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This conversation starts calm, and then everything shifts. Let's break it down on choir media.
>> Today, the only job is supposed to be to have your baby sit down. Hello.
>> Hi.
>> How are you?
>> I'm good.
>> Good. How old are you?
>> I am 23.
>> All right. So, we are off time. You guys talking about a PhD or GED? You got a question or you want to talk about the topic?
>> Um, I can talk about the topic. Um, when you mentioned like the viewpoints of men, no, when you mentioned the viewpoints of men, I completely agree with you cuz I'm like, okay, cuz you're a man, but then you go into detail with like mentioning the viewpoints of women as if like
>> such as
>> um you said like, you know, when it comes to our education, we look for lower like educated men. And I don't I don't believe that's true. Like
>> So, can a man ever can a woman speak on stuff that men do?
>> Yes.
>> Can a man speak on stuff that women do?
>> Agree.
>> Okay. That's what I see.
>> But placing opinions doesn't mean that these are factual statements like speaking and
>> excuse me. What did I say? I said this is what I see. You can't disprove. You can't. If this is what I see, it's what I see. Did I say these are facts?
>> So, if this is exactly what you're actually
>> No, no, no, ma'am. Did I say these are facts?
>> You speak of it as facts. And
>> No, no. [clears throat] When I speak of facts, I cite my sources. I'm not I'm very careful about the words that come out of my mouth, but I'm not responsible for what you may hear.
>> Okay. Can you speak about men in a fact in an opinionated way that can sound like a fact?
>> I guess you can. Yeah.
>> And can you?
>> No.
>> But are you calling it a fact?
>> No.
>> And why would [clears throat] you hold me to a different standing?
>> Um, okay. You place it on your platform as what you know can be guided. Okay. Okay. I can give you that.
>> Okay. But it's but it's not just something I said uh you're 23.
>> I'm 52 and I've seen I've been around this country and [clears throat] talked to thousands and thousands and thousands of women in my lifetime. I've had this platform and you've seen it happen for over a year and a half. At what point am I qualified [clears throat] to speak on women in a factual manner?
>> When you actually bring women inside the conversation, those are the facts.
>> Excuse me. I talked to women for the last year and a half. Monday through Friday,
>> women that are coming.
>> Excuse me. I've talked women Monday through Friday. the the the record is Do you go to college?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. My sources are cited. Thousands of hours of content everywhere around the world. Me talking to who? Women bringing them into the conversation with facts. Am I qualified to speak? Yes or no?
>> I don't still feel like you're qualified to speak. feel who is more qualified to speak
>> you. Neither of us cuz both of us are feeling
>> if I'm not qualified then who would be someone who's who's who has the facts, the data, the statistics and has a year and a half body of work which happened live stream in view of the world that's been parsed over from this side to that side. If I'm not qualified then who? I just want to know who I I'm a shepherd. I'm not qualified. Who is
>> me? A woman. So I I hear you as in you're saying that you've spoken to these women and you mentioned how your platform goes, but these women are coming to you for assistance and advice where they're not completely sure of what like area.
>> Okay, man. Hold up. Before we get down that path, um, you said you're qualified because you're a woman. What makes you qualified?
>> How I want my life to go. Like,
>> no, no, no. You said, you said my facts, data, statistics, my body of work, my conversations, everything that I'm not qualified. But just as quickly, you said you are qualified. And I said, why? Because I'm a woman. Gender. What qualifies you? Well, how like I'm looking at the dating pool as you say.
>> Is your No, no. I asked a question before you move on. I asked, "Is your gender what qualifies?"
>> Yes.
>> Why?
>> Because you're speaking about a woman. So, I a woman should speak about like what qualifies.
>> So, you as a woman can supersede the hundreds or thousands of women I talked to. one woman, excuse me, let's just look at the [clears throat] man. You're you're basically making the most ridiculous argument that me as a solitary woman can come in because I'm a woman, I am better qualified than you when I talk to women. Make it make sense. I'm I'm really trying to make it make sense because I don't if you if you if you took this onto a college campus and tried to make this a a point with a professor, you'd be laughed out of you'd be laughed out of class.
>> No, he wouldn't.
>> So, because you're a woman
>> Mhm.
>> that means you have a higher insight. Yes. Of what qualifies?
>> Based upon what?
>> On what actually qualifies me.
>> Based on what is your insight based upon?
>> My experience. My what I'm actually desiring. If you're talking about what I
>> based upon your singular anecdotal experience.
>> Okay. The experience of women. You speak.
>> No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying you I'm saying you said that I'm not qualified. I said if I'm not qualified, who is? You said me. And I said, "Why?" Because you're a woman. If I'm a social scientist of sorts and I conducted my experiments in the the test cases with the the data collated and sorted by black people [clears throat] in front of the entire world, and talked to black women real time, thousands of hours, you're saying you as a 23-y old woman, your single solitary anecdotal experience supersedes all the work out there because you're a woman. So, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a hypothetical question. Let me let me Thanos snap. I did a I did a broadcast on feminism yesterday. So, all of a sudden, I decided to become a trans woman cuz I then speak cuz now my gender matches yours. Shout out to Rhonda Mary. Good, good, good. Uno reverse, Rhonda. So, if I became a trans woman, I am now Caitlyn Jenner in this piece. Can I now speak on women with all the work that I've done?
>> That's a yes or no.
>> Yes.
>> Even though I have an X and a Y chromosome.
>> Yes.
>> You can't make this [ __ ] up. Shame, insults, guilt, and the need to be right. Just like I asked the Just like I asked the Mississippi Barrier, how do you get anywhere?
>> How do you get anywhere with a group of women who do this?
>> Yes, ABSOLUTELY. OH MY GOD.
>> ASK ME a yes or no question.
>> Ma'am, I I'm really talking ma'am. You basically come in and said as an educated woman that just because you have facts, data, statistics, observable work that could pass for research, there have been papers written about me. They're talking about this on college campuses and you said me as a single solitary woman with my lived experience short and as long as it is [clears throat] supersedes you purely based upon a gender expression. I it you're making this like a a like you asked gender and I agreed with you but you're making it sound as if like what you're like this is an opinion that that any woman cannot give like like you said the woman that you've been speaking to agreed on a certain level that I'm disagreeing on. So you're saying they supersede me and am I supposed to oversee them? No, I am the person you are courting. Like if you're this is one of them.
>> If I'm not, I'm not. But you looked at
>> No, no, no, no, ma'am. No, no. I don't look down on anything, ma'am. See, where'd you go to school for?
>> I'm premed.
>> Premed. Um, do you vote?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Polls. Polls. Polls. Did you ever take statistics?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Then you understand sample size. You're one person. I got a sample size of thousands. Please make it make sense according to logic. Make it make academic sense.
>> Okay. So academically if you're stating population is what actually because you what you're saying is population essentially like the higher percentile is that that answers for the group that is the group like you're making matches that simply are based off of percentiles.
>> I don't Okay, I don't understand what you just said. What I'm going to simplify and say I've talked to thousands of women in the real time in front of the world. That's the sample size. And I'm saying these women are
>> if you're one woman and you're saying that my you one woman over is supersedes everything that's already done that wouldn't work in an academic setting. They say your sample size is too small. It's it's it's not even it's a it's a not a multivaried it's a univaried one factor and ma'am you're trying to make something work instead of just saying something that's simple I'm wrong
>> I'm not
>> okay then make it make sense
>> sample size like
>> one woman if we had if I physically had if I physically if I could do this and I could snap my fingers and all of a sudden I could have on screen on this side you then on this side of the screen every woman I've spoken to their face on the screen thousands of women what side would be more credible one thousands women
>> but it's not just one one thousands. They all have their lived anecdotal experience just like you. But they're thousands of them. Multiple data points. Multiple data points. One data point. One. Multiple. Make it make academic sense. Don't get upset. Don't shake your head with me. Just make it make academic sense. Make it make mathematical sense
>> mathematically like
>> a point is you don't even have two points. You don't even you can't even draw a straight line. You have one point. You got thousands of points over here. So then why is it that you're making my point seem like the the the point of the day if you obviously know that this is just
>> saying that you said that I your point or facts or what what you think supersedes mine because you're a woman and again anything I've talked to thousands of women
>> and you said you can speak for men or about men And I can speak about women. I Excuse me. But but you but man,
>> you're just wrong. I make I don't just make stuff up.
>> And see, I got a couple of questions. Were you raised with your father?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Did he go to college?
>> Yes.
>> Would your father try to make the same point you're making?
>> Yes.
>> Then he's not too bright either.
>> No. He is a very educated man,
>> man. You can be educated and dumb.
>> He's not dumb.
>> 1,000. You don't need a college degree for this. Kindergarten will
>> But that's not the facts. You're You say excited. Excited. 10,000.
>> What does Okay. What What are facts? Facts are what? Let's go ahead and do this. Since she want does she want to do this facts? See, we have data. We have we have statistics
>> for facts. But you think your So your anecdotal experience is facts.
>> Is that what it is?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Then what about the thousands of women I talked to in their anecdotal experience? Those are thousands of facts.
>> And you're telling me all thousands of
>> Okay. So which which which weighs more? Your one fact or those thousands?
>> You're telling me every those thousands? Okay. Which weighs more? Which weighs more?
>> Me and
>> a thing that is proved a thing that is known or proved to be true. How many people in a statistical model in a sample size do you need to speak to before you can say something is known or true?
>> When you start speaking to those that are here to actually instructed enough to like
>> come back to you instead of
>> I talked to thousands. I've talked to thousands. How many?
>> They come to ask for your sisters. I'm not here to ask.
>> See, what I want you to guys understand is with women like her. Unless they get their opinion in, no one's mad. If you don't talk to every woman, then you able to talk to enough. You looking real silly out here right now. And I'm trying to help you. But if you going to keep doing this stuff, I I tell you right now, you can keep doing it. You lose. I'll make you famous.
>> There is nothing
>> ma'am. There's what you you come in and basically said you are qualified. All right. Who is? I'm qualified. Why? Why are you qualified? Cuz I'm a woman. What qualifies you? Cuz I'm a woman. All right.
>> What qualifies me as a trans woman? Would I be qualified? You said yes. That's why I agreed with you when you said the statement about trans what qualifies me as a woman.
>> My standpoint of my views changed just because I transitioned.
>> No, your your experience changed.
>> No, it wouldn't.
>> Your experience changed?
>> No, it wouldn't.
>> So, you're telling me the same like
>> No, ma'am. So, no. Stop. Stop. No, it wouldn't. Bruce Jenner's experience as a decathlon winning athlete did not
>> using a realized stop. Don't over when they start over talking. They know they're losing. They know they're losing when they start over talking. Bruce Jenner won the decathlon in the 70s on a box of weeds. He experienced that. True or false?
>> True.
>> Okay. The decathlon he transition to Caitlyn Jenner. Did it change his experience in the decathlon? I no.
>> Did he change the facts of the outcomes?
>> No.
>> He just changed his gender expression. So you think so my point is if I Bruce Jenner, Caitlyn Jenner, then it would change my experience. No, my mind would still be the same way it is.
>> Okay. Well, let's go back.
>> True or false?
>> Don't care. Don't care. True or false?
>> True.
>> Okay. Go ahead. So then if we go back to your one not thousands that is a 1% of a person that is in the spotlight that has the ability the money and the the people to do it for him but now woman expand and that's where you're wrong that's where you're wrong I'm not sitting here telling you I talked to thousands of women believe me I've done it in front of the world you don't have to believe me believe what you heard I'm not saying, "You know what? I conducted a poll of a thousand women and this is what they said. What I had the balls to do is do it live in front of millions of people and Monday through Friday for a year and a half and let the world decide. True or false?"
>> True. So why are you trying to discount what you've seen, what's been shown, what's been known to be true.
>> But I said to Hebrew in the morning, they were even talking about me on their podcast today talking about, well, when I first heard about him, I heard this. Now he said that, but then guess what? At the end, they were all agree. That's why more and more women started to say, when I first heard you, I didn't like it, but now the more I listen because at some point at some point, let's change this. Let's put a hard pause right there. At some point, do you feel at some point do the do the numbers become so overwhelming to where you have to change your mind?
>> No.
>> Okay. So if if you had a choice of left or right and you think left is the right, you think left is the appropriate choice, but countless people continue to go right, you're another one of these women that's not going to change their mind. You're going to still go the way you feel.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. And this is why I shared what I said. The most dangerous women in the world are women you can't deal with. Congratulations, man. I don't know what you think you won though cuz you standing on a wrong square. You're an educated woman who refuses in the light of educ in an academic setting. We put it through academic test and you refuse to back off. Either you're extremely prideful or you wasted your money in education because it doesn't appear to be working. Education is supposed to stretch your mind to new ideas, not make you more re not make you more rigid.
>> It's doing exactly what it needs to do.
>> Fail black women like you. Exactly. It's failing.
>> It's not failing. One in four of you will marry. One in four of you will marry. Uhhuh. One in four. You have the most student loan debt.
>> I don't have that.
>> Women. I didn't say you
>> and women are financially.
>> You're not even a logical conversation. You're being disagreeable because you can't win. You won't even change your mind in the fact. Okay. And if you going to school, what did you say? Go what you going to school for?
>> Pre premed. I to pediatric care.
>> Okay. So if the accepted medical science and the accepted procedures were this and all a sudden the pediatrics association came out with better data to get better outcomes for their patients
>> proven peerreviewed all this other kind of stuff shown to increase life expectancy decrease infection all the other kind of things but you like this procedure. Would you still do this procedure or would you or would you use the better the one that had better outcome, better data, better results?
>> I use both actually. That's what
>> No, no, no, no.
>> That's what we give. I get I said we can use one or the other. I'll give you both. Hypocratic o do no harm. I wonder
>> one has been sh one uh in the medical in the medical profession oxycodone and oxycottton were marketed to because they were supposed to be less addictive than bicy they were prescribed at exorbitant rates and in the Midwest we have had the the uh pill epidemic now general practitioners doctors and so forth have learned to stop prescribing that because it's more addictive if you were a doctor and you had good results about oxycottton, but you see the addiction rates. Would you continue to prescribe the oxygen or would you start prescribing other stuff that was not was that has been shown to be less addictive?
>> You'll start prescribing other stuff
>> because you'd have better data.
>> That's what a reasonable person would do. Thank you for understanding and proving that you understand when your ego isn't involved. You can't make this [ __ ] up, people. What am I wrong about?
>> Everything on I don't know. You know what you're wrong about?
>> Everything. I'm everything.
>> No. Okay. broken clock is right twice a day. Ma'am, you're going to med school. You're responsible for what comes out of your academic mouth. You said I'm wrong about everything. That was hyperbole. A broken clock is right twice a day. So, there's nothing right about what I say. There's nothing good that comes out of this world. It's it's just wrong.
>> No, it's not that's not exactly what I meant. I retract my statement.
>> Then what am I wrong about?
>> What I feel you are incorrect about is that it's simply gender. Like you asked me a you've been asking me point blank questions so that I can answer as best fits my box. But like the female experience comes with also being a woman and the woman that I can't experience that a man does. I stay reserved. And I go, okay, like I don't understand those experiences, but in my opinion, which is what me and you also agreed was a stable line. In my opinion, this is how I feel and this is how I feel. You place these boxes as if like they aren't women that have these type of mindsets that the thousands didn't agree on. The thousands that come on your live actually are asking you for assistance because they're not seeing what they fully can be capable of. Simple. What am I wrong about? I'm I'm doing my best. I'm not keeping up with you.
>> That actually empower them.
>> Excuse me. What am I wrong about? You're talking in a stream of consciousness. What am I wrong about? You make it as simple so we can all understand.
>> Okay. You are simply wrong about it being your your place to speak on a woman's opinion when she looks at a man off of just you being a man and you speaking to thousands of women that only called for an assistance when they were in stumps. Real women of this age, the modern women say,
>> stop. I've already asked you at the beginning, can men speak on women?
>> I said opinions. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, I covered that. See, women like yourself feel like that you shouldn't really say anything cuz you're not a woman. I covered that 15 minutes ago. For everybody who don't remember, I covered that at the beginning because I knew it was going to be. See, that's after all those thousands of interviews I've done. I know the tactics. A man has no place to really speak because he's not a woman. He doesn't. But yet if I transition then all of a sudden I could see because now I have a new gender expression. Man, it makes no sense. We're going circular. But I'm going ask you one simple question. One really simple question. Okay. When women who think like you, how are black men supposed to work and build?
>> When women think like me, how is a black man supposed to work and
>> Yeah. How we supposed to come together to make families
>> by you?
>> Mhm.
>> By you actually looking at me as a partner as someone who
>> not my partner. Wife is a role. Partner is a business
>> and both are intertwined. You're
>> intertwined. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. If you and I were married and I said, "We're going to do this with Kevin Jr." and you said, "I think we should do that with Kevin Jr." And we sat down. You believe this in your bones and I believe this in my bones. They're diametrically opposed. Which way do we go?
>> The way that one party feels is not like serious. There has to be a choice made and they're diametrically opposed. You as a mother believe one thing. I as a father believe another thing. We are out of negotiation. A choice must be made
>> and one person needs to make that choice to step down and to step up.
>> Which way? We can't
>> neither. I don't think neither.
>> No, I'm asking you. Come on. Come on, Doc. Come on, doc. Life or death? A a choice has to be made. Which way? You're the mother. I'm the father. I say right, you say left. We can't be in the middle. A choice has to be made. Which way?
>> The way that is best. Like we are both
>> way. Both.
>> You think your way is best? I think my way is best. We have to do one or the other.
>> Exactly. So either you back down or I back down.
>> Which way?
>> Either you back down or I back down.
>> No. No. I'm asking you. If you're MY WIFE, YOU'RE THE WOMAN. You're the wife. Which way? Your husband feels one way. You believe another way. It's your child. It's his child. But you're And it can't be both. Which way? mine.
>> Thank you. That's why we can't get anywhere with women like her.
>> No, that's not
>> No, no, no. That's why you get nowhere with
>> Do you want a mother or do you want a wife?
>> No, man. What is that?
>> Your way. You say go your way. That means at the end
>> I am a mother. Do you want a mother?
>> These are your children that you care about.
>> Don't [ __ ] talk me. I've already said don't do that. You're a mother. See, that's why I said we have a child. I'm the father. You can't pull DNA biological rank on the biological father.
>> That's what you said. I'm a mother first. That's why I said at the beginning of this [ __ ] it's about female superiority. This woman said, "This is my child. You might as well just start pulling rank. Put your dick up. You're a woman. Why would I make a choice for my child? Your child. Our child is going to harm our kids." But because women know better, because you were the mother, I'm supposed to back down. Get the [ __ ] out of here. This is insane. Yeah, I'm not supporting what she's saying, but some of this commentary is over the top. Calling her brain damaged, delusional, and annoying. That's just bitterness disguised as analysis. You don't need to insult someone to recognize red flags. But let's get real. The points about pride and stubbornness fair. Some young women at 23 do operate from I have to be right energy and that can make interactions frustrating, especially when men are trying to be clear and direct. Asking yes/no questions and getting a whole monologue instead, that's a red flag in terms of communication. A man's patience only goes so far when there's a refusal to listen or acknowledge a straightforward point. The bigger issue here is discernment. If a woman refuses to admit when she's wrong or constantly needs to be right, that shows emotional immaturity. And yes, combined with chasing an idealized partner or independence without real life experience, that can create future friction. Does social media influence the whine and likes culture? It amplifies entitlement and delays self-awareness. But here's the takeaway. You don't need to insult her to protect yourself. You just recognize the pattern. Prideful, stubborn, inexperienced. That tells you where to set boundaries. If she's not ready for partnership, don't engage on a serious level. Keep your standards firm. Be selective and avoid wasting time on someone who won't meet you in reality. The maturity gap is real and the red flags are clear. You just operate accordingly. No need for over-the-top commentary.