"You Can't Read The Bible!" - Orthodox Caller Confronts Me

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Sorry, a comment from Cozy saying, "Quickly has become my favorite channel." Hey, good to have you here, Cozy. Oh, glory to God. Yeah, feel free to send the channel on to your friends. They can check out the content as well. But super chat to start us off. Thank you so much, Blackout, for sending in a generous super chat. Blackout said this, uh, before I was saved, I didn't like going to church. Didn't like singing, preaching, fellowship. Now I'm saved. I love church. That's so good. The singing, preaching, but I still don't like the fellowship. Is it okay if I leave right after the service? Hey, I'm encouraged that you are now enjoying the singing, the worship of the Lord. It's brilliant, right? If we have a heart transformed by God's grace, we know how much love we've been shown from Christ. We just want to spend time praising him. We just love to spend time praising the Lord. So, that's great. And you love the preaching and uh you're just not you're not keen yet. You're not eager on the fellowship side of things at church. Okay. I would recommend not leaving straight away after the service if possible. Instead, think of it like this in Hebrews 10:25 when it talks about not neglecting to meet together, which is really the only command that we have in scripture about we should gather gather regularly together. All right, this one here, not neglecting to meet together. Have a look at the reason why. As is the habit of some, but encouraging one another and all the more as you see the day drawing near. So it's not just that meeting together is going to help you to like hear the God's word being preached, sing songs. The key reason is actually the encouragement which means I think that would include in that is the fellowship. So don't think of it as like, okay, I feel, you know, you may feel like fellowship, you know, talking to people is awkward, okay, that's fine, but see it as a service. Church is not just about what you can get from it, but it's what you how can you help your fellow congregation members? What can you what word of encouragement can you give to them after the service? What exhortation, you know, asking how how you're going with your Bible reading? I love it. I love it how some of you guys in the chat do that with one another. Hey, how what you've been reading the Bible recently? That is brilliant. You know why? Well, because then you know people in reading the Bible, they can be rejoicing in that and just telling others what they've learned. But also, you know, you know what other reason? One other reason is that it could actually encourage others to get into their Bible reading. If like, oh yeah, I haven't been doing that recently. Well, let's get into it. And that exhortation, encouragement there. So, my encouragement is, yeah, don't leave straight after the church service if possible. Um, I would recommend if you're someone who's maybe like, yeah, pretty new to a church or maybe you just don't know this person, say, "Hey, hi, I'm new." It's a great conversation starter with anyone. Or even if you're not like particularly new at your church, you could just say, "Hey, I'm not sure if we've met before. My name's this." And you're into a conversation just like that. You've got a go-to conversation starter uh with meeting anyone new at church. And even if it's someone regular that you've spoken to before, say, "Oh, hey, great to see you again. What do you think of the service? What do you think of the sermon?" Like if you're doing it afterwards. Um, and that's just a great way to get the conversation started. And I would encourage fellowship not to just be talking about the secular activities of your week. Sure. And there can be conversation about that. Nothing wrong with that. But let your fellowship with fellow Christians also be about spiritual things, things that how you saw God work through your week. Something in the Bible that might have encouraged you because that will really edify the person that you're speaking with compared to, oh, what was the weather like this week? Sure, that can be interesting for a little bit, but doesn't really have much spiritual benefit.

All right, next question. Word salads asked, what do you think of first Corinthians 8 verse 6? Let's bring it up. Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. So this is actually really showing the equality of Jesus and the Father. So when it says there is one God, we agree. We're not polytheists. We don't believe in five gods as Christians. We believe in one God. But notice this phrase here. From whom are all things and for whom we exist, and then how it relates to Christ as through whom are all things and through whom we exist. It's basically showing the equality here of Jesus and the Father because elsewhere, you know, like it says for whom we exist. Some people say, "Oh, we're not made for Jesus, we're made for the Father." Go compare this to Colossians 1:16. For by him, talking about Christ here, for by him, by Christ, all things were created in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities, all things were created through him and for him. So everything's made for Jesus. And yet everything is made for the Father. It says in in that passage of 1 Corinthians 8:6, oh, it's like the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are the one God. Exactly. And even this when it says there's one God and one Lord, what was the title? What was the what would they call God? Even in the Old Testament, you know, when you see the word Yahweh, what the Jewish people, they would call him Lord. And so we agree that there's one Lord, and that's Jesus. And if you're Lord, you're God. So yeah, I think that's a really clear key passage there. Thank you for that one.

All right, next one. This one from life student. What does it mean when it says the angels in 1 Corinthians 11:10? Okay, so it says this in regards to instructions about like head coverings, which is a cultural practice in the first century. How a married woman would show that she's married is that she'd put a head covering on. And if a married woman didn't in that culture, it's she's like pretending as if she's single even though she's actually married. And that's not good. That would dishonor her head. Her head being her husband. Um, and so Paul's saying here that is why a wife, notice a wife, a married woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head because of the angels. Now, what does it mean because of the angels? I just simply mean, I think it means that the angels respect the good angels, that is, respect their roles. They respect the order of creation that they have. They have they're designed as messengers for God. They're appointed to serve us. So the angels are respecting their roles. There's an archangel Michael. We don't know if there's multiple arch. We at least know Michael's an archangel. The rest of the angels, it doesn't seem to indicate that they're archangels. There may be just regular angels. And so they seem to recognize authority structures and submit rightly to God. In fact, it says that their face always looks at their father in heaven. I love that verse, by the way. Let me show you what I was thinking of. Uh, so this is in uh Matthew 18:10. See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my father who is in heaven. That's amazing. The angels are just continually looking at the father. They're continually looking at God. They're respecting the roles and the authority that God has and just other authorities that God has appointed. They're they're seeing that. So, which is beautiful. And so that's what I think he's talking about, that they should women in this culture should do the culturally appropriate thing and not pretend as if they're single when they're actually married because the angels do what's right in this regard. They don't usurp authority that God has appointed. That would be, I think, how I explain it.

All right, next one. Oh, super chat came in from Anil. I want to say a big thank you to you and all you guys for your continued support, your prayers, uh, and yeah, your super chats. Thank you so much.

To reconcile to himself all things whether on earth or in heaven by the blood of his cross.

Anil says, "God bless you guys." says, "Brother Ryan, can you explain Galatians 5:17 to keep you from doing the things you want to do? Does this apply to personal goals or unable to carry out the fruits of the spirit? Thank you for all your help." All right, let's bring it up. This is about the the passions of our flesh compared to the desires of the spirit, and they're at war with each other. Let's go verse 16 just for context. It says, "But I say, walk by the spirit." Now, that just simply means walk in accordance with how the Holy Spirit would want you to walk. So live in accord to scripture, basically, and you'll not gratify the desires of the flesh. So your body, it's talking about your flesh, your body has all kinds of desires, wayward desires sometimes, sometimes good desires, but they can also have wayward desires. Desires that if you don't keep check in check, it's just going to like lead to terrible behavior. So walk by the spirit. Don't gratify these sinful desires that your flesh may have. For the desires of the flesh are against the spirit, against what the Holy Spirit would want. And the desires of the Holy Spirit are against the flesh. For these are opposed to each other, at war with each other to keep you from doing the things you want to do. So I think this would be the flesh is trying to get you to follow its desires that are wayward, that are not helpful, that are sinful even. And if it can do that, it's going to prevent you from doing what you truly want to do, which as a saved believer is to just walk in holiness, be obedient. Remember how Paul mentions this in Romans 7 when he says, "For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing." Notice he says, "The good I want." As Christians, we want to do good. Now, when Muslims object saying, "Oh, if you believe that you're saved by Jesus, then you could just go and do whatever you want." Hold up. What do I want now? My desires have changed. I want to do good as a Christian and I don't want to do evil. Right? The evil I do not want is what I keep on doing. So, we as Christians are sadly still sin. We're not perfect this side of heaven. But notice how our desires have changed. What we want is now different from when we were an unregenerate person. And so the desires of the flesh are trying to keep you from doing the things that you want to do. Things that are good desires that the Lord has placed in your heart. So let's keep our body in check. All right. Keep our body in check. Paul says, "I discipline my body." 1 Corinthians 9, "Keep it under control lest after preaching to others, I myself would be disqualified." Not saying disqualified for salvation. He's not talking about that. Disqualified in terms of effectiveness in ministry if he wasn't keeping his behavior in check. Uh, you know, and we've seen many pastors fall over the past number of years, haven't we? It's been tragic to see that. Um, yeah, another just over the past couple days there's another pastor that came out, Sam Albury, um, he had news reported that he had been involved in some bad behavior as well. And so what happens is that it crushes their ministry effectiveness. It would mean that a lot of these people wouldn't be actually qualified to be a pastor anymore if they're no longer above reproach. Above reproach is one of the criteria that elders need to satisfy in order to be an elder of a local church. And so Christians, not just in ministry, but even just Christians generally, even those who aren't doing any sort of formal ministry, we should keep our body in check. Romans 13 tells us this. Put on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the flesh to gratify its desires. You know what it's talking about when you make provision for the flesh? When you're like, "Hey, I'll just, you know, I won't go over the line. I'll just get really close to the line." And then guess what? You fall over the line, right? It's it's like on the edge of a balcony in a high-rise building. You got, you know, they got the railings there so you don't fall off. And you know, and and I've known some people who are just like reckless with that. They were like, "I'm going to sit on the railing on this 30, 20 stories up. I'm going to sit on the railing." That's foolish. Oh, I'm going to stand on the outside of the railing. That's foolish, right? And people do that with sin, right? God's got the railing there and people like, "I'm just going to sit on the fence or I'm just going to go a little bit very close to the line." And then what happens? Their flesh has all these desires and then they fall. What does Proverbs say? He talks about a foolish young man who walks down the street of where that wayward woman is who's trying to seduce him. And he sees it's like a a deer that's going to get caught in a trap. And so he says, "Don't even go venture down her street." So Christian, in your life, cut things out of your life that are tempting you to sin. It's going to prevent you from doing the things that you truly want to do.

All right. Now, Jamie's got a question. Says, "Wouldn't it make more sense that the spirit is a sign and seal of the new covenant? Many say it's baptism, but the spirit testifies that we are God's children. Sign and we are sealed by him. Seal. Yeah, I think yeah, people make the point that like in the Old Testament, the visible sign of the covenant was circumcision, but in the New Covenant, the visible sign is baptism. I I actually think it makes more sense that it's the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the sign and the seal of the new covenant. That's I think very reasonable. You could say uh there could be both in a way. You can have the internal sign and seal, which is the spirit. Like obviously the Bible says you're sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, but there's still this public declaration sign. Remember how what that's what circumcision was for Abraham? Circumcision didn't justify anyone. Didn't make anyone right before God. But why did Abraham get circumcised all the way back in Genesis 17? Well, Paul tells us in Romans 4 about this. He makes a very clear point that he got justified before getting circumcised. So he's not justified on the basis of any sort of obedience to God. But then he says this, ready? He received the sign. Notice the sign of circumcision as a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. The purpose was to make him the father of all who believe without being circumcised, so that righteousness will be counted to them as well. Yeah. So circumcision was that outward sign of a righteousness that he had already by faith. And so you can say you can see baptism as being like that in scripture as an outward visible sign, which is why it shouldn't be applied to infants. I think that's a clear sign it shouldn't be applied to infants. Now the difference is now people say, "Hold up, but circumcision was good point, but the reason why the people of Israel received the sign of circumcision was not for the same reason that Abraham did. Abraham received it as a sign of this righteousness that he had by faith. But then circumcision changed purpose when it was given in say like the Mosaic law and the purpose of it was to show who was a Jew. As long as you are a descendant of Abraham physically, you were considered part of that, you know, Israelite community. So that's why it's different to why Abraham got circumcision. Um, but for us, baptism, like the Bible doesn't give us full details of what uh like goes in much detail about baptism. It just talks about people getting baptized. It doesn't give us a huge theology of it. You only find like one general command for baptism and that's like in Matthew 28:19 and 20. Go baptize them. In fact, that's not even a command to the Christian to get baptized. That's a command to the evangelizer to baptize people, which is quite interesting. Jesus himself never gave a command for someone to get baptized. He just gave a command for Christians to go baptize other people. Now I think elsewhere like book of Acts we do see a command from like um Ananias for example to Paul to rise and get baptized, things like that. So yes, Christians should get water baptized. I agree with it. But the Bible doesn't give us full details about everything about it. We just know that it doesn't make us right before God. We're justified by faith. And so just how it's used in scripture, it seems to be more of a visible outward sign to others. It's an act of humility. It really is. You have to get wet, right? That that's pretty humbling. I think it's a pretty good picture of someone dying to their old self. That symbolized by going in the water and then something and then the person coming out of the water symbolizes them coming back to life like or having a new life in Christ. Not that it happens when you're getting baptized. It doesn't happen during that time. It's already happened in that person's life if they're a believer. It's just symbolizing what's already happened.

All right. Uh, next. Yeah, appreciate that, Jamie. Next one from Joseph. Thank you, Joseph, for your super chat. Now, to him, according to the revelation of the mystery.

Yeah. Yeah, big way actually said in the early church and this is actually in some Orthodox churches still today, they they they require you to have you be completely naked to get baptized, which is an unbiblical tradition. Notice that traditions that arise, right? The Bible doesn't ever tell us this to go, you know, you have to be naked to to get baptized, but that's a tradition that did arise in the like after the apostolic era. And you've got even Orthodox churches continuing that practice to this day. They require you to have nothing on generally to um get baptized, which is strange, unbiblical tradition. Traditions aren't bad in themselves, but to require traditions upon other people or if the traditions just like where you getting that from like Yeah. Um sometimes, yeah, those sort of traditions can be really unhelpful. And if you if they think baptism is a requirement for salvation, that goes into heresy then. It's good to get baptized, just don't make it a requirement. But Joseph, thank you for your super chat. He says, "Hi, Ryan. Do you keep a personal Bible to revisit your insights on verses? I'm getting an ESV journal Bible to note what I've learned from your streams like Mark 16:16. I'm going to use it for my life." Praise the Lord. Yeah, I think um those Bibles can be helpful. I haven't personally got into the habit of writing notes in the inside of my Bible. That's a perfectly fine thing if you want to. So, some Bibles have a whole lot of space. You can just write a whole lot of notes there to kind of help you to interpret it. That's fine. People can have pre personal preferences with that. Um, yeah. I've I use a study Bible that I'm planning on using for the rest of my life. The reason is because that's the Bible. It's a it's a pretty decent study Bible. That's one thing. But secondly, it's it's it's what I've used for me my Bible memorization. And so therefore, I every time I read my Bible, I use this physical Bible. Um, and it just helps me to recall where things are. Ah, I know it's on the right hand side of the page, halfway down. That's really helpful. I like to visualize in my head where verses are on the page, and it helps with my recall. That's why I keep the same Bible. I made sure I bought like five of them. I had five or six Bibles of the same. Like this was like 10 years ago or more. I can't remember when. It's a long time ago. I bought 10 of maybe about six of these Bibles so that when they break I can just open up another one. And so I can also have them different places around the house as well. Uh, yeah.

Okay, next one. Josh says, "I have a buddy that's into lifting weights. I had told him, 'No Bible, no barbells.' He absolutely loved it and it's helped him to get the word in before the world. Amen, Ryan. That's a big thanks." Hey, that's awesome, Josh. I love how you've got all the how you think of these encouraging kind of catchphrases. I love it. Uh, that helps people. The way of encouraging one another to love and to good deeds. Yeah.

All right. Uh, super chat from Angel. Thank you very much, Angel.

Oh, magnify the Lord with me and let us exalt his name together.

Hi Ryan. A few days ago, someone told me baptism is required for salvation because scripture says so. And the thief doesn't count since it happened before Acts and Paul's letters. But now we must do it. Any thoughts? Yeah, their argument is not very good at all. Not very good at all. So they're basically saying that the teaching of Jesus is not relevant because it's before Acts and Paul, according to their logic, because but then usually people who say baptism is a requirement for salvation go to John 3:5, which is in the teaching which is during the time of Jesus. So you can't have your cake and eat it too. You can't say, "Well, John 3:5 and ignore the thief on the cross." Like, that's clearly a double standard. John 3:5 is not about baptism anyway, by the way. We've made videos about that, very clearly explaining that. Um, but how many exceptions do you need before it becomes the rule? I don't think the thief on the cross is an exception. I think he is just the model of how anyone and everyone gets saved. He didn't have to do good works. He wasn't like, "Clean your life up, be good enough now. I'll save you. Get bathed in baptism." No, it's Jesus says, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you'll be saved." Right? John 6:47. Truly, truly I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. So this person you're talking to is going to say, "What? This is not relevant because it's before Acts." So you're saying that salvation was true? It was only by faith during the time of Jesus. But as soon as Paul came along, it's no longer by faith in Jesus. Hold up. What did Paul teach in Acts about how to be saved? Sir, what must I do to be saved? Acts 16:30. They said, this is Paul and Paul and Silas answering the question, believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved. Right there. So Jesus and Paul preached the same message. Now, let's see if anyone else in Acts preached the same message. Acts 10:43, Peter, this is Peter preaching his sermon. To him, all the prophets bear witness that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name. So, according to Peter, believing is sufficient to receive forgiveness of sins through Christ's name. Peter doesn't add baptism here as a requirement. In fact, go and look at Cornelius, which is the next couple verses. Peter's preaching to him. The Holy Spirit fell on all who heard the word. And what happened? They were amazed because the gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out even on the Gentiles. For they were hearing them speaking in tongues and extolling God. Then Peter declared, "Can anyone withhold water for baptizing these people who have past tense past tense here who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have." So if you've received the spirit, this is an indication of salvation post Pentecost. And that's what we see even Peter using in the next chapter to show that they're part of the church. They receive the same spirit. Who was I that I could say they're not part of the church? Let me show you. This is Acts chapter 11. Says here uh okay, basically so it's talking about how Ananias received a vision about sending for Peter and the angel says like send to Joppa and bring Simon who's called Peter he will declare to you a message by which you'll be saved you and your household, right? So it's a message, not a getting bathed with baptism, a message. The gospel message is the power of God for salvation. As I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell on all of them just as on us at the beginning. And I remember the word of the Lord how he said, "John baptized with water, but you'll be baptized with the Holy Spirit." If then God gave the same spirit to them as he gave to us when we believed in the Lord Jesus, who was I that I could stand in God's way? See that the fact that they received the same spirit that the apostles received is evidence that Cornelius was saved and that was prior to baptism. This destroys baptism and regeneration. This destroys the idea that baptism is a requirement for salvation. The fact that we have such a clear example here in Acts chapter 10 of someone getting saved without baptism. Very, very clear. It's what Peter preached. It's what Paul preached. It's what Jesus preached. It's what John preaches. Remember John wrote the Gospel of John for what purpose? At the end of John 20 gives us the purpose of writing his gospel. Let me show you. Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples which are not written in this book. But these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God. And that by believing you may have life in his name. Not by getting baptized you may have life in his name, but by believing. Believing is sufficient. And by the way, this shows that there's no distinction in terms of a message of salvation between Paul, Paul's era, and Jesus' era. It's the same message of salvation because John's writing this post Christ's death and resurrection and ascension. And he's saying, I'm writing these things and the teaching of Jesus and everything like that so that you can believe to have eternal life, which is what Jesus taught, which happens to also be what the apostles taught as well. So hopefully that's helpful. Um, scripture is abundantly clear on this topic.

All right, let's do the next question. Oh, this is an interesting one from Mike. Should we reconcile with others who didn't ask for forgiveness? That's a good question. Yeah, I would say yes, we should forgive them. Now, sometimes you have people who have this mindset. I only need to forgive someone if they ask me for forgiveness. Otherwise, I can just hold this big grudge against them and just like be mean towards them. Whatever it is, you know, that's not helpful. The Bible calls you to forgive even if the person has not asked you for forgiveness. Colossians 3:13, bearing with one another, and if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other. As the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. See that? It's not only if they ask forgiveness do I have to forgive them. You forgive them because you've been forgiven much. You go forgive them. Now, you said reconciliation. So it depends what you mean. Depends what you mean. Um, I think if okay, let's see, let's bring some scenarios. If it's husband and wife, they sinned against each other or one sinned against the other, whatever it is, forgive. They should always forgive each other and they should seek reconciliation if possible. Sure, there may be a time for separation that may be needed, but the aim is always reconciliation. Don't be like, "No, they did that against me. I'm going to hold as a grudge against them forever." Imagine if God did that with you. You wouldn't like that. And God commands you to forgive. Even if they've done great sins against you, learn to forgive. Because what they've done against you is small compared to what you did against God and what I did against God. We committed cosmic treason. That person hasn't committed cosmic treason against us. So we can forgive. Aim for reconciliation. If you're holding a grudge against family members, your parents, your siblings, your learn to forgive. Now, obviously, I'm not saying there can be times where why authorities need to get involved. There's crimes that are being committed. Yes, there's there's that's what they're there for, but you holding a personal grudge against this person is not going to get you anywhere good. It's not what God would want. And seek reconciliation with them if it's possible. That would be my encouragement. Um, I would go to Romans chapter 12 says, "Live in harmony with one another. Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight. Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. And if possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all as far as it depends on you." Obviously, some people are just going to hold grudges against you and you just can't get restored because they just got a grudge against you. You've tried to reconcile, but they're just not willing to. Okay, pray for them. Hopefully, time goes on, you can be reconciled if possible. But if it depends on you, let you not, you shouldn't be the one who's like, "I'm going to hold a grudge against this person for the rest of my life." Let's not do that, Christian. As far as it depends on us, live peaceably with all and do good to those who abuse us. That's that's what our Lord said. Luke 6:28, "Bless those who curse you. Pray for those who abuse you. To the one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also. And from one who takes away your cloak, do not withhold your tunic either. Give to everyone who begs from you. And from one who takes away your goods, do not demand them back." How contrary is this to like life, worldly living? Worldly living, it's all about my rights. If they take away my my goods, I sue them. You know what Christ says? They take away your goods. Don't even ask them back. Wow. If he even goes on to say, if someone's to sue you to take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. Oh, you want this? Let me give you this as well. Oh, don't forget that. I'm going to bring this and give to you this as well. What an amazing and amazingly hard but profound teaching we have here from Christ because it's really teaching us to have such a loose grasp on our earthly possessions here. And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. Life will tell us, culture, media will tell us, hoard, keep your possessions, protect them, do everything because your life exists in your abundance of your possessions. Life exists in your car and your house and all the things that you have, your achievements, your qualifications, your career. Christ says, "No, your life doesn't consist in any of those things." You know where your life consists of as a Christian? Being in Christ. Our job is to throw up treasures there, not here. What are you doing with that stuff here? You want to store up something that's going to get moldy and you leave it behind when you're dead and it's not going to be worth any worth anyone once Christ returns? Or would you prefer it not to go moldy, not to get moths in it and rust? Well, then simply send it on forward. Send up to heaven. And you send it to heaven by being generous with what you have. Challenging teaching. We need this. We need this challenge because we're getting bombarded by the world with secular messages and scripture just helps us keep on the right course.

All right, next question from Ross. Thank you Ross for your super chat. Appreciate your generosity.

As far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us.

Russ says, "Eating powerfully symbolizes the internalization of divine truth and transformative faith. Ezekiel's command to consume the scroll. Eat this scroll in Ezekiel 3:1:3. Is this what Christ meant in John 6?" Okay, appreciate your question. That's how I remember this 48 chapters in the book of Ezekiel. You know how I remember it? For he ate a scroll. 48. For he ate a scroll. Ezekiel was told by God, "Go eat this scroll." Which is also someone else in the Bible had to eat a scroll. Does anyone remember any who else in the Bible had to eat a scroll and it tasted like honey in his mouth but bitter in his stomach? Anyone remember that one? It was the Apostle John in the book of Revelation. Big getting that first, Jesse. Yeah, you guys are correct. Well done. Yeah, remember that he had to eat a scroll. Both Ezekiel and John. And I think what that symbolizes is was about judgment. God's word, God's judgment is sweet in a sense of it's God's word. It's precious, but also bitter in the stomach in a sense of it is about judgment. It is about, you know, uh people's destruction and things like that. So it can be bitter in that sense too. So is that what John? So your question is, is that what Christ meant in John 6? Yeah. I think Jesus gives a lot of different metaphors, figures of speech all throughout his ministry. And I think he's using this very powerful one because the topic of conversation is bread. Why is that the topic of conversation? Because he just fed 5,000 people. Those guys followed him over saying, "We want more bread. Give us more. You know, Moses gave us bread. Can you give us some more bread?" And so the whole topic is about bread, about eating. And so he's like, "All right, I'm going to teach you some spiritual truths based on your focus, which is bread and eating." And he makes clear, you know, if you eat, you come to him, you'll never hunger. You believe in him, you'll never thirst. John 6:35. And then he says, "You got to eat my flesh and drink my blood." He's not talking about the Eucharist, not even in Jerusalem at this time. He's clearly talking about believing in him, coming to him in faith is how you eat him, how you consume him. Not in a physical literal sense, but it's part of that metaphor. So, I'm not sure if I necessarily connect with Ezekiel. I haven't thought of that connection myself, but I'd probably want to do a bit more thinking and study about that to see if there is a connection. I just think he's using what they're focusing on to teach spiritual truths, which they weren't really willing to hear. And so they unfortunately left him.

All right, Noel, appreciate your super chat.

Jesus, I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live.

Do you agree with dispensationalism as long as it's faith only for salvation, but it results in different works/ordinances? Uh, I don't know. I don't hold to dispensationalism myself. Now, usually there can be different definitions of how people define it, but how I find is the most common definition as far as I've come across is this idea that the that all of time history can be broken up into seven dispensations or time periods. And they basically say God acts differently or God interacts with us differently during those time periods, including how people are saved. That's usually the most common view of of dispensationalism. And so they'll say that during the Old Testament era, salvation was by works, by lawkeeping. During Christ's time was by faith. During our time, it's by faith. But then during the uh say tribulation time, they think it's going to happen in the future. They're going to be saved again by works and avoiding the mark of the beast. And so, no, I wouldn't agree with dispensationalism then because I think salvation's always been the same way by grace through faith. I don't think the Bible breaks up time history into seven dispensations. I believe there's covenants absolutely that God God has the old covenant. There's a new covenant which is a better covenant that we're part of now. Things like that. But I don't think um I would break it up into seven dispensations. Uh, Shamaga, third judge in the book of Judges. Good to have you here. Uh, we're doing Judges at the moment of our Discord Bible study and we got to read that chapter. Actually, there's only one verse on this judge. Shamgar killed 600 Philistines with an ox goad, son of Anath. Uh, but yeah, God saved God used him to save Israel from the Philistines. Uh, but your question was in Luke 24:44, Matthew 5:17, John 1, 1 John, sorry, 1 John 4:8, and Romans 13:8, is there any connection? Any connection between those four or five verses you've got there. Okay, let's have a look at some of these verses that you're bringing up. So, you've got Luke 24:44. Jesus said to them, "These are my words that I have spoken to you while I was still with you that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled." So yeah, Christ is the fulfillment of all those different basically the entire Old Testament scriptures is what he's saying there. Matthew 5:17, "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them." I think in this sense it's to perfectly obey it. So I think what he's saying in the last verse is that Psalm 22 and other passages talk about the Messiah coming and what he would do and how Christ fulfills those prophecies. I think this is talking about how he perfectly obeys the Old Testament law and thus doesn't abolish it, but fulfills it. And something if something's fulfilled or completed, it's done with. You don't have to go back to it. It's all completed. You know, it's like if you were playing a video game or something like that and you completed the level, if you complete the level of the video game, you know, they open up access to the next level. Usually, that's what happens. Well, then do you need to go and repeat the same level over and then over and then over again? No. You've already got access to the next level. So, you just may as well go to the next level. There's no point just replaying the same thing. And I think that's the point is that Jesus fulfills the Old Testament law on our behalf. So, therefore, we don't have to go back to it to obey it. We're not under it. We're under a better covenant that he's establishing Christ's blood. And that's what Hebrews chapter 8 talks about there. Uh, the next passage you brought up was 1 John 4:8. "Anyone who does not love does not know God because God is love." Yeah. So love will be a result because we have had our heart transformed by God's grace. It makes us love God. But then also love our neighbor as well as well. And then Romans 13:8, "Owe no one anything except to love each other. For one who loves another has fulfilled the law. The law does find its fulfillment in those two summary commandments. Love God with whole heart, soul, mind, and strength and love your neighbor as yourself." Which is why, you know, people say, "Look, we're not saved by Old Testament law. We're saved by loving God and loving neighbor. That's the law. That's like literally the law." So, no, we're not saved by loving God and loving neighbor. That's a fruit. That's a result. We do love God and love neighbor, but we're not saved by that because that's the same as thinking that you're saved by the Mosaic law. Um, yeah. So, appreciate there's some some connections there also, but they're also talking about those passages sometime somewhat talking about different things as well.

All right, next one from Jennifer. Appreciate your kindness there, Jenner.

Jesus, I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Jennifer says, "Hey, Ryan, how do you explain second Timothy 4:10? A lot of people use this to say you can fall from grace. I personally don't agree with this claim, but I just don't know how to counter it." All right, let's bring up the passage. For Demas, in love with this present world, has deserted me and gone to Thessalonica. Crescens has gone to Galatia, Titus to Dalmatia. Okay, so this passage does not speak about I think we had a we had a viewer chat about a week ago and a person brought up this passage, didn't they? Do you guys remember that chat? Someone brought up this passage to try and prove see you can lose your salvation. And I made two points. First point I made is we actually don't know if Paul is 100% saying that he thinks that Demas is not saved. I think that's a reasonable interpretation, but not necessarily. It could just be saying, "Look, he's abandoned me." Just like John Mark did. John Mark abandoned Paul halfway through a missionary journey and went to Jerusalem. And Paul's like, "Next time you're not coming with us, John Mark." Right? And and rightly so, because that was that's poor behavior to give up halfway through a missionary journey to go home and because you want to do something else. That's not on. That's bad form, John Mark. Now, they did get reconciled later on, which is good. But this,

It could be he's just like he's just focused on this world, which Paul talks about. Uh, what is this in Philippians? He talks about it. Let me get the exact reference I'm thinking off the top of my head. Oh, yeah. Here we go. This is uh Philippians 2:20. It talks about like he's going to send Timothy to them. like I want to send Tim Timothy to you to to you soon so you may be cheered by so I too may be cheered by news of you for I have no one like him who will be genuinely concerned for your welfare for they all seek their own interests not those of Jesus Christ even amongst all of Paul's companions his fellow Christians even his fellow apostles he's got no one like Timothy because they all seem to seek their own interests not those of Jesus Christ wow so could that be the same thing with Deus maybe or I'm happy to read it as like he's abandoned the faith. I'm happy to read it as that way. I'm just saying that's a that's in the realm of possibility and we could find out in heaven. Maybe Deus repented. Maybe Deus came to faith eventually. Who knows? We'll find out. Hopefully he did. But let's say Tim Let's say Paul's saying to Timothy that Deus has abandoned the faith. Okay, that still doesn't mean that Deeus was genuinely saved to begin with. You don't see anywhere in scripture it's saying Deus is saved. All we see is his name mentioned three times in the Bible. The one we've already read one that's in that second Timothy passage. We see it in Colossians 4:14. Luke the beloved physician greets you as does Deeus. That's all it says. God has mentioned his name there. And it also mentions it in Filimon verse 24. So do Mark, Aristocus, Deeus, and Luke, my fellow workers. So we have his name appearing three times in the entirety of scripture. It doesn't say anywhere that he's definitely a saved person, elect person. Now, he would profess to be a Christian. Of course, that's why he's working alongside Paul, but that doesn't mean he's truly justified. Paul's not all knowing. So Paul doesn't know if every one of his companions are truly saved. Jesus does because Jesus is God, but Paul's not God and so he doesn't know.

So can people fall away only in the sense that people can profess to believe and then fall away from professing to believe. But can someone be genuinely saved and fall away from genuine faith and fall away therefore from salvation? No. Because God keeps us, sustains us all the way to the end. 1 Corinthians 1:8 speaks about Jesus Christ who will sustain you to the end guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. Those who believe you can lose your salvation like Nicholas Bowling and people like that have to ignore these verses. They can't hold on to a verse like this. They have to be like, "Nah, let's" or they have to add in stuff. He'll sustain you to the end as long as you don't do mortal sins. He'll sustain you to the end as long as you hold on hard enough. And I don't know what it is. You know, don't do willful sins. That's what they sometimes say. As long as you don't do willful sins. Otherwise, you'll be found guilt guiltful. Lots of guilt on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. But we who hold all of scripture have to be like, "No, we agree with this. Christ will sustain believers all the way to the end guiltless, not full of guilt, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. Why? Because he who began that good work in us will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.

All right, next one. Jesse says, "Hey, Ryan, could you explain the old perspective on Paul versus the new perspective on Paul?" Thank you and God bless. All right, so the old perspective on Paul is simply believing what Paul says. You believe that Paul is very clear and say by faith, not by works. And he's really Paul's debunking the idea that works play any part in your salvation. The new perspective on Paul is like, nah, that's not what Paul's focusing on. He's not talking about denying works for salvation. He's just talking about uh it's pretty tricky, pretty nuanced, but it's like it's about just not excluding the Gentiles. It's anti-right. I don't recommend him. He's got terrible theology in so many areas. Um as some people say, he's not anti-right, he's anti- wrong on so many areas. Um he's not Paul's not just dealing with Jew and Gentile divide. Paul is explicitly saying that works play no part in salvation. Circumcision plays no part. Other works no part. Works are fruit, but works don't play a part of salvation.

All right. Next one. I have a Catholic friend. So, what's the best way to open the door to salvation without sounding judgmental? Good question there, Ian. I'd recommend ask or actually just witness to them like you would as if they were just a without having to mention their church necessarily. Now, they may bring up their church, but when like we go to the Philippines on our mission trips, Lord willing, we'll be heading there again February next year. It's amazing place to witness because almost all of them are Roman Catholics and almost all of them just think that the way to heaven is by being a good person. That's what they say. And so then it's a it's what we do is we don't go to ah look your church is bad. No, we just go, okay, so do you think you're a good person? We go through the law, go through some of God's standards, bring the knowledge of sin. So would you be innocent or guilty? Do you deserve heaven or hell? Hell. What can we do then to save it? Save ourselves like not go to hell. Just be better from now on, they might say. And so then this is what we do is we then go and share Christ. No, actually that doesn't work. this is why it doesn't work and this is why Christ is a solution. So you haven't even had to touch on their church talk about the church at all generally speaking. It's only maybe with more educated ones. They'll be like, "No, but my church does this." And then you're going to have to deal with specifically, okay, but let's compare that with the Bible and things like that. But for them, for the average Roman Catholic, they're not very well educated in their own church. And so you can just go and share the simple message of Jesus Christ and him crucified. And a lot of them be like, "Wow, I've never been told this message before. This is amazing. How good is this message?" And then later on, sure, you can warn them that look, their church is probably going to teach you otherwise. And how they should try and find a good church, but they should particularly get into the Bible every day. They should be uh even asking family and friends about what they're trusting in to get to heaven so they can be a witness to them. But check out the common analogies for gospel conversations uh video that I've got on the YouTube channel. It's in the learn to share the gospel playlist. In fact, check out that one and all the other videos in that playlist. That could be helpful to know how to do it.

All right. I want to say a big thank you to Noel for your super chat here. Lovey. >> All right. Noel says, "Is John's baptism different from believers baptism or were they not truly baptized?" It's different. So, John's baptism is not the equivalent of Christian baptism. And the proof of that is Acts 19. Acts 19, Paul encounters some believers who received John's baptism. They didn't even know about the Holy Spirit. It says here said, 'We've not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit. He said, "Into what then were you baptized?" They said, "Into John's baptism." By the way, I think this may be just tell me what you guys think, but just thinking of a thought right now. This line here into the into what then were you baptized could be a subtle indicator that even Acts believes in the full formula baptismal formula of father son holy spirit you see that because in the book of acts you see it just oh they baptize in the name of Jesus baptize the name of Jesus doesn't say father son holy spirit but Matthew 28 does that's the formula given by Christ but the fact that Paul here says into what then will you baptized would indicate hold up you haven't heard of the holy spirit but what were you baptized into because Jesus says baptized in the name of the father son holy spirit see that so I think even acts here is giving an indication that he Luke believes in the full baptisal formula not just in the name of Jesus anyway that was just a side point there hopefully that's helpful in those sort of discussions um Josh says yeah that makes sense Cool. Uh, so yeah, these guys into what then will you baptize? Into John's baptism. Paul says, John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is Jesus. On hearing this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. See, notice this. These guys were baptized. It just wasn't Christian baptism. It was John's baptism, which seems to be more of a preparatory baptism, getting the people ready for the Messiah. the Messiah has already come and so now they should be baptized in the name of the trinitarian God, father, son, and holy spirit. So this really debunks also the argument people may use. Oh, but Jesus got baptized as if therefore it's a requirement for us to have to get baptized for salvation. Well, first of all, did Jesus have to get baptized for his own salvation? No. Like he did obviously to fulfill all righteousness. That's true. But did Jesus need sins forgiven? So that's one way you can respond. But the second thing is he got John's baptism. He didn't get Christian baptism. And there's a big difference between those two baptisms. Um, and yeah, hopefully you guys are looking forward to the video I'm going to be releasing. I gave you a bit of a teaser conversation with and you saw me with like this big head covering thing. um that's going to be put out uh tomorrow morning US time or evening Australian time um today. So, it's lots of fun. It's lots of fun making that and it's quite funny. Share it on if you if you guys see it. Make sure you comment on it, like it, pass it on to your friends, get it onto their walls. I think hopefully they can be edified by it.

Jamie says, "I've almost finished reading the crown." Good job. Nice work there. He's reading it to try and write down notes of things that are mistakes and errors. But one thing I have noticed is the focus on Satan in like the hadiths and things like that and even the Quran, the focus on Satan, it's like you can't do this because Satan does that. You can't do this because Satan, it's just Yeah. It's like the focus is not on God. It's it's more focused on what is Satan doing. We'll just not do what Satan's doing. And I think the short you'll see will kind of point this out a little bit. So I don't want to spoil it, but you can look forward to that. Um what we're going to do is I want to allow time for the viewer chats coming up shortly where you guys can ask questions and the evangelism we're going to be doing as well. So, let's get into some Bible trivia and then we'll get those other things started.

>> Trivia is here today. Open your hearts, your minds, your Bibles. Let's dive deep. No time for rivals. From Genesis to Revelation. It's a journey of exploration. God's word is alive, so let's take the test. who will type their answer fast and best.

>> All right, let's get into some Bible trivia. I'm going to give you guys 10 questions to start us off. Start off easy, we'll get harder. Okay. Which part of Aaron and his sons was touched with the blood of the ram during their consecration? Was it their right foot, the right ear, the forehead, or the right hand? Okay. What do you think there, Harmony?

>> Um, right ear.

>> Right ear is correct. Look at that. That's interesting. You take some of the blood and put on the right ear of Aaron and the right ear of his sons and on the thumbs of their right hands and on the great toes of their right feet. Let me just double check what the other options were again. The right foot. put the right hand, the right ear. Yeah. Interesting. All right. I was wondering if the right hands then would be technically correct and also the right feet. So maybe I might just say possible other answers correct. So by the way, this is a quiz you guys can do on on your install on your phone or use it on our website uh anytime. It can help you get to know God's word better. And if you do encounter any incorrect answers or questions, you can obviously report them and we can fix them up.

Uh, when the angel miraculously released Peter from prison in Acts 12, what was Peter doing? Was he praying and singing hymns, weeping bitterly in chains, pacing the floor nervously or sleeping between two soldiers? All right, let's see who can ask. Kadosh, is it praying and singing hymns? No. Good try. That was what Paul and Silas were doing in the Philippian jail in Acts 16, but it's not what Peter was doing here in Acts 12. What do you want to try again?

>> This is tough. Just a context. Acts 12. I don't think he was crying likely. Uh maybe sleeping between two soldiers.

>> That is the correct answer. Nice work. Yeah, he's sleeping between two soldiers bound with two chains and centuries before the door were guarding the prison. What happened to the bad waters of Jericho when Elisha threw salt into the spring? This one I'm going to go to Phil. What do you think there? Uh, let me give you the options. It is the water turned to wine, the water completely dried, the water began to boil or the water was healed.

>> Is that deep?

>> The water was healed. Nice work. Yay. Who got that first? Good job you guys in the chat. If you're I think Cozy got that. Well done. All right. Next question. Into what herd of animals did Jesus send the demons named Legion? Was it a herd of sheep, a herd of cattle, a herd of goats, or a herd of pigs? It's for you, Balu. I believe that was a herd of pigs. Herd of pigs. Well done the chat. A lot of you guys getting that one. Which prophet foretold the death of Ahab and Jezebel? Was it Isaiah, Mikayiah, Elisha, or Elijah? Okay, this one goes to Spencer.

>> That Elijah

>> Elijah is the correct answer. Well done. Who falsely claimed to the council that Steven spoke blasphemous words against Moses and God? Was it the Roman guards, the Sadducees, secretly instigated men, or Saul of Tarsus? A case for you, Edson. C. Secretly instigated men is the correct answer. Nice work. Next one. These are the medium difficulty level questions. up to. What day of the week did Jesus heal the invalid at Bethesda causing controversy? Was it the first day, the Sabbath, the day of atonement, or the Passover? Harmony.

>> How to be the Sabbath?

>> It was the Sabbath. Great work. And that's why there was controversy in John 5, right? You're healing on the Sabbath. Come another day to be healed. As if healings were happening all the time. Come on. Uh, what did the wife of Phineas do immediately before she died upon hearing that the ark was captured and her husband was dead? She threw herself from the city wall or she fell upon her husband's sword. She tore her robes and cursed the Philistines or she gave birth to a son and named him Ikabod. All right, Kadosh, what do you think? Uh 1st Samuel 4:19 she died. Uh okay. Gave birth to a son. Uh maybe uh I don't know. Uh she um fell upon her husband's sword. No, she didn't. Good try >> again. Oh, it's Phineas. Who is Fus if you're left?

>> Yeah. Um,

>> so I believe this is Is this relate is this the same Phineas as the one? She tore her robes. My bad. I think >> it's a different Phineas, right?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Um, this is related to Eli, >> right?

>> Yeah. Tore robes probably. Maybe.

>> No. Try again.

>> Okay. All right. Uh, threw herself from the city wall.

>> No, she gave birth to a son and named him. Good try, brother. Good try, man.

>> So, Kabod, anyone remember what Kabod means?

>> Yeah, Harmony.

>> The glory of the Lord has departed.

>> Nice work. That is correct. that glory has departed from Israel because the ark of God had been captured and because of her father-in-law and her husband. Ah, that's right. Father-in-law was Eli, right? Frankly. Okay, next question. We're up to hard ones. So, that was only that was medium. We're now stepping it up a little bit more. Which Israelite man blatantly brought a Midianite woman into his family in the sight of Moses? Was that Kora, Achan, Dothan, or Zimry? Okay, Phil, any thoughts? Oh, they're all great names of that part of the Bible. Um, definitely deserves to be in the hard section. Yeah.

>> And so what is reli man? Uh, is it Zimry? Let's see if you're correct. It is Zimry. Well done. Nice work. Yeah, this is where Phineas, son of Elier, is a different Phineas, son of Aaron. um threw the spear between in the belly of the man and the woman because of their sexual immorality they were committing and that stopped the plague. And so the name of the man was um sim talks about bit further on. Yeah. Um, nice work. Okay. According to Nahm 1, the Lord's way is in the whirlwind and the storm, and the clouds are the what of his feet. Is it chariot, shadow, shoes, or dust? Okay. Uh, Bolu, I'm going to guess a chariot.

>> A chariot. Not a chariot. Try again. Shadow.

>> Not a shadow. Try again.

>> Dust. I mean, sorry. No, not dust. I'm going to guess shoes.

>> Shoes. Not shoes.

>> The dust of his feet. Okay,

>> that is correct. His ways in the whirlwind and storm and the clouds are the dust of his feet. There you go. That Hard question that one. Two hard ones there. Okay. So, when the angel miraculously released Peter from prison in Acts 12, what was Peter doing there, Spencer?

>> He was sleeping between two guards soldiers.

>> Yeah, nice work. Yep. And what did the wife of Phineas do immediately before she died upon hearing that the ark was captured and her husband was dead? Okay, this is for you there, uh, Edson. She gave birth to Ikab.

>> Yes. And according to Nahm 1, the Lord's ways in the whirlwind and the storm and the clouds are the what of his feet. Harmony

>> dust.

>> Dust of his feet. Great work there. Um, you guys done awesome. And let me pick what should we do? We could pick a Let's maybe do a summary. We'll do three questions summary quiz for you guys today. Okay, here we go. I'm going to describe a chapter. You guys got to tell me where you think this is in the Bible. Okay. Jesus tells his disciples the parable of the dishonest manager, advising them to use worldly wealth shrewdly to gain eternal friends and emphasizing that one cannot serve both God and money. The Pharisees who are lovers of money have ridiculed him. Jesus rebukes them, declaring that God knows their hearts, and what is exalted among men is an abomination to God. He then shares the vivid story of the rich man and Lazarus, demonstrating the permanence of the afterlife and the dire consequences of ignoring God's word and lacking compassion. Okay. Is that Mark 15, John 13, Matthew 18, or Luke 16? All right. Who wants to guess this one? Any thoughts? Okay, Phil, what do you think? Yeah, I think it's in my recent reading in the Gospels of Luke. Luke 16. Yeah, we got a song on this, by the way. Song like make friends for yourself by means of unrighteous wealth that when it fails, they may receive you into eternal dwellings. It's a good one. like that song. All right, next one. So, Luke 16 was the answer. Next chapter. The Lord commands Moses to take a contribution from the people of materials like gold, blue thread, and acacia wood to build a sanctuary. Instructions are given for constructing the ark of the covenant and the mercy seat with cherubam and the table of showbread. The chapter concludes with detailed designs for the golden lampstand to be made of pure beaten gold. Is that Exodus 25, Numbers 20, Deuteronomy 11, or Genesis 10? Any thoughts from you guys? Hey Spencer, you you got something?

>> Um, Exodus,

>> Exodus 25, you are correct. Yes, Exodus does have a lot of descriptions about the sanctuary. Next, Moses contrasts the land of Egypt, watered by irrigation, with the promised land, which drinks water from the reign of heaven. He commands the Israelites to love and obey God, promising rain and abundance as a reward, but warning of famine for idolatry. Instructions are given to teach God's word to their children and to set a blessing on Mount Gerism and a curse on Mount Ebal. Is this Deuteronomy 11, Genesis 5, Exodus 2, or Numbers 9? Edson, what do you think?

>> Deuteronomy,

>> Deuteronomy 11. Let's see if you're correct. You are correct. Well done, you guys. We got 100% on that quiz. That's so good. Those summaries, chapter summaries are really helpful to get you become more familiar with different parts of your Bible. So I encourage you guys to check out all the different parts of our Bible trivia quiz. It's all free. You can use it on our website and you can install it on as an app from our website.

Okay. Now, uh, could you encourage us with a song and then after that we'll get Edson to pray for us? Thanks for that.

>> Sounds good. May God be glorified. Okay. Um Okay. For the word of the cross is falling to those who are perishing. But to us who are being saved, it is the power of God. First Corinians 1 verse 18.

>> Heavenly Father, thank you so much um for giving us one more day to serve you that we do not deserve. Um thank you for the internet that we have that we're able to have some fellowship. Thank you for all the all the answers that we're able to answer today and for the Bible trivia. Please help us as we go and share the gospel. um give us the words to say, help us to um focus on glorifying you, Lord. And yeah, please help us and raise up more laborers. Um we need more help, Lord. Thank you so much for everything you've done for us. Amen.

Amen. Thank you, you guys. Appreciate that. We're about to go have a live conversation with anyone in the world to try and share the gospel with them. We will be doing viewer chats coming up shortly where you guys can call in. But right now, you get to see who we get to meet. This will be lots of fun. You can put your guesses in. We're going to jump onto monkey. So, guess a country anywhere in the world. All right, let me just make sure we have it all updated. Okay, updated. All right, let's load it up. Okay, nice. Good. Heading on to monkey. Let's see where God is going to send us. This is pretty exciting. I love being able to see who the Lord is going to impact. Father, may they be openhearted to hear your amazing and beautiful gospel. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.

Hey, >> hey, can I ask you a question? >> Hey, what is AI? It's >> not AI. Hey, can I ask you a question? Hey, bro. Whoa. My my question for you is um do you believe that there's a heaven after we die?

>> Well, repeat.

>> Sorry. My question is do you believe that there is a heaven after we die?

>> Oh. Oh, yes. I think

>> good good.

>> I think yes.

>> So, what do we have to do to go to heaven, do you think?

>> Oh, that's a difficult question, bro. It's it's a bit because in many religions are different like I how do I say this? Um many like obligations that you have to follow to go to heaven. I see in different religions it depends. I get what you're saying. Yeah.

>> Now, I want to ask you, do you think that you've been a good person?

>> Sorry.

>> Have you been a good person?

>> Oh, I think that No, not not at all.

>> Okay. I agree. I don't have I haven't been a good person either. Um, have you ever like told a lie before? Sorry, my internet is is

>> Sorry. Yeah, I'll ask it again. Have you ever told a lie before?

>> Oh, no. No.

>> Really? You've never told one lie in your entire life?

>> Oh. Oh, yeah. I I didn't hear it very well. Yeah, of course. That's

>> all right. What about this one? Have you ever used bad words before?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. Or even have you ever been angry or rude to somebody?

>> Yeah, of course.

>> So, if God is to judge you based on these things, do you think you'd be innocent or guilty?

>> Oh, I think that guilty.

>> Guilty. So, because we're guilty, should we get a reward or a punishment? Well, bro,

>> punishment, right? If you do the bad things, you don't get a a reward for doing bad, right? It' be a punishment, right?

>> And so, does that punishment sound like heaven or hell?

>> Like like what do you think? Would it be heaven or would that be hell? What do you think? I think that could be hell.

>> Yeah. And that's the bad news. We definitely don't want to go to hell because it's a lake of fire and it does go on forever. So, we need some sort of way to not go to hell right

>> now. What do you think we could do now to not go there? Uh maybe I think that human being can't stop lying like that. Uh because we are human beings. We made mistakes many times and it's too difficult for all of us to uh not to make mistakes but we can like uh maybe uh follow the way that god give to us to go to his way and make make us better. Not not the best but better.

>> Yeah, you got a lot of background noise there. I'm not sure what's going on in the background. Sound like a dog tapping or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, bro. I I have a lot of noise.

>> Mice, is it? Is that mice? You say Oh, you say noise.

>> You said a lot of noise. Oh, I can say. Oh, okay. Fair enough. Okay.

>> Yeah. So, living better from now on isn't going to get rid of the the bad that we have done already. It's like if you did five crimes yesterday and then today you did 10 good things. Are the police still going to punish you for your crimes?

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. So, same with God is that even if we do no more bad things, we just do good things from now on, God's still going to punish us for all those past sins that we've already committed. And so that's why doing good, being a good person is not the way to heaven. It's just not the way there because we don't meet that standard. So what we need instead, man, is we need someone who can actually get our punishment on our behalf. And I'll show you this in this picture here. If that's you over here, and this is your hell punishment, it's you can see it's coming straight towards you. It's about to hit you. But then what's Jesus doing here? It's like covering our covering to us.

>> Yeah. So if he gets all that punishment for you, then where would you get to go when you die?

>> To hell.

>> No. If he saves you from hell,

>> you go to

>> from to heaven. To hell.

>> Correct. So based on this picture, why do you get to go to heaven? Uh because uh Jesus uh like he how do I

>> he protects you or

>> he Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah. He protects you. Exactly. He got that he got that punishment for you. This message is amazing, right? cuz we should be in hell. And he's like, I'm going to save you from that so you don't have to go there. And so we just have to accept that as a gift from Jesus. And we accept it just by trusting in him that he's taken that punishment that we deserve. Does that make sense?

>> Yeah.

>> Good. So if you trust in Jesus today, but then you do five more bad things again tomorrow, do you think that you'd go to heaven or hell? Uh, in the way you explain it to me, I think that I will go to heaven.

>> Yes. And why?

>> Because Jesus protects me.

>> You got it. He does it for your past and your future sins, both of them. Um, but what if you don't trust that he died for you? Then where would you end up? I don't know.

>> Well, uh I always learned that if I don't trust in in him, uh it's like uh I I will not go to heaven,

>> right?

>> But I I I really think that that's not 100% right. I I don't know why.

>> Yeah. Tell me why you don't think so. Uh because uh uh I think that God uh I mean Jesus uh died for us for all of us. So I think that he pardoned all of us.

>> Okay.

>> Even if we don't

>> I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. It's just that he didn't do it for everyone. He only did it the Bible says for those who would believe. It's like this. This might be helpful. If I gave you a if I offered you a gift right now, but you didn't accept my gift, then have you actually received that gift?

>> No.

>> No. So, in the same way, if Jesus offers to pay for people's sins, but they don't accept it, they reject that he took their punishment. Well, then he won't take it for them. They got to get it themselves.

>> You see? Yeah. So that's why most people will still go to hell because most people don't trust in Jesus, you know, and that's why our job is to try and tell them about trusting in Jesus so that they can be saved, right? But since you don't want to be sent to hell, when should you start trusting that it's because of Jesus that you're going to heaven?

>> Uh, okay. Well, I Since I was a kid, like three or four years old, I for example, my grandma is very uh trust a lot in God. He likes going to church every Sunday

>> and well my my mo my mother too. So I always grew up in a religious uh family.

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. Yep.

>> So I I always trust in him. Well, you've always trusted in Jesus in the sense that you've always trusted that he exists and that he probably died on the cross and rose from the dead. You know, all those different things. That's good. But what you haven't been trusting in to get you to heaven is Jesus alone. You've been thinking beforehand, remember at the start of this chat, what did you think was going to get you to heaven before we talked? You said like doing good things, right?

>> Yeah.

>> So notice what your trust was in. Your trust wasn't in Jesus to save you. Your trust was in yourself to save yourself.

>> You see?

>> Okay. So from today, you should not just believe he exists. You should trust I'm going to heaven because of one reason only. Jesus died for me. See that?

>> Okay. Now, let's say you stood before God and he asked you, "Why should I let you into heaven?" What do you think you'd say to him?

>> What what I what what I I say to him.

>> Yeah. Yeah. What would you say to God if he asked you why should I let you into heaven? Uh because uh Jesus

>> pardoned me.

>> Yeah, exactly right. Jesus pardon me or Jesus took my punishment. That's so good. That's really good. So, do you have to do good things to go to heaven?

>> Not necessary. No, you're right.

>> It's not

>> Yeah, not required. We just do good things to say thank you to him and to honor him, but not as a requirement for um salvation. That's good. I'm glad you're getting this. And so, how sure are you out of 100 that you're going to heaven?

>> Um, before all you told to me,

>> uh, 100%. I think

>> you're saying after after since we've since we've had this conversation, you now say 100.

>> Wow, that's awesome, man. That's encouraging. Yeah, because now you realize it's not based on your actions and that's why you can be 100%. Like before we talked, you couldn't be 100 if you, you know, because if it's based on your actions.

>> Um, let's say a friend of yours told you that he's going to heaven because he's a good person. Would that friend go to heaven or hell?

>> Uh, if he trusts in Jesus, I think he will go to heaven.

>> Right? But based on what he said, he said he's going to heaven because he's a good person. So, is he trusting in Jesus to get him to heaven or is he trusting in himself?

>> No. No, no, no. In himself.

>> Right. You got it. And so, because he's trusting in himself, he doesn't have Jesus then paying for his sins.

>> Yeah.

>> So, where does he end up?

>> Um, hell.

>> Yeah, you got it. But um let's say you had someone else who says, "I'm going to trust in both Jesus to get me to heaven as well as trusting in my good deeds." Where would that person go?

>> To hell.

>> Yeah, it would actually still be to to hell. And why?

>> Uh because he's uh having like two gods. So

>> true. Yeah.

>> He's like,

>> who do I say? Uh he's not 100% sure that he's he's he's not 100% for Jesus,

>> right? Yeah, it's true. He's thinking it's 50% Jesus, 50% himself, and therefore he's not 100% trusting in Jesus, so he would go to hell. Yeah, you got it. Well done. You got that, man. You're very smart. So if you had died before we talked today, where would you have gone to?

>> To hell.

>> Yeah. But if you died now, where would you go?

>> To heaven.

>> Yeah. Wow. That would make this conversation a turning point. If your trust is now in Jesus, which is so encouraging. That's really amazing. The Bible says the angels rejoice even over a single person coming to the Lord. So this is an amazing thing, man. And as a result, you want to read your Bible. The Bible is such a precious book. It'll help you to turn from sin to avoid the sinful things that God doesn't want us to do. The Bible help us to know what those things are. And so, do you have a Bible at home?

>> Uh, yeah, I have two, I think.

>> Two Bibles. Yeah. Now, do you read the Bible very much?

>> Seems really not.

>> No. Yeah. Try getting

>> too much. Yeah. What my encouragement would be is for you to start reading your Bible every day. So you might say this to yourself.

>> I'd say read the Bible every day. You could even say to yourself, "No Bible, no breakfast, no read, no feed." So you're basically saying, "I'm not going to eat food in a day until I've read my Bible first." What do you think of that? Oh, I think that I would have more like discipline on my Bible.

>> Yes, it would be very good for you, man. You could start in the book of John. Have you heard of that book before? Johnwan.

>> Starting John. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

>> You know that one? Yeah. That's a good place to start in the Bible because it talks about who Jesus is, but also how to be saved through faith in him. And also, does somebody need to get baptized to go to heaven?

>> What?

>> Sorry. Does someone is someone required to get baptized to go to heaven?

>> Baptism.

>> That's where you go in the water. you get dunked in the water. You know what I'm talking about?

>> No, I think

>> yeah, the answer is no. Right. There's no it's not a requirement because baptism is one of the good things that we do for God. It's it is an act of obedience to the Lord, but we're not saved by the good things that we do. So, clearly, it's not a requirement for us to do to go to heaven. It's just something that we do because we're Christians. Um, and do you go to church yourself? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Sometime because sometimes uh I have no time because I go to to school and I have to do some homeworks and I sometime I have to be at home. But when we are in home uh my grandmother puts uh a virtual a virtual Yeah.

>> A virtual how do I say I I think you're you're like a church a virtual church service you're saying or

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> Yeah. So like online service or something like that. Is that what you're talking about?

>> No.

>> Ah okay. Yeah. Do you know what kind of church you go to usually?

>> Sorry.

>> Do you know what kind of church you go to usually?

>> The kind of church Oh, to do you mean like Catholic?

>> Yeah. Yeah, like that kind of thing. Yeah.

>> Yeah. The um most the Catholic one.

>> Catholic. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And what you might find at the Catholic church when you've been there, what have they told you is the way to go to heaven? uh like I say you before uh I I don't know how to explain uh the 10 >> ten commandments. Yeah. Ten commandments.

>> Yeah.

>> Right. Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> So so basically they're telling you that you've got to in essence work your way to heaven if it's based on keeping the ten commandments. That's not a free gift if it's based on that. And so that's why just be aware that they may not be preaching the right way to heaven. And so you want to be checking everything you hear with the Bible to make sure it lines up with that because the Bible doesn't teach that we go to heaven by keeping the ten commandments. It says that we go to heaven through faith in Jesus, what he's done to save us. So check with the Bible and yeah, if maybe you'll be wanting to find a church that teaches it's Jesus alone as well, a Christian church. But if you asked say your family or friends about why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be?

>> I think that their respond will be similarity to the first one I gave to you initially.

>> Yeah. Yep. And because you don't want them to go to hell, what could you do to help them not go there? uh I could uh explain what you told to me uh to guide them to this way.

>> Yeah. Pass the message on. I definitely think that'll be one of the most loving things um that you could ever do for them is to share this message. That's a good idea. Yeah. Now, um do you have any questions or any comments?

>> Sorry.

>> Sorry. Do you have any questions or any comments? Oh, no thief. No.

>> No.

>> Okay, cool. So, just just remind me if God asked you, "Why should I not send you to hell for your sins?" What would you say to him?

>> Because I trust on you.

>> Yeah. Trust what about him

>> about his um about his like sacrifice for me.

>> Yeah, exactly. Jesus sacrifice for me. That's why I'm going to heaven. This Yeah, that's that's what we should say. That's good. I'm really glad that we got to have this amazing conversation and I'll I want to share with you. I've got a got some social media channels um on Tik Tok, Instagram, or even YouTube. It's needgod.net. net. So check that, check out the content there at needgod.net. The videos will be hopefully useful, help edifying for you to help you to learn more about the things of the Lord. Um, but yeah, my name's Ryan. What was your name?

>> Oh, my name is a bit weird. My name is Osmandis.

>> Oh, great to meet you, man. And um I'm just encouraged that you've understood the message. Keep reminding yourself of what Jesus did like every day so you don't forget it, right? I deserve hell, but Jesus took that for me. And then let's flee from sin. Let's try and avoid the bad things just out of gratitude to God for everything that he's done for us. Yeah. But yeah, appreciate this conversation, man. Thanks for the talk.

>> Me, too. Thank you so much.

>> No worries. And definitely check out the YouTube. There's a great community of people in the YouTube. Um, we do like a live stream and stuff like that. So, there's a community in the live chat that are really friendly and they'll welcome you in there. So, yeah.

>> Okay.

>> Awesome, man. God bless you, brother.

>> Thank you. You, too, bro.

>> Hey. Wow. What an encouraging chat. Someone in Ecuador. So good. He had ears to hear, didn't he? The Lord had prepared his heart. I'm glad I stuck around. Even if there was slight language difficulty, he was able to understand me really well and was able to come to understand grace after, you know, never really hearing that before. All these thing is based on keep the ten commandments, just do good, do good. That's not the gospel. That's a burden. That's what Jesus said. You know, come to me all who labor and are heavy laden and I'll give you rest. Right? There's no rest if salvation is based on lawkeeping. Yes, we seek to obey God now because we're saved. But salvation is not based on our lawkeeping. And so once he came to understand that just like we've come to understand that makes you just praise God for eternity, doesn't it? God would save me. God would save me as a wretch. Ah, so good. Now, let's see if anyone guessed Ecuador. Harmony saying no one did. No one guessed Equator, she said. Um, Ecuador. Yes. Um, that's okay. No one won round two. We will do round uh So, that was round one. We'll do round two in just a moment. So, you guys can put your guesses in for we're going to do another monkey chat and then we're probably going to do viewer chat straight after that, Lord willing. So, you can start thinking of any questions you want to ask. If you want to come for a viewer chat, that'll be I'll pop a link in shortly. We should do probably one more chat here on Monkey. So, put your guesses in of where you think this next person's going to be at. I just want to say a big thank you to John for your very kind super chat. Appreciate it, John. ends.

>> Heavenly Father, we pray for that last man. I do pray that um yeah, he'll tr his trust will be in Jesus. May he um get into the Bible every single day and help him to just grow and be sanctified. But Lord, pray for this next chat as well. Maybe with someone else you want me to speak with. May you save your people, Lord. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.

But yes, thank you as well, John. appreciate your continued support. Appreciate it. Kev says, "Why doesn't Ryan ever play the ukulele in his room on stream?" I used to. I'm just nowhere as good as um Harmony. She can just like play the ukulele amazingly. Same with Beck, by the way. I need Beck more often on there. Uh, but yeah, just usually don't find time to play the ukulele that much. haven't kind of made a priority. All right, here we go. Let's see where God sends us. Yeah, Harmony says, "Beck." Jamie says, "Harmony is so good. I've been practicing." Good. Good on you, Jamie. You've been practicing. Yeah, you got you got a ukulele, didn't you? Uh, here we go. There was a super chat also from Stillness. He says, "How could conversations in the Bible be recorded with such accuracy and precision verbatim when nobody else was present to write down exactly what was said?" Great question. Their stillness. Thank you for asking it. Well, we see that they had the Holy Spirit. Those who wrote sacred scripture, we're not just making stuff up out of thin air. Instead, let me bring up the passage that I'm thinking of. John chapter 14 26. But the helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the father will send in my name, he will teach you all

things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. There we go. So everything Jesus said will be brought to the remembrance to the apostles. And so therefore, they were able to write down sacred scripture.

Now, you might say, "What about other conversations that not just recording what Jesus said, but what other people said?" Just remember, they're still writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. No prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. Uh, it's a very oral culture, so potentially they would have been able to hear it and then repeat it like just continually. And maybe Jesus preached similar things at different instances and that could then help them to remember it. But then also they could have been writing down notes. Who knows? Doesn't tell us that they were. But that is also possible. But I think we got to not forget the divine aspect of it. Scripture is not the word of man. It's truly the word of God. So hopefully that's helpful there.

Okay. So some people put your guesses in. Let's see where are you meaning between Pontius Pilate and Jesus. Yeah, I think it maybe they went to Roman records. Potentially Roman records record those sort of conversations. We don't know if it does, but that could be in the Roman possibility. Or again, it's the Holy Spirit who's still helping them just to know the information. Like, how did Moses know about creation of of the universe in six days? God must have told him in some sort of supernatural way.

Hey, here we go.

>> Hey, can I ask a question?

>> Hey, man. My question is, um, do you believe there's a heaven after we die?

>> Hello.

>> Yeah, I can hear you loud and clear, my friend. Can you hear me?

>> Yeah, I can hear you.

>> Cool. So, my question is, do you believe that there is a heaven after we die?

>> Yes, I do.

>> Good. I do as well. So, what do you think we've got to do then to make sure we end up in heaven?

>> Believe.

>> Yeah.

>> About believing.

>> Believing. I I agree with you. But what do we have to believe? Anything specific?

>> I faith that there's a spiritual being.

>> Okay. So, believe God exists. Is that enough to be saved?

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. Just believe God exists. Cuz there are a lot of people who do believe God exists, but let's say they're murderers. Would they still go to heaven?

>> I think it's about faith.

>> I I 100% agree.

>> It is about faith, but I think it's more >> it's more than just believing God exists because even the demons and the devil himself knows that God exists,

>> right? And so therefore, that doesn't mean that the demon, the devil are saved and going to heaven,

>> right? Yes.

>> Okay. Yeah. True. So I think you never know because you never know because uh as we know Jesus came for the sinners for the righteous.

>> He did. Yeah. He didn't come for the righteous but for sinners. I I 100% agree. I think we're sinners. Like you would agree you and me are sinners.

>> Yes, I do agree that both of us.

>> Would you say you deserve heaven or hell for your sins?

>> I don't know. I don't know what I I cannot say that. Uh the Almighty knows where I belong.

>> He knows even our secret thoughts, things that you know nobody else knows. He knows about. He knows even every careless word we say. And Jesus says we'll have to give an account for it on the day of judgment. So like in your life, have you ever lied before?

>> Yes. Me too.

>> A thousand times.

>> Yeah. Ever used bad language?

>> Yes, I've done I've used bad language before. Even this one. Have you ever looked at a woman and thought a lustful thought about her? Probably all done this, right? God sees this. Jesus said that's adultery at the heart if we ever do that. So the point is, if God is to judge you based on these things, do you think you'd be innocent or guilty?

>> I'll be guilty, but I do repent for my sins >> so that I God I come I come before God as a sinner.

>> Yes, we do.

>> And that's good. I I agree. I like that you pray to God. You confess your sins to God. I think that's a really healthy and right practice to do that. But it's like this. If you stood before a judge in a court of law and said, "Judge, I murdered someone yesterday, but I'm really sorry today. Please forgive me and let me go free. Would the judge let you go free?

>> No.

>> No. Same with God. It's good to confess our sins to him, but it doesn't get rid of them. It doesn't get rid of the punishment for them. So, what we need instead is we need someone who could get our hell punishment on our behalf. That's what Jesus did.

>> Remember how he died and rose from the dead?

>> Yes.

>> Yeah. So if Jesus then gets 100% of your punishment, then how much punishment would be left for you to still get? Like if he got all of it?

>> Yeah. Be none left.

>> So with no punishment left, then where would you get to go when you die?

>> To heaven.

>> Yeah. So based on this logic, why then do you get to go to heaven?

>> Because Jesus died for our sins.

>> That's exactly right. Jesus died for our sins. So not because we pray, not because we just believe he's real, but because he died for us and we accept that as a gift by believing that he's taken that punishment on our behalf. Now, what would happen if you believe in in Jesus today and what he's done, but then you do 10 more sins again tomorrow and then you died? Would you go to heaven or hell?

>> I think he'll still go to heaven because uh the the sins that we commit right now, they're not like sins because Jesus already died for our sins. That's what I think.

>> right? Yeah, they're still sins that we're doing, but in a sense of they're paid for. They're covered by him. So, yeah, it actually would be heaven, right? He dies for past, present, and future sins. But what if you don't trust that he died for you? Where would you end up?

>> hell.

>> And since that's not where you want to go to, when should you start trusting that he died for all of your sins?

>> You should always believe that once you're born again.

>> Yeah. Immediately. Absolutely. Because we just don't know how long we've got left. And so, like, from this day on, definitely be trusting in him.

>> Because >> do you see the difference between what you were trusting in?

>> Like at the start of this chat, you were thinking just believe God's real, maybe pray. Hopefully gets you forgiveness. That's different to trusting I'm going to heaven because Jesus took my punishment for me. Do you see the difference?

>> Yes, I do see the difference.

>> Good. So, does doing good things then play any part in getting you to heaven.

>> Doing good things. It depends. Are you doing it to be seen or are you doing it out of heart?

>> Well, let's say you're doing all those good deeds out of heart, love and humility. Do those sort of things. Do those good deeds play a part in getting you to heaven?

>> I think uh what I can think of is uh if you do good do uh good will come. I say if you do good yeah someone out there is God is seeing yeah and he will he'll bless the works the work of your hands by doing good to others. That's what I can say.

>> Sure. Yeah. There can be a reward in heaven and things like that for good deeds we do. But does it actually play a part in getting us into heaven?

>> I don't know.

>> Okay. Yeah. The answer would be no. Because Jesus does all the work. If he's done everything needed to get us to heaven, our good deeds aren't a contributing factor.

>> It's like this. If I said to you, "Here's $20. It's a free gift, but you've got to wash my car to get it." Is that $20 really a free gift?

>> No, it's not a free gift.

>> Exactly. And so Jesus doesn't make us work for salvation. He says it's a free gift, which means we don't have to do anything good in order to receive it. We just do the good now out of love and gratitude to God. See that?

>> Okay. So what would you tell God if he asked you today, why should I let you into heaven?

>> Because you're my father.

>> Okay. Yep. But you know, does that What do you mean by that? When you say he's your father, what do you mean by that?

>> I believe in him.

>> Yeah.

>> He's my father because uh he brought us to this world.

>> He did. But he he brought everyone to this world, didn't he?

>> Yes.

>> So not everyone's going to heaven, though. So why specifically should he let you in as a

>> but this was the condition right you need to believe that I am who I am who I am I don't I don't remember it very well but there's that uh how is it called that saying I am who I am wait just a minute

>> yeah exodus 3:14 talks about that where God gives his name I am who I am say to say to Pharaoh that I am has sent you me to you so that's God's name how God described himself. But even if someone acknowledges God is I am that doesn't mean that they would go to heaven. Remember we have to have someone who pays for our sins.

>> Mhm.

>> Jesus. Right. So let me ask you,

>> what was the reason why we get to go to heaven even though we deserve hell?

>> What was the reason? Because already Jesus died for our sins. That's the reason.

>> So rather than saying because you're my father because that that's not very specific be more so you can let me to heaven because Jesus died for my sins. That's the reason you can let me into heaven. It's pointing to his finished work. Um, so how sure are you right now out of a hundred that you're going to heaven?

>> How sure I am.

>> Yeah. I I can't say I can't say uh how sure I am, but I know I'm going to heaven because Jesus died for my sin.

>> That that does that sound like 100% then?

>> Maybe.

>> Well, you said I know I'm going to heaven. That sounds like 100% confidence. But are you saying you're not sure you're going to heaven?

>> I know Jesus already died for my sins, right?

>> Mhm. For me, you for everyone, right?

>> Well, only for those who

>> only for the believers and the condition was just be be a believer, right?

>> Yeah. So, trust that I'm going to heaven because of what Jesus did on the cross and him alone.

>> Exactly.

>> So, if you believe that, you'll be 100% sure you're going to heaven then. You're putting me on a you're putting me on a tight condition.

>> Well, I think I think this is actually helping us help you see what true faith actually is. It's like this. If a friend says, "Look, I'm going to bring over dinner for you tomorrow night at 6 p.m. Well, then if you trust your friend, you're going to be 100% sure. Yeah, they'll bring it over and I don't need to make my own food. I won't make my own dinner. My friend's got it." So if we actually trust Christ's promise to us of eternal life in 1 John 2:25, he's promised us eternal life. So therefore, we're not going to be like, I'm 80% sure, because then you don't trust him. You'd be like, I'm 100% sure I'm going to heaven cuz he's promised it to me and he's not going to break that promise.

>> Yes.

>> Right. So faith is that assurance of things hoped for. The Bible says the conviction of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1. And so does that help clear up why we can be 100%.

>> Yes, it it does.

>> Good. Let's say a friend of yours told you that he's going to heaven because he's a good person. Would that friend go to heaven or hell

>> because he's a good person? But is he a believer?

>> Well, based on what he said, he's believing in something. But what is he believing in to get to heaven? He believes in himself,

>> right? Not Jesus. Yeah. So where does he go?

>> Goes to hell because he's got to pay for his own sins then. You see? But what if you had someone else who says, "I think I'm going to heaven because Jesus died for me and because I do good things." Where would that person go?

>> He'll go to heaven because he believes in God.

>> But was he trusting 100% in Jesus to get him to heaven or was it only 50%.

>> Um, it's I think it's 50/50,

>> right? Which means he Jesus,

>> which means he doesn't think Jesus is enough to get him to heaven and so Jesus is fine. I won't save you. You don't fully trust me. I won't save you.

>> And so the person goes to hell. Do you see that?

>> Yes.

>> Right. It'd be like this. Your friend says, "I'll bring dinner over at 6:00." But you're like, you're when the friend arrives, you're like cooking your own spaghetti and stuff like that. Your friend's like, "What? I put this food over and you're making your own dinner and then will they they leave with their food then. All right.

>> Um so

>> yeah, this is the thing. Christ will only give us salvation if our trust is exclusively in him and not in any good works. Anything that we do, it's all what he did.

>> So at at the beginning of this chat, um if you had died, where would you have ended up?

>> In heaven. Remember at the beginning of this chat, you weren't thinking it was just Jesus alone, right? You were thinking ask forgiveness or maybe just believe God's real. You weren't really exclusively having your trust in Christ sacrifice alone to save you. Do you see that?

>> Yeah.

>> So, it was kind of like the 50/50 thing. So, if you had died, where would you have ended up?

>> In hell,

>> right? But if you died this very moment, where would you go?

>> In heaven. Because right now I believe Jesus >> died for my sins.

>> That's so good. And this makes you love Christ even more. It makes you want to be walking in obedience out of gratitude to him um for what he's done for you. And I think the Bible is going to be a really good help in that. And so I encourage you to get into your Bible every day. Do you currently read the Bible much yourself?

>> No, I don't read the Bible.

>> Yeah, get into the habit of doing that. Make it just part of your day. You eat food every day. So make barber readings as part of your day because that's your spiritual food. You might say first thing in the morning, I'm not going to go to my phone. I'm going I'm going to go to my Bible. All right. Just discipline yourself with that. I think that's going to be really helpful. I'd recommend starting in the book of John. Do you know where the book of John is?

>> I know the book of John.

>> Yeah, it's a good start.

>> It's in the New Testament. So it's the fourth book of the New Testament. Uh, it's a great one. And then you could even go to Romans. Romans is a great one, too. It talks about even salvation and things we've talked about today. Now, does somebody need to get baptized to go to heaven?

>> Someone needs to be baptized to go to heaven.

>> Jesus himself was baptized.

>> Yeah. With John's baptism.

>> Yeah. With John's baptism to wash away sins.

>> Really? What sins did he have?

>> Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

>> You're not sure. That's fine. Yeah. So, Jesus had no sins and baptism doesn't wash away anyone's sins anyway. Uh, instead, baptism is more that public declaration of our faith. We get baptized as a way of telling the world, "Hey, I've died to my old self. I'm alive in Christ, but it doesn't save you at all." Um, it's a good work. Are we saved by the good works that we do?

>> Yeah. Sorry. Are we saved by the good works we do?

>> No, we not.

>> No. So, therefore, since baptism is an act of obedience or a good work we do for God, then it's not a requirement for salvation. See that? Otherwise, if we think it is, we're back to the 50/50 thing again. We're thinking Jesus is not enough. We had to make our own meal, so to speak. We had to do our own action and we end up in hell,

>> right? And that's not So, yeah, it's good to do good things like baptism, but just don't trust in it to get you to heaven. And if you asked your family or friends as to why they think they're going to heaven, what do you think their answer would be?

>> Yes. Obviously, everyone will say yes.

>> No, >> but as in if you ask them why, why they think they'll go to heaven, what do you think they might say?

>> I think they'll be like me. That'd be 50/50.

>> Yep. Yeah. That's what most people in the world are like. And so, because Yeah. Because you don't want them to be sent to hell. What could you do to help them not go there?

>> I can tell them on they have to have firm trust and faith in Jesus Christ because he died for our sins.

>> Yeah. Absolutely. Pass this message on. You've come to the knowledge of the truth today through this conversation and you can then be someone who passes that message on so that they can come to the knowledge of the truth and be saved as well. I think that's one of the most loving things we can do as Christians is to just pass on the gospel message to people. And um reading the Bible though definitely get into that habit of doing that. And don't make friends with sin. Sin is not helping you. Sin hurts you. It makes you feel regret, pain, broken relationships, got just terrible consequences. When God says don't do something, he's saying it for your good. Not because he hurts. He wants to hurt you, but because he loves you that much,

>> right?

>> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> Yes.

>> No, that's good. Um, do you have any questions or any comments at all? Um, do you do you have other than this app? Like uh do you

>> Yes, socials. I've got social media at needgod.net. It's not just a website. It's also on social media like Tik Tok, Instagram, and YouTube. Like we do YouTube lives and stuff like that. And it's great community of people. But hopefully the the videos and the content we put out is useful to help you learn more and just keep your focus on Christ and what he's done to save.

>> Let me just need God.net.

>> Yeah. Need God.net. Yeah.

>> Okay. Thank you. It was nice meeting you.

>> Yeah, you too. My name's Ryan. What was your name?

>> Uh, Hashim.

>> Hashim. Great meeting you, Hashim. Do you go to a church yourself?

>> I don't go often to church, but I do go to church once in a while.

>> Once in a while. Yeah. What kind of church do you go to?

>> Uh Protestants.

>> Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Protestant churches I find usually are better at teaching it through Christ alone rather than through other means of other works of salvation. Um, that's good. And I encourage you make it a regular thing if you can. You know, the Bible does say don't forsake the assembling of yourselves together.

>> So it is good to meet with other believers. Hear God's word being preached. You get to sing songs in worship of the Lord. So encouraging. I love it. But I'm so encouraged by this conversation that you've understood the message. And so just remind me if God asked you, "Why should I not send you to hell for all the sins you've done?" What would you say to him?

>> Jesus died for my sins.

>> Jesus died for my sins. Absolutely. And so you in Poland yourself, are you?

>> Yeah, I'm in Poland.

>> Wow. That's awesome, man. Yeah. Your English is great, by the way.

>> Thank you.

>> Yeah, it's good. Well, I look forward to seeing you up in heaven if your trust is in Jesus. But definitely come over to our YouTube live stream. Say hi to the people there. It's great community of people. But yeah, God bless you, man.

>> God bless you, too. Goodbye.

>> Bye. Praise the Lord. What an amazing chat there with that gentleman. Let's pray for him. Heavenly Father, we pray for that man in Poland. Thank you for his openness to hearing the gospel and having it all click. Thank you for you allowing that to happen, Lord. May you cause him to just continue to trust in Christ to the end, to be getting into your word every day, Lord, but then also being a witness to his family and friends around him. We pray this all in Jesus precious name. Amen. God is so good, isn't he? God is good all the time.

>> Yeah, that's right. Now, let's check. We had some really good chats today on Monkey, haven't we? Look at this. Yeah, Phil says Phil made a comment. Two up. Two coming into the kingdom of God. Yeah. Based on their professions that we can go off. They both both chats came to profess faith in Christ and said if their trust is in Jesus, look, the angels are rejoicing even over one sinner who repents. One sinner changes their mind to put their trust in the Lord Jesus. Harmony says, "No one said Poland." Fair enough. Thank you for keeping track of that. Look what she said. Poll and and she's then got an emoji of like polls, a graph there. Oh, that's hilarious. All right, cool. Well, we're going to get some viewer chat started. This is viewer chat's opportunity for you guys to come on in and ask questions you might have about God, faith, the Bible, or Christianity. You might be someone who completely disagrees with me on anything. Maybe one small thing or maybe on like everything. Come on in. Tell me why you think I'm wrong and we can have a friendly charitable chat together. I'd love to hear your thoughts and uh, yeah, we'll see who's what conversations we can have today with these viewer chats.

>> It's chat time here on.net. Yo, get excited. It's viewer chat time here onet.

>> All right. Um, look who's back. Restless. What's his What's his What's his username? Kurt. This is Kurt. His username today is restless, blind, unhappy. I can't even see the rest because he's got so many other. It's just like Oh, here we go. I can find it. restless, blind, unhappy Catholic twin. Good. Okay, let's see how he is. Let's check in with him. Hey, man. Welcome back.

>> Hey,

>> good to have you here, man.

>> Hey,

>> it's interesting you keep applying those. You can you can change that. You can be happy. Um, at peace, at rest, finding peace with God, Christian twin, like

>> I was actually just going to have Kurt, but because I thought I was going to have to do it on my phone, but I made it into the basement, so I was able to use my computer. I had it saved in there, so yeah. So, uh, I was actually going to ask you about this misconception video you put out.

>> Yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. So, the four things I don't preach, that one. Yeah, go for

>> it.

>> Yeah, because uh there must have been a miscommunication in our first uh talk because I presented a hypothetical situation where there was one person who was living with Christ and they died but they believed that they needed to cooperate with Christ. And then I presented another person who was walking with Christ uh didn't think they needed to cooperate with Christ and their last act before they died was to do some kind of horrible sin like murdering children. And what you told me and what I thought you told me was that the person who thought that they didn't have to cooperate with Christ was the one who was going to get to heaven in that situation.

>> Okay. So I'm just let's take the emotion out of it. Let's just take let's just say so because obviously the when people like love to go to emotional examples. Let's take the emotion out. Let's you would say any mortal sin on your perspective makes you lose your salvation. So let's say it was just you willfully missed even one week of church or you willfully told a lie you know you shouldn't told with full knowledge all that sort of stuff. Um, I would say the person who has who was resting in the finished work of Christ, not their own works, even if they did a so-called mortal sin right as the moment they're dying, they would go to heaven because Christ paid for their sin. But the man who's thinking, "No, it's based on my cooperation, not just based on what Christ did on the cross. It's based also on my cooperation, my obedience, my mass attendance, things like that in order to stay saved and therefore go to heaven." that man wouldn't go to heaven even if he didn't die doing a sin because he's not resting in the finished work of Jesus. He doesn't have Jesus paying for any of his sins and so it would be hell. Does that help clarify?

>> And you're saying that just thinking that you need to cooperate with grace means you aren't resting in Christ.

>> Correct. If you mean if we what we mean by cooperation I'll just clarify that is this idea that I can only keep my salvation if I'm reaching this level of obedience not sinning in this particular way things like that so works I need to do in order to keep my salvation that's not resting in Christ that's thinking Christ has done a bit sure but he hasn't done everything if I really want to have eternal life I've now got to do this x y or z in order to attain salvation and that's not resting in Jesus then

>> but it it would be their what they're thinking about it is that correct

>> yeah it's what they believe what their trust is in

>> so in that case they would have bad theology

>> yeah it's not just bad the like someone being a Muslim and rejecting Christ's deity and death on the cross that's bad theology, but it's also serious enough that they go to hell because if they die believing Islamic theology, you I assume you'd agree with that. So, there are certain things that you need to understand and believe to truly be saved.

>> Um, well, I guess it depends. In this situation, the person is trusting in Christ. So whether or not their christologology is 100% correct, I would say that doesn't necessarily keep them out of heaven because God is God and a comprehended God is no God at all. So if a person has an intellectual ability that doesn't allow them to understand God the way that they need to understand God if they were in the fullness of truth which would be almost all of us then I don't think that we could say that bad theology alone would get somebody to hell. I think that's a very dangerous thought but I guess you're saying that that's not what you're saying but then it sounds like maybe

>> so I'm misundersting this. Um, in my video I made clear that's not perfect. You don't need perfect theology in every aspect to go to heaven. That was what I was making the point of. But there is still certain things that you need to know and believe to be saved. Right? Jesus made that clear like uh let me show you John 3 verse 18. He says whoever believes in him is not condemned but whoever does not believe is condemned already because he's not believed in the name of the only son of God. So clearly there are certain things that you need to know. You need to know about Christ. You need to have belief in Christ in order to not be condemned. And if you don't know about him or you don't believe in him, clearly you are lost. I think that's very clear what it's saying there. So do you agree with that?

>> Yeah. But in my hypothetical, the person does know Christ. So I I'm confused how it applies.

>> Sure. How it applies is I was just making the point that there is we would both agree that there's a certain amount of theology and knowledge of something someone needs to have in order to be saved.

>> Okay, good. Just that was just more of a general principle. But back to your specific example, if someone thinks my salvation is contingent on how well I cooperate my so therefore my obedience, my works and my avoiding of mortal sins, then if they got to heaven on that way, then they could say, look, it was based on me, my cooperation largely or at least partly and glory then would go to that person. Therefore, not all glory going to God. Compared to someone resting in Jesus, they say, "Look, my cooperation, my obedience, and good works and avoiding sin plays no part in getting me to heaven, but I do want to pursue them anyway. I want to pursue good things, but it just doesn't play a part in keeping me saved or gaining me eternal life."

>> Okay, I guess I can understand what you're saying, which I guess then kind of goes back to what we understand is what is grace and what is works and whether or not a a work that is God's work that is done through a person by God sustaining them and like enabling them to be able to do it would be something that would count as them um in a way that would inval I guess in your mind would invalidate them trusting in Christ. So I I guess maybe I need to ask a question about a specific verse then.

>> Well, look, I'll just speak generally just to that just to that concept you just brought up now >> and then you can sure if you want to bring up a verse you can too. But what I was just going to say is even if we are empowered by God to work like think of Elijah. He was empowered by God as he did his prophetic ministry. He went to this place, that place, he was moving around, preaching everywhere, doing things like that. So you could say that he's doing the work of God. And I would say amen, but he's also it's also him doing the works. So it's God and it's also him. It's a >> you could say it's a cooperation. I I have no issue with what Elijah's ministry is a cooperation. They're working together. It's a partnership. Okay. But with cooperations and partnerships, both parties then get the credit. So Elijah does get credit for doing what he did. He wasn't just lazing around. He was doing what God wanted to do. And so we can all say, "Well done, Elijah." And he can even receive treasures in heaven as a result of that. He can receive a reward for his labor. And just like we can for our labor for the Lord. But Elijah's salvation wasn't dependent upon all his preaching work. Because otherwise, if it was, then he'd get some of the credit. That'd be therefore robbing God some of some of the glory and God doesn't want us to be able to boast in his eyes. So I have no issue if you want to say look our works are God's works. I can agree but that still doesn't negate that they're our works too and that we're cooperating. If we're cooperating then therefore it's not rest. Working alongside is opposite to resting and recognizing someone else has done it. It's like I I've put out a a a picture in the past. I'm not sure if you've seen it where if like you're drowning in the ocean and let's say you're even unconscious and someone just like drags you on board the boat and they'll basically uh the the view I have I think which is the biblical view would be they're not going to say okay now I'll only keep you on the boat if you paddle and help me paddle to the shore. It's you just you wait there I'll take you safely to the shore. But on your view, it would be you're on the boat. You're pulled onto the boat, but you can only remain on the boat if you cooperate with me. And that is paddle and I'll paddle. We'll both paddle together. Work together. Otherwise, I'm throwing you overboard again. So, one's resting and one is working for safety. I guess I think the allegory is incorrect to what Trent says. I think a better allegory would be like a child standing on their father's feet and the father saying, "Stay with me and I'll bring you to the feast. Dance with me and I'll bring you to the feast." And he dances the child on his own feet. So yes, when they get there, he says, "You've you've done a great job, but no one would think that the child like earned the dance or got there on his own." So I don't think that the allegory of the boat is appropriate to what Trent says is what I would say.

>> Yeah. I I think that even with the dancing example because some people different Christians love different works. Some people will abound more in good works than other Christians. Paul said he actually worked harder than all the other apostles in 1 Corinthians chapter 15. It mentions that. So that doesn't mean he's more saved than the other guys, but yet he could still boast in the work that he did. Remember that uh Romans 15 verse 17,

>> it says in Christ Jesus, then I have reason to be proud of my work for God. So because Paul is actually unique in his service, he's doing much more work than all the other apostles, even more than Peter. and he's therefore can be proud of his work. But if his salvation was contingent on this, then it's not all glory to God. It's glory partly to Paul.

>> So then how do you understand Philippians 2:13 and 14?

>> Yeah. Philippians 23-4 says, "For it is God who works in you both to will and to work for his good pleasure."

>> Oh, sorry. 12 and 13.

>> Sorry. Okay. Yeah. 12. Uh, therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence, but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. So, this doesn't say work for your salvation. It doesn't say you've got to do good works to hold on to your salvation. It doesn't say anything like that. It's just saying work out your own salvation. So, you got salvation and now work it out. Do works in accordance with the salvation you've got, but do it with fear and trembling. This is not like terror of going to hell. That's not what it means. Because perfect love casts out fear. First John says this fear and trembling is in the sense of we don't flippantly do our good works. We do them reverently. We do them as to the Lord. Right? You know, even Jesus says, "Whatever you do for the least of these, you do it unto me." or even the instructions to servants in Philippians uh so Colossians 3 was uh that I'll show you Colossians 3 verse 23 whatever you do work hardily as for the Lord and not for men so this is even for like servants they what even serving their masters they should do it as if their master is the Lord do it wholeheartedly reverently so I think that's what we're getting at here with fear and trembling so it's not working I guess I was more

>> I was more uh concentrating on the part work out your salvation and then the part in 13 where it says for it is God who is working in you.

>> Yeah. Absolutely. So God has already begun that work in them and he and Paul says in Philippians 1:6 that he's going to bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. So he's going to keep them to the end. But I agree any good works that I do, I can agree it's God working in me through those good works. But it's also still me doing the good works as well. It's it's both and it's not just God and I'm unconscious and I got no will in this. No desire. It's God, but it's also me working with him to do good works. And he prepared in advance. He's even given me desires to do the good works even. So therefore, I can even be rewarded in heaven for this, but not entry to heaven. That's the difference.

>> But why do you have a problem with entry to heaven being based on something that God does in a person?

>> Yeah. Well, I have no issue with something God does in the person. I have issue with if it's based on our cooperation. If it's I'm I'm on board if it's just all God and not based on our actions, our works for salvation. But if it is God and our cooperation, our works, then I can say, look, I contributed some. I really did do some.

>> So if a if a god gives a child a gift and they unwrap the gift, would that invalidate it being a gift? Well, they are doing work to unwrap the gift, but they already own the gift as soon as they've been given it from the parent.

>> So, they don't need to work out the gift. Or do they?

>> Correct. Correct. The child may choose to just keep the gift forever wrapped. And if they own that gift, they have every right to do to just keep it as they keep it wrapped in their cupboard. Perfectly fine. like you may receive a bicycle, you know, for your for Christmas or something like that. You don't necessarily have to ride it, but you still own a bike,

>> right? And so God in terms of salvation, we don't have to um in terms of gaining or keeping salvation, God's not like, oh, take it away from you unless you go to church every week. But at the same time, he wants us in commands us even to do good works in light of the salvation we have. And so that's why I don't encourage laziness. I say, "No, let's not be lazy. Let's get out there sharing the gospel. Let's go and serve Christ as much as we can." Just not keeping yourself safe. That's the distinction I'm trying to make.

>> Yeah. And I guess I don't think that you're preaching laziness either. The The only one I actually had ever accused or in my mind thought that you were saying was number two. The rest of them I didn't actually think you were saying. If I was to make an actual criticism of what I understood your belief to be, my my criticism would more that it's there's there's too much truncating and meaning going on. That would be my actual criticism. And that would be like the definition of grace, the definition of works, the definition of repentance. I think that those words are being like at best you're using the definition gloss of them at and I guess I could bring up an example because I think you wanted me to bring up an example last time like 1 Corinthians 15:10 would be a good example

>> 1510 let's have a look because I in terms of definitions of words we can go to the Greek lexicons we can see what they say we can see how it's used in scripture and when I when I call grace unmmerited favor I'm That's just the standard scholarly view of what the word grace means. Um or even repent. Metaninoi being a change of mind. Like that's just what the word itself means. And you can even look at contemporary Greek literature at the time to see that's what it means. But let's have a look at this verse that you're asking about. Um but by the grace of God, I am what I am. And his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them. though it was not I but the grace of God that is with me. So what's your point with this verse?

>> My point is that um undeserved kindness wouldn't make sense for the last grace.

>> Actually I think it is because let me let me let me try and interpret. So but by the grace of God so but by God's undeserved kindness I am what I am. I think that makes sense with the verse before. I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle because I persecuted the church of God. Well, so he was a persecutor of the church, but by the undeserved kindness of God, I am what I am. That I think that makes sense. And his undeserved kindness toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them. Though it was not I, but the undeserved kindness of God that is with me. Because I think even us being able to serve Christ is undeserved kindness. I don't deserve the privilege of serving Christ. Remember how the apostles rejoiced that they were suffer for the name of Jesus in the early chapters of acts. They were suffering for Jesus and yet they still thought it as a blessing and a gift to suffer for righteousness sake.

>> I guess my point was that the last grace he's saying that grace is the thing that did the work.

>> Um so yes, the I agree because God empowers us. I I'm on board with God empowering us with every good work. He prepares in advance for us to walk in them. He gives us the strength. But that will be also you going to your secular employment. If you have a job, you go to your secular employment. You only go to your workplace and do your work at your job by the grace of God. I am alive right now only by the grace of God. I'm breathing right now by the gra everything I have is by the grace of God. But still if at the if I go to work at some place and they the boss gives me the pay at the end of the day. Yes, that was by the grace of God but it was also something that I worked for and it's not a gift then it's what's due to me for the work that I've done for the employee for the for the for the boss. So if I'm getting salvation or keeping salvation because of what I've done for God, even if he's empowered me in that, it's really what's due to me and it's not a free gift anymore.

>> I guess I guess I would have said that the better way of reading that verse was that the last grace is actually it's actually the spirit of God that did the work in him. Yeah, I just work harder than anyone.

>> Caris meaning the spirit of God. I don't think the Greek word

>> because the Holy Spirit is a gift from God that's undeserved,

>> but it can but it also is God himself. And so what I'm trying to say and what I think that the Catholic position is because if you look up the definition of what we call sanctifying grace, it is the triune God of life, triune God inside of you. So what we're saying is that sanctifying grace is a state of the soul and it's when God lives inside of you and it is the the um how do I say this the uh if I can say it in a bad way the part of grace which is not a good way to say it that transforms a person and enables a person to do the things which God requires of them. Okay. I I understand that's what the Catholic catechism or definition they may give. I just don't know if that's what that Greek word means. The lexicons don't really seem to define it that way. They've added in I think a lot into that word, which we've I understand that's to maybe fit with Catholic theology, but we got to go with what the text of scripture says.

>> Well, I guess

>> and that's why

>> I guess to speak with definitions, the problem with definitions is they are themselves inferred from the text. Like you can't give me a chapter and verse that says grace means this or works means this or repentance means this.

>> Yes. So

>> we're inferring it from the usage in the passage

>> and in to to get those base

building blocks for our theology. If we're taking it from a lexicon and you're taking it from, I don't know, probably a Protestant one, probably the BDAG one is the most common Protestant one that exists, they're going to have

uniquely Protestant. By the way, that's more just in the scholarly world. Whether it's Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, that's basically the standard text.

Yes, go to. But even what I'm trying to say is, even if you look up different lexicons of grace, they aren't necessarily going to say that all that it means is undeserved kindness. Like, even like Bill Mounts, who's a pretty, like, well-known uh, Greek scholar, even his own dictionary doesn't necessarily say that grace is just undeserved kindness. And the, and the problem is, is that we simplify it down when we have to have a short conversation with a person when we're evangelizing them. But if we shorten that down and we build our whole theology off of the shortened version of the word, we end up coming to a theology that I don't think is replete enough.

It just doesn't. I just, all the uses, I don't think you'll get anywhere or any scholar who would say that grace means the spirit.

But I, you would say the Holy Spirit is a gift, right? And it's undeserved gift, kindness.

But just like, just like salvation is a gift. Does that mean like, everything my food I'm eating is a gift from God? But that doesn't mean that my food, I would say, is equal to grace.

Yes.

I, I receive it by grace, but that doesn't mean spaghetti equals grace. You know what I mean?

Well, I would say it does. It is a kind of grace. It's a kind we would call it providence, but there's Protestant groups that call it common grace. The whole thing is, there's a kind of grace that a Christian gets that actually enables the Christian, uh, to do, um, what God is asking them to do. And that is what I'm, what I'm trying to get at.

I think I actually think this discussion though is still a side point. It's not really actually dealing with the main difference, right? The main difference is what you, what we started on, and that is, is it rest in Christ where he does all the works? It's not based on my cooperation, or is it, what you're saying, my cooperation definitely does play a big part. My obedience, my works, my voiding sin does play a big part in why I'm going to heaven. That's, I think the key difference between the Roman Catholic and the Protestant viewpoint. And I think your viewpoint would give someone a reason to boast. Our viewpoint would give a person no reason to boast because it's not our cooperation because cooperation means to work alongside. So, if I've, if you're doing a task, uh, let's say a group project at university, and you're doing half of the work, and then I'm doing the other half of the work. Well, at the end of the day, when the marks come out, we can both say well done to each other. You did well. You did well because we both did the work needed. Um, compared to if one person did all the work and the other person didn't do anything, then only one person gets all the, deserves all the credit. But if it's a cooperation thing, then both parties get the credit.

Well, I mean, I guess I don't necessarily agree with that, but that might be have to do with your definition of cooperation. But I guess as far as the rest thing goes, um, I think that there are things that Catholics say we can rest in. I think if you look in Trent, if you look at what, chapter nine, where it talks about certainty of faith, you'll also find a phrase that says, "No pious person ought to doubt." And the things that it says after that are things that a Christian and a Catholic can definitely rest in. And so, I, I think it's a little bit of a, a truncating in meaning to say that there's no rest for the Catholic, or that when we have mortal sin, we're always scared that we're going to go to hell because that's not even what Trent teaches.

Okay, so Trent does teach this. No one can be, no one can know with a certainty of faith, which cannot be subject to error, that he has obtained the grace of God.

Yes. But if you look above there.

If you, I can be like, I can know with a certainty of faith that I have obtained the grace of God. So I would say this is, I hold to direct opposite position that Trent holds to here, the council.

Yes. But, but look at what it says above it where it says no pious person ought to doubt, right above that.

But yeah, but no, but what does this mean? What do you think this phrase or sentence here is referring to?

The only thing that that can mean in context because of what it says above is that that's talking about an infallible certitude that a Christian thinks that they have. You cannot have an infallible.

Which is what is.

Well, no, you can be, you can be certain of things. You can have a certain kind of certitude. You can't have infallible certainty. That's what they're saying. Let's go check what you're referring to in regards to this doubt because have a look. It doesn't say doubt whether you're saved or not. I think you've misread it here. I'll show you the quotation. So, this is from chapter nine. I'll make it a little bit bigger for us all here. It says here, "For as no pious person ought to doubt the mercy of God, the merit of Christ, and the virtue and efficacy of the sacraments, so each one when he considers himself in his own weakness, and in in disposition may have fear and apprehension concerning his own grace, since no one can know with the certainty of faith, which cannot be subject to error, that he has obtained the grace of God."

This is the point. This, I would disagree completely with this sentence, this whole, this whole paragraph here, right? Because they are doubting the mercy of God, the merit of Christ, by thinking receiving that mercy and keeping that mercy is contingent on your continued participation in the sacraments and your avoiding of mortal sin. That's why it brings up your own weakness and in disposition. My salvation doesn't depend on my weakness. I know that when I am weak, he is strong. He keeps me all the way to the end. But because Rome makes your salvation contingent on your obedience, continued obedience, that's why you can't be sure that you've obtained the grace of God.

Well, wait, but I think all you're not really disagreeing that it's talking about infallible certitude there because it says you're just saying that you think that the sentence is contradicting itself.

No, what I'm saying is that they, when they talk about mercy, and Muslims talk about mercy as well. They just make mercy contingent on doing more good things or bad things. I think Rome does a similar thing in a sense of they say mercy and merit of Christ, but they make it contingent on your continued obedience. Hence why you can't know. But as soon as you get rid of the, it's based on your obedience part to keep salvation, then you can know. I can know with complete certainty I'm going to heaven. Complete certainty because it's based on Christ, and Christ cannot break a promise. He's promised me eternal life.

I do want to give a chance for others to come up as well. But I appreciate, um, this conversation, Kurt. It's good to talk with you. My prayer is that, yeah, you trust in Christ alone. God bless you, man.

Yeah.

Yeah. I appreciate him coming up and keep him in your prayers. Keep him in your prayers if you can, ladies and gentlemen. That'd be great if hopefully some of these conversations just will kind of put all the puzzle pieces together to be like, "Okay, I'd love to have like, hopefully he's thinking, I would love to have that certainty that all those people in the chat there, Nico.net, have the certainty they're going to heaven that they've got the grace of God." You just got to remove the obedience part as what your salvation's dependent upon. Yes, we're obedient. We seek to be obedient. Just remove that part as what's actually getting you into heaven. So hopefully it's helpful. A few people waiting. Let's try to get through as many as we can. Uh, let's go to the counterdocs. Welcome.

Hey, how's it going, Ryan?

Hey man, good to have you here. Yeah. What, what, what would you like to ask today?

Yeah, I would just like to ask you, why do we, uh, why do we need to trust in your interpretation of the scriptures?

Trust in my interpretation? I, I don't think you need to trust in my interpretation of the scriptures. I'm just saying you should trust what the scripture has to say. And, um, I can help explain it, but obviously I'm not the ultimate authority. God's the ultimate authority. The scriptures are the standards. So go and check the scriptures to what it says. And if someone says that that's just your interpretation, I'll say, "Well, I think it actually fits best with the text." And if you disagree with my interpretation, show me from the text why you think I'm wrong. Don't just say, "Oh, it's your interpretation. Therefore, dismiss it." But if my interpretation does fit with the best, best with the text, then you're ought to believe it.

Okay. Well, that's still up to interpretation. So, you have a vicious circle there.

That's how, that's how text works, man. Whenever you read anything, even right now, I'm having to interpret you. Why should I trust my interpretation of your sentences that you just said? Just how language works. We just interpret each other's words, man.

Thing is, I'm actually willing to explain to you what I'm talking about.

But then I have to interpret that explanation, man. How do I know what your explanation is? Like.

Either way, I'm having to interpret.

I'm willing to explain it to you. And.

But then I have to interpret that.

To a certain point.

No, every piece of text has to be interpreted. It's impossible. You, language only works based on interpretation.

So you don't believe in.

By that standard, there's no objective truth.

No, there's objective truth. 100% there's objective truth.

You always need to interpret it. So you never know.

You're assuming interpretation must mean that therefore we can't know what is true. That's not what I think. I can hear your sentence. You could hear a sentence I'm speaking and you could interpret, we could interpret each other.

Correctly in our sentences.

That doesn't mean that therefore we're infallible.

Right?

But we can still interpret it correct and it still means there's objective truth.

Okay, then how do we know that through your interpretation of the scriptures?

By checking the scriptures ourselves to see, okay, let's go to the scriptures, see what it says. Interpret it in light of the rest of scripture, reading it in context. And so, yeah, in fact, in scripture, where there's nothing in scripture that would forbid us from reading the Bible ourselves.

Okay. Well.

You agree with that?

I don't actually. So.

You think we shouldn't read the Bible?

What is interesting is that, um, so let me ask you this. If, if we both exist in the year 800, how, if, if we both profess to be Christians, what we, what will we be practicing in the year 800?

Well, it's going to be different because in every generation, you can have some of those, even today amongst Christian churches. This would be every generation, but even today, you've got a mixture of beliefs amongst professing Christians. You got some who are extremely liberal, some who believe in like the rainbow things, um, LGBT stuff. You've got others who are much more conservative. Um, even if you look at the church fathers, they interpreted things differently. Cyril of Alexandria, what believed that the first sin wasn't actually eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. It was sexual temptation.

Okay. But the, here's the thing. The standard that a church operated on back then is based on councils. Okay. They don't profess dogma or teachings based on single church fathers. Every single church father who does writings, they submit it to for the review of the church. That's different from people like you and I interpreting the scriptures ourselves. And also, you still haven't answered the question. In the year 800, if you and I are both Christians, what would we be doing as Christians to practice our faith?

Well, I'd be putting my trust in Jesus. I would trust that he paid for my sins. I'd be 100% sure I'm going to heaven. I'd be seeking to flee from sin. I'd be seeking to share his gospel with the lost.

I'd be seeking to produce the fruit of the spirit. All those different things. I think just as a Christian in the 21st century can be doing.

Where will you be getting all those knowledge from? Well, thankfully we got God's word. We can go to what God's, God's word says. Uh, even Timothy, we see Paul talking to Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:15.

And how from childhood you've been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. So, if the Lord saw fit to, um, allow me, you know, if the Lord saw fit to save me and give me access to a Bible, then I'd be reading the sacred writings, reading the Bible to see what it says and living in accordance with every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, as Jesus tells us to do.

Okay. So, but in the 800s, 700s, most people didn't read anything. How would you read the Bible?

What I, I would dispute that nobody could read anything.

I didn't say nobody could read. I said, "Most people couldn't read."

Okay. And what's that got to do with anything? Even if that was the case.

They couldn't read. They could get someone else to read it out to them. They could devote themselves to the public reading of scripture as Paul says to Timothy.

And who is that someone else?

Yeah, they could get anyone. If anyone has access, maybe there's a potentially a rich person in an area and they could read out the Bible to the community, to me, to whoever, and we could just live by every word that precedes in the mouth of God. But you still haven't proven from scripture, by the way, that you, that we're not allowed to read the Bible ourselves. Where on earth does the Bible tell us that?

Right? But during the, again, during that, those centuries, you will go look for in public who read, who would read the Bible to you. But.

Who were usually those people? Because it did happen. And I just want you to.

Just, just wait. Just wait. Hold up. Do you have any evidence that we're not allowed to read the Bible, man? Cuz that's your assertion. That is a terrible ass. You think we're not allowed to read the Bible?

According to my interpretation, that's what it's talking about. That it's talking about you're not, uh, the scriptures are not up for private interpretation.

Where, where does, where does it say that we are not allowed to read the Bible ourselves?

It doesn't, man. But you don't read the Bible, man. Is that what you're saying?

No, I, I'll find the word for you.

Oh, but you're not allowed to read the Bible. How dare you? Apparently, if we're not allowed to read the Bible ourselves, you're about to like privately interpret it.

I mean, but they, but yeah, but you're right. But the problem is.

You're being a hypocrite then.

People back then didn't do that. Literally, the very thing you said, the people back in history didn't do that, yet they're still Christians. So, I was asking you, can you give me any verse in the Bible that says we're not allowed to read the Bible for ourselves?

Well, that's not what, that's not what I'm.

Okay. So, then, then are we, I said we're allowed to go read the Bible ourselves. I said there's no, I said there's nothing in scripture that prevents us from going and reading the Bible ourselves, and you said you disagree. So, can you provide me any evidence to say where God says you're not go allowed to go and read the Bible?

Sure. If I provide you the evidence right now, would you take my interpretation for it?

Well, hold up. But you, but if you disagree, you're not actually allowed to go to the Bible then cuz you're reading the Bible by yourself.

No, I can go to the Bible and show you that.

But wait, wait up. But that's you reading the Bible for yourself, man. You're being hypocritical.

You're the one. But again, the question is on whose interpretation is correct.

No, but are we allowed to go and read the Bible for ourselves? That was the, the point. I said there's nothing in scripture saying we're not allowed to read the Bible.

Though. To do what though?

Okay. Okay. So, so, okay, you're backing down from your position. So we are allowed to read the Bible for, for ourselves, even by ourselves. Correct.

I never said that.

So we are allowed to do that. You don't disagree with me anymore on that point.

What does that mean? Like read the Bible.

I'm just checking. I'm just checking that you've conceded on that point. Okay. So you're saying now, how do we interpret it? So, in terms of, you're, you're probably thinking of second Peter chapter 1, but what are you, how do you know what the right interpretation is of any verse in the Bible?

How do you.

Because councils haven't gone through it and explained what every verse is. So, how would you interpret it if you're not allowed to interpret it yourself?

Uh, through the church's guidance.

But what the coun, you're talking about councils before councils haven't interpreted all the verses. So, how would you know?

Not everything needs to be go through the councils. So then when, how do you know that, who you going to go to then to find out what is the correct interpretation?

From the priest, from the bishops, from.

And what if they, what if bishops and priests disagree with each other?

Uh, who you hold on to.

But they do. Even that's why we find, even that's why I gave the examples, even church fathers, the most respected church fathers that you'd probably hold on to, they disagree with each other on interpretations of passages. And so if you don't have a council that dealt with the interpretation of passages.

Who you going pick? That church father or that one? That priest or that bishop, that patriarch, or that patriarch? Because he's even patriarchs to disagree with each other on different things.

They can, again, so they're not, we don't have the view that all scriptures are equal. I know you do. But, uh, so there are areas that are open up for discussion, but on the main doctrines according, for example, uh, gospel and stuff like that, they don't disagree. And the church.

Father, as in who doesn't disagree?

Most of them don't disagree with each other.

Who, about the priests of the Orthodox church?

But there are, I've even had even practical examples of.

One or.

I'm aware.

Right. So, so then if you have disagreements, one Eastern Orthodox priest says online debating is always sinful. Another one says it's not always sinful.

Who's right out of those two?

Yeah.

Contradicting each other.

Yeah. So again, that is spiritual guidance to certain people. That's not dogma. It's either sinful or it's not sinful. So, what should I go with? Which guy? That, that priest out of the Eastern Orthodox Church, or that priest who's also part of the Eastern Orthodox Church?

I know one priest who says online debates are sinful.

Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Mario, he he had a debate. You very well known, um, Orthodox Eastern Orthodox, um, he did online debating. Mario, you might know him on X. Um, he was he had scheduled debates and then as a result, um, his priest said I'm not allowed to do it. He had to cancel his upcoming debates because my Eastern, he said, my Eastern Orthodox priest says I'm not allowed to do it anymore. He had to cancel it and he had other Eastern Orthodox people in the chat saying, well, my priest says it's okay. And so there's a division. There's not youth church, man.

So you again, you said the priest said it's sinful. He never said it's sinful. He just told the, the kid not to do it. That's not.

Because it's sinful. He said it's because it's sinful.

Show me where to, he said he was sinful. Again, look at this. It's like you don't even really know what I was talking about specifically. You haven't even read these specific quotations and you're making, then you're like, "Who didn't say that?" And like, "I haven't read it myself, but he didn't say it."

Dude, the online debates are specific.

Okay, but if, if. Hold up. But do you see the irrational nature of your, your argumentation? You've never read it yourself, but you're like, "He didn't say it. He didn't say it. I'm asking you to show it."

She literally just said he didn't say that it's sinful. You literally just said that a moment ago. You can go 10, you can go back two minutes and see that.

But man.

But the problem is, who, who do you go to to interpret any passage? So you're even, you're priest. You're part of an Eastern Orthodox church. Are you a catechumen or are you part of it?

I'm not a catechumen, but yeah. Go.

Okay. So you're actually baptized member of the Eastern Orthodox church.

Sure. Yes.

Yeah. Okay. So if you are to read through any passage of scripture, probably not even your priest or your bishop has written a commentary in every single verse that you're going to read in the Bible.

Mhm.

So then how are you going to know what to do and understand if you're not allowed to really interpret it yourself?

Again, through the guidance and tradition kept by the church. Interpretations.

From.

So are you meaning you have to call up your priest? Hey priest, I can't read this unless you tell me what it means.

No, we do read the scriptures, but based on the guidance of the church.

Okay. But whose guidance? If your priest and your bishops haven't read a wrote a study Bible, a commentary on every verse, whose guidance you going to go to, man?

Why is that the category that they need to have to be able to teach people how to read the Bible? They need a commentary on every verse.

Well, if you're telling us that we're not allowed to actually interpret it ourselves, and we need their commentary to tell us what it means.

Are we actually allowed to interpret it? But you're not, because you're outside of the church.

Ah. Ah. Okay. Chapter or verse. Where does it say that if you're outside the Eastern Orthodox Church, you're not allowed to interpret the Bible yourself?

Do you think they really need to say that? It's, you don't think it's common sense for people who are outside of the church to take a document of the church and interpret it and to teach what they think they want to teach? You don't think that? When Paul wrote his letters, when any of any of scripture.

They weren't saying, "Look, only those people who are members of our particular church is allowed to read this letter. No one else is allowed to read it."

In fact, we see it being spread around. Paul, he said like, "Have this letter read and later see, have it read." They wanted the word of God to go out to more and more people. It's like you want to hide the word from people.

No, I don't. They.

The apostles want to proclaim it.

Members of the church though, he preached and he baptized them. He made them part of the church.

And so what about the people when they, when Paul went to say Berea in Acts 17?

We see that he would proclaim Jesus, proving from the Old Testament. He would often prove from the Old Testament that Jesus is the Christ and stuff like that when he's amongst Jewish audience and different audiences.

And these aren't baptized members of the church. And yet he's encouraging them even to go to the scriptures. He, he's commending them for that.

Mhm. For, for searching the scriptures daily to see whether what Paul's saying is right. And these are not baptized members of the church. And so, yet, was that wrong?

Uh, they're, well, actually, that's not a fair, uh, I don't believe that's a fair characterization of what that was because they, these people were, you said they were Jews. So they were people who had the, uh, the authorities from the Old Test, uh, from the Old Covenant. He was trying to debate them.

But they were have reading the scriptures and he was commending them for that. And yet they weren't members of the Orthodox church. So are people allowed to read the Old Testament scriptures.

By themselves?

You can debate people, just like I'm debating you now. That has nothing to do with reading. You understand the reason why I asked you is that I understand.

Why would he commend them? Why would he commend them for write, for reading, checking the scriptures?

What, what do you mean by reading the scripture? Are you saying that reading the scripture is studying the scripture, or are you saying reading scripture is interpreting it in a way that you want it to sound or teach? That's two different things.

So every text that you read, you've got to interpret.

Sure.

Understand? And I think we've got to interpret in light of what the rest of scripture says. Consistency is key. And I think there's nothing, you haven't presented anything in the Bible that would prevent us from reading the Bible. It doesn't say you got to be a member of the Eastern Orthodox Church to go read the Bible and interpret it. And so I'm going to go with the word of God, which says live by every word that comes from the mouth of God. And in scripture, it teaches us very clearly about, you know, how to be saved, how to go to heaven, peace with God, all those sort of things. And this is what I make my ministry about. My ministry is about proclaiming to people about how they can have peace with God and go to heaven because I don't want people to end up in hell. That would be a terrible place for them to go to.

So for yourself, for yourself, my question is.

Do you think that you have peace with God? And do you think that you're going to heaven 100%.

Okay. So, I'm going to respond to what you said and I want to clarify this to Becca in the chat too, because I never said that only people in the church can read the Bible. I said to teach the Bible like Ryan doing, Ryan is doing. That is a different thing.

Keep changing the story, man. And also.

You really keep changing inconsistent. Said that we're inter, I have to, you wanted me to show you from the scriptures where it says certain things. So my question to you is, according to what? According to who? And why does it have to be from the scriptures?

Well, that's what I'm asking. My comment was there's nothing in the scripture that prevents us from reading the Bible for ourselves. And you said you disagreed.

I think you've now considered that point.

Um, and so because we're called to go and live by every word that proceeds in the mouth of God, and I would hold to the Bible as being the word of God, then that means I'm going to go to the Bible to find out what it has to say.

So my question for you is, do you have peace with God? Are you 100% sure you're going to heaven? Do you know what a circular fallacy is?

Okay, but just, can you answer my question? Do you have peace of God and are you 100% sure?

We're not done with the previous point yet, so we're not moving on.

Hold up. Hold up. You don't dictate the terms of coming up for a viewer chat, my friend.

You're not going to genuinely show respectation. Show respect.

All right, let's not be dishonest. You've come up for and you've complied, agree with the viewer rules. So, I want to ask you, and because I want to give a chance for other people to come up as well, to show respect. Do you have peace with God? And are you 100% sure you're going to heaven? Why is that the correct category?

I'm just asking. Tell me what your thoughts like. Do you think? Well, because the Bible speaks about peace with God. And so I'm using categories the Bible uses. And so, yeah, do you, you think you have peace with God? Are you going to heaven or are you going to hell?

How do you know that your interpretation of quote peace of God or whatever you think he guarantees you is correct?

So do you have it? Do you have that, whatever Paul spoke about there in Romans 5:1? Do you have peace with God? We disagree on the meaning of that. So I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm not going to under answer that question until we.

So you are going to be not willing to answer a question about how do we have peace with God? How do we go to heaven?

That's my question either. So.

Yeah, if you want to be childish, that's unfortunate. Um, I was hoping that it's interesting. But it's, it's really interesting though that, like some Eastern Orthodox people, you can have a respectful conversation with, but unfortunately, you don't seem to be one of those people. I would love to have a respectful conversation with you, man, but honestly, dude, answer the question. These are pretty basic questions. You want to talk like, even this, do it. So, it's.

Maybe let me, let me just ask you this. If, if someone comes up and says, "What must I do to be saved?" What would you say to them?

Yeah, that's not what I'm here to discuss.

Unfortunate. It's the most important thing that you don't want to talk about.

I mean, you don't.

That's what he's an Orthodox doing to you, man. You're not willing to answer a simple basic question. What must I do?

Understand what a basic fallacy is.

The very question that was asked to Paul and Silas. Do you remember what their answer was?

I, I didn't watch that part of your stream.

Okay.

I'm here, I'm here to debate you. I'm not here to watch.

It's not part of, it's not part of the stream, my friend. This is part of the Bible.

Oh.

Paul and Silas were asked the question, "What must I do to be saved?"

But are you going to answer the question or are you going to keep asking? Do you remember what their, do you remember what the answer was?

You going to answer my question?

So, you're saying you don't, you've, you've never read that before? Do you know the answer?

I'm not going to allow this conversation to go on until you answer my question. Do you know what a circular fallacy is?

Look at that. Childish behavior right there. Eastern Orthodoxy doesn't, they don't love the truth, do they? So often, I don't want to answer something as simple as a biblical question. What must I do to be saved? What do they want to do? Oh, we want to talk about logical fallacies and this. See, it's unfortunate this whole, even or bro culture doesn't breed godliness, doesn't breed holiness, politeness, courtesy, respect. It's like, I want to debate you. I want to do this. Hold up. It should be a pursuit of truth. And we, we as Christians should be on about how do I get saved? How do I go to heaven? Eastern Orthodox people so often, no, they don't want to talk about that because, one, they don't know the Bible. They don't know the Bible. That's revealing. Most of the time they don't know the Bible. But secondly, they don't have a solution to how to get saved. Their view is just live life in the church, do this, do good things, do that, be obedient. And that's not the message. That's not the answer that Paul answered when he was asked that question. What must I do to be saved? Seems like this guy didn't even wasn't even familiar with that part of the Bible, which is tragic. Tragic. Acts 16:30, Paul answers that question so clearly. Have a look. Bring it up and see if he tells us live life in the church. Be good. Do be obedient. Let's have a look. So, what must I do to be saved? And they said, this is Paul and Silas, believe in the Lord Jesus and you'll be saved. That was their answer. Believe in the Lord Jesus and you'll be saved. It's not get baptized, do enough good works, live a holy enough life. Believe in Christ. That's the way of salvation because he's paid the price. We should be in hell for our sins, but Christ delivers us from the wrath to come through his perfect sacrifice. We put our trust in him, we'll be saved. And so, let's pray for that man. Heavenly Father, we pray for that. He's an Orthodox gentleman. Lord, we pray that you'd soften his heart. May he see that he desperately needs peace with God. May he go and read the Bible for himself. Find out what it says so that he can be saved. May he put his trust in Jesus. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. All right. There's a super chat from Cozy. I'm burning with righteous anger, Cozy says, but you stood your ground, Ryan. God bless you. Yeah, I was trying to be respectful, courteous to him. But they want to come into people's streams and not like actually like show courtesy and recognize someone's a host like I'm going to do what I want. I'm not going to answer your questions. That's not. That's like coming into barging into someone's house, doing a home invasion, or even someone's house saying, "I'm going to do what I want. I'm going to take everything in your kitchen, move it over here." You don't dare do that. That's would be evil. That would be wrong. And so to come on down to someone else's stream, say, "I'm not going to answer your questions. I'm going to set the terms." That's childish behavior. Ungodly childish behavior. Even when he agreed that he would respect the viewer rules, which you list in the description. Sad, tragic. Anyway, all right. Let's bring up Kelly. Welcome, Kelly. Kelly Powers. Good to see you, bro.

I didn't think I'd make it. How you doing, Ryan?

Doing well. Good to have you here.

Good. I was looking for that.

I've been good. I've been good, man. I thought I'd come and say hi. It's been a little while and.

Had a few questions I want to ask you, but that last conversation, man, that was, uh.

That was rough. There's no doubt about that. Uh, you know, I was thinking as you were talking, Ryan, like.

He's asking the question, where does the Bible give us that, you know, the ability to teach? And, you know, you brought up second Timothy 3 where he's talking to Paul. The scriptures give us wisdom. They give us to have faith in scriptures profitable for teaching, correction, rebuking. Second Timothy 4 talks about preach the word, be ready in season, out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with great patient instruction. Right? The time will come when people will not want to hear the truth, but they'll have tickling ears. And boy, we got a lot of that going on today. But it's interesting in in second Timothy chapter 2, the same scripture that says when Paul says, "Study to show yourself approved, a workman not ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth," the scriptures, right? So we, so we're commended. You, you brought up very good points, right? But in verse two, Paul says this, "The things which you've heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, entrust these to faithful men who will what? Be able to teach others also." This doesn't mean that they were apostles. They weren't bishops. They weren't people who walked on water and leaped over buildings. These were Christians, faithful men of God. So we're given, you know, guidance, you know, not any old Joe blow should be out, but people who are like say Stephen in the book of Acts chapter 6, a man who was full of the Holy Spirit, Philip, who was an evangelist. Not everybody has the gift of teaching, but like you rightly said, I just need to get this off my chest because I was sitting there bursting.

I know it's the scripture gives us. I mean, Paul, like you brought back 17:11, that there was no debate going on. Actually says they were receiving the word with great eagerness. There was no debate. And then it says they searched the scriptures daily to see whether things were so. Unlike the previous verses, they were debating them in those verses.

Even the Great Commission, like go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And it says, teaching them to observe all that I've commanded you. Now notice this. Yeah, initially this was given to the twelve apostles. Notice this last command, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you, which would include then this command of teaching is then given to every Christian. Every Christian that we as Christians are to go and make disciples and we are to then.

Teach them the truth. And so to say that, oh, certain people, no, you can't, you can't. He initially was saying you can't read the Bible for yourself, and then he changed it to, okay, maybe you just can't teach the Bible. But even under his view, if he's only just a member of the Eastern Orthodox Church, he wouldn't even have the authority to teach under his own view. And yet he's coming on here like to influence, teach.

You know, he, he sounds, I don't want to be insulting, but he sounded like a Jay Dyer like robot. Like.

His voice even sounded like Jay Dyer. Like I was sitting there going.

If I closed my eyes.

I'm almost visualizing hearing Jay Dyer right now. That's what it sounded like to me.

That's funny.

Um, well, I know you probably got some other people. I'll be really quick. I got a couple questions I'd love to ask you. Um, just kind of have fun with you. Good chatting with you. So, it's part one, part two question. So, what do you believe is the greatest lie that Christians believe today? That's part number one. Part number two would be, what do you believe the greatest lie could be that non-Christians believe today? Now, this, I know you could probably change your answer next week, but off the top of your head, what do you think is probably one of the biggest lies Christians believe today?

If we're talking about just professing Christians.

Yeah.

Then I would say that good works and obedience and those sort of things is what gets you to heaven. That's probably the most common thing we encounter. Most, I say about 90% of professing Christians trust in a faith and works form of gospel, which is unfortunate. That's the biggest lie that people believe because that's not going to save them.

Um, in terms of non-Christians, what is the biggest lie they could believe? Is there a question?

Yeah.

Or they do believe.

Yeah. Could believe or do believe, you, however you want to word it.

Okay.

I wrote it down. What is the greatest lie non-Christians believe today? That's how I wrote my question.

Yeah, I think it would be the idea that heaven is for good people. Um, heaven is for those who have to meet a certain standard of goodness and then God will accept them. That's probably the most common idea I find from those who don't even profess to be Christians.

Yeah, I think I'd be on the same page with you too. I think a lot of times Christians today, they don't really understand what it really means to be saved by grace through faith, the gift of God. And even like earlier, you're pointing to Romans 5 about being justified by faith. We now have peace with God. I mean, like it starts out by faith, of course, and then now there's this process that we're being transformed, we're growing, we're being sanctified, but the whole process is all be by faith. And we're saved by grace, not of ourselves. And I think a lot of times Christians today, they're, they're what you do very often in your channel, which is so very good. Obviously, it's unique that we don't see a lot of channels doing this, is you really get to the heart of what the gospel is about. And a lot of people today, you know, they may really be saved, but they've been deceived. They think they got to do this, they got to do that. They're putting their trust in their effort. They're putting their trust in whatever church they may be a part of, you know, whatever it may be. And I think it kind of comes back to this too, is that the whole focus, what my channel, Brian Perspective, what you do, is getting back to the Bible, right? Getting back to the Bible, reading the Bible, being familiar with it. You don't have to know everything. Like I, there's a lot of things about the Bible I don't know, but.

Getting a good foundation and grasp so that when you got a person like this other guy who comes along is asking all these bizarre questions. Um, we got a good, you know, foundation. It's funny because, you know, like you look, you, you brought up some very good points. Church history. Lots of church fathers didn't always agree. Um, even within, um, certain Orthodox, um, bishops, they don't always agree. Same thing with different popes. Different popes have different things. I remember listening, um, a couple years ago, Ryan, I wish I would have had the clip next. I don't know which, like actual video it was, but I was listening to, uh, Father Peter Hers, you know, the Orthodox guy, and he actually said that no one can properly interpret the Bible without the church fathers.

Wow. Yeah.

So you have to have the church fathers to be able to properly interpret the Bible. But think how bad that logic is, right? Because which church father is there a list of the Holy Spirit guided church fathers that are, you know, all the ones we're supposed to go to? Like it's just really bad. And so I think a lot of people like, you know, um, second Timothy 4, people are just being tossed or, you know, tickling ears, um, all over the place. And if they're not rooted in God's word, it's so easy to fall for a lie.

That's so true. That's why I think Satan wants to get people away from the Bible to focus on other ideas, other voices. There's a lot of voices out there, but the voices aren't grounded in the truth and of God's word, that's going to be a problem. And so, that's what we see in the Garden of Eden. Did God really say, Eve, that you shouldn't eat? Questioning God's word right there. And so, if you can get somebody, it's what the Eastern Orthodox tragedy is. Did God really say that? How do you know you've really interpret it? You got to listen to us instead. That's it. Doing exactly what Satan did in the serpent in the garden. But God, God's word is not unclear. Sure, there are hard things in there. But the, it's also very clear on the main things, even how to be saved. It's not a vague thing. What does it mean to have peace with God? It's a very clear thing. And he says by faith, so that even a child, a little child can go read the Bible and understand Jesus died for me. I'm going to heaven because of him.

Amen. And yet it's still profound enough that you can spend your entire life reading the Bible and still learn more stuff from it. That's how amazing scripture is.

Amen. That too. One more fun question for you before I go. Great chatting with you. This is a ministry evangelism thing because I've, I've done back in the day, I used to do lots.

Of street witnessing back in the the 90s and early 2000s, and then I kind of, I won't lie, just got kind of a little bit other things focused for a time. But now I've kind of been rejuvenated and I've been doing lots of street evangelism last year and this year. My other channel is called Street Talk Hours, and so it's been some new stuff I've been doing.

But you do lots of like trips. You go to, I see you do things in the Philippines. When you first start out years ago, how did you kind of start out? Like, what was like, like, what what got you kind of going and how did you, over time? Of course, we know the answer is God, but how did you over time build a team? I'm just kind of like, I'm in the stage out here where I live in Vancouver now, >> and I'm wanting to slowly build a team out here, get connected with other Christians. So I thought, you know, I just want to ask Ryan because this is stuff you've been doing for a little bit. >> Yeah, good question.

So, yeah, I started 20 years ago. The benefit was 20 years ago when I first encountered, um, like some of our comfort materials that was really helpful in giving me some back, um, foundation on how to share, like using the law and stuff like that. And then I found out there was actually already some Christians that were doing some evangelism in my city. So I'm like, I'm going to join in with them. And I then started joining every Saturday night and kept going. Loved it so much. Kept going every single week since then. But then started branching out to other times or other locations.

So if you want to build a team, I would say consistency is key. Let, let it be a regular thing. Not just every now and again you go out and people just don't know when you're going to be out, but you've got a consistent time so people can know, oh, I'm going to maybe schedule this in my calendar. I'll be out there. And that also helps you to be more consistent in going out. So you're like, even if I don't feel like it, I'm still going to do it anyway because I'm committed. I'm going to be out between this time and this time. Um, and then you'll run into Christians, I think, on the street sometimes and they may, you can encourage them, hey, why not join us? And that's what that's how we grow our team quite a lot on the streets is people like we're witnessing to them and they're like >> um, they might say, can I help you? Or we might suggest to them and they might join us for next, you know, next week and things like that. So that, that's good. >> Um, or yeah, if there's other ways of just getting contact with Christians in local churches because I find in churches, most Christians don't won't be comfortable in doing street evangelism, unfortunately. >> Um, it's just people why differently. It's the fear factor as well. All that kind of stuff. And so there's no judgment on them. >> But there will be in good churches, at least probably a few individuals that are willing. And so I recommend not just saying, I'll do it with just my church, but I encourage broadening out saying, I'm w I'm going to welcome anyone who's solid on the gospel, you can join me out. And that's what we do. So our street team that we do every Saturday and Sunday nights from people from all different churches. >> Nice. >> Got different churches represented. >> And so kind of casting that wider allow you to build a team.

>> Well, that's kind of the path right going on. So, that's kind of good cuz when I've been doing some street witnessing here lately, I've actually had Christians approach me lately cuz I have a sign, Big John 3:16 sign. I've got a camera strapped to my chest and a microphone in my hand. I'm going out solo, but I've had the last couple times Christians actually come up to me. Hey, I'm a Christian. I love what you, you know, great to see you out here. You know, can I get your contact? I had two ladies approach me this last, um, this last week and they were Christians. They were handing. So, no lie, they were handing out tracts. You're going to smile. All right. You make sure you're not driving anybody. You're sitting down, Ryan. Are you ready? >> They handed me a Christian tract. I gave them a Christian tract. Mine was Billy Graham. So, now I I got to repent, apparently. But I turned the tract around and it said, "Needed God." >> Yes. >> It was a tract from your ministry. I was like, >> check that out. Like these nice ladies are out here and they're handing out these tracts. So, they got my contact information and there's actually a group of about 95 people, Christians around the Vancouver area that work kind of different spots. And so, now I'm on this so-called, you know, I'm on this not so-called, but I'm on this WhatsApp like team, whatever. And now I'm getting to know other Christians and I've been a part of a certain church for a little while and I've been speaking with the pastor and we're going to start doing some ministry outreach as well. So, you're right. So just branching out. So slowly some of what you just said is starting to come together.

>> That's so good. And yeah, you can get some of these tracks from our website, by the way. We send them out for free. People, you just cover the shipping. We'll send them out to you for free. >> But yeah, the the tracks are really helpful, colorful, and things like that. But that's encouraging. Wow. You met some people handing out. >> I just I just I was smiling going, that's just that was funny. That was cool. That was cool. >> Yeah. >> Oh wow. God is good. Hey, thanks for coming up, Kelly. It's been I'm encouraged that you're getting back into street evangelism. That's really good. And yeah, >> it's fun. I'm talking to Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm talked to some missionaries the other day. I'm talking to atheists. I'm talking to Muslims. I've got a bunch of stuff that I still haven't even uploaded on my other channel yet. So, it's, you know, when you get out there and you're actually, like you said, I because I've taught in churches for over the years, apologetics and whatever. And, um, normally it's two things that keep people from doing evangelism. Number one, fear, right? Fear of not knowing, you know, what to say. And then fear of lack of knowledge, right? >> Normally, that's what keeps people from not wanting to do it. But once you get out there >> and you actually just start talking to people and realize they're just normal people. They're not like this last guy that was on here a little while ago. They're not like that. Most people will have a conversation with you. Some people will be rude. Some people might get in your face, but most people >> most people, I've learned, are actually open to a conversation. And when they, I just give me two minutes. I was talking to a guy last week. He was a total atheist. He was out there. There was a guy down the street who had a big, you know, he had a speaker and a microphone. He was really, really loud. He was not a bad guy. He was just really, really loud. And he was preaching the gospel. So, no doubt about that. But it was very loud. And so it kind of be kind of a little disturbing to people walking around downtown, right? So, I walk over this guy. I just kind of spark conversation. He kind of starts talking about this guy. Oh, yeah. I don't know him. Whatever. Blah, blah, blah. Just in the area. I'm a Christian. He goes, "Oh, okay." And then I just sparked up a conversation with him. Had about a 20-minute conversation with him, but he said normally he does not like talking to people because people try to force things on him. But because I just kind of had a casual conversation with him, was kind to him, calm, and slowly, cuz I didn't want to push it, just slowly started asking soft questions, and eventually got to the gospel, and he even took a track. So, praise God for that. That's so good. Good job, uh, Kelly. That's it's great. I find that's important. Um, asking questions, not just like unloading a lot of information, but have it engaging. And that's what I'm not sure if you've seen my video, common analogies for gospel conversations. Kelly, >> I have. Check that might be helpful. That that's some of the tips I've learned over the years of evangelism. You might find it useful. Um, some of the analogies, different questions and, uh, checking questions I find are very key with evangelism, which is the questions of like, what would you say to God if God asked you why she'll let you into heaven? Just to see if the person's understanding the message well. >> But yeah, appreciate you coming up, Kelly. Good chat with you. Talk to you again. Bye. >> Bye. >> Bye.

Wow, that's great. God is amazing. And yeah, let that encourage others to get into the work of evangelism or at least be praying for the work. If you can't do it, you can be praying for it. You can getting be getting behind it in some other ways like that. Uh, but it is a joy. It is a joy. It's not too scary. It is seems scary like, oh, what am I going to say? But then once you know, like that's why we do live evangelism on stream with our monkey chats and so on to help you learn how to do it so that you don't have to be feeling like it's too scary and then you go out and do it. You're like, actually, that wasn't too bad and that was a joyful. You come home rejoicing. But also maybe not, you can't maybe you can't go out, but there's also the online chats as well you can have from even your your lounge room. All right, let's bring up our next person. So, I appreciate the conversation so far. Here we go. We got Jessica as well. Welcome, Jessica. >> Hello. >> Hey, welcome Jessica. What would you like to ask? Um, I had a well, um, question about I don't know, I was trying to figure out how to say it. Um, um, um, there are certain questions I noticed or like verses that I haven't seen you go to a lot and I was wondering if there was a reason for it because I know that like you had that four question thing that you said there's some re sometimes you don't bring up these certain things because it leads to other, you know, miss like it's not helpful. But, um, >> what are you thinking of? Yeah, what passages? >> I was thinking of, uh, because I was reading in Ephesians the other day again and I saw it and I was just like, that's such a beautiful, like it just like lays it out. But there's so much in scripture that does about the >> in, um, guarantee of heaven of salvation, but the Holy Spirit, uh, guarantee of inheritance. Is there something that they use to argue against that or?

>> So with that, I usually go to Ephesians 1. I I bring this up like at least once a week, if not multiple times throughout the day. >> Okay. Okay. >> So this is a very common one I bring up. First, uh, Ephesians 1:13, that when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it to the praise of his glory. Yeah, that's a very common one I bring up. It's a really good one to show >> the certainty of our salvation, how it's secure, you can't lose salvation, and yeah, that we receive the spirit immediately at belief. They're the reasons I'll bring it up. >> Yeah. And I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say you didn't. I just hadn't heard it too much, but I'm not on here all the time either. Sorry about that. I was just wondering. >> There's a lot of passages in the Bible and, um, obviously can't bring up every single one, but but that is particularly one I do bring up all the time. >> Um, in fact, if you want to check if I've ever done talked about a verse and my explanation of it, let me show you quickly. This will be helpful for everyone. >> If you go to our website, here we go. I'll bring it up onto the screen. So, let me just go to the homepage. This is the homepage. And then we click on the videos link up the top here. There's a new feature I want to showcase to you guys. It's called video search, which is basically where you find an exact word or phrase spoken across all the videos that we've done on YouTube. There's almost 3,000. It's 2.9K videos. >> Okay, that's fine. Um, not sure if we can get the charger quick. >> Oh, I'm on the phone. Run, run quickly to get a charge if you can. >> Okay, it's gone. Anyway, but she can listen to this. So, let's let's see if I've ever spoken about Ephesians. Ephesians 1 verse 13. Search 245 videos spoken of with that exact wording. And that and that could be sometimes that the um, the transcript may not even always pick it up correctly. But yeah, look at that. So it it what happens here is it then shows you where I've set it in the video and then you press play and it will play it from that exactly that exact point. So you don't have to watch the whole video. Look, let's do this one. I play this speak. Make sure I'm not sounds doubled up. Let me make sure it sounds not double up so it doesn't sound bad for you guys. We go reshare. Here it is. All right. So, let's see the opposite. Doesn't the Bible say, for example, in Ephesians 1:13 that >> when we believed in him, we were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit. Here we go. When did I say this? When is this? This is 28th of April. So, last week. Um, and it went exactly to the hour and 3 minute mark. So, that's really helpful, isn't it? You know, another one as we see in, uh, Ephesians 1:13 and 14. So, this is just talking about how much worse punishment are these people going to get. Yeah. So, that's really useful. If you ever want to know what do I think about a certain verse, go to our website videos page, search for that verse or that phrase and it'll go straight there and you can hear it. It's really helpful. So, this is on the website. Yep. Needgod.net. Yeah, I think it'd be a really useful tool. Okay, let's bring up our next person. Who we got? We got Sam. Hello, Sam. >> Hey, bro. How you doing? >> Doing well. Good to have you here. Yeah. What would you like to ask today? >> I have a question about your view on the incarnation. >> The incarnation. Yep. >> Uh-huh. Do you take the, um, the usual Caledonian view that Christ did have a human rational mind? Someone actually asked me about this, uh, last week. I think it was last week. And I'll tell you what my answer was. It's going to be the same as what it was last week. And that is, um, I think Christ is fully human and fully God. Truly God, truly man, both like so two natures in one person. And in terms of what does that mean in terms of like, so he has a, he's fully human in every way, like us in every way. Hebrews talks about, yet was without sin. But in terms of philosophical categories, what does that mean? I usually choose to be silent where it may, it's maybe scripture doesn't talk about it. >> When people talk about, okay, does he have this kind of mind, that kind of, I'm like, >> he's fully human and he's full of God. Let me tell you that. But in terms of more finer nuances, scripture doesn't go into detail on. So I would just say, we can find out in heaven. That'd be my answer. >> Okay, so you would be okay with, uh, or like, maybe if you wouldn't believe it yourself, but you wouldn't necessarily, uh, preach anything and I used the word preach loosely there, but preach anything against, uh, like an Apollinarian framework. >> Um, so just remind me Apollinarianism again. >> So Apollinarianism, if I understand it correctly, I think I do, but it's the, uh, that the Logos became the human rational mind of Christ or not the human rational mind, excuse me, sorry, the rational mind of Christ. But notice how this is more into like chapter or verse, please. That's what I would go to. I want to go just chapter and verse. What does scripture say? >> But when people go into more philosophical categories like this, >> I'm just like, >> it's like debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. It's not >> it's not something that the Bible talks about. So I don't think it's nearly something that we need to specifically be >> knowing about at this point. >> Okay. I know you got more people coming up. Can I just ask you a general question on, uh, like how logic works within understanding scripture? >> How logic works. Well, we know that God doesn't contradict himself. So when God says this, he's not going to then say the opposite. If God gives a promise, he'll be consistent in that promise. Um, if that's what you mean. Um, and yeah, you don't have a and not a at the same time in the same sense spoken of in scripture. You'll have scripture being entirely consistent. But maybe I want to ask you, what perspective are you coming from yourself personally? >> Um, well, I am so as far as the incarnation, I would lean toward Apollinarianism. Um, but as far as like my general theology, I'm a, uh, I'm a modalist monarchian. So that would probably >> You're a modalist, you said? >> Yes. I now, not the ancient. I wouldn't, I would probably align more with Sabellius than I with the ancient modalists. >> Okay. Yeah. I I honestly think maybe I wonder if you're getting too involved in particular, maybe even like nothing wrong with learning history, but I don't know if you are getting too much involved in, I want to align with this camp, I'm of Paul, I'm Paul, or some of this, rather than I just want to believe what scripture has to say. >> I don't know that just could be a could be a danger. >> No, no, I agree with >> I want Okay. >> I don't want to interrupt. I know the, uh, I know the, uh, the rules, so I don't want to interrupt you. >> Yeah, I appreciate that. I want to ask you because usually people who, so you deny the Trinity? Just checking that. >> Yes, I would be in, I guess, a way of saying it, non-Trinitarian. But that's even more bringing up more categories than me. >> Okay. Okay. Uh, so what is your view on salvation? My view on salvation is that, um, we are saved by faith by grace through faith, um, not of works, lest any man should boast, as Ephesians talks about. And that, um, that that faith, as James talks about, will be demonstrated through works. Mhm. So would that be the classical, classic Protestant view you'd hold to, or would you say no, you'd differ from them in some way? >> Right. I would say that I, okay, I don't want to be like, I want to state my view clearly instead of just like pretending like I'm in the Protestant camp camp when I'm not. >> So I wouldn't take the traditional Protestant view on salvation. I, uh, affirm the, um, necessity of baptism. And I would say that when you read through the, uh, book of Acts, you see that the, um, the when it does talk about, um, the disciples or not the disciples, when it does talk about, uh, groups of Christians or the Christians being filled with the Holy Spirit, there's mentions it mentions tongues in those passages, speaking in tongues. And so I would affirm the, um, initial sign of the Holy Spirit being >> So are you one that's Pentecostal? >> Yes. But I don't, I don't necessarily like to, I'm totally fine with saying that I'm that. But I also like there's some like theologies or like some, a lot of one as Pentecostals don't like the view modalist. And I, or like the term modalist. And I'm more acceptable to that. So I wouldn't >> that's why I didn't didn't want to. >> Fair enough. Okay. Yeah. I would say >> that would be a denial of faith alone. If you do think that baptism is a requirement for salvation. And the issue with that is I would consider baptism to be a good work. Uh, an act of obedience, like the Lord wants us to get baptized. So would you agree it's an act of obedience? >> Yes. >> Yeah. And so therefore, if someone gets baptized, they're being obedient. But if someone, a Christian, doesn't get baptized, they're being disobedient. And so then if that's the difference between whether someone goes to heaven or hell is the fact that they got baptized or didn't get baptized, then the difference was obedience of the individual rather than just what Christ did on the cross. So do you see my concern with that or what are your thoughts? >> Sorry, I had a weird pop up on my phone. Um, what I would say is that, well, okay, because of that, would you mind like, that last little bit, restating it? Sorry. >> Okay. Yeah. Um, so if the difference of why someone went to heaven, let's say you got two people, they both believe in Jesus, trusting Christ alone to say, well, trusting in Christ to say, but the one of them gets baptized and the other one doesn't get baptized. So, one was obedient, the other one was disobedient in that regard, that specific regard. So, under your view, you'd say this guy goes to heaven, the other guy goes to hell. The difference then was the person's obedience compared to the other guy's disobedience. Therefore, it's not fully relying on what Christ did. It's more relying on what the person did. Do you see that? >> I see what you're saying, but I think that you, you have to be like, can I give you an example? Like >> if and like challenge this if you want, but like if I promised you say a million dollars and I I did a I I promised you a million dollars, but it was, uh, you had to follow a map to get to that million dollars. There were instructions. I I know where you're going to go. I know how you're gonna I feel like I know how you might address it, but, um, because I've heard, I feel like I've heard enough of of your videos and stuff like that, but, um, like the instructions for following that map, like the the gift of the a million dollars to you is still, it wasn't, it was totally me that gave you the a million dollars. It was just on you to follow and be obedient to the requirements to, um, to get that million dollars. And really quickly, you would believe though that someone needs to be obedient in regards to faith in Christ for salvation. Correct? Like someone who doesn't believe in Christ would be disobedient to the command. Right. >> Sure. The difference is when you have faith, you're not doing any actions. Um, you're just trusting in your heart what Christ has done compared to, oh, I've gone to church. I've done this. I've done. They're your actions. And so they are worthy even of reward if you do those good actions. So that analogy though of the treasure and you got to follow this map and do all the different things to get the treasure. It sounds like a Mr. Beast challenge. And you know, you got to stay up on this hill for 40 days or buried underground for seven days, whatever challenge it is. At the end of the day, let's say the people succeed in all the challenges that Mr. Beast had, the money. The prize money is actually not a gift to the person. The prize money is a reward for successfully meeting all the conditions that were required to get that reward. And so therefore, who gets the praise and the glory? Well, the person does. Well done. You stayed 40 days up on something and therefore you get the money. It's it's not a free gift. A free gift would be you've failed. You can, you didn't do anything what was right, but here here's a million dollars anyway. That's a complete free gift because it's not based on the person's obedience and therefore no reason for that person to boast in themselves, but just in what the person has done for them. >> Okay. What I would say is that it's not those things that merit your salvation. It's only the death of Christ on the cross that merits your salvation. So even if you did perform those actions and Christ hadn't died, you still would not, uh, be entitled to salvation. Those things don't entitle you to salvation. They align yourself with God's will and God's command in order to receive the gift of salvation. >> I don't think that removes the objection because if Mr. Beast didn't exist, then none of those people would be getting the prize money. So obviously Mr. Beast has to exist for them to get the prize money. But the condition of why they're receiving the prize money is them completing the task that he sets. And so if, if we gain salvation, of course, we need Christ to exist and for him to die and rise from the dead. That's not in dispute. But what's the reason you're receiving inheritance of heaven? On your view, I got baptized and therefore I spoke in tongues. But on the Bible's view, I think it's the reason I'm getting it is because Christ died for me and I haven't done anything to, I haven't met any sort of conditions of obedience and things like that. It's Jesus just died for me and he just wants to, he he's set on saving me and so he will save me. He takes out my heart of stone, gives me a new heart, brings me to faith, I'm saved and so all credit and glory goes to God. And I think like if we both, neither of us are against good works. We're for good works. We're for baptism. We're for these different things. Just the difference is you make it a requirement for salvation. I don't. That's the difference. So then what would be the benefit of your view? If we both already think we should do these good actions, why would you want me to hold on to your view? Yeah. Do you understand my question? >> No. Okay. I mean this in absolute respect, like I respect the work that you've done as far as evangelizing things like that, but I think the same answer to mine might, and I, I know that that you address this and you said that faith isn't a work and I'd like to maybe touch on that a little bit deeper, um, because I think that my answer would be similar, if not the same, to your answer on why someone who believes that doing all of the things that Christians do is a good work, but that faith in Christ isn't necessary. >> Um, so I'm just trying to say, you, my, I'll tell you why I want to convince you of a different position because I'm not sure if I got from you. You just said it'd be the same. I don't know if it would be the same because under your view, if I still have faith in Christ, got baptized, whatever it is, you know, and I'd still be saved under your view. But if my view of the scriptures is that you wouldn't be saved if you make baptism part of the reason why you're going to heaven or some sort of requirement. So I don't think it's the same reason why I'm trying to convince you why as to why you're trying to convince me, >> right? Well, not not trying to convince me because I, I would say that I probably, I would add more requirements than you do, but your requirement for salvation is is faith in Christ, if I understand you correctly. >> Yeah. Jesus says, "Whoever believes has eternal life. If you don't believe, you're condemned." John 3:18. >> Right. Um, and then, um, so what I would say is that your answer to someone who does not argue that faith in Christ is necessary. So not me, because I believe faith in Christ is necessary, but someone who doesn't believe faith in Christ is necessary. That would be my same response to you is your response to this hypothetical person. Does that clear it up a little bit? Well, if somebody believed universalism, which is what you're in that hypothetical scenario, >> well, then they've got no real incentive to try and convince anyone of universalism because it doesn't matter whether you believe in Christ at all on their view. They'll think you're going to heaven. So, there's not really any like great motive to have to convince people. But, there is a great motive for me in regards to you because I think you're not a Christian at this point if you think these things are extra requirements. And so I think you're going to hell, but, but I want you to go to hell. And this is why I'm like, I really want to, I want you to be saved. And this is why I'm talking to you. But on your view, you'd be like, I'm still saved anyway. Meet the requirements. So there's not really any great motivation. You see that? >> Yeah. Um, so I just think anything you add on, whether it be circumcision as a requirement, that's what Paul says. Paul speaks about in Galatians 5, the Galatian church were thinking faith is not enough, but circumcision is also an extra requirement for salvation. And Paul says, look, I say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. And if Christ is of no advantage to somebody, where do they go when they die? >> Um, yeah, they will go to hell. Yeah. And so that's why I think if you add anything on baptism, speaking in tongues, or other requirements on Christ won't be of any advantage to you because you are just like these guys, they were saying Jesus is not enough. I've got to do something extra. And that's circumcision. And that's what you'd be saying. Now, you may not explicitly say that with your lips, but that's in essence what you're saying when you add these extra requirements. Oh, >> what about Okay, so you brought up John 3. But what about in another version where Jesus of that in Mark, I believe it's Mark 14 or Mark 16, might be Mark 16 where Jesus says, um, he that believeth on me and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned. So he does include baptism in there. So what would be the requirement there? And then also the requirement of the Great Commission. >> Yeah. So Great Commission, go baptize. In fact, teach them. That doesn't say for salvation though. You're a disciple, then you get baptized. But Mark 16, besides the fact that this is not in the earliest manuscripts, verses 9 through to 20. But even if we were to treat it as if it was, it doesn't teach baptism as being a requirement for salvation here. All it describes is people who believe and are baptized and what happens to them. It doesn't speak about people who believe and are not baptized. It doesn't say they are damned, they end up in hell or anything like that. It just says if you believe and you're baptized, you're saved. It's not saying that baptism was what actually justified you, though. But it does also speak about people who are who don't believe and it speaks about them being condemned. So that would imply that the essential part, the thing that will actually condemn you is not believing. But it doesn't say if you're not baptized, you'll be condemned. Nowhere in scripture, um, does it ever teach that if you're not baptized, you're condemned to hell. Would you agree with that? >> Uh, that literal phrase, uh, >> or even the concept, if you're not baptized to go to hell. >> I think >> where does it speak about the concept that if you're not baptized, you will go to hell? So I think that this, the passage I brought up is is a good because I think that the the language there that's used, it links baptism with belief because for, let me give you an example, like it would be if like, um, because like you have two, you have like opposition working there and so you have, he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. He that believeth not. Um, sorry, I'm quoting from KJV, but I know you probably, I think you're using, uh, ESV. So, whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. I think that it would kind of like, not, it wouldn't make sense to say whoever does not believe and doesn't get baptized because it wouldn't make sense for them to get baptized if they didn't believe. And then >> a lot of people do, by the way. A lot of people get baptized who don't believe. The amount of infants that get baptized. Man, >> I do believe that heaps. I know >> that's most people that get baptized probably got baptized as a baby, I'd say. >> Right. But that would, if, if you don't believe, then even with baptism, even under my viewpoint, baptism doesn't save you. >> So, do you see how this doesn't link up? If you're not baptized, you'll be condemned. All it describes is people who believe and are baptized will be saved. But that would, you could also say whoever believes and eats lunch and likes to wear shoes, they will be saved. Now, is if I said that whoever believes in Jesus, eats lunch and likes to wear shoes will be saved. I'm not saying that eating lunch and wearing shoes is a necessary condition to be saved. But I'm just describing because the first criteria is met, believing. I could add any list of other descriptions later on and it's always going to be true because as long as the first condition is met. >> Does that make sense? >> Yes. >> This in this passage is describing >> that your specific example. Yes. But I think that that >> like I don't think there's any any like opposite way of reading this. Like what I mean opposite is because you have the positive and the negative. Like I don't think there's any other negative way of reading this other than the way it states that would make sense. >> I'm I'm reading it as it's written and it doesn't speak about condemnation for, uh, lack of baptism. Like I could say, go back to my example. Whoever believes, eats lunch and likes to wear shoes will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Have I said that you have to eat lunch and like wearing shoes to be saved in my statement? No, >> no. There we go. Thank you. I appreciate that. And that would show then he's not saying here that baptism is a requirement for salvation. I just think that baptism is something that definitely goes along with belief that we because we believe we do get baptized and generally people who do believe do get baptized and that's why it's a, he can link those up there in that way. But he never says if you're not baptized, you'll be condemned. There's nothing in scripture that speaks about that. And we have to compare scripture with scripture as well. And so like John 6:47 says, truly, truly I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life. So according to Christ, if he's true, which hopefully we both believe he's speaking the truth here, then if you meet the condition of believing, then you have eternal life. If this would include the baptized believers have eternal life, but then also the unbaptized believers would also have eternal life because they're still believing and anyone who believes has eternal life. See that? You, sorry, your sound. Have you lost your sound at the moment? Not sure what's going on, but appreciate you coming up, Sam. Uh, maybe we can chat further another time if you, you can return if we can hear you then. Yeah, it's not coming through at the moment. All right. Hopefully that's helpful though. I think that helped. Hopefully that helped him and maybe others understand John's, I mean, Mark 16:16 better. So many people go to it as if it's some sort of, see it proves it. No, it doesn't. Use that analogy that I just used to show that I'm not requiring eating lunch and liking wearing shoes to be saved in my example. I'm just saying that people who believe, whether they like Nike hats or they like wearing, um, like a a woolen coat outside, if they believe, they still have eternal life. Believing is the only essential, uh, condition. And believing is not us doing works because believing is just resting in what Christ has done to save. All right. You know what? Because Jessica asked about Ephesians and she's returned, but I think we might run out of time to just continue that. So Jessica, feel free to come back. But because Jessica has mentioned Ephesians, Beck's picked for us for our song today. Ephesians chapter one. That's great. Thank you. Uh, we love this song. I love this one. And we're going to do the Bible trivia Kahoot game after we do this. Uh, but yeah, Lord, I just pray for Sam, who we just got to speak with. May he come to rest in Christ, acknowledge not only just the Trinity, but also that salvation is purely only by faith alone in Christ alone. In Jesus name, we pray. Amen. All right, let's enjoy this song together. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world that we should be holy and blameless before him in love. He predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ according to the purpose of his will, through the praise of his glorious grace with which he has blessed us in love. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us in all wisdom and insight, making known to us the mystery of his will according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as a son through Jesus Christ according to the purpose of his will to the praise of his glorious grace with which he has blessed us in love. In him we have obtained an inheritance having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will. So that we who were the first to hope in Christ might be to the praise of his glory. Love. He predestined us for adoption to himself as through Jesus Christ according to the purpose of his will to the praise of his glorious grace with which he has blessed us in love. In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of yours salvation and believed in him, are sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it to the praise of his glory. In love, he predestined us for redemption to himself through Jesus Christ according to the purpose of his will to the praise of his glorious grace with which he has blessed us in love. Very nice. Very nice song. Love that one. Ephesians chapter 1. What a great passage of scripture there put to music. You guys can listen to that music there. We put it out on our channel, Needgod.net music. Make sure you're subbed over there. It's also on Spotify, Apple Music, even on our website. You can listen to it. You can even install as an app on your phone. Just go to our website, click the music page, and you'll see it right there. How to install it as an app. And, uh, thank you guys for your very kind super chat. So, God is so good. Saying, God bless. Appreciate that, brother. And also, Math Boy saying, "Amazing song." Yeah, you said you, it's one that you sing at or listen to at work. That's so cool. It's a good passage. God's kindness. And, uh, Harmony says, "It's a real tearjerker. What an unworthy joy to be God's child." Okay. Someone said, "When's question time?" Well, question time will be tomorrow at tomorrow's stream. Right now, we're about to do a Bible trivia Kahoot game to test your knowledge of scripture. Paul's already put the link in. I noticed Paul did a search on the website. How many times has Paul Fryan been mentioned? 48 videos. Nice. That's awesome. >> I think that's a lot of me saying my own name as well. Oh, true. That's funny. Here we go. Yes. Well, thank you, Ryan. It is that time of the day again today, ladies and gentlemen, where we get to play Kahoot. Yes. Favorite time of the day. My name is Paul Fry. I'll be hosting the show today. There's another bite for the video search with the name Paul Fry. There you go. I've got 50 videos now. Harmony, there's your name. I'll mention your name. You'll be put up on the search bar as well when you search for Harmony. There's another two videos. Um, thanks for coming along, guys. If you haven't been here before, well, this is the time of the day where we get to test out your Bible skills and, um, trivia. And don't be intimidated by them. They are somewhat easy questions, some are a little bit hard, some of them have been repeated. So, if you've played this game many times, you should maybe might see the same question. And correct answers first. Fastest finger, you'll be on the podium and we'll get a gerund to have your name read out. So, uh, while we're waiting for people to sign in, if you have an outro question for us, please put the letter O or outro and then Q and their lovely hostess with the most desk, we'll put that in for a question for Ro to read out if you choose to do one. If you don't, then we might have to come up with a cheesy one here at this end. Now, people have been calling me Santa Claus every time I have a chat. So, do me a favor in the chat box. If you think I should color my beard a different color, put the number one. If I stood say as a white, put the number two. I just want to do a little quick poll cuz I'm in two minds whether I change the color or not. H. But anyway, number one if you think I should, number two if I should not. But let's have a quick look and see who is here today. And we have the lady car Amber Hammer Tuesday Joseph team Jesus adopted one clay cup. These names just keep jumping around on me. Crazy fruit salad. So I'll try and keep up. Sister Sister Swift Jazz. Um, Snapper Betty Joe Heshmire. Welcome aboard. Joe, hope you have come to trust in Christ alone. Nathan Bethany Lind Z panda mass boy animal. Is that animal? That's animal. Okay. Flipper says he saw animal. Oh, yeah, there it is. By his grace, friendly hunter, Jesus saves, uh, the house of hell, Derp, Eagleite, Triple J, Paul, agent 700, uh, Bible, Bronny, Melanote, Nil, Vanini, I think that's how I say it. Uh, slow finger clay cup three nails. Uh, new heart. Jared, and Shulip, Zubolu, Oolo, Mama, Llama, where have you been? Come into the stream. I'm a part, didn't know it. Arian, Jackson, Carrot, Betty, Sunshine Girl. And if you are still thinking about playing, jump on board. We have 167 people watching the show and we only have 47. So there's 120 players that can still come in and have a game. Never too late, but we will be starting the play button very soon to start our little Kahoot. Um, outro questions. 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To God. Psalms is a book in the Old or New Testament. Which one? Which one? New Testament. Old Testament. Psalms. A book in the Old Testament. This could be a thousand-point answer for some of you, quick enough. 37 people getting that correct. Well done. Let's go to the scoreboard. Joe Heshmire is in top spot. Hope you'll save Joe and come to Christ. Lindsay, second spot. Three Nails in third. Lady Car is in fourth. Joseph is in fifth, but it is early days. So, let's go to the next question. All right. Which sea did the Israelites cross through after leaving Egypt? Bit of naval coms there going on. Bit of Morse code. Uh, Jordan Sea, Sea of Galilee, Red Sea, or the Reed Sea. I know this got me once. Look at the Red Sea, 'cause I was just trying too fast. But 39 people getting the Red Sea correct. Looks like the Red Sea got it. Four people. Oh, good. Let's go to the checkboard se of the scoreboard. Is Joe Heshmire still on top? Hope you've been saved and come to Christ. Lady Car is in second. Joseph, third. Friendly is in fourth. Lint Z is in fifth. At up 12 places is slow finger with the highest climber. He's on his way up to the top. Keep up the good work. Let's go to question three. Which book is missing in this list? Matthew, Mark, John. Which one is it? Acts, Thomas, Psalms, or Luke? And the missing book is Luke. Well done. 45 people getting that correct. Let's go to the scoreboard and check. Joe Heshi still on top. I hope you've been saved and come to Christ. Lady Cara is in second. Friendly is in third. Lind Z is in fourth and three nails in fifth. I've lost my animations for some reason. So, it's going to make the end podium thing just look a bit boring. Anyway, I have to find out what's going on there. Fourth question. Who said this? "You meant evil against me, but God meant it for good." Genesis 50:20. Who would have said that? Jesus, Moses, Abraham, or Joseph? Correct answers only. Jesus, Moses, Abraham, or Joseph. Who is it? Correct answers only. Correct answer is 32 getting Joseph. Yes. Well done to 32 of you getting that correct. Let's go to the scoreboard and check. Lind. Oh, Joe Heshmire has fallen away just like he has with the Orthodox belief. Lindsay is in first spot. Second place is three nails. Tuesday's in third. Jared in fourth. Team Jesus in fifth. And JJ has the highest answer streak of four in a row. There you go. Good work. Got the flame going on there. Next question. If you've got an outro question, please get it into us. Take a breath. On which day of the week did Jesus rise from the dead? Which day of the week? Which is it? Correct answers only. Type in the answer. Let's see how good you go with typing and spelling. I will accept spelling mistakes if I know what you're trying to type. But get an outro question in please if you haven't done so already and let's review the answers. Okay. Sunday, one. First day, first day, Sunday. Okay. I'll give it to you. Three. No. Sorry. Friday. No. Son. Yes. Third. Yes. Seven. No. First. Yeah. Third. Do I give? Hang on. The first day. Third day. I can't put third, can I? On which day of the week? It wasn't the third day. So, sorry. You can't have third day. Pull Friday. Well, look, you know, I get a Friday every week. So, you know, I'll get one day a week named after me. S. What do you mean by S? That's a very, very shortcut way of trying to get maximum points, but I'll give it to you. First, third, Sunday. Okay. So, the correct answer is Sunday or the first day of the week. Sunday was the first day of the week. Not the third day. He did rise on the third day, but it wasn't the third day of the week. Okay, let's submit that and then go to the scoreboard. Tuesday's come back to top there with top spot. Lindsay is in second. Math boys in third. By His Grace, fourth. Jared is in fifth, but a combo breaker. Oh no. For six people. I'm sorry. Next time, look, don't be discouraged 'cause we will play these questions again. I'm sure. So, don't be discouraged. It all happens to the best of us. We've all failed at the question and lost our spot on the podium. On which mountain did Moses receive the law? Hello, this is Moses. Mount S, Mount Pi, Mount Si, Mount Caleb. Which one? Oh, awesome. 45 people getting Mount Si correct. That is the correct answer. Uh, let's go to the scoreboard and check. Tuesday's in top. Lindsay is in third. Jared is in fourth. By His Grace, fourth and Math Boy, fifth. Jared third, not fourth. Uh, four participants just hit an edge streak of five. Yeah, play that tune. All right, we got two more questions. Let's go. What is the longest sound? Oh, yeah. This will be a good one. Is it 35, 119, or 151? And bonus points if anyone can tell me how many bursts. See Harmony thinking they might have to ask Harmony quickly. Look it up. Harmony, quickly. Okay, 32 people getting that correct. 119 is the correct answer. And Harmony, how many verses are in Psalm 19? >> Uh, I think there's 173. >> Is she correct, Phil? So, what was your question, Pulley? >> How many verses are in the longest psalm? >> Yeah, about what Harmony said. >> 173. >> Sounds right. >> Check it with the Bible. Yo, 3, 2, 1. Correct. Add up. 32 people getting 119. Um, I would have to check with the Bible myself. um, which I haven't got open in front of me right now at this very second, but we are at the last question. Yes, last question. Here we go. Oh, scoreboard first. At six places is Hunter with the highest climber. Nice work, Hunter. Okay, now we've got the last question going. Here we go. What Bible story is this? I've got a black circle. We've got the sun. We've got the sky. We've got the waves. Mountain, plants, vegetables, fish, animals, man, woman, snoozing. Is it creation, Noah and the ark, Jesus dying for the cross? On the cross, or Jonah and the fish? Which one is it? Oh, don't play the music, but 33 people getting creation correct. That is awesome. Now, we're going to just play this out 'cause I don't know. I haven't got my animations, but you go. I know. >> Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. It's Tuesday. Math Boy coming in second and By His Grace is third. Please hit the like button if you haven't done so. Subscribe to the channel. Hit the bell button so you can be notified when we do our live streams. And if you are interested in training, please send me a message on Instagram at Instagram negot.net number seven. We can go through the process there of getting you on board and get you a be a team member with us, work alongside us and Ryan and the team, the lovely team that we have here and um, we'd love to help you out, share the gospel. So, send me a message. Thanks for playing. Catch you later. Thanks, Paul. Appreciate you being a great host. Well done, Tuesday. Wonder who Tuesday is. They do really well. Days of the week. Great work. And um, yeah, it's 176 verses in Psalm 119. I just, I think three more than what I think how many suggested earlier on. All right. Now, we're about to pray together and then after that, we're going to then do the outro question. Father, we do thank you that your gospel has gone out today. We've been able to reflect on the things of the Lord, how amazing you are, but also reflect on how you want us to live as followers of you. Help us to do that well, to be bold in sharing the gospel, to be uh, abounding in every good work as you call us to. Help us to set our minds on things above, not on the things of this earth, be putting sin to death, but then also pursuing things that are worthwhile. And father, help us to remember that we should number our days. That we might have a heart of wisdom. Not being caught up in the same sort of activities that the world's caught up in. That's unwholesome. But instead, having higher priorities. May remember that as Christians, we have higher priorities. And so, may we say no to things that are good to say no to and yes to things that are appropriate to do. So, give us a good night's rest this evening, Lord. Keep us healthy. If anyone's sick right now, please put your healing hand on them. We pray this in Jesus name. Amen. Okay, it's now time for our outro question. And what's that? It's where we ask you a random question. Okay, Math Boy's got one for us. What verse in the Bible do you think about often? Yeah. What's a go-to verse or a verse you think about regularly? Let us know. Let us know. H Ephesians 2:8-9. I think for me comes up quite regularly. Think about it, but also use it in evangelism quite regularly. Yeah, that one. But also Romans 14:12 comes up sometimes quite regularly. Romans 14:12 says, "So then each of us will give an account of himself to God." And it comes up to mind because like sometimes, you know, a human, a natural human thing we can do is just to compare ourselves and even be like, we can sometimes look down upon others if they're not doing the same things we are. I think we always got to remember that we're not doing anything for the approval of others and we shouldn't look down upon them if they're not doing what we're doing. But instead, each of us will just give an account of himself to God. Let's please the one who saved us. We live for the approval of only one, God himself. It's a goodbye from Ryan. >> Yep. Say from Paul. I'm the same with you, Ryan. Evangelize every day. I use that verse just about every day. Ephesians 2:8-9 and um Ephesians 1:13 creeps in there a little bit, too. But definitely Ephesians 2:8-9. >> Yeah, I'd go John 3:16 at the moment. That's comes to mind. Very easy to remember. And then the next one would be John 14:6. And so in showing the exclusivity of Jesus Christ being the only way to have peace with God. So goodbye from Phil. Yeah, good question. There's so many verses floating around in my head, but one that I've thought about a lot and try to memorize is Romans 8:38-39. So it says that "for I am sure that neither death nor life nor angels nor rulers nor things present nor things to come nor powers nor height nor depth nor anything else in all of creation will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord." Bye for Breeze. >> It's the Lord one. We'll see tomorrow from Bolu, Sed, David, EJ, Edson, Emma, Ian, Jenin, Joan, Joy, Gadosh, Kevin, Kevin to the second power, Lucius, Nathan, Nick, Noah, uh, Pearson, Spencer, Tim, Wendy, whoever else that we have served today and will be serving. Um, yeah, I love all that you guys said. Um, I I use a lot of what Jesus has said and um, I do love Mark 10:45 which says that he came not to be served but to serve and give his life as a ransom for many. >> That's good. I like it. And thank you in the chat. Let's see some of the answers from you guys in the chat. We have John 14:6. "I am the way, the truth, and the life." Uh, John 1:2. So, it's about it's been made manifest and we've seen him and heard him, touched him, things like that, showing how the disciples, they proclaim what they saw. Psalm 23, "The Lord's my shepherd." Beautiful. Matthew 6:33, which is like to seek first his kingdom and his righteousness. Malachi 3:10, which is about bringing into the storehouse all the things that the Lord blesses us with. Uh, Romans 4:5, to the one who doesn't work but believes. Jamie said he's had one on his mind since this morning. Romans 13:14, which is um, "make no provision for the flesh." So put on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the flesh to gratify its desires. Romans 8:28, "God works everything for the good of those who love him." Great passages you guys bringing up. This one's Psalm 119. You guys were mentioning Psalm 19 earlier on. "I have hidden your word in my heart that I may not sin against you." Good passages. All right, we're going to be back on again tomorrow at the time of 7:30 p.m. Eastern time, which is 9:30 a.m. Brisbane time. It would be great for you guys to um, come back and make sure you look out for this short that we're going to be posting. The next conversation with skit video will be coming out. Um, watch it, share it, like it, pass on to others. Hopefully, they can be encouraged by it. Okay, well, until our next stream, go serve your king. "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always to the end of the age." To the end of the age. And behold, I am with you always to the end of the age.