EXCLUSIVE: Inside the Mind of Baron Coleman – Fame, Truth, and Podcasting

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>> Hey everyone, we are just going to give people a few minutes to come in. Checking all our different levels and uh making sure we're good to go. Welcome to the stream. Let's see. Make sure Rumble...

>> 96% of your poll said I would wear a hoodie, but they were confused because they didn't know I was going with the Brandy and Billy. [laughter] Yeah, Brandy and Billy are pretty awesome.

>> Yeah, they're great. They got great merch, too.

>> Do they ever end up going to see Ian? I know that was supposed to happen.

>> Well, I I don't know if I should have said that. Maybe that's a surprise. No, they didn't. [laughter]

>> To be confirmed at a later date.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> All right. See, [snorts] Rumble good to go. All right, we are live. Live. All right, let's check this poll. 862 volts. Would Baron wear a hoodie or dress up? Would he dress up [laughter] for this thing? 96% hoodie, but not sure what color. Did anyone guess the color correctly? Who Who had Brandy and Billy show merch hoodie? You won. All right, we are quickly getting to that number. So, we'll start here any second. And anyone that's joining, make sure you guys hit that like. That's what makes this go out. That was what that's the only thing that YouTube likes.

>> Yeah, they get Man, you when you figure out the algorithm, the show just gets pushed right on out. When you when you can't figure it out, people are like, I don't understand why no one will see me. I I I'm I I podcasted to friends and family only for a long time before I figured out the algorithm and then all of a sudden it gets a lot lot easier.

>> All right. Yeah, let's go ahead and uh we'll go and get started. All right, everyone. We appreciate you being here. Obviously, it's lunchtime and some people are working and that kind of stuff, but this is Baron's day off. So, he is uh giving us his attention and his time on his day off. So, definitely give him a lot of love for that. But, we are going to uh dive deep into the heart of free speech with our esteemed guest whose insights promise to challenge the status quo and inspire the future. Going from just a few dozen subscribers, when I first saw him, he only had a few dozen subscribers on YouTube to now he's basically at 200,000. and he'll be there any day. And um X, Rumble, Local, Spotify, he's kind of taken over everywhere. And um being featured on Candace Owens podcast, which is viewed by millions. He was mentioned on Jimmy Door. Jimmy Door, if you're watching this, reach out to him. Get a hold of him. Get those things arranged. And uh becoming a household name. I give you Baron Coleman, ladies and gentlemen. Show him some love in the chat.

>> Uh appreciate you having me. It's been a lot of fun.

>> They don't know how much fun we had before we went live. Yeah,

>> this is like the second interview. [laughter] [snorts]

>> Baron got a suntan. Is that true?

>> No. Baron changed the lighting because Trigger has such fantastic lighting being a video professional. I was sitting over here in a a cavern of doom. So, I uh I just I just changed the lighting a little bit. That's all.

>> And yes, unfortunately Baron will not be live this evening. It's his day off.

>> Yeah, I I mentioned that on the show yesterday. I was taking a day off. I I have to I have to have time for my family. Uh, and when you when you do a three-hour podcast in the evening, that that really takes away of your ability to, you know, sit down, eat dinner, hang out on the couch, have some fun,

>> which I've coined since a barathon

>> because you're doing three hour marathon. All right.

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>> All right.

>> I don't understand why that happens. I mean, that's that's got to be something intentional, I would assume.

>> Uh, I would hope not, but I I've heard it from a lot of people.

>> Yeah.

>> All right. So, what we'll do is um I have a series of a bunch of different questions that kind of mix like like this is going to be some personal stuff, some investigative stuff. We'll kind of be all over the place, but um I'll try and keep it in somewhat of a a good flow for you. So, retiring from being a lawyer to going allin now. You've retired from from lawyers, uh the lawyer life, I should say, and you did that for a long time, and now you're a full-time podcaster, meaning you support your family with this. What's harder, court arguments or YouTube trolls?

>> Um, well, YouTube X. Um, I get I get a lot of that. And and I I never understood why Joe Rogan used to say, "Don't read the comments," until I I started getting more comments and I was like, "Okay, I'll quit reading the comments."

>> Um, no, I mean, I I enjoyed practicing law. I practiced um I did a lot of courtroom stuff uh both on the civil and criminal side over the years. Um I worked at a bank, I worked at a you know like an IT contractor, I worked um at a a healthcare data analytics firm. I mean I've I've worked at a bunch of different places and um I I really like broadcasting. I' I was a full-time broadcaster for seven years. I had a daily three-hour radio show for um for seven years, six years. and uh and then did part-time fill-in radio work for three or four years on top of that. So I've been on the air a long time, had you know was on a TV show for two or three years once a week. Um and so I I've got a lot of broadcasting experience and I I really always loved it and I always thought, man, if I could find a way to get back into it full-time, I would. I always envisioned that would be through the radio and [clears throat] I sort of just did the podcasting on Sunday nights just to stay sharp and then uh and then it started taking off. So here I am. So, since you've like revealed your face and everything and you're kind of out there both audio and video, has that changed anything significantly or do you feel like the same person talking on radio back then?

>> Uh, it's it's a little different. It's a little different having a camera in your face. Um, I did, like I said, do a TV show, but it was a panel TV show. There were four of us on it. Um, and it was just once a week and it was an hour or actually it was 30 minutes. I mean, it was a quick show. Maybe it was an hour. I can't remember. Um, so it's it's a little different, but it it has a a radio feel. I produced my own radio show. Well, the first six months I didn't because I was learning the business, but after after about six months, I started producing my own radio show, meaning I sat behind the controls, got us in and out of breaks, brought the music in and out. Um, it was a talk radio show. And it it's different because on a talk radio show, you're going six to 8 minute segments at a time, not three hours uninterrupted without being able to go to the restroom, without being able to take a break, uh, stretch your legs. So, you know, sitting in one spot, leaning forward because you want to look engaged and and you know, I'm very animated. I don't know if you figured that out yet. I have a hard time sitting still. Candace's show was a nightmare because of that.

>> Um, I felt compelled to like be super still that whole time.

>> So, um, but on the radio, I really worked the mic. I was all over the place. I was I was very animated and um and so it's trying to keep it a little calmer for the for the cameras been a different uh been a different experience.

>> Well, let's pick up on that too. So, walk us So, obviously a lot of people are huge fans of Candace, right? From a lot of different angles. So, walk us through your experience being on the Candace Owens podcast. And not only that, you were actually at her house. So, did you have any like pre-show jitters, fears? Like, how was that experience?

>> Uh it it wasn't. No, she puts you at such ease. Um, and we talked on the phone. We'd met in person for coffee. We've texted quite a bit. Um, I So, no, I did I I honestly just I felt bad after I walked in. I realized it. I saw him through the window and I just walked in her front door and I got in. I was like, well, but you know, you get met by armed security in the driveway, so I didn't feel like I you know, they didn't surely they didn't think I was breaking in. Um, but I just walk in the I looked through the door. I was about to knock on the door and I saw they were sitting there and I was like, I'll just walk in. I walked in and they didn't even break. Like they're sitting there prepping for the show. It was two or three hours before the show started. I can't remember which. And they just kind of looked up like, "Hey, grab a seat." So, uh, she is she is so easy to talk to. She is so exactly who she is in real life. And I had a good friend of mine from politics who's who's been around politics a long time. He called me the other day. I hadn't talked to him in a while. And he and he said, "You know, what's she like in person?" And I said, "Dude, she is so much smarter than you think she is." Like, she is so much smarter than she you think she is. I do. I think she lulls people in with this, you know, she'll say something that sounds pretty crazy every now and then, but it's like half of what she knows and then she gets people to respond and and then just, you know, it has the rest of it should they take the bait and it's it's really sharp. I mean, she is something. She is something.

>> Trap is set.

>> Yeah, I saw Brandy and Billy in the chat. I got your hoodie on, girls. [laughter] And if you guys aren't already following Brandy and Billy, make sure you go over and show them some love. It's Brandy and Billy Show, and they are on YouTube and X and Instagram and Tik Tok, I believe.

>> They're everywhere.

>> Everywhere.

>> They're all over the country, too. They travel for stories. They're They're not like me.

>> Yeah, they're in the field for sure. So, Dropping Law for podcasts, how is your support system for this new adventure you are building? I know you mentioned like maybe your sister would be joining you. Um, did you want to update some people on like kind of what's to come as far as that goes?

>> Yeah. Um, so I I obviously did everything myself because I didn't have the means to pay anybody. Um, and it it just it just grew out of control. Like my email inbox is completely out of control. I have to have I have to have full-time help. Just to tangle that.

>> Um, you know, responding just just I have to have some help. I have to have some help. And so I was talking to her. She's a nurse. She's been a nurse for 30 years or so, maybe more than that. Um, and she's brilliant. She's very funny. She's very smart and she can do anything she puts her mind to. Um, and uh, great jeans. She's got, you know, no, I'm just kidding. Uh, [laughter] but she um, so she was talking to me and I said, "How, you know, I hate to be forward, but how much do you make? Can I afford to hire you?"

>> And um, and so we came to an agreement. I couldn't afford to hire her, but we came to an agreement where she could leave her job and come work for me full-time. And that is going to take um so much pressure off of me because right now I'm spending hours a day on the administrative side and it does take a lot of time on the administrative side taking care of everything. She can now handle all that and I will be able to focus more on just content creation, writing. My opens take a long time to write. They are um not

>> No, no. Some of them are upwards of six or eight hours of writing. Now I do use tools to factf find, you know.

>> Yeah. Research.

>> Yeah. I mean, I I'll I'll like the you know, I'll look and say, you know, uh what was the date of Dale Earnhard's crash, you know, for from last night and and you know, so I'll use some tools to to scrape some data, but the actual writing, I enjoy writing. Like I I my computer, if I ever die and they dig into my Dropbox, I've got a lot of stuff written in there that I've written over the years. um fiction stories, non-fiction stories, um just bios of people that that I meet and I'll I'll I don't know, I'm weird like that. I like to write. I've always liked to write and so I it is a writing outlet. It's a creative writing outlet on a daily basis or three or four days a week. And um and so I do I do spend time to write and the shorter ones are two or three hours. The longer ones can take the more fact-based ones can take upwards of five, six, eight hours. And so that will give me more time to do that kind of stuff instead of rushing around to the last second to put a show on the on the air at 6 or 7 o'clock at night.

>> Well, I think a lot of people don't realize how much work goes into being a creator.

>> So like people see these live streams that go three hours and you tell them you you know maybe you write three or three to five hours or something a day, but they don't see the time watching other stuff, researching other people, watching other podcasters to get more information, being on X, do like it's like a it's almost like a 247 thing when you're not sleeping. It's it's a lot more work than people think.

>> It is. And how many rabbit troll trails I run down that don't make it to the air because they end up dead ends. And so I you know how many how many people I've dug into and spent dozens of hours scouring through their lives to realize there's nothing to this guy.

>> This guy's clean as a whistle. Um and that that time is just lost. I mean I I have a better understanding of who that person is, but it's it's of really no value. Um, and so that that happens. Flights, uh, locations, you know, I dig through tax information. I'll I'll dig through, uh, formation documents, FAR registrations, and you get to the bottom, and you just realize there's there's nothing to this. And so, I've just wasted 12 hours of my life that I can't put on air. There's nothing there's nothing reportable here. And I'm not going to just go with something just to go with something. If it if it doesn't add value to what I'm covering, then I'm not going to bring it up. Well, like you said too, a big part of your integrity is you said that if you put even if you put a show together that has some stuff, if you don't think it's a good show for the audience, you won't even waste your time doing it. And I think that's a huge difference from a lot of other people who will do a show just to do a show and you're like, you know.

>> Yeah. No, I mean, that's a commitment I've made. I I commit to doing four shows a week, but I commit to doing four well produced, well-informed, entertaining shows. And if I can't come up with four one week, I'm doing three. I'm not going to just come on air and waste people's time. You know why? Because I am a I am a consumer of of for years I was a consumer of talk radio. Like back to high school and college and um and then I did talk radio and I was a consumer of talk radio and then when the podcasting medium came around about 15 years ago it started to become popular. Uh I consumed a voracious consumer of podcast and I would get done with someone's podcast even if it was just 30 minutes if it was a waste of time I was so mad. And I thought, I can't get that time back. And I'm not doing that to somebody. If I feel like I'm going to waste your time, I'm not doing it.

>> So on your podcast, we know there's a lot of conspiracies that go around, especially around Charlie Kirk.

>> So what is the silliest conspiracy that you've debunked or that made you laugh out loud? For me, it was the hologram.

>> Uh yeah, the whole Charlie's still alive. I just I just refuse to buy that. Um, I know that there's probably 10% of the people following the Charlie Kirk investigation that just committed to that position, but I refuse to buy that. The um the next silliest one was the guy in the white shirt shaking his hands like this. Now, I I'm not ruled out that that guy is involved in some way because the it looked like he went to do it and then he

>> do what

>> you talking about? The phone pistol that like folds open. Is that

>> Yeah, the guy

>> he shot him. Yeah, the he was on Charlie's like uh what 3:00 or 4:00 over here to the right

>> and um you know, no one's going to shoot anybody like this. You're not going to hit anything. You're you're a gun guy. No one would fire a pistol that way. And if you did, you wouldn't be accurate enough to hit something. Uh plus I've seen the video from behind. He didn't get hit from behind. I can assure you that.

>> Um

>> and Cutler, right? Like Brick Cutler, you know, doing like a a palm pistol shooting at an awkward angle from down below from his arm. You'd be lucky if you could hit Charlie's whole body, let alone in his neck or, you know, his head.

>> But I will say the guy in the white t-shirt that they said was the cell phone pistol, he looked like he was about to do the shake the first time and looked over at Dan Flood and timed it with Dan Flood doing this. So, I've not ruled out that that guy has some sort of a timing connection

>> cuz the first time he did it was when Dan Flood went to touch his arm and the second time is when the bang happened. And so, I've not ruled out a timing thing. And the same thing with Rick Cutler on his sleeve. That's not a palm pistol, but I'm not ruled out that there wasn't something going on on that sleeve. I don't know what that could have been.

>> Something synchronized. Interesting.

>> But it wasn't a It wasn't a palm pistol. There's no way.

>> And yeah, I mean the whole with me the hologram thing. Obviously, you see like the Michael Jackson in Vegas thing. He's moonwalking across the stage, but it's a very controlled environment and it usually has to be pretty dark and it's only from one angle. If you were beside him, you wouldn't be able to see him. You can only see him from the front. So to me, there's no way that could happen. Um, let's see.

>> Not only that, he walked around throwing out hats beforehand. I mean, holograms don't throw hats. Sorry.

>> Well, and holograms need something to project against.

>> Yeah.

>> And then you have Rick Cutler jumping over the table. He didn't knock down glass or anything else. So, it just doesn't fit. So, you went from Alabama radio to Tennessee podcasts. And obviously, we've seen, you know, you did this new audio and video setup.

>> Yeah.

>> You had a couple couple blurry days, but you got it figured out. Now you're all crispy, right? You're in HD. So, what's the worst technology fail that you had in radio?

>> Oh, in radio. Um, so one day we lost our ability to go to break. It was the first time I'd ever had to do three hours uninterrupted. The computer would not let us go to a break and so we couldn't take calls either. And and I was I overprepared on radio just like I overprepare a lot of times on a podcast. You know, like last night I had to cut some material because it just got too long. And uh because I try to structure everything in my head. It's about a five minute intro. It's it's a 12 to 20 minute opening and then I like to take the the content to an hour hour and a half mark and then and then do super chats. Um and it kind of breaks it up into into three three different components. I did the same thing on radio. And if it would get too long, I would just, you know, take a stack of papers out with me that that I didn't cover that day and maybe I'd throw them out, maybe I'd cover them the next day. Uh but one day on radio, the computer went down. We were on We were on Windows uh XP, believe it or not.

>> Yeah. And it and they had stopped supporting it and

>> and so the radio the uh XP crashes and we're stuck on air for and it happened right when I got on air at 9:00 in the morning. I couldn't even take the first news break. And so I was like, "All right, we're live and we're going to stay live." And we stayed live for three hours. And that means no bathroom break. And and you know, like I plan accordingly now because I know I can't get up for three hours. But when you're on radio and you think, "Okay, I go on at 9:06. My first break's at 9:14. I'll just run down to the bathroom if I need to." And then I know I've got a break at at, you know, 9:22 and 9:30 and 9:41 and 9:52. So I knew all my breaks lined up uh cuz they were they were pretty hard breaks, most of them. And um and and when your ability to go to break when you've set your life up six to eight minutes at a time goes away, that was a that was a pretty bad fail. Um, one time we were covering a former governor who sort of still ran everything in the state and right as we were getting to I was putting a story together. Right as we were getting to the most damning part, our tower crashed.

>> Like the tower shut out, which means

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we were still streaming live but only, you know, 100 200 people would listen to the the stream on a smartphone. Everybody else, you know, thousands of people listening over the air and they crashed and everyone was like, "Oh no, the governor's up there pulling the plug on the tower." So yeah, just let you know technology is part of it particularly in radio that's an old terrestrial medium that uh that that's very high-tech and and not there are very few radio engineers still on earth that is a dying breed and they've most of them have gone fully digital even the ones that still are.

>> Yeah.

>> So as a former lawyer turned investigator what's the most surprising overlap between your legal research that you used to do which was very in-depth. You had to make sure everything was perfect because you had to be within the confines of the law whereas now you have a little bit more freedom. So, how does that kind of transfer over into doing the research you do now towards these conspiracy theories and the Charlie Kirk case, for example?

>> So, in law, you're bound by the rules of evidence. If it's in a military, I did military trials a lot. So, you you're bound by the UCMJ if you um you know, the federal rules of evidence in federal court, the Tennessee rules of evidence or the Alabama rules of evidence in in state court or Florida. I'm licensed in Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee. I've lived in all three states uh practicing law. So, um, you know, you're bound by the rules of evidence. So, and if you want to get a documented in, for example, you've got to lay the proper predicate. You got to you've got to lay a foundation. You have to know how to, you know, to to do the give and take with the witness to allow to get the judge to allow the document to be seen either seen by the witness or seen by the jury. Uh, I don't have that now. Like, I can just throw documents up whenever I want want. And that is a really nice piece of freedom. Um, so, [snorts] so that's probably the biggest difference. I mean, the investigatory mind is still the same. I still, um, I still try to hold myself to some sort of a, a universal standard, even though it's not required in podcasting, obviously. I don't want to enter into a defamation certainly, not because it's not because it's wrong or could get me sued, but because I don't want to be wrong. I don't like being wrong. Now, that happens. You're going you're sometimes going to go down a path and someone's going to call you or tell, and it's happened. Um, I won't say when, but but astute listeners will probably be able to figure it out where I had to actually correct and say, "Nope, I was wrong on this one." Um, I'll tell you. I got a call from an AP reporter who was like, "I was in the Oval Office with JD Vance when you said he was on the plane."

>> Oh, yeah.

>> And I was like, "Well, I didn't say he was on the plane." I said, "I thought he was on the plane." She's like, "Well, I can assure you he wasn't."

>> And so, um, but I did. I came on the next day and said, "Hey, I saw video of him in the office." Like it's possible that I was lied to, but at least I'm telling you I saw the video and it was presented to me as footage that was recorded of him in the office at this particular time. And I I tend to believe it. So I'm I'm willing to make a correction and that's why I am kind of miffed really with TPUSA's approach where they're sending out letters to Wolves and Finance or sending out letters to Candace. I think most people are like me. I think you're probably that way. If if you said something that turned out to be wrong and TPSA sent you evidence of that, why would you not correct it? Why would you want to mislead someone? That's dishonest. And I I don't want to be dishonest. Well, we know there's a group of people that they they do it obviously just for the money, just for the clicks, just for the views, just for the um the recognition and that kind of stuff. And they kind of just honestly they just pull it out of their ass, right? Um, but yeah, 100%. If if I say something and it's incorrect, I will correct it because that's the correct thing to do. I don't want to mislead people and I don't want to spread misinformation.

>> Yeah.

>> Now, this this next question is kind of interesting. You kind of answered it the other night when you said that you liked a certain era of Charlie, but if you could time travel, what moment in the Charlie Crick saga would you witness firsthand?

>> That's that's uh both time travel and location travel because I I would have to get in the room. I would love to be um at the Candlewood Suites September 8th and 9th sitting in the lobby

>> and in uh Sierra Vista, Arizona. I would love to sit in the lobby at the Candlewood Suites that that time.

>> So, quick follow up on that. A lot of people have asked, do you have any followup on the uh possible viewing of a beautiful woman wearing certain clothes with blue eyes in that location?

>> Patience, dear wife.

>> Patience.

>> Patience. We're on day 33 of her not providing an alibi. There's a reason for that. Allegedly not providing an alibi. Not that I've seen. Not that I've seen. Yeah. Now, this one's interesting. I know you've talked about a few people already. I think JFK was one of them, but if you can interview literally any any historical figure in the world at any time period, who would it be?

>> William Joseph Casey. Uh he was the CIA director under uh Ronald Reagan. I'm fascinated with the man. I actually named a child after him. I give away one of my kids' names. Um I I I think Bill Casey is perhaps one of the more fascinating uh unknown I don't say unknown because a lot of people know who he is, but one of the most fascinating stories in American history. He is a self-made man. He went into the publishing business. Um he really wanted to be Secretary of State. He helped Reagan win in ' 80s so that he would be Secretary of State and they stuck him at CIA and he was kind of pissed off about it. But he became one of the most effective CIA directors of all time. I would love to interview him because he sort of I think if I had to guess he spawned the Iran Contra

>> affair. Um he was very involved in what was happening in Nicaragua at the time. And I have a lot of questions that if I could put truth serum in them. I have a lot of questions about um you know the the cocaine shipments into the United States in the 80s that because I think it wrecked our country. it it and I I I think it's beyond dispute it came from the United States government. I would want to know to what extent he was aware of it and um maybe even participated in it or constructed it. I'm not saying he did. Um I've gone from viewing him as a hero to viewing him as somebody almost a tragic figure

>> and I've not yet gotten to the villain stage, but um

>> I'm I might head that way one day and and if I could interview him, maybe I would conclude he's a villain. But for a long time, he was a hero because I looked at this guy, I was like, man, he he did whatever it took to keep communism out of the Western Hemisphere, at least out of the northern North America, Central America area. And um and so I looked at him as this just unbelievable hero. Joseph Persco wrote a great book on him called Casey. Uh anybody looking for a book to read is phenomenal. Great, great biography. I like biographies a lot. He would probably be one person I would love to go back and interview in his prime, you know, like 198586, right in the thick of all of it and and ask him what he knew about what was going on because I think it's fundamentally changed the nature of of the United States, everything that took place back then.

>> Yeah. I think um things were a lot different back then. There were a lot less eyes. They got away with a lot more, it seemed like.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, without people knowing. people know things now that they still get away with, but yeah, we won't we won't go into that,

>> right?

>> So, um, what's the craziest listener email or comment you've received since starting the podcast

>> besides besides

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Joe's Joe's Joe's.

>> I get a lot of them. Um, I get a lot of emails from people that, you know, I don't I don't respond to, but they they're they're kind of wild. Um, and I I really wonder, are they okay? Like, are these people in touch with reality? And and I'm not confident they are. I'm not confident all of them are. I don't want to betray any confidences, but I I mean, I get stuff where people claim to have seen things and then I think they couldn't possibly have seen it. So, I'm not going to I'm not going to respond to it. I think some people just want to insert themselves in a story and uh and that happens a lot, unfortunately. Well, I think some people are very convinced on what they think they saw, and they keep running with it, even if there's something contrary in the evidence.

>> Yeah,

>> I see that a lot.

>> Yeah. I had a great um a great evidence professor in law school, my second year of law school. Her name was Aviva Orinstein, and she was brilliant. She was so smart, funny, uh lovable character. I think she still teaches at IU. I think she's still a professor, an evidence professor there. But she um obviously would be 20 years older, 25 years older now, however long ago I was there. But she um she did something to us that I I was not expecting. There's 150 or so people in this class. It's one, you know, one of those huge stadium style classrooms. And right in the middle of class, some dude burst open the doors. It's like one of those rooms where there's four sets of double doors to get in. It's that kind of a that kind of an auditorium. and and he burst through the doors and they start screaming at each other in this random language. And I'm like, "Oh my gosh, is I mean I mean they were screaming, pointing, yelling, you know, and then she threw a bunch of papers at him." And then he turned around and ran off.

>> And she was like, "Oh my gosh, everybody take out a sheet of paper right now. Write down everything you just saw. We might need to record this. Write it down."

>> And so I'm like dutiful. I'm like, "Yes, ma'am." You know, I'm writing, writing, writing. And then she showed us a video of what happened.

>> What happened? Nobody was right. Nobody was right. And her per her purpose was eyewitness testimony generally sucks. Um and we put so much value on it. You know, you put somebody in the dock in a in a trial and they say they saw it. The jury's like, "Oh, it must be exactly what happened. Why would they lie about it?"

>> They're not lying. They're wrong. And and that's that happens a lot. Unfortunately, people are just wrong. Especially in in a traumatic experience. You see someone get shot and killed. You see somebody get stabbed. you see somebody yelling and fighting and then you know um even the the angle of the video often is is um is um is is often uh misleading. So it's it's it's I I think a lot of my email I think a lot of my emails of people who claim to have been certain places or seen certain things some sometimes that's that's the problem you know they're bringing preconceived notions and biases you know. She asked us what language were they speaking, what uh I mean there were like 25 different answers. People like, "Oh, I speak Dutch. I know that was Dutch." And they're like, she's like, "How would I know Dutch? [laughter] I'm a little Jewish woman from Brooklyn."

>> So,

>> well, it's also interesting, too. I've heard, and maybe you can confirm this, people have a certain story what they think they saw when something happens, especially traumatic, and over time their story will actually change from the same person. Have you seen that as well?

>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It evolved. Um and and sometimes they don't even realize it's happening. They go back and watch their own a video of themsel describing it and and that person's like I that is sorry I didn't realize my story had changed so much.

>> So as we know at some point the Charlie Kirk case will be closed maybe right maybe it'll be another MLK or JFK but um and a lot of eyes on it but eventually it will probably slow down as far as social media and stuff goes in the podcast. So, what other types of like topics and events do you plan to cover on your podcast in the future? Is there anything that you have that's kind of on the horizon?

>> Yeah, I can always look back. I mean, there's a lot of events that that I've talked about or thought about covering, you know, past events. I think I'm gonna have Roger Stone on this week. Um, he reached out uh and and wants to come on and talk about the JFK book he wrote. It's phenomenal.

>> That'll be awesome. Yeah.

>> Yeah. JFK's evergreen. I mean, that was what 62 years ago and and we still don't know what happened. So that's um that's evergreen. You could always bring that up anytime, but but I want to do it on a schedule that works for him. So that's uh that's one that I want to like a show I want to do. I don't want to spend months or or whatever doing that. But there's always something like when the Vegas shooting happened, we never got resolution on that at that, you know, had I been on the air at that time, I would have actually I was on the air on the radio, but not on podcast. Uh somewhere in the radio archives of that radio station, they have recordings of dozens of hours of me talking about Vegas, like I'm doing with Charlie Kirk now. Um and and you know, so there's always going to be something to talk about. This is obviously a concern for me. It's a huge concern for me because I I think if a national treasure can be taken down under mysterious circumstances and they tell us all to just go away, nobody's safe.

>> Yeah.

>> Nobody's safe. I mean, if you if you get invited to speak somewhere, you're not safe if they can just kill people and walk away and act like everything's fine. And the more I put this timeline together, Daisy May's helping me put the timeline together uh in the background. She's one of She's a great listener.

>> She's great.

>> Yeah. She's phenomenal. And she's helping me put this uh timeline together. And as we add stuff to the timeline and I start looking at I'm thinking there's no way this is Tyler Robinson. No way. There's too much going on that all points to the same thing happening to this guy. Hm. That's interesting. Yeah, I think a lot of people lean in that direction, but I want them to get into the trials, not the pre-trials, and they're kind of dragging it out, but I think that's, you know, somewhat expected, right? Trying to buy time.

>> Um, but criminal trials take a long time to put together. They're they're theater and so everything has to be done ahead of time. Everything has to be decided. We don't want to. We're not stop. We're not once we start the trial. We're not This is, you know, a little inside baseball and it and it it it sort of destroys every TV show and every movie you've ever watched about a courtroom drama, but very little is decided at trial. Almost everything is decided ahead of time. What comes in, what you're allowed to say, what words you can use, and and it takes a long time to get all that worked out pre-trial. What experts can come in, what they're allowed to say, all that. So,

>> so for everyone that's watching, make sure you hit that like and make sure if you're not already subscribed to Baron, make sure you go over to Real Baron podcast basically on every social media. Are you on Instagram and Tik Tok yet or no?

>> I have a Real Baron podcast Instagram. I've done nothing with it, but I did reserve it. And I just reserved a uh Baron Coleman on Upscroll just so no one else would steal my name.

>> Um

>> I heard about that yesterday. That app.

>> Yeah.

>> Kind of like the new Tik Tok. Yeah. Oh my gosh, guys. Have you Are you following this ICE stuff at all?

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. My wife just texted me now. She is not a conspiracy theorist. My son ate ice earlier today. There was just ice in his poop.

>> And we're talking about ice outside, [snorts] not the Border Patrol ICE FBI.

>> Yeah. Yes. So, ice is not normal. Whatever's going on out there. I I I I told you I had to go to the gym at noon. So about and we left about 11 to go 11:10 I think 11:10 exactly. I walked out of the door. I took a big I took a big old chunk of ice from outside and I put it on a plate. It was still there when I got back after 1:00.

>> That's not normal.

>> Well, and there's also a video of someone melting it, right? They're holding it up and they're trying to burn it and it's just scorching black. It's not melting.

>> Yeah, that that ice there's something weird. I don't know if there was something in the atmosphere that that ice, you know, the the the the water particles clung to and it was kind of like a um it's serving as sort of an antifreeze or something, but that's not normal. Your kid should not have ice in his poop like it should have melted long before. Something weird's going on.

>> No, they saw something similar to that. I think there was floods. Was it in Texas? One of the kids got flooded out.

>> Yeah.

>> And [clears throat] the guy the guy who actually seated he's the one that actually does the cloud seating. He had a company that does cloud seating. Yeah.

>> He said that they dropped these particles out and then people would actually see like blue balls all over the ground.

>> So, yeah. So, maybe it wasn't natural possibility.

>> That's That's weird. I got to I got to talk to her when we get off the air. I need to I need to find out about the ice poop.

>> You need to go to the ER or anything. Are you good?

>> No. No. He'll be fine.

>> No, he's a tough little kid. He's only five. They're resilient at that age.

>> So, now if you were not podcasting, what career might have you pursued? So, obviously you did law and law. It paid well. [laughter]

>> No, [clears throat] I um I enjoyed practicing law. I enjoyed what I did. So, what I did at the the company where I was, I was the I was the general counsel, but I was also the the EVP of of legal and operations. So, I kind of, you know, was over the whole operation side and I really enjoyed that. Um I had a had a really great job. I mean, I really really enjoyed my job, but uh it was becoming where I would be at work all day and all I was thinking about is producing content for the show. You know, I was thinking of things I wanted to talk about. I was, you know, crafting the opening in my head while I was supposed to be working and I was like, I can't justify pulling up a sheet and start writing in the middle. I'm on the clock, you know. I'm I'm not going to steal from the company. Um, but then I would get off and I would immediately start writing for the next day's show and I would stay up till 11, 12 o'clock working on the show and then I would wake up at, you know, five and it would just wear me out. So, um, I would have stayed practicing law. I I enjoyed it. I don't know that I would have ever gone back to like a trial um, firm, but um, being in house I really enjoyed being an in-house lawyer. I liked it a lot.

>> What about CrossFit instructor?

>> I do that. I coach CrossFit classes. Um I uh that's what I was doing at noon. I was coaching today. I uh

>> it up.

>> Oh yeah. Yeah.

>> Oh yeah. Okay.

>> Oh yeah. Um you want to see it? [laughter]

>> Um I'll record one and send it to you. How about that? Um no I uh I enjoyed that. Like we were doing some deadlifting today and there was a new guy and it was it was fun to, you know, get his feet in the right position, get his

hips at the right height, get his get the right bend in his knees, keep make sure the weight is over the midfoot, make sure he he's pushing away from the floor, not pulling with his back, make sure his neck's in a neutral position. So, I enjoy that. I enjoy the technical aspect of CrossFit and um obviously staying fit is uh is critical.

You know, the you're on a continuum. You're somewhere, you know, we talk about the autism spectrum. Well, there's a fitness spectrum, too. >> Yeah. you know, if you're if you're at one, you're almost dead. If you're at 99, you you got good blood pressure, blood sugar, you're fit, everything's great. The the closer you could get to 99, the longer uh or the better your life is going to be, the higher quality your life is going to be. You're not going to be in pain all the time. You're not going to, you know, your your back's not going to hurt, your hips aren't going to hurt, you're not going to, you know, struggle to stand up out of a chair. You're going to have plenty of leg leg muscle to to keep you mobile well into your later years. And so I I I encourage people to um to get fit. It's important. It's an important part of uh you know, your body is not a Ferrari. A Ferrari gets more valuable sitting around in a garage doing nothing. And your body sitting around on a couch doing nothing is just dying. That's all it's doing is dying in slow motion. So you need to push your body um to the absolute max several days a week, two, three, four days a week. And um and you'll be you'll be better off for it.

>> Yeah. Yeah, I've heard some studies about muscle mass in your legs can decide how long you live as you get like enter your elderly years, I guess. Um, so anyone >> is No, I thought you were done. Go ahead. >> Yeah. So, apparently like if you're 40 plus, especially if you're 50 plus, if you can keep your legs strong and your grip strong, >> then that will actually make your blood pressure lower and increase your lifespan in theory, right? So my thought on that is as long as you're using your legs, like if you're squatting below parallel, not just, you know, getting to a chair that is >> Yeah. where your where your hips are below your knees, if you can get down into that position and stand up with no hands, just stand up out of your chair, you know, with no hands and you can do that in your, say you're in your 60s or 70s, if you can do that 20 times in a row, you're probably going to be independent for quite a while. When you're 30, 40, 50, and your body's going through those hormonal changes that we all experience at this age. I'm 46 years old. I'm no I'm no exception to that. The more you can squat, the more pressure you put through your legs, the more your body goes, "Oh, we're still alive. Uh, well, let me pump out hormones like we're still alive." And your hormone profile will look a lot more like a 25-year-old than a 45year-old. But if you're just sitting around all day, your body's like, "Oh, we're dying. I'll give you hormones for death." you know, and and all of a sudden you're 45, but your hormone profile looks like you're 65. All your plumbing doesn't work. All your you know, your blood pressure is all screwed up and and um so yeah, I you know, work your body, people. Work your body. >> And that can boost your HGH a lot too as well, right? >> Yeah. All your hormones. Yeah. >> Yeah. And um I know a lot of people too, like I have brothers, they're already taking TRT >> and they're in their 40s. That seems early to me, but um you know, we have a lot of estrogen in our environment, so maybe that's part of it.

So, this is a member question from one of my members. So, obviously you do a lot of investigation. What's your go-to method for verifying your sources during the investigation? Do you have any lawyer tricks that you can uh share with the with the audience? >> Verifying your sources, obviously, if you can get a source document, that's that's pretty bulletproof. like if you can get a corporate document from a from the state filing and not just look at something floating around on X, go verify it yourself. So any source document you can verify. If you're talking to someone, you know, try to get some verification out of that person. That that helps as well. So don't just take someone's word for it, but but look for photographic evidence, you know, video, audio. that's getting a little more difficult as AI advances and and becomes pretty fancy, but um it uh you know, there's no real trick to it. It's it's curiosity. You know, why is someone qualified to be an an investigator? They're they're intellectually curious. They genuinely um My dog may start barking. Someone's knocking on my door. Uh they're genuinely curious. They want to know the answer and they they think this is why I like Brandy and Billy so much. They are very good at saying who should we talk to and they'll call they'll pick up the phone and call people like random people >> and people's family and yeah everything. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, you know, like when I was trying I'll give a little secret away on the Charlie Kirk investigation. When I was trying to figure out if the doctor was in on it or if the doctor really said that about the um the manneck >> Yeah. the surgeon. >> Yeah. I talked to a lot of people that know that guy. A lot. Uh, and I concluded very quickly he never said that. >> Yeah. I think I'm not sure who Candace spoke to, but I think she said something similar as well. >> I know who she spoke to.

>> So, in your humble >> believer. >> Yeah. So, in your humble opinion, what is your because everyone's gonna ask this, right? This probably this is probably in the questions that are coming up. In your humble opinion, what's your current theory or what threads have kept your attention around the Charlie Kirk case? So, we've seen several different theories. We I think a lot of people agree that it might have not have been a bullet, right? So, what's your what's your current theory or what's the closest thing to what you're kind of leaning towards, if anything? >> No, I I am leaning towards um so so I back up and start more globally. Is there evidence that Charlie Kirk was going to survive September 10th? And if there if there's evidence he was not going to survive September 10th, then what was happen? You know, who who who would be able to ensure he wasn't going to survive? And the first thing I looked at was we had a leak that that confirmed beyond in my opinion uh very confidently confirmed. It's in my opinion based on documentation I reviewed that Brian Harpole, who was the uh lead security contractor for Charlie Kirk, did not have plans to leave Salt Lake City. >> Yeah. >> Uh he had a flight into Salt Lake City from [clears throat] what I was told and what I was able to review. Now granted, there may be other things I didn't see and I'm willing to make that correction and I've offered this to him. If he if he will show me evidence that that this isn't correct, I'll be happy to correct it. But I've seen evidence that he did not have plans to leave Salt Lake City. There was no return flight to back to DFW. Nor was there a flight to Colorado the next day where Charlie Kirk was expected to speak. Nor was there a flight at all to any event which based on the documentation I reviewed uh was inconsistent with Harpole's pattern. So if you always book your flights 10 to 15 to 20 days ahead of time or more and now you have two, three, four events within that time window immediately after UVU, but you didn't book any flights, you weren't planning on going. That was my that was my conclusion. Now, if you weren't planning on going, you probably had a good idea he wasn't walking out of there. If you had a good idea he wasn't walking out of there, it wasn't Tyler Robinson from the Losi Center with a 30 six from his grandpappy. And so I I sort of back my way into that more than looking at the wound and suggesting the trajectory doesn't work or looking at the u you know the the mass of the bullet or the speed of the bullet as it arrives to the target and the energy transfer from the projectile into the body. I'm not even looking at all that at that point. I'm looking at, hey, guys on his teams didn't have on his team didn't have travel arrangements, that's that's problematic. Now, if they did have travel arrangements and and the person and my source just didn't give me complete information, then I will make that correction. >> Yeah. >> Because I'm only going on based on what I've seen and if he provides additional evidence, then I'll be happy to uh to correct that. Just like I did with uh the Sam triple0ero flight from Camp Springs to Colorado Springs. I'll be happy to correct that. So, I look at that then I say, "Okay, well, if it wasn't Tyler Robinson, what was it?" And how could someone be so sure? You wouldn't. Just like we were talking before we came on. You don't go live on a podcast without backups, right? You got a backup camera, you got a backup mic, you got a backup um soundboard, you got a backup docking station, you got backup monitors. Everything's backed up. You wouldn't get on an airplane where if the engine failed, you're going to die. There's all all airplane systems are in duplicate and triplicate, right? If it's a if it's a critical system and it goes down, there's a backup because you're in the air. Just pull over on the side of the road. You crash, you die. Uh, and and airplanes typically don't fall out of the sky. I mean, it's the safest mode of travel by far. So, if you you know, when I look at that, I think you wouldn't just pin it on one potential opportunity to kill him. You would you would have it in duplicate and triplicate. And so that's when I look at things like electrocution or I look at things like uh an exploding microphone or I look at things like potentially a manually broken neck which I think is very much a possibility based on the injuries that were documented or that we were told were documented. >> Yeah. >> So I look at this and think, well maybe they did two or three or four different things to make sure he was dead. Um, you know, was he tased? Was he was something injected into him? We did see a hypodermic needle right before he went down. Um, there there's just there's just so many possibilities. And if if you knew he wasn't going to leave, you would not leave it up to a 20-year-old kid on a roof 140 yards away. That just wouldn't happen. >> And yeah, I agree. Even regardless of training, you can take someone who's highly trained and put them in that situation, they could still miss. So why would you chance that? >> Right. Right. So um I just don't uh I mean that's that's got my current operating theories. It was a multiple multiple causes of death. Any one of which may have been able to kill him. All of which together were guaranteed to kill him. >> Yeah, it's interesting. I like that approach though, like starting from the top, like why would it happen? Who would do it? Who benefits from it? All those type of things. And then work your way down to what actually happened, which we may never know, right? >> Hopefully we will. >> Hopefully.

So, how has your faith influence your decision to pursue truth seeeking in your podcasting? I know you've mentioned faith a few times. >> Yeah. Um, you know, I went to mass this morning. We take our faith very seriously in this house. Uh, doesn't mean we've lived perfect lives, made mistakes in my life, obviously. Um, but, you know, we we do try to to be serious about it and take it seriously. And I um, you know, I I guess my faith influences it in that I'm not going to BS people just and lie to them just to like you said earlier just to just to run a show or just to get clicks or or say something outrageous just for the sake of saying it. If I say something, I believe it. Like I I believe everything I've gone with so far that it that at least and I'll tell people if I believe it 100% is the cause or 100% happened or if I'm holding back. Like I'm pretty confident he didn't have plane tickets out of there, but I'm not going to say he didn't because maybe he used a different airline. Maybe he booked through somebody that wasn't an employee of his. Maybe he there's could have been any number of ways that that he um that there were plane tickets I haven't found. And I'm willing to correct that. But I will say this, the person I talked to was pretty confident he didn't have plane tickets out of there and plane tickets anywhere else afterwards. Now, this is an interesting one because I've heard this many times. Um, how do you respond to claims from people that independent podcasters like us are just chasing money that we're just making things up to uh put on a good show? >> Prove me wrong. >> Yeah, prove me wrong. Um, show where I've show where I've gone astray. Because as long as I'm telling the truth, then fine. Then people are justified to tune in and listen. I'm justified to keep saying what I'm saying. Prove me wrong. If if you don't if you believe that I'm just over here making stuff up, show me that they weren't at Fort Wuka. Show me he had flight a flight a flight planned after September 10th. >> Yeah. >> You know, the these are easy things to show me. Show me uh more pictures from the SUV. Show me more pictures from and around there. Go ahead and release the full video footage from behind him. I mean, you could they could put all this to bed instantly. Show me the video of the of the guy getting in position and taking the shot. You know, this is not a normal investigation all the time. You know how many times a law enforcement agency releases body cam footage to quell the public? It's not normal, but it happens. Uh, in an officer involved shooting, a lot of times they will release the body cam footage because there are riots forming and the public safety is in jeopardy and they say, "Hey, we will compromise the investigation in order to satisfy the public that that everything's on the up and up." So, they they obviously could do it and it's not normal, but they could do it. They could release the autopsy report that it's not I mean, Erica Kirk could release it tomorrow. She owns it essentially. >> I mean, autopsy photos. There's so many ways you could prove us wrong. >> One, like Manion, right? He shot the CEO >> and they released it. >> Everyone's seen it. So, why can't they release Tyler taking the shot? Why not? >> Yeah. I mean, we watched that guy get shot in the back a thousand times in two days, right? It was it was obvious somebody did, whether it was Luigi or whether it was a lookalike. I don't know. I mean, that's up to them. They'll have to to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it was him. But I I did think that was odd that he was and I actually commented on my podcast long before you guys ever found me. Uh I thought it was odd that he was found in a McDonald's seven states away, but he forgot to get rid of the gun. He forgot to get rid of the manifesto. He forgot to get rid of the written confession. Now he he could have made it very difficult on the police and he didn't. He did everything in his pos possible to make it easy. So,

>> so this is um I want to give people some like a glance into kind of your daily routine. So, on a typical day, you're setting up for a real Baron podcast. >> You're starting to do your research. You're starting to write, >> you're trying to, you know, you start getting into that mode. >> How does that how does that day look? Like, what do you what's going through your head when you're preparing for something like this? because I don't know if a lot of people realize if you're not already subscribed, he'll have 20 25,000 people watching. So, when you have that many people and you have that many eyes on you, you have to come out with something that's legit and you have to be able to perform and that kind of stuff and be consistent and have integrity and everything else. And you've done it over and over again. So, how do you prepare for that? >> Um, so my day is pretty consistent. It always has been. And I'm not necessarily a creature of habit as much as some people are in their day. Now my hours have shifted a little bit. I used to wake up around 5:00 and now I'm waking up around 7:00 just cuz I'm going to bed later. Um like you you probably get the same thing, a giant adrenaline dump as soon as you get off the air. Um, you know, your adrenaline's been rolling this entire time and then you get off the air and it's like you get this dump. Um sometimes I don't get off the air till 10 or 10:30 and I can't. And then you got post-production, right? You got to do some trimming. You got to get it up. You got to, you know, >> upload it to other platforms. You've got to, you know, do all your post-production stuff. You got to add chapters and all that. And so that takes 30 minutes or an hour. So by the time you get done, it might be 11, 11:30 before you're even ready to go to bed. I like to get clean before I go to bed. So then you got to take a shower. That wakes you up a little bit. So I may not get into bed until 11:30 to 12:30. Sometimes 1:00 in the morning. I can't wake up at 4 anymore like I used to. So, um I will wake up at at 7ish 7:30 some days, which which seems so lazy to me, but it's um it's becoming a new habit. I don't drink coffee for two hours when I get up because I think it's terrible for you. So, I try to hold off as long as I can. Uh let all those sleep chemicals get out of your body before you have the first cup of coffee. This is actually only my second cup of coffee right here today and it's already 3:00. And so, um, I will kick into my office and, um, make sure everything's still rolling from the night before. If I did a show the night before, you know, make sure everything's still up, YouTube hadn't complained about anything, which sometimes they do. >> Yeah. >> Um, and you got to argue with them the next day. Hate that. But make sure everything's still up and running. Make sure Spotify is up and running. Rumble's still up and running. And then um and then I'll start thinking about usually I have eight or 10 stories or eight or 10 um things that I'm running down in my head and I'll think which ones should I cover today and then I'll start playing um some podcasts in the background while I do some research and I'll listen to you. I'll listen to coach. I'll listen to you know Ian if he's if he's done a show. I'll listen to Jesse. uh Valhalla sometimes uh if he looks like he's covering something. So I will um I'll go through and listen to a few people while I'm doing some research and then I'll start writing um usually around 9:30 or 10 in the morning, sometimes 10:30, I'll start writing and I usually start with the first sentence. I don't know what it is I want to do, but I'll start with the first sentence. And once I get that first sentence out, that's how I've always written. Once I get that first sentence out of my head and on paper, then I write like a crazy man. Like I I write very quickly mistakes. I don't correct anything. I never hit the backspace. Just go vomit on paper and it's almost illeible and then I'll put it aside. I don't want to look at it again. >> And and while I'm going I'll say insert fact, insert fact, insert fact, insert fact. Now I got to go back and find all the facts to support everything I just said. Sometimes I look and the facts are not what I thought they were going to say. So I've got to go back and change it or delete paragraphs or rework it. So that takes time. I mean, that's a multiple hour process of just writing the opening. While I'm writing it, I'm taking breaks as things pop in my head that I want to run down. Like, oh my gosh, I want to run down the crazy lady who lives over in Arrington, Tennessee. Um, Lori Cardardoza Moore, who's a freaking nutcase. Uh, my opinion, not not yours. Uh, and not a fact certainly, but my opinion, she's she's a lunat. And so, I want to look up, you know, where does she get her money? And so I I go pull her tax returns and I I start looking at that and I I think well where's she spending on how much are they spending on? And so I'll just start and then I make notes like I I I write notes on paper the oldfashioned way. And then once I do that I open a Google doc and I do a run of show like how I want to structure the show. It always starts with the open. So the open is also on a Google doc and I link it into the run of show. So all I have to do is click it and it pops up on the screen. And then I'll I'll I'll do my open and then I have either one, two, or three stories typically I'll cover depending on how long I think they'll take. And then I'll put all my supporting documentation that I want to show on air, whether it's a video timestamped or whether it's a, you know, a 990 form or some website, but I'll I'll hyperlink those into the run a show. And then when I feel like I've got, you know, a a good show lined up that's worthy of people's time, then I will go back to the open and I'll I'll edit it down a little bit. Not perfectly because as you'll see, I trip all over it when I do it live. If I Now, maybe when my sister comes on board, I'll have more time to do that. Um, but I will um I'll go down and edit it down. Now, if if I get to the end of that and I've still got a couple hours, that's when I go to the emails and open it up and start looking through emails, get on X, look around, see what other people are talking about, you know, and sometimes you change your mind 2 hours before a show and go, I don't want to go that way, you know, and um I'll work this open into this story. And so you you switch and you cover a new story or what happens sometimes is I'll watch Candace, you know, she usually goes an hour or two before I go and then I'll look at it and be like, I gotta follow up on that. You know, >> now I'm editing the run of show while my countdown's going on. Um that that probably most famously happened when she showed the picture of the SUV and I saw all the fragmented plastic in the back while she was talking and I thought it was an exploded mic. Like it sure >> that show. Yep. Yeah. I I don't know. Have you ever showed your audience what those road mics look like in person? >> I've got one. Hang on. I'll go grab it real quick. Okay. >> I've got one and and I'll show you why I'm so confident. Give me just a second. >> Yep. And while he's doing that, make sure you guys hit the like and subscribe. And we are going to get to your questions after we get done with my questions. So, if you have I see there's there's some that are being queued up. And uh Kelly Raybon is helping us out by getting all the questions organized. So, make sure huge shout out for her. Make sure you go follow her as well. So, this is the Go3. This he I think he was wearing a Go One, but this is the Go 3. Um, but they look like this. This is a a road wireless microphone. They're about 2 in 1.8 in each way. And you'll notice the plastic on the front is shiny and the plastic on the back is flat. That is ABS plastic. It's the same plastic that they put in all basically electronic devices and everything else. And what he has is, and my clip is over there, but he has a me a magnetic clip. So, the microphone stays under here like this. And the magnetic clip goes on the back. And these are really good microphones. Really really good microphones. And they record locally. Um, and they and they record wherever you tell them to record at the same time. And it's it's it's just a fantastic piece of equipment. You know, everybody who does any content creation, if you ever think you might want to do content on the road, you need that microphone. I think, you know, or a DJI version of it, but I like this one better than the DJI. But it's it's it's high quality mic. I see why he uses it. I I see why they they had one on him, but I also see why if that thing exploded, it would have little broken, fragmented pieces of shiny and flat black plastic everywhere. And you could see it on the platform he was sitting on after he you could clearly see it was not there before he went down. Afterwards, you could clearly see two or three pieces of that fragmented plastic where he was. You could see it all over the SUV where he was as if they took the shirt off of him and it fell out onto the floor. And that and I've also seen additional photos from inside that SUV uh that were not shown on air because they're so horrifically bloody. Uh and they are everywhere. That black plastic is You can't tell me it's something else. Now, someone had >> someone had a really good question about that because I have shown it a few times um when I was explaining certain things, but the thing that someone said is it with how much plastic is everywhere, could one mic that size really have created that much plastic? That was that was the big question and I was thinking about it. I don't know. That's a good question, but there's definitely a lot that's obviously shown in a lot of places. So, I agree. >> Yeah. Let me pull it back up. >> And I know I know Ian also talked about some like falling down and you can see it in some of the uh video, right? You can see little pieces that appear to be flying out in the video. >> So you have a 2x2 in on on on two sides. So that's eight square in of plastic just on the sides here. That's eight square inches of plastic just on the sides. Plus you have this plastic clip plus you have all this plastic here on on all four sides. Right? So all of this plastic together is like a it would be like a 10 square inch piece of plastic if if you if you um >> broaden it out. >> So I mean that's a lot and I don't I don't know. I mean what else is it? You tell me what it is. Give me again if if they don't like us saying it it looks like an exploded mic, tell us what the hell it is. They have that option. But yeah, if you if you don't have this and you're a content creator, go get one. I mean, it's cheap. It's under 200 bucks. Get the whole set. >> Yeah, I think they're great. Um, the one he had also at some point they had kind of a glass front, like the shiny part in the front was actually almost like the old iPhones where they like glass in the back as well. >> Yeah. >> And that, you know, maybe that's what you saw inside the vehicle because some of it to me looked really shiny. And I know certain certain plastic if you heat it heated up, it will get shinier as it gets hotter. >> That could be a possibility, too. But >> yeah.

>> All right. So, to change gears a little bit, um, we talked about some of the weird emails and things that we receive, but what is the most rewarding fan interaction that you've had from your podcast so far? >> I've met a lot of really cool people uh, doing this in the last few months. Um, I've met people that I I almost consider friends already that I've never actually talked to in person. Um, you know, and and Brandy and Billy I actually did meet in person. I came to the middle Tennessee area and we met up for I was in a hurry. My my wife had to to pick up our kids from a homeschool co-op, so we we could only spend a few minutes with them, but um, you know, we we got to sit and chat for 30 minutes or so. That was very rewarding. Um Ian has been, you know, very uh rewarding getting to know him uh better, you know, uh have a good good um working relationship with him. That's uh that's great. getting to know Candace obviously uh the way her mind works and the way her uh thought process works but that's just that's just obviously you uh others I mean there a lot of the creator side that that's been very rewarding getting to talk to I mean the only reason people can see me is you you fixed my camera and you didn't even you know you kept saying essentially hey idiot you have to fix this and so finally I was like fine and I finally uh had a a 20 minute 30-minute window where I could pull up your video that you sent me and and uh step by stepped through the settings and got that fixed. Um fan side, um you know, uh like like Daisy May for example, people that are truly helpful, that truly have a good investigatory mind, they're rare. They're rare in life. And she is so sharp. I mean, you just ask her, "Hey, have you ever heard this?" And boom, she'll find it. Ally Top File, same way. She's very um she's very good at at tracking stuff down. She's helped me quite a bit. Um, I'd say that's probably the most rewarding side. Now, from a personal like not that's that's helping the show. All that's helping the show from a personal perspective when I read comments and people say, "I went back to church for the first time in 20 years because >> I've been watching your show. I've been watching Candace and you guys say how faith is important to you and that's important to me and like I can't it has brought me to tears. not on camera because I try to I try to be pretty uh pretty straight on camera, but yeah, stoic. That's a good way to put it. >> Um, but like there have been times I've thought about like why on earth, Lord, would you trust me with anything remotely resembling someone's salvation? [laughter] You know, I >> Yeah, >> I look at that and I think, wow, I just I can't even begin to contemplate uh the that and it's it's that is so from a personal perspective so rewarding. I mean, can you imagine when this is all said and done and and everybody's gathered around, somebody walks up to you and says, "I wouldn't be here, but I I was watching you talk about Charlie Kirk and decided to go back to church, went to confession, started, you know, I mean, what like that is >> yo eternity changing, not life-changing. that that I mean that's a that's a decision that extends well beyond >> this mortal realm. >> So yeah, that's probably from a personal perspective by far. I mean it doesn't get more rewarding than that.

>> So how do you typically handle burnout? I don't know if you've reached it yet. >> I mean I'm burned out in every job I've ever had. What do you mean by that? >> Yeah. So for example, like uh it sounds like you've been in radio for a long time >> and you enjoy having conversations and talking to people and teaching and all that stuff. Did you need some water? No, no, sorry. Sorry. I I I uh my throat sucks and I I chew these things until they go away. >> Oh, yeah. The the Manuka honey. >> So good. >> Are you getting sponsored? You They should sponsor you. Manuka, if you're listening, sponsor Baron. >> Yeah, this is this brand is called Wetter Spoon and it's it's only got good ingredients. It's organic cane sugar, organic manuka honey, uh brown organic brown rice syrup, and then just some flavors and then propololis powder. And it is it I mean it really does save my um save my throat, keeps me going. So, one thing I I don't really want to get too deep into this. Obviously, uh, Wolves in Finance and Danks, Dankster, if you guys haven't checked out Dank, um, Dank has some awesome information and he kind of took like the Wolves in Finance piece and kind of ran with it and he has a a lot of really good information. Um, so make sure you check him out. He is Danks with an S on YouTube. He's also on X. Don't watch him right now. He's live. Don't don't go away from us to watch him. [laughter] >> I've got my subscriber list up right now. And I see you uh you're live and Danks is live. So don't don't switch. Stay with us, >> but watch them after. Make sure you watch them after. >> Yeah, go watch this replay because I'm not on today. You got plenty of time to watch them.

>> So now, as far as TP USA finances go, um some of the alleged fraud and different things people are talking about. I know it's a touchy subject, but um how do you like the more that we learn, you can't help but think that something sketchy might be going on. So, [sighs and gasps] and and obviously if you're over the target and someone sends you a cease and desist, that can also inform. So, what what what are your thoughts on that in general? Just that the finances situation or, you know, some of the other situations going on around uh TPSA faith and the the the actors that are involved. So, what I I was I've been very clear about this and I know it probably irritates some people when I say it. I was not a Charlie Kirk fan at the end. Um, I remember liking Charlie Kirk when I was younger, you know, 10 10 years ago or more. I remember really liking Charlie Kirk. I liked what he stood for. I liked his um, you know, just being around politics my whole life essentially. Um, I remember um, when he kind of came on the scene and was was doing his college tours and and putting material out. I really liked him because I, you know, he he appealed to the libertarian financial person in me. You know, we we all have this naive that that if everybody if the government would just spend less money, our lives would all improve drastically and and he he sort of approached the world that way. I think it's pretty naive, but but that was his that was his approach. You know, let's just worry about the money and everything else will take care of itself. And I I like that about him. And then I kind of quit paying attention to him for a while as my life got more complicated, more kids on board, job started taking time. And then in the last four or five years as I watched him I would think every time he would speak I was like why dude why are you such a shill for this globalist corporist perspective. It is so different from the early Charlie Kirk. And so I started not really caring much for his >> his presentation what he had to say. But I still liked him as a person. I still respected him. I still respected his game. I just didn't particularly care for his positions at that point. And and it was a noticeable shift. And and that's why I on my show often go back and show old clips of Charlie so people can see the shift. >> What I'm learning now is the shift coincided with the arrival of Tyler Boyer and then later his wife. >> Yeah. >> Because there were two seismic shifts in his life. One around 2015 16. That's when Tyler Boyer showed up and another around 2018 to 2020 and that's when he met his wife and married her. and and and each time he took on a a role well outside of the of the um >> stated goals of TPUSA. Yeah. Well outside of the stated goals of TPUSA >> and and so when when I look at that, it's easy for me now. I never bothered to pull their taxes before. I never cared enough, frankly. But now I look back and I pull it and I think, "Oh, okay. I see what was going on." you know, and I remember having a conversation with a friend of mine before he passed, but within six months before he passed, and and this is a longtime political operative, um, and you know, somebody who got involved in national politics and vice presidents and whatever. And they mentioned Charlie Kirk and they were like, you know, he has like five houses. And I was like, what are you talking about? He's not make that much money. They're like, I bet Charlie makes 10 million a year or more. And I was like, that's impossible. No way. And then after he passed, I start looking. And I'm like, hell, he might have been making way more than $10 million a year. You know, he was making it seemed like over a million just from TP USA. And I know he had all these side deals. Um, and so I I started thinking, you know, money has a weird effect on people. It just does. You know, you you take someone who's who was sleeping on couches and making $25,000 a year at this nonprofit and all of a sudden they're making eight figures potentially per year. >> Yeah. >> Or at least seven figures. And Yeah. I mean, I could see him going along with with some things that that maybe didn't fit the original plan and purpose of TPUSA. And so, that's that's kind of what I I make of the money is I think there's a lot there. There's a lot that we probably won't know just by reviewing the public records because there was so much going on behind the scenes. I'm fascinated when Candace said that there was potentially a an opportunity to get into some real estate. >> Yeah. >> What is that? You know, I think I've run down a few leads that have turned out to be dead ends, but but as I was looking at them, I thought, "Oh, there might be something here." >> Well, it could be an Erica Kirk influence, right? Like maybe it's just something she was interested in and something she has experience in supposedly. Maybe. >> Well, I mean, she did supposedly either commercial or residential real estate in New York. >> I've seen no evidence she did other than the fact she said she did. >> Yeah. >> Uh I've never seen her name on a deal. I'll say that. >> Yeah. I think um I think [clears throat] Wen Finance and Danks are doing a great job covering all of that stuff for the most part. Obviously, they're they're they're digging into it hard, but then there's a huge amount of people on X, especially like Diligent and Project Constitution and other people. There's a lot of people that are digging into this behind the scenes >> that typically you don't see their face, but thanks to everyone who's digging into all this stuff.

>> Now, this one is >> Sorry. Go ahead. >> Are you you okay on your end? >> Yeah. Um, I'm checking that somebody in the chat is who they say they are because I I think somebody may be impersonating somebody. Go ahead. >> Gotcha. >> Yeah. Moderators, if you are out there, if you think that someone is uh acting incorrectly, >> never mind. My sister's on the chat. Sorry. >> Kick his sister. Kick his sister. Okay. >> Yeah. >> No, leave her in here. She's great. [laughter]

>> All right. So, now this is a controversial question. You can pass if you want. You can 100% pass on this question if you want to. Um, do you alleged right do you think Charlie knew about what was going on within his uh his corporation within his uh company? Do you think that he was complacent in any of it? Do you think that he was hiding some of it? Do you think he was running from something and just because the fact that he was out in the field and other people were like kind of gifted the company to run it? Um, do you believe that these people that say that there's no way he could have known he's innocent and they were all playing him? Yeah. Um, I I haven't I haven't come to a complete answer on that. I mean, I I have there are times I see things and I think there's just no way he couldn't have known. >> Yeah. >> You know, and if he knew, then there's uh potential culpability. So, that that that happens sometimes. And then then sometimes I look and I I see things he said or did or or things attributed to him and I think they just did all this without his knowledge, you know, and I don't I don't know which is right. I don't know um that anybody can definitively say one way or the other at this point, but you know, I I think, you know, just an opinion looking at everything. I don't I don't know this for sure, but look in opinion looking at everything. I wouldn't run a nonprofit that way. >> Yeah. And and I've advised nonprofit I've advised nonprofits structured very similarly with a 501c3 that takes in big donations, you know, seven figure donations and then has a 501c4 on the side that does some political work. I I've I've been involved in this like I've advised these a good one of my mentors ran a company like this for a long time. A guy who mentored me in politics uh that I did a lot of work for on my way up. he ran an organization almost identical to that 501c3 base um and that's where everything was sort of headquartered and then a 501c4 on the side that would get involved in local races, get involved in statewide races, get involved in presidential politics and um >> yeah, >> so I would have never advised them to to structure any I would never have advised them to do half the stuff they were doing. >> Yeah. Yeah, I think something I'm seeing very common in some of my latest videos in the comments is people are saying how could Charlie have not known about some of this stuff. So, and of course, you know, he's he's passed. You know, we're not talking bad about him. We're not indicating that he's a bad person or anything, but you just have to ask these questions. And um that definitely has come up a lot.

All right. So, I know this I know this is your day off, >> so this will be the last official interview question >> and then we'll we'll get to the the live audience and their questions. Okay? Okay, I I don't want to have you here all day. Um, do you believe that demons played a role in Charlie Kirk's demise? And do you think that TPUSA staff might be demonic or under the influence of demons? So, second question first, yes, I do. Um, I believe there's a demonic influence just crawling all over that place. Um, and I don't I don't want to get in necessarily to to why I think that right now, but I I do believe that um that the demonic influence is real in this realm and that they love the political side because it has the ability to impact so many people. >> Yes. >> And I look at the people around him and I think this is classic. Like this is this is what it would look like. And so I I to answer that question, yes. Um, do I believe Charlie was influenced? Was that your first question? Do I believe Charlie was influenced by demons?

Yes, Charlie Kirk directly. I don't know. I'm going to I'm going to reserve that one because I I don't know the answer and I don't know that I even have a gut instinct either way that way right now.

True. Now, we did a poll around this and we said, "Is Erica Kirk a demon?" 82% say yes. [laughter]

82%. Sorry, girl. That's that's pretty stout. That may that may say more about her audience than her. Um, look, her eyes do weird things, man.

Yeah. Yeah, that their eyes do weird things. So, there's a movie called Nefarious. Have you ever seen it?

No. Watch it. It's on Netflix. I think it's still on Netflix. If you can watch Nefarious, do um a uh the Diosis and Exorcist here in Nashville said it was the most realistic demonic movie he's ever seen. It is um it is phenomenal. And it gives you an idea of this what I'm talking about. Meaning, you know, demons can't take up residence in a in a holy soul. They can't take up residence in a in somebody in a state of grace. So, you know, if you live a sinful lifestyle, if you issue God, if you deny Christ, then then your soul is open. It's like leaving the front door open to your house and going on vacation. Doesn't mean raccoons are going to move in, but they have license to be there. No one's stopping them. And I think that's what happens in and around not only TPUSA but a lot of political action a lot of political activity because uh there is so much sin. I had no idea, you know, when I was a kid and a young person, I had this idealist, you know, um, yeah, idealistic notion that people went into politics for the right reason and they were holy people and they just wanted to better mankind and all they agreed to take these pittences of salaries in order to affect the greater good and they were they were public servants. They were sacrificing themselves and I started

well I think a lot do and then I started working in politics and I realized no they're all crooks. They're all corrupt. They're all, you know, trading on inside information. They're all, you know, screwing around with everybody who will move and wiggle. You know, doesn't matter what they look like or what they're carrying between their jeans. It's it's um, you know, it's just a it's a grotesque environment and an absolutely horrific environment. And it's it's like a satanic paradise. you know, if if if you're a demon looking for a soul to light in that that you don't need to go far, just go to a u a large political gathering and there'll be plenty of people there to choose from. And um and and and I believe this and and based on the things I've seen that are pretty credible in and around Charlie, I think there was a lot of opportunity for for uh the demonic influence to take up shop. And so I I you know, if you watch the movie Nefarious, you'll see that that's that's kind of how the the demonic realm works.

Yeah. A lot of people don't realize things like Ouija boards and stuff like that open it up.

Portals.

Yeah. Portals. You go, you go consulting the dead, you've opened yourself up. Now, they may doesn't mean everybody who uses a Ouija board is possessed by demons, but we've been advised pretty clearly, don't do this. Don't do this because uh you know you're not talking to Aunt Sue. Like if you go in search of Aunt Sue, you're not talking to Aunt Sue. I don't care if Aunt Sue through the medium tells you something. Only Aunt Sue would have known cuz only the two of you were paddling that canoe across the lake when she told you that. You know who else has perfect knowledge of everything that they overhear and they they're not bound by time or space. So you ask this medium, uh tell me something. Well, they just the the demon just goes and looks at the conversation and then recounts it to you.

Yep. Through the medium. And now you've now you've opened yourself up. You've engaged. So this is the Ouija board. This is psychics. This is, you know, mediums, all these kinds of things. And I just I I think it's terrifying. And people take it so lightly these days. People are asking where they can see Nefarious. Is that on Netflix?

It was. I think it still is. Um, so for everyone in chat, while he's doing that, if you guys appreciate Baron here, type Baron in chat, show him some love, and we are going to get into the super chats and questions. We don't want to keep him here all day. It's his day off. We appreciate him being here.

Let me say one more thing about the demons real quick. Um,

I know not everybody is a believer in the, you know, the the demonic or the spiritual realm of them. So, you'll get a lot of people who say, "Oh, don't talk about that. Don't talk." Actually, I don't see it on on Netflix. You may have to check Prime. You may have to check other streaming sources. It's out there. It's somewhere. Um, but, you know, it it doesn't mean it's not real for one. And just because you wouldn't be able to, you know, put it in a state of the union speech, just because you wouldn't be able to convict somebody in court, take it in front of a grand jury, doesn't mean it's not real. And it doesn't mean we can't talk about it. You know, that's what I was talking about earlier. One of the things I like about podcasting as opposed to practicing law is I can just talk about things that I believe. I don't have to be bound by the federal rules of evidence. So, um, I kind of I kind of dispatch with that notion that that we should leave spiritual things out of the public discussion about what's going on in politics because I think they're critical.

100%. I would agree. All right, we're going to start getting into the questions for Baron and super chat. And Kimberly Hawkins, thanks for becoming a channel member.

Is that Kimberly Hawkins from Alabama? I know a Kimberly Hawkins.

Anyway, go ahead. Sorry. And Skeer, thanks for the super. Let's see. Marty Lamartina Baron, have you ever drifted away from the Catholic Church? If not, great. If so, why and when? And what brought you back? Are you familiar with Jeff Cavens or Scott Han version conversions?

Yeah, I'm familiar with both of them. Very familiar with both of them. Um, drifted away [clears throat] from the Catholic Church. Not in the sense that I stopped going. Um, did I have periods of my life where I was making pretty horrific decisions? Yeah. I mean, I think I think that's the that's the the growth trajectory of of how we we become better people, right? We make mistakes, we learn from them. It's the same thing your kids do. You wouldn't say they're they're drifting from from being good kids just because they, you know, sneak out of the house or or, you know, drink a Miller Light when they're 15 years old with their buddies, but you hope that they they learn that that's not the way they're supposed to behave and that and that they make better decisions. So, I hope that answers your question.

Tal, thanks for becoming a channel member. What does your hoodie say?

Uh, they all flew to Epstein's Island. This is uh available in the Brandy and Billy gift shop. You can go grab this hoodie. It's fantastic. They've got great They got great merch. They got a hat that says allegedly. I love it. [laughter] I got

Make sure you guys Make sure you guys go check them out. Brandy and Billy show on YouTube and other social media. They do an awesome job.

It lists all the people who flew to Epstein's or list a bunch of people. So, it's it's a fun shirt.

A few look familiar. Yeah, a lot of them are familiar. for a light for Baron.

I've got a light. I just got it. I like I said, I like those sultry uh uh Do you have Do you have the soft box? Like do you have like the full

um That's what it looks like.

Okay. Yeah. So, you do have it. Okay, cool. Yeah, I think I think it looks good.

I was trying to find something. Yeah, it's it's it's diffused. I mean, it's it's um and I've got some back lighting that that hits the wall behind me. Um, but yeah, it's uh I've got it turned down. It's on 16 right now. And when I go live or it's on 12, I think when I go live, I I put on six or five. So, I do it much much dimmer than you do. I had to crank it up because I looked

I look like I was in a cave compared to your like your beautiful studio lighting. You give him the candle light special.

Do what? You give him the candle light special. That's

right. That's right. [laughter] Oh, we got to pull the Holy Bible out occasionally and I got to have enough light to read it because people will pay me to read verses,

which I always feel we really weird about. I'm like, I don't know if I should be taking $10 to read John 4:3, but whatever. I do it. [laughter] Ivan is Ivan. Always a pleasure. Thanks for

He's great. Just say Julie, what a treat watching on two platforms. Go Max. Thanks, guys. What What's the second platform? YouTube and what else? I'm curious. I know Rumble's starting to pick up.

Are we on Rumble as well? What What other What else are you streaming to? We're doing uh Twitch, Rumble, and YouTube.

Okay, Hope Bean, thanks for the super. Giving you some love on behalf of Baron. We're staying warm. Aloha from Virginia. And God bless. Thank you very much, [snorts]

Pim. Thanks for the super. Some very draconian hate speech and anti-protest laws about to be passed in Australia. We are cooked. Pray for us.

You need to move. Australia's cooked. Uh, let's see. Interesting. One sober Buckeye. Baron Coleman, are you under captured by feds? That's not a Adidas hoodie. [clears throat]

No, I'm fine. I'm fine. I just I I was actually wearing a uh just a t-shirt and then I thought, no, you know, I should I should put something warmer on. I was a little chilly.

Baron is a gift to us all. As are you, Trigger Smart. Stick together. Billy and Brandy. Brandy and Billy show. Thanks for the super. Hey friends, nice hoodie, Baron.

Little shameless plug. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. $5 advertisement. You can't get better than that.

Are you guys going to be a radio station? Coach in the AM, Trigger Smart Mid PM, then Candace, then Baron after.

Uh, you know, I I like that lineup. I'll be honest with you. Let's see. I'm just going through some of these. Uh, thanks for the membership. Uh, do you do you have any comments on Blake Bednars and what was going on with him if you know about it. Some people are asking about it, but

yeah. So, I I didn't follow it that closely. I like Blake. I'll say that. Um, Blake has been nothing but a pro to me. Um, I just dropped another lozenge down on the ground.

He's been great in the investigation. Yeah, Blake's been great, man. I like Blake. I I don't hold people to their worst moments. And if he's had some some moments he's not proud of, then I'm not going to hold him to that. You know, I I treat people how they treat me. And I take them for what they are now. If I if I had a notion that he was somehow, you know, being dishonest or dishonorable today, then I would hold that potentially against him. I don't um I I've I've found him nothing but kind. uh very professional every time I've talked to him. And again, the things that that I saw that came out were more than a decade old. I mean, you know, I'm not judging somebody by what they were 10 years ago. That's that that that prohibits growth. And I and and it and it rules somebody out because of a mistake they've made 10 years ago. I'm not going to do that. So, I wish he wouldn't have gone away. Hey, I wish you would have uh just stood up and done a 10-minute video feed and pinned it to the top of his YouTube and said, "Hey, I've done a lot of things in my life I'm not proud of. You only know of a few of them. Um, but you know what? I'm a better man today than I was then, and I hope you'll judge me accordingly." And then he kept doing what he's doing.

100%. And just real quick, moment of silence. [laughter] I got a cape. I'm like, Erica,

there is no Adidas, though. I was trying to get Adidas on there, but it wasn't working. Wasn't working.

That's all right. That's all right. We'll allow it. Limit Breaker, thanks for the super. Glad I could catch one of your lives. It's great having Baron on. I still think the actions and reactions on the video give us a lot of info, especially when we add what we know now. I appreciate you. Thank you very much, Ally. Top Files, how's it going, Ally? Love the hoodie. Billy and Brandy merch. When is Cupa Joe merch coming? Amazing live, guys.

Working on it. Uh, my sister is going to be tasked with uh with figuring all that out. I just don't have time to deal with it right now. And I know there are a lot of people in my chat that are uh in emails that are like, "Oh, I'll handle the merch for you." I'll just have her do it. Like, we're going to get her up to speed. She's very sharp. She's very smart, very funny. Um, I'll get her up to speed and she'll be spinning like a top in no time. And we'll and we'll get all that going.

Yeah. And if you do a spring or fourth wall or something similar, it integrates directly with YouTube. makes it super easy to manage all that stuff. So

yeah, we we'll make it work. Ivan is Ivan. Another super chat. What? Coach for morning coffee. Baron and Matt for lunch. Man crush overload. Thank goodness for Brandy and Billy.

See, I didn't know people knew your real name. I've always referred to you as trigger smart even though your phone betrayed who what your real name was when you

Yeah, [laughter] for sure. Yeah. I get both. I get trigger trig trigger daddy the other day is interesting.

Wow. What was her name? No, I'm just kidding. [laughter] Let's see. Do you ask Candace if she ever met Charlie Kirk's family?

I'm not going to talk about that.

Okay. Uh, we'll skip that one too then for the same reason. Uh, Stephano Ham, thanks for the super. Baron retired from his day job just in time. Lots of Zionist judges. Hardy har. Hey Baron, where's John Coen? What's up with Jason Goodman? We had talked about Blake B already.

Yeah. I don't I asked I asked Jason directly where's John and he he gave me he gave me enough that I know John is safe and and alive and and um but I I'm not going to I don't want to betray any of the rest of that conversation. John's fine. John will reappear probably at some point. He's disappeared before. Jan, thanks for the super. Baron, you're not in Adidas. Gary Blinket Blake Nefsp speed for help.

[laughter] I'm good. I'm good. I just wanted to show off uh Brandy and Billy merch.

Who's in a room with you? Yeah. Yeah. I think Brandy and Billy have some um really good design skill. I actually liked a lot of their stuff and that alleged allegedly. Yeah, that's I'm going have to pick some up for sure.

Yeah, hopefully they do XL. Jody, thanks for the super Brit here, but now know more about US politics than my own since CK. Hope we worldwide can get justice for Charlie. Do you think that will ever happen? Go Max.

I don't know. I don't know. It's a tough one. We'll keep going. I know that. Texas Gal, Sophia, appreciate you reading comments. It keeps it communal. Legendary Scott Adams passed away and I was looking for a high IQ podcast club. Found a great group. Candace, Colin, Baron, Chris, Brandy, and Billy. Awesome.

Good crew. You've You've You've landed, lady. You've landed. I'm sorry it takes six of us to replace the great Scott Adams. Yeah. [laughter] And Mallaloy says, "Baron, what do your kids and wife think about you being home more now, but now in your office most of the day?"

I've been home for years. Um, I've been working at home since 200 uh gosh, since uh January of 2001 or 2000, excuse me, 21. January 2021. So, I've been I've been home since I went off air on the radio.

I Yeah, I started with COVID. Well, I I was I was working for a company based out of Boston and uh we did have a local office where I was living, but no one really went in. maybe once or twice a week. So, a couple days a week I would go in. Uh, but most of the time I worked from home and then when I changed jobs to a company headquartered here locally where I am. Um, again, I would go in a couple of three days a week at first and then when I broke my ankle in uh May of 22, I couldn't get up and down our stairs at the office and I really couldn't get out of the house. So I I just would work from this office in the where I am now more often and uh and I just kept that schedule and I would was only going to the office once every month or two there at the end. Was that a CrossFit injury?

Yeah. I fell off a rope. Yeah. Being a badass, you hurt yourself. I know how it goes. It happened. It happened.

I got to know what Baron was looking at when he was describing the picture. Someone could hypothetically have

I just just looking girl I look at things

three African violet. My issue with calling Erica a demon is that it gives us permission to forget that humans can be horrible all on their own.

Yeah, they can. Um, but I would challenge the theological basis for that and say that, you know, humans are born open to demonic influence and it's it's the power of Christ that's that's frees us from that bondage. And so the the fact that humans can be horrible all on their own is the problem is the problem. It's it's what Jesus came to save us from. Well, I'm not I guess technically would you say that atheists are under the influence or possibly under the influence of you know the devil and demons even if they don't believe in God and that whole thing is that

certainly can be. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think that's what Jesus was saying when he talked about freeing us from sin and bondage and sin and death that that that if you are not in Christ you are open to being um influenced or um or or occupied. And you know the more influenced and occupied that you are the more likely you are to then laugh at Christianity la you know view it as folly and ignorance and all that. And so you know I take a lot of pity on people when they when they laugh and oh you're so foolish you're superstitious. You believe in the big you know man in the sky. You know I look at first like that and I I I get sad. I'm like man I hate this for you. Like you could be set free from that reality but can't make them obviously. So, we have Moon Goddess. Thanks for being a member as well. Baron, what do you think of the audio analysis by Matt? I think they're talking about the Audio Freak episode I had where he uh basically the Ranger Day Bro position is one that works.

Yeah. So, you and I and or I guess maybe audio freak. Um I I don't put a lot of stock into the audio analysis like the crack thump or the crack boom analysis, whatever you want to call it. And the reason is because particularly mobile phone technology is not designed to capture that stuff in real time and preserve it with with tremendous fidelity. And and when you're talking milliseconds, you know, the difference between 812 milliseconds and 732 milliseconds is going to put somebody in a drastically different position. I look at that and think, man, the iPhone was never designed for that. That's not the purpose of an iPhone. purpose of iPhone is to roughly capture about what happened all kinds of microprocessing errors that could take place that could could put somebody potentially in a far different position. And the range day bro I if I recall that was over behind the staircase to his four o'clock. Is that right?

Yep. Mhm. Yeah. There's no there's no gunshot from there. I'm sorry. There's just none. And I saw I've seen the video from behind. There's no gunshot.

Yeah. And line of sight right from that building. He'd have to shoot through the building based on the position he said it was. But

and I think you'd have to shoot through the tent. Yeah. And in some of the on the very top roof, you'd have to be shooting through the edge of the tent for sure. Right. So I I just don't put a lot of stock into audio analysis of that stuff. I don't give a damn. Thanks for the super. Everything is a conspiracy allegedly. Ben Shapiro being a lawyer less than a year. Zionist camps before World War I. Tyler Robinson, Epstein blackmail, cointel pro, Northwood CIA, cocaine, and Tuskiggee syphilis.

I I want to do a show on the Tuskegee syphilis thing one time when I used to teach medical on ethics and I did a whole class every year um on the Tuskegee syphilis every semester rather because there's one semester class so I teach two teach it twice a year it is so shocking so unbelievably shocking what happened in Tuskegee Alabama um in fact that's one of the reasons I have Booker T Washington on my wall right here behind me um he's from Tuskegee or not from but he He basically built the Tuskegee Institute from the ground up. He's an extremely brilliant man. uh in and basically in the face of all odds accomplish something nobody believed could be possible which is plant in segregated Alabama right in the black belt plant a an institution of higher learning and start start putting out extremely highly educated African-Americans at the time of the most racist like literally the most racist time since slavery ended in the United States you know um and and what happened in that town where that great success story happened. Then the federal government comes in and runs a syphilis study that starts before penicellin is invented. And so you think, well, maybe they just wanted to know, right? I mean, penicellin wasn't invented at that time. Maybe they just wanted to know the natural course of syphilis in a in a in a human being. But then like four years into the study, penicellin's [clears throat] invented and it can cure syphilis in an hour like in in a week. And they don't give it to them. They withhold it from them and let it continue to develop for decades in these people. And that's not even the worst part. Uh I don't know they call you matter or trigger now that I know people know your name. That's not even the worst part. The worst part is they continued writing about it publicly in medical journals that the highest IQ people in America supposedly were reading and everyone was like, "Oh yeah, they're devastating an entire community with syphilis. Great. Okay, well that's how it develops over the course of decades. Isn't that interest?" Well, we don't need to know how it develops over decades. We have a cure and it's literally like 40 cents, you know, just give them the cure and they wouldn't do it. And it and I think it it so I I got an Well, I I'll do it I'll do a show on it one day.

Well, and he gave us Well, he gave us peanut butter, too, didn't he? No, that's Booker T. Wash. I mean, that's the That's uh George Washington Carver. That's different.

I got it mixed up. All right, let's see here. They can just show you the video from behind.

Yeah. EK could save on air travel and just use her broom. [laughter] To me, that's the most devastating attack on her is that she's flying around on a Gulf Stream 5.

That's so devastating. Yeah, there are so many cheaper ways to fly. Including coach. It's not like she has to be anywhere so timesensitive that she couldn't fly coach.

I mean, maybe go first class girl. I don't know. But you're not that famous. Like, no, you get on a you she could go to the local Target where I live and maybe one person in there would know who she was. If she would just dress down a little bit and not look like she does and not wear a cape and, you know, 60 bracelets on each hand and 15 rings on each finger. If she just dressed down and looked normal like a normal person, she could walk into the target here and almost no one would know who she was. It's not like getting on a plane would be dangerous. Cash money Kels, thanks for the super. On behalf of the jury, thank you for helping Baron with his camera.

No, I want to make it clear that he fixed it himself. I just gave him some links that showed him how to do it cuz I have the same camera. He's being humble. I tried to fix it myself and it still looked like crap. [laughter] William, thanks for the super. Why are you all avoiding the only angle left after ruling out the others that a 5728 was rigged on the ground under the podium with a mechanical trigger? This shot is coming in hunting and clean. So, you're talking about shooting through the chair and his legs and stuff going up into his neck possibly with a 57.

Where's the exit wound? I mean, wouldn't that round create an exit wound? 5720. Yeah. I mean, it's armor piercing even though it's a pistol round. Yeah. Right. That that is there's an exit wound coming. I mean, guys, he wasn't shot in the chest. It didn't hit a rib and slow down and then hit another rib on the backside and slow down even more. He was shot in the soft tissue allegedly on the side of his neck. If that hole was a bullet, it was a soft tissue round on the edge of his neck. You're talking 2 in, you know. Well, ladies, 6 in. That's all we're talking about. [laughter] I mean, it would just go right through it. So, I I just I just um I just discount that entirely. I I cannot I cannot believe he was shot. Uh see uh Jesus with a Yeah, I can't pronounce that. Whatever that is, but thanks for the super chat. Watching and supporting you both from Cape Town, South Africa. Lot there's a lot of people in South Africa that watch these podcasts, believe it or not.

Thanks for fighting for the truth. Your army behind you and Charlie's impact is international. SO Gaming, thanks for the super. BH Brian Harple on Paramount Tactical in prep for events. Brian Harpel asks, "Can we have amplified sound? Why would security team need to ask that?"

Yeah, I I would ask even beyond that. Why was one of the speakers not plugged in? Because in audio, I mean, in video footage and still footage, there's one of the speakers was not plugged in, and I'm very curious about that. And it had it had a device on the side of it. Ali Top Files actually who was in the comments a moment ago identified and and tracked down the device that was on the side of that speaker. Uh again doing yman's work out there. This is a decentralized investigation. These are just average citizens out there with very curious minds saying what the hell is that on the side of the speaker? Then then I send that speaker to a a friend of mine who you and I talked about before the show who's very highly qualified. And he looks he goes and I said what is this on the side? I've got a a friend of mine who says she thinks she knows what it is. and he and he confirmed exactly the make and model of what it was on the side because he knows everything. And he said, "Oh, and by the way, that speaker is not plugged in." I said, "What are you talking about?" And he goes, "Look, it's not plugged in." I was like, "I don't know what I'm looking at. It has a cord coming out of it." He's like, "That's not a plug." He's like, "That that that the the plug port is not occupied." He's like, "What what were they doing with that speaker that it wasn't plugged in?" I was like, "I don't know."

So, it had mic cables but no power. Is that what you're saying? Correct. Yeah. Interesting. And it had a device on the side of it. So there's there's there's so much that needs to be investigated, but when's where's the time? Where's the time? And these are questions that they should be answering. Ferguson, thanks for the super. Hi Baron and Trigger Smart the live cast. Steven Godwin, do you guys feel like CK Invest CK Invest is losing momentum with everything else? Oh, investigation uh going on with ICE, Iran, Greenland, etc. just seems no new leads.

Go ahead. You No, go ahead. You're sure. Yeah. Yeah, I was just going to say I mean the problem is that all these things are equally important in the world, but like you said, you don't have as much time to do everything and a lot of people will kind of find a niche and and go on that for a while. There's still a ton of people that are looking into Charlie Kirk stuff every day.

Yeah. No, there's a lot of new stuff uh coming out on the Charlie Kirk investigation. It's it's maturing and it's developing. Now, what they counted on, I believe, if I'm right about this, what they counted on was that he that people would lose interest within days. Unfortunately, it's been months for them and we're still very interested in it. And so, we're uncovering things they never antic I truly believe because I was shocked with how much coverage it got. I was shocked when I turned on ABC News the day he passed and they broke into their coverage for wallto-wall non-commercial interrupted coverage of the Charlie Kirk death. I don't think they anticipated that was going to happen. I don't think they anticipated that it would be a national news story for weeks. And I don't think they anticipated that a a rag tag group of podcasters would still be investigating this for hours a day, four plus months later, uncovering things about the way TPUSA's operated, uncovering things about the timeline, FAR registrations, 990 abuses potentially allegedly. Um and and it would be super easy to just say, "Oh yeah, I got shot in the neck by 36." Everybody go, "Okay, and move on with life." So, no, I I don't think it's losing steam at all. Victoria Marie, thanks for the super chat. Former lawyer, licensed attorney plus legal commentator slash media personality, more like.

No, I'm still licensed in three states. Um, I actually still have still have active cases um that that preede that are years old that I'm still, you know, at least tangentially involved in. So, yeah, I still very much licensed. I still have to pay the fees every year. here. I still have to do the CL credits every year that take all the time. Um, and uh, I don't I don't, you know, I made a decision years ago. I would never represent somebody I I met through media like a listener. And I and I've held to that for the most part. And of course, make sure you guys go follow Baron on all of his different social medias, especially YouTube and Rumble and also on Spotify. Stephen Dickens Dixon, thanks for the super chat. Great seeing two high IQ dudes chatting so calmly. Hi to William Coleman too.

Uh that if that's Stephen Dixon I think I know who he's talking to. Edib is Ed girl. Yeah, I don't know. Thanks for the super chat.

That's girl. She's from the Bronx. That's Edy Bronx girl, but I call her Edy Bey girl because that's Okay. That's easier. [laughter] Ity bitty girl. What a treat watching you guys midday. Their strength and numbers and these times particularly benefit from podcasters such as you, Candace, Ian, etc. Breeze music give thanks for the super. Thanks for becoming a member. Lindsay Gabriel Baron, I love your shout out to Zack Bryan last night. Check out his new song, Bad News. It hits in the gut.

Yeah, my 19-year-old turned me on to Zack Bryan several years ago, and she and I went to a Zack Bryan concert. She's been to several. Uh she and I went to a Zack Bryan concert and a lot there's something about live music that just gets me every time. I love it. Um and uh this concert we went to, it had Dominic Fe. It had Cage the Elephant, Zack Bryan. It was I was in heaven. And uh I really fell in love with Zack Bryan that weekend. It was great.

Yeah, I'm a fan as well. William, thanks for the super baron. Look up Digi Saunders if you want a good rabbit hole with regards to your strange ice. Have you heard of that before?

Nope. looking it up right now. Digi Sundis A I A I A I A I A I A I A I A I A I A I Ayanna Sandis that use pulse signals can gather. I don't know what all that is. I'll look at it. Interesting. Yep. Sunshine, thanks for the super. I live in Sweden and fire on snow. It melts and did not smell. Something is wrong with your snow. Hi, Baron.

I agree. Something's wrong with our snow. It's not melting. I'm telling you, I put it on a plate and there was still ice on the plate when I got home 2 hours later. That is not normal. And it wasn't I mean, it was just that thick. It wasn't like it I put a 12in chunk wasn't like I put a 12-in chunk in there, ladies. I'm talking like it was it was it was just, you know, you know, look like a Waffle House steak. If TPUSA is supposed to be non-political for tax reasons, why are they sending out 47 hats or bracelets instead of 47 hats?

All good questions for the uh commissioner of the IRS and the uh Treasury Secretary. Let's see. Look at this one. Happy calling straight up.

Do you know your dog or my dog barking? I hear it in my ears. That's mine. I'm guessing the kids are going to be home shortly or they're outside. Let's see.

Let your kids in, Matt. Come on. Their mom's up there. Oh, say don't make them kick the door in. Hey, Trigger Smart, thank you for all your work. I predicted when Baron started his first show on CK that he was archetypally selected to be a conduit. Then he blew up. Would Baron let me interview him on my theory?

Only if you spell my name right. There's three Rs. Yeah, there's no E or I. I can assure you. Um I don't know. I I I'm kind of choosy about who I do interviews with just because my time is so sacred. I I like you a lot and you've been so helpful to me um getting going, getting started and I like your style and I love watching your show. So I when you asked I was like of course 100%. Let's see. I don't give a dam. Thanks for another super. Couldn't he travel with the team to the next site in private and then buy a flight home closer to the break? Crazy dancer calves with high blood pressure all life.

Um, yeah. I mean, he could, but if you know, show so if that's if that was the case, if that was the plan, show me where he's ever done that before. Happy to look to it. Happy to evaluate it. We're going to have a dog here for a minute. You guys are going to have to [laughter] be be patient with this.

I can barely hear them in my ears. I'm I I don't know for those that don't know me personally, I'm pretty deaf. Um and so my hearing a hearing aids, my um in-ear monitors are cranked to the gills when I do a show and so I'm probably hearing things in the background that normal people can't hear. May not be going out to everyone else. Let's see. Emoid, thanks for the super. Harpo Flood confirmed fired or let go. Why is flood promoted? Thoughts? My thoughts are you both rock. Have you heard anything about that? about if they actually are employed or not anymore.

Uh, according to Candace, she she heard Dan Flood had actually been promoted and gotten a raise. Uh, I don't know where Brian Harpole is. Um, I don't know if he's still working there or not. I don't believe he is based on information I've gotten, but I I can't confirm that. I also saw something that said that Dan Flem might also be back in the Secret Service again.

No, I don't believe it. I don't Was he ever? That's that's what I I mean that's on his resume. I think that was pulled off from someone doing some AI searches and found his his resume says something about that. Let's see. I'm just filtering out the uh questions that aren't

No, that's fine. I got to run in uh 25 minutes. All right, cool. We'll start. Yep. We'll go a little bit faster here. Kimberly Hawkins, thanks for the super. Love to hear from Charlie's only sister. How can we make this happen? Anyone close? Brandy and Billy maybe would be great to get their opinions.

I think Brandy and Billy would be great to talk to people like um her sister. Uh don't forget Erica Kirk has an aranged older sister as well um who's probably 20 years older than she is. I think uh if I reached out to her, I don't think it would get as good a reception as if someone like Randy and Billy reached out to her. They're um Erica's stepmom, Erica's stepsister. I mean, all these people I think would be very valuable and I could see being willing to talk either off the record or on background, but you know, I doubt they would go on the record, but I think these people should be approached. I'm not I don't think I'm the one to make that approach. Tammy Stevens saying for the super aside from Colorado, which we already know, was their security preparedness done for anything beyond that stop? It's like we know they didn't have one for the next day, but have you heard anything about past that?

I have not I've not seen any travel arrangements past that. Victoria Marie, you can see Charlie's arm go up as he's being hovered by security. Someone says it was Dan lifting Charlie's arm, but in slow mode, it looks like Charlie's signaling for help. Can you confirm?

I I've seen the same video, but I I don't know what was going on back there. You know what video would be nice to see beyond just the 4 seconds Candace has is that camera, which it might be why that camera angle is not around. I mean that would settle a lot of conspiracies about what went on behind the table. William, thanks for the super. This is my last clue. The plastic was in the chair seat. You should explore Skull and Bones to Scottish right to Mormon Church to American Wireless LLC.

Okay, I appreciate the advice on what to investigate. The chair seat, I don't think that plastic was from the chair seat. I mean, the chair looked unmolested when it went down. Agreed. My new FY sister. Huge fan. Love you guys. Go Max. Kristen, thank you. Annie Randall uh email man and Egyptian plane window. Okay. Yeah, we know that one. Sent receipts on super feed harvesting data for Eric Schmidt drones. Schmidt bestcent unlocked $200 million martyr fund for merger using hey the heaven tour, I guess the new one to fire data bridge for project eagle drones. So, I yeah, I think this email went out uh maybe this morning or last night connecting all these different software entities. I guess I think that's what this is talking about. Maybe have to look at it. I haven't seen that.

I've really done nothing workrelated today. I Yeah, I kicked around my family for a little bit, sat on the couch, um texted back and forth to you about doing this show, obviously, and then went to the gym with my wife and then came home and jumped on the jumped on the live stream with you. You got to have downtime.

100%. Denny has receipts. Thanks for the super. I was not prepared for this collab. What color is Baron wearing? And are we sure we want to be inside his mind? Love you, Baron.

That's a good question. I'm not sure anybody wants to be inside my mind. I I don't know what what I would call this color. It's a It's a shade of blue of some sort. Uh I really like it. It's very comfortable. Very soft. Uh great great hoodie. Let's see. dog knows. Do you both fear being smeared by the club?

Oh, there's plenty to smear me with if they want to. Um, you know, I I've addressed, I think, publicly everything that's gone on in my past. Um, you can you could, you know, um, you could you could take the Pope and smear him for things done in his past. You know, Mother Teresa has been smeared. So, that that just means you're doing good work if the if the, uh, club is smearing you. And it comes with a territory if you're in the public eye. That's Yeah, I've been smeared a lot. Um, and I've had organized media hits smear me when I've gotten over the target. Uh, when I was uh involved in the speaker of the house investigation in Alabama and the attorney general investigation, uh, I got smeared a lot. So, people Google too deeply, they'll see, you know, news hits that try to make me look like a lunatic. And the reality is it was me doing investigative work like I'm doing now. And the people who don't like what you have to say, they they try to smear you. Sticky icky Liberty Just watch is a great site to find out where and what apps and movies are streaming on. Thanks for sharing that.

Maybe I can find out where Nefarious is streaming. Fighting me CFS. Thanks for the super after CK. Would love to see you deep dive into Fouchy. That actually would be an interesting one. The uh egregious mishandling has some curious parallels to Tuskegee or Tuskegee. Tuske I say that Tuskegee

Tuskegee. Okay. Uh so about Fouchy, uh most a lot of you guys may not know this. I worked almost exclusively in HIV law for about four years, five years. And um I've hated Fouchy longer than all of you have even known who he was. I mean, that guy is such a monster in the in the HIV world. um just in my opinion responsible for the deaths of of millions of people globally uh with with his horrific HIV the theory and thesis. So uh I'm looking at Nefarious right now. It's on Prime Video. It's on Hoopla for free. It's on Fandango Home with ads uh or Fandango Home Premium without ads. Apple TV for a small fee. It's everywhere. I mean, Pluto has it for free. Plex has it for free. Oh, no. Pluto with ads. Plex for free. So, go, you know, plenty of places to find it. Nefarious is a phenomenal movie. Let's see. George Webb thoughts. He is calling y'all out.

I I don't understand this. I don't understand George Web's calling me out. I had a friendly text exchange with him where he was trying to get some production done locally here in Middle Tennessee and asked if I would sit for an interview with somebody. All I did was ask, "What are we going to talk about? Like, what is it you need?" He he encouraged me to travel to some meeting he was having. I I can't travel right now. Like, I have a I have a family. I have a home life and and I can't travel for, you know, just

on a drop the hat with almost no notice. So, I um, I declined. And if he's calling me out, I have no idea what he's calling me out about. And and I've always liked George. That's the thing is I've never disliked him. I've always thought he does good work. I've not agreed with everything he's concluded over the years, but I've agreed with a lot of what he's concluded over the years. So I don't understand why he would call me out. It's weird.

>> Yeah. I don't understand.

>> That's same thing with Gary from Paramount. When he started started calling me out, I'm like, "What are you doing? I don't I like you. I watched your stuff." He had great shooting videos back in the day. I really enjoyed watching his interviews. I don't understand why he was why he was weird all of a sudden. Like I try to be everybody's friend. It doesn't mean you and I are going to agree on everything, but I I'll always like you, you know.

>> Well, it's very strange infighting. Almost like it's um, created from scratch.

>> Yeah. All right. I know we just have a few more minutes here, so everyone make sure you guys hit that like. Make sure you go over check out Baron on his various different social medias. And it is at real Baron podcast. Is it that everywhere or are some of them also Baron Coleman?

>> Uh, the only one that's still Real Baron podcast I think is YouTube. See, YouTube was Baron Coleman. Someone recommended I change it to Real Baron podcast to match the name of the show. So, I did. And then I went and I opened Spotify and Locals and Rumble and everything and X as Baron Coleman and and uh, actually Bar X was real baron pod. I lost Baron Coleman from X about five years ago after January 6 and I've been begging to have it back for years. They finally give it back to me. I'm now Baron Coleman on X and then all of the sudden I go to YouTube to try to get Baron Coleman again and someone grabbed it and they got like two subscribers and I'm not paying for it. Like I I would take it back but I'm not paying I'm not paying somebody for it. That'll just be Real Baron podcast at YouTube and everything else will be Baron Co. actually though I think Instagram might be real Baron Podcast.

>> All right, so we'll do our last three questions and then we'll let you get out of here and enjoy your day off. We appreciate you being here. If you guys appreciate Baron here, put Baron down in the chat. Show him some love. Sean Hedman, why was the FBI involved initially but no longer? And that could also include the uh, Lance Twig stuff, right? He had protection, now he doesn't. I think the FBI is still involved. Um, but it's not an FBI case. It was a a Utah resident who traveled entirely within Utah to allegedly plan and commit the crime and traveled back home entirely in Utah. He never crossed state borders. So, it's not a federal case. It's a state case. It's a state murder. They don't have jurisdiction, in other words. And so, um, you know, it's not it was a private citizen in who happened to be in Utah. So, it's a state case. I think the FBI was providing some support. Potentially, the FBI was providing some some misdirection and and trying to to box in the investigation and, you know, prevent certain avenues from being explored. Uh, you know, Joe Kent, for example, who I have great respect for, uh, Joe Kent allegedly was trying to look at a foreign angle and was was blocked, which is shocking to me since he's the director of the counterterrorism center. I think you would let him have a little leeway, right?

>> Blocked by Cash Patel. Yeah,

>> allegedly. Allegedly.

>> I thought it was official. I saw news reports and stuff on it, but you know,

>> I'm saying allegedly because I don't want to make an enemy of the FBI director. [laughter] Well, allegedly that's what the report says. So,

>> there's like 20 people on Earth you never want to make an enemy of, right? FBI director is high on that list. [laughter]

>> Janelle, thanks for the super chat. Have you given up on the bomb dog? If they paved over the grass, wouldn't they remove the surface? Then pave it. So, somewhere in Orum is a discarded pile of evidence. Yeah, we don't know where that that discarded pile of evidence is. And um, I've not given up on the bomb dog, but I could not find I did search for a long time. I caught a lot of people. I really I really tried to make this happen. I was going to fly out there. Uh, had the financing lined up for it. So, it wasn't a financial issue. Uh, I was willing to commit about $3,000 total to the effort for my travel, get a hotel, do it in a day, get out there. Um, two nights one day. Um, get out there, spend a whole day on the ground with the bomb dog. But I could not find a bomb dog that would fit my budget. So, I kind of scrapped the whole idea.

>> I didn't know you could rent a bomb dog. You can you can they've got sniffers, but the problem is and I don't know if they were just trying to to hose me because they didn't they didn't want to do it or they whatever, but the only bond dog I could find that was willing to do it was out of state and the travel costs were exorbitant. So,

>> all right. And this will be our last question or our last super. Aaron T party, thanks for the super chat. Great lives, dudes. Thanks for all you do. Love the sweatshirt, Baron. Sad you're not wearing your raw beef colored one [laughter] though. No, Max. And they said also who are Billy and Brandy? So, let me see if I can

>> Yeah, Billy and Brandy are a new podcast. Uh, they've started here in the last uh, last few months and they do good work. They have a very keen investigatory mind. Um, they they like to work sources. They like to do on the ground things. They haven't put out a ton of content. Um, but the stuff they put out is is pretty good and and they'll get obviously sharper with time. Everybody does who broadcasts. It's it's like driving a race car. You might have a lot of raw natural talent, but you probably, you know, uh, a little rough around the edges when you first get in the seat, but uh, as as you develop some seat time and some practice in a race car, you get in the simulator, you which I have a racing simulator at my house. It's amazing, by the way. It's, uh, I always tell people it's as much fun as you can have with clothes on. But it's um, it's it's absolutely wonderful. I I highly recommend anybody who uh, who has [clears throat] too much extra time on the hands, get a racing simulator, put it in your bedroom, and and have a lot of fun.

>> All right, everyone. We appreciate you being here. Baron, obviously, thanks for taking time out of your day off to come hang out with me and the audience, and um, obviously we'll be seeing a lot of big things from you. Did you have a final thought for everyone before we go? No, I mean I look the the audiences, my audience, your audience, um, coach's audience, Candace's audience, that's what keeps this going, you know? That's what keeps this going. These super chats that are coming in are more than just a way to be seen on the screen. They are what prevents you from being limited to CBS's take and Ben Shapiro's take. Like those people have their funding.

>> They can they they will never be off the air. But if if our audience is dry, then we're off the air. And if we go off the air, then then you're stuck with what they have to say. So, um, not only are these audiences becoming, uh, a great place to exchange ideas, get get new information, um, and just just have a community, a sense of community, which I think is in we are in dire need of an actual sense of community in the 21st century. Um, but it also allows by liking, sharing, subscribing, the occasional super chat, joining membership pages, uh, getting a little extra inside content. It allows us to continue to do this. And so I encourage people if you like Trigger Smart and you like the content he puts out, throw him a membership, throw him a super chat every now and then, you know, uh, maybe maybe skip McDonald's and throw him 10 bucks because that's what allows you to continue to stay on the air on a regular basis and um, and continue producing great content. You do great stuff.

>> All right, and with that with those wise words, we'll see you on the next one. Thanks everyone.