SCOTUS denies Trump, Hastie vs One Nation, Could Australia Survive No Fuel?

Okay, welcome. First question, have any of you seen the Vigilante Citizen movie yet? Has anyone watched it?

I'm going to tell you, I watched it in its entirety yesterday. Scotty, have you seen it? I see your finger goes up.

>> I um caveat. I've watched half of it. I've watched the first half. I haven't seen the conclusion yet.

>> Okay. How did George, you haven't seen it yet, have you? We spoke

>> I've seen parts of it and I know the actor cuz that was the actor in that movie. He was the one that did the gay movie with Timothy Charlemagne. So when Timothy Charlemagne and that that actor first came on the scene, their first ever movie was a gay movie. And that's and that's what that was a humiliation ritual to get them into Hollywood. That's what got them famous. But what what happened was that actor got done for sexual um allegedly sorry got done for a sexual something and he got in trouble and they canceled him.

>> So the conspiracy

>> the main character in this movie.

>> Yeah. The main

>> army hammer. Army hammer.

>> Yeah. The conspiracy the conspiracy is after his humiliation ritual with Timothy Charamagne doing the gay movie and him him selling his soul to the devil to get into Hollywood blah blah blah. He then rejected it and as punishment they framed him for assault and that's why he's doing this movie. It's like it's like a f you to Hollywood.

>> Oh wow. It's pretty um How did it make you feel Scotty when you watched it? It's a pretty intense movie. I mean I can see what's going on with it. How did it make you feel though? Cuz I've got my thoughts on it. What was your initial thought when you first started watching it

>> and treated it like any other action uh you know a thriller movie I guess there's that obviously the clear political undertone inside of it um dude then you start reading about the scop stuff right it's a scop it's a scop it's made by these guys it's meant to trigger you internally you know and I I love I love a good action flick you know the start the intro where the chick gets stabbed in the neck and you know you're just like man we live in this world where these things are totally possible. The scene where he um you know gets the judge in the car, the judge who' made the victim to be the to be the criminal. I mean, all of this stuff is visceral for us now and and but but

>> we'd love to see it, but I guess Die Hard kind of had that same effect on me back in the day as well, I suppose. So,

>> yeah, it's disgust, isn't it? It's kind of like they're trying to sigh off us to start doing crazy [ __ ] so we can get in trouble.

>> And you know what? I I think I think the reason it was cancelled was on purpose to create the demand.

>> Sorry.

>> Yeah. If Exactly. If it had not have been cancelled, I would not have watched it.

>> If Elon hadn't retweeted yet,

>> I wouldn't have watched it.

>> Kudos to X to watch a movie.

>> Talking about talking about cancellation really. Do you think KL Stephanovic's cancellation is a big sigh up or do you think he actually got cancelled? Uh publicity stunt.

>> Yeah, I think it's a bit more publicity involved than it really because look, his his little video on the park bench um got half a million views. And why is it because is it because they just wanted to hear what Carl had to say any other day of week or is it because there's a tension around the matter at the moment and it wouldn't matter where he sat he was going to get the views and um I mean just the subtleties you know even like the mention of we're looking for sponsors in it the blas approach to it all to me I just looked I was like just felt a bit

>> didn't feel as candid you know as it were led to believe it felt a bit like this is like clockwork the Pierce Morgan thing the the that interview on the timer literally just got sacked and I don't know.

>> Yeah, it it is interesting cuz and and I'm not like making moral judgment here. Tom Tommy Robinson, Carl, now Drew, all these guys, they're all linked um in in one way or the other. And I have no moral judgment over that, by the I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing, but it's clear that there is a u a coordinated or it seems like there's a coordinated effort around this these groups of people.

>> We're not going to get we're not going to get through a whole episode without talking, are we? It's not going to happen.

>> I'm going to mention it. I was like, can we can can the lads get through it? And

>> no, we can we can talk about it because I'm not making moral judgment here. I'm I you know, it's like the World Cup, right? When when

>> Arby's just trying to join join. Yeah, join an RV. I'll have a chat with you. Maybe maybe you you actually respond to me one day.

>> Um, anyways, um

>> no, it's like um it's like the World Cup, right? We watch a team do really well. It's it's really it's fun talking about the strategies I use. Like I want it's nice seeing a successful team doing really well. Like if anything, I'm I'm jealous.

>> Did you guys see Joe Aston's I don't know if you follow Joe Aton at all. He writes Rampart News. Really good journalist. Did that piece about um Ellen Joyce last year. Have you seen Justin's article about Carl this week?

>> He was talking about Carl's business enterprise in podcasting versus where he's come from, you know, at Channel 9. Carl only owns 45% of the podcast, the entity that they created here. The other 45% another 45%'s owned by uh this lady cashy, I think her name is, and then 10% by uh by his manager. So he doesn't it's not like he's structured this thing as some I mean let's say it does become a Joe Rogan level you know multi-50 hundred million dollar entity gets presence in the US as well as Australia hypothetically let's look forward four four or five years it's an interesting structure to have set it up that way as a long-term business proposal which once again gets my conspiracy brain ticking I can see George's doing back flips around that one as well there's there's something else to this that doesn't quite gel gel up

>> look day one the the day he announced he did this, I sent him a message and he and we we went back and forth and chatted about it and um and I I after that conversation like I I keep asking him and I and I that's kind of what I want him to go on bro show and I want I asked him to come on my show. I said I'm not going to come on your show and I think that's one of the great mist and like I already told Sam and Cher this I I I said to them going on that show was the greatest mistake. You guys don't never go on their show. Always let them come to you. At the end of the day, Choco and Sam, they hold the power. Not Carl. I think in in that moment of time, it would have been nice for Carl to come to them, you know, and I think for you, Scott, and for you, bro, I would say the same advice to you publicly.

>> Um, you like you, and that's one thing that Joe Rogan does so well. Joe Rogan doesn't go on anyone else's shows. You go on Joe Rogan's show. You know what I mean?

>> He does occasionally, George. He does occasionally. Not close friends. Lots of close friends,

>> people he's trying to support,

>> people who's been around for 15 to 20 years as comedians, right? But not not

>> but he's also he's also a known quantity, right? Like I mean he's been around that long now that he doesn't actually have to go on anyone's show and answer any questions at this point. Carl's still a big [ __ ] enigma and he hasn't he's chosen not to go on anyone's shows and and and you're right. I I don't don't disagree there. He's he's maintained. There's this enigma factor that's still hanging over him which is helping sell the aura, right?

>> I don't know. I I it looks to anyone I think honestly if you have half a brain of capable of critical thought when you look at the whole Carl Stephanovich situation, it it smells so strange. It just smells all so strange to me. And I and I I'm not afraid to say that publicly. I'm sorry. It just it just it it feels way to me it just screams industry plant. I'm sorry. I'll just

>> He's got a lot of people who would agree with you, George. A lot.

>> And I'm not having a go. By the way, I I don't I'm not saying it's a bad or good thing. Like, good on him, but like, it's just hard to not see it. Does that make sense?

>> It does make sense. It does.

>> Giants up, mate.

>> We have like 5 million screens here. We got Arvy there. We got Rook Shan. We got Netanyahu down there. Who's that on the left?

>> Poor Edward. Poor Edward. I mean, is the sharpest one out of all of us. He's probably going to go the furthest and he can't get in. He cannot get into the studio. The young bloke. That's okay. He'll get here eventually. What do I think? Yeah, I share the sentiment of both of you. I think there's a massive unknown. Scott, um my initial thing is that I think when you've spent so long doing what he's doing, right? I mean, that's that's 20 years. All right, let's go a little bit deeper. Would you agree that your environment shapes you?

>> Yeah, of course.

>> No matter where you are, your environment shapes you, right? And so it's very rare that someone comes out this is a this is the monoculture argument this is uh this is your ideologies your faith your upbringing your environment shapes you so Carl has been uh whether you call it blessed or lucky or whatever it is he has been in an environment where he's been mainstream media um he's had the 20 years of getting paid I think the highest paid um in that position in Australia for for quite a long time around the Murdoch around the certain people at the certain parties at the certain things pushing powing the company line when things come up and they've got to spread it they say it the co debacle all that stuff. I don't think you just come out of that and instantly change. I think if you did come out of it and instantly change it would just look different to what it is now. I think there'd be a different um there just be a bit more of a ruthlessness about it and it wouldn't feel so strategic And so I think there's a reason when there's smoke, there's generally fire. There's a reason a lot of people are asking questions. Like George said, doesn't necessarily mean it's good or bad. He might just be a mainstream guy who now has gone independent. So he's still that guy like Gavin Newsome has a podcast. He's still Gavin Newsome. He's just got a podcast. It'll be interesting to see who his sponsors are and all that. But like we said, the invitation's open. I'll make this call though. I bet you $100 he does not come on one of our shows first. The first show he will go on will be a massive platform because there will be strategy behind it. He might come talk to us in a year's time when he's already had the big moment on someone else's show and they get the views and I get all that but he's not going to come to us today. So

>> well Pierce Morgan's Yeah. And but my point is like this is a throwback to our podcast, our first ever meeting we did, bro. Right. When I talked about centralization of power, right?

>> Yeah.

>> So what what what we're seeing what we're what we're seeing unraveling to the world is

>> the expression of the universe in regards to people like us communicating independently through social media, making it very clear on how we feel about things and speaking truth to the world and we believe it to be moral truths to the world. And then the elite who sit there realizing that this is happening having to then create a system that they can then centralize around it. And what they do is they create copies of what we are but that they have under their influence and control. So,

>> I'm not saying that's necessarily Carl, but I'm saying whenever there's a power loss somewhere, if you can imagine like this is all of power in the world and then there's a hole in this bowl that I'm holding that's power and it's leaking out. The first thing the elites will try and do is is contain that leak and create another version of that for themselves. So, and that is a constant cycle that repeats and repeats. That's exactly what Christianity was when it first came about. The the empire, the Roman Empire had to centralize around it, otherwise they would lose control. So, it's interesting.

>> George, you you put it down to nefarious intent. Could we also speculate then that it's a it's a natural balancing that's kind of unfolding again as well here as well? I mean, you can't have good without evil, right? And I mean

>> it's taken a long time in Australia for the for for the right wing of what whatever we are in the right side of you know politics anymore for whatever we are to try and learn how to fight on this narrative battlefield this social media platform these social media platforms and you got someone like Carl who's big fish who just swoops in there and maybe his producer is astute enough to go hey there's a huge opportunity here for someone like your voice Carl could have been Dave Hughes could have been Cole Sandins could have been I mean could have been dozen people really at this point, right, who could have filled that vacuum. So, I mean,

>> here's what I'll say, Scotty. On the back of that, Kyle Sandens, you just reminded me of what I was thinking earlier.

>> I think Kyle Sanderlands will be 10 times the size. And that's not a knock at Carl. I think I think Kyle Sanderlands is going to have a legitimate breakout. That's just what I That's just my discernment, my gut feeling. I think Cole, while I while I think the way it's all gone down with Jackie know and all that is probably all is all staged, I think his legitim his actual breakout is going to be completely different to Carl's and I think his will be huge.

>> Nature nature aborts a vacuum, you know, and there is a vacuum in this space and it's going to be filled and and there's a bunch of us. Look at all of us here doing what we do. [ __ ] a year ago I wasn't doing this, you know, and we're all being sucked into the vortex here, you know, this this vacuum sucking us in these big names are looking at it going, you know what, this might be a rich field to play out right now.

>> what do you think George about um Sanderlands do you do you any thoughts on Kyle

>> yeah look I think he has great potential and just to answer Scotty's thing I don't think this is nefarious I actually I'm in complete agreement with you I do think it's a natural equilibrium effect like as in like the centralization But I guess what I'm trying to get at is that there is definitely a hierarchy in humanity. You definitely have different levels of humanity, different there's people who are just not as good as the top, right? And it's just and it's the same of any animal kingdom. And um yeah, it's just the way it is. But it is interesting to see it. Um yeah, look, Kyle will be good. I would like to see um I don't know like honestly this is going to sound really strange and it's kind of like outrageous to say but I wish Steve Urban was still here because I wish Steve Urban was still here because I think Steve Urban would have been so fantastic to have around at this time in in Australian history like he would have been

>> he would have been a raving boomer lefty you know that right

>> dude 100% I was watching some old car you know like um Steve Owen the other day he was talking about the daughter birth of his daughter and how, you know, something as dumb as him could create something so beautiful. Those of us that have had children have felt that before. And I was looking at him thinking,

>> I reckon you would have been I reckon you would have been one of those pain in the ass lefties as you got older, mate. You know,

>> bless me.

>> I don't know. I think I I disagree. I disagree. I reckon that stingray was a um

>> But your tongue's got challenging.

>> I reckon that I reckon that stingray was a um was a

>> I'm sorry,

>> George. I'm just trying to get the show on YouTube. I'm joking.

>> I'm just trying to get it on YouTube.

>> You know, if you're wondering if you're wondering why it muted there for a second in the edit,

>> you have to go to Patreon. Sorry. By the way, guys, I make a lot of slow motion footage of every death in the world that's ever happened, right? Like every famous person. We've never seen the Steve Owen death video, mate. It's never ever made it to the internet to the dark web or anywhere. Not that I want to see it, my I might add, but the point on the point is that video has never ever emerged. Does anyone think that's kind of unusual? He was wearing a microphone apparently while he was swimming.

>> He was being filmed.

>> Yeah, he was filmed. I have a theory that the microphone exploded.

>> Right.

>> No, no. Yeah. Look, I was just I like to make

>> I like to make some Okay.

>> It's a dart joke, but no, I'm serious. I think I I don't know. I have a feeling cuz to be honest, like I've had interactions with the Irwin family and they've always been so nice to me. So that's that's kind of where I'm getting this assumption from cuz I believe in like destiny. I believe um I believe he would have been on the right side of history to be honest. And I and I believe the same thing about um Shane Warren, you know, I think Kobe Bryant, I think um all these figures would have been these all strong men I think who have conviction. So I don't know. It's unfortunate.

>> Yeah. Well, hey, I the question is though, would would Steve Owen have taken the vaccine?

>> Ask that question.

>> Do it for Australia, mate. to Australia.

>> Did Roberts I didn't think promote the vaccine, did they? I didn't see them.

>> I don't believe I don't believe so.

>> I don't know. That's actually We should probably check that. But um

>> some someone should build a uh a Claude thread that's like, "What would Steve Win do?" You know, backlog all of Steve's known content in there and get this thing like what would Steve Win do? That'd be a really interesting project to create. Someone out there put that thing together. Send it to me. I'd love to run it.

>> Honestly, I honestly believe if Steve Owen didn't die, he would be Australia's biggest like he would be the man like the man of the hour, you know? He

>> that's that's why he could he had to die, mate.

>> Maybe. But it's sad because he Yeah, he was very special. And um and uh look, I'm sure there's a little bit of lefty in him, but there's a little bit lefty in all of us, right? Like

>> Yeah. I mean, I can't even define what Australian is. There is a little bit lefty. Australian is um like Scotty loves wearing caps. You know, they're all lefty in some way.

>> So,

>> it depends if you're going to wear it backwards or not.

>> Yeah. Oh, no.

>> What is the trend with that with with older men doing that? I don't get it. What's the trend?

>> Mark W. I thought there was a sign up going on. Do it all at once.

>> What is it?

>> Lton Huitt.

>> Leon. Another legend. Another legend.

>> He's alive, isn't he? Yeah. He's I didn't say he's dead. I just said he's a legend.

>> Man, he was fantastic, right? And I mean, what do you think he was married to that Super Hot Neighbors star as well? What was her name? I can't

>> He lived in Adelaide, Lane Huitt. He lived um his his parents live here, I think, still.

>> Hey, George, there's there's an account an Instagram account that's popped up. I believe he's from Adelaide.

>> What's it called?

>> And it's called Let me just um Poor old Edwards. When Edward comes on, we'll just pray like we're wrapping up. Poor guy's been trying to get in for 20 minutes.

>> Um, I'll tell you what he's called.

>> He keeps on knocking, but he can't get in.

>> He's really

>> watching. We do have some stories to come. We just haven't got there.

>> It's like one of those Seventh Day Adventists that knocks on the door on a Saturday morning, mate. Or whatever. You know, like, hey, have you got a minute to talk about Jesus Christ

>> with you guys? With you guys? Yeah, I've got an hour.

>> Oh, you won't believe it. The account. Oh, the account is actually got Look who he's got on it. Okay. The account is called Australian Australia First Network.

>> Oh, yeah. I know who that is.

>> Handles Australia First. Look what he's got. Look who he's got in the actual

>> Let's have a look in his profile.

>> Let me have a look. I haven't looked at it in a way.

>> No, it's it's going to love that you you're talking about this, by the way.

>> Good. You seem like a nice guy.

>> Oh, Steve.

>> Steve. Let's go.

>> Yeah. So, I don't know who this guy is, but if you're watching, I know

>> you will be watching. Go and follow him.

>> I know who he is.

>> I think he's I'm going to take a stab in the dark. I think he's got a really good heart. I had a little chat with him

>> and I say go follow him. If I'm wrong about it, I apologize later.

>> He's a fantastic human being. I I wish you nothing but the best. And all these Edward clones here, I think Ed would be on um

>> Well, just gave him a follow. He calls himself a Zuma patriot. Is he a Zoomer, George? Can we verify that he's not a Pakistani bot?

>> No, no, I I know he is, Scott. And he's actually written to you. He's emailed to you as well. So, if you he did a huge uh he's done a huge report for you guys. So, if you could if you get a chance to look at it, take a look at it cuz apparently

>> I'm being sincere. when um he messaged us on the on the new chamber Instagram that we created. If you guys aren't following it yet, at the chamber um on Instagram, he he messaged there and just started talking and I kind of talked back with him and um man, he just I just got the feeling. I was like, I don't know who this is and he wouldn't tell me.

>> He he could he could be the future king of Australia.

>> Oh, let's get him on. He could be the second Edward Square here. We don't know. Hey, I want to get in the first story. Immigration affecting elections. Scotty, let's just touch on quickly before we get these poor people watching. Thanks for watching so far. just us muck around there for 22 minutes. Why is immigration affecting elections when you can't vote until you're a citizen? Take us to school, Scotty.

>> Well, well, there's a number of seats in Australia that are heavily affected by the migrant communities within those those seats. Like take Tony Burke's seat of, you know, where he is, for example, the name the name eludes me, but 28% of the population in that seat are are Muslim. And I think about 38 or 40% of the the actual seat itself have an ethnic origin background. They weren't born in Australia. So I I had this argument made consistently that you must be an Australian citizen to vote. Yes, that's that's correct. You must be. But there's nothing stopping you from volunteering to assist in an electoral campaign if you're a permanent resident, a temporary visa, someone here on holidays. there is absolutely nothing from nothing stopping you from working as a volunteer. Now, we know that a bunch of these people come from low trust societies into Australia and and that ethnically it does them great favor to be able to muster bodies on the day when it comes to voting and in the in the weeks leading up to pre in pre-polloles as well. It's hard to get people to man these things, but these communities are tight. They work together and they have a common interest. And so we can talk about foreign influence or foreign interference in elections, but I think we need to have a closer look at the people that are also volunteering for and helping out these campaigns. And I think there needs to be closer scrutiny on that. And I've done a bit of research around this as well. And there's absolutely nothing stopping you from coming to Australia on a holiday visa and and assisting in an election here as a volunteer, provided you're not paid. And I think that's absolutely disgraceful and disgusting. And then when you look at that the top five seats in New South Wales that have the highest proportion of migrants with the exception of DL seat they're all Labour held seats and DIY was a Vietnamese ethnic origin who was up against another Vietnamese ethnic origin for the ALP. And so with Victoria coming up in the state election in New South Wales state elections, you know, not long after, we know now and now that our eyes are open and now that we're looking at what's going on around us that there is some nefarious [ __ ] going on with these elections. And I think this is something that needs to be watched a lot closer. And I think we need we can make laws until the cows come home, but the reality is enforcing those laws is almost pointless these days because it's it's it's hard to enforce them. But how do we prevent this type of stuff from happening? I don't know if anyone else has got any experience or thoughts around that, but I think it's a topic that needs to be pushed on hard.

>> Yeah. I wonder how you um and George your thoughts come back in a second, but I wonder how you would actually I mean police it without manpower itself from the other side. If people can reflect on what happened in the election in 2024 with Donald Trump in America, they had to spend an absolute fortune on election integrity because of what happened in 2020. So they had to have lawyers on the ground, volunteers, you know, by the thousands in every place, people, what do you call it? Scrutiny, accounting, scrutiny voters, whatever you call those, people watching other people count, stuff like that.

>> Um, so I don't know how you get around it. You need, you know, you need one for one. You need someone watching the people who you believe are helping the other side, nefarious. So it just takes so much manpower. I don't know what the way around it to fix it is. I don't know if there's going to be a quick fix to it, but I don't know if you got any thoughts on that, George. Look, I'm very passionate about this subject because we had something here happen in Adelaide where Adelaide city local council elections were avoided because it turns out there were Chinese international students who were voting in council elections

>> and doing by the thousands um from what I remember. Maybe fact check me on that but that and that um was taken to court by Alexander Hyde who actually won and they had to redo the election because of it. So this is a serious issue. We have foreign interference in our elections. We had Chinese foreign interference in an election here in South Australia.

>> So yes, it's a serious issue and if it if it's happening in local council, who knows what's happening in state council? Who's know I mean in state parliament and federal parliament? We don't know how far this corruption goes. So um yeah, we should all be very careful around these topics. And yeah, I don't think it's um responsible that we have people from different countries um coming into uh into our country and having an impact on our elections. It's absolutely ridiculous. And um it's a sign of weakness and uh you know, it's it's it just it just antithesizes how weak this nation has become when we're letting people who are not even born here or or part of this nation do that. It's it's actual disgrace. So

>> Edward, I know you had a bit of a nightmare there sorting things out on your end. Um, for those watching, you're probably going, "What happened?" Something just happened because we lost Scott. Edwood is now in place. There's been a clear edit. There's been a lot happening in between. But don't worry, you haven't missed anything people watching. But I need to explain to Edward, we're actually talking about the idea that um immigration and the levels of it and all that are actually having effect on elections. And then the counterargument is, well, hang on, you can't vote unless you're a citizen. and Scotty Chalon's kind of piece is well um you can get involved though and because you've got sheer numbers you can you can you can apply labor to a campaign which we all know is important having people on the ground like boots on the ground people handing out flyers people doorn knockocking all those things that you can do um which they are doing have you got any thoughts around you know campaign integrity and and immigrants being involved first I'll ask you do you think they should even be allowed to be involved

>> look it's probably not probably not I would say the bigger issue though is these um sectarian uh voting blocks that are that are forming across the country and and those are people who can actually vote legally because they are either permanent residents with uh that right or they're citizens. So that's that's really problematic is when you've got these uh Muslim these Hindu these uh you know

>> uh seek voting blocks uh which are generally foreign to our country and um they're having an influential say on you know the policy of the government. I mean the home affairs minister is beholden to his electorate which is 30% Muslim in uh Tony Burke that is. So that's that's a huge problem. But yeah, in terms of political involvement of noncitizens, um you'd like to see stronger control over that, but I think it can perhaps become a bit of a distraction from the bigger thing, which is our elections are complete completely compromised because demographics are destiny. And we've seen that uh in the US, we see it in the UK. Uh and we're going to see it more and more here in Australia if we don't get a hold of the root problem, which is um mass immigration from foreign cultures. Um but yeah, on this issue, I think it's a bit of a no-brainer. Um there shouldn't be much involvement uh if if any uh from nonitizens.

>> Yeah, I need to I need to probably just clarify what I said. I'm talking about non-citizens, not just immigrants can't vote. Yeah, non-citizens. Uh we still haven't defined um what an Australian is in general. We'll come back to it, but did you have any thoughts, Ed, because you cut out for you at the start, but I was asking the boys if they'd seen that Vigilante Citizen movie yet. Have you had a chance to I wanted to get your take. Have you seen any of it? Any clips or

>> I saw a clip. I saw a clip. It was a pretty violent one. Um I'm keen to watch it. What what I this has come out. I know Elon Musk has, you know, posted it far and wide as well and it's sort of captured the the attention of so many. What's give a bit of a background uh on it.

>> Yeah, we we kind of chatted a little bit about it. Um we kind of touched on the topic that might be just this major scop the fact that they canled it. We actually got sidetracked. We started off talking about that. The word scup was mentioned and then we ended up on Carl Stephanovic and Kyle Sanderlands. So, we kind of got a little bit sidetracked with it, but the idea, I guess, is that this movie um comes out. It's it's heavy on the sentiment of um you know, it it comes against the this story of this Islamic kid or these Muslim kids raped this girl and then that's kind of like one of the subplots of the thing. And then there's other things going on in the area and there's this citizen, this vigilante citizen who's just wiping people out. That's kind of the gist of it. And his whole message that he drives home probably like

>> I reckon it's said six or seven times in the movie is he's like, "I do this for you until you learn to do it for yourself." And it's this constant push of like, "Go and take matters into your own hands. I'm going to keep doing it until you go and take matters into your own hands and do it yourself." Yeah. It's pretty it's pretty fullon. I mean, the reason I was asking other boys is what they thought about is is how it make you feel. And whenever a movie makes you feel, it makes you feel like that because they want you to feel that.

>> So you'll never watch a movie and feel a certain way and it not be the feeling they want you to feel. Like they're very good at making sure that what you feel was their plan. And so when you watch a movie like this and you feel like being the hero, you're like, you know what, maybe we should be doing this. Maybe we should go out and commit acts of violence. Like that's what people be thinking. When I watched it, you for sure it will create people to do this. George's take earlier was like, you know, maybe they just want people to go out and start getting crazy. Like that's the whole point. Like it's this propaganda to you emotional get people emotional enough to go let's go commit acts of violence. Hey Scotty, we're just touching back on on the vigilante just again. We just touched on that for Scott. But yeah, that's where we're at. It's been I've just given the viewers a bit of an update. It's it's been chaotic in the back end. You might not be able to tell by the edit, but we've been losing Scotty, losing Edward. We had a whole other session at the start that I've actually separate to this, it's probably going to be on Patreon only where George just threw a hand grenade in and we went deep on some theological stuff before we even got into the politics. Uh, we were just kind of closing out, Scotty, this idea around the immigration stuff. I don't know if George has has touched on it yet, but um, Edwards had a bit of a say. George, do you have anything to add on this immigration stuff, the integrity about it?

>> No, I'm just saying that there is I'll just re uh reset the point before. We've seen it now in court being battled with the election here at the LA city council where there was

>> interference, foreign interference in in a council election. So where international students are coming here and they're voting on council elections. It's an absolute disgrace and uh it needs to be stamped out immediately and uh it has luckily it won in the court the uh and it's been um overturned and they did the bi-election for central ward. So, I'm very happy to hear that. So, justice was served, but you know, um I'm not sure what's happening in New South Wales or Victoria. I'm sure that stuff's happening there quite a bit. So, it needs to be looked at.

>> Now, now that we've got Edward here, I want to get to Edward's article in um the Sky News. He's a bloody good little contributor here, Edward. I'm I'm happy he's a part of what we're doing. Take us through your uh your article, Edward, about Hasty versus One Nation. You can I'm going to even try and put on the screen for those at home. Um, but take us through this article, Edward.

>> Oh, it's basically a bit of commentary on what's happened over the past uh well, the past week in particular with Hasty uh openly declaring war on One Nation in emails to his members uh the remaining party members that he does have. Um basically talking about, you know, Barnaby Joyce being the architect of Net Zero and all of these different things and opening up on James Ashby, on Pauline Hansen, all of this sort of stuff. Um and getting really tough on the rhetoric. We've seen a couple of other guys do that as well. I think GH Hamilton might have been one of them. Um, and a few others as well in the coalition. And my argument is it's already uh it's a battle that's been lost before it started. And you've got stuff uh Hastings uh the writing's been on the wall since the Ben Robert Smith stuff. One Nation are being able to utilize that in an incredibly uh impactful and potent way. We saw it on as an election issue in Farah on the ground at least um you know, with their plaqueards out saying we stand with BRS stand with one nation. Um but more so even more to the point is what happened at the start of this year. Hasty's backflip uh on the uh free speech the hate speech laws that passed in January. Uh he told his supporters he'd be voting against it. uh he changed his mind. He said that increased powers for the intelligence agencies was enough to change his mind to vote for it um because it would help them deport um you know, radical Islamists as he would say. But I think since that point in time the writing's been on the wall. Now he has no choice. People are saying oh it's a bit of a miscalculation. He's having a crack at One Nation. They should be trying to work together. He's got no choice. Uh he's a fighter. um he will continue to fight, but I think um you know, time's already uh well, time will tell, but I think the battle's already been lost for Hasty.

>> Scotty, how do you think the Liberals How do you think the Liberals even come back from where we've touched on this before? I'm with you. I think I saw you reference it somewhere, but um they have to do in my eyes, I've touched on it before, but I think in my eyes for the Liberals to gain traction, you got to go to PE the two hot topics, which is always going to be the topics. If there's the one emotional one that can change through campaigns at the moment, it's immigration. But the other one that's always present and doesn't change is people's back pocket, which generally comes down to tax. $5 a week here, $200 or $275, you know, back on a power bill a year doesn't cut it. You need huge tax reform. People need like three four $500 a week to to that. Something like that would completely change the way voters look at a party. So, I think anything short of massive tax reform, um, anything short of just polarizing immigration policy, um, what else could they do?

>> Completely separate from, yeah, completely separate separate themselves from climate change stuff. Like, they're going to come out hard on these issues. They cannot be anywhere in the middle. What's your thought, Scotty?

>> You nailed You nailed that, Brody. Like, at this point now, it's a death spiral for them. It's a doom loop. They're they're they're gone. It's finished. It's over. They're just fighting time now. And I might note as well in Queensland, the L&P convention is on this weekend. I've got multiple friends and family members that I sucked into joining the party that are involved in it. And and they'll be there pretending that it still exists, pretending that there's still something to think about in in the next few years. But this is what Hasty needs to do. He needs to go to the electorate like Trump did with some massive massive tax changes. Now, what did Trump do in 2024 uh 24? He uh he promised to drop taxes on tips. You know, it was huge, massive, massive for low-inccome earners. If I was hasty, I would be going to this election with a promise to lift the taxfree threshold to $50,000 and look at a way to index uh taxation rates against inflation and then really drive home some massive tax reform. uh is simple stuff to uh to try and win the electorate over. At this point now, he's got nothing to lose. Their bats against the wall and there's nothing else. Nothing's going to tinker around the edges anymore. Their commitment to dropping net zero rate, that's awesome. Should have been done years ago, but here we are. We they're there, but it means nothing. It's falling on deaf ears right now. And so, and and I think Ed's right. And I I think you're right here. It's a doom loop. And Hasty's got no choice but to come out swinging with something massive. And when he when he does roll Angus, and I think Angus is a dead man walking as well, I think that's all they're going to have left to go with.

>> Just touching on the tax stuff because I it interests me. I don't think they'll ever um make huge changes to a tax-free threshold. Um but I think they can on the other side make massive changes to no tax on overtime, no tax on tips. Not that we have a huge tip.

>> I saw this. No tax and no tax on a second job. I think

>> second jobs 100%. But but think about this, right? How can you tax someone when you're earning below the poverty line threshold for income? If the poverty line threshold is 50,000 52,000, how can you take tax off someone in the who's live already earning below the poverty line?

>> I 100% agree with you. I just don't think they'll I don't think they'll ever change it from that end. I think what you can get through is things like no tax on a second job. They actually tax you higher on a second job.

>> Yeah.

>> They they completely kill the incentive to work hard if you if you told people no tax on overtime. Can you imagine what would happening the

>> the fruit of that? Your construction industry would completely change.

>> Well, productivity, you would lift productivity. Now, we all know that productivity is is directly linked to the to the failing of the economy right now. It's never been lower, you know, and so hence our slice of GDP and our slice of pie gets smaller and smaller. But yeah, you're right. If you want to people say there's not enough workers, but we also have this structure in place now where a pensioner, you know, who might have a skill set that I could use in my business, for example, you know, for 10 or 15 hours a week is going to get absolutely nailed on tax if they come and work for me for 15 hours a week because of the pension that they receive. I mean, New Zealand has a good structure for this is much better. There's things around the world we could be looking at that we could be adopting here, but man, you know, you're going to get five bucks a week from Elbow and you're going to pay the same amount of tax on $190,000 this year as you would have in 2019. And that's the most insane part of it, mate. the um yeah, when I see that stuff, I I cannot understand how politicians can sit there with a straight face and and campaign on we're giving you a tax cut and the tax cut might honestly be worth like seven bucks a week. Like when a cup of coffee is like more than $7 now, but no one really calls it out. It's kind of almost like accepted like, oh, that is a tax cut. That's not a tax cut. That's like a kick in the guts to people. People's lives don't change over $7.

A week. They don't change over. And even though Albo, he couldn't even pull it off. The um, energy prices actually went up. But their whole thing about, "You're going to have a $275 discount on your power." Not only was that pathetic, that that was even something to be proud of and we're going to get it. They couldn't do it. It went up because of climate change, because of the subsidies that are built into your power bills, because of green deals and all the stuff they do.

I just don't understand how you can't come out and, and Trump knows this obviously. That's why Trump came out and said, "No tax on tips, no tax on overtime." I don't think he's got the overtime one through, but the no tax on tips, I think, is through, or at least it's part of one of their bills they're trying to do. But in Australia, you do something like that for Australians, all of a sudden the Liberal brand that we all think is dead, I'm telling you, overnight Aussies will just go, "What? 200 bucks a week in my pocket? I'm in." All of a sudden, I don't care about immigration. Money in your pocket will actually take over the immigration argument overnight. That's, that's my belief. It will be because people are notoriously, they care about money. It's the same reason rich people don't really care about immigration because money provides comfort for them. It doesn't touch them. So all of a sudden, if the bloke at the pub decides, "Oh, I'm getting an extra thousand bucks a week," and they're not talking about immigration, they don't care about it.

"They're not worried about the future of the country. They're worried about their monthly bills."

Ed, Ed, are you, when you wrote that piece, were you disappointed in Hasty's political judgment, or do you think it's purely the voices around him? The same thing that happened to Dutton in the, in the final two months of the last federal campaign, mate.

Look, I think, look, now, now again, I, I don't really critique in the article, and I wouldn't now, the way he's going about it now with One Nation, like I think he has to do that. But in terms of the decisions, uh, with the, with the HP stuff at the start of the year, uh, yeah, I can only imagine, uh, when he put out that original video, um, three days before he changed his mind saying he's going to vote against it, he would have faced an enormous amount of pressure. He would have got the calls from the lobby groups. He would have got the calls from his own party leaders. He would have got the calls from the state president saying, "Hey, we're never going to mobilize support behind you if you don't, you know, sort of backtrack this." And he ended up caving. So, I think he, I think, I think he's had the right intentions a lot of the time, but it's just not enough. Like a betrayal after betrayal after betrayal. And people are going to say, "Okay, where, what's the evidence of you even having the right intentions?" I mean, I think I like to, I like to hope that there's, you know, there's good in, good in everyone. And I think Hasty, um, you know, in particular is, you know, seems like a good enough guy. But, um, time after time, whether it's judgment, uh, whether it's not being able to stand on conviction in the times that it matters. And then there's the whole piece on Ben Robert Smith and, um, the, the thoughts of the people that went over and fought with him and how he, uh, in their mind, betrayed him. Um, and, you know, uh, I think it was Scott Jones, uh, was one of them. Uh, he went on, um, Sam Banford's podcast, and I mentioned that in there that it's still the most viewed, uh, ones of Sam Banford's podcast by, I think it's got three times the amount of views as his interview with Pauline Hansen. So, that Ben Robert Smith issue has struck a chord, not just, um, here in Australia, but across the world. And it's a very influential one. And I think Hasty is forever associated with it in a completely negative way. So, I just don't think there's, there's a way back for it.

What's your, what's your thoughts on him, George? What do you think of Hasty?

Um, oh god, this is YouTube friendly, right? Um, I'm very skeptical on, um, very skeptical on, uh, Hasty. And I think he is the antithesis of what it means to be a liberal, to be honest. Um, and I mean that in a really bad way, 'cause I just, how can you trust a man like that and his convictions, um, with all the actions he's taken so far? So, I don't know. It's quite frightening. I feel like he'll just do what he needs to do to survive. But, yeah, it's a scary thing that someone like him can continue doing those things and people fall for it. But that's the sad thing about the Liberal Party. It's just a sad state. And that's kind of why I'm worried about One Nation. I want One Nation not to fall on the path of someone like a Hasty who, who behaves in that way. And then, um, do you think, do you think we complicate the legislation too much? Like, when you mean Hasty backflipped on voting for the, for the anti-semitism and hate speech bill, but so did Phil Thompson. Phil Thompson did the same thing. Veteran as well. You know, and let's face it, there was a bunch of liberals that did. When the Nationals held their ground, they didn't vote for it. And, um, Hasty, um, sorry, Antic didn't vote for it as well as a liberal in the Senate. Do you think they complicate these bills too much and layer things into them so that you kind of, by default, we find a lot of politicians getting caught out voting for things? "Oh, you voted in favor of this." "Well, actually, what I was voting in favor of was this amendment where I wanted this to happen. The rest of it kind of slid through." And we saw that with David Farley, the, the, the, uh, the One Nation die accidentally voting for the budget, by accident, 'cause, uh, he didn't realize what he was voting on as well. I just wondered if, how anyone felt about that.

Yeah, I think there should be, I think there should be actually some changes around that because it's so, for one, the bills and the legislation they put through, one written by most of the time bureaucrats who aren't voted in, people who have lobby, >> lobbyists, people who have, well, clearly, right, of course, yeah, people who have agendas outside of the Australian people. Um, and then there's, there's so much in it. And the gamesmanship of having to vote on something so quickly. And I can tell you right now, um, it happens to most of the po, most of the politicians who actually, maybe they are a stand-up person most of the time. If you want to stay true to your morals, all you can really do is vote no, >> because every bill has something bad in it. So even though there might be a little piece that's good, the intention is to always be able to come, no matter which way. If you vote yes on something because you're like, "I'm trying to get a win for my, for some infrastructure over here for my people in North Queensland," but they've got something over here totally unrelated. And which one am I going to bend to? All you can really say if you're going to stay staunch is no. Take it all out and we just do this. And until you have someone like a really strong Senate owned by PE, as in, that's, that's where the answer is going to be in.

So you voted no to that bridge in North Queensland, Brody? You voted no.

Well, this is the problem that, >> that's what they do, right? And I go, "Yeah, because there was other stuff about kids being exposed to trans curriculum." That's why I voted no. Because you put this perversion in the same bill as infrastructure. That's why I voted no. Right. That's what, that's what it comes down to.

That's not what, that's not what the media is saying, though. And that's not what clickbait is clipping out of there. What they're v, what they're clipping in there is, "Brody voted for trans, trans people in Sydney to be able to get access to to story time, mate." You know, like, >> "I'm like, I didn't even see that fine print. I thought we were building a bridge."

Which is what happened in the US as well with Thomas Massie, like recently. Like the all attack ads were so effective because they were technically true. Technically true saying, "No, he did vote against this." And, um, I mean, you're 100% right. They're going to play politics, uh, with this if, if you vote in a certain way. Um, but, yeah, there we can't, while this is such a common practice where there are these omnibus bills where just everything is passed and all these different things that are completely unrelated in in a bill, um, you can't pretend that we have some fortified democracy. And this is what the parliamentarians like to do on both sides of politics. They like to say, "Nothing is more important than our precious democracy." Okay? When you're deciding on things, you're deciding on completely irrelevant things, and you get a yes/no vote. And what you want, our elected representative, what you actually want, and you might be, you know, conveying the interests of your electorate, uh, doesn't come to pass because you've got this, this process which is completely undemocratic. So you can't pretend that we're living in some sort of beautiful democracy when this practice is in place.

Yeah, it happens across the entire world. And that's the, that was the problem with the Liberal Party. They compromise, they compromise, they compromise. And, and in the end, they just turn into a wet rag because they compromise so much that they basically just turn into a Labour party shield. So we saw that here in SA all the time, especially with this protest. I mean, sorry, the, um, we had a bill here in regards to how money is allocated and donations and no donations. And the Liberal Party, their motto was, "We had to compromise. We had to compromise because it would have been worse." And you're just left with a situation where it's like a slow march. Alexander, like say, a slow march of the institutions coming through and slowly stripping away everything that we love and care about in this country to the point where we're left with nothing. And then same thing with Pauline Hansen recently with the maternity leave stuff. You know, she, uh, you know, people blaming her drop-off in the polls because she made a statement about maternity leave being removed. What she was trying to say is for small businesses not to remove to, it's not up to the small businesses to pay for maternity leave. And it was just supposed to be about small businesses. But they've taken that and they've made it about every single business, every single government sector, every single corporation. So, you know, things are always taken out of context. And that's one of the biggest kryptonites we've seen for all the politicians. So, yeah, it'd be, it'd be nice to see some more clarity around the way we do our legislation because we see in America, like with the big beautiful bill. I mean, they literally stopped the government for how long was like, you know, it paused the government for a long, long time.

Um, so I don't know, maybe there needs to be a, uh, some legislation around legislation. That'd be nice.

Have some meetings about some meetings. But, yeah, I, I agree though. I was going to ask you the question, probably would have been maybe even a Joel Jamal question. He's not here. He's probably trying another suit on, but who knows where he is. I was going to, I was going to ask, like, how do you go about creating some rules to be like, "Hey, you can't put seven different meals into this bill. It's one meal. Tonight, it's butter chicken. We're only putting butter chicken in. That's it. You cannot have every different dish in this bill." How do you create some rules around that? Because until you put some parameters around it, you are constantly going to have polarizing things in a bill. So no matter what, the evil side seems to keep marching forward.

You got to come back to integrity on this though, right? I mean, it's about what's right and what's wrong, too. We make rules and till the cows come home. Enforcing those rules is damn near impossible these days because there's so many damn rules, you know? It's like, technically, you can still be a prime minister and have a Senate seat, but they don't do it because there's really been no precedence and there's a polite, you know, kind of gentleman's rule amongst the, the government that they don't do that, you know? I mean, it, it's just, it's built. It shouldn't happen. There should be higher integrity in politics and we shouldn't have to worry about it. I'll come back to, there's a couple of states in the US. I think Texas is one of them where they have a two-week sitting period for passing legislation. And if it doesn't happen in that two-week period, it doesn't happen for another year. I just want to see a caretaker government for 12 months. And I'd be quite happy to vote for a party that says, "We're going to say no to everything. We're the blocking party. And we're here just to say no. We don't care what's put in front of us. We don't care if it's good. We're here to say no." 'Cause we want to force a double dissolution election in Australia. We want to lower that quota for Senate seats and then reset the whole board again. Just flip the table right now. [ __ ] all of them and then restart.

Mate, isn't that the real point of an opposition? And I, and I didn't think about this until someone actually said it to me once, but I used to be of the opinion, >> well, shouldn't it, wouldn't it be good for the opposition to like, all work together? And it was almost like, once I looked behind the curtain, I was like, "No, >> the opposition, their job needs to be the opposition. Block everything. Say no."

Yeah, I agree. Go ahead, Ed. You probably got something to add there.

Well, I was going to say that the worst, the worst things that have been passed, like the hate speech laws at the start of this year were largely bipartisan. You go throughout history whenever the establishment get together and they, they end the, uh, fake sort of warring that they do, it's on something that's really important to them, really important to entrenching their establishment and entrenching the status quo. I mean, you've got people figures like Tony Blair, the former UK prime minister, who is this sort of, is trying to be this sort of transcendent outsider politics figure in terms of his foreign policy outlook, in terms of his involvement with, um, weapons, tech, all of this sort of stuff. He's trying to be above politics and really be an establishment figure that can carry a lot of weight with both sides of politics. And that's what you're seeing, um, play out in the UK. I mean, the, the scariest word in politics is bipartisanship. And, uh, it, the ruling class will have you believe, oh, well, that's just sort of, you know, that's being very, um, pessimistic. You know, you're not going to work together for the common good if that's the case. And, and the good part of every single person is like, well, yeah, you would hope so. You would hope that the people that we elect would work together to get things done. But when all of their incentives, when all of their, um, tendencies are for self-interest, of course they're going to join together when they're, um, self-interested.

I want to ask you guys as we come to probably the, the last topic that I think might take up a little bit of time, but this Supreme Court ruling, this is kind of all in America. I'm referring to Trump pushes to, Oh, we've lost Edward. All of a sudden, he stops talking and he just leaves again.

He's bloody rude, isn't he? He says he's peace and he's out. Supreme Court rules against Trump, right? So Trump tries to go there and he, he signs an executive order, which he, he's very good at. And I, I love him for it. I'm still a Trump fanboy, just so we know. Um, Trump sa, signs a executive order, I think like first week this one was done in, um, in this term, which was to say, "There's no such, you cannot just have birthright citizenship. I'm putting a stop to it." Obviously, that gets shut down by a, um, a court somewhere. I'm not sure where it was. One of the states basically said no. That pushed it to the Supreme Court. He lost that, I think, just in the last two days, 6-3 with, um, with Barrett voting against him as well. Um, why, why do you guys? Well, let's let's go individually because this relates to how we view things in Australia as well. I'll start with you, Scotty. Do you believe that you should have birthright citizenship here in Australia? I'll also add that I hadn't heard of this, that wealthy people who are people who can afford to do this, right, they call it like having tourist babies. And so they will fly to America just to have their baby in America. So their baby, that that child then has the opportunity to have an American passport and later down the track, long game, have the opportunity to sponsor other family members in America. I don't know how it plays out in Australia, but how would you view it here in Australia, Scotty? Should we have birthright citizenship?

Well, only anyone ever born in Australia by Australian parents should have an Australian citizenship. As far as I'm concerned, there's no gray area around this. As far as I'm, there's no way you call it an anchor baby, a flying baby. I, I don't care. I'm just really, I'm, I'm over it. I'm sick of it. I just don't want it to happen. I don't want anyone to have a vote in this country or say in the future of this country that isn't born here to Australian citizen parents. Hard line, end of story. That's my position. Does that answer the question, bro?

I like it. Edwood, you first, and then I'm going to let George's brain stew a little bit 'cause he's probably going to poke the bear. Go ahead, Edward.

Well, look, I tend to agree with Scotty. I think, um, again, when you've got, uh, you know, outward tactics from foreign countries, like for example, India. I mean, when Nandra Modi came to power in 2014, one of his main goals was to increase the power of the Indian diaspora around the world. That was a stated objective. And what better way to do it than things like birthright citizenship in, um, very empathetic western countries and exploiting that. So, there are going to be countries that exploit it. I agree with Scotty. We got to be very hardline on this. Um, Australians, uh, and might have to come back to your definition for an Australian, Brody. We've all answered it, but Australians, uh, Australians, the children of Australians should have citizenship in this country and no one else.

Yeah. No, I definitely think this, um, I think it's called birth tourism is the word.

Birth tourism. Yeah.

What?

Yeah. So, birth is a huge issue in America. It's been practiced for many, many, many years. I mean, there's a famous movie called Goal where you, uh, see things like that happen. But actually, no, sorry, that's wrong. But no, it is a serious issue. And I know people who do it all the time. You, you literally fly to America, you have your kid in Puerto Rico, bang, you're automatically established in America. And this is a huge issue. And it's a huge loophole that Trump was trying to close out. And I think if they don't close it out, it's a huge issue. But the problem is now that the Supreme Court has gone against it, it means the executive orders that Trump does on this is basically a no-go. And this is a disaster essentially for America 'cause it just, it's allowing floods of people to come in. I think it's one of their biggest issues. So, yeah, it's disappointing to hear. And, um, same thing. Look, we don't have the issue here in Australia because we have a big ocean surrounded by great white sharks. And it's very hard to get here. So it's not so much of an issue here in Australia like it is in America. But I really do feel sorry for America because it is one of the highest, uh, priorities for them is to, to seal up that country because we've seen now what's happening in Europe. You mean, you just look at the videos coming out of Paris now. Paris is unrecognizable. It honestly, it's, it's so sad to see what's happened to Paris. The level of migration that's happened there. It's undistinguishable anymore. You look at Paris and you think you're in the middle of Africa. And I mean no offense to the Africans, but this is supposed to be Paris, a European Catholic country. Um, and it's turned into, I don't know. I don't even know what it is anymore. It, I'm not sure if you guys have been watching videos coming out apparently recently, but we had, they had a festival there where people literally going around syringing people.

You got 2.9 million temporary visa holders in Australia. 2.9 million temporary visa holders. Just adjusting for natural birth rates and stuff. These people are having babies here.

Oh yeah.

Like they're having, they're having babies in Australia. You're being issued an Australian birth certificate for having a baby here.

And, and, and ultimately, they'll, they'll end up having citizenship and voting rights here, born to temporary visa parents.

I mean, that's, that's despicable unto itself in my opinion. They should never be allowed. Temporary visa holder in Australia and you're not an actual citizen, then definitely agree. Um, I think there has to be some level of, if you say, okay, if you're, let's just say you're a guy and you've traveled Italy and you've fell in love with this beautiful Italian woman and you're Australian and you want to bring her back and you want to marry the Italian woman, I think that's fine, right? There's nothing wrong with that. But if you're not Australian at all, like that, I think at least one person in the party of the family has to be Australian. That's, that's kind of where my line would be because.

So, so you're, you're a student here who wants to stay in Australia, right? You, you, you're into your second year. You, you find another student who also on a temporary visa that you, you happen to like. You knock her up in the third or fourth year of being here. She has that baby in Australia. Might be, might be a real love story. Who knows? But have they not then established themselves with an anchor baby in this country?

Yes, they have. So that would be the issue. If, if none of them are, I, I would say at least one of them has to be Australian for it to count. That would be my, that would be my line, I think.

Yeah. Which they, which they wouldn't be if they're, if they're temporary visas. Yeah. They wouldn't be.

And so, and so I mean, the hard line here is, is that's that child should not have an Australian citizenship and it should be, it should be forced with its parents to then have to leave the country and then reapply to come back to Australia at some point.

Yeah. I, I guess the conversation around who would the child identify as a citizen, the citizen of the mother or the father as well. What would you think around that?

Well, you know, the mother could be, uh, you know, from Hong Kong. The, uh, the father could be from India. So, I mean, it's like.

It wouldn't, it wouldn't matter. China because they need to get married and then they have the opportunity to go live in one of the countries.

So, I would not Australia.

Oh, okay. Then the rules would be it had to be the mother.

Because if, if they're not married and they have a, let's just say, okay, let's just say you're a full student. You've had sex with some random boy. You're both Chinese.

No. One's Chinese. So say the guy's from Thailand. The woman's from China. You've had sex. It's O week. You've had some beers, blah, blah, blah. The girl's got pregnant. She doesn't want to get abortion.

I think then that child goes by the citizenship of the mother, not the father. That would be my rule.

Why?

Yeah.

Because the mother is the child bearer, the child bearer.

Yeah. She's probably more likely to raise it.

Even if we look at cultures around the world.

It's her creation essentially, you know, comes from her womb. So, I would say the mother.

This is a longer conversation. I just.

Yeah, it is. But, but it also leans into, it leans, it leans into what we consider. And, you know, what you touched on then, you know, tourism babies, anchor babies, millions of temporary visa holders. I mean, it's a compound, it's a compounding issue. It's a compounding issue. It's only going to get more complicated and worse. The reason.

And, and we can all see the writing on the wall here, especially when we know now that every vote counts. We talk about election interference and longevity of our demographic. This has to be part of the conversation.

The reason why I think my system would work is, let's, let's just say, okay, let's just say you're an Australian woman, right? And you marry, sorry, you meet a Chinese man and you have a baby and it's a little Chinese Australian baby.

The.

But you're an Australian woman. You're a citizen.

But you're an Australian citizen. Then I think.

You get to stay.

The, the baby gets to stay, but the father has to go back and then apply legally. And if he doesn't make it, then too bad, too sad. That would be.

Is that the current? Is that the current?

She could marry him and get him in anyway. She could marry him and get him in.

It would still take time.

That would take time. And if, if, and that would take years, sometimes it takes decades for it to work out if, if.

Well, how can we hear so many stories about these people coming in really quickly? I mean, what, I mean, we know that the, the multi-layered visa system is really complicated.

There's a lot going on inside.

From what I understand, if you're Indian, it's really easy to get a visa, but if you're German or European, it's very hard to get a visa. So I think.

I think there's some deals that have been done federally between India and Australia.

There would be. Of course. Of course.

I, I've got a bunch of German friends who who want to migrate.

I've got a bunch of German friends. They're white. They're like European. They're Christians. And they, it's, they can't get visas. But I know like a bunch of Indians who've rocked up who can't even speak English and, and they smell like curry and they can't even make a good curry. And they [ __ ] get a visa, [ __ ] like that. You know what I mean? So it, it depends.

There's, there's definitely a racial element to this. Like there, Indians are getting priority over every other race. I'm just.

Yeah, I mean, even, even one of, one of the, um, one of the elders at my church, um, is a Brazilian guy, um, and actually working in construction. One of the very few people that were not born in Australia that have come here and are actually working in construction. And he's, he has had a battle for, um, permanent, permanent residency, um, let alone citizenship. And that's further down the path. And then you see like you said, so many people, it seems if you're Indian, you apply, you get it very, very quickly. Um, so it's not even a matter of, you know, uh, you know, Indians being prioritized over just whites. It just seems to be something very clear, um, with deals that we've clearly made at a federal level with India, and their diaspora being able to strengthen in Australia and sort of ties back to what we were talking about earlier. It's that sectarian voting that is coming in, this voting block based on competing, uh, racial interests, competing cultural interests. And we're seeing that in our country. So all of this is very minute. Uh, we're getting into the into the detail details, but you got to take it back a few steps. And Scott's right. This is just a snowball effect. This is what happens when you, when you seed the ground and you basically say, "Well, yeah, I guess we're living in a multicultural society now." And, um, how do we best manage that? Well, it's going to be bloody hard to manage.

Yeah.

I don't understand why. Take, take India for example. India has no, no Anglo white people in its government, in its parliament. India has none. Zero, none at all. Right? They have no, there's no representation of British ethnicity in the Indian government. And so why do we have a, why do we have a deal with a country that doesn't allow or doesn't have any of our representation of our ethnicity in its government to get free reign when it comes to getting visas into our country? Go George.

And not just that, India is not even part of the G7. They're part of BRICS. So like, it, it, everything is, it doesn't make any sense. And honestly, I'm not even joking. I, I literally just think they're prioritizing brown and black people over white people. I honestly believe that. I just think it's that. Did

you see Scott Morrison's new job this week? Know what he.

There'll also be, there'll also be trade attached to it. What's Scott Morrison's new job besides not getting this one?

Well, I, I think I, I saw it basically he's the, uh, the top, top Indian man. Uh, I think he's, uh, got taken up a deal with, uh, a make big migration firm or something like that, um, from India or he's, he's basically advising, um, Indians on how to get into the country. Is is that about.

You know, India is advising.

India is providing. Okay, guys, the ser, this.

I'll tell you what I reckon I could do that job. This is how you get into Australia if you're an Indian.

Write your name down. Don't worry if you spell it wrong. Apply.

It'll be fine.

Guys, construction skills.

Guys, the problem is, India is a solution to many people's problems. You got to remember, the fertility rates across the world are so bad, they're extinction level. And what do India have a lot of stuff? They have a lot of people. And India's economy is selling its people. That's what it is. They've got, they've got enough people to sell. And that's, that's how they're providing their support for us. And it was sort of across even in the Saudi Arabian regions. Look, they did it smart enough in Dubai and Qatar and stuff. They did temporary visas where they literally flooded their country with Indians to do the work. Tens of thousands of them did the work. A lot of them died. A lot of them got paid. A lot of them went home, but they went home. See, the difference is, we're taking them in and keeping them here. So, I don't mind. I think he answered your earlier question, George, when you said you didn't, you didn't, that's the exact reason why they're, they are the currency.

Yeah. Well, they're people factory. The problem is though, there has to be a level. This is my issue right with all these conversations. There has to be a level of responsibility for our nation to go, what has happened to the, the idea of family? What has happened to the idea of having children? You know, we've been sold a lie that to have children, you must be a multi-millionaire. You got to send them to private schools and you got to dress Ralph Lauren. No, you don't need to do that. You can just have a child. You don't need to have multi-million. That you talk to any white 30-year-old man or woman and they're like, "Oh, I don't have kids 'cause, uh, I just, we just can't afford it." What do you need? The first five years, you don't even need to afford anything. The kid can just put him in the potato sack and he's all right. Do you understand? Like, there's like this weird mindset that you need to drip your kids in gold for them to be, to have a good life. There are plenty of stories of children who've come out of poverty and made great things happen for their lives. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking this, there's a narrative that's been sold by feminism and also by the hysteria of climate change. Don't have kids 'cause the world's ending. Don't have kids 'cause it's anti- um, female. And if you can abort your kids as much as you can, because that's the only way we're going to get through this. That's, and that, and, and India, of course, is sitting there. They're going to sell their people. That's just what's going to happen.

Yeah. And it's the faith, faith thing for us as well. As we've drifted away from our Christian faith. I mean, it is one of the first commandments that comes all the way back in the book of Genesis is, "Go forth and multiply, like be fruitful and multiply." And it's repeated again by Christ himself when he's incarnate on earth. So it is one of the things that we've drift away from. We don't have a value for family because instead of the family, instead of worshiping God, we have been given the government, given the state to be the provider of all things. And that's a very dark road to get down. And that's the, the hole that we're in at the moment. And there's really, like you talk about children, you talk about people, uh, being scared for these reasons like climate change or not being able to afford it. There's also just a complete lack of desire for sometime. And there is no other way to change a human's desire than to have the soul renewed. And that, that's what it gets back to a lot of the time. And that's why, um, being able to, uh, preach the gospel, confess our primarily Christian heritage as a country, um, and really alive and souls to that, that is going to have far and away a greater thing because you're not drawing a horse to to water that's, you know, bucking away. It's a matter of changing desire for something that is greater, that is better than the state, or better than the current trend, better than whatever the material world has to offer. And, and just to add on to what Edward was just saying, like in my hand, I'm holding, I'm not sure if you guys can see this, is a, this is an icon of, um, Mother Mary and Jesus. And for thousands of years, this symbol was what represented womanhood. To be a woman. So for thousands of years, the, you know, the idea of woman is, it's holding a child, right? Holding a child is what is the greatest form of womanhood that is possible in this, in this existence. That meaning has been lost now. That has been disgraced. The idea of me even saying this is considered misogynistic or some sort of disgrace to feminism. So the symbolism of, of what it means to be a woman has been completely eradicated by, by the secular, uh, nation, by corporations, and, and, and all the selfish desires of all these systems we've built so far that have failed us. The last 60 years has been an absolute failure for every western nation. And it's just showing now, we're starting to see it. So I.

We've almost come full circle here because if you, if you talk about, okay, you know, as you guys know, our philosophy is, shut the gates, start deporting temporary visas, and let's create a vacuum where Australians go, you know what, maybe we should have some more children. I think, I think we can create a natural balance here where nature will fill the vacuum. But at the moment, when you see yourself being demographically replaced and they're pouring people in like crazy, that also contributes as with the moral decay that you guys are talking about here. And what's happened with, you know, multiple waves of feminism and globalism and, and the, uh, and the structure of our nations, the way we define economic growth or stability or GDP, all the rest of it, then we need to put all of this [ __ ] aside for a while. Hard shut on those gates and go, right, let's rebalance and refine ourselves again. And maybe define some, what new metrics for prosperity should look like. Because if never-ending GDP growth and human waves of migration are what are defined as success in the modern world, I don't want to borrow it. I'm going to be a lite when it comes to this. And I'm going to say, I'm, I'm going to say, let's build robots instead. And ultimately, I believe that as a society, as humans, we will go, there's a space in this society for us to have children here. And I think we will start to have children again once we reprogram the cultural focus on the country as opposed to just making it economic. The problem is the technology. So right now, this is what's happening. Right now, we're relying on mass immigration to fulfill our GDP growth, right? Our economic models, they don't take into account the stock of humanity. They just, they just assume we'll always be stock. What I'm looking at and what I'm predicting in the next 10 to 20 years is we're going to move away from mass immigration at some point because we're already seeing it kind of being reversed. And you're seeing the mainstream media going kind of going the ant. Even Hillary Clinton came out and said, "Oh, we can't have mass immigration. It's bad." That's Hillary Clinton saying this, right? The next step is artificial birthing. That's that kind of what they'll move us towards. That fertility rates are low. No one can have kids. Well, it takes someone like a year and a half now on average to have a kid. They're going to introduce the idea of artificial people. So, you, you go, you get to choose what you want. Bang. It'll become a business model. You'll see. They'll, they'll, they'll businessize the idea of children. And they'll also make that a degenerate thing now as well. That's that kind of my fear. I'm already seeing technology being utilized for this, this whole cloning/artificial, um, children making ability. So if they even if they do flood the gates, if everyone's just full of microplastics, which a lot of us are, um, I mean, even if, like, can you even have children? That's that's the problem.

Yeah. The sperm count is is at a rapid as it is.

We're having two pla, two credit cards worth of plastic a week on average.

It's, it's, it's not going to change.

It's diabolical. So, even if we did shut the gates, right, and, and I'm not saying I'm against this.

Um, it, it doesn't solve the fertility issue. Most people are now what, in their late 30s having kids. They're struggling to have one kid. A lot of people having to live off, uh, do IVF, which is quite expensive. Then you've got all the.

Two.

Yeah. And then you got all the morality around it, plus all the microplastics, plus the food, plus the water. I mean, Eva milk, you know, when Coles did something very strange a couple years ago, they did this whole $1 milk thing. I'm not sure if you guys remember that.

When, when Coles did that, what they did was they told the industry of, of the milk industry, FU, basically. A lot of milk, um, a lot of dairy supplies shut down because they couldn't, uh, they couldn't handle the costs. Because before, a lot of Australian farmers, they would, they would have their cattle out in the fields eating grass. Because of Coles, and this new implementation of milk being at $1, all these, if they wanted to survive, you basically had to have all your cows internal. Some of the, so most of the milk you guys are drinking, if you're buying that $1 milk, those kind, those cows never see grass. They're on concrete for their entire lives and they're being sucked dry. So even the milk itself is so low quality. It's so disgusting. There's only like two companies left in Australia that have high quality milk. And one of them's here in, um, Adelaide, South Australia, the Paris Creek Hill milk, and some other company that only have, um, biodynamic milk. So even things like the milk of this country have been destroyed. That's how disgraceful this country is. We're destroying every single thing that's sacred about it. And it's, um, it needs to stop at some point.

Just want milk that tastes like real milk.

You can't economically incentivize people to have children. I don't, I don't think. I mean, Hungary's tried this, reduce tax rates per kid. You know, you can, you can put all these economic incentives in there. You know, we tried it with the baby bonus with Costello. You know, one for mom, one for dad, one for the country.

Did it work?

I don't think it did the way they intended it.

It went up slightly, but it was a comparable boost at around that same time period in, uh, Canada, uh, New Zealand, and the US. So, it, it slightly outperformed them. So, there's an argument, but it's not, not to the extent that it's been sold for 20 years. Honestly, the best policy to, to, to get the kids supply up naturally, regardless of the health effects, right, is if you have a child, you don't have to pay tax.

Yeah. So, the economic.

And I'll tell you and why this works. Okay, you, the government.

We shouldn't get rid of tax anyway.

Well, that would be great. But I'm saying if you, if you, if you make the incentive that if you have children, you don't pay tax, right? Let's just say at least with a mother. The reason why this system works is, yeah, initially, you know, the government loses a bit of tax with the mother, right? But what you're doing is you're actually investing into the future because what do those children do? They're going to grow up and they're going to start paying taxes when they get jobs. So you're actually restocking the stock. So that actually works. It actually, it's a very strong way of actually getting the population up again. But I mean, those are very radical ideas.

Do you remember, do you remember the last federal election when, you know, Albo went to the election and said they're going to knock 25% off everyone's HECS debt? You guys remember that? Yeah. That was a pretty key policy of the, of the Labor Party. I mean, my guys were going, "Why am I paying for university students to get their HECS debt reduced?" You know, my tradies were all going, "Your tradies as well, bro," saying the same thing. You know, like, "Why am I paying? I'm paying for my, I'm still paying my ute off. I'm still paying for my tools. I've got a, you know, a loan for the, for the Milwaukee nail gun I bought." You know, all the things. You know, and so it's like, "Why am I paying for some student to get his HECS debt knocked off?" I can imagine that there would be a pushback from people going, "Why am I paying for you to not have children to, sorry, to have children?" And so there's this equality argument that comes back around full circle too as well.

I also think too, that the, anyone who's in business kind of understands that you don't want your money in 18 years. You want your money now. So investing into people having kids, um, solves a problem in 17 years, 16 years when they get their first job. Politicians don't think that far out, mate.

They don't. They just like, "Well, I could just bring a 100,000 in from India and they're paying taxes tomorrow."

GDP looks good. It looks good on paper. They just, it doesn't touch them. It's actually not as deep as people think. There's obviously a, a spiritual and evil agenda. And we touch on that stuff all the time. But a lot of these guys are actually like, they're lunatics and idiots and they're selfish and they're self-motivated and they want money and it.

doesn't touch them. Albo's bad policies don't touch him. He retires and walks away. He caught Scott Morrison. Scott Morrison hardly even campaigned his last election. He literally went in and he didn't he clearly didn't want to win. He was like, I'm out. I don't want to be a part of any of the investigations going on. I don't want to be on TV. I'm out. Why? Because he has a great pension. He's going to be on someone's board. He's going to have healthy salaries, write a book. Now he's working for the visa office and helping people move here. But that doesn't touch them. They're not affected by it.

So, it's easy just to be self-motivated, tick the box, get paid, improve your life, not worry about the country because it doesn't touch them.

Go, George. No, I was just going to say it comes back down to the finance. It's the industry super funds. We are we are we are literally slaves to the industry super funds. So, what what what are we going to do? What?

Our entire economy, our entire $4 trillion of capital is in US stocks being pumped up by an AI bubble that might pop at any second. It's it's an absolute it's it's it's diabolical, honestly.

Yeah, that's you. Yeah, really good point. You actually you sent me down that rabbit hole the other week there, George, and so started looking closer at uh Australian Super and where all this money's gone, you know, into the into the American black hole. That is their stock market. Mate, it's the main reason singularity. The main reason why the policies are directing you away from investment properties and commercial properties in Australia and the only safe place to put your money right now is super funds or your own property. And that will have an expiry.

On the whole budget is is the whole budget is a self-serving super industry fund budget. All that's all it is.

Actually, I think it was today was the anniversary 36 years since superannuation was introduced in Australia. I saw a few um the the standard mainstream media mastheads run with that one. You know, pork heating the 2% superannuation. I I came out of school into the 2% superannuation thinking, oh yeah, I'm saving for my retirement, you know, but ultimately when I was nearly bankrupt going through my first marriage divorce, I ended up having to tap into my super and pull $10,000 out to pay the lawyers bill. Paid 30% of that $10,000 on the way out. So ended up with seven. That seven bumped me up into the next tax level for that year and I paid another four and a half, mate.

Well, one of the big lies is, and they like to market this, and I, you know, for the first home buyer, so they like to talk about the uh being able to take $50,000 out of your super if you're, you know, buying your first house. It's a croc of [ __ ]. You are only allowed to take out additional contributions that you have made. So, it's not to do with the super that you've accumulated. It's additional contributions.

And tell me what 18-year-old to 25-year-old or up until 30 is diligently sacrificing more of their money so when they retire when they're trying to afford I don't know to raise a family to buy a house who is putting in that extra money? You know who it is? The sons and daughters of the rich. It's the sons and daughters of the politicians that can do that and that they can they can get a better return on it in the in the meantime they can take it out. It's only taxed 15% compared to probably 30% that they get be getting taxed elsewhere and they are the ones that win. It is nothing. It does not help at all. And um I thought that was a that I found out about that about a month ago. I was unpleased.

Super was fit for purpose when houses were two or three times earnings. Like that's it. Super was fit for purpose when it was two or three times earnings. Once houses breach that 10 times earnings, 12, 13 times earnings, it is not fit for purpose anymore. There is no way you should have a forced retirement savings program when houses are 10 times. That is absolute lunacy.

Our entire economy is is just feudalism. You either a landlord or you're a peasant. That's literally Australia. That's that's welcome to Australia.

Well, that's really it's really inspiring stuff. You know who else who um you know who else um behind that behind that Edward too is that um most industries where unions have a heavy presence, they uh they tell all their workers to self-sacrifice extra super and so there's a big voting block there where unions are involved that's obviously in bed with l uh labor as well which this becomes a net positive for them because they're actually involved and that's another another side to it.

Last thing I'll touch on before we wrap it up is the drone strikes from Ukraine in Russia are affecting now a large number of refineries. So their fuel shortages are actually a real thing right now in Russia. There is lines for kilometers long. The reason I want to ask it is because I want to touch on how easy it would be and how quick do you think our country would go downhill if we just looked like Russia for 2 days. So right now in Russia they are lining up for kilometers to get fuel in places. People are boiling point to be reached. People are fighting at at the gas stations because they're they're on edge. They're angry. The price was like $25 a gallon or something like that. Can you imagine as we come to an end on this episode? Can you imagine how quick this country would fall to absolute destruction if it wasn't just say a fuel hit? If we lost the internet for like 3, 4 days?

I'd be happy.

You remember what happened in CO when all of a sudden toilet paper there was a shortage. What do you reckon would happen, George? If we lost the internet for 3 days, you couldn't access your banking. My business would be like, oh my gosh, it would be horrific. I'd probably just sit back and make a coffee and enjoy the peace of quiet for a couple of days. I'm like, I'm of the opinion, well, the bank until the food runs out. But if the banking system goes down, well, we're all in the same boat. That's right. Until the food runs out. Actually, on the other side of this wall, I should show you one day. I have a little mini Woolworth in there. I'm prepared. I I probably got 6 months worth of dry food on the other side of this wall. So, I'm good for that.

What do you think happens, George, if we lose, say, the internet for 3 days?

I'll I'll just say this. If the if the internet went down for 3 days, I'm not even joking. I fundamentally believe this. If if somehow for 3 days the internet went down and we would and we couldn't do anything, I'd say if all of Australia just sat there and prayed for 3 days straight, I think the entire country would change overnight.

Have you ever heard of the Carrington event, George?

No. What's that?

So in in uh in 1859, September 1st, 1859, there was a massive solar flare. 1859. Now telegraph was in its infancy. You know, the electronics were almost non-existent. The solar flare was large enough to wipe out the globe's existing telegraph system. Damn. Okay. Like at the time, at the time, if that comparable solar flare event happened today, it's lights out. It's lights out globally. It's done. It's finished. It's over. Everything is fried. And this has happened multiple times throughout history. We're sitting here literally dodging bullets in space, mate. That's what That's what's going on.

And if it happens, it's not not even if, it's when it happens. When when when it happens. I think you you and I are the last ones standing here on the pod. I know Ed's back now.

Got hit by a solar flare right now.

What What the heck happened then, mate? What What does Mad Max look like after after the Carrington event, Mark 226 style, you know?

Well, look, um there Graeme Hancock kind of touches on this quite a bit. We do have these significant events that happen every 10,000 years. We do see crust displacements. We do see solar flares. I mean whole flip. It's in it's in every single ancient story. The story of Atlantis to Laia. There's the whole idea of resets is something that is inevitable at some point. And um look, I don't really have much of an opinion on it. I just I just think it um it is what it is. I know it's a lazy answer, but it kind of would be um it'd be something be I'll just say this. If it happened now and you and I were alive, it'd be it'd be an interesting thing to go through. That's for sure.

And but we but I would believe as you would too that we are alive because we are meant to live through that event. I think that's that as we are living through these circumstances around us right now. We're here because we're here for this, mate. We're here because we're here, right? This is this is we're meant to be here for this. and and and and I wasn't joking before you know you know the idea of a good king or a good um prime minister right the idea is like if you believe in the idea of prayer so like in the in the medieval times if you had a good king the people your people would pray for you like the people of your kingdom would pray for you and that would bring you good fortune it would it would empower the kingdom and I guess the issue with Australia is the reason why everyone's so upset about us being angry at the prime minister if you take those if you take the belief that prayer is important and you can almost use that as thought. If everyone's angry at the prime minister, right, in theory that makes us weaker. So the idea that people like Kama step down or the idea that this prime minister Albanesei steps down is something that's actually necessary because we do need a good leader because without a good leader, you're not having your people praying or thinking about you in a positive way. It actually affects the entire nation. So Albanese sitting there um and and and and having the whole of Australia hating on him is actually doing us a disservice and a real leader knows when to stand down. And this this man is not a real leader. He doesn't know when to stand down. And it's when we we need and

you made a in the intro that'll be on the Patreon. You made a really good point with regards to um one man's um decision to go and live in a monastery and and spend his life in silence and prayer. Right. internal reflection, channeling and and if if I was diagnosed with a dire illness today, right? And uh and only had a you know short period of time to live according to the doctors and I was looking for a miracle, I'd be asking that man on the mountain and his 2,000 mates to pray for me, to pray for me. You know, I wouldn't ask 2,000 social media influencers to make a video about my condition. I'd be I'd be looking for the power of prayer and intervention and divine miracle. Right.

Yeah. And just to finish on that point, and this is what I was kind of trying to allude to. I generally do believe the power of the prayer. I think I think those 2,000 monks at Mount Athos have done more for this world than I have, than you have, than anyone else in this room has. And I and I I don't I really mean that. I do think we underestimate how powerful um these people are. You know, there's a meme online like the the prayer of the grandma is holding the world together. I do generally think these people right they dedicate 24 hours of their life dedicated to this prayer every single day.

Channeling completely in sync for 2,000 years these men have prayed 2,000 years unbroken even Hitler Hitler himself wrote a letter to his to his general saying do not touch this land the Ottoman Empire this is by the way the most Islam this is the Islamic Ottoman Empire even they did not touch this land. So, it is important and that's why I think we do need to kind of get back to prayer. And when people ask me what, hey, George, what's the best way I can help my politically or or um how can I help my, you know, what what we're dealing with is start praying. Everyone needs to start praying again. Honestly, I I really mean that.

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