I saw you and I know where you're at.
Right. Yeah. Yeah, that's creepy. No, no, no. That is creepy because they don't think it's creepy.
What it is, it is. It's a little weird. I would be way less creeped out if someone just like, oh, hey, like, big fan, can I like get a picture or something? And like, at the grocery store, that has happened. Happened in places. That's happened at the dispensary a few times.
Oh, dispensary? Yeah. And I'm always like, in sweats. I always look so rough. Like, yeah, okay. And you're like, yeah, I don't want to take a photo, but I will.
Yeah. So what's, what's life compared like to dancing compared to OF, compared to, you know, being on the Hub net?
Um, you know, it's like, it's a lot more visibility and attention. I'm a Leo, so I really off.
Oh, you're a Leo? Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool. But, um, I also like, I miss the, I miss that in-person. Like, there's something about it. And like, I love that I can mention.
Oh, you get to be with people in person and like, like stuff the cash in my bra. It's my favorite thing. Really? Really is. I think I'm gonna start feature dancing this year.
Really? Okay, cool. Like, just go like a little tour?
Yeah. Okay, cool, cool, cool. So you'd like that, like, in-person interaction at the club?
Okay, that's interesting. Because it's like different because when you're on set, it's like, you're there and you just leave. You don't have to build a relationship, right?
Not necessarily. I think it's good like to kind of, you know, I'm friendly with everybody on set and I have like good working relationships. But I'm flirting with the camera and that's not a person, right?
Right, right. You're flirting with a camera. Do you like creating that, like fantasy that's in the club?
Yeah. Did you like lean into different, like, you know, different fantasies based on the person or was it like based on your own interest for the night?
Um, you know, like I've had my regulars and I know. And even on cam and even, you know, when I make content on OnlyFans, I know what my guys love and I love to give it to them. I love to it to that they just like, they want.
So what are they like? What, what do you?
They what are you cater? Um, some of my favorite things. Like I love doing foot stuff.
Really? Foot stuff?
Yeah. Oh, like tell me about that. I have really small feet, actually. Like size three. I have no idea what that is in girls. It just sounds crazy small. So like most, like women's shoes like go down to size five. I end up like buying a lot of kids, which is actually cheaper.
Oh, wow. Kind of nice. Do you have? It's like hard to tell. These are like a five. Big. Okay. These are small. Like comparison. Like my hand is the same size as your foot.
Okay, that is a pretty small foot. Um, but I love like foot jobs, sucking my like foot job suck, like giving like with your toes, jacking somebody off.
Yeah. Okay. Are you good at it?
What's the technique? Keep a lot of abs. It's like your lower abs, like to keep your legs up and like, basically like your hip flexors, like keep that up and keep moving your legs up and down. And like, kind of a weird.
That's a workout. That's a like hip flexor ab workout for sure.
It is. I've never done that before. So get ripped.
Oh, get ripped. That would be the new thing. Different ways to get paid while I'm getting ripped. I've always wanted to get paid to get ripped. So there's something in there. Okay, got it, got it. Um, that's wild. So everybody thinks that your voice is fake. What do you, what do you tell people? And like, it's been happening all your life, right?
All my life. Yeah. I have like little sassy quips that I, you know, get back. And people like, like, oh yeah, I'm doing this for your benefit. I knew you would be here today. And so I talk like this my entire life. Just where I tell people. People ask my cam all the time, what's your real voice sound? What's your?
It's like Darth Vader. It's like. The second the cam turns go like straight deep voice.
Um, so yeah, that's. Does your mom have a high voice as well? Anybody in your family?
Um, yeah, my, my sister kind of. My mom has a voice really similar, really, to me. Like really raspy and high cuz she smoked a lot. Oh, and so like, we all have like, we're all tiny women. We have like short vocal cords and just all that. And so like, and I, I started smoking like 13.
13? Oh my God. Jesus. So it's just like, it's just this rasping, high voice, right?
That makes sense. That is. How's your dad's voice?
Regular voice. Like, not really low or anything.
What's like the lowest you can get your?
This is good. This is the spot. That's the.
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Lowest. That's wild. That's wild. So you have, you have this face that you do that people request?
Oh, yeah. Right on Chaturbate. Like, what's the face? It's called a, and that's like, means [ __ ] silly. Silly in Japanese. Yeah. Okay. So that's where that work. And that face, you know, comes from is like, and like, oh, like I'm out of my mind. Like I'm coming so hard. I'm [ __ ] silly.
Right, right. And what's his face?
Oh, that's a good face. That is a [ __ ] that I like that face to be [ __ ] silly. Like that would be nice. That's good.
So when did you start doing the freckles? Like, um, I've always had like some natural freckles. I started adding to them. Um, I had like more acne, so I would wear really, really heavy foundation and I wanted the freckles to show through. So I started doing it, doing it more and more. And it's just like, it's it's my thing now. Like, so some of them are real, some of them are added to.
Yeah. I like freckles. I'm a big fan of freckles. Yeah. So, and you do, you always do the three right here?
Yeah. These ones have always been here. Really? Yeah. Really. Like those are real. That's legit. This is this is unique. Wow.
So you won awards. You've won awards for best body?
Yeah. I won. It was 2022 in the Camy Awards. Okay. So that's camming world, cam girls. And that was super exciting. And that felt like a big deal to win that award of petite girls. Kind of because a lot of times in that category, you see, you know, like a very typical curvy porn body. And that's beautiful and gorgeous. It was really cool to be like, oh, we get to celebrate all kinds of bodies to be the best body. And I was like, it was very, very fun to like stream that with my fans.
That's cool. So how did, is it like our, it's all fan voting for the Camys?
All fan. Wow. That's pretty dope. That's pretty cool. That's really cool. And you've been nominated for multiple AVNs?
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just this past year, like you were nominated for two.
Yeah. I was nominated, um, in The Fan Awards again for favorite female, which was amazing. My fans like got me on that list. Um, and then I was nominated in just the straight up AVN for Fast New Starlet, which is, yeah, also really cool. Like that's something you can only ever be nominated for one time.
Wow. Wow. So you can, so you can only be nom for one time, but you can, it can be like, you can be like four years in and be nominated. How's that?
I don't know how they did the. It has to be the first like year or two that you're born or that. I think so. Most of the girls at least this year, I want to say everyone with no more than two years in.
Okay, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, that's awesome. What's, what's like your goals move forward? Like, what do you see yourself like better?
Yeah, bigger, better, more. Like, do you like camming more or you like mainstreaming?
I love doing both. Yeah. And I always intended to like keep camming the entire time like that. I started doing porn because I just, I feel like they both kind of add to each other. Like I have new fans from porn watching my cam. My cam fans, like long-time cam fans who are so excited to see like my new porn stuff and like see me doing like new endeavors. Like doing both. I could never like, I never want to do just one or the other.
Yeah, that makes sense. Do you, because Chaturbate, you can do a lot that you can't do on the other camsites. Like my free cams doesn't let you do a lot, but like Chaturbate, do you utilize that? Do you do boy-girl stuff on Chaturbate? Do you do girl-girl? Like, what do you do on Chaturbate?
I'm gonna start doing boy. I'm super excited about that. I've done a few like a couple years ago, I did some boy-girl shows. I've done tons of girl. And that's always fun cuz like a lot of times I just have my girlfriends on and it's like, we would just be hanging out and kissing each other anyway. Like, let's just make some money while we do it.
That's dope. Yeah. Okay. So for, okay, give me like the, like for Chaturbate, for a cam session, like run me through the process. Like your average cam, you know, how long it is, what you do, what do you start with, what clothes do you start with, clothes do you end with, like that kind of aspect?
So, um, yeah, I usually start setting up like an hour before I get online. I set up all my lights. I set up my goals. So we usually do like just progressive. Like, like once we hit this many tokens, I'll do this. Wait, this many tokens, I'll do that. Um, sometimes I'll do a ticket show, but I like to be like in the public open like viewing for my shows. Like the ticket shows like it takes you off the main page. Once you're in that ticket show, like people can't, unless they have a ticket, of course.
And how much are the ticket shows?
Depends. It depends on like what I'm doing. I've done like boy-girl ticket shows like 200 tokens. Something around there.
Okay. What's, how much, what's the token? Is it like 20 tokens is $1, right? Something like that?
Yeah, every token is a nickel. Okay, got it. Okay. Yeah. So like people, when you buy tokens, I think it's between 8 cents to, but the payout is always five cents. And that's all I care about, right?
So yeah, that makes sense. So, and how long do you usually go on Chaturbate?
About three hours. Whoa. Three hours. Um, four hours twice a day, every day.
Oh my God. Was this like an addiction or just like a hustle?
Kind of both. It was both. When I first started, it was very much like the first got on Chaturbate, I would do six hours a night, every night, no matter what happened, no matter if I made like 10 tokens or if I made 10,000 tokens, I was on six hours.
Wow. You're committed. Yeah. So what made you so committed? Was it enjoyment or was it just like, you know, I'm gonna keep going until I make this money? Like, you had a monetary goal or it was?
It was very monetary. And it was like, it was monetary in the moment of like, okay, I got to pay my bills. I gotta, you know, like get all that now. And I want to have a big, long-lasting career where eventually I'm not in a place where I'm sitting here for six hours stressed out that, oh [ __ ] if this doesn't go well, I'm not going to pay my bills. I want to have that fan base and that loyalty and that established career where that it's just, it's fun and it's no stress. And I have, I have more of that now. I'm so happy.
That's cool. That's what was like your biggest cam night? Like the most ever made?
In the most I've ever made, I've had some really big cam nights. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I've made like, I made like $2,000 in a night. I've had like guys, like a lot of my big tippers, they want the least. Like especially on Chaturbate, camming websites like that, they love to see you happy. They fall in love with your personality. So I've had guys come in, drop a $10,000 or 10,000 token a token tip and then just be like, okay, I hope you have a good night.
Wow. And you're like, all right, favor this guy. Whoever this guy is. We message him every time.
That's cool. What's like the average for, um, average? Maybe like around 500.
Okay, cool. For like a three-hour session? That's cool. That's good. That's way better than. And I think about like, I'm just sitting at home. I don't do anything. I don't want to do. Like, if I don't feel like up to, you know, sitting upside down and [ __ ] my [ __ ] whatever, like I can have a more chill, a more chill day, right?
That's cool. Do you do the upside down in the [ __ ]?
Oh, yeah. I do upside down in the splits. In the splits? You see, I'm trying to imagine this. I can't even like imagine it. That's crazy.
What's the craziest thing that like, uh, that's happened on set or just in set? Give me one. Just think of this crazy thing on set and then craziest thing like just in regular sex life.
I got to pull a really crazy move on set recently, like for the first time on camera. Um, like I've been waiting to pull like some split or something. It's, um, a full scorpion on my chest and my legs are up over my head in front of my face. Wow. And then, um, there were a bunch of girls there. I think it was Vanna was eating my [ __ ].
Vanna Bau? Yeah. Yeah. Vanna is eating my [ __ ]. And, and okay. And I'm like, I have my ass over my head.
Oh my God. That's crazy. What was that for? Adult Time or what was that for?
That was, yeah, it was a feature that we just filmed. I'm so excited for that to come out. Has it even come out yet? It hasn't come out yet. It was directed by Susie Q and Michael Vegas. And it was their first feature they directed.
No way. My first feature I acted in. Every a bunch of. And then Vanna's first eating [ __ ] in scorpion. Exactly. There's a lot of first.
Wow. Vanna cleaned up this year. Ava, she did. Yeah, she did. Why do you think like, it's like, you know, it was, it's just people, different people there, you know?
It is. It's definitely. It was the year of Ava, I think. That like it was all really well deserved. I think she was a part of a lot of amazing projects this year. Um, you know, and and so obviously like that wins, that wins a lot of awards. And I was so happy to see her like cleaning out awards and going home with all the trophies.
That's awesome. That's awesome. What's something that, um, you know, there's a lot of different things or people you would work with and anybody like stand out? You want to work with?
I know. I don't really have like my wish list of people to work with. There's definitely like people that I would be excited to see their name when I call she.
Oh, yeah? Like who? Like who?
I don't know. Yeah, I don't want to say.
So you were telling me about your, yeah. Oh my God, tell me this story. I want to, I, you know, I, uh, recently a couple, like last month, me and my girl broke up. So I want to hear your story as well.
Oh my gosh. Well, it was like, it was just a series of mistakes, honestly. We actually broke up last year at AVN. Like the first day at AVN. We got, we were road to breaking up for like months already.
Yeah. Test, test. Yeah, there we go. Sweet. Yeah. Yeah. We've been on on our way breaking up.
You, you and your boyfriend?
Yeah. And then there's this big blow up at AVN. I told my girlfriends about it. And, um, my one friend was like, we were, we were like at the convention and she was like, let's go back to the hotel room now, get your stuff and just leave. And you'll be out of there. Cool. Broke up with him a few months later, feeling weak, feeling lonely. We got back together. And it was just so toxic the entire time we were together. One of the worst things was that he wasn't letting me shoot content. He was making it really difficult to webcam. He was telling me to turn down certain shoots or not work with certain guys. And it put me, like, it was so frustrating because like it [ __ ] with my money, you know? And then I was in a position where I wanted to break up with him. I wanted him to leave. And I just, I couldn't get him out of there until.
Out of your house?
I couldn't get him out. I literally could not get him out. I didn't want a fight. I didn't want like a huge, you know, like he's like three times my size. And I just, I didn't want everyone's.
Three times? That's fair. That's fair. I wouldn't want to get into it.
So that just went on for months. Like daily, like fighting and telling him like, I don't want you here. I don't want to be in this relationship. Like, and I would tell him like, honestly, like, I think you're kind of ruining my life. Like, I don't want to be with you at all. We fought all through AVN this year. And, and the last night of AVN, I, I kicked him out of the hotel room this time. I was like, I'm not finding a place to stay. You are. And that's that. He got the last of his stuff, like last week. And, oh, wow. I'm shooting all the content, taking all the scenes. Yeah. I'm living my life. I'm so happy.
That's good that you liberated yourself out of that. Yeah. I'm glad it wasn't like worse. Like it didn't go crazy.
Yeah. Yeah. That's crazy. So what, how long were you together?
We were together. I mean, like since we met. He was actually the first guy I shot professional porn with.
No way. So he's in the industry?
Yeah. He's like super. So yeah, he's like, he should like know about. He knows about everything. Why was he trying to like stifle your success?
Jealousy. Jealousy. You know, like, I, I don't even know. I think part of it's like insecurity and, and being, being jealous of other guys, being jealous of me going out and being successful and making money and working a ton. If he's not working a ton or whatever it is. Like, I, on the one hand, I'm like, I wish I could understand why people act like this and why people are so manipulative and mean and controlling. And, I mean, he was telling me like that I couldn't shoot content on camera money and cheating on me at the same time. He was cheating on me. He was cheating on me. And I would never.
How did you find out he was cheating on you?
Oh my God. What the. Like, he was like, don't have sex for work. But then he'd be cheating on you with other people off work?
Well, how did you find out? The first girl he cheated on me with, like, it was just like, it was so obvious. He was at his house all the time. And he was like, oh, I'm just like watching Gilmore Girls with her. Whatever. I'm like, okay, all right. Yeah, right. He put a calendar up. Like she's, she had a merch, like calendar of like photos of her. And he came back to our apartment and put up a calendar of her one time. I like, I was so mad.
So that was like right before. Calendar of another girl at your place? You're cheating on me? That you're cheating on?
Wow. He was just thought he was like unable slick. Like I have no.
That's that. That's beyond slick. That's like just rubbing your. That's his kink. Like his kink was the.
She [ __ ] like one of our mutual friends. Yeah. And I went, she told you. She told me. She was like, hey, he said like, not to rub it in your face. Um, but like, we had sex. And I was like, okay, like, thank you for like that. And she's like, yeah, I thought that was such a weird thing to say. Like, don't rub it in her face.
Wait, like he lied to her? He was like, oh, she's cool with this. Just like, don't bring it up.
Oh my God. So were you mad at her at all? Or you weren't?
Because I really wasn't. Because like, he said to her, like, hey, like, we're open. Like, we're allowed to whatever. She went and she told me. Yeah, I can't really be mad at her. Like, I'm not dating her.
Yeah. That's so crazy. That's wild. Was he working like during this time or was it like slowed down or something?
It was pretty slow. Why? Why was it slowing down for him?
I don't know. He had like, before I met him, like he had a lot of baggage. So I kind of came into a situation with a person that had a lot of his own stuff going on.
What was, what was going on? Like industry stuff or like personal stuff?
A lot of industry. Well, kind of like personal. I don't even, it's like a blur. It's kind of a blur. Yeah.
Oh my God. Just like bad, bad reputation. What was, was the reputation like not performing on set or like going too far on set or like not performing on set?
Oh, and for like stupid reasons. Like, what's a stupid reason? This is like drugs. Oh, like I don't want to really like bring that up because like that's like he doesn't do that. But he has like still that reputation. And then I don't even know. Like, I guess he has a reputation with being a jerk to other girls in the industry. And, you know, that's like more of a personal, more of a thing. And, right. I mean, I don't, I don't know why he really wasn't working at the time that I met him. Like I didn't really get into all of that so much. But like, yeah, he just dug his reputation into more of a hole the longer I met him.
Right. But when he performed, it wasn't on drugs. He could perform well. And yeah, yeah, he was good. He was good.
Wow. That's a situation. So would you recommend or not recommend, um, dating in the industry? Or it's just like, very specific one-time case?
Yeah. I mean, like, I wouldn't recommend dating that guy.
Oh my God. I'm so dead. I'm so dead. Do you want to say who it is or no?
You don't have to. I mean, the people who know, people who know, they know.
Okay, got it, got it. Yeah. Like, I'd love to just never hear his name again.
Fair. Yeah. I think dating in the industry is hard. It's hard to date outside of the industry. It's hard to date in the industry. One big thing with like going on dates with people not in the industry is like, oh, okay, by the way, you have to be like tested all the time. And like, I'm not in an exclusive relationship with you, but I do need to know that you're like tested and not [ __ ] people who aren't. That's something that kind of like comes up in my mind.
100%. That makes a lot of sense. So tell me, how's your experience about dating people outside the industry? How's that like?
Tell, tell us. Don't have much. No, not much, really. Like, you've had a couple dates with people outside the industry. How did, how did those go?
I've had, yeah, they were were nice. Like nothing like, yeah, nothing super exciting or super like, like it didn't keep going. No. I never. I think I planned like one second date. Only ever really one second date. Only.
Yeah. Oh my God. What's your policy on like sleeping with somebody on the first date?
I'll do it.
You'll do it? Yeah. I've done it.
Yeah. You've done it. Yeah. So like, is it awkward when they find out what you do or is it like, no big deal? They're just like, ah, they're super curious or have you seen it like it, like changes? Somebody's like,
I usually lead with that.
Oh, yeah? Yeah. Like, oh, like this is, this is me. This is what I do.
Right. Um, cuz like, yeah, if you can't [ __ ] with that, then like.
Right, right, right, right. No, 100%. No, that makes a lot of sense. That's, uh, that's like, I've seen. I've like, yeah, it's interesting, right? Because like, it's either like, you lead with it, or they find out later, or like, there's someone's like, not interested. And then you tell them what you, and then they're like, all of a sudden, then they like, what? You're like, that's weird. You know? So, um, yeah, that's interesting. I wonder about.
What's, what's your relationship goals now?
Honestly, I want to be single for a while. I've never like, for more than a couple months, I've never been single, really. Really. These guys are always trying to lock you in.
Yeah. It's like flattering them.
It is. I think though, like, I've learned, like, not that it's my fault, but I'm the common denominator in relationships with like, shitty men. A lot.
Really?
Yeah. So I think that like, I just want to like date myself.
That's so corny. That's nice. That's nice. Yeah. I feel like, um, definitely like, maybe like four years ago, like I used to date really nice girls. Really like vanilla girls. And I was like, and I remember being so turned off. Cuz we were like, okay, this is the thing. We were hanging out with this married couple with a kid like pretty often. I was like, I don't want to do this. Like, I was just like, eww. So then like, I started like dating like more industry. Like this industry, like dating like strippers. What I was like, this is more entertaining for me. This is like not like the vanilla picket fence like lifestyle. Like I'm like, I need like something a little wilder, you know? I think you can like someone or like love someone a lot, but just not have compatible lifestyles or compatible goals. Like it's nothing wrong either way. It's just like, yeah, I don't want to, I don't want the suburban picket. Yeah, soccer mom card. Like I'm not that. I'm not old yet. Like give me some time. Like maybe like in 10 years, you know, like, but like, I don't want to go on like board dates with my friend and his wife. Just like, yeah, like, hey, come over for a glass of wine. Like, I don't know, bro. This is kind of.
Gives me a headache.
Kill shot.
Yeah. See? It's better. Much better.
So, uh, anything else you want to talk about?
I mean, I feel like I'm pretty much.
No, no, no. This has like been fun though. I'm so glad like this worked out. We finally did it. I feel like we've been trying to do it for a while. Like years.
Like Exotica. Right. Literally. I was on the phone with my sister this morning and I was saying like, yeah, like, like we've been trying to get together since I was just a little cam girl, right? I remember, I remember in Chaturbate.
Yeah. Yeah. So this, I'm glad we finally got to get together.
Me too. Thank you. Appreciate it. Awesome. And, um, tell everybody where you, where you want them to find you.
Yeah, you can find me all over the internet on Twitter or X now, um, and on Instagram. I'm DemiHawk's one. Make sure you just put the number one at the end. And I'm just Demi Hawk's everywhere else.
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