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Sam Cedar, Emma Viglin. It's casual Friday. Want to welcome back to the program Kyle Kolinsky, host of the Crystal Kyle and Friends show and the Kyle Kolinsky show. Uh Kyle Kolinsky, welcome uh to the program.
Thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it. I also I just got to say uh because of the ad I just did, folks are writing in about making sure that you use a GFCI outlet for anything that is near water in your bathroom. And uh yes, I think we all know that. That's an obvious thing. I'm glad we got that out of the way. I did not know that and I would have electrocuted my butthole, but thanks for telling me. There you go. Be careful. You know what this show needs is more bedet talk. That's what the show needs. I think it's got to be I think those outlets though, honestly. Uh it's code at least 24 in. Anything within 24 in of uh water has got to be a uh uh one of those outlets cuz it uh has an automatic circuit breaker. He'll get rid of that rule soon, too, though. They're working on deregulating that as we speak.
Exactly. We don't need those type of regulations. That's how you're going to die, Sam. Electrocuted on the toilet from your bedet. I can think of a lot worse ways to go. Um, all right, let's get into this. Um we're watching of the many things that were horrific in that bill uh that passed um a week or two ago. Um the immigration thing I think is going to be the thing that we feel uh most uh dramatically over the coming you know six months. I mean ICE right now has um something like what was the number of employees that work at ICE? I had this here. It is It is fascinating to see how dramatic this budget 20,000 employees at ICE right now. They're going to increase the size of ICE by 50%. They are pulling um guys who worked in like major crimes unit at ICE like dealing with you know uh cartels and big uh drug runners. They're pulling them off now to arrest moms or grandmothers. Um, [Music] what are you anticipating with this, Kyle?
I mean, I'm anticipating what we're seeing now ramped up tfold. I think that with a budget of like $170 billion, they're not exactly hiding the fact that I think they're going to start very openly and brazenly going after not only legal immigrants, as they already are, but I think American citizens. I mean, Trump has openly said multiple times that we got the homegrowns. We got to get rid of these homegrowns. They're a problem. And so, uh, we already got a report that about 70 American citizens were deported in Trump's first term. And I would I would venture a guess that we're at least at a couple hundred or maybe over a thousand already because he's treating ICE like his Gustapo. That's what it is. You I mean, now the ICE budget is bigger than like the Israeli military budget. What are you planning on doing with all those personnel? And by the way, they're also like deputizing Proud Boys and white nationalists to be the ICE Gestapo. They're pulling over random cars on a Tennessee highway. I covered a story on that recently. And I mean, you see what they're doing. They're they're going into doctor's offices and Walmarts and Home Depot. And just expect this in every city. Trump's now saying the next ones are New York and DC where he's going to try to do the same sort of federal crackdown like we're witnessing in LA right now. It's sort of fascinating to me. We were talking to someone from uh LA Taco, which was a um online like foodie site uh focused on tacos and and some and community reporting that have basically um become a clearing house for all of these reports about ICE and all the uh the stuff that's happening in LA. And uh uh the the host Memo uh I can't remember his last name, but uh Torres, Memo Torres was talking about how like so much of this stuff does not get reported outside of even just their website, never mind on the local news. And that to me is sort of it's sort of shocking. I mean, when you think about how much the Trent Arua, which we never hear about anymore, all of a sudden they just, you know, melted away. Uh but how much we heard about that versus you know what is actually happening in terms of so-called criminal enforcement.
Yeah. I mean to be fair it is truly truly difficult to keep up cuz every day there's another like 12 different absolute horror stories. I mean I'm still thinking of the 288 people who were rounded up and sent to a concentration camp in El Salvador. No due process whatsoever. 90% of them have no criminal record whatsoever. Somebody had a a tattoo for his brother with autism and they said it was a gang tattoo and they sent him there. Somebody had a mom and dad tattoo and they said that's a gang tattoo and they sent him there. I mean, how many stories like this are out there now? We just got word that we already have an innocent person who was sent to Alligator Alcatraz, as they call it. A person had no criminal record whatsoever. They didn't fill out they like forgot to fill out one form for their immigration paperwork and now they're being sent there. And look, I mean, I think they're going to continue down this path and they're going to create more effectively concentration camps. If you are throwing out due process, throwing out habius corpus, rounding up whoever you want and locking them up, then there's no other thing to call that but a concentration camp. So, I mean, I truly fear for the future of this country. I don't see how we get out of this without having basically like new Nurburgg trials and locking up Steven Miller and locking up Christy Noom and returning rule of law because this is the most lawless thing I've ever seen. I mean, this is like looking at what Bush did overseas. This is like the imperial boomerang where now it's come back to our country and they're even escalating it here.
Yes. It it's I think really important to put it in the context of the war on terror. um you know we would not be in this situation if uh that well first of all ICE was a creation um of like the post 911 uh world uh uh uh war on terror kind of expansion of the surveillance state and um of like federalizing uh this kind of policing but we it is a failure of the Democrats who didn't seek accountability for the war criminals in the Bush administration and uh who kind of continued this level of I just uh rolling back of rights or didn't at least aggressively attempt to curtail it and were in this situation in part because of the expansion of the the the national security state uh after 9/11.
Yeah. I mean the Democrats, you know, refusing to prosecute Bush, refusing to prosecute Cheney, making torture just a matter of opinion. Obama saying we look forward, we don't look backwards. That then made it just a difference of opinion as to whether or not your administration tortures. And now we've gone further than that. And now it's a when it comes to due process and habius corpus, that's just a matter of opinion. And I guess the thing that shocks me the most is the lack of the hair on fire approach. I mean, this truly is a hair on fire moment. And the immigration numbers are plummeting for Trump even with the Democrats not talking much about immigration, which show now imagine they also were fighting hard on that. Pl I I honestly think the media some of the media coverage of Kilar Bgo Garcia was a lot of what led to those numbers going the direction they did because that was Holland Chris Van going down there. Yeah. And God bless him for it and God bless any Democrat who is fighting on this. But I still think there's many Democrats at the top of the party who feel like let's tread carefully because this is generally an issue where Trump had higher poll numbers and so we don't want to step on any toes.
I I I think that's exactly right. I mean, I just wanted to because I I do want to pivot to that conversation. Uh, but I just also want to say like, you know, you look at those images of uh ICE essentially attacking that soccer field uh and um successfully intimidating the cones that were on there. And I think the net was looked like they were uh you know going to go the straight narrow. Uh uh and surely those kids at that playground were terrified. But if you look at the gear that they're using, like I mean they look like they could be walking down the streets of Fallujah and it's like what where are the like why like you know like why are they this is such an industry and it's so much of that like you say the imperial blowback this is all came from programs where used equipment or uh overbought equipment for the military In during the Iraq war, there was a a specific program set up to send it back to police departments. And now it's almost like it's not even a special program. It is just part of the whole thing. We're going to gear these guys up. Like they're going in into an active firefight. And I'm sorry, there's no protest that uh makes this equipment uh necessary. There's no rolling up on a guy with a weed whacker or a, you know, mom working at a taco truck that requires this kind of of gear. It's insane. It is absolutely insane. And it's insane how there doesn't seem to be any like, you know, push back. You've got uh we were just listening to uh that that report from California and on one hand uh you know, ICE uh officers are worried about their safety. Are you kidding me? I mean, it's at the point now where the cruelty and the sadism is the point, right? Like, they've raided schools and meat packing facilities and farms and Home Depot and 7-Elevens, and they deported a 4-year-old American citizen with cancer and no medicine. A woman was arrested immediately after she gave birth. A US marshal was arrested. I mean, like, this is it's a horror show is what it is. And if this doesn't really motivate all of us to get up and do something about it, I don't know what will. I did just see a video of when they tried to raid that farm in California. Yeah. You had there was a whole bunch of people really trying to stop it. They tried to block the car with the road. There was a bunch of people throwing rocks at at the ice car. The ICE officers, they brought in a freaking helicopter for some reason to land it on a like it's it's very disturbing. And I you know, I'm curious what you guys think. Who is more driving the car? Because every now and then Trump will say like, "We're going to protect the hotel workers. We're going to protect the hotel workers. going to protect. You know, he has like two or three different types of immigrants that he's seemingly nominally okay with. But then like the same day or the next day, there will be a massive raid on the facilities that he said we were going to protect those immigrants, which makes me feel like Steven Miller is actually the one calling the shots. Yeah. And driving the car. Yeah. He's outsourced domestic policy, I think, functionally to Steven Miller. And you I'm not convinced he hasn't outsourced foreign policy, too. I mean, if you look at that that that signal chat uh with that that leaked uh in terms of that strike against the Houthis, um it was Steven Miller who came in and said uh the boss wants this done when there was a question. He he was the one who came in and everybody deferred to as to whether we were going ahead with that uh attack. Um, and so I I think it is Steven Miller and I don't think Trump cares, frankly.
No, because he knows he can go out and say this stuff and it still it makes him even look even better. Like, you know, like we'll get to the Epstein stuff, but um but I I I think it's Steven Miller for sure. And and uh but regardless, it's Trump. I mean, it's Trump. It's Miller. You know, at the end of the day, it almost doesn't matter. It's really just more why would people listen to what Trump says as opposed to like the observable truth that exists every day. Uh because this guy does, you know, he he talks out of his ass. He'll say anything at any given point. It it's amazing how not only how evil they are, but also how incompetent they are. Crystal was just telling me that there were two different teams that were sent to negotiate with Venezuela and the teams didn't know that there were other people from the US government representing the Trump administration negotiating with Venezuela. So they had two separate deals they were working on and then I guess they figured out eventually like oh wait only one of us is supposed to be doing this. You saw this with HGTH too when Trump temporarily cut off the weapons to Ukraine. Apparently Hegath made that call and then now Trump stepped in and is rescending the weap. It's like not only are they evil, but they're also completely and utterly incompetent. And it's like they're it's just so scattershot how they're approaching governing.
Yeah. And it's it's in part because they're responding to the whims of somebody who's absolutely uh out of his mind. And like I think in terms of him outsourcing policy to Steven Miller like this, you have to wonder if he's begun, we know he knows he's lying regularly, but he has to start to believe some of his own spin because there's nobody around him that's telling him anything different. I mean, I when he goes out and says we're not cutting Medicaid and the bill the bill the big ugly ass bill just destroys the program. It destroys it. Um like how do you explain that disconnect? It's either just basically his complete insanity and disconnect from reality or he's surrounded by a bunch of conspiracy theorists who give him false information that gets him to believe and work backwards from his conclusion. I I think he's so used to lying that it's like lie inflation. The lies get like more and more absurd to the point where he's telling people like it doesn't cut Medicaid at all. You got to protect Medicaid. There was a report that he was talking to uh House Republicans telling them one thing you never do is cut Medicaid. And this was at the same time he was pitching the big beautiful bill which destroys Medicaid. And so it is so hard for me to wrap my mind around this. I mean, I say this on my show all the time. If the Republicans say they're going to do something good, they're lying. They're going to do something bad. If they say they're going to do something bad, they're telling the truth. They're going to do that bad thing. That's what it's become now.
The um let's talk about the the Democratic leadership because um the polling you're right the polling and there's a new poll out from Gallup. 30% say immigration should be reduced. That is down from 55% last year. It is a 25 point shift uh on whether immigration numbers should be reduced. 79% 79% say immigration is a good thing for the country, which is an all-time high. 17% say it's a bad thing. That's an all-time low. And that has changed um you know, uh it was in 2024. I mean, that's gone up by like uh almost 15 points in in the past year in terms of whether immigration is a good thing. um allowing immigrants essentially DACA to stay in the country shot up by only about four points, but that's at 85% approval. Allowing immigrants to get a uh a path to um uh citizenship is at 78%. Um significantly expanding the border wall with Mexico, 53% in 2024, now down to 45%. deporting all immigrants who are living in the United States illegally back to their country. 47% in 2024, 38% in 2025. Like you say, this has been with not a Democratic party that is just awall on this issue. They have been chasing the Republicans like their argument is we're going to do what they're doing. It's just going to be you could trust us more. There is no immigration policy that the Democrats have that is articulable in contrast to the Republican policy because it's basically the same thing just being more polite about it. And I just want to add one more number to this because I think it's really important. On Trump specifically in Gallup, it's 35% approve of his handling. on immigration specifically. 62% disapprove and 45% disapprove strongly. Those are incredibly hard numbers uh of disapproval for him on this issue in particular.
There you go. Yeah. I can't tell you the last time I've heard Democrats make a positive affirmative case for immigration, which is like really not that difficult a thing to do. I mean, the economy absolutely needs it. If you just mass deport 4% of the population, the economy absolutely implodes. In my experience, these are some of the best people that are in this country. They work hard. They take care of their family. They're incredibly polite. They're law-abiding. You know, the numbers are what they are in terms of their criminals at a much lower rate. These are like very basic things and I never hear the Democrats say it. Which means that the public has moved on this solely as a result of the horrors of the pictures and the videos that are coming out of the military invading LA and har and ICE harassing innocent people with masked thugs. By the way, why are they wearing masks? They're wearing masks because they know fundamentally what they are doing is illegal. What they are doing is immoral. And so I got to say though, my feeling on this is that I'm kind of pissed overall because I, you know, I look at it like you guys didn't know Trump was going to do this. Like you didn't know Trump was going to do this. It it always was going to be as ugly as it is. I mean, they were holding up mass deportation now signs at the RNC. Trump was out there saying, "They're eating the cats. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the pets." That was in reference to legal immigrants, legal Haitian immigrants. That was the sign, hey, we're not just going after gangsters. We're not just going after criminals. By the way, that's not a novel idea. Any president of any party wants to go after, you know, violent criminal undocumented immigrant immigrants first. And so it sort of like I'm kind of frustrated. It almost reminds me of this. Like Rogan's been doing this, too. Like, can you believe that they're that they're, you know, going into Home Depot and taking people out? Yes. Yes, I can. How did you not see it? So, I almost want to shake these people back to reality, but at the same time, I should they got their tax cuts. They got their tax cuts and now now that now they've grown a conscience about this kind of thing.
I think No, go ahead. No, you go ahead, Sam. Well, I the the thing that frustrates me here is that you see Trump's numbers cratering on this. You see the American public shifting their perspective on this and what political party is situated to benefit from this, right? You would think it would be the opposition party, but no, they have no there's nowhere to land here. I mean, it's fascinating. You're just basically like there is it is it is such an abject failure on the part of of Democratic leadership to articulate a position. There is such a fear on this topic and we have seen last time that Trump was in office and then it changes because the Democrats don't have any type of push back on this. This is frankly I'm I'm I'm quite convinced it's you know we're going to see the same thing with uh trans uh uh opinion polling as well. when there is an absence of an opposition parties um uh position that is actually trying to litigate against this. You're not always going to be winning on every single day, but at one point because it's the right thing, you're going to win ultimately, but they're not positioned to benefit from the cratering of this stuff. It just they're just it just makes them look weak, which is if you start to look at like the polling uh on on the Democratic party, you know, you'll see stuff like uh too woke or something like this, but you will see weak. You will see weakness. And this is a lesson that Democrats, you know, um have not sort of absorbed from back from like, you know, when Bill Clinton was like strong and wrong is better than right and weak. And uh but right and strong is also even better than that, right? That's the best case scenario.
I It's crazy to me because Democrats seem to Democratic elected officials seem to think that polls are like this stagnant thing that can't change that you need to like sort of hop on and ride the wave. But Republicans look at polls and think like, oh, we could just bulldoze ahead, make a bunch of arguments, double down on it, and move the poll numbers in our direction. And it really speaks to, you know, a fundamental core of not really believing in much or caring that much. Like I think Trump and Stephen Miller actually genuinely sincerely despise immigrants. Like they are truly in their core, they are white nationalists. And I think a lot of Democratic politicians, I mean, they're they're fine with immigrants, but fundamentally they don't care. They're not going to like go to bat for them. They're not going to like make a strong argument for them. And that's where you have this like this vacuum that is filled with the right, whether it's Republican politicians or right-wing media is amazing at this where they all get on the same page and have the same talking points and push them out there. And you just don't see that mirrored on the Democratic side. It's more like hands off and almost like let Trump hang himself, which to be fair works to some extent, but it would work a lot better if as he's hanging himself, you also clobber him head with a sledgehammer.
Well, it it it also would would create some durability if you do win in those instances because the next day Trump is elected out of office, people are looking to like what's your policies and we're like, well, it's sort of like what Trump's was. But this the the thing about the polling is interesting because this has been around for a long time. During the Bush administration, there was a journalist, I think his name was Ron Suskin. I can't I it escapes me at the moment, but I think it was Ron Suskin who was uh interviewing a lot of like u uh Bush officials and uh one of them said to him like, you know, your problem is you're part of the reality based community and uh the the idea being that like you feel like you're constrained by um you know what people's perspectives are now. We create our own reality by pushing forward. Now, some of that can be completely insane. But the idea that uh but the the fundamental premise that people's perspective on things is, you know, fluctuates and is contextual and it can be can move with new information or a re reiteration of old information. Um it's like the Democratic party doesn't believe in that or I you know or for some it's you know I I don't I just don't want to contest on that level but you don't always get to choose what issues you want to contest on. You're the opposition party. You got to contest on it. But you you were making this point too about um the the these guys, you know, uh Rogan, like I had no idea they were gonna be doing this and and these voters who are like what? Uh I thought it was just going to be um uh criminals who get uh thrown out. This notion of like of that Democrats are running from what they perceive as wokeness and uh and running from like immigration rights. I'm convinced that in the polls that a lot of those guys, the the men that uh you know the Democrats are so worried about, the white men they're so worried about losing or having lost, when they say woke, they're just saying weak. Like they're they're just like weakness is what um uh I think people are responding to. that the the Democrats don't seem to stand for anything and don't seem to stand for things that are even marginally considered unpopular.
Yeah. And I think at this moment what we're witnessing is a massive vibe shift where now it's no longer cool and edgy to be proTrump. And so the Democrats are sort of reaping the rewards of that without even having to say anything or do anything because Trump is of course hanging himself on the Epstein stuff and bombing Iran and all these different things. And so now everybody who was riding hard for Trump before the election, they look like the rubes that they are. And so that's why you're sort of seeing, and I know you want to get to this in a minute, Sam, but you're sort of seeing a U-turn among, you know, the the pod bro sphere. Oh, yeah. Let's play this clip. Let's play this clip of uh what do we have? Schultz, right? Um, yeah. I mean, now at least he had the um uh and this is a function of like it seems like the Epstein stuff was the straw that broke the camel's back, which is just I I mean, as far as I'm concerned, let them fight and if I can throw fuel onto that fire, I will do it. But, um, that's the thing that you you feel betrayed upon. Here's uh um uh Schultz is the latest of uh of these type of sort of like manosphere uh broheims who have decided that um they're no longer uh on team Trump. Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? We have Texas. We have this. We have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? So we're stupid. Yeah, we're we're the idiots, guys. That is I think what is uh enraging people right now is it's insulting our intelligence. Like obviously the intelligence community is trying to cover it up. Obviously the Trump administration is trying to cover up. Something changed because they ran on this idea of exposing it all. All these guys had great ideas. Cockeyed cash dog. He had bars. He was ready to tear it all down. He was ready to tear down the entire FBI office. Shut down the Hoover building day one. Them still standing. And then he goes on Joe Rogan and he's like, "Listen, do you think if I had it, I wouldn't share it with you?" I do. Yeah, I do. I I do believe that 100%. Especially when you're staring at me like this, telling me that you once you protect pedophiles, you are the most cockeyed person in the entire world. So, one of two things in my mind is impossible. One, you're covering it up. Or two, nothing really happened and you exploited the of thousands of children to get your man elected. So, which one do you want here? Okay, go go go into 15. I want to play 15 and 16, too, because 16 is where he's basically like claiming like I didn't vote for any of this. Here's 15 then. 15's good because this backs up your point, Sam, about how uh when they say uh woke, they mean weak. Uh they Andrew Schultz here basically says there's some people in the Democratic party or at least associated with the Democratic party who he doesn't think are are weak or put they that they put America first. The only party right now that to me seems America first is the Democrat Socialist Party. Yep. Bernie is America first. Manny and all his ideas that he will not be able to execute and I frankly think many of them are not good ideas, but he is no doubt New York first. The policies seem to want to help people here. That's what I care about. If MAGA wants to take this America first thing back, they got to start looking out for America. It doesn't seem like they're doing. Lying to Americans is not America first. There is one lie which is Epstein did not have a blackmail ring on all these very influential people. And by saying that that didn't happen, you have to tell a lot of other little lies. Every one of them just pulls a little piece of thread away from the fact. And we're starting to see right there, right now. And it's just embarrassing. Okay, let's just play this last last clip. I mean, as they sort of like end the saga here. Uh, but it's it I I I let's play it. We'll talk about I feel very valued. I got to say people that like they'll DM me and be like, "You see what you see what your boy doing? You voted for this." I'm like, "I voted for none of this. He's doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for. I want him to stop the wars. He's funding them. I want him to shrink spending, reduce the money. He's increasing it." It's like everything that he said he's going to do except sending immigrants back. Okay. So, uh, what is that even? Of course, they're deporting. What is he talking about? They're deporting massive numbers of people. Well, yes. No, he's saying he's he's saying that's the only thing that he's uh that he has actually done that I am glad that which is ironic because um uh somehow Joe Rogan didn't get that message, but Schultz did. But the I I mean part of the problem with like coming up with the left's Joe Rogan is that um people who do this on the left actually spend the time to understand what they're talking about. And they can't just go out there and say that is absolutely bad crap, crazy, and inaccurate and stupid because they know better. And it's I mean I I don't know. I have to revert to like junior high to get to that level of of of sort of miscomprehension of what's going on. And that's just I I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt that they're not just bullshitting. So I would describe Schultz and all the people in this like podcast space, the Rogan sphere I guess you could call it. They are first and foremost wave riders and what I call narrative humpers. And what what happened was basically like to to put it simply, they're grifters. And so the vibes have now shifted so thoroughly against Trump that they feel like, well, we got to sort of go where our audience is going. Because I don't know if you guys experienced this. I've certainly experienced it. There was a time where you scroll through Twitter and it's nothing but right-wing slop all day long. And now you scroll through Twitter and everything I see is some left-winger or some liberal just absolutely hammering Trump over the head. There's way more memes and funny memes now on the left than there are on the right. Clearly Trump has, you know, destroyed this country in just six months with every horrible decision. He hasn't done a single thing that's positive and that's all catching up. So now like the vibes online are definitely anti-Trump and they're now realizing, man, we hitched our wagon to this guy and he's taken us all down. So they feel like they have to shift in order to keep some credibility. So but here the other thing you got to look out for is this though. We've already seen this with Alex Jones and Rogan himself and many others is like they say this now, but what are they going to be saying in a week? What are they going to be saying in 3 weeks? The second Trump gives them some other BS head fake where he says something that they like the way it sounds, all of a sudden it's back to, you know, he's the anti-establishment guy. Maybe he's actually going to deliver on some of this stuff. I mean, Alex Jones did a 180 on the Epstein thing where he was saying, "Actually, it was Biden in the deep state. They actually destroyed all the Epstein files." Day one, he was crying and puking over Trump betraying him. Day two, it was like actually blame the Democrats. It's the Democrats who got rid of it and it's not Trump at all. And so that's the other thing you have to watch out for with these charlatans. Emma's made the point that Schultz um had a clip where I I can't remember what context. Yeah. Well, he said like why he was supporting Trump and this backs what you're saying about the narrative humpers and the vibe like like like cuz the Republicans Like the Republicans now. And like the Democrats used to and now the Republicans are the ones with the He was like Trump has multiple baby mamas. It used to be Bill Clinton that was having and it's like can you middle school brain just take us take another step and think like are you applying a different standard to the female candidate in the race? Like Kamla was being hit over the head for being a They were calling her a right out of the gate. And these guys don't even think for a second like am I applying a double standard here? Yeah, it's like you it's like middle schooler brain. It's totally unserious. And the other thing is at one point he says it at the beginning like, "Oh, we're the idiots." And my response to that is, "Yes, you absolutely are the idiots." Because there like we were screaming from the top of our lungs for so long before the election. You guys do know Trump is in the Epstein files, right? You do know that we have audio tape of Jeffrey Epste saying he was Trump's best friend for a decade. There's over 30 sexual assault allegations against Trump. Him and Melania first had sex on the Lolita Express. This was all reported. We know all of this. He's been on the jet seven different times. There's countless pictures of him with Epstein. Michael Wolf has described in disgusting detail pictures he's seen that Epstein had of Trump with girls of an uncertain age. We talked about all of this. I I was screaming about this. Costa, his labor secretary, was the one who made the deal to get basically walk from all of those uh from the in Florida. So these guys, what do they do? They just go with the vibes. The vibes were high. the vibes were proTrump before the election. So, they hop on that bandwagon and then the people who were correct all along, we were telling them all along and warning them and now all of a sudden it's like, oh wait, turns out we misread the situation. Yeah. And give credit to the people who were correct all along. Uh it is fascinating to me too though that from a so much of and and we see this across the board. I mean even you know within the context of the the the the you know the what's her name? Bataris I can't I don't Bacha Sargon. Yes. like who was pounding the uh the the the drum about how Donald Trump isn't a true populist and you know and then of course this bill gets passed. Um and she is out there now like her entire premise about the so-called populism could not have been more destroyed. Like there is I don't think there is a single piece of legislation that has passed in my lifetime that is 180 degrees away from populism. You have dispossessed 17 million uh low-income people from healthcare. You're going to cut Medicare as well which is going to dispossess more lowincome people. You are dispossessing millions of people off of food assistance. you are uh pushing a massive upward redistribution of wealth to the wealthiest in this country by all of the tax provisions. I mean, there's no other bill that is greater. And here she is now just looking to the real problem, the real expression of populism uh is to attack immigrants. That's exactly right. So, there's this Oh, here we we have a clip of this. Oh, my bad. Sorry. Go ahead.
ative on the left that they're taking jobs that Americans will not do or don't want to do. And it's absolute nonsense. There's not a single industry in the United States that's done by a majority illegal migrant labor. The highest rates are about 30% in agriculture, which means 72% of people working farms are American citizens. And it is just so disgusting to say these are jobs that are beneath an American. Turns out Americans don't think that when you have mass deportations and a closed border, employers have to pay more wages. And guess what? Americans are happy to take those jobs. You look at the 197 Let's just stop. Let's stop here for a second. I don't know that that woman's ever been on a farm in her entire life. There is no doubt uh that there are uh you know 70% of the farm workers uh may very well be um uh you know American uh citizens but I got news for you. They are not out there uh picking almonds. They are not out there picking peaches. Play this clip that we have from some farmers who were asked about this in the wake of these um uh these deportations and detentions. Keith Smith says most immigration workers left after the law took effect. So this potato farmer hired Americans. Problem is, he says most show up late, work slower, and are ready to head home after lunch. Some even quit after just one day out in the field. There's a Hispanic man that works for us, and I said, you know, he's 52 and he'll make anywhere from $70 to $100 a day. I said, "If you can keep up with him and do a good job, you can make that." But they just they're not physically in shape to do it. And you know, probably not mentally tough enough to do it some. I mean, look, the fact of the matter is is if you come from a farming community in Mexico, uh, and you have been raised in that environment, uh, this type of work is not as, um, uh, you know, like it's incredibly challenging, but it's not as challenging because you're experienced at it. I mean, this is uh it is fascinating to me that this is like even remotely controversial. You know, it's possible in a couple of generations we could go back to where we have um more sort like, you know, farmers, particularly ones that are going to work on these sort of huge farms. Uh uh, you know, there are rural areas in New York State where there's a lot of farming, Hudson Valley. Uh but these aren't massive farms. These are local, you know, local farm type of situations. Uh, but this whole uh right populism just evaporated two weeks ago and the only thing they have to sort of like push back on Trump now is he didn't release the Epstein files. It's it's incredible. BA You know how Trump has those hats that say Trump was right about everything? We need to make hats that say BA is wrong about everything because her whole thesis and she's been screaming this for like a year now is that Trump is the true populist and the Democrats are the true elitists. But and I did a video on this a while ago before the election I think laying out like this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard because if you look at his record, he killed increased overtime pay for millions of people. He killed the $15 minimum wage for federal contractors that Biden had put into place. He got rid of that. He opposes the PRO Act. He opposes minimum wage increases. He destroyed the CFPB. He outsourced 200,000 jobs in his first term. In his second term, he already killed 115,000 jobs by killing some of the Biden legislation like the CHIPS act. I mean, now, of course, as you pointed out, Sam, he cut uh Medicaid massively where 161 17 million people are going to lose their healthcare. This also effectively cuts Medicare, the big beautiful bill, because it forces a sequester because it violates PO. And so on every front I you could give me honestly and I mean this the worst Democrat the worst one you could think of Mansion Cinema whoever way more populist than Trump and any Republican. I mean look at Josh Holly who he was oh we really can't cut Medicaid. That's a horrible idea. We should definitely not cut Medicaid. Then immediately turns around and votes to cut Medicaid. Right-wing populism is not a thing. It is completely and utterly fake. There was a time where you could maybe make an argument that hey if they mean what they say then maybe. But we are like the results are in. We've had so long now to actually test whether or not they meet it and they don't. I will grant them that like Thomas Massie, you know, there's like a libertarian strain on the right like with Ron Paul every now and then he is a guy there is a guy and I got news for you. Thomas Massie does not care about cutting people off of Medicaid. Oh no no no. Yeah. He the libertarians are horrible on economics. anti-war and he may have a principled decision about like you know sort of like uh we shouldn't increase the debt which I also think is a completely like you know the idea we shouldn't increase the debt in an inefficient way that does not invest in the country but rather allows private individuals to sort of like uh get the reap the benefit of deficit spending but uh Ron Paul said on a stage uh if that guy doesn't have health insurance they die on the street. That's what's happened, right? That's right. No, the the point that I was the point that I was making is that there is only one str 99% of the Republican party, especially the elected officials, are MAGA, full stop. It's a cult. They'll go wherever Trump wants them to go. The 1% that does buck him every now and then, are not the populist right because the populist right is fake. It doesn't exist. No, there's a libertarian strain that on some issues, some of the time will maybe cut in a different direction. But the point you're making is also correct, which is libertarian and populist is not the same anyway. Libertarians are the worst on economics because they want to get rid of the entire social safety net. But my point is people need to wake up to the fact that the whole idea of the populist right is a scam. It's completely fake. They just lie and then they turn around and vote like any George W. Bush era neocon free marketeer.
Yeah. Well, I mean Josh Holly's state, right? Uh he's the senator from Missouri. I'm not making that up. Right. Um the that it just came out today. this story that the Republican governor, it's official, has repealed the paid sick leave ballot measure that was voted on by like upwards close to 60% of uh Missouri voters in in the fall and they just basic it would have helped over 700,000 private sector workers and despite the fact that voters voted for it overwhelmingly and it was taken to the they tried to fight it in the state supreme court unanimously upheld it. The Republican governor is doing away with it. Like it's this is when we talk about our democracy, I can't think of a more undemocratic action. And that happens on from the Republican party. That's the Republican party. And it's not MAGA. It's not like Hakeem Jeff keeps giving these quotes MAGA extremists. I like would he be a would this governor be a MAGA extremist? Because I mean he's not like right under Donald Trump. No, he's just a Republican, so call them Republicans. It's insane.
Yeah. Except uh the uh Lincoln Project guys are now apparently like loving Che Guavara. I don't know if you guys saw that video that they released some of the never Trump Republicans. It's kind of amazing that some of the never Trump Republicans have now just morphed into like very aggressive leftists somehow. So, that's the only thing that gives me some hope. But in terms of yeah, the elected officials, they're I mean, they're the same as they ever were, except if anything, they're just worse. And they've now mastered the art of just lying. It's almost like they they realize within the last decade that like we could just say the opposite of what we do and kind of get away with it cuz nobody's going to call us on it and the media is not going to hold us accountable. And that's what they do. The whole party is built on lies. They are a fascist Robert Baron party and they just lie as part of the program.
Yeah. I mean, I think that's, you know, getting back to what you had said earlier about Trump saying one thing and uh Stephen Miller doing another or the the bill doing another. I think he just realized like I should just say the thing that is going to be received the best and let the you know, let other people figure out what the reality is of it. He I just don't I don't even know if he even thinks that much about I don't think that calculation that I just walked out actually goes through his mind. I think he's just like, I know not to cut Medicare or Medicaid, so we're not cutting Medicaid even though it has no relationship to what they're actually doing. I just don't think it matters to him. Like he said today, we had a clip of him saying like a year ago, nobody was talking about America. Now we're hot. We're the hottest country. And it's true. There's probably a lot of people going like, "Hey, we should not deal with America anymore." or hey America we're no longer going to follow their policy or you know we're we're going to look to China to um you know establish another but it is true if you look at a word cloud America may come up more often than it did uh a year ago. Uh Kyle Kolinsky uh real pleasure we will of course put links to both the uh Kyle Kolinsky show and Crystal Kyle and friends in our podcast and YouTube description. Uh, we could do this for another six hours, but um I don't have that time. I don't I got or the energy.
I hear you, man. Thanks for having me, guys. I really appreciate it. It was fun.
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