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So, let me try to win you over. You would say that Jesus is here to save us. Save us from what? Ourselves. We're dead people walking. Okay. So, you have to tell people about the death first, right?
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You're very good at your job. You're very good at your job. Welcome aboard. In this episode, Charlie Kirk joins George Jenko's podcast to share his powerful journey to Christ. Together, they dive into the difference between the modern gospel often preached today and the true gospel of Jesus Christ. Don't miss this thought-provoking conversation that challenges us to return to the heart of the faith.
Your parents could only walk you to Christ, but when did you accept Christ? Fifth grade at Christian Heritage Academy. I remember, um, I mean, I was kind of, I heard a hot gospel and I heard what happens if you don't give Jesus, give your life to Jesus. And it's very important that when we share the gospel, the modern gospel is God has this beautiful, amazing, wonderful life for you and if you give your life to Christ, your life will infinitely improve. That is somewhat true, but it's very misleading because you're basically trying to sell people on Christianity of a life without difficulty where the better way to teach the gospel is here's the ten commandments. How many of these are you violating? Oh, you deserve to go to hell and you probably will unless you give your life to Christ. That is the proper way to evangelize. And so I realized the stakes in fifth grade. I was like, "Oh my goodness, I'm a sinner. I'm selfish. I'm broken." And only thanks to Jesus's perfect sacrifice, coming and living a perfect life, that I get something I do not earn, but has been given to me. This free gift of eternal life.
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. As, as it says in Proverbs, that's right. But I, my fear of the Lord might be different. I kind of want to talk to you about this. I would love to debate you about this cuz I, if, if you teach me to see if I disagree, but yeah, but I would love to see this. And I know that there's like this new Christian teaching of like, you want a new job and a promotion, gave your life to Jesus. I, I get that. But I think that if your father, you love him, right? I don't think the first thing you think about is like how what he's going to do to you if you do something wrong. I think the first thing you think is how much he loves you and from that you want to do things that honor him because of that love first.
It's a great point. So let me try to win you over. You would say that Jesus is here to save us. Save us from what? Ourselves. We're dead people walking. Okay. So, you have to tell people about the death first, right? You're very good at your job. You're very good at your job, sir. Jesus, Jesus is a rescue mission. Yeah. But you must, you must teach people what you're rescuing them from. Yes, I got it. I guess. Oh, God. That's such a good point of view. It's an amazing point. And would you say that maybe it's a little mixture of both? Because we also don't want to scare people so much that they feel like we're scaring them to it's like, well, what's the only choice? Like, you want to be dead and so you have to follow Jesus, whereas we want them to follow Jesus because they love Jesus and they love everything he is about and they love everything that they do for us.
Totally agree with that. So actually, there's a Bible verse about that and he doesn't like that and so the 100%. It's a profound point, which is I cringe when I go to Whole Foods and there's some guy that says like, repent now and you know, I, I think he gives religion a bad name. Yeah. However, laying out the stakes of the one, two sequence, which is we are damned. Here's the great news, right? We are all fall short of the glory of God and there is this bridge to get to the divine. Here's the.
So, let me also reinforce this point. The last 30 years, we have the greatest test ever in what I call a cold or soft gospel. And most churches you will go to in this area or nationwide, the soft gospel will go, "Everybody, thank you so much for coming Easter Sunday. I want you to give your life to Christ because he loves you so much and he has a great life for you." And you might be dealing with addiction or depression or anxiety and you can break free of those things and you can live a beautiful and better life. Now, those things are technically true, but has that worked? Let's just talk about the numbers. Church attendance is down. Evangelism is down. We're less Christian than ever before because people look at Jesus as like Aramaic Tony Robbins. Okay. Oh my god. So funny. He can improve my life, apply some of his teachings, and instead it's a complete. So he's not there as like a Dale Carnegie self-help, right? And so the, but, but let me ask one other thing. The gospel becomes sweeter and your relationship with Christ is real and truer when you understand the stakes of the damnation that you were saved from. That's why everybody says no one's an atheist in a foxhole. Precisely. Exactly. So I think what you're saying is there's a reason why Jesus spoke more about hell than heaven. He did. No, he talked more about the end times and hell and damnation and for the judgment to come. And it can feel as a little cringe if it's done incorrectly. Yeah. If your Christianity is nothing more than an insurance plan for the afterlife, that is not a conversion. That is not legitimate Christianity. If you're like, "Hey, I went on Easter. I raised my hand. Just in case the Christian thing is right, I'm going to heaven because I did the thing and I signed the piece of paper." That is an insult to God. And your heart's not in the right place. It's not. It's you acting as if God is there like Blue Cross and Blue Shield in case you have a broken leg. 100%. And then you'll never be disciplined by God if you view it in a legalistic way because you think that it's laws and that you have to. Whereas it should be because you want to and you want to please God. That's exactly right.
Charlie Kirk came to embrace the true gospel of Jesus Christ. Understanding that only when a person acknowledges their own sin and lostness can they truly recognize the need for a savior. While widely known as an American political activist, Charlie's deepest identity was found in his faith. He was a devoted follower of Christ, unashamed of the gospel, and ready to stand courageously for truth. The Christian community deeply mourns the loss of a man whose life was marked by conviction, faith, and sacrifice. Though brief, his life was rich and deeply impactful, inspiring millions and leaving a legacy that will continue to shape generations to come. Rest in peace, dear brother.
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